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Uni Watch Exclusive!: C Section

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Listen up, boys and girls, for today I bring you a bona fide scoop. It begins with a note I recieved yesterday from a source who checked in with the following: “Word I hear is that the NFL is going to go to Cs on the captains’ jerseys this year, NHL-style. They’re supposedly going to start during the regular season.”

This was news to me, so I checked with an NFL source, who passed along a press release I hadn’t previously seen, dated May 22nd of this year. According to the release, the league’s Player Advisory Council has been developing a “team captain leadership initiative” for this season, designed to “to support and recognize the importance of team leadership through the role of the captains.” Among the measures being considered: “captain identification on game uniforms.”

So are they going ahead with that plan? My NFL source initially indicated that the Cs were pretty much a done deal for this season. “Captains will wear a C on the right chest,” he told me. And what about teams that already have a patch in that spot? “The C will go above the patch.” (I didn’t think to ask about the Broncos, who present some unique challenges for letter placement.) But later in the day he told me that he’d asked a few more people and had now been informed that the Cs were just a “possibility,” although I got the strong sense that they’re, y’know, a strong possibility.

Captaincy designations aren’t so uncommon in the NCAA, but they’re rare in the pros. The last team to employ the C was the 1994 Patriots (here’s another shot), and the only other C-ified team I’m aware of is the 1983 Cowboys, who slapped the C on Danny White, Bob Breunig, Drew Pearson, and Ron Fellows.

Can’t say I’m in love with this idea. For starters, real estate on NFL jerseys is already in short supply, what with the disappearing sleeves, the massive NFL Equipment logo, the increasing use of chest wordmarks, and so on. Adding another element to the mix is gonna make for some seriously crowded jerseys.

And consider this: As we all learned last week, the Red Wings are moving their C and A designations to the other side of the jersey this season, because Reebok’s new tailoring template puts too many seams and fabric panels where the letters would normally appear (for further details, look here). Given that today’s football jerseys are a veritable crazy quilt of stretch panels and seams compared to hockey jerseys, I’m willing to bet right now that the NFL’s newfound embrace of the C — assuming it happens at all — won’t last long.

Research Project Update: A big pat on the back to everyone who responded to yesterday’s call for “one and done” uniforms (i.e., uniforms that were worn just once, or a handful of times, before being abandoned) — my ESPN column tomorrow will be stronger thanks to your efforts. I won’t have room to thank everyone by name within the column itself, but I’ll do so here on this site tomorrow.

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Membership News: Very odd development on Monday, as two completely unrelated people both asked for Harlem Globetrotters treatments for their membership cards (you can see one of them at right). This tops the membership program’s previous coincidental oddity, which came a few weeks ago when three consecutive new enrollees asked for No. 17.

Meanwhile, if you’ve signed up for membership, have you checked to see if your name’s on the roster? Here’s why I ask: The current roster listing has 420 names, plus there are two members who’ve asked not to be listed (although their cards are shown in the design gallery), so that’s a total of 422 enrollees. There are 421 designs in the card gallery, plus there are three cards that haven’t yet been designed, so the full gallery would have 424 designs. That means there are two people who I somehow left off the roster. Are you one of them? Let me know.

Uni Watch News Ticker: I meant to list this on Monday, but it fell through the cracks when my computer crashed over the weekend (and by now most of you probably know about it anyway, but just in case…): Iowa State is letting fans vote on a new helmet design for 2008. … Meanwhile, the Fresno Grizzlies are asking for fan input on redesigning the logo (with thanks to Aaron Wiens). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The Blue Jays have added an “SP” memorial patch for former team CEO/chairman Sam Pollock. … The Mets will be wearing Los Mets jerseys this Friday, for Fiesta Latina. … Several people have asked why I haven’t mentioned anything about the Little League World Series. Answer: Because I think the LLWS is bad news. The level of media coverage, the hype, etc. — it’s unhealthy for the kids involved, and arguably even worse for any kid watching it. I’ve written plenty of times about Little League, Pop Warner, and the like, and will continue to do so, but I won’t be party to something like the LLWS. … Nice little piece here about the Brewers’ batting helmets. … Very good article here about players who don’t wear batting gloves. … Just imagine the potential uni-related ramifications of this. … Scotty Johnson reports that dirt late model driver Scott James, who’s from Cincinnati, has a Bengals-themed helmet (and note the “Ocho Tres,” because his car number is 83). … Good catch by Jason Taylor, who notes that Andruw Jones appears to have added an American flag decal to the back of his batting helmet. … Victory Pennants honcho Morris Levin totally kissed my butt wrote some really nice stuff about Uni Watch in his blog yesterday. … Here’s yet another photo of the “8” on Fenway Park’s exterior wall, and in this shot you really can see that the numeral is upside-down (nice job by Matthew Knell). … Merchandise malfunction, as documented by Justine DeCotis: “I work in the team store of the Pawtucket Red Sox. Recently this hat came in with the correct PawSox logo on the front, but on the bill, where it’s supposed to say ‘Pawtucket Red Sox’ on one side and ‘Pawtucket, Rhode Island’ on the other, it says ‘Atlanta Braves.’” … Cardinals punter Scott Player is currently doing an excellent Hulk Hogan impersonation. “Add in his single-bar facemask and the fact his last name is on most prototype jerseys, and Scott’s my new favorite,” writes Eric D.

 

279 comments to Uni Watch Exclusive!: C Section

  • Fred | August 22, 2007 at 8:40 am |

    The “C” wouldn’t work for the Ravens since they have 3 new captains each week. I guess you could sew it on everyone’s uniform but then it would lose its meaning, you know?

  • scott | August 22, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    I totally agree about the LLWS.

  • Joemanji | August 22, 2007 at 8:42 am |

    Pardon my ignorance, but are a couple NHL teams unveiling new jerseys today?

  • My name is not Earl | August 22, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    Just wondering: anyone think the NFL is going to add “Vick” to the infamous list of words you can’t put on the back of your personalized NFL jersey? After all, Rae Carruth’s name is on the list (but of course, you can still get a Rams jersey with “Rentzel” on it or a Bills jersey with “Simpson” on it).

  • Original Jim | August 22, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    As I referee, I think the C could make things easier. The captain is the only on-field player allowed to have discussions with the referee. When a penalty flag is thrown, the referee explains the options to the captain (or captains, in the case of 2 separate penalties). This way, you know exactly the player who will decide to accept the penalty or not.

  • Rich | August 22, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”135106″]Pardon my ignorance, but are a couple NHL teams unveiling new jerseys today?[/quote]

    I believe the Senators are. I don’t know who else…

  • Don | August 22, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    I’m in 100% agreement with you about the LLWS, Paul. I tried to watch a game this year, but it just felt wrong, especially with the endless shots of the parents in the stands.

  • Ray | August 22, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    We’re getting closer to the 50th anniversary of the old AFL. I’ve seen some on-line stuff including a pleading letter at http://www.remembert... sent in 2005 to the late Lamar Hunt asking for his influence in seeing to it that a special patch adorn the all the NFL unis and if there’d be any chance at the old AFL teams would wear those 1960 unis. Has anyone any knowledge of what if anything the NFL is planning for the anniversary? I can’t imagine them not doing it big since the AFL is such a nostalgic part of football and because of the impact it had on the game we have today. Unis would be an issue for some teams though…would the Tennessee Titans where the old Houston Oiler unis say for a game??? Or would say KC don the Dallas Texan helmets for a game…and what about the Jets…would they become the Titans for a game or two? Interesting questions to ponder…but I gotta say that if this goes down I do sincerely hope that the Broncos will wear those infamous unis with the wild socks!!!!! Let’s hope if the league does do it they do it right and not like some of the screw ups with the throwbacks in ’94.

  • al | August 22, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    In Re: LLWS, i caught a game where one team was wearing stirups, but they all had them on backwards …. what is wrong with the parents letting them go out like that?

    Also, why “Los Mets”? The mets do not have “The Mets” on their jersey? If anything, they should put Nueva York on the jersey.

  • Robert | August 22, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”135105″]I totally agree about the LLWS.[/quote]

    Me too. The media coverage of what should be a little event creeps me out.

  • Jon L | August 22, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    I’m totally with you on LLWS.

  • Joey Guns | August 22, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    I attended Danny Almonte’s infamously tainted LLWS perfect game a few years ago. I’m not sure if I’ll ever be able to go back to another game after that one.

  • Josh | August 22, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    Hey. So a while ago there was a discussion on sailor’s hats on mascots (I think they were all in college sports). I found this on the Victory Pennants site that Paul linked to. I’ve been a Michigan fan for 20-odd years and I’ve never seen this before. Does anyone know if the pennant site actually copies old team logos or fabricates them themselves based on period designs? In my time as a fan, Michigan hasn’t used an actual wolverine for any of their major sports (granted I don’t go back all that far), let alone a wolverine in a sailor’s hat. Where could this wolverine be sailing to, I wonder? Canada? On the Great Lakes?

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame!

  • Dane | August 22, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    Senators unveiling is scheduled for 6:15 PM EDT tonight. Here’s a teaser:

    http://cdn.nhl.com/s...

  • Jeff B | August 22, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]
    Here’s hoping not to see “Los Cubs” night and “Los Sox Blancos” night.

  • Christopher | August 22, 2007 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”135105″]I totally agree about the LLWS.[/quote]

    Seconded. When I was in little league (way, way back in the day) I was always creeped out by anyone who took it more seriously than a simple game played on the local field in front of some 10-20 parents and siblings.

  • Chris Hilf | August 22, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    Anyone notice in that picture of the Steelers Deshea Townsend’s fly is untied?

  • Christopher | August 22, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”135131″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]
    Here’s hoping not to see “Los Cubs” night and “Los Sox Blancos” night.[/quote]

    Los Calcetines del Blanco?

    Calcetines Blancos!
    Calcetines Blancos!
    Lets Go Calcetines Blancos!

  • DW in Tampa Bay | August 22, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    As far as the LLWS, with ESPN broadcasting EVERY game, I agree, that this is not healthy for the kids.

    If you think that the ESPN coverage is over-done, you should be in or near a city that has a “team” playing in Williamsport. It is disgusting how the carnivorous media covers these kids.

    And what is sad, is that these “teams” are not true “teams” from the various Little Leagues across the world, they are all-star teams, kids picked from all over the league.

  • Tony | August 22, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    I’m pretty sure that Vincent Brown wore a “C” on his jersey when he was the captain of the Patriots in the early 1990’s. Sorry, I don’t have a pic.

  • Eriq Jaffe | August 22, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    The captain’s “C” always reminds me of this “Palehose 6” comic. The White Sox (and every other team) were depicted as pirates for the run of the strip last season. This year, they started out as spacemen and have transfigured into a bar band.

  • scott | August 22, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.

    Is there evidence all the media attention actually harms the kids? What, do they all grow up to become serial killers or something? Geez, guys, lighten up.

  • Adam | August 22, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”135134″][quote comment=”135131″]
    Here’s hoping not to see “Los Cubs” night and “Los Sox Blancos” night.[/quote]

    Los Calcetines del Blanco?

    Calcetines Blancos!
    Calcetines Blancos!
    Lets Go Calcetines Blancos![/quote]

    The official Spanish White Sox site is loswhitesox.com, so if they did do something like that I suppose they probably wouldn’t translate the words. However, I hope they never do…

  • Jim | August 22, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.

  • Aram | August 22, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”135126″]Hey. So a while ago there was a discussion on sailor’s hats on mascots (I think they were all in college sports). I found this on the Victory Pennants site that Paul linked to. I’ve been a Michigan fan for 20-odd years and I’ve never seen this before. Does anyone know if the pennant site actually copies old team logos or fabricates them themselves based on period designs? In my time as a fan, Michigan hasn’t used an actual wolverine for any of their major sports (granted I don’t go back all that far), let alone a wolverine in a sailor’s hat. Where could this wolverine be sailing to, I wonder? Canada? On the Great Lakes?[/quote]
    I’ve definitely seen the Michigan sailor hat logo before this site put up that pennant. You have to go back a bit, but it was fairly common in the 50’s and 60’s.

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”135138″]I’m pretty sure that Vincent Brown wore a “C” on his jersey when he was the captain of the Patriots in the early 1990’s. Sorry, I don’t have a pic.[/quote]

    Damn, I always forget that. But you’re absolutely right.

    I’ll change the main text right now.

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.[/quote]

    People would also tune in to watch a lynching. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

  • Marty Met | August 22, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    Why not just put a small C decal on the front of the helmet?

  • Stuby | August 22, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    My daughter got issued her very first soccer uniform yesterday. She chose my #4, which makes me a proud Daddy, but OUCH, the jerseys are light peach and dark green, to be worn with black shorts and dark green socks! To make it worse, there is even the standard soccer-style logo creep on the jersey numeral. She’s 5 and already a billboard.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”135152″]Why not just put a small C decal on the front of the helmet?[/quote]

    You could make it electric green! Apparently the Refs can only see that color!

  • Jonathan | August 22, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”135110″]Just wondering: anyone think the NFL is going to add “Vick” to the infamous list of words you can’t put on the back of your personalized NFL jersey? After all, Rae Carruth’s name is on the list (but of course, you can still get a Rams jersey with “Rentzel” on it or a Bills jersey with “Simpson” on it).[/quote]

    I just tried to put Vick/7 on a falcons jersey and it said :”Your current entry cannot be processed. Some entries are prohibited due to guidelines for past and present player names. Please create a new entry. “

  • todd krevanchi | August 22, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    i have a love/hate relationship with little league and the llws.

    a love in the sense that i see it as a goal for every kid who suits up to try to play their best to become an all star, and work hard to advance to williamsport to represent their country (or at least their country’s geographic location).

    a hate in the sense that i never had an opportunity to play in it no matter how many titles my all star teams won. we often wondered how we would win all of our all star tourneys and then that was it! no advancement to the llws! as players we all watched and hoped that “next year” we’d get there and represent the north east. it wasnt until years later that we all found out that we never had a shot because our league wasnt a member of the little league of america, and we werent members due to high league membership costs. thats how it was explained to me later on.

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]

    Funny…I didn’t even read the comments from yesterday from about 9am on thanks to actually having work to do. Great minds thinking alike?

  • Joe Drennan | August 22, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]
    I think the Twins should have a Canada night for Justin Morneau and make him feel better. Isn’t there a duth player somewher ein the league too? That mans we need a Holland night.

    I am all for teams recognizing local populaces. San Diego has military night for an obvious reason, but I’ve been through Brewerville and if they’re going to change the language on their jersey, it should not be to Spanish, but to German. I like how the White Sox have their half way to St. Patty’s Day jerssey as a way to recognize Chicago’s South Side Irish (something I grew up in).

    Every community has Spanish speaking folks, but that doesn’t mean the community is predominatly latino, therefore, in my opinion, meaning not every team needs to have their Spanish nights where they change the jersey.

    I can’t remember where it is, I think it’s here in Minnesota, but some MLB team throught the season recognizes many different nationalities having Italian night, Irish night, Hmong night and so on, but they don’t change their jerseys on those nights, they simply make reference to it on the jumbotron and there is a noticible influx in fans of that nationality that night.

    If teams are going to continue this Spanish thing, I demand Irish jerseys with team names in Galic darn it.

  • michael | August 22, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    totally agree with you on LLWS, i have always hated it. from the crying kids to the annoying parents, i was at a bar the other day and they had it on so i watched some of it, for one almost every kid hits a homerun and every time one does the entire team comes out of the dugout to mob him like he just hit a walk off in game 7 of the WS, hey kid its the first inning of the regional game get a grip! also its just bad sloppy baseball, yuk. and since its on tv its fair game so i won’t lighten up.

    and stuby i feel bad for your daughter, peach and dark green? yikes! i think that should be one time for the parent to step in a youth league and put a stop to it.

  • DrBear | August 22, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    I’m not surprised you can’t get a Vick jersey; when the indictments came down a few weeks, ago, my wife (who works the order phones for a large Internet sports retailer) said the order went out – no taking orders for Vick merchandise; they wouldn’t sell it.

    (BTW, there was a story on a Georgia station that the Atlanta animal shelter is getting a ton of donations of Vick jerseys and T-shirts that they’re using for towels, cleaning rags and the like.)

  • jaye | August 22, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Peopole are always screaming for “good news” in the media. Many see the LLWS as good news. The kids are clean and well-scrubed and doing something “positive.”

