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Chasing Dreams in Magazines

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By Phil Hecken, turning two with Larry Wiederecht

I’m rejoined today by Larry Wiederecht (“Lwiedy”), my double play partner, as today we look the pages of another All Star Game program, this time from the Midsummer Classic in Milwaukee, 1975. Although this would be the first time the Milwaukee Brewers would play host to the game, it was not the first All Star Game to be held at County Stadium, Wisconsin. That honor belonged to the 1955 Milwaukee Braves. The ’75 game was the 46th playing of the classic, and the game was played on July 15th, 1975. Additional information on the actual game can be found here. I love this really neat patch from the game, featuring the words “All Star Game 1975” in blue and gold on one circle, and the swinging “barrelman” on the other. (Although, Larry notes that the patch not worn on the uniforms, but rather was based on the press pin from that year [third row, fifth from the left].)

So, without any additional ado, let’s get into Larry’s ASG pics:

Rather boring team photos (by All-Star standards). The American League and the National League. The only real uni anomaly that I know of (Vida’s all gold get-up) didn’t even show up. These came from the ’75 Series program.

Less than dramatic cover artwork by a fellow named Robert Deuel

Obligatory welcome letter from the Commissioner, Owner, used car salesman.

Nice piece on the history of Milwaukee baseball

Like in the 1972 program, Medalist/Sand Knit shows their wears

No way I have Suzy Q’s in center (nice home plate, too)

If you are going to use little action shots of Garvey & Cey, at least put them by their own head shots. Sutton, Seaver & Gossage were “misplaced” as well

The Hammer takes in a little USC-UCLA

One of the most recognizable ad campaigns of all time. Always wondered if you couldn’t just put a bullet through the shank, though.

Hey Johnny O, can you still get a Graf/s?

Also a staple of AS & Series programs are the ring ads

With a lot of help from ChampionshipRings.net and a little deductive reasoning, I came up with the following list (top to bottom then left to right)

1971 Dallas Cowboys
1971 Utah Stars
1971 or 1972 Boston University Hockey
1966 SMU
1967 Philadelphia 76ers
1958 Baltimore Colts
1959 Oklahoma Sooners Orange Bowl
1970 USC Rose Bowl
1967 Southern Illinois NIT
1964 St. Louis Cardinals
1969 Minnesota Vikings NFL Champions
1965 Los Angeles Dodgers
1968 New York Jets
1953 New York Yankees
1972 Boston Bruins (World, not Stanley Cup Champs?)
1970 or 1971 Nebraska Cornhuskers Football
1967 St. Louis Cardinals
19?? UCLA Basketball (Pick a year)
1966 Baltimore Orioles

Finally, a nice little pullout program poster.

And that’s not all, Larry also found us some pretty nice pics from that game:

Pretty good staff leading the NL. Over 50 years of managerial experience, seven world championships and nearly a dozen pennants.

Yeah they shook hands, but they never looked at each other.

Speaking of Thurm, missing was his familiar gear. He must have borrowed from the Brewers.

Don’t know how often this combo was worn, but it wasn’t often.

Bernie Brewer’s sister, wife? She’s Bonnie Brewer.

Don’t really know what Billy’s black armband is for.

Hank’s 24th and final All-Star Game.

Yaz pinch hits with a cap insert. He even had to explain to home plate ump Bill Haller what he was wearing.

Gary Carter corrals the final out in left wearing his batting/catching helmet.

Thanks again, Larry. Those are awesome. See ya again soon when we look at our next All Star Game Program!

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UW 060709Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: This one is difficult, but not impossible. The location should be easy, and there are other clues right there on the scoreboard. You shouldn’t need any hints with this one. Date, location and final score are required. Based on the comments yesterday, if you do get the answer, shoot me an email but post something like “I GOT IT” in the comments. This way, people can take guesses throughout the day. I’ll post the winner’s name and some of the good “deductive” guesses at the end of the day. Ok? Ok! Good luck. Guess The Game From The Scoreboard

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reds uni track Another Uniform Tracker has answered the call. Matthew Bohman “Namhob” is a Cincinnati Reds tracker. Here’s his update:

Phil,

The Cincinnati Reds have had their fair share of uni shenanigans in the past, but nowadays they have kept it pretty standard with a traditional home, away, and softball alternate home uniform. Thankfully, baseball’s oldest franchise has avoided the dreaded away alternate and in doing so has kept many a Laundromat in business on the road. At home, there seems to be 2 rules the Reds follow: 1) the traditional “Sunday Red” is alive and well in Cincinnati and 2) for every home series, the red alternates have to make at least one appearance. The only deviation from this rule so far has been a Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday series against the Astros where the Reds wore home white every game (which didn’t stop the Astros from wearing their red alternates for EVERY GAME of that series). Actually, looking through the Astros games for the first 2 months I have counted 24 away games and they have only worn their away grays twice! And one doesn’t even count as an away gray since they were wearing the Stars & Stripes hat on Memorial Day! Hint to the Astros, you are undefeated in your away grays; try them on sometime!

