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As many of you are already aware, there was a major development in online archiving the other day, as Google announced that they’ll be making Life magazine’s photo archive available on the web. This is kinda like having the key to Ricko’s file cabinet — it’s a bottomless rabbit hole of spectacular imagery.

Having already spent several hours clicking through the pics (which you can access through this portal), I can affirm that the photos — most of which were never published, and many more of which will soon be uploaded — are amazing. To take a simple, random example, look at this. The composition, the angles, the lighting, the expression — it’s a minor masterpiece.

And of course there are tons of great sports photos. I’ve chosen a bunch of them and divided them up into two groups: baseball-related and everything else. And since baseball usually gets top billing around here, let’s turn the tables and start with the non-baseball material for a change.

One logistical note: I’ve linked to smaller versions of the photos, so you can see the captions (which are minimal but usually provide at least the date the photo was shot), but I strongly recommend checking out the larger versions as well, which you can see simply by clicking on the smaller version; in fact, in many cases you’ll have to view the larger versions in order to see some of the details I’m talking about.

Now then (with thanks to the many readers who’ve sent in their faves over the past few days):

• There’s a great sequence of photos that shows these masks being made and worn. Additional pics here, here, and here.

• I’ve frequently run old catalog scans of stripe-adorned basketball shorts, but it’s rare that you see photos of them in action (or, OK, just standing there).

• Interesting uni number placement here. And dig that chenille numbering and lettering!

• Rare to see Muhammad Ali not wearing Everlast trunks.

• There’s a surprising number of photos showing girls playing football (additional shots here, here, here, here, here, and, in a surprisingly racy shot for Life, here).

• Love this shot of SMU’s team plane.

• Always amusing to see football refs wearing button-cuff sleeves.

• The team wearing white in this 1952 shot is Georgia Tech. The other team is Duke, who were doing the monochrome thing way ahead of their time.

• Check out the yard markers here. The line and numerals aren’t chalked over the grass — they were cut down to the dirt and then chalked (or maybe painted).

• Best paper route photo ever.

• Awesome artifact here: a post-game radio script.

• Not sure I’d ever seen a hockey photo with this type of headgear before. Apparently it was common in the college ranks.

• Awesome youth roller hockey photo here, and an even better one here. Honorable mention here.

• I don’t know who this kid was, but he sure was a natural in front of the camera. This must have been one of his teammates — love all the threads dangling of the letters. Mom must have sewn them on in a hurry!

• Now that’s a hockey fight photo.

• Love the handwritten seating sections visible in this shot.

• Great bowling scoreboard here, and some really nice bowling shirt embroidery here and here.

• Softball is almost baseball, but not quite, so we’ll put the softball pics in this entry, beginning with these shirts, which look more like bowling shirts — until you see the uni numbers. And check out the rear-shirt designs here, here, here, and here, plus this zebrafied umpire.

• OK, this is just weird.

• How great is it that Vince Lombardi’s jacket simply said this?

This is so awesome, on several different levels.

• These kids must have been mascots or junior captains or something like that. Love the fractional uni numbers, but couldn’t they have at least used the same font?

• Must have been a hot day on the gridiron, because the Villanova players were wearing pith helmets!

• Note the plain referee’s shirt here.

• Man, there’s a lot of questionable activity going on in this photo.

Life must have done a story on basketball ref Jim Enright (no relation, I’m assuming to this Jim Enright), who cut a rather unusual figure in zebra stripes and high-top sneakers. Additional pics here and here.

• Note the differing umpire jacket styles here.

• Sleeved hoops jersey alert! That’s Clemson, essentially wearing T-shirts against a very good-looking NC State team.

• Pure gold here: Roger Staubach with SNOB.

• Here’s a nice one to go out on — thing of beauty.

That’s enough for today. I’ll run the baseball pics in the near future, plus there’s a small group of basketball shots that are presenting such a mystery that I’m planning to give them their own entry, huzzah!

NBA Update: I have a short item about this year’s NBA throwbacks appearing today on Page 2.

Uni Watch News Ticker: I’m a little behind on NHL unveilings, so here are your alts for the Senators (ugh), Kings (doesn’t home plate belong in baseball?), Stars, and Flyers (here’s the rear view). … If you go here, look in the “Multimedia” listing in the right-hand rail, and scroll down to “Michigan’s Throwback Jersey,” you’ll find a nice little video clip on the Michigan hockey team’s new retro threads (thanks to Michael Davis). … Magnificent-looking 1920s basketball uniform catalog available here, and you’ve gotta like this sweater. … Latest Gene Upshaw memorial: Kyle Orton’s cap (courtesy of Paul Mazzarella). … At the risk of offending some of you, family stickers sound like precisely the kind of hellish suburban trope I live in the city to avoid. Or at least that’s what I thought until Brett Crane sent me this. … This very short home movie clip shot at the L.A. Coliseum in 1954 concludes with a shot of this poster. Don’t let the solid-yellow uni make you overlook the white-for-night ball (very nice find by Paul Wiederecht). … “My alma mater, Ohio, celebrated the 40th anniversary of their last MAC championship with 1968 throwback helmets last Saturday against Bowling Green,” writes Tim Burke. Wow — those are my-t-fine, no? … Nicole Haase stumbled across this great archival Wisconsin hockey photo — nice. … Wednesday’s comments featured some discussion of Oregon’s mallard helmet, with several readers suggesting that the duck-ish effect would be more pronounced if the helmet was paired with a yellow facemask, to match the mallard’s bill. Jeremy Brahm points out that the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks used a beak/bill treatment (along with the rest of the hawk’s head, natch) on their batting helmets from 1989-92. … Spectacular article here about the signage and typography in the New York City subway system — high recommended reading (big thanks to Bill Sodeman). … According to this item (sent my way by Dan Thaler), three Dallas players were fined for sock-related uni violations in last Sunday’s Cowboys/’Skins game. One of them was Kevin Burnett (No. 57), who was apparently flagged for wearing high whites. Another was Tony Romo, who you can see here and here — did they really fine him five grand for having a sliver of exposed kneecap, or was it because he appears to have had a small logo of some sort on his right sock? … Some great 1958 Colts/Giants footage (from the regular season, not the championship game) here. … Mizzou is supposedly planning to wear gold against KU (with thanks to Chris Mycoskie). … The Cowboys will be wearing throwbacks against the Niners this weekend. They will not be wearing throwbacks on Thanksgiving — just their regular home whites. … My ESPN colleague Eric Neel has a great new article about the 1958 Buffalo football team (which declined a bowl invitation rather than play without their two black players), and it includes some nice old Buffalo football cover designs. … Laurence Brussels says he recalls a 1970s SI article that mentioned that the Tampa Bay Bucs originally wanted their color scheme to be light green and orange. Anyone know more about this? … “Not sure how many teams across the country do this but Under Armour provides South Carolina with practice jerseys in every opposing team’s color for the scout squad in practice,” writes Beau Franklin. “Gamecocks are off this week, preparing for upstate rival Clemson, so the scout squad is wearing orange.” … The Twins will wear 1982 throwbacks for Saturday home games next year (with thanks to Hugh Gitlin). … Color-vs.-color last night, as Tulsa played Oklahoma State (thanks, Phil). … Trey Phillips notes that Ball State players are wearing an “86” decal — what’s that about? … Speaking of Ball State, Central Michigan wore gold jerseys while playing against them the other night, and it didn’t look as bad as I’d expected. … Jonathon Binet found some unsual shots of Mike Mussina: as a collegiate, as a minor leaguer, not wearing his usual No. 35, and running the bases. Interestingly, he’s wearing a left-handed batting helmet in that last shot, which I initially thought must have been an equipment snafu, but it turns out he batted lefty. … Upside-down “8” alert: Dice-K, from his Fenway debut (good spot by Steve Michaels, who also sent along this). … Mike Regan reports that the Kitchener Rangers had special jerseys and trading cards for Remembrance Day (a nicer treatment than last year’s, I’d say). “This ‘Valour’ jersey is based on the jersey that armed forces personnel wore in Europe during and after WWII,” he writes. “The three stripes that replicate the stripes on the ribbon of the Medal of Military Valour, which is awarded to members of the Canadian Forces (or allied forces serving in conjunction with Canadian Forces) for ‘an act of valour or devotion to duty in the presence of the enemy.'” … There are just too many uni-related things going on in this photo for my poor little brain to process. … Spent yesterday afternoon eating oysters and drinking beer with R&B DJ extraordinaire Mr. Finewine out in Sheepshead Bay, where I was surprised to see one of these signs on the kitchen wall.

 

250 comments to And If They Ever Archive the Ads, My Productive Life Will Definitely Be Over

  • Kevin G. | November 21, 2008 at 8:29 am |

    Check out this eBay find… Does anyone really believe this is Tony Romo’s letterman’s jacket from Eastern Illinois? http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Hott Rodd | November 21, 2008 at 8:34 am |

    Darn! thought for sure i’d get my first ticker credit for the cowboys throwbacks news. Must have been one of the many :-)

    I noticed Romo’s kneecaps poking out during the game sunday night and that was my first thought. But then i thought how can they really fine him if it is during the course of the game?

    Also the Kings link doesn’t seem to work, and Family is mispelled in the Family Stickers blurb.

  • Scott | November 21, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    Funny, everybody who has gold in their unis is wearing gold jerseys at least once these days.

    And nobody mocks them for it.

    Five plus years ago, Joe Tiller at Purdue switched the home jerseys to gold (on the advice of the demon Nike) and they were mocked by CBS and ESPN incessantly.

    Ga Tech, UCF, CMU, Wake, et al. Particularly the ridiculous UCF goldies with white numerals? Been done … can’t even see ’em in the sunlight.

    What’s the deal? Are they so commonplace it’s acceptable these days? Followers :)

  • scott | November 21, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    Let’s hope the Twins do the throwbacks to 1982 right and wear elastic waistbands. I’m also hoping they don’t do the “cool thing” and opt to wear their road powder blues as the turn-back-the-clock uniform.

  • Dan | November 21, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    Ball State’s “86” decal is for their receiver, Dante Love, who had a career-ending neck injury earlier in the year in a game at IU.

  • Like the River | November 21, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    The “86” on Ball State’s helmet is for the receiver who messed up his spine from a hit in the game against Indiana, They carted him off the field and everything and Ball State came back and just waxed IU in the second half!!

  • Peter Wunsch | November 21, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    Boomer Esiason opened the radio broadcast of last night’s Bengals by stating, “I can now say that these are worst uniforms I have ever seen.”

    When I got home and watched , I agree that they are in the top 10.

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    Paul, most of those Icethetics links are getting 404s.

    Also, the Stars wore those white alts at home last night.

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    Never mind. I see that the pics have been Flickrized.

  • randy | November 21, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    The Tampa Bay Bucs initially did consider green & orange for their uniform colors, but it was decided they were too close to the Uni of Miami (FL) colours. They decided to honor the major colleges in the state and went with orange (for Miami & Florida) and red (for Florida State).

  • Paul Lukas | November 21, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    [quote comment=”301166″]Let’s hope the Twins do the throwbacks to 1982 right and wear elastic waistbands. I’m also hoping they don’t do the “cool thing” and opt to wear their road powder blues as the turn-back-the-clock uniform.[/quote]

    Nope, and nope.

  • Doc | November 21, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    As for the handwritten seating sections you mentioned in that hockey photo; I’m thinking they had numbered the sections of boards so when they put them together everything lined up correctly. This was the case when we used to put up our outdoor rink back home anyways.

  • Chip | November 21, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    Also check out the 2 different Cubs logos in that picture:

    Note the differing umpire jacket styles here.

  • Bob A | November 21, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    That Staubach picture is just fantastic. Georgeous uni matchup in that game. What I wouldn’t give for a jersey like that Navy one, and I am not even a jersey collector.

  • Dave Zalatoris | November 21, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Looks like I’m not doing squat today but look at Life magazine photos. Thanks Paul! In this photo, the Giants are wearing different pants.
    http://images.google...

  • Jim MI | November 21, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Watched the DET / EDM hockey game last night and EDM was wearing their throwbacks. This is the first chance I’ve had to see them in action besides pictures. It was wonderful. Love the colors the jerseys used to be.

    How can you not like these:
    http://sportsillustr...

    http://www.geocities...

    http://www.hockeysit...

    http://members.cruzi...

  • fluxcap | November 21, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”301164″]Darn! thought for sure i’d get my first ticker credit for the cowboys throwbacks news. Must have been one of the many :-)

    I noticed Romo’s kneecaps poking out during the game sunday night and that was my first thought. But then i thought how can they really fine him if it is during the course of the game?

    Also the Kings link doesn’t seem to work, and Family is mispelled in the Family Stickers blurb.[/quote]

    The logo on his socks appears to be the top of his shoe’s “tongue”

  • TomServaux | November 21, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Paul — I think the other team in those Georgia Tech pics is Duke. The other photos in the sequence are labeled “Georgia Tech vs. Duke”, and they look like the same uniforms.

  • Jim MI | November 21, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    I think I just found my new favorite hockey photo…

    http://images.google...

    The jersey, the pads, the mask, the look in his eyes…. beautiful.

  • Steve | November 21, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    Anthony Spencer wears # 93, and was fined, not Andre Gurode

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”301179″]
    The logo on his socks appears to be the top of his shoe’s “tongue”[/quote]
    Maybe it’s the thing near his knee.

  • Stuby | November 21, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    What’s the best part of this uniform? The ‘O’ in the middle of AGGIES, the raised lettering, the striped trim, or the number on the shorts? Also, the player is wearing some sort of ring on his left hand, although it doesn’t really look like a wedding ring.
    http://images.google...

  • Paul Lukas | November 21, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”301183″][quote comment=”301179″]
    The logo on his socks appears to be the top of his shoe’s “tongue”[/quote]
    Maybe it’s the thing near his knee.[/quote]

    Yes, that’s the possible logo I was referring to.

  • Sarran | November 21, 2008 at 9:33 am |

    The #93 Cowboy is Anthony Spencer not Andre Gurode. Gurode is the Cowboys center and wears 65.

  • VFeFrenzy | November 21, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Paul,
    In that first picture, the woman is wearing an E&H cap. Was there any indication what the E&H stood for? I would like to think she was an alum of Emory & Henry College, my alma mater, but I can’t find the pic in the Life archives to confirm or deny it.

