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Going Green xo Blue

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By Phil Hecken

One of my great pleasures in serving at Paul’s Bench Coach is getting to meet (either in person or through the magic of the Interwebs) many of UW’s fantastic contributors, many of whom either assist me with my weekend duties, or who provide either a “graphic” or a tweak or a section, or what have you. Anyone who followed Uni Watch through this past football season is well acquainted with the Ducktracker, the weekly documentation of the myriad uniform machinations of the Oregon Ducks football team. And in what turned out to be a magical season for the Ducks, capped by a run for the roses, many of us eagerly awaited the updated Ducktracker after each game.

The Ducktracker, as you are no doubt aware, is the brainchild of Michael Princip, who we’re about to meet in detail today. Anyone who knows (or knows of ) Michael might think he’s obsessed with the Ducks, and while they’d be right, there is so much more to him and his amazing skillset, love of all things uniform, and particularly the Seattle Seahawks. Mike’s also a “helmet junkie” and a collector. In addition to supplying my weekend columns with the Ducktracker, I worked very closely with Mike and Larry Bodnovich on several mini articles leading up to the Rose Bowl, culminating in our epic New Year’s Day article.

Many of you may remember Michael “unwittingly” having the “scoop” on the greatest April Fool’s Day joke that wasn’t back in 2009. I’d been hoping to interview Mike for some time, but he’s been a busy man, reinventing his own website, “GreenGlare” into the gem that it has become. You’ll hear more about that below.

So, sit back, and let’s meet Mr. Princip and the fantastic goings-on in his world.

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GreenxoBlue

By Michael Princip

As far as I can remember, I began to watch and enjoy football (NFL) in the late summer of 1977. It was in a DC suburb, when I was 8 years old and at a friend of the family’s house, where it all began. I was looking through a book collection and spotted the 1977 NFL Pro Football Encyclopedia. Now, at the time, my father was a Redskins fan, and I was a little kid trying to figure out this game. I did know one thing, that the helmets were interesting and visually appealing to me with the remarkable color combinations and distinctive decals. I remember flipping through the pages, of this Encyclopedia, and stopping at the Seahawks team section. Transfixed, I glanced over the images and knew that logo/decal was from something remarkable (NW American Indian Art) and that this was my team.

The first time I saw the Seahawks play was probably through NBC’s NFL highlights, hosted by Bryant Gumbel. There, Bryant would go over the scores, then segue over to Mike Adamle for more detailed analysis and video of the game. The Seahawks had a below average team in 1977, however, a much better season in 1978. For a third year expansion team, the Seahawks nearly made the playoffs and swept their divisional rival 1976 Super Bowl XI champion Oakland Raiders. My favorite players were like most other fans, Jim Zorn and Steve Largent. However, I really admired Sam McCullum as well. Not only was he a fantastic player in my opinion, he also had a very cool style. Looked great in a Seahawks uniform, that was very much enhanced by his two bar mask TAK 29 helmet. In fact, it was the Seahawk helmet that really intrigued me. I didn’t know much about this unique aquiline hawk logo at the time. However, I eventually discovered it was designed by the NFL Properties design team, headed by David Boss and influenced by North American Indian art.

The first bit of memorabilia I remember having at this early stage of my NFL courtship had to be my football cards. I vividly remember opening up my first pack of the 1977 Topps football set, sifting through the deck and thinking; “What the hell is this shit?! Why are all of the decals missing from the helmets? Did they only take pics from games where they played without the decals? Preseason?” I later found out that Topps did not have the rights to reproduce the actual team logos on the helmets and uniforms of the players. Which was disappointing, however, I loved my 1977 team set none the less. I still have the exact same set I had when I was a kid.

In addition to the football cards, I also had the 1976 inaugural pennant, Tudor electric players (custom painted by me, because this was awful), duffel bag, gumball helmets, Kellogs Cereal stickers, Sears Fall/Winter catalog products, super rare switch cover, and many many clippings.

Living 2,800 miles from Seattle, there wasn’t too much in the way of Seahawks memorabilia or articles that I could get. Just to get a glimpse of that uniform was a thrill and I pretty much bought and clipped out any images I could find of my team. I remember my favorite pics were of any players wearing the Dungard style masks. Fortunately for me, the Seahawks were one of the football clubs that pretty much outfitted the entire team with Dungards (seen in the first 1976 team picture).

I simply love these masks because they were so distinct and organic looking. From the two bar model DG 210, which most of the offense and DBs wore, to the DG 125 with the center nose guard, and the supreme badass DG 140. The latter DG 140 made the lineman look like they just ripped out the ribcage of a small animal, and decided to use it for a face guard. Intimidating yes, however, in the end they found out that the Dungards were just too difficult to see out of, and the aluminum was way too easy to bend out of shape. That being said, owning one of these helmets nowadays, fitted with the original Dungards is a real honor, of sorts. I never stop admiring and examining my helmets worn by these Seahawk pioneers.

I started my website, www.greenxoblue.com, solely for the need to document and reflect upon these products that thrilled me as a kid, and maybe learn something from other like minded people. It didn’t matter if they were a fan of the Seahawks or any other football team, because we all share a common interest here.

I want to showcase the design of the product, and feature their unique characteristics within a clean, graphically fun, and easily navigable environment. There is an emphasis on the vintage items, however there are some newer items included in the website in which I find appealing and unique also. For example, my Seahawks game day poncho, B-boy hats, foam head, original artwork concepts, and Lofa Tatupu’s rookie helmet.

The latter is especially unique because it’s the first helmet Lofa got when he joined the team (Riddell Revolution), and wore it all the way up to the very last regular season game, of the 2005 season. This helmet can be photo matched, all the way back to the first game of the season, by a very distinct gash on the first upper vent hole. That was the only year that Lofa wore the Riddell Revolution helmet, as a Seahawk. Interestingly enough, he went to the Super Bowl and Pro Bowl that year as a defensive captain rookie middle linebacker. For any NFL player this is quite impressive. For an NFL rookie it’s doubly impressive. Add to that, he was coming off a BCS National Championship win with the 2004 USC Trojans.

Eventually, I hope to include more original artwork from other artists and showcase their work/interpretations of Seahawks uniform concepts, as well as product & graphic design. In addition to the greenxoblue site, I also run the Illustrated NFL site with my friend and artist Dan Tearle. Within this site we have a nice break down on how the Damac series posters were created, as well as, interviews with some of the artists that worked with the NFL Properties design team in the late seventies & early eighties.

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Fantastic job Michael. Thanks for the interview writing the whole main article for me. Looking forward to getting back together this fall when you again track the Ducks and hopefully before then for more updates on your fantastic site.