Sorry, back to the Reds…Being an excel spreadsheet junkie, I am tracking the Reds 3 different ways*: overall record by uniform, game-by-game, and per pitcher. For being an average ballclub, the Reds are .500 in both the home whites and the red alts. They’ve had some success on the road this year and it shows with a 14-11 record. As it stands, they are still undefeated in wearing anything apart from the home whites, road grays and red alts (1-0 is undefeated, am I right?). That will probably change as they are expected to get fancy for July 4th and September 11th as well as the Civil Rights game against the ChiSox on June 20th (they’ll be wearing throwbacks of the 1964 Cincinnati Reds). In the end, I predict they will finish 2-2 in the “special attire” category to remain at .500.

* As of June 1, 2009

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ny americansIn case you missed yesterday’s post…a NOB research project, by UW Historian/Research Architect, Timmy Brulia:

Hello All,

This is Timmy B, the guy who created the “NFL White At Home” database that chronicles what teams have worn their white jerseys at home in the NFL since 1957, and the “Pro Football Uniforms 1933-1958” database, which describes the uniform designs for each team in the NFL and AAFC from that era.

My next attempt at a database is for all the teams that have worn the player’s name on the backs (NOB’s) of their jerseys in the “Big 4” sports of football, baseball, basketball and hockey. Specifically, when they started doing it.

Up until 1960, there was only one documented example of a team with the NOB, the defunct New York Americans of the NHL in the 1926-27 season. Then in 1960, the Chicago White Sox began wearing NOB’s on the backs of their away blouses. Later that year, the upstart American Football League featured several teams that wore them at the start of the season. From all indications, by season’s end ALL teams wore NOB’s in the AFL. The Raiders went so far as to feature the players’ FIRST name as well as their last.

When the AFL merged with the NOB-less NFL in 1970, the NFL absorbed the idea and adopted the look for all 26 teams.

The NBA, already with several teams sporting NOB’s, took a shining to the idea and also made NOB’s mandatory starting with the 1971-72 season.

Not wanting to be left behind, the NHL adopted a league wide NOB policy in 1977-78 (with ONE notable exception which we’ll get to later).

Finally the National League, in 1979, mandated that all 12 teams at least have NOB’s on the teams’ road jerseys. To my knowledge, the American League never has adopted an NOB mandate. However, the NL’s rule seems to have been “waived” or not enforced as the Ddogers went NOB-less for several years earlier in the decade.

The purpose of the database is to be an easy to follow guide as to WHEN teams started to wear NOB’s, either before a league-wide edict, or especially in MLB, when there were gaps from exactly when they first started wearing NOB’s, then dropped them, and then added them. So if you’re wondering when – say the Braves – started wearing NOB’s (1963), when did they stop, and when did they resume the NOB’s. So, as an example, the Braves entry might look like this (years may NOT be correct):

Braves: 1963-1964, 1976-current.

or for hockey:
Rangers: 1970-71 thru 1976-77 (home only), 1977-78 to date.

What I am asking of you, the Uniwatch faithful, is for your help. I think I can cover the NFL and the NHL pretty well. However, for the NBA and especially MLB, if you can send me any photo samples with some verification as to when certain teams started and/or stopped wearing NOB’s it would be hugely appreciated and I will make sure to give you props in the database with your particular contribution(s).

To close, as promised, the NHL exception for 1977-78. In 1977, John Zeigler took over as NHL President, succeeding the long tenure (30 years) of Clarence Campbell. One of Zeigler’s first actions was to mandate that all NHL teams get with the program and affix NOB’s on the team sweaters, both home and away. 17 of the 18 teams complied, with no problem. One did not. The Maple Leafs owner, the crusty Harold Ballard, refused to follow the edict. They went half a season before Zeigler finally said to Ballard, put ’em on or be fined. Finally, Ballard complied, by having blue NOB’s on the away blue sweaters! Zeigler, said, “Not funny” and then was ready to clamp Harold with some fines. At last, some time in late February, Ballard and the Leafs followed orders, but only for the blue jersey, with white letters. However, Ballard said to Zeigler, I will not do it for the home whites as he had an iron-clad clause with the Maple Leaf Gardens program printers NOT to adorn NOB’s on the home jerseys. Zeigler relented but ordered Ballard to comply fully starting with the 1978-79 season, which he did.

Thanks and again any and all help will be appreciated!!

You can reach Timmy by emailing him with any info.