    What they don’t see are the endless hours and expense some parents go to. They don’t know what damage is being done to 11-year-olds throwing curve balls.

    I have two Little Leaguers only because that’s the only league in our area. If there were something other than AAU (which is just as bad, if not worse), we’d be there.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”135159″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]

    Funny…I didn’t even read the comments from yesterday from about 9am on thanks to actually having work to do. Great minds thinking alike?[/quote]

    You should never let your job interfere with your real work.

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”135110″]Just wondering: anyone think the NFL is going to add “Vick” to the infamous list of words you can’t put on the back of your personalized NFL jersey? After all, Rae Carruth’s name is on the list (but of course, you can still get a Rams jersey with “Rentzel” on it or a Bills jersey with “Simpson” on it).[/quote]
    Really? That’s surprising.

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired

  • Adam | August 22, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]

    I hope you’re joking, because it seems really obvious that “Latino Night” has nothing to do with making the players feel better and everything to do with trying to expand the Latino fanbase.

  • DJ | August 22, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    The official Spanish White Sox site is loswhitesox.com, so if they did do something like that I suppose they probably wouldn’t translate the words. However, I hope they never do…

    When they made the effort to translate, “White Sox” became “Las Medias Blancas.” The Sox now have a weekly program on one of the Spanish language stations titled “Orgullo Sox” (Sox Pride), so they may no longer feel the need to translate the name.

  • Mike V | August 22, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.

    Is there evidence all the media attention actually harms the kids? What, do they all grow up to become serial killers or something? Geez, guys, lighten up.[/quote]
    I disagree, ESPN pretty much broadcasts anything they want, regardless if people watch it or not. Actually, I believe they try to force-feed sports to us that normally people don’t care about (i.e. Arena Football, Darts, Bowling, and the LLWS).

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact!

  • cliff rancho | August 22, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    I don’t really think it’s a bad thing to have the kids on TV for the Little League, but what I don’t like is just the way ESPN covers it. With all the highlights, action shots, zoom in fist-pumps, etc. it just makes it seem over-the-top. Who is actually going, “Ohhhh damn! That’s aweeeesome!”? besides 10 year olds?

    It’ll be like if ESPN ever covered one of those 1895 baseball games and there were highlights every inning set to the tone of the latest Black Eyed Peas single. It just doesn’t work in my opinion.

  • Nate from SRU | August 22, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    If you think it is bad enough having it broadcast on ESPN every waking second it is on, try living in the town where it actually happens (South Williamsport, PA) The influx of tourists from all over the world and country who think they are better than everyone else because of the fact their little kid and a bunch of kids like them get to play at some glorified stadium, the traffic and the fact that they can’t get the damned borough name right. It’s insane. Alright enough for that rant on the LLWS…

    I think the C on the NFL jerseys isn’t a good idea. It would look too out of place. It would be like adding a facemask to all major league batting helmets (like they do in the LLWS).

  • johnt | August 22, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”135160″][quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]
    I think the Twins should have a Canada night for Justin Morneau and make him feel better. Isn’t there a duth player somewher ein the league too? That mans we need a Holland night.

    I am all for teams recognizing local populaces. San Diego has military night for an obvious reason, but I’ve been through Brewerville and if they’re going to change the language on their jersey, it should not be to Spanish, but to German. I like how the White Sox have their half way to St. Patty’s Day jerssey as a way to recognize Chicago’s South Side Irish (something I grew up in).

    Every community has Spanish speaking folks, but that doesn’t mean the community is predominatly latino, therefore, in my opinion, meaning not every team needs to have their Spanish nights where they change the jersey.

    I can’t remember where it is, I think it’s here in Minnesota, but some MLB team throught the season recognizes many different nationalities having Italian night, Irish night, Hmong night and so on, but they don’t change their jerseys on those nights, they simply make reference to it on the jumbotron and there is a noticible influx in fans of that nationality that night.

    If teams are going to continue this Spanish thing, I demand Irish jerseys with team names in Galic darn it.[/quote]

    Mets used to have an international week which they would celebrate different heritages, including Irish. They also have worn green shirts(as do other MLB teams) and with green hats for St. Patricks Day during Spring Training. They also did a free give away of the Green hats (had a few myself). I do not think that there is an appropriate translation in ‘Irish’ or Gaeilge (Language is Irish not Gaelic) for Mets. But that has not stopped ‘Los Mets’. Chugainn Mets (not too sure how right that is!!)

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.

  • Kim | August 22, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”135157″][quote comment=”135110″]Just wondering: anyone think the NFL is going to add “Vick” to the infamous list of words you can’t put on the back of your personalized NFL jersey? After all, Rae Carruth’s name is on the list (but of course, you can still get a Rams jersey with “Rentzel” on it or a Bills jersey with “Simpson” on it).[/quote]

    I just tried to put Vick/7 on a falcons jersey and it said :”Your current entry cannot be processed. Some entries are prohibited due to guidelines for past and present player names. Please create a new entry. “[/quote]

    Remember the announcement that they wouldn’t sell anymore Vick jerseys, and Nike would pull shoes and stuff?

    But you can get an Atlanta Falcons jersey #7 with CONVICKTED.

  • JMichaels | August 22, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    I’m not a big fan of the LLWS, but not because of the hype surrounding it and the coverage of it.

    I don’t like it because of the rules. The pitching distance and base distance is way too short. No stealing or leading off is stupid, and not being able to run on a passed ball third strike is dumb. The fact that these are All Star teams irks me, too.

    When I was 12, we played AABC santioned ball. The rules were very similar to MLB, but the bases and pitching distance were shorter (but not as short as the LLWS). There were many teams in the leagues I played in and my younger brother played in that seemed to be better than these all star teams in the LLWS.

    Also, RE: curve balls being thrown by pitchers. There is a good chance that they are throwing “slip” pitches. I used to throw one of those when I was 12, and it would curve, but there was no breaking of the wrist, so it was no more taxing on my arm than throwing a fastball.

  • johnt | August 22, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”135176″][quote comment=”135160″][quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]
    I think the Twins should have a Canada night for Justin Morneau and make him feel better. Isn’t there a duth player somewher ein the league too? That mans we need a Holland night.

    I am all for teams recognizing local populaces. San Diego has military night for an obvious reason, but I’ve been through Brewerville and if they’re going to change the language on their jersey, it should not be to Spanish, but to German. I like how the White Sox have their half way to St. Patty’s Day jerssey as a way to recognize Chicago’s South Side Irish (something I grew up in).

    Every community has Spanish speaking folks, but that doesn’t mean the community is predominatly latino, therefore, in my opinion, meaning not every team needs to have their Spanish nights where they change the jersey.

    I can’t remember where it is, I think it’s here in Minnesota, but some MLB team throught the season recognizes many different nationalities having Italian night, Irish night, Hmong night and so on, but they don’t change their jerseys on those nights, they simply make reference to it on the jumbotron and there is a noticible influx in fans of that nationality that night.

    If teams are going to continue this Spanish thing, I demand Irish jerseys with team names in Galic darn it.[/quote]

    Mets used to have an international week which they would celebrate different heritages, including Irish. They also have worn green shirts(as do other MLB teams) and with green hats for St. Patricks Day during Spring Training. They also did a free give away of the Green hats (had a few myself). I do not think that there is an appropriate translation in ‘Irish’ or Gaeilge (Language is Irish not Gaelic) for Mets. But that has not stopped ‘Los Mets’. Chugainn Mets (not too sure how right that is!!)[/quote]

    BTW, Met Fan living in Co. Limerick,Ireland

  • Joey Guns | August 22, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    Not really uni-related, but pretty cool:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Jonathan | August 22, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”135175″]I think the C on the NFL jerseys isn’t a good idea. It would look too out of place. It would be like adding a facemask to all major league batting helmets (like they do in the LLWS).[/quote]

    That’s not true.

  • ross | August 22, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    i think readers here can manage to criticize anything. the llws kids are just that… kids (except for almonte, but that seems isolated) who aren’t playing for money or endorsements. they’re playing because they love baseball. they’re 12 years old, so please don’t blame them for not being major league talent. and at this stage this is the most important thing.

    it’s great to see a whole team get excited for a home run. these kids have been playing through tons of rounds (much more than mlb playoffs) so every moment in the llws is awesome. And wasn’t that game saving catch on a possible walkoff not one of the best sports moments you’ve seen in a while?

    the llws is great becuase it gets to the root of why we love sports, no money, just the glory. let these kids have their day in the sun.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?

  • Elwood | August 22, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    The kids aren’t the problem with the LLWS, it’s everyone else. The kids are pawns of overly aggressive parents and a TV network looking to fill airtime in a traditionally poor TV sports month. It wasn’t long ago when only the final game was shown on TV. Now we need REGIONAL games? Please. This is just ESPN turning its hype machine to something else to cram down our throats (like the aforementioned poker, Arena Football, etc.).

    Although even if it was the greatest thing ever, holy crap those uniforms are AWFUL.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”135186″][quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?[/quote]

    Don’t know, but he almost bought the house I grew up in. Came home one day from track practice, happened to be wearing #77 to school that day, and walked right into him in my kitchen. Very cool moment because he did a double take due to the jersey. The realtor never said that it was going to be him looking at the house. Ahhh…good times.

  • michael | August 22, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”135185″]i think readers here can manage to criticize anything. the llws kids are just that… kids (except for almonte, but that seems isolated) who aren’t playing for money or endorsements. they’re playing because they love baseball. they’re 12 years old, so please don’t blame them for not being major league talent. and at this stage this is the most important thing.

    it’s great to see a whole team get excited for a home run. these kids have been playing through tons of rounds (much more than mlb playoffs) so every moment in the llws is awesome. And wasn’t that game saving catch on a possible walkoff not one of the best sports moments you’ve seen in a while?

    the llws is great becuase it gets to the root of why we love sports, no money, just the glory. let these kids have their day in the sun.[/quote]

    yeah we basically can criticize anything thats what makes this site fun. i’m not saying a team shouldn’t be excited because they hit a home run i just find the whole team gathering around at the plate after every home run (which are very frequent i might add) to crowd around the player who hit it and make a big spectacle out of it, it shows to me nothing but disrespect and showboating, high five him in the dug out and crowd around him when he hits the game winning home run not in the first inning. and honestly llws is the embodiment of whats wrong with sports from espn to all the stupid sponsors, annoying parents and coaches.

  • Mike V | August 22, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]
    You are 100% correct. He only escaped the LLWS serial killer syndrome (aka “The Little League Loonies”) because the hockey gods knew of his great potential and saved him from a damning fate. However, now that he signed with the Rangers I have to watch him 8 times a year (the good), possibly helping win some games against by beloved Pens (the bad). Here is evidence of a LLWS player who came down with the Little League Loonies (the ugly).

  • Kel | August 22, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”135153″]My daughter got issued her very first soccer uniform yesterday. She chose my #4, which makes me a proud Daddy, but OUCH, the jerseys are light peach and dark green, to be worn with black shorts and dark green socks! To make it worse, there is even the standard soccer-style logo creep on the jersey numeral. She’s 5 and already a billboard.[/quote]

    My son joined a new challenge club this year and got his uniforms last week. They match the Elon University colors of maroon and white, since they pair up for coaching and such, but yeah, the little swoosh was right there on the front. *eyeroll*

    Sorry about the colors though…peach and green? Ouch.

  • Kim | August 22, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    Regarding the LLWS. I like the games on TV, what I don’t like is the overhype of it all. Let the games and the kids have their charm. Let them wear their normal LL uniforms, not some lame generic uni.

    If the Mets win the NL east, do they ditch their uniforms for ones that read “NL East”? The wildcard winners “NL Wildcard”? Does the World Series pit two teams wearing “American League Champions” vs. “National League Champions”?

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”135166″][quote comment=”135159″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]

    Funny…I didn’t even read the comments from yesterday from about 9am on thanks to actually having work to do. Great minds thinking alike?[/quote]

    You should never let your job interfere with your real work.[/quote]

    On most days it doesn’t. Yesterday was a request from the boss to get something together.

  • Joe Drennan | August 22, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    ESPN needs to air things like regional LLWS games because they think we actualy care abotu them. the truth is I watch when I was a kid because they were kids my own age. I watch in college becasue it was something on TV while I had nothing to do. Now that I am grown and have a life, I barely know who is playing. I only know there is a team from Coon Rapids, MN because it was in the newspaper up here.

    They air high school football and basketball games because the NHL went to the darn VS network where nobody can watch them. I hope the NHL and ESPN realize how much they need each other.

  • Giancarlo | August 22, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”135131″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]
    Here’s hoping not to see “Los Cubs” night and “Los Sox Blancos” night.[/quote]

    The Cubs are usually referred to as Los Cachorros in the Spanish media.

  • Nigel Keenan | August 22, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    Possibly a bit late as an addition to the “One and Done” list, but thought I might as well add it anyway.
    Manchester United wore a one off kit for the 1991 European Cup Winners’ Cup Final against Barcelona. Their home kit was the traditional red, and their away kit that season had been blue both of which feature on Barca’s kit, so United wore an all white kit for the final. Of course, Barca wore their blue change kit anyway, which rendered the whole thing pointless, but it was still a nice shirt.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”135193″][quote comment=”135166″][quote comment=”135159″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]

    Funny…I didn’t even read the comments from yesterday from about 9am on thanks to actually having work to do. Great minds thinking alike?[/quote]

    You should never let your job interfere with your real work.[/quote]

    On most days it doesn’t. Yesterday was a request from the boss to get something together.[/quote]

    I understand. That’s why there are sites like this one.

  • SpartyCuse | August 22, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    Speaking of things ESPN shows, but nobody watches – on Sunday, they had on sport stacking. Its bascially kids, from about 7-15 y/o stacking and unstacking plastic cups. Whats next? Competitive map folding?

  • Billy D | August 22, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    I’m totoally with you on the LLWS thing but it is refreshing to watch sometimes. Yesterday I had the game between Venezuaela and The Netherlands on. In the first inning Netherelands was already down 6-0 and they were still joking around have having a blast. It’s refreshing to see such pure love of the game.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”135188″][quote comment=”135186″][quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?[/quote]

    Don’t know, but he almost bought the house I grew up in. Came home one day from track practice, happened to be wearing #77 to school that day, and walked right into him in my kitchen. Very cool moment because he did a double take due to the jersey. The realtor never said that it was going to be him looking at the house. Ahhh…good times.[/quote]

    That’s REALLY cool.

  • JBClark | August 22, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    I’m so glad to know there are others who agree with me about the LLWS.

    I’ve always hated the LLWS for the same reason I can’t stand reality TV – It’s not reality when there are a dozen cameras running around getting everything on tape and turning regular people into “celebrities.”

  • Kel | August 22, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    My daughter and I were watch the LLWS last night and man, I felt awful for the pitcher who gave up a few runs to lose the game after pitching really well. The poor kid is *12* for pete’s sake. I know that kisd need to learn winning and losing, but the pressure in this seems a bit much.

  • scott | August 22, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    People would also tune in to watch a lynching. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

    But it also doesn’t mean it’s necessarily a bad thing, either. I don’t think ESPN’s broadcasts of the games changes the kids who are playing in any real way, so why get worked up about ESPN’s broadcasting decisions?

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”135202″][quote comment=”135188″][quote comment=”135186″][quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?[/quote]

    Don’t know, but he almost bought the house I grew up in. Came home one day from track practice, happened to be wearing #77 to school that day, and walked right into him in my kitchen. Very cool moment because he did a double take due to the jersey. The realtor never said that it was going to be him looking at the house. Ahhh…good times.[/quote]

    That’s REALLY cool.[/quote]

    It really was, but the coolest thing I did with the Islanders was when they launched “The New Ice Age” in 1992 with Trottier returning as the VP of Marketing. They had the pres conference followed by a great lunch. All season ticket holders who held theirs since 1972 were invited to attend. My grandparents had 8 tickets and I got to go. Loads of pucks and photos were autograhped. I even got a free t-shirt out of it. It was a very memorable event.

  • Daryl | August 22, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    The San Diego Chargers have chosen to wear their white jerseys on opening day at home.

  • Daryl | August 22, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    And here’s the link

  • Jennifer | August 22, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    I think Jack O’Connell from MLB.com needs to check some facts prior to submitting his articles. Jason Kendall (at least since he’s been a Cub) has abandoned the bare knuckles and taken to wearing white (very, very white) batting gloves. I don’t know if he was wearing them in Oakland, since I’m in Chicago….Anyone know when he started wearing ’em?