  • MikeB | November 21, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    Hey Paul, the arena in the shot that you admired the hand written section numbers is Matthews Arena, then known as Boston Arena, which opened in 1910. It was the original home to the Bruins, Celtics, New England Whalers, Northeastern University, Boston University, Harvard, MIT, Tufts, Wentworth, and Boston College Hockey Programs. The shot has BU in Red and it looks like the team in white is Northeastern. BU moved out in 1971 into Walter Brown Arena, BC moved out in 1963 to McHugh Forum, and Northeastern took sole posesion in 1979, and renamed it Matthews Arena, where they still play today.

  • fluxcap | November 21, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”301185″][quote comment=”301183″][quote comment=”301179″]
    The logo on his socks appears to be the top of his shoe’s “tongue”[/quote]
    Maybe it’s the thing near his knee.[/quote]

    Yes, that’s the possible logo I was referring to.[/quote]

    My bad, I guess I win the Captain Obvious Award today…

  • Dave | November 21, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”301176″]That Staubach picture is just fantastic. Georgeous uni matchup in that game. What I wouldn’t give for a jersey like that Navy one, and I am not even a jersey collector.[/quote]
    Any idea what the sleeve patch is on Staubach’s jersey?

  • Nicole | November 21, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    Third piece in the ticker talks about a “weater” – Paul – your S is missing!!

  • Bryan Redemske | November 21, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    On that last link in the ticker, why is crab cakes in quotes?

    “Here, have some ‘crab cakes.'” Umm … pass?

  • interlockingtc | November 21, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    I thought I would spend time away from the computer, then….. the signage article….the Life photo archive.

    The real world will have to wait a little longer.

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote] The team wearing white in this 1952 shot is Georgia Tech. Not sure who the other team is, but they were doing the monochrome thing way ahead of their time.[/quote]
    That looks to me to be a photo from the same game that was referenced in the previous bullet point about the ref with button-cuff sleeves, no?

    The monochrome team is identified as Duke in that photo.

  • jsdryden | November 21, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    Picture of Jackie Robinson in a uniform that not too many have seen I am sure…

    http://images.google...

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”301166″]Let’s hope the Twins do the throwbacks to 1982 right and wear elastic waistbands. I’m also hoping they don’t do the “cool thing” and opt to wear their road powder blues as the turn-back-the-clock uniform.[/quote]

    The helmet that Joe Mauer wears behind the plate still won’t be paired with the correct uniform, right?

    http://cache.daylife...

    Here’s Rod Carew wearing the same helmet in 1978:
    http://i2.iofferphot...

    But I think the ’82 Twins wore red batting helmets with blue brims (this is Kirby Puckett in 1984):
    http://room34.com/wp...

    If they wear the powder blue road unis, then they keep the current blue hat and dark shoes. If they wear the home unis, then it’s a red hat and red shoes, according to the uniform database:
    http://exhibits.base...

  • jsdryden | November 21, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    Guess they couldn’t tell the image was flipped.

    http://images.google...

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”301190″][quote comment=”301176″]That Staubach picture is just fantastic. Georgeous uni matchup in that game. What I wouldn’t give for a jersey like that Navy one, and I am not even a jersey collector.[/quote]
    Any idea what the sleeve patch is on Staubach’s jersey?[/quote]

    Are you talking about Bill the Goat?
    http://cdn.faniq.com...

  • Graham | November 21, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    Michigan assistant coahces were wearing adidas pins on their jsckets. no screen grab will try and get one tonight.

  • John | November 21, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    Gee Paul, what else can you get at that clam bar?

  • Hurnf | November 21, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    In an NFL Network countdown of the 10 ugliest uniforms, they showed a drawing which looked straight out of the World Football League. No screen grab (yet). No green in the photo that I remember.

  • Original Jim | November 21, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    nice error on the first Mussina card pic. It says #20, but you can clearly see he’s wearing #25.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    Todays’ entry is by far my new favorite.

    Based on material alone, this will be returned to many times over.

    A few Christmases ago, I bought my wife a great book of William Steichens’ photography and much of this resembles those pics.

    I use this word alot on this site, but crisp is the best adjective I can use to describe the clothing and overall aura of pics like these:

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”301197″][quote comment=”301166″]Let’s hope the Twins do the throwbacks to 1982 right and wear elastic waistbands. I’m also hoping they don’t do the “cool thing” and opt to wear their road powder blues as the turn-back-the-clock uniform.[/quote]

    The helmet that Joe Mauer wears behind the plate still won’t be paired with the correct uniform, right?

    http://cache.daylife...

    Here’s Rod Carew wearing the same helmet in 1978:
    http://i2.iofferphot...

    But I think the ’82 Twins wore red batting helmets with blue brims (this is Kirby Puckett in 1984):
    http://room34.com/wp...

    If they wear the powder blue road unis, then they keep the current blue hat and dark shoes. If they wear the home unis, then it’s a red hat and red shoes, according to the uniform database:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Database has that wrong. Twins never wore red shoes in the Metrodome. Tri-color helmets were worn during the seasons when they wore red hats at home and navy on the road (with the powder blues), so that helmets would “sorta match” both hats. When they went to the red softcaps both home and road, they changed the batting helmets to red with navy visor. Pretty sure that was when the red shoes went away, too, and was the last outdoor season, or possibly second-to-last.

    —Ricko

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    The pic of the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks helmets totally made my day, awesome. Batting helmet gold standard! I hadn’t had a chance to look around the life site yet, but I can tell it’ll take up at least a couple hours of my day, what a good Friday.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    Ricko is “The Man.”

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”301195″]Picture of Jackie Robinson in a uniform that not too many have seen I am sure…

    http://images.google...

    Great find.

    We haven’t seen that uniform because it’s not accurate – that’s for the filming of The Jackie Robinson Story, and they obviously didn’t bother too much with the details.

    Here’s what the Montreal Royals were wearing in those days. Note the cap.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    Just bring back the Twins’ stirrups with the logo:

    http://www.geocities...

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    It’s hard to find images of those 82 home Twins uniforms in the Metrodome. Most images I find are the powder blue road unis.

    Here’s a pic of Kirby as a rookie in the dome, but you can’t see what color his shoes are.

    http://blogs.citypag...

    He has dark cleats in this 84 pic from spring training, but it’s hard to say if he’s wearing white or blue pants.

    http://caimages.coll...

  • Chris | November 21, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    Check out this Life shot of Villanova players wearing pith helmets on the bench in a game against Texas A&M:

    http://images.google...

    Are they trying to keep cool?

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    In some contemporary sports news:

    Both Duke and Southern Illinois have gone the SOD route.

    http://scores.espn.g...

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    OK, since I’m not getting a damn thing done at work today, I had to do a little investigative work.

    Not surprisingly, a lot of the captions are ambiguous or downright wrong on those LIFE images. The last one linked in the main entry says “Hoosier basketball player Arley Andrews (31) going up for the lay-up during the high school game while the ref is looking on.”

    Two things: 1) that is clearly an NCAA game between Indiana and Kansas State. 2) Arley Andrews played for Indiana State, not IU. Also, he didn’t graduate high school until 1954. His twin brother Harley went to Lousiville, so it can’t be him, either.

    I’m 99% certain that the player in the photo is Dick Farley, who did wear #31 for the Hoosiers in 1953. You can clearly see the 3 and a little bit of the 1 here. The 1 is a little bit easier to see here (Farley’s hunched down between coach Branch McCracken and the player wearing #25, identified in the caption as Burke Scott).

    I guess the caption mixup was due to the similarities between Arley and Farley.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    here’s an 82 fleer card pic of a pullover-style twins home uni with dark cleats
    http://twinscards.co...

    check out the snap-back adjustable cap on this guy
    http://twinscards.co...

    82 donruss card of a guy wearing the mauer helmet
    http://twinscards.co...

    however, another 82 donruss card of a guy wearing the red helmet
    http://twinscards.co...

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”301210″]It’s hard to find images of those 82 home Twins uniforms in the Metrodome. Most images I find are the powder blue road unis.

    Here’s a pic of Kirby as a rookie in the dome, but you can’t see what color his shoes are.

    http://blogs.citypag...

    He has dark cleats in this 84 pic from spring training, but it’s hard to say if he’s wearing white or blue pants.

    http://caimages.coll...

    I can check when I get home, but the last red shoes may have been as far back as 1979. I do know they were gone by the 1981 home opener at old Met Stadium because I went to it, seeing as it was the last home opener outdoors and I hadn’t been to one in years…and I also remember Ken Landreaux had his black shoes spatted up with white tape.

    I have the first home opener in the Metrodome on videotape, too. Have watched parts of it several times. Against Seattle. Twins in red hats, black shoes.

    —Ricko

  • u2-horn | November 21, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”301192″]On that last link in the ticker, why is crab cakes in quotes?

    “Here, have some ‘crab cakes.'” Umm … pass?[/quote]

    funny blog on this phenomenon

    http://quotation-mar...

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    OK, one more and then I’m done…

    Could the reason that the umps are wearing different jackets be that the photo was taken during the 1945 World Series and one ump was from the AL and the other from the NL?

  • u2-horn | November 21, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”301163″]Check out this eBay find… Does anyone really believe this is Tony Romo’s letterman’s jacket from Eastern Illinois? http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    some sleuthing revealed a woman named Tiffany Kamykowski who has a username “tsarcelli” on this page, which matches the ebay seller

    http://www.ectoconne...

    Googling Tiffany Kamykowski reveals two items which link her to Illinois

    a Reunion.com page lists her as 29 years old from Illinois (Tony is 28):

    http://www.reunion.c...

    And a photo caption of a Tiffany Kamykowski describing her as a bartender in Chicago

    http://www2.ljworld....

  • Silver Salmon | November 21, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    I love sleeved boys’ basketball jerseys, as Clemson was wearing. Sleeves need to make a comeback. But I am also very partial to unusual illegal numbers. I’m just wondering how in the world NC State decided upon unis numbers in the 70s and 80s.

  • Luther Mahoney | November 21, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    Re.:Philadelphia Flyers throwbacks

    The reason why the nameplates on the Flyers’
    jerseys were white with black letters was for the
    requirements of network television. In the early
    1970s-which these Flyers’throwbacks are based on-
    NHL teams were not required to put the names on the back of their jerseys. A few teams,including the Flyers and the Rangers,did have the names on the back of their home white jerseys but that was more the exception than the rule. NBC which had the network television rights during that period,broadcast Sunday afternoon games after the NFL season. To better identify the players to the American audience,the network wanted the teams to put the names on the jerseys for their broadcasts. Therefore,teams either had
    different sets of jerseys for their NBC appearances and for their regular games.
    Appearently,the Flyers’nameplate was probably
    a rush job that they came up with on short notice.
    I remember that they only wore those nameplates
    during the 1974 and 1975 seasons. In later seasons,they would just used white letters for their names.
    I am interested to hear more about this story.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 21, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”301217″]OK, one more and then I’m done…

    Could the reason that the umps are wearing different jackets be that the photo was taken during the 1945 World Series and one ump was from the AL and the other from the NL?[/quote]

    Probably not, since they’re playing the Cardinals. That’s two NL teams.

    http://images.google...

  • Mike | November 21, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    I’m not sure if this has been posted in any of the comments recently but George Mason has a new .

    There is a contest to name the new one.

    He replaces this scary

  • The Ol Goaler | November 21, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    Those college hockey shots reminded me of Eddie Shore, shown shaking hands with “Ace” Bailey. Shore had ended Bailey’s career (and nearly his life) by hitting Bailey from behind… Bailey suffered a fractured skull when his head hit the ice. Shore was also injured when he was knocked to the ice in retaliation, and began wearing a helmet (such as it was) thereafter.

    Jacques Plante kept improving his masks to the very end of his career. Today’s goalies owe “Jake the Snake” a debt of gratitude for their continued health!

  • Mike | November 21, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    Sorry I had no idea how to do the tags for the last post…George Mason has a new mascot (in the first link) and the 2nd link is the old one.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    Another College Basketball find:

    Add Princeton to the short list of schools using Nikes’ “Colorado” template.

    Colorado:
    http://bleacherrepor...

    Princeton:
    http://www.nmnathlet...

    While I was on the Princeton site perusing hoops pics, I found some more pics of Princetons’ stellar football unis, which are my favoirte in the NCAA.

    Orange Alternate Top with Black Pants:

    http://www.goprincet...

    White Top with White Pants:

    http://www.goprincet...

    Black Top with White Pants:

    http://www.goprincet...

    Black Top with Black Pants:

    http://www.goprincet...

    http://cache.nmn.spe...

    White Top with Black Pants:

    http://www.goprincet...

    It seems that their white and orange jerseys have additional piping and the side panel treatment but the black jersey is kept simple, without the extra adornments.

    Does anyone know why?

  • Priest | November 21, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    Is that Rangers jersey from Remembrance Day last year, or the Memorial Cup? There is a Mem Cup patch on their shoulders, although they hosted last year so it could’ve been there all season. However, the beards and mohawk lead me to believe it would be the Memorial Cup. Not that it makes a huge difference.

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”301221″][quote comment=”301217″]OK, one more and then I’m done…

    Could the reason that the umps are wearing different jackets be that the photo was taken during the 1945 World Series and one ump was from the AL and the other from the NL?[/quote]

    Probably not, since they’re playing the Cardinals. That’s two NL teams.

    http://images.google...
    yeah, I wasn’t really sure if those pics in the “related images” section were actually from the same game or if they’re just related because they’re pictures taken in Wrigley Field in 1945.

    Anyway, I ran across this infamous pic during my search for ’45 Series images.

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    Worst picture in the history of Life?

    http://images.google...

  • Wade Harder | November 21, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    Anybody watch the 2K Sports Classic last night and notice the “pop up” State Farm sticker on the floor? From above the sticker/logo looks distorted, but from the main TV camera perspective, it appears to be standing upright on top of the court. Sorry, no screen grab.

  • Johnny O | November 21, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    Paul, I am all for getting LIFE to include their print ads from their magazines. That would be absolutely amazing, but on the same note may end my note taking on every single LIFE print ad. (Long story why I am doing that, so I won’t go into it) But it would be amazing nevertheless. Is there a way we can start a petition on that?

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”301228″]Worst picture in the history of Life?

    http://images.google...

    Life is only the chronicler of events. You can’t blame them for the subjects they cover.