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squiddie files 2From The Squiddie Files: Back again with our Life Coach, Lance Smith, who’s back with more great stuff. Patches? We don’t need no stinkin’ patches…do we? Sure we do, and Squiddie has a sweet look at some of the patches of yesteryear. Here’s Lance:

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Last week there was some discussion in the comments about the American League Golden Anniversary patch some of the players could be seen wearing on the All-Star tour of Japan.

This got me thinking about baseball sleeve patches. These days we’re used to teams wearing patches commemorating anniversaries and new stadia and memorializing players or officials who have passed away. How common were such patches and insignia in the past? Looking through the Dressed ot the Nines Uniform Database at the Baseball Hall of Fame shows that the left sleeve patch or embroidery wasn’t always as common as it is today.

Using an arbitrary period of 1937-1962, when Life was probably most active in its coverage of sports, let’s see what there is in the archives.

Let’s look at some photos.

Starting out with failure, I couldn’t find any photos of the World’s Fair patch worn by the New York teams in 1938. Plenty of photos of the Perisphere and Trylon and the World’s Fair tour guides, though.

The next big event was the Baseball Centennial in 1939 where most teams wore a commemorative patch. (Here’s one that sold at auction in 2007.) This was worn throughout the year including in Spring Training and the All-Star game. It appears to be a large patch that took up a sizeable portion of the left sleeve.

One of the few teams that didn’t wear the patch were the St. Louis Browns who were already wearing a patch featuring the Apotheosis of St. Louis.

In 1941 the Giants added a NY logo, modeled here by Carl Hubbell.

During the war years many teams wore a stars and stripes shield. Here it is worn by a Cardinals batboy and Dave Ferriss. Some teams continued to wear this patch for years after the war was over.

The Cleveland Indians have a string of Native American insignia. A chief emblem adopted in 1938. A cartoonish Chief Wahoo was added in 1947 as worn here by Satchel Paige. This was replaced by the current version in 1951.

A similar path was taken by the Boston and Milwaukee Braves. A head with a full headdress was adopted in 1945, shown during Spring Training in 1949. When the team moved to Milwaukee, the patch came with. In 1957, Milwaukee switched to a yelling Brave patch.

While the American League was celebrating their Golden Anniversary in 1951, many National League teams wore a patch with a glove in a diamond as shown here on the Braves and Dodgers uniforms.

In 1952, the Yankees celebrated 50 seasons with a commemorative patch worn here by Jerry Coleman. Oddly, they didn’t wear the patch during the World Series. Compare Stengel before and Allie Reynolds during the Series.

The St. Louis Browns replaced the AL patch with a brownie in 1952. When the franchise moved to Baltimore in 1954, they did without a patch for a year, but in 1955 they added an oriole. (The oriole patch in color as modeled by Hoyt Wilhelm.)

Sometimes uniform trends require adaptation. In 1955 Cincinnati wore a Mr. Red patch on their sleeve. When they moved to vests in 1956, the patch moved to the chest.

Teams will often dig into their pasts for insignia. The Philadelphia Athletics were called a White Elephant by John McGraw in 1905 and adopted the mascot. When the team moved to 1955, the mascot was revived for the new city. The elephant would be brought back in 1988 by Oakland.

In 1959 when Calvin Griffith moved to cement the Washington franchise’s image as the Senators, he added a pitching Senator patch and put the name on the jerseys. When the franchise moved to the Twin Cities, a Twins patch replaced the Senator. (Rich Rollins and Harmon Killebrew.)

Oddly, Life didn’t cover the 1962 Mets and their skyline patch. This photo is from a few years later, but it’s just about the same, right? I’m sure the Marvelous Marv would understand.

That’s about it. Next week I’ll try to find some photos that aren’t about baseball. Maybe the Brooklyn Dodgers football team! (That’s the AAFC version.)

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Wow…once again, fantastic stuff Squiddie! Can’t wait to see what you have in store for us next week.

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Benchies HeaderReally, there are no words for what you’re about to see. But Ricko has a few anyway.

Imagine fame. Notoriety. Someone actually giving a damn about your tweets. Recognition at Denny’s. How would you handle it? Would you remember the “little people,” be kind to them, let them know you appreciate them? Well, WOULD you?

So, yeah. Here’s you’re full-color Sunday Bencies. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

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uni template 2Back again with more Uniform Tweaks, Concepts and Revisions today. Lots to get to, and if you have a tweak, change or concept for any sport, send them my way.

Starting off the show, we don’t so much have a “uni” tweak as we have a “wall” tweak. What’s that you say? Here’s the Former Dirt Dart, Walter Young to explain:

I thought I would improve the score board.

Yeah, I left out 1999.

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In the two-hole today is Jeff Shirley, with a Jazzy-Jazz redesign:

Phil,

Just thought I’d submit another updated version of the Utah Jazz uniforms featuring the musical ‘J’ note logo, since they’re rumored to be bringing these back for next season. I used their powder blue template, even though some think the ‘Utah’ on the shorts looks too high school. I was pleased with how they turned out, although it kept reminding me of Notre Dame with these colors. I’ll be anxious to see how the new ones look when they come out.

Keep up the great work, as usual.

Thanks,

Jeff Shirley

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Moving along, we find Gus Romero with his take on the Friars:

Phil,

You have may seen this one a few times but for the life of me I cannot remember seeing them on your blog. I am a die hard Padre fan, and love the different Padre Tweeks over the past few months or so. But I’m an old school guy, and will always be faithful to the brown and gold of Padre Past. I love the lettering of the current home unis, and just did the obvious switch to give them that brown and gold touch that is sorely missing. This is just the home Unis.

Thanks, keep up the awesome work. Loved the bowling alley entry. One of my faves yet.

Gus

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And finally, we have Brian Erni, who has a BFBS tweak for the Cardinals. And a couple tweaks for the White Sox:

Hey Phil,

Okay, here are a couple of tweaks. Go easy on me, as it’s my first submission.

First up the Arizona Cardinals new black jersey:

I get that this is definitely BFBS, but I thought at least if they were going to add a black look, they might as well do a better job with it. Go easy on me here with the sleeves, because i did draw them by hand in Paint, but I added the old 1996-2002 Arizona flag sleeve stripes, removed all the unneccessary piping and changed the front and TV numbers from white/red to red/white. I left the nameplate white/red on purpose, thinking it might add an interesting quirk to the uni and make longer names (like Fitzgerald) stand out more. I think it’s a major improvement.

