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The Ricko Files, Vol. 9

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Who’s that shaking hands with Billy Martin? It’s our own Ricko, wearing a stylish corduroy norfolk jacket and some serious sideburns. After he sent me this shot, I wrote back, “I need to know everything — EVERYTHING — about this photo. Details, please!” Here’s what he wrote back:

Would have been late 1970, I think. Martin had been named manager of the Tigers and would therefore be leaving Minnesota (where he had managed the Twins). I was working at a chain of suburban newspapers that hosted regular meetings for the public called the “Suburban Sportsman Club,” where they’d have meet-and-greet sessions with guests from the Twins, Vikes, etc.

I did a painting (in what I’d call my sort of “watercolor semi-cartoon portrait” style) of Martin in a Tigers hat, surrounded by him in all the uniforms he’d worn as a player. Clockwise from top right: Yankees, KC A’s, Tigers, Indians, Redlegs, Braves, Twins.

Photo was taken that night as the painting was presented to him. It’s the only copy I have of the painting. Looked better in color when you could see all the unis.

And now you know how my archive got started, and why I kept building it. Even back then, all the photos I used for that painting came from my files, or from mags I had on hand (which later ended up dismembered and in the file folders).

That Ricko — is he totally the man or what? Here’s the latest batch of scans from his archives:

• Excellent view here of the Broncos’ 1960s orange uni design.

• Remember my recent post about the Steelers’ “golden triangle” uniform? Some good action shots of that design here and here (also note the Saint wearing No. 0).

• Speaking of the Steelers, check out the font on the helmet logo. Surprisingly dainty and non-macho in those days, no?

• Here’s a shocker that Ricko posted in the comments a few days ago: Back in the 1980s, the Colts wore mesh pants. Never seen that before.

• Look at these Knicks uniforms — amazing! That’s Wilt Chamberlain towering above the other players, natch, and here’s another Wilt-vs.-Knicks shot. Interesting side panels for the Knicks, and very odd that the Warriors put a gold waistband on that design.

• I’ve written before about the Utah Stars, but it’s always good to see more of their excellent socks and rear uni numbers. Note the American flag on the shorts, too!

• Never a dull moment at Marquette. Never seen that design before. Also never seen this Notre Dame design.

Vertically striped socks alert! That’s Austin Peay, circa early-’70s.

Excessively striped socks alert! Those are the Carolina Cougars in their original burgundy and Carolina blue (a nod to UNC and NC State). They later switched to royal and lime.

• I’m just gonna sit back and let this one speak for itself.

• Great shot here of the Sonics’ original uniforms, which featured one of history’s oddest shorts designs.

• Fascinating stripes being worn by Dartmouth, circa 1962. Love how the yoke and sleeve stripes mimic each other, but shouldn’t this same pattern have been repeated on the pants and/or socks?

• Some things that look strange by today’s standards: Iowa in black pants (from 1971); Penn State wearing royal jerseys, pants stripes, and helmet numbers (1968); and Oregon not looking like total shit (1971).

That’s enough for this installment. More Rickosity coming soon.

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January Party Update: The next Uni Watch shindig will take place in Brooklyn on the afternoon of Saturday, January 24th, and I’m very happy to announce that we’ll have a special guest: Jerry Dior, the man who designed the MLB logo. Jerry is one of the nicest, most gracious people I’ve ever interviewed, and I’ve been eager to meet him since writing about him two months ago, so I’m really pleased that he’s accepted my invitation to join our gathering.

I’m still hammering out the details regarding the venue, but I should have that settled in about a week. Stay tuned.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Very cool diagrams of Luis Castillo’s batting gloves here and here (okay, so it’s Castillo, but it’s still pretty nifty). … Three good finds by Andy Chalifour: Mike Fitzgerald in a brimless catcher’s helmet, Paul Gibson with FIOB (odd, since he and Kirk Gibson never played together on the Tigers), and Trevor Wilson wearing an interesting division championship cap. … Jack Krabbe notes that Ed Reed was wearing a Miami armband on Sunday (I believe he’s done this before, right?), and also has his uni number printed on the inside of his helmet shell. … This eBay seller has some really amazing (if really pricey) stuff. I’m particularly fond of this UGA jersey and this astonishingly gorgeous Oregon jersey. Someone please buy this for me, like, yesterday (great finds by Jared Wheeler). … I showed that Oregon jersey link to Jeremy Brahm, because he lives in Portland. He’s not so sure the Ducks ever actually wore that design, but he came upon some interesting tidbits while hunting through the Oregon photo archives for confirmation, including this shot (what’s with the guy wearing the bib?) and this one (looks like the opposing team painted the upper portion of their facemasks to match their helmets, creating a two-tone mask effect). … And that got Jeremy thinking about Oregon State, so he started looking through their photo archives too. Among his finds: the football team using the now-banned pyramid formation to block a kick; a spectacular shot of the school’s 1914 baseball team; an odd jersey design for the 1943 baseball team (why not spell it out across the chest?); and the 1908 Civil War program! … Yesterday I linked to some photos of Alabama’s houndstooth-patterened gloves from the Sugar Bowl. But what I didn’t show was that the gloves also had the same pattern on the palm (with thanks to Noel Foley). … Major douchebaggery find by Brett Crane, who noticed that D-League players wearing non-Adidas footwear had their sneaker logos covered up by tape. … The designer who created the United Nations logo has died (with thanks to Matt Hackethal). … What do you call your factory team if your factory is in Cooleemee, North Carolina? The Cooleemee Cools. That’s Jeff Spry‘s father, who was the team’s manager, sitting in the front row in the dark jacket, circa 1951. Jeff’s father was also the scorekeeper for the local baseball team (middle row, far left). … Anyone know why Terelle Pryor had an “88” decal (or maybe it was “68”) on his helmet last night? (Thanks to Phil for the screen grab.) … Also from Phil: The new TSA uniforms are causing problems (further info here), and the controversy regarding the Hockey Canada logo and the Olympics is ongoing. … Matt Campbell recently visited an Ann Arbor shop called College Shoe Repair, which used to do all the major equipment work for the Wolverines’ hockey team. They had some good stuff up on the walls, which Matt documented here. … Two oddities from last night’s Fiesta Bowl: Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard, and Jim Tressel was wearing an American flag pin in an unusual spot (screen grabs courtesy of Tim Burke). … Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown, he’s a clown, that Charlie Brown. Actually, that’s Chykie Brown of the Longhorns, but it’s still an unusual NOB (with thanks to Doug Keklak). … Nice photo essay on Navy uniforms here (with thanks to Alan Borock).

 

153 comments to The Ricko Files, Vol. 9

  • lukejameslarson | January 6, 2009 at 8:24 am |

    the paul gibson picture is probably from spring training… maybe in 1987, before gibby left?

  • Harv Antle | January 6, 2009 at 8:25 am |

    Great stuff today. Ricko, do you know where the painting is now?

  • Stuby | January 6, 2009 at 8:27 am |

    Not sure why the guy on the Texas sideline has the Iowa clipboard, but he is just wearing a Fiesta Bowl sweatshirt with both teams on it. You can see the Longhorn logo under the ‘YES’ in BUCKEYES.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    Texas had custom gloves last night as well:

    Check out the bottom of the velcro strap:

    http://cache1.asset-...

    http://cache3.asset-...

    http://cache4.asset-...

    http://cache3.asset-...

    Nothing for TOSU:

    http://cache4.asset-...

    BTW…I have no love for TOSU but I cannot deny that Laurinitis is one hell of a football player. He is making the tackle, asssiting, or on a pursuit route towards the tackle on EVERY play!

    Rant over!

    Cool paint job:

    http://cache2.asset-...

  • ToasterPoodle | January 6, 2009 at 8:38 am |

    Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 2:

    Speed vs, Speed:

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    My apologies…Ricko, you are a Uni-guru! Nice work to you and Paul!

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”308960″]Great stuff today. Ricko, do you know where the painting is now?[/quote]

    No idea. How many wives did Martin after 1970? Maybe one of them…

  • Cosmo | January 6, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    [quote comment=”308963″]Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.[/quote]

    If I had to guess I’d say that “IOWA” is a call (or a dummy call) the Longhorns use. That guy probably holds the clipboard up at times.

  • Jeff G. | January 6, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    Hello Uni Watch readers, not a comment on the post but a request here. I’m a freelance journalist hoping to write an article examining that strange artistic phase that the NBA went through in the mid-90s, probably best embodied in the Houston Rockets court design at the time – cloud plume on the baseline, area outside the paint completely filled with blue and dotted with stars – some of you know what I’m talking about.

    Anyway, I’m wondering of any of you know where I could find a good, no-nonsense overhead picture of that court? I’m also pretty sure that the Charlotte Hornets had something similarly detailed and colorful; that would work too. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    -Jeff

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 8:47 am |

    not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    [quote comment=”308966″][quote comment=”308963″]Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.[/quote]

    If I had to guess I’d say that “IOWA” is a call (or a dummy call) the Longhorns use. That guy probably holds the clipboard up at times.[/quote]

    His credential pass looks more like a press pass.