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rpm stirrupLast FINAL Call For the RPM Stirrup Club: Got a note from Robert Marshall, the bobble boy. “phil, could you give a last call on the oriole stirrup, and make mention this weekend that i sent out this email to people that contacted me, and that if they didn’t get this email, that they should get in touch with me again? i think everyone is on here, but maybe i missed someone. i will be placing the order tuesday, so get in before then, i will not order extras. and they take tck 2 weeks to manufacture, so you should have them in less then 3 weeks from tuesday.” So, here’s that last call:

1) Cost $11 per stirrup. We will go through paypal, and use his rpmarshall art email address. Mr. Marshall does not intend to profit from this, but he doesn’t want to lose either. One of you sent Robert a payment for $10 (that is fine, don’t send him an extra 1$, you can work it out on the next pair), and those paypal bastards took $.60. but the breakdown is this: $7 for stirrup/$1 shipping from tck/$.50ish per envelope/ $.50ish paypal/$1.75 shipping to you (he just shipped a pair 1st class)=$10.75, which leaves $.25 for Robert’s gas/time/cover overruns, and he thinks that is more then fair. So, if you want 3 pairs, Robert will know by the $33 total. Make sure you give him a shipping address through paypal if you can. Please make this as easy on him as possible.

2) No, you are not obligated to buy every stirrup. They are calling it a “club”, and it would be nice if people were “generally” in, but nobody is in a must buy position. Robert will continue to add to this email list, and you will get emails every time they go for another ‘rup. If you want off the list, tell him, and he will take you off. Sure, you may occasionally get duplicate info, but it is easier for him to just have a general email to all involved, and not respond individually, he does not want to turn this into a job, he just want to get us all the stirrups we want :)

3) Clearly the next three ‘rups are the red sox, cardinals, and a’s, a popular, yet distant third choice. Robert provided this graphic with some other possible upcoming rups, most were suggested, others he just added to round out the image. He says we knock out the mlb’s first, then go from there, but we might mix in a crazy one here or there. Also the opening size will vary, this first pair is a 5″, and Robert has a feeling people will be happy with this size, it shows sani without getting crazy (staying classy), but we will more or less match the opening to the era. Or if 24 people get in, he can order twelve (min) 5″ and twelve 7″, he will make as many people happy as he can.

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jb1From The Jeremy Brahm files: Bunch of stuff from UW’s Pacific Rim Correspondent today: Here is a picture of the new Speedo LZR Hybrid swimsuit. This one is being made in Japan … Who says golf is dull? Japanese LPGA Golfer Sakura Yokomine is bright in the rain. While Megumi Kido, well it says on her shirt. I Love Golf. Or Chie Arimura hearts golf … Here is a pdf of the FINA swim cap guidelines for the 2009 World Championships. And the Rules in press release … Yowsa! Check out this photo of the KBO (Korean Baseball Organization) Lotte Giants … And finally — Remember the Expos helmets with the odd panels? How about this from the defunct KBO Sammi Superstars in 1984. Awesome Jeremy.

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candle A brief candle; both ends burning…An endless mile; a bus wheel turning…A friend to share the lonesome times…A handshake and a sip of wine

So say it loud and let it ring…We are all a part of everything…The future, present and the past…Fly on proud bird — You’re free at last.

The above is for a friend. Everyone have a good Sunday. Peace.

 

78 comments to Chasing Dreams in Magazines

  • Baseball Almanac | June 7, 2009 at 8:15 am |

    new york yankees…

    Baseball Almanac…

  • AnalRetentiveBastage | June 7, 2009 at 8:18 am |

    I got the scoreboard answer. Hooray.

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 8:20 am |

    [quote comment=”333480″]I got the scoreboard answer. Hooray.[/quote]
    Oops. That was me. Forgot to change the posting name from last night.

  • Richard Stover | June 7, 2009 at 8:56 am |

    Found the answer.

  • Slim and Slam | June 7, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    I, too, got the scoreboard answer.

  • DenverGregg | June 7, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    I got the scoreboard answer. Love the GTO ad.

  • Jeff | June 7, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    Thanks for the look back at the ’75 All-Star Game. I was there, sitting in the right-field bleachers, but I really don’t remember much of it. I was 18. Guess I was just wowed by the spectacle of it all.

  • Mike Edgerly | June 7, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    That scoreboard game reminds me of what happened to the Rays in Cleveland on Memorial day.

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.

    And is the coach in the green jersey wearing white sanitary socks?

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”333487″]By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.

    And is the coach in the green jersey wearing white sanitary socks?[/quote]
    I guess I could have looked at the caption to get his name before I posted that. It’s Wes Stock, the BP pitcher, with the potential white sanis.

  • JoshC | June 7, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    I GOT IT.