For the White Sox, here’s a home and road set I did. I decided on a pale red to add to the current white and black, since there’s definitely a precedent for red in the Sox’s history. I combined a bunch of eras on this, using the 1949-1970 primary as their new sleeve patch. For the home, I recolored the old 1917 SOX insignia and removed the stars, mimicking the logo on the hat.

For the roads, I used the 1976-1981 road font for the front and recolored it. I think the three color piping helps and actually doesn’t clutter it. And of course, notice the white stirrups with black sanitaries and the striping on top. Obviously, if this actually did get picked up by the Sox, those wouldn’t make the cut, but I think they’d look jsut as good with solid black “soccer” socks.

Thanks! And keep up the great work!

-Brian Erni

Another round of tweaks in the books. Keep ’em comin’.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: Dialing up the way-back machine a bit today, we have a beautiful color scoreboard from a simpler time. It is probably not terribly difficult, but it sure is a pretty picture. All the clues are right there, and even the novices at this game should be able to get it correct. Hey, how many stars are on that flag? Ready? Guess The Game From The Scoreboard. Date, location and final score, please, and be sure to link to your answer. And, as always, if you enjoy the game, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!

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Let’s put this one into the books. Big thanks to Mike Princip for that tremendous main article, and of course to Squiddie and Ricko. Everyone have a great Sunday.

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It was just a matter that we had a pro team and how fantastic it was. We didn’t have to put a lot of wins on the board for people to get excited. — Jim Zorn

 

111 comments to Going Green xo Blue

  • Jordan Sogn | May 2, 2010 at 8:17 am |

    once again, great read by Phil on a sunny Sunday morning…thank you!

    here are some nice behind the scenes footage of Oklahoma’s football offices & such in case anyone likes that kind of thing.
    http://soonersports....

  • StLMarty | May 2, 2010 at 8:47 am |

    Holy shit!
    Same year.
    Same team.
    Seahawks vs. Chargers. End of game network switch.
    That was my uni-epiphany.
    I was 5.

  • StLMarty | May 2, 2010 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”388528″]Holy shit!
    Same year.
    Same team.
    Seahawks vs. Chargers. End of game network switch.
    That was my uni-epiphany.
    I was 5.[/quote]
    1977.

  • JB Early | May 2, 2010 at 9:11 am |

    Kudos to Brian Erni – excellent Chisox tweaks

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 9:13 am |

    I guess we all have moments like that.

    For me, being a old bugger, it was shortly after I started paying attention to MLB in about 1954.

    Then I saw a 1952 baseball card of Duane Pillette of the Browns. “Wait a minute, there was a team that wore WHITE hats?”
    http://www.vintageca...

    —Ricko

  • Doug in GA | May 2, 2010 at 9:19 am |

    Great read about the early Seahawks. They were my team as a pre-teen.

    I am a lefty and Zorn was the first lefty QB I’d ever seen in the NFL, so that did it for me. Kinda explains how a GA boy would root for a team in Seattle.

  • Lew Holst | May 2, 2010 at 9:43 am |

    I know Topps could not print the logos, but I know I saw highlights of the Seahawks playing an actual game with no logos on their helmets.

    Doesn’t anybody else remember this?

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”388533″]I know Topps could not print the logos, but I know I saw highlights of the Seahawks playing an actual game with no logos on their helmets.

    Doesn’t anybody else remember this?[/quote]

    Well, a while back someone posted a photo from the Seahawks first preseason game in ’76 (against the Bears, maybe?) and the helmet logos were there. Doesn’t seem likely they’d have removed them later.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 10:07 am |

    I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 10:42 am |

    Okay, a Seahawks kinda day.
    Seahawks vs. Chargers, you say?
    http://farm5.static....
    Sam McCullum, huh?
    http://farm5.static....
    Lefthanded QB, early in career…
    http://farm5.static....
    Practice gear hasn’t always been so slick…
    http://farm5.static....
    Royal with sleeve logo in the sunshine…
    http://farm5.static....
    And the mesh years…
    http://farm5.static....

    (Just thought I’d dig and see what might be interesting.)

    —Ricko

  • Brian Erni | May 2, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”388530″]Kudos to Brian Erni – excellent Chisox tweaks[/quote]

    Thanks, JB! Glad you liked ’em!

  • Skycat | May 2, 2010 at 11:42 am |

    Guess the game answer:
    10/6/57
    World Series, Game 4
    Yankees at Braves (County Stadium)
    Braves 7; Yankees 5
    http://www.baseball-...

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”388533″]I know Topps could not print the logos, but I know I saw highlights of the Seahawks playing an actual game with no logos on their helmets.

    Doesn’t anybody else remember this?[/quote]

    Unless you have video of this scrimmage/practice(Kingdome 1976), the Seahawks have never played an actual game without their decals. Also, from that same practice/scrimmage, Husky qb Chris Rowland, andJim Zorn.

    Here is the first team pic.(1976) w/decals just before they played any games at all. Also, Aug.07 1976 preseason game against the Bears.

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”388534″][quote comment=”388533″]I know Topps could not print the logos, but I know I saw highlights of the Seahawks playing an actual game with no logos on their helmets.

    Doesn’t anybody else remember this?[/quote]

    Well, a while back someone posted a photo from the Seahawks first preseason game in ’76 (against the Bears, maybe?) and the helmet logos were there. Doesn’t seem likely they’d have removed them later.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    oh no…here we go again

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”388539″][quote comment=”388533″]I know Topps could not print the logos, but I know I saw highlights of the Seahawks playing an actual game with no logos on their helmets.

    Doesn’t anybody else remember this?[/quote]

    Unless you have video of this scrimmage/practice(Kingdome 1976), the Seahawks have never played an actual game without their decals. Also, from that same practice/scrimmage, Husky qb Chris Rowland, andJim Zorn.

    Here is the first team pic.(1976) w/decals just before they played any games at all. Also, Aug.07 1976 preseason game against the Bears.[/quote]

    BTW, I love that practice jersey Zorn and Rowland are wearing. My guess, the numbers are blue with a green stroke/border?

  • The Hemogoblin | May 2, 2010 at 12:38 pm |

    I enjoy a lot of the uni tweaks posted here in a vacuum– they generally look cool, even if I would never implement them with the teams tweaked. The white stirrups/black sanitaries combination for the White Sox is past that. I think they would look absolutely fantastic if they did that.

    It appears I have been shamed in my Duck and Seahawk fandom by a certain M. Princip, however. But Michael, why do you have a UW helmet, man? That better be your salsa dish or something.

  • =bg= | May 2, 2010 at 1:00 pm |

    i have one of those Bengals switchplate covers.

