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Bobby Bonilla Isn’t the Only One Who Can Show You the Bronx

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Whatever you think of the House the Ruth Built, its impending demise has had at least one salutary side effect: New York’s tabloid papers have been publishing plenty of historically minded retrospective articles filled with, as Scott M.X. Turner puts it, “lots of photo yumminess.” Scott noted some interesting pics in this past Sunday’s Daily News, and reader Eric Hoey found something truly astonishing in Sunday’s Post. Let’s take a look:

• Scott describes the memorial armband in this Joe D. photo as “the world’s thickest mourning strip” (also, note the belt buckle disappearing into the belt tunnel). Interestingly, I had a similar comment last August about this Joe D. jersey, which was displayed in the Museum of the City of New York’s “Glory Days” exhibit. The two jerseys aren’t the same, obviously, since one is home and one is road, but the Yankee Clipper apparently liked his armbands extra-wide.

• Remember my recent blog entry about the “ruptured duck” honorable discharge patch, which several Cubs players wore in 1945? At the time, I mentioned that Red Ruffing of the Yankees also wore the patch, but I didn’t have a photo. Now, however, thanks to Scott and the Daily News, I do.

• “Forgit the beauties here,” says Scott. “Check out the different number fonts. Yankees fans forget — or more likely don’t know — that the Yanks and Red Sox shared that ‘Red Sox font’ for much of the Ruth/Gehrig/DiMaggio eras.”

• Here’s the real prize, spotted by Eric in Sunday’s Post: The Yanks won the 1932 World Series, so they raised their championship banner on Opening Day in 1933 (exactly 75 years ago today, coincidentally). And what were the players wearing there in the foreground? Check it out: Yankees capes! How cool is that?! Or maybe they were blankets, because I found this shot of Babe Ruth from an exhibition game a few days earlier — same white trim as the capes had, although the capes looked shinier. Anyway, we’ve all seen sideline capes in football, but I’ve never seen or heard of anything like this on a baseball field. Anyone know of any other examples? (Oh, and that other team across the way? That would be the Boston Red Sox, who had no idea how many decades of frustration lay ahead of them.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: Cool socks worn by Kiara Franciso of Winter Haven High School in Florida (with thanks to Bob Rios). … Dave Concepcion not only wore No. 13, he also wrapped a Friday the 13th calendar page around the barrel of his bat! … “I grabbed this off the trailer for the Love Guru movie,” writes Carl Carlson-Drexler. “It looks like they’ve got Justin Timberlake wearing an old fiberglass mask, which would be slightly anachronistic — and bizarre, since they seem to have a lot of other things pegged (down to the Stanley Cup playoff patches).” … Check out the unusual downhill insignia worn by the 1924 Waterloo Hawks (the latest contribution from photo-historian David Eskenazi). … Good catch by Jere Smith, who was watching a replay of Mike Witt’s perfect game (September 30th, 1984) and noticed that all of the Angels had vertically arched NOB lettering — except for Reggie Jackson, whose lettering was radially arched. I couldn’t find any other 1984 rear-view pics of Reggie, so I’m not sure if this was a one-game aberration or something more extensive. Anyone know more? … Sharp-eyed Brett Crane notes that home plate ump Joe West was wearing two sets of memorial initials during last night’s Angels/Rangers game. The “EG” is for Eric Gregg, I’m sure, and I’m assuming that the “SC” is for former National League ump Shag Crawford, who died last summer. … Reader Paul Wiederecht was in town over the weekend and joined me for a beer. I paid for the suds, which was the least I could do after he presented me with a pair of genuine Mets stirrups, circa 1980. … While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys? Also note the NCAA patch, just like in the hoops tourney, and check out the uni numbers on the sleeves. And although I didn’t manage to get a photo, I just about slit my wrists when I saw one of the Maryland girls wearing one of those thin Nike swoosh bands on her upper calf (just like the ones being worn by most of the guys in this shot). … Max Rosenthal says this page features “a good roundup of/commentary on the shirts to be worn at Euro 2008 (the European soccer championship),” and I’ll take his word for it cuz I’m too busy right now to actually read the page. … I’m not the only one who has issues with corporate sponsorship (with thanks to Tom Konecny). … Jeremy Brahm reports that the Japanese softball team for this summer’s Olympics will look like this.

 

192 comments to Bobby Bonilla Isn’t the Only One Who Can Show You the Bronx

  • justin | April 15, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    so i guess Japan is red, white, and blue now too?

  • Kyle O | April 15, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    Scrolling through Ebay yesterday and saw this I didn’t realize they made them for teams other than the bears. As A clevelander this qas quite a surprise.

  • Kyle O | April 15, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    Scrolling through Ebay yesterday and saw this I didn’t realize they made them for teams other than the bears. As A clevelander this was quite a surprise.

  • =bg= | April 15, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    Fox reports on teams with throwback fever.

  • Al | April 15, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    Regarding the placing of logos on soccer jerseys:

    Lotto, for years, were allowed to put their logos on the sleeves of the jersey (so that, if you couldn’t tell from the front, you were seeing a Lotto kit in action). Puma’s shoulder creep is something I think we’re going to see a lot of; it’s just like adidas’ three stripes for Greece, you know?

    Also, many kit manufacturers (esp. in England) have put the front logo much higher (above the clavicle instead of at the sternum) this year, presumably to make it unavoidable that the logo be shown when a player’s picture is snapped during an EPL match.

  • Mark K | April 15, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    That Yanks dugout photo seems to show they didn’t have consistent numbers amongst the players. The 36 and 25(?) don’t match the 39.

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    did anyone else find the story (next to last ticker item) on corporate sponsorship, which in no small part bemoaned the passage from shea to citifield, featured an AD smack in the middle of the story of a home show, sponsored by chase?

    delicious irony or sardonic reality?

  • Tyler | April 15, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    In that Oregon football picture, doesn’t that look an awful lot like Dennis Dixon on the right wearing #55? The only #55 listed on UO’s roster is a linebacker named Casey Matthews, and he, uh…doesn’t look like Dennis Dixon:

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment=”252601″]That Yanks dugout photo seems to show they didn’t have consistent numbers amongst the players. The 36 and 25(?) don’t match the 39.[/quote]
    Exactly. “Check out the different number fonts,” writes Scott.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 15, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    Paul won’t like this one: check out David Wright’s threads during Monday night’s taping of the Late Show with David Letterman (scroll half way down the page to see pic):

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Hank | April 15, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    The downhill insignia on the Waterloo Hawks’ uniforms is not that unusual. As we know, water flows downhill.

  • Marc M. | April 15, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts,

    What is your definition of skimpy? Before shorts all the sudden had to come down to your knee, shorts like those were normal.

  • Carl G | April 15, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

    What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”

  • Mike Edgerly | April 15, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    Paul,

    Here’s the photo of the girl from Winter Haven High (vs Tampa King). The link above didn’t work.

  • Ed R. | April 15, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    All this over a stadium that they tore down in the mid 1970s.

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    [quote]While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships.[/quote]

    dude…you DVR’ed it…don’t try to play coy

  • Paul Lukas | April 15, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”252610″]While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

    What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”[/quote]

    Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

  • MH | April 15, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

    Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?

  • T-Wood | April 15, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    Posted this yesterday so it was pretty late. Here is a video about Hawaii’s new Under Armor uniforms.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • teamcinnamon | April 15, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    What exactly is the point for those thin bands?

    Like, do they serve any purpose, i.e. tendon support?

  • Jason Gomez | April 15, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    In that image that is not a nike sweat band. It is a brace worn around the bottom of the knee to prevent swelling around the patella (knee cap) and also helps with those with Meniscus problems.

  • MH | April 15, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.

  • Neil | April 15, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Watching the Ohio State-Purdue softball game the other day I noticed that some OSU players had a swoosh on the tips of their belts. No screen grab, (un)fortunately

  • Terri | April 15, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    I don’t know if it applies to bowling, but I may be able to give a little insight into the whole skirt wearing thing. I’ve posted this before, but it’s been awhile.
    I know that where field hockey is concerned, when it became an accetable women’s parlor game in the early 1900s, in was still not acceptable for women to wear shorts or pants, so they wore long skirts (check out the link below).
    By the time it was OK for women to wear shorts, the skirts had become tradition, so while some teams switched to sports, most just shortened the skirts. I have no clue as to the history of bowling or its unis, but maybe it’s the same thing.

    Old school f.h. unis

  • Kim | April 15, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    Thank you Japan for showing us why softball should be eliminated from the Olympics.

  • Terri | April 15, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    Just correcting my post- instead of “while some teams switched to sports”, it should read “while some teams switched to shorts.”

  • al | April 15, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    btw … i too caught the bowling and it was high comedy … they all stand behind the bowler (as seen in the pics) and go nuts after every strike (or spare).

  • Buccigross Fan Club | April 15, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.

  • teamcinnamon | April 15, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

    I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

    So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?

  • Paul Lukas | April 15, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.

  • Darren | April 15, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    Hey, I know the Concepcion photo with the “13 bat” is from a legitimate source, but am I the only one that looked at it and thought that might be a classic example of a “Picture That Looks PhotoShopped, but Really Isn’t?”

