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Homemade Earflaps Revisited

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I’ve written several times about Earl Battey of the Twins, who in 1963 attached a metal plate to the side of his batting helmet, thereby becoming the first MLB player to wear an earflap.

I’d never seen another player wearing an improvised flap until scrolling through yesterday’s comments, where Larry Wiederecht posted a link to an eBay auction for this 1964 wire service photo.

Wow! Never seen that before, so I immediately e-mailed the photo to uni designer Todd Radom and Hall of Fame curator Tom Shieber, who’d never seen it either. Lots of info to process here — one thing at a time:

• Oliva played on the Twins, same as Battey, so the Minnesota equipment staff had some experience in making this type of helmet attachment. Which begs the question: Did any other Twins wear the improvised flap?

• Hard to be sure what the flap is made of. Metal? Plastic?

• Fascinating to see that Oliva resisted wearing the attachment because he thought it looked goofy. Forty-five years later, we’re going through the same safety-vs.-aesthetics issue with the S100 helmet. Some things never change.

• The caption mentions that Oliva grudgingly wore the flap in batting practice, but it’s not clear whether he ever wore it in a game. Ricko, can you shed any light on this?

• I have never been able to determine exactly when ABC Helmet began making helmets with real earflaps. I had always wondered whether Battey’s improvised flap in 1963 had led ABC to start making flapped helmets in ’64. But judging by the Oliva photo, that’s not what happened. Hmmmmm…

Big thanks to Larry for finding this photo — a major piece of the helmet history puzzle.

And now we have a truly ridiculous number of extra-curricular announcements (anything to take my mind off of last night’s ballgame)…

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Raffle Reminder: I’m currently raffling off three cool posters from Infojocks Sports Graphics. Details here.

About freakin’ time: Many of you have asked me to give the DIY posts their own category/tag/etc. Unfortunately, we were using an old, creaky version of WordPress and had maxed out the number of categories — I couldn’t add any more. But Johnny Ek upgraded us to a new version of WordPress a few days ago and, as you can see in the right rail, our list of categories now includes “DIY Projects.” If you click on that link, you’ll get all our past DIY entries grouped together in one spot. Sorry it took so long to achieve something so simple.

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Twitch, or Twat, or whatever the hell it’s called: Speaking of the tech upgrade, you may have noticed that there’s now a little “Follow us” link on the right side of your browser window. That’s because John has finally dragged me — semi-kicking, quasi-screaming — into the world of Twitter. Each new daily post here on the site automatically generates a new toot with a link to that post, plus I may occasionally flutter during the day, but I don’t expect to do it all that often (I mean, shit, this here web site should be enough of a soapbox for whatever I want to say, right?). Anyway, if you haven’t already done so, feel free to join the party.

And hey, as long as we’re talking about tech stuff: John is currently running some analytics to help us get a better grip on our traffic and readership. You can help by adding the Alexa add-on to your browser (it’s quick and painless, promise) and then filling out the little form thingie when your browser reboots. If you’d rather not, that’s fine; but if you’re willing, Firefox users can add Alexa here, and IE users can find it here. Thanks.

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Beefsteak Update: This Sunday’s Brooklyn Beefsteak event is sold out, although I’m told there may be some tickets available at the door. Keep an eye on this page for updates. For those of you who were smart enough to buy tix in advance, I’ll see you on Sunday.

Uni Watch Party Update: We’ll be gathering on Sunday the 15th, 2:30pm, at Sheep Station. Ryan Connelly’s coming all the way from Pittsburgh to attend, so all you NYCers really have no excuse not to show up.

Uni Watch News Ticker: As had been rumored earlier in the week, Ohio State will be wearing throwbacks on November 21st. This photo made the rounds yesterday, although it’s unclear if that’s the design that will be used on the 21st. I’m sure someone will leak the appropriate info shortly. … Chris Douglas-Roberts has a mighty long NOB (as spotted by James Savage). … Nicole Haase notes that Marquette’s retired number banners show each number in jersey-appropriate type and colors. … Steven Tatar sent me 20 more photos from his visit to that varsity jacket factory. … The Ducks (Anaheim, not Oregon) wore camouflage jerseys during warm-ups on Tuesday, as a military-appreciation gesture (with thanks to John Muir). … It’s one thing to put a ski jump in an outdoor stadium, but how about inside the Boston Garden? Brian Codagnone, quoting from a museum exhibit at the TD Garden Sports Museum, explains: “In the 1930s, when the ski craze first swept the East, sportsman Walter Brown became obsessed with the idea of hosting a winter carnival at Boston Garden. Stumped by the cost and difficulty of importing snow for indoor use, Brown one day passed a fish market, where he noticed a handsome cod packed in ice that was ‘chopped up so fine it looked like corn snow.’ The merchant showed him his grinding machine and Brown super-sized the concept, ordering larger versions that could handle 500 tons of ice. In December 1935, a five-story ski jump was erected in the Garden rafters and hundreds of amateur skiers showed up, unaware it was intended for professional jumping demonstrations. The concept of indoor slopes and annual ski shows caught on, and were copied at Madison Square Garden and other arenas.” … Chris Paul has been wearing a captain’s “C” (here’s how it looks on the road). “David West also wore a ‘C’ for the home opener vs. the Kings (it’s hard to see, but it’s there) but he didn’t wear one during the Spurs, Celtics or Knicks road games,” says Jason Hijuelos. … Check out Henrik Lundqvist’s lastest mask design (with thanks to Matt Harris). … England’s new rugby kit is the color of the beast (with thanks to Caleb Borchers). … Truly sensational video clip on old hockey sweaters here (big thanks to Ethan Crooks). … Mariano Rivera wore a road BP jesey at Yankee Stadium for Tuesday’s workout (good spot by Jonathon Binet). … I’m still calling it St. James’ Park (with thanks to Matt Beahan). … What brand are these jerseys? … Here’s a Sox in shorts photo I hadn’t seen before. Also, note that Moe Drabowski, at far left, is wearing his jersey tucked in, even though that jersey design was meant to be worn untucked (nice find, Phil). … Eric Romain notes that Sean Avery has already worn three different helmets this season. … Bill Scrowther found some excellent old photos on Utah’s state history site. Among the highlights: three separate examples of vertical placket lettering (look here, here, and here), a Budweiser-sponsored baseball team, and some very odd basketball pants. … Check out the second service listed on this page — a cure for logo creep! How awesome would it be if a few thousand jersey owners engaged her services? (Thanks, Kirsten.) … Further evidence of how corporate footwear deals make everyone behave like douchebags. … It was a very uni-uneventful World Series, but here’s a great tidbit from AJ Chalifour: All Series long, Mark Teixeira was wearing a pink MLB logo on his jersey.

 

221 comments to Homemade Earflaps Revisited

  • BuckeyeChief | November 5, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    Paul, if you, or anyone else has any more info on the Buckeye throw-backs, could you shed some light on them?

    (Raging debate on Buckeye blogs amongst us Buckeye fans…)

  • Artrip | November 5, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    Real quick, not to be nit-picky, but its Chris Douglas-Roberts, not Douglas-Edwards. But yes, thats quite a name.

  • Original Jim | November 5, 2009 at 9:03 am |

    Navarro is wearing Z-Wear http://www.z-wear.co...

  • Rick | November 5, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    The Navarro shirts’ logo looks somewhat like the top half of the Zett-sports logo. But they seem to do only martial arts gear… so that can’t really be it.

    Rivera’s glove struck me as strange. To my knowledge he’s always been a pitcher. The glove he has on for the work out is a 2-color open web model. It’s definitely not his gamer (which is entirely black and has a closed web), and it is even formally illegal to pitch wearing a 2 colored glove. Is he trying to go the Ankiel way?

    Based on the hint of the brand label on the finger I would also guess it’s a Wilson A2000 model, while Mariano wears a Nike branded one during games.

  • Shaun | November 5, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment=\”358251\”]Navarro is wearing Z-Wear http://www.z-wear.co...

    yup, theyre on the sample page for football. i guess they have a blue alt?

  • Ray Barrington | November 5, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.

  • Seth H | November 5, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    The Lundqvist mask is a nice idea, but I was at the game on Sunday and Lundqvist wore his usual mask.

    If you click to the 14th photo at this link — http://rangers.nhl.c... — you will see Henrik in his usual mask.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    I’m pretty sure MJ can convince Nike to supply UCF with some unis if he wants. On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing Air Zoom LeBron VIIs. I don’t know if that’s taking logo creep too seriously or if it’s merely the first recorded instance of a rivalry affecting footwear.
    http://www.nike-kick...

  • Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    Run, Forrest, Run:

    http://www.shorpy.co...

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing Air Zoom LeBrons for games. Is this taking branding too seriously or the first recorded instance of a rivalry affecting a player’s footwear choice?
    http://www.nike-kick...

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?

  • Mike Hersh | November 5, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    That White Sox picture with the shorts brings back memories. I used to own a home and away uniform set. I regret getting rid of them.

  • Randy Rollyson | November 5, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    Jimmie Hall, an outfielder on the 1965 Minnesota Twins, also wore the helmet flap in the ’65 World Series against the Dodgers. I saw it on the MLB network earlier this week, game 6. I believe game 7 is on this afternoon.

  • teamcinnamon | November 5, 2009 at 9:44 am |

    Uneventful Uni-World Series?

    Nike undershirts with the swooshes that were displayed in the center of the collars for all the players who wore them from the start of Game 1?

    The Phillies wearing the Cool-base jerseys last night when it was about 42 degrees in the Bronx?

    Joba wearing the non-Yankee stadium hat? I know this has been going on all season.

  • the BIG EGO | November 5, 2009 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”358259″]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]

    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, and now, much like a lot of the other EGOCENTRIC things he’s done, ie quit on his team, come back, etc, this cements his legacy as one of the biggest POS’s in the history of sports.

    His son wont wear a sneaker b/c it is not his ‘dad’s’ brand… do you know how many people in this country NEED shoes and cannot afford them? This is sickening and I think Adidas did the right thing.

  • JL | November 5, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.

  • chance michaels | November 5, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”358263″][quote comment=”358259″]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]

    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, [/quote]
    Wait, when? He’s been wholeheartedly, unabashedly out for himself since Day One.

  • Neil | November 5, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    Seth in Post 7 is correct. Lundqvist did not where that mask in the game. He wore it for warmups, but found it too uncomfortable to use in the game. Post-game interviews, he said that he hoped they got enough pictures during the warmups for authenticity because he was signing it and donating to charity.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”358261″]Jimmie Hall, an outfielder on the 1965 Minnesota Twins, also wore the helmet flap in the ’65 World Series against the Dodgers. I saw it on the MLB network earlier this week, game 6. I believe game 7 is on this afternoon.[/quote]

    Yup, was gonna mention that I thought Jimmie Hall also wore an improvised flapped helmet for the Twins. Not sure if it was trainer Doc Lentz or equipment guy Ray Crump who came up with the flaps, or it they did it in concert.

    —Ricko

  • We Got Ns In The Backfield | November 5, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    This CPU-hogging twitter crap on the web site is highly annoying.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”358265″]Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.[/quote]

    Interesting “2” on that uniform.

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”358263″][quote comment=”358259″]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]

    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, and now, much like a lot of the other EGOCENTRIC things he’s done, ie quit on his team, come back, etc, this cements his legacy as one of the biggest POS’s in the history of sports.

    His son wont wear a sneaker b/c it is not his ‘dad’s’ brand… do you know how many people in this country NEED shoes and cannot afford them? This is sickening and I think Adidas did the right thing.[/quote]

    No, what’s sickening is that corporate sponsership has gotten to the point where shoes are even an issue. If I’m a player, I want comfortable shoes. Screw the brand name.

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”358271″]Screw the brand name.[/quote]

    unless, of course, it’s your dad’s name

  • Congo | November 5, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    The MLB tag on the back of Teixeira’s uniform is not pink, but the color has faded from being washed. If you notice, the sleeve patches have faded during the season, and on some of the players, the patch is visibly lighter than others. I bet the same thing happened to Teixeira’s MLB logo.

