Uni Watch Play Date: RPM and JTH Go Curling

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[Editor's Note: Today we're honored to have a guest-written entry from Robert Marshall, who recently went curling with fellow Chicago reader James Huening. -- PL]

By Robert “RPM” Marshall

James “JTH” Huening and I went to the Chicago Curling Club on November 1st as part of their “learn to curl” program. The place was more or less like a country club. There was a lounge with a bar, and the locker room had fancy-pants stuff for your hair and liquids to gargle. There was also tons of great artwork with a curling theme, like this sculpture above the mantle.

And then there was the American Curling History Museum, curated by this gin-swilling fellow named Jim, who was a right proper bully gent. The museum mostly housed pins, but it had lots of cool artifacts too, like this teapot in the shape of a curling stone. Plus there were lots of great trophies that could make the hockey hall of fame jealous (some are shown on this page), and betwixt the museum and the bar was a really great curling-style schuffleboard game, complete with mini-stones.

After we finished casing the place, it was time to watch a short movie about extreme curling. Sort of a combination of this and this (keeping in mind that everyone outside of the curling cult knows the little message at the end of this clip). From there we stretched and headed out to the ice for some tutorials and strategy talks. That’s me on the right, with a few hair-control devices in place to keep my mop manageable. There was one guy on my team who not only didn’t appreciate my barrettes (go figure) but he also really sucked up to the teacher and requested fancy brooms while I, and I believe James too, opted for wood. Did I mention the ice featured a really cool clock?

Once the instructions were out of the way, it was time to throw a couple of “ends.” An end is when both teams throws eight stones (two by each player from the “hack” over the “hog line” aiming for the “button” at the center of the “house”). James was essentially his team’s captain (“lead” or “skip”), as illustrated here by the lady under the Canadian flag holding out her arm, which tells the curler which spin or curl to put on the stone, and where to aim. I was a lowly sweeper, which was quite the cardio workout, and I swear it’s true.

Now I don’t mean to brag (read: I totally mean to brag), but I happened to throw a stone that landed square on the button with nary a sweep. Notice how the ladies chasing it down are not sweeping. Of course, it was later knocked out by one of my teammates, but that’s okay (read: that’s not at all okay).

After our two “ends,” we retired to the lounge for our free Labbatts, which we followed with another free Labbatts provided by a Russian couple on James’s team not using their drink tickets, which we chased with a Labbatts bought for us by the club president who was recruiting both of us, but especially James, to join the cult. I have to say, as much fun as it was, it was very cult-esque, kind of like that table hockey league I played in. So cult = mostly good.

Let us now turn our attention to the Uni Watch portion of our program. Now, if you’ve follwed James’s posts in the comments section, I’m sure you have noticed that he’s a real swell fellow, but he must have woken up with a bee in his bonnet that day, and ready to start a fight — check this out. Can you believe it!? To the untrained eye it’s a nice kit, but let’s take a closer look at that hat. It’s a wool tweed herringbone worn by the IRISH, for the cornmother’s sake. And we were curling, a Scottish/Canadian sport. What gaul (sic)!!! He should have gone tam and kilt. I mean really, was he trying to get us kicked out of the joint with his tomfoolery? It was sooooo embarrassing.

Fortunately, one of us had it together and dressed with the dignity the sport requires. The sweater, I am embarrassed to say, I stitched for like eight hours (or until 5am) the night before. In addition to the tiger on the front, it had this on the back (translation: “Free Fighting / Wrestling Curling Club”) in glittered black felt.

So James, by virtue of being associated with me, was off the hook with the cult members who were shooting cartoon darts out of their eyes at his total fashion blunder Irish messabout. I swear, you can’t take him anywhere.

The best four minutes you’ll spend today: Paul here. The full Dock Ellis video clip, produced by No Mas, is now available. Do yourself a favor and watch it right now:

How great is that? (Answer: Very, very great.)

In case you hadn’t noticed: Page 2 got a big redesign this week, and the revised format includes a new Page 2 Blog, to which I posted a small contribution yesterday afternoon (it’s not perma-linked, so I can’t link directly to it, but it’s the one headlined “Spying on Roy Williams”). We’re all being encouraged to contributie to this new P2 blog, so I’ll probably have my fair share of stuff there. How will that affect this site? Here are some divisions of content I’ve been considering:

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In actuality, the P2 blog shouldn’t have any affect on us here, except that I might occasionally take an item that would have ended up in the Ticker, expand on it a bit, and run it on P2. I’ll try to notify you when that happens, probably via this thingie.

Oh, and speaking of tech thingies, Johnny Ek whispered four magic words in my ear yesterday: “Uni Watch iPhone app.” Not a reality yet, but he’s working on it.

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Coming soon: Uni Watch cattle-ranching uniforms: Thanks for all the positive feedback on yesterday’s beefsteak entry. Many of you inquired about beefsteak lore, beefsteak protocol, how you can throw your own beefsteak, etc. If you want to educate yourself on the topic, I strongly recommend two articles: The first and (by far the most important) is Joseph Mitchell’s seminal 1938 New Yorker piece, “All You Can Hold for Five Bucks,” which you can download as a PDF here. And at the risk of mooing my own horn, I think you’ll find my New York Times article+video about the North Jersey beefsteak scene instructive as well.

Several of you also inquired about meat-centric cookbooks. Personally, I lean heavily on The Complete Meat Cookbook, The River Cottage Meat Book, Charcuterie, The Whole Beast, Serious Barbecue, and probably a few others that are escaping me at the moment (I could check my kitchen bookshelf, but that would entail walking 15 entire feet, so forget it). That should be enough to get you started, yes? Yes.

FYI: The site will be down from about 2am-4am eastern Sunday, while our web host performs some basic server maintenance.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Avs have finally unveiled their alternate jersey, which looks just like I said it would (i.e., really bad) more than two months ago. … Awesome set of new pin-up illos from Rob Ullman. … “I was watching some of the new Battlestar Galactica series, which has a subplot about a sports team that ends up turning into a group of resistance fighters,” says Ed Hahn. “The team is the Caprica Buccaneers, and they have a logo. Also, one of the warm-ups from the series was up for sale on eBay Canada.” … Marty Turco discusses his new mask in this video clip (with thanks to William Banowsky). … Okay, so you knew Ron Guidry was nicknamed “Gator,” but did you know he had a little Izod alligator on his spikes? (Nice find by Thomas Huppé.) … How great would it be to play for a team called the Sheetrocks? (Great find, Kirsten.) … New World Cup kit for Russia. … Dylan Houser has designed a shoe collection for Puma, inspired by the 700 level at Veterans Stadium. Further details in this video clip. … Oh man, how cool is this! And no green dot on the back, I’m guessing (big thanks to Zak Kalina). … You know how college football teams sometimes have multiple players wearing the same uni number? That’s a real drag for at least one beat writer (with thanks to Nicholas Roznovsky). … “Happened to catch that Jane Lynch’s character on Glee sometimes wears an Adidas track suit with the logo on the back covered by patches,” notes Dan Cichalski. I mentioned that to Kirsten, who said Lynch’s track suit branding was recently discussed in this All Things Considered interview. “She [Lynch] said they’re slowing switching to Nike,” says Kirsten, “because Fox is big on Nike, or something to that effect. It comes up at the 2:00 mark in the interview.” Faaaaascinating. … Hahahaha, everyone laughed at Jay Cutler last night because he threw a shitload of interceptions wore a cap with the outdated NFL logo (good catch by Chuck Pearson). … Mother lode of contributions from Jeremy Brahm, including new logos for the 2011 Men’s Team Handball World Championships (pretty awesome, right?), the BJ League [basketball] All-Star Game, and the JBL All-Star Game, plus a basketball facemask that looks more like a bad Halloween costume. … And wait, more from Jeremy! “The Saitama Broncos of the BJ League have pickles on their uniform. Actually it is a Japanese eggplant — this is their sponsor. They also have a player whose NOB is a singular T.” … Scandalous news out of the Bronx, where it turns out that Yogi Berra’s retired 8 is upside-down, as you can cearly see by comparing it to Bill Dickey’s 8. Quick, fire the entire staff! … Remember that article from yesterday about eliminating football helmets altogether? Turns out that we could do that and still maintain the game’s visual integrity (with thanks to Russell Goutierez). … Lebron James says he’s going to change his uni number. … Even by the usual standards of corporate douchebaggery, this story really takes the biscuit. Please, Mr. Really Big Asteroid, just plow right into the planet already — we’re ready. Fuck, we’re overdue.

One last reminder: Assuming Mr. Really Big Asteroid takes a few days to process requests (I hear he’s a busy fella), I’ll look forward to seeing lots of you at the Uni Watch party on Sunday, 2:30pm, at Sheep Station. But once the party’s over, Mr. Asteroid, fire away.

 

177 comments to Uni Watch Play Date: RPM and JTH Go Curling

  • scott | November 13, 2009 at 8:07 am |

    The old NFL logo was also visible behind an NFL player (perhaps Cedric Benson?) who was being interviewed during the “five good minutes” segment on PTI this week.

  • JAson | November 13, 2009 at 8:22 am |

    I wonder if the USG Sheetrocks vintage uniform is from the same company that sponsors Matt Kenseth??

    http://www.mattkense...

  • John T | November 13, 2009 at 8:28 am |

    No mas video is also available on the SI site, is Paul freelancing with the enemy (first Hot clicks and now this….)

    http://sportsillustr...

    Great Video though, No Mas did a great job, and their site is even better

  • tmac3217 | November 13, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    Looks like the Twins will be unveiling their new jerseys on Monday. According to this article, there will only be subtle changes to the home uniform, and a pretty big re-design for the road.

    Star Tribune Link

  • Roger Faso | November 13, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    the doc ellis video is hella dope.

    sharing that one on the facebook.

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    did robert wear that mask during the entire curling episode?

    and that sweater? two words: awe some

    btw…i can see where why he likes that tiger head…since he sent me this suggestion for “fixin’ the tigers” about 100 years ago, and i’d totally forgotten aboot it until i saw that logo

    great stuff jth & rpm!

  • -Vince | November 13, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    I,ve been into curling for about 12 years, since I first saw it on the Olympics. I’ve been curling at the Potomac Curling Club (http://www.curldc.or...) for 4 years. I was really excited to see a house on the main page this morning.

    I’m glad that Robert & James had a good time. It really is a fantastic sport, played by a lot of great people.

    If anyone else is looking to try it, I’m sure there is a club near you. (http://www.kccurling...) Go, curl, drink, enjoy.