  • Dustin | June 7, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    You can still get Graf/s, but it might be under a different name (the 50/50 in that picture resembles what I can get today). It is harder to find today, but still around.

  • LarenR | June 7, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”333487″]By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.

    And is the coach in the green jersey wearing white sanitary socks?[/quote]
    They look gold to me.

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”333491″][quote comment=”333487″]By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.

    And is the coach in the green jersey wearing white sanitary socks?[/quote]
    They look gold to me.[/quote]
    Yeah. I just looked at the picture on a different monitor. Definitely not white.

  • Lou | June 7, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    I got it too

  • JimV19 | June 7, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    From yesterday’s comments:

    My guilty little uni-secret? I like this:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Alex | June 7, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”333494″]From yesterday’s comments:

    My guilty little uni-secret? I like this:
    http://farm4.static....

    Who doesn’t?

    Although, I prefer the Jaguars cheerleaders jerseys before they got f—ed up

  • JimV19 | June 7, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    I think Suzy Qs were in center for the sake of symmetry – they had two Wonder products in left and right field (love the name Wonder Buns – sounds like a workout video).

    I liked the Brewer’s Barrelman logo. It would have been a good sleeve patch with their 80s jerseys.

  • =bg= | June 7, 2009 at 12:04 pm |
  • Hibbs | June 7, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    Are there any minor league baseball teams called the Robins?
    I know Brooklyn had an NL team by that name back in the day.
    I get a lot of them in my yard, and I always think that they would be a suitable bird for baseball.

  • buckeyebrain | June 7, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    I got it, too.

  • Mike Engle | June 7, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”333491″][quote comment=”333487″]By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.

    And is the coach in the green jersey wearing white sanitary socks?[/quote]
    They look gold to me.[/quote]
    I noticed the one random batting helmet on a Brewer. First row, to my right as a viewer, if I recall correctly.
    And by the way, I got the scoreboard. I don’t care that I’m not the first, but I did it all by myself (with a tad bit of Baseball Almanac help. That is an AMAZING website.)

  • Kate | June 7, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    I got it.

  • caknuck | June 7, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    I got it.

  • Rich C. | June 7, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”333499″]Are there any minor league baseball teams called the Robins?
    I know Brooklyn had an NL team by that name back in the day.
    I get a lot of them in my yard, and I always think that they would be a suitable bird for baseball.[/quote]

    Semi-pro

    http://robinsbasebal...

  • Beardface | June 7, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    Man… Balfour has not changed their style one bit. Virginia Tech still uses them for their class rings (I believe the athletic dept uses Jostens for their rings) and they have the exact same style nowadays as back then.

    Funny how companies that get it right never change. *coughNIKEcough*

  • Brandon | June 7, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    I think championship rings would make a good uniwatch entry someday. Yeah they aren’t exactly uniforms, but like uniforms the styles and designs of championship rings have changed a lot over the years.

  • Beardface | June 7, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”333497″]Swiss. Style.
    http://sports.yahoo....
    That would be, for those keeping track,

    8 Nike logos (those are only the ones visible… could be as high as 13 if you include whats not seen)

    3 Roger Federer logos

    and 2 Wilson logos

    For an astonishing 13 visible logos in one picture…

  • Tony Miller | June 7, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    Got it. Have for about half an hour.

  • UmpLou | June 7, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    Billy is wearing the black armband in memory of Casey Stengel, who died the previous October. He will continue to wear the armband – after he is fired by the Rangers/hired by the Yankees about a month after this – until the end of the 1976 season.

    The AL team pic should be captioned “The Future New York Yankees” – there are four Yankees on that squad, but, including Martin, there no less than four more who WILL be Yanks in the next three years : Martin, Jackson, Dent and Gossage. Subtract Bobby Bonds, who is about to be traded, that makes seven current and future Yankees…

  • JimV19 | June 7, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”333499″]Are there any minor league baseball teams called the Robins?
    I know Brooklyn had an NL team by that name back in the day.
    I get a lot of them in my yard, and I always think that they would be a suitable bird for baseball.[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing, even though I personally don’t like them (crappin’ all over everything and trying to take over the outside of our house). Since the robins come back in the spring along with baseball, it would be fitting.

  • JimV19 | June 7, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”333504″][quote comment=”333499″]Are there any minor league baseball teams called the Robins?
    I know Brooklyn had an NL team by that name back in the day.
    I get a lot of them in my yard, and I always think that they would be a suitable bird for baseball.[/quote]

    Semi-pro

    http://robinsbasebal...

    I like the script on their jerseys.

  • Josie | June 7, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    Got it!

  • Rick | June 7, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    In regard to the Master Lock ad, I remember a comdey routine that went “sure that Master lock can take a bullet and not open, but he never met a hasp that could take a .45 slug”.