    It was a dark, dark day in American history.

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    Holy crap, this is in my neighborhood, like within a 2 square mile area. I’m considering finding the location for a side by side, 59 years later.

    http://images.google...

  • Dan | November 21, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    Notes from a Michigan Uniwatch fan:

    The Central Michigan football jerseys were terrible! Don’t wear them again!

    The Red Wings/Oilers game last night was very attractive to the eye. The Oilers blue/orange color combination was one of my favorite of the 80’s and 90’s, along with the Kings black/silver set. Please Edmonton go back to the old school colors!

  • Shawn Knowles | November 21, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    for some reason i can’t link anything, and dont remember my html. But check out the front page of my newspaper this morning:

    http://digital.winds...

  • u2-horn | November 21, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    question for everyone I meant to ask earlier in the week–

    I noticed Terrell Owens was wearing a visor shield against the Redskins last Sunday, but I can’t really remember him wearing one before. Anyone know why he was wearing one? Has he worn one before?

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • u2-horn | November 21, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”301232″]Holy crap, this is in my neighborhood, like within a 2 square mile area. I’m considering finding the location for a side by side, 59 years later.

    http://images.google...

    No shit? I grew up on Paris Ave. and was born at Swedish-American.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”301227″][quote comment=”301221″][quote comment=”301217″]OK, one more and then I’m done…

    Could the reason that the umps are wearing different jackets be that the photo was taken during the 1945 World Series and one ump was from the AL and the other from the NL?[/quote]

    Probably not, since they’re playing the Cardinals. That’s two NL teams.

    http://images.google...
    yeah, I wasn’t really sure if those pics in the “related images” section were actually from the same game or if they’re just related because they’re pictures taken in Wrigley Field in 1945.

    Anyway, I ran across this infamous pic during my search for ’45 Series images.[/quote]

    I was thinking that the difference in jackets was a direct effect of the difference between base and plate umpires.

    The plate umpires’ jacket would have needed to be more loose, to accommodate a chest protector

    However, back then didn’t plate umpires use the handheld protective shield?

  • Scott Little | November 21, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    Good bowling pics!

    In the bowling pic with the guy holding his nose, there’s a guy sitting over by the window-A FOUL JUDGE. They actually had to pay a guy to yell-OVER THE LINE SMOKEY! MARK IT ZERO.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”301218″][quote comment=”301163″]Check out this eBay find… Does anyone really believe this is Tony Romo’s letterman’s jacket from Eastern Illinois? http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    some sleuthing revealed a woman named Tiffany Kamykowski who has a username “tsarcelli” on this page, which matches the ebay seller

    http://www.ectoconne...

    Googling Tiffany Kamykowski reveals two items which link her to Illinois

    a Reunion.com page lists her as 29 years old from Illinois (Tony is 28):

    http://www.reunion.c...

    And a photo caption of a Tiffany Kamykowski describing her as a bartender in Chicago

    http://www2.ljworld....

    That detective work is up there with me calling equipment managers!

  • u2-horn | November 21, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”301228″]Worst picture in the history of Life?

    http://images.google...

    I’m gonna go with this one (NOT WORK SAFE!)

    http://images.google...

  • Paul Lukas | November 21, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”301238″]They actually had to pay a guy to yell-OVER THE LINE SMOKEY! MARK IT ZERO.[/quote]

    Comment of the day.

  • Dave V. | November 21, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    As alluded to before, I am hoping that the Twins players who “Get it®” will wear the proper hosiery with the throwbacks.

    On another note (or call it gripe), each time I see something that features the new Vikings font, I cringe a little. Was on eBay after looking at the Tony Romo jacket and searched for some classic Vikings items and found this:

    Vikings sweater

    I love that old Vikings font…and the new one that can be seen Chris Creamer’s site is just so blah…

    Sorry, rant/gripe over…carry on. Paul, thanks again for posting this Life info…great way to get through the rest of the day.

  • Teebz | November 21, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”301226″]Is that Rangers jersey from Remembrance Day last year, or the Memorial Cup? There is a Mem Cup patch on their shoulders, although they hosted last year so it could’ve been there all season. However, the beards and mohawk lead me to believe it would be the Memorial Cup. Not that it makes a huge difference.[/quote]

    That’s absolutely correct, Priest. Those are the throwback jerseys worn for the Memorial Cup.

    The town of Kitchener was originally called Berlin due to the number of German immigrants that settled there between 1870 and 1913. However, when the First World War began, the city’s population sought to change the name in order to separate themselves from the countries that opposed Canada. In 1916, Berlin changed its name to Kitchener after Boer War hero Field Marshal Horatio Herbert Kitchener. Kitchener is still a big military city in Canada, and the jerseys were to honour the men and women who had served so patriotically in the armed forces throughout the ages. The poppy was for those buried at Flanders Field.

    Their previous Remembrance Day jerseys were these, worn last season.

  • Joe Hilseberg | November 21, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    All of the current Mike Mussina HOF debates have meant a lot of pictures have been running of him (see today’s ticker) and through this I have been able to find soomething I have been looking for forever!

    In 1996 the 5’s on O’s jerseys were accidentally made using an upside down and backward 2 pattern. It drove me nuts because this was done by Russell and there was nothing we could do to fix it.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Correct style
    http://www.baltimore...

  • Roger Faso | November 21, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?

  • Mike | November 21, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    Wouldn’t be surprised a lot of color-on-color games from Oklahoma State this year. New coach Travis Ford seems pretty intent on having the team wear orange at home, and since that’s a color distinct from every other team we host this year (minus Texas), then I’d expect the trend will continue on through conference play.

  • Kyle | November 21, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    Re: Check out the yard markers here

    Did anyone get a look at the refs outfit in this picture?

    I could swear those are sailor outfits….

    Thanks Paul!

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”301241″][quote comment=”301238″]They actually had to pay a guy to yell-OVER THE LINE SMOKEY! MARK IT ZERO.[/quote]

    Comment of the day.[/quote]

    Forgive me, for I know nothing of bowling thus I didn’t see that shadowy figure in the background, but that is HYSTERICAL.

    As for the Bowling scoreboard: I can only imagine the bitching, complaining, and treasure trove of excuses that would be heard if an employee today was asked to set up and maintain this:

    http://images.google...

    BTW, these photogenic kids turned out to be none other than:

    Young 1:

    http://images.google...

    Young 2:

    http://images.google...

    http://img2.timeinc....

  • Ben K | November 21, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    I hate to ruin everyone’s day, but the Sharks just unveiled their black jersey.

    http://sharks.nhl.co...

    And, SHOCKER, they go with the laced collar. I’m sorry guys. No really, I am.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    BTW…for all of you UW movie buffs.

    I bit the bullet and rented “Bull Durham”, “Slap Shot” and “Fargo” from the library.

    Now all I need to do is lengthen the day to 34 hours and I might find a chance to watch them.

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”301236″][quote comment=”301232″]Holy crap, this is in my neighborhood, like within a 2 square mile area. I’m considering finding the location for a side by side, 59 years later.

    http://images.google...

    No shit? I grew up on Paris Ave. and was born at Swedish-American.[/quote]

    I live on Minnesota Dr. and was also born at Swedes. But for insurance reasons had to have my daughter delivered at Memorial, that’s right, I had to drive past a hospital to get to the hospital.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    Go here…
    http://ebbets.com/
    and check out the Vintage Football Jerseys.

  • Roger Faso | November 21, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”301252″][quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    Go here…
    http://ebbets.com/
    and check out the Vintage Football Jerseys.[/quote]

    They had Boston Shamrock jerseys. No mention of Chicago Shamrocks. Nor did the team description mention a move to Chicago.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”301253″][quote comment=”301252″][quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    Go here…
    http://ebbets.com/
    and check out the Vintage Football Jerseys.[/quote]

    They had Boston Shamrock jerseys. No mention of Chicago Shamrocks. Nor did the team description mention a move to Chicago.[/quote]

    Opps, (premature sendification) meant to include maybe the Chicago version is some sort of harkback from a latter day semi-pro league team.

  • Paul Lukas | November 21, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    There was also a Chicago Shamrocks football team back in the ’30s. I have an Ebbets Field Flannels repro of one of their jerseys:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Roger Faso | November 21, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”301253″][quote comment=”301252″][quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    Go here…
    http://ebbets.com/
    and check out the Vintage Football Jerseys.[/quote]

    They had Boston Shamrock jerseys. No mention of Chicago Shamrocks. Nor did the team description mention a move to Chicago.[/quote]

    There is record of a Chicago Shamrocks football team here …

    http://www.profootba...

    However, it’s from 1932. That hat and logo is definately not from the 30’s.

    Mysterious.

  • Roger Faso | November 21, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”301256″][quote comment=”301253″][quote comment=”301252″][quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    Go here…
    http://ebbets.com/
    and check out the Vintage Football Jerseys.[/quote]

    They had Boston Shamrock jerseys. No mention of Chicago Shamrocks. Nor did the team description mention a move to Chicago.[/quote]

    There is record of a Chicago Shamrocks football team here …

    http://www.profootba...

    However, it’s from 1932. That hat and logo is definately not from the 30’s.

    Mysterious.[/quote]

    I found a possible clue on wikipedia.

    “In March of 1987, Finley proposed a new football league. The league would merge with the Canadian Football League, and be renamed the North American Football League. The American cities would be made up of those that lost out on the United States Football League folding. The idea never got past the planning stages.”

  • Matt | November 21, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    I don’t think that handwriting is for the seating sections. I think it is to reference where the boards go when they take them down and then set them back up. Otherwise those sections are tiny (like 2 or 3 seats across).

  • Kek | November 21, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”301215″][quote comment=”301210″]It’s hard to find images of those 82 home Twins uniforms in the Metrodome. Most images I find are the powder blue road unis.

    Here’s a pic of Kirby as a rookie in the dome, but you can’t see what color his shoes are.

    http://blogs.citypag...

    He has dark cleats in this 84 pic from spring training, but it’s hard to say if he’s wearing white or blue pants.

    http://caimages.coll...

    I can check when I get home, but the last red shoes may have been as far back as 1979. I do know they were gone by the 1981 home opener at old Met Stadium because I went to it, seeing as it was the last home opener outdoors and I hadn’t been to one in years…and I also remember Ken Landreaux had his black shoes spatted up with white tape.

    I have the first home opener in the Metrodome on videotape, too. Have watched parts of it several times. Against Seattle. Twins in red hats, black shoes.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    In “The Bronx Zoo” Sparky Lyle tells a story about Billy Martin protesting a game or something because they were playing the Twins and their pitcher had on red cleats while everyone else was wearing black, thus he was out of uniform. That book chronicled the ’78 season.

  • Dave | November 21, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    speaking of georgia tech…some folks were….they’ve really gone south with their football uniforms this year. just an awful template and the gold looks weird. they had classic uniforms a few years back, and when they busted out the white helmets on a thurs. night ESPN game vs. virginia, those looked phenomenal. now, here’s my gripe – why do they never where navy blue jerseys in basketball or football? i miss the days of kenny anderson, with those sweet unis….and i can’t even remember the last time they wore blue jerseys in football, but i know they used to. i don’t agree with this move at all. bring back the blue.

  • Roger Faso | November 21, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”301257″][quote comment=”301256″][quote comment=”301253″][quote comment=”301252″][quote comment=”301245″]Check out this photo of former Oakland A’s owner, Charlie Finley …

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    He’s wearing a Chicago Shamrocks hat. I looked up the Shamrocks and they were a hockey team. However, the logo on his hat is a football.

    What is that all about?[/quote]

    Go here…
    http://ebbets.com/
    and check out the Vintage Football Jerseys.[/quote]

    They had Boston Shamrock jerseys. No mention of Chicago Shamrocks. Nor did the team description mention a move to Chicago.[/quote]

    There is record of a Chicago Shamrocks football team here …

    http://www.profootba...

    However, it’s from 1932. That hat and logo is definately not from the 30’s.

    Mysterious.[/quote]

    I found a possible clue on wikipedia.

    “In March of 1987, Finley proposed a new football league. The league would merge with the Canadian Football League, and be renamed the North American Football League. The American cities would be made up of those that lost out on the United States Football League folding. The idea never got past the planning stages.”[/quote]

    According to this archive …

    http://www.birmingha...

    … he was planning to own the Chicago franchise.

    My guess is that he had a logo drawn up and a hat made.

    Idn’t that nice.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    I found a possible clue on wikipedia.

    “In March of 1987, Finley proposed a new football league. The league would merge with the Canadian Football League, and be renamed the North American Football League. The American cities would be made up of those that lost out on the United States Football League folding. The idea never got past the planning stages.”

    Good job. Cuz that logo did have the thrown-together look of something like that…and it’s kelly and gold, a Finley fixation.

    Remember when the bought ABA Memphis Tams? Changed colors from red, white and blue to kelly and gold. Tams had all-white, all-kelly and all-gold sets and interchanged them like crazy. Good luck finding photos, though. Don’t think the papers cared enough to send photographers to the games, LOL.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    Sometimes players on the same team wore different COLOR shoes! Say, some in black, some i white, maybe a couple in red (49ers, for ex.). And players would even wear different BRANDS! I mean you’d see, like, adidas, puma and riddell on the SAME TEAM! It was HORRIBLE!

    “Dogs and cats, living together!”
    —Peter Venkman

  • Jon | November 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    Yet another example of Boston using the upside down 8. I am a local Boston guy and i just wanted to add that it happens all the time around here. Almost all of the gas stations(gas is in the 1.80’s-1.90’s) use the 8’s upside down around here. i never noticed it until i started to hear about it on UW.

  • Tim | November 21, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”301260″]speaking of georgia tech…some folks were….they’ve really gone south with their football uniforms this year. just an awful template and the gold looks weird. they had classic uniforms a few years back, and when they busted out the white helmets on a thurs. night ESPN game vs. virginia, those looked phenomenal. now, here’s my gripe – why do they never where navy blue jerseys in basketball or football? i miss the days of kenny anderson, with those sweet unis….and i can’t even remember the last time they wore blue jerseys in football, but i know they used to. i don’t agree with this move at all. bring back the blue.[/quote]

    If memory serves, Tech won the National Championship in 1991 under Bobby Ross.

    http://photicus.file...

    I don’t think so.

