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There’s Gotta Be a Better Way to Hide the Pit Stains

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Uni Watch has written several times about the annoying stretch gussets in MLB’s new Cool Base jerseys. But that’s nothing compared to the black underarm gussets being showcased by Georgia in the College World Series. Like a horrific car wreck that you can’t stop staring at, the design is sort of addictively nauseating (or is it nauseatingly addictive?). And now that the Bulldogs have earned one of the final berths in the CWS, we’ll probably see more of it.

And who’s behind this stroke of design genius? Guess.

Speaking of the Georgia unis: Anyone else think it’s a little weird to see the same “G” logo from UGA’s football helmet appearing on the school’s baseball cap? It’s true that lots of schools do this (including another CWS team, Miami [which really needs to lose that pant-leg logo]), and cross-sport consistency is an admirable goal, but the Georgia “G” is different, because it was specifically conceived as a football logo — in fact, the rights to it are owned by the Green Bay Packers. So it’s odd to see it on a baseball cap.

Meanwhile, in another College World Series tidbit: What’s that logo on Rice’s rear belt loop (also visible here )?

Uni Watch Book Club: Reader Kevin Zdancewicz checks in with news of a new book that should be of interest to everyone reading this: Now Batting, Number… : The Mystique, Superstition, and Lore of Baseball’s Uniform Numbers, by Jack Looney. Uni Watch hasn’t yet procured a copy, but it looks v-e-r-y promising. Full report to follow soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: In a major uni-related tragedy, the minor league Danbury Trashers — who had the coolest hockey logo ever — are now in limbo due to their owner’s mob-related racketeering indictment (he worked in “waste management,” just like Tony Soprano — hence the team’s name). … Good catch by James Huening, who writes: “I noticed during Saturday night’s Cubs/Reds game on that Aramis Ramirez didn’t have a left-sleeve patch like everyone else. It reminded me of 2003, when he first joined the Cubs and his blue alternate jersey had the National League patch on the left sleeve, instead of on the right. … Helmet Hut, the premiere source for vintage football helmet info and authentic reproductions, has come out with an awesome line of WFL helmets. … Great article here (you may have to register, but it’s free) about the Institute of Heraldry, which designs all the logos and seals for Federal agencies. … Some of the Twins wore flag cap patches last night, in honor of Flag Day. … Hosiery Alert!: Matt Dubroff notes that France’s Zinedine Zidane appears to be wearing stirrups. … Sick of the World Cup yet, or never cared to begin with? Although not safe for work (if your boss is around, don’t click), this uni gallery should rekindle your interest (with thanks to Ed Walsh).

 

50 comments to There’s Gotta Be a Better Way to Hide the Pit Stains

  • Andy Head | June 15, 2006 at 9:08 am |

    Pretty sure that is Rice’s Owl logo with the “R” only, not to be confused with the one holding the “Rice” banner. On this site you can see the difference – the big one in the upper right vs. the little one on the “Click Here to Purchase Tickets” button on the left.

    http://riceowls.cstv...

    -Head

  • Kim | June 15, 2006 at 9:22 am |

    Paul,
    Zidane’s stirrups are actually not that uncommon. A lot of shinguards have stirrups.

    Here’s a cataloge page with many examples:
    http://www.soccer.co...

    adidas, Nike, Lotto, Puma, etc all produce similar models.

    Though Zidane is an adidas sponsored athlete, and you can see the imprint of the shinguard. It’s strange to actually see the stirrup, though, usually the team uniform sock is worn over it.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | June 15, 2006 at 9:57 am |

    im curious if georgia’s uniform template is based on a current nike basketball template with similar gussets. (im quite sure that is the first time i’ve ever said that)

    georgia’s mens hoops team used to wear uniforms that look like this with a similar parallelogram style side gusset. (i KNOW that this is the first time ive said that!)

    Here is one game action photo. Here is another.

    Many teams have worn this template, penn state has, oklahoma state still does, i think clemson may have as well…

  • Brett Donohue | June 15, 2006 at 10:04 am |

    The logo on Rice’s Baseball Uniforms is VICTORY Sports, a custom uniform company that specializes in Baseball Uniforms. When Rice won the CWS, Victory had a banner already made and the players paraded the banner around the field. By the way, the banner was made with Tackle Twill letters and had a pinstripe background.