    If he were really a Texas coach making dummy calls, he would most definitely be wearing Texas gear.

  • Ross H | January 6, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    Regarding Tressel’s flag pin, I don’t have any pics, but I’m pretty sure he always wears it there.

  • pr9000 | January 6, 2009 at 8:56 am |

    That lettering on Bradshaw’s helmet sure looks hand drawn to me … I can’t find photographic evidence of it — yet — but I’d say that’s an anomaly, not the official font for the Steelers logo.

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 8:56 am |

    [quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    I scored the whole set at Half-Price Books on VHS about three years ago for $13, I think it was (I mention that cuz is a great place to look for such things, especially VHS, usually dirt cheap thesedays). Marvelous. Have watched it all at least twice. Anyone with any sense of history regarding baseball will love it.

    —Ricko

  • Jason Gomez | January 6, 2009 at 8:58 am |

    I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?

  • Mark K | January 6, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    “The only thing more boring than baseball is Ken Burns baseball”

  • DrBear | January 6, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    The Marquette unis were the infamous “bumblebee” unis – Dean The Dream Meminger wore these when MU walked out of the NCAA tournament in 1971 because it didn’t like where it had been assigned, and went on to win the NIT. Imagine a team doing that these days.

    MU’s home unis were almost as cool, with a big black dot on the front with the number inside, racing stripes on a gold panel on one side overlapping the chest, and a circular MU on the opposite shorts leg the only team identifier. Marquette is a Uni Hall of Fame all by itself.

  • fluxcap | January 6, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    [quote comment=”308965″][quote comment=”308960″]Great stuff today. Ricko, do you know where the painting is now?[/quote]

    No idea. How many wives did Martin after 1970? Maybe one of them…[/quote]

    Freudian slip?

  • Flip | January 6, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    Marquette won the NIT back when it meant something wearing that uniform. I’ve been searching the Web for some time looking for it. Thanks. (And that picture of Fly Williams was just sweet.)

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]

    No, that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)

    He too is an AWESOME football player constantly in the right place at the right time.

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 3 and final installment:

    Check out this gallery from the UT website:

    http://www.texasspor...

    Pics # 17, 19, 30, 36, 37, and 42 are of note.

    17 in particular because a UT D-Lineman is wearing black tights? In Arizona?

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    http://boundless.uor...

    Back then, those bibs were wore if an eligible receiver played an ineligible postion…unsually on punts. Probably was a tight end playing tackle for the punt.

    —Ricko

  • Rick MD | January 6, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    I didn’t think Reed wore those during the game, but I went back and looked at photos of the game and saw him with them. He turned the “U” logo around to face the inside of his arm so it would be not as obvious. I’m sure the NFL fashion police will find out and give him a nice fine. Check out pic #15.
    http://www.baltimore...

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”308976″][quote comment=”308965″][quote comment=”308960″]Great stuff today. Ricko, do you know where the painting is now?[/quote]

    No idea. How many wives did Martin after 1970? Maybe one of them…[/quote]

    Freudian slip?[/quote]

    Might be more accurate than what I intended to write, though probably not with regard to where the painting might be. LOL.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”308975″]The Marquette unis were the infamous “bumblebee” unis – Dean The Dream Meminger wore these when MU walked out of the NCAA tournament in 1971 because it didn’t like where it had been assigned, and went on to win the NIT. Imagine a team doing that these days.

    MU’s home unis were almost as cool, with a big black dot on the front with the number inside, racing stripes on a gold panel on one side overlapping the chest, and a circular MU on the opposite shorts leg the only team identifier. Marquette is a Uni Hall of Fame all by itself.[/quote]

    This one…?
    http://vault.sportsi...

  • Beardface | January 6, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”308969″][quote comment=”308966″][quote comment=”308963″]Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.[/quote]

    If I had to guess I’d say that “IOWA” is a call (or a dummy call) the Longhorns use. That guy probably holds the clipboard up at times.[/quote]

    His credential pass looks more like a press pass.

    If he were really a Texas coach making dummy calls, he would most definitely be wearing Texas gear.[/quote]
    Not necessarily…

    Many times coaches like to wear colors that would make them distinct on the sidelines so the players can easily see the coach they’re looking for. His shirt has ‘Texas Longhorns’ on it, but it was the only one the players would be looking at with any kind of red. If thats the case, it was smart.

  • nididakes | January 6, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    yo! that’s my high school in the hockey store slideshow. i actually just asked my mom a few days ago to send an old basketball jersey that was in my closet. i’d snap a picture but there’s nothing much uni-remarkable about it, plus it’s purple.

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    [quote]that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)[/quote]

    former student, matt? ;)

  • nocalal | January 6, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    The bibs were used by the punting/punt return teams of that time so players w/ numbers that didn’t conform to the position could be eligible. (Eligibility standards for position numbers were much stricter around 1966). I remember UCLA utilizing snap-on numbers for this purpose.

    MLB Channel is sweet; I got to watch the Phillies win the World Series all over again. My one complaint with the Ken Burns’ series is I was surprised–nay, shocked–to discover they played baseball outside New York and Boston.

  • Kim | January 6, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”308959″]the paul gibson picture is probably from spring training… maybe in 1987, before gibby left?[/quote]

    Except that’s a Topps baseball card from 1980. The first year that my hometown’s everything store was within my allowed bike range. I spent a lot of quarters on baseball cards that summer. Even seeing this picture brought back the memory of baseball card gum smell.

    Though it is a typical spring training picture.

  • u2-horn | January 6, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”308978″]

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?[/quote]

    Looks like it just says TEXAS.

    How about the OSU kicker’s facemask last night? That was a new one for me.

  • Kim | January 6, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”308987″][quote comment=”308959″]the paul gibson picture is probably from spring training… maybe in 1987, before gibby left?[/quote]

    Except that’s a Topps baseball card from 1980. The first year that my hometown’s everything store was within my allowed bike range. I spent a lot of quarters on baseball cards that summer. Even seeing this picture brought back the memory of baseball card gum smell.

    Though it is a typical spring training picture.[/quote]

    D’oh! Spoke before my coffee kicked in. That’s not an ’80. It’s a 1989…..which means that it could be a stock photo from when Kirk was with the club (as Topps used to sit on photos for ages)

  • u2-horn | January 6, 2009 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”308988″]

    Looks like it just says TEXAS.
    [/quote]

    Oops, you meant the graphic on the palm. No idea.

  • seven | January 6, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    The Austin Peay students had a great cheer for Fly Williams: ‘Fly’s open, Let’s go Peay’

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    I seem to remember the Knicks wearing Retro unis similar to these ones pictured in the ticker:

    http://farm4.static....

    http://espn.go.com/m...

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Nonetheless, I found an interesting history of the knicks uniforms here:

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    Is it me, or do the painted facemasks of Oregon\’s opponent ironically resemble beaks?

    http://boundless.uor...

  • eric | January 6, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    I’m not sure if this was mentioned yet, but just in case–Check out this crap.
    http://brooklynmetfa...

  • u2-horn | January 6, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    I guess the OSU kicker (Aaron Pettrey) has worn that mask for awhile

    http://cache.daylife...

  • Steve Naismith | January 6, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Thanks, Sherlock.

  • Jason Gomez | January 6, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”308995″][quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]
    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Thanks, Sherlock.[/quote]

    what the hell with the sarcasm? jerk

  • Jon | January 6, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    Excuse this if we have discussed this before…

    Last night I was explaining “Gretzky’s Office” to my fiance’, and was looking for pics of when the NHL put a 99 on the ice in every arena for the season. Which started my pickled brain to thinking… Has there ever been a uniform adjustment/modification/alteration to honor a player in their last year before retirement? Obviously, I’m not talking about the numerous “Memorials” we see after a death, or when a retired player’s number is likewise retired…

    Thanks

  • Stu | January 6, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    In that picture for the Alabama glove palm design, you can see the Utah kicker trying to tackle him is wearing at least 1 Adidas shoe even though Utah is an Under Armour school. I’m not surprised he would want a more traditional soccer shoe but I am surprised the UA campus rep for Bama didn’t request he black out the striped

  • Rick | January 6, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    In the first Ricko picture of the Broncos, there is the same issue as yesterday with in old Giants photos…striping on the pants is different on #83.

  • Jeremy Brahm | January 6, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Jeff G.

    Here is one shot of the Summit Floor
    http://www.hollywood...

    Since some of the stuff is pre internet, you may have difficulty in finding these shots.
    The Phoenix Suns were the first to use a different design when they changed their logo in their move the America West Arena.
    The Sonics and Spurs come to mind as well.

  • Shane | January 6, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    I’d watch this (even though I own it on VHS), but Time Warner is a piece of shit and the MLB Network doesn’t have sound for me.

  • Anthony | January 6, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    RE: Seattle Super Sonics Shorts
    That stripe was a popular design in the 1960’s California surfing culture as seen in these vintage Gregg Noll ads. (scroll down to bottom of page). As you can see, horizontal stripes across surf trunks was pretty normal. It looks as though the Sonics picked up on that design aesthetic…

    http://www.vintagegr...

