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Throwing Back, Throwing Up, Whatever

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I’d planned to use today’s entry to write about my visit yesterday to Lelands auction house. But now I’ve decided to save that for later in the week, because I want to talk about last night’s Brewers/Cardinals throwback game.

The basics: The Brewers hosted a 25th-anniversary reunion of their 1982 pennant-winning team last night (note how there appears to be some dispute amongst the oldsters regarding the tucked vs. untucked protocol, with tucked apparently winning). Since the Cardinals were in town, they re-created the ’82 World Series by having both teams wear ’82 throwbacks.

It’s nice that the that the Brewers wore pullovers with no names on the back (instead of their regular Friday throwbacks, which are based on the ’82 design but have button-fronts and names), and that both teams had period-appropriate elastic waistbands. But there were also several things that were, well, not so nice.

And no, I’m not referring to the obvious problems like the jerseys being too baggy, the sleeves being too long, or most of the players leaving their pants at their ankles (with some welcome exceptions on each side) — that’s all pretty much par for the throwback course these days.

What I’m talking about is this:

• The Ken Boyer memorial armband that the Cardinals wore in ’82 was missing last night. Very simple detail, very easy to see in any photo of the 1982 team. Why not include it?

• The striping at the base of the Cardinals’ sleeves was comically oversized. C’mon, people, how can you look at this and come up with this? The stripes were almost as thick as the waistband!

• They used the wrong version of the Cardinals’ birds on the bat. The tail feathers should have been like this — in front of the bat on the left, behind the bat on the right. They got it backwards.

• Most damningly, whose bright idea was it to have the Cards insignia on a white-outlined patch — a format they have never worn at any time in their history — instead of directly embroidered? (Over on the Chris Creamer boards, someone pointed out that the Cards were stuck with insignia patches one other time this season [I think that was for a throwback game in San Diego], but a previous set of ’82 throwbacks, worn for a 2005 game in against the Devil Rays, came a lot closer to getting it right.)

Actually, I know whose idea it was: I’d been told a while back that the Brewers ordered up the uniforms this way (the home team is usually in charge of both sets of unis for throwback games) and refused to budge even when the problems were brought to their attention by people in the Cardinals’ offices. Lame-o, Brew Crew.

(Special thanks to Nicole Haase, who attended the game and provided many of the photos seen above. Check out her full photo gallery here.)

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Membership News: After a lot of hard work (most of it by Scott, let it be duly noted), we’ve just about caught up with all the membership orders. Except for Alan Saunders (we’re making a slight tweak to your design — should be done later today or tomorrow), Ben Hixon (ditto), and Taha Jamil (I’m still waiting to hear what design treatment you want), every entry on the active roster is now linked to a finished design. Check out the full slate of cards in the design gallery.

The design shown above is probably my favorite of the entire membership project. I thought long and hard when considering whether to honor the request — after all, it shows the back of a helmet, not the back of a jersey (and as many of you have learned, I’ve turned down quite a few requests that didn’t match our basic design format). But it was just too good a treatment to pass up. Plus it honors one of the uniform world’s subtlest and most enduring details. Great idea by member Casey Shaeffer, great execution by Scott. Just don’t get any bright ideas about asking us to reproduce the airbrushed design on NHL goalie backplates — that’s beyond our reach.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Yankees have added a “10” sleeve memorial for Phil Rizzuto. … The latest development in the skirmish over NFL photographers’ logo-creeped vests is reported here. … Forgot to mention yesterday that the Eagles’ 75th-anniversary patch looks pretty good. … Lots of uni-related minor league promotions listed here (with thanks to Dan Sherman). … Speaking of which, Natron reports that the Rochester Red Wings did the Hawaiian shirt thing on Sunday. … And in still more minor league news, the Lehigh Valley IronPigs unveiled their new uniforms yesterday. “My boss says to tell you that the new unis are nothing but a cash-grab,” says Kora Manheimer, who works for Minor League Baseball and provided the images I’m about to link to. “They have home, road, Saturday, Sunday, and alternate!” A bit excessive, I agree, but you’ve gotta like that Sunday uni, what with the pig’s head chest logo and the piggy tail cap (too bad they didn’t put the tail on the back of the cap, though). Additional images here, here, and here. Oh, and here’s my favorite. … Way back in December, I wrote an entry about the profusion of NCAA mascots who are depicted wearing sailor’s caps. Now Tim Donovan, while poking around the excellent Victory Pennants site, has found another: the Penn State lion. … Cool eBay item here (good find by Jeremy Brahm). … The Astros will wear a different uniform from each era of Craig Biggio’s career on the season’s final weekend. Details here (with thanks to Ryan Patrick).

 

212 comments to Throwing Back, Throwing Up, Whatever

  • Gary | August 15, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    Thanks for the close ups of the LV Ironpigs jerseys. I couldnt see the detail of them from the offering on the teams site. Aside from the Saturday hat, which I just don’t like, the unis aren’t bad. I much prefer the Away cap to the Home, and wish they had gone with the LV on the home as well. That Sunday hat is classic, and the first thing my wife said was “The tail should be on the back”. Maybe she does get it after all….

  • Mike | August 15, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    too bad they’ll only use the rainbow sleeves instead of these

  • Mike | August 15, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    whoops, these: http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Shaeff | August 15, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    Scott is the Man!! Thanks for the hard work…

    Not sure if anyone has posted this yet but USC is going to honor their kicker (Mario Danelo) who died tragically in the offseason…

  • Joe O. | August 15, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    I’m feeling the piggy tail hat…but how many jerseys does one team need?

    Most minor league teams do a lot of one-off jerseys (i.e.- the flower shirt). And then I’m sure they will pull out a throwback or 3. That just seems to be a bit of overkill…

  • Shaeff | August 15, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    The Trojans will pay tribute to Danelo in many ways this season. They painted a cardinal and gold 19 in the practice field end zone where he kicked most of his field goals. No player will wear the No. 19 this season and for the foreseeable future. A chair is left empty for Danelo during team meetings. There will be a banner above the tunnel at the Coliseum with Danelo’s name and number. The goal-post pads will also bear his name and number and every USC player will wear a custom helmet sticker with Danelo’s No. 19. “I think it’s a nice tribute to somebody that we really miss and love, and we hate the thought he’s not with us,” Carroll said. “In some ways, it’s just a demonstration of his spirit and that he’s with us and we want to recognize it. Every time we kick one, it goes right over 19, so it’s kind of cool.”

  • Jason G. | August 15, 2007 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”132595″]whoops, these: http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    This may have been discussed at one point or another, if it has I apologize for bringing it up. Is there any significance to the pattern of the stripes on those things? They almost seem randomly placed.

  • Chris Sk | August 15, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    Does anybody know the significance of the “26” on the “Swinging Pig” seems odd they would use an actually jersey number on the design. Plus shouldn’t the pig have the swinging pig patch on its sleeve? I guess that would have cause and ifinite progression (is that the right word?)problem.

    Swinging Pig

  • todd krevanchi | August 15, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    i remember these as the 84 olympic jackets
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  • Rich | August 15, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”132592″]Thanks for the close ups of the LV Ironpigs jerseys. I couldnt see the detail of them from the offering on the teams site. Aside from the Saturday hat, which I just don’t like, the unis aren’t bad. I much prefer the Away cap to the Home, and wish they had gone with the LV on the home as well. That Sunday hat is classic, and the first thing my wife said was “The tail should be on the back”. Maybe she does get it after all….[/quote]

    Isn’t it obvious? The piggy tail should go on the back of the PANTS! Somehow I don’t see that happening though! ^_^

  • My name is not Earl | August 15, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    The 26 probably has something to do with the fact that there are 25 guys on a team, and the mascot is seen as the “26th man” (or pig, in this case), much as fans are seen as the “12th man” in football (case in point: the Angels have #26 retired for Gene Autry)

  • Pat | August 15, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    I’m pleasantly surprised by the quality of the work done on the Iron pigs uniforms. When I heard cash grab I was thinking really cheesy with a squiggly tailed wordmark on the front or numbers on the back. I abslutely love the bat swinging pigs whether it is a little bit of a rip off, just a little bit.

    Even though it has a more modernized feel than any of the previous mascot type logos the “character” (for lack of a better word) doesn’t look too forced.

    Basically what I am saying is, when I heard “cash-grab” I was expecting full on cheese. Whether they went straight for the pig farm reference and wore plaid shirts or went the cutesy route and did the squiggly tails 20 times over on the jerseys, I was expecting something awful.

    I am pleasantly surprised.

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”132605″]i remember these as the 84 olympic jackets
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    Yeah, that velour was a really good look. Unfortunately, one of the greatest moments in Olympic History had them also.

  • McLovin | August 15, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    Wouldn’t it be crazy if the University of Arkansas (they of Calling the Hogs) decide that the Iron Pig logo looks too much like their Razorback logo and try to sue, much like the Badgers did when all those schools decided to use the Motion W?

  • John in Athens | August 15, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    Worse than the swoosh.

    Looks a little too much like this.

    (You’d be suprized at how difficult it is to find a decent t-shirt tag sticking out photo).

  • Bob Sullivan | August 15, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.

  • Eric | August 15, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Back of the Helmet design. It seems that each new member is trying to out do each other with either a wacky design or some obscure team..

  • Mark M | August 15, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    Today’s Indianapolis Star has details on the memorial patch for Indiana U’s Terry Hoeppner.

    Hep Patch

    They show the “HEP” patch on the jersey. No visuals on the back of the helmet inspiration.

  • CJ | August 15, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”132617″]Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.[/quote]

    Too bad Eaton didn’t slip on the grass. He’s gonna tank what little chance this team has at the playoffs.

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”132621″][quote comment=”132617″]Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.[/quote]

    Too bad Eaton didn’t slip on the grass. He’s gonna tank what little chance this team has at the playoffs.

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]
    Someone will probably want a chest protector with their name on it for a card design next.

  • Kenny | August 15, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”132618″]Back of the Helmet design. It seems that each new member is trying to out do each other with either a wacky design or some obscure team..[/quote]

    Who cares

    [quote comment=”132621″][quote comment=”132617″]Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.[/quote]

    Too bad Eaton didn’t slip on the grass. He’s gonna tank what little chance this team has at the playoffs.