  • Terence M. K. | November 5, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    “… Check out the second service listed on this page — a cure for logo creep! How awesome would it be if a few thousand jersey owners engaged her services? (Thanks, Kirsten.) …”

    Two interesting quotes from Miriam Dym’s Logo Removal Service:

    “Clients” can bring items with logos for me to remove to Non*Mart on opening night and I will remove logos right then and there.”

    As if they were “Johns” looking for a lil Logo De-Creeping in a back alley?…

    And:

    “Special interventions are sometimes required.”

    Ya see, Logo Creeping is an addiction and requires “Special Interventions”! Hahaha!!!

    Great find!!

    Terence M.K.

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”358272″][quote comment=”358271″]Screw the brand name.[/quote]

    unless, of course, it’s your dad’s name[/quote]

    The name gets the media attention. That doesn’t make the point any different, does it? The sponsership BS has gotten a bit insane.

    Would you still be calling him a selfish… whatever if it was some guy named Smith who wanted to wear Reebok instead of Adidas?

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    “Here’s a Sox in shorts photo I hadn’t seen before. Also, note that Moe Drabowski, at far left, is wearing his jersey tucked in, even though that jersey design was meant to be worn untucked (nice find, Phil)”
    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Moe Drabowsky ain’t wearing the correct socks, either. That’s from the news conference introducing the new unis. Player in shorts is, I’m pretty sure, ’59 CF Jim Landis…who just looks like Roger Dorn (Corbin Bernsen).

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    Imagine the relief in Beaverton now that’s they’re wrested the shoe deal at basketball juggernaut UCF away from adidas.

    Whew. Some celebratin’ goin’ on there, I reckon. Probably got girls an’ everything (in other words, a typical Friday at Ken Lay’s Enron).

    —Ricko

  • Shaggy | November 5, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    Using Colorado Buffaloes Uniform History as a protest in Boulder, CO! http://www.buffzone....

  • Pradajames | November 5, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    Can someone PLEEEAAASSSSEE make a “I’m still calling it St. James’ Park” shirt…white on black. Pretty please?

  • Alan #44 | November 5, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”358255″]The Lundqvist mask is a nice idea, but I was at the game on Sunday and Lundqvist wore his usual mask.

    If you click to the 14th photo at this link — http://rangers.nhl.c... — you will see Henrik in his usual mask.[/quote]

    I was at the game too. My son and I were close to the ice during warmups and he had it on then. We got a big kick out of the “ear thing” because in the old days the mask just covered the face and Plante had his ear showing. Afterwards, I read somewhere that Henrik wasnt comfortable in the new mask and went with his regular one for the game. Kudos to Matt for finding the pic online.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    I was all about the logo removal service until I saw the featured product!

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”358275″]Would you still be calling him a selfish… whatever if it was some guy named Smith who wanted to wear Reebok instead of Adidas?[/quote]

    i stated from the time this was first posted on these boards (read from post 200 down if you’d like) i thought this was a test case…jordan & UCF knew something like this was coming before he ever signed his letter of intent

    he never intended to wear adidas (or any other brand for that matter, other than jordans) and the matter has simply come to it’s (semi) logical conclusion…the only way for adidas to save face (since there was no way they were forcing jordan’s kid to wear 3 stripes) was to terminate the contract…something im quite sure had been discussed well in advance of him actually taking the court in something other than adidas shoes

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    From a late comment yesterday:

    [quote comment=”358227″]The talk of the Ohio State rivalry uniforms got me searching the Intrawebs … I found this Texas uniform (http://alt.coxnewswe...) is that their rivalry uni?[/quote]

    Damn… pic has been pulled! Did anyone snag it?

  • Tom | November 5, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    Went to the Blackhawks store on Michigan Ave in Chicago and they had a sign that said the new ‘Hawks alts will be on sale starting November 28. I asked the guy at the counter when we’d get to see them on the ice and he said likely December 2.

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”358260″]That White Sox picture with the shorts brings back memories. I used to own a home and away uniform set. I regret getting rid of them.[/quote]
    So, a home and away set… was that four jerseys and four sets of pants?

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?

  • Paul Lukas | November 5, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”358283″]From a late comment yesterday:

    [quote comment=”358227″]The talk of the Ohio State rivalry uniforms got me searching the Intrawebs … I found this Texas uniform (http://alt.coxnewswe...) is that their rivalry uni?[/quote]

    Damn… pic has been pulled! Did anyone snag it?[/quote]

    That’s for the Thanksgiving Day game — nothing new about it, it was announced months ago:
    http://www.statesman...

  • Flip | November 5, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Thanks for the Twitterfeed. Great move and, looking at the followers, it’s interesting to put faces to some of the commenters.

    Following up on yesterday’s excellent conversation, here’s a YouTube video that’s worth watching. It’s a professional photographer upset with rank amateurs overrunning his profession. His solution: Challenge the newbies to “put on the same uniform” as the pros, and get a sales tax permit.

  • chance michaels | November 5, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”358283″]From a late comment yesterday:

    [quote comment=”358227″]The talk of the Ohio State rivalry uniforms got me searching the Intrawebs … I found this Texas uniform (http://alt.coxnewswe...) is that their rivalry uni?[/quote]

    Damn… pic has been pulled! Did anyone snag it?[/quote]
    Check again – it’s up.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    About little bit about Ray Crump and the ear flap (p.159, if you accidently click of the page).

    http://books.google....

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”358283″]From a late comment yesterday:

    [quote comment=”358227″]The talk of the Ohio State rivalry uniforms got me searching the Intrawebs … I found this Texas uniform (http://alt.coxnewswe...) is that their rivalry uni?[/quote]

    Damn… pic has been pulled! Did anyone snag it?[/quote]

    it’s still there for me, but just in case…

    flickr’d for eternity

  • chance michaels | November 5, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]
    I dunno – maybe James Lovell?

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”358276″]”Here’s a Sox in shorts photo I hadn’t seen before. Also, note that Moe Drabowski, at far left, is wearing his jersey tucked in, even though that jersey design was meant to be worn untucked (nice find, Phil)”
    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Moe Drabowsky ain’t wearing the correct socks, either. That’s from the news conference introducing the new unis. Player in shorts is, I’m pretty sure, ’59 CF Jim Landis…who just looks like Roger Dorn (Corbin Bernsen).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I was wondering about the socks. Like, maybe they were trying out different styles before settling on a final striping pattern.

  • Dan G | November 5, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    This has been alluded to in the comments before, but MLB ump Joe West has his own line of umpiring equipment called The West Vest:

    http://www.umpirejoe...

    West was handling home plate duties in game 6, and was wearing what seemed like a pretty conspicuous ad for the product line (it’s absent from the models shown on his website). No screen grab, but you can kinda make it out in the first and sixth photos of this gallery:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/m...

    Anyone know if this is SOP for West?

  • Tom | November 5, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    Extra note about the Blackhawks store, they use the authentic numbers for all jerseys with NOB, even the replica ones. No crappy screen printed numbers.

  • Fight | November 5, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”358287″][quote comment=”358283″]From a late comment yesterday:

    [quote comment=”358227″]The talk of the Ohio State rivalry uniforms got me searching the Intrawebs … I found this Texas uniform (http://alt.coxnewswe...) is that their rivalry uni?[/quote]

    Damn… pic has been pulled! Did anyone snag it?[/quote]

    That’s for the Thanksgiving Day game — nothing new about it, it was announced months ago:
    http://www.statesman...
    Thanks Paul, I was wondering what it was for, because it doesn’t look too different from today’s uniform.

  • Flip | November 5, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    Thanks for the Twitterfeed. Great move and, looking at the followers, it’s interesting to put faces to some of the commenters.

    Following up on yesterday’s excellent conversation, here’s a YouTube video that’s worth watching. It’s a professional photographer upset with rank amateurs overrunning his profession. His solution: Challenge the newbies to “put on the same uniform” as the pros, and get a sales tax permit.

    Duh, might helpful to include the link: http://www.youtube.c...

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”358263″][quote comment=”358259″]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]
    It is unfortunate that the basketball program jeopardized all the other sports… arrogance, meh!
    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, and now, much like a lot of the other EGOCENTRIC things he’s done, ie quit on his team, come back, etc, this cements his legacy as one of the biggest POS’s in the history of sports.

    His son wont wear a sneaker b/c it is not his ‘dad’s’ brand… do you know how many people in this country NEED shoes and cannot afford them? This is sickening and I think Adidas did the right thing.[/quote]

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”358265″]Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.[/quote]
    Oh… that is a thing of beauty! Love the graphics too – where did that come from?

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]
    Never mind, I got it!

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”358300″][quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]
    Never mind, I got it![/quote]
    What do you mean “never mind?” SPILL!

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”358287″][quote comment=”358283″]From a late comment yesterday:

    [quote comment=”358227″]The talk of the Ohio State rivalry uniforms got me searching the Intrawebs … I found this Texas uniform (http://alt.coxnewswe...) is that their rivalry uni?[/quote]

    Damn… pic has been pulled! Did anyone snag it?[/quote]

    That’s for the Thanksgiving Day game — nothing new about it, it was announced months ago:
    http://www.statesman...
    Thanks, wanted to make sure I had not missed anything. I am still hoping Aggie Athletics surprises us with a throwback for that game as well!

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”358301″][quote comment=”358300″][quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]
    Never mind, I got it![/quote]
    What do you mean “never mind?” SPILL![/quote]
    Something to do with the The Père Marquette Discovery Award – it is Marquette University’s highest honor. “In the spirit of the discoveries of Père Jacques Marquette, the award honors those who achieve an extraordinary breakthrough that adds to human knowledge or the advancement of humanity”. The Apollo 11 crew received it in 1969. I will do some research to find info on the warm-up patch for my space blog.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”358299″][quote comment=”358265″]Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.[/quote]
    Oh… that is a thing of beauty! Love the graphics too – where did that come from?[/quote]

    I’m still the only one who has noticed the “2” is a flipped “S”?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    ’55 Rose Bowl…
    http://gosu02.tripod...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    try it this way…
    http://gosu02.tripod...

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    #26 for USC is Jon Arnett, who went on to have some spectacular seasons with the LA Rams.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko

  • Lwiedy | November 5, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”358263″][quote comment=”358259″]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]

    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, and now, much like a lot of the other EGOCENTRIC things he’s done, ie quit on his team, come back, etc, this cements his legacy as one of the biggest POS’s in the history of sports.
    [/quote]

    Pretty much everyone, even his biggest honks on the WWL, has come on board about MJ. Especially since the embarrassment that was his own HOF speech. Of course, they always seem to qualify the opinion with “But that’s what made him the best ever” as if it is impossible to be one without the other.

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”358304″][quote comment=”358299″][quote comment=”358265″]Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.[/quote]
    Oh… that is a thing of beauty! Love the graphics too – where did that come from?[/quote]

    I’m still the only one who has noticed the “2” is a flipped “S”?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I noticed that too. I’m hoping that’s an artist error and not accurate. Backwards S 2’s are not very cool.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”358304″][quote comment=”358299″][quote comment=”358265″]Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.[/quote]
    Oh… that is a thing of beauty! Love the graphics too – where did that come from?[/quote]

    I’m still the only one who has noticed the “2” is a flipped “S”?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Um… I noticed the missing corner AFTER you pointed it out!

  • DJ | November 5, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    So, a home and away set… was that four jerseys and four sets of pants?

    No, three. At first, the White Sox wore navy pants that were either knee-length, clam-digger length, or the shorts (once or twice). The shorts were dropped, and late in Bill Veeck’s ownership, they introduced the white pants with a navy stripe. When Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn bought the White Sox after the 1980 season, they wanted to change the uniforms, but learned they had missed the deadline. For the 1981 season, they went with the white pants for all games, with a white jersey at home and a dark blue one on the road (the color seemed to lighten over the years, when they switched from a solid double-knit jersey to a nylon mesh jersey with tiny air-holes, similar to the football jerseys of the time).