  • T-Bone | June 15, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    The WFL helmets are pretty cool! I was checking out this site as well. If you’re a fan of football movies, these mini-helmets should bring a smile to your face.

    http://www.joessport...

  • T-Bone | June 15, 2006 at 10:21 am |

    Joe also has other helmets. I forgot this link.

    http://www.joessport...

  • GT SC | June 15, 2006 at 10:39 am |

    Florida State and Miami also wear the Nike Dri-Fit jerseys. FSU has garnet gussets on their white, gray, and gold uniforms. Miami has green gussets on one set of their white jerseys.

    Russell Athletic has jumped on board with a Dri-Power jersey that Georgia Tech wore during their Friday Super Regional game. These have eclipsed both the Nike and Majestic versions as the worst in my opinion.

    http://web.mac.com/m...

    http://web.mac.com/m...

  • Greg | June 15, 2006 at 10:58 am |

    Kim On, you’re close. But those stirrups you linked are the ankle guards attatched to shinguards and, unless you’re 5, are never going to bee outwardly seen. The socks should cover them. In fact, very few players at high levels (pros especially) wear ankle guards, if at all. They simply inhibit movement too much. Not to mention the cankles it gives the wearer! Those stirrups Zidane was wearing are most likely altered soccer socks. I’ve noticed it a few times before, it fact I think some players cut off the foot part of the sock all together! I think Christiano Ronaldo of Portugal/Manchester United does this. If not, he certainly wears his spats (remember those?) VERY high.
    http://www.indiainfo...

    Though lately I’ve seen him just use a single band of tape above the ankle like many players do. I think to maintain the integrity of the sock color:
    http://www.telegraph...

    Todd K, those jerseys of Georgia’s you pointed out are definitely not the same template for the baseball jerseys. There are many Nike jerseys and shirts that have variously shaped underarm gussets. They spawn from the idea that more airy material in that area will increase breathability and thus keep the wearer cool and dry. (Can you tell I used to work at Niketown?) ;) In fact that old Georgia uni is the same template that George Mason was using this past season:
    http://extras.journa...

    Paul, you forgot to mention the most popular cross-sport headwear design: Michigan!

    Football:
    http://mtimages.cstv...

    Hockey:
    http://michigan.scou...

    Can you imagine what a baseball cap would look like?!

  • kom22 | June 15, 2006 at 11:25 am |

    Paul,

    Interesting debate I had last night that you might be able to resolve. What baseball uniform number has the most career homeruns. We worked it down to 25 and 44 but couldn’t resolve it from there. Any input or consideration to end the debate?

    kom22

  • Scott | June 15, 2006 at 11:37 am |

    What about No. 3? Ruth, Killebrew, A-Rod from his Seattle and Texas days. That is a pretty strong start for a number…

  • Joe Hilseberg | June 15, 2006 at 11:55 am |

    Did someone say Michigan Helmet Hat?

    http://www.collegege...

  • JohnLanctot | June 15, 2006 at 1:12 pm |

    I just ordered that book, uniform numbers are a strange passion of mine. I hope it is as great as it looks. By the way Paul, have you noticed Michael Barret’s recent change and change back with his cathcers gear. As you may know he switched from the new school mask and gear to the
    old school wilson gear because of endorsment deals with wilson and how he was being treated poorly by easton and all star. But, recently he switched to the new age wilson chest protector on the cubs recent road trip but when the cubs returned home he was back to wearing the old school protector.

    Barrett’s Gear Timeline

    Last Year new age Easton
    http://www.sportsecy...

    May 31st-He is clearly wearing an older styled protector that he has been wearing since the World Baseball classic (on a side note Neifi Perez is wearing Aramis Ramirez’s wristband)

    http://sports.espn.g...

    June 7th- New age Chest protector
    http://sports.espn.g...

    June 13th- It is hard to see but I was at the game and can prove that he was back to wearing the old protector.
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just thought it was interesting. Thanks the blog is great.

