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History Mystery Revisited

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Remember this guy, who appeared in this photo and this photo, and how we spent a few days puzzling over who he might be and how he got into those photos?

Now reader Larry Wiederecht may — may — have solved the mystery. The key piece of evidence is in this short video clip from Game 5 of the 1976 American League playoffs. If you look behind jim Wohlford, you see someone lurking in the on deck region who bears at least some resemblance to our previous mystery man (it’s hard to see in the screen grabs, but the KC guy is wearing glasses, just like the ASG guy).

The next batter after Wohlford was George Brett, and that’s obviously not who’s shown in the KC photos. So I showed the screen grabs to Royals fanatic Rob Neyer, who said he didn’t recognize the mystery man. “My guess? Husky batboy.”

That’s Larry Wiederecht’s guess, too. In fact, it was his guess regarding the ASG photo all along (i.e., that a batboy appeared in the photo, probably as a placeholder for a player who wasn’t there). I had resisted that idea for a couple of reasons, but the KC shots definitely add weight to that theory, especially since our batboy — if that’s what he is — is wearing a visiting uniform in both photos.

Mystery solved? I wouldn’t go quite that far. But I’d say we now have a much stronger hypothesis than we had before. And if anyone can come up with other late-’70s Yankee Stadium pics that show a road batboy who fits this profile, then we may be able to put this one in the “Case Closed” file.

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Socialist Wealth-Redistribution Raffle: As promised, I’m going to raffle off those three College Vault books. The winner will have his choice of Michigan, Ohio State, or Notre Dame. The second-place winner will have next choice, and the third-place winner will get the remaining book.

To enter, send a check to the Communist Party a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line to the raffle address (not to the usual Uni Watch address, please) by 10pm eastern this Friday. If you’ve enrolled in the membership program, you can become eligible for a free tour of the Kremlin send up to four separate e-mail entries; non-members are limited to one entry. I’ll announce the winners next week.

Uni Watch News Ticker — Guaranteed 100% Politics-Free!: The Forewords (my lecture/slideshow collaboration with architectural spy extraordinaire Liz Clayton) finally have a web site. … In a vaguely related item, Liz and I went to Shea last night with the Junior Socialist League a bunch of Can’t Stop the Bleeding people, including webmaster Gerard Cosloy (who wore Mets kicks) and longtime Mets fans Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley (whose band, Yo La Tengo, is named after a Mets anecdote). Best moment in an otherwise dreary evening came when three guys in David Wright jerseys burned an American flag headed for the exits in unison during the 8th inning, allowing me to say, “Ladies and gentlemen, David Wright has really left the building.” … Nike is getting out of the Olympic swimwear biz. … Matt Lesser notes that the Cincinnati Bearcats are wearing a hammer and sickle “Joni” memorial decal in memory of long-time benefactor Joni Herschede. And although we’ve seen this before, Matt also sent along a particularly good shot of the reflective piping on NHL practice jerseys. … Congrats to reader Mike Edgerley, who won Chad Bradford’s jersey in the Rays’ “Jerseys for Allah” “Shirts Off Our Backs” promotion on Sunday. “There’s a piece of Velcro inside the buttonholes that’s supposed to prevent the jersey from saying ‘RAAYS,’ but you know how that works,” he says. … Several good finds by Andy Chalifour: the best photo I’ve seen so far of Terrence Long’s mask; Pete Rose in his Trotsky phase; and Mo Vaughn with a hand-inscribed cap memorial to Reggie Lewis. … If you listen to the first 10 seconds or so of this video clip, you’ll hear Giants radio man Bob Popa reading passages from The Communist Manifesto giving a trenchant analysis of the Bengals’ uniforms (with thanks to Robert Tusso). … The Mets are switching their triple-A affiliation from New Orleans to Buffalo. As a result, according to this article, “The Bisons are expected to go to new uniforms, likely some sort of blue to reflect the Mets’ primary color” (with thanks to Joe Pitzonka). … I haven’t seen the latest episode of The Golden Age of Baseball (the When It Was a Game-esque series currently running on most Fox Sports outlets), but Joe Nocella reports the following: “The latest episode has five- to seven-minute segment on the golden age of baseball uniforms. Nice color shots of old uniforms, and there is a brief glimpse of the Cubs vest jersey. There’s also a mention on how Willie Mays (and another SF Giant player) changed the way pants are now worn. It said how Willie and this other player went to a San Francisco tailor in the mid-’60s and had their pants tailored to a tighter, more form-fitting way, because they did not like the baggy pants that were customary at that time. The commentator said that this caused a change in how players wore their pants.” … Yesterday I mentioned that Martin Gramatica should be watched carefully cuz he has a suspiciously foreign-sounding name was wearing his wedding band on Sunday. But as several readers pointed out in the comments, his holder also wore a wedding band — and a wristwatch for good measure! … Soccer note from Dana Prey, who writes: “I noticed that David Beckham isn’t wearing his traditional #7 playing with the England squad (vs. Croatia) — instead, he’s #17. This might have to do with the fact that he’s been regulated to a sub, but still.. who would take his famous #7 away?” … See this jersey? Steven Samuels spotted someone wearing a road version, with a wishbone-C logo tossed in. … Daniel Pritchard notes that I neglected to mention that Arizona wore red pants on Saturday, which coach Stoops broke out just before gametime. … Finally, a good close-up view of the patch that the Colts wore in Week 1 (big thanks to Brad Bierman). … The Vanderbilt and Auburn soccer teams will wear pink cuz they’re commies and hate America to support breast cancer awareness this weekend. … Here’s something new (at least to me): sports-themed trash cans (thanks, Milesofsparks). … Nice little piece here on giant inflatable sports statues (with thanks to Chris Flinn). … News flash: Dog bites man, wags tail too. … David Arnott reports that the 49ers’ famous one-day prototype helmet design has surfaced on eBay, supposedly autographed by legends like Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, and Mike Cofer (the latter tossed in just to show that legends aren’t what they used to be). … More here about UGA’s black uniforms. … Miles Eakins notes that many NHL teams would make excellent laborers on the commune I’m starting are using non-Edge practice jerseys. “In fact,” he writes, “these jerseys are old CCM models with the old NHL shield from years back.” Some other teams, however, are using Reebok practice jerseys. Anyone know more about this? … Speaking of Reebok and the NHL, John Muir reports that the “RBK” mark on goalie gear has been replaced by the Reebok logo. … Also from John: Curtis Sanford is wearing his new fan-designed mask. … NOB typo for the Bruins. No photo, alas (with thanks to Chris O’Connor). … I have a feeling I may have linked to this before, but just in case: Great archive of old panoramic photos here, including a whole section devoted to sports. Dane Drutis says he’s particularly fond of this one, while I like this and this. … I know about the Texas A&M tradition of chanting “Property is theft!” while shooting all the landlords the 12th man. But is it usually observed like this? I feel like I need a refresher course on this one — someone please bring me up to date (with thanks to Daniel Dingerson for the screen grab). … Yesterday I linked to a photo of this cap, which had this John Gilmore Sporting Goods tag. That prompted the following from reader Dave Gilmore, Jr.: “John Gilmore is my uncle (my dad’s older brother). or many years he had his own sporting goods outfit and was partners with Brooks Robinson. Needless to say, we have a lot of cool stuff around (he’s got one of Brooks’s Gold Gloves). He was also tied to Reebok, worked for the Redskins for many years, and is very connected in the college basketball community. Most of his sports friends know him as ‘The Gov.’ He’s given us a lot of cool stuff over the years: dugout jackets, TONS of hats (most of which, sadly, my little brother and sold on eBay a few years ago). Anyway, he’s not in great health so I just want you to know it was a comforting sign to see someone enjoying his work.” … Check this out: Cal Angels mittens! Brett Crane, clubhouse manager of the Orem Owlz (the Halos’ Pioneer League affiliate) got them from a pitching coach who’d been with the organization since the early 1990s although you’ve gotta wonder about what kind of anti-American wuss would wear mittens. … Ryan Perkins thinks Marion Barber’s helmet/mask is really snug around his face, or his face is really bloated relative to his mask, or something like that (“It looks like he’s a broken nose, black eye or cracked tooth waiting to happen,” he says). He’s spotted the same thing going on with Brandon Jacobs, which of course is where Joe Skiba comes in. His response: “Concerning Barber, it looks as if his dreads are giving the helmet some rise as well as the forward appearance. We had that issue with Amani Toomer and Michael Barrow when they had dreads. As for Jacobs, nothing special at all. I squeeze him into an Air Advantage large with 3/4-inch (smallest) front pads. I like to give him a nice secure fit.” But now Ryan has another question: “Steve Smith’s front helmet pads are riding down a good bit, and it looks disheveled and unnatural. You have two weeks to get on top of this and remedy this aesthetic travesty — make us proud, Skeebs.” Back to Skiba: “That will be a running change on the New Schutt XP. You see this all over football players wearing the helmet — they have to secure that pad down more.” … Idaho is getting new cheerleader uniforms. … Faaascinating item from Jeremy Brahm, who writes: “After the Nankai Hawks sold the team to Daiei, Nankai turned the Osaka Kyujo into a model home center.” Hear that, Steinbrenners? Toss a few model condo units in there and you can branch into the real estate market. Well, once we solve the mortgage crisis.

 

189 comments to History Mystery Revisited

  • Tree Missile | September 23, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    In Mother Russia, Uni watches you!

  • DJ | September 23, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Texas A&M used to have a kickoff team made up of the kicker and ten walk-ons, with the walk-ons all wearing the “12th Man” on their sleeves. I’m not sure if they still have this unit, but that’s where the sleeve emblem came from.

  • Paul Lukas | September 23, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment=”291121″]Texas A&M used to have a kickoff team made up of the kicker and ten walk-ons, with the walk-ons all wearing the “12th Man” on their sleeves. I’m not sure if they still have this unit, but that’s where the sleeve emblem came from.[/quote]

    Got it. Thank you!!

  • =bg= | September 23, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    That Niners helmet IS a really horrible design.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    [quote]“The Bisons are expected to go to new uniforms, likely some sort of blue BLACK to reflect the Mets’ primary color”[/quote]

    fixed

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    http://farm4.static....

    AKA, another Bettman genius marketing plans: Accessory lighting for hockey jerseys… they’ll sell like hot cakes!!!

    That’s a cool pic. Almost looks like they’re wearing lighting on their jerseys.

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”291125″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2873495262_106364f54e_b.jpg

    AKA, another Bettman genius marketing plans: Accessory lighting for hockey jerseys… they’ll sell like hot cakes!!!

    That’s a cool pic. Almost looks like they’re wearing lighting on their jerseys.[/quote]

    Also, those socks are hidious…

  • Chad Johnson | September 23, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    Paul,
    Check out these websites. They are pretty cool. They have a lot of helmet designs from high scholl all the way thru the NFL.

    mghelmets.com

    http://www.nationalc...

    http://txhshelmetpro...