  • Jon | June 7, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    NOOO
    The invasion has begun….
    the only question is what league is next…

    http://www.wnba.com/...

  • Hibbs | June 7, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”333511″][quote comment=”333504″][quote comment=”333499″]Are there any minor league baseball teams called the Robins?
    I know Brooklyn had an NL team by that name back in the day.
    I get a lot of them in my yard, and I always think that they would be a suitable bird for baseball.[/quote]

    Semi-pro

    http://robinsbasebal...

    I like the script on their jerseys.[/quote]

    That robin looks a little more like a cardinal/blue jay hybrid. I’m envisioning something better.

  • Beardface | June 7, 2009 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”333514″]NOOO
    The invasion has begun….
    the only question is what league is next…

    http://www.wnba.com/...
    NHL

    And they need it… too many franchises are operating in the red for them to not go this route

  • cam | June 7, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    On the scoreboard, what is the “1st” for all the way in the right?

  • Mike Engle | June 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”333517″]On the scoreboard, what is the “1st” for all the way in the right?[/quote]
    Hmmm…that would be a secret hint. When I figured out what game is being pictured, it became obvious what that was. That being said, I’m hesitant to give out the hint…somebody else can.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 7, 2009 at 5:14 pm |

    There was a team called the Shochiku Robins in Japan in the 1950s. It eventually merged with the Taiyo Whales to become the Taiyo Shochiku Robins, before going back to the Taiyo Whales.

    Logo picture.
    http://www.ritomo.jp...

    Taiyo Robins 1947-1949
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Shochiku Robins 1950-1952
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Taiyo Shochiku Robins 1953-1954
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • lwiedy | June 7, 2009 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”333509″]Billy is wearing the black armband in memory of Casey Stengel, who died the previous October. He will continue to wear the armband – after he is fired by the Rangers/hired by the Yankees about a month after this – until the end of the 1976 season.
    ..[/quote]

    Not unless Billy was clairvoyant:
    http://www.retroshee...
    As a reminder, the ASG was July 1975. You are correct about the band he worn in ’76 though.

  • lwiedy | June 7, 2009 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”333509″]
    The AL team pic should be captioned “The Future New York Yankees” – there are four Yankees on that squad, but, including Martin, there no less than four more who WILL be Yanks in the next three years : Martin, Jackson, Dent and Gossage. Subtract Bobby Bonds, who is about to be traded, that makes seven current and future Yankees…[/quote]

    That’s nothing, check out the 1977 photo:
    http://i256.photobuc...
    There are TEN current or future Yankees players (can you name them?) That’s excluding managers, coaches, trainers and honorary captains. With them the number is a whopping 17!!!

  • Jamie | June 7, 2009 at 5:42 pm |

    I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D

  • UmpLou | June 7, 2009 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”333520″][quote comment=”333509″]Billy is wearing the black armband in memory of Casey Stengel, who died the previous October. He will continue to wear the armband – after he is fired by the Rangers/hired by the Yankees about a month after this – until the end of the 1976 season.
    ..[/quote]

    Not unless Billy was clairvoyant:
    http://www.retroshee...
    As a reminder, the ASG was July 1975. You are correct about the band he worn in ’76 though.[/quote]

    oops…my bad…

  • UmpLou | June 7, 2009 at 6:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”333521″][quote comment=”333509″]
    The AL team pic should be captioned “The Future New York Yankees” – there are four Yankees on that squad, but, including Martin, there no less than four more who WILL be Yanks in the next three years : Martin, Jackson, Dent and Gossage. Subtract Bobby Bonds, who is about to be traded, that makes seven current and future Yankees…[/quote]

    That’s nothing, check out the 1977 photo:
    http://i256.photobuc...
    There are TEN current or future Yankees players (can you name them?)[/quote]

    Jackson, Randolph, Boomer Scott, Ruppert Jones, Dave LaRoche, Campaneris, Munson, Nettles, Lyle, Butch Wynegar

    +7 – Monahan (who is STILL the Yankee trainer!), Torborg, Elston Howard,Lemon, Howser, Joe D, Martin

  • LI Phil | June 7, 2009 at 6:09 pm |

    hey everyone…

    i wanted to thank everyone for playing “guess the game from the scoreboard”…i probably got 25 emails, ALL correct (give yourselves a big hand)…many of you used amazing deductive reasoning…i was going to post the responses, but they’re simply too numerous … if you enjoy the game, feel free to send me pixtures of scoreboards, and i’ll try to post one (or a couple) each weekend — make them HARD since you guys had no trouble with today’s (or yesterday’s) — and i thought they were pretty difficult

    sorry i won’t be able to reply to everyone, was kind of a difficult weekend, but thanks for all your kind words :)

    peace

     

    oh yeah — almost forgot the game, for those who didn’t play: June 9, 1968, crosley field; cards 10, reds 8; game 1 of a double header

  • ChrisSh | June 7, 2009 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”333522″]I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D[/quote]
    In principle, no, however with that example, Octopi is actually not the correct plural of Octopus (it is octopuses), so yes, I would be very upset! :)

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”333526″][quote comment=”333522″]I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D[/quote]
    In principle, no, however with that example, Octopi is actually not the correct plural of Octopus (it is octopuses), so yes, I would be very upset! :)[/quote]
    Oxen would be a great team nickname.