  • Brandon T. | June 15, 2006 at 1:21 pm |

    Although the stretch gussets are annoying, I think they’re most annoying because they are contained under an even more annoying trend in sports uniforms, that being the (over)use of the color black.

    Seriously, when is the black trend going to end? I thought when the Steelers bucked black in the Super Bowl that the trend had officially reached the climax and was now losing steam, but pictures like this make me not so sure. Georgia’s native colors (red & white) are beautiful, why must they ruin their look with a color that’s more fit for a dungeon? Maybe this is just me?

  • Andy Head | June 15, 2006 at 1:56 pm |

    Indeed, I stand corrected on the Rice jerseys. Here’s Victory’s link, so you can compare for yourself:

    http://www.victory-l...

  • Micah | June 15, 2006 at 2:01 pm |

    Why are y’all dissin’ the gussets? They may look not cool, but they provide breathability at a place where you sweat a whole hell of a lot: the underarm. It’s only natural to place a stretch, mesh gusset to promote breathability and air out your pits.

  • Matthew | June 15, 2006 at 2:04 pm |

    Soccer players wear tape under their shinguards to keep the guards from slipping down during a game. Zidane’s socks do appear to be altered, as a lot of players, especially forwards, wear shinguards that don’t have any stirrup at all (thus the tape around the ankle to help keep them in place).

  • Paul Lukas | June 15, 2006 at 2:12 pm |

    About Michael Barrett’s gear: I believe he’s only wearing the new-age stuff on the road — hasn’t updated his home gear yet.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | June 15, 2006 at 2:24 pm |

    question for anyone who has watched more than 1 world cup match…
    at the end of the games, you can hear a song play on the telecasts. it sounds like a national anthem, but it is the same song played at the end of each game, no matter who wins or what site they are at.
    i have no idea what the german national anthem sounds like, so i wouldnt recognize that if i heard it, and im not sure if there was a special world cup 06 song developed for the conclusion of the games…
    can anyone shed any light on this?

  • K.C. | June 15, 2006 at 2:44 pm |

    Don’t diss the dawgs on the black trend… black is an official school color, has been for a long time. I don’t like the gussets, but those truly guilty in the black trend aren’t teams like Georgia. They’re the teams that added black to their color scheme so that they could wear it (or just went ahead and wore it).

    Anyway, Check out this link, which provides a neat history of the rivalry between UGA & Georgia Tech through UNIFORM COLORS!

    http://georgiadogs.c...

    And no, the trend is not over yet…

  • nico | June 15, 2006 at 2:49 pm |

    According to Michael Davies, who has a world cup blog for ESPN, its “Stand up for the Champions”
    http://sports.espn.g...
    “Not sure you’re getting this at home, but at the end of every game, over the stadium sound system, FIFA plays a song performed by what must be a Swiss guy (or even Sepp Blatter) singing a light classical, Karaoke version of one of the best football chants ever “Stand up for the Champions.” It is horrific and so inappropriate. Who are the champions exactly in Round 1 of the World Cup? And what if it’s a draw? And shouldn’t we stand up for the plucky losers, too?”
    So there you have it.

  • eddie | June 15, 2006 at 2:53 pm |

    not really anything to do with here but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get a good picture of the Hamilton Mustangs logo on the jerseys from the movie “Youngblood”. My beer league hockey team is looking to use those jerseys for next season but we need a clear picture of the logo for someone to produce the jerseys for us. any help would be awesome

  • Tony The Tiger | June 15, 2006 at 3:33 pm |

    From the Patrick Swayze Fan Club website

    http://www.patricksw...

    looks like the ford mustang logo in the middle of a capital M. might help ya out.

    AND NO, I’m not a member of his fan club. Google found that for me haha :)

  • Greg | June 15, 2006 at 3:35 pm |

    Remember when Ricky Martin’s “Cup of Life” was the theme song for the ’98 Cup in France?

    And by the way, not that I looked or anything, but I heard that those girls on that last link are wearing out of date unis.