    These are pretty awesome sites for helmet designs.

  • MG12 | September 23, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    Does anyone have an image of the current Idaho cheerleader uniforms that are being described as “too skimpy”?

    What kind of a fan would complain?

  • Rick | September 23, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    The guy lurking is the bat boy. Definately not the guy in the picture.

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”291121″]Texas A&M used to have a kickoff team made up of the kicker and ten walk-ons, with the walk-ons all wearing the “12th Man” on their sleeves. I’m not sure if they still have this unit, but that’s where the sleeve emblem came from.[/quote]

    Maybe that’s why they”ve been finishing 13th in the Big 12 lateley!!!

    I’m only kidding…I’ve always moderately liked A&M for their 12th man tradition. My parents once attended the Kickoff Classic at Giants Stadium when A&M played FSU and they came away from that game simply amazed by the Aggie fans, their 4th quarter singing etc!

  • Tom Servaux | September 23, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”291122″][quote comment=”291121″]Texas A & M used to have a kickoff team made up of the kicker and ten walk-ons, with the walk-ons all wearing the “12th Man” on their sleeves. I’m not sure if they still have this unit, but that’s where the sleeve emblem came from.[/quote]

    Got it. Thank you!![/quote]

    Now, A & M has just one man on the unit that is a walk-on. The team has tryouts just for the walk-ons at the beginning of the year, and each game one is chosen to be on the kickoff team and represent the 12th Man.

    But, as any Aggie can tell you, the original 12th Man squad was much more fun to watch. It was like having 10 kamikazes/gunners/whatever on the field at once.

    Great post today, Paul. As long as you can laugh at yourself, I don’t really care what political leanings you have.

  • Johnny O | September 23, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    The Milwaukee Brewers are dropping their West Virginia Class-A affiliiate and finally getting one back in Wisconsin! The Timber Rattlers in Appleton, Wisconsin (long time seattle mariners affiliate) will be their new class A team according to this article:

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    Does this mean a uni change or logo change? I guess time will tell.

    Here is the Timber Rattlers logo”
    http://kfiz.com/uplo...

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”291123″]That Niners helmet IS a really horrible design.[/quote]

    brinke,

    im sure you know this, but in 1991 the niners held a press conference announcing the new helmet…fan reaction was so bad they immediately scrapped it

    this is covered in PL’s FAQ for anyone who hasn’t read it

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    1. Who broke the strike through button.
    2. And the word is lately.
    3. The Silent Assassin: Quentin Coryatt?

  • Jeff | September 23, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    Thanks again, Shorpy.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote]Who broke the strike through button.[/quote]

    huh?

  • Bernie | September 23, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    Go Comrade Paulsky!

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”291136″][quote]Who broke the strike through button.[/quote]

    huh?[/quote]

    Everything on my screen had a strikethrough for a minute…maybe it was some conspiracy by the “Reds”, not Marge Schott by the way, to derail our free speech again!

  • Rick | September 23, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    I think the guy in the All star picture is Amos Otis maybe with a Reggie/Mariners uniform switch. I cant seem to find Amos anywhere else in the picture.

  • Adrian | September 23, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    If that is a batboy in the 77 All Star game, it might be Joe D’Ambrosio. Check out the photos for the 76 and 77 Yankees:

    http://www.ultimatey...

    http://www.ultimatey...

    He’s now a talent manager:

    http://www.jdmanagem...

    And here’s an article about him being a former bat boy:

    http://www.allbusine...

    But the question is: Is that really him in the 77 ASG photo?

  • Alan | September 23, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”291132″]The Milwaukee Brewers are dropping their West Virginia Class-A affiliiate and finally getting one back in Wisconsin! The Timber Rattlers in Appleton, Wisconsin (long time seattle mariners affiliate) will be their new class A team according to this article:

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    Does this mean a uni change or logo change? I guess time will tell.

    Here is the Timber Rattlers logo”
    http://kfiz.com/uplo...

    Bummer. The WV Power (formerly the Charleston Alley Cats) has a brand new ballpark and decent unis. And multiple mascots! Wonder who’ll pick them up. Oh, and Tuesdays are 2forTuesday. Buy one of anything, get another free. It’s fantastic spending $3.50 on 24oz of beer, and being given 48oz.

  • Dan OConnor | September 23, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    OK, I’ll bite, what *did* the Idaho Cheerleader Uni’s look like?

  • Craig D | September 23, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    Wasn’t able to screen capture. On Antiques Roadshow last night a guy had a game worn ’69-70 Gale Sayers jersey. The expert was absolutely giddy with it and for good reason. This jersey had so many repairs, including a 4”x4” patch, and blood and was all yellowed. This was a SEASON worn jersey. He even focused on the tag. The auction value was placed at 30k. This guy’s wife had threatened to turn it into rags. EGADS!

  • Taha | September 23, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    did they charge admission to let people watch it being built? seriously, how cool is that? If the Yankees did that, it would be phenomenal…build a 20-story building in the old field and make the top floors facing the new stadium luxury boxes.

  • Morgan Doninger | September 23, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    Did anyone catch the streaming video of the Flyers/Devils preseason game last night? I was wondering what NOB was used for Devils prospect Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond. If his full hyphenated name was used that would be an eighteen character surname, but I know that when PL-LL played for the Lowell Devils in the AHL his jersey just had “Leblond” on it. Anyone see what NOB he had last nihgt in Philly?

  • Craig D | September 23, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    Ok the Pete Rose Trotsky pic….
    http://farm4.static....

    And his red headed brother….
    http://www.tvguide.c...

    How many hits did Kringle get in his career? And did he ever bet on Rudolph?

  • Taha | September 23, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”291142″]OK, I’ll bite, what *did* the Idaho Cheerleader Uni’s look like?[/quote]
    because you asked…

    do these put the “ho” in Idaho? Vandal fans think so

  • Hot Rodd | September 23, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Bravo Paul, Bravo!

  • Mike Edgerly | September 23, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    Beckham’s #7 was given to Theo Walcott, who scored 3 goals and will probably be holding on to it a while

    http://www.uefa.com/...

    In other news, I’m leaving on a slow boat to Cuba to catch their World Cup home qualifiers in Estadio Pedro Marrero, which is named after a fictional “happy-go-lucky Communist comrade” http://en.wikipedia....

  • Taha | September 23, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders

  • shadoquad | September 23, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    I enjoyed the dashed out comments throughout today’s entries. Is very good, comrade Lukas.

  • Mike | September 23, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    The West Virginia Power have signed up to team with the PIttsburgh Pirates….and the New Orleans Zephyrs aer going with the Marlins….

  • Mike | September 23, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    For fans of the Arena Football League:

    The New York Dragons will be holding a press conference today at 1:45 p.m. ET at the Sports Museum of America to unveil the franchise’s new logo, team colors and helmet as well as introduce the new Dragons’ Advisory Board.

  • Alan #44 | September 23, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    Paul, you are a great writer and a funny guy. Today’s column is OUTSTANDING! Yesterday’s comments were too overwhelming for me to keep up with, let alone comment on. Although I agree with you on just about everything, I respectfully disagree with the Yankee bashing. Not because I am a Yankee fan, just agree to disagree.
    It’s your blog, and you have the right to say whatever you want. No matter what, I shall remain a faithful reader and a loyal member. Over the weekend I got into a disagreement with my son’s baseball coach when he told me that he still plays baseball. I was disgruntled when he told me he wears stockings. “C’mon!” I said, “what about the stirrup tradition?? Who cares about comfort?” Oy.

  • Joe O. | September 23, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    FYI – The New York Dragons of the AFL will be unveiling their new colors, logo and helmet at a press conference today 1:45pm ET. Article here: http://www.arenafoot...

  • Robert | September 23, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    I didn’t know that any 49ers helmets with the one-day logo survived. Wow.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...|66%3A2|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

  • John T | September 23, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”291144″]did they charge admission to let people watch it being built? seriously, how cool is that? If the Yankees did that, it would be phenomenal…build a 20-story building in the old field and make the top floors facing the new stadium luxury boxes.[/quote]

    Seeing that reminded me of something
    http://www.teachnet....
    This is King John’s Castle in Limerick, they actually built low income housing inside the castle walls, the houses have been removed and now it is a regular tourist attraction

    http://www.teachnet....

  • Hank | September 23, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”291145″]Did anyone catch the streaming video of the Flyers/Devils preseason game last night? I was wondering what NOB was used for Devils prospect Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond. If his full hyphenated name was used that would be an eighteen character surname, but I know that when PL-LL played for the Lowell Devils in the AHL his jersey just had “Leblond” on it. Anyone see what NOB he had last nihgt in Philly?[/quote]

    It says LEBLOND. Here’s a clip from last night’s game of his fight with Matt Clackson showihg the NOB: http://www.hockeyfig...

  • Rick White Un Trois | September 23, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    I’m sorry, I don’t see anything offensive about the Idaho cheerleader uniforms. And I don’t mean that sarcastically, or any other way other than sincerely. There are a lot of college cheerleaders wearing similar uniforms.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics

    /what’s the big dealio?

  • Hank | September 23, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”291160″][quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics

    /what’s the big dealio?[/quote]

    It’s in Idaho. ‘Nuff said.

  • Rick White Un Trois | September 23, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”291161″][quote comment=”291160″][quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics

    /what’s the big dealio?[/quote]

    It’s in Idaho. ‘Nuff said.[/quote]

    What? They don’t like girls in Idaho? Or, maybe they’re all mad that the football team is soooooo bad.

  • greg | September 23, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    the cia might just be trying to infiltrate uniwatch membership after this post… just kidding, i would have enjoyed blackouts instead of strikethroughs today, good stuff though.

  • Flip | September 23, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    This probably got lost in all the comments last night. I have a question regarding the SOD. When the System of Dress was introduced, Nike made a big deal out of how each uniform was unique besides the number and NOB. Something like the players’ names were threaded into the fabric or something.In the case of Florida, the fabric resembled gator scales. Is there still some individualism in the uniforms? If so, what is it?

  • Rick | September 23, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    Sorry not Amos Otis..I was looking at the 76 roster.

  • Alan #44 | September 23, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”291140″]If that is a batboy in the 77 All Star game, it might be Joe D’Ambrosio. Check out the photos for the 76 and 77 Yankees:

    http://www.ultimatey...

    http://www.ultimatey...

    He’s now a talent manager:

    http://www.jdmanagem...

    And here’s an article about him being a former bat boy:

    http://www.allbusine...

    But the question is: Is that really him in the 77 ASG photo?[/quote]

    Has anybody contacted him through his business website to confirm?

  • Walaitis | September 23, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”291166″][quote comment=”291140″]If that is a batboy in the 77 All Star game, it might be Joe D’Ambrosio. Check out the photos for the 76 and 77 Yankees:

    http://www.ultimatey...

    http://www.ultimatey...

    He’s now a talent manager:

    http://www.jdmanagem...