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”309002″]RE: Seattle Super Sonics Shorts
    That stripe was a popular design in the 1960’s California surfing culture as seen in these vintage Gregg Noll ads. (scroll down to bottom of page). As you can see, horizontal stripes across surf trunks was pretty normal. It looks as though the Sonics picked up on that design aesthetic…

    http://www.vintagegr...

    Good catch! I would have never thought of those worlds intersecting.

    Regarding this pic:

    http://www.vintagegr...

    1. Why are the two fellas wearing jackets AND shorts?

    2. The young lady is gorgeous. It’s amazing how no matter styles change over the years, relative good looks never change, like the Giants!:)

  • Matt Campbell | January 6, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    Sorry for the crappy quality on the College Shoe Repair photos, all I had on me was my Blackberry. If you want to see pics of my girl and my trip to the Football HOF on the way home from Ann Arbor, you can check it here: http://www.flickr.co...

  • Doug | January 6, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    about the Alabama specially made gloves by Nike…….I have heard that the only schools Nike did this for were Alabama,USC,Texas and either Florida or Oklahoma(not both just one of them)

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”308999″]In the first Ricko picture of the Broncos, there is the same issue as yesterday with in old Giants photos…striping on the pants is different on #83.[/quote]

    Hadn’t noticed that. Those are, I’d bet, the pants from the previous Bronco set, the first orange jerseys with no blue, just an orange version of the 49ers. The pants stripes with that uni were thinner.

    —Ricko

  • Al Gruwell | January 6, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    Dammit, Nocalal; thought I could be the first to set Paulie straight re: the “bibs.”
    We called them “dickeys” and I wore one as our long snapper on the punt team. I was normally a tight end/wingback so number 44 was definitely a no-no as a center. It was elastic at the bottom and we had to have somebody on the punt team run it in from the sideline so I could “change numbers” in the huddle.

  • lukejameslarson | January 6, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”308989″][quote comment=”308987″][quote comment=”308959″]the paul gibson picture is probably from spring training… maybe in 1987, before gibby left?[/quote]

    Except that’s a Topps baseball card from 1980. The first year that my hometown’s everything store was within my allowed bike range. I spent a lot of quarters on baseball cards that summer. Even seeing this picture brought back the memory of baseball card gum smell.

    Though it is a typical spring training picture.[/quote]

    D’oh! Spoke before my coffee kicked in. That’s not an ’80. It’s a 1989…..which means that it could be a stock photo from when Kirk was with the club (as Topps used to sit on photos for ages)[/quote]

    that’s what i’m saying. i know the card is from ’89. paul gibson wasn’t up with the big club in 1987, and kirk was gone after 1987. logically, (and given the background in the photo) it was most likely during spring training in 1987, when paul would likely have been there as a prospect.

  • Perry | January 6, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”308972″][quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    I scored the whole set at Half-Price Books on VHS about three years ago for $13, I think it was (I mention that cuz is a great place to look for such things, especially VHS, usually dirt cheap thesedays). Marvelous. Have watched it all at least twice. Anyone with any sense of history regarding baseball will love it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Agreed. I taped it off the air when it first appeared, and I still watch those tapes a fair bit during long, baseball-free winters.

    The MLB channel looks promising. I watched Larsen’s perfect game re-broadcast on the 1st. If you get DirecTV, it’s channel 213.

  • Perry | January 6, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”308982″][quote comment=”308975″]The Marquette unis were the infamous “bumblebee” unis – Dean The Dream Meminger wore these when MU walked out of the NCAA tournament in 1971 because it didn’t like where it had been assigned, and went on to win the NIT. Imagine a team doing that these days.

    MU’s home unis were almost as cool, with a big black dot on the front with the number inside, racing stripes on a gold panel on one side overlapping the chest, and a circular MU on the opposite shorts leg the only team identifier. Marquette is a Uni Hall of Fame all by itself.[/quote]

    This one…?
    http://vault.sportsi...

    Isn’t the caption a bit of PC revisionist history? Pretty sure they were still the Warriors then.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”309005″]about the Alabama specially made gloves by Nike…….I have heard that the only schools Nike did this for were Alabama,USC,Texas and either Florida or Oklahoma(not both just one of them)[/quote]

    Oklahoma’s were in the comments section yesterday.

    http://www.soonerspo...

    Pics #2, 15, 20, 22, and 28

    I have scoured picc of Florida’s practices and I have seen no evidence of customized gloves.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

    However, I have found more of Florida’s new cleats, second guy in:

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

  • Harv Antle | January 6, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    Anybody know if MLB channel is headed for DishNetwork anytime soon?

  • Beardface | January 6, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”308975″]The Marquette unis were the infamous “bumblebee” unis – Dean The Dream Meminger wore these when MU walked out of the NCAA tournament in 1971 because it didn’t like where it had been assigned, and went on to win the NIT. Imagine a team doing that these days.
    [/quote]
    Well, for starters, the NCAA doesn’t forbids a school from turning down a tournament invite, so I would say you probably shouldn’t think too hard about that going forward.

    Which is interesting to think about, because the NIT would have no doubt become the more successful tournament of the two had the NCAA not created those bylaws. And even more interesting to think about considering how adament the NCAA is to NOT enforcing a playoff in D-1A football.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    Tulsa is palying in the GMAC Bowl this evening against Ball State. I’m sure that it’s been mentioned before, but I have never noticed the hurricane warning flags on their pants.

    http://grfx.cstv.com...

    They definitely have busy jerseys!

  • Kek | January 6, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]
    Already got my DVR set (although I couldn’t do a “record all” because the Comcast on screen guide STILL has “No Data Available” so I had to do a manual recording. any other comcast/former adelphia folks having this problem?).

    I’m excited to see the series again. I was a college freshmen when it aired originally and I must say I don’t think I appreciated it as much then as I will now. I’m also looking forward to checking it out from a uni-perspective too.

    I saw Burns speak at Pitt last year, really neat talk, mostly geared about his most recent series (The War) but he spoke about Baseball too.

  • DrBear | January 6, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=\”309010\”][quote comment=\”308982\”][quote comment=\”308975\”]The Marquette unis were the infamous \”bumblebee\” unis – Dean The Dream Meminger wore these when MU walked out of the NCAA tournament in 1971 because it didn\’t like where it had been assigned, and went on to win the NIT. Imagine a team doing that these days.

    MU\’s home unis were almost as cool, with a big black dot on the front with the number inside, racing stripes on a gold panel on one side overlapping the chest, and a circular MU on the opposite shorts leg the only team identifier. Marquette is a Uni Hall of Fame all by itself.[/quote]

    This one…?
    http://vault.sportsi...

    Isn\’t the caption a bit of PC revisionist history? Pretty sure they were still the Warriors then.[/quote]

    Ricko: Right on.

    And the caption on the SI page was probably written by some intern who was probably surprised to learn that Marquette had a team before Dwayne Wade. They definitely were the Warriors through the (Al) McGuire era.

  • Frank | January 6, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”309014″]I have never noticed the hurricane warning flags on their pants.

    http://grfx.cstv.com...

    interesting in that they have that, and not a storm warning…like a certain hockey team ;)

    we had discussed the hurricane last year (might have been during a bryan entry) and at the time i wondered why a city in a landlocked state would take such an apparent misnomer…

    turns out that before being named the golden hurricane waaaaaaaay in 1922, tulsa had many team nicknames (including kendallites, presbyterians, tigers, orange, black, and tulsans)…originally, the name golden tornadoes (which makes a LOT more sense) was decided, but it was quickly found out that name was taken by GT…which has obviously since dropped that nickname…but golden hurricane stuck

  • Randy Miller | January 6, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    The number bibs (or even tearaway jerseys) could also be used for strategy purposes. In the old SWC, Houston sent out a No. 64 with its “hands” team in an onside kick situation. Texas Tech kicked it directly to him and he summarily snagged it. An ensuing camera shot showed freshman RB John Newhouse removing the 64.

  • Matt from L.A. | January 6, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    The more I look at the photo of the Texas sideline, the more I think that the person holding the Iowa clipboard is the alternate official on the sideline. The white pants and the black collar o his shirt. maybe? Still does not explain the clipboard he\’s holding because it was mentioned in the broadcast as a Big East officials crew.

  • Dan | January 6, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    The painted facemasks belong to Washington. Up until sometime in the late 80’s or early 90’s they figured out how to do it without painting the facemask. There is a Rose Bowl cover from 1978 that shows gold paint on their gray facemasks.

  • who cares | January 6, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    Ignore the mooseknuckle if you can and focus on the soccer ball. Is this just a generic ball or what they plan on using in WC2010.

    http://cache4.asset-...

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”309017″]Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?[/quote]

    Just the reproduction in the original magazine itself.. Neither photography, printing nor television was as advanced as it today.

    That’s why we have to be careful when looking at stuff from long ago. Would be easy to say, “That’s red, I thought they wore orange.” Better to go with what we know and assume it’s a technical issue, because it probably is.

    (Is this where I say, “Ha! You think this uni-watching stuff was EASY back in my day!”…then maybe spit and go back to my whittling?)