    William Bell was the tailback and Marco Coleman and Coleman Rudolph were their outstanding defensive lineman.

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Kenny Anderson. Brian Oliver, and Dennis Scott were excellent together playing for Bobby Cremins.

    I was first beginning to watch basketball when they were in college, so my memories of them are quite vivid.

    http://cms.images.mo...

    The three of them always wore great Nike shoes like the Air Flight 89:

    http://kmodak.com/im...

    Air Bound:

    http://graphics.fans...

    Mystery: What, or who is the mourning band commemorating in this pic?

    http://kennyanderson...

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?

  • The Hemogoblin | November 21, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    Mostly because when the NFL fines people for sock infringements, it generally makes them look like douchebags.

    The NFL does go way too far though.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    What’s up with Chicago’s NOB?

    I went to that Google portal, and searched football in the 1940’s. It can’t be in the 1940s though, because it’s color with NOB.

    Still, I really like these Bears NOBs, and if Chicago ever did throwbacks, I’d nominate these to be the uniforms thrown back to. They’re brilliant.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    no…i WANT the sock police…it’s a team game…not 11 “i”s

    /didn’t even like broadway joe sporting the white shoes way back when
    //but, im prolly in the minority here
    ///GOML

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”301237″]I was thinking that the difference in jackets was a direct effect of the difference between base and plate umpires.

    The plate umpires’ jacket would have needed to be more loose, to accommodate a chest protector

    However, back then didn’t plate umpires use the handheld protective shield?[/quote]
    I actually had the exact same line of reasoning on this at first. On second thought, it does make sense that the home ump would wear a different jacket. External chest protector or not, he’d want one that was better for crouching behind the catcher.

  • odessasteps magazine | November 21, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    that’s a great price for Crab Cakes. of course, they likely were not made with Old Bay (aka MD style) and thus, automatically inferior. :>

  • The Hemogoblin | November 21, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    Check out this picture of Michigan/Ohio State.

    Look at how dark the blue is, and how the helmet’s stripes are actually GOLD, not yellow.

    Also, I dig the facemask-free helmets and the numbers on Michigan’s uniforms.

    Check out the socks for both teams, and also look at Michigan’s jersey. Maybe they should go back to having that stripe on their regular jersey.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”301269″][quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    Mostly because when the NFL fines people for sock infringements, it generally makes them look like douchebags.

    The NFL does go way too far though.[/quote]

    Exactly. I mean…they are socks. I could understand if they were trying to alter the team logo or change the helmet / jersey or something…..but socks?

    It just seems pretty petty, to me. Everyone always loves in on here when someone adds stripes or some such thing to their socks. Why can’t they wear socks up / down / sideway / who cares, I guess?

    Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”301270″]What’s up with Chicago’s NOB?

    I went to that Google portal, and searched football in the 1940’s. It can’t be in the 1940s though, because it’s color with NOB.

    Still, I really like these Bears NOBs, and if Chicago ever did throwbacks, I’d nominate these to be the uniforms thrown back to. They’re brilliant.[/quote]
    That’s definitely 1970 — first year for NOBs and last year for Wrigley Field.

    But what am I missing here? What is it you like so much better about that style than what they’re wearing now? The width of the letters?

  • The Hemogoblin | November 21, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”301276″][quote comment=”301270″]What’s up with Chicago’s NOB?

    I went to that Google portal, and searched football in the 1940’s. It can’t be in the 1940s though, because it’s color with NOB.

    Still, I really like these Bears NOBs, and if Chicago ever did throwbacks, I’d nominate these to be the uniforms thrown back to. They’re brilliant.[/quote]
    That’s definitely 1970 — first year for NOBs and last year for Wrigley Field.

    But what am I missing here? What is it you like so much better about that style than what they’re wearing now? The width of the letters?[/quote]

    Width, white C on helmet, and the white/gray facemask (I can’t tell, don’t remember offhand).

  • mark in cincy | November 21, 2008 at 1:50 pm |

    thanks for the productivity killer there Paul, but this makes up for yesterday’s snow day … in the day of personalized eye-black stickers, how awesome is this picture?

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”301277″]
    Width, white C on helmet, and the white/gray facemask (I can’t tell, don’t remember offhand).[/quote]
    Ah, I thought you were talking specifically about the nameplates.

    A jersey with actual sleeves a nice touch, too.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 21, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”301279″][quote comment=”301277″]
    Width, white C on helmet, and the white/gray facemask (I can’t tell, don’t remember offhand).[/quote]
    Ah, I thought you were talking specifically about the nameplates.

    A jersey with actual sleeves a nice touch, too.[/quote]

    I really think they should move the TV numbers to the shoulders so we can still see the stripes.

    Don’t think Halas wanted to be memorialized by having his initials in someone’s armpit.

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”301275″][quote comment=”301269″][quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    Mostly because when the NFL fines people for sock infringements, it generally makes them look like douchebags.

    The NFL does go way too far though.[/quote]

    Exactly. I mean…they are socks. I could understand if they were trying to alter the team logo or change the helmet / jersey or something…..but socks?

    It just seems pretty petty, to me. Everyone always loves in on here when someone adds stripes or some such thing to their socks. Why can’t they wear socks up / down / sideway / who cares, I guess?

    Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?[/quote]

    I’m sorry, but wanting a uniform to look uniform isn’t an example of “douche-baggery”. I’d argue the exact opposite is true. I like sock stripes as much as the next guy, but filling your leg with them is about the biggest look-at-me, douchebag move a player can make(uni-wise) and still be allowed to take the field. It’s a team game, dammit.

  • mark in cincy | November 21, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    are there 3 different 66es in this picture or just 2 (i can’t tell if the sleeve numbers match the back)?

  • u2-horn | November 21, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”301251″][quote comment=”301236″][quote comment=”301232″]Holy crap, this is in my neighborhood, like within a 2 square mile area. I’m considering finding the location for a side by side, 59 years later.

    http://images.google...

    No shit? I grew up on Paris Ave. and was born at Swedish-American.[/quote]

    I live on Minnesota Dr. and was also born at Swedes. But for insurance reasons had to have my daughter delivered at Memorial, that’s right, I had to drive past a hospital to get to the hospital.[/quote]

    Small world, huh?

    I went back and found an old post of yours talking about the ERABs–both my Mom and Dad went to East.

    And if “ERABs” is a bad nickname, how about the Freeport Pretzels–Preston Pearson’s ala mater?!

    http://www.freeportp...

  • mark in cincy | November 21, 2008 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”301282″]are there 3 different 66es in this picture or just 2 (i can’t tell if the sleeve numbers match the back)?[/quote]
    bad link, try this

  • JTH | November 21, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”301280″][quote comment=”301279″][quote comment=”301277″]
    Width, white C on helmet, and the white/gray facemask (I can’t tell, don’t remember offhand).[/quote]
    Ah, I thought you were talking specifically about the nameplates.

    A jersey with actual sleeves a nice touch, too.[/quote]

    I really think they should move the TV numbers to the shoulders so we can still see the stripes.

    Don’t think Halas wanted to be memorialized by having his initials in someone’s armpit.[/quote]
    I’ve thought about that. Only problem is that you’ll probably just end up with something like this anyway, so I say keep ’em where they are.

  • mark in cincy | November 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    last picture, as i have to actually do work, but check this out, my how innovation has changed the game, eh?

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote]I’m sorry, but wanting a uniform to look uniform isn’t an example of “douche-baggery”. I’d argue the exact opposite is true. I like sock stripes as much as the next guy, but filling your leg with them is about the biggest look-at-me, douchebag move a player can make(uni-wise) and still be allowed to take the field. It’s a team game, dammit.[/quote]

    THANK YOU duck…you and i agree on something? (actually, i think we always agreed on this)…

    i’ve said this before and i’ll say it again, uniforms should be…well..uniform…i hate the pajama pant look in baseball but i’d rather 9 guys all wear that than have a bunch of short pant, long pant, stirruped, non-stirruped, flat brim, curved brim, baggy shirt, tight shirt mismatched misfits

  • LarenR | November 21, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”301282″]are there 3 different 66es in this picture or just 2 (i can’t tell if the sleeve numbers match the back)?[/quote]
    Looks to me like the big 66 and TV numbers are the same.

    But on that 1970 Bears pic, are there players wearing different colored masks? Most look grey, but the player facing the camera over the runner’s back, seems to be wearing a white facemask.

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 21, 2008 at 2:06 pm |

    While looking at some West Virginia pictures in the Life archive, I came across this beautiful photo….
    http://images.google...

    After reading the caption, I was just wondering why Ford wouldn’t have been allowed back in the game. Anybody have any ideas?

  • Conner | November 21, 2008 at 2:06 pm |

    Georgia Tech wore the navy unis last in the ACC Championship game against Wake Forest two years ago. I agree that they look good, but navy is NOT one of our primary colors. Navy is, and always has been, a trim color and us switching to navy unis would be like any other team switching to black…completely stupid. We do have a navy uni in the new set, but it has not been brought out yet this year.

  • Sean | November 21, 2008 at 2:07 pm |

    Anyone see the UCLA-Michigan game last night? Great game, and even more beautiful. Yeah, Michigan’s got the basketball equivalent of the Reebox on the back, but considering the way most other teams look these days, this was just plain nice to see.

    Here’s a good one…

    …and another…

    …doesn’t it just warm your heart?

  • scott | November 21, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”301246″]Wouldn’t be surprised a lot of color-on-color games from Oklahoma State this year. New coach Travis Ford seems pretty intent on having the team wear orange at home, and since that’s a color distinct from every other team we host this year (minus Texas), then I’d expect the trend will continue on through conference play.[/quote]

    Why would Ford want the team wearing orange at home?

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”301275″][quote comment=”301269″][quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    Mostly because when the NFL fines people for sock infringements, it generally makes them look like douchebags.

    The NFL does go way too far though.[/quote]

    Exactly. I mean…they are socks. I could understand if they were trying to alter the team logo or change the helmet / jersey or something…..but socks?

    It just seems pretty petty, to me. Everyone always loves in on here when someone adds stripes or some such thing to their socks. Why can’t they wear socks up / down / sideway / who cares, I guess?

    Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?[/quote]

    Using this site as my source, I have often read that it is Reebok, the uniform provider, that forces the NFL to be so strict with their uniform policing.

    If the players don’t wear the vectors’ swag correctly, fans won’t buy it!

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm |

    Wow! Not uni related, but wow nonetheless.

    http://images.google...

    That’s West Virginia in one photo. Love that dinner bucket!!

  • L. D. - Belgium | November 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm |

    In regard to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers original colours – what I read (albeit 30 yrs ago in Sports Illustrated), was their original choice was light green and orange. That this choice was rejected by NFL properties, for being too similar to the Dolphins. As to what exactly light greeen the Buccaneers were thinking of, that’s what I’ve always wondered about, after all light green is not exactly a common choice for a team colour.

    The only example I can think of is the NY Liberty. The Dolphins are obviously close to light green with their choice of aqua , which hopefully does not disappear – with their rumoured uniform change for next season.

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”301287″][quote]I’m sorry, but wanting a uniform to look uniform isn’t an example of “douche-baggery”. I’d argue the exact opposite is true. I like sock stripes as much as the next guy, but filling your leg with them is about the biggest look-at-me, douchebag move a player can make(uni-wise) and still be allowed to take the field. It’s a team game, dammit.[/quote]

    THANK YOU duck…you and i agree on something? (actually, i think we always agreed on this)…

    i’ve said this before and i’ll say it again, uniforms should be…well..uniform…i hate the pajama pant look in baseball but i’d rather 9 guys all wear that than have a bunch of short pant, long pant, stirruped, non-stirruped, flat brim, curved brim, baggy shirt, tight shirt mismatched misfits[/quote]

    Sorta, I should have specified that I’m a hypocrite and I adore cuffed pants high socks in baseball, and I actually have convinced myself that those are the “normal” guys within uniform boundaries, and the pajama pants guys are the d-bags. BTW, when did douchebag become the only available slang term for pricks/a-holes/jerkoffs/girlfriend’s ex’s etc? I always liked it myself, but now it seems overdone. I’m going back to my old standby, ass-jacket. It’s so good, It doesn’t need to make sense.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”301291″]Anyone see the UCLA-Michigan game last night? Great game, and even more beautiful. Yeah, Michigan’s got the basketball equivalent of the Reebox on the back, but considering the way most other teams look these days, this was just plain nice to see.

    Here’s a good one…

    …and another…

    …doesn’t it just warm your heart?[/quote]

    Those pics definitely DO NOT warm my heart.

    UCLAs’ uniforms are classic however their white socks with black shoes is one of my biggest uniform pet peeves.

    Michigan on the other hand really saddens me. I mentioned this past weekend that the Fab Five and their uniforms were my first uni obsession.

    Their defection to Adidas, in combination with that of Kansas has truly broken my heart.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote]If the players don’t wear the vectors’ swag correctly, fans won’t buy it![/quote]

    are a lot of people buying official nfl socks? is this really a hot item?

  • Juan Grande | November 21, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”301296″][quote comment=”301287″][quote]I’m sorry, but wanting a uniform to look uniform isn’t an example of “douche-baggery”. I’d argue the exact opposite is true. I like sock stripes as much as the next guy, but filling your leg with them is about the biggest look-at-me, douchebag move a player can make(uni-wise) and still be allowed to take the field. It’s a team game, dammit.[/quote]

    THANK YOU duck…you and i agree on something? (actually, i think we always agreed on this)…

    i’ve said this before and i’ll say it again, uniforms should be…well..uniform…i hate the pajama pant look in baseball but i’d rather 9 guys all wear that than have a bunch of short pant, long pant, stirruped, non-stirruped, flat brim, curved brim, baggy shirt, tight shirt mismatched misfits[/quote]

    Sorta, I should have specified that I’m a hypocrite and I adore cuffed pants high socks in baseball, and I actually have convinced myself that those are the “normal” guys within uniform boundaries, and the pajama pants guys are the d-bags. BTW, when did douchebag become the only available slang term for pricks/a-holes/jerkoffs/girlfriend’s ex’s etc? I always liked it myself, but now it seems overdone. I’m going back to my old standby, ass-jacket. It’s so good, It doesn’t need to make sense.[/quote]

    I’ve always liked “assclown” personally.