    And here’s an article about him being a former bat boy:

    http://www.allbusine...

    But the question is: Is that really him in the 77 ASG photo?[/quote]

    Has anybody contacted him through his business website to confirm?[/quote]

    That name … Joe D’Ambrosio … it’s so familiar … wasn’t there someone on CNN Headline News Sports with the same (or similar) name at one point?

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”291167″][quote comment=”291166″][quote comment=”291140″]If that is a batboy in the 77 All Star game, it might be Joe D’Ambrosio. Check out the photos for the 76 and 77 Yankees:

    http://www.ultimatey...

    http://www.ultimatey...

    He’s now a talent manager:

    http://www.jdmanagem...

    And here’s an article about him being a former bat boy:

    http://www.allbusine...

    But the question is: Is that really him in the 77 ASG photo?[/quote]

    Has anybody contacted him through his business website to confirm?[/quote]

    That name … Joe D’Ambrosio … it’s so familiar … wasn’t there someone on CNN Headline News Sports with the same (or similar) name at one point?[/quote]

    an innocent man?

  • Zach R. | September 23, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    In regards to David Beckham wearing #17 in recent games. From the US Men’s national team soccer blog when they played England “England has a long tradition of putting their starting team in numbers 1-11 in accordance with their position on the field, a practice begun in club football as early as 1908 (at least according to wikipedia – and who doesn’t trust that?). Since Capello refuses to tell anyone who is starting, the equipment guys literally have to print jerseys right up until near kickoff.” So that’s why you see David Beckham and the other subs wearing #’s 12-18, Beckham also wore #15 in prior game before he wore 17

  • Graf Zeppelin | September 23, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    In the midst of all the quasi-political back-and-forth yesterday (in which I did not and do not want to get involved) there was an excellent post by Mr. Met (#159) that beautifully explicated an important aspect of the Yankee “fan” phenomenon. I put -fan- in quotes because there is a difference between a Yankee fan and a Yankee “fan.” I, too, have been subjected to countless wearers and worshippers of the navy blue NY crest who mindlessly, almost instinctively shout and repeat “26 titles” at the top of their lungs, as if to suggest that an allegiance to any other club constitutes a character flaw or a mental illness, but don’t know who Don Mattingly is, or can’t name more than three other major league teams, or in some cases don’t even know what an RBI or an ERA is. We’ve all encountered people like this. These are not fans; they’re idolators, superficially associating themselves with what they see as a symbol of success, as if they can transform themselves into “winners” simply by putting on the NY cap or jersey.

    In most cases I find it useless to try to reason with such characters. Pro sports, for most ofus, are supposed to be for fun and entertainment, not a means of defining ourselves or our character. As wonderful as it is to win a title and as painful as it can be to fall short, these achievements and failures are not ours, no matter how much we may want them to be.

    Sometimes, though, I can defuse the almighty 26 by reminding the person that by invoking it he is essentially “rooting for the past.” All the details about the Mets coming into existence after the Yankees had already won nearly 20 of those titles, or half of them coming before WWII, none of that means much. The fact is that ALL of them are in the past, and while history and tradition are great, sports fans are not supposed to root for the past. The whole point of being a sports fan is the possibility, the chance, the hope, that the team you root for will win the title this year. Or next year, or the year after.

    Being a fan is about the present, and the future, not the past. You root for your team to win today, and tomorrow, and hope that when this season ends they (not you) will win it all. And if they don’t, there’s always next year.

    We watch sports as entertainment precisely because we don’t know the outcome; we don’t know how it will end or who will win. That’s where the excitement comes from, and where the feeling of victory or defeat, exhultation or disappointment, lies.

    Like I said, history is great, but you can’t root for it. If you ask me, those who root for the 26 titles that all occurred in the past are the ones who are misguided, not those who hold out hope that a franchise might win its third, eighth, or even its first, title.

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”291164″]This probably got lost in all the comments last night. I have a question regarding the SOD. When the System of Dress was introduced, Nike made a big deal out of how each uniform was unique besides the number and NOB. Something like the players’ names were threaded into the fabric or something.In the case of Florida, the fabric resembled gator scales. Is there still some individualism in the uniforms? If so, what is it?[/quote]

    Sad to say, no!

    That original Florida kit was scrapped by Messrs. Horford, Brewer, Green, Noah, and the other guy who could make threes from anywhere in Gainesville, Humphrey, I think.

    they wore it but a few times, I think at the ned of the season and once in the SEC tourney and said Adios!

    They were the only unique one in my eyes.

    I was thoroughly disappointed with Oregon’s and Syracuse’s entry, however loved TOSU and K-State!

  • Jeremy Brahm | September 23, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    Nankai is a railway company and during the Japanese bubble economy era, land was at a premium. They had sold the team and had a great deal of land with the stadium not being in use, next to the terminus station for them in Osaka. So, the company felt that it could show off some homes that people could build at other locations that Nankai owned near its railway lines.

  • Larry Craig's foot | September 23, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”291162″][quote comment=”291161″][quote comment=”291160″][quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics

    /what’s the big dealio?[/quote]

    It’s in Idaho. ‘Nuff said.[/quote]

    What? They don’t like girls in Idaho? Or, maybe they’re all mad that the football team is soooooo bad.[/quote]

    Where did you hear that? It’s a lie I tell you!!!

  • Frank Mercogliano | September 23, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    Having been up there for their first home game (they beat Idaho State 42-27), I can tell you that I was amazed by what the cheerleaders were wearing, and my thoughts were “that’s what they wear in the NFL”, and “those won’t last” … looks like I was right on both front.

    Without a doubt though, those were the best cheerleader uniforms I’ve seen….they topped Oregon’s cheerleaders outfits from a few years ago when i was there for a basketball game….yikes.

    Frank

  • Roger Faso | September 23, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    Awesome Jersey Find on Ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I’m getting one to celebrate May Day.

  • Derek | September 23, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”291160″][quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics

    /what’s the big dealio?[/quote]
    i only have one problem with it, too much uniform

  • Roger Faso | September 23, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    That guy in the Royals uni is caucasian.

    The mystery man doesn’t look caucasian. He looks like a cross between Stan Javier and Claudell Washington.

  • Tom V. | September 23, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    wow. uniwatch just got way too weird over the last two days. At first, I thought Paul had filled a wonderful little niche with this place, but the past two days blogs and tickers just drove this blog downhill in striking fashion.

    A bunch of you said yesterday that if we don’t like what paul has to say, don’t come here then. Well, you know something, I don’t give much of a rats ass about politics, so I don’t visit political sites. But then I have to come here and listen to pauls personal politic opinions? (For those of you who said it was non-partisan yesterday, all of the big bad Americans and their gas guzzling SUV’s are typically from one side of the equation.)

    I always thought this was a great site, but its certainly lost alot of its luster, between “so and so’s wearing a nike logo” on the inside of his freaking underwear to the political statements. I’m sure I’ll still stop by, but this place has lost a loyal reader, for the first time in months today, I didn’t even read the blog or ticker, all that stood out was the strikethroughs.

    A sad sad day, it’s unfortunate.

  • chance | September 23, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”291171″]In the midst of all the quasi-political back-and-forth yesterday (in which I did not and do not want to get involved) there was an excellent post by Mr. Met (#159) that beautifully explicated an important aspect of the Yankee “fan” phenomenon. I put -fan- in quotes because there is a difference between a Yankee fan and a Yankee “fan.” [/quote]
    True enough.

    The Yankees aren’t the only ones afflicted with it, though. The Red Sox have more than their share of obnoxiously vocal “fans” at the moment, and it doesn’t feel so long ago that you’d see lots of blue and orange caps worn around town by people with no understanding of what they meant.

  • u2-horn | September 23, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”291128″]Does anyone have an image of the current Idaho cheerleader uniforms that are being described as “too skimpy”?

    What kind of a fan would complain?[/quote]

    Their fathers maybe?

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”291176″]Awesome Jersey Find on Ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I’m getting one to celebrate May Day.[/quote]

    Or communism…

    Sweet jersey though!

    ‘Useless’ hockey fact of the day: TRETIAK never played in the NHL, but was CHI goalie coach for 6 years.

    Useless to some, never to me :)

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”291182″][quote comment=”291176″]Awesome Jersey Find on Ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I’m getting one to celebrate May Day.[/quote]

    Or communism…

    Sweet jersey though!

    ‘Useless’ hockey fact of the day: TRETIAK never played in the NHL, but was CHI goalie coach for 6 years.

    Useless to some, never to me :)[/quote]

    But was drafted by MON… almost forgot that part

  • Roger Faso | September 23, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    whole lotta sport themed russian nesting dolls here …

    http://www.randlltd....

  • u2-horn | September 23, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”291160″][quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics
    [/quote]

    Got done?

    Yikes–TMI.

  • Neil | September 23, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”291125″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2873495262_106364f54e_b.jpg

    AKA, another Bettman genius marketing plans: Accessory lighting for hockey jerseys… they’ll sell like hot cakes!!!

    That’s a cool pic. Almost looks like they’re wearing lighting on their jerseys.[/quote]

    Different typeface on the 4 for the two guys standing next to each other.

  • joe | September 23, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”291181″][quote comment=”291128″]Does anyone have an image of the current Idaho cheerleader uniforms that are being described as “too skimpy”?

    What kind of a fan would complain?[/quote]

    Their fathers maybe?[/quote]
    the father of each girl would complain their daughter was wearing it, but be drooling over each of the other girls.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”291185″][quote comment=”291160″][quote comment=”291150″]I’ll try again to link the Idaho cheerleaders[/quote]

    i just got done with those pics
    [/quote]

    Got done?

    Yikes–TMI.[/quote]

    ;)

  • Robert | September 23, 2008 at 11:04 am |
  • Morgan Doninger | September 23, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”291158″][quote comment=”291145″]Did anyone catch the streaming video of the Flyers/Devils preseason game last night? I was wondering what NOB was used for Devils prospect Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond. If his full hyphenated name was used that would be an eighteen character surname, but I know that when PL-LL played for the Lowell Devils in the AHL his jersey just had “Leblond” on it. Anyone see what NOB he had last nihgt in Philly?[/quote]

    It says LEBLOND. Here’s a clip from last night’s game of his fight with Matt Clackson showihg the NOB: http://www.hockeyfig...

    Thanks Hank!

  • Jeff P | September 23, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”291176″]Awesome Jersey Find on Ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I’m getting one to celebrate May Day.[/quote]

    XXXL? You could fit two Vladislav Tretiaks in that tent…

    That’s also the same style they wore in the 1980 Olympics. Neat looking jersey.

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”291186″][quote comment=”291125″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2873495262_106364f54e_b.jpg

    AKA, another Bettman genius marketing plans: Accessory lighting for hockey jerseys… they’ll sell like hot cakes!!!