    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS

    have a Reds one too

  • interlockingtc | May 2, 2010 at 1:03 pm |

    You know, I’m always griping about teams tweaking their classic logos (tweak-for-tweaks-sake, or TFTS) and I was especially upset when the Seahawks altered their original into the angry, fierce bird we see now. I thought it was a slap in the face to the intent of the original’s Native American components.

    But Michael P., if the Haida illustration on your site is authentic…

    http://www.greenxobl...

    …then, in fact, the Seahawks got it right with the tweak, and are paying a more honest homage to the region’s Native cultures.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”388542″]
    It appears I have been shamed in my Duck and Seahawk fandom by a certain M. Princip, however. But Michael, why do you have a UW helmet, man? That better be your salsa dish or something.[/quote]

    Ha! Nice! Yes, I’m a Husky fan as well. That half helmet is from the UW equipment room back in 1979-80. Inside the shell there’s some tape with the writing UCLA gold.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”388543″]i have one of those Bengals switchplate covers.

    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS

    have a Reds one too[/quote]

    Do you remember where you bought it? I can’t remember if it’s a Sears thing or not? I know that they came out in ’72. I absolutely dig it because it has a player wearing a Bradshaw-esque Dungard facemask, DG 205.

  • FormerDirtDart | May 2, 2010 at 1:23 pm |

    Damn, I spammed you Phil…lol
    I meant to send the Citi Field scoreboard tweak to the Mets Police.
    But, thanks for posting it.

  • =bg= | May 2, 2010 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”388546″][quote comment=”388543″]i have one of those Bengals switchplate covers.

    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS

    have a Reds one too[/quote]

    Do you remember where you bought it? I can’t remember if it’s a Sears thing or not? I know that they came out in ’72. I absolutely dig it because it has a player wearing a Bradshaw-esque Dungard facemask, DG 205.[/quote]

    Don’t recall tho Sears seems likely; dig this.
    http://img.photobuck...

  • The Hemogoblin | May 2, 2010 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”388545″][quote comment=”388542″]
    It appears I have been shamed in my Duck and Seahawk fandom by a certain M. Princip, however. But Michael, why do you have a UW helmet, man? That better be your salsa dish or something.[/quote]

    Ha! Nice! Yes, I’m a Husky fan as well. That half helmet is from the UW equipment room back in 1979-80. Inside the shell there’s some tape with the writing UCLA gold.[/quote]

    UW and UO fandoms are irreconcilable. How the hell did you come up with those?

    Also, the backstory on that helmet is pretty interesting, so I’ll let you off the hook for that.

  • Dave | May 2, 2010 at 1:52 pm |

    Evan Longoria wearing stirrups today with the Rays’ powder blue tops. So far he’s 1-1 with a base knock.

    [URL=http://img413.imageshack.us/i/picture1nm.png/][IMG]http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5695/picture1nm.png[/IMG][/URL]

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  • Dave | May 2, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    Evan Longoria wearing stirrups today with the Rays powder blue tops. So far he’s 1-1 with a base knock.

    http://img413.images...

  • John T | May 2, 2010 at 1:57 pm |

    check out the mean facemask
    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 2:03 pm |

    Another great column on a weekend. Great work Michael.

    I did like the original Sea Hawks uniforms and helmets.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”388549″][quote comment=”388545″][quote comment=”388542″]
    It appears I have been shamed in my Duck and Seahawk fandom by a certain M. Princip, however. But Michael, why do you have a UW helmet, man? That better be your salsa dish or something.[/quote]

    Ha! Nice! Yes, I’m a Husky fan as well. That half helmet is from the UW equipment room back in 1979-80. Inside the shell there’s some tape with the writing UCLA gold.[/quote]

    UW and UO fandoms are irreconcilable. [/quote]

    I had a similar moment back when the Hawks played the Skins at Qwest. Zorn was at the helm, for the Skins, and the Skins had a real chance to make the playoffs. The Hawks totally stunk……actually, they both were pretty bad. Skins win.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”388548″][quote comment=”388546″][quote comment=”388543″]i have one of those Bengals switchplate covers.

    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS

    have a Reds one too[/quote]

    Do you remember where you bought it? I can’t remember if it’s a Sears thing or not? I know that they came out in ’72. I absolutely dig it because it has a player wearing a Bradshaw-esque Dungard facemask, DG 205.[/quote]

    Don’t recall tho Sears seems likely; dig this.
    http://img.photobuck...

    I’m thinking it was Sears or Penneys. I had an Oilers one. It would still be up at my parents’ house, but when my nephew moved in I tried to take it off and bring it to my place. I think it ended up ripping.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”388536″]Royal with sleeve logo in the sunshine…
    http://farm5.static....

    I had that jersey. Wish I wouldn’t have gotten rid of it.

    Great stuff today, guys.

    Hey Ricko, is Mike trying to compensate for something by holding that bat?

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”388553″]Another great column on a weekend. Great work Michael.

    I did like the original Sea Hawks uniforms and helmets.[/quote]

    Thanks Larry. have you seen all the fantastic colorizations yesterday? No doubt, you had a hand at some. I love Phil’s colorized Jack Kemp action shot. All those goofy football cards that try to emulate that pose, don’t even come close to the real thing.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 2:21 pm |

    Wow, haven’t seen a duffle bag like that http://www.greenxobl... since junior high. I had the Steelers version and used it as my book bag.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”388535″]I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    you should do an article featuring all kinds of photos like that. I like those so much better than today’s shots where they zoom in too close.

    That’s why I always liked the Fleer Action Series of NFL cards http://4.bp.blogspot... better than regular http://www.greenxobl... old football cards.

  • Miles | May 2, 2010 at 2:46 pm |

    Kudos to Ricko on today’s Benchies. The comic itself combined with his explanation made it the funniest one yet.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”388559″][quote comment=”388535″]I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    you should do an article featuring all kinds of photos like that. I like those so much better than today’s shots where they zoom in too close.

    That’s why I always liked the Fleer Action Series of NFL cards http://4.bp.blogspot... better than regular http://www.greenxobl... old football cards.[/quote]

    No airbrushing out the decals with Fleer cards as well. Hated the fact that they put out only a few of each team? I don’t know, I’m not an expert on Fleer. I just remember them having like 3, or 4 cards of each team?

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”388560″]Kudos to Ricko on today’s Benchies. The comic itself combined with his explanation made it the funniest one yet.[/quote]

    Is the fact that it’s spelt Bencies relevant to the strip today? Or, …..? I can’t see it cuz of the Flickr challenged thing.