  • Brandon T. | June 15, 2006 at 3:42 pm |

    K.C., you make a valid point in the fact that black is a school color for Georgia. My only problem with that is that it’s historically been used as a tertiary color, not a primary color, so Georgia obliterating their jerseys with black lettering, gussets, striping, hats, logo-creep, etc. relegates traditional red to third place. Home jerseys aren’t so bad (save the glaring red gussets).

    http://georgiadogs.c...

    That being said, you’re still correct in denoting (even though it’s being used as a primary color) that Georgia has always used black, while other schools (Duke basketball is the best example I can think of) have jumped on this black bandwagon ENTIRELY too much. Texas, for example.

    http://www.apexsql.c...

  • Tony The Tiger | June 15, 2006 at 3:54 pm |

    Well, for all this argument about Georgia putting a “tertiary” color on their uniforms, at least there’s hope for a turn around.

    I know its not black…

    But remember a few years back when the Red Sox wore mostly blue and the new owners came in and said they were going to be red again?

    Maybe the same will happen with black. There’s just fad colors. Kind of like purple. :) You know darn well in another few years the Diamondbacks will get rid of the purple stuff. Inevitable.

  • Nolan | June 15, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”919″]About Michael Barrett’s gear: I believe he’s only wearing the new-age stuff on the road — hasn’t updated his home gear yet.[/quote]

    My thought is he’s wearing old school gear with a classic uni in a classic ballpark. Tricked-up chest protectors are fine for playing on field turf, but not at Wrigley.

  • Warren Thompson | June 15, 2006 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”921″]Don’t diss the dawgs on the black trend… black is an official school color, has been for a long time. I don’t like the gussets, but those truly guilty in the black trend aren’t teams like Georgia. They’re the teams that added black to their color scheme so that they could wear it (or just went ahead and wore it).

    Anyway, Check out this link, which provides a neat history of the rivalry between UGA & Georgia Tech through UNIFORM COLORS!

    http://georgiadogs.c...

    And no, the trend is not over yet…[/quote]

    In the 1940s and 50s, UGA football, despite the official colors of red and black, sported red jerseys and SILVER helmets (and that wasn’t at all a bad combination).

  • JohnLanctot | June 15, 2006 at 5:12 pm |

    My thought about Barrett’s gear was that he realized that he didnt like the new gear, and thus as soon as they got back from the road trip where he began using it he switched back to the old gear. On another catchers gear topic, I play college baseball and I recently began using similar gear to Ramon Castro of the mets. And, to be honest uni watch is what made me get it, it is really nice gear, but my set is not the black and orange like castros.

  • T-Bone | June 15, 2006 at 5:45 pm |

    John, L… what college team do you play for?

    Regardless of what level of NCAA you play (or anything else), see if you can get a pic of your school’s jerseys. I’ve been trying to get my hands on a college baseball jersey for some time, and all the bookstores keep telling me that they never have any. Any advice on how to obtain a real jersey? Anyone?

  • foley | June 15, 2006 at 6:09 pm |

    thanks i wasn’t paying any attention to the links because i wasnt reading the info just looking at the photos and i click the last one of XXX and my mom walked in next time you should put MATURE. (good Website though)

  • Tom O'Grady | June 15, 2006 at 6:31 pm |

    Good catch by James Huening, who writes: “I noticed during Saturday night’s Cubs/Reds game on that Aramis Ramirez didn’t have a left-sleeve patch like everyone else…

    Aramis is also different than everyone else in that he doesn’t run hard on ground outs or pop outs like everyone else. Hmmmm.

    Dusty gives him slack because of his over sensitive hamstrings…and that’s the Cubs…

    True.

    Tom

  • Kevin | June 15, 2006 at 7:21 pm |

    Agree with the above, if you’re going to link to an XXX site, put some sort of disclaimer before the link, I was reading at work and opened it up. Yikes!

  • Laura M. | June 15, 2006 at 7:22 pm |

    Since everyone is talking about the black creeping into uniforms, how about our teams at the University of Oregon? Our last home football game had us in ugly black and dark green jerseys, which Paul displayed as an example of something bad in one of his columns. I’m also afraid our basketball team will be sporting black this coming season based on jerseys that are for sale at our bookstore which are black and white, with yellow accents inside the collar and arms. I couldn’t find a picture though, sorry.