    That’s a cool pic. Almost looks like they’re wearing lighting on their jerseys.[/quote]

    Different typeface on the 4 for the two guys standing next to each other.[/quote]

    Plus one has yellow laces… tisk tisk

    That should be mandatory for making the team. I mean if you’re never going to make the playoffs, might as well look good doing it:)

    For pete’s sake, someone rock the yellow laces!!

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”291182″]
    ‘Useless’ hockey fact of the day: TRETIAK never played in the NHL, but was CHI goalie coach for 6 years.

    Useless to some, never to me :)[/quote]

    More useless hockey trivia re: Tretiak?

    – He was the reason the NHL went from fiberglass facemasks like Plante, Gratton, and Cheevers wore to the hybrid design that Don Dryden designed. During the 1972 Summit Series, designers were amazed at his ability to see pucks everywhere, and, by 1979, Dryden had developed a fiberglass-with-cage design that every goaltender uses today.

    – Tretiak was the goaltender sitting on the bench in 1980 during the “Miracle On Ice” after having been pulled in the first period. Mark Johnson scored a fluky goal, and he was yanked. We all know how that one ended.

    – He was the first Soviet player to be named to the Hockey Hall of Fame, despite never having played in the NHL, in 1989.

    – Ed Belfour, the man who Tretiak tutored in Chicago as a goalie coach, wears #20 in honour of Vladislav Tretiak.

    The man is literally a living legend, and he dramatically changed hockey history.

  • Mike | September 23, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    love the facemask…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Jeff P | September 23, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

    Now there’s a find. And in our glorious protector’s size too..

  • KT | September 23, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    Bob Papa, not Popa.

  • cah | September 23, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    Very funny today.

    If Yankee Stadium were in Milwaukee, they’d have torn it down years ago.

  • Mark in Shiga | September 23, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”291186″][quote comment=”291125″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2873495262_106364f54e_b.jpg

    AKA, another Bettman genius marketing plans: Accessory lighting for hockey jerseys… they’ll sell like hot cakes!!!

    That’s a cool pic. Almost looks like they’re wearing lighting on their jerseys.[/quote]

    Different typeface on the 4 for the two guys standing next to each other.[/quote]

    That must be really distracting when you’re trying to follow the puck! The backs of #41 Pineault’s skates have it too.

    It looks like they had to switch the 4 in Willis’ jersey because if they’d used the “Pineault” 4, the crossbar would be higher up and would jut right into the hideous white armpit panel.

    Actually #77 Hendriky has the top of the 7 sticking right into it.

    Ugly.

  • Kirk | September 23, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    Paul could teach this guy a thing or two:

    http://www.sportslin...

  • Dane | September 23, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    Unfortunately, the wrong link is associated with the Panorama picture that I found uni-interesting:

    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_ZP9l::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29538:@@@

    Love the jackets.

    For most fascinating in the sports section, check out this one:

    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_ZP9l::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29457:@@@

    An estimated crowd of 115,000 watching a non-MLB “championship” game – could you imagine this happening today? And the elevated platform behind home plate also rocks.

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”291193″][quote comment=”291182″]
    ‘Useless’ hockey fact of the day: TRETIAK never played in the NHL, but was CHI goalie coach for 6 years.

    Useless to some, never to me :)[/quote]

    More useless hockey trivia re: Tretiak?

    – He was the reason the NHL went from fiberglass facemasks like Plante, Gratton, and Cheevers wore to the hybrid design that Don Dryden designed. During the 1972 Summit Series, designers were amazed at his ability to see pucks everywhere, and, by 1979, Dryden had developed a fiberglass-with-cage design that every goaltender uses today.

    – Tretiak was the goaltender sitting on the bench in 1980 during the “Miracle On Ice” after having been pulled in the first period. Mark Johnson scored a fluky goal, and he was yanked. We all know how that one ended.

    – He was the first Soviet player to be named to the Hockey Hall of Fame, despite never having played in the NHL, in 1989.

    – Ed Belfour, the man who Tretiak tutored in Chicago as a goalie coach, wears #20 in honour of Vladislav Tretiak.

    The man is literally a living legend, and he dramatically changed hockey history.[/quote]

    I’m sure you know this Teebz, but some don’t, it’s the HOCKEY hall of fame. Not the NHL hall of fame. Igor Larionov, the ‘Wayne Greztky’ of Russian hockey he is sometimes called, got into the HHOF on his international merit more than his NHL merit.

    HHOF actually has a whole section of displays for international hockey. Quote a display, lots of stuff from ‘The Miracle on Ice’.

    Funny story (to me anyways): When I played high school hockey I rememeber our coach was giving us a pep talk inbetween periods and asked:

    “Everyone knows what ‘The Miracle on Ice’ is right?”

    When a freshman replied: “Isn’t it that Famous Figure Skater Tour?”

    I immeditally hit him in the head with my stick….

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”291201″][quote comment=”291193″][quote comment=”291182″]
    ‘Useless’ hockey fact of the day: TRETIAK never played in the NHL, but was CHI goalie coach for 6 years.

    Useless to some, never to me :)[/quote]

    More useless hockey trivia re: Tretiak?

    – He was the reason the NHL went from fiberglass facemasks like Plante, Gratton, and Cheevers wore to the hybrid design that Don Dryden designed. During the 1972 Summit Series, designers were amazed at his ability to see pucks everywhere, and, by 1979, Dryden had developed a fiberglass-with-cage design that every goaltender uses today.

    – Tretiak was the goaltender sitting on the bench in 1980 during the “Miracle On Ice” after having been pulled in the first period. Mark Johnson scored a fluky goal, and he was yanked. We all know how that one ended.

    – He was the first Soviet player to be named to the Hockey Hall of Fame, despite never having played in the NHL, in 1989.

    – Ed Belfour, the man who Tretiak tutored in Chicago as a goalie coach, wears #20 in honour of Vladislav Tretiak.

    The man is literally a living legend, and he dramatically changed hockey history.[/quote]

    I’m sure you know this Teebz, but some don’t, it’s the HOCKEY hall of fame. Not the NHL hall of fame. Igor Larionov, the ‘Wayne Greztky’ of Russian hockey he is sometimes called, got into the HHOF on his international merit more than his NHL merit.

    HHOF actually has a whole section of displays for international hockey. Quote a display, lots of stuff from ‘The Miracle on Ice’.

    Funny story (to me anyways): When I played high school hockey I rememeber our coach was giving us a pep talk inbetween periods and asked:

    “Everyone knows what ‘The Miracle on Ice’ is right?”

    When a freshman replied: “Isn’t it that Famous Figure Skater Tour?”

    I immeditally hit him in the head with my stick….[/quote]

    But the HHOF is definitly 99% NHLers…

    Slava Fetisov is also in there more for his international resume than NHL.

  • John T | September 23, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”291193″][quote comment=”291182″]
    ‘Useless’ hockey fact of the day: TRETIAK never played in the NHL, but was CHI goalie coach for 6 years.

    Useless to some, never to me :)[/quote]

    More useless hockey trivia re: Tretiak?

    – He was the reason the NHL went from fiberglass facemasks like Plante, Gratton, and Cheevers wore to the hybrid design that Don Dryden designed. During the 1972 Summit Series, designers were amazed at his ability to see pucks everywhere, and, by 1979, Dryden had developed a fiberglass-with-cage design that every goaltender uses today.

    – Tretiak was the goaltender sitting on the bench in 1980 during the “Miracle On Ice” after having been pulled in the first period. Mark Johnson scored a fluky goal, and he was yanked. We all know how that one ended.

    – He was the first Soviet player to be named to the Hockey Hall of Fame, despite never having played in the NHL, in 1989.

    – Ed Belfour, the man who Tretiak tutored in Chicago as a goalie coach, wears #20 in honour of Vladislav Tretiak.

    The man is literally a living legend, and he dramatically changed hockey history.[/quote]

    Tretiak is one of the reasons I love Hockey, I remember watching Olympics and Canada Cup games (I think that is what it was known as) and he was just incredible. When I went to the HHOF one of the first names I looked for was his. Seeing the jersey made me look up some of his stats, but I also found this.
    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    How many spellings does one russian have? (maybe comrade PL could assist?)

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    It’s funny how yesterday that Paul was branded a Socialist, and now we’re heaping praise on one the men that was so hated during the ’70s and ’80s for representing the Socialists so well.

    Funny how times change, eh?

    Maybe that’s the reason for the “hated” Yankees yesterday? If you can’t beat them, you resent them?

  • John T | September 23, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    sorry, also meant to post this re: Tretiak

    http://www.sports-re...
    (I know Russian spellings are complicated)

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”291205″]sorry, also meant to post this re: Tretiak

    http://www.sports-re...
    (I know Russian spellings are complicated)[/quote]

    The letter “I” is routinely replaced by “Y” in translations due to the different alphabets used. Jaromir Jagr is spelled “Yaromir Yagr” in Russian because they have no soft-J sound in Cyrillic.

  • John T | September 23, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”291204″]It’s funny how yesterday that Paul was branded a Socialist, and now we’re heaping praise on one the men that was so hated during the ’70s and ’80s for representing the Socialists so well.

    Funny how times change, eh?

    Maybe that’s the reason for the “hated” Yankees yesterday? If you can’t beat them, you resent them?[/quote]

    Teebz, you read my mind. Maybe the hockey guys can restore order
    http://blogs.citypag...

  • Giancarlo | September 23, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    One thing that turned me off about Yankee Stadium was the little ritual at the end of the game: if the Yanks won you’d hear Frank Sinatra sing “The Theme from New York, New York”; whereas if the Yanks LOST they’d play Liza Minnelli’s version of the song. Come on! Everyone knows that Liza Minnelli’s version is the superior one. Even the songwriters acknowledge this (they would be John Kander & Fred Ebb, the guys who wrote the songs for Cabaret and Chicago). Liza sings it smooth & rhythmically, with the appropriate pathos. Frank sings it with too much bluster, and awkwardly. He even gets the lyrics wrong. Just another little detail that I think adds to the Yankees organization’s loutish macho image.

  • Mr. Met | September 23, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    Reprint from last night:

    [quote comment=”291106″][quote comment=”291102″][quote comment=”291100″][quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes[/quote]

    Thank you sir – that would have looked MUCH better tonight (socks i mean)[/quote]

    actually…thank you

    i usually pick up on things like that…didn’t even catch it until you asked…(although, i WAS thinking ‘something’ is different about their uni tonight)[/quote]

    Actually, for the last few years the Jets have been wearing the white striped socks with the away whites. I think there was one preseason game last year where they wore the green socks with the away whites, but ever since they introduced the green pants and the striped socks, they have almost exclusively gone with green socks with green tops/white pants, striped socks with green tops/green pants, striped socks with white tops/green pants, and striped socks with white tops/white pants.

    http://imagecache2.a...

    http://imagecache2.a...

    I personally prefer the green socks with the white pants myself.

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”291204″]It’s funny how yesterday that Paul was branded a Socialist, and now we’re heaping praise on one the men that was so hated during the ’70s and ’80s for representing the Socialists so well.