  • Graham | May 2, 2010 at 3:26 pm |

    according to this article http://www.athleticb... Michigan will wear 1940’s throwback jerseys for next December’s Big Chill at the Big House. This website http://www.yostbuilt... has some picturs of unis from then. I agree with him in that the white with the shoulder strips are great. That in white with blue strips and maize trim would look amazing skating in front of 100,000 people.

  • Dave | May 2, 2010 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”388551″]Evan Longoria wearing stirrups today with the Rays powder blue tops. So far he’s 1-1 with a base knock.

    http://img413.images...

    Tough to see here, but it appears that Bossman is also wearing stirrups for the Rays today.

    http://img32.imagesh...

  • The Hemogoblin | May 2, 2010 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”388551″]Evan Longoria wearing stirrups today with the Rays powder blue tops. So far he’s 1-1 with a base knock.

    http://img413.images...

    He drilled a home run off Zack Greinke, so maybe he’ll stick with them. One can hope.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”388561″][quote comment=”388559″][quote comment=”388535″]I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    you should do an article featuring all kinds of photos like that. I like those so much better than today’s shots where they zoom in too close.

    That’s why I always liked the Fleer Action Series of NFL cards http://4.bp.blogspot... better than regular http://www.greenxobl... old football cards.[/quote]

    No airbrushing out the decals with Fleer cards as well. Hated the fact that they put out only a few of each team? I don’t know, I’m not an expert on Fleer. I just remember them having like 3, or 4 cards of each team?[/quote]

    If only we had a Fleer expert…
    http://fleersticker....

    Mike, you’ll like the card on the top middle:
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    I love the one right below it.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”388544″]You know, I’m always griping about teams tweaking their classic logos (tweak-for-tweaks-sake, or TFTS) and I was especially upset when the Seahawks altered their original into the angry, fierce bird we see now. I thought it was a slap in the face to the intent of the original’s Native American components.

    But Michael P., if the Haida illustration on your site is authentic…

    http://www.greenxobl...

    …then, in fact, the Seahawks got it right with the tweak, and are paying a more honest homage to the region’s Native cultures.[/quote]

    Good catch! That was done by Native Artist Jody Wilson, and his style is very reminiscent to the revised Hawks logo. I would not be surprised if someone over at the NFL Properties Design team, came across his work.

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”388557″][quote comment=”388553″]Another great column on a weekend. Great work Michael.

    I did like the original Sea Hawks uniforms and helmets.[/quote]

    Thanks Larry. have you seen all the fantastic colorizations yesterday? No doubt, you had a hand at some. I love Phil’s colorized Jack Kemp action shot. All those goofy football cards that try to emulate that pose, don’t even come close to the real thing.[/quote]

    larry is the king of colorization…i am just learning

    if you didn’t see it, here’s my weak-ass attempt at jack kemp

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 4:44 pm |

    Middle left – two of my least-favorite teams, but one great photo:
    http://3.bp.blogspot...
    I like that Giants at Cards one, as well.

    Top right – thought there was something odd, as it appears #51 is attempting a FG:
    http://3.bp.blogspot...
    Turns out LB Ted Thompson filled in and kicked four extra points that day.
    http://www.pro-footb...
    The Oilers didn’t wear white pants all that year, right? I know before and after that year they had blue pants.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 4:51 pm |

    Top middle – Nowadays I can barely watch this matchup:
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    Back then, wow, what a great pair of unis.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”388566″][quote comment=”388561″][quote comment=”388559″][quote comment=”388535″]I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    you should do an article featuring all kinds of photos like that. I like those so much better than today’s shots where they zoom in too close.

    That’s why I always liked the Fleer Action Series of NFL cards http://4.bp.blogspot... better than regular http://www.greenxobl... old football cards.[/quote]

    No airbrushing out the decals with Fleer cards as well. Hated the fact that they put out only a few of each team? I don’t know, I’m not an expert on Fleer. I just remember them having like 3, or 4 cards of each team?[/quote]

    If only we had a Fleer expert…
    http://fleersticker....

    Mike, you’ll like the card on the top middle:
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    I love the one right below it.[/quote]

    Oh yea, Airborne Carrier! Man those Dungard masks simply look sinister, Darth Vaderesque.

    Fleer Sticker project is the shit. I would peruse it more aften if I wasn’t so Flickr challenged on this computer. But all of that is about to change with my new laptop. Think I need to link the Fleet Sticker Project over at the Illustrated NFL.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 4:55 pm |

    http://www.greenxobl...

    Michael, If that is your stuff there, where did you get the Oregon helmet? The old leather one?

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”388570″]Top middle – Nowadays I can barely watch this matchup:
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    Back then, wow, what a great pair of unis.[/quote]

    what?

    this or this isn’t good?

    (actually, the falcs in red over white vs the iggles in white over midnight green isn’t too bad)

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 4:56 pm |

    You did a great job with the Jack Kemp by the way. Michael

  • traxel | May 2, 2010 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”388558″]Wow, haven’t seen a duffle bag like that http://www.greenxobl... since junior high. I had the Steelers version and used it as my book bag.[/quote]
    Yep, had the StL Cardinals one. Beat it to shreads in Jr. Hi.

    Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.

  • traxel | May 2, 2010 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”388535″]I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That looks like it could be a norman rockwell painting.

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”388576″][quote comment=”388535″]I know Mike Princip and others appreciate great football action shots. Sent him this one yesterday, and thought maybe I’d post it here, too.

    I’ll wager most here haven’t seen this one.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That looks like it could be a norman rockwell painting.[/quote]

    so tempting to take a shot at colorizing that one…

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”388573″][quote comment=”388570″]Top middle – Nowadays I can barely watch this matchup:
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    Back then, wow, what a great pair of unis.[/quote]

    what?

    this or this isn’t good?

    (actually, the falcs in red over white vs the iggles in white over midnight green isn’t too bad)[/quote]

    Yeah, I can handle that one, but usually it seems as if one of them goes with the black jersey. I think one time the Falcons went monochrome while the Eagles were in all white. Bleah.

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”388572″]http://www.greenxoblue.com/images/art_sea9.jpg

    Michael, If that is your stuff there, where did you get the Oregon helmet? The old leather one?[/quote]

    Yep, ebay. I can’t say for sure that it is an Oregon helmet, however, the leather is a crude green and the seller was from Northern California, and plus as you know they wore that syle in the late 40s. Thus, I’m callin’ it an Oregon helmet. ;o)

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    Never liked the wrap around idea. I believe it’s just a graphic thing, yet I like the break. Plus, a conjoined Osprey? Ugh, man that’s what my crappy Sears Rawlings helmet had. This shit don’t make no sense, and then I did a Nancy Kerrigan WHY!!!(holding up my helmet to the gods)

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    However, I like the way the Breakers and Bulls did the wrap around.