  • Like the River | April 15, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    On the picture of Waterloo, it looks like the guys on the ends don’t have their logo going down but normal, maybe they are the managers. and as for the browns sweatshirt on ebay, isn’t that what Belichick wore when he was coaching in Cleveland?

  • Carl G | April 15, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”252614″][quote comment=”252610″]While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

    What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”[/quote]

    Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.[/quote]

    I understand that, but there is a vast difference between the shorts mens volleyball players wear and women’s volleyball players wear

    compare

    https://www.purchase...

    with

    http://i114.photobuc...

  • Hank | April 15, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”252618″]What exactly is the point for those thin bands?

    Like, do they serve any purpose, i.e. tendon support?[/quote]
    I think they are for patella support. Although the link is for tennis-related items, they look very similar.

  • Carl G | April 15, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”252633″][quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.[/quote]

    And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.

  • Joe Pepitone | April 15, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”252636″][quote comment=”252614″][quote comment=”252610″]While channel-flipping last night, I was surprised to stumble across the NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts. Can’t they just wear slacks, like the guys?

    What I find interesting is if this was a women’s college volleyball game, where all the ladies seem to be in much better shape, I do not think you would be asking them to wear slacks. When women’s volleyball pictures have been posted in the past, where they wear the really short shorts, no one says “why can’t they wear what the men wear”[/quote]

    Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.[/quote]

    I understand that, but there is a vast difference between the shorts mens volleyball players wear and women’s volleyball players wear

    compare

    https://www.purchase...

    with

    http://i114.photobuc...

    Hmm, I don’t think I quite understand. Perhaps someone could post more pictures of women in volleyball shorts. :)

  • interlockingtc | April 15, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    The photo of Babe Ruth in the dugout is extraordinary. Look at the exquisite folds and textures in that blanket. The shadows and light. The composition. Ruth’s pensive expression. He looks like Christ contemplating his fate after Judas took his exit from the Last Supper. (Or maybe he’s just really cold, I dunno.)

  • Rhoda Morgenstern | April 15, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    Yeah what is up with that same font in the early days by the Yanks and Sox?

  • chance | April 15, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”252603″]did anyone else find the story (next to last ticker item) on corporate sponsorship, which in no small part bemoaned the passage from shea to citifield, featured an AD smack in the middle of the story of a home show, sponsored by chase?

    delicious irony or sardonic reality?[/quote]

    Neither, actually. The paper is a private enterprise, and he’s bemoaning placing corporate names on public spaces.

    Maybe Citi Field isn’t the best example, since the Mets paid for most of it themselves. But the City of New York still owns it, so comparisons with the Detroit Free Press don’t really hold.

  • Kek | April 15, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?

  • se | April 15, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    So I was watching the Red Wings give up three goals in the last four minutes of the third to blow their win against the Preds last night on hockeywebcasts.com (which I recently discovered since I’m shafted by Versus), and I noticed the captain’s patch on Lidstrom’s jersey is sewn over a seam on his left chest… Now didn’t they have to do the whole switch-sides shpeel for the captain’s patch *because* of it not fitting without going over the seams? I know this is obvious on other team’s jerseys but still… This makes me a sad puppy.

  • JJD | April 15, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    “It looks like they’ve got Justin Timberlake wearing an old fiberglass mask, which would be slightly anachronistic — and bizarre, since they seem to have a lot of other things pegged (down to the Stanley Cup playoff patches).”

    But it makes sense for the movie – if they show a bunch of free-flowing hockey action with a stunt double, you would be able to tell easier if he wore a current-style facemask. This way, like in Miracle, they can have a stunt goalie make the saves then close-up of JT’s face after he flips the mask back up.

    Of course, Timberlake is so talented, I wonder why they didn’t choreograph the hockey scene minus the puck, then go back in an add the puck digitally. It’s not like you would have been able to tell, and I’m sure they could have pulled it off.

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”252643″][quote comment=”252603″]did anyone else find the story (next to last ticker item) on corporate sponsorship, which in no small part bemoaned the passage from shea to citifield, featured an AD smack in the middle of the story of a home show, sponsored by chase?

    delicious irony or sardonic reality?[/quote]

    Neither, actually. The paper is a private enterprise, and he’s bemoaning placing corporate names on public spaces.

    Maybe Citi Field isn’t the best example, since the Mets paid for most of it themselves. But the City of New York still owns it, so comparisons with the Detroit Free Press don’t really hold.[/quote]

    actually i was just pointing out they were ripping on citifield in a story with an ad from chase

    not so much the difference in a privately held publication versus a (somewhat) publicly owned stadium

    ne’ertheless, mea culpa for not being more clear

  • al | April 15, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    These are volleyball shorts, maybe small in size, but still shorts. :)

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”252650″]These are volleyball shorts, maybe small in size, but still shorts. :)[/quote]

    isn’t the “c” the wrong color? or are those old photos…

    i believe we will need someone to post more recent photos to ensure the integrity of the uniform

  • John T | April 15, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    Chelsea Keeper Petr Cech has added to his headgear, this was due to 50 stitches on his chin from a training ground accident

  • chance | April 15, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”252639″]
    And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.[/quote]

    I guess only if you consider pants are “unfeminine”, or think athletic prowess is necessarily masculine….

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 15, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”252619″]In that image that is not a nike sweat band. It is a brace worn around the bottom of the knee to prevent swelling around the patella (knee cap) and also helps with those with Meniscus problems.[/quote]

    Would the brace be beneficial to someone who has a torn meniscus? Would it be beneficial after his surgery on May 2nd?

  • chance | April 15, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”252648″]“It looks like they’ve got Justin Timberlake wearing an old fiberglass mask, which would be slightly anachronistic — and bizarre, since they seem to have a lot of other things pegged (down to the Stanley Cup playoff patches).”

    But it makes sense for the movie – if they show a bunch of free-flowing hockey action with a stunt double, you would be able to tell easier if he wore a current-style facemask. This way, like in Miracle, they can have a stunt goalie make the saves then close-up of JT’s face after he flips the mask back up.

    Of course, Timberlake is so talented, I wonder why they didn’t choreograph the hockey scene minus the puck, then go back in an add the puck digitally. It’s not like you would have been able to tell, and I’m sure they could have pulled it off.[/quote]

    True, but that’s an awful lot of time and money. Balance that against wearing a slightly out-of-date mask, and it’s no contest.

  • Cosmo | April 15, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”252633″][quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.[/quote]

    I agree that the bowlers look strange in skirts, much like those female basketball teams you linked to at some point.

    Just out of curiosity, do people think that female tennis players wearing skirts is antiquated as well? Personally I think it would look strange to see them in regular shorts, but that might just be because I’m so used to the skirts.

  • Paul Lukas | April 15, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”252639″][quote comment=”252633″][quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.[/quote]

    And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.[/quote]

    Man, you could write a whole textbook on fucked-up gender relations based on that post.

  • Andy | April 15, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”252644″]On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?[/quote]

    Maybe to make it appear as more of a “gentelmen’s” game? If they wore shorts, it’d be more casual. Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.

  • Boston Nick | April 15, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”252632″]Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

    I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

    So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?[/quote]

    I actually really like the thin bands right around the elbow areas. It looks less bulky than the guys wearing wristbands, and I think it can accentuate the muscles just a bit, and I can understand why guys would want that. I know it’s turned into an extra swoosh or three stripes at the college level, but I just think it looks kinda tough, but sleek and I think it works as an accessory.

    When I start a new season of NCAA football, I go in and take white wristbands off of every player on my Michigan squad, either using black for black players (because the black wristbands look a little more like tape) or generally nothing on the wrists for white guys. I also add the thin elbow bands to many of the players, and use the gloves under tape combo for offensive linemen…oh, and I remove all sleeves from offensive linemen and defensive tackles. My nasty guys in the trenches are too tough for sleeves.

  • Terri | April 15, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    Speaking from personal experience, as someone who played a sport where the women wear skirts, it doesn’t really have to do with femininity. In high school hockey, my team changed to shorts the year before my freshman year after deciding they didn’t want to wear skirts anymore. But after two years, we switched back to the skirts. In shorts, alot of us felt like we weren’t being field hockey players- we looked and felt like soccer players. So, we got new unis again and picked skirts- it didn’t feel antiquated,it’s a tradition of the sport and we were proud of our sport.
    By the way, it wasn’t just my school- alot of teams around us did the exact same thing at pretty much the same time.

  • MPowers1634 | April 15, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”252604″]In that Oregon football picture, doesn’t that look an awful lot like Dennis Dixon on the right wearing #55? The only #55 listed on UO’s roster is a linebacker named Casey Matthews, and he, uh…doesn’t look like Dennis Dixon: [/quote]

    That pic is almost four years old now! We should check the roster a few years back. It’s definitely not Dixon.