  • Maks | November 5, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    got it off twitter… googled and is true… interesting name: Just-in’love Smith

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”358313″]got it off twitter… googled and is true… interesting name: Just-in’love Smith[/quote]

    Wow. That guy’s childhood must’ve sucked.

  • Craig | November 5, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    Another Best/Worst Jersey list. This one from Yahoo! Sports. the 5 Best and 5 Worst NHL Jeresys of the past decade.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”358303″][quote comment=”358301″][quote comment=”358300″][quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]
    In search of a shot of the warm-ups, I found this really cool Marquette Jersey (maybe old news to some of you – but bitchin’ sweet to me)!
    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]
    Never mind, I got it![/quote]
    What do you mean “never mind?” SPILL![/quote]
    Something to do with the The Père Marquette Discovery Award – it is Marquette University’s highest honor. “In the spirit of the discoveries of Père Jacques Marquette, the award honors those who achieve an extraordinary breakthrough that adds to human knowledge or the advancement of humanity”. The Apollo 11 crew received it in 1969. I will do some research to find info on the warm-up patch for my space blog.[/quote]

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”358308″]Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Works for me. But then again, I like this and this. I know a lot of folks around these parts don’t.

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    Oops! Forgot the close the first tag. Anyone care to guess what I do for a living?

    Damn this upgrade and the loss of the preview feature. Let’s try that again.

    [quote comment=”358308″]Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Works for me. But then again, I like this and this. I know a lot of folks around these parts don’t.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”358303″][quote comment=”358301″][quote comment=”358300″][quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]
    Never mind, I got it![/quote]
    What do you mean “never mind?” SPILL![/quote]
    Something to do with the The Père Marquette Discovery Award – it is Marquette University’s highest honor. “In the spirit of the discoveries of Père Jacques Marquette, the award honors those who achieve an extraordinary breakthrough that adds to human knowledge or the advancement of humanity”. The Apollo 11 crew received it in 1969. I will do some research to find info on the warm-up patch for my space blog.[/quote]

    Having issues with the comment box today…. where did the preview go anyway?

    In search of a shot of the warm-ups, I found this really cool Marquette Jersey (maybe old news to some of you – but bitchin’ sweet to me)!

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”358319″]Having issues with the comment box today…. where did the preview go anyway?
    [/quote]
    I guess I’m not the only one going through preview withdrawal.

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”358308″]Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Great look. Nice, simple way to allude to the state flag.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko

  • JL | November 5, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”358304″][quote comment=”358299″][quote comment=”358265″]Here is an image of what the actual 1954 Ohio State football uniform looked like. It will be interesting to see how “cutting-edge fabrics and technology” incorporate a 55-year old throwback uniform…

    Personally, I think it’s just Nike trying to slap Michigan in the face for switching to Adidas.[/quote]
    Oh… that is a thing of beauty! Love the graphics too – where did that come from?[/quote]

    I’m still the only one who has noticed the “2” is a flipped “S”?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    SWC Susan (aka Tex) – the first I’d heard of these uni’s was lastnight on 11PM local news on WBNS-10TV Columbus. They showed that same image, saying nothing official had been released by the university, but The Columbus Dispatch had that rendering. This morning I tried to find the rendering, it wasn’t on the Dispatch’s website, but I traced it down to an OSU blog where someone had the same image I linked above, which as far as I could tell was the same image on the news lastnight.

    Ricko – nice work tracking down that ’55 Rose Bowl image…too bad we can’t see what the numbers look like, eh!?!?

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    Oh. My. God! Wow

  • Roger Faso | November 5, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    Is this the worst athletic equipment story or what?

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    With a title like that, you’d think you’d be in for a nice, informative tidbit. Instead, you get a big ol’ non-story about nothing.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    Wow, it was cool enough seeing the stadium ski jumps yesterday…now you’re telling me they had them in the Boston Garden and MSG? Who needs arena football? Give me arena ski jumping instead!

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’m going to disagree slightly. I do think the Broncos are the best of the “modern” designs, but I think a uniform like the Broncos is designed to be single colored. With the side panel lining up with the pant swoosh, it works better as a solid color… all blue or all white, or, though it doesn’t currently exist… all orange.

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so…you’re saying you like this but you don’t like this

    frankly, i think the broncos should ditch the blue and go with the orange full time … but without the uni swooshes

  • Mike Hersh | November 5, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”358285″][quote comment=”358260″]That White Sox picture with the shorts brings back memories. I used to own a home and away uniform set. I regret getting rid of them.[/quote]
    So, a home and away set… was that four jerseys and four sets of pants?[/quote]
    Two jerseys and two shorts

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”358328″][quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so…you’re saying you like this but you don’t like this

    frankly, i think the broncos should ditch the blue and go with the orange full time … but without the uni swooshes[/quote]

    If you’re going to do that, you might as well go back to a standard helmet stripe too. Which would be fine with me either way… my team seems to play better against the Broncos in orange than in blue.

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”358329″][quote comment=”358285″][quote comment=”358260″]That White Sox picture with the shorts brings back memories. I used to own a home and away uniform set. I regret getting rid of them.[/quote]
    So, a home and away set… was that four jerseys and four sets of pants?[/quote]
    Two jerseys and two shorts[/quote]
    Oh, man… that’s even better. Now I regret that you got rid of them.

  • mmwatkin | November 5, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”358297″]Thanks for the Twitterfeed. Great move and, looking at the followers, it’s interesting to put faces to some of the commenters.

    Following up on yesterday’s excellent conversation, here’s a YouTube video that’s worth watching. It’s a professional photographer upset with rank amateurs overrunning his profession. His solution: Challenge the newbies to “put on the same uniform” as the pros, and get a sales tax permit.

    Duh, might helpful to include the link: http://www.youtube.c...

    The guys makes a good point, but he comes off as a total Douche Canoe

  • UmpLou | November 5, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    The West Vest has been around a long time, and since MLB has an exclusive deal with Wilson for ump euipment, they don’t care. And you forgot that Gerry Davis, who was the crew chief thi syear, has his own his own line of umpire gear

    I regularly buy stuff from Davis…his leg guards are the BEST

    BRING BACK THE PREVIEW!!

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=\”358309\”][quote comment=\”358263\”][quote comment=\”358259\”]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]

    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, and now, much like a lot of the other EGOCENTRIC things he\’s done, ie quit on his team, come back, etc, this cements his legacy as one of the biggest POS\’s in the history of sports.
    [/quote]

    Pretty much everyone, even his biggest honks on the WWL, has come on board about MJ. Especially since the embarrassment that was his own HOF speech. Of course, they always seem to qualify the opinion with “But that’s what made him the best ever” as if it is impossible to be one without the other.[/quote]
    I originally meant that it shouldn’t be too hard to get two entities who are all about expanding their brands to do just that. I didn’t mean to start a bitch session about Michael Jordan.

    For the record, I don’t have a problem with logo creep or blanket sponsorships as long as it doesn’t interfere with the uniforms. What Nike does wrong is to create templates, like the SoD, that make every team look like palette swaps from an old video game.

    Also, sorry about the triple post. The first two weren’t showing up when I posted them for some reason.

  • Jason | November 5, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    SI has photo of each Yankees world series year. My question is what’s going on here:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Pants and cleats in an undershirt and no stirrups. Was this standard for batting practice in 1937? Wouldn’t it be easier to just wear the stirrups than to have to take the cleats back off to get redressed?

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”358272″][quote comment=”358271″]Screw the brand name.[/quote]

    unless, of course, it’s your dad’s name[/quote]

    Wait, didn’t Marcus not go to UNC because he wanted to be his own person and not follow in his dad’s footsteps? Yet he insists on wearing his dad’s shoes. Fine, go to a Nike college, then.

    Better yet, screw the brand name – I always have. I remember when I was friends with a couple of inner city kids. We’d go to the mall and they’d immediately check out the newest Jordans and buy them. Never mind that their house was falling apart and they hardly had anything else to their name, they had to have those Jordans. Then they’d laugh and make me feel like a yokel because I wore comfortable yet inexpensive sneakers (the most I ever paid was $60, and that pair lasted almost nine years).

    I wonder if it ever bothered MJ and the other sneaker guys that at one end there are kids making their shoes for pennies, while at the other end there are other kids who can barely afford the shoes but “have to have them.” I’m not a big Stephon Marbury fan, but at least he gets it.

  • Flip | November 5, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”358336″]Better yet, screw the brand name – I always have. I remember when I was friends with a couple of inner city kids. We’d go to the mall and they’d immediately check out the newest Jordans and buy them. Never mind that their house was falling apart and they hardly had anything else to their name, they had to have those Jordans. Then they’d laugh and make me feel like a yokel because I wore comfortable yet inexpensive sneakers (the most I ever paid was $60, and that pair lasted almost nine years).[/quote]
    I have a few pairs of Chucks, a pair of black Adidas Sambas, and a pair of brown Puma Bennies. They look good, work fine, and are comfortable. I’ve never spent more than $60 for non-dress shoes and I’ll never understand why someone other than a professional athlete would.

  • Jason | November 5, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    David West had the “C” on his jersey again for last night’s home game vs. the Mavs. I’ve never heard a player only being designated a captain at home games. Paul, have you ever heard of such a thing?

    Anyway, is a better shot of West’s captain’s “C” from last night. (at least, I hope the link works; my HTML-fu is not strong)

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, this is unabashed homerism, but since I’ve come to grips with the number font (I believe it’s designed to mimic the look of the Flying WV logo), and they’ve been cleaned up a bit, I rather like WVU’s all-blues:

    http://cache.daylife...

    And the all-whites:

    http://media2.tbo.co...

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”358340″]I rather like WVU’s all-blues:

    http://cache.daylife...

    while im not a fan of the more modern uni design, i will admit that WVU’s actually works, and quite well…part of the reason it does so is it’s not overly enthusiastic in the use of bumperstickers, it ONLY uses two colors (without extra piping and such) and they wear white socks, thereby avoiding the dreaded leotard effect…and it contrasts nicely with (i believe) auburn’s classic look

    if going with a modern design, this one is certainly one of the better ones

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”358340″][quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, this is unabashed homerism, but since I’ve come to grips with the number font (I believe it’s designed to mimic the look of the Flying WV logo), and they’ve been cleaned up a bit, I rather like WVU’s all-blues:

    http://cache.daylife...

    And the all-whites:

    http://media2.tbo.co...

    One more try for all-whites:

    http://media2.tbo.co...

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    Eh, forget it.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”358341″][quote comment=”358340″]I rather like WVU’s all-blues:

    http://cache.daylife...

    while im not a fan of the more modern uni design, i will admit that WVU’s actually works, and quite well…part of the reason it does so is it’s not overly enthusiastic in the use of bumperstickers, it ONLY uses two colors (without extra piping and such) and they wear white socks, thereby avoiding the dreaded leotard effect…and it contrasts nicely with (i believe) auburn’s classic look

    if going with a modern design, this one is certainly one of the better ones[/quote]

    Wow, Phil and I agree. I’d wear that uni.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”358343″]Eh, forget it.[/quote]

    Try this one, Bernard:
    http://5goldenrings....

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”358328″][quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so…you’re saying you like this but you don’t like this

    frankly, i think the broncos should ditch the blue and go with the orange full time … but without the uni swooshes[/quote]

    I’m saying the newer style unis are here to stay, so maybe we should grab hold of reality and have a poll of the five (or ten) best…with no, “Yeah, but they should change this or that.”

    Let’s just see who we think has done it well.

    (And I like that the Broncos change the pants to match their white jerseys, too. The easy way out would be to wear the same white pants with both jerseys.)
    http://www.billszone...

    —Ricko

  • pflava | November 5, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”358328″]
    frankly, i think the broncos should ditch the blue and go with the orange full time … but without the uni swooshes[/quote]

    Amen! That’s exactly how they should look.

  • Macky | November 5, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    http://www.orlandose...