    Funny how times change, eh?

    Maybe that’s the reason for the “hated” Yankees yesterday? If you can’t beat them, you resent them?[/quote]

    Hey, Fedorov! Let us simply bask in the glory that can simply be stated as: Uniforms!

  • Fred | September 23, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    I was surfing around on a random LiveJournal image finder and stumbled on this journal:

    http://thornyc.livej...

    This entry and a good portion of his others are loaded up with Classic College Football program covers.

    This one:
    http://img.photobuck...
    is interesting. It has West Virginia vs. Penn State and one of the schools is wearing Red/White/Silver.

  • TEH | September 23, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”291131″][quote comment=”291122″][quote comment=”291121″]Texas A & M used to have a kickoff team made up of the kicker and ten walk-ons, with the walk-ons all wearing the “12th Man” on their sleeves. I’m not sure if they still have this unit, but that’s where the sleeve emblem came from.[/quote]

    Got it. Thank you!![/quote]

    Now, A & M has just one man on the unit that is a walk-on. The team has tryouts just for the walk-ons at the beginning of the year, and each game one is chosen to be on the kickoff team and represent the 12th Man.

    But, as any Aggie can tell you, the original 12th Man squad was much more fun to watch. It was like having 10 kamikazes/gunners/whatever on the field at once.

    Great post today, Paul. As long as you can laugh at yourself, I don’t really care what political leanings you have.[/quote]

    From what I can remember, there was maybe 1 season or 1 game that had all walk-ons on the kick-off coverage team, but they gave up a TD and the coach (Sherrill?)couldn’t risk having all walk-ons covering kicks anymore.

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    Good to see Cujo back in a TOR uni…

    http://www.nhl.com/n...

    Nice little tribute for the fans:

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|82966708%2c82966063%2c82966059%2c82966057%2c80861491%2c80861483%2c80861477%2c80861474%2c80827615%2c80695754%2c80695727%2c80687663%2c80687662%2c80662194%2c80662193%2c80538464%2c80537960%2c80496668%2c80496663%2c80496659%2c80496658%2c81531922%2c81531918%2c81531903%2c81531893%2c80235751%2c80255922%2c80255917%2c80255916%2c80255915%2c80313710%2c80091017%2c80079505%2c80079388%2c80079382%2c80078982%2c80094197%2c80094194%2c80094193%2c80094185%2c80094133%2c80094120%2c80094114%2c80094113%2c80094112%2c79892379%2c79892367%2c79892357%2c79892338%2c79881964%2c79880208%2c79880197%2c79840600%2c79809213%2c79724655%2c79724560%2c79647250%2c79647248%2c79647245%2c79647244|0&id=82966708

    AKA: We know we suck, please be patient :)

    Hopefully Ron Wilson can get that team going…

  • nididakes | September 23, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    are you out of your mind? that guy in kc looks nothing like the mystery man from yankee stadium. “he has glasses.” oh, right. he’s white, first of all. his chin is a totally different shape. i’m quite disappointed.

  • Matt from L.A. | September 23, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”291200″]Unfortunately, the wrong link is associated with the Panorama picture that I found uni-interesting:

    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_ZP9l::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29538:@@@

    Love the jackets.

    For most fascinating in the sports section, check out this one:

    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_ZP9l::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29457:@@@

    An estimated crowd of 115,000 watching a non-MLB “championship” game – could you imagine this happening today? And the elevated platform behind home plate also rocks.[/quote]

    over 115,000 fans in todays day in age for a non MLB championship game? Yes. March 31, 2008 Boston vs. Los Angeles at the Coliseum in LA. They claimed it set a new record for a baseball game attendance. I was there. It was quite a sight.

  • Joe | September 23, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”291133″][quote comment=”291123″]That Niners helmet IS a really horrible design.[/quote]

    brinke,

    im sure you know this, but in 1991 the niners held a press conference announcing the new helmet…fan reaction was so bad they immediately scrapped it

    this is covered in PL’s FAQ for anyone who hasn’t read it[/quote]

    Actually the press conference was in October 1990. I remember it well because I was up in San Francisco for business and it so happened to be the day in which the A’s were playing the Reds in the World Series, and also the one year anniversary of the Loma Prieta quake of 1989. I recall reading the San Francisco newspaper regarding the press conference announcing the new logo that was held the day before. The main reason that the logo was changed was that the Niners were threatening to leave San Francisco if a new stadium was not built, therefore a generic logo without any city representation.

  • Alex | September 23, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

    LOL….well done today Paul…well played

  • jesse | September 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    How many spellings does one russian have?

    When you translate a Russian name into english or visa versa, you kind of have to do it phonetically because of the different alphabets.

    For instance, there is no hard “J” (as in jesse)sound in the cyrillic alpabet, so when spelling my name in russian, it is replaced by the characters for “duh” and “ch”.

    It is completely possible that when making the translation, different people interpret the sounds differently and use different spellings.

  • Jim MI | September 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”291216″][quote comment=”291133″][quote comment=”291123″]That Niners helmet IS a really horrible design.[/quote]

    brinke,

    im sure you know this, but in 1991 the niners held a press conference announcing the new helmet…fan reaction was so bad they immediately scrapped it

    this is covered in PL’s FAQ for anyone who hasn’t read it[/quote]

    Actually the press conference was in October 1990. I remember it well because I was up in San Francisco for business and it so happened to be the day in which the A’s were playing the Reds in the World Series, and also the one year anniversary of the Loma Prieta quake of 1989. I recall reading the San Francisco newspaper regarding the press conference announcing the new logo that was held the day before. The main reason that the logo was changed was that the Niners were threatening to leave San Francisco if a new stadium was not built, therefore a generic logo without any city representation.[/quote]

    Isn’t 49ers at least a regional representaiton? Be kinda weird rooting for the Carolina 49ers…

  • chance | September 23, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”291211″]This entry and a good portion of his others are loaded up with Classic College Football program covers.

    This one:
    http://img.photobuck...
    is interesting. It has West Virginia vs. Penn State and one of the schools is wearing Red/White/Silver.[/quote]

    Programs of the day often used stock covers – they weren’t necessarily representing the teams playing.

  • John T | September 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”291206″][quote comment=”291205″]sorry, also meant to post this re: Tretiak

    http://www.sports-re...
    (I know Russian spellings are complicated)[/quote]

    The letter “I” is routinely replaced by “Y” in translations due to the different alphabets used. Jaromir Jagr is spelled “Yaromir Yagr” in Russian because they have no soft-J sound in Cyrillic.[/quote]

    Thanks Teebz, but still does not explain this (I tried to post this earlier, but I guess it did not work!)
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Thanks for all the info

  • Tom Servaux | September 23, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”291212] From what I can remember, there was maybe 1 season or 1 game that had all walk-ons on the kick-off coverage team, but they gave up a TD and the coach (Sherrill?)couldn’t risk having all walk-ons covering kicks anymore.[/quote]

    It was Sherrill’s successor, R.C. “Dive-Dive-Shovel Pass-Punt” Slocum who did that, but that was the reason for the change.

    (Of course, right now R.C. doesn’t look so bad, but I digress…)

    IIRC, that was the only time it happened against the 12th Man KO team. Also, IIRC, it was against LSU.

  • steve | September 23, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    I like the “gridiron”
    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_Mifn::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29130:@@@

    [quote comment=”291200″]Unfortunately, the wrong link is associated with the Panorama picture that I found uni-interesting:

    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_ZP9l::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29538:@@@

    Love the jackets.

    For most fascinating in the sports section, check out this one:

    http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_ZP9l::displayType=1:m856sd=pan:m856sf=6a29457:@@@

    An estimated crowd of 115,000 watching a non-MLB “championship” game – could you imagine this happening today? And the elevated platform behind home plate also rocks.[/quote]

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”291216″][quote comment=”291133″][quote comment=”291123″]That Niners helmet IS a really horrible design.[/quote]

    brinke,

    im sure you know this, but in 1991 the niners held a press conference announcing the new helmet…fan reaction was so bad they immediately scrapped it

    this is covered in PL’s FAQ for anyone who hasn’t read it[/quote]

    Actually the press conference was in October 1990. I remember it well because I was up in San Francisco for business and it so happened to be the day in which the A’s were playing the Reds in the World Series, and also the one year anniversary of the Loma Prieta quake of 1989. I recall reading the San Francisco newspaper regarding the press conference announcing the new logo that was held the day before. The main reason that the logo was changed was that the Niners were threatening to leave San Francisco if a new stadium was not built, therefore a generic logo without any city representation.[/quote]

    thanks…guess PL has to update his FAQ then (that’s where i got 1991 from)

  • nididakes | September 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”291219″]Isn’t 49ers at least a regional representaiton? Be kinda weird rooting for the Carolina 49ers…[/quote]

    odd thing to say considering UNC-Charlotte is the 49ers

  • Alex | September 23, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    On the Beckham issue in the ticker. England uses a standard number system when allotting them to their players. It follows this standard. (Most of the time):

    Goalkeeper- 1
    Centerbacks- 5, 6
    Fullbacks- right-2. left 3
    Center midfield- 8, 4
    left midfield- 11
    right midfield- 7
    strikers 10, 9

    Now that can change depending on formation, but it holds true most of the time. When it comes time for a extended tournament like the World Cup players keep their numbers for the duration. In the game against Croatia, youngster Theo Walcott started the game at right midfield so he got the #7 shirt (and a hat trick).

  • Justin B | September 23, 2008 at 12:26 pm |
  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”291222″]
    Thanks Teebz, but still does not explain this (I tried to post this earlier, but I guess it did not work!)
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Thanks for all the info[/quote]

    I have never seen that spelling used. Interesting, though.

    Just as an aside, here’s a list of “translated names” from the KHL you may recognize.

    Martsel Hossa – Marcel Hossa
    Jozef Vashichek – Josef Vasicek
    Branko Radivoevich – Brank Radivojevic
    Jozef Shtumpel – Josef Stumpel
    Raymond Emeri – Ray Emery
    Robert Esh – Robert Esche
    Yaromir Yagr – Jaromir Jagr

  • Al | September 23, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”291208″]Everyone knows that Liza Minnelli’s version is the superior one.[/quote]
    Don’t count me among “everyone.” I can’t stand her version. Perhaps it’s subconcious because I associate it with a Yankee loss, or perhaps it’s just because I’ve known and loved the Sinatra version since I was in diapers.

    To each his own, I guess…

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”291230″]
    Branko Radivoevich – Branko Radivojevic
    [/quote]

    Me + typing = Kryptonite to Superman today.

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”291231″][quote comment=”291208″]Everyone knows that Liza Minnelli’s version is the superior one.[/quote]
    Don’t count me among “everyone.” I can’t stand her version. Perhaps it’s subconcious because I associate it with a Yankee loss, or perhaps it’s just because I’ve known and loved the Sinatra version since I was in diapers.

    To each his own, I guess…[/quote]

    You mean Lucille Austero from this TREMENDOUS TV Show:
    http://upload.wikime...