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]

    Again who cares

    [quote comment=”132623″][quote comment=”132621″][quote comment=”132617″]Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.[/quote]

    Too bad Eaton didn’t slip on the grass. He’s gonna tank what little chance this team has at the playoffs.

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]
    Someone will probably want a chest protector with their name on it for a card design next.[/quote]

    Also who cares

    Maybe I’ll get this next year

  • Elena E | August 15, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    Nice photo gallery from the Cardinals-Brewers game, Nicole.

  • todd krevanchi | August 15, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    the iron pigs will play at coca cola park (literally 2 miles from my house) so i will be heavily supporting them (of course my company has season tix too, and that helps)

    how bout on bronx is burning last night, the care they took in filming and showing how players (or in this case martin) cuffed his pants.
    pulling them up,
    then back down,
    taping them,
    then pulling them back up.

    it was suck a conscious effort that they focussed on this process for a good 20 seconds of the show.

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”132624″][quote comment=”132618″]Back of the Helmet design. It seems that each new member is trying to out do each other with either a wacky design or some obscure team..[/quote]

    Who cares

    [quote comment=”132621″][quote comment=”132617″]Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.[/quote]

    Too bad Eaton didn’t slip on the grass. He’s gonna tank what little chance this team has at the playoffs.

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]

    Again who cares

    [quote comment=”132623″][quote comment=”132621″][quote comment=”132617″]Was watching the Phillies-Nationals game last night on Philadelphia feed. At the end of the game, during the post-game handshakes, I noticed Cole Hamels (not scheduled to pitch until Thursday) wearing plain gray sneakers, not regulation red spikes. Don’t have a screen shot.

    The way the Phillies pitching staff has picked up injuries this year, I’m just happy he didn’t slip on the grass.[/quote]

    Too bad Eaton didn’t slip on the grass. He’s gonna tank what little chance this team has at the playoffs.

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]
    Someone will probably want a chest protector with their name on it for a card design next.[/quote]

    Also who cares

    Maybe I’ll get this next year[/quote]
    I’m of the ‘who cares’ mindset also. I was just trying to come up with the most ridiculous way to display one’s last name, and well, Posada’s chest protector fits that bill. Doubt the giant Swoosh would ever make it onto a card, however.

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    Lost in some of the baseball talk today was another ugly incident in minor-league ball last night.

    From the Associated Press:

    “BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) – Former major league all-star Jose Offerman was arrested Tuesday night after charging the mound and hitting the pitcher and catcher with his bat during an independent minor league game.

    Offerman, playing for the Long Island Ducks in the Atlantic League, homered in the first inning. The next inning, he was hit by a pitch from Bridgeport’s Matt Beech and charged the mound with his bat.

    Offerman hit Beech in the hands and struck catcher John Nathans in the head.”

    What the hell is wrong with Offerman? You take a bat out to the mound after getting beaned?

  • djl | August 15, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    New shirt sponsor for the Houston Dynamo of MLS.

  • PSU95 | August 15, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    A quick note about the Penn State pennant link, you forgot the NITTANY!

    “Lions” is only used when the “Penn State” is left off.

    -“Nitt”-picky Happy Valley resident

  • Mark Richter | August 15, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    Another note on the Cardinals’ throwbacks — the front number was too small; it was larger back in the day. And the name on the back was also done differently back then (slightly different font). I’m also guessing that they used the current shade of red, which is different from 1982. I can live with those differences, but the rest were inexcusable! I just wish more players from both teams would have worn more era-appropriate hosiery.

  • Mark Richter | August 15, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    “I can live with those differences, but the rest were inexcusable! I just wish more players from both teams would have worn more era-appropriate hosiery.”

    Although I guess that everyone who wore their pants down to their shoes could technically claim that they were honoring George Hendrick.

  • Kenny | August 15, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    Stuby-

    wasn’t callin’ anyone out. I’d actually like to see the chest protector design, it would probably look pretty cool.

    mark me down for liking the Cards/Brewers throwbacks sans white outline that is

  • Web Design 4 U | August 15, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    The ’82 Brewers unis are cool every once in a while, but they’d look ridiculous to wear everyday. Go Harvey’s Wallbangers!

  • Coliform | August 15, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    WIll the Nationals ever don the Expos’ powder blue?

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    Doesn’t look like the Brewers used the correct number font on the jerseys as seen here. Did they at least wear batting helmets with the white panel in the front?

  • CJ | August 15, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”132641″]WIll the Nationals ever don the Expos’ powder blue?[/quote]

    I doubt it. That seems like something they would like to forget.

  • Josh | August 15, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    Man, how dissapointing. I pointed out all the flaws with the Cardinals throwbacks in last night’s comments, and not even a mention.

  • Mike V | August 15, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    I like how the NFL logo is cut off on the membership card pictured above. I am guessing this was intentional because if you did put it on 1) you do not have official league consent to place it on items 2) and if you did, that would perhaps make the membership card official NFL merchandise, and since the NFL is not getting a cut of any money, they might come and take Paul and execute him in one of three ways

    1. Take him and put him in a club with Pacman Jones, where they will force Paul to try and pick up Pacman’s money that he just made it rain with.

    2. Take Paul and dump him in a fight pit in the back of Michael Vick’s house.

    3. Take Paul and have him spend a night with the Cincinnati Bengals.

  • Mark in Shiga | August 15, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”132643″]Doesn’t look like the Brewers used the correct number font on the jerseys as seen here. Did they at least wear batting helmets with the white panel in the front?[/quote]

    The font is wrong (should’ve been full varsity block) and also seems too small. Then again, maybe it just looks smaller because of how baggy the jerseys are now.

    Good to see them wearing “real” throwbacks instead of the bogus completely-wrong ones that they had been using all season long, though.

  • Kevin | August 15, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    Did anyone get a good look at Johnny Estrada’s socks? I was there, but couldn’t tell if he was wearing Frank Robinson-style stirrups or the “stirrup-socks” he wears on off days pulled way high.

  • Rich | August 15, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”132631″]New shirt sponsor for the Houston Dynamo of MLS.[/quote]

    Is that logo supposed to be a sombrero, or a spaceship?

  • Beats in Buffalo | August 15, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    I may be mistaken but I thought I remember reading that an NHL team would be unvailing their new look today, the Senators perhaps?…anyone have any info if there is an unvailing today or when the next one is

  • Jerry | August 15, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”132647″][quote comment=”132643″]Doesn’t look like the Brewers used the correct number font on the jerseys as seen here. Did they at least wear batting helmets with the white panel in the front?[/quote]

    The font is wrong (should’ve been full varsity block) and also seems too small. Then again, maybe it just looks smaller because of how baggy the jerseys are now.

    Good to see them wearing “real” throwbacks instead of the bogus completely-wrong ones that they had been using all season long, though.[/quote]

    It was indeed nice to see the Brewers wear the real throwbacks. It was also nice to see the Cardinals in throwbacks, even if they were flawed.

    [quote comment=”132650″]Did anyone get a good look at Johnny Estrada’s socks? I was there, but couldn’t tell if he was wearing Frank Robinson-style stirrups or the “stirrup-socks” he wears on off days pulled way high.[/quote]

    According to Jim Powell on the Brewers Radio Network Estrada had on the stirrups. Even the Cardinals stirrups got mention on the Brewers Radio Network from Bob Uecker and Powell.

  • KT | August 15, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    Wasn’t George Hendrick (circa 1982, Cardinals) one of the first, if not THE first, to wear his pants down to his shoes? Seems like I remember that.

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”132652″]I may be mistaken but I thought I remember reading that an NHL team would be unvailing their new look today, the Senators perhaps?…anyone have any info if there is an unvailing today or when the next one is[/quote]

    Senators and Lightning are next week.

  • Gary | August 15, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”132627″]the iron pigs will play at coca cola park (literally 2 miles from my house) so i will be heavily supporting them (of course my company has season tix too, and that helps)
    [/quote]

    I’ll see you at some of those games Todd… I live not too far away either… . I’m actually considering picking up a part time usher gig or something.

  • Matt B | August 15, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    The link a few days back about fonts on the interstate signs reminded me of another favorite website. Sorta like uniwatch for scientists.

    Will there be an NYC unicentric party this labor day weekend? I know PL has hosted one in the past, but if that’s not in the works then maybe just meeting at a watering hole that Sunday afternoon…

  • Chitown Joe | August 15, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    Estrada’s were stirrup socks. Unfortunately I get Cardinals tv in my area and they did a close up of his socks. The Card’s color commentator (Horton?) mentioned that the stirriups were “painted on”. And they obviously were since they fit snuggly along the curves of his ankle to knee.

  • Purple Brigade | August 15, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    That Dallas helmet card design is very good.

    I like it.

  • Dane | August 15, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”132646″]…they might come and take Paul and execute him in one of three ways

    1. Take him and put him in a club with Pacman Jones, where they will force Paul to try and pick up Pacman’s money that he just made it rain with.

    2. Take Paul and dump him in a fight pit in the back of Michael Vick’s house.

    3. Take Paul and have him spend a night with the Cincinnati Bengals.[/quote]

    4. Make Paul attend the Falcons-Cardinals game on Dec. 23.

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”132643″]Doesn’t look like the Brewers used the correct number font on the jerseys as seen here. Did they at least wear batting helmets with the white panel in the front?[/quote]
    At least the Brewers are making an effort. I’ve been bugging the Blue Jays to try this, but they are a hard nosed closed doors operation. The whole league should have a throwback day, pick a year, and have the league go by it for a day or even a series.

  • Mike Engle | August 15, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”132660″]That Dallas helmet card design is very good.

    I like it.[/quote]
    Where’s the warning sticker?

  • John Zajac | August 15, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    Fake stirrups in the Biggio pic on that article…

  • Pete | August 15, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.

  • Michael James | August 15, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    Johnny Estrada had the stirrup look, but on my HDTV it looked like they had been stitched into a pair of white socks. He wore the pants legs at the knees, and the width of the stirrup seemed to be consistent from ankle to knee.

    Although I had pointed out to my wife that the Cardinals uniforms looked horrible (a caught many of the same reasons that Paul did), my biggest complaint was the bagginess of the uniform. Why bother with the look (loved the sans-a-belt) when you have no real intention of carrying off the look? Details are one thing, but to screw up the basics. The teams did not wear V-neck uniforms, they wore V-sternums.