  • leon | November 13, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    USG=United States Gypsum

  • Paul Lukas | November 13, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    I would totally go curling if there was a place to do it in NYC.

    Hmmmm, business idea: Open a New York curling facility. Pure gold waiting to happen, or $$$ down the crapper? Discuss.

  • Josh | November 13, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    Florida has made a slight but huge change to their hoops unis. The duct tape sliver which caused me many sleepless nights is now gone. The blue stripe on the side, now refrains from wrapping onto the back and turning silver at the end.

    New Look:
    http://photos.gatorc...

    Old Look:
    http://www.gatorzone...

  • Juan Grande | November 13, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    I was watching the Eagles game when Celek pulled the “Captain Morgan” pose. My buddies and I instantly recognized it. We all joked that he’s receive a free case of rum for it. I guess he did better than that!

  • Juan Grande | November 13, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    Celek was penalized 15 yards for that pose. Why is it that the yardage is taken on the kickoff and not on the extra point attempt. A 33 yard XP is not an automatic plus it does give the other team a bit more of a chance to block it. At least give the defensive team the choice of moving the XP attempt back or the kickoff. If someone can explain why, please let me know.

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment="360156"]I would totally go curling if there was a place to do it in NYC.[/quote]

    oh hells yes…it pisses me off that we here in the states basically only get to see this once every four years…and then it’s on like bravo or something…nbc won’t even deign to put it on their regular channels

    [quote comment="360156"]Hmmmm, business idea: Open a New York curling facility. Pure gold waiting to happen, or $$$ down the crapper? Discuss.[/quote]

    there’d be unis right? like those awesome sweaters and such? (maybe not so much those marshall masks tho)

    might be something worth investigating, especially if the sport gets a bump in popularity at vancouver in a couple months

    love to see it in the city

  • Paul Lukas | November 13, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment="360159"]Celek was penalized 15 yards for that pose. Why is it that the yardage is taken on the kickoff and not on the extra point attempt. A 33 yard XP is not an automatic plus it does give the other team a bit more of a chance to block it. At least give the defensive team the choice of moving the XP attempt back or the kickoff. If someone can explain why, please let me know.[/quote]

    For starters, an extra point is not a “real” play — the clock doesn’t run, you can’t return a blocked kick or an interception for points, etc. It’s a specialized play that exists in its own little limbo. So “real”-world penalties aren’t applied to the XP.

    Also: If the *defense* were penalized right before an XP, the penalty would be half the distance to the goal line — which is one yard. So you’d open up the opportunity for all sorts of unsportsmanlike crap by the defense, since they’d know that the practical effect would be nil.

  • Juan Grande | November 13, 2009 at 9:24 am |

    Thanks Paul, I always wondered about that.

  • mmwatkin | November 13, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    So this blog is going to go back to more of a compliment to the ESPN articles? I have no problem with that, as long as the ESPN articles run a little more frequently (maybe the new layout will allow it).

    I can’t say I am surprised. I sensed that Paul was beginning to distance himself from this blog and pursue other interests (nothing wrong with that!) and Phil has done a fantastic job around here and probably isn’t given enough credit. Anyway, I like the culinary corner and whatnot, but I hope this website doesn’t go horribly off topic on a daily basis.

    Keep up the good work, guys.

  • -Vince | November 13, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=\"360156\"]I would totally go curling if there was a place to do it in NYC.

    Hmmmm, business idea: Open a New York curling facility. Pure gold waiting to happen, or $$$ down the crapper? Discuss.[/quote]

    I know there are people who curl at Plainfield http://www.njcurling... from NYC. They are great fun in Plainfield.

    Our operating budget is through the roof. Making & maintaining ice is expensive.

    As for popularity… Our club has been preparing for over a year for the upcoming olympics. We had such a turn out (myself included) from Torino that people were willing to wait in line for HOURS just to spend 15 minutes on the ice. You can see pictures here: http://www.curldc.co...

    The TV ratings were really good in Torino, so the word down the wire is that curling should get a little more mainstream play in Vancouver.

  • Jeremy M. | November 13, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    Nice Jacket – http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Chris from Carver | November 13, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    Wouldn’t players wearing #23 to honor Michael Jordan mean more than not allowing anyone to wear it, in order to honor him?

  • marc | November 13, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    i was watching that philly/dallas game and saw celek strike the captain pose. i recall thinking “hey, that looks like the captain morgan thing… he must be doing that for his douchebag (that word never gets old) frat buddies.” in retrospect, i wish he had been. to find there was corporate douchebaggery (see? still funny) afoot, it makes ochocinco’s hijinx charming in comparsion.

  • MPowers1634 | November 13, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment="360161"][quote comment="360159"]Celek was penalized 15 yards for that pose. Why is it that the yardage is taken on the kickoff and not on the extra point attempt. A 33 yard XP is not an automatic plus it does give the other team a bit more of a chance to block it. At least give the defensive team the choice of moving the XP attempt back or the kickoff. If someone can explain why, please let me know.[/quote]

    For starters, an extra point is not a “real” play — the clock doesn’t run, you can’t return a blocked kick or an interception for points, etc. It’s a specialized play that exists in its own little limbo. So “real”-world penalties aren’t applied to the XP.

    Also: If the *defense* were penalized right before an XP, the penalty would be half the distance to the goal line — which is one yard. So you’d open up the opportunity for all sorts of unsportsmanlike crap by the defense, since they’d know that the practical effect would be nil.[/quote]

    Correct. A PAT is an untimed scrimmage kick. The following free kick is where the penalty will be assessed.

    In addition, an unsportsmanlike player foul is a dead ball foul, which is penalized from the succeeding spot, which would be the place of the next snap, except for Paul’s practical explanation.

  • dwight | November 13, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment="360166"]Wouldn’t players wearing #23 to honor Michael Jordan mean more than not allowing anyone to wear it, in order to honor him?[/quote]

    Somewhat agree Chris, like 42 in MLB – I could go either way. I think when teams retire a number, it’s to honor, same w/ people wearing said number – as a recognition.

  • leon | November 13, 2009 at 9:44 am |

    I hope Dock Ellis will be kept out of the Hall of Fame for the use of performance-enhancing drugs! (anybody at Balco watching this?)

    Imagine what a bummer it would have been if he had hit one of those speed freaks with a pitch. Would have made for high drama to see one of those batters go all George Brett-Pine Tar Incident on him.

    From here on out, all pitchers tossing no-nos should be subject to immediate testing: their reaction to the playing of “Helter-Skelter” should suffice.

  • Mark K | November 13, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    I was in a beginner curling league for a season or two a few years ago. The curling itself was fun but the folks there were all sort of oddballs.

    Probably would be a huge market for such a thing in NYC.

  • Ian K | November 13, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    Today is “Wear Purple” Day. Officially declared by the mayor of Fort Worth, in support of the TCU Horned Frogs!
    http://www.star-tele...

    GO FROGS!

  • Mark K | November 13, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment="360161"][quote comment="360159"]Celek was penalized 15 yards for that pose. Why is it that the yardage is taken on the kickoff and not on the extra point attempt. A 33 yard XP is not an automatic plus it does give the other team a bit more of a chance to block it. At least give the defensive team the choice of moving the XP attempt back or the kickoff. If someone can explain why, please let me know.[/quote]

    For starters, an extra point is not a “real” play — the clock doesn’t run, you can’t return a blocked kick or an interception for points, etc. It’s a specialized play that exists in its own little limbo. So “real”-world penalties aren’t applied to the XP.

    Also: If the *defense* were penalized right before an XP, the penalty would be half the distance to the goal line — which is one yard. So you’d open up the opportunity for all sorts of unsportsmanlike crap by the defense, since they’d know that the practical effect would be nil.[/quote]
    Not sure about NFL but in NCAA those penalties can be applied to either the PAT or the succeeding kickoff at the option of the offended team. The offense will usually choose the kickoff since it would be only a short half the distance on the PAT and they’re going for 1 anyway.

    Remember the Washington game last year where the player launched the ball into the air after scoring the TD? The defense chose to enforce on the PAT to give them a longer attempt- which they then missed. They did have the option to enforce on the kickoff- which would have been a bad choice in that case.

  • Kaptain K | November 13, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    The new Russian football kit is an instant classic! Very nice look, and the socks are the finishing touch… well done Adidas!

  • leon | November 13, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    “Alright hosers. I want all 12 of us fighting for every meter on all 3 downs. We’re gonna make this a Boxing Day the Prime Minister will never forget.”

  • Christopher | November 13, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment="360149"]I wonder if the USG Sheetrocks vintage uniform is from the same company that sponsors Matt Kenseth??

    http://www.mattkense...

    I’d think so. As far as I know (my dad worked there for like 20 years as a lawyer), USG owns the term “Sheetrock”. Notice its copywritten/circle-R on the 17 car you posted.

    I’m tremendously interested- I’d love to get my hands on that uni.

  • Christopher | November 13, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment="360176"][quote comment="360149"]I wonder if the USG Sheetrocks vintage uniform is from the same company that sponsors Matt Kenseth??

    http://www.mattkense...

    I’d think so. As far as I know (my dad worked there for like 20 years as a lawyer), USG owns the term “Sheetrock”. Notice its copywritten/circle-R on the 17 car you posted.

    I’m tremendously interested- I’d love to get my hands on that uni.[/quote]

    Ok, this is the clincher, go here:
    http://www.usg.com/a...

    And go to the 1940′s. Indeed the logo on the sleeve of that uni is the USG logo from the 1940′s.

    Cool stuff!

  • Lwiedy | November 13, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment="360159"]Celek was penalized 15 yards for that pose. [/quote]

    I don’t think the penalty was on Celek. IIRC he was having a little trouble executing the pose and a buddy came along and helped him, making it “a non-solo celebration” or whatever it’s called which calls for the 15.

  • chance michaels | November 13, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment="360172"]Today is “Wear Purple” Day. Officially declared by the mayor of Fort Worth, in support of the TCU Horned Frogs!
    http://www.star-tele...

    GO FROGS![/quote]
    I hope they’re paying royalties to Gogol Bordello. :p

  • Geenf | November 13, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment="360166"]Wouldn’t players wearing #23 to honor Michael Jordan mean more than not allowing anyone to wear it, in order to honor him?[/quote]

    Sounds like a ploy to sell more jerseys (see Bryant, Kobe)

  • Paul Lukas | November 13, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment="360163"]So this blog is going to go back to more of a compliment to the ESPN articles? I have no problem with that, as long as the ESPN articles run a little more frequently (maybe the new layout will allow it).