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”135197″][quote comment=”135193″][quote comment=”135166″][quote comment=”135159″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]

    Funny…I didn’t even read the comments from yesterday from about 9am on thanks to actually having work to do. Great minds thinking alike?[/quote]

    You should never let your job interfere with your real work.[/quote]

    On most days it doesn’t. Yesterday was a request from the boss to get something together.[/quote]

    I understand. That’s why there are sites like this one.[/quote]

    blocked…

    thankfully this site, and the sports message boards I post to are not and that’s what most of my day consists of. Hell, for about two months, I was in on a disscussion on my college’s board relating to the new Nike All-Sports contract and what it was going to do the the football uniforms, as well as the addition of a stripe to the helmet that was rumored but never happened. Just bringing the Uni Watch to other people…spreading the good word…

  • The Ol Goaler | August 22, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]
    So… I guess if the St. Louis Cardinals joined this trend, they’d trot out jerseys with their 1967-68 nickname, “El Birdos”? (Yes, I know it should be “Los Birdos”; nobody pointed out that goof in 1967!) Since the Mets keep insisting that their name isn’t a contraction of “Metropolitan Baseball Club of New York”, I guess “Met” is the same in English, Spanish, German, and/or Mandarin Chinese!

    ‘Course, the San Diego Padres have “Spanish Day” on their unis every day! And what the heck is the Spanish translation for “Dodgers”?

  • Joe from WV | August 22, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    Regarding the players who don’t wear batting gloves, Moises Alou gets his hands tough by urinating on them.

  • Greg | August 22, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    I’d be willing to bet that even though the website does not catch it, CONVICKTED would not be allowed by NFL Shop.

    People encountered the same thing a couple seasons ago when they tried to get Falcons #7 jerseys with MEXICO on the back.

  • Kenny | August 22, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”135189″][quote comment=”135185″]i think readers here can manage to criticize anything. the llws kids are just that… kids (except for almonte, but that seems isolated) who aren’t playing for money or endorsements. they’re playing because they love baseball. they’re 12 years old, so please don’t blame them for not being major league talent. and at this stage this is the most important thing.

    it’s great to see a whole team get excited for a home run. these kids have been playing through tons of rounds (much more than mlb playoffs) so every moment in the llws is awesome. And wasn’t that game saving catch on a possible walkoff not one of the best sports moments you’ve seen in a while?

    the llws is great becuase it gets to the root of why we love sports, no money, just the glory. let these kids have their day in the sun.[/quote]

    yeah we basically can criticize anything thats what makes this site fun. i’m not saying a team shouldn’t be excited because they hit a home run i just find the whole team gathering around at the plate after every home run (which are very frequent i might add) to crowd around the player who hit it and make a big spectacle out of it, it shows to me nothing but disrespect and showboating, high five him in the dug out and crowd around him when he hits the game winning home run not in the first inning. and honestly llws is the embodiment of whats wrong with sports from espn to all the stupid sponsors, annoying parents and coaches.[/quote]

    They are frickin’ 12 years old. I never hit a home run in little league – a gap hitter though ;) – anyways, you want bitch about the whole dugout coming out for a home run, chew on this (and they are grown women!!!)

  • Giancarlo | August 22, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”135216″]

    And what the heck is the Spanish translation for “Dodgers”?[/quote]

    Los Esquivadores.

  • Marty Met | August 22, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”135217″]Regarding the players who don’t wear batting gloves, Moises Alou gets his hands tough by urinating on them.[/quote]

    He should have requested number 1 when he signed with the Mets. I thought it might have been unofficially retired but Castillo got it when he came over from the Twinkies a few weeks ago.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”135206″][quote comment=”135202″][quote comment=”135188″][quote comment=”135186″][quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?[/quote]

    Don’t know, but he almost bought the house I grew up in. Came home one day from track practice, happened to be wearing #77 to school that day, and walked right into him in my kitchen. Very cool moment because he did a double take due to the jersey. The realtor never said that it was going to be him looking at the house. Ahhh…good times.[/quote]

    That’s REALLY cool.[/quote]

    It really was, but the coolest thing I did with the Islanders was when they launched “The New Ice Age” in 1992 with Trottier returning as the VP of Marketing. They had the pres conference followed by a great lunch. All season ticket holders who held theirs since 1972 were invited to attend. My grandparents had 8 tickets and I got to go. Loads of pucks and photos were autograhped. I even got a free t-shirt out of it. It was a very memorable event.[/quote]

    As a Caps fan…I’ve got no love for the Isles. (I just remember Pat LaFontaine ripping my heart out in 5th grade @ about 2am…that multi-OT game.) But I’ve always liked Turgeon. Hated that Hunter ran him through the boards after that goal in the playoffs.

  • Anthony Verna | August 22, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”135216″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]
    So… I guess if the St. Louis Cardinals joined this trend, they’d trot out jerseys with their 1967-68 nickname, “El Birdos”? (Yes, I know it should be “Los Birdos”; nobody pointed out that goof in 1967!) Since the Mets keep insisting that their name isn’t a contraction of “Metropolitan Baseball Club of New York”, I guess “Met” is the same in English, Spanish, German, and/or Mandarin Chinese!

    ‘Course, the San Diego Padres have “Spanish Day” on their unis every day! And what the heck is the Spanish translation for “Dodgers”?[/quote]

    Los Dodgers.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”135186″][quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?[/quote]

    He did. Just found this:
    http://www.littlelea...

  • jacob | August 22, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    has anyone seen saltalamacchia wearing a vest for the rangers yet?

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”135223″][quote comment=”135216″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]
    So… I guess if the St. Louis Cardinals joined this trend, they’d trot out jerseys with their 1967-68 nickname, “El Birdos”? (Yes, I know it should be “Los Birdos”; nobody pointed out that goof in 1967!) Since the Mets keep insisting that their name isn’t a contraction of “Metropolitan Baseball Club of New York”, I guess “Met” is the same in English, Spanish, German, and/or Mandarin Chinese!

    ‘Course, the San Diego Padres have “Spanish Day” on their unis every day! And what the heck is the Spanish translation for “Dodgers”?[/quote]

    Los Dodgers.[/quote]

    In Houston, it is Los Astros, but don’t look for the Astros to have a Hispanic night…oddly enough…

  • Kenny | August 22, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    I love the LLWS mostly because it reminds me of football camp (didn’t love camp, just being with the guys) – we would watch the LLWS and re-runs of American Gladiators during lunch

  • Dave S | August 22, 2007 at 11:47 am |

    Here’s a funny link for an idea for a new Canucks Logo. Using all their old logos in a very creative way.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”135222″][quote comment=”135206″][quote comment=”135202″][quote comment=”135188″][quote comment=”135186″][quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    Didn’t Pierre Turgeon play in the LLWS as well?[/quote]

    Don’t know, but he almost bought the house I grew up in. Came home one day from track practice, happened to be wearing #77 to school that day, and walked right into him in my kitchen. Very cool moment because he did a double take due to the jersey. The realtor never said that it was going to be him looking at the house. Ahhh…good times.[/quote]

    That’s REALLY cool.[/quote]

    It really was, but the coolest thing I did with the Islanders was when they launched “The New Ice Age” in 1992 with Trottier returning as the VP of Marketing. They had the pres conference followed by a great lunch. All season ticket holders who held theirs since 1972 were invited to attend. My grandparents had 8 tickets and I got to go. Loads of pucks and photos were autograhped. I even got a free t-shirt out of it. It was a very memorable event.[/quote]

    As a Caps fan…I’ve got no love for the Isles. (I just remember Pat LaFontaine ripping my heart out in 5th grade @ about 2am…that multi-OT game.) But I’ve always liked Turgeon. Hated that Hunter ran him through the boards after that goal in the playoffs.[/quote]

    I can understand your pain because even though that was a great goal I always hated the way that LaFontaine left. He held out and forced a trade. That was the first time I was introduced to the business side of the game. I kept asking my father, “Why won’t he play? He has a contract.” I never held him in any kind of esteem after that.

    Granted, it was the trade that brought in Turgeon, but that’s besides the point.

    And yes, I wanted to drive to DC and break Hunter’s wrist after that hit.

  • Robert | August 22, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    Wow, you don’t see these Turn Ahead the Clock jerseys on ebay every day.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Mike V | August 22, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”135232″]Here’s a funny link for an idea for a new Canucks Logo. Using all their old logos in a very creative way.[/quote]
    Thats cool!

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”135231″]I love the LLWS mostly because it reminds me of football camp (didn’t love camp, just being with the guys) – we would watch the LLWS and re-runs of American Gladiators during lunch[/quote]

    My favorite thing about the Little League WS…it’s the last big event that has to happen before it’s time for FOOTBALL season! You get past MLB all-star game, and football teams open camp. You get past LLWS, and college ball is usually starting a few days later!

  • Giancarlo | August 22, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”135223″] And what the heck is the Spanish translation for “Dodgers”?[/quote]

    Los Dodgers.[/quote]

    Officially, you are correct. Los Esquivadores is used a lot informally, though. Here’s the whole league in translation.

  • simonsdaddy | August 22, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”135151″][quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.[/quote]

    People would also tune in to watch a lynching. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.[/quote]

    WOW…that’s just a little overly dramatic. You obviously have no children because there really isn’t anything wrong with the LLWS. IT’S A GAME AND THE KIDS ARE HAVING FUN

  • possum | August 22, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”135173″][quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.

    Is there evidence all the media attention actually harms the kids? What, do they all grow up to become serial killers or something? Geez, guys, lighten up.[/quote]
    I disagree, ESPN pretty much broadcasts anything they want, regardless if people watch it or not. Actually, I believe they try to force-feed sports to us that normally people don’t care about (i.e. Arena Football, Darts, Bowling, and the LLWS).

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]
    Dead on. ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.

  • Dan B-P | August 22, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    Joe from WV sort of beat me to it, but the MLB.com article fails to mention that…other substance… that Posada and Alou use to get a grip. They even interviewed Posada and for some reason neglected to bring it up.

  • Jason | August 22, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”135167″]

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired
    [/quote]

    Really? I got a new retro-Brewer jersey with ’44 Aaron’ on the back with no problem.

  • Adam | August 22, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”135242″][quote comment=”135151″][quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.[/quote]

    People would also tune in to watch a lynching. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.[/quote]

    WOW…that’s just a little overly dramatic. You obviously have no children because there really isn’t anything wrong with the LLWS. IT’S A GAME AND THE KIDS ARE HAVING FUN[/quote]

    You’re missing the point entirely. There’s nothing wrong with kids playing a game and having fun. What’s messed up is the whole country watching them, obsessing over every little detail, and turning it into a big media event.

  • Marty Met | August 22, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”135238″][quote comment=”135231″]I love the LLWS mostly because it reminds me of football camp (didn’t love camp, just being with the guys) – we would watch the LLWS and re-runs of American Gladiators during lunch[/quote]

    My favorite thing about the Little League WS…it’s the last big event that has to happen before it’s time for FOOTBALL season! You get past MLB all-star game, and football teams open camp. You get past LLWS, and college ball is usually starting a few days later![/quote]

    huh? what about the US Open?

  • John | August 22, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”135197″][quote comment=”135193″][quote comment=”135166″][quote comment=”135159″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]

    Funny…I didn’t even read the comments from yesterday from about 9am on thanks to actually having work to do. Great minds thinking alike?[/quote]

    You should never let your job interfere with your real work.[/quote]

    On most days it doesn’t. Yesterday was a request from the boss to get something together.[/quote]

    I understand. That’s why there are sites like this one.[/quote]

    Does this mean that the Phillies will be the “Fillies” or “Filadelfia Fillies”

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”135241″][quote comment=”135223″] And what the heck is the Spanish translation for “Dodgers”?[/quote]

    Los Dodgers.[/quote]

    Officially, you are correct. Los Esquivadores is used a lot informally, though. Here’s the whole league in translation.[/quote]

    Does anyone else see Vigilantes de Texas as a slam against the Rangers?

  • Joe Drennan | August 22, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”135237″][quote comment=”135232″]Here’s a funny link for an idea for a new Canucks Logo. Using all their old logos in a very creative way.[/quote]
    Thats cool![/quote]
    Briliant..Flippin Brilliant

  • jesse | August 22, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”135204″]My daughter and I were watch the LLWS last night and man, I felt awful for the pitcher who gave up a few runs to lose the game after pitching really well. The poor kid is *12* for pete’s sake. I know that kisd need to learn winning and losing, but the pressure in this seems a bit much.[/quote]

    I just die for those kids when they loose. I can’t imagine how hard they work, and how bad they feel when they loose. Giving up a walk off home run in the World Series must be awful, but seriously, imagine if you were 12, and you are representing your whole country. The poise on those “kids” is absolutely amazing; I think we could probably all learn a least a little something about sportsmanship from watching them play.

    I also like the fact that even in the most important final deciding game, with full all star teams, that every kid has to play. Little League rules, just like when you were a kid.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”135243″]
    ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.[/quote]

    ESPN is directly responsible, though not completely responsible, for the death of NHL hockey in the United States.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”135247″][quote comment=”135238″][quote comment=”135231″]I love the LLWS mostly because it reminds me of football camp (didn’t love camp, just being with the guys) – we would watch the LLWS and re-runs of American Gladiators during lunch[/quote]

    My favorite thing about the Little League WS…it’s the last big event that has to happen before it’s time for FOOTBALL season! You get past MLB all-star game, and football teams open camp. You get past LLWS, and college ball is usually starting a few days later![/quote]

    huh? what about the US Open?[/quote]

    By the time the US Open ends, we’ll have seen 2 weekends of college football and most of opening weekend of the NFL. (the 1:00 games at least)

  • Greg | August 22, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”135160″][quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]
    I think the Twins should have a Canada night for Justin Morneau and make him feel better. Isn’t there a duth player somewher ein the league too? That mans we need a Holland night.

    I am all for teams recognizing local populaces. San Diego has military night for an obvious reason, but I’ve been through Brewerville and if they’re going to change the language on their jersey, it should not be to Spanish, but to German. I like how the White Sox have their half way to St. Patty’s Day jerssey as a way to recognize Chicago’s South Side Irish (something I grew up in).

    Every community has Spanish speaking folks, but that doesn’t mean the community is predominatly latino, therefore, in my opinion, meaning not every team needs to have their Spanish nights where they change the jersey.

    I can’t remember where it is, I think it’s here in Minnesota, but some MLB team throught the season recognizes many different nationalities having Italian night, Irish night, Hmong night and so on, but they don’t change their jerseys on those nights, they simply make reference to it on the jumbotron and there is a noticible influx in fans of that nationality that night.

    If teams are going to continue this Spanish thing, I demand Irish jerseys with team names in Galic darn it.[/quote]

    The Pirates have around 8 nationality days. It’s usually always sunday games. Polish day, Italian day, Irish day, Greek day, etc. And yeah, no uniform changes just an acknowledgment throughout the game and stuff like that.

  • Chitown Joe | August 22, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”135217″]Regarding the players who don’t wear batting gloves, Moises Alou gets his hands tough by urinating on them.[/quote]

    When he was with the Cubs no one would slap five after a dinger because of this.

  • Eric | August 22, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”135200″]Speaking of things ESPN shows, but nobody watches – on Sunday, they had on sport stacking. Its bascially kids, from about 7-15 y/o stacking and unstacking plastic cups. Whats next? Competitive map folding?[/quote]
    Hey, I would watch that. The day they started laminating maps was one of the great days in history.

  • Tom | August 22, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”135134″][quote comment=”135131″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]
    Here’s hoping not to see “Los Cubs” night and “Los Sox Blancos” night.[/quote]

    Los Calcetines del Blanco?

    Calcetines Blancos!
    Calcetines Blancos!
    Lets Go Calcetines Blancos![/quote]

    Viva Osos Pequenos

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    OK, I know I started the whole thing, but now I’m gonna end it too: I think enough of us have staked out positions on the LLWS. Let’s get back to uniforms, OK?

    Thanks.