  • Anthony M | August 15, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”132663″][quote comment=”132643″]Doesn’t look like the Brewers used the correct number font on the jerseys as seen here. Did they at least wear batting helmets with the white panel in the front?[/quote]
    At least the Brewers are making an effort. I’ve been bugging the Blue Jays to try this, but they are a hard nosed closed doors operation. The whole league should have a throwback day, pick a year, and have the league go by it for a day or even a series.[/quote]

    The Jays are wearing throwbacks for Friday home games next year.

  • Robert | August 15, 2007 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”132663″][quote comment=”132643″]Doesn’t look like the Brewers used the correct number font on the jerseys as seen here. Did they at least wear batting helmets with the white panel in the front?[/quote]
    At least the Brewers are making an effort. I’ve been bugging the Blue Jays to try this, but they are a hard nosed closed doors operation. The whole league should have a throwback day, pick a year, and have the league go by it for a day or even a series.[/quote]

    I agree. It would make for a lot of marketing opportunities, and we know how much MLB likes to market itself.

    I would also like to see more teams have “Throwback Friday” every Friday or something along those lines. I would love to see the Reds do that with their 1950s uniforms, which were among the first throwbacks that the team wore back in the early 1990s.

  • Pete | August 15, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    Here’s hoping that on the “gold star” jersey night, the Astros wear that hideous, putrid alternate cap that had the metallic gold brim.

  • KT | August 15, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”132664″][quote comment=”132660″]That Dallas helmet card design is very good.

    I like it.[/quote]
    Where’s the warning sticker?[/quote]

    I’m not sure they existed until several years ago.

  • Mark in Shiga | August 15, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”132671″]Here’s hoping that on the “gold star” jersey night, the Astros wear that hideous, putrid alternate cap that had the metallic gold brim.[/quote]

    Putrid? I love that hat.

    One of my favorite Astros uniforms is the plain navy/black jersey with just the star on the front. That with the gold-billed hat would look perfect.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 15, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”132665″]Fake stirrups in the Biggio pic on that article…[/quote]

    Ouch!

  • Dan King | August 15, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”132662″][quote comment=”132646″]…they might come and take Paul and execute him in one of three ways

    1. Take him and put him in a club with Pacman Jones, where they will force Paul to try and pick up Pacman’s money that he just made it rain with.

    2. Take Paul and dump him in a fight pit in the back of Michael Vick’s house.

    3. Take Paul and have him spend a night with the Cincinnati Bengals.[/quote]

    4. Make Paul attend the Falcons-Cardinals game on Dec. 23.[/quote]

    are the ravens playing the vikings anytime this year, b/c i think paul would claw his eyes out if he had to watch that game

  • KT | August 15, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    In other news, Indiana University’s football team will wear a patch for their late coach Terry Hoeppner this year. You probably knew that, but this is the first photo I’ve seen of the patch.

  • jesse | August 15, 2007 at 11:47 am |

    Re: Out doing each other with Membership Designs

    The prevailing opinion on this site is usually that simple, tastefull, uniforms are the best. Outlandish designs, Oregon, the Fisherman Islanders jersey etc. are widely (though not universally) reviled.

    The funny thing is, is when it’s their name on the card so many people have gone out of their way to be distinctive. Oregon’s coach has always said his player love the uniforms they wear, becasue they are so crazy, and they change every week.

    I think that it is almost the same sort of thing.

  • Paul Lukas | August 15, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”132621″]I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]

    Well, actually, it would be more of an oatmeal-ish tone, because uniforms weren’t truly white back then.

    But if someone does want that, so what? I’m genuinely surprised by the amount of vitriol being directed at certain members. If you don’t like someone’s card design choice, well, OK, but exactly what bearing does it have on you? None. Are some people are trying to “outdo” each other with “obscure” design choices? Maybe, although I’d be careful about mind-reading — the guy who chose the San Diego Chicken design, e.g., is actually from San Diego and loves the Chicken. So his card is a genuine expression of a uni-related passion that’s important to him. But even if he was just trying to “out-do” everyone else (whatever that even means — there’s no rating, no score, etc.), so what?

    I’ve rejected lots of design requests for various reasons, so it’s not like we’re just rubber-stamping everyone’s application. And I assure you that the “obscure” ones are a lot more work for us, in terms of research and execution. I frankly think the Cowboys helmet treatment was a brilliant request. If you disagree, fine — but again, what exactly does it have to do with you anyway? Assuming you’re happy with your own card, isn’t that the only thing that really matters?

    Jeez.

  • Amy | August 15, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    I haven’t felt the need (until today) to chime in and say “I don’t care what other people have on their cards – in fact I like seeing peoples’ creativity (and with I got some of it)”. But I guess its time. I suspect that those of use who enjoy the creative card ideas or are at least indifferent are in the quiet majority.

  • Eric B. | August 15, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    How can we get someone to actually produce that “To Be Determined” jacket? I need one of those.

  • Robert | August 15, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    I would enjoy reviewing a list of the rejected card requests. Just to satisfy a general sense of curiosity, it would be interesting to see which ones were rejected, the reason given by the requestors for wanting the designs, and the reasons for the rejections.

    Also, I wonder whether Paul has become more lenient with the passage of time. Would the first rejected card still be rejected if it was submitted today?

    Again, I have no dog in this fight and do not care whether anyone is trying to outdo anyone else. I am simply intrigued by the card designs that members desire.

  • jesse | August 15, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”132680″]Re: Out doing each other with Membership Designs

    The prevailing opinion on this site is usually that simple, tastefull, uniforms are the best. Outlandish designs, Oregon, the Fisherman Islanders jersey etc. are widely (though not universally) reviled.

    The funny thing is, is when it’s their name on the card so many people have gone out of their way to be distinctive. Oregon’s coach has always said his player love the uniforms they wear, becasue they are so crazy, and they change every week.

    I think that it is almost the same sort of thing.[/quote]

    Just to be clear, I could care less what designs people pick. I just thought this was interesting observation as to what people picked versus what people say they like.

  • Robert | August 15, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    Oh, and I should mention that the coolest thing about the Cowboys helmet design card is that all of us no doubt immediately recognized what was on the card and the unique feature that prompted it to be requested. Would that have been the case a year ago? Certainly not. Very cool.

  • UW justin | August 15, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”132684″]I haven’t felt the need (until today) to chime in and say “I don’t care what other people have on their cards – in fact I like seeing peoples’ creativity (and with I got some of it)”. But I guess its time. I suspect that those of use who enjoy the creative card ideas or are at least indifferent are in the quiet majority.[/quote]

    ditto.

    I actually check everyday for new card designs because I love seeing the ideas that people come up with and the work that has been done to fulfill those ideas. It’s great.

    So whatever the reason – genuine interest in the team or simply to out-do someone – keep it up. That’s part of what makes the membership so cool…

    Also, why is it that everytime a new batch of cards is put up in the gallery that we have to hear about how they’re just out-doing someone? You wouldn’t just come out at blast someone and say something like “whoever did that such and such card is stupid because it’s ugly,” would you? Because, even indirectly, you’re insulting that person’s creativity and desire to have an original card…regardless of the motive behind the card.

  • Matt D. | August 15, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”132594″]too bad they’ll only use the rainbow sleeves instead of these [/quote]

    Give the Astros credit for trying to go with authenticity. I’s pretty sure that the Astros stopped wearing the full-on striped uniform after Game 6 of the 1986 NCLS. They are at least focusing on the uniforms that Biggio actually wore. If they were in for crass marketing, they would toss in the Colts uni, or the shooting star uni.

  • Kyle O from VA | August 15, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    In light of Paul’s mentioning of mascots wearing a sailor’s cap, I think the Fighting Gobbler head might be one of the ugliest mascots of all time. But I love the audacity to use such an ugly creature to represent your athletics program.

  • CJ | August 15, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”132682″]Well, actually, it would be more of an oatmeal-ish tone, because uniforms weren’t truly white back then.

    But if someone does want that, so what? I’m genuinely surprised by the amount of vitriol being directed at certain members. If you don’t like someone’s card design choice, well, OK, but exactly what bearing does it have on you? None. Are some people are trying to “outdo” each other with “obscure” design choices? Maybe, although I’d be careful about mind-reading — the guy who chose the San Diego Chicken design, e.g., is actually from San Diego and loves the Chicken. So his card is a genuine expression of a uni-related passion that’s important to him. But even if he was just trying to “out-do” everyone else (whatever that even means — there’s no rating, no score, etc.), so what?

    I’ve rejected lots of design requests for various reasons, so it’s not like we’re just rubber-stamping everyone’s application. And I assure you that the “obscure” ones are a lot more work for us, in terms of research and execution. I frankly think the Cowboys helmet treatment was a brilliant request. If you disagree, fine — but again, what exactly does it have to do with you anyway? Assuming you’re happy with your own card, isn’t that the only thing that really matters?

    Jeez.[/quote]

    I apologize for daring to make a comment on an obviously divisive issue. I know now that I should keep my opinions to myself.

    In other news, I loved the helmet design, and the chicken, and the guy who did the Bayern Muenchen design (it had a backstory at least). The oatmeal blank card would be pretty sweet actually.

    I don’t even know what to say.

  • Mark Richter | August 15, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”132654″]Wasn’t George Hendrick (circa 1982, Cardinals) one of the first, if not THE first, to wear his pants down to his shoes? Seems like I remember that.[/quote]

    KT, I was thinking the same thing, but I was pretty young at the time so I don’t know if there may have been others previously who did this. Certainly one of the first, don’t know if he was THE first, though.

  • CJ | August 15, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”132696″]I don’t even know what to say.[/quote]

    You know what? I do.

    I apologize.

  • Purple Brigade | August 15, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.

    Commie.

  • Purple Brigade | August 15, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”132686″]I would enjoy reviewing a list of the rejected card requests. Just to satisfy a general sense of curiosity, it would be interesting to see which ones were rejected, the reason given by the requestors for wanting the designs, and the reasons for the rejections.

    Also, I wonder whether Paul has become more lenient with the passage of time. Would the first rejected card still be rejected if it was submitted today?