    I believe the “Jordan” team at least tried to even up the situation here. Marcus wore a un-logocreeped AJ12’s with an unecessary anklestrap creeped out with Adidas. However, UCF didn’t lose anything regarding this issue. It’s only a a $3mil contract. Heck Marcus’ daddy will cover that with no problem. And I’ll tell you what, all UCF athlete are more excited about this situation because now UCF is back (probably) to being a “Nike” school. And UCF will take advantage of this for recruiting athletes for years to come.

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”358345″][quote comment=”358343″]Eh, forget it.[/quote]

    Try this one, Bernard:
    http://5goldenrings....

    Great shot. Thanks, Jim!

  • Teebz | November 5, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”358338″][quote comment=”358336″]Better yet, screw the brand name – I always have. I remember when I was friends with a couple of inner city kids. We’d go to the mall and they’d immediately check out the newest Jordans and buy them. Never mind that their house was falling apart and they hardly had anything else to their name, they had to have those Jordans. Then they’d laugh and make me feel like a yokel because I wore comfortable yet inexpensive sneakers (the most I ever paid was $60, and that pair lasted almost nine years).[/quote]
    I have a few pairs of Chucks, a pair of black Adidas Sambas, and a pair of brown Puma Bennies. They look good, work fine, and are comfortable. I’ve never spent more than $60 for non-dress shoes and I’ll never understand why someone other than a professional athlete would.[/quote]

    I have a pair of Jordans that I bought for half price, and they were still $100. My Jordans, however, are from something like 1995. And I still wear them for indoor court sports.

    I also have a pair of adidas shoes that have begun to fall apart. However, they were incredible court shoes for volleyball. I must have played 90-100 games in them in high school, and they are now showing their wear. When I bought them in 1996, they were $119 and were the latest shoe model. My parents nearly had coronaries in stereo.

    Personally, the adidas shoes are way more comfy for everyday use, and I’d wear them all the time if they didn’t look significantly different due to their emphasis on the balls of the feet. And if they weren’t falling apart. LOL

    I know this would be career suicide for a coach, but if I were the head coach of the basketball team and adidas told me they were pulling their contract, I’d cut MJ Jr.

    You wanna be like dad? He got cut once in his career as well, kid.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”358346″][quote comment=”358328″][quote comment=”358322″]I’m saying the newer style unis are here to stay, so maybe we should grab hold of reality and have a poll of the five (or ten) best…with no, “Yeah, but they should change this or that.”

    Let’s just see who we think has done it well.

    (And I like that the Broncos change the pants to match their white jerseys, too. The easy way out would be to wear the same white pants with both jerseys.)
    http://www.billszone...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well gee, any uni looks good next to the Bills! ;)

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”358335″]SI has photo of each Yankees world series year. My question is what’s going on here:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Pants and cleats in an undershirt and no stirrups. Was this standard for batting practice in 1937? Wouldn’t it be easier to just wear the stirrups than to have to take the cleats back off to get redressed?[/quote]

    Yup, pretty common back then. Besides, the public doesn’t see it because generally gates don’t open until after home team is done with the field.

    Those older wool socks (and unis in general) were a helluva a lot warmer. No sense putting on the last layer until you had to. Sometimes guys would put on fresh sanis (or everything fresh) for the game, so they were gonna take off the cleats anyway. Especially when at home because a) as I said, no one saw you hit and take infield, b) you have all your equipment at your disposal at home, not just what was packed, and c) so much waiting around while visitors hit, etc. Some guys would (and still do, I think), shower and redress completely.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”358346″]I’m saying the newer style unis are here to stay, so maybe we should grab hold of reality and have a poll of the five (or ten) best…with no, “Yeah, but they should change this or that.”

    Let’s just see who we think has done it well.

    (And I like that the Broncos change the pants to match their white jerseys, too. The easy way out would be to wear the same white pants with both jerseys.)
    http://www.billszone...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    fair points, rick…that’s why i (semi) lauded WVU…

    just compare this mess to this

    essentially, the same uni, but WVU avoids the leotard effect and has (to my eye) a more pleasing helmet…

    i’ll say one thing (and im actually agreeing with THE jeff here) … these modern unis are certainly designed to be worn as monochromes…whether one likes that look or not, they’re definitely designed that way…and if we’re going to compare and contrast the modern unis (particularly where monochromes are concerned)…we must consider helmets and socks and how they complete (or ruin) the overall look

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”358342″][quote comment=”358340″][quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, this is unabashed homerism, but since I’ve come to grips with the number font (I believe it’s designed to mimic the look of the Flying WV logo), and they’ve been cleaned up a bit, I rather like WVU’s all-blues:

    http://cache.daylife...

    And the all-whites:

    http://media2.tbo.co...

    One more try for all-whites:

    http://media2.tbo.co...

    And West Virginia might be my number two of the Innovatve unis…even the mono athletic gold. Largely because they are smart enough to avoid the jazz dancing leotard look by sticking with white socks (either crew length or high). And because navy and yellow-gold work really well together.

    A couple of South Carolina’s combos look pretty good, too.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    Too bad West Virginia wusses out and doesn’t mirror the navy pants with thicker pants trim on the golds…
    http://1.bp.blogspot...
    http://cache.daylife...

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    Error 404 on the WVU all-whites, Tater.

  • Chris | November 5, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    I think there’s something we all missed today. Happy Guy Fawkes Day

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    OK, since we’ve gone down this path…

    We’ve “adopted” a couple kids for Christmas this year. One of them wants a pair of Nike Air Force Ones. At least I think that’s what he wants — my wife told me he wants Air Jordan Air Force Ones, but I don’t think that’s an actual shoe. (Maybe it is, but what the hell do I know?)

    So I ask her, “What kind?” Because, of course, there are probably at least 300 different varieties of this shoe. You’ve got your hi/lo/mid plus about 100 different color combos of each.

    She just shrugged and told me that she figured I could make that decision because that’s “my thing.”

    I have no idea why she thinks this is the case. Like a few others have mentioned today, I am a footwear minimalist (Chuck Taylors, Dr. Martens, maybe some Vans, Airwalk, etc.) and I wear them until they fall apart. So I’m basically clueless as to what shoes to get this kid.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.

  • Bryan | November 5, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”358313″]got it off twitter… googled and is true… interesting name: Just-in’love Smith[/quote]
    http://blog.timesuni...

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”358356″]Error 404 on the WVU all-whites, Tater.[/quote]

    Yeah, I know. Check post #96 for the clarifying assist from JimV19.

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”358358″]OK, since we’ve gone down this path…

    We’ve “adopted” a couple kids for Christmas this year. One of them wants a pair of Nike Air Force Ones. At least I think that’s what he wants — my wife told me he wants Air Jordan Air Force Ones, but I don’t think that’s an actual shoe. (Maybe it is, but what the hell do I know?)

    So I ask her, “What kind?” Because, of course, there are probably at least 300 different varieties of this shoe. You’ve got your hi/lo/mid plus about 100 different color combos of each.

    She just shrugged and told me that she figured I could make that decision because that’s “my thing.”

    I have no idea why she thinks this is the case. Like a few others have mentioned today, I am a footwear minimalist (Chuck Taylors, Dr. Martens, maybe some Vans, Airwalk, etc.) and I wear them until they fall apart. So I’m basically clueless as to what shoes to get this kid.[/quote]

    Gift certificate to the shoe store?

    Let the kid buy them himself so they actually fit.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970!

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”358362″][quote comment=”358358″]OK, since we’ve gone down this path…

    We’ve “adopted” a couple kids for Christmas this year. One of them wants a pair of Nike Air Force Ones. At least I think that’s what he wants — my wife told me he wants Air Jordan Air Force Ones, but I don’t think that’s an actual shoe. (Maybe it is, but what the hell do I know?)

    So I ask her, “What kind?” Because, of course, there are probably at least 300 different varieties of this shoe. You’ve got your hi/lo/mid plus about 100 different color combos of each.

    She just shrugged and told me that she figured I could make that decision because that’s “my thing.”

    I have no idea why she thinks this is the case. Like a few others have mentioned today, I am a footwear minimalist (Chuck Taylors, Dr. Martens, maybe some Vans, Airwalk, etc.) and I wear them until they fall apart. So I’m basically clueless as to what shoes to get this kid.[/quote]

    Gift certificate to the shoe store?

    Let the kid buy them himself so they actually fit.[/quote]
    Yeah, I suppose. But gift certificates are lame. I was just thinking of getting the shoes with a gift receipt and let him return them and get the ones he wants.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”358362″][quote comment=”358358″]OK, since we’ve gone down this path…

    We’ve “adopted” a couple kids for Christmas this year. One of them wants a pair of Nike Air Force Ones. At least I think that’s what he wants — my wife told me he wants Air Jordan Air Force Ones, but I don’t think that’s an actual shoe. (Maybe it is, but what the hell do I know?)

    So I ask her, “What kind?” Because, of course, there are probably at least 300 different varieties of this shoe. You’ve got your hi/lo/mid plus about 100 different color combos of each.

    She just shrugged and told me that she figured I could make that decision because that’s “my thing.”

    I have no idea why she thinks this is the case. Like a few others have mentioned today, I am a footwear minimalist (Chuck Taylors, Dr. Martens, maybe some Vans, Airwalk, etc.) and I wear them until they fall apart. So I’m basically clueless as to what shoes to get this kid.[/quote]

    Gift certificate to the shoe store?

    Let the kid buy them himself so they actually fit.[/quote]

    The Jeff’s right. Fit’s pretty important. Then, if you’re able, go with them to the store to pick them out. That, to me, would be the fun part…watching the kid’s mind work, knowing he’s getting exactly what he wants. You’ll see some-kinda big ol’ happy smile then, JTH.

    —Ricko

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”358361″][quote comment=”358356″]Error 404 on the WVU all-whites, Tater.[/quote]

    Yeah, I know. Check post #96 for the clarifying assist from JimV19.[/quote]
    Much better, thanks. I would have made the pant stripes navy with gold trim myself, since gold doesn’t really contrast well with white under the sun. Yes, even with the jersey stripes being gold, I still would go with navy/gold on the pants instead of gold/navy.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”358363″][quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970![/quote]

    I have a color photo of those striped babies from an SI basketball preview issue (I think it’s SI), so that makes it look like they had them from the get-go. Sent it to Paul maybe a year ago and he ran it in the Ticker. I’ll flickr and repost it this afternoon or tonight.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”358365″]
    The Jeff’s right.
    [/quote]
    Wow. How often does that happen? And it’s happened at least twice today (you and Phil).
    [quote comment=”358365″]Fit’s pretty important. Then, if you’re able, go with them to the store to pick them out. That, to me, would be the fun part…watching the kid’s mind work, knowing he’s getting exactly what he wants. You’ll see some-kinda big ol’ happy smile then, JTH.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Yeah, good idea. The trouble is that I don’t think we’ll actually have contact with these kids. Someone’s just going to collect the gifts and pass them along. Maybe I’m wrong about that, though.

    Or maybe this is all just a big scam. That someone who collects the gifts will just give them to his kids.

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”358359″]I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I’ll probably have them until the day I die because they’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don’t get worn too often.

  • Greenie | November 5, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”358346″][quote comment=”358328″][quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so…you’re saying you like this but you don’t like this

    frankly, i think the broncos should ditch the blue and go with the orange full time … but without the uni swooshes[/quote]

    I’m saying the newer style unis are here to stay, so maybe we should grab hold of reality and have a poll of the five (or ten) best…with no, “Yeah, but they should change this or that.”

    Let’s just see who we think has done it well.

    (And I like that the Broncos change the pants to match their white jerseys, too. The easy way out would be to wear the same white pants with both jerseys.)
    http://www.billszone...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    First, we’d need a clear list of which teams are considered old-school and which ones are new. The NFL should be easy to tackle, but the NCAA is a much longer list to consider.

    -Greenie

    So all those posts that start with ‘Ricko said’ (or whoever) are people responding via Twitter?