    I can’t say I am surprised. I sensed that Paul was beginning to distance himself from this blog and pursue other interests (nothing wrong with that!) and Phil has done a fantastic job around here and probably isn’t given enough credit. Anyway, I like the culinary corner and whatnot, but I hope this website doesn’t go horribly off topic on a daily basis.

    Keep up the good work, guys.[/quote]

    Um, hello? Maybe you missed this line: “In actuality, the P2 blog shouldn’t have any affect on us here.”

  • diggerjohn111 | November 13, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment="360170"]I hope Dock Ellis will be kept out of the Hall of Fame for the use of performance-enhancing drugs! (anybody at Balco watching this?)

    I don’t know. LSD has nothing to do with performance-enhancement at all. I think he should have a special spot in the Hall for doing that, along with Welles’ alcohol antics. To be able to stand in front of a crowd of over 45,000 on LSD without freaking out is herculean, forget pitching a no-no!

  • Peter S | November 13, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    Curling is an amazing sport, it’s just sad it’s taken most of the rest of the world this long to discover it! Glad you guys had a great time in Chicago. It’s too bad that curling has become a uni-related black hole. No one really wears sweaters anymore (except that one team) and the track suits aren’t that inspiring. The one thing that curlers do really well though is patches. They give out patches for all kinds of events and most look amazing.
    This probably isn’t the right forum to ask this, but if there is anyone from out West who has information about the former two-story curling club in Calgary could you drop me a line thealderfork{at}gmail{dot}com

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment="360153"]did robert wear that mask during the entire curling episode?[/quote]
    Nah, he didn’t wear it when he was sweeping (sorry there are no action photos), but he did put it on every time it was his turn to throw.

    I’m pretty sure the bobby pins or barrettes or whatever they were stayed in the entire time, though.

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    Irish hat’s a problem?
    How ’bout the Mexican wrestler look?
    (meaning the mask).

    Nahhhh…just funnin’ ya.

    Although rpm’s article was really kinda difficult to read today, what with all the capital letters and punctuation an’ stuff.

    ;)

    —Ricko

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment="360185"]Irish hat’s a problem?
    How ’bout the Mexican wrestler look?
    (meaning the mask).

    Nahhhh…just funnin’ ya.

    Although rpm’s article was really kinda difficult to read today, what with all the capital letters and punctuation an’ stuff.

    ;)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I can send you the first draft if you want it.

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment="360186"][quote comment="360185"]Irish hat’s a problem?
    How ’bout the Mexican wrestler look?
    (meaning the mask).

    Nahhhh…just funnin’ ya.

    Although rpm’s article was really kinda difficult to read today, what with all the capital letters and punctuation an’ stuff.

    ;)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I can send you the first draft if you want it.[/quote]

    That’s okay, I managed to fight my way through it as posted here today.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment="360175"]“Alright hosers. I want all 12 of us fighting for every meter on all 3 downs. We’re gonna make this a Boxing Day the Prime Minister will never forget.”[/quote]

    You saw that too? They got the 12 right, and the three downs, but they use yards in Canadian football, and by Boxing Day the season’s been over for a month (and the Great White North is probably covered in a meter of snow). Funny, but do a better job of research, NBC…

  • EricRomain | November 13, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    Re: The Marty Turco mask video

    The camera was about 6 feet away from the mask and the paintjob was so overdesigned that i couldn’t make out ANY of the detail.

    This trend has annoyed me to no end during the last 15 years. If you can’t make out what’s on a mask from the crowd. A lot of goalies look like they just plop as much crap as they can, and it ends up looking like one of those airbrushed shirts you can get in shop at a coastal tourist town. Then it is too busy. The simpler to the point designs will always go down as the classics.

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment="360189"]The simpler to the point designs will always go down as the classics.[/quote]

    I believe that sentiment should be law for EVERY SINGLE CASE OF UNIFORMS EVER PRODUCED OR THAT EVER WILL BE PRODUCED.

    Just wanted to highlight that for anyone who works at Nike/Reebok/anyone else who designs uniforms.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment="360156"]I would totally go curling if there was a place to do it in NYC.

    Hmmmm, business idea: Open a New York curling facility. Pure gold waiting to happen, or $$$ down the crapper? Discuss.[/quote]

    I say it would be pure gold, but if cost is an issue, open a combination shuffleboard/curling facility, a bigger version of the mini game Robert pictured in the article.

    I’d play that. I keep wanting to do something like that at a park near my house. They have a carpeted bocce ball court, but in the fall they take up the carpet. The concrete would be perfect for sliding some modified curling stones (or stones with rollers on them?) I’ve even wondered if you can do it with bowling balls.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 13, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    celek was penalized for excessive celebration b/c another player touched his leg to help him strike the captain morgan pose. if he’d done it by himself, he might not have been penalized, but when players touch each other in order to execute some elaborate TD celebration, it’s flagged.

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    You know what really bugs me about Celek’s idiotic Captain Morgan celebration?

    The dipshit didn’t even raise the correct leg.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    Robert Marshall: http://i853.photobuc...

    Paul Benedict (the Mad Painter from Sesame Street, but better known as George Jefferson’s neighbor Mr. Bentley): http://images1.wikia...

    Ever see them in the same room together? I didn’t think so…

  • War Damn Eagle | November 13, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment="360193"]You know what really bugs me about Celek’s idiotic Captain Morgan celebration?

    The dipshit didn’t even raise the correct leg.[/quote]

    Even Condi know it’s the left leg.

    http://www.democrati...

    http://www.circlegra...

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    Nice article, Robert. Nice mask, too. And James, even with an Irish hat the uni worked for me. Hope you guys had fun.

    I think there’s one place in the Cleveland area that does curling, but it’s in a real country club. We need to have something for the massses. I know, convince your local bowling alley to rip up 4 lanes and put in a spot for curling. If they’d give you a discount for joining both a bowling league and a curling league, I’d sign up.

  • jeag | November 13, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    Interesting that LeBron would change his number, since it’s a part of his shoe logo. I wonder if the Nike people will have anything to say about this.

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment="360198"]Interesting that LeBron would change his number, since it’s a part of his shoe logo. I wonder if the Nike people will have anything to say about this.[/quote]

    Probably say, “Cool. As long as we have enough notice, a chance to ‘re-sell’ the entire customer base. Can’t be wearing OLD LeBrons, now can they.”

    —Ricko

  • John T | November 13, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment="360189"]Re: The Marty Turco mask video

    The camera was about 6 feet away from the mask and the paintjob was so overdesigned that i couldn’t make out ANY of the detail.

    This trend has annoyed me to no end during the last 15 years. If you can’t make out what’s on a mask from the crowd. A lot of goalies look like they just plop as much crap as they can, and it ends up looking like one of those airbrushed shirts you can get in shop at a coastal tourist town. Then it is too busy. The simpler to the point designs will always go down as the classics.[/quote]

    Is this the new mask? Couldn’t see the video for some reason
    http://bit.ly/2G7sw2

  • BW Radley | November 13, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    Great video–however, I am surprised that no one has yet mentioned that the Pirates didn’t change over to the double-knit uniforms until they moved into Three Rivers Stadium, which was several weeks after Ellis’ no-hitter.

    (Also, there was 9903 in attendance at this game. http://www.retroshee...)

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    LeBron should pick a different number than 6.

    “I just think what Michael Jordan has done for the game has to be recognized some way soon,” James said. “There would be no LeBron James, no Kobe Bryant, no Dwyane Wade if there wasn’t Michael Jordan first.”

    Well, there would be no Michael Jordan if there wasn’t Dr. J first. So let’s retire #6. While we’re at it, let’s retire Magic’s and Bird’s numbers. No, better yet, let’s nip this in the bud. The Bulls already retired his number. That’s enough. If LeBron wants to switch, fine, but let’s not make it a league-wide thing.

  • Alec | November 13, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    I just got my creamsicle jersey in the mail and I’m amazed at how light a shade it is. The dazzle cloth doesn’t really help things.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    I learned something after looking more into the Caprica Buccaneers from the new Battlestar Galactica (which I still say is nowhere near as good as the original series): The Bucs play Pyramid, which in the original series was called Triad. Pyramid was a card game. Apparently one of the producers transposed the names and never corrected it.

    As good as the original series was, I will admit the old Triad unis were pretty bad: http://media.battles...

  • mike 2 | November 13, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment="360191"]

    I’d play that. I keep wanting to do something like that at a park near my house. They have a carpeted bocce ball court, but in the fall they take up the carpet. The concrete would be perfect for sliding some modified curling stones (or stones with rollers on them?) I’ve even wondered if you can do it with bowling balls.[/quote]

    It might be fun but it wouldn’t be curling – the essence of curling is that the turn you put on the rocks makes them, well, curl behind other rocks. I’ve curled on ice that wasn’t pebbled properly (the rocks didn’t curl as a result) and it wasn’t fun at all.

    Peter S – I live in Calgary and have no recollection of a two story curling club.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment="360204"]I learned something after looking more into the Caprica Buccaneers from the new Battlestar Galactica (which I still say is nowhere near as good as the original series): The Bucs play Pyramid, which in the original series was called Triad. Pyramid was a card game. Apparently one of the producers transposed the names and never corrected it.

    As good as the original series was, I will admit the old Triad unis were pretty bad: http://media.battles...

    Okay, it won’t let me show them. Basically, they were a masculine version of these: http://blogs.dallaso...

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment="360206"][quote comment="360204"]I learned something after looking more into the Caprica Buccaneers from the new Battlestar Galactica (which I still say is nowhere near as good as the original series): The Bucs play Pyramid, which in the original series was called Triad. Pyramid was a card game. Apparently one of the producers transposed the names and never corrected it.

    As good as the original series was, I will admit the old Triad unis were pretty bad: http://media.battles...

    Okay, it won’t let me show them. Basically, they were a masculine version of these: http://blogs.dallaso...

    One more try: http://media1.break....

  • Jon in SLC | November 13, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    On the plus side of the Avs third jersey, no Reebox. Small victories.

  • Christopher | November 13, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment="360202"]LeBron should pick a different number than 6.

    “I just think what Michael Jordan has done for the game has to be recognized some way soon,” James said. “There would be no LeBron James, no Kobe Bryant, no Dwyane Wade if there wasn’t Michael Jordan first.”