    Again, I have no dog in this fight and do not care whether anyone is trying to outdo anyone else. I am simply intrigued by the card designs that members desire.[/quote]

    I guarantee you there is a ton of purple on that list.

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”132699″]Also, I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.

    Commie.[/quote]
    Awesome.

  • GoTerriers | August 15, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”132686″]Again, I have no dog in this fight and do not care whether anyone is trying to outdo anyone else. I am simply intrigued by the card designs that members desire.[/quote]

    Interesting choice of words (especially if you’re a Falcon’s fan . . . .)

    On a sad, yet appropriate, note . . .I got my Membership Card on Monday. R.I.P Scooter . . .We miss you already.

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”132680″]
    The prevailing opinion on this site is usually that simple, tastefull, uniforms are the best. Outlandish designs, Oregon, the Fisherman Islanders jersey etc. are widely (though not universally) reviled.
    [/quote]

    The Fisherman jersey is awesome. Especially when I roll it out in public. :o)

  • Paul Lukas | August 15, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”132646″]I like how the NFL logo is cut off on the membership card pictured above. I am guessing this was intentional because if you did put it on 1) you do not have official league consent to place it on items 2) and if you did, that would perhaps make the membership card official NFL merchandise, and since the NFL is not getting a cut of any money, they might come and take Paul and execute him in one of three ways…[/quote]

    We showed a sliver of the NFL shield, and partial views of the flag and the neck bumper, because that’s what fell into the frame. If part of the fine-print warning decal had been in the area we were showcasing, we would have included that too. But we were, frankly, kinda relieved that it was too far to the right to be included.

    I like how these elements bleed off the edge — even though you only see a smidge of the NFL logo, you know what it is. Same with the Cowboys wordmark — your mind’s eye fills in the rest of it. Scott really outdid himself on this one.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 15, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    He actually has “worn” the shooting star uni

  • jesse | August 15, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”132704″][quote comment=”132680″]
    The prevailing opinion on this site is usually that simple, tastefull, uniforms are the best. Outlandish designs, Oregon, the Fisherman Islanders jersey etc. are widely (though not universally) reviled.
    [/quote]

    The Fisherman jersey is awesome. Especially when I roll it out in public. :o)[/quote]

    I think this is my point exactly. I hate that jersey. But if I had an authentic one, all of the strange details would be really neat, and I would like it a lot.

  • Hank | August 15, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    RE: Pig Iron mascot #26

    On the Periodic Chart (remember this from chemistry class? Buehler? Buehler?), the atomic number for iron is….26. Just a guess, but it makes sense. Reality will probably be something very mudane, like the day of the month the logo was created.

    Additionally, the teams colors Brick Red (PMS 187), Furnace Blue (PMS 282) and IronPigs Steel (Cool Grey 6 C) are colors of the old Bethlehem Steel mills.

    [ Logo/mascot: http://www.ironpigsb...

    Uniform info: http://www.ironpigsb... ]

  • tivonia | August 15, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    Great uniform moment in last night’s episode of “The Bronx is Burning” on ESPN. Billy Martin dressing for Game 5 of the ALCS and folding his pants under the tops of his stirrups and then taping the pants and stirrups to his legs. He even stops half way through the procedure to start over and make sure that the pants on both legs end at the exact same spot on the leg.

    A true committment to sartorial excellence! I wonder what he would think of today’s managers wearing warm up smocks instead of proper jerseys.

  • Ryan | August 15, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    The shooting star is considered the one from the 90’s. Also, this may the first time that the Astros have ever worn those since 1999.

  • Jason | August 15, 2007 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”132710″]RE: Pig Iron mascot #26

    On the Periodic Chart (remember this from chemistry class? Buehler? Buehler?), the atomic number for iron is….26. Just a guess, but it makes sense. Reality will probably be something very mudane, like the day of the month the logo was created.

    Additionally, the teams colors Brick Red (PMS 187), Furnace Blue (PMS 282) and IronPigs Steel (Cool Grey 6 C) are colors of the old Bethlehem Steel mills.

    [ Logo/mascot: http://www.ironpigsb...

    Uniform info: http://www.ironpigsb... ][/quote]

    Pretty cool connection, too bad the current color of Bethlehem Steel is RGB(183, 65, 14), a.k.a. “rust”.

  • todd krevanchi | August 15, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    pigs merch is up…
    hats and jerseys

  • Robb | August 15, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    I’m surprised the gentleman who visited the Victory Pennants site didn’t notice it, but Michigan once used a logo with a sailor’s cap as well:

    http://www.victorype...

    I only know this because Michigan State still uses in on their scoreboard in Spartan Stadium when reporting out-of-town scores. I think it’s done quite disparagingly, actually, which is fine with me (Go Green!).

  • tim | August 15, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”132671″]Here’s hoping that on the “gold star” jersey night, the Astros wear that hideous, putrid alternate cap that had the metallic gold brim.[/quote]

    Those hats were awesome

  • Mike | August 15, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing. Thought if I would find a quick answer why, it would be here.

  • stevesachs | August 15, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    I’m sure this has been discussed at some point, but Kevin Millar looks like a clown the way he puts on his eye black. Can anyone get a screen shot of this ocular tragedy?

  • Jeremy | August 15, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    Anybody want a “Jarimor Jagr” jersey?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Chad G | August 15, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    Paul,

    How come they didn’t recruit you for this trip?

    Glove designs have always intrigued me. We don’t talk about them enough here.

  • Chance | August 15, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”132618″]Back of the Helmet design. It seems that each new member is trying to out do each other with either a wacky design or some obscure team..[/quote]
    I’ve already decided what my design is going to be for next year….

  • chris | August 15, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”132715″]pigs merch is up…
    hats and jerseys[/quote]
    They should have at least positioned the jerseys so the team name is aligned bit better.

  • Gary | August 15, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”132715″]pigs merch is up…
    hats and jerseys[/quote]

    They have a merch storefront set up on Catasauqua Road, off of Airport. Thinking about heading over there now on my lunch break….

  • howie | August 15, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”132682″][quote comment=”132621″]I agree the card designs are moving into the “Hey, I can outdo that!” stage. The next level is a blank white card for the time before uniform numbers.[/quote]

    Well, actually, it would be more of an oatmeal-ish tone, because uniforms weren’t truly white back then.

    But if someone does want that, so what? I’m genuinely surprised by the amount of vitriol being directed at certain members. If you don’t like someone’s card design choice, well, OK, but exactly what bearing does it have on you? None. Are some people are trying to “outdo” each other with “obscure” design choices? Maybe, although I’d be careful about mind-reading — the guy who chose the San Diego Chicken design, e.g., is actually from San Diego and loves the Chicken. So his card is a genuine expression of a uni-related passion that’s important to him. But even if he was just trying to “out-do” everyone else (whatever that even means — there’s no rating, no score, etc.), so what?

    I’ve rejected lots of design requests for various reasons, so it’s not like we’re just rubber-stamping everyone’s application. And I assure you that the “obscure” ones are a lot more work for us, in terms of research and execution. I frankly think the Cowboys helmet treatment was a brilliant request. If you disagree, fine — but again, what exactly does it have to do with you anyway? Assuming you’re happy with your own card, isn’t that the only thing that really matters?

    Jeez.[/quote]
    As a member with a little buyer’s remorse, I have to admit that I thought about trying to outdo everyone! Never could come up with that unique design (I used the Whalers, circa 1990)- like the Cowgirl’s helmet! Personally, I doubt that one will be ” outdone” Until next year, by me!!! Maybe we should have a poll on our faves

  • howie | August 15, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    Oh, by the way, I am far too computer deficient to link my card. Or I would have!

  • Alex B | August 15, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    Interestingly, Sebastian the Ibis didn’t always have the sailor cap. Here, he wears a more conventional ballcap. The logo with the sailor cap came later in 1983. Eventually, Sebastian was cleaned up and got happy for a time before reverting back to a somewhat belligerent persona, albeit with an updated jersey.

    Which leads me to ask, have any other mascots (besides those based on Native Americans) been cleaned up image wise?

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”132630″]Lost in some of the baseball talk today was another ugly incident in minor-league ball last night.

    From the Associated Press:

    “BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) – Former major league all-star Jose Offerman was arrested Tuesday night after charging the mound and hitting the pitcher and catcher with his bat during an independent minor league game.

    Offerman, playing for the Long Island Ducks in the Atlantic League, homered in the first inning. The next inning, he was hit by a pitch from Bridgeport’s Matt Beech and charged the mound with his bat.

    Offerman hit Beech in the hands and struck catcher John Nathans in the head.”

    What the hell is wrong with Offerman? You take a bat out to the mound after getting beaned?[/quote]

    Just to update the situation, Offerman was charged with two counts of second-degree assault, and posted $10,000 for bail.

    Check out the picture.

  • Nicole | August 15, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”132650″]Did anyone get a good look at Johnny Estrada’s socks? I was there, but couldn’t tell if he was wearing Frank Robinson-style stirrups or the “stirrup-socks” he wears on off days pulled way high.[/quote]

    I don’t think there was any way they were real stirrups because there was SO MUCH white showing. They would have had to have had the longest stirrup portion known to man. You saw nothing but white from the bottom of his pants to his ankles on his calf and shin and a small strip of blue on the inside and outside. I’ll go back and see if I have a pic of him, though, for verification purposes.

    Also, thanks for the shoutout Elena!

  • Nicole | August 15, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”132696″][quote comment=”132682″]Well, actually, it would be more of an oatmeal-ish tone, because uniforms weren’t truly white back then.

    But if someone does want that, so what? I’m genuinely surprised by the amount of vitriol being directed at certain members. If you don’t like someone’s card design choice, well, OK, but exactly what bearing does it have on you? None. Are some people are trying to “outdo” each other with “obscure” design choices? Maybe, although I’d be careful about mind-reading — the guy who chose the San Diego Chicken design, e.g., is actually from San Diego and loves the Chicken. So his card is a genuine expression of a uni-related passion that’s important to him. But even if he was just trying to “out-do” everyone else (whatever that even means — there’s no rating, no score, etc.), so what?