    —Ricko

  • Cosmo | January 6, 2009 at 11:53 am |

    I scanned the comments, so excuse me if this has already been mentioned, but does the font on the Steelers helmet look hand-written? Look at the “e”‘s. Slight inconsistencies from one to the next.

  • Robert in Dallas | January 6, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”309022″]Ignore the mooseknuckle if you can and focus on the soccer ball. Is this just a generic ball or what they plan on using in WC2010.

    http://cache4.asset-...

    Your link does not work . . . at least for me.

  • Beardface | January 6, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”309022″]Ignore the mooseknuckle if you can and focus on the soccer ball. Is this just a generic ball or what they plan on using in WC2010.

    http://cache4.asset-...
    For those who do not ‘get it’

    NSFW

  • Dan Tearle | January 6, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”309023″][quote comment=”309017″]Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?[/quote]

    Just the reproduction in the original magazine itself.. Neither photography, printing nor television was as advanced as it today.

    That’s why we have to be careful when looking at stuff from long ago. Would be easy to say, “That’s red, I thought they wore orange.” Better to go with what we know and assume it’s a technical issue, because it probably is.

    (Is this where I say, “Ha! You think this uni-watching stuff was EASY back in my day!”…then maybe spit and go back to my whittling?)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s so true, I have scrapbooks and scrapbooks of photo references which I used to use for paintings, and many of the same photos have been republished through sites like Getty, SI etc. Its amazing how printing processes have progressed and changed since then and interesting to see photo’s ‘as they should be’!

  • cowbell204 | January 6, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”309020″]The more I look at the photo of the Texas sideline, the more I think that the person holding the Iowa clipboard is the alternate official on the sideline. The white pants and the black collar o his shirt. maybe? Still does not explain the clipboard he\’s holding because it was mentioned in the broadcast as a Big East officials crew.[/quote]

    Correct, he’s part of the officiating crew. The same clipboard was seen during the Insight Bowl, and I remember seeing it when Oklahoma played Boise State.

  • Chris in Nashville | January 6, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    I would love to watch Ken Burns Baseball but on my guide on Comcast, it just ays “Major League Baseball” 24-7 so I can’t set that up. Damn you MLB Network.

  • Eric Romain | January 6, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”309004″]Sorry for the crappy quality on the College Shoe Repair photos, all I had on me was my Blackberry. If you want to see pics of my girl and my trip to the Football HOF on the way home from Ann Arbor, you can check it here: http://www.flickr.co...

    I used to get my skates sharpened @ College Shoe Repair once in a while. The old man who ran the store was russian so the place had lots of exotic russian equipment on the walls, and very interesting sweaters.

    If you want to see some incredible hockey stuff, Perani’s Hockey World up in Flint Mich has what at one point was north america’s largest hockey store. They have all kinds of incredible game worn sweaters hanging from the ceiling from different eras. I remember they have one of Fedorov’s original prototype white Nike Skates in a glass case.

  • who cares | January 6, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”309026″][quote comment=”309022″]Ignore the mooseknuckle if you can and focus on the soccer ball. Is this just a generic ball or what they plan on using in WC2010.

    http://cache4.asset-...
    For those who do not ‘get it’

    NSFW[/quote]

    Here, I’ll try again. And if this is NSFW at your office you must work for the biggest prudes on earth.

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|83260434%2c83260430%2c83260421%2c83260419%2c83260415%2c83260402%2c83033143%2c83033131%2c83085562%2c83085561%2c83085556%2c83085547%2c83085537%2c83085521%2c83085488%2c83085475%2c83085447%2c83085390%2c83085382%2c83085380%2c83085370%2c82955241%2c82954704%2c82951892%2c82951891%2c82951890%2c82951884%2c82951872%2c82951867%2c82951855%2c82951853%2c82951851%2c82951837%2c82951322%2c82951066%2c82950839%2c82950733%2c82950721%2c82950707%2c82950678%2c82950663%2c82950652%2c82950643%2c82950636%2c82950630%2c82950621|0

  • Noelski | January 6, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    i pass on going to peranis if its in flint…

  • Jim Bullard | January 6, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”309018″][quote comment=”309014″]I have never noticed the hurricane warning flags on their pants.

    http://grfx.cstv.com...

    interesting in that they have that, and not a storm warning…like a certain hockey team ;)

    we had discussed the hurricane last year (might have been during a bryan entry) and at the time i wondered why a city in a landlocked state would take such an apparent misnomer…

    turns out that before being named the golden hurricane waaaaaaaay in 1922, tulsa had many team nicknames (including kendallites, presbyterians, tigers, orange, black, and tulsans)…originally, the name golden tornadoes (which makes a LOT more sense) was decided, but it was quickly found out that name was taken by GT…which has obviously since dropped that nickname…but golden hurricane stuck[/quote]

    As a recent transplant to Tulsa, I inquired as to the name as well. The story everyone around town tells, and I know this does not completley match up to the story on Tulsa’s website, is that a beat writer described Tulsa’s football team taking the field looked like a “Golden Hurricane” and the name originated there.

    What I do know for sureis their mascot “Captain Cane” has a tornado for a head, dresses like a caped super hero and is so campy that he’s actually pretty cool.

    In a semi-related note, there is also a large billboard near my house (which is close to campus) which features the TU basketball team wearing four different color uniforms. A player in home whites, a player in away blues, a player in alt black, and a player wearing what I assume is a throwback gold jersey. I should take a picture of this billboard and post it here. I couldn’t find evidence of them wearing the gold jersey anywhere on the interweb when I searched recently. Also, considering their official colors are blue, yellow, and red, the black uniform looks particularly foolish.

  • Kek | January 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”309029″][quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    I would love to watch Ken Burns Baseball but on my guide on Comcast, it just ays “Major League Baseball” 24-7 so I can’t set that up. Damn you MLB Network.[/quote]
    As I said in my previous comment, I’m getting the same thing. You have to set a manual recording, setting the start/stop time yourself. It runs from 8-10:30.

    I don’t know why Comcast’s guide is off. I check the TV schedule on the Post-Gazette website and it’s one of those deals where you enter your zip code and then pick from one of the cable or satellite providers. For MLB Network, they are showing the full schedule of programming. The data is out there, much to the contrary of the “NO DATA AVAILABLE” that is on my guide.

  • Kek | January 6, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”309014″]the black uniform looks particularly foolish.[/quote]

    Don’t you know black is the new….whatever! I think I’ve heard somewhere the Mets use black and they have a strong contingent of fans that hate it!!!!

  • TD | January 6, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    I’m going to guess on the jersey bib thing. In high school we had a two way all american who was a starting linebacker/end and wore 55, but he’d also play offense as a TE and had a pinney bib thing with #88 on it so he wouldn’t have to declare eligibility. He was even in the program as 55/88.
    I’m guessing the 77 bib is the reverse logic of that, depending on what rules apply to wearing offensive numbers on defense.

  • Mike | January 6, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”308983″][quote comment=”308969″][quote comment=”308966″][quote comment=”308963″]Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.[/quote]

    If I had to guess I’d say that “IOWA” is a call (or a dummy call) the Longhorns use. That guy probably holds the clipboard up at times.[/quote]

    His credential pass looks more like a press pass.

    If he were really a Texas coach making dummy calls, he would most definitely be wearing Texas gear.[/quote]
    Not necessarily…

    Many times coaches like to wear colors that would make them distinct on the sidelines so the players can easily see the coach they’re looking for. His shirt has ‘Texas Longhorns’ on it, but it was the only one the players would be looking at with any kind of red. If thats the case, it was smart.[/quote]

    It’s true that a lot of coaches (particularly those who signal plays) wear contrasting colors, but I’ve never seen one wear the colors of the other team.

    Regardless, the hoodie in question is indeed the Fiesta Bowl commemorative hoodie given to the teams as part of their bowl packages, and it did include both Ohio State and Texas graphics. If the coach indeed intended to stand out or confuse the Buckeyes, he failed because there were people wearing the same hoodie on both sidelines.

  • Farmer | January 6, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”308978″][quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]

    No, that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)

    He too is an AWESOME football player constantly in the right place at the right time.

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 3 and final installment:

    Check out this gallery from the UT website:

    http://www.texasspor...

    Pics # 17, 19, 30, 36, 37, and 42 are of note.

    17 in particular because a UT D-Lineman is wearing black tights? In Arizona?

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?[/quote]

    I think the graphic is paisley. It’s a “typical western” design I believe.

  • Farmer | January 6, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”309038″][quote comment=”308978″][quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]

    No, that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)

    He too is an AWESOME football player constantly in the right place at the right time.

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 3 and final installment:

    Check out this gallery from the UT website:

    http://www.texasspor...

    Pics # 17, 19, 30, 36, 37, and 42 are of note.

    17 in particular because a UT D-Lineman is wearing black tights? In Arizona?