  • Rhoda Morgenstern | April 15, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”252599″]Fox reports on teams with throwback fever.[/quote]

    Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…

  • Jason Gomez | April 15, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”252654″][quote comment=”252619″]In that image that is not a nike sweat band. It is a brace worn around the bottom of the knee to prevent swelling around the patella (knee cap) and also helps with those with Meniscus problems.[/quote]

    Would the brace be beneficial to someone who has a torn meniscus? Would it be beneficial after his surgery on May 2nd?[/quote]

    I am not sure, I have a torn meniscus but have yet had a procedure done. IT was suggested that I use it or some sort of brace for support. My guess something more then the regular piece of rubber, something with metal on each side or hard plastic. For now probably icing it or moist heat, like a hot towel would work for swelling.

  • Buccigross Fan Club | April 15, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”252639″][quote comment=”252633″][quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.[/quote]

    And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.[/quote]

    So do we think that female beach volleyball players wear bikinis as their uniforms for performance or aesthetic reasons? (Most teams do coordinate their swimwear, so they fall fairly close to uniforms.)

    Last year at the Brooklyn AVP, I was shocked to see Logan Tom wearing a jogging top and full-length spandex pants on Friday. She joined rank on Saturday and switched over to the bikini.

    (and remember, ladies and gentlemen, keep the comments on a mature level – we should all be familiar with the edict regarding this type of discussion)

  • GoTerriers | April 15, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?

  • Kim | April 15, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    Thank you Japan for showing us why softball should be eliminated from the Olympics.[quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    Well, boxing has all those belts….

    or would you consider that an accessory instead of an article of clothing?

  • Pat | April 15, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”252667″][quote comment=”252599″]Fox reports on teams with throwback fever.[/quote]

    Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    And The Simpsons.

  • ScottyJ in WV | April 15, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”252615″]NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

    Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?[/quote]

    As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

    As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

    Check ’em out.

    The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

    “Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

    For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.

  • Kim | April 15, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    Sorry, my browser kept an artifact from my previous comment.

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote]The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes.[/quote]

    and to paraphrase diane chambers, something that “only 7,000 people have worn before you”

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”252672″]Thank you Japan for showing us why softball should be eliminated from the Olympics.[quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    Well, boxing has all those belts….

    or would you consider that an accessory instead of an article of clothing?[/quote]
    Don’t even get Mr. Redemske started, or he’ll go Lorenzo Mata-Real on you.
    (/stupid hats)

  • Mike | April 15, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”252669″][quote comment=”252639″][quote comment=”252633″][quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.[/quote]

    And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.[/quote]

    So do we think that female beach volleyball players wear bikinis as their uniforms for performance or aesthetic reasons? (Most teams do coordinate their swimwear, so they fall fairly close to uniforms.)

    Last year at the Brooklyn AVP, I was shocked to see Logan Tom wearing a jogging top and full-length spandex pants on Friday. She joined rank on Saturday and switched over to the bikini.

    (and remember, ladies and gentlemen, keep the comments on a mature level – we should all be familiar with the edict regarding this type of discussion)[/quote]
    I think it’s sorta both. Obviously tight clothes like spandex are good for athletics because they’re usually less constricting, but could they be a little longer…yeah of course. And theres quite a few sports where men wear spandex too– cycling, running, crew, etc. In fact, if it wasn’t such a social faux pas I wouldn’t be surprised to see men in sports like volleyball or tennis wear much tighter stuff then they do now.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”252675″][quote comment=”252615″]NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

    Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?[/quote]

    As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

    As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

    Check ’em out.

    The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

    “Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

    For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.[/quote]
    Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?

  • ScottyJ in WV | April 15, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”252678″][quote]The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes.[/quote]

    and to paraphrase diane chambers, something that “only 7,000 people have worn before you”[/quote]

    LOL!! Yup!

  • Rhoda Morgenstern | April 15, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?

  • ScottyJ in WV | April 15, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”252682″][quote comment=”252675″][quote comment=”252615″]NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

    Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?[/quote]

    As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

    As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

    Check ’em out.

    The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

    “Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

    For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.[/quote]
    Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?[/quote]

    Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

    I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.

  • ScottyJ in WV | April 15, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”252693″][quote comment=”252682″][quote comment=”252675″][quote comment=”252615″]NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

    Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?[/quote]

    As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

    As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

    Check ’em out.

    The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

    “Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

    For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.[/quote]
    Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?[/quote]

    Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

    I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.[/quote]

    Correction…don’t want a slide sole on my left foot.

  • Joey Guns | April 15, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”252632″]Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

    I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

    So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?[/quote]

    Every time I see guys wearing something like this, I think of the Ultimate Warrior:

    http://graysmatter.c...

    http://www.spookyweb...

  • Chris is Nashville | April 15, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”252693″][quote comment=”252682″][quote comment=”252675″][quote comment=”252615″]NCAA women’s bowling championships. Even more surprising: Arkansas State wore these skimpy shorts, while Maryland Eastern Shore wore short skirts.

    Anybody know whether team bowling shoes exist? All I can make out in the pics are basic blacks. It would be great if the classic (read: garish clown-style) bowling shoe design could be adapted to a school’s particular colors. And what happened to those “old school” style bowling shirts?[/quote]

    As a former collegiate bowler, lemme address this.

    As far as I know, team bowling shoes do not exist. As in other sports, shoes are frequently customized and personalized. There’s also plenty of shoes to choose from, not just “basic black”.

    Check ’em out.

    The “classic” shoes you are referring to are rental shoes, more commonly known as house shoes. Bowling centers are known as “houses” and the shoes they rent…..house shoes. If someone bowls on a regular basis, one of the first things they get are their own shoes. More comfortable, better performing and more cost-effective.

    “Old-school” bowling shirts have been hijacked by the non-bowling hipsters and thrift store devotees for the most part. You see them every now and again, especially more recently, but for the most part, bowlers don’t wear them.

    For me, women bowling in skirts, short or “skorts” just look right to me. I’ve seen plenty of women bowl in pants and it just looks odd. From what I’ve heard from the ladies I’ve bowled with, they prefer the skirt-short-skort option over pants.[/quote]
    Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?[/quote]

    Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

    I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.[/quote]
    Makes sense.
    The only bowling I’ve done the past year was Wii Bowling, for which I wear my good old cross-trainers.

  • Ian K | April 15, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    In bowling competitions, aren’t there dugouts or benches like at a normal bowling alley? These pictures look awkward because the teammates that aren’t bowling are just standing behind the bowler.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”252702″]In bowling competitions, aren’t there dugouts or benches like at a normal bowling alley? These pictures look awkward because the teammates that aren’t bowling are just standing behind the bowler.[/quote]
    That could be the team showing unity or wearing the imaginary rally cap, standing on the top stair of the dugout.

  • joe | April 15, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”252680″]Obviously tight clothes like spandex are good for athletics because they’re usually less constricting, [/quote]

    anyone else see the irony in this?

  • al | April 15, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”252651″][quote comment=”252650″]These are volleyball shorts, maybe small in size, but still shorts. :)[/quote]

    isn’t the “c” the wrong color? or are those old photos…

    i believe we will need someone to post more recent photos to ensure the integrity of the uniform[/quote]

    i don;t think they broke out the “gold C” until after basketball did it. but here are pics with the C a different color

  • Scott M.X. Turner | April 15, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    “Maybe Citi Field isn’t the best example, since the Mets paid for most of it themselves.”

    Barely. The Mets are paying very little of their own money to build their new ballpark. Taxpayers are putting up $468 million, and the bank that bought naming rights is ponying up another $400 million.

    Once construction costs top $868 million, then the Mets will start paying for the park.

    Once construction costs top $1.736 billion dollars, then the Mets will have paid for most of the ballpark themselves.

  • Wollen1 | April 15, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    Number font? I didn’t see any number font! I just saw my great aunt Claire showing way too much skin to a bunch of horny ballplayers.

  • Clint Fransen | April 15, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    The Kane County Cougars (Oakland A’s Class A team) will be wearing special patches to pay tribute to the shooting victims at Norther Illinios University. The patch looks like it is a black ribbon with a NIU logo in the middle. Patch also looks to very large. Linky: http://www.icecentri...

  • Clint Fransen | April 15, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    Oh snap! Can’t edit posts! Sorry about the spelling!

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”252710″][quote comment=”252680″]Obviously tight clothes like spandex are good for athletics because they’re usually less constricting, [/quote]

    anyone else see the irony in this?[/quote]

    irony? no

    paradox…definitely

  • Al | April 15, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”252661″]Speaking from personal experience, as someone who played a sport where the women wear skirts, it doesn’t really have to do with femininity. In high school hockey, my team changed to shorts the year before my freshman year after deciding they didn’t want to wear skirts anymore. But after two years, we switched back to the skirts. In shorts, alot of us felt like we weren’t being field hockey players- we looked and felt like soccer players. So, we got new unis again and picked skirts- it didn’t feel antiquated,it’s a tradition of the sport and we were proud of our sport.
    By the way, it wasn’t just my school- alot of teams around us did the exact same thing at pretty much the same time.[/quote]

    Emmaus, Lower Dauphin, or Northern Burlington?

  • Jon | April 15, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    I haven’t read all the posts over the past few weeks, but i don’t think i have seen a boston mashup. i would love to see one. i am not what you would call “computer inclined” so i would never be able to do it.