    I’ve rejected lots of design requests for various reasons, so it’s not like we’re just rubber-stamping everyone’s application. And I assure you that the “obscure” ones are a lot more work for us, in terms of research and execution. I frankly think the Cowboys helmet treatment was a brilliant request. If you disagree, fine — but again, what exactly does it have to do with you anyway? Assuming you’re happy with your own card, isn’t that the only thing that really matters?

    Jeez.[/quote]

    I apologize for daring to make a comment on an obviously divisive issue. I know now that I should keep my opinions to myself.

    In other news, I loved the helmet design, and the chicken, and the guy who did the Bayern Muenchen design (it had a backstory at least). The oatmeal blank card would be pretty sweet actually.

    I don’t even know what to say.[/quote]

    The “guy” who did Bayern Munich was me. Not so much a guy. Just to be clear. But I’m glad you liked it!

  • seattle matt | August 15, 2007 at 2:19 pm |
  • Saru | August 15, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    A quick note about the Penn State pennant link, you forgot the NITTANY!

    “Lions” is only used when the “Penn State” is left off.

    Do the same rules apply for the Nittany Tide?

  • hofflalu | August 15, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    I was at the Cards-Brewers game last night, and yeah, that white outline on the Cardinals logo sure did look odd. I was sitting behind the plate, and I think it even stood out on the outfielders some 300-400 feet away.

    Other than that, though, it was still pretty cool to see powder blues in person for the first time in 21 years (last time I was at a game with a team wearing powder blues was a Twins-Brewers game in ’86). Here’s hoping the Brewers find some way to add their powder blues as, of, a “Retro Friday” road uniform.

  • DJ | August 15, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing. Thought if I would find a quick answer why, it would be here.

    I noticed that, too. Is there a ban on alcohol sponsorship of jerseys in France, perhaps?

  • Denis | August 15, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...

  • Josh | August 15, 2007 at 2:50 pm |

    The warm up jackets for the upcoming NBA season have been released.
    More templated crap from adidas with their three stripes prominently placed on the back of the neck.
    When will the NBA learn?
    Suns jacket

  • Jeff B | August 15, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”132747″]The warm up jackets for the upcoming NBA season have been released.
    More templated crap from adidas with their three stripes prominently placed on the back of the neck.
    When will the NBA learn?
    Suns jacket[/quote].

    At least the back doesn’t look like a sports bra like this year’s did.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.

  • Tom R | August 15, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...

    That is too sweet, and its nice to see him keeping with his own tradition of having his grandparents initials on the back of his helmet.

  • Ron | August 15, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”132752″][quote comment=”132747″]The warm up jackets for the upcoming NBA season have been released.
    More templated crap from adidas with their three stripes prominently placed on the back of the neck.
    When will the NBA learn?
    Suns jacket[/quote].

    At least the back doesn’t look like a sports bra like this year’s did.[/quote]
    Not too bad.

    I wished though that they go back to the warm-ups that Jordan wore or with Bird with the Celtics. I’m sure someone here can provide photos of these. Each team had their own designs of their warm-ups

  • Bryan | August 15, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...

    If only they could have painted over the RBK…regardless, that’s one of the best masks I’ve seen in a long time.

    My all time favorite mask? Brian Hayward seen here:

  • Bryan | August 15, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

  • Bryan | August 15, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    Ok, too dumb to post a link, but you can google it

  • Tom | August 15, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    Who came up with the name Iron Pigs?

    I do like Andre-Fleury’s new helmet though

  • Go Irish | August 15, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    Here’s Brian Hayward’s mask

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...
    It’ll look good on the ice. One question though,, did RBK actually create/design the mask, or did they just slap their signature on it. I don’t think RBK has enough knowledge/skill to create something like that in terms of safety.

  • Gary | August 15, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”132759″]Who came up with the name Iron Pigs?

    I do like Andre-Fleury’s new helmet though[/quote]

    Possible names were submitted through the local newspaper, and then the team owners narrowed it down to eight finalists that were then voted on. The finalists were – Crushers, Gobblers, Keystones, Phantastics, Phillies. Vulcans, Woodchucks and IronPigs. Looking back, Iron Pigs probably was the best choice…

  • Mike V | August 15, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...
    That is soooo wicked sweet. I can’t wait to look at that 41 times this year in person. Fluery, you my BOY!!!

  • Kerry | August 15, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    I’m still waiting for the moment when I will be able to support my college Alma Mater on a Uni Watch membership card. Until then, I will have to remain on the outside looking in.

  • Matthew S. | August 15, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”132692″][quote comment=”132594″]too bad they’ll only use the rainbow sleeves instead of these [/quote]

    Give the Astros credit for trying to go with authenticity. I’s pretty sure that the Astros stopped wearing the full-on striped uniform after Game 6 of the 1986 NCLS. They are at least focusing on the uniforms that Biggio actually wore. If they were in for crass marketing, they would toss in the Colts uni, or the shooting star uni.[/quote]

    1986 as indeed the last year that the Astros wore the full rainbow design (aside from the three or four times they’ve worn them as throwbacks since then). When Biggio came up to the majors, the Astros were in the process of switching from the pullover jersey to the button down.

    http://exhibits.base...

    So Biggio never actually wore the full tequila sunrise jersey outside of throwback games: http://images.chron....

    And Biggio did have a chance to wear the shooting star jersey from the late 1960s and early 70s in 1999, when the Astros wore them towards the end of the season as part of the festivities surrounding their last season in the Astrodome.

  • Matthew S. | August 15, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    And yes I know that’s Adam Everett in the picture and not actually Biggio.

  • Mike V | August 15, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”132763″][quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...
    That is soooo wicked sweet. I can’t wait to look at that 41 times this year in person. Fluery, you my BOY!!![/quote]
    By the way….DAMN YOU LOGO CREEP!!!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!

  • Jason G. | August 15, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]

    I think I have to disagree with you on this one. While I don’t really have any problem with the new logo, I absolutely love the first linked “cartoony” logo. I almost always like the more cartoony logos than more serious ones. Especially for minor league or college teams of any sport. I think logos in general have recently gone away from the cartoon look because they are designed on a computer as opposed to designed by hand.

  • Chris Sk | August 15, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”132710″]RE: Pig Iron mascot #26

    On the Periodic Chart (remember this from chemistry class? Buehler? Buehler?), the atomic number for iron is….26. Just a guess, but it makes sense. Reality will probably be something very mudane, like the day of the month the logo was created.

    Additionally, the teams colors Brick Red (PMS 187), Furnace Blue (PMS 282) and IronPigs Steel (Cool Grey 6 C) are colors of the old Bethlehem Steel mills.

    [ Logo/mascot: http://www.ironpigsb...

    Uniform info: http://www.ironpigsb... ][/quote]

    Thanks for the suggestions (not Earl too, don’t know how to quote 2 comments)

  • Mike V | August 15, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”132756″][quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...

    If only they could have painted over the RBK…regardless, that’s one of the best masks I’ve seen in a long time.

    My all time favorite mask? Brian Hayward seen here:
    [/quote]
    I have to say my favorite of all time is Gary Cheevers. I mean, how intimidating would that be to see that face as you are coming down the ice.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”132769″][quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]

    I think I have to disagree with you on this one. While I don’t really have any problem with the new logo, I absolutely love the first linked “cartoony” logo. I almost always like the more cartoony logos than more serious ones. Especially for minor league or college teams of any sport. I think logos in general have recently gone away from the cartoon look because they are designed on a computer as opposed to designed by hand.[/quote]
    I linked them in reverse chronological order. The one on “cartoony” is our current logo, the one on “logos” is our original ECHL logo. I like the first one w/ the orange and blue. I think the red/blue that we currently use (or last year I should say) is over the top cartoony. Plus, Chubby (the mascot) has a mullet which is not really cool. :D

  • Matt B | August 15, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing.

    Because competing brewer Heineken is a UEFA CL Sponsor?

  • Matt B | August 15, 2007 at 3:50 pm |

    >Because competing brewer Heineken is a UEFA CL Sponsor?

    Hmm. Didn’t stop ’em from sporting Carlsberg in years past….

  • Jason G. | August 15, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”132774″][quote comment=”132769″][quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]

    I think I have to disagree with you on this one. While I don’t really have any problem with the new logo, I absolutely love the first linked “cartoony” logo. I almost always like the more cartoony logos than more serious ones. Especially for minor league or college teams of any sport. I think logos in general have recently gone away from the cartoon look because they are designed on a computer as opposed to designed by hand.[/quote]
    I linked them in reverse chronological order. The one on “cartoony” is our current logo, the one on “logos” is our original ECHL logo. I like the first one w/ the orange and blue. I think the red/blue that we currently use (or last year I should say) is over the top cartoony. Plus, Chubby (the mascot) has a mullet which is not really cool. :D[/quote]

    I like ’em all, I just like the mullet one more. By the way, does the name Checkers have anything to do with polar bears or is that just the mascot they chose?

  • Banker Bill | August 15, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”132774″][quote comment=”132769″][quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]

    I think I have to disagree with you on this one. While I don’t really have any problem with the new logo, I absolutely love the first linked “cartoony” logo. I almost always like the more cartoony logos than more serious ones. Especially for minor league or college teams of any sport. I think logos in general have recently gone away from the cartoon look because they are designed on a computer as opposed to designed by hand.[/quote]
    I linked them in reverse chronological order. The one on “cartoony” is our current logo, the one on “logos” is our original ECHL logo. I like the first one w/ the orange and blue. I think the red/blue that we currently use (or last year I should say) is over the top cartoony. Plus, Chubby (the mascot) has a mullet which is not really cool. :D[/quote]

    Liking the new logos a lot – and I like the color scheme – goes with the rest of the Rangers colors (Hartford has the same colors as well.)

    Interesting though – which franchise has the best logo chain throughout their major and minor league afiiliations? Discuss…

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”132777″][quote comment=”132774″][quote comment=”132769″][quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]

    I think I have to disagree with you on this one. While I don’t really have any problem with the new logo, I absolutely love the first linked “cartoony” logo. I almost always like the more cartoony logos than more serious ones. Especially for minor league or college teams of any sport. I think logos in general have recently gone away from the cartoon look because they are designed on a computer as opposed to designed by hand.[/quote]
    I linked them in reverse chronological order. The one on “cartoony” is our current logo, the one on “logos” is our original ECHL logo. I like the first one w/ the orange and blue. I think the red/blue that we currently use (or last year I should say) is over the top cartoony. Plus, Chubby (the mascot) has a mullet which is not really cool. :D[/quote]

    I like ’em all, I just like the mullet one more. By the way, does the name Checkers have anything to do with polar bears or is that just the mascot they chose?[/quote]
    Weird. I thought polar bears preferred chess.