  • simonsdaddy | August 22, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”135246″][quote comment=”135242″][quote comment=”135151″][quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.[/quote]

    People would also tune in to watch a lynching. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.[/quote]

    WOW…that’s just a little overly dramatic. You obviously have no children because there really isn’t anything wrong with the LLWS. IT’S A GAME AND THE KIDS ARE HAVING FUN[/quote]

    You’re missing the point entirely. There’s nothing wrong with kids playing a game and having fun. What’s messed up is the whole country watching them, obsessing over every little detail, and turning it into a big media event.[/quote]

    I didn’t miss the point, he compared it to tuning in to watch a lynching. If you don’t like it don’t watch…like I do with the WNBA

  • Purple Brigade | August 22, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”135232″]Here’s a funny link for an idea for a new Canucks Logo. Using all their old logos in a very creative way.[/quote]

    That right there is hilarious. Friggin awesome.

    My compliments to the chef.

  • Chad G | August 22, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”135221″][quote comment=”135217″]Regarding the players who don’t wear batting gloves, Moises Alou gets his hands tough by urinating on them.[/quote]

    He should have requested number 1 when he signed with the Mets. I thought it might have been unofficially retired but Castillo got it when he came over from the Twinkies a few weeks ago.[/quote]

    #1 was never unofficially retired for the Mets. Anderson Hernandez who is on the 40 man roster wore #1 but switched to 4 when Castillo came over. Hernandez had been up a few times this year with the #1 jersey.

  • Chris in Cowtown | August 22, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    Article on NHL Calgary Flames’ new jersey and how those that are guessing haven’t got it right yet.
    http://www2.sportsne...

  • slam | August 22, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    I was watching the Blue Jays play the Athletics the last few night. I did not like the game results but I noticed that during the first game of the series, the players wore the “T” caps while the coaches/manager wore the “bird with J” caps. Last night, it was the opposite. What gives?

    Are they doing that as a way to get out of their funk?

    I think its bad enough that many of the coaches/manager around the league don’t wear the jerseys anymore. If this keeps up, they’ll be dressed like NFL coaches soon.

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”135245″][quote comment=”135167″]

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired
    [/quote]

    Really? I got a new retro-Brewer jersey with ’44 Aaron’ on the back with no problem.[/quote]
    From the MLB shop? That’s unusual. Somebody fell asleep at that switch.

    My understanding is that it has to do with the licensing contracts.

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”135254″][quote comment=”135243″]
    ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.[/quote]

    ESPN is directly responsible, though not completely responsible, for the death of NHL hockey in the United States.[/quote]
    Really? How do you figure?

  • Eriq Jaffe | August 22, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”135261″]OK, I know I started the whole thing, but now I’m gonna end it too: I think enough of us have staked out positions on the LLWS. Let’s get back to uniforms, OK?

    Thanks.[/quote]

    For the record, the LLWS uniforms are pretty atrocious, too.

  • Dustin | August 22, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    Here’s the link to the PawSox hat with the appropriate lettering: Aftermath Navy.

  • MPC | August 22, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”135118″]…and what about the Jets…would they become the Titans for a game or two? [/quote]

    Looks like that’s exactly what they’re doing…with the merchandise to boot.

  • simonsdaddy | August 22, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    yeah yeah delete my post

  • Jason | August 22, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”135232″]Here’s a funny link for an idea for a new Canucks Logo. Using all their old logos in a very creative way.[/quote]

    Now that was hilarious. If I owned the team, I’d use that logo.

  • E Ro | August 22, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”135251″][quote comment=”135237″][quote comment=”135232″]Here’s a funny link for an idea for a new Canucks Logo. Using all their old logos in a very creative way.[/quote]
    Thats cool![/quote]
    Briliant..Flippin Brilliant[/quote]

    I wouldn’t be against this being their sweater logo.

  • Roger Faso | August 22, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    Just mail in some cash (as several members have done)!

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 22, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    I feel your pain, Roger. Do you get the eye roll when read through all the site posts on your wife’s laptop during the evening news because so many of the links are blocked by your work computer’s firewall? Hypothetically speaking, of course.
    BTW, if there is a Sport Clips franchise in your area, I highly recommend a visit.

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    I haven’t become a mamber yet because all extra money now goes to buying diapers for my newborn…though I might have to treat myself when Paul gets close to #500…

  • tim b | August 22, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    Speaking of C’s, found this linked off SbB today regarding Michigan’s C’s…

    http://www.maizenbre...

  • James P. | August 22, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”135290″][quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    I feel your pain, Roger. Do you get the eye roll when read through all the site posts on your wife’s laptop during the evening news because so many of the links are blocked by your work computer’s firewall? Hypothetically speaking, of course.
    BTW, if there is a Sport Clips franchise in your area, I highly recommend a visit.[/quote]

    I stopped going to Sports Clips because the girls there couldn’t give me a good hair cut to save their lives…though Knockouts seems to be a good alternative for Sports Clips if there is one in your area..

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 22, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”135293″][quote comment=”135290″][quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    I feel your pain, Roger. Do you get the eye roll when read through all the site posts on your wife’s laptop during the evening news because so many of the links are blocked by your work computer’s firewall? Hypothetically speaking, of course.
    BTW, if there is a Sport Clips franchise in your area, I highly recommend a visit.[/quote]

    I stopped going to Sports Clips because the girls there couldn’t give me a good hair cut to save their lives…though Knockouts seems to be a good alternative for Sports Clips if there is one in your area..[/quote]

    With my melon, there is no such thing as a “good hair cut” – hence my choice of Sports Clips over Hair Cuttery or Great Clips et al. Hell, if Hooters girls gave out haircuts with wings and beer, I’d be there in a heartbeat.
    Know anybody at Knockouts that can get a location in Chicagoland?

  • Rob T | August 22, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    The Denver Broncos have navy-blue pants that I think have only been worn four times. They look nasty, but I think they came out for a game as recently as 2006, so I don’t know if they count as a one-off jersey item or not. I do think I remember them being worn with the white shirts during the jersey’s first season, though–the Broncos learned their lesson, and since then have paired them with a blue shirt.

  • Nate | August 22, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    Regarding the LLWS. I like the games on TV, what I don’t like is the overhype of it all. Let the games and the kids have their charm. Let them wear their normal LL uniforms, not some lame generic uni.

    If they did that, then they could end up with 16 teams all wearing purple.

  • Matt B | August 22, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    >Just mail in some cash (as several members have done)!

    Perhaps money orders are a little more secure? If you don’t mind a trip to the Post Office, that is.

  • El Santo | August 22, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    Regarding the Iowa State vote: The one with the cursive Cyclones is pretty slick.

    Also, I’m loving the “Ocho Tres” helmet. I dug Chad Johnson’s vow that he would continue with his antics despite NFL fines. Great Chad. Just bring back the cool yellow mohawk, OK?

  • Banker Bill | August 22, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”135119″]In Re: LLWS, i caught a game where one team was wearing stirups, but they all had them on backwards …. what is wrong with the parents letting them go out like that?

    Also, why “Los Mets”? The mets do not have “The Mets” on their jersey? If anything, they should put Nueva York on the jersey.[/quote]

    I’m not sure about the jerseys, but the Mets have a spanish version of their website at http://www.losmets.c... – I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

  • Stephen | August 22, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    Come on, ESPN televises poker for crying out loud. Since when is poker a sport? I like ESPN, but the television coverage gets out of control sometimes.

    On a Uni related note, Jeff Francoeur has “Joshua 1:9” on his batting gloves (it’s a Bible verse). You can see it on last year’s glove here and on the new Under Armour ones he is wearing this year. But last night, it looked like he was wearing plain Under Armour batting gloves. No picture from the game last night, but did anybody else catch that?

    ~E~

  • possum | August 22, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    Cool auction for a photo of the 1913 Birmingham Barons. Nothing too interesting in the way of the unis, but the quality is excellent.

  • Banker Bill | August 22, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”135177″][quote comment=”135173″]

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Despite the comedy in that comment, I will point out that this kid was a pretty damned good baseball player, and he turned out ok.[/quote]

    My thoughts EXACTLY Teebz – The only kids I EVER remember from the LLWS are Chris Drury and Sean Burroughs.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”135277″][quote comment=”135254″][quote comment=”135243″]
    ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.[/quote]

    ESPN is directly responsible, though not completely responsible, for the death of NHL hockey in the United States.[/quote]
    Really? How do you figure?[/quote]

    Tell me you’re not serious.

    The NHL gets less coverage than the World Bellyflop Championships on ESPN. Their hockey department on ESPN.com consists of four people. The Worldwide Leader In Sports Advertising Dollars certainly gives the NHL a fair shake… excuse my sarcasm.

  • Eric | August 22, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    I am now posting a link on this blog to another blog that I discovered while reading a 3rd blog.

    Somebody started a picture blog of people wearing strange and/or outdated jerseys.

  • John Baranowski | August 22, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”135313″]Come on, ESPN televises poker for crying out loud. Since when is poker a sport? I like ESPN, but the television coverage gets out of control sometimes.
    ~E~[/quote]

    and eating contests and spelling bees and darts and arm wrestling on ESPN Classic (i saw it, i emailed espn i was so ticked) and i flipped out when i saw scrabble on espn the other day. for a great writing on this (i wish i wrote it) that i’d hate to repost here, take a look you won’t be disappointed!

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”135319″][quote comment=”135277″][quote comment=”135254″][quote comment=”135243″]
    ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.[/quote]

    ESPN is directly responsible, though not completely responsible, for the death of NHL hockey in the United States.[/quote]
    Really? How do you figure?[/quote]

    Tell me you’re not serious.

    The NHL gets less coverage than the World Bellyflop Championships on ESPN. Their hockey department on ESPN.com consists of four people. The Worldwide Leader In Sports Advertising Dollars certainly gives the NHL a fair shake… excuse my sarcasm.[/quote]
    Place the blame where it belongs – with the commissioner who decided to move the sport to a wilderness channel.

    Same genius who moved the game to a Wednesday so he wouldn’t have to compete with any other sporting programs.

    ESPN may be a convenient target, but it’s the wrong one.

  • tim | August 22, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”135194″]ESPN needs to air things like regional LLWS games because they think we actualy care abotu them. the truth is I watch when I was a kid because they were kids my own age. I watch in college becasue it was something on TV while I had nothing to do. Now that I am grown and have a life, I barely know who is playing. I only know there is a team from Coon Rapids, MN because it was in the newspaper up here.

    They air high school football and basketball games because the NHL went to the darn VS network where nobody can watch them. I hope the NHL and ESPN realize how much they need each other.[/quote]

    nobody cares about hockey except barry melrose

    blah blah blah hockey hockey..dead

  • Jeff B | August 22, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”135319″][quote comment=”135277″][quote comment=”135254″][quote comment=”135243″]
    ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.[/quote]

    ESPN is directly responsible, though not completely responsible, for the death of NHL hockey in the United States.[/quote]
    Really? How do you figure?[/quote]

    Tell me you’re not serious.

    The NHL gets less coverage than the World Bellyflop Championships on ESPN. Their hockey department on ESPN.com consists of four people. The Worldwide Leader In Sports Advertising Dollars certainly gives the NHL a fair shake… excuse my sarcasm.[/quote]

    The thing with ESPN is they have 24 hrs of time to fill. They won’t put on infomercials like other stations, so its limitless reruns of WSOP and bowling. During the day they can only do so many different shows that say the same things about Michael Vick or whatever, and its cheaper for then to send a camera or 2 and get some guys to edit footage of the World Series of Rock Paper Scissors than to broadcast the NHL, especially for a fractional point ratings jump.

    That’s why they need to institute “The UniWatch Show, with Paul Lukas.”

  • Banker Bill | August 22, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”135245″][quote comment=”135167″]

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired
    [/quote]

    Really? I got a new retro-Brewer jersey with ’44 Aaron’ on the back with no problem.[/quote]

    Aaron didn’t retire as a Brewer – he retired as a Brave.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”135329″][quote comment=”135245″][quote comment=”135167″]

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired
    [/quote]

    Really? I got a new retro-Brewer jersey with ’44 Aaron’ on the back with no problem.[/quote]

    Aaron didn’t retire as a Brewer – he retired as a Brave.[/quote]

    Ummm…no he didn’t. The Braves traded Aaron to the Milwaukee Brewers for Roger Alexander and Dave May. Because the Brewers were an American League team, he was able to extend his career by taking advantage of the designated hitter rule.

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”135329″][quote comment=”135245″][quote comment=”135167″]

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired
    [/quote]

    Really? I got a new retro-Brewer jersey with ’44 Aaron’ on the back with no problem.[/quote]

    Aaron didn’t retire as a Brewer – he retired as a Brave.[/quote]

    ?

    Did he sign one of those one-day contracts? I don’t remember that.

  • Mike V | August 22, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”135319″][quote comment=”135277″][quote comment=”135254″][quote comment=”135243″]
    ESPN determines what is popular in this country from a sports perspective. It started with football.[/quote]

    ESPN is directly responsible, though not completely responsible, for the death of NHL hockey in the United States.[/quote]
    Really? How do you figure?[/quote]

    Tell me you’re not serious.

    The NHL gets less coverage than the World Bellyflop Championships on ESPN. Their hockey department on ESPN.com consists of four people. The Worldwide Leader In Sports Advertising Dollars certainly gives the NHL a fair shake… excuse my sarcasm.[/quote]
    Teebz is 100% right on this one. I remember the glory days of NHL Tonight and actually having more than 10 second clips on Sportscenter. Put it this way, if it turned out that Sidney Crosby was the actual 2nd coming of Christ and he has found the cure to cancer and aids, it still would be buried in the second half of Sportscenter. Hey, lets all turn to Versus to watch the game!!! Oh wait, we can’t.

  • Mike V | August 22, 2007 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”135327″][quote comment=”135194″]ESPN needs to air things like regional LLWS games because they think we actualy care abotu them. the truth is I watch when I was a kid because they were kids my own age. I watch in college becasue it was something on TV while I had nothing to do. Now that I am grown and have a life, I barely know who is playing. I only know there is a team from Coon Rapids, MN because it was in the newspaper up here.

    They air high school football and basketball games because the NHL went to the darn VS network where nobody can watch them. I hope the NHL and ESPN realize how much they need each other.[/quote]

    nobody cares about hockey except barry melrose

    blah blah blah hockey hockey..dead[/quote]
    I guess hockey is dead because there are not as many criminals in their league as in all the others. So therefore it is in the news less.

    Baseball-Steroids
    Basketball- Refs fixing games
    Football- enough said.
    Hockey- ???? (maybe Staal and his brother, but thats just boys being boys.)

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    Not completely uni related but bequipment related. Nice quick read.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”135326″]
    Same genius who moved the game to a Wednesday so he wouldn’t have to compete with any other sporting programs. [/quote]

    In case you’ve missed the last 10 years, the NHL cannot compete with the NFL or MLB in the US. It needs a chance to compete, and going head-to-head with those other leagues is suicide.

    [quote comment=”135326″]ESPN may be a convenient target, but it’s the wrong one.[/quote]

    I disagree. Lead ESPN with hockey highlights once a week, and I won’t complain. Burying it 20 minutes in after every other leagues’ highlights, Chris Berman’s rant, and the World Hot Dog Eating Championship highlights is why no one south of Minneapolis knows that the NHL is one of the “big four” leagues.

    [quote comment=”135328″]
    The thing with ESPN is they have 24 hrs of time to fill. They won’t put on infomercials like other stations, so its limitless reruns of WSOP and bowling. During the day they can only do so many different shows that say the same things about Michael Vick or whatever, and its cheaper for then to send a camera or 2 and get some guys to edit footage of the World Series of Rock Paper Scissors than to broadcast the NHL, especially for a fractional point ratings jump.
    [/quote]

    Hockey is still a major professional sport. There are more professional hockey teams in the state of Texas than in all of Canada, so it’s not like people don’t care about hockey in the US. The lack of exposure that it gets through the only major sports network in the US is a major reason why it hasn’t moved from 4th place out of the four major professional leagues.

    While I agree that the NHL needs ESPN, they also need to turn a profit. Versus outbid “the Worldwide Leader” to carry the games. As a businessman, what decision would you make – money, or a promise of something better when there’s no guarantee that it will be better?

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”135335″]Not completely uni related but bequipment related. Nice quick read.[/quote]

    I meant to say “equipment related”. Have fun.