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?[/quote]

    I think the graphic is paisley. It’s a “typical western” design I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe I should have said stereotypical…

  • Valjean | January 6, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”309034″][quote comment=”309029″][quote comment=”308968″]not strictly uni-related, but for those of us who get the new MLB channel (and i do, so that means all of you must, since i don’t get JACK on my cable carrier)…

    the Ken Burns Baseball series, originally shown on PBS, is running every tuesday night at 8:00 (eastern)…if you haven’t seen this…SET YOUR DVRs…

    absolutely must-see tv[/quote]

    I would love to watch Ken Burns Baseball but on my guide on Comcast, it just ays “Major League Baseball” 24-7 so I can’t set that up. Damn you MLB Network.[/quote]
    As I said in my previous comment, I’m getting the same thing. You have to set a manual recording, setting the start/stop time yourself. It runs from 8-10:30.

    I don’t know why Comcast’s guide is off. I check the TV schedule on the Post-Gazette website and it’s one of those deals where you enter your zip code and then pick from one of the cable or satellite providers. For MLB Network, they are showing the full schedule of programming. The data is out there, much to the contrary of the “NO DATA AVAILABLE” that is on my guide.[/quote]

    A suggestion: if you have one, reboot your cable box. By this I mean, actually unplug it (not just turn it off/on), wait 10 seconds, and plug it back in again. (Then turn your TV back on if you need to, etc., depending on your setup.) I contract for cable/sat companies (in display software, no less), and this process *usually* refreshes the guide data, if there’s any to be had. Comcast isn’t one of my clients but they tend to work like the others.

    If that doesn’t give you a schedule, blame MLB Net — very likely they’re not providing data to Comcast yet. (They actually do it via an intermediary like Tribune or TV Guide and tend to supply cable boxes last.) This isn’t at all unusual for a new network, even if they’re publishing to the newspapers. It’ll show up eventually — and in the meantime your manual recording is the best way to go.

  • Farmer | January 6, 2009 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”309039″][quote comment=”309038″][quote comment=”308978″][quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]

    No, that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)

    He too is an AWESOME football player constantly in the right place at the right time.

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 3 and final installment:

    Check out this gallery from the UT website:

    http://www.texasspor...

    Pics # 17, 19, 30, 36, 37, and 42 are of note.

    17 in particular because a UT D-Lineman is wearing black tights? In Arizona?

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?[/quote]

    I think the graphic is paisley. It’s a “typical western” design I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe I should have said stereotypical…[/quote]

    Similar to this –

    http://www.hatcountr...

  • rosco remalade | January 6, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”309038″][quote comment=”308978″][quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]

    No, that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)

    He too is an AWESOME football player constantly in the right place at the right time.

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 3 and final installment:

    Check out this gallery from the UT website:

    http://www.texasspor...

    Pics # 17, 19, 30, 36, 37, and 42 are of note.

    17 in particular because a UT D-Lineman is wearing black tights? In Arizona?

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?[/quote]

    I think the graphic is paisley. It’s a “typical western” design I believe.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”309037″][quote comment=”308983″][quote comment=”308969″][quote comment=”308966″][quote comment=”308963″]Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.[/quote]

    If I had to guess I’d say that “IOWA” is a call (or a dummy call) the Longhorns use. That guy probably holds the clipboard up at times.[/quote]

    His credential pass looks more like a press pass.

    If he were really a Texas coach making dummy calls, he would most definitely be wearing Texas gear.[/quote]
    Not necessarily…

    Many times coaches like to wear colors that would make them distinct on the sidelines so the players can easily see the coach they’re looking for. His shirt has ‘Texas Longhorns’ on it, but it was the only one the players would be looking at with any kind of red. If thats the case, it was smart.[/quote]

    It’s true that a lot of coaches (particularly those who signal plays) wear contrasting colors, but I’ve never seen one wear the colors of the other team.

    Regardless, the hoodie in question is indeed the Fiesta Bowl commemorative hoodie given to the teams as part of their bowl packages, and it did include both Ohio State and Texas graphics. If the coach indeed intended to stand out or confuse the Buckeyes, he failed because there were people wearing the same hoodie on both sidelines.[/quote]

    Texas plays Iowa State from the Big12 North every other year or so. It could just be a Texas player/coach who needed a clipboard and grabbed on that somebody decorated for that game.

  • UmpLou | January 6, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”309012″]Anybody know if MLB channel is headed for DishNetwork anytime soon?[/quote]

    Probably not – Dish is infamous for not knucling under to sports channels – they do not carry either YES or the Mets channel in New York.

  • BJT | January 6, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”309013″][quote comment=”308975″]
    Well, for starters, the NCAA doesn’t forbids a school from turning down a tournament invite, so I would say you probably shouldn’t think too hard about that going forward.
    [/quote]

    i dont have any proof outside of “i remember hearing one time”, but i remember hearing one time that the NCAA mandated taking tournament bids after this situation.

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 2:37 pm |
  • Kek | January 6, 2009 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”309041″] A suggestion: if you have one, reboot your cable box. By this I mean, actually unplug it (not just turn it off/on), wait 10 seconds, and plug it back in again. (Then turn your TV back on if you need to, etc., depending on your setup.) I contract for cable/sat companies (in display software, no less), and this process *usually* refreshes the guide data, if there’s any to be had. Comcast isn’t one of my clients but they tend to work like the others.

    If that doesn’t give you a schedule, blame MLB Net — very likely they’re not providing data to Comcast yet. (They actually do it via an intermediary like Tribune or TV Guide and tend to supply cable boxes last.) This isn’t at all unusual for a new network, even if they’re publishing to the newspapers. It’ll show up eventually — and in the meantime your manual recording is the best way to go.[/quote]

    Re: booting the cable box, been there done that, several times. No dice. Pisses me off. Both of my boxes actually have sucked lately. I only get program detail for two days. After that, I’ll get the name of the show, but no detail.

  • DenverGregg | January 6, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    Truly outstanding stuff from Ricko!

    It’s been so long since I’ve seen a player wear forearm pads, I’d actually forgotten about them.

    I’d like to see the Broncos go back to the jersey featured in that shot and the pants featured on players other than #83. Keep the current helmet, adjusted to match uniform colors.

    Is the player at extreme right (#47 or at least X7) wearing a sock with two orange stripes on his right leg? Looks like it to me, but his left sock is hard to see and the other players are wearing socks more like the current two-tone style.

  • dwight | January 6, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    a little help please: who is the guy from the “we must protect this house” ua commercials? thanks fellow uni-watch psychos!

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”309049″]a little help please: who is the guy from the “we must protect this house” ua commercials? thanks fellow uni-watch psychos![/quote]

    you talkin’ bout ray lewis?

  • Valjean | January 6, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”309047″][quote comment=”309041″] A suggestion: if you have one, reboot your cable box. By this I mean, actually unplug it (not just turn it off/on), wait 10 seconds, and plug it back in again. (Then turn your TV back on if you need to, etc., depending on your setup.) I contract for cable/sat companies (in display software, no less), and this process *usually* refreshes the guide data, if there’s any to be had. Comcast isn’t one of my clients but they tend to work like the others.

    If that doesn’t give you a schedule, blame MLB Net — very likely they’re not providing data to Comcast yet. (They actually do it via an intermediary like Tribune or TV Guide and tend to supply cable boxes last.) This isn’t at all unusual for a new network, even if they’re publishing to the newspapers. It’ll show up eventually — and in the meantime your manual recording is the best way to go.[/quote]

    Re: booting the cable box, been there done that, several times. No dice. Pisses me off. Both of my boxes actually have sucked lately. I only get program detail for two days. After that, I’ll get the name of the show, but no detail.[/quote]

    Don’t blame you — and I stand corrected: it *is* Comcast’s fault. If you’re getting titles and no “additional” data it’s due to their lame box software. To be fair, they probably have about 16 Megs of RAM to play with in those boxes but almost every other provider seems to squeeze in a week or so under similar circumstances.

    Only exception — for sports events in particular — is when the *league* doesn’t disclose what they’re going to broadcast until a few days before, but that’s a different story …

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”309048″]Truly outstanding stuff from Ricko!

    It’s been so long since I’ve seen a player wear forearm pads, I’d actually forgotten about them.

    I’d like to see the Broncos go back to the jersey featured in that shot and the pants featured on players other than #83. Keep the current helmet, adjusted to match uniform colors.

    Is the player at extreme right (#47 or at least X7) wearing a sock with two orange stripes on his right leg? Looks like it to me, but his left sock is hard to see and the other players are wearing socks more like the current two-tone style.[/quote]

    That’s the leg of an official further in the background. Their socks had two red stripes. Wore red and white striped shirts, too.

    —Ricko

  • Kek | January 6, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    Valjean, I’ve noticed that on GolTV. They don’t know what games from the euro domestic leagues they’ll air until the night before.

  • dwight | January 6, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”309050″][quote comment=”309049″]a little help please: who is the guy from the “we must protect this house” ua commercials? thanks fellow uni-watch psychos![/quote]

    you talkin’ bout ray lewis?[/quote]

    nah – prior to the big name guys being on the commercials – think he was a backup for the cowboys at one time.

  • Mark | January 6, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    re: IOWA clipboard
    I particularly enjoy how bored/pissed off that she has to be there the water girl right beside Mack Brown looks

  • Rick MD | January 6, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    RE: Under Armour pitchman = Eric Ogbogu

  • dwight | January 6, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”309056″]RE: Under Armour pitchman = Eric Ogbogu[/quote]

    that’s it – thanks boss

  • DenverGregg | January 6, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”309052″][quote comment=”309048″]Truly outstanding stuff from Ricko!