    I don’t hate all singular names. I think there are some that work(ed) quite well: Tampa Bay Lightning, Chicago Fire, Chicago Sting, Southern California Sun and I’m actually OK with the Miami Heat.

    There are definitely some I’m not too fond of: the aforementioned Orlando Magic, New England Revolution, LA Galaxy, Colorado Avalanche, Chicago Blitz, Denver Gold, etc.

    Jury’s still out on the Minnesota Wild.

  • Hibbs | June 7, 2009 at 7:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”333527″][quote comment=”333526″][quote comment=”333522″]I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D[/quote]
    In principle, no, however with that example, Octopi is actually not the correct plural of Octopus (it is octopuses), so yes, I would be very upset! :)[/quote]
    Oxen would be a great team nickname.

    I don’t hate all singular names. I think there are some that work(ed) quite well: Tampa Bay Lightning, Chicago Fire, Chicago Sting, Southern California Sun and I’m actually OK with the Miami Heat.

    There are definitely some I’m not too fond of: the aforementioned Orlando Magic, New England Revolution, LA Galaxy, Colorado Avalanche, Chicago Blitz, Denver Gold, etc.

    Jury’s still out on the Minnesota Wild.[/quote]

    Wild = sucks
    Shouldn’t it be the Florida Marlin?

    P.S. Non uni related:
    I noticed a picture hanging up in the Andy Griffith home tonight. It looked to be a woman holding a kitty. She did not look of the time period. She looked like David Bowie during the Ziggy days. Could it be Andy’s late wife (Opie’s mom)?

  • mike 2 | June 7, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”333526″][quote comment=”333522″]I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D[/quote]
    In principle, no, however with that example, Octopi is actually not the correct plural of Octopus (it is octopuses), so yes, I would be very upset! :)[/quote]

    According to Merriam-Webster, octopuses and octopi are both correct plural forms

    In any event, a better example would be the Manitoba Moose, which is a perfectly good plural form of name and a perfectly good team name.

  • mike 2 | June 7, 2009 at 7:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”333525″]hey everyone…

    i wanted to thank everyone for playing “guess the game from the scoreboard”…i probably got 25 emails, ALL correct (give yourselves a big hand)…many of you used amazing deductive reasoning…i was going to post the responses, but they’re simply too numerous … if you enjoy the game, feel free to send me pixtures of scoreboards, and i’ll try to post one (or a couple) each weekend — make them HARD since you guys had no trouble with today’s (or yesterday’s) — and i thought they were pretty difficult

    sorry i won’t be able to reply to everyone, was kind of a difficult weekend, but thanks for all your kind words :)

    peace

     

    oh yeah — almost forgot the game, for those who didn’t play: June 9, 1968, crosley field; cards 10, reds 8; game 1 of a double header[/quote]

    Nice work again Phil.

    It seems to me that the best way to cut down on your workload and still avoid spoilers in the thread is for those who want to play to post not just an “I’ve got it” but a link to the appropriate retrosheet or baseballreference page (but not the game details). No emails to you, still clear who the winner is, and everyone who want to play can avoid clicking the links.

  • DenverGregg | June 7, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”333522″]I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D[/quote]
    Like the Illini? (But not like the Sioux.)

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2009 at 7:52 pm |

    Wow…am I late to the party or what? Great entry today guys. I was in rain-soaked Minneapolis this weekend for a wedding of a friend (and I got a Jucy Lucy hamburger at Matt’s Bar…friggin’ delicious) and have not been by a computer all weekend, so imagine my delight when I come home to find today’s entry.

    As someone stated earlier, you can still get Graf’s in Sconnie, but you gotta look for it. My dad used to get it when I was a kid, but I hated it, so I used the empty cans for target practice with my BB gun.

    Now for the good stuff. My parents got married in 1974 and started building their house in 1975. I have no idea why, but my dad saved a Graf’s Cola can from one of the workers who was building the house. Thing is… this was a special edition 1975 All-Star Game can. He gave it to me a few years back and it always sits on my desk. It is a little dented, but it’s still awesome. Today is obviously THE day for my to take pics and to show it off. If anyone wants more close-up pics. I will try and do that later.