  • Banker Bill | August 22, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”135331″][quote comment=”135329″][quote comment=”135245″][quote comment=”135167″]

    On the MLB shop, you couldn’t get one of those. Their first two rules of customizing:

    – League player names must match current team rosters and the team for which they currently play
    – Retired player names cannot be printed on the team’s jersey from which they retired
    [/quote]

    Really? I got a new retro-Brewer jersey with ’44 Aaron’ on the back with no problem.[/quote]

    Aaron didn’t retire as a Brewer – he retired as a Brave.[/quote]

    Ummm…no he didn’t. The Braves traded Aaron to the Milwaukee Brewers for Roger Alexander and Dave May. Because the Brewers were an American League team, he was able to extend his career by taking advantage of the designated hitter rule.[/quote]

    Complete brain cramp – you’re right – I completely forgot about that – see what happens when you actually have to work at your job?

  • Jason | August 22, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”135323″][quote comment=”135313″]Come on, ESPN televises poker for crying out loud. Since when is poker a sport? I like ESPN, but the television coverage gets out of control sometimes.
    ~E~[/quote]

    and eating contests and spelling bees and darts and arm wrestling on ESPN Classic (i saw it, i emailed espn i was so ticked) and i flipped out when i saw scrabble on espn the other day. for a great writing on this (i wish i wrote it) that i’d hate to repost here, take a look you won’t be disappointed![/quote]

    I agree with a lot of the things in that blog but if I had to add to that I’d say return the NBA to NBC…watching a game or pregame show on ESPN/ABC is painful. The NBA on NBC wasn’t always perfect but it was a hell of a lot better than anything ESPN/ABC has done with the one exception being Bill Walton. I used to hate him but now I have grown to love his dumb comments and his catch phrases: Throw it down big man and play some deeeefense. lol.

    You know what would be hilarious if Joe Theisman got sacked by LT in the booth during a Monday Night Giants game to put us out of our misery.

  • Stuby | August 22, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”135291″][quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    I haven’t become a mamber yet because all extra money now goes to buying diapers for my newborn…though I might have to treat myself when Paul gets close to #500…[/quote]
    Trust me James, you probably won’t have any ‘extra money’ for the next 25 years or so.

  • Nyght | August 22, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    I’m with you on the LLWS thing. It’s just creepy.

  • Jeff | August 22, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    And I’m sure your wife has NEVER made a “frivilous” $20 purchase before. ;-)

  • Banker Bill | August 22, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”135341″][quote comment=”135323″][quote comment=”135313″]Come on, ESPN televises poker for crying out loud. Since when is poker a sport? I like ESPN, but the television coverage gets out of control sometimes.
    ~E~[/quote]

    and eating contests and spelling bees and darts and arm wrestling on ESPN Classic (i saw it, i emailed espn i was so ticked) and i flipped out when i saw scrabble on espn the other day. for a great writing on this (i wish i wrote it) that i’d hate to repost here, take a look you won’t be disappointed![/quote]

    I agree with a lot of the things in that blog but if I had to add to that I’d say return the NBA to NBC…watching a game or pregame show on ESPN/ABC is painful. The NBA on NBC wasn’t always perfect but it was a hell of a lot better than anything ESPN/ABC has done with the one exception being Bill Walton. I used to hate him but now I have grown to love his dumb comments and his catch phrases: Throw it down big man and play some deeeefense. lol.

    You know what would be hilarious if Joe Theisman got sacked by LT in the booth during a Monday Night Giants game to put us out of our misery.[/quote]

    No need for that – ESPN sacked Theismann – Ron Jaworski is in the booth this year with Tirico and Corn-holio (I meant Kornheiser).

  • Banker Bill | August 22, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    Looky what I found today – another imitator.

    http://community.fox...

  • Jeff B | August 22, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”135336]

    Hockey is still a major professional sport. There are more professional hockey teams in the state of Texas than in all of Canada, so it’s not like people don’t care about hockey in the US. The lack of exposure that it gets through the only major sports network in the US is a major reason why it hasn’t moved from 4th place out of the four major professional leagues.

    While I agree that the NHL needs ESPN, they also need to turn a profit. Versus outbid “the Worldwide Leader” to carry the games. As a businessman, what decision would you make – money, or a promise of something better when there’s no guarantee that it will be better?[/quote]

    The thing is, like I was sort of saying, the NHL and hockey needs ESPN more than ESPN needs hockey. Further, with the Disney/ABC empire backing it, ESPN doesn’t need to turn a profit on their broadcasting and therefore doesn’t need to do all it can to gain ratings. As for hockey itself, as long as it still has owners of teams, say the Blackhawks, who won’t put games on TV because no one would pay to go to the game if its on tv for free, it won’t get any respect from any media outlets, local or national. Combine that with hockey being great in person, and hard to watch on tv, in my opinion, and we are where we are.

  • todd krevanchi | August 22, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    reebok is going all out for fans…
    sideline cap

    sneaker (called the recline)

    interesting match…

  • Jim | August 22, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    That made up Canuks logo made me puke on my desk….

  • M | August 22, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    has anyone thought that since EVERY 8 in and around Fenway seems to be upside down that maybe, just maybe, thats how its supposed to look with the Red Sox font?

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”135348″][quote comment=”135336]

    Hockey is still a major professional sport. There are more professional hockey teams in the state of Texas than in all of Canada, so it’s not like people don’t care about hockey in the US. The lack of exposure that it gets through the only major sports network in the US is a major reason why it hasn’t moved from 4th place out of the four major professional leagues.

    While I agree that the NHL needs ESPN, they also need to turn a profit. Versus outbid “the Worldwide Leader” to carry the games. As a businessman, what decision would you make – money, or a promise of something better when there’s no guarantee that it will be better?[/quote]

    The thing is, like I was sort of saying, the NHL and hockey needs ESPN more than ESPN needs hockey. Further, with the Disney/ABC empire backing it, ESPN doesn’t need to turn a profit on their broadcasting and therefore doesn’t need to do all it can to gain ratings. As for hockey itself, as long as it still has owners of teams, say the Blackhawks, who won’t put games on TV because no one would pay to go to the game if its on tv for free, it won’t get any respect from any media outlets, local or national. Combine that with hockey being great in person, and hard to watch on tv, in my opinion, and we are where we are.[/quote]

    I agreed with you untill you got to the Blackhawks part. With owners like David Glass (KC Royals), Carl Pohlad (MN Twins), Jeffrey Loria (FL Marlins) and others you would think that Baseball was doing horrible as well. But sometimes it’s about more than what’s on the field/ice. MLB has their act together when it comes to marketing and the NHL doesn’t. Sometimes it’s just that simple.MLB

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”135348″]
    The thing is, like I was sort of saying, the NHL and hockey needs ESPN more than ESPN needs hockey. Further, with the Disney/ABC empire backing it, ESPN doesn’t need to turn a profit on their broadcasting and therefore doesn’t need to do all it can to gain ratings. As for hockey itself, as long as it still has owners of teams, say the Blackhawks, who won’t put games on TV because no one would pay to go to the game if its on tv for free, it won’t get any respect from any media outlets, local or national. Combine that with hockey being great in person, and hard to watch on tv, in my opinion, and we are where we are.[/quote]

    Aside from Wirtz being a total putz when it comes to his fanbase (show the road games, you idiot!), the NHL on NBC shows regional games for free. The problem is that the NHL is basically doing that for nothing. They need some sort of hockey show on ESPN that addresses the people who are fringe fans – one that explains the rules like icing and offsides while still being comprehensive enough to attract the die-hards with some quality programming.

    As for being hard to watch on TV, how is it hard to watch?

  • Roger Faso | August 22, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”135351″]has anyone thought that since EVERY 8 in and around Fenway seems to be upside down that maybe, just maybe, thats how its supposed to look with the Red Sox font?[/quote]

    They are a cryptic franchise. Afterall, there is a morse code message painted right in their score board.

    They must be run by the Masons.

  • Casey | August 22, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.

  • S. Menecola | August 22, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    The NHL does have criminals and unruly (sp?) characters. Chris Pronger left Edmonton for Anaheim because he hooked (and knocked) upwith the local weather girl (fact). Plus we have Ed Belfour with his anctics. and recently a former sharks now leafs player is going to jail for drinking and driving and earliar this summer the Staal brothers were arrested in MN for being to loud at a stag party. The younger was illegally drunk (underage). The NHL is not followed in the states because it has followed a business plan like that of the NFL and MLB when they really should’ve went grass roots as the game is rather big in the USA.

  • Roger Faso | August 22, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”135344″][quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    And I’m sure your wife has NEVER made a “frivilous” $20 purchase before. ;-)[/quote]

    No comment. She might be reading this.

    Hi Honey. How’s it going? I’ll finish the bathrooom floor by the end of this week.

  • Joe Drennan | August 22, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”135344″][quote comment=”135285″]Just out of curiosity …

    How many people here refrain from becoming a member because trying to explain the charge to the wife would make you look like a moron?

    It’s bad enough getting the “I can’t believe I married such a dork” look when we talk about our fantasy league teams.

    I can hear it now “You paid 20 bucks for a card with your name on it and you can’t go out and get a decent hair cut?”

    I wanna join. I really do.[/quote]

    And I’m sure your wife has NEVER made a “frivilous” $20 purchase before. ;-)[/quote]
    My wife makes frivolous purchases all the time and when I ask about them I’m told not to worry about it, that it’s none of my business, but if I buy lunch at work for myself I get the second degree and am asked to present a receipt. I’ve even been chastised for buying gas when my tank was on E and I only drive to and from work.

    Marriage is bliss. It better be for me to put up with such antics.

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”135336″][quote comment=”135326″]
    Same genius who moved the game to a Wednesday so he wouldn’t have to compete with any other sporting programs. [/quote]

    In case you’ve missed the last 10 years, the NHL cannot compete with the NFL or MLB in the US. It needs a chance to compete, and going head-to-head with those other leagues is suicide.[/quote]

    Thank you. Proved my point.

    ESPN is about ratings. Why should they overpay for a product that can’t deliver ratings?

  • possum | August 22, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”135354″][quote comment=”135348″]
    The thing is, like I was sort of saying, the NHL and hockey needs ESPN more than ESPN needs hockey. Further, with the Disney/ABC empire backing it, ESPN doesn’t need to turn a profit on their broadcasting and therefore doesn’t need to do all it can to gain ratings. As for hockey itself, as long as it still has owners of teams, say the Blackhawks, who won’t put games on TV because no one would pay to go to the game if its on tv for free, it won’t get any respect from any media outlets, local or national. Combine that with hockey being great in person, and hard to watch on tv, in my opinion, and we are where we are.[/quote]

    Aside from Wirtz being a total putz when it comes to his fanbase (show the road games, you idiot!), the NHL on NBC shows regional games for free. The problem is that the NHL is basically doing that for nothing. They need some sort of hockey show on ESPN that addresses the people who are fringe fans – one that explains the rules like icing and offsides while still being comprehensive enough to attract the die-hards with some quality programming.

    As for being hard to watch on TV, how is it hard to watch?[/quote]
    Its harder to watch on tv for people who aren’t intimately familiar with it. I’m from NC and there was no hockey when I was a kid. I started watching in 94 when the Rangers won the Cup. Once I started going to games more frequently I noticed a TON of stuff that you don’t see on TV. Passing lanes, offensive/defensive plays, etc. Maybe if Ron Jaworski would freeze frame a power play or outlet pass instead of the I formation people here would get it. Such a beautiful sport with such a grand history and it gets no respect. It sucks.

  • nastykjn | August 22, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    Leave the “C” to hockey. There’s historic precendent yes, but it just doesn’t “fit”.

    And Paul, tell the copycats to butt out.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”135357″]The NHL does have criminals and unruly (sp?) characters. Chris Pronger left Edmonton for Anaheim because he hooked (and knocked) upwith the local weather girl (fact). Plus we have Ed Belfour with his anctics. and recently a former sharks now leafs player is going to jail for drinking and driving and earliar this summer the Staal brothers were arrested in MN for being to loud at a stag party. The younger was illegally drunk (underage). The NHL is not followed in the states because it has followed a business plan like that of the NFL and MLB when they really should’ve went grass roots as the game is rather big in the USA.[/quote]

    1. Chris Pronger never knocked up a weathergirl. It was reported that he had, but she came out and cleared his name on television in Edmonton.

    2. Ed Belfour’s antics of getting drunk and disorderly are nothing compared to Rae Carruth’s (murder), Ray Lewis’ (cleared of murder), Michael Vick’s (too long to list), BJ Upton’s (too long to list), and Jose Offerman’s (two counts of assault) antics.

    3. Mark Bell knew he was going to jail last season. He has said repeatedly that having this hang over his head was a large reason for his poor play in San Jose.

    4. Anyone else get drunk at their stag here? Anyone? Didn’t think so. And Jordan Staal is legal in Canada because he’s 18. He made the mistake of not being 21 in Minnesota at his brother’s stag. Wow… what a criminal.

    If the buiness plan works in Canada, why doesn’t it work in the US? Oh, that’s right… because it has no exposure on the biggest sports network in the world.

  • Jeff B | August 22, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”135354″][quote comment=”135348″]
    The thing is, like I was sort of saying, the NHL and hockey needs ESPN more than ESPN needs hockey. Further, with the Disney/ABC empire backing it, ESPN doesn’t need to turn a profit on their broadcasting and therefore doesn’t need to do all it can to gain ratings. As for hockey itself, as long as it still has owners of teams, say the Blackhawks, who won’t put games on TV because no one would pay to go to the game if its on tv for free, it won’t get any respect from any media outlets, local or national. Combine that with hockey being great in person, and hard to watch on tv, in my opinion, and we are where we are.[/quote]

    Aside from Wirtz being a total putz when it comes to his fanbase (show the road games, you idiot!), the NHL on NBC shows regional games for free. The problem is that the NHL is basically doing that for nothing. They need some sort of hockey show on ESPN that addresses the people who are fringe fans – one that explains the rules like icing and offsides while still being comprehensive enough to attract the die-hards with some quality programming.

    As for being hard to watch on TV, how is it hard to watch?[/quote]

    It’s like we’re on ESPN, we’re arguing, but we mostly agree. I think ESPN, if they want to really be the Worldwide Leader in Sports, should do more with the NHL, but they don’t have to. My thing with hockey on tv is that you can’t really get the wide shot of the action without losing the puck. The beauty of hockey is all the little things everyone has to do to score a goal, but I kinda lose that on tv. Maybe it’s just me. But I’d love to see more hockey, and less.. lets say poker.

  • Chance | August 22, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”135365″]
    If the buiness plan works in Canada, why doesn’t it work in the US? Oh, that’s right… because it has no exposure on the biggest sports network in the world.[/quote]
    I agree, which is why the NHL needs a new Commish.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”135362″][quote comment=”135336″][quote comment=”135326″]
    Same genius who moved the game to a Wednesday so he wouldn’t have to compete with any other sporting programs. [/quote]

    In case you’ve missed the last 10 years, the NHL cannot compete with the NFL or MLB in the US. It needs a chance to compete, and going head-to-head with those other leagues is suicide.[/quote]

    Thank you. Proved my point.

    ESPN is about ratings. Why should they overpay for a product that can’t deliver ratings?[/quote]

    Because it is THE WORLDWIDE LEADER IN SPORTS.

    Or rather, the Worldwide Leader In $port$ Adverti$ing Dollar$. I gue$$ everything come$ down to the almighty dollar when it come$ to commercial adverti$ing that they put on during their broadca$t$.

  • Luke Larson | August 22, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”135365″][quote comment=”135357″]The NHL does have criminals and unruly (sp?) characters. Chris Pronger left Edmonton for Anaheim because he hooked (and knocked) upwith the local weather girl (fact). Plus we have Ed Belfour with his anctics. and recently a former sharks now leafs player is going to jail for drinking and driving and earliar this summer the Staal brothers were arrested in MN for being to loud at a stag party. The younger was illegally drunk (underage). The NHL is not followed in the states because it has followed a business plan like that of the NFL and MLB when they really should’ve went grass roots as the game is rather big in the USA.[/quote]

    1. Chris Pronger never knocked up a weathergirl. It was reported that he had, but she came out and cleared his name on television in Edmonton.

    2. Ed Belfour’s antics of getting drunk and disorderly are nothing compared to Rae Carruth’s (murder), Ray Lewis’ (cleared of murder), Michael Vick’s (too long to list), BJ Upton’s (too long to list), and Jose Offerman’s (two counts of assault) antics.

    3. Mark Bell knew he was going to jail last season. He has said repeatedly that having this hang over his head was a large reason for his poor play in San Jose.