  • Philly Bill | April 15, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”252696″][quote comment=”252693″][quote comment=”252682″]Righty- and lefty-specific shoes? What on Earth?[/quote]

    Been that way for a looooong time, Mike.

    I’m a lefty and slide on my right foot. When I’m making a shot, I don’t want a slide sole on my right foot. In the step before the slide, that step provides balance and power and you don’t wanna be slippin around getting into your slide.[/quote]

    Correction…don’t want a slide sole on my left foot.[/quote]

    I’ve bowled thousands of games, been in leagues, and owned my own shoes and ball for half my life… and I’ve never heard of righty and lefty shoes! As a righty, on my fourth and fifth steps, I just push off the right heel (ie, rubber part of the sole) and slide with the left toe (ie, leather part of the sole).

    Maybe this is why I’m not a very good bowler. It’s not for lack of practice.

  • Rhoda Morgenstern | April 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | April 15, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    It looks more like a Ski Jumper on those Waterloo Unis. Does’t really look like a downhill skier to me…

  • Terri | April 15, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”252724″][quote comment=”252661″]Speaking from personal experience, as someone who played a sport where the women wear skirts, it doesn’t really have to do with femininity. In high school hockey, my team changed to shorts the year before my freshman year after deciding they didn’t want to wear skirts anymore. But after two years, we switched back to the skirts. In shorts, alot of us felt like we weren’t being field hockey players- we looked and felt like soccer players. So, we got new unis again and picked skirts- it didn’t feel antiquated,it’s a tradition of the sport and we were proud of our sport.
    By the way, it wasn’t just my school- alot of teams around us did the exact same thing at pretty much the same time.[/quote]

    Emmaus, Lower Dauphin, or Northern Burlington?[/quote]

    Carlisle.

  • ScottyJ in WV | April 15, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”252702″]In bowling competitions, aren’t there dugouts or benches like at a normal bowling alley? These pictures look awkward because the teammates that aren’t bowling are just standing behind the bowler.[/quote]

    The reason they’re standing behind the lanes like that is because they’re bowling in the Baker format. Instead of each person bowling an individual game and adding them together, the Baker format uses all 5 players in one collective game. The leadoff bowler bowls frame 1, the second bowler bowls frame 2, so on & so on. At the 6th frame, the lineup recycles (leadoff bowler bowls the 6th, etc.)

    It’s very fast paced and exciting. You get pretty caught up in the whole thing, because 1 shot either way can make a big difference.

  • Terri | April 15, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    I hope you realize that by calling all southerners close-minded, you just proved yourself to be close-minded.

    This isn’t a political blog. That’s all they were saying. Please leave politics and personal insults out of it.

  • Rhoda Morgenstern | April 15, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”252734″][quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    I hope you realize that by calling all southerners close-minded, you just proved yourself to be close-minded.

    This isn’t a political blog. That’s all they were saying. Please leave politics and personal insults out of it.[/quote]

    NO, NO NO…MY OPINION was that FOX (SPORTS) Piece on the uniforms was weak and crappy, as are they….see another opinion…which I believe is what Paul wants here…yet a 3rd opinion And now a 4th opinion, I dont car what you think, say or care about me; freedom of expression, it is called the 1st amendment…

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | April 15, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”252645″]So I was watching the Red Wings give up three goals in the last four minutes of the third to blow their win against the Preds last night on hockeywebcasts.com (which I recently discovered since I’m shafted by Versus), and I noticed the captain’s patch on Lidstrom’s jersey is sewn over a seam on his left chest… Now didn’t they have to do the whole switch-sides shpeel for the captain’s patch *because* of it not fitting without going over the seams? I know this is obvious on other team’s jerseys but still… This makes me a sad puppy.[/quote]

    This isn’t the first time the Red Wings have worn the “C” or the “A” on the right.

  • Terri | April 15, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”252735″][quote comment=”252734″][quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    I hope you realize that by calling all southerners close-minded, you just proved yourself to be close-minded.

    This isn’t a political blog. That’s all they were saying. Please leave politics and personal insults out of it.[/quote]

    NO, NO NO…MY OPINION was that FOX (SPORTS) Piece on the uniforms was weak and crappy, as are they….see another opinion…which I believe is what Paul wants here…yet a 3rd opinion And now a 4th opinion, I dont car what you think, say or care about me; freedom of expression, it is called the 1st amendment…[/quote]

    Ok, one more response because I hate ignorance of the First Amendment, then hopefully Paul will take care of it and remove you from the comments section.

    Requesting that you not post political comments or personal insults on a blog comment board is not restricting your First Amendment rights. I am not arresting you, I am not suing you. You are not in legal trouble for your comments, I am not making a law against your comments. I am simply requesting that you let us get back to the uni talk we all enjoy.

  • Kek | April 15, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”252659″][quote comment=”252644″]On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?[/quote]

    Maybe to make it appear as more of a “gentelmen’s” game? If they wore shorts, it’d be more casual. Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    True, but it’s a little early in the season for shorts anyway. I’m thinking more of playing a tourney in the dog days of august in shorts might be alright. If you want to keep things formal for the majors, that’s fine. I don’t know, I just can’t believe I’m actually posting about golf because I hate it. Basketball players hit free throws, hockey players and goalies participate in shootous, kickers kick FGs with thousands of fans screaming, but Tiger can’t swing with a camera going off?!?! Whatever.

  • Zurk | April 15, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    Those Yankee capes sure add to the “Evil Empire” persona…

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”252739″][quote comment=”252659″][quote comment=”252644″]On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?[/quote]

    Maybe to make it appear as more of a “gentelmen’s” game? If they wore shorts, it’d be more casual. Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    True, but it’s a little early in the season for shorts anyway. I’m thinking more of playing a tourney in the dog days of august in shorts might be alright. If you want to keep things formal for the majors, that’s fine. I don’t know, I just can’t believe I’m actually posting about golf because I hate it. Basketball players hit free throws, hockey players and goalies participate in shootous, kickers kick FGs with thousands of fans screaming, but Tiger can’t swing with a camera going off?!?! Whatever.[/quote]

    i don’t have the time to search for it now, but there was a fairly famous incident when one golfer (name escapes me) wore SHORTSHORTS during either a US open or a PGA…to protest either the USGA or PGA prohibition against shorts…because the conditions were stifling that week (like 95 degrees with 99% humidity)…every once in a while the golf channel runs a segment featuring it

    maybe johnny okray or =bg= or one of UW’s golf affectionados can help me out here

  • Juan Grande | April 15, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”252738″][quote comment=”252735″][quote comment=”252734″][quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    I hope you realize that by calling all southerners close-minded, you just proved yourself to be close-minded.

    This isn’t a political blog. That’s all they were saying. Please leave politics and personal insults out of it.[/quote]

    NO, NO NO…MY OPINION was that FOX (SPORTS) Piece on the uniforms was weak and crappy, as are they….see another opinion…which I believe is what Paul wants here…yet a 3rd opinion And now a 4th opinion, I dont car what you think, say or care about me; freedom of expression, it is called the 1st amendment…[/quote]

    Ok, one more response because I hate ignorance of the First Amendment, then hopefully Paul will take care of it and remove you from the comments section.

    Requesting that you not post political comments or personal insults on a blog comment board is not restricting your First Amendment rights. I am not arresting you, I am not suing you. You are not in legal trouble for your comments, I am not making a law against your comments. I am simply requesting that you let us get back to the uni talk we all enjoy.[/quote]

    If you kids don’t stop fighting, I will turn this car around and we will go home right now!

  • werthj | April 15, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”252729″]It looks more like a Ski Jumper on those Waterloo Unis. Does’t really look like a downhill skier to me…[/quote]
    Pretty sure that ‘downhill’ refers to the upper left to lower right angle of the wordmark. Althought, yes, the hawk on the bat does look like a ski jumper!

  • Robin | April 15, 2008 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    We have a troll on aisle four — security!

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | April 15, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”252744″][quote comment=”252729″]It looks more like a Ski Jumper on those Waterloo Unis. Does’t really look like a downhill skier to me…[/quote]
    Pretty sure that ‘downhill’ refers to the upper left to lower right angle of the wordmark. Althought, yes, the hawk on the bat does look like a ski jumper![/quote]

    Hahaha…I am SUCH AN IDIOT!

    Ski Jumpers!

  • EGlick | April 15, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    Does anybody know of any examples of a product changing it’s logo/colors/font etc to celebrate a pro team. I know Heinz did some Steelers packaging after their Super Bowl victory. And it’s a bit of stretch, but Gatorade using their lightning bolt to create a new product called Tiger is kind of an example. And I guess those Obama MLB shirts is sort of another example (but that wasn’t authorized).
    If answers are out there, the people on this blog would know. Thanks.

  • Kevin | April 15, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    Watching the Red Sox game last night I noticed Jacoby Ellsbury was wearing two different sleeves. The left looks like his normal compression sleeve, where the right looks like the Nike Dry-Fit undershirt that Dice-K usually wears. Is there that big of a difference between the feel of the sleeve and the full shirt sleeve?