    Well, there would be no Michael Jordan if there wasn’t Dr. J first. So let’s retire #6. While we’re at it, let’s retire Magic’s and Bird’s numbers. No, better yet, let’s nip this in the bud. The Bulls already retired his number. That’s enough. If LeBron wants to switch, fine, but let’s not make it a league-wide thing.[/quote]

    Correct. The 42 thing makes sense. It was a major moment in American- if not World- history. Michael Jordan was not. He was just really, really, really good with the Bulls and horrible at everything else.

  • Terence M. K. | November 13, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    … Awesome set of new pin-up illos from Rob Ullman. I’d say this one ranks among his best ever, plus let’s give special props to Dawn Santin, who’s actually a Yankees fan but commissioned this portrait of herself as a wedding present for her Phils-obsessed husband. …

    HILARIOUS new Rob Ullman comic strip posted today:

    http://www.richmondm...

    Damn Yankees!…LOL

    Terence M.K.

  • pflava | November 13, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    I’ll say this about LeBron – he never should have gone with 23 in the first place.

  • Jon in SLC | November 13, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=\"360211\"]I\’ll say this about LeBron – he never should have gone with 23 in the first place.[/quote]

    Here, Here. He should have blazed his own trail.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    Since major sports go on the Page 2 site, you may want to add this, Paul…indoor soccer resumes play tonight!

    Introducing the third conception of the Major Indoor Soccer League: http://www.baltimore...
    The Baltimore Blast host the Rockford Rampage in a rematch of last year’s National Indoor Soccer League championship. Go Blast!

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment="360208"]On the plus side of the Avs third jersey, no Reebox. Small victories.[/quote]

    Are you kidding me? It’s HUGELY represented. It’s three letters wide on Stastny’s jersey. Do you really think Reebok would remove their branding?

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment="360209"][quote comment="360202"]LeBron should pick a different number than 6.

    “I just think what Michael Jordan has done for the game has to be recognized some way soon,” James said. “There would be no LeBron James, no Kobe Bryant, no Dwyane Wade if there wasn’t Michael Jordan first.”

    Well, there would be no Michael Jordan if there wasn’t Dr. J first. So let’s retire #6. While we’re at it, let’s retire Magic’s and Bird’s numbers. No, better yet, let’s nip this in the bud. The Bulls already retired his number. That’s enough. If LeBron wants to switch, fine, but let’s not make it a league-wide thing.[/quote]

    Correct. The 42 thing makes sense. It was a major moment in American- if not World- history. Michael Jordan was not. He was just really, really, really good with the Bulls and horrible at everything else.[/quote]

    Absolutely true. Robinson’s number wasn’t retired because he was the greatest player ever in his sport. For one thing, that’s a tough accolade to unilaterally declare, or to put up to public vote. Cuz, y’know, right where you’re positive it should be #9 for Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull maybe, this Gretzky kid comes along.

    Ah, but for being the central figure in a culture-changing “experiment” in American history that’s effect was felt FAR beyond the playing field…that’s something else again.

    —Ricko

  • UniMan | November 13, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    “James was essentially his team’s captain (”lead” or “skip”)”

    Lead and Skip are NOT interchangeable.

    The Lead throws the first two stones. The “Skip” is the team captain and usually throws 7 and 8.

    Freakin’ Americans.

  • the BIG EGO | November 13, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment="360211"]I’ll say this about LeBron – he never should have gone with 23 in the first place.[/quote]

    No the dope should never have had “CHOSEN 1″ Tattooed across his back

    This is the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard of… retire the number for that jerk… what did he (jordan) do to blaze trails like Jackie? HUH? NOTHING but whine about not wearing someone else’s shoes…remember the dream team was a REEBOK Sponsored team in 1992???

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment="360210"]… Awesome set of new pin-up illos from Rob Ullman. I’d say this one ranks among his best ever, plus let’s give special props to Dawn Santin, who’s actually a Yankees fan but commissioned this portrait of herself as a wedding present for her Phils-obsessed husband. …

    HILARIOUS new Rob Ullman comic strip posted today:

    http://www.richmondm...

    Damn Yankees!…LOL

    Terence M.K.[/quote]

    Mets have a lot of money. How they doin’?
    Eight World Series were won by someone other than the Yankees between their two most recent wins.
    A lotta money will get you laid regularly by women who otherwise wouldn’t talk to you.
    And maybe make people jealous, and cause them to dislike you.
    But it doesn’t guarantee victories on the field.

    —Ricko

  • -Vince | November 13, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=\"360214\"][quote comment=\"360208\"]On the plus side of the Avs third jersey, no Reebox. Small victories.[/quote]

    Are you kidding me? It\’s HUGELY represented. It\’s three letters wide on Stastny\’s jersey. Do you really think Reebok would remove their branding?[/quote]

    He means the ReeBOX that highlights the logo… not the vector thingy itself. You can see a good example on this current Panthers jersey:
    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

  • Juggernaut | November 13, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    Football should wear equipment like rugby players do (superior sport in every way anyway) and allow scrum caps and light padding, but maybe something a little sturdier than the neoprene padding players wear. If they actually made players tackle, rather than just ram into people (so no players just down by contact, you can keep going if you’re not brought down by a tackle) it would force players to do something besides use their body as a projectile. In rugby you have to tackle and bring the player down and you are required to “enter through the gate”. The rules these days really lend themselve to the protection of the players and a more free-flowing game. Making it so players would actually have to wrap a player up and bring him to the ground would make a huge difference.

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment="360219"][quote comment=\"360214\"][quote comment=\"360208\"]On the plus side of the Avs third jersey, no Reebox. Small victories.[/quote]

    Are you kidding me? It\’s HUGELY represented. It\’s three letters wide on Stastny\’s jersey. Do you really think Reebok would remove their branding?[/quote]

    He means the ReeBOX that highlights the logo… not the vector thingy itself. You can see a good example on this current Panthers jersey:
    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    OHHHHH… my bad. All I see is light blue when I close my eyes. And then the tears begin to roll down my cheeks.

    Sorry, Jon!

  • Juggernaut | November 13, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=\"360217\"][quote comment=\"360211\"]I\’ll say this about LeBron – he never should have gone with 23 in the first place.[/quote]

    No the dope should never have had \”CHOSEN 1\” Tattooed across his back

    This is the STUPIDEST thing I have ever heard of… retire the number for that jerk… what did he (jordan) do to blaze trails like Jackie? HUH? NOTHING but whine about not wearing someone else\’s shoes…remember the dream team was a REEBOK Sponsored team in 1992???[/quote]

    Retire 32 and 33 for Magic and Bird, who did more to save the NBA than Jordan did.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    MISL unis:

    Baltimore Blast (other than the First Mariner Bank logo, pretty sharp): http://umbcdawgblog....

    Milwaukee Wave (sponsored by Time Warner Roadrunner DSL, unfortunately): http://www.milwaukee...

    Philadelphia Kixx (no sponsor yet): http://kixxonline.co...

    LaRaZa Monterrey: http://laraza.com.mx...

    Rockford Rampage: For a team that made the final last year you’d think I’d be able to find some photos. Basically they’re black with neon green trim with a neon FatWallet.com logo on the jersey. You’re not missing much by not seeing it.

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment="360154"]I,ve been into curling for about 12 years, since I first saw it on the Olympics. I’ve been curling at the Potomac Curling Club (http://www.curldc.or...) for 4 years. I was really excited to see a house on the main page this morning.

    I’m glad that Robert & James had a good time. It really is a fantastic sport, played by a lot of great people.

    If anyone else is looking to try it, I’m sure there is a club near you. (http://www.kccurling...) Go, curl, drink, enjoy.[/quote]

    ah-ha! see man, it’s a cult!!

    a few things…
    really? hard to read? that’s as straight forward as i can write. and capital letters are elitist ricko, or at the very least, like cookbooks 15 feet away, the shift key is just to far off. no no, i just don’t like capital letters, they don’t look right, make my skin crawl, i won’t use ‘em, and you can’t make me. what looks better M or m? I or i? no contest, the itty-bitty letters are soft, comforting, the big ones scream. ask james, i don’t like confrontation:)

    i was being sarcastic when i was ribbing james for bringing an irish hat to a scottish party. he could not have been dressed better, he is class all the way, while i was dressed like a total jack ass. was the sarcasm not as obvious as stink lines on a cartoon? i would say 40% of the cult loved it, and thought it was a funny kit, and 60% thought i was a freak. so roughly 1/2 the club was right.

    actually i did wear the mask sweeping on at least 9 of 12 stones, but i would rip it off out of fear that i was having a heart attack immediately after i got the stone to the house.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment="360220"]Football should wear equipment like rugby players do (superior sport in every way anyway) and allow scrum caps and light padding, but maybe something a little sturdier than the neoprene padding players wear. If they actually made players tackle, rather than just ram into people (so no players just down by contact, you can keep going if you’re not brought down by a tackle) it would force players to do something besides use their body as a projectile. In rugby you have to tackle and bring the player down and you are required to “enter through the gate”. The rules these days really lend themselve to the protection of the players and a more free-flowing game. Making it so players would actually have to wrap a player up and bring him to the ground would make a huge difference.[/quote]

    Tackle Football…interesting concept!

    I agree. I never thought I’d say this, since I like the look of football helmets, but I’d rather see scrum caps or some other minimal headgear worn in a combination of football and rugby. I wouldn’t miss the big bone-jarring hits at all – it would still be a rough game, and players might actually come out of it with their brains intact.

  • James P. | November 13, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    Fellow Uni Watch readers, I am in need of your assistance!

    My father-in-law grew up in the Narrows area of Brooklyn in the 50s and played in the Narrows Civic Association Youth Baseball League. I am unable to find anything on the league, much less any images. Is there anyone here that can hlep me out? I am looking to recreate his baseball uniform jesery for a Christmas present since he was medically unable to attend his oldest daughter’s and my wedding recently.

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment="360194"]Robert Marshall: http://i853.photobuc...

    Paul Benedict (the Mad Painter from Sesame Street, but better known as George Jefferson’s neighbor Mr. Bentley): http://images1.wikia...

    Ever see them in the same room together? I didn’t think so…[/quote]

    ha ha ha, that’s funny. i have a foo man choo now though, you’ll need to find another one for that if i am ever snapped with it.

  • Jeremy Brahm | November 13, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment="360226"]Fellow Uni Watch readers, I am in need of your assistance!

    My father-in-law grew up in the Narrows area of Brooklyn in the 50s and played in the Narrows Civic Association Youth Baseball League. I am unable to find anything on the league, much less any images. Is there anyone here that can hlep me out? I am looking to recreate his baseball uniform jesery for a Christmas present since he was medically unable to attend his oldest daughter’s and my wedding recently.[/quote]

    From what I can find it is in the Bensonhurst area of Brooklyn.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment="360227"][quote comment="360194"]Robert Marshall: http://i853.photobuc...