  • Greenie | November 5, 2009 at 1:50 pm |

    nevermind, that’s just the new system working…

  • Ray Barrington | November 5, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]

    Here’s an item from SI 11-10-69:
    Apollo 11 astronauts are to be honored by Marquette Saturday when the university presents them with the school’s first P�re Marquette Discovery Award Medals—and three basketball warmup suits and jerseys. Marquette Captain Joe Thomas will give Buzz Aldrin, Mike Collins and Neil Armstrong jerseys bearing the No. 11. But the school will take them right back again, retire the number and hang the jerseys in the gymnasium. For the rest of the season Marquette basketball players will wear replicas of the Apollo 11 patch on their uniforms. As for the astronauts, they will wear those warmup suits, tailored from NASA’s measurements and especially designed for jogging.

  • Chris | November 5, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”358369″][quote comment=”358359″]I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I’ll probably have them until the day I die because they’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don’t get worn too often.[/quote]
    The real question is whether the Chucks made in China under Nike-owned Converse will have that kind of durability.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 5, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    I need to get some of those “bullshit protectors” featured in the opening picture. I really need to get them.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”358373″][quote comment=”358369″][quote comment=”358359″]I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I’ll probably have them until the day I die because they’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don’t get worn too often.[/quote]
    The real question is whether the Chucks made in China under Nike-owned Converse will have that kind of durability.[/quote]

    I’m sure they will… but the canvas will have a healthy dosage of lead paint.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”358370″][quote comment=”358346″][quote comment=”358328″][quote comment=”358322″]I was thinking…(always a dangerous thing)…

    Football unis have split decidedly into two camps
    1. Traditional
    2. Innovative

    And that’s fine. I don’t love or hate all the unis in either category.

    Maybe what we need is pick the five best looking football unis (college or pro) that DON’T have striped pants (don’t mean plain like Notre Dame, mean those with panels, piping or designs that AREN’T plain ol’ straight stripes).

    Me, I think I’d vote for the Broncos home (navy jersey) version as number one. But not the navy pants. Nossir, no way. Good colors, good design, didn’t go overboard.
    http://www1.pictures...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so…you’re saying you like this but you don’t like this

    frankly, i think the broncos should ditch the blue and go with the orange full time … but without the uni swooshes[/quote]

    I’m saying the newer style unis are here to stay, so maybe we should grab hold of reality and have a poll of the five (or ten) best…with no, “Yeah, but they should change this or that.”

    Let’s just see who we think has done it well.

    (And I like that the Broncos change the pants to match their white jerseys, too. The easy way out would be to wear the same white pants with both jerseys.)
    http://www.billszone...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    First, we’d need a clear list of which teams are considered old-school and which ones are new. The NFL should be easy to tackle, but the NCAA is a much longer list to consider.

    -Greenie

    So all those posts that start with ‘Ricko said’ (or whoever) are people responding via Twitter?[/quote]

    Simply, I guess it would be any teams with no pants stripes (plain, like Notre Dame or Penn State) or straight parallel pants stripes from top to bottom…would NOT be eligible. That would pretty much cover it, I think. Most team that have done something new pants stripes also have changes jerseys.

    Yeah, there’d be some that would get lost, but it’s just a “favorites” poll, an inexact science at best, anyway. Temple, for instance. I guess they could go either way. Someone wants to vote for them, I wouldn’t throw out the vote.

    I dunno, is just an idea. Cuz despite what some might think, I really like many of the newer unis. Oregon before they added black, for example (not so much the mix-and-match, but the yellow set, forest set, white set, all with the forest helmet). A real guilty pleasure for me.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | November 5, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”358348″]http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-11/50297471.jpg

    I believe the “Jordan” team at least tried to even up the situation here. Marcus wore a un-logocreeped AJ12’s with an unecessary anklestrap creeped out with Adidas. However, UCF didn’t lose anything regarding this issue. It’s only a a $3mil contract. Heck Marcus’ daddy will cover that with no problem. And I’ll tell you what, all UCF athlete are more excited about this situation because now UCF is back (probably) to being a “Nike” school. And UCF will take advantage of this for recruiting athletes for years to come.[/quote]

    I can tell you, as a student at UCF, I’m really excited about the possible/probable switch. I’m an RA and a lot of my residents are athletes (mostly football) and I know for a fact that the only adidas gear they wear is team issued. Everything else is Nike.

    Also, all of the current adidas teams (Notre Dame, Tennessee, among others) are for the most part terrible or are programs in decline. And like Phil said, the swoosh attracts talent, I don’t care who you are.

    I’m a bit scared for possible redesigns of our athletic uniforms (especially football, as I think our unis are very under-rated IMHO) especially as our teams are not as renowned as those of Florida, Penn State, etc… without strong uniform histories. But nonetheless, I’m still excited.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”358358″]OK, since we’ve gone down this path…

    We’ve “adopted” a couple kids for Christmas this year. One of them wants a pair of Nike Air Force Ones. At least I think that’s what he wants — my wife told me he wants Air Jordan Air Force Ones, but I don’t think that’s an actual shoe. (Maybe it is, but what the hell do I know?)

    So I ask her, “What kind?” Because, of course, there are probably at least 300 different varieties of this shoe. You’ve got your hi/lo/mid plus about 100 different color combos of each.

    She just shrugged and told me that she figured I could make that decision because that’s “my thing.”

    I have no idea why she thinks this is the case. Like a few others have mentioned today, I am a footwear minimalist (Chuck Taylors, Dr. Martens, maybe some Vans, Airwalk, etc.) and I wear them until they fall apart. So I’m basically clueless as to what shoes to get this kid.[/quote]

    Get him a pair of Starburys along with a handwritten note about the benefits of thriftiness and holding your head up high no matter what you wear. Our kids get a modified oral version of that presentation when they get one and only one of the many toys they requested.

  • Marc Colombo | November 5, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    just wanted to say that i love you guys work here at uniwatch. keep it up!

    Marc Colombo 75
    Dallas Cowboys
    Free Reign

    @MarcColombo
    MarcColombo.com

  • concealed78 | November 5, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”358263″][quote comment=”358259″]I’m sure MJ can convince Nike to pick up the UCF contract if he wants.

    On a similar note, Mike Miller is in trouble with his teammates for wearing his Air Zoom LeBrons against the Cavs. Is this taking personal branding too seriously or a case of a rivalry affecting someone’s footwear choice?[/quote]

    You know I used to think MJ was a great person, and now, much like a lot of the other EGOCENTRIC things he’s done, ie quit on his team, come back, etc, this cements his legacy as one of the biggest POS’s in the history of sports.

    His son wont wear a sneaker b/c it is not his ‘dad’s’ brand… do you know how many people in this country NEED shoes and cannot afford them? This is sickening and I think Adidas did the right thing.[/quote]

    As a Bulls fan, for as great as a player MJ was, his personality is a douche, and his son is no exception. It is absolutely ridiculous for his son not to wear Addias shoes with the rest of the team, just because who his daddy is. I have no problem boycotting all-things Nike.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”358377″]Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I like the Rams, too. I also like the Toronto Argonauts http://www.torontoon... and the Edmonton Eskimos http://en.wikipedia....
    The Argos’ current set isn’t as good as the Condredge Holloway years, but it’s good. As for the Esks, I think this is their best look ever.

    Back in the States, I like Saint Anselm. http://athletics.ans...

    Have to look around for some others.

  • Jason Shane | November 5, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    Non*Mart looks awesome, and it’s right around the corner from where I live.

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”358377″]Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’d think “non-straight pant stripes, piping or a side panel” is probably a good enough filter to catch all the modern teams. There’s always going to be a little bit of a fuzzy area.

    Off the top of my head, here’s what I’d use for the “modern” NFL teams.

    Broncos, Cardinals, Falcons, Vikings, Bills, Bengals and Jaguars.

    The Seahawks, Titans, Panthers and Patriots are all sorta borderline.

    I’d say the rest of the league at least leans towards the traditional side.

    The NCAA is definitely going to be a much larger list.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”358375″][quote comment=”358373″][quote comment=”358369″][quote comment=”358359″]I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I’ll probably have them until the day I die because they’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don’t get worn too often.[/quote]
    The real question is whether the Chucks made in China under Nike-owned Converse will have that kind of durability.[/quote]

    I’m sure they will… but the canvas will have a healthy dosage of lead paint.[/quote]
    Nah, I’ve had one pair less than a year and the trim is all barely hanging on. They aren’t going to fall apart per se, but the stuff that’s not actually holding them together comes off pretty easily.

  • LarryB | November 5, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    I guess UCLA is wearing throwbacks this Saturday vs Washington. 1967 style

    http://www.uclabruin...

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”358384″][quote comment=”358377″]Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’d think “non-straight pant stripes, piping or a side panel” is probably a good enough filter to catch all the modern teams. There’s always going to be a little bit of a fuzzy area.

    Off the top of my head, here’s what I’d use for the “modern” NFL teams.

    Broncos, Cardinals, Falcons, Vikings, Bills, Bengals and Jaguars.

    The Seahawks, Titans, Panthers and Patriots are all sorta borderline.

    I’d say the rest of the league at least leans towards the traditional side.

    The NCAA is definitely going to be a much larger list.[/quote]
    The Bills definitely have traditional pants stripes. Just because their unis look awful doesn’t mean the pants are nontraditional.

  • flip | November 5, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”358363″][quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970![/quote]

    Marquette had some innovative uniforms even before the untucked look

    http://a7.idata.over...
    http://a7.idata.over...

    http://media.photobu...

    http://cache4.asset-...

  • The Jeff | November 5, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”358387″][quote comment=”358384″][quote comment=”358377″]Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’d think “non-straight pant stripes, piping or a side panel” is probably a good enough filter to catch all the modern teams. There’s always going to be a little bit of a fuzzy area.

    Off the top of my head, here’s what I’d use for the “modern” NFL teams.

    Broncos, Cardinals, Falcons, Vikings, Bills, Bengals and Jaguars.

    The Seahawks, Titans, Panthers and Patriots are all sorta borderline.

    I’d say the rest of the league at least leans towards the traditional side.

    The NCAA is definitely going to be a much larger list.[/quote]
    The Bills definitely have traditional pants stripes. Just because their unis look awful doesn’t mean the pants are nontraditional.[/quote]

    I thought we were going full uniform? I counted the Bills for the red side panels and the piping/trim around the shoulder area.

  • flip | November 5, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”358363″][quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970![/quote]

    Marquette had some pretty sweet, radical unis, even before the untucked look.
    http://wiki.muscoop....

    http://i273.photobuc...

    http://cache2.asset-...

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”358389″][quote comment=”358387″][quote comment=”358384″][quote comment=”358377″]Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’d think “non-straight pant stripes, piping or a side panel” is probably a good enough filter to catch all the modern teams. There’s always going to be a little bit of a fuzzy area.

    Off the top of my head, here’s what I’d use for the “modern” NFL teams.

    Broncos, Cardinals, Falcons, Vikings, Bills, Bengals and Jaguars.

    The Seahawks, Titans, Panthers and Patriots are all sorta borderline.

    I’d say the rest of the league at least leans towards the traditional side.

    The NCAA is definitely going to be a much larger list.[/quote]
    The Bills definitely have traditional pants stripes. Just because their unis look awful doesn’t mean the pants are nontraditional.[/quote]

    I thought we were going full uniform? I counted the Bills for the red side panels and the piping/trim around the shoulder area.[/quote]
    I thought the piping/side panel/stripes had to be “non-straight” for inclusion.

    Whatever the case, there’s nothing borderline about the Panthers.

  • flip | November 5, 2009 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”358390″][quote comment=”358363″][quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970![/quote]

    Marquette had some pretty sweet, radical unis, even before the untucked look.
    http://wiki.muscoop....

    http://i273.photobuc...

    http://cache2.asset-...

    May have said this before, but for some inexplicable reason, I prefer traditional unis in baseball and football, but not necessarily for basketball. My fav NBA uni is this:
    http://images.amazon...

  • flip | November 5, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”358390″][quote comment=”358363″][quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970![/quote]

    Marquette had some pretty sweet, radical unis, even before the untucked look.
    http://wiki.muscoop....

    http://i273.photobuc...

    http://cache2.asset-...