  • Graf Zeppelin | September 23, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”291231″][quote comment=”291208″]Everyone knows that Liza Minnelli’s version is the superior one.[/quote]
    Don’t count me among “everyone.” I can’t stand her version. Perhaps it’s subconcious because I associate it with a Yankee loss, or perhaps it’s just because I’ve known and loved the Sinatra version since I was in diapers.

    To each his own, I guess…[/quote]

    I’m sorry, but I can’t stand listening to Sinatra. For one, I once worked a game at the Stadium and someone forgot to stop the CD after the game, so the song kept playing over and over and over and over and over…had to be over 20 times.

    For another, his name is attached to THE most corrupt public school in NYC.

  • Mark in Shiga | September 23, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    Teebz, spelling that particular Cyrillic letter (which looks like a reversed R; “ya” for English speakers) as “ja” is common in German and other languages where the sound that we spell with a Y is spelled with a J.

    It’s actually a little better than English-based romanization, because there’s another letter (which looks like “bl”) that is hard to express with any letter but “y”.

    Here’s a list of several different romanization schemes. I sort of like the 1983 GOST version, which makes use of haceks and other diacritical marks so that one Cyrillic letter always equals one Latin letter, while still being readable.

    I thought for sure that the discrepancy in spelling Tretyak’s name would come from the “soft” sound (looks like “b”) that’s before the “ya”. Sometimes they’ll use an apostrophe to indicate it (“Tret’yak”), and other times they’ll leave it out entirely.

  • BCrisp | September 23, 2008 at 1:37 pm |

    As you can tell from the other comments about the 12th Man, it varies from coach to coach on how they use it. Jackie Sherrill really brought it to fame by having the entire kickoff team be walk ons. He would also have multiple number twelves ready to go. pic
    R.C Slocum typically would have one 12th Man for each game. I heard that he offered walk-ons the chance to play one game as the 12th Man, or play the year as a walk-on that may never see the field. Most chose the 12h Man.
    Dennis Franchione would use one 12th Man for the year. He would sometimes use a 12th Man kick off team, that was all walk-ons, during blow outs. But only one number 12.
    Currently, Mike Sherman uses one player for the year as number 12, but hasn’t used a 12th Man kickoff team yet. He plays on kick of returns and is a backup fullback.
    As far as the patch… You can see it on the jerseys on my earlier link. I don’t know if it has been consistently used since then. I do know the patch has been used consistently since 2006 (as far back as I can remember 100%). I’d have to do more research into A&M jersey pictures to see if it has always been sued since the 80s.

  • Rick | September 23, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    I have to apologize for my typo earlier…I meant to say that the mystery guy was NOT the guy in the video. Sorry for that, BUT I do have another take on the mystery guy…How about Bert Campaneris?

    http://www.jerzeyjen...

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”291236″]Teebz, spelling that particular Cyrillic letter (which looks like a reversed R; “ya” for English speakers) as “ja” is common in German and other languages where the sound that we spell with a Y is spelled with a J.

    It’s actually a little better than English-based romanization, because there’s another letter (which looks like “bl”) that is hard to express with any letter but “y”.

    Here’s a list of several different romanization schemes. I sort of like the 1983 GOST version, which makes use of haceks and other diacritical marks so that one Cyrillic letter always equals one Latin letter, while still being readable.

    I thought for sure that the discrepancy in spelling Tretyak’s name would come from the “soft” sound (looks like “b”) that’s before the “ya”. Sometimes they’ll use an apostrophe to indicate it (“Tret’yak”), and other times they’ll leave it out entirely.[/quote]

    Mark, I have never said this before to another man, but I love respect you on a level all your own. LOL!

    Seriously, great answer. I think it’s time I sign up for Russian lessons so that I can explain it better. :o)

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”291239″]
    Mark, I have never said this before to another man, but I respect you on a level all your own. LOL!

    My answer would have looked much more normal and slighly more funny if that damned HTML strikethru option was working.

    But that’s the answer I was trying to give about the translation issues between Cyrillic and English. And you wrote it perfectly. :o)

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”291240″]
    Mark, I have never said this before to another man, but I respect you on a level all your own. LOL!

    My answer would have looked much more normal and slighly more funny if that damned HTML strikethru option was working.

    But that’s the answer I was trying to give about the translation issues between Cyrillic and English. And you wrote it perfectly. :o)[/quote]

    And if I didn’t eff up the quote option. I’m done. Knock on the cellar door if you need me.

  • Matthew D | September 23, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    Damn, much happened since I checked yesterday’s entry right when it went live.

    Luckily, the whole fiasco is easily summarized:
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    Mark, I have never said this before to another man, but I love respect you on a level all your own. LOL!

    fixed for ya teebz

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote]Luckily, the whole fiasco is easily summarized[/quote]

    no it isn’t

  • Shane | September 23, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    http://www.boston.co...

    Red Sox are retiring Johnny Pesky’s #6 this weekend.

  • nicole | September 23, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”291141″][quote comment=”291132″]The Milwaukee Brewers are dropping their West Virginia Class-A affiliiate and finally getting one back in Wisconsin! The Timber Rattlers in Appleton, Wisconsin (long time seattle mariners affiliate) will be their new class A team according to this article:

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    Does this mean a uni change or logo change? I guess time will tell.

    Here is the Timber Rattlers logo”
    http://kfiz.com/uplo...

    Bummer. The WV Power (formerly the Charleston Alley Cats) has a brand new ballpark and decent unis. And multiple mascots! Wonder who’ll pick them up. Oh, and Tuesdays are 2forTuesday. Buy one of anything, get another free. It’s fantastic spending $3.50 on 24oz of beer, and being given 48oz.[/quote]

    They signed with the Pirates last week.

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    Just to let y’all know…this came out on DVD today:
    http://www.sector.il...

    It has been referencesd here as a uni-solid film!

  • BurghFan | September 23, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    Re #51:

    Being a fan is about the present, and the future, not the past. You root for your team to win today, and tomorrow, and hope that when this season ends they (not you) will win it all. And if they don’t, there’s always next year.

    While I understand your point, the past is important too. As a Pirate fan who’s old enough to remember it, the 1979 World Series is important to me for more than six different jerseys in the first three games. I’ll enjoy whatever commemoration the ballclub does of the 100th anniversary of their 1909 Series win (especially if they do a Turn Back the Clock when the Tigers are in).

    When the Bucs win their 82nd game some year, the excitement that will be evident will have everything to do with the 16 (and counting) losing seasons they’ve had. Meantime, I have to make do with some pleasant memories.

  • Mr. Met | September 23, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    “That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.”

    Paul Lukas? No. Hank Steinbrenner on revenue sharing. More gems from Son of The Boss:

    http://weblogs.newsd...

  • Roger Faso | September 23, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”291238″]I have to apologize for my typo earlier…I meant to say that the mystery guy was NOT the guy in the video. Sorry for that, BUT I do have another take on the mystery guy…How about Bert Campaneris?

    http://www.jerzeyjen...

    Not a bad theory.

    Mystery guy is wearing glasses. Bert didn’t.

  • Roger Faso | September 23, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”291251″][quote comment=”291238″]I have to apologize for my typo earlier…I meant to say that the mystery guy was NOT the guy in the video. Sorry for that, BUT I do have another take on the mystery guy…How about Bert Campaneris?

    http://www.jerzeyjen...

    Not a bad theory.

    Mystery guy is wearing glasses. Bert didn’t.[/quote]

    BTW. I never noticed the TV numbers on the Angels, before.

  • TC | September 23, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    Ok, way too many comments to read through so I’m sure it’s been said but dammit the new NHL practice jerseys…Whoever said Tron wouldn’t come back into style is crying right now! TRON!

    Man they suck.

  • LarenR | September 23, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”291156″]I didn’t know that any 49ers helmets with the one-day logo survived. Wow.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...|66%3A2|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14[/quote]
    I’m late to the game today, and don’t have time to catch up on all the comments, so this might have already been mentioned:
    I don’t think that helmet is legit. I remember one of the biggest elements of the uproar was that the facemask on the new helmet was red (as seen in these two pics posted earlier). The ebay item has a gray mask, so I was immediately skeptical of it’s authenticity.

    On the other hand, even if it’s a fake, it might be kinda cool to have, just as a reminder of what might have been (and thankfully wasn’t…although the red facemask did eventually come to pass).

  • Al | September 23, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”291252″]BTW. I never noticed the TV numbers on the Angels, before.[/quote]
    Good pull, Roger. I was thinking the same exact thing when I saw the Campy card.

  • LarenR | September 23, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”291254″][quote comment=”291156″]I didn’t know that any 49ers helmets with the one-day logo survived. Wow.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...|66%3A2|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14[/quote]
    I’m late to the game today, and don’t have time to catch up on all the comments, so this might have already been mentioned:
    I don’t think that helmet is legit. I remember one of the biggest elements of the uproar was that the facemask on the new helmet was red (as seen in these two pics posted earlier). The ebay item has a gray mask, so I was immediately skeptical of it’s authenticity.

    On the other hand, even if it’s a fake, it might be kinda cool to have, just as a reminder of what might have been (and thankfully wasn’t…although the red facemask did eventually come to pass).[/quote]
    umm, oops. Upon actually reading the eBay listing, they acknowledge that it is a “souvenir helmet.” So, yeah, never mind…

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”291244″]Mark, I have never said this before to another man, but I love respect you on a level all your own. LOL!

    fixed for ya teebz[/quote]

    Mucho gracias, Phil. :o)

  • Justin in AR | September 23, 2008 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”291250″]“That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.”

    Paul Lukas? No. Hank Steinbrenner on revenue sharing. More gems from Son of The Boss:

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    Okay, so apparently Hank hates the division setup.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”291258″][quote comment=”291250″]“That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.”

    Paul Lukas? No. Hank Steinbrenner on revenue sharing. More gems from Son of The Boss:

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    Okay, so apparently Hank hates the division setup.[/quote]

    and joe torre

  • DJ | September 23, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    In regards to David Beckham wearing #17 in recent games. From the US Men’s national team soccer blog when they played England “England has a long tradition of putting their starting team in numbers 1-11 in accordance with their position on the field, a practice begun in club football as early as 1908 (at least according to wikipedia – and who doesn’t trust that?). Since Capello refuses to tell anyone who is starting, the equipment guys literally have to print jerseys right up until near kickoff.” So that’s why you see David Beckham and the other subs wearing #’s 12-18, Beckham also wore #15 in prior game before he wore 17

    At the risk of posting something that’s been discussed ad nauseum, during World Cup qualifiers, a team in only allowed 18 players, who must wear numbers 1-18 (new this year). At the Finals in South Africa in 2010, teams are allowed 23 players, who wear 1-23.