  • Paul | May 2, 2010 at 5:39 pm |

    Minnesota Wild will wear a 10th Anniversary Patch next year. It will have the roman numeral X instead of 10 because they play at the Xcel Energy Center
    http://www.twincitie...

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”388548″][quote comment=”388546″][quote comment=”388543″]i have one of those Bengals switchplate covers.

    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS
    BENGALS

    have a Reds one too[/quote]

    Do you remember where you bought it? I can’t remember if it’s a Sears thing or not? I know that they came out in ’72. I absolutely dig it because it has a player wearing a Bradshaw-esque Dungard facemask, DG 205.[/quote]

    Don’t recall tho Sears seems likely; dig this.
    http://img.photobuck...

    Holy Smokes!!! How did I miss that earlier? Those are both amazing. Thanks for sharing.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 2, 2010 at 5:51 pm |

    I can’t quite solve the Guess the Game from the Scoreboard yet, but that’s the first time I’ve ever seen the names of the umpires written out in full *and* in larger type than the inning numbers, the names of both of the two teams playing, and even their respective scores!

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 5:52 pm |

    oops sorry I did see that Phil did the Jack Kemp. I made a mistake on saying Michael did it.

    Good job Phil

  • BurghFan | May 2, 2010 at 6:20 pm |

    From yesterday:

    Two years into their stay in Atlanta, the Hawks broke out these snazzy blue & green unis (the same year the Vancouver Canucks brought that color scheme into the NHL).

    The California/Oakland Seals beat them to it. (I don’t know what the minor league Canucks’ colors were.)

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 6:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”388586″]oops sorry I did see that Phil did the Jack Kemp. I made a mistake on saying Michael did it.

    Good job Phil[/quote]

    thanks larry…

    i don’t know how you do it (or have the patience)

    here’s a start on that bills vs. pats

    must take a break…

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”388587″]From yesterday:

    Two years into their stay in Atlanta, the Hawks broke out these snazzy blue & green unis (the same year the Vancouver Canucks brought that color scheme into the NHL).

    The California/Oakland Seals beat them to it. (I don’t know what the minor league Canucks’ colors were.)[/quote]

    Not quite the same. Hawks were lime green. The other two were kelly.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”388589″][quote comment=”388587″]From yesterday:

    Two years into their stay in Atlanta, the Hawks broke out these snazzy blue & green unis (the same year the Vancouver Canucks brought that color scheme into the NHL).

    The California/Oakland Seals beat them to it. (I don’t know what the minor league Canucks’ colors were.)[/quote]

    Not quite the same. Hawks were lime green. The other two were kelly.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Lime.
    http://farm5.static....

  • Giancarlo | May 2, 2010 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”388589″][quote comment=”388587″]From yesterday:

    Two years into their stay in Atlanta, the Hawks broke out these snazzy blue & green unis (the same year the Vancouver Canucks brought that color scheme into the NHL).

    The California/Oakland Seals beat them to it. (I don’t know what the minor league Canucks’ colors were.)[/quote]

    Not quite the same. Hawks were lime green. The other two were kelly.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    No, he’s right though. I was thinking of just any kind of blue & green, and I somehow overlooked the Seals. Good catch.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”388588″][quote comment=”388586″]oops sorry I did see that Phil did the Jack Kemp. I made a mistake on saying Michael did it.

    Good job Phil[/quote]

    thanks larry…

    i don’t know how you do it (or have the patience)

    here’s a start on that bills vs. pats

    must take a break…[/quote]

    Looks good Phil. They are fun to try and fun to look at.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 7:30 pm |

    And i also want to thank squiddie for the Life pictures he always posts. I love the Life archives, I just do not like the search feature.

    Good job squiddie and keep it up.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2010 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”388579″][quote comment=”388572″]http://www.greenxoblue.com/images/art_sea9.jpg

    Michael, If that is your stuff there, where did you get the Oregon helmet? The old leather one?[/quote]

    Yep, ebay. I can’t say for sure that it is an Oregon helmet, however, the leather is a crude green and the seller was from Northern California, and plus as you know they wore that syle in the late 40s. Thus, I’m callin’ it an Oregon helmet. ;o)[/quote]

    I know what you mean about finding some old helmets. It does look like the ones I saw on that Oregon digital library site or from your cool web site.

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”388591″][quote comment=”388589″][quote comment=”388587″]From yesterday:

    Two years into their stay in Atlanta, the Hawks broke out these snazzy blue & green unis (the same year the Vancouver Canucks brought that color scheme into the NHL).

    The California/Oakland Seals beat them to it. (I don’t know what the minor league Canucks’ colors were.)[/quote]

    Not quite the same. Hawks were lime green. The other two were kelly.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    No, he’s right though. I was thinking of just any kind of blue & green, and I somehow overlooked the Seals. Good catch.[/quote]

    Yup, in that sense you’re right. Not a common combination in pro sports.

    To what extent, and for how long, has Tulane stirred powder blue in with their green? Didn’t see a lot of color images of the Green Wave until the last twenty years or so.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 9:02 pm |

    Out of nowhere, but just found this in my stuff.
    The College All Star Game. Had to be one of the last ones played.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 9:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”388596″]Out of nowhere, but just found this in my stuff.
    The College All Star Game. Had to be one of the last ones played.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That would have been ’72. Three more were played before the game ended in 1976. No game in ’74 because of the NFL player’s strike.

    —Ricko

  • M.Princip | May 2, 2010 at 9:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”388581″][quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    Never liked the wrap around idea. I believe it’s just a graphic thing, yet I like the break. Plus, a conjoined Osprey? Ugh, man that’s what my crappy Sears Rawlings helmet had. This shit don’t make no sense, and then I did a Nancy Kerrigan WHY!!!(holding up my helmet to the gods)[/quote]

    Here’s the kind of junk I had to deal with when I was kid(wrap around logo):

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Nowadays the kids have the nicer Franklin and Hutch helmets.

  • =bg= | May 2, 2010 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    I always wanted em to be wrap around, one continuous thing.

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”388599″][quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    I always wanted em to be wrap around, one continuous thing.[/quote]

    I’m with Princip on that one. First time I saw it I remember thinking that joining ends would have created a two-headed bird, not good design. As disconcerting as he separation might be, THE AMAZING TWO-HEAD SEAHAWK TRANSPLANTProbably best to divide them.