    One last thing, I am a member of the marching band, and while you might not like our uniforms Paul, they are comfortable for us, except the helmets, which we despise.

  • Jared | June 15, 2006 at 7:53 pm |

    Paul ~

    Bobby Crosby is amond the stirrup wearing population …..

    http://seattlepi.nws...

  • Jeff | June 15, 2006 at 7:56 pm |

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Here is a great picture of the Michigan Catchers helmet, look fimilar?

    Also, the Georiga jerseys are a stock nike jersey becoming very popular in both college and high school. They paired it last year with Manny style baggy pants with no elastic strap on the bottom as seen in these pics of the Oregon Club Baseball Team.

    http://ducknews.com/...

  • Jared | June 15, 2006 at 8:00 pm |

    DAMN! I can’t spell

  • Brian | June 15, 2006 at 8:59 pm |

    Germany’s national anthem is the Deustchlandlied hear it here, read about it here. [about.com]

    An old band director of mine had our ensemble play it (a beautiful Haydn piece, in my opinion). He said “beautiful piece, right? Yeah, it was the Nazi national anthem.” However, I have since learned that it was the German anthem before and after Hitler. Crazy band directors.

    Re: Zidane, those are just modified (cut) uniform socks, worn with more comfortable white socks beneath them. Many people I play with wear white socks over their uniform socks to prevent blisters, but Zidane’s method makes much more sense. I may try that this season as I attempt to use my expensive yet blister-causing Nike AZ Total 90’s from last year, which I had previously given up on o_O

  • Rico Suave | June 15, 2006 at 9:20 pm |

    The hockey game was on at the bar last night (hockey in June? Whose idea was that?), and I saw the shoulder patch on the Carolina Hurricanes’ jersey:
    Carolina Alternative logo

    Which is really a “tropical storm warning” flag.

  • K.C. | June 15, 2006 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”927″]K.C., you make a valid point in the fact that black is a school color for Georgia. My only problem with that is that it’s historically been used as a tertiary color, not a primary color, so Georgia obliterating their jerseys with black lettering, gussets, striping, hats, logo-creep, etc. relegates traditional red to third place. Home jerseys aren’t so bad (save the glaring red gussets).

    http://georgiadogs.c...

    That being said, you’re still correct in denoting (even though it’s being used as a primary color) that Georgia has always used black, while other schools (Duke basketball is the best example I can think of) have jumped on this black bandwagon ENTIRELY too much. Texas, for example.

    http://www.apexsql.c...

    Yeah those Duke “black and blue devils” uniforms are annoying… This is the kind of freewheeling use of black that needs to stop…

    Here’s a good one of Texas, if you could even tell it was Texas…
    http://www.texasspor...

    I wonder if this “black plague” has anything to do with rats & fleas…

  • Steven | June 15, 2006 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”944″][quote comment=”927″]K.C., you make a valid point in the fact that black is a school color for Georgia. My only problem with that is that it’s historically been used as a tertiary color, not a primary color, so Georgia obliterating their jerseys with black lettering, gussets, striping, hats, logo-creep, etc. relegates traditional red to third place. Home jerseys aren’t so bad (save the glaring red gussets).

    http://georgiadogs.c...

    That being said, you’re still correct in denoting (even though it’s being used as a primary color) that Georgia has always used black, while other schools (Duke basketball is the best example I can think of) have jumped on this black bandwagon ENTIRELY too much. Texas, for example.

    http://www.apexsql.c...

    Yeah those Duke “black and blue devils” uniforms are annoying… This is the kind of freewheeling use of black that needs to stop…

    Here’s a good one of Texas, if you could even tell it was Texas…
    http://www.texasspor...

    I wonder if this “black plague” has anything to do with rats & fleas…[/quote]

    This “black plague” is all a product of marketing and recruiting. Apparently it’s easier to get young basketball players to attend your school if you had some “street cred”, which black unis bring.

  • Ryan | June 15, 2006 at 10:35 pm |

    Uhhhh Foley, Kevin, it says right in front of the link “Not safe for work, if your boss is around don’t click.” How much more of a warning do you want? Now as for horrendous use of the colour black for no reason other than everyone else is doing it and we need to sell some jerseys, look no further than the Detroit Lions. They went from wearing this on Thanksgiving:

    http://www.detroitli...