  • Beardface | November 21, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    Virginia Tech is going with an interesting uniform combination tomorrow night against Duke…

    Orange tops, maroon pants… Check out ESPNU at 5:30EST to see for yourself

    Speaking of ESPNU and VT, the VT men’s basketball team is wearing their maroon away jerseys right now against Xavier… they look… interesting…

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”301274″]Check out this picture of Michigan/Ohio State.

    Look at how dark the blue is, and how the helmet’s stripes are actually GOLD, not yellow.

    Also, I dig the facemask-free helmets and the numbers on Michigan’s uniforms.

    Check out the socks for both teams, and also look at Michigan’s jersey. Maybe they should go back to having that stripe on their regular jersey.[/quote]

    While we’re on the subject of uniform, uh, uniformity, check out the Michigan-TOSU picture.

    Only #66 and the center are wearing the striped socks.

    Based on the quarterback, it seems that the front section of the helmet wing is missing.

    Again, look at #66 and compare his number font to that of the running back.

  • union jack | November 21, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    “Awesome youth roller hockey photo here, and an even better one here. Honorable mention here.”

    Not 100% certain, but the honorable mention photo appears to be Columbus Circle, with Broadway receding to the north directly behind the monument.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”301298″][quote]If the players don’t wear the vectors’ swag correctly, fans won’t buy it![/quote]

    are a lot of people buying official nfl socks? is this really a hot item?[/quote]

    I would love to jump ugly and staunchly defend my comment.

    But I have to agree…I can’t imagine many fans buying a complete set, as opposed to a team buying in bulk.

  • union jack | November 21, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    Oh, just saw the “related photos” to the right of the image, the youth roller hockey is definitely Columbus Circle.

  • Mike | November 21, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]
    I’d prefer, if they MUST have an alternate, go to the interlocking “NY” and a blue jersey…like they had back in the early 80s for a time.

  • Ron V | November 21, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]

    That would be the minor league Mets. Not sure what city the played in. Anyone?

  • Tyler | November 21, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    As a recent grad of Ball State I’ll put a little bit of history to the “86” on the Cards’ helmets. 4 Years ago when I was a freshman as BSU and the cards won only ONE GAME that year, Dante Love wasn’t just a receiver on the team, he WAS the team, between being the only receiver we had (Ridgeway was gone by this point) and his kick returns he was about the only bright spot in our horrid team. As BSU slowly got better he got better and was always there for a clutch catch or kick return. This year (his senior year and last year) was his ultimate curtain call. Before he went down he lead the nation in yards, caught everything, was Nate Davis’s go-to guy, and was putting the stamp on a great college career and was looking forward to playing on sundays.

    When he went down at IU we didn’t just lose our number one receiver. We lost the heart and soul of our receiving corps, we lost an unapologetic leader who remembers the olden days of Ball State being number one on ESPN’s “Bottom ten” list.

    That small 86 is a very minuscule memorial to a player, leader, and overall GREAT kid (as a student I interacted with him…he’s just a massive goofball). This dream season for us is just a little more tainted with his absence.

    I am sorry this is so long, and I am sure very few of you care about the essay I just wrote…but simply saying “It’s for Dante Love” doesn’t suit the memorial justice.

  • Mike Engle | November 21, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    I read that U Buffalo article during the Uni Watch off day. Saw this photo
    http://assets.espn.g...
    Note the old-timers posing in the modern locker room, along with #81’s altered nameplate.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”301270″]What’s up with Chicago’s NOB?

    I went to that Google portal, and searched football in the 1940’s. It can’t be in the 1940s though, because it’s color with NOB.

    Still, I really like these Bears NOBs, and if Chicago ever did throwbacks, I’d nominate these to be the uniforms thrown back to. They’re brilliant.[/quote]

    Photo is mid-to-late 60’s Shows Lions’ Lem Barney being tackled. Going by the white facemask and its style, the guy behind Barney about to tackle him is Gayle Sayers. #48 is a running back named Ron Smith. So it’s either after an INT or a fumble recovery.

    Is that what you’re trying to figure out?

    —Ricko

  • Mike | November 21, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    http://www.onlinespo... comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]

    Like this, or something to this effect. Doesn’t have to be gray filling, though.

  • TheEHC52 | November 21, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    VFeFrenzy,

    I’m also an Emory alum (’07). I do believe that is our alma mater depicted. I know that back in the late ’40s/early ’50s all pledges had to wear beanies, so that would seem consistent with her choice of headgear. Also, looking at the photo, I’m pretty sure the classroom she is in is on the first floor of Byars, with the window facing Carriger. It was quite a shock for me to open that photo up just now as well.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”301305″][quote comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]
    I’d prefer, if they MUST have an alternate, go to the interlocking “NY” and a blue jersey…like they had back in the early 80s for a time.

    [/quote]

    i don’t think that “M” hat is the parent club…i think it’s one of their minor league affiliates…but i could be wrong

    the second pic shows an away jersey with a patch…1964-5 world’s fair patch? i can’t make it out…but that would narrow down the year

    according to UMDB, “1965: Worlds Fair patch remains on left sleeve of home jersey and right sleeve of road jersey for second and final season.” so…that would make the pic from 1965 and prolly one of those minor league affiliates

  • Beeker | November 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    Reading Paul’s NBA throwback story, I got to thinkin’ – could the MN Timberwolves use the MPLS Lakers throwback, or is that logo/wordmark now ownned by LA?

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”301290″]Georgia Tech wore the navy unis last in the ACC Championship game against Wake Forest two years ago. I agree that they look good, but navy is NOT one of our primary colors. Navy is, and always has been, a trim color and us switching to navy unis would be like any other team switching to black…completely stupid. We do have a navy uni in the new set, but it has not been brought out yet this year.[/quote]

    Here ya’ go:

    http://cache.daylife...

  • TheEHC52 | November 21, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    VFeFrenzy (Part Deux),

    I played around with the URL tags a little. The pics are all from September 1951 and the photographer was George Silk. I also found a pic where a girl is wearing a clear ‘Emory & Henry’ jacket. I highly suggest looking through the gallery. Here’s something to get your appetite whet that you might recognize:

    http://images.google...

  • Jordan | November 21, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”301213″]OK, since I’m not getting a damn thing done at work today, I had to do a little investigative work.

    Not surprisingly, a lot of the captions are ambiguous or downright wrong on those LIFE images. The last one linked in the main entry says “Hoosier basketball player Arley Andrews (31) going up for the lay-up during the high school game while the ref is looking on.”

    Two things: 1) that is clearly an NCAA game between Indiana and Kansas State. 2) Arley Andrews played for Indiana State, not IU. Also, he didn’t graduate high school until 1954. His twin brother Harley went to Lousiville, so it can’t be him, either.

    I’m 99% certain that the player in the photo is Dick Farley, who did wear #31 for the Hoosiers in 1953. You can clearly see the 3 and a little bit of the 1 here. The 1 is a little bit easier to see here (Farley’s hunched down between coach Branch McCracken and the player wearing #25, identified in the caption as Burke Scott).

    I guess the caption mixup was due to the similarities between Arley and Farley.[/quote]

    The location of the photo is also mislabeled as “Sunman, IN” — while it is quite clearly the Old Fieldhouse in the middle of campus in Bloomington.

    If the Hoops Gods smile, one day when the now well dated Assembly Hall is torn down and replaced the Old Fieldhouse will be brought back into use as a temporary home for the Hoosiers.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”301314″][quote comment=”301290″]Georgia Tech wore the navy unis last in the ACC Championship game against Wake Forest two years ago. I agree that they look good, but navy is NOT one of our primary colors. Navy is, and always has been, a trim color and us switching to navy unis would be like any other team switching to black…completely stupid. We do have a navy uni in the new set, but it has not been brought out yet this year.[/quote]

    Here ya’ go:

    http://cache.daylife...

    I found something even better.

    Here is an entire album from the 2006 ACC Championship.

    http://www.accfootba...

    Check out this 50/50 helmet:

    http://www.accfootba...

  • Ron V | November 21, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”301312″][quote comment=”301305″][quote comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]
    I’d prefer, if they MUST have an alternate, go to the interlocking “NY” and a blue jersey…like they had back in the early 80s for a time.

    [/quote]

    i don’t think that “M” hat is the parent club…i think it’s one of their minor league affiliates…but i could be wrong

    the second pic shows an away jersey with a patch…1964-5 world’s fair patch? i can’t make it out…but that would narrow down the year

    according to UMDB, “1965: Worlds Fair patch remains on left sleeve of home jersey and right sleeve of road jersey for second and final season.” so…that would make the pic from 1965 and prolly one of those minor league affiliates[/quote]

    After review it appears that the uni in question is the Marion (Va.) Mets. The story the pics came from are about the manager Birdie Tebbetts of the Marion Mets.

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]

    Never seen that before. Farm club?

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”301318″][quote comment=”301312″][quote comment=”301305″][quote comment=”301266″]I had no idea the mets ever had an “M” logo..

    The cap in this pic
    And even a jersey with the logo here
    Would love to see them wear a throwback of that jersey..[/quote]
    I’d prefer, if they MUST have an alternate, go to the interlocking “NY” and a blue jersey…like they had back in the early 80s for a time.

    [/quote]

    i don’t think that “M” hat is the parent club…i think it’s one of their minor league affiliates…but i could be wrong

    the second pic shows an away jersey with a patch…1964-5 world’s fair patch? i can’t make it out…but that would narrow down the year

    according to UMDB, “1965: Worlds Fair patch remains on left sleeve of home jersey and right sleeve of road jersey for second and final season.” so…that would make the pic from 1965 and prolly one of those minor league affiliates[/quote]

    After review it appears that the uni in question is the Marion (Va.) Mets. The story the pics came from are about the manager Birdie Tebbetts of the Marion Mets.[/quote]
    Ah, makes sense.

    Still, pretty cool.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    A question, because I don’t remember.

    NOB for football was an innovation of the AFL. The leagues “merged” in principle for the ’66 season (which led to first “Super Bowl”), but didn’t realign and begin playing each other until 1970. I do remember that mandatory NOB was a result of the merger. AFL teams already were unanimous in their use…

    But when did it kick in for NFL teams? Must have been ’70 if Bears didn’t have them til then, right?

    —Ricko

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”301275″][quote comment=”301269″][quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    Mostly because when the NFL fines people for sock infringements, it generally makes them look like douchebags.

    The NFL does go way too far though.[/quote]

    Exactly. I mean…they are socks. I could understand if they were trying to alter the team logo or change the helmet / jersey or something…..but socks?

    It just seems pretty petty, to me. Everyone always loves in on here when someone adds stripes or some such thing to their socks. Why can’t they wear socks up / down / sideway / who cares, I guess?

    Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?[/quote]

    The only douche-baggery I see comes from the infants who mess around with their socks in a plea for attention.

    Guess it’s all in your perspective.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”301307″]

    I am sorry this is so long, and I am sure very few of you care about the essay I just wrote…but simply saying “It’s for Dante Love” doesn’t suit the memorial justice.[/quote]

    Tyler, have you read any of our comments today?

    Finding the backstories to all of these incredible pictures has created amost 160 posts today.

    Yours is no different.

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”301321″]A question, because I don’t remember.

    NOB for football was an innovation of the AFL. The leagues “merged” in principle for the ’66 season (which led to first “Super Bowl”), but didn’t realign and begin playing each other until 1970. I do remember that mandatory NOB was a result of the merger. AFL teams already were unanimous in their use…

    But when did it kick in for NFL teams? Must have been ’70 if Bears didn’t have them til then, right?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You’re right – it was instituted League-wide for the 1970 season.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”301287″][quote]I’m sorry, but wanting a uniform to look uniform isn’t an example of “douche-baggery”. I’d argue the exact opposite is true. I like sock stripes as much as the next guy, but filling your leg with them is about the biggest look-at-me, douchebag move a player can make(uni-wise) and still be allowed to take the field. It’s a team game, dammit.[/quote]

    THANK YOU duck…you and i agree on something? (actually, i think we always agreed on this)…

    i’ve said this before and i’ll say it again, uniforms should be…well..uniform…i hate the pajama pant look in baseball but i’d rather 9 guys all wear that than have a bunch of short pant, long pant, stirruped, non-stirruped, flat brim, curved brim, baggy shirt, tight shirt mismatched misfits[/quote]

    I see your point, but to me this just seems like a way to make a better looking product for sales and rights and all that crap that kinda ruins the game. Again, just my opinion.

    I understand that most people think the pros these days do everything for “look at me” value, but a little sock frivolity is different than pulling a sharpie out.

    I don’t know, I just remember players with all sorts of differences in their uniforms on the same team growing up. Different, but the same.

    It worked out okay. No one ever had any serious reprecussions from silly sock action.

    Maybe it’s the concept of fining someone for socks that bothers me, in the end.

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 21, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”301204″]Todays’ entry is by far my new favorite.

    Based on material alone, this will be returned to many times over.

    A few Christmases ago, I bought my wife a great book of William Steichens’ photography and much of this resembles those pics.

    I use this word alot on this site, but crisp is the best adjective I can use to describe the clothing and overall aura of pics like these:

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    Crisp is very appropriate when describing some of those photos. They’re just fantastic!

  • LarenR | November 21, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”301323″][quote comment=”301307″]

    I am sorry this is so long, and I am sure very few of you care about the essay I just wrote…but simply saying “It’s for Dante Love” doesn’t suit the memorial justice.[/quote]

    Tyler, have you read any of our comments today?

    Finding the backstories to all of these incredible pictures has created amost 160 posts today.

    Yours is no different.[/quote]
    I disagree. Yours is better.

  • Jim Bullard | November 21, 2008 at 3:19 pm |

    those Zephyr jerseys the Wizards will be wearing are sweet as hell!!!

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 3:19 pm |

    Re: The Bucs in green and orange, gotta love the SI Vault. Here’s the article:
    The (Seattle team’s name) list was reduced to seven names—Cascades, Evergreens, Mariners, Olympics, Pioneers, Sockeyes and Seahawks—and Seahawks was judged to be most suitable and to have the most graphic potential. The team colors also had to be approved by NFL Creative Services (Tampa’s first choice, orange and pale green, was discarded for being too similar to the Dolphins’ colors). Seattle settled on silver, blue and green, the last two representing the waters and the forests that surround Seattle. And Creative Services came up with a wonderfully fierce Seahawk logo.

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 21, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”301238″]Good bowling pics!