  • Matthew D | September 23, 2008 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”291245″][quote]Luckily, the whole fiasco is easily summarized[/quote]

    no it isn’t[/quote]

    If you really think anyone is listening to each other, then I am jealous of your faith in humanity. If you think you can change other people’s opinions, then you either have too much faith in humanity or you really think highly of yourself.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”291261″][quote comment=”291245″][quote]Luckily, the whole fiasco is easily summarized[/quote]

    no it isn’t[/quote]

    If you really think anyone is listening to each other, then I am jealous of your faith in humanity. If you think you can change other people’s opinions, then you either have too much faith in humanity or you really think highly of yourself.[/quote]

    um…i was kind of expecting something along the lines of “yes it is”

  • Robert | September 23, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”291258″][quote comment=”291250″]“That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.”

    Paul Lukas? No. Hank Steinbrenner on revenue sharing. More gems from Son of The Boss:

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    Okay, so apparently Hank hates the division setup.[/quote]

    I am with Hank when it comes to the playoffs. Give me no playoffs. The team with the best record in each league goes to the World Series, and the rest go hungry. That way the best teams go to the World Series, and not just the hottest teams. Leave the playoffs for the inferior sports.

  • rob | September 23, 2008 at 4:04 pm |

    New Orlando Magic uniforms unvieled today

    http://blogs.orlando...

  • Skycat | September 23, 2008 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”291139″]I think the guy in the All star picture is Amos Otis maybe with a Reggie/Mariners uniform switch. I cant seem to find Amos anywhere else in the picture.[/quote]
    I always thought it was Ron Guidry.

  • Pete | September 23, 2008 at 4:22 pm |

    Paul:

    Oh, sure, you can poke fun at yesterday’s brouhaha (I’ve always wanted to use “brouhaha” in a sentence) using all of the strike-throughs, but we’re ON TO you, Lukas!

    You throw in a “harmless” bit about the Idaho cheerleaders near the end of the Ticker. Then when all of us upstanding, Yankee-loving, Sinatra-adoring, Steinbrenner-admiring REAL Americans click the link, we’re hit with the horror you’ve surreptitiously sent us to:

    “…the university in Moscow got complaints…”

    MOSCOW! You sent us to a reference to that dreaded city of Moscow, you pinko Commmie sympathizer! I know it’s Moscow, Idaho, but Idaho is practically in Canada, and just the name “Moscow,” it’s…it’s…well, I need a shower now. And while I’m showering, I think I’ll belt out a rousing 27-minute version of [i]God Bless America[/i].

  • chance | September 23, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”291263″][quote comment=”291258″][quote comment=”291250″]“That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.”

    Paul Lukas? No. Hank Steinbrenner on revenue sharing. More gems from Son of The Boss:

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    Okay, so apparently Hank hates the division setup.[/quote]

    I am with Hank when it comes to the playoffs. Give me no playoffs. The team with the best record in each league goes to the World Series, and the rest go hungry. That way the best teams go to the World Series, and not just the hottest teams. Leave the playoffs for the inferior sports.[/quote]

    Cannot agree. The playoffs give tremendous life to the last months of the season.

    I was opposed to the Wild Card until last year, which was amazing. Enough to make me a full-fledged convert.

  • Pete | September 23, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    Whoops…wrong format…that should read God Bless America.

  • Patrick | September 23, 2008 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”291268″][quote comment=”291263″][quote comment=”291258″][quote comment=”291250″]“That’s a system I don’t particularly like. It’s a socialist system, and I don’t agree with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is it even American? I’d argue no on both of those points.”

    Paul Lukas? No. Hank Steinbrenner on revenue sharing. More gems from Son of The Boss:

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    Okay, so apparently Hank hates the division setup.[/quote]

    I am with Hank when it comes to the playoffs. Give me no playoffs. The team with the best record in each league goes to the World Series, and the rest go hungry. That way the best teams go to the World Series, and not just the hottest teams. Leave the playoffs for the inferior sports.[/quote]

    Cannot agree. The playoffs give tremendous life to the last months of the season.

    I was opposed to the Wild Card until last year, which was amazing. Enough to make me a full-fledged convert.[/quote]

    Agreed, the playoffs aren’t going anywhere and the Wild Card has made things more interesting in the final stretch of the season. However, I’d like to see more reward bestowed to the teams with the best records, and maybe more handicap to the wild cards (or maybe to the playoff team with the worst record, even it it’s a division winner…), so that the post season doesn’t just reward who’s playing the hottest.

  • Taha | September 23, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”291267″]
    I need a shower now. And while I’m showering, I think I’ll belt out a rousing 27-minute version of God Bless America.[/quote]

    To each his own. While I’m showering, I’ll be thinking of them

  • Ron V | September 23, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    Paul. That little strike through post was childish. I thought you were brighter then that.

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”291267″]… Idaho is practically in Canada…[/quote]

    We don’t really need potato country, but thanks for the offer. After all, we have Prince Edward Island. ;o)

    As much as we appreciate yesterday’s comment helping our immigration and population statistics, I believe Idaho is happy right where they are. Besides, we rightfully should own Florida and Arizona with the number of Canadian senior citizens living there in the winter. LOL!

  • Teebz | September 23, 2008 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”291272″]Paul. That little strike through post was childish. I thought you were brighter then that.[/quote]

    How bright do you have to be to appreciate intellectual comedy?

  • Nicholas | September 23, 2008 at 5:38 pm |

    Paul is gonna love this….http://startwearingp...

  • Justin in AR | September 23, 2008 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”291275″]Paul is gonna love this….http://startwearingp...

    Dude, COME ON!

  • Minna H. | September 23, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    Comrade Paul, thank you for my daily dose of chuckles–I surely needed it with the sky falling down all around us.

    However, I do have one question communist regime: Am I not allowed to win raffles as I am not a guy and cannot have ‘his’ choice of prizes? Then, I turn my back on Mother Russia and refuse to ever wear pink again! Not that anyone should. There is no pink in sports! At least, there shouldn’t be.

    Oh, and to all who feel the need to comment about not reading any more or how the site isn’t what you want, see ya–I certainly won’t miss ya.

  • =bg= | September 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”291133″][quote comment=”291123″]That Niners helmet IS a really horrible design.[/quote]

    brinke,

    im sure you know this, but in 1991 the niners held a press conference announcing the new helmet…fan reaction was so bad they immediately scrapped it

    this is covered in PL’s FAQ for anyone who hasn’t read it[/quote]

    Yeah I remember when they unveiled it. It lasted all of like 24 hours. HA! Focus groups!

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”291277″]There is no pink in sports! At least, there shouldn’t be.[/quote]

    except of course, this

    pink AND purple

    /*takes footy soccer off list of major sports*

  • Michael Emody | September 23, 2008 at 6:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”291128″]Does anyone have an image of the current Idaho cheerleader uniforms that are being described as “too skimpy”?

    What kind of a fan would complain?[/quote]

    Could it have been Larry Craig?

  • The Hemogoblin | September 23, 2008 at 6:42 pm |

    Today was my first ever raffle that I entered multiple times. Yay for giving Paul a bigger budget!

  • Mike Burnett | September 23, 2008 at 6:51 pm |

    a few years back I attended an Indians home game and had the opportunity to sit next to the right field ball boy (I had front row seats, and his stool was right in front of me). When I was in Jr. High, I was the batboy for the Midland Angels (AA for the Cali. Angels), so the Indians batboy and I struck up a conversation about how the Indians did things vs. the AA club in the 80s. One thing that he mentioned was that all the batboys at the Jake were employees of the Indians, and that they had a full set of visiting uniforms for the batboys to wear, depending on the team.

    Why is this important, well with husky mystery batboy in the photos, it is possible that it is the same guy…wearing different road unis for the different visiting clubs.

    Just a thought.

  • bp | September 23, 2008 at 6:54 pm |

    Paul = hypocrite.

  • Flip | September 23, 2008 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”291172″][quote comment=”291164″]This probably got lost in all the comments last night. I have a question regarding the SOD. When the System of Dress was introduced, Nike made a big deal out of how each uniform was unique besides the number and NOB. Something like the players’ names were threaded into the fabric or something.In the case of Florida, the fabric resembled gator scales. Is there still some individualism in the uniforms? If so, what is it?[/quote]

    Say, were you ever a Wildcat?

    Sad to say, no!

    That original Florida kit was scrapped by Messrs. Horford, Brewer, Green, Noah, and the other guy who could make threes from anywhere in Gainesville, Humphrey, I think.

    they wore it but a few times, I think at the ned of the season and once in the SEC tourney and said Adios!

    They were the only unique one in my eyes.

    I was thoroughly disappointed with Oregon’s and Syracuse’s entry, however loved TOSU and K-State![/quote]

  • The Hemogoblin | September 23, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”291283″]Paul = hypocrite.[/quote]

    Sarcasm kills.

  • Johnny F. | September 23, 2008 at 7:14 pm |

    Re: The hockey practice jerseys

    I purchased a new black Columbus Blue Jackets practice jersey the other day (really cheap online). The logo on the front right shoulder/chest looks identical to the non-RBK practice jerseys in the picture. It is a CCM jersey, and the logo says “NHL” in the middle, with “Center” on the top, and “Ice” on the bottom. Seems like a patch to promote NHL’s “Center Ice” sattelite T.V. package.

  • Donny | September 23, 2008 at 7:17 pm |

    Former Minnesota Vikings linebacker Wally Hilgenberg passed away today. No word if there will be a memorial of some kind on the Vikings’ jerseys the rest of the year, but I’m sure there will be.

    R.I.P. Number 58.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 7:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”291283″]Paul = hypocrite.[/quote]

    don’t suppose you’d actually like to expound upon that thought…

  • Mr. Met | September 23, 2008 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”291274″][quote comment=”291272″]Paul. That little strike through post was childish. I thought you were brighter then that.[/quote]

    How bright do you have to be to appreciate intellectual comedy?[/quote]

    It was intellectually comedic the first two or three times. By the time it got to about 8-9 times, it got a little old.

    In my humble opinion, of course.

  • Ben | September 23, 2008 at 7:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”291289″][quote comment=”291283″]Paul = hypocrite.[/quote]

    don’t suppose you’d actually like to expound upon that thought…[/quote]
    no, brain hurts

  • Jeremy Brahm | September 23, 2008 at 7:40 pm |

    You also forgot the Palermo soccer team in Serie A with it’s pink and black scheme.

    http://www.ilpalermo...

  • Mike D | September 23, 2008 at 7:42 pm |

    This is what happens when you wear a Yankees jersey with a NOB:

    http://i378.photobuc...

    Credit goes to TinoGirl24 for the picture.

  • The Hemogoblin | September 23, 2008 at 7:52 pm |

    It’s Jim, not jim, Paul.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 7:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”291280″][quote comment=”291128″]Does anyone have an image of the current Idaho cheerleader uniforms that are being described as “too skimpy”?

    What kind of a fan would complain?[/quote]

    Could it have been Larry Craig?[/quote]

    isn’t he married to liza minelli?

  • tom farley | September 23, 2008 at 9:23 pm |

    isn’t he married to liza minelli?