    1975 All-Star Game Graf’s Cola Can:

    http://i147.photobuc...

    http://i147.photobuc...
    (under the MECCA image it says “MECCA of Milwaukee”)

    http://i147.photobuc...

    And just for fun, here a few pic’s from Matt’s Bar: Home of the Jucy Lucy:

    http://i147.photobuc...

    http://i147.photobuc...

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”333530″][quote comment=”333526″][quote comment=”333522″]I’ve thought of an interesting question for the Uni-Watchers.

    The disdain for the use of singular nouns as team names (a la Magic, Heat, etc.) has been well-documented, but what about plural names with -i or -a endings? Would a team called the Octopi be objectionable to the greater Uni-Watch community? Just a-wonderin’. :D[/quote]
    In principle, no, however with that example, Octopi is actually not the correct plural of Octopus (it is octopuses), so yes, I would be very upset! :)[/quote]

    According to Merriam-Webster, octopuses and octopi are both correct plural forms

    In any event, a better example would be the Manitoba Moose, which is a perfectly good plural form of name and a perfectly good team name.[/quote]
    Good example.

    It’s also one a team name that worked out just as well after the franchise moved (a la the Fort Wayne/Detroit Pistons).

  • JimV19 | June 7, 2009 at 8:41 pm |

    Johnny O, I hope the Jucy Lucy tasted better than it looked – in that shot it looked as if it was sticking out a cheese-colored tongue at me. I’d be willing to try it, though.

    Matt’s Bar – did the owner kick for Penn State? Got me thinking of some other names:
    The Single Bar – owned by Joe Theismann and Mark Moseley (didn’t Lance Alworth wear the single bar facemask too?).
    The No Bar – owned by Bobby Layne.

    I was going to say no for nicknames that don’t end in an s, but you guys brought up some good ones. I like the Moose and the Blitz, and even the Oxen. There used to be an indoor football team called the Omaha Beef, which I thought was cool.

    Hope your week is better than your weekend was, Phil. Enjoy the rest of the weekend, everyone.

  • JTH | June 7, 2009 at 8:43 pm |

    “one a team name”? Um, OK.

  • harry | June 7, 2009 at 9:51 pm |

    I laughed quite a bit reading the bio of Steve Garvey that accompioned the picture in the ASG program. “Conducts himself in the manner of a traditional clean-cut athletic hero” This guy was once called “The Father of our Country” for the kids he fathered out of wedlock. But I just found a site (lipstickalley) that had an article that listed athletes and how many kids they fathered. Garvey “only” fathered two out of wedlock where as Calvin Murphy had 14 kids by 9 women and Travis Henry had 9 by 9.

  • Oakville Endive | June 7, 2009 at 9:51 pm |

    There is a story on CNNSI website, concerning the Dallas Cowboy’s new stadium (which hopefully does not start another wave of perfectly good stadiums being deemed obsolete)

    The uni-specific issue shows an animation of the Cowboys running onto the field – If the animation is correct (I suspect unlikely) – Dallas will have a new number font – similar but thicker than the Pittsburgh Steelers number font.

    One other quick point – while basketball unis don’t do much for me, I really like the shade of blue that the Orlando Magic use. More teams should adopt this colour.

  • PCFriarsDan | June 7, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    Phil, is today’s entry title a reference to the Stephen Kellogg and the Sixers song Milwaukee?

  • Mike Engle | June 7, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”333538″]I laughed quite a bit reading the bio of Steve Garvey that accompioned the picture in the ASG program.

    “Conducts himself in the manner of a traditional clean-cut athletic hero”

    This guy was once called “The Father of our Country” for the kids he fathered out of wedlock. But I just found a site (lipstickalley) that had an article that listed athletes and how many kids they fathered. Garvey “only” fathered two out of wedlock where as Calvin Murphy had 14 kids by 9 women and Travis Henry had 9 by 9.[/quote]
    Uh, update: Travis Henry has 11 by 10. And that isn’t a measure of him going steady; rather, it’s the fact that his last recipient of child support gave birth to twins.

  • lwiedy | June 7, 2009 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”333533″]Wow…am I late to the party or what? Great entry today guys. I was in rain-soaked Minneapolis this weekend for a wedding of a friend (and I got a Jucy Lucy hamburger at Matt’s Bar…friggin’ delicious) and have not been by a computer all weekend, so imagine my delight when I come home to find today’s entry.

    As someone stated earlier, you can still get Graf’s in Sconnie, but you gotta look for it. My dad used to get it when I was a kid, but I hated it, so I used the empty cans for target practice with my BB gun.