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    speaking of the waterloo photo…

    how come the dudes on the far left and far right of the top row have vertically (or is it radially) arched nameplates, while the rest of them are in “ny ranger” cascade (downhill) fashion?

    they coaches? special?

  • Buccigross Fan Club | April 15, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    It’s too bad you can’t have this jersey exactly as it is pictured on the page.

  • Kris Fulton | April 15, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”252755″]It’s too bad you can’t have this jersey exactly as it is pictured on the page.[/quote]

    You can – order a custom one.

  • Jim W | April 15, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    Although it’s still golf, it’s even sillier:

    http://www.pgatour.c...

  • kings33 | April 15, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    Not positive that they are the same, but the knee straps remind me of these

    Not sure Nike’s are as functional, but FWIW…

  • Kris Fulton | April 15, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”252758″][quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    Although it’s still golf, it’s even sillier:

    http://www.pgatour.c...

    What about the Golden Boot?

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”252758″]Although it’s still golf, it’s even sillier:

    http://www.pgatour.c...

    that’s the worst jacket i ever saw…must come with a free bowl of soup

    looks good on boo tho

  • Randy Williams | April 15, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”252751″]Watching the Red Sox game last night I noticed Jacoby Ellsbury was wearing two different sleeves. The left looks like his normal compression sleeve, where the right looks like the Nike Dry-Fit undershirt that Dice-K usually wears. Is there that big of a difference between the feel of the sleeve and the full shirt sleeve?[/quote]
    It looks like he wears the compression sleeve over the top of the Nike long sleeve. He did this during the ’07 WS as well. I read that he wore the one compression sleeve at college in Oregon and just carried the practice/superstition over to the majors.

  • teamcinnamon | April 15, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”252697″][quote comment=”252632″]Here’s an example of LJ Smith wearing said bands around his arms at the elbows.

    I wouldn’t think that the NFL would permit accessories like this, other than actual sweat bands that go over the wrists or forearms, to the uniform unless they have some kind of specific medical reason for wearing them.

    So what’s the consensus? Over-accessorization or what?[/quote]

    Every time I see guys wearing something like this, I think of the Ultimate Warrior:

    http://graysmatter.c...

    http://www.spookyweb...

    Awesome.

  • MPowers1634 | April 15, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”252760″]Not positive that they are the same, but the knee straps remind me of these

    Not sure Nike’s are as functional, but FWIW…[/quote]

    Those are to prevent a malady known as “Jumpers’ Knee”.

  • Tyler | April 15, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”252663″][quote comment=”252604″]In that Oregon football picture, doesn’t that look an awful lot like Dennis Dixon on the right wearing #55? The only #55 listed on UO’s roster is a linebacker named Casey Matthews, and he, uh…doesn’t look like Dennis Dixon: [/quote]

    That pic is almost four years old now! We should check the roster a few years back. It’s definitely not Dixon.[/quote]

    Well, according to the Ducks’ official rosters on their website going back to ’03, nobody matches that picture. There’s no #55 listed in 2003, and ’04-’06 #55 belonged to Enoka Lucas. Plus, in an article Paul wrote in ’06, that picture appears as the Ducks’ latest update. I remembered it was more recent than four years ago because it’s the “video game” font that didn’t appear until a couple of years back. Not that I’m saying it’s Dixon, because I’m not positive, but it looks a lot like him and obviously isn’t Lucas or Matthews. Odd.

  • Chad | April 15, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    just saw this on espn. at first glance i thought it was cool, but after i went back and looked at it again i was shocked to see the black face. i never knew ted danson was such a randy moss fan.

  • Duckstyle | April 15, 2008 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”252739″][quote comment=”252659″][quote comment=”252644″]On a semi-related shorts note, is there any reason aside from tradition as to why male golfers don’t/aren’t allowed to wear shorts? The LPGA doesn’t have a problem with this. Would this be another case of the female athletes wanting to be more feminine? I’m sure the tour doesn’t mind some of the better looking LPGA players showing off but female golfers have always worn shorts/skirts right?[/quote]

    Maybe to make it appear as more of a “gentelmen’s” game? If they wore shorts, it’d be more casual. Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    True, but it’s a little early in the season for shorts anyway. I’m thinking more of playing a tourney in the dog days of august in shorts might be alright. If you want to keep things formal for the majors, that’s fine. I don’t know, I just can’t believe I’m actually posting about golf because I hate it. Basketball players hit free throws, hockey players and goalies participate in shootous, kickers kick FGs with thousands of fans screaming, but Tiger can’t swing with a camera going off?!?! Whatever.[/quote]

    Tiger can’t swing when people make noise, becasue well, noone really can. I think it’s pretty easy to say that hitting a golf ball straight is the hardest thing to do in sports. A quarter of an inch to the left on your swing and your ball is going 90 yards to the left. Not to mention that when it’s super quiet, and someone hits that camera shutter it scares you. Not like a punk, but it startles you a bit, and then there goes your ball into the drink. When your out with your buddies and one of them won’t shut up during every swing you get used to it and block it out. But one sudden noise when everything else is quiet, that’s tough. But please don’t think I ever feel sorry for Tiger, he’s doing just fine, with everything.

  • Duckstyle | April 15, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    Btw, I know I’m late to the party here, but I remember those same, wrist band like things being all the rage woth WNBA players when the league started and noone knew what they were for. But I seem to remember seeing one of the original players doing an interview and saying they heped with circulation or something. I dunno, I assumed it was BS then, and I still do, much like the titanium necklaces and the old (insert random metal here) magnetic braclets everyone had like 5-10 years ago.

  • TOG | April 15, 2008 at 2:42 pm |


    “Remember,” Mets COO Jeff Wilpon said recently. “Our blue and orange is from the Dodgers and the Giants. We understand our place in National League history.”

    Okay. I plead complete uni history ignorance…but after being a baseball and uniform fan for over 40 years…i never knew that’s how the Mets picked their blue and orange colors…I thought they stole it from the Knicks, and then the Islanders stole that unique color combination from the Mets and Knicks?

    You unilearn something new every day…

  • Kris Fulton | April 15, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”252774″]just saw this on espn. at first glance i thought it was cool, but after i went back and looked at it again i was shocked to see the black face. i never knew ted danson was such a randy moss fan.[/quote]

    Pretty sure those are masks, not black face makeup.

  • lwiedy | April 15, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    Good catch by Jere Smith, who was watching a replay of Mike Witt’s perfect game (September 30th, 1984) and noticed that all of the Angels had vertically arched NOB lettering — except for Reggie Jackson, whose lettering was radially arched. I couldn’t find any other 1984 rear-view pics of Reggie, so I’m not sure if this was a one-game aberration or something more extensive. Anyone know more?

    I noticed this happening during the “VA” era whenever a jersey was hastily replaced. Since Reggie was nearing some milestones at the time, it may have been requested by Cooperstown or something and the replacement did not have the access to that type of lettering at the moment. Reggie did hit his 500th that season, but he was wearing whites at the time.

    This almost always happened when a mid-season acquisition joined the club.

  • Chad | April 15, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”252780″][quote comment=”252774″]just saw this on espn. at first glance i thought it was cool, but after i went back and looked at it again i was shocked to see the black face. i never knew ted danson was such a randy moss fan.[/quote]

    Pretty sure those are masks, not black face makeup.[/quote]

    i think you’re right

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”252777″]please don’t think I ever feel sorry for Tiger, he’s doing just fine, with everything.[/quote]

    you and kelly tilghman eh?

    ;)

  • Kate | April 15, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    Nate McLouth was missing the top half of his angry pirate last night against the Dodgers.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”252767″][quote comment=”252751″]Watching the Red Sox game last night I noticed Jacoby Ellsbury was wearing two different sleeves. The left looks like his normal compression sleeve, where the right looks like the Nike Dry-Fit undershirt that Dice-K usually wears. Is there that big of a difference between the feel of the sleeve and the full shirt sleeve?[/quote]
    It looks like he wears the compression sleeve over the top of the Nike long sleeve. He did this during the ’07 WS as well. I read that he wore the one compression sleeve at college in Oregon and just carried the practice/superstition over to the majors.[/quote]
    Ellsbury won’t wear a long left sleeve because he finds it restricting (he throws with his left). The arm warmer is his cold weather solution that gives him a freer range of motion.
    [quote comment=”252750″]Does anybody know of any examples of a product changing it’s logo/colors/font etc to celebrate a pro team. I know Heinz did some Steelers packaging after their Super Bowl victory. And it’s a bit of stretch, but Gatorade using their lightning bolt to create a new product called Tiger is kind of an example. And I guess those Obama MLB shirts is sort of another example (but that wasn’t authorized).
    If answers are out there, the people on this blog would know. Thanks.[/quote]
    How about the Pittsburgh Penguins? They ditched the blue scheme in 1980 in order to ride the mojo of the Pirates and Steelers, the area’s black and gold teams with recent success.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    Follow-up to myself: I forgot to add that Ellsbury went to Oregon State. Not the Greens of Eugene. (Big difference!)