    Paul Benedict (the Mad Painter from Sesame Street, but better known as George Jefferson’s neighbor Mr. Bentley): http://images1.wikia...

    Ever see them in the same room together? I didn’t think so…[/quote]

    ha ha ha, that’s funny. i have a foo man choo now though, you’ll need to find another one for that if i am ever snapped with it.[/quote]

    I sense a challenge – snap away, then, my good man.

    How’d the softball game go? Any truth to the rumor that the big swoosh company is going to design new, lighter unis for you guys to make you play better? By the way, it’s November…shouldn’t you Chicagoans be playing indoor wiffleball this time of year? ;)

  • Straw | November 13, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    The Dock Ellis bit – just wonderful.

  • EddieAtari | November 13, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment="360226"]Fellow Uni Watch readers, I am in need of your assistance!

    My father-in-law grew up in the Narrows area of Brooklyn in the 50s and played in the Narrows Civic Association Youth Baseball League. I am unable to find anything on the league, much less any images. Is there anyone here that can hlep me out? I am looking to recreate his baseball uniform jesery for a Christmas present since he was medically unable to attend his oldest daughter’s and my wedding recently.[/quote]

    According to my research, the Narrows Civic Association, a non-profit corporation, was officially dissolved in 1993. Their last known address, 7907 New Utrecht Ave., is a community center now run by Catholic Charities. It’s possible that Catholic Charities might have held onto the records, photos, etc., of the old organization. Here’s their contact info:

    Catholic Charities
    Narrows Civic Center
    7907 New Utrecht Ave
    Brooklyn, NY 11214-1611
    (718) 256-1166

    … Also, you might want to check with the local library:

    Brooklyn Public Library
    New Utrecht Branch
    1743 86th St.
    Brooklyn, NY 11214
    (718) 236-4086 tel.
    Website: (http://bit.ly/3c5fwk)

    Good luck!

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    From last night’s comments:

    Finally an update, and another year of waiting for the new USFL http://www.newusfl.c...

    Ricko brought up a silver lining I hadn’t considered – they’re waiting until the impending 2011 NFL work stoppage. Good timing, if that is indeed their idea.

  • -Vince | November 13, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment="360224"][quote comment="360154"]I,ve been into curling for about 12 years, since I first saw it on the Olympics. I’ve been curling at the Potomac Curling Club (http://www.curldc.or...) for 4 years. I was really excited to see a house on the main page this morning.

    I’m glad that Robert & James had a good time. It really is a fantastic sport, played by a lot of great people.

    If anyone else is looking to try it, I’m sure there is a club near you. (http://www.kccurling...) Go, curl, drink, enjoy.[/quote]

    ah-ha! see man, it’s a cult!!

    [/quote]

    Yup, it sure is. It is the only reason I get up early on Saturdays: Breakfast curling.
    mmmmmm… bacon

    AND it’s centered around Canadian beer!
    http://img193.yfrog....

  • James P. | November 13, 2009 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment="360231"][quote comment="360226"]Fellow Uni Watch readers, I am in need of your assistance!

    My father-in-law grew up in the Narrows area of Brooklyn in the 50s and played in the Narrows Civic Association Youth Baseball League. I am unable to find anything on the league, much less any images. Is there anyone here that can hlep me out? I am looking to recreate his baseball uniform jesery for a Christmas present since he was medically unable to attend his oldest daughter’s and my wedding recently.[/quote]

    According to my research, the Narrows Civic Association, a non-profit corporation, was officially dissolved in 1993. Their last known address, 7907 New Utrecht Ave., is a community center now run by Catholic Charities. It’s possible that Catholic Charities might have held onto the records, photos, etc., of the old organization. Here’s their contact info:

    Catholic Charities
    Narrows Civic Center
    7907 New Utrecht Ave
    Brooklyn, NY 11214-1611
    (718) 256-1166

    … Also, you might want to check with the local library:

    Brooklyn Public Library
    New Utrecht Branch
    1743 86th St.
    Brooklyn, NY 11214
    (718) 236-4086 tel.
    Website: (http://bit.ly/3c5fwk)

    Good luck![/quote]

    Thanks for that info. Living in St Louis, MO will make getting out to that library a little difficult, but it is a starting point for my quest.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 13, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment="360189"]Re: The Marty Turco mask video

    The camera was about 6 feet away from the mask and the paintjob was so overdesigned that i couldn’t make out ANY of the detail.

    This trend has annoyed me to no end during the last 15 years. If you can’t make out what’s on a mask from the crowd. A lot of goalies look like they just plop as much crap as they can, and it ends up looking like one of those airbrushed shirts you can get in shop at a coastal tourist town. Then it is too busy. The simpler to the point designs will always go down as the classics.[/quote]
    Would have been nice if they had zommed in on Turco and the mask… I REALLY need to see the dude in the red sweater vest. Jeez… was he an intern or what with all the goofiness?

  • EddieAtari | November 13, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment="360234"][quote comment="360231"][quote comment="360226"]Fellow Uni Watch readers, I am in need of your assistance!

    My father-in-law grew up in the Narrows area of Brooklyn in the 50s and played in the Narrows Civic Association Youth Baseball League. I am unable to find anything on the league, much less any images. Is there anyone here that can hlep me out? I am looking to recreate his baseball uniform jesery for a Christmas present since he was medically unable to attend his oldest daughter’s and my wedding recently.[/quote]

    According to my research, the Narrows Civic Association, a non-profit corporation, was officially dissolved in 1993. Their last known address, 7907 New Utrecht Ave., is a community center now run by Catholic Charities. It’s possible that Catholic Charities might have held onto the records, photos, etc., of the old organization. Here’s their contact info:

    Catholic Charities
    Narrows Civic Center
    7907 New Utrecht Ave
    Brooklyn, NY 11214-1611
    (718) 256-1166

    … Also, you might want to check with the local library:

    Brooklyn Public Library
    New Utrecht Branch
    1743 86th St.
    Brooklyn, NY 11214
    (718) 236-4086 tel.
    Website: (http://bit.ly/3c5fwk)

    Good luck![/quote]

    Thanks for that info. Living in St Louis, MO will make getting out to that library a little difficult, but it is a starting point for my quest.[/quote]

    No problem. Also FYI, The Brooklyn Public Library’s main branch runs the Brooklyn Collection. They might have better research capabilities than the neighborhood branch…

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment="360224"][quote comment="360154"]I,ve been into curling for about 12 years, since I first saw it on the Olympics. I’ve been curling at the Potomac Curling Club (http://www.curldc.or...) for 4 years. I was really excited to see a house on the main page this morning.

    I’m glad that Robert & James had a good time. It really is a fantastic sport, played by a lot of great people.

    If anyone else is looking to try it, I’m sure there is a club near you. (http://www.kccurling...) Go, curl, drink, enjoy.[/quote]

    ah-ha! see man, it’s a cult!!

    a few things…
    really? hard to read? that’s as straight forward as i can write. and capital letters are elitist ricko, or at the very least, like cookbooks 15 feet away, the shift key is just to far off. no no, i just don’t like capital letters, they don’t look right, make my skin crawl, i won’t use ‘em, and you can’t make me. what looks better M or m? I or i? no contest, the itty-bitty letters are soft, comforting, the big ones scream. ask james, i don’t like confrontation:)

    i was being sarcastic when i was ribbing james for bringing an irish hat to a scottish party. he could not have been dressed better, he is class all the way, while i was dressed like a total jack ass. was the sarcasm not as obvious as stink lines on a cartoon? i would say 40% of the cult loved it, and thought it was a funny kit, and 60% thought i was a freak. so roughly 1/2 the club was right.

    actually i did wear the mask sweeping on at least 9 of 12 stones, but i would rip it off out of fear that i was having a heart attack immediately after i got the stone to the house.[/quote]

    Ah, surely you know of all people I am among those who most appreciate your resolutely anti-aristocratic lower case leftward leanings and ee cummings-like free flow of function-forward expression. Unlike the post-modern designs of Nike and others for whom there is no reason required for design, you lead with reason.

    And for that reason I have reasoned you are a reasonable man of reason, reasonably irreverant, reasonably sarcastic, reasonably restrained and a reasonably accomplished shortstop. I do hope, however, that you are hardly reasonably chaste. What fun would that be.

    And I do like the mask. Will come in handy for your secret career as Nacho Libre. Or as the goalie for Spuzzum (a small town in British Columbia; you could look it up).

    —Ricko

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment="360233"][quote comment="360224"][quote comment="360154"]I,ve been into curling for about 12 years, since I first saw it on the Olympics. I’ve been curling at the Potomac Curling Club (http://www.curldc.or...) for 4 years. I was really excited to see a house on the main page this morning.

    I’m glad that Robert & James had a good time. It really is a fantastic sport, played by a lot of great people.

    If anyone else is looking to try it, I’m sure there is a club near you. (http://www.kccurling...) Go, curl, drink, enjoy.[/quote]

    ah-ha! see man, it’s a cult!!

    [/quote]

    Yup, it sure is. It is the only reason I get up early on Saturdays: Breakfast curling.
    mmmmmm… bacon

    AND it’s centered around Canadian beer!
    http://img193.yfrog....

    i do love me some molson, we had labatt. i am not trying to imply that your cult is a cult, but you’re a cult. like any sort of fringe game, the people that play it really play it, once your in, you are in for life. which i think is great, i had a blast. it totally reminded me of the guys i played table hockey with, or that excellent electric football video yesterday, it’s hard core or not at all. if i lived closer to the curling centre, i would join in a new york minute. my brother lives 10 minutes away, the next time i see him i am going to kick his ass for not being in the cult.

  • Terence M. K. | November 13, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    “But it doesn’t guarantee victories on the field.”

    —Ricko

    Amen Brother!!

    Terence

  • Jeff P | November 13, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.

  • Terence M. K. | November 13, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    This is hysterical! France and Ireland are playing a WC Qualifying Playoff Match tomorrow, and the rep for the french president requested a VIP “box”. Read the irish diplomat’s response and ensuing hilarity as two diplomats go at it, via “official” correspondence:

    http://irishsoccerin...

    Real or fake? Gut busting!

    Terence

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment="360216"]“James was essentially his team’s captain (”lead” or “skip”)”

    Lead and Skip are NOT interchangeable.

    The Lead throws the first two stones. The “Skip” is the team captain and usually throws 7 and 8.