    4. Anyone else get drunk at their stag here? Anyone? Didn’t think so. And Jordan Staal is legal in Canada because he’s 18. He made the mistake of not being 21 in Minnesota at his brother’s stag. Wow… what a criminal.

    If the buiness plan works in Canada, why doesn’t it work in the US? Oh, that’s right… because it has no exposure on the biggest sports network in the world.[/quote]

    the legal drinking age in canada is 19.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”135366″][quote comment=”135354″]
    As for being hard to watch on TV, how is it hard to watch?[/quote]

    It’s like we’re on ESPN, we’re arguing, but we mostly agree. I think ESPN, if they want to really be the Worldwide Leader in Sports, should do more with the NHL, but they don’t have to. My thing with hockey on tv is that you can’t really get the wide shot of the action without losing the puck. The beauty of hockey is all the little things everyone has to do to score a goal, but I kinda lose that on tv. Maybe it’s just me. But I’d love to see more hockey, and less.. lets say poker.[/quote]

    I’m not arguing… just asking, Jeff. :o)

    Besides, if this was ESPN and we were discussing hockey, the studio would be dark, and our pink slips would be sitting on the desk in front of us.

  • Jason | August 22, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    I think hockey needs more than just ESPN…look at the other sports leagues they have strong network tv ties unlike hockey. Did anyone really know that games were even being aired on NBC? The NHL needs to step up its NBC telecasts with more games which would help get more viewers. NASCAR has better network tv exposure than the NHL.

  • UW justin | August 22, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”135369″][quote comment=”135365″][quote comment=”135357″]The NHL does have criminals and unruly (sp?) characters. Chris Pronger left Edmonton for Anaheim because he hooked (and knocked) upwith the local weather girl (fact). Plus we have Ed Belfour with his anctics. and recently a former sharks now leafs player is going to jail for drinking and driving and earliar this summer the Staal brothers were arrested in MN for being to loud at a stag party. The younger was illegally drunk (underage). The NHL is not followed in the states because it has followed a business plan like that of the NFL and MLB when they really should’ve went grass roots as the game is rather big in the USA.[/quote]

    1. Chris Pronger never knocked up a weathergirl. It was reported that he had, but she came out and cleared his name on television in Edmonton.

    2. Ed Belfour’s antics of getting drunk and disorderly are nothing compared to Rae Carruth’s (murder), Ray Lewis’ (cleared of murder), Michael Vick’s (too long to list), BJ Upton’s (too long to list), and Jose Offerman’s (two counts of assault) antics.

    3. Mark Bell knew he was going to jail last season. He has said repeatedly that having this hang over his head was a large reason for his poor play in San Jose.

    4. Anyone else get drunk at their stag here? Anyone? Didn’t think so. And Jordan Staal is legal in Canada because he’s 18. He made the mistake of not being 21 in Minnesota at his brother’s stag. Wow… what a criminal.

    If the buiness plan works in Canada, why doesn’t it work in the US? Oh, that’s right… because it has no exposure on the biggest sports network in the world.[/quote]

    the legal drinking age in canada is 19.[/quote]

    Actually, it varies by province. Proof

  • DenverGregg | August 22, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]
    Great idea in general. A couple of the specific concepts are good too. The design on “Thorns” was outstanding.

  • John Baranowski | August 22, 2007 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”135368″][quote comment=”135362″][quote comment=”135336″][quote comment=”135326″]
    Same genius who moved the game to a Wednesday so he wouldn’t have to compete with any other sporting programs. [/quote]

    In case you’ve missed the last 10 years, the NHL cannot compete with the NFL or MLB in the US. It needs a chance to compete, and going head-to-head with those other leagues is suicide.[/quote]

    Thank you. Proved my point.

    ESPN is about ratings. Why should they overpay for a product that can’t deliver ratings?[/quote]

    Because it is THE WORLDWIDE LEADER IN SPORTS.

    Or rather, the Worldwide Leader In $port$ Adverti$ing Dollar$. I gue$$ everything come$ down to the almighty dollar when it come$ to commercial adverti$ing that they put on during their broadca$t$.[/quote]

    espen cares more about pimping the espn name than sports. they’re the MTV of sports. notice that MTV doesn’t show music. espn, with its spelling bees and scrabble tourneys doesn’t show sports either. but everyone still loves espn!

    i’m sorry i had to put it in a blog, but it’s the only way to get it to link right. sorry for the repost

    ESPN: IS HATE TOO STRONG A WORD?

  • todd krevanchi | August 22, 2007 at 3:45 pm |

    interesting argument on the subject of personalizing a jersey and whats acceptable or not.

    a few years back, i was all set to order a personal #4 authentic penn state jersey from the eastbay catalog. (similar to the personalization process seen here on their website)

    during the order, the representative asked what name i wanted on the back.

    i said none, penn state doesnt list names on the back of their jerseys.

    the rep said that i had to get a name, that it was mandatory.

    i asked how anything could be mandatory when its a personalized item for me.

    the rep stated that due to ncaa, eastbay, and manufacturer regulations, all team jerseys which were able to be personalized (like the ones listed at the bottom of the above link) must be issued with a name on the back, because if your were to get a blank one, you could get any number of derogatory remarks put on the back after purchase.

    after being dumfounded for about 10 seconds, i had asked why on the very next page of the catalog i had been looking at, a listing of about 50 different college jerseys were available for purchase each with no name on the back (similar to here on the website). couldnt i do what you just described with those jerseys?

    there was silence on the other line, a request to hold, and a return with, im sorry sir, we just cant.

    so i never got my jersey…

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”135369″]
    the legal drinking age in canada is 19.[/quote]

    In terms of locales of NHL teams, in BC and Ontario, it is 19. In Alberta and Quebec, it’s 18. I suppose that, being from Thunder Bay, Jordan did “break the law”.

    In no way was it right in terms of what he did, but he was at his brother’s stag. Had the cops not shown up, would anyone have known?

  • Jeff B | August 22, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”135375″][quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]
    Great idea in general. A couple of the specific concepts are good too. The design on “Thorns” was outstanding.[/quote]
    I voted for the Wet Sox just because when I first glanced at the post my thought was along those lines. Plus the logo mockup they made was pretty sweet.

  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”135372″]I think hockey needs more than just ESPN…look at the other sports leagues they have strong network tv ties unlike hockey. Did anyone really know that games were even being aired on NBC? The NHL needs to step up its NBC telecasts with more games which would help get more viewers. NASCAR has better network tv exposure than the NHL.[/quote]

    I love hockey. I have no problem watching on TV, because I know what I’m looking for. My wife…she doesn’t. She doesn’t see the umbrella on the power-play…or the passing lanes…or the icing. (And this is a woman with a fairly high sports IQ. She’ll call for the play-action at the right time, or scream “3 SECONDS!” while watching a basketball game. She know’s sports pretty well…she just can’t pick up some of hockey’s nuances.)

    But when I play NHL on my X-box, she sees it better…because I use the classic ICE camera angle. One way to make the NHL more friendly to the casual viewer is to use the same SKY CAM that the NFL uses…and keep the viewer just behind the action…with a medium, on-ice view. Let the people see plays develop. See what that does.

    I suggested this to Ted Leonsis (Caps owner) who answers fan e-mail. Basically got the “it’ll cost too much” answer. Yeah…might cost a little bit…but you could re-define the way people see the game, and catch more viewers…a “worth it” expense!

  • jacob clifton | August 22, 2007 at 3:54 pm |

    does anybody know if the rangers have worn their vests since saltalamaccia was traded to them?

  • todd krevanchi | August 22, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”135365″]BJ Upton’s (too long to list)[/quote]

    upton?
    too long to list?
    i think he had a dui charge, but did you mean, elijah dukes?

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”135380″]
    But when I play NHL on my X-box, she sees it better…because I use the classic ICE camera angle. One way to make the NHL more friendly to the casual viewer is to use the same SKY CAM that the NFL uses…and keep the viewer just behind the action…with a medium, on-ice view. Let the people see plays develop. See what that does.

    I suggested this to Ted Leonsis (Caps owner) who answers fan e-mail. Basically got the “it’ll cost too much” answer. Yeah…might cost a little bit…but you could re-define the way people see the game, and catch more viewers…a “worth it” expense![/quote]

    Excellent suggestion, Dan. If the NHL can dish out millions of dollars for high-def cameras so they can see every angle of the puck crossing the line, someone should see the light on this one.

    Unfortunately, the networks are the ones who introduce the technology for their coverages, and none of them think this through very far.

    Case in point: the FOX glow-puck.

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”135383″][quote comment=”135365″]BJ Upton’s (too long to list)[/quote]

    upton?
    too long to list?
    i think he had a dui charge, but did you mean, elijah dukes?[/quote]

    Yeah, Dukes. My apologies to the Upton family for confusing the two of them.

    Thanks, Todd.

  • Robert | August 22, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”135381″]does anybody know if the rangers have worn their vests since saltalamaccia was traded to them?[/quote]

    Yes.

  • Robert | August 22, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  • Dan | August 22, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”135386″][quote comment=”135380″]
    But when I play NHL on my X-box, she sees it better…because I use the classic ICE camera angle. One way to make the NHL more friendly to the casual viewer is to use the same SKY CAM that the NFL uses…and keep the viewer just behind the action…with a medium, on-ice view. Let the people see plays develop. See what that does.

    I suggested this to Ted Leonsis (Caps owner) who answers fan e-mail. Basically got the “it’ll cost too much” answer. Yeah…might cost a little bit…but you could re-define the way people see the game, and catch more viewers…a “worth it” expense![/quote]

    Excellent suggestion, Dan. If the NHL can dish out millions of dollars for high-def cameras so they can see every angle of the puck crossing the line, someone should see the light on this one.

    Unfortunately, the networks are the ones who introduce the technology for their coverages, and none of them think this through very far.

    Case in point: the FOX glow-puck.[/quote]

    The networks dictate for the national coverage…but for the local broadcasts, it generally rests with regional cable. Comcast Sports Net, NESN, Sunshine Network, etc…in a lot of those cases, the team partners with the cable net-let on production…so the NHL, via the teams, could make this a regular staple of coverage.

  • Jim | August 22, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”135386″][quote comment=”135380″]
    But when I play NHL on my X-box, she sees it better…because I use the classic ICE camera angle. One way to make the NHL more friendly to the casual viewer is to use the same SKY CAM that the NFL uses…and keep the viewer just behind the action…with a medium, on-ice view. Let the people see plays develop. See what that does.

    I suggested this to Ted Leonsis (Caps owner) who answers fan e-mail. Basically got the “it’ll cost too much” answer. Yeah…might cost a little bit…but you could re-define the way people see the game, and catch more viewers…a “worth it” expense![/quote]

    Excellent suggestion, Dan. If the NHL can dish out millions of dollars for high-def cameras so they can see every angle of the puck crossing the line, someone should see the light on this one.

    Unfortunately, the networks are the ones who introduce the technology for their coverages, and none of them think this through very far.

    Case in point: the FOX glow-puck.[/quote]
    Fox Glow Puck = Worst. Idea. Ever

  • Teebz | August 22, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”135390″]
    The networks dictate for the national coverage…but for the local broadcasts, it generally rests with regional cable. Comcast Sports Net, NESN, Sunshine Network, etc…in a lot of those cases, the team partners with the cable net-let on production…so the NHL, via the teams, could make this a regular staple of coverage.[/quote]

    I agree with that, and would think it would be a great idea to test in a market or two. I’m surprised that Ted, as techno-savvy as he is, didn’t give it more consideration.

  • Kevin | August 22, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    You may not like the LLWS but the kids from Georgia had some nice stir-up action going on in their regional games. Every single kid had them on and wore them correctly.

  • todd krevanchi | August 22, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”135387″][quote comment=”135383″][quote comment=”135365″]BJ Upton’s (too long to list)[/quote]

    upton?
    too long to list?
    i think he had a dui charge, but did you mean, elijah dukes?[/quote]

    Yeah, Dukes. My apologies to the Upton family for confusing the two of them.

    Thanks, Todd.[/quote]

    you could have also meant delmon young i guess too!

  • Kenny | August 22, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]

    I HATE wet socks

  • possum | August 22, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”135397″][quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]

    I HATE wet socks[/quote]
    Me too, that’s one of my top 3 pet peeves. But that logo for the Wet Sox is pretty cool.

  • keek80 | August 22, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”135192″]Regarding the LLWS. I like the games on TV, what I don’t like is the overhype of it all. Let the games and the kids have their charm. Let them wear their normal LL uniforms, not some lame generic uni.

    If the Mets win the NL east, do they ditch their uniforms for ones that read “NL East”? The wildcard winners “NL Wildcard”? Does the World Series pit two teams wearing “American League Champions” vs. “National League Champions”?[/quote]

    Don’t give MLB any ideas? Now that the idea is in the air, five or ten years from now we will see All Star type unis throughout the playoffs.

    I shudder to think about it! Ooh and i threw in my mouth allittle too.

  • keek80 | August 22, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    threw up in my mouth!!! can’t type.

  • UW justin | August 22, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”135398″][quote comment=”135397″][quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]

    I HATE wet socks[/quote]
    Me too, that’s one of my top 3 pet peeves. But that logo for the Wet Sox is pretty cool.[/quote]

    I voted for the Thorns, with Beavers second. Green Sox and Sockeyes aren’t great in my opinion, and Wet Sox is okay, but they can’t go wrong with the other two…

  • Kris McInnis | August 22, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”135162″]I’m not surprised you can’t get a Vick jersey; when the indictments came down a few weeks, ago, my wife (who works the order phones for a large Internet sports retailer) said the order went out – no taking orders for Vick merchandise; they wouldn’t sell it.

    (BTW, there was a story on a Georgia station that the Atlanta animal shelter is getting a ton of donations of Vick jerseys and T-shirts that they’re using for towels, cleaning rags and the like.)[/quote]

    Would one of those high tech, moisture-wicking football jerseys dry lil’ Snuffles faster than a towel? If it’s one of those replicas, I’m not buying into it.

  • GoTerriers | August 22, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”135400″][quote comment=”135192″]Regarding the LLWS. I like the games on TV, what I don’t like is the overhype of it all. Let the games and the kids have their charm. Let them wear their normal LL uniforms, not some lame generic uni.

    If the Mets win the NL east, do they ditch their uniforms for ones that read “NL East”? The wildcard winners “NL Wildcard”? Does the World Series pit two teams wearing “American League Champions” vs. “National League Champions”?[/quote]

    Don’t give MLB any ideas? Now that the idea is in the air, five or ten years from now we will see All Star type unis throughout the playoffs.

    I shudder to think about it! Ooh and i threw in my mouth allittle too.[/quote]

    I think I just had a post eaten . . . but this isn’t really that farfetched. Check out the 1906 New York Giants on “Dressed to the Nines” . . .

  • John | August 22, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    does anybody know if the rangers have worn their vests since saltalamaccia was traded to them?

    Yes.
    http://sports.yahoo....

    It just can’t be done. Look how bad the transition between L and T are, and then again between the C’s.

  • Stephen | August 22, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”135402″][quote comment=”135398″][quote comment=”135397″][quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]

    I HATE wet socks[/quote]
    Me too, that’s one of my top 3 pet peeves. But that logo for the Wet Sox is pretty cool.[/quote]

    I voted for the Thorns, with Beavers second. Green Sox and Sockeyes aren’t great in my opinion, and Wet Sox is okay, but they can’t go wrong with the other two…[/quote]

    Actually, I kinda liked the Green Sox logo they mocked up. It was simple, understated. Was my favorite of the mock-ups. I liked the Thorns logo, too.

  • Stephen | August 22, 2007 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”135410″]does anybody know if the rangers have worn their vests since saltalamaccia was traded to them?

    Yes.
    http://sports.yahoo....

    It just can’t be done. Look how bad the transition between L and T are, and then again between the C’s.[/quote]

    You know, I wonder if we will see the nickname on the jersey at some point. If Ichiro can have his first name on his jersey, why can’t Saltalamacchia have Salty on his vest?

    Just a thought.