    Now for the good stuff. My parents got married in 1974 and started building their house in 1975. I have no idea why, but my dad saved a Graf’s Cola can from one of the workers who was building the house. Thing is… this was a special edition 1975 All-Star Game can. He gave it to me a few years back and it always sits on my desk. It is a little dented, but it’s still awesome. Today is obviously THE day for my to take pics and to show it off. If anyone wants more close-up pics. I will try and do that later.

    1975 All-Star Game Graf’s Cola Can:

    http://i147.photobuc...

    http://i147.photobuc...
    (under the MECCA image it says “MECCA of Milwaukee”)

    http://i147.photobuc...

    And just for fun, here a few pic’s from Matt’s Bar: Home of the Jucy Lucy:

    http://i147.photobuc...

    http://i147.photobuc...

    Glad you liked it Johnny. To be honest, I picked this year to sort of “play to the crowd”. Before UW, I never heard of a Brewers fan ;-) but you guys are small but loud. You, Chance, Teri (I think) et al.

    Hope you enjoyed.

  • LI Phil | June 7, 2009 at 10:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”333540″]Phil, is today’s entry title a reference to the Stephen Kellogg and the Sixers song Milwaukee?[/quote]

    yes

    fantastic pick up…i owe you a coke

    and if i acted like a dick — i didn’t mean i didn’t care

  • PCFriarsDan | June 7, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”333543″][quote comment=”333540″]Phil, is today’s entry title a reference to the Stephen Kellogg and the Sixers song Milwaukee?[/quote]

    yes

    fantastic pick up…i owe you a coke[/quote]

    Such a great band. I’ve been to 3 of their shows in NY and Providence. They’re actually playing in Hoboken, where I live, in a few weeks.

    http://www.maxwellsn...

  • David | June 7, 2009 at 10:37 pm |

    am i missing something with the list that was presented in this posting? what’s the list of???

  • LI Phil | June 7, 2009 at 10:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”333545″]am i missing something with the list that was presented in this posting? what’s the list of???[/quote]

    it’s larry’s listing of the rings presented in this ad

  • nettles | June 8, 2009 at 12:18 am |

    I’ve actually seen one of those rings up close. Mel Renfro – Cowboys HOF safety – showed me his ring while I was purchasing a car from him, during his days at a dealership in Portland. What a nice, nice guy, and a beautiful ring as well. It was huge!

  • Chris S. | June 8, 2009 at 2:31 am |

    The Sabres’ website is letting the fans rank .

  • Chris S. | June 8, 2009 at 2:33 am |

    Whoops!

    The Sabres\’ website is letting the fans rank the top five goalie masks in team history.

  • Jon | June 8, 2009 at 8:18 am |

    Umm,… Reggie, Hank, we’re ready to take the CLICK!

  • Big Al | June 8, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”333487″]By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.quote]
    “Vida Blue was absent when picture was taken.”

    That slayed me for some reason.

  • Big Al | June 8, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”333487″]By my count, the Oakland representatives are wearing 5 different uni combos in the AL team photo.[/quote]
    “Vida Blue was absent when picture was taken.”

    That slayed me for some reason.

  • anotherguy | June 8, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    Good idea on the email responses to the “Guess the game from the scoreboard” picture. And above and beyond that, some great baseball shots too: nice pic of the old Crosley Field neighborhood Sunday.

    A little Cincy symmetry today: if anyone saw Dusty Baker in the Cincy red top yesterday, you’ll understand why I’m proposing a weight limit on those dark top jersey looks. :-) Almost looked like Santa from the (very ample) waist up.

    Dusty, go with the windshirt look on those days; you’ll be doing us all a favor.

  • anotherguy | June 8, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    The Hammer takes in a little USC-UCLAI really thought this would be a picture of Fred Williamson.

  • Perry | June 8, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    Easy one for me on “Guess the Game.” I took one look and got chills. Why? I WAS THERE THAT DAY.

    I was 13. My dad and I traveled from our home near Columbus to see the Reds once or twice a year, and since it was a long trip we always went for doubleheaders. This was game one of the DH that day, and at the time of the photo the Cards were about to put up a 10-spot, which made for a very weird scoreline, which is why I remember it. Their scoreline for the game was

    000 0(10)0 000.

    Final was 10-8. June 9, 1968 (thanks baseball-reference).

  • Addam | June 8, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    Call me a kid, and I may just be ignorant, but is something messed up? The Brewers are in both the AL and NL photos. Why?

  • Addam | June 8, 2009 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”333853″]Call me a kid, and I may just be ignorant, but is something messed up? The Brewers are in both the AL and NL photos. Why?[/quote]
    Oh wait. . . bat boys. My mistake.

  • Mark W | June 9, 2009 at 7:52 am |

    So, what’s in a graf/s “50/50”?

  • Scott | June 9, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    The Reds wear their red jerseys for day games at home. Not sure where the tortured logic of the contributor comes from (once per series.)