    Freakin’ Americans.[/quote]
    I had both roles. For the first end, I was the lead and for the second, I was the skip.

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.

  • Will | November 13, 2009 at 3:46 pm |

    For all the soccer fans out there… Russia got new kits for 2009-10 which will be their primary kits for the 2010 World Cup (assuming they make it).

    http://spotkicks.wor...

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment="360242"][quote comment="360216"]“James was essentially his team’s captain (”lead” or “skip”)”

    Lead and Skip are NOT interchangeable.

    The Lead throws the first two stones. The “Skip” is the team captain and usually throws 7 and 8.

    Freakin’ Americans.[/quote]
    I had both roles. For the first end, I was the lead and for the second, I was the skip.[/quote]

    zing zam pow, take that cult member, where are your flying saucers now? no, i’m kidding, thanks jayteeaych for clarifying, i should have made that clearer, but you know, i’m not the sharpest pencil in the box.

  • Terence M. K. | November 13, 2009 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment="360243"][quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.[/quote]

    Teebz,

    Great post on HockeyBlog about the Avs “Turd” Sweater! Totally agree!

    Terence

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 3:50 pm |

    maybe “not the dickiest dunn” would be more appropriate.

  • EddieAtari | November 13, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment="360241"]This is hysterical! France and Ireland are playing a WC Qualifying Playoff Match tomorrow, and the rep for the french president requested a VIP “box”. Read the irish diplomat’s response and ensuing hilarity as two diplomats go at it, via “official” correspondence:

    http://irishsoccerin...

    Real or fake? Gut busting!

    Terence[/quote]

    http://news.bbc.co.u...

    Fake, but still funny as hell… And I say this as a proud citizen of the Republic of Ireland…

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment="360224"]actually i did wear the mask sweeping on at least 9 of 12 stones, but i would rip it off out of fear that i was having a heart attack immediately after i got the stone to the house.[/quote]
    I guess I didn’t notice that. I was probably sweeping and/or doing my skiply duties at the time. The only times I saw you sweeping, you were sans headgear.

  • Geenf | November 13, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    JTH:

    To start the “International ‘Worst. Uniform. Ever.’ poll”

    http://www.thisisfoo...

  • Bernard | November 13, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Terence M. K. | November 13, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment="360248"][quote comment="360241"]This is hysterical! France and Ireland are playing a WC Qualifying Playoff Match tomorrow, and the rep for the french president requested a VIP “box”. Read the irish diplomat’s response and ensuing hilarity as two diplomats go at it, via “official” correspondence:

    http://irishsoccerin...

    Real or fake? Gut busting!

    Terence[/quote]

    http://news.bbc.co.u...

    Fake, but still funny as hell… And I say this as a proud citizen of the Republic of Ireland…[/quote]

    I knew when I saw the street name of the “French Consulate”. LOL.

    Up the boys in green!!

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment="360249"][quote comment="360224"]actually i did wear the mask sweeping on at least 9 of 12 stones, but i would rip it off out of fear that i was having a heart attack immediately after i got the stone to the house.[/quote]
    I guess I didn’t notice that. I was probably sweeping and/or doing my skiply duties at the time. The only times I saw you sweeping, you were sans headgear.[/quote]

    i think i was without on my 1st 3rd and 9thish stone swept, and you were shooting the pixtures early. we should get a team called duck duck goose together. everybody has ducks on their sweater, ‘cept you, the cap’n which gets a goose. green wresting masks for the ducks, black for the goose. i think it will go over well at the country club. we will make up what we temporarily lack in skill with pure intimidation

  • -Vince | November 13, 2009 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Pittsburgh has a great club, despite playing on arena/hockey ice. They put on one of the best bonspiels (tournament) of the year. TROPICURL! http://www.tropicurl...

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment="360224"]what looks better M or m?[/quote]
    Good point. You can’t do the metal salute with a capital M.

    \m/

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    pittsburgh, pffffft. you mo fo’s don’t know curling from hurling, the chicago duck duck goosers would mop the floor with you. we will put up grubs at the weinner’s circle and olde styles against the o, and icb for a match any freakin’ day. what’s with all the abbreviations pittsburgh? you spell out like you curl, light.

  • Bernard | November 13, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment="360256"][quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    pittsburgh, pffffft. you mo fo’s don’t know curling from hurling, the chicago duck duck goosers would mop the floor with you. we will put up grubs at the weinner’s circle and olde styles against the o, and icb for a match any freakin’ day. what’s with all the abbreviations pittsburgh? you spell out like you curl, light.[/quote]

    You’re on. Though, it will be tough to schedule around all the parades for the Stlrs and Pngns…

    Truth be told, however, I’m really only in it for the sweaters.

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    No. Under no circumstances should you bid on that.

    Umm… It’s totally moth-eaten.

    And it smells of spoiled cabbage.

  • Jeff P | November 13, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment="360243"][quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.[/quote]

    I was referring to Cam Ward’s 06-07 mask.

    If the words “Dear God” come to mind, you would agree with every Hurricanes fan who ever saw it.

  • Bernard | November 13, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment="360258"][quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    No. Under no circumstances should you bid on that.

    Umm… It’s totally moth-eaten.

    And it smells of spoiled cabbage.[/quote]

    Haha, yeah, it looks like it. ;)

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment="360258"][quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    No. Under no circumstances should you bid on that.

    Umm… It’s totally moth-eaten.

    And it smells of spoiled cabbage.[/quote]

    But the photos have other redeeming qualities…

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment="360259"][quote comment="360243"][quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.[/quote]

    I was referring to Cam Ward’s 06-07 mask.

    If the words “Dear God” come to mind, you would agree with every Hurricanes fan who ever saw it.[/quote]

    Damned copycats. LOL

    And that is fairly horrid. I don’t recall his wearing it in a game, however. That might save me from nightmares. ;o)

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment="360257"][quote comment="360256"][quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    pittsburgh, pffffft. you mo fo’s don’t know curling from hurling, the chicago duck duck goosers would mop the floor with you. we will put up grubs at the weinner’s circle and olde styles against the o, and icb for a match any freakin’ day. what’s with all the abbreviations pittsburgh? you spell out like you curl, light.[/quote]

    You’re on. Though, it will be tough to schedule around all the parades for the Stlrs and Pngns…

    Truth be told, however, I’m really only in it for the sweaters.[/quote]

    der, what else is there? clearly that’s why i was in it. and if it is sweaters we will be comparing, i will start stitching today. now where did i put that goose.

    let me speak “pttsbrgh” right back at cha, so you are clear…
    nt s fst n th pngns, th blkhwks mght hv smthng t sy bfor ths ssn s thrgh.

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment="360260"][quote comment="360258"][quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    No. Under no circumstances should you bid on that.

    Umm… It’s totally moth-eaten.

    And it smells of spoiled cabbage.[/quote]

    Haha, yeah, it looks like it. ;)[/quote]

    don’t fall for his mind tricks, he wants it for himself. this is going to be an easy win cap’n, clearly their minds are weak in steel town.

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment="360253"][quote comment="360249"][quote comment="360224"]actually i did wear the mask sweeping on at least 9 of 12 stones, but i would rip it off out of fear that i was having a heart attack immediately after i got the stone to the house.[/quote]
    I guess I didn’t notice that. I was probably sweeping and/or doing my skiply duties at the time. The only times I saw you sweeping, you were sans headgear.[/quote]

    i think i was without on my 1st 3rd and 9thish stone swept, and you were shooting the pixtures early. we should get a team called duck duck goose together. everybody has ducks on their sweater, ‘cept you, the cap’n which gets a goose. green wresting masks for the ducks, black for the goose. i think it will go over well at the country club. we will make up what we temporarily lack in skill with pure intimidation[/quote]
    Done and done, sir.

  • Bernard | November 13, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment="360263"][quote comment="360257"][quote comment="360256"][quote comment="360251"]Any Pittsburgh-area UWers interested in giving curling a shot should look here:

    http://www.pittsburg...

    I think I may have to pick this up for my lesson…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    pittsburgh, pffffft. you mo fo’s don’t know curling from hurling, the chicago duck duck goosers would mop the floor with you. we will put up grubs at the weinner’s circle and olde styles against the o, and icb for a match any freakin’ day. what’s with all the abbreviations pittsburgh? you spell out like you curl, light.[/quote]

    You’re on. Though, it will be tough to schedule around all the parades for the Stlrs and Pngns…

    Truth be told, however, I’m really only in it for the sweaters.[/quote]

    der, what else is there? clearly that’s why i was in it. and if it is sweaters we will be comparing, i will start stitching today. now where did i put that goose.

    let me speak “pttsbrgh” right back at cha, so you are clear…
    nt s fst n th pngns, th blkhwks mght hv smthng t sy bfor ths ssn s thrgh.[/quote]

    Brllnt!

    W wld lv th opprtnty t fg p Mrn Hss’s vsr agn! :)

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment="360250"]JTH:

    To start the “International ‘Worst. Uniform. Ever.’ poll”

    http://www.thisisfoo...
    If we go ahead with that, we may need some international correspondents to properly pull it off.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment="360250"]JTH:

    To start the “International ‘Worst. Uniform. Ever.’ poll”

    http://www.thisisfoo...

    I liked the brown Coventry kit: http://www.thisisfoo...
    The rest just plain sucked. And almost all of them were from the 90s, I believe.

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 5:12 pm |

    Meanwhile, the legendary Navy Blue Hole, the one that swallows quarterbacks should they have the misfortune to assume that position for the Bears, seems to have sucked Jay Cutler securely into its vortex.

    So you see, it isn’t Cutler who sucks.
    It’s the Navy Blue Hole.
    Now and forever.
    Or at least Sid Luckman was there.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment="360269"]Meanwhile, the legendary Navy Blue Hole, the one that swallows quarterbacks should they have the misfortune to assume that position for the Bears, seems to have sucked Jay Cutler securely into its vortex.

    So you see, it isn’t Cutler who sucks.
    It’s the Navy Blue Hole.
    Now and forever.
    Or at least Sid Luckman was there.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Jim McMahon gets no respect.

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment="360270"]
    Jim McMahon gets no respect.[/quote]

    shocking

  • chance michaels | November 13, 2009 at 5:23 pm |

    Forgive if this has been discussed before – nothing came up on the search.

    On eBay right now, there’s a custom Dolphin helmet designed and painted by a local artist in the 1970s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...?

    Could be legit – there’s a reference to Seiler in this 1968 Sports Illustrated.