  • Chad | April 15, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    holy crap i never knew there would ever be a market for such a thing. except in philly where there would be a huge demand for a t.o crying mask

  • Duckstyle | April 15, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”252783″][quote comment=”252777″]please don’t think I ever feel sorry for Tiger, he’s doing just fine, with everything.[/quote]

    you and kelly tilghman eh?

    ;)[/quote]

    “He’s a suitor! He’s bona fide.”

  • teamcinnamon | April 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”252778″]Btw, I know I’m late to the party here, but I remember those same, wrist band like things being all the rage woth WNBA players when the league started and noone knew what they were for. But I seem to remember seeing one of the original players doing an interview and saying they heped with circulation or something. I dunno, I assumed it was BS then, and I still do, much like the titanium necklaces and the old (insert random metal here) magnetic braclets everyone had like 5-10 years ago.[/quote]

    I used to work at a store that sold them.. those and the foot insoles w/the magnets. We couldn’t keep them in stock!

    People love their placebos!

  • Tim Abel | April 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”252657″][quote comment=”252639″][quote comment=”252633″][quote comment=”252631″][quote comment=”252621″]Uh, male volleyball players wear shorts too.

    Paul, your comment is correct, as far as it goes. But I think Carl G. was referring to the tight, body hugging, spandex almost bikini-bottom shorts that elite women’s volleyball players wear. Real men wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) go near those.[/quote]

    Exhibits A and B, your honors:
    UCLA Men
    UCLA Women.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Point well taken. Still, the notion of bowlers wearing shorts or skirts (or skorts, as some female pro bowlers have done) seems like an antiquated relic from the days when the sight of a woman in pants was considered threatening or radical.[/quote]

    And on a related point, I think that woman who play sports may want to still retain their femininity. When I have seen ladies professional bowling in the past, and they wear the slacks, it seems like they may be trying to “look” more like men. Even if slacks may be more comfortable, however, the ladies here may still want to emphasize thier femininity. I would think it is the same reason that a lot of professional women golfers wear skirts, even though slacks would seem more comfortable for golfing, and the college women volleyball players wear what must be really uncomfortable shorts.[/quote]

    Man, you could write a whole textbook on fucked-up gender relations based on that post.[/quote]

    I’m well aware, that’s my major here at college!

  • Brendan | April 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?

  • Jim | April 15, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    Anyone notice it just got a little awkward in here?

  • Brendan | April 15, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    A possible explanation: Because every player on the Athletics is wearing number 42, they couldn’t wear the grays earlier during this road trip.

  • Jim | April 15, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.

  • Kevin | April 15, 2008 at 3:17 pm |
  • Graf Zeppelin | April 15, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”252612″]All this over a stadium that they tore down in the mid 1970s.[/quote]

    Anyone interested, I found this really great discussion, with some photos and diagrams, of the reconstruction and reconfiguration of Yankee Stadium.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”252797″][quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.[/quote]

    I can think of one team that does that…

  • TOG | April 15, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    Looks like Mitchell and Ness used this image:

    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    for their Reggie Jackson name font as well.

    http://www.dugout-me...

  • Bouj | April 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    RE: Ellsbury
    Nike does make a compression shirt that has sleeves that are different based upon which arm you throw with. It provides special support to that arm, or something. I couldn’t find the pic for it, but I Eastbay used to carry it. He might be wearing that.

    RE: Reggie Jackson
    Mitchell & Ness sells the Reggie Angels throwbacks (1985 & 1986) with regular radial arch, not the VA. It may be laziness by M&N, but it’s worth noting, at least.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 15, 2008 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”252738″][quote comment=”252735″][quote comment=”252734″][quote comment=”252728″][quote comment=”252698″][quote comment=”252692″][quote comment=”252677″][quote comment=”252674″]Fox needs to walk away from things it has no right covering, (see there MLB, NASCAR, NFL, BCS Packages) and stick to what made it the network it is today, making up news…[/quote]

    lets nip this one in the bud and return this to uni talk, k?

    thanks[/quote]

    it was in reference to UNI’s.. K?[/quote]

    No, it wasn’t. I’m with Phil. This is the second day in a row you have chosen this forum to share your feelings above and beyond uni’s. No one really cares.[/quote]

    The Link provided in the original post is about uniforms wasnt it sh*thead? And my opinion of the piece (and FOX) is that they suck.

    Let me ask you something “Chris is Nashville” are all people in Tennessee as close minded and stupid as you? OH RIGHT you are a SOUTHERNER…YOU ARE CLOSE MINDED….Think only as I think not the way you want to…Sorry, forgot, freedom of expression and thought are outlawed in the south…[/quote]

    I hope you realize that by calling all southerners close-minded, you just proved yourself to be close-minded.

    This isn’t a political blog. That’s all they were saying. Please leave politics and personal insults out of it.[/quote]

    NO, NO NO…MY OPINION was that FOX (SPORTS) Piece on the uniforms was weak and crappy, as are they….see another opinion…which I believe is what Paul wants here…yet a 3rd opinion And now a 4th opinion, I dont car what you think, say or care about me; freedom of expression, it is called the 1st amendment…[/quote]

    Ok, one more response because I hate ignorance of the First Amendment, then hopefully Paul will take care of it and remove you from the comments section.

    Requesting that you not post political comments or personal insults on a blog comment board is not restricting your First Amendment rights. I am not arresting you, I am not suing you. You are not in legal trouble for your comments, I am not making a law against your comments. I am simply requesting that you let us get back to the uni talk we all enjoy.[/quote]

    The First Amendment protects citizens against the criminalization of speech by the government. As a general matter, the government cannot make it illegal or punishable to say or express any particular thing, with certain exceptions (“fire in a crowded theatre,” hate speech, certain categories of porn, &c.)

    The First Amendment generally does not protect private speech. In private matters, or cases involving commercial speech, courts will balance one party’s free-speech right against the other party’s right, whatever that may be (e.g. property, IP or civil right), which the speech allegedly violated.

    This concludes today’s episode of “Learning About the Law” with Professor Zeppelin. Now back to our regularly-scheduled, uni-related programming.

  • jesse | April 15, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”252800″][quote comment=”252612″]All this over a stadium that they tore down in the mid 1970s.[/quote]

    Anyone interested, I found this really great discussion, with some photos and diagrams, of the reconstruction and reconfiguration of Yankee Stadium.[/quote]

    Who are those guys, that was a pretty intersting thread.

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote]the government cannot make it illegal or punishable to say or express any particular thing, with certain exceptions (”fire in a crowded theatre,” hate speech, certain categories of porn, &c.)[/quote]

    wait…WHAT?

  • Greg V. | April 15, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    another sports tradition falls to the almighty dollar…

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Paul Lukas | April 15, 2008 at 4:06 pm |

    Luckily for everyone (esp. me), I’ve been busy for most of the day, so I didn’t get to tell you all to put a cork in all the pettiness. Until now: Kindly put a cork in all the pettiness (political, Constitutional, regional, and otherwise) — NOW. Thanks.

  • Kevin | April 15, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”252804″]RE: Ellsbury
    Nike does make a compression shirt that has sleeves that are different based upon which arm you throw with. It provides special support to that arm, or something. I couldn’t find the pic for it, but I Eastbay used to carry it. He might be wearing that.

    RE: Reggie Jackson
    Mitchell & Ness sells the Reggie Angels throwbacks (1985 & 1986) with regular radial arch, not the VA. It may be laziness by M&N, but it’s worth noting, at least.[/quote]

    Any link or picture of the dual sleeve shirt?

  • Joey Guns | April 15, 2008 at 4:31 pm |

    The Boston Marathon is breaking with a 112-year tradition, putting corporate ads on the start and finish lines to help its two main sponsors extract more value from ties with the world’s oldest marathon.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Joey Guns | April 15, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”252810″]another sports tradition falls to the almighty dollar…

    http://sportsillustr...

    Figures that someone beat me to this. I tried to search for “Marathon” before I posted, but I didn’t see that word in the comments, so I left my comment……

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    it’s about time…the boston marathon FINALLY joined the 2000’s

    christ…it only took what, 112 years

  • Randy Williams | April 15, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”252817″][quote comment=”252804″]RE: Ellsbury
    Nike does make a compression shirt that has sleeves that are different based upon which arm you throw with. It provides special support to that arm, or something. I couldn’t find the pic for it, but I Eastbay used to carry it. He might be wearing that.

    RE: Reggie Jackson
    Mitchell & Ness sells the Reggie Angels throwbacks (1985 & 1986) with regular radial arch, not the VA. It may be laziness by M&N, but it’s worth noting, at least.[/quote]

    Any link or picture of the dual sleeve shirt?[/quote]
    There is one in post #103

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    and…i see i’ve been beaten to the punch with this one

    /edit button anyone?

  • Joey Guns | April 15, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    Te first of the 42 pics:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • GoTerriers | April 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”252761″][quote comment=”252758″][quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    Although it’s still golf, it’s even sillier:

    http://www.pgatour.c...