    In the bowling pic with the guy holding his nose, there’s a guy sitting over by the window-A FOUL JUDGE. They actually had to pay a guy to yell-OVER THE LINE SMOKEY! MARK IT ZERO.[/quote]

    No, Scott, those bowling pics are phenomenal!!

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    I cannot express how great I think those are. Just magnificent.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    re: High socks, low socks:

    It strikes me that the NBA and MLB seem to survive giving players a little latitude “from the knees down.” Based, I suppose, on what guys feel comfortable wearing. I dunno, maybe a guy feels faster with more white showing…or thinks he looks taller…who the hell knows.

    Just sayin’ it isn’t really logical that football–both NFL and NCAA–make such big deal out of it when it seems to matter so little in the other two major sports.

    I find it more annoying that Ohio State has two number 2’s and a lot of that goes to high school kids saying, “I’ll play for you, but I gotta have my number 2″…so the NCAA kinda changes a longstanding policy (whether it was a rule or not, you just never saw such at thing…at least not in the 50+ years I’ve been watching football).

    Also, virtually all the NFL uni rules go back to the late 70s, long before Reebok or any other merchandiser had the clout they do today. No slit sleeves, white socks a certain height, tape on shoes must be same color as shoes…all that is late 70s’, early 80’s. I remember Fred Biletnikoff had it in his contract that the Raiders paid the fines for all his uniform violations.

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”301328″][quote comment=”301323″][quote comment=”301307″]

    I am sorry this is so long, and I am sure very few of you care about the essay I just wrote…but simply saying “It’s for Dante Love” doesn’t suit the memorial justice.[/quote]

    Tyler, have you read any of our comments today?

    Finding the backstories to all of these incredible pictures has created amost 160 posts today.

    Yours is no different.[/quote]
    I disagree. Yours is better.[/quote]

    Laren…I don’t see where you were going with that, but maybe my point was misunderstood.

    I was complimenting Tylers’ post.

  • TheEHC52 | November 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    VFeFrenzy (Part Three),

    After I looked through all those photos, I realized they confirmed something I learned my junior year. I was doing an oral history project on the Tangerine Bowl teams and Tammy Farnsworth told me that LIFE came to campus to do a story on the team, but that it was never published. Fifty-seven years later we’ve got the photos!

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”301322″][quote comment=”301275″][quote comment=”301269″][quote comment=”301268″][quote comment=”301263″][quote comment=”301196″]Why the hell do they care so much about what socks a player wears? I mean, I can understand the logo issues, but who gives a damn how high they wear them or what color they are or whatever.

    Way to take any individuality off of the field. Look at the old ’60s and ’70s players and they all did different things. Off all of the issues that the NFL could focus on…why socks?

    /boggle[/quote]

    exactly[/quote]

    I’m confused. We often criticize players like Clinton Portis and his teammates for their sock shenanigans. After reading this post, as well as Phils’ reply, it seems as if this is what is wanted.

    Or is it that you are you protesting the league and their strict management of this individuality?[/quote]

    Mostly because when the NFL fines people for sock infringements, it generally makes them look like douchebags.

    The NFL does go way too far though.[/quote]

    Exactly. I mean…they are socks. I could understand if they were trying to alter the team logo or change the helmet / jersey or something…..but socks?

    It just seems pretty petty, to me. Everyone always loves in on here when someone adds stripes or some such thing to their socks. Why can’t they wear socks up / down / sideway / who cares, I guess?

    Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?[/quote]

    The only douche-baggery I see comes from the infants who mess around with their socks in a plea for attention.

    Guess it’s all in your perspective.[/quote]

    Yes, I guess it is.

    Still seems to me like a way for the No Fun League to make their product look better for next years Madden game.

  • Jimbo | November 21, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”301336″]VFeFrenzy (Part Three),

    After I looked through all those photos, I realized they confirmed something I learned my junior year. I was doing an oral history project on the Tangerine Bowl teams and Tammy Farnsworth told me that LIFE came to campus to do a story on the team, but that it was never published. Fifty-seven years later we’ve got the photos![/quote]

  • chance | November 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”301337″][quote comment=”301322″][quote comment=”301275″]Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?[/quote]

    The only douche-baggery I see comes from the infants who mess around with their socks in a plea for attention.

    Guess it’s all in your perspective.[/quote]

    Yes, I guess it is.

    Still seems to me like a way for the No Fun League to make their product look better for next years Madden game.[/quote]

    ?

    I don’t follow.

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 21, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    More great bowling shirts…

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

    That’s a good lookin’ team!!
    http://images.google...

    Whaddaya know….an Automatic Pin Boy!!
    http://images.google...

    5 Times National Match Games Champion, Marion Ladewig. One of the best women bowlers ever…
    http://images.google...

    Just beautiful….
    http://images.google...

  • Jordan | November 21, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”301260″]speaking of georgia tech…some folks were….they’ve really gone south with their football uniforms this year. just an awful template and the gold looks weird. they had classic uniforms a few years back, and when they busted out the white helmets on a thurs. night ESPN game vs. virginia, those looked phenomenal. now, here’s my gripe – why do they never where navy blue jerseys in basketball or football? i miss the days of kenny anderson, with those sweet unis….and i can’t even remember the last time they wore blue jerseys in football, but i know they used to. i don’t agree with this move at all. bring back the blue.[/quote]
    I think GA Tech’s uniforms are awesome. I like that yellowish gold, you don’t see that color very often.

  • Mark K | November 21, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”301307″]As a recent grad of Ball State I’ll put a little bit of history to the “86” on the Cards’ helmets. 4 Years ago when I was a freshman as BSU and the cards won only ONE GAME that year, Dante Love wasn’t just a receiver on the team, he WAS the team, between being the only receiver we had (Ridgeway was gone by this point) and his kick returns he was about the only bright spot in our horrid team. As BSU slowly got better he got better and was always there for a clutch catch or kick return. This year (his senior year and last year) was his ultimate curtain call. Before he went down he lead the nation in yards, caught everything, was Nate Davis’s go-to guy, and was putting the stamp on a great college career and was looking forward to playing on sundays.

    When he went down at IU we didn’t just lose our number one receiver. We lost the heart and soul of our receiving corps, we lost an unapologetic leader who remembers the olden days of Ball State being number one on ESPN’s “Bottom ten” list.

    That small 86 is a very minuscule memorial to a player, leader, and overall GREAT kid (as a student I interacted with him…he’s just a massive goofball). This dream season for us is just a little more tainted with his absence.

    I am sorry this is so long, and I am sure very few of you care about the essay I just wrote…but simply saying “It’s for Dante Love” doesn’t suit the memorial justice.[/quote]
    Yeah but that essay probably wouldn’t fit on a helmet.

  • Tyler | November 21, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    Thank you both to Mpowers and to Lauren

    Count the apology at the end as ignorance to the people who write on this board…oops

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    FYI (lol) Fred Biletnikoff’s uniform violations included (but were not necessarily limited to)…
    Slit neck on jersey, cut off sleeves, slit sleeves, stickum on inside of taped forearms, (you could USE it, you just weren’t supposed to WEAR it), no thigh pads, no knee pads, pants legs slit behind knees, pants rolled up above knees exposing knees, white socks too high, stickum supply gobbed on ankles of white socks (see above), white tape on black shoes.

    —Ricko

  • Chuck | November 21, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    Ottawa Sens third jerseys look like they are straight out of NASCAR! Plug ugly!

  • Bob A | November 21, 2008 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”301309″][quote comment=”301270″]What’s up with Chicago’s NOB?

    I went to that Google portal, and searched football in the 1940’s. It can’t be in the 1940s though, because it’s color with NOB.

    Still, I really like these Bears NOBs, and if Chicago ever did throwbacks, I’d nominate these to be the uniforms thrown back to. They’re brilliant.[/quote]

    Photo is mid-to-late 60’s Shows Lions’ Lem Barney being tackled. Going by the white facemask and its style, the guy behind Barney about to tackle him is Gayle Sayers. #48 is a running back named Ron Smith. So it’s either after an INT or a fumble recovery.

    Is that what you’re trying to figure out?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Bob Hyland (#50 in the picture) was a Bear only in 1970. He was a center but also played on special teams (as did Sayers). Barney might be running back a kick.

    Not that it matters I guess.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”301345″]FYI (lol) Fred Biletnikoff’s uniform violations included (but were not necessarily limited to)…
    Slit neck on jersey, cut off sleeves, slit sleeves, stickum on inside of taped forearms, (you could USE it, you just weren’t supposed to WEAR it), no thigh pads, no knee pads, pants legs slit behind knees, pants rolled up above knees exposing knees, white socks too high, stickum supply gobbed on ankles of white socks (see above), white tape on black shoes.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so, he was a douchebag then?

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”301347″][quote comment=”301309″][quote comment=”301270″]What’s up with Chicago’s NOB?

    I went to that Google portal, and searched football in the 1940’s. It can’t be in the 1940s though, because it’s color with NOB.

    Still, I really like these Bears NOBs, and if Chicago ever did throwbacks, I’d nominate these to be the uniforms thrown back to. They’re brilliant.[/quote]

    Photo is mid-to-late 60’s Shows Lions’ Lem Barney being tackled. Going by the white facemask and its style, the guy behind Barney about to tackle him is Gayle Sayers. #48 is a running back named Ron Smith. So it’s either after an INT or a fumble recovery.

    Is that what you’re trying to figure out?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Bob Hyland (#50 in the picture) was a Bear only in 1970. He was a center but also played on special teams (as did Sayers). Barney might be running back a kick.

    Not that it matters I guess.[/quote]

    Wondered if Sayers was on special teams. So, yeah, entirely possible.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”301340″][quote comment=”301337″][quote comment=”301322″][quote comment=”301275″]Is there any actual relevant reason for these strict sock regulations, or is it just unabashed douche-baggery?[/quote]

    The only douche-baggery I see comes from the infants who mess around with their socks in a plea for attention.

    Guess it’s all in your perspective.[/quote]

    Yes, I guess it is.

    Still seems to me like a way for the No Fun League to make their product look better for next years Madden game.[/quote]

    ?

    I don’t follow.[/quote]

    I just think they are more concerned about selling stuff and controlling the players and these “violations” are just a way to do that. Meh….color me jaded.

    See, the thing is that Ricko points out a guy that did crazy stuff and it is looked at as a rebelious guy from the good ol’days and it gave players character. Now…most of them could be interchanged with another player on the same team and you would have a hard time noticing.

    Like you said, it is a matter of perspective, and mine is different than yours.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”301348″][quote comment=”301345″]FYI (lol) Fred Biletnikoff’s uniform violations included (but were not necessarily limited to)…
    Slit neck on jersey, cut off sleeves, slit sleeves, stickum on inside of taped forearms, (you could USE it, you just weren’t supposed to WEAR it), no thigh pads, no knee pads, pants legs slit behind knees, pants rolled up above knees exposing knees, white socks too high, stickum supply gobbed on ankles of white socks (see above), white tape on black shoes.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so, he was a douchebag then?[/quote]

    According to the stance you and Duck took, it sounds like you think so. Or was he being and individual that didn’t give a damn about the rules?

    I guess it just seems like what was “bad-ass” behaviour back then is looked at as “showboating” now.

    Wearing high white socks is a long, long way from pulling out a Sharpie.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”301348″][quote comment=”301345″]FYI (lol) Fred Biletnikoff’s uniform violations included (but were not necessarily limited to)…
    Slit neck on jersey, cut off sleeves, slit sleeves, stickum on inside of taped forearms, (you could USE it, you just weren’t supposed to WEAR it), no thigh pads, no knee pads, pants legs slit behind knees, pants rolled up above knees exposing knees, white socks too high, stickum supply gobbed on ankles of white socks (see above), white tape on black shoes.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so, he was a douchebag then?[/quote]

    I suppose, but he was a Hall of Fame douchebag. And he sure was fun to watch. Of course, those Raider teams were unique ones all the way around. Stabler, Matuzak, Alzado…yikes.

    But think what a pain it would have been for the Madden game people to make his figure look like that. Much easier to keep everyone looking more alike, which was, I think, the point of someone’s earlier post.

    Extra note on Biletnikoff. Google image search his wife sometime. Name’s Angela, I believe. Lordy.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”301352″]Extra note on Biletnikoff. Google image search his wife sometime.[/quote]

    im all over that like brown on rice

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”301351″][quote comment=”301348″][quote comment=”301345″]FYI (lol) Fred Biletnikoff’s uniform violations included (but were not necessarily limited to)…
    Slit neck on jersey, cut off sleeves, slit sleeves, stickum on inside of taped forearms, (you could USE it, you just weren’t supposed to WEAR it), no thigh pads, no knee pads, pants legs slit behind knees, pants rolled up above knees exposing knees, white socks too high, stickum supply gobbed on ankles of white socks (see above), white tape on black shoes.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so, he was a douchebag then?[/quote]

    According to the stance you and Duck took, it sounds like you think so. Or was he being and individual that didn’t give a damn about the rules?

    I guess it just seems like what was “bad-ass” behaviour back then is looked at as “showboating” now.

    Wearing high white socks is a long, long way from pulling out a Sharpie.[/quote]

    Let’s just say there’s a huge difference—HUGE difference—between being a character and being an egomaniac.

    They most definitely are NOT the same thing.
    Not always, anyway.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”301352″]
    Extra note on Biletnikoff. Google image search his wife sometime. Name’s Angela, I believe. Lordy.[/quote]

    Wowsers….those are some world class fun bags. Awfully pretty gal, to boot.

    :)

  • RaoulDuke | November 21, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    Rams to wear ’99 throwbacks in ’09.

    http://www.stltoday....

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”301351″][quote comment=”301348″][quote comment=”301345″]FYI (lol) Fred Biletnikoff’s uniform violations included (but were not necessarily limited to)…
    Slit neck on jersey, cut off sleeves, slit sleeves, stickum on inside of taped forearms, (you could USE it, you just weren’t supposed to WEAR it), no thigh pads, no knee pads, pants legs slit behind knees, pants rolled up above knees exposing knees, white socks too high, stickum supply gobbed on ankles of white socks (see above), white tape on black shoes.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    so, he was a douchebag then?[/quote]

    According to the stance you and Duck took, it sounds like you think so. Or was he being and individual that didn’t give a damn about the rules?