    May have said this before, but I prefer traditional baseball and football uniforms, but for basketball, not necessarily so. My fav NBA uni:
    http://images.amazon...

  • Will | November 5, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    Paul – I’m sure you want to “take your mind off last night’s ballgame” but at least give the Yankees some props for taking care of your boys’ rival. We all know who Yankees fans would root for in a Mets-Red Sox WS.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    Nah, side panels could be straight.

    As I said, I don’t think there’d be too much arguing about who falls into which category. Pretty much instant accord in an “In or Out” flash card test.

    I mean, I suppose Michigan’s roads might be modern…but it’s really not a uni re-design, just a dumb idea for the trim on the roads.

    Of course if someone DID vote for their roads—as good or bad—I guess I’d let the vote stand. But they’d have to vote for the whole uni (“Michigan road”). Who wants to get into, “Well I hate Michigan’s road jerseys but like the rest.” Thumbs up or thumbs down. Or leave it off your list altogether.

    The results would be interesting, and the “gray-area” ones probably would be low vote getters and disappear on their own anyway, avoiding a bunch of nonsense arguments.

    See, I really don’t think this group is as traditionally “bound up” as some think we are. It’s just that when we lump everything together we lean one way. So let’s take the oldies off the table and point to the “newbies” we DO like.

    –Ricko

  • Flip | November 5, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”358390″][quote comment=”358363″][quote comment=”358337″][quote comment=”358324″]Oh. My. God! Wow…[/quote]

    One of my favorites: Dean “The Dream” in the bumblebee uniform Marquette wore when it won the NIT. I believe the Warriors dissed the NCAA that year to go to New York.[/quote]
    So, help me out here… they did only wear the striped ones for the NITs? I am seeing three different uni sets for 1970![/quote]

    Marquette had some pretty sweet, radical unis, even before the untucked look.
    http://wiki.muscoop....

    http://i273.photobuc...

    http://cache2.asset-...

    Posts are getting eaten. I might have said this before, but while I prefer the traditional look with baseball and football uniforms, that didn’t seem to hold true with basketball unis.

    My favorite NBA version: http://www.nba.com/m...

  • Dave | November 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”358279″]Can someone PLEEEAAASSSSEE make a “I’m still calling it St. James’ Park” shirt…white on black. Pretty please?[/quote]

    I think I might be able to help you. If you want that shirt, email me at dvines1111@gmail.com and I\’ll see if I can get you in contact with a guy who can make it.

  • Dave | November 5, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”358394″]Paul – I’m sure you want to “take your mind off last night’s ballgame” but at least give the Yankees some props for taking care of your boys’ rival. We all know who Yankees fans would root for in a Mets-Red Sox WS.[/quote]

    That is because Yankees fans have no where near as much incentive to hate the Mets as us Mets fans do to hate the Yankees.

    Exit disgruntled Mets fan.

  • Chris | November 5, 2009 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”358385″][quote comment=”358375″][quote comment=”358373″][quote comment=”358369″][quote comment=”358359″]I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I’ll probably have them until the day I die because they’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don’t get worn too often.[/quote]
    The real question is whether the Chucks made in China under Nike-owned Converse will have that kind of durability.[/quote]

    I’m sure they will… but the canvas will have a healthy dosage of lead paint.[/quote]
    Nah, I’ve had one pair less than a year and the trim is all barely hanging on. They aren’t going to fall apart per se, but the stuff that’s not actually holding them together comes off pretty easily.[/quote]
    Similar story here, I’ve worn them infrequently and the side piping is coming loose and the rubber on the sides is coming away from the sole.

  • Aaron | November 5, 2009 at 3:50 pm |

    OSU’s helmets are totally butt ugly: https://www.gridiron...

  • Tom | November 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”358391″][quote comment=”358389″][quote comment=”358387″][quote comment=”358384″][quote comment=”358377″]Of course, I like the Rams, too, and they have straight-striped or no-stripe pants so I guess they’re out. Likewise the Pats. Or Seahawks

    Or maybe add…”or have some kind of contrasting side panels on the jersey or wear monochrome dark on occasion”?

    Oh, hell with it, guess it’s a dumb idea. LOL

    Or maybe just let people offer nominations. I think we all have a pretty good idea of what’s “traditional” and what isn’t. My guess it that it would be self-sorting. Like the hat at Hogwarts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Here’s an interesting thought. What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=\\\”358399\\\”][quote comment=\\\”358385\\\”][quote comment=\\\”358375\\\”][quote comment=\\\”358373\\\”][quote comment=\\\”358369\\\”][quote comment=\\\”358359\\\”]I\\\’m pretty sure you\\\’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I\\\’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I\\\’ll probably have them until the day I die because they\\\’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don\\\’t get worn too often.[/quote]
    The real question is whether the Chucks made in China under Nike-owned Converse will have that kind of durability.[/quote]

    I\\\’m sure they will… but the canvas will have a healthy dosage of lead paint.[/quote]
    Nah, I\\\’ve had one pair less than a year and the trim is all barely hanging on. They aren\\\’t going to fall apart per se, but the stuff that\\\’s not actually holding them together comes off pretty easily.[/quote]
    Similar story here, I\\\’ve worn them infrequently and the side piping is coming loose and the rubber on the sides is coming away from the sole.[/quote]
    Don\\\’t get me wrong, I like the way it looks. It\\\’s still attached at the front and back, so it kind of bows out when I walk.
    http://i216.photobuc...

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”358399″][quote comment=”358385″][quote comment=”358375″][quote comment=”358373″][quote comment=”358369″][quote comment=”358359″]I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to keep wearing Chucks long after they fall apart.[/quote]
    I’ve actually still got a couple pairs that are over 20 years old and still serviceable. Barring a catastrophe of some sort, I’ll probably have them until the day I die because they’re hi-tops and I prefer the lows, so they don’t get worn too often.[/quote]
    The real question is whether the Chucks made in China under Nike-owned Converse will have that kind of durability.[/quote]

    I’m sure they will… but the canvas will have a healthy dosage of lead paint.[/quote]
    Nah, I’ve had one pair less than a year and the trim is all barely hanging on. They aren’t going to fall apart per se, but the stuff that’s not actually holding them together comes off pretty easily.[/quote]
    Similar story here, I’ve worn them infrequently and the side piping is coming loose and the rubber on the sides is coming away from the sole.[/quote]
    Don’t get me wrong, I like the way it looks. It’s still attached at the front and back so it kind of bows out when I walk.
    http://i216.photobuc...

    What’s going on with my posts today? Is anyone else having this kind of trouble?

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about

  • Tom | November 5, 2009 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”358404″][quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about[/quote]

    Likely sad but true. It’d be interesting to see how a team could go modern without going stupid.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”358404″][quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about[/quote]
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    Did anyone notice the sinister way Braylon is smiling in that photo? Like he knows what he’s wearing is woven from pure evil?

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 5, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”358372″][quote comment=”358286″][quote comment=”358254″]Just for completeness sake, there are two retired numbers for Marquette that aren’t shown – 38 in honor of 38-year trainer Bob Wiegand, and 11 in honor of the Apollo 11 moon flight – MU actually wore a large Apollo 11 patch on its warmups the year after the flight.[/quote]

    Oh… this is big (for us space weenies)! Why Marquette? Do you have a story link?[/quote]

    Here’s an item from SI 11-10-69:
    Apollo 11 astronauts are to be honored by Marquette Saturday when the university presents them with the school’s first P�re Marquette Discovery Award Medals—and three basketball warmup suits and jerseys. Marquette Captain Joe Thomas will give Buzz Aldrin, Mike Collins and Neil Armstrong jerseys bearing the No. 11. But the school will take them right back again, retire the number and hang the jerseys in the gymnasium. For the rest of the season Marquette basketball players will wear replicas of the Apollo 11 patch on their uniforms. As for the astronauts, they will wear those warmup suits, tailored from NASA’s measurements and especially designed for jogging.[/quote]
    Thanks – I have that one!

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”358405″][quote comment=”358404″][quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about[/quote]

    Likely sad but true. It’d be interesting to see how a team could go modern without going stupid.[/quote]

    the other way such a “modernification” could go would be something like this, which, aside from the obvious horridness of the all orange or all brown, does have some merit

    i wouldn’t want them to do something like this, but i see a movement towards it

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”358409″][quote comment=”358405″][quote comment=”358404″][quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about[/quote]

    Likely sad but true. It’d be interesting to see how a team could go modern without going stupid.[/quote]

    the other way such a “modernification” could go would be something like this, which, aside from the obvious horridness of the all orange or all brown, does have some merit

    i wouldn’t want them to do something like this, but i see a movement towards it[/quote]
    The top one isn’t half-bad as long as they leave it blank instead of using that stupid B-football logo.

  • JimV19 | November 5, 2009 at 4:36 pm |

    Off to my first Cleveland Cavs game in ten years. Can’t pass up free tickets, I guess. Last time I went, they were honoring the 30th anniversary all-time team. To include a then-current player they chose…Shawn Kemp. And they wonder why it’s taken so long for me to return…

    Anyone want to make an “I’d Rather Be At The Coliseum” shirt? I’d buy that.

  • Tom | November 5, 2009 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”358410″][quote comment=”358409″][quote comment=”358405″][quote comment=”358404″][quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about[/quote]

    Likely sad but true. It’d be interesting to see how a team could go modern without going stupid.[/quote]

    the other way such a “modernification” could go would be something like this, which, aside from the obvious horridness of the all orange or all brown, does have some merit

    i wouldn’t want them to do something like this, but i see a movement towards it[/quote]
    The top one isn’t half-bad as long as they leave it blank instead of using that stupid B-football logo.[/quote]

    What if you moved strips to the front of jersey? They tend to be screen printed so you can put them anywhere and you’d be able to keep the numbers on the sides. Like this

    http://www.nikeblog....

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”358308″]Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    that is a bobble in the works for pops who played football for them in the late 60’s

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”358409″][quote comment=”358405″][quote comment=”358404″][quote comment=”358401″]What would happen if traditional teams went modern? Of course the very thought of the Bears/Packers/Steelers going piping-crazy is horrifing. But lets say its one of those Meteor-Crashing-into-the-Earth thing and theres nothing that can stop it. What kind of look would work? Could the Bears be headed to something like this?

    http://farm4.static....

    nice pic of bronko

    amazing how little that uni has changed since the 30s

    but i think the “modernification” of the uni is something more akin to this browns mockup

    now THAT would be what we’re talking about[/quote]

    Likely sad but true. It’d be interesting to see how a team could go modern without going stupid.[/quote]

    the other way such a “modernification” could go would be something like this, which, aside from the obvious horridness of the all orange or all brown, does have some merit

    i wouldn’t want them to do something like this, but i see a movement towards it[/quote]

    If the Browns stuck to #1 and #4 (and I suppose #7 if they simply MUST have an Alt) it wouldn’t be all bad. No need to go to the “closet full of choices” mode, though. They you equipment becomes head of the costume department (see: Oregon). And no brown pants, please. I mean just look at that season they’d be associated with (meaning 2009).

    Actually the best example of an NFL team going “modern” without totally going nuts–or too far afield from they’d worn in the past and still being nicely new—might be the Rams. Or the Broncos, which I’ve already said I’d rate best of the newbies, but their change was far more substantial than the Rams.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”358413″][quote comment=”358308″]Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    that is a bobble in the works for pops who played football for them in the late 60’s[/quote]
    [quote comment=”358413″][quote comment=”358308″]Classic ’50s uni that shouldn’t have worked but somehow did.
    Maryland in…
    Black-gold-black on white pants and helmet.
    Red jersey with white numbers.

    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    that is a bobble in the works for pops who played football for them in the late 60’s[/quote]

    They have the gold full block “M” edged in black on the helmet, and maybe a black edge on the numbers in late ’60s…or did that come later? Don’t remember.

    (And, yes, I got my package. Thanks. Now to convert at least one of 7’s to a 5.)

    —Ricko

  • Pedro | November 5, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    My nomination for favorite “modern” football uni is Cal. For some reason they just look good to me, the stripes placement, the colors, and the different cobinations they worn work. My favorite is the yellow jersey w/ blue pants.