  • CJ | August 15, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”132738″]The “guy” who did Bayern Munich was me. Not so much a guy. Just to be clear. But I’m glad you liked it![/quote]

    Of course I meant it in a general person sense. . .

    Right? :)

    I was thinking of doing their uni when I get my membership, but I could never finalize the number I would get. 11? 13? 18? 21? 5? 9?

    Too many favorite players to cover.

    I also like the fact that you explained it a little in the gallery. I wish more people would do that.

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    I checked out the RBK Edge Uniform site for the first time, it’s pretty cool, there is a couple of clips of the jerseys getting made (the All Star jerseys). In one interview, there is a good 5-10 seconds view of a new RBK Rangers jersey in the backround, and behind is another newly made jersey, but I couldn’t make it out to which team it was, check it out. My work computer has no sound, so I have no idea what was said in the interviews with the ‘engineers’..

  • todd krevanchi | August 15, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    just got back from the iron pigs merch store.
    spoke with the merchandise guy for a bit.
    the 26 on the swinging pig is most definitely for the atomic number of iron.

    also,
    jersey’s are currently being sold with numbers 6, 8, 11, and 26. the numbers were selected based on the sales of phillies jerseys/t shirts and whose sells the most. i guess victorino is outselling burrell.

  • Johnny O | August 15, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    I don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but I found a picture of Bucky Badger in a sailor hat. It is really hard to see, but it is on the left side of this t-shirt. Underneath it says “1940”. I have done a lot of searchign for a better picture but I can’t. At least I found out Bucky did wear a sailor hat (which I thought was the case when this issue came up last December)

    Bucky in sailor hat

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    ..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!!

  • Johnny O | August 15, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    Looking at the same website, I found this sweet picture of an Old School Bucky logo for the Wisconsin boxing team (the sport in which the Badgers have the most national titles in)

    Old School Bucky boxer

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”132782″]I checked out the RBK Edge Uniform site for the first time, it’s pretty cool, there is a couple of clips of the jerseys getting made (the All Star jerseys). In one interview, there is a good 5-10 seconds view of a new RBK Rangers jersey in the backround, and behind is another newly made jersey, but I couldn’t make it out to which team it was, check it out. My work computer has no sound, so I have no idea what was said in the interviews with the ‘engineers’..[/quote]

    It appears to be the same red-and-gray collar of the All-Star uniform.

  • seven | August 15, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    –I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing.

    Because competing brewer Heineken is a UEFA CL Sponsor? —

    More likely because of restrictions against alcohol advertising.

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”132788″][quote comment=”132782″]I checked out the RBK Edge Uniform site for the first time, it’s pretty cool, there is a couple of clips of the jerseys getting made (the All Star jerseys). In one interview, there is a good 5-10 seconds view of a new RBK Rangers jersey in the backround, and behind is another newly made jersey, but I couldn’t make it out to which team it was, check it out. My work computer has no sound, so I have no idea what was said in the interviews with the ‘engineers’..[/quote]

    It appears to be the same red-and-gray collar of the All-Star uniform.[/quote]
    eh Teebz,
    did you try and click the ‘latest updates’ link? what a tease,,,f’ers.

  • rc | August 15, 2007 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”132743″]I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing. Thought if I would find a quick answer why, it would be here.

    I noticed that, too. Is there a ban on alcohol sponsorship of jerseys in France, perhaps?[/quote]

    Bingo.

  • Big O | August 15, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”132783″]just got back from the iron pigs merch store.
    spoke with the merchandise guy for a bit.
    the 26 on the swinging pig is most definitely for the atomic number of iron.

    also,
    jersey’s are currently being sold with numbers 6, 8, 11, and 26. the numbers were selected based on the sales of phillies jerseys/t shirts and whose sells the most. i guess victorino is outselling burrell.[/quote]

    The Aberdeen Ironbirds first mascot (Ferrous) has the number 26 on his sleeve for the same reason.

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”132790″][quote comment=”132788″][quote comment=”132782″]I checked out the RBK Edge Uniform site for the first time, it’s pretty cool, there is a couple of clips of the jerseys getting made (the All Star jerseys). In one interview, there is a good 5-10 seconds view of a new RBK Rangers jersey in the backround, and behind is another newly made jersey, but I couldn’t make it out to which team it was, check it out. My work computer has no sound, so I have no idea what was said in the interviews with the ‘engineers’..[/quote]

    It appears to be the same red-and-gray collar of the All-Star uniform.[/quote]
    eh Teebz,
    did you try and click the ‘latest updates’ link? what a tease,,,f’ers.[/quote]

    I saw the link, and then the “coming soon” appears when you mouse over it. Jerks. :o)

    I guess Reebok doesn’t want to give anything away. You’d think they’d have a full rundown of those teams who have already unveiled their jerseys.

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”132793″][quote comment=”132790″][quote comment=”132788″][quote comment=”132782″]I checked out the RBK Edge Uniform site for the first time, it’s pretty cool, there is a couple of clips of the jerseys getting made (the All Star jerseys). In one interview, there is a good 5-10 seconds view of a new RBK Rangers jersey in the backround, and behind is another newly made jersey, but I couldn’t make it out to which team it was, check it out. My work computer has no sound, so I have no idea what was said in the interviews with the ‘engineers’..[/quote]

    It appears to be the same red-and-gray collar of the All-Star uniform.[/quote]
    eh Teebz,
    did you try and click the ‘latest updates’ link? what a tease,,,f’ers.[/quote]

    I saw the link, and then the “coming soon” appears when you mouse over it. Jerks. :o)

    I guess Reebok doesn’t want to give anything away. You’d think they’d have a full rundown of those teams who have already unveiled their jerseys.[/quote]
    100% in agreement. sons of b*****s. they oughta be sleeping with da fishes..hahaha

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[quote comment=”132777″][quote comment=”132774″][quote comment=”132769″][quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]

    I think I have to disagree with you on this one. While I don’t really have any problem with the new logo, I absolutely love the first linked “cartoony” logo. I almost always like the more cartoony logos than more serious ones. Especially for minor league or college teams of any sport. I think logos in general have recently gone away from the cartoon look because they are designed on a computer as opposed to designed by hand.[/quote]
    I linked them in reverse chronological order. The one on “cartoony” is our current logo, the one on “logos” is our original ECHL logo. I like the first one w/ the orange and blue. I think the red/blue that we currently use (or last year I should say) is over the top cartoony. Plus, Chubby (the mascot) has a mullet which is not really cool. :D[/quote]

    I like ’em all, I just like the mullet one more. By the way, does the name Checkers have anything to do with polar bears or is that just the mascot they chose?[/quote]
    Quick history:
    In early 1956 the EHL Baltimore Clippers’ arena burned to the ground. They moved to Charlotte and kept the nickname. In 58 they won the championship and in 60 they changed to the Charlotte Checkers. I’ve heard there were two reasons. First is obviously the checking aspect of hockey. Secondly, in 1955 Charlotte built the largest domed structure in the world, the Charlotte Coliseum. Chubby Checker opened the arena and was very popular at the time. I’ve heard it was both, I’ve heard it was a combo of the two. By 1977 the EHL had split into 2 leagues and we were in the SHL. The SHL folded midseaon 76-77. We were resurrected in 93 in the ECHL and that’s when they started using the bear. I don’t know why they chose a bear.

    Incidentally, the Clippers moving to Charlotte was the first time a pro hockey league experimented south of DC. With the success we had in the late 50s and early 70s, hockey in the south was born.

  • Dan | August 15, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    Paul, you keep telling us that you have rejected many card designs. You think you could write a blog or a little blurp talking about the some of the rejected designs and why they were rejected? Maybe some of the craziest designs rejected?

  • Banker Bill | August 15, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car!

  • Jeff | August 15, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    There sure is a lot angst about people trying to “outdo” each other with their membership cards. I may be going out on a limb here, but aren’t unique cards far superior to the disastrous templates that some people favor?

    Keep the unique designs comin’ people…

    (Which reminds me, I need to get a membership)

  • Broker75 | August 15, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??!

  • JT_Dutch | August 15, 2007 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”132766″]1986 is indeed the last year that the Astros wore the full rainbow design (aside from the three or four times they’ve worn them as throwbacks since then).[/quote]

    … If I remember correctly, I was listening to Vin Scully during a late 80s broadcast saying that the reason why the Astros stopped wearing the full rainbow design is because the players felt the umpires were calling a higher strike on Astro hitters; in effect, umpires were basing the top of the strike zone at the top of the rainbow design.

    I wonder if any long-time Astro fans can verify that; it sounds reasonable to me, actually.

  • Jeff | August 15, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”132803″][quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??![/quote]

    Is it in pesos?

  • Anthony Verna | August 15, 2007 at 4:43 pm |

    quote comment=”132743″]I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing. Thought if I would find a quick answer why, it would be here.

    I noticed that, too. Is there a ban on alcohol sponsorship of jerseys in France, perhaps?[/quote]

    Correct.

    The Welsh Rugby team is sponsored by Brains – a brewery in Cardiff, I think.

    But when they go into France, they slap BRAWN across their jersey.

  • Timmer | August 15, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    Apparently the St. Lucie Mets’ (Single A) caps have orange underbills. Hadn’t seen that one before.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”132803″][quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??![/quote]
    That’s actually a fairly reasonable price for a Nords Sakic. He started with a different number (81?) in Quebec and those are worth much more.

  • Ben | August 15, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    Gold Astros Cap
    http://item.express....

  • Chad G | August 15, 2007 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”132808″]Apparently the St. Lucie Mets’ (Single A) caps have orange underbills. Hadn’t seen that one before.[/quote]

    Just to clarify, that cap is for the Gulf Coast Mets which is Rookie ball. That’s who Pedro pitched for yesterday. His first start was with the St. Lucie Mets and they wear these caps. Specifically he wore the black one with the blue brim in that start.