    What about the Golden Boot?[/quote]

    Close and certainly in the same spirit, but that’s for an individual particiapting in a team sport(the top goal scorer in European soccer). And, he only get’s ONE boot, so he couldn’t actually wear the award.
    I guess in my mind the soccer equivalent here would be giving the entire World Cup winning TEAM a PAIR of Golden Boots, have the members of the previous winning team tie the laces for them and take a victory lap aroung the pitch in them, right?
    Someone mentioned championship belts in boxing earlier and they’re close, but not quite what I was thinking about. This wouldn’t be too effective at holding up one’s pants. Quite the opposite, actually
    I’ve been thinking about this all day and the phenomenon seems to be localized to golf and cycling.

  • stu | April 15, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    Maybe interesting maybe not. Offer letters sent to a college QB Recruit

    Link

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”252830″]Maybe interesting maybe not.

    Offer letters sent to a college QB Recruit

    Link[/quote]
    I like it. It’s athletic, and it’s aesthetics, so I’d think it qualifies under athletic aesthetics.
    Wow, that Oregon stationary is blander than I expected.

  • Brendan | April 15, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    The MVP in the Swedish hockey league gets a golden helmet to wear for the next season.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Kevin | April 15, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”252773″][quote comment=”252663″][quote comment=”252604″]In that Oregon football picture, doesn’t that look an awful lot like Dennis Dixon on the right wearing #55? The only #55 listed on UO’s roster is a linebacker named Casey Matthews, and he, uh…doesn’t look like Dennis Dixon: [/quote]

    That pic is almost four years old now! We should check the roster a few years back. It’s definitely not Dixon.[/quote]

    Well, according to the Ducks’ official rosters on their website going back to ’03, nobody matches that picture. There’s no #55 listed in 2003, and ’04-’06 #55 belonged to Enoka Lucas. Plus, in an article Paul wrote in ’06, that picture appears as the Ducks’ latest update. I remembered it was more recent than four years ago because it’s the “video game” font that didn’t appear until a couple of years back. Not that I’m saying it’s Dixon, because I’m not positive, but it looks a lot like him and obviously isn’t Lucas or Matthews. Odd.[/quote]

    Yes, it’s Dixon – this was at the “unveiling” of the new unis – so all prototypes. Players are:
    Dante Rosario (wearing #86, acutally #44).
    Terrence Whitehead (wearing #34, acutally #24).
    Cameron Colvin? (wearing #70, acutally #80).
    And..Dixon – who wore #10, not #55.

  • Kevin | April 15, 2008 at 5:28 pm |

    Doh…meant actually…

  • scott | April 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”252801″][quote comment=”252797″][quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.[/quote]

    I can think of one team that does that…[/quote]

    I doubt it’s that unusual, but if anyone has the statistics, I’d love to see them. I’d bet the Padres, A’s and Indians have all come close at one time or another.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”252840″][quote comment=”252801″][quote comment=”252797″][quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.[/quote]

    I can think of one team that does that…[/quote]

    I doubt it’s that unusual, but if anyone has the statistics, I’d love to see them. I’d bet the Padres, A’s and Indians have all come close at one time or another.[/quote]
    Missing the obvious…Houston Astros. I forget what color their road grays are. :-/

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”252841″][quote comment=”252840″][quote comment=”252801″][quote comment=”252797″][quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.[/quote]

    I can think of one team that does that…[/quote]

    I doubt it’s that unusual, but if anyone has the statistics, I’d love to see them. I’d bet the Padres, A’s and Indians have all come close at one time or another.[/quote]
    Missing the obvious…Houston Astros. I forget what color their road grays are. :-/[/quote]

    do the d-bax HAVE an away gray?

  • who cares | April 15, 2008 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”252837″][quote comment=”252671″][quote comment=”252659″]
    Also, it would look silly putting a green jacket on a guy wearing shorts.[/quote]
    As if wearing a green jacket isn’t silly in and of itself.

    Are there any other sports that award an article of clothing as a trophy? I know that cycling awards snazzy colored jerseys to season champions, stage champions, etc (as Bryan has given us in great detail) but is that really a trophy? When you go to the Masters website, it actualy lists the Green Jacket as part of the trophy and award package presented to the winner.

    Can anyone come up with any other ones?[/quote]

    The MVP in the Swedish hockey league gets a golden helmet to wear for the next season.

    http://en.wikipedia....[/quote]

    Here’s a picture of a gold helmet wearer.

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”252844″]Here’s a picture of a gold helmet wearer.[/quote]

    the koff nestle oil ratiopharm kawasaki dpd TEAM doesn’t have enough ads

    /good thing the boards are ad-free
    //what team is that anyway?

  • James Craven | April 15, 2008 at 6:35 pm |

    And yes, the Crockies still wear that God-Awfully pathetic black sleeveless with black undershirt alternate.

    If ever the “DITCH THE BLACK” campaign needs the artillary, we have it with these guys.

  • James Craven | April 15, 2008 at 6:42 pm |

    On the subject of the Forbes article on the most unlucky sports cities IMHO, Minnesota has got to have the most pathetic uniforms in sports. The Twins road unis look like they are wearing pyjamas (for our Canadian friends, I used that spelling) and play like they’re sleepwalking, the Vikings white jersey-purple pants combo looks like Easter eggs that were half-dyed, making you think Jim Marshall’s still running the wrong way in San Francisco, the Wild’s colors are more suited for Christmas than an NHL team, and don’t even get me started on the T-Wolves and the Golden Gophers all-gold football alternate.

  • Michael Emody | April 15, 2008 at 6:54 pm |

    Regarding Yankee Stadium, and the close proximity of its successor – until 1957, New York’s National League stadium, the Polo Grounds, was almost as close to the house Ruth built.

  • Mike Engle | April 15, 2008 at 7:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”252843″][quote comment=”252841″][quote comment=”252840″][quote comment=”252801″][quote comment=”252797″][quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.[/quote]

    I can think of one team that does that…[/quote]

    I doubt it’s that unusual, but if anyone has the statistics, I’d love to see them. I’d bet the Padres, A’s and Indians have all come close at one time or another.[/quote]
    Missing the obvious…Houston Astros. I forget what color their road grays are. :-/[/quote]

    do the d-bax HAVE an away gray?[/quote]
    Not to kill your run of sarcasm, but yes. Believe it or not, the D-Backs had a strict uni schedule at one time. Red on Sunday and Tuesday, black on Saturday (but only if at home on Saturday), and white or gray for all other occasions. However, last year had no gray Cool Base tops, so summer must have killed the grays.
    People bring up the Brewers as an example of this, but I’m not so sure. Last year, the Brewers got no-hit by Justin Verlander in gray, so they were never seen again. Hopefully they will make a comeback this year.
    As for the Padres and the Astros…yikes. I would LOVE to see a memo telling them, “You designed those away jerseys, now for Pete’s sake, wear them like the style guide wears them!” (OK, let the Mets read that memo too. Why not?)

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 15, 2008 at 8:10 pm |

    Mets resplendent in standard home uni with all players wearing #42, NNOB. Beautiful; would be perfect but for black drop-shadow.

  • Benjamin Bonnet | April 15, 2008 at 8:14 pm |

    Can’t get a screengrab of it, but Mike Pelfry is wearing a mouthguard.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 15, 2008 at 8:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”252808″][quote]the government cannot make it illegal or punishable to say or express any particular thing, with certain exceptions (”fire in a crowded theatre,” hate speech, certain categories of porn, &c.)[/quote]

    wait…WHAT?[/quote]

    At the risk of upsetting Chief Justice Lukas, I’ll answer your question…

    Key phrase in the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law…” It means that Congress cannot make speech or the expression of ideas a crime. However, some forms of speech and expression are crimes. Shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre is the best example, an illustration of the concept that speech is not protected if it incites violence or creates a substantial risk of imminent bodily harm. It is also a crime to produce, distribute, possess or look at certain categories of obscene materials (which I would rather not specify here) which are otherwise forms of “expression.”

    The First Amendment does not mean that everyone has the right to say anything he wants, anywhere he wants, anytime he wants, any way he wants. It only means that you can’t go to jail for it. Civil courts will enforce a private right to free speech, but it’s a much lower standard; it applies only if the right outweighs the claimed right of the other party. A person cannot, for example, use the First Amendment to justify copyright infringement, libel or harassment. Neither can he use it to get his job back after being fired for cursing out his boss.

  • Mike D | April 15, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    Since the Yankees were the first team in baseball to use numbers on the back of jerseys, could it be the Red Sox copied the Yankees number font? If so, that would actually make the Red Sox font the original Yankees font.

    Also, is it me, or do baseball jerseys look so much better with NNOB? It’s a much cleaner look.

  • Chad G | April 15, 2008 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”252868″]Can’t get a screengrab of it, but Mike Pelfry is wearing a mouthguard.[/quote]

    He’s been wearing that for awhile, at least since last season, otherwise he tips his pitches

  • Shaftman | April 15, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”252867″]Mets resplendent in standard home uni with all players wearing #42, NNOB. Beautiful; would be perfect but for black drop-shadow.[/quote]

    Not exactly….I love the Pinstripes but not Cool Base version. They have the same problem as the Cubs and Phillies; plain white on the fabric under the arm.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 15, 2008 at 8:41 pm |

    Here’s something I didn’t remember…

    Apparently the Mets wore the white ice cream caps on the original Jackie Robinson Night in 1997.