    ~E~

  • Joe H | August 22, 2007 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”135377″]interesting argument on the subject of personalizing a jersey and whats acceptable or not.

    a few years back, i was all set to order a personal #4 authentic penn state jersey from the eastbay catalog. (similar to the personalization process seen here on their website)

    during the order, the representative asked what name i wanted on the back.

    i said none, penn state doesnt list names on the back of their jerseys.

    the rep said that i had to get a name, that it was mandatory.

    i asked how anything could be mandatory when its a personalized item for me.

    the rep stated that due to ncaa, eastbay, and manufacturer regulations, all team jerseys which were able to be personalized (like the ones listed at the bottom of the above link) must be issued with a name on the back, because if your were to get a blank one, you could get any number of derogatory remarks put on the back after purchase.

    after being dumfounded for about 10 seconds, i had asked why on the very next page of the catalog i had been looking at, a listing of about 50 different college jerseys were available for purchase each with no name on the back (similar to here on the website). couldnt i do what you just described with those jerseys?

    there was silence on the other line, a request to hold, and a return with, im sorry sir, we just cant.

    so i never got my jersey…[/quote]

    And that is why nobody should ever buy a personalized jersey online. It’s the biggest rip off in the world…find a reputable local shop and get them to help you out with it.

    Or take matters into your own hands!

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”135377″]interesting argument on the subject of personalizing a jersey and whats acceptable or not.

    a few years back, i was all set to order a personal #4 authentic penn state jersey from the eastbay catalog. (similar to the personalization process seen here on their website)

    during the order, the representative asked what name i wanted on the back.

    i said none, penn state doesnt list names on the back of their jerseys.

    the rep said that i had to get a name, that it was mandatory.

    i asked how anything could be mandatory when its a personalized item for me.

    the rep stated that due to ncaa, eastbay, and manufacturer regulations, all team jerseys which were able to be personalized (like the ones listed at the bottom of the above link) must be issued with a name on the back, because if your were to get a blank one, you could get any number of derogatory remarks put on the back after purchase.

    after being dumfounded for about 10 seconds, i had asked why on the very next page of the catalog i had been looking at, a listing of about 50 different college jerseys were available for purchase each with no name on the back (similar to here on the website). couldnt i do what you just described with those jerseys?

    there was silence on the other line, a request to hold, and a return with, im sorry sir, we just cant.

    so i never got my jersey…[/quote]

    Two nights ago I was eating at a restaurant that I’ll be reviewing. Since I was reviewing it, I ordered four or five entrees for the table (even though we were just a party of three). Every entree came with a choice of two sides, so we were entitled to 10 sides — way too many, since there were only six sides to choose from anyway. So I said, “Just bring us one each of the six sides you have on the menu, and we’ll do without the other four.”

    To which the waitress replied, “No, you HAVE to order all the sides. The computer won’t let me exit the ordering screen unless I punch in two sides for each entree.”

    I’m fairly certain that examples like this one and Todd’s jersey experience say something about us as a society. I’m also fairly certain that I’m going to have fun writing this particular restaurant review.

  • Shaftman | August 22, 2007 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”135415″][quote comment=”135377″]interesting argument on the subject of personalizing a jersey and whats acceptable or not.

    a few years back, i was all set to order a personal #4 authentic penn state jersey from the eastbay catalog. (similar to the personalization process seen here on their website)

    during the order, the representative asked what name i wanted on the back.

    i said none, penn state doesnt list names on the back of their jerseys.

    the rep said that i had to get a name, that it was mandatory.

    i asked how anything could be mandatory when its a personalized item for me.

    the rep stated that due to ncaa, eastbay, and manufacturer regulations, all team jerseys which were able to be personalized (like the ones listed at the bottom of the above link) must be issued with a name on the back, because if your were to get a blank one, you could get any number of derogatory remarks put on the back after purchase.

    after being dumfounded for about 10 seconds, i had asked why on the very next page of the catalog i had been looking at, a listing of about 50 different college jerseys were available for purchase each with no name on the back (similar to here on the website). couldnt i do what you just described with those jerseys?

    there was silence on the other line, a request to hold, and a return with, im sorry sir, we just cant.

    so i never got my jersey…[/quote]

    Two nights ago I was eating at a restaurant that I’ll be reviewing. Since I was reviewing it, I ordered four or five entrees for the table (even though we were just a party of three). Every entree came with a choice of two sides, so we were entitled to 10 sides — way too many, since there were only six sides to choose from anyway. So I said, “Just bring us one each of the six sides you have on the menu, and we’ll do without the other four.”

    To which the waitress replied, “No, you HAVE to order all the sides. The computer won’t let me exit the ordering screen unless I punch in two sides for each entree.”

    I’m fairly certain that examples like this one and Todd’s jersey experience say something about us as a society. I’m also fairly certain that I’m going to have fun writing this particular restaurant review.[/quote]

    Let us know where it’s posted to Paul, sounds like one I would like to read.

  • lockbull | August 22, 2007 at 5:35 pm |

    Just like the Diner scene from 5 Easy Pieces you tube link

  • Philly Bill | August 22, 2007 at 6:11 pm |

    The arching wouldn’t be so clunky if Salty didn’t opt for the squarest uniform number possible.

    [quote comment=”135349″]reebok is going all out for fans…
    sideline cap
    sneaker (called the recline)
    interesting match…[/quote]

    Good catch up there. We now have an ugly NFL-licensed shoe that matches the NFL’s ugly licensed caps. Ooof.

  • todd krevanchi | August 22, 2007 at 6:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”135420″]Just like the Diner scene from 5 Easy Pieces you tube link[/quote]

    dude! that was frickin’ hilarious!

    what i had left out of my story was the discussion on how personalization was to be put on the jersey.

    whether it was screen printed on or sewn on.

    while the rep had someone gathering the answer, she said what were you looking to have put on it.

    i said, no name or word, just a period (.) because it would be the easiest way to get the jersey within the regs, and depending on how it was affixed, it would have been the easiest to remove because its small and there wouldnt be too much damage to the shirt after removal.

    the rep then said sorry, no periods, slashes, dashes, etc, etc. i said, ok, how bout the letter “I” (i thought that has to be the next easiest, right?)

    wrong. all personalization text (or names) had to be at minimum, 2 letters, which was due to that being the shortest a last name could be.

    what a waste of 15 minutes that whole project was…

  • Dane | August 22, 2007 at 6:36 pm |

    And the new Senators uniforms are LIVE:

    http://senators.nhl....

  • Dane | August 22, 2007 at 6:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”135377″]interesting argument on the subject of personalizing a jersey and whats acceptable or not.

    a few years back, i was all set to order a personal #4 authentic penn state jersey from the eastbay catalog. (similar to the personalization process seen here on their website)

    during the order, the representative asked what name i wanted on the back.

    i said none, penn state doesnt list names on the back of their jerseys.

    the rep said that i had to get a name, that it was mandatory.

    i asked how anything could be mandatory when its a personalized item for me.

    the rep stated that due to ncaa, eastbay, and manufacturer regulations, all team jerseys which were able to be personalized (like the ones listed at the bottom of the above link) must be issued with a name on the back, because if your were to get a blank one, you could get any number of derogatory remarks put on the back after purchase.

    after being dumfounded for about 10 seconds, i had asked why on the very next page of the catalog i had been looking at, a listing of about 50 different college jerseys were available for purchase each with no name on the back (similar to here on the website). couldnt i do what you just described with those jerseys?

    there was silence on the other line, a request to hold, and a return with, im sorry sir, we just cant.

    so i never got my jersey…[/quote]

    I had the same problem with Eastbay. I didn’t want my name on the back of my Arizona jersey, but they wouldn’t leave it blank. And I could not put “Arizona”, “Wildcats” or even “Bear Down”, because those are all trademarked! (I should have went with ASUCKS, but cooler heads prevailed.)

  • Marc | August 22, 2007 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”135435″]And the new Senators uniforms are LIVE:

    http://senators.nhl....

    not for nothing… but those are some awesome jerseys… and i think the shoulder patch is a big O over a flag… awesome

  • Dane | August 22, 2007 at 6:46 pm |

    Looks like the Sens got rid of the big clunky numbers from the red sweaters and went with something in the Blue Jackets neighborhood.

    The NHL shop does have a page for these jerseys, but no image is displayed… yet.

  • Blake | August 22, 2007 at 6:51 pm |

    Rangers’ Jarrod Saltalamacchia just went to the plate with his left-handed batting helmet while batting right-handed. he took a pitch before first base coach Gary Pettis let him know about it and he switched to the correct helmet.

  • Justin | August 22, 2007 at 7:02 pm |
  • timmy b | August 22, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”135247″][quote comment=”135238″][quote comment=”135231″]I love the LLWS mostly because it reminds me of football camp (didn’t love camp, just being with the guys) – we would watch the LLWS and re-runs of American Gladiators during lunch[/quote]

    My favorite thing about the Little League WS…it’s the last big event that has to happen before it’s time for FOOTBALL season! You get past MLB all-star game, and football teams open camp. You get past LLWS, and college ball is usually starting a few days later![/quote]

    huh? what about the US Open?[/quote]

    that’s held in june! :)

  • TOG | August 22, 2007 at 7:09 pm |

    While doing the research on a “possible” rebranding (must always qualify with “possible”; and please don’t tell Reebok) project tied into America’s Team…I came across this rather incredible neckline on the original Dallas Cowboys jerseys… Weird and fun.

    http://scoop.diamond...

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 7:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”135446″]While doing the research on a “possible” rebranding (must always qualify with “possible”; and please don’t tell Reebok) project tied into America’s Team…I came across this rather incredible neckline on the original Dallas Cowboys jerseys… Weird and fun.

    http://scoop.diamond...

    Whoa — now THAT’S an amazing find! Is that an original game-worn jersey?

  • TOG | August 22, 2007 at 7:28 pm |

    Hi Paul-

    From a link back to the 2006 HUNT AUCTIONS regarding a Dandy Don Meredith jersey for sale. I can only assume it’s authentic.

    http://images.google...

    You might have a better read on this than me.

    I cannot make out the jersey collar label after grabbing and enlarging the .jpeg?

    Lowe and Campbell was a big Dallas uniform manufacturer so who knows?

  • Chad G | August 22, 2007 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”135445″][quote comment=”135247″][quote comment=”135238″][quote comment=”135231″]I love the LLWS mostly because it reminds me of football camp (didn’t love camp, just being with the guys) – we would watch the LLWS and re-runs of American Gladiators during lunch[/quote]

    My favorite thing about the Little League WS…it’s the last big event that has to happen before it’s time for FOOTBALL season! You get past MLB all-star game, and football teams open camp. You get past LLWS, and college ball is usually starting a few days later![/quote]

    huh? what about the US Open?[/quote]

    that’s held in june! :)[/quote]

    I believe they were refering to the Tennis version, not golf which starts next week

  • Matt Parker | August 22, 2007 at 7:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”135411″][quote comment=”135402″][quote comment=”135398″][quote comment=”135397″][quote comment=”135356″]The AAA Portland (OR) Beavers are allowing fans to decide on a new team name; the current name is one of five options, along with Green Sox, Wet Sox, Thorns, and Sockeyes. You can go to http://www.portlandb... to see design concepts for each team and to vote. Personally, I like the current name the best, but I think they might be trying to distance themselves from the OSU Beavers NCAA baseball team.[/quote]

    I HATE wet socks[/quote]
    Me too, that’s one of my top 3 pet peeves. But that logo for the Wet Sox is pretty cool.[/quote]

    I voted for the Thorns, with Beavers second. Green Sox and Sockeyes aren’t great in my opinion, and Wet Sox is okay, but they can’t go wrong with the other two…[/quote]

    Actually, I kinda liked the Green Sox logo they mocked up. It was simple, understated. Was my favorite of the mock-ups. I liked the Thorns logo, too.[/quote]

    In the Oregonian this morning it made clear that the fans were not deciding on the new name, just giving input. I suppose unless the response is overwhelming the owners will choose whichever name they like. I also read last week that they are changing it because of alleged confusion between the Portland Beavers and OSU Beavers.
    As a native Oregonian, I have to dislike the Wet Socks mockup because it looks a little too much like the state of California :-).
    In all seriousness, I like the Green Sox or Beavers.

  • TOG | August 22, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    Whoa — now THAT’S an amazing find! Is that an original game-worn jersey?

    http://www.dallascow...

    They wore this style jersey it appears from 1960 through 1964 although I cannot confirm what year the Cowpoke used this very unique collar?

  • charlie | August 22, 2007 at 7:37 pm |

    whats everyones thought on these?

    I like how theres not too much going on (like the preds/panthers/isles but i dont like the number font for some reason

  • odessasteps | August 22, 2007 at 7:37 pm |

    little help.

    anyone know the link to the slideshow from a little while ago with all the wacky minor league hockey sweaters?

    I’ve been looking for the link on here for like an hour now with no luck. :>

  • Matt B | August 22, 2007 at 7:42 pm |

    >i said none, penn state doesnt list names on the back of their jerseys. the rep said that i had to get a name, that it was mandatory.

    That’s funny because I saw a guy wearing a Penn State jersey a few weeks back with a blank nameplate. I thought “Why would PSU jerseys have nameplates if they never put names on them?” I don’t recall if it had a number on it, that is, if it was totally uncustomized.

    >I didn’t want my name on the back of my Arizona jersey, but they wouldn’t leave it blank. And I could not put “Arizona”, “Wildcats” or even “Bear Down”, because those are all trademarked!

    The name of a state is not in the public domain? What kind of world do we live in?

  • Howard | August 22, 2007 at 7:45 pm |

    Speaking of Los Dodgers (Los Angeles Los Dodgers), the Los on the Mets uniforms looks just like the Los of Los Angeles on the 1960s blue and white Lakers unis. Same type style, same angle.

  • TOG | August 22, 2007 at 7:46 pm |

    Paul-

    Affirmative on the Cowboys neckline. Click onto the Meredith link on the Cowboys Ring of Honor site:

    http://images.google...

    Sweet.

  • RefUni | August 22, 2007 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”135458″]whats everyones thought on these?

    I like how theres not too much going on (like the preds/panthers/isles but i dont like the number font for some reason[/quote]

    The could have been worse. Thankfully, there’s no stupid piping or bib-thing on these.

    Interesting note on the socks (I was at the unveiling tonight)..the sock stripes don’t circle around the the leg…they jag down at the back….an interesting look…

  • Aaron Scholder | August 22, 2007 at 7:48 pm |

    here’s a closeup photo of the Ottawa patch (the best part of the jersey) http://bp1.blogger.c...

  • Elwood | August 22, 2007 at 7:51 pm |

    Swing and a miss for the Senators. Not as awful as Nashville or Florida or Washington, but still horrible sleeves and side panels. Thumbs up for the logos (both primary and secondary) but everything else blows.

    Pretty poor that the only really awesome jerseys that have come out of this are the Bruins jerseys and the other Original Six teams that made basically no changes at all.

  • Aaron Scholder | August 22, 2007 at 7:56 pm |

    Here’s a look at the numbering on the Sens’ new uni’s: http://picasaweb.goo...

  • Ryan B | August 22, 2007 at 7:56 pm |

    Three quick hits:

    1. The Morse code on the Fenway Park scoreboard reads “TAY” and “JRY”, for owner Tom Yawkey and his wife Jean, who also ran the team during the 1980 and early 1990s.

    2. Re: Salty – At least he doesn’t wear 55.

    3. I am loving the retro patch on the Senators’ uniforms. First the B’s, now the Sens. I wonder who’s next to go retro…

  • TOG | August 22, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    Whats everyones thought on these?

    http://bp0.blogger.c...

    I like how theres not too much going on (like the preds/panthers/isles but i dont like the number font for some reason.

    I already miss the horizontal stripes on the “new” Reebok hockey jersey silhouette. Reebok, stop it!

    Why take off such a nice feature, and in its place add a boring arched bottom with no pattern that looks more like Tom Cruise in Risky Business?

    http://cdn.channel.a...

    Ughh. Reebok does NOT understand sportswear design and that’s their business. Brutal.

  • John Baranowski | August 22, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    i don’t get it. the nhl and rbk are trying for this ultra-modern superfuture jerseys, with vertical stripes and mega speeds…

    but this is the third team (that i can think of) to have a special throwback patch on the shoulders. first vancouver, then boston, now ottawa…why? seriously, throwing a small patch of historical significance onto an ungodly mess of fabric that can never be called a sweater is just a slap in the face of history

  • Josh | August 22, 2007 at 8:08 pm |

    I’ve been thinking about whether or not I should admit this…but is it a bad thing that I really want there to be a uniwatch conference in NYC soon because I’ve got a sweet jersey I really want to show to people who appreciate that sort of thing? Does this make me lame or exactly the sort of person uniwatch appeals to? Or Both?