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”132811″][quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    Gold Astros Cap
    http://item.express....
    I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”132810″][quote comment=”132803″][quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??![/quote]
    That’s actually a fairly reasonable price for a Nords Sakic. He started with a different number (81?) in Quebec and those are worth much more.[/quote]

    He wore both 8 and 88 in his rookie year.

    In terms of another jersey you rarely see, Francis won the Cup in 1991 with the Penguins wearing #9. I have only seen one person with a properly-customized #9 Francis jersey.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”132815″][quote comment=”132810″][quote comment=”132803″][quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??![/quote]
    That’s actually a fairly reasonable price for a Nords Sakic. He started with a different number (81?) in Quebec and those are worth much more.[/quote]

    He wore both 8 and 88 in his rookie year.

    In terms of another jersey you rarely see, Francis won the Cup in 1991 with the Penguins wearing #9. I have only seen one person with a properly-customized #9 Francis jersey.[/quote]
    I thought it was 88, but didn’t remember if I was getting him confused with a Lindros jersey I’ve seen. Teebz, are you a game worn collector?

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”132819″][quote comment=”132815″][quote comment=”132810″][quote comment=”132803″][quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??![/quote]
    That’s actually a fairly reasonable price for a Nords Sakic. He started with a different number (81?) in Quebec and those are worth much more.[/quote]

    He wore both 8 and 88 in his rookie year.

    In terms of another jersey you rarely see, Francis won the Cup in 1991 with the Penguins wearing #9. I have only seen one person with a properly-customized #9 Francis jersey.[/quote]
    I thought it was 88, but didn’t remember if I was getting him confused with a Lindros jersey I’ve seen. Teebz, are you a game worn collector?[/quote]

    I would be if I could afford it on my modest salary. :o)

  • Timmer | August 15, 2007 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”132813″][quote comment=”132808″]Apparently the St. Lucie Mets’ (Single A) caps have orange underbills. Hadn’t seen that one before.[/quote]

    Just to clarify, that cap is for the Gulf Coast Mets which is Rookie ball. That’s who Pedro pitched for yesterday. His first start was with the St. Lucie Mets and they wear these caps. Specifically he wore the black one with the blue brim in that start.[/quote]
    You’re right, my mistake.

  • BS | August 15, 2007 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”132768″][quote comment=”132763″][quote comment=”132745″]Marc Andre-Fluery’s new helmet design:
    http://bp2.blogger.c...
    That is soooo wicked sweet. I can’t wait to look at that 41 times this year in person. Fluery, you my BOY!!![/quote]
    By the way….DAMN YOU LOGO CREEP!!!! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!![/quote]
    It’s just a hockey mask, calm down. It’s not like more than 50 people will see it at any given moment.

  • Sebastian | August 15, 2007 at 5:36 pm |

    The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys

  • Brian | August 15, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”132804″][quote comment=”132766″]1986 is indeed the last year that the Astros wore the full rainbow design (aside from the three or four times they’ve worn them as throwbacks since then).[/quote]

    … If I remember correctly, I was listening to Vin Scully during a late 80s broadcast saying that the reason why the Astros stopped wearing the full rainbow design is because the players felt the umpires were calling a higher strike on Astro hitters; in effect, umpires were basing the top of the strike zone at the top of the rainbow design.

    I wonder if any long-time Astro fans can verify that; it sounds reasonable to me, actually.[/quote]

    I ahve heard this before, but I am not sure if that is the reason.

  • Jason G. | August 15, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.

  • Sebastian | August 15, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”132826″][quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.[/quote]

    It’s the fight strap

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”132826″][quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.[/quote]

    Fighting strap. Very poor job done on these jerseys.

    In regards to the captain’s C and alternate captain’s A being moved, this statement pisses me off like no other:

    “The letters had to be moved because the new jerseys are made of multiple panels, and there wasn’t room for them above the tip of the Winged Wheel on the left side without hitting a seam. And if you look at some old Wings photos, that’s actually been done before, too.”

    There wasn’t room? you sacrifice aesthetics for a frigging seam? Nice job, Reebok. Maybe you could hire a few more monkeys for your design team?

  • JM Rempt | August 15, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”132814″][quote comment=”132811″][quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    Gold Astros Cap
    http://item.express....
    I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?[/quote]

    unless they have a sleeve patch with one, I don’t think the current Rangers uniforms have a star on them.

  • Mike | August 15, 2007 at 5:54 pm |

    Cool Item listed on Ebay for any Phillies fans

  • JM Rempt | August 15, 2007 at 5:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”132832″][quote comment=”132814″][quote comment=”132811″][quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    Gold Astros Cap
    http://item.express....
    I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?[/quote]

    unless they have a sleeve patch with one, I don’t think the current Rangers uniforms have a star on them.[/quote]

    Never mind, they have the texas state flag as a sleeve patch. However, the Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets both lack a star on their uniforms.

  • Mike | August 15, 2007 at 5:54 pm |

    oops, here is the link

  • RefUni | August 15, 2007 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”132783″]just got back from the iron pigs merch store.
    spoke with the merchandise guy for a bit.
    the 26 on the swinging pig is most definitely for the atomic number of iron.

    also,
    jersey’s are currently being sold with numbers 6, 8, 11, and 26. the numbers were selected based on the sales of phillies jerseys/t shirts and whose sells the most. i guess victorino is outselling burrell.[/quote]

    Currently, on the team that will become the Iron Pigs, those numbers belong to:

    6 Joe Thurston 2B
    8 Unassigned
    11 Carlos Leon SS
    26 Dusty Wathan C

    source…www.ottawalynx.com

  • Luther Mahoney | August 15, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    Tonight is the Old Time Baseball Game in Cambridge,Massachusetts. Check out the website
    http://www.oldtimeba...

  • DW in Tampa Bay | August 15, 2007 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”132604″]Does anybody know the significance of the “26” on the “Swinging Pig” seems odd they would use an actually jersey number on the design. Plus shouldn’t the pig have the swinging pig patch on its sleeve? I guess that would have cause and infinite progression (is that the right word?)problem.

    Swinging Pig[/quote]

    It may be like the Cincinnati Reds 1970s Mr. Red wore #27 on the logo and the mascot’s jersey that wandered Riverfront Stadium.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 6:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”132836″]oops, here is the link[/quote]
    As a Braves fan named Campbell, I find it appalling that they would accuse the Campbell Kids of associating with such a franchise! LOL

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”132835″][quote comment=”132832″][quote comment=”132814″][quote comment=”132811″][quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    Gold Astros Cap
    http://item.express....
    I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?[/quote]

    unless they have a sleeve patch with one, I don’t think the current Rangers uniforms have a star on them.[/quote]

    Never mind, they have the texas state flag as a sleeve patch. However, the Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets both lack a star on their uniforms.[/quote]
    Mavericks definitely DO have a star on their uniform and logo. The star is on the back of the neck above the names. Rockets, probably not.

  • Sebastian | August 15, 2007 at 6:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”132831″][quote comment=”132826″][quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.[/quote]

    Fighting strap. Very poor job done on these jerseys.

    In regards to the captain’s C and alternate captain’s A being moved, this statement pisses me off like no other:

    “The letters had to be moved because the new jerseys are made of multiple panels, and there wasn’t room for them above the tip of the Winged Wheel on the left side without hitting a seam. And if you look at some old Wings photos, that’s actually been done before, too.”

    There wasn’t room? you sacrifice aesthetics for a frigging seam? Nice job, Reebok. Maybe you could hire a few more monkeys for your design team?[/quote]

    And if you look closely at the captain’s C, it looks like there is a seam running through the top of it anyway. I guess they didn’t want to split the entire letter in half or something with it being on the other side.

  • DW in Tampa Bay | August 15, 2007 at 6:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”132662″][quote comment=”132646″]…they might come and take Paul and execute him in one of three ways

    1. Take him and put him in a club with Pacman Jones, where they will force Paul to try and pick up Pacman’s money that he just made it rain with.

    2. Take Paul and dump him in a fight pit in the back of Michael Vick’s house.

    3. Take Paul and have him spend a night with the Cincinnati Bengals.[/quote]

    4. Make Paul attend the Falcons-Cardinals game on Dec. 23.[/quote]

    Or, make Paul attend a Vikings-Ravens football game.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 15, 2007 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”132811″][quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    Gold Astros Cap
    http://item.express....

    Wow! Being from Houston, I consider myself lucky to say I don’t ever remeber seeing that ballcap! Of course, I did slightly abandon the team when they went navy and gold…

  • Alan #44 | August 15, 2007 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”132711″]Great uniform moment in last night’s episode of “The Bronx is Burning” on ESPN. Billy Martin dressing for Game 5 of the ALCS and folding his pants under the tops of his stirrups and then taping the pants and stirrups to his legs. He even stops half way through the procedure to start over and make sure that the pants on both legs end at the exact same spot on the leg.

    A true committment to sartorial excellence! I wonder what he would think of today’s managers wearing warm up smocks instead of proper jerseys.[/quote]
    I agree, That was awesome. But something still looks wrong with Reggie’s strirrups.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 15, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    Nice job! No puppet strings!

  • Jason G. | August 15, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”132828″][quote comment=”132826″][quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.[/quote]

    It’s the fight strap[/quote]

    OK, I’ve never known what a fight strap is. I’ve heard the term but had no idea what they are for. After seeing this I’m assuming they are to keep your jersey from being pulled over your head in a fight. Is that correct or am I way off?

  • Mitch | August 15, 2007 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”132815″][quote comment=”132810″][quote comment=”132803″][quote comment=”132797″][quote comment=”132786″]..look at this be careful not to hit the “Add To Cart” button!!![/quote]

    Wow – sweet jersey – but I would never pay more for a sweater than I did for my first car![/quote]
    crazy eh? Actually that price is more than my first car too. insane. Why is it so much??![/quote]
    That’s actually a fairly reasonable price for a Nords Sakic. He started with a different number (81?) in Quebec and those are worth much more.[/quote]

    He wore both 8 and 88 in his rookie year.

    In terms of another jersey you rarely see, Francis won the Cup in 1991 with the Penguins wearing #9. I have only seen one person with a properly-customized #9 Francis jersey.[/quote]
    Is that Sakic jersey game worn? Good grief that is alot of money.