    It’s been so long since I’ve seen a player wear forearm pads, I’d actually forgotten about them.

    I’d like to see the Broncos go back to the jersey featured in that shot and the pants featured on players other than #83. Keep the current helmet, adjusted to match uniform colors.

    Is the player at extreme right (#47 or at least X7) wearing a sock with two orange stripes on his right leg? Looks like it to me, but his left sock is hard to see and the other players are wearing socks more like the current two-tone style.[/quote]

    That’s the leg of an official further in the background. Their socks had two red stripes. Wore red and white striped shirts, too.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Thanks. I remember seeing pictures of the red/white ref shirts. Makes sense the socks would match.

  • Justin | January 6, 2009 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”309043″][quote comment=”309038″][quote comment=”308978″][quote comment=”308973″]I believe Ed Reed went to University of Miami, so maybe that was the reason?[/quote]

    No, that is the reason Ed “Can’t” Reed :)

    He too is an AWESOME football player constantly in the right place at the right time.

    Fiesta Bowl Pt. 3 and final installment:

    Check out this gallery from the UT website:

    http://www.texasspor...

    Pics # 17, 19, 30, 36, 37, and 42 are of note.

    17 in particular because a UT D-Lineman is wearing black tights? In Arizona?

    BTW, what is the graphic on UT’s gloves supposed to be?[/quote]

    I think the graphic is paisley. It’s a “typical western” design I believe.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”309037″][quote comment=”308983″][quote comment=”308969″][quote comment=”308966″][quote comment=”308963″]Someone on the Texas sideline had an OSU sweatshirt and an Iowa clipboard,…
    … it was actually a Fiesta Bowl Sweatshirt. It had ‘Texas Longhorns’ on the bottom half. I have no idea about the clipboard though.[/quote]

    If I had to guess I’d say that “IOWA” is a call (or a dummy call) the Longhorns use. That guy probably holds the clipboard up at times.[/quote]

    His credential pass looks more like a press pass.

    If he were really a Texas coach making dummy calls, he would most definitely be wearing Texas gear.[/quote]
    Not necessarily…

    Many times coaches like to wear colors that would make them distinct on the sidelines so the players can easily see the coach they’re looking for. His shirt has ‘Texas Longhorns’ on it, but it was the only one the players would be looking at with any kind of red. If thats the case, it was smart.[/quote]

    It’s true that a lot of coaches (particularly those who signal plays) wear contrasting colors, but I’ve never seen one wear the colors of the other team.

    Regardless, the hoodie in question is indeed the Fiesta Bowl commemorative hoodie given to the teams as part of their bowl packages, and it did include both Ohio State and Texas graphics. If the coach indeed intended to stand out or confuse the Buckeyes, he failed because there were people wearing the same hoodie on both sidelines.[/quote]

    Texas plays Iowa State from the Big12 North every other year or so. It could just be a Texas player/coach who needed a clipboard and grabbed on that somebody decorated for that game.[/quote]

    I’m almost certain the Iowa clipboard has to do with playcalling. If you watched the game, there were a few shots of Texas coaches holding clipboards with big numbers on the back of them. And there was even one with a coach rotating between a big stack of numbers.

    It’s probably similar to the big colorful board Oklahoma State uses.

    And as far as the Pryor sticker, it was on all of Ohio State’s helmets.

  • Skycat | January 6, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”308992″]I seem to remember the Knicks wearing Retro unis similar to these ones pictured in the ticker:

    http://farm4.static....

    http://espn.go.com/m...

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Nonetheless, I found an interesting history of the knicks uniforms here:

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    Is it me, or do the painted facemasks of Oregon\’s opponent ironically resemble beaks?

    http://boundless.uor...
    Here’s Jamal Crawford in the 1952 retro.
    Knicks 1952 road jerseys.tiff
    I actually prefer this to the current uni the Knicks wear. The piping has gotten too elaborate for my taste. The Celtics uniform is classic (except for the ill-advised alternates) for a reason. The Knicks should have stuck with the ones worn during the Clyde era.

  • Bdawg | January 6, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    That Bulldog jersey is not a UGA jersey. They never wore those colors and the seller only describes it as “Bulldogs” not UGA.

  • Will | January 6, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    I am fairly certain that is not a UGA uniform.

    Check out these replicas they gave Trippi (62) and Sinkwich (21) to hold when they retired their numbers about 20 years ago.

    Both played for the Dawgs in the 40s. To my best knowledge, UGA has only used variations of red, silver, black, and cream as uniform colors. Not blue.

    They have exact replicas housed at Butts-Mehre but I haven’t been able to dig up a photo yet.

    BTW, anyone ever figure out what that black heart patch was about?

  • Ian | January 6, 2009 at 4:30 pm |

    I’m down like a clown, Charlie br-br-Brown

  • Skycat | January 6, 2009 at 4:32 pm |

    Re: Knicks 1952 road jerseys

    Sorry, couldn’t get the link to work.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”309057″][quote comment=”309056″]RE: Under Armour pitchman = Eric Ogbogu[/quote]

    that’s it – thanks boss[/quote]

    Pronounced Ah-ga-boo…He is from my area. He attended Archbishop Stepinac in White Plains, NY and then went on to Maryland and later the Jets.

    His connection with UA is obviously from his days at Maryland where he played with Kevin Plank, the company’s founder.

    Of note, now all of the Terrapins teams are outfitted by UA. Gary WIlliams and the Hoops team were the last holdouts until this lasy year, uniform wise.

    Shoe-wise, a handful of players are still wearing Jordan Brand Esternos and Nike Hyperdunks:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”309065″][quote comment=”309057″][quote comment=”309056″]RE: Under Armour pitchman = Eric Ogbogu[/quote]

    that’s it – thanks boss[/quote]

    Pronounced Ah-ga-boo…He is from my area. He attended Archbishop Stepinac in White Plains, NY and then went on to Maryland and later the Jets.

    His connection with UA is obviously from his days at Maryland where he played with Kevin Plank, the company’s founder.

    Of note, now all of the Terrapins teams are outfitted by UA. Gary WIlliams and the Hoops team were the last holdouts until this lasy year, uniform wise.

    Shoe-wise, a handful of players are still wearing Jordan Brand Esternos and Nike Hyperdunks:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Correction…in the pic above, there are more Nike styles on the right side of the pic:

    1. Nike Huarache Elite:

    http://www.espnshop....

    2. Zoom Flight 5, as in Jason Kidd:

    http://www.sneakerfi...

  • Phil | January 6, 2009 at 5:06 pm |

    Could be the Samford Bulldogs, whose colors are red and blue.

  • Fred in Philly | January 6, 2009 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”308986″]
    MLB Channel is sweet; I got to watch the Phillies win the World Series all over again. My one complaint with the Ken Burns’ series is I was surprised–nay, shocked–to discover they played baseball outside New York and Boston.[/quote]
    The World Series Box Set is a must-purchase. $80 is a bit much, but Amazon.com had it for $40. I’ve now seen the Phils win the World Phuckin’ Championship about twenty times. {uni-related because you can check out all the cold-weather gear worn by both teams.}

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 5:28 pm |

    Alright…if noone else will handle this ticker item, I’ll take it:

    http://farm2.static....

    Covering the logo of a competeing brands’ shoe is infabtile, however not without precedent.

    I recall back in the late 80’s and 90’s, MANY players would spat their cleats and draw in a logo.

    Tanel 360:

    http://www.prosports...

    Remember those:

    http://ecx.images-am...

    And for you Giants fans out there, while searching for pics I came across these. Who can forget these three images…forget the AWESOME uni-significance?:

    http://www.edgarbrow...

    http://farm3.static....

    http://cache.gettyim...
    http://foothillsspor...

  • u2-horn | January 6, 2009 at 5:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”309046″]

    And as far as the Pryor sticker, it was on all of Ohio State’s helmets.[/quote]

    68 wasn’t on all the helmets. They have a couple of memorial-type numbers, but the 68 on Pryor’s helmet was the same type that everybody had that matches their own number.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 5:37 pm |

    GREAT pics of the Texas gloves:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://i176.photobuc...

    #8 has a Strap-Loc too!

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”309070″][quote comment=”309046″]

    And as far as the Pryor sticker, it was on all of Ohio State’s helmets.[/quote]

    68 wasn’t on all the helmets. They have a couple of memorial-type numbers, but the 68 on Pryor’s helmet was the same type that everybody had that matches their own number.[/quote]

    thanks, u2…was gonna say that, but didn’t watch the whole game so wasn’t sure…this was the typical tOSU helmet…this was pryor’s helmet

    i still demand a plus 1 after florida destroys the sooners…45-35 says so

  • Lwiedy | January 6, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    If you wanted that set of NFL theme art posters and didn’t bid the $135 to get it (or have room for 26 posters), here is the same artwork on Fleer Big Signs as a full set. The seller even notes that the hole punch is intact for all but one (don’t know why, but I thought that kinda funny): http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    Also, a complete set of Talkin’ Baseball 45’s. Even if you don’t want ‘em, the guy linked the song when the page is opened: http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    Finally, don’t miss NFL Films treatment of the “green dot” on Presents. Aires Wednesday at 2:00 p.m. on ESPN2.