  • Nicole | April 15, 2008 at 8:46 pm |

    Those football offer letters are way cool to check out. Love the LSU (and to a lesser extent Stanford) that has the list of a accomplishments along the left column.

  • Robert | April 15, 2008 at 8:47 pm |

    While watching eight games simultaneously on the DirecTV mix channel, the number of 42s became overwhelming. Flipping over to the Mets-Nationals game, with everyone wearing 42, was just too much.

    If the Jackie Robinson salute must become an annual affair, can’t each team just select one player to do the honors? At this point, seeing every player wearing 42 is just hokey.

    Meanwhile, watching Ken Griffey hit a home run while alone wearing 42 was pretty damn cool. Honor but don’t overwhelm.

  • chance | April 15, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”252882″]
    If the Jackie Robinson salute must become an annual affair, can’t each team just select one player to do the honors? At this point, seeing every player wearing 42 is just hokey.
    [/quote]

    That’s what the Brewers did – limit it to just a couple.

  • Benjamin Bonnet | April 15, 2008 at 8:57 pm |

    I think it would have been a better tribute if the Mets had worn their snow whites (unis not hats) as they would have looked more like the Brooklyn Dodgers.

  • subway | April 15, 2008 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”252861″][quote comment=”252843″][quote comment=”252841″][quote comment=”252840″][quote comment=”252801″][quote comment=”252797″][quote comment=”252794″]The A’s finally end their streak of wearing alternates, which was up to 7 games, and almost a whole road trip (they go home this afternoon).

    Has any other team worn the same alternate for a longer streak?[/quote]

    Someone should keep track of how much teams wear their alternates. It’d be funny if they wore them more than their road or home uniform. Which it seems like some times.[/quote]

    I can think of one team that does that…[/quote]

    I doubt it’s that unusual, but if anyone has the statistics, I’d love to see them. I’d bet the Padres, A’s and Indians have all come close at one time or another.[/quote]
    Missing the obvious…Houston Astros. I forget what color their road grays are. :-/[/quote]

    do the d-bax HAVE an away gray?[/quote]
    Not to kill your run of sarcasm, but yes. Believe it or not, the D-Backs had a strict uni schedule at one time. Red on Sunday and Tuesday, black on Saturday (but only if at home on Saturday), and white or gray for all other occasions. However, last year had no gray Cool Base tops, so summer must have killed the grays.
    People bring up the Brewers as an example of this, but I’m not so sure. Last year, the Brewers got no-hit by Justin Verlander in gray, so they were never seen again. Hopefully they will make a comeback this year.
    As for the Padres and the Astros…yikes. I would LOVE to see a memo telling them, “You designed those away jerseys, now for Pete’s sake, wear them like the style guide wears them!” (OK, let the Mets read that memo too. Why not?)[/quote]

    The Brewers wore the greys in two of the three games at Shea last week. Problem is the names on the back are impossible to read. Phillies and Cubs are the same. Cmon guys, if the centerfield camera can’t read the names, why do you bother at all? For that reason alone, I’ll take the Brewers Blue over gray.

  • Shaftman | April 15, 2008 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”252884″]I think it would have been a better tribute if the Mets had worn their snow whites (unis not hats) as they would have looked more like the Brooklyn Dodgers.[/quote]

    I know you’re referring to the 1947 Dodgers uni’s but don’t forget that not only do the Dodgers have pinstripes in their history, but the only the road uni’s in ’47 had the same piping as the Mets snow white uni’s Dig Stengal’s sunglasses, pinstripes and the angled fence in Ebbets.

  • Robb | April 15, 2008 at 9:49 pm |

    I just witnessed the Flyers win 6-3 then less than two minutes later, the Phillies won 4-3. Both teams are at home, has a situation like that ever happened before where two professional teams won in the same city at roughly the same time?

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”252892″]I just witnessed the Flyers win 6-3 then less than two minutes later, the Phillies won 4-3. Both teams are at home, has a situation like that ever happened before where two professional teams won in the same city at roughly the same time?[/quote]

    the mets and yanks, while rarely home on the same day, i am sure have done it in the past…if you team either NY baseball team up with the knicks or rangers, im sure that’s also been done numerous times…i won’t count the isles (not NYC) or jets/gints (joisey)

    likewise, with several franchises in LA…it’s likely been done there too…and chitown…

    good question tho

  • LI Phil | April 15, 2008 at 10:17 pm |

    as far as 42 and NNOBs…today

    does today set some kind of record for most teams with NNOB in like 30 years?

  • union square | April 15, 2008 at 11:14 pm |

    Paul do you ever eat at the patisserie in union square or did i see a doppelganger today?

  • Six Packed | April 15, 2008 at 11:33 pm |

    “Forgit the beauties here,” says Scott. “Check out the different number fonts. Yankees fans forget — or more likely don’t know — that the Yanks and Red Sox shared that ‘Red Sox font’ for much of the Ruth/Gehrig/DiMaggio eras.”

    Are my eyes fooling me or is there more than 1 style of number font in that dugout? Could it be that is a member of a different team (even the Sox) in the dugout in pinstripes? Just thinkin’ out loud…

  • Zakawitz | April 15, 2008 at 11:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”252896″][quote comment=”252892″]I just witnessed the Flyers win 6-3 then less than two minutes later, the Phillies won 4-3. Both teams are at home, has a situation like that ever happened before where two professional teams won in the same city at roughly the same time?[/quote]

    the mets and yanks, while rarely home on the same day, i am sure have done it in the past…if you team either NY baseball team up with the knicks or rangers, im sure that’s also been done numerous times…i won’t count the isles (not NYC) or jets/gints (joisey)

    likewise, with several franchises in LA…it’s likely been done there too…and chitown…

    good question tho[/quote]

    the stadiums are nothing like the one’s in philly though. the yanks, mets, islanders, rangers, whoever – all their stadiums are spread out. the phillies, flyers, sixers, and eagles (along with phantoms, wings, and kixx) all share the same parking lots. must’ve been a mess with traffic down in south philly tonight

  • Nick | April 15, 2008 at 11:53 pm |

    Regarding the OREGON football picture, the 3rd player from the left, who looks to be wearing #70 IS actually Dennis Dixon wearing a #10 jersey. #55 is another player (don’t know who), but 3rd from the left is definitely Dixon.

  • mtjaws | April 16, 2008 at 12:00 am |

    [quote comment=”252877″]
    Not exactly….I love the Pinstripes but not Cool Base version. They have the same problem as the Cubs and Phillies; plain white on the fabric under the arm.[/quote]

    The Marlins have that same problem at home too, but I can’t find a picture. The manufacturer should be able to put some stripes on those sections.

  • LI Phil | April 16, 2008 at 12:09 am |

    i just heard it announced that NINE teams all wore 42 (so all had NNOB) and you also had the giants and yanks with NNOB…did i miss anyone?

    that means at least 11 teams wore NNOB on 4/15/08

    plus you had numerous teams with players wearing 42 (and hence, NNOB)

    memo to gene, bud, don and the owners: DID YOU SEE HOW GOOD THAT LOOKED???

  • DuckHomer | April 16, 2008 at 2:16 am |

    [quote comment=”252914″]Regarding the OREGON football picture, the 3rd player from the left, who looks to be wearing #70 IS actually Dennis Dixon wearing a #10 jersey. #55 is another player (don’t know who), but 3rd from the left is definitely Dixon.[/quote]

    Wrong! The third from the left is Cameron Colvin.

    From left to right
    Donte Rosario
    Jairus Byrd
    Cameron Colvin
    Dennis Dixon

    This if from 2 years ago, for the unveiling of the new uniforms.

  • Brendan | April 16, 2008 at 5:26 am |

    [quote comment=”252913″][quote comment=”252896″][quote comment=”252892″]I just witnessed the Flyers win 6-3 then less than two minutes later, the Phillies won 4-3. Both teams are at home, has a situation like that ever happened before where two professional teams won in the same city at roughly the same time?[/quote]

    the mets and yanks, while rarely home on the same day, i am sure have done it in the past…if you team either NY baseball team up with the knicks or rangers, im sure that’s also been done numerous times…i won’t count the isles (not NYC) or jets/gints (joisey)

    likewise, with several franchises in LA…it’s likely been done there too…and chitown…

    good question tho[/quote]

    the stadiums are nothing like the one’s in philly though. the yanks, mets, islanders, rangers, whoever – all their stadiums are spread out. the phillies, flyers, sixers, and eagles (along with phantoms, wings, and kixx) all share the same parking lots. must’ve been a mess with traffic down in south philly tonight[/quote]

    Oakland is like this, too. The Arena and Coliseum are about 100 feet from each other. In From October to April (minus February and March) there’s the possibility of having an A’s or Raiders game on the same day as a Warriors game. I distinctly remember seeing highlights of a Warriors game described as being “next door”.

  • jj | April 16, 2008 at 8:47 am |

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