  • Jeff E. | August 22, 2007 at 8:16 pm |

    In reference to the new Sens unis, I definitely like the horizontal stripes on the pants. IMHO, too few NHL teams have those anymore.

  • Jeff E. | August 22, 2007 at 8:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”135466″][quote comment=”135458″]whats everyones thought on these?

    I like how theres not too much going on (like the preds/panthers/isles but i dont like the number font for some reason[/quote]

    The could have been worse. Thankfully, there’s no stupid piping or bib-thing on these.

    Interesting note on the socks (I was at the unveiling tonight)..the sock stripes don’t circle around the the leg…they jag down at the back….an interesting look…[/quote]

    Your description of the socks sound like they’re based off the All-Star uni socks from last years game.

  • Tod H. | August 22, 2007 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”135160″][quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]
    I think the Twins should have a Canada night for Justin Morneau and make him feel better. Isn’t there a duth player somewher ein the league too? That mans we need a Holland night.

    I am all for teams recognizing local populaces. San Diego has military night for an obvious reason, but I’ve been through Brewerville and if they’re going to change the language on their jersey, it should not be to Spanish, but to German. I like how the White Sox have their half way to St. Patty’s Day jerssey as a way to recognize Chicago’s South Side Irish (something I grew up in).

    Every community has Spanish speaking folks, but that doesn’t mean the community is predominatly latino, therefore, in my opinion, meaning not every team needs to have their Spanish nights where they change the jersey.

    I can’t remember where it is, I think it’s here in Minnesota, but some MLB team throught the season recognizes many different nationalities having Italian night, Irish night, Hmong night and so on, but they don’t change their jerseys on those nights, they simply make reference to it on the jumbotron and there is a noticible influx in fans of that nationality that night.

    If teams are going to continue this Spanish thing, I demand Irish jerseys with team names in Galic darn it.[/quote]

    How bout a Joe Drennan where ever team spells their name wrong?

    I’d love to see the Dogers take on the Cbus.

  • Jeff E. | August 22, 2007 at 8:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”135480″]In reference to the new Sens unis, I definitely like the horizontal stripes on the pants. IMHO, too few NHL teams have those anymore.[/quote]

    Sorry, that should be VERTICAL stripes on the pants.

  • Tod H. | August 22, 2007 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”135490″][quote comment=”135160″][quote comment=”135145″]Why is MLB having a latino night anyways? I don’t hear of the Latino leagues having ‘American Night’ and have their jerseys in English to make the American players feel better.[/quote]
    I think the Twins should have a Canada night for Justin Morneau and make him feel better. Isn’t there a duth player somewher ein the league too? That mans we need a Holland night.

    I am all for teams recognizing local populaces. San Diego has military night for an obvious reason, but I’ve been through Brewerville and if they’re going to change the language on their jersey, it should not be to Spanish, but to German. I like how the White Sox have their half way to St. Patty’s Day jerssey as a way to recognize Chicago’s South Side Irish (something I grew up in).

    Every community has Spanish speaking folks, but that doesn’t mean the community is predominatly latino, therefore, in my opinion, meaning not every team needs to have their Spanish nights where they change the jersey.

    I can’t remember where it is, I think it’s here in Minnesota, but some MLB team throught the season recognizes many different nationalities having Italian night, Irish night, Hmong night and so on, but they don’t change their jerseys on those nights, they simply make reference to it on the jumbotron and there is a noticible influx in fans of that nationality that night.

    If teams are going to continue this Spanish thing, I demand Irish jerseys with team names in Galic darn it.[/quote]

    How bout a Joe Drennan where ever team spells their name wrong?

    I’d love to see the Dogers take on the Cbus.[/quote]

    In the irony of all ironies, that should say “Joe Drennan Ngiht”

  • slam | August 22, 2007 at 8:30 pm |

    The Ottawa jerseys an socks are simply the all-star jerseys recoloured. From the “leaks”, it looks like the penguins will be using the same template as well. So much for unique identities.

  • Kris McInnis | August 22, 2007 at 8:46 pm |

    The new Ottawa uniforms look like practice uniforms.

  • Mike | August 22, 2007 at 8:55 pm |

    I was at the Ottawa Senator new uni launch tonight and to tell you honestly, as a born and bred Canadian hockey fan, I really like these new unis, and the reaction from the 7,500 or so fans that were on hand was very positive.

    How ’bout that for a uni-launch crowd!

    The white version looks tremendous, I only wish they would wear them at home and not on the road.

  • Mike | August 22, 2007 at 9:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”135491″][quote comment=”135480″]In reference to the new Sens unis, I definitely like the horizontal stripes on the pants. IMHO, too few NHL teams have those anymore.[/quote]

    Sorry, that should be VERTICAL stripes on the pants.[/quote]

    Agreed, the red and white stripes on the pants are very strong. This is the best new design unveiled in the NHL to date.

    In person, these unis look outstanding.

  • Mikey | August 22, 2007 at 9:04 pm |

    Just wondering, are the New Jersey Devils changing their uniforms this season? It would make sense with the new reebok design, plus going into their new arena this season.

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 9:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”135459″]little help.

    anyone know the link to the slideshow from a little while ago with all the wacky minor league hockey sweaters?

    I’ve been looking for the link on here for like an hour now with no luck. :>[/quote]

    Here you go.

  • E Ro | August 22, 2007 at 9:12 pm |

    We’ve all noticed the rbk edge design is struggling with hockey’s signature look: the horizontal stripe..

    I’m assuming the OHL will do the edge the following season, which begs the question.. How many MIT engineers will it take to design the traditional Ottawa 67’s sweater?

  • Justin | August 22, 2007 at 9:28 pm |

    As far as the Portland Beavers go, I like the Sockeyes the best, with the Wet Sox coming in second. Their reasoning for Green Sox reminds me of a South Park episode where everyone drives hybrids and cause a “smug” cloud. It’s too elitist.

    [quote comment=”135461″]The name of a state is not in the public domain? What kind of world do we live in?[/quote]

    Well when you put it on a jersey of a team/school that owns the rights to their name, likeness, etc., it is no longer public domain. You can put Arizona on a shirt that you make (as long as it infringes on no ones copyrights), but they don’t have to allow you to put it on their product.

  • John Baranowski | August 22, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”135507″]Just wondering, are the New Jersey Devils changing their uniforms this season? It would make sense with the new reebok design, plus going into their new arena this season.[/quote]

    i heard that lou has refused to use the rbk edge jerseys.

    if so, i’ll have to become a devils fan (that really hursts to say), but i don’t know if they strongarmed him into accepting them or not, afterall, that was a while ago and i haven’t heard since.

    by the way, wasn’t the switch unanimously voted down by the owners last year? how do 16+ people change their mind in one season?

  • Mikey | August 22, 2007 at 9:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”135519″][quote comment=”135507″]Just wondering, are the New Jersey Devils changing their uniforms this season? It would make sense with the new reebok design, plus going into their new arena this season.[/quote]

    i heard that lou has refused to use the rbk edge jerseys.

    if so, i’ll have to become a devils fan (that really hursts to say), but i don’t know if they strongarmed him into accepting them or not, afterall, that was a while ago and i haven’t heard since.

    by the way, wasn’t the switch unanimously voted down by the owners last year? how do 16+ people change their mind in one season?[/quote]

    I hope they make some changes to their uni. the logo is classy but the rest of the sweater is ho-hum. Plus it will give me another resason to replace my Gomez jersey

  • =bg= | August 22, 2007 at 10:06 pm |

    Not uni-related, although a few Orioles pitchers might burn theirs after today-

    Rangers 30, Orioles 3.

    You read that score right.

  • Pete | August 22, 2007 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”135457″]Whoa — now THAT’S an amazing find! Is that an original game-worn jersey?

    http://www.dallascow...

    They wore this style jersey it appears from 1960 through 1964 although I cannot confirm what year the Cowpoke used this very unique collar?[/quote]

    Actually, the Cowboys wore the shoulder-star jerseys from 1960 through 1963. They went to the original version of their current look in 1964, but with three stripes. 1966 saw the two-stripe look they have today, although the silver-green pants they wear now look nowhere near as good as the old metallic light blues from the late 60s/early 70s. I hope they remedy this by the time the new stadium opens in 2009.

  • E Ro | August 22, 2007 at 10:17 pm |

    I hope they make some changes to their uni.

    bring back the christmas colors!

  • odessasteps | August 22, 2007 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”135509″][quote comment=”135459″]little help.

    anyone know the link to the slideshow from a little while ago with all the wacky minor league hockey sweaters?

    I’ve been looking for the link on here for like an hour now with no luck. :>[/quote]

    Here you go.[/quote]

    thanks, boss man.

  • Jeff I | August 22, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    I like the Senators shoulder patch, but man, those jerseys are brutal. Those look like the tightest of the new jerseys and the blank hemline is not helping matters.

  • Jeff B | August 22, 2007 at 11:28 pm |

    Cubs announcer Bob Brenley suggested that shoe cutting and alterations happen in baseball as well. After Benjie Molina was hit in the toe with a foul ball, and Brenley being a former catcher, the subject came up about how painful that is, and that with the swelling of the big toe, you sometimes need to cut a hole in the toe of the shoe to give extra room to the swollen toe.

  • Paul Lukas | August 22, 2007 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”135531″][quote comment=”135457″]Whoa — now THAT’S an amazing find! Is that an original game-worn jersey?

    http://www.dallascow...

    They wore this style jersey it appears from 1960 through 1964 although I cannot confirm what year the Cowpoke used this very unique collar?[/quote]

    Actually, the Cowboys wore the shoulder-star jerseys from 1960 through 1963. They went to the original version of their current look in 1964, but with three stripes. 1966 saw the two-stripe look they have today…[/quote]

    Pete, I was just putting the finishing touches on tomorrow’s entry, and the last thing I wrote was almost word-for-word what you wrote in your comment. When you read tomorrow’s entry, you’ll think I was ripping you off, but honest, it was just two great minds thinking alike and all that…

  • chance | August 23, 2007 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”135216″][quote comment=”135155″][quote comment=”135128″]Los Mets = Los Stupidos!

    Ok, So the Brewers’ Cerverceros is sctually cool, and the Giants’ Gigantes is ok, but “Los Mets” is just lame![/quote]

    Looks like you just stole my post from yesterday…same exact pics. But it’s all good.[/quote]
    So… I guess if the St. Louis Cardinals joined this trend, they’d trot out jerseys with their 1967-68 nickname, “El Birdos”? (Yes, I know it should be “Los Birdos”; nobody pointed out that goof in 1967!) Since the Mets keep insisting that their name isn’t a contraction of “Metropolitan Baseball Club of New York”, I guess “Met” is the same in English, Spanish, German, and/or Mandarin Chinese!
    [/quote]
    The Mets have never insisted any such thing. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    The Mets have made it clear that the team name is not, and has never been, the “Metropolitans.” Big difference.

  • Morris Levin | August 23, 2007 at 12:09 am |

    This is in response to #13, Josh –

    I run VictoryPennants.com. We use original logos for all of our pennants. We do not fabricate any of them or make them up. Our goal is to match the historical logo with the precise year of the championship. I know we have a couple errors that we will correct, for example, the 1945 Army. The logo is real and was used – and I am told it was not used in ’45. The Michigan Wolverine logo is real and I have seen them on original period pennants.

    If you have any ideas for new pennants – or have a correction, I would love to hear about it!

    Morris
    mlevin@victorypennants.com

  • DW in Tampa Bay | August 23, 2007 at 12:11 am |

    [quote comment=”135200″]Speaking of things ESPN shows, but nobody watches – on Sunday, they had on sport stacking. Its bascially kids, from about 7-15 y/o stacking and unstacking plastic cups. Whats next? Competitive map folding?[/quote]

    I’d rather watch that than another World Series of Poker that is held every week it seems like.

  • Elwood | August 23, 2007 at 12:54 am |

    [quote comment=”135519″]
    by the way, wasn’t the switch unanimously voted down by the owners last year? how do 16+ people change their mind in one season?[/quote]

    Because, if you can imagine, these jerseys used to be WORSE. For starters, the original plan was to have all jerseys tucked into the pants.

  • Nathan R. | August 23, 2007 at 1:10 am |

    I was browsing the net tonight and came across this site: here. It highlights the throwback jerseys worn by the NFL during it’s 75th anniversary.

    Note that the Old Chargers unis (Circa 1961) look very similar to the new style they are using this season.

  • John Baranowski | August 23, 2007 at 1:20 am |

    http://i169.photobuc... this seems to be an exclusive pic from someone who was there, they’re using the crappy all-star game socks. these jerseys have been moved down a peg in my book.

  • John Baranowski | August 23, 2007 at 1:28 am |

    [quote comment=”135583″][quote comment=”135519″]
    by the way, wasn’t the switch unanimously voted down by the owners last year? how do 16+ people change their mind in one season?[/quote]

    Because, if you can imagine, these jerseys used to be WORSE. For starters, the original plan was to have all jerseys tucked into the pants.[/quote]

    and numbers on the pants, and one of 10 templates, none of which had horizontal stripes…still, 16 people said “oh, this is a good idea now”? i seriously want to know who was coercing who at those meetings…and can it work at the UN?

  • S. Menecola | August 23, 2007 at 5:14 am |

    Just a heads up on RBK and perhaps why they seem to have their way with re-design in the NHL and NFL. Apparently when REEBOK courted these leagues they were enduring some pretty desperate times and re-invented themselves. They offered the leagues (NBA too) a 5% ownership in the company with their offer to outfit the leagues over a the long term. Both Leagues understand the role of profits I suppose and understand that fans will be fans no matter how ugly change may get. People don’t like wearing unnofficial stuff so many will go out and purchase new jerseys and apparel no matter what. It’s part of the fan experience and they will profit from it. My point is both leagues are happy to let REEBOK tweak their shit into the ground because they’ll profit form it now and later when change is once again needed. On the hockey side of things the bad style ties in with the bad teeth and hair anyways.

  • Stuby | August 23, 2007 at 8:10 am |

    [quote comment=”135588″]I was browsing the net tonight and came across this site: here. It highlights the throwback jerseys worn by the NFL during it’s 75th anniversary.

    Note that the Old Chargers unis (Circa 1961) look very similar to the new style they are using this season.[/quote]
    That site has been linked over there on the right side of this page for as long as I can remember. There really are some cool things over there

  • Jeff | August 23, 2007 at 8:25 am |

    Lots a letters going on in this pic:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Saltalamacchia and Catalanotto. Field day for the uni manufacturer’s seamstress. :)

  • Rick Vaughan | August 23, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    I’m positive I could create all three of ISU’s new helmet designs in photoshop in under 2 minutes.

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 23, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”135173″][quote comment=”135140″]ESPN wouldn’t broadcast Little League World Series games if people weren’t watching them.

    Is there evidence all the media attention actually harms the kids? What, do they all grow up to become serial killers or something? Geez, guys, lighten up.[/quote]
    I disagree, ESPN pretty much broadcasts anything they want, regardless if people watch it or not. Actually, I believe they try to force-feed sports to us that normally people don’t care about (i.e. Arena Football, Darts, Bowling, and the LLWS).

    As far as the kids, yes, they all grow up to be serial killers, its a fact![/quote]

    Mike, I (and plenty others) happen to love bowling and watch it regularly on ESPN. Just because YOU don’t happen to enjoy it doesn’t mean there’s not a great many that do.

    By the way, ESPN stands for ENTERTAINMENT & Sports Programming Network.

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 23, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”135323″][quote comment=”135313″]Come on, ESPN televises poker for crying out loud. Since when is poker a sport? I like ESPN, but the television coverage gets out of control sometimes.
    ~E~[/quote]

    and eating contests and spelling bees and darts and arm wrestling on ESPN Classic (i saw it, i emailed espn i was so ticked) and i flipped out when i saw scrabble on espn the other day. for a great writing on this (i wish i wrote it) that i’d hate to repost here, take a look you won’t be disappointed![/quote]

    Again, there’s an entertainment factor to ESPN that’s been there since day one.

  • Marc D | August 27, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”135135″]and what is sad, is that these “teams” are not true “teams” from the various Little Leagues across the world, they are all-star teams, kids picked from all over the league.[/quote]

    It’s always been this way. The teams that go to the LLWS are always the district all-star team from that little league. they’re not a travel team, but they are the best players that year in LL in that town. I played on one of those teams and almost went to the LLWS.