  • Stu | January 6, 2009 at 5:47 pm |

    Dwight: I’m pretty sure Eric Ogbogu is the man you are looking for

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | January 6, 2009 at 6:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”309072″][quote comment=”309070″][quote comment=”309046″]

    And as far as the Pryor sticker, it was on all of Ohio State’s helmets.[/quote]

    68 wasn’t on all the helmets. They have a couple of memorial-type numbers, but the 68 on Pryor’s helmet was the same type that everybody had that matches their own number.[/quote]

    thanks, u2…was gonna say that, but didn’t watch the whole game so wasn’t sure…this was the typical tOSU helmet…this was pryor’s helmet

    i still demand a plus 1 after florida destroys the sooners…45-35 says so[/quote]

    Forgive me for EVER saying it… BOOMER!

  • nick garcia | January 6, 2009 at 6:13 pm |

    hey about the guy on the sidelines with the sweatshirt and clipboard.. i was saling the merchandise inside the stadium and the sweatshirt actually has both teams on it its just that his arms are covering up the texas part of the sweatshirt.

  • Farmer | January 6, 2009 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”309071″]GREAT pics of the Texas gloves:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://i176.photobuc...

    #8 has a Strap-Loc too![/quote]

    Yeah, that’s definitely paisley. I wonder why that graphic?

  • BluesFan44 | January 6, 2009 at 6:56 pm |

    “The designer who created the United Nations logo has died (with thanks to Matt Hackethal)”

    Did this Hackenthal chap have something to do with the death????

  • hillvecio | January 6, 2009 at 7:21 pm |

    My theory on “Iowa Clipboard Man.”

    He is not a Texas coach, rather he works either for Fox, one of the radio affiliates, or possibly the Fiesta Bowl iself. Some sort of spotter, or “producer” or something like that. The Iowa clipboard is an old clipboard that he once used to hold game notes on Iowa.

    Makes as much sense as any other explanation.

  • hillvecio | January 6, 2009 at 7:26 pm |

    Sticking with the Fiesta Bowl, were they trying to improve their “old school college football” cred by having AZ state troopers escort the coaches, even thought it looked like most of the other on-field cops were local Sheriff deputies?

    As a Michigan State fan, I have long felt that the abscence of state troopers escorting Mark Dantonio (or for that matter any of his predescors) is a major factor in our inability to crack the upper echelon of the Big Ten.

  • Podunk Texas | January 6, 2009 at 7:26 pm |

    My wonderful wife (who often ribs me about my uni obsessions) complained about the Ohio State uniforms… “Why don’t the stripes on the shirt match the stripes on the pants? Not to mention the helmet… That’s just dumb!” It’s easy to see why I married her! :)

  • Tom Servaux | January 6, 2009 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote]
    Alright…if noone else w
    I recall back in the late 80’s and 90’s, MANY players would spat their cleats and draw in a logo.
    [/quote]

    Any conversation about logos on spats in the ’80s must include a picture of Walter Payton’s Roos

  • david | January 6, 2009 at 7:52 pm |

    I mentioned to Paul before about the University of Washigton’s helmets from that Rose Bowl. My cousin played for Iowa and I have the program from the Rose Bowl of Iowa versus Washington. Was neat though to see just the top of the mask painted. And being a former Equipment Manager-who has put decals on-they painted and had to re-decal those!

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”309074″]Dwight: I’m pretty sure Eric Ogbogu is the man you are looking for[/quote]

    Correct, check #106.

    http://mocksession.c...

    Again, I don’t think that Clipboard man has anything to do with either team.

    1. Generic sweatshirt

    2. Huge Sidelines Pass. Coaches wouldn’t need that. Venables, Brown, Tressel, none of them has one.

    3. Iowa…Could be a beat writer following TOSU. I would assume he picked up a discarded clipbaord in Des Moines or Columbus.

    4. All of the Texas coaches are wearing Khaki colored Chinos, his are white. They are DEFINITELY not referree’s knickers.

    5. The lanyard on his pass reads Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, not Texas Longhorns or TOSU Buckeyes.

    6. One problem with my Theorem…Apathetic Water girl to Mack Brown’s left,(our right), has a similar pass although the border is yellow. team issued maybe?

    Her right sleeve of the UT warmup even has a TFB patch embroidered?

  • ChrisN | January 6, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    RE: the ebay items… no way that game-worn Bulldog jersey is a Georgia jersey from the ’40’s. They were wearing numbers by then, and wouldn’t have been wearing red, white, and blue. It is a great looking jersey, though.

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 8:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”309084″][quote comment=”309074″]Dwight: I’m pretty sure Eric Ogbogu is the man you are looking for[/quote]

    Correct, check #106.

    http://mocksession.c...

    Again, I don’t think that Clipboard man has anything to do with either team.

    1. Generic sweatshirt

    2. Huge Sidelines Pass. Coaches wouldn’t need that. Venables, Brown, Tressel, none of them has one.

    3. Iowa…Could be a beat writer following TOSU. I would assume he picked up a discarded clipbaord in Des Moines or Columbus.

    4. All of the Texas coaches are wearing Khaki colored Chinos, his are white. They are DEFINITELY not referree’s knickers.

    5. The lanyard on his pass reads Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, not Texas Longhorns or TOSU Buckeyes.

    6. One problem with my Theorem…Apathetic Water girl to Mack Brown’s left,(our right), has a similar pass although the border is yellow. team issued maybe?

    Her right sleeve of the UT warmup even has a TFB patch embroidered?[/quote]

    Ammendment to #4. CBM’s white pants aren’t ref knickers or chinos. They are PAINTER’S pants. If you zoom in, right below Browns; right elbow, the hammer loop is visible.

    This guy has nothing to do with either staff.

    This is going to become my “White Whale”.

    I might have to look up some numbers and e-mail addresses in the SID at UT tomorrow!

    While we’re at it, someone could contact the EM at TOSU and find out what the 68 decal is for.

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 8:31 pm |

    I think Washington painting the top portion of the facemask goes back a ways…
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • david | January 6, 2009 at 8:36 pm |

    That pic of Sonny Six is cool! The pics from the Rose Bowl program are super cool my cousins played for Coach Fry against Don James’ Huskies

  • ChrisSh | January 6, 2009 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”309084″]
    3. Iowa…Could be a beat writer following TOSU. I would assume he picked up a discarded clipbaord in Des Moines or Columbus.
    [/quote]
    Seems like a solid theory, I just wanted to add that my Hawkeyes are from Iowa City, not Des Moines. :)

  • MPowers1634 | January 6, 2009 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”309089″][quote comment=”309084″]
    3. Iowa…Could be a beat writer following TOSU. I would assume he picked up a discarded clipbaord in Des Moines or Columbus.
    [/quote]
    Seems like a solid theory, I just wanted to add that my Hawkeyes are from Iowa City, not Des Moines. :)[/quote]

    Mea Culpa…Dually noted :)

  • Ricko | January 6, 2009 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”309089″][quote comment=”309084″]
    3. Iowa…Could be a beat writer following TOSU. I would assume he picked up a discarded clipbaord in Des Moines or Columbus.
    [/quote]
    Seems like a solid theory, I just wanted to add that my Hawkeyes are from Iowa City, not Des Moines. :)[/quote]

    Certainly possible it’s a beat writer, but I can’t imagine a big-time coach allowing a writer anywhere near the bench during a game, especially a major game like last night’s. Unless, of course, the guy were ghostwriting the coach’s autobiography. LOL. Otherwise, just wayyyyy too much natural enmity between coaches and writers.

    —Ricko

  • Steve | January 6, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    Huuuuge patches in the GMAC Bowl tonight on Tulsa and Ball State! Ball State’s patch is essentially on their sleeve and chest at the same time.

  • Patrick in MI | January 6, 2009 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”309080″]Sticking with the Fiesta Bowl, were they trying to improve their “old school college football” cred by having AZ state troopers escort the coaches, even thought it looked like most of the other on-field cops were local Sheriff deputies?

    As a Michigan State fan, I have long felt that the abscence of state troopers escorting Mark Dantonio (or for that matter any of his predescors) is a major factor in our inability to crack the upper echelon of the Big Ten.[/quote]

    Can anyone please reasonably explain why a college football coach needs a phalanx of police officers to escort him off the field? He’s a grown man, he should be able to do it by himself. I can think of better things for a law enforcement officer to be doing. Perhaps saving innocent sofas in East Lansing, for instance. If he needs security, then hire a couple of bouncers.

    While I’m ranting, can we please PLEASE stop the Gatroade shower? Or at least not show it during the broadcast? These goofballs in the booth think it’s the funniest thing ever. It’s quite anti-climactic and it was amusing maybe once but it’s no longer necessary.

    OK, keeping this uni-related…those Bama gloves remind me of Bear Bryant’s hat. I suppose this was probably mentioned last night but I think it’s a cool tribute.