    I guess it just seems like what was “bad-ass” behaviour back then is looked at as “showboating” now.

    Wearing high white socks is a long, long way from pulling out a Sharpie.[/quote]

    Basically, yes I do, although I prefer ass-jacket. I see uniforms as being a large part of your teams identity. So by hacking the thing up and trying to look different than the other guys on the team, although it might not be the thought process they use, it makes it like you want to be singled out. No I in team, blah balah blah. But yes, bascially I hate it. High or low whites don’t bother me as much becasue it’s such a slight variation, but no whites, all whites, or extra stripes drive me nuts. It’s called a uniform for a reason, if you want to single yourself out from the crowd, then make a fricken play. Am I cherrypicking certain things that piss me off whilst overlooking others, absolutly, but its Friday afternoon, and baby, I don’t give a damn.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=\”301357\”]Rams to wear \’99 throwbacks in \’09.

    http://www.stltoday....

    That isn\’t a very far ways to \”throwback\”.

    It\’d be nice to see some old school LA Rams uniforms.

  • LarenR | November 21, 2008 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”301334″][quote comment=”301328″][quote comment=”301323″][quote comment=”301307″]

    I am sorry this is so long, and I am sure very few of you care about the essay I just wrote…but simply saying “It’s for Dante Love” doesn’t suit the memorial justice.[/quote]

    Tyler, have you read any of our comments today?

    Finding the backstories to all of these incredible pictures has created amost 160 posts today.

    Yours is no different.[/quote]
    I disagree. Yours is better.[/quote]

    Laren…I don’t see where you were going with that, but maybe my point was misunderstood.

    I was complimenting Tylers’ post.[/quote]
    Oh, no, I got your point and was not criticizing you, Matt. Simply adding my kudos to Tyler. I loved his post and wanted to emphasize that I found it more valuable than some of our standard “why is Philly’s nameplate white” explanations (although those stories are the reason I read here every day and occasionally add a comment). It was full of the helpful and personal detail that makes good writing work.

  • LarenR | November 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”301344″]Thank you both to Mpowers and to Lauren

    Count the apology at the end as ignorance to the people who write on this board…oops[/quote]
    Laren…short for MacLaren…happens all the time.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    I am going to rehash what someone mentioned before and politely ask everyone to put the term D——B– to bed.

    We’re much more creative than we’re making ourselves out to be.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote]I guess it just seems like what was “bad-ass” behaviour back then is looked at as “showboating” now.[/quote]

    lest you misinterpret, i and TAFKA duckstyle (although i won’t speak for him) aren’t necessarily hating the player…but the way the player treats the uniform…and that’s important, to me anyway

    it’s an honor and a privilege to be able to wear a professional uniform, one i’m sure everyone on here would kill to have…i just don’t like the way players disrespect the laundry today…or yesterday

    *biletnikoff and others of his time are special cases since while i don’t agree with altering the uni for ‘look at me’ purposes, i believe he was doing it to cheat…this falls into an entirely different class of douchebaggery ass-jacketery ass-clownity “improvisation”

    …now, if manny becomes a met, i’ll jump on the ‘it’s manny being a douchebag manny’ bandwagon, because he can flat out rake…BUT it doesn’t mean he’s not disrespecting the uniform…it’s like “he may be an ass-jacket, but he’s OUR ass-jacket”

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    I think you have to have been around to watch them play. Plus, everything, truly, is related to its time frame, too, and always needs to be judged to a great extent in that context.

    Generally, Duck, I agree with you, and I cherrypick the hell out of things that annoy me. But, it WAS kinda fun to be able to quickly pick out players you enjoyed without seeing their numbers.
    “Who caught that???”
    “Cliff Branch. Gotta be; he’s the one who wears white shoes AND white kneehighs.”

    Was just a different time, that’s all.

  • Duck | November 21, 2008 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”301365″]I think you have to have been around to watch them play. Plus, everything, truly, is related to its time frame, too, and always needs to be judged to a great extent in that context.

    Generally, Duck, I agree with you, and I cherrypick the hell out of things that annoy me. But, it WAS kinda fun to be able to quickly pick out players you enjoyed without seeing their numbers.
    “Who caught that???”
    “Cliff Branch. Gotta be; he’s the one who wears white shoes AND white kneehighs.”

    Was just a different time, that’s all.[/quote]

    Agreed.

  • WSC | November 21, 2008 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”301365″]I think you have to have been around to watch them play. Plus, everything, truly, is related to its time frame, too, and always needs to be judged to a great extent in that context.

    Generally, Duck, I agree with you, and I cherrypick the hell out of things that annoy me. But, it WAS kinda fun to be able to quickly pick out players you enjoyed without seeing their numbers.
    “Who caught that???”
    “Cliff Branch. Gotta be; he’s the one who wears white shoes AND white kneehighs.”

    Was just a different time, that’s all.[/quote]

    I bow to you, Ricko, and your ability to concisely put the point I was trying to make into straightforward and easily understandable terms. You, Sir, are the man. :)

  • =bg= | November 21, 2008 at 5:11 pm |

    http://sportsillustr...

    totally appropriate display of the Oregon logo. Despite what anyone may think.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”301368″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0811/campus.cheer.oregon.amanda/content.1.html

    totally appropriate display of the Oregon logo. Despite what anyone may think.[/quote]

    i prefer when they have a big O on their chests

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 5:20 pm |

    Thank you, Phil?

    To veer OT for a moment, I was checking my other favorite site, and I came across a few pics of VaTechs’ new SOD unis in action against Fairfield, in Puerto Rico.

    The look is completed by an interesting pair of team exclusive Nike Hyperdunks.

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Notice that Fairfield is wearing Nikes’ old Michigan State template.

    Rhode Island, against Duke in their new white SOD uni, is wearing the original Greg Oden era TOSU “Horns” template, as well.

    Also notice the team exclsuive Nike Kobe 3’s that the Blue Devil is wearing.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    http://www.nmnathlet...

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 5:33 pm |

    More Template recycling:

    Maryland vs. Youngstown State

    http://umterps.cstv....

    1. Maryland looks GREAT.
    2. YSU is wearing the old Texas template.
    3. YSU, another Ohio school, like TOSU, is wearing the Lebron James Air Zoom Soldier 2.
    Unlike TOSU, whose unis are made under the LBJ logo, theirs are made by Nike.

  • Beats in Buffalo | November 21, 2008 at 5:38 pm |

    HistoricFootballPosters.com

    As a current University at Buffalo student I beg you to reproduce this artwork

    http://assets.espn.g...

    I’m not sure how you will do it but hook it up

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 5:49 pm |

    Hey, Matt…

    Want a look at those pre-adidas (made by whom I know not) three-stripe cleats in NFL?

    Go to the LIFE site and search “Buddy Dial”. It’s from Dial’s second year with Steelers (whatever that was)…cuz I remember the photo and have been looking for it, and because Dial wore 83 his first year in Pittsburgh.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    Okay, without looking at any references, how many of these guys can you identify?

    http://images.google...

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”301373″]Hey, Matt…

    Want a look at those pre-adidas (made by whom I know not) three-stripe cleats in NFL?

    Go to the LIFE site and search “Buddy Dial”. It’s from Dial’s second year with Steelers (whatever that was)…cuz I remember the photo and have been looking for it, and because Dial wore 83 his first year in Pittsburgh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Do you mean these:

    http://images.google...

    Oh, and BTW…I took your challenge and was only able to name 5 of the QBs

    1. Bart Starr
    2. Bobby Layne
    3. Don Meredith
    4. Y.A. Tittle
    5. Johnny U.

    Not bad for someone born in ’77.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”301375″][quote comment=”301373″]Hey, Matt…

    Want a look at those pre-adidas (made by whom I know not) three-stripe cleats in NFL?

    Go to the LIFE site and search “Buddy Dial”. It’s from Dial’s second year with Steelers (whatever that was)…cuz I remember the photo and have been looking for it, and because Dial wore 83 his first year in Pittsburgh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Do you mean these:

    http://images.google...

    Oh, and BTW…I took your challenge and was only able to name 5 of the QBs

    1. Bart Starr
    2. Bobby Layne
    3. Don Meredith
    4. Y.A. Tittle
    5. Johnny U.

    Not bad for someone born in ’77.[/quote]

    Yup, those are the shoes.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 6:36 pm |

    bo & woody

    think anyone will fondly look back on tressel & richrod some day?

  • Bob W | November 21, 2008 at 6:38 pm |

    I immediately went to “Soccer” in the Life archives. Most people don’t realize that Pele was backup goalkeeper for Brasil during most of the 1960s.

    http://images.google...

    True fact.

    Oh, and Brasil’s warmups of the late-50s to mid-60s were the best ever:
    http://images.google...

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”301370″]Thank you, Phil?

    To veer OT for a moment, I was checking my other favorite site, and I came across a few pics of VaTechs’ new SOD unis in action against Fairfield, in Puerto Rico.

    The look is completed by an interesting pair of team exclusive Nike Hyperdunks.

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Notice that Fairfield is wearing Nikes’ old Michigan State template.

    Rhode Island, against Duke in their new white SOD uni, is wearing the original Greg Oden era TOSU “Horns” template, as well.

    Also notice the team exclsuive Nike Kobe 3’s that the Blue Devil is wearing.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    VaTech in maroon unis:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Miami, against Southern Miss, wearing interesting kicks:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Mizzou, surprisingly hasn’t boarded the SOD train yet:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Okl. State in the previously mentioned orange home unis:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Iowa Template:

    Iowa:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Cornell:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Penn:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Richmond:

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • Jay | November 21, 2008 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”301377″]bo & woody
    [/quote]

    Speaking of B & Woody, I was watching the 1974 Ohio State-Michigan game on the Big 1(1)0 Network this evening.

    One OSU player, #91, had, in addition to the standard buckeye leaves, had a huge round decal on one side of his helmet. It was a larger buckeye leaf with the word “BUCKS” arched underneath in red (it appeared). I’ve not seen this decal on the helmet hut, or helmet project sites. Anybody know anything?

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”301380″][quote comment=”301377″]bo & woody
    [/quote]

    Speaking of B & Woody, I was watching the 1974 Ohio State-Michigan game on the Big 1(1)0 Network this evening.

    One OSU player, #91, had, in addition to the standard buckeye leaves, had a huge round decal on one side of his helmet. It was a larger buckeye leaf with the word “BUCKS” arched underneath in red (it appeared). I’ve not seen this decal on the helmet hut, or helmet project sites. Anybody know anything?[/quote]

    according to this incredible reference, #91 in 1974 was james cope…unfortunately a google image search yields no pics :(

  • david stoops | November 21, 2008 at 7:39 pm |

    The white face mask in the Bears photo is mask that was worn by alot of Bears. Gale Sayers for one. They were mainly Wilson brand-other companies made them as well. And I believe George Halas had a deal with Wilson of some sort.

    http://www.helmethut...
    http://www.helmethut...
    From Helmet Hut-
    This classic “Wilson” helmet proudly reflects those infamous “monsters of the midway” during their 1963 championship season. The dark navy or midnight blue shell, which matched their jerseys, was often incorrectly confused as black in color. Please notice the correct period “Schutt” face mask bolted directly to the shell. The direct bolt-on style was later replaced by flexible mounting clips that absorbed force better which reduced neck injuries and allowed the mask to be removed quicker if necessary. The Bears, unlike the rest of the league, used “Wilson” rather “Riddell” helmets as their founder and long time owner / coach George “Papa Bear” Halas had personal business ties with the Wilson Sporting Goods Co. which was headquartered in Chicago

  • kevin c. | November 21, 2008 at 7:47 pm |

    Duke vs. Michigan on ESPN2. Look at the State Farm logo on the court it looks 3-D. annoying I can’t stop looking at it.

  • Sammy | November 21, 2008 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”301229″]Anybody watch the 2K Sports Classic last night and notice the “pop up” State Farm sticker on the floor? From above the sticker/logo looks distorted, but from the main TV camera perspective, it appears to be standing upright on top of the court. Sorry, no screen grab.[/quote]

    From it’s orientation relative to the camera, I assumed that it was a digital ad, like the first down yellow line. Apparently it’s not. The fact that they are on the court but oriented toward the camera, IMO, is kinda cool, yet very stupid. It would annoy me even more if I were in the arena. Do they think that we’re not smart enough to read “State Farm” at the perspective angle if it were straight and flat on the floor?

    On the other hand, we’ve not mentioned the company 3 times, so maybe it was an effective advertisement.

  • j | November 21, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    If Oregon wore yellow face masks on the helmets all you guys would say is “how ugly they are” and “wow Oregon’s done it again”. Just like in the first article you guys did on the Oregon unis
    you said “If you look again at this photo, you’ll see that Oregon’s new pants and jerseys come in green, yellow, white, and black, but the helmets only come in green, yellow, and white. Why isn’t there a black helmet?” But now when Oregon does get black helmets you say “Douchebag Update: As the nation waits with breathless anticipation to see if college football’s favorite comic book publishes a new issue this Saturday, it now turns out that they’ll probably have a new helmet.” No matter what Oregon does Uni Watch will criticise it.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote]No matter what Oregon does Uni Watch will criticise it.[/quote]

    point?

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”301383″]Duke vs. Michigan on ESPN2. Look at the State Farm logo on the court it looks 3-D. annoying I can’t stop looking at it.[/quote]

    I’d watch the game, if it was this Duke-Michigan matchup:

    http://www.ncaaondem...

  • LarenR | November 21, 2008 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”301384″][quote comment=”301229″]Anybody watch the 2K Sports Classic last night and notice the “pop up” State Farm sticker on the floor? From above the sticker/logo looks distorted, but from the main TV camera perspective, it appears to be standing upright on top of the court. Sorry, no screen grab.[/quote]

    From it’s orientation relative to the camera, I assumed that it was a digital ad, like the first down yellow line. Apparently it’s not. The fact that they are on the court but oriented toward the camera, IMO, is kinda cool, yet very stupid. It would annoy me even more if I were in the arena. Do they think that we’re not smart enough to read “State Farm” at the perspective angle if it were straight and flat on the floor?

    On the other hand, we’ve not mentioned the company 3 times, so maybe it was an effective advertisement.[/quote]
    Can’t take your eyes off that Unnamed Insurance Company (no more free publicity from me…) logo? Check these out.