    If I was a Dolphin fan, I’d be all over that.

  • soli deo gloria | November 13, 2009 at 5:26 pm |

    Are their any other teams (College or Pro) that do equipment webisodes like joe skiba does with the giants?

  • EddieAtari | November 13, 2009 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment="360272"]Forgive if this has been discussed before – nothing came up on the search.

    On eBay right now, there’s a custom Dolphin helmet designed and painted by a local artist in the 1970s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...?

    Could be legit – there’s a reference to Seiler in this 1968 Sports Illustrated.

    If I was a Dolphin fan, I’d be all over that.[/quote]

    The Miami Shamus?

  • Jeff P | November 13, 2009 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment="360262"][quote comment="360259"][quote comment="360243"][quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.[/quote]

    I was referring to Cam Ward’s 06-07 mask.

    If the words “Dear God” come to mind, you would agree with every Hurricanes fan who ever saw it.[/quote]

    Damned copycats. LOL

    And that is fairly horrid. I don’t recall his wearing it in a game, however. That might save me from nightmares. ;o)[/quote]

    Try almost the entire 06-07 season. It was replaced by one of the best modern masks I’ve seen, but that one broke after about a half season of use, big crack in the chin. Got auctioned off for charity.

    Here’s the nickleback in action,

    Here’s the one he replaced it with and is now in the hands of some collector.

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment="360274"][quote comment="360272"]Forgive if this has been discussed before – nothing came up on the search.

    On eBay right now, there’s a custom Dolphin helmet designed and painted by a local artist in the 1970s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...?

    Could be legit – there’s a reference to Seiler in this 1968 Sports Illustrated.

    If I was a Dolphin fan, I’d be all over that.[/quote]

    The Miami Shamus?[/quote]

    looks like a dolphin to me. real or not, that thing kicks ass.

    dark football pants.

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 6:32 pm |

    [quote comment="360274"][quote comment="360272"]Forgive if this has been discussed before – nothing came up on the search.

    On eBay right now, there’s a custom Dolphin helmet designed and painted by a local artist in the 1970s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...?

    Could be legit – there’s a reference to Seiler in this 1968 Sports Illustrated.

    If I was a Dolphin fan, I’d be all over that.[/quote]

    The Miami Shamus?[/quote]

    Why does running down protype helmets (or prototype unis in general) seem a little like building a list of all the women who almost said “yes” when we asked them out but changed their minds?

    Technically, if it never got on the field, it’s just so much air, isn’t it?

    I mean, if the team never went from existing on paper to actually playing, that’s sorta one thing (Miami Screaming Eagles jersey for the Bernie Parent press conference, for example). At least that’s what a team that almost existed might have looked like. But otherwise it’s just working material, isn’t it. One step above sketches.

    There’s so much real info missing as it is. LOL

    –Ricko

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment="360277"]Why does running down protype helmets (or prototype unis in general) seem a little like building a list of all the women who almost said “yes” when we asked them out but changed their minds?
    [/quote]

    nothing ventured, nothing lost

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment="360278"][quote comment="360277"]Why does running down protype helmets (or prototype unis in general) seem a little like building a list of all the women who almost said “yes” when we asked them out but changed their minds?
    [/quote]

    nothing ventured, nothing lost[/quote]

    Yeah, but who bothers with a list of them? Or making an album of their photos? LOL

    Maybe a better analogy is a list of all the women we THOUGHT ABOUT asking out. And making sketches of what our kids would have looked like.

    (Wow, considering how some of those women in my life aged, we’d have had some FAT kids. LOL)

    –Ricko

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 6:44 pm |

    [quote comment="360278"][quote comment="360277"]Why does running down protype helmets (or prototype unis in general) seem a little like building a list of all the women who almost said “yes” when we asked them out but changed their minds?
    [/quote]

    nothing ventured, nothing lost[/quote]

    i agree with ricko, but at the same time it is kind of cool to see what might have been, if you come across it.

    open studio 6 to 10 tonight in pilsen.
    bird ate my dougnout show 11pm @ ronny’s

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment="360280"][quote comment="360278"][quote comment="360277"]Why does running down protype helmets (or prototype unis in general) seem a little like building a list of all the women who almost said “yes” when we asked them out but changed their minds?
    [/quote]

    nothing ventured, nothing lost[/quote]

    i agree with ricko, but at the same time it is kind of cool to see what might have been, if you come across it.

    open studio 6 to 10 tonight in pilsen.
    bird ate my dougnout show 11pm @ ronny’s[/quote]

    With a couple weeks notice a guy could find a cheap flight. LOL

    Cuz, y’know, 15 hours both ways in the car is a bit much. Unless, y’know, there’s a woman involved (and she isn’t someone I thought about asking out in 1967, and now looks The Skipper…on Gilligan’s Island, not the “skip” in curling).

    —Ricko

    —Ricko

  • Hibbsy | November 13, 2009 at 6:52 pm |

    No Mas.
    Is there anything they can’t do?
    My friend has a country band called “The Doc Ellis Band”. I don’t think many (if any) of the people in the crowd ever get the reference. I think most of them just wonder which one of the band members is named Doc.
    P.S.Robertmarshall. That mask would definitely go well with “The Cobra”. “Sssssssssss.”

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment="360276"]dark football pants.[/quote]
    Amen. Blue for the Giants. Purple for the Vikings.

  • M.Princip | November 13, 2009 at 7:00 pm |

    [quote comment="360243"][quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.[/quote]

    It’s instances like that mask that make me very thankful for the NFL’s stringent uniform rules. I know that there are quite a lot of pro athletes that are fans of Nickelback, I just don’t need to know about it. However, it does make it easier for me to boo them when they’re playing like shit.

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment="360280"]open studio 6 to 10 tonight in pilsen.
    [/quote]

    hide the felines

    [quote comment="360283"][quote comment="360276"]dark football pants.[/quote]
    Amen. Blue for the Giants. Purple for the Vikings.[/quote]

    thought you liked these…and these

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 7:04 pm |

    [quote comment="360284"][quote comment="360243"][quote comment="360240"]To all those complaining about Turco’s mask:

    At least it’s not dedicated to Nickelback.[/quote]

    That was already done in 2003. Jamie McLennan threw the “Nickelback” name on his mask when he played for the Calgary Flames. Of course, KISS is more prominently featured.[/quote]

    It’s instances like that mask that make me very thankful for the NFL’s stringent uniform rules. I know that there are quite a lot of pro athletes that are fans of Nickelback, I just don’t need to know about it. However, it does make it easier for me to boo them when they’re playing like shit.[/quote]
    What is it about that band that makes them universally reviled? Would people like them better if they named themselves after a real football position? Maybe Free Safety? Nose Tackle? Three Technique?

    I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anything by them, but now I kind of want to just so I can play along.

  • M.Princip | November 13, 2009 at 7:14 pm |

    [quote comment="360276"][quote comment="360274"][quote comment="360272"]Forgive if this has been discussed before – nothing came up on the search.

    On eBay right now, there’s a custom Dolphin helmet designed and painted by a local artist in the 1970s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...?

    Could be legit – there’s a reference to Seiler in this 1968 Sports Illustrated.

    If I was a Dolphin fan, I’d be all over that.[/quote]

    The Miami Shamus?[/quote]

    looks like a dolphin to me. real or not, that thing kicks ass.

    dark football pants.[/quote]

    A white one sold back in Sept.:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 7:17 pm |

    [quote comment="360286"]I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anything by them, but now I kind of want to just so I can play along.[/quote]

    mike…they suck

    you’ve prolly heard this tripe…i dated a canuck for a while, and even canadians without much taste HATE them

    but then again…taste in music, much like unis…is all subjective, innit?

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 7:18 pm |

    fuck…james said that

    /point still stands

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment="360283"][quote comment="360276"]dark football pants.[/quote]
    Amen. Blue for the Giants. Purple for the Vikings.[/quote]

    Every team should wear, with their white jerseys, dark colored pants. Then everyone won’t have the same general scheme for their unis and there’ll be lots of variety.

    How can something be unique if everyone does it?

    Alabama? Penn State? Get them some crimson and navy road pants, respectively.

    See, I figure a team gets to design its home (generally dark) uni. The rules make ‘em have a white jersey vesion of it. What pants they wear with the white jerseys is their option. One they should retain as a preference.

    I love that some teams (Chiefs, Eagles sometimes, for example) opt for white over dark. Even like the Dolphins in aqua britches with white once in a while. But if others (say, Alabama, Auburn, Vikings, 49ers, Giants) say they want to wear the same colors pants both home and road…well, good for them. It’s their uni, after all.

    Just another vote against some kind of extraneous rule, official or otherwise.

    So let’s talk about, esthetically, how 49ers really could use three white stripes on their socks. Percentage-wise, they’re way too much red without some white (as sorta defined by the home jersey).

    Maybe the Colts, Jets and Cowboys, too. For same reason.

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 7:48 pm |

    [quote comment="360288"][quote comment="360286"]I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anything by them, but now I kind of want to just so I can play along.[/quote]

    mike…they suck

    you’ve prolly heard this tripe…i dated a canuck for a while, and even canadians without much taste HATE them

    but then again…taste in music, much like unis…is all subjective, innit?[/quote]

    I must interject with this song because it rules. Why does it rule? Because they mock themselves and their extended 15 minutes of fame so well.

    According to lead singer Chad Kroeger, he wrote the song because it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, everyone wants to be a rockstar.

    Check the notable names that appear in that video as well!

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 7:54 pm |

    [quote comment="360290"]
    So let’s talk about, esthetically, how 49ers really could use three white stripes on their socks. Percentage-wise, they’re way too much red without some white (as sorta defined by the home jersey).
    [/quote]

    so you’re advocating for something like this?

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 8:00 pm |

    [quote comment="360292"][quote comment="360290"]
    So let’s talk about, esthetically, how 49ers really could use three white stripes on their socks. Percentage-wise, they’re way too much red without some white (as sorta defined by the home jersey).
    [/quote]

    so you’re advocating for something like this?[/quote]

    Yeah. Could keep the red socks with white jerseys, though. 49ers haven’t wore white socks since about 1957, I think.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment="360291"]I must interject with this song because it rules. Why does it rule? Because they mock themselves and their extended 15 minutes of fame so well.

    According to lead singer Chad Kroeger, he wrote the song because it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, everyone wants to be a rockstar.

    Check the notable names that appear in that video as well![/quote]

    ROFL

    should say “not available due to taste restrictions”

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 8:04 pm |

    I’m with Ricko in this case – the less “rules” we have for unis the better.