  • Ricko | May 2, 2010 at 9:28 pm |

    Opps, flying fingers inadvertently hit “Say It”

    I’m with Princip on that one. First time I saw it I remember thinking that joining ends would have created a two-headed bird, not good design. As disconcerting as the separation might be, THE AMAZING TWO-HEADED SEAHAWK TRANSPLANT would have been worse. Probably best to divide them.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 9:39 pm |

    well that was interesting…left the folks house with the mets up 5-2…come in sit down…it’s 10-5 fillies

    /but pop’s ok…so i really don’t care about the score

  • BuckeyeMark | May 2, 2010 at 10:18 pm |

    tremendous article today … Michael Princip is da man. had a similar experience with the Minnesota Vikings and similar difficulties finding Vike stuff far from Minnesota. wonder how many people today realize what it was like back in the 1970’s when Sears and Pennys were about the only suppliers of NFL stuff. can remember when the Sears Wishbook arrived … what day!

  • traxel | May 2, 2010 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”388602″]well that was interesting…left the folks house with the mets up 5-2…come in sit down…it’s 10-5 fillies

    /but pop’s ok…so i really don’t care about the score[/quote]
    Glad all is well! (with your dad, i mean)

  • traxel | May 2, 2010 at 10:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”388600″][quote comment=”388599″][quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    I always wanted em to be wrap around, one continuous thing.[/quote]

    I’m with Princip on that one. First time I saw it I remember thinking that joining ends would have created a two-headed bird, not good design. As disconcerting as he separation might be, THE AMAZING TWO-HEAD SEAHAWK TRANSPLANTProbably best to divide them.[/quote]
    Yep, two headed monster would not have been good. However, while the head design is great, it is obvious it was designed on a flat sheet of paper. No attention to the back. It needed versions 2.0 and 3.0 before it hit the field, IMO. I would have been taking a razor blade to the Sears helmet as a kid fo sho, Princip.

  • traxel | May 2, 2010 at 10:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”388599″][quote comment=”388580″][quote comment=”388575″]Maybe this has been covered, but it has always bothered me that the Seahawks helmet logo stops in the back the way it does. Two lines truncated only to see the other two from the other side. Could have made it a two headed monster I guess, but it has always looked like an unfinished product to me. Good article guys.[/quote]

    Wonder if the truncation inspired the Breakers and Bulls to design these wraparound beauties?
    http://www.oursports...
    http://www.legendary...

    That Breakers helmet is a good design, I always saw some sort of dove in there. Wrap around is okay on it and the Bulls. It was at least thought about during the design process. Really, that truncation is my only beef with the whole original Seahawks package. Like the overly large numbers, colors fit the coast/rain of the city, bird’s indian style fits. Not a deal breaker, but I still wish they’d have looked at it a little longer. Now, the current all blues….BLECH!!!!

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 11:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”388603″]tremendous article today … Michael Princip is da man.[/quote]

    indeed, and glad you liked it

    i’ll definitely be back with michael for v 2.0 in the next couple of months

    the man rocks

  • JTH | May 2, 2010 at 11:19 pm |

    Well timed post today, I guess. This is the color we just painted our mudroom.

    Anyway, my big intro to the Seahawks as a lad was when I went to Zip’s ice cream and they were out of Bears helmets for my sundae so I opted for the Seahawks one.

    I loved the colors and the logo design. Plus, I thought it was cool that the helmet had stripes extending from the back of the bird’s head that were horizontal rather than a traditional center stripe.

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”388603″]tremendous article today … Michael Princip is da man. had a similar experience with the Minnesota Vikings and similar difficulties finding Vike stuff far from Minnesota. wonder how many people today realize what it was like back in the 1970’s when Sears and Pennys were about the only suppliers of NFL stuff. can remember when the Sears Wishbook arrived … what day![/quote]

    I was a Penney’s catalog kid myself, but yeah, I know what you mean. The day we got the catalog was almost as good as Christmas day. And it was great while I was going through my Vikes/Bears/Oilers phases. Sure couldn’t find any of their stuff at the local stores then.

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2010 at 11:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”388609″]
    I was a Penney’s catalog kid myself.[/quote]

    some things never change ;)

  • JimV19 | May 2, 2010 at 11:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”388610″][quote comment=”388609″]
    I was a Penney’s catalog kid myself.[/quote]

    some things never change ;)[/quote]

    You know it, buddy. Although the toys aren’t as much fun these days, it’s still a good read.

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 1:00 am |

    hey pineapple, you out there?! gots any uni questions?

  • bob loblaw | May 3, 2010 at 1:01 am |

    [quote comment=”388602″]well that was interesting…left the folks house with the mets up 5-2…come in sit down…it’s 10-5 fillies

    /but pop’s ok…so i really don’t care about the score[/quote]

    I had a similar situation tonight. Left Pops’ place w/ the Mets up 5-3 and when I got home 10 minutes later, Johan was getting pummelled. Did Jerry fall asleep in the dugout or what??

    Glad to hear your Dad’s ok, Phil.

  • bob loblaw | May 3, 2010 at 1:06 am |

    [quote comment=”388612″]hey pineapple, you out there?! gots any uni questions?[/quote]

    No… but I is. roberto has arrived in NJ safe and sound, rpm3. Thanks, he looks great. Now, I’m contemplating my next iconic bobblehead…..

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 1:19 am |

    [quote comment=”388614″][quote comment=”388612″]hey pineapple, you out there?! gots any uni questions?[/quote]

    No… but I is. roberto has arrived in NJ safe and sound, rpm3. Thanks, he looks great. Now, I’m contemplating my next iconic bobblehead…..[/quote]
    bob~
    i love making iconic bobs.
    where oh where has my pineapple gone? oh where could she be?

  • pineapple | May 3, 2010 at 1:21 am |

    Not that I care about the Mets, but I was at the Stagger INN AGAIN and noticed the Mets Philly game, I know I’m hardly educated on these things, but Mets, Black, Really? Pick a body and go with it, its like the technicolor dream coat. Apparently, I have become a casualty of the stirrup guy.

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 1:28 am |

    [quote comment=”388616″]Not that I care about the Mets, but I was at the Stagger INN AGAIN and noticed the Mets Philly game, I know I’m hardly educated on these things, but Mets, Black, Really? Pick a body and go with it, its like the technicolor dream coat. Apparently, I have become a casualty of the stirrup guy.[/quote]

    where to begin? i suppose first, great call on the “what’s with the black”. but, they have been doing it for too long. still, i love that you know it ain’t right.
    i am cleaning out the studio, tying to maker the room for the p’apple after the graduamafication.