  • RockchalkJayhawk | January 6, 2009 at 9:41 pm |

    Did the GMAC Bowl get the whole anniversary thing wrong? The mid-field logo, and i am assuming the patches as well, says 10th anniversary 1999-2009. Wouldn’t the 10th anniversary be 2008?

  • Steve | January 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”309094″]Did the GMAC Bowl get the whole anniversary thing wrong? The mid-field logo, and i am assuming the patches as well, says 10th anniversary 1999-2009. Wouldn’t the 10th anniversary be 2008?[/quote]

    Nope, they got it right. 2008 would be the 10th season, but only the 9th anniversary. 2009 is the 11th season and the 10th anniversary of the first game.

  • RockchalkJayhawk | January 6, 2009 at 9:58 pm |

    yeah that’s right. thanks Steve.

  • Steve | January 6, 2009 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”309092″]Huuuuge patches in the GMAC Bowl tonight on Tulsa and Ball State! Ball State’s patch is essentially on their sleeve and chest at the same time.[/quote]

    http://d.yimg.com/us... Best I’ve got so far on the patch.

  • Ben | January 6, 2009 at 10:00 pm |

    Sorry if this was posted but,
    Color vs. Color in Uconn at West Virginia
    and also Tulsa and Ball state have the same uni design, just colored different.
    http://www.danzfamil...
    http://media.college...

  • Justin | January 6, 2009 at 10:08 pm |

    I wouldn’t be surprised if someone’s picked up on this before now, but I just noticed Steve Mason wearing mismatched leg pads

  • George McClure | January 6, 2009 at 10:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”309023″][quote comment=”309017″]Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?[/quote]

    Just the reproduction in the original magazine itself.. Neither photography, printing nor television was as advanced as it today.

    That’s why we have to be careful when looking at stuff from long ago. Would be easy to say, “That’s red, I thought they wore orange.” Better to go with what we know and assume it’s a technical issue, because it probably is.

    (Is this where I say, “Ha! You think this uni-watching stuff was EASY back in my day!”…then maybe spit and go back to my whittling?)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Thanks for this photo of my favorite Bronco set of all time! As far the colors go, this generation was definitely a darker, reddish-orange than the previous one with the three white stripes on the jerseys. I have a color photo of the 1965 team in which several players are wearing the 1964 jerseys, and you can clearly see the difference. Also, the excellent SSUR.org site notes the difference here: http://ssur.org/rese...

  • Doug in GA | January 6, 2009 at 10:17 pm |

    BTW, anyone ever figure out what that black heart patch was about?[/quote]

    I was a student at UGA from 1990-93, while Zeier was the QB (he was there from 1991-94). The heart patch, if I recall correctly, did not signify anything in particular (like a memorial patch), but stood as a reminder for the team to give their all and play with “heart”. Given that UGA went 4-7 in 1990, the year before Zeier arrived on campus, it was probably a necessary reminder.

  • Steve | January 6, 2009 at 10:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”309097″][quote comment=”309092″]Huuuuge patches in the GMAC Bowl tonight on Tulsa and Ball State! Ball State’s patch is essentially on their sleeve and chest at the same time.[/quote]

    http://d.yimg.com/us... Best I’ve got so far on the patch.[/quote]

    Bunch of patches starting to fall off with the weather conditions it seems. Just saw someone on punt coverage with a flapping patch.

  • RockchalkJayhawk | January 6, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    I actually think this is in fact the 9th anniversary of the game because in 2006, the game was moved from december to jauary, so there was no game in ’06. Therefore this is the 10th game, and the 9th aniversary!

  • Chad | January 6, 2009 at 11:23 pm |

    everything you ever wanted to know about how they make the yellow first down line for a football game
    http://www.fandome.c...

  • JTH | January 7, 2009 at 12:59 am |

    I have no hypothesis on the Iowa clipboard nor on who the man holding it is, but I’ve got to say that those screen grabs are fucking fantastic.

  • JTH | January 7, 2009 at 1:03 am |

    [quote comment=”309103″]I actually think this is in fact the 9th anniversary of the game because in 2006, the game was moved from december to jauary, so there was no game in ’06. Therefore this is the 10th game, and the 9th aniversary![/quote]
    Yeah, the first game was played in December of ’99 so this is the tenth game, but the actual anniversary isn’t until December of this year.

  • Tall Paul | January 7, 2009 at 1:05 am |

    [quote comment=”309100″][quote comment=”309023″][quote comment=”309017″]Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?[/quote]

    Just the reproduction in the original magazine itself.. Neither photography, printing nor television was as advanced as it today.

    That’s why we have to be careful when looking at stuff from long ago. Would be easy to say, “That’s red, I thought they wore orange.” Better to go with what we know and assume it’s a technical issue, because it probably is.

    (Is this where I say, “Ha! You think this uni-watching stuff was EASY back in my day!”…then maybe spit and go back to my whittling?)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Thanks for this photo of my favorite Bronco set of all time! As far the colors go, this generation was definitely a darker, reddish-orange than the previous one with the three white stripes on the jerseys. I have a color photo of the 1965 team in which several players are wearing the 1964 jerseys, and you can clearly see the difference. Also, the excellent SSUR.org site notes the difference here: http://ssur.org/rese...

    That is an interesting site…but I noticed that they have only 2 sets of colors listed for the Chargers: 1 in L.A. in 1960 and 1 more for San Diego in 1961-1969. Yet, I believe, just a couple of days ago, or so, it was discussed that the Chargers had many (minor) variations of their uniform colors from year to year in their AFL days.

  • Tall Paul | January 7, 2009 at 1:12 am |

    From 1/4/09…

    #20 by Ricko on 01.04.09 11:43 am | Quote

    The Chargers wore the powder blues with white pants from their inception in 1960 up to 1965. In 1966 they changed the pants to gold.

    Not true; the jerseys they wore in that 1960 to 1965 period (thru 1967 in fact) were darker than the powder blues they introduced in 1968. Check out the San Diego Chargers Uni History link.

    ‘61 card showing almost navy blue (and a bit more old gold) of ‘60 LA Chargers…
    http://farm4.static….
    ‘62 card showing flat-out royal of ‘61 that accompanied moved to San Diego…
    http://farm4.static….
    ‘63 SI cover showing ‘63 royal…
    http://farm4.static….
    Blue got a little lighter for a couple seasons…
    http://farm4.static….
    Royal returned in ‘66 with first gold pants (saw them play in person that season at Balboa Stadium), then were almost navy again in ‘67 with, strangely enough, powder blue high socks…
    http://farm4.static….
    Definite powder blue followed that…
    http://farm4.static….

    —Ricko

  • Tall Paul | January 7, 2009 at 1:16 am |

    Apparently the links aren’t going to work since they’re truncated and I cut and pasted them over to today’s comments. The links can be accessed in the comments from 1/4/09 on post #20.

  • The Hemogoblin | January 7, 2009 at 1:25 am |

    Italics fixed!

  • Taxman | January 7, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”309023″][quote comment=”309017″]Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?[/quote]

    Just the reproduction in the original magazine itself.. Neither photography, printing nor television was as advanced as it today.

    That’s why we have to be careful when looking at stuff from long ago. Would be easy to say, “That’s red, I thought they wore orange.” Better to go with what we know and assume it’s a technical issue, because it probably is.

    (Is this where I say, “Ha! You think this uni-watching stuff was EASY back in my day!”…then maybe spit and go back to my whittling?)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    In the early to mid 70’s the Broncos’ orange was a blood orange or reddish orange. When they became the Orange Crush they went with a more straight forward orange.

  • George McClure | January 7, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”309109″][quote comment=”309100″][quote comment=”309023″][quote comment=”309017″]Those 60’s Broncos Orange Unis don’t look very Orange at all – they look red to me. Is it just me?[/quote]

    Just the reproduction in the original magazine itself.. Neither photography, printing nor television was as advanced as it today.

    That’s why we have to be careful when looking at stuff from long ago. Would be easy to say, “That’s red, I thought they wore orange.” Better to go with what we know and assume it’s a technical issue, because it probably is.

    (Is this where I say, “Ha! You think this uni-watching stuff was EASY back in my day!”…then maybe spit and go back to my whittling?)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Thanks for this photo of my favorite Bronco set of all time! As far the colors go, this generation was definitely a darker, reddish-orange than the previous one with the three white stripes on the jerseys. I have a color photo of the 1965 team in which several players are wearing the 1964 jerseys, and you can clearly see the difference. Also, the excellent SSUR.org site notes the difference here: http://ssur.org/rese...

    That is an interesting site…but I noticed that they have only 2 sets of colors listed for the Chargers: 1 in L.A. in 1960 and 1 more for San Diego in 1961-1969. Yet, I believe, just a couple of days ago, or so, it was discussed that the Chargers had many (minor) variations of their uniform colors from year to year in their AFL days.[/quote]

    Here’s the 1965 Broncos team photo I was talking about. Note number numbers 45 and 26 on the right side of the second row from the top — they are wearing the previous year’s lighter color orange.

    http://i27.photobuck...