    To this:

    http://www.detroitli...

    Awful, absolutely awful.

  • Chris in CA | June 15, 2006 at 11:07 pm |

    OK, either all of you guys are castrated or all of you would rather look at guys in World Cup unis more than women in World Cup unis. Where are the props to Paul for linking that great site with all the beauties? Well done my friend…well done. But soccer still sucks!

  • Vincent | June 16, 2006 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”943″]The hockey game was on at the bar last night (hockey in June? Whose idea was that?), and I saw the shoulder patch on the Carolina Hurricanes’ jersey:
    Carolina Alternative logo

    Which is really a “tropical storm warning” flag.[/quote]
    Here, they say that one flag is a hurricane watch while two is a hurricane warning.

  • Bobby D | June 16, 2006 at 9:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”923″]not really anything to do with here but I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get a good picture of the Hamilton Mustangs logo on the jerseys from the movie “Youngblood”. My beer league hockey team is looking to use those jerseys for next season but we need a clear picture of the logo for someone to produce the jerseys for us. any help would be awesome[/quote]

    Why can’t you do a video capture of that movie on your PC (maybe someone, if not you, on your team has a DVD player and can download a vidcap freeware) then print it out or send to a graphic designer by email?

  • WirelessBuzz | June 18, 2006 at 3:57 am |

    [quote comment=”913″]Georgia’s native colors (red & white) are beautiful, why must they ruin their look with a color that’s more fit for a dungeon? Maybe this is just me?[/quote]

    Georgia is more known for red and black than red and white. Their school paper is called the Red and Black for example.

  • Rick M | June 18, 2006 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”912″]I just ordered that book, uniform numbers are a strange passion of mine. I hope it is as great as it looks. By the way Paul, have you noticed Michael Barret’s recent change and change back with his cathcers gear. As you may know he switched from the new school mask and gear to the
    old school wilson gear because of endorsment deals with wilson and how he was being treated poorly by easton and all star. But, recently he switched to the new age wilson chest protector on the cubs recent road trip but when the cubs returned home he was back to wearing the old school protector.

    Barrett’s Gear Timeline

    Last Year new age Easton
    http://www.sportsecy...

    May 31st-He is clearly wearing an older styled protector that he has been wearing since the World Baseball classic (on a side note Neifi Perez is wearing Aramis Ramirez’s wristband)

    http://sports.espn.g...

    June 7th- New age Chest protector
    http://sports.espn.g...

    June 13th- It is hard to see but I was at the game and can prove that he was back to wearing the old protector.
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just thought it was interesting. Thanks the blog is great.[/quote]

    I got the uni number book at Borders on Friday! From i’ve perused so far, it looks pretty darn cool. I’ll try to update you all on some things out of it as i make my way through it.

  • patrick | June 18, 2006 at 8:59 pm |

    Zidane’s stirrups are actually not that uncommon. A lot of shinguards have stirrups.

    It’s strange to actually see the stirrup, though, usually the team uniform sock is worn over it.[/quote]

    Actually, zidane isnt wearing stirrups, or shinguards with stirrups. First, to dispell the idea of the stirrup shinguards, very few high level soccer players use stirrup shinguards because the padding they provide around the ankle hinder shooting and ball control. You can note that he is wearing simple shinguards that you stick in your socks because he has tape wrapped around his ankle to keep them up. Secondly, what he is wearing is a pair of cut soccer socks. Soccer socks are incredibly bulky and soccer sheos are a tight fit, so many players cut the sock at the ankle, and wear a simple white sock for a better fit. In his case, it appears he had the sock cut into a stirrup

  • ChrisN | June 22, 2006 at 8:19 pm |

    North Carolina’s baseball hat logo is also the same as on the football helmets. But Carolina has been using the interlocking “NC” logo for athletics since the late 1800s, so it’s not especially identified with any one sport.

  • James | May 5, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    I was surfing hockey logos and came up with this site. I beilieve the nhl could definately benefit with this guys logos. http://www.LegendsFo....
    Anyone agree? James