    Now, if we’re talking preferences, then I think white pants go with a light helmet (white, silver, gold, yellow, powder blue). Dark (or non-white) pants go with a dark helmet.

    Although, I like white pants with purple helmets, so even my preferences aren’t set in stone. In fact, I don’t think I’d advocate Alabama going with red pants, even though I really like the Chiefs in red pants. And let’s not forget how cool the Oilers looked in blue pants even after they switched from blue helmets to white.

    Viva variety.

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 8:05 pm |

    [quote comment="360294"][quote comment="360291"]I must interject with this song because it rules. Why does it rule? Because they mock themselves and their extended 15 minutes of fame so well.

    According to lead singer Chad Kroeger, he wrote the song because it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, everyone wants to be a rockstar.

    Check the notable names that appear in that video as well![/quote]

    ROFL

    should say “not available due to taste restrictions”[/quote]
    Perhaps it’s a tripe embargo? I guess NAFTA doesn’t cover that.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    Also, the Dolphins prototype helmet is cool, and Nickelback has a couple of decent songs.

    Commence firing, my friends…

  • Teebz | November 13, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    [quote comment="360294"][quote comment="360291"]I must interject with this song because it rules. Why does it rule? Because they mock themselves and their extended 15 minutes of fame so well.

    According to lead singer Chad Kroeger, he wrote the song because it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, everyone wants to be a rockstar.

    Check the notable names that appear in that video as well![/quote]

    ROFL

    should say “not available due to taste restrictions”[/quote]

    You damned Americans! LOL

    Search “Rockstar” and “Nickelback”. ;o)

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    on the deuce is WVA vs cincy…

    a very good candidate for worst uni matchup

    cincy in battle red jerseys (black helmets) and white bearclaw pants…vs. wvu in white jerseys (blue lids) and blue pants…lots of bumperstickers

  • JTH | November 13, 2009 at 8:12 pm |

    [quote comment="360299"]on the deuce is WVA vs cincy…

    a very good candidate for worst uni matchup

    cincy in battle red jerseys (black helmets) and white bearclaw pants…vs. wvu in white jerseys (blue lids) and blue pants…lots of bumperstickers[/quote]
    They don’t call it “the deuce” for nothin’.

  • leon | November 13, 2009 at 8:16 pm |

    [quote comment="360299"]on the deuce is WVA vs cincy…

    a very good candidate for worst uni matchup

    cincy in battle red jerseys (black helmets) and white bearclaw pants…vs. wvu in white jerseys (blue lids) and blue pants…lots of bumperstickers[/quote]

    Agree
    Goofy number fonts on both
    Why is there a red line under the “C” on Cincinnnati helmets?
    This could be such a great matchup with the colors of these schools.

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 8:42 pm |

    i need a seperate one for croquet, that’s my curling mask.

    wtf!!!! my heat has not been on in 2 weeks, but because they want to rent places it is on tonight, are you kidding me?! back to the peeps.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment="360301"][quote comment="360299"]on the deuce is WVA vs cincy…

    a very good candidate for worst uni matchup

    cincy in battle red jerseys (black helmets) and white bearclaw pants…vs. wvu in white jerseys (blue lids) and blue pants…lots of bumperstickers[/quote]

    Agree
    Goofy number fonts on both
    Why is there a red line under the “C” on Cincinnnati helmets?
    This could be such a great matchup with the colors of these schools.[/quote]

    Most numbers that aren’t block look goofy to me, but WVU’s work for some reason.

    I dont’ know, but until I see more photos, I kinda like this: http://a.espncdn.com... Who’s announcing the game on the deuce, anyway?

  • Ricko | November 13, 2009 at 8:58 pm |

    “Why is there a red line under the “C” on Cincinnnati helmets?”

    Cuz it’s the logo. Has been for long, long time. Claws above “C”, red line beneath it.

    Was just thinking last night (or this a.m.) when ESPN was talking about the QB situation and popped up the logo that, all things considered, is kinda old school and nice.

    In that sense a little contrdictory to the “cat scratch” pants they wear now, though, isn’t it.

    —Ricko

    –Ricko

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    [quote comment="360301"]
    Why is there a red line under the “C” on Cincinnnati helmets?[/quote]

    in order to facilitate them putting it on “right side up”

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    Meanwhile, apparently on ESPNU Akron is hosting Temple. Hopefully the Zips aren’t going monochrome blue as they did last week against Kent State: http://www.gozips.co...

    Wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the white going down the sides. The colors are blue and gold…why so much white? The number font’s a little goofy too.

  • BuckeyeChief | November 13, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    A $15 lettering kit, for DIY projects, where can I find one???

  • leon | November 13, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment="360305"][quote comment="360301"]
    Why is there a red line under the “C” on Cincinnnati helmets?[/quote]

    in order to facilitate them putting it on “right side up”[/quote]

    Glad to hear it’s not supposed to be reminiscent of a crown:queen city, right?
    Or a Proctor and Gamble product.
    Just seems like a red line for red line’s sake (RLFRLS).
    btw, I did think of the 6 or 9 underline thing and am refraining from any Mark Sanchez references.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment="360307"]A $15 lettering kit, for DIY projects, where can I find one???[/quote]

    I keep telling my wife, who works in the Jo-Ann Fabrics corporate office, that they’re missing out on a big market by not catering to male DIY sports enthusiasts. This is the best thing they have: http://www.joann.com...

    Wish they had more stuff…I don’t get to use her 50% discount very often.

  • LI Phil | November 13, 2009 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment="360309"]I don’t get to use her 50% discount very often.[/quote]

    that’s funny…i do

    /thanks…i’ll be here all weekend…try the veal

  • Kenny Jacobson | November 13, 2009 at 10:07 pm |

    I don’t feel like the Colorado Avalanche are getting nearly enough grief for that horrible alternate jersey. Just wanted to say that. Now I feel better.

  • JimV19 | November 13, 2009 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment="360310"][quote comment="360309"]I don’t get to use her 50% discount very often.[/quote]

    that’s funny…i do

    /thanks…i’ll be here all weekend…try the veal[/quote]

    Snappy comeback on the way…eventually.

    Ah, it’s too late…

  • Bob Loblaw | November 13, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment="360283"][quote comment="360276"]dark football pants.[/quote]
    Amen. Blue for the Giants. Purple for the Vikings.[/quote]

    No thanks.. saw the Jints in blue pants back in ’75—sucked then, surely to suck now.

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 10:43 pm |

    dark football pants suck, i was just trying to get under ricko’s skin.

  • Parrish | November 13, 2009 at 11:22 pm |

    Is it possible to request/commission a Rob Ullman illo? I’d love to see one for an MLS team (and can think of some friends who are highly qualified to serve as the subject).

  • rpm | November 13, 2009 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment="360316"]Is it possible to request/commission a Rob Ullman illo? I’d love to see one for an MLS team (and can think of some friends who are highly qualified to serve as the subject).[/quote]

    that’s how artists make their money, so of course you can.

  • Jeff P | November 13, 2009 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment="360316"]Is it possible to request/commission a Rob Ullman illo? I’d love to see one for an MLS team (and can think of some friends who are highly qualified to serve as the subject).[/quote]
    Many of his works are indeed done by commission. I do not know the process though. Probably just need to contact him, his e-mail is probably on his site.

  • Shaggy | November 14, 2009 at 1:34 am |

    Colorado Buffaloes Basketball, at home in Silver!

    http://image.cdnl3.x...

  • Nick | November 14, 2009 at 1:45 am |

    [quote comment="360287"][quote comment="360276"][quote comment="360274"][quote comment="360272"]Forgive if this has been discussed before – nothing came up on the search.

    On eBay right now, there’s a custom Dolphin helmet designed and painted by a local artist in the 1970s.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...?

    Could be legit – there’s a reference to Seiler in this 1968 Sports Illustrated.

    If I was a Dolphin fan, I’d be all over that.[/quote]

    The Miami Shamus?[/quote]

    looks like a dolphin to me. real or not, that thing kicks ass.

    dark football pants.[/quote]

    A white one sold back in Sept.:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Both versions – White and Orange – look a bit too dull and hard to discern from a distance to be useful for the Dolphins. They did right by leaving their original design alone (for the most part).

    That said, two weeks ago on EBAY I saw a dark Silver Eagles helmet with Dark Green Wings in the 19060s-1980s style. It was some old High School helmet or something – it really looked sharp.

  • Nick | November 14, 2009 at 1:55 am |

    [quote comment="360319"]Colorado Buffaloes Basketball, at home in Silver!

    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Not too bad. A little Gold trim on the numerals might just improve it a bit, but all-in-all a good look.

  • Nick | November 14, 2009 at 1:56 am |

    [quote comment="360315"]dark football pants suck, i was just trying to get under ricko’s skin.[/quote]

    AMEN !!!! Love my Saints, hate the Black leotard pants.

  • JTH | November 14, 2009 at 2:24 am |

    [quote comment="360322"][quote comment="360315"]dark football pants suck, i was just trying to get under ricko’s skin.[/quote]

    AMEN !!!! Love my Saints, hate the Black leotard pants.[/quote]
    Bah! My two favorite teams wear the dark britches and they wear them quite well.

    Unfortunately, that’s about the only thing they do well.

    But you’ve gotta take it on a case-by-case basis.

    Saints black trousers = teh suck.

  • rpm | November 14, 2009 at 3:32 am |

    [quote comment="360323"][quote comment="360322"][quote comment="360315"]dark football pants suck, i was just trying to get under ricko’s skin.[/quote]

    AMEN !!!! Love my Saints, hate the Black leotard pants.[/quote]
    Bah! My two favorite teams wear the dark britches and they wear them quite well.

    Unfortunately, that’s about the only thing they do well.

    But you’ve gotta take it on a case-by-case basis.

    Saints black trousers = teh suck.[/quote]

    yes, case by case in the pros, but in general the darker the pant the worse the look. but as far as indiana, do they play football in that state? and if that is a football team, i don’t hate it.

    if i can get all scandanavian, yord or nord on darks, the rules do not apply to the ncaa. best ever

  • Hibbsy | November 14, 2009 at 4:02 am |

    The dark pants rule died in 1990 for me.

  • JTH | November 14, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment="360324"]as far as indiana, do they play football in that state? and if that is a football team, i don’t hate it.[/quote]
    I dunno. You tell me. Flag football, maybe?

    Oh, I think there may have been a decent program once upon a time at a school just outside of South Bend.