  • Enigma | November 21, 2008 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”301165″]Funny, everybody who has gold in their unis is wearing gold jerseys at least once these days.

    And nobody mocks them for it.

    Five plus years ago, Joe Tiller at Purdue switched the home jerseys to gold (on the advice of the demon Nike) and they were mocked by CBS and ESPN incessantly.

    Ga Tech, UCF, CMU, Wake, et al. Particularly the ridiculous UCF goldies with white numerals? Been done … can’t even see ’em in the sunlight.

    What’s the deal? Are they so commonplace it’s acceptable these days? Followers :)[/quote]

    UAB doesn’t have a gold.

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 8:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”301379″][quote comment=”301370″]Thank you, Phil?

    To veer OT for a moment, I was checking my other favorite site, and I came across a few pics of VaTechs’ new SOD unis in action against Fairfield, in Puerto Rico.

    The look is completed by an interesting pair of team exclusive Nike Hyperdunks.

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Notice that Fairfield is wearing Nikes’ old Michigan State template.

    Rhode Island, against Duke in their new white SOD uni, is wearing the original Greg Oden era TOSU “Horns” template, as well.

    Also notice the team exclsuive Nike Kobe 3’s that the Blue Devil is wearing.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    VaTech in maroon unis:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Miami, against Southern Miss, wearing interesting kicks:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Mizzou, surprisingly hasn’t boarded the SOD train yet:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Okl. State in the previously mentioned orange home unis:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Iowa Template:

    Iowa:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Cornell:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Penn:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Richmond:

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Add Saint Louis to the collection:

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Kentucky, with an SEC patch, and the Memorial band for Bill Keightley(sp)The Wildcat:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Georgia, with the same SEC patch, in a atrange place:

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”301388″][quote comment=”301384″][quote comment=”301229″]Anybody watch the 2K Sports Classic last night and notice the “pop up” State Farm sticker on the floor? From above the sticker/logo looks distorted, but from the main TV camera perspective, it appears to be standing upright on top of the court. Sorry, no screen grab.[/quote]

    From it’s orientation relative to the camera, I assumed that it was a digital ad, like the first down yellow line. Apparently it’s not. The fact that they are on the court but oriented toward the camera, IMO, is kinda cool, yet very stupid. It would annoy me even more if I were in the arena. Do they think that we’re not smart enough to read “State Farm” at the perspective angle if it were straight and flat on the floor?

    On the other hand, we’ve not mentioned the company 3 times, so maybe it was an effective advertisement.[/quote]
    Can’t take your eyes off that Unnamed Insurance Company (no more free publicity from me…) logo? Check these out.[/quote]

    Laren, when I’m teaching 1 point and 2 point perspective drawing, I always reference the artist in the first hit.

    His work blows my kids minds!

    I show them some of his sidewalk using the MM projector and they are hooked!

  • MPowers1634 | November 21, 2008 at 9:00 pm |

    A’ight, UW…I’m done.

    I’m going to sit down with a few Newcastles and watch “Bull Durham” for the first time.

    I’ll talk to y’all tomorrow.

  • Sammy | November 21, 2008 at 9:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”301388″][quote comment=”301384″][quote comment=”301229″]Anybody watch the 2K Sports Classic last night and notice the “pop up” State Farm sticker on the floor? From above the sticker/logo looks distorted, but from the main TV camera perspective, it appears to be standing upright on top of the court. Sorry, no screen grab.[/quote]

    From it’s orientation relative to the camera, I assumed that it was a digital ad, like the first down yellow line. Apparently it’s not. The fact that they are on the court but oriented toward the camera, IMO, is kinda cool, yet very stupid. It would annoy me even more if I were in the arena. Do they think that we’re not smart enough to read “State Farm” at the perspective angle if it were straight and flat on the floor?

    On the other hand, we’ve not mentioned the company 3 times, so maybe it was an effective advertisement.[/quote]
    Can’t take your eyes off that Unnamed Insurance Company (no more free publicity from me…) logo? Check these out.[/quote]

    I’ve seen those before–just mind boggling. If you have never seen 3D sidewalk art, check those out. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

  • LI Phil | November 21, 2008 at 9:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”301392″]A’ight, UW…I’m done.

    I’m going to sit down with a few Newcastles and watch “Bull Durham” for the first time.

    I’ll talk to y’all tomorrow.[/quote]

    we play winston-salem…batting practice at 11:30

  • Jordan | November 21, 2008 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”301301″][quote comment=”301274″]Check out this picture of Michigan/Ohio State.

    Look at how dark the blue is, and how the helmet’s stripes are actually GOLD, not yellow.

    Also, I dig the facemask-free helmets and the numbers on Michigan’s uniforms.

    Check out the socks for both teams, and also look at Michigan’s jersey. Maybe they should go back to having that stripe on their regular jersey.[/quote]

    While we’re on the subject of uniform, uh, uniformity, check out the Michigan-TOSU picture.

    Only #66 and the center are wearing the striped socks.

    Based on the quarterback, it seems that the front section of the helmet wing is missing.

    Again, look at #66 and compare his number font to that of the running back.[/quote]

    I’m not convinced that is a Michigan-Ohio State game. The weather and dress of the crowd seems to indicate a warmer than typical date than the traditional late November weekend. Also, the cheerleader in the background has a “P” on her sweater.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    Something kinda cool about this photo…
    http://images.google...

    Pretty sure that’s Gene Autry in the background.

  • =bg= | November 21, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    http://sharks.nhl.tv...

    Video history of the Sharkies unis. I wish traffic to SJ wasn’t so bad. And I wish the tix weren’t so expensive.

  • Jordan | November 21, 2008 at 10:01 pm |

    As I suspected, the game is not tOSU vs. Michigan, but tOSU v. Purdue.

    Here’s a photo from 1954 of Charles Baer, the Purdue QB wearing the same uni with the three helmet stripes without the wings:

    http://earchives.lib...

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 10:05 pm |

    The “pajama pants” look, 1952…
    http://images.google...

  • Rick | November 21, 2008 at 10:11 pm |

    Patch on Staubach is “Bill the Goat” in the charging mode with a navy blue blanket

  • Chip | November 21, 2008 at 10:12 pm |

    I don’t know about the quotes, but if it’s the same Randazzo family I used to be employed by, there might be some mob hits in the crab cakes.

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”301399″]The “pajama pants” look, 1952…
    http://images.google...

    Thought I’d better check. #22 is OF Tom Wright. Most games he ever played in one season in MLB was in that year…89 (29 with Browns, then 60 with White Sox). Doesn’t seem likely he wore his pants that way during games…but who knows.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”301402″][quote comment=”301399″]The “pajama pants” look, 1952…
    http://images.google...

    Thought I’d better check. #22 is OF Tom Wright. Most games he ever played in one season in MLB was in that year…89 (29 with Browns, then 60 with White Sox). Doesn’t seem likely he wore his pants that way during games…but who knows.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oops, I’m wrong. Tom Wright wasn’t Afro-American. Neither was J.W. (Jay) Porter, the ohter player listed as wearing #22 for Browns in ’52.

    HOWEVER, in 1951, it was Satchel Paige. And, since that’s a spring training photo (the ’52 unis were sans orange and had script lettering), we can assume that’s Paige, I guess.

  • Jack Hitts | November 21, 2008 at 10:29 pm |

    Watching the Blues-Ducks game on FSN Midwest. Blues debuted their third jersey tonite. They kinda look like the Wild’s main jerseys – lace-up, with a circle logo. Only instead they’re blue (duh) and have the arch in the circle with the Blue Note. Classy, if you ask me. Can’t find any pics, though…

  • Jack Hitts | November 21, 2008 at 10:33 pm |

    My bad, i just found one:

    http://www.stlouisga...

  • Ricko | November 21, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”301403″][quote comment=”301402″][quote comment=”301399″]The “pajama pants” look, 1952…
    http://images.google...

    Thought I’d better check. #22 is OF Tom Wright. Most games he ever played in one season in MLB was in that year…89 (29 with Browns, then 60 with White Sox). Doesn’t seem likely he wore his pants that way during games…but who knows.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oops, I’m wrong. Tom Wright wasn’t Afro-American. Neither was J.W. (Jay) Porter, the ohter player listed as wearing #22 for Browns in ’52.

    HOWEVER, in 1951, it was Satchel Paige. And, since that’s a spring training photo (the ’52 unis were sans orange and had script lettering), we can assume that’s Paige, I guess.[/quote]

    Final note: Paige changed to #29 for ’52 and ’53, his last seasons in the majors until his single game appearance with the Kansas City A’s ’65. Sorry about taking so many posts to get it straight.

  • Mark M | November 21, 2008 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”301398″]As I suspected, the game is not tOSU vs. Michigan, but tOSU v. Purdue.

    Here’s a photo from 1954 of Charles Baer, the Purdue QB wearing the same uni with the three helmet stripes without the wings:

    http://earchives.lib...

    Helmet Hut claims the 3-stripe design was used from ’49-’54, with the following helmet losing the two side stripes.

    A quick look on the web tells us that Purdue only played tOSU in the last three of those years. Only the ’54 game was at Purdue, matching the photo date and consistent with Purdue in home whites.

  • JTH | November 22, 2008 at 12:32 am |

    [quote comment=”301374″]Okay, without looking at any references, how many of these guys can you identify?

    http://images.google...
    Powers puts me to shame. I only got 4: Wade, Starr, Unitas and Tarkenton.

  • LI Phil | November 22, 2008 at 12:38 am |

    [quote comment=”301408″][quote comment=”301374″]Okay, without looking at any references, how many of these guys can you identify?

    http://images.google...
    Powers puts me to shame. I only got 4: Wade, Starr, Unitas and Tarkenton.[/quote]

    i might have gotten one or two more if it was in color, but i only got 5…

    starr, johnny u, tark, dandy don and tittle

  • david | November 22, 2008 at 3:19 am |

    To Boomer Esiason and the guy who thinks that the Bengals road uniforms are among the worst of all time… you are out of your collective minds. The Bengals road uniforms with the orange socks (granite they dont wear their orange socks with the black pants anymore) were in the top 5 current NFL uni’s. The black socks with black pants does kinda suck but that par for the course in the current NFL (Ravens, Jags, Saints, etc.) They’re a little much… but they’re the Bengals; come on they’re pretty cool. The orange plate around the names on the back is a sweet touch I believe. At least theyre trying to be different and fun… you have to respect that, they could be dull and boring like the Texans… but no one would ever complain about that.

  • Dan | November 22, 2008 at 8:31 am |

    [quote comment=”301274″]Check out this picture of Michigan/Ohio State.

    Look at how dark the blue is, and how the helmet’s stripes are actually GOLD, not yellow.

    Also, I dig the facemask-free helmets and the numbers on Michigan’s uniforms.

    Check out the socks for both teams, and also look at Michigan’s jersey. Maybe they should go back to having that stripe on their regular jersey.[/quote]
    There is no way that is Michigan. Purdue maybe?

  • Charlie | November 22, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”301289″]While looking at some West Virginia pictures in the Life archive, I came across this beautiful photo….
    http://images.google...

    After reading the caption, I was just wondering why Ford wouldn’t have been allowed back in the game. Anybody have any ideas?[/quote]

    SUBSTITUTIONS:
    1876–Fifteen players to a team and few if any substitutions.
    1882–Replacements for disqualified or injured players.
    1897–Substitutes may enter game at any time at discretion of captains.
    1922–Players withdrawn during the first half may not return until the second half. Players withdrawn during the second half may not return to the game.
    1941–Players may substitute at any time but may not be withdrawn or the outgoing player returned until at least one play has intervened. “Platoon” football was made possible. This is one of the affects of WW I and WWII – the military’s influence on the game and personnel.
    1948–Unlimited substitution on change of team possession.
    1953–Two-platoon abolished and players allowed to enter game only once in each quarter
    1954-64–Changes each year toward more liberalized substitution and platoon football.
    1965–Platoon football returns. Unlimited substitutions between periods and after a score.
    1974–Substitutes must be in for one play and replaced players out for one play.
    1993–Players who are bleeding or whose uniforms are saturated with blood must come out of the game until their return has been approved by medical personnel.

    Victor C. Winnek
    NCAA Football Official & Rules Historian
    Western Collegiate Football Officials Association
    (From AllExperts.com)

  • Andrew | November 22, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    No idea what team this is, but it looks like someone in the dugout has a star logo on his chest. But, nice to see that the White Sox weren’t the only baseball team ever to wear shorts!

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  • Andrew | November 22, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”301456″]No idea what team this is, but it looks like someone in the dugout has a star logo on his chest. But, nice to see that the White Sox weren’t the only baseball team ever to wear shorts!

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    They have related ones too!
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    That’s just a FEW! This archive is sweet.

  • Andrew | November 22, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”301458″][quote comment=”301456″]No idea what team this is, but it looks like someone in the dugout has a star logo on his chest. But, nice to see that the White Sox weren’t the only baseball team ever to wear shorts!

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    They have related ones too!
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    That’s just a FEW! This archive is sweet.[/quote]

    Sorry…. But I had to include just one more… Possibly the best of the group.
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  • David | November 22, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”301290″]Georgia Tech wore the navy unis last in the ACC Championship game against Wake Forest two years ago. I agree that they look good, but navy is NOT one of our primary colors. Navy is, and always has been, a trim color and us switching to navy unis would be like any other team switching to black…completely stupid. We do have a navy uni in the new set, but it has not been brought out yet this year.[/quote]

    i disagree that it would be “completely stupid” – i checked out some of the pics that MPowers provided and that jogged my memory about the game vs. wake in the ACC championship. they looked really sharp there. navy is naturally one of your school colors, and it looks good with the gold – see notre dame, navy, numerous other schools – it’s not like a florida state or usc going with a black alternate, which looks more forced. i just feel like white and gold are too close together to differentiate home and away. mixing in navy every now and then looks awesome. when i watch a team play georgia tech at home in basketball, i want to see a dark color as the away team. to me, it’s like they can go navy, but choose not to, and now that you’ve said navy isn’t really a primary color, i understand, though disagree with the choice.

  • Tom Bushaw | November 23, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    Ever looked at the history of the black armband tribute? Check out these black armbands from the Life photos on the civil war.
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  • kendawg | November 23, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    The “86” on the Ball State helmets is in tribute to WR Dante Love, who was seriously injured earlier in the season against Indiana.