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 1:41 am |

    yes, the mets are dumb,we could go on about black, but the big question is will you be back in chicago for the pilsen circus? what of the horses ass photos? and watch it! but what of cinco de mole?

  • The Hemogoblin | May 3, 2010 at 1:48 am |

    [quote comment=”388616″]Apparently, I have become a casualty of the stirrup guy.[/quote]

    Welcome to the dark side.

  • pineapple | May 3, 2010 at 1:55 am |

    HEMOGLOBIN! Talk to me, whats up with your uniforms, I love Portland and their progressive ways but I have a hard time pickin your team during college football season due to their gaylord uni choices.

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 1:58 am |

    green~goblin also hates blue jesus birthday!!!

  • The Hemogoblin | May 3, 2010 at 2:05 am |

    Let’s see– all of my uniforms, quickly summed up.

    Blazers: Meh. Not bad, not great. Red jerseys are weird to me, as I grew up through the all-black era.

    Seahawks: I don’t mind the blue tones; everyone else here does.

    Mariners: Holy crap are those uniforms average.

    OREGON ATHLETICS ARE WHERE IT’S AT!

    I’m in love with our football uniforms and think the wings are the best thing since sliced bread. (Also, I’m freaking stoked we don’t have the vomit-yellow helmet anymore.)

    Any other UO team I can take or leave.

    Also, RPM, you swore you were never going to bring that up again. I like eclectic things, alright?!

    Also, did you happen to get that letter yet?

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 2:14 am |

    needed p’apple to have context on blue christmas post, not giving you shit.

  • pineapple | May 3, 2010 at 2:15 am |

    Okay, specific to college football I equate the “wings” with a bad R Kelley song, lots of lyrics and no poetry. How does it feel to be an overt commodity despite the blood sweat and tears your players shed to win? I suppose the only thing your missing is a Starbucks coffee patch on the sleeve.

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 2:21 am |

    pineapple is good at the roofus~goofus.

  • The Hemogoblin | May 3, 2010 at 2:23 am |

    It just wouldn’t be the same if we weren’t misunderstanding something, would it?

    That was definitely an interesting conversation that night though. Proofreading is my friend. Gotta remember to keep all of the words in my posts that should be there.

  • pineapple | May 3, 2010 at 2:28 am |

    Listen, I realize these things are subjective, and its only you me and the grizzly on sunday nights, and quite frankly, thats the draw for me as far as posting. But this a forum to express one’s opinion, and even though I think your school’s uni’s look like the costume design for the movie Dune, I wanted to let you know that I will be attending a wedding in Portland in the fall. Hopefully I will have a hot stirrup guy on my arm.

  • The Hemogoblin | May 3, 2010 at 2:31 am |

    My fruity friend,

    It doesn’t really bother me about the on-the-field being-Nike’s-billboard thing, because that corporation does tons for the school. Phil Knight built the library, the law library, renovated Autzen Stadium, built Matthew Knight Arena, renovated Hayward Field, etc. Plus, I really appreciate the unique relationship Oregon athletics has with Nike. There are all sorts of wonderful perks that come with the sponsorship.

    Succinctly: It’s worth it.

  • The Hemogoblin | May 3, 2010 at 2:35 am |

    [quote comment=”388627″]Listen, I realize these things are subjective, and its only you me and the grizzly on sunday nights, and quite frankly, thats the draw for me as far as posting. But this a forum to express one’s opinion, and even though I think your school’s uni’s look like the costume design for the movie Dune, I wanted to let you know that I will be attending a wedding in Portland in the fall. Hopefully I will have a hot stirrup guy on my arm.[/quote]

    No way! (I only said this because the spam word was “way.”)

    I happen to love the Rose City. It’s definitely doable for me.

    I happen to think that your husband looks like one of the soldiers from an old James Bond movie where Russia is the bad guy. (Not that I hold this against him; I’m a man who appreciates a good winter hat.)

    This community is weird, and that’s what makes it awesome. (That, and few people get my obsession with uniforms.)

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 2:39 am |

    [quote comment=”388627″]Listen, I realize these things are subjective, and its only you me and the grizzly on sunday nights, and quite frankly, thats the draw for me as far as posting. But this a forum to express one’s opinion, and even though I think your school’s uni’s look like the costume design for the movie Dune, I wanted to let you know that I will be attending a wedding in Portland in the fall. Hopefully I will have a hot stirrup guy on my arm.[/quote]

    hm, do they still have something called sunday conversation on the ee ess pee en? none the les, either way,see you next week green goblin!

    pilsen circus on saturday, who is in?

  • pineapple | May 3, 2010 at 2:57 am |

    yea yea yea, I get it, I once wore patchwork pants too (not really but I observed it), that doesn’t justify putting ketchup on a hot dog or putting wings on a uni that can’t visually make up its mind. Check your forefathers, classic is always in.

  • rpm | May 3, 2010 at 3:06 am |

    end scene. see see you next sunday for the moose and pineapple “show”

  • BurghFan | May 3, 2010 at 3:27 am |

    see see you next sunday for the moose and pineapple “show”

    Can we get William Conrad to narrate it? Or is that just moose and squirrel?

  • StLMarty | May 3, 2010 at 7:40 am |

    [quote comment=”388632″]yea yea yea, I get it, I once wore patchwork pants too (not really but I observed it), that doesn’t justify putting ketchup on a hot dog or putting wings on a uni that can’t visually make up its mind. Check your forefathers, classic is always in.[/quote]
    Ketchup on a hot dog is totally justifiable.

  • ASM | May 3, 2010 at 1:31 pm |

    b-boy hats?

  • Brent | May 3, 2010 at 5:29 pm |

    Loved looking at all the Seahawk info! Question for someone more informed than me – on the Greenxoblue.com site, there’s a picture of Jim Zorn wearing #12 against San Diego from the 1979 season. Why would he wear that number for just one game – did his jersey rip and no replacement was available, etc.? I searched the net to find out but had no luck. Anybody know?

  • M.Princip | May 3, 2010 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”388795″]Loved looking at all the Seahawk info! Question for someone more informed than me – on the Greenxoblue.com site, there’s a picture of Jim Zorn wearing #12 against San Diego from the 1979 season. Why would he wear that number for just one game – did his jersey rip and no replacement was available, etc.? I searched the net to find out but had no luck. Anybody know?[/quote]

    Yep, that’s exactly what happened. There’s a great picture out there where Zorn’s jersey was totally ripped up, and he’s looking at the official like, WTF?!?! 1979 against the Chargers at San Diego.