    He has a wide stance, LI Phil!

  • Chad | September 23, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”291220″][quote comment=”291211″]This entry and a good portion of his others are loaded up with Classic College Football program covers.

    This one:
    http://img.photobuck...
    is interesting. It has West Virginia vs. Penn State and one of the schools is wearing Red/White/Silver.[/quote]

    Programs of the day often used stock covers – they weren’t necessarily representing the teams playing.[/quote]

    Also, Penn State’s team colors used to be pink and black, but the uniforms faded (black turned to navy, pink turned to white) and the school decided to adopt these new colors. But depending on the date of that program, it could be just a stock print.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    thank you johan

  • Patrick S. | September 23, 2008 at 10:41 pm |

    [quote comment=\”291282\”] his stool was right in front of me). [/quote]

    Yikes! Bad visual!

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 11:21 pm |

    pretty cool shirt pete carroll is sporting

    /wonder if it’s part of his clothing line

  • Johnny O | September 23, 2008 at 11:51 pm |

    All right. I love the Brewers, and I love when they win, and I even love when they un-tuck their jersey in a win, but after hitting a walk off home run tonight, Prince Fielder started un-tucking his jersey just after rounding 1st base, and then kept un-tucking it throughout his home run trot. This, even for me, is a little far. At least wait until you are at home to un-tuck it. The Brewers commentators were loving it though saying, “Un-tuck that jersey big boy!”.

    Oh well, at least they won. It’s gonna be a fun week for us LI Phil! I have a hard time cheering against your Mets, but the Brew Crew MUST make the playoffs. How about Philly loses every game out and the Crew win every game out, and the Mets win four of five? “Win, win, win” conflict resolution!

    Prince:
    http://i147.photobuc...

    http://i147.photobuc...

  • LI Phil | September 24, 2008 at 12:03 am |

    [quote]It’s gonna be a fun week for us LI Phil![/quote]

    i hear ya buddy…i DIED this week one year ago…i can’t take another…and man…when hello MOTA gave up that blast, i was actually thinkin’ to myself…NOW johnny O knows what mets fans went through last season

    it’ll take a miracle for BOTH the crew and the amazins to get in, but stranger things have happened…mets are only 1.5 back of the fightins and brew are only 2.5 back of them…

    i can only hope sweet lou actually wants to play the mets (as the WC) and tanks the next two…if the crew take the WC, then the cubbies get the duds

    f the phils, i say! ;)

  • Ben Neureuther | September 24, 2008 at 12:22 am |

    the Bucks finnaly unvieled their red alternates. big props for putting “Milwaukee” on them. They look SHARP

  • Ben Neureuther | September 24, 2008 at 12:22 am |
  • LI Phil | September 24, 2008 at 12:29 am |

    ok…

    this has GOT to stop

    like johnny o said…AT LEAST wait till you touch home

  • Teebz | September 24, 2008 at 1:02 am |

    [quote comment=”291290″][quote comment=”291274″][quote comment=”291272″]Paul. That little strike through post was childish. I thought you were brighter then that.[/quote]

    How bright do you have to be to appreciate intellectual comedy?[/quote]

    It was intellectually comedic the first two or three times. By the time it got to about 8-9 times, it got a little old.

    In my humble opinion, of course.[/quote]

    Oh, it got old? Kinda like how yesterday people called Paul a Socialist, a Communist, a fascist, a liar, a hypocrite, a prick, a jerk, et cetera?

    Yeah, it got old. Real fast. That’s why Paul’s comedic irony today was so clever. He stuck it to everyone who crapped on him yesterday because he knew you’d all come back to see what he wrote today. Isn’t that ironic, don’cha think?

    Tune in next week when I’ll give a full pedagogy on comedy, and how it can be used effectively to convey a message. After all, a lesson taught with humor is a lesson retained.

    Well done, Paul.

  • Scooter | September 24, 2008 at 2:28 am |

    Idaho is getting new cheerleader uniforms.
    useless post without pictures!!!!!!

  • Scooter | September 24, 2008 at 2:29 am |

    Idaho is getting new cheerleader uniforms. Useless post without pictures!!!!

  • LI Phil | September 24, 2008 at 2:37 am |

    [quote]Isn’t that ironic, don’cha think?[/quote]

    a little too ironic

    /i really do think

  • Brillo Williams | September 24, 2008 at 7:58 am |

    [quote comment=”291307″][quote comment=”291290″][quote comment=”291274″][quote comment=”291272″]Paul. That little strike through post was childish. I thought you were brighter then that.[/quote]

    How bright do you have to be to appreciate intellectual comedy?[/quote]

    It was intellectually comedic the first two or three times. By the time it got to about 8-9 times, it got a little old.

    In my humble opinion, of course.[/quote]

    Oh, it got old? Kinda like how yesterday people called Paul a Socialist, a Communist, a fascist, a liar, a hypocrite, a prick, a jerk, et cetera?

    Yeah, it got old. Real fast. That’s why Paul’s comedic irony today was so clever. He stuck it to everyone who crapped on him yesterday because he knew you’d all come back to see what he wrote today. Isn’t that ironic, don’cha think?

    Tune in next week when I’ll give a full pedagogy on comedy, and how it can be used effectively to convey a message. After all, a lesson taught with humor is a lesson retained.

    Well done, Paul.[/quote]

    Wow, could anyone have their lips more firmly planted on Lukas’ ass?

    I like how you conveniently ignore the fact that he guy said it was funny at first and decide to lecture us all on the value of comedy. Hey, I thought it was funny too. I didn’t think it went overboard. But obviously someone did. And he’s probably not the only one. And just like people crapped all over Paul for his opinion, you crap all over this guy.

    You may think Paul’s “comedic irony” was clever. I thought it was clever too. It certainly made me laugh, I will say that. But I can also see the flip side, which is maybe it got a little overbearing. Or maybe someone else thought it was childish. To each his own.

    I may not agree with it, but I’ll try to accept and/or appreciate every opinion. As opposed to taking your tact, which is to defend Lukas and basically dismiss the two people who said they weren’t into what he did. One of whom (Mr. Met) actually defended Paul the day before. What, does the love for Paul have to be such that it doesn’t allow a contrary opinion the following day?

    Let Lukas defend himself. He reads every post and will chime in with his own thoughts when he feels appropriate. He’s a grown man.

    Your hockey stuff is great Teebz, and invaluable to this site. But sometimes you really come off like a Grade A jerk with some of your responses.

  • Teebz | September 24, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”291311″]
    Your hockey stuff is great Teebz, and invaluable to this site. But sometimes you really come off like a Grade A jerk with some of your responses.[/quote]

    I am a Grade A jerk when people bitch and complain about the same crap over and over again. Every time Paul has an opinion of his own on something other than uniforms, people lose their freaking minds on this site.

    Is he not entitled to an opinion? Can he not write about what he likes? Can he not sprinkle in some social commentary about something other than uniforms? Is he a terrorist for commenting on the social metaphor that Yankee Stadium means to HIM?

    Yet when he does, people label HIM as a Communist. He’s not allowed to express HIS opinion. He can’t speak about what HE thinks.

    I guess it’s all about perspective. Which side of the window are you looking from?

  • tom farley | September 24, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    the Bucks finnaly unvieled their red alternates. big props for putting “Milwaukee” on them. They look SHARP
    Those do look sharp, Ben Neureuther. I love the use of “Milwaukee.” It recalls the early Kareem/Big O years. I was so glad when they ditched purple and went back to the original colors.

  • Brillo Williams | September 24, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”291339″][quote comment=”291311″]
    Your hockey stuff is great Teebz, and invaluable to this site. But sometimes you really come off like a Grade A jerk with some of your responses.[/quote]

    I am a Grade A jerk when people bitch and complain about the same crap over and over again. Every time Paul has an opinion of his own on something other than uniforms, people lose their freaking minds on this site.

    Is he not entitled to an opinion? Can he not write about what he likes? Can he not sprinkle in some social commentary about something other than uniforms? Is he a terrorist for commenting on the social metaphor that Yankee Stadium means to HIM?

    Yet when he does, people label HIM as a Communist. He’s not allowed to express HIS opinion. He can’t speak about what HE thinks.

    I guess it’s all about perspective. Which side of the window are you looking from?[/quote]

    I never said he’s not entitled to an opinion. My whole point was that you hate when Lukas gets bashed for expressing his opinion. Fair enough. And yet the following day, a couple of people expressed a contrary opinion to what you, and I GUESS the majority of readers, felt, mainly that Paul had somehow “stuck it” to the naysayers from the day before in an “intellectually comedic” manner, and you couldn’t wait to get on them. Including one who committed the cardinal sin of opining that it was funny, but he felt that it got to be a bit much at the end.

    And the comments in question had absolutely nothing to do with the prior day’s topic. A couple of people said they duidn’t like what Paul did in the Ticker. Fair enough. No one responded, and no one was probably going to respond. Save for you, with (a what I can only assume you considered) a witty response, but which instead came across as extremely condescending. Yes, this is Paul’s blog. Yes he’s entitled to his opinion. Yes, it’s messed up when people carve him up over his opinion. We get all that.

    What, is Lukas your boyfriend? Is there some sort of “My Bodyguard” thing going on there? He has a keyboard with which to defend himself. So let him. Which he always does. Why respond to people in such a pompous manner?

  • Teebz | September 24, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”291423″]
    What, is Lukas your boyfriend? Is there some sort of “My Bodyguard” thing going on there? He has a keyboard with which to defend himself. So let him. Which he always does.[/quote]

    Except that there’s one of him and many of us. Which, again, was the ENTIRE REASON for all the strikethrus due to the immense number of accusation people threw out at him yesterday. Are we finished arguing in circles?

    [quote comment=”291423″]Why respond to people in such a pompous manner?[/quote]

    If my response was pompous, how pompous is it to accuse a red-blooded, baseball-loving, apple-pie-eating, Star-Spangled-Banner-singing, patriotic American living in NYC – the one place where the heartbeat of America has lived since September 11, 2002 – as being a Communist/Socialist/Fascist?

  • Teebz | September 24, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”291467″][quote comment=”291423″]
    What, is Lukas your boyfriend? Is there some sort of “My Bodyguard” thing going on there? He has a keyboard with which to defend himself. So let him. Which he always does.[/quote]

    Except that there’s one of him and many of us. Which, again, was the ENTIRE REASON for all the strikethrus due to the immense number of accusation people threw out at him yesterday. Are we finished arguing in circles?

    [quote comment=”291423″]Why respond to people in such a pompous manner?[/quote]

    If my response was pompous, how pompous is it to accuse a red-blooded, baseball-loving, apple-pie-eating, Star-Spangled-Banner-singing, patriotic American living in NYC – the one place where the heartbeat of America has lived since September 11, 2001 – as being a Communist/Socialist/Fascist?[/quote]

    Whoa… hire a typist or read before hitting “Say It!” button. Sorry, NYC!