  • Aaron Scholder | August 15, 2007 at 6:57 pm |

    Heres an interesting eBay item:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Teebz | August 15, 2007 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”132850″][quote comment=”132828″][quote comment=”132826″][quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.[/quote]

    It’s the fight strap[/quote]

    OK, I’ve never known what a fight strap is. I’ve heard the term but had no idea what they are for. After seeing this I’m assuming they are to keep your jersey from being pulled over your head in a fight. Is that correct or am I way off?[/quote]

    You got it. The strap attaches to a loop on the pants so that the jersey can’t be pulled over your head.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 7:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”132753″]My hometown ECHL Charlotte Checkers have released their new and 15th anniversary logos. As a long time season ticket holder, I could not be more excited about these. So much better than the old cartoony logos.[/quote]
    Apparently I jumped the gun on the announcement of some of the logos I posted earlier, so I pulled them down. Here is what has been released.

  • possum | August 15, 2007 at 7:08 pm |

    OK the picture is still there. Let’s pretend we don’t see it.

    The Sakic is game worn, as are all jerseys Meigray sells.

  • Luca | August 15, 2007 at 7:19 pm |

    The Diamondbacks are wearing their red jerseys, which are only supposed to be worn on Tuesday and Sunday. Probably because they don’t have grey Cool Base unis.

  • Dave A | August 15, 2007 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”132739″]Logo Creep …. In …. Space ….[/quote]

    Whew, for a minute there, I thought you were talking about this.

  • Dave A | August 15, 2007 at 7:42 pm |

    In the past, there have been a number of links to sites with steps to customize the old wool 5950’s to fit one’s melon.

    Here’s a link to shrinking the new poly ones. A little drastic in my estimation, but chacun à son goût.

  • PattyB23 | August 15, 2007 at 7:45 pm |

    Re: The Liverpool shirts today. Could this have something to do with it:

    http://www.liverpool...

  • Ben63 | August 15, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    Could someone please take that Oregon jersey off the College Jeresy ad!!

  • E Ro | August 15, 2007 at 8:37 pm |

    The redwings C used to be on the right shoulder back in the 50’s..

    I’m ok with the sweater, except i want to straighten out that bottom with a papercutter.

    I wonder what goalies will look like in these things…

  • John Baranowski | August 15, 2007 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”132831″][quote comment=”132826″][quote comment=”132824″]The Red Wings just unveiled their new jerseys[/quote]

    What’s up with the weird spot at the bottom of the 5? Looks like something sewn to the inside of the jersey.[/quote]

    Fighting strap. Very poor job done on these jerseys.

    In regards to the captain’s C and alternate captain’s A being moved, this statement pisses me off like no other:

    “The letters had to be moved because the new jerseys are made of multiple panels, and there wasn’t room for them above the tip of the Winged Wheel on the left side without hitting a seam. And if you look at some old Wings photos, that’s actually been done before, too.”

    There wasn’t room? you sacrifice aesthetics for a frigging seam? Nice job, Reebok. Maybe you could hire a few more monkeys for your design team?[/quote]

    seams didn’t affect jerseys before, two pics (sorry for the blur, bad camera
    + glass = crappy) of 1967 jerseys, pens and blues, check the numbers on the shoulder seams
    http://i23.photobuck...
    http://i23.photobuck...

    but i’m really glad that the article went out of their way to justify historically that the C movement isn’t new, because i’m sure many people in detroit flipped out when seeing that.

    “And if you look at some old Wings photos — Ted Lindsay, for example — it’s actually been done that way before, too.”

    http://www.markreube... ted lindsay

    and hopefully the white is no different than before (except collar and rounded bottom, of course)

  • Jason G. | August 15, 2007 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”132863″]In the past, there have been a number of links to sites with steps to customize the old wool 5950’s to fit one’s melon.

    Here’s a link to shrinking the new poly ones. A little drastic in my estimation, but chacun à son goût.[/quote]

    I wore mine to a softball practice (I’ve given up on it looking not goofy enough to wear elsewhere) where it got soaked with sweat. I then left in my car all day in the 90 degree heat. The circumference of the hat shrunk but the crown is still too big. This also made the hat really stiff. I’d say the process on that page would work, but that’s a lot of trouble to go through.

  • ja | August 15, 2007 at 9:59 pm |

    dbacks/marlins tonight…hp umpire rob drake (a minor league replacement/vacation guy) just got hit on the knee with a fastball…so we get some close ups of him and i see he has an adjustable hat–not fitted. has the mlb logo above the adjustment strap. has this been covered somewhere before?

  • Lutter | August 15, 2007 at 10:19 pm |

    Watching the Rockies game and I know it has been mentioned before but Ubaldo Jimenez does have his stirrups on backwards. Somebody tell this kid how to wear them the right way! At least he is wearing them though.

  • StevieW | August 15, 2007 at 10:28 pm |

    Also on “The Bronx is Burning” Reggie Jackson is consistently depicted with the opposite batting helmet ear flap. They shown him as a left handed batter, which is right, with a left ear flap, which is backward. In addition to that, I think they were wearing flapless helmets in 1977 anyway?

  • Pete | August 15, 2007 at 10:59 pm |

    I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?

    Is there a star featured on the Spurs’ uniform?

  • Pete | August 15, 2007 at 11:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”132712″][quote comment=”132666″]So in the write-up about Biggio, he says he prefers the “shooting star” jersey.

    If I’m not mistaken, that’s the jersey the Astros wore before they switched to the rainbows in the 70s. He never wore it, but he prefers that look.

    That should tell Astros management all they need to know about their uniform mistakes…er, choices over the years.[/quote]

    The shooting star is considered the one from the 90’s. Also, this may the first time that the Astros have ever worn those since 1999.[/quote]

    No it’s not. The shooting star is the one from the late 60s/early 70s, with a star on the left shoulder and three lines depicting its movement…hence, “shooting star.”

    The navy/gold star jersey is usually just referred to as the “navy/gold star jersey.” Or in some places, “that thing.”

  • Stuby | August 15, 2007 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”132887″]Also on “The Bronx is Burning” Reggie Jackson is consistently depicted with the opposite batting helmet ear flap. They shown him as a left handed batter, which is right, with a left ear flap, which is backward. In addition to that, I think they were wearing flapless helmets in 1977 anyway?[/quote]
    Reggie, at least, wore a no-flapper his entire career. Single flappers were quite common in 1977, though.

  • JM Rempt | August 15, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”132892″]I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?

    Is there a star featured on the Spurs’ uniform?[/quote]

    Only if you count the spur itself as forming a star. Which you could make an argument for.

    The MLS Houston Dynamo and FC Dallas are more or less star-free, though there is a star present in their crests.

  • chris | August 15, 2007 at 11:53 pm |

    cub’s pitching coach larry rothschild seems to be wearing stirrups this evening and with the pants resting 6 inches or so above the ankle.

  • Steve Prudente | August 16, 2007 at 12:09 am |

    Shane Victorino is rehabbing with the Reading Phillies this week, and I was sent to cover his first game last night for the tv station I work for. I haven’t gotten my photos back yet, but I noticed that he was wearing his major league Phillies jersey because his name was directly sewn onto the jersey, as opposed to the nameplates like the AA phillies use (which additionally are in a different font). Also, he wore his regular number (8) which looked a little odd when he and Greg Jacobs were standing together in warmups (Jacobs regularly wears #8 for the R-Phils). He also wore his double-flap batting helmet. I will try to have the photos tommorow.

  • Kyle O from VA | August 16, 2007 at 12:39 am |

    [quote comment=”132718″]I just noticed that in today’s Liverpool Champions League match, the reds’ jerseys had the Carlsberg sponsor logo missing. Thought if I would find a quick answer why, it would be here.[/quote]

    It is because Liverpool was playing Tolouse in the Champions League, and the French government has a ban against alcohol or tobacco sponsors on athletic clubs.

    In addition, here’s another weird Champions League rule. If two teams have the same sponsor, only one is allowed to wear it – which means the other team has to go blank or substitute it with another logo. This link from ’97 has an interesting story about a team wearing “organ donor” shirts because both clubs were sponsored by Opel.

  • furrymunsters | August 16, 2007 at 1:23 am |

    [quote comment=”132720″]Anybody want a “Jarimor Jagr” jersey?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    That shirt is a piece of shit

  • John Baranowski | August 16, 2007 at 2:10 am |

    i know it’s late so i’ll probably end up reposting this tomorrow if it isn’t in the ticker.

    NEW ISLANDERS JERSEY
    http://www.newsday.c...
    other than the number on the front, i actually like it

  • JM Rempt | August 16, 2007 at 4:15 am |

    [quote comment=”132925″]i know it’s late so i’ll probably end up reposting this tomorrow if it isn’t in the ticker.

    NEW ISLANDERS JERSEY
    http://www.newsday.c...
    other than the number on the front, i actually like it[/quote]
    its better than most of the new NHL jerseys, but I hate that shoulder pad look. the Kings have that on their new uni’s too. Bugs the hell out of me.

  • Stuby | August 16, 2007 at 7:22 am |

    [quote comment=”132897″][quote comment=”132892″]I know this is revisiting yesterday’s Texas discussion, but is it a state law for a star to appear somewhere on the uniform of every professional sports teams in the state?

    Is there a star featured on the Spurs’ uniform?[/quote]

    Only if you count the spur itself as forming a star. Which you could make an argument for.

    The MLS Houston Dynamo and FC Dallas are more or less star-free, though there is a star present in their crests.[/quote]
    But the crest is worn on the jersey, so I’m counting it. If you do count the Spur as a star, then the Rockets are the only team without. Surely there was a star or two hidden on those striped cartoon uniforms of a few years ago.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 16, 2007 at 8:26 am |

    [quote comment=”132942″][quote comment=”132925″]i know it’s late so i’ll probably end up reposting this tomorrow if it isn’t in the ticker.

    NEW ISLANDERS JERSEY
    http://www.newsday.c...
    other than the number on the front, i actually like it[/quote]
    its better than most of the new NHL jerseys, but I hate that shoulder pad look. the Kings have that on their new uni’s too. Bugs the hell out of me.[/quote]
    I actually like the faux lace-up collar, but the rest is kinda….eh…..coulda been worse