    I also have to second the nomination for WVU, they are similar to Cal’s and they are among the best looking modern uni out there.

    BTW, it doesn’t matter if you call the Bills “traditional” or “modern” because nobody around here is ever going to pick them as a FAVORITE. So let’s just call them what they are, UGLY.

  • glen | November 5, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    I don’t know if you all have seen these or not. Scroll down past the NFL calendars and there are a bunch of old college football programs for calendars

    http://www.squidoo.c...

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”358416″]My nomination for favorite “modern” football uni is Cal. For some reason they just look good to me, the stripes placement, the colors, and the different cobinations they worn work. My favorite is the yellow jersey w/ blue pants.

    I also have to second the nomination for WVU, they are similar to Cal’s and they are among the best looking modern uni out there.

    BTW, it doesn’t matter if you call the Bills “traditional” or “modern” because nobody around here is ever going to pick them as a FAVORITE. So let’s just call them what they are, UGLY.[/quote]

    Didn’t like Cal at first, but really have come around to them. Again, they stick with white socks, which really helps.

    Someone posted a photo of Boise State’s new unis.
    Okay, now, that would be the OTHER end of the spectrum, for sure. Butt stripes? Seriously? Somewhere at Nike some designers are stickering, “Can you believe they BOUGHT that crap! Damn, we could sell timeshares in Hoboken.”

    —Ricko

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]
    Shouldn’t a special uniform for Florida State come with a set of custom handcuffs?

    Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.

  • JohnnyO | November 5, 2009 at 6:50 pm |

    Don’t know if it has been mentioned, but the Bucs are gonna sport their throwback orange Bucco Bruce unis this week when they take on Green Bay! Whoah nelly! Can’t wait for it in high Def.

    http://www.packers.c...

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 7:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”358420″][quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]
    Shouldn’t a special uniform for Florida State come with a set of custom handcuffs?

    Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.[/quote]
    Compression sleeves with a feather design… Ricko, were you consulted?

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”358422″][quote comment=”358420″][quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]
    Shouldn’t a special uniform for Florida State come with a set of custom handcuffs?

    Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.[/quote]
    Compression sleeves with a feather design… Ricko, were you consulted?[/quote]
    Oh, and apparently mystery solved about half of the logo appearing on each glove. Although, I thought it was VA Tech that was doing that. I guess they’re not the only ones.

    Speaking of VA Tech, do they ever play on Saturdays anymore?

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]

    hey…isn’t that the same design the beavers will be sporting (in the civil war???)

    those pics come from paul’s nc2a season preview on the mothership a few months back

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”358424″][quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]

    hey…isn’t that the same design the beavers will be sporting (in the civil war???)

    those pics come from paul’s nc2a season preview on the mothership a few months back[/quote]

    and speaking of oregon state…why would you wear THAT DESIGN…when your nickname is…ya know

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2009 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”358420″][quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]
    Shouldn’t a special uniform for Florida State come with a set of custom handcuffs?

    Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.[/quote]

    Only if they were “purchased” at Dillards.

  • Greg B. | November 5, 2009 at 8:12 pm |

    Has anybody seen the mid-field logo at the East Carolina football game tonight (on ESPN right now)? It’s absolutely gorgeous!

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2009 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”358427″]Has anybody seen the mid-field logo at the East Carolina football game tonight (on ESPN right now)? It’s absolutely gorgeous![/quote]

    ECU had a GREAT t-shirt design last year that simple had the skull and crossbones on a black flag.

    Underneath the flag read “No Quarter”.

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2009 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”358428″][quote comment=”358427″]Has anybody seen the mid-field logo at the East Carolina football game tonight (on ESPN right now)? It’s absolutely gorgeous![/quote]

    ECU had a GREAT t-shirt design last year that simple had the skull and crossbones on a black flag.

    Underneath the flag read “No Quarter”.[/quote]

    Close:

    http://images.footba...

  • jc | November 5, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    ECU wearing the field design on the helmet as well, nice look

  • Bernard | November 5, 2009 at 8:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”358430″]ECU wearing the field design on the helmet as well, nice look[/quote]

    Agreed. I think it’s a huge upgrade from the ECU w/ sword logo.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”358428″][quote comment=”358427″]Has anybody seen the mid-field logo at the East Carolina football game tonight (on ESPN right now)? It’s absolutely gorgeous![/quote]

    ECU had a GREAT t-shirt design last year that simple had the skull and crossbones on a black flag.

    Underneath the flag read “No Quarter”.[/quote]
    It should be a red flag if it’s for ‘no quarter.’

  • Colin | November 5, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    whats the meaning behind “no quarter”? I actually came on here to talk about the logo. It almost looked like it was cut off on the top when i first saw it.

  • Greenie | November 5, 2009 at 9:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”358380″]just wanted to say that i love you guys work here at uniwatch. keep it up!

    Marc Colombo 75
    Dallas Cowboys
    Free Reign

    @MarcColombo
    MarcColombo.com[/quote]

    Since when did actual players follow us? I though the closest we got to the game was Ole Joe Skiba from NY? We should have more of this.

    -Greenie

    Please Phil, don’t try a modern Packers set, it doesn’t need to be seen.

  • LarenR | November 5, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    I’m watching the MLS playoff between Columbus and Salt Lake and have two observations.
    1. What the hell kind of pant is the Real Salt Lake keeper wearing? They look like some kind of culottes or cutoff warmups (sorry, I can’t get a screen grab and a quick Google search yields nothing but traditional black shorts).
    2. I have exactly zero rooting interest in this game, but I’ve found myself cheering for RSL simply because I can’t support a team wearing yellow from head to toe.

  • leon | November 5, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”358433″]whats the meaning behind “no quarter”? I actually came on here to talk about the logo. It almost looked like it was cut off on the top when i first saw it.[/quote]

    http://www.worldwide...

  • Not Al | November 5, 2009 at 10:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”358411″]Off to my first Cleveland Cavs game in ten years. Can’t pass up free tickets, I guess. Last time I went, they were honoring the 30th anniversary all-time team. To include a then-current player they chose…Shawn Kemp. And they wonder why it’s taken so long for me to return…

    Anyone want to make an “I’d Rather Be At The Coliseum” shirt? I’d buy that.[/quote]
    how about a ‘I’d rather cheer for Bingo Smith’ tshirt?? i’d wear one of those.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”358433″]whats the meaning behind “no quarter”? I actually came on here to talk about the logo. It almost looked like it was cut off on the top when i first saw it.[/quote]
    It basically means take no prisoners. Before the Geneva Convention, the rules of war said that if you flew a red flag before a battle, you were telling your opponent that they would be killed, even under an unconditional surrender.

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    kawhat?

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 10:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    Well, I’ve already got the stirrups. Why the hell not?

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”358441″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    Well, I’ve already got the stirrups. Why the hell not?[/quote]
    there is another uw guy on the team, his name is shaggy, posts here sometimes. his team was eliminated but he plyas in that flucking stats league i do. game three of the “world” series last night, flung bases and bats, threats, it was so much fun to work. the kicker was i got the call right. i hate those guys.

    what’s with all this “so and so said” shit?

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2009 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”358434″]Please Phil, don’t try a modern Packers set, it doesn’t need to be seen.[/quote]

    don’t worry andrew…not tonight anyway

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”358440″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    kawhat?[/quote]

    sorry joe, don’t know who you are, but i am captain random.

  • JTH | November 5, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”358427″]Has anybody seen the mid-field logo at the East Carolina football game tonight (on ESPN right now)? It’s absolutely gorgeous![/quote]
    Gorgeous? Really? I mean don’t get me wrong. I think it’s cute and all. But gorgeous? It looks like about 15 t-shirts and jammies my kids have.

    And why has nobody mentioned the MONOCHROME FUCKING PURPLE uniforms? (Actually, the color is off on this broadcast so they look more like indigo.) Honestly, if they had white or yellow pants, I’d like them.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”358444″][quote comment=”358440″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    kawhat?[/quote]

    sorry joe, don’t know who you are, but i am captain random.[/quote]
    That sounds like a challenge sirrah!

  • mike | November 5, 2009 at 11:08 pm |

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    there is why we have the nike logo on the baseball undershirts showing at the front…

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”358447″]http://shop.mlb.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3867449&cp=1452362.1452851

    there is why we have the nike logo on the baseball undershirts showing at the front…[/quote]
    What’s the point of putting the World Series logo on the chest of the undershirt? Whether or not you like it being there, at least the swoosh is visible when you’re wearing a jersey over the undershirt.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”358422″][quote comment=”358420″][quote comment=”358419″]Pictures of Florida State’s FB uniform for 11/21 vs. Maryland.[/quote]
    Shouldn’t a special uniform for Florida State come with a set of custom handcuffs?

    Thank you, thank you. I’ll be here all week.[/quote]
    Compression sleeves with a feather design… Ricko, were you consulted?[/quote]

    Nah, I figure no matter what, they’d just say, “We’ve been doing that kind of thing since we put spider webs on skiiers 15-20 years ago.”

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”358443″][quote comment=”358434″]Please Phil, don’t try a modern Packers set, it doesn’t need to be seen.[/quote]

    don’t worry andrew…not tonight anyway[/quote]

    Been done. Just look at the Edmonton Eskimos.

    —Ricko

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”358450″][quote comment=”358443″][quote comment=”358434″]Please Phil, don’t try a modern Packers set, it doesn’t need to be seen.[/quote]

    don’t worry andrew…not tonight anyway[/quote]

    Been done. Just look at the Edmonton Eskimos.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Aside from the monochrome look, I’d say those are fairly traditional. They’re certainly tame by CFL standards.
    http://slam.canoe.ca...

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]

    Jeez, if you played on weekends….

    —Ricko

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”358437″][quote comment=”358411″]Off to my first Cleveland Cavs game in ten years. Can’t pass up free tickets, I guess. Last time I went, they were honoring the 30th anniversary all-time team. To include a then-current player they chose…Shawn Kemp. And they wonder why it’s taken so long for me to return…

    Anyone want to make an “I’d Rather Be At The Coliseum” shirt? I’d buy that.[/quote]
    how about a ‘I’d rather cheer for Bingo Smith’ tshirt?? i’d wear one of those.[/quote]
    Can someone make a shirt telling Mike Brown to stop running that stupid twin towers set that just begs the other team to run fast breaks on the Cavs?

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 11:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”358446″][quote comment=”358444″][quote comment=”358440″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    kawhat?[/quote]

    sorry joe, don’t know who you are, but i am captain random.[/quote]
    That sounds like a challenge sirrah![/quote]

    sorry, didn’t mean anything, i was just saying i tend to be pretty random when i post that’s all, i am usually outside the discussion. as i have said in the past i am like the glue sniffing cousin at the family reunion who puts the bucket on his head and runs into walls.

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 11:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”358452″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]

    Jeez, if you played on weekends….

    —Ricko[/quote]
    got any benchies about teams playing in snow? one more rainout and the season goes into december!

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:41 pm |

    “i am like the glue sniffing cousin at the family reunion who puts the bucket on his head and runs into walls.”

    Before or after dinner?

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”358454″][quote comment=”358446″][quote comment=”358444″][quote comment=”358440″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    kawhat?[/quote]

    sorry joe, don’t know who you are, but i am captain random.[/quote]
    That sounds like a challenge sirrah![/quote]

    sorry, didn’t mean anything, i was just saying i tend to be pretty random when i post that’s all, i am usually outside the discussion. as i have said in the past i am like the glue sniffing cousin at the family reunion who puts the bucket on his head and runs into walls.[/quote]
    No need to apologize. You probably post here a lot more than I do; I’ve just been really active for the last two days. I would like to point out that I took a piece about MJ’s son and turned it into a discussion about the quality and value of sneakers.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”358456″]”i am like the glue sniffing cousin at the family reunion who puts the bucket on his head and runs into walls.”

    Before or after dinner?[/quote]
    Depends if dinner is served in the bucket or not.

  • Ricko | November 5, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”358455″][quote comment=”358452″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]

    Jeez, if you played on weekends….

    —Ricko[/quote]
    got any benchies about teams playing in snow? one more rainout and the season goes into december![/quote]

    There’s one. But it’s about early season issues.

  • Joe | November 5, 2009 at 11:46 pm |

    Man, I wish we could have rainouts here in C-Town. We had 1/4″ hail today and tomorrow’s high is like 42. I miss Houston.

  • rpm | November 5, 2009 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”358457″][quote comment=”358454″][quote comment=”358446″][quote comment=”358444″][quote comment=”358440″][quote comment=”358439″]peaches and cream! a 19~3 loss, 1~16 for the “summer” with 3 games left for the youppi softball team that plays in chicago. brrrrrrruuuuutal. made a nice dive to my right, spun backwards, and from my knees hit first base betwixt the numbers, and it was nice and easy. dropped. that pretty much sums up the youppi. jth, want to play next week on the worst softball team in the history of the world?[/quote]
    kawhat?[/quote]

    sorry joe, don’t know who you are, but i am captain random.[/quote]
    That sounds like a challenge sirrah![/quote]

    sorry, didn’t mean anything, i was just saying i tend to be pretty random when i post that’s all, i am usually outside the discussion. as i have said in the past i am like the glue sniffing cousin at the family reunion who puts the bucket on his head and runs into walls.[/quote]
    No need to apologize. You probably post here a lot more than I do; I’ve just been really active for the last two days. I would like to point out that I took a piece about MJ’s son and turned it into a discussion about the quality and value of sneakers.[/quote]

    understood. but no, i don’t post much of value.

    ricko~ i never sniff glue before 8pm. there was a study i read somewhere that said if you sniff glue after dark it is actually good for you. where did i read that?

    i am out of the loop. first, this so and so said shit, it’s confrazing when yer dumb. but more importantly, what is with this flodia state shit? when did this come out? it’s horrible, hate the # font, hate the black helmet, the feathers are okay, but the compression sleeves give us aaaaaaaaaaaawesome stripe possibilities

  • Joe | November 6, 2009 at 12:11 am |

    I know this is out of left field, but I also know that Paul enjoys new and exciting ways to cook meat, so here’s what I came up with for dinner tonight. I did a twice-cooked cube steak, in the same manner that you would cook sausage with onions.

    You brown the meat in a pan about twice as big as the meat itself. With sausage, you wouldn’t use any fat, but cube steak is leaner so I added some butter. Once the meat is cooked, you add 1/4 onion per serving, coarsely chopped, and sweat it out. When the onions are wilted and beginning to brown at the edges, add some deglazing liquid, reduce the heat to low, and cover for 15-20 minutes. I like to use Guinness, but dry sherry works too. When the liquid reduces most of the way down, cut the meat into bite-size chunks and put it back in the pan, tossing it at high heat until it’s coated.

    It’s great with kielbasa or bratwurst, but due to necessity I found out tonight that it’s even better with cube steak. Give it a try, Paul and let me know if it works for you.

  • Ricko | November 6, 2009 at 12:48 am |

    [quote comment=”358451″][quote comment=”358450″][quote comment=”358443″][quote comment=”358434″]Please Phil, don’t try a modern Packers set, it doesn’t need to be seen.[/quote]

    don’t worry andrew…not tonight anyway[/quote]

    Been done. Just look at the Edmonton Eskimos.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Aside from the monochrome look, I’d say those are fairly traditional. They’re certainly tame by CFL standards.
    http://slam.canoe.ca...

    And Packers going back to green pants afer a brief flirtation with them in the early ’50s would be pretty radical. For them, anyway.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | November 6, 2009 at 12:50 am |

    [quote comment=”358462″]I know this is out of left field, but I also know that Paul enjoys new and exciting ways to cook meat, so here’s what I came up with for dinner tonight. I did a twice-cooked cube steak, in the same manner that you would cook sausage with onions.

    You brown the meat in a pan about twice as big as the meat itself. With sausage, you wouldn’t use any fat, but cube steak is leaner so I added some butter. Once the meat is cooked, you add 1/4 onion per serving, coarsely chopped, and sweat it out. When the onions are wilted and beginning to brown at the edges, add some deglazing liquid, reduce the heat to low, and cover for 15-20 minutes. I like to use Guinness, but dry sherry works too. When the liquid reduces most of the way down, cut the meat into bite-size chunks and put it back in the pan, tossing it at high heat until it’s coated.

    It’s great with kielbasa or bratwurst, but due to necessity I found out tonight that it’s even better with cube steak. Give it a try, Paul and let me know if it works for you.[/quote]

    If only I liked onions…

    And if only I were hungry…

    That does sound good. Can I replace the onions with garlic or celery?

  • JTH | November 6, 2009 at 12:55 am |

    [quote comment=”358464″][quote comment=”358462″]I know this is out of left field, but I also know that Paul enjoys new and exciting ways to cook meat, so here’s what I came up with for dinner tonight. I did a twice-cooked cube steak, in the same manner that you would cook sausage with onions.

    You brown the meat in a pan about twice as big as the meat itself. With sausage, you wouldn’t use any fat, but cube steak is leaner so I added some butter. Once the meat is cooked, you add 1/4 onion per serving, coarsely chopped, and sweat it out. When the onions are wilted and beginning to brown at the edges, add some deglazing liquid, reduce the heat to low, and cover for 15-20 minutes. I like to use Guinness, but dry sherry works too. When the liquid reduces most of the way down, cut the meat into bite-size chunks and put it back in the pan, tossing it at high heat until it’s coated.

    It’s great with kielbasa or bratwurst, but due to necessity I found out tonight that it’s even better with cube steak. Give it a try, Paul and let me know if it works for you.[/quote]

    If only I liked onions…

    And if only I were hungry…

    That does sound good. Can I replace the onions with garlic or celery?[/quote]
    How do you feel about shallots? That might be a suitable alternative.

  • JimV19 | November 6, 2009 at 1:06 am |

    [quote comment=”358453″][quote comment=”358437″][quote comment=”358411″]Off to my first Cleveland Cavs game in ten years. Can’t pass up free tickets, I guess. Last time I went, they were honoring the 30th anniversary all-time team. To include a then-current player they chose…Shawn Kemp. And they wonder why it’s taken so long for me to return…

    Anyone want to make an “I’d Rather Be At The Coliseum” shirt? I’d buy that.[/quote]
    how about a ‘I’d rather cheer for Bingo Smith’ tshirt?? i’d wear one of those.[/quote]
    Can someone make a shirt telling Mike Brown to stop running that stupid twin towers set that just begs the other team to run fast breaks on the Cavs?[/quote]

    I’d rather cheer for Campy Russell, but the Bingo Smith shirt does sound good.

    Yeah, I thought the Twin Towers set would be cool, but neither big man did much tonight. Between that and missed free throws, that killed the Cavs.

    By the way, I kind of enjoyed the outing. The game was good, although I think the level of play isn’t as good as it was in the 80s. The guys seem too big and bulky now. The constant keep-the-ADHD-kids-happy sideshows didn’t bother me as much as I thought they would. Guess I was in a good mood.

  • JimV19 | November 6, 2009 at 1:07 am |

    [quote comment=”358465″][quote comment=”358464″][quote comment=”358462″]I know this is out of left field, but I also know that Paul enjoys new and exciting ways to cook meat, so here’s what I came up with for dinner tonight. I did a twice-cooked cube steak, in the same manner that you would cook sausage with onions.

    You brown the meat in a pan about twice as big as the meat itself. With sausage, you wouldn’t use any fat, but cube steak is leaner so I added some butter. Once the meat is cooked, you add 1/4 onion per serving, coarsely chopped, and sweat it out. When the onions are wilted and beginning to brown at the edges, add some deglazing liquid, reduce the heat to low, and cover for 15-20 minutes. I like to use Guinness, but dry sherry works too. When the liquid reduces most of the way down, cut the meat into bite-size chunks and put it back in the pan, tossing it at high heat until it’s coated.

    It’s great with kielbasa or bratwurst, but due to necessity I found out tonight that it’s even better with cube steak. Give it a try, Paul and let me know if it works for you.[/quote]

    If only I liked onions…

    And if only I were hungry…

    That does sound good. Can I replace the onions with garlic or celery?[/quote]
    How do you feel about shallots? That might be a suitable alternative.[/quote]

    That’s a possibility. Regular onions are up there with peppers and pineapple as fruits of the devil for me. Although onion flavoring isn’t bad, just the onions themselves.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 6, 2009 at 3:59 am |

    How can you hate pineapple? What is wrong with you?

  • Joe | November 6, 2009 at 7:36 am |

    [quote comment=”358467″][quote comment=”358465″][quote comment=”358464″][quote comment=”358462″]I know this is out of left field, but I also know that Paul enjoys new and exciting ways to cook meat, so here’s what I came up with for dinner tonight. I did a twice-cooked cube steak, in the same manner that you would cook sausage with onions.

    You brown the meat in a pan about twice as big as the meat itself. With sausage, you wouldn’t use any fat, but cube steak is leaner so I added some butter. Once the meat is cooked, you add 1/4 onion per serving, coarsely chopped, and sweat it out. When the onions are wilted and beginning to brown at the edges, add some deglazing liquid, reduce the heat to low, and cover for 15-20 minutes. I like to use Guinness, but dry sherry works too. When the liquid reduces most of the way down, cut the meat into bite-size chunks and put it back in the pan, tossing it at high heat until it’s coated.

    It’s great with kielbasa or bratwurst, but due to necessity I found out tonight that it’s even better with cube steak. Give it a try, Paul and let me know if it works for you.[/quote]

    If only I liked onions…

    And if only I were hungry…

    That does sound good. Can I replace the onions with garlic or celery?[/quote]
    How do you feel about shallots? That might be a suitable alternative.[/quote]

    That’s a possibility. Regular onions are up there with peppers and pineapple as fruits of the devil for me. Although onion flavoring isn’t bad, just the onions themselves.[/quote]
    It also works with mushrooms or peppers. You could try leeks too, since they’re milder than onions. I remember Alton Brown saying in one episode that you could replace onions with leeks in just about any application.

  • JimV19 | November 6, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”358469″]How can you hate pineapple? What is wrong with you?[/quote]

    You want the whole list or just the top ten?

    Never liked pineapple. Tastes like when they used to sell canned orange juice, or when good oranges go bad.

  • JimV19 | November 6, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”358471″][quote comment=”358467″][quote comment=”358465″][quote comment=”358464″][quote comment=”358462″]I know this is out of left field, but I also know that Paul enjoys new and exciting ways to cook meat, so here’s what I came up with for dinner tonight. I did a twice-cooked cube steak, in the same manner that you would cook sausage with onions.

    You brown the meat in a pan about twice as big as the meat itself. With sausage, you wouldn’t use any fat, but cube steak is leaner so I added some butter. Once the meat is cooked, you add 1/4 onion per serving, coarsely chopped, and sweat it out. When the onions are wilted and beginning to brown at the edges, add some deglazing liquid, reduce the heat to low, and cover for 15-20 minutes. I like to use Guinness, but dry sherry works too. When the liquid reduces most of the way down, cut the meat into bite-size chunks and put it back in the pan, tossing it at high heat until it’s coated.

    It’s great with kielbasa or bratwurst, but due to necessity I found out tonight that it’s even better with cube steak. Give it a try, Paul and let me know if it works for you.[/quote]

    If only I liked onions…

    And if only I were hungry…

    That does sound good. Can I replace the onions with garlic or celery?[/quote]
    How do you feel about shallots? That might be a suitable alternative.[/quote]

    That’s a possibility. Regular onions are up there with peppers and pineapple as fruits of the devil for me. Although onion flavoring isn’t bad, just the onions themselves.[/quote]
    It also works with mushrooms or peppers. You could try leeks too, since they’re milder than onions. I remember Alton Brown saying in one episode that you could replace onions with leeks in just about any application.[/quote]

    Alton is a genius. I may try it with mushrooms and leeks, then.