‘Boo,’ Radically

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: Everyone loves to hear about unusual NOBs, like Andy Messersmith’s “Channel” or Elvin Hayes’s “E” (complete with history’s biggest quote marks). Photos, however, aren’t always so easy to come by. I’ve read (and written) abut Jim Grant’s “Mudcat” jersey, for example, but I’ve never actually seen it. Same goes for Ken Harrelson’s “Hawk,” Dick Allen’s “Wampum,” and most of the oddities worn by the 1976 Braves (Jimmy Wynn’s “Cannon,” Ralph Garr’s “Roadrunner,” Jerry Royster’s “Rooster,” and several more).

One of the most storied of these examples is the case of Giants infielder Johnnie LeMaster, who in 1979 was getting booed so vociferously by the Candlestick fans that he wore “Boo” on the back of his jersey for one game. The crowd supposedly laughed when they saw it — and then booed again. Or least that’s the story I’d always heard, but there were never any photos. This page, for example, notes that LeMaster “showed some gallows humor for the Giants, once stitching the word ‘Boo’ on the back of his jersey,” but the photo doesn’t show the NOB (and isn’t even from the right season).

Then, a few days ago, Ethan Rowley sent me this — paydirt! It remains a mystery how fans could boo anyone with such picture-perfect stirrups, but the universe can be inscrutable like that sometimes. Another mystery: How did LeMaster get the equipment manager to go along with this little scheme?

Ethan found the photo, incidentally, in a book — specifically, this book, which as you can see is available almost for free at Amazon.

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Danger, Will Robinson!: Be forewarned: The link I’m about to give you is so addictive, and has so much great stuff, it will probably shoot your entire day to hell. It’s for photographer Steve Dewing’s site, and it’s a friggin’ mother lode of MLB pics from the 1960s and ’70s. This period, of course, straddled the changeover from flannels to double-knits, so on the one hand you’ve got fuzzy jerseys and classic stirrups (often striped!), and on the other hand you’ve also got lots of fodder for the “What were they thinking?” file. I’m particularly fond of this shot — not just a haloed helmet, but dig those color-blocked stirrups. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a good photo of them.

As you can see, the image quality is sensational, the colors are super-saturated, and most of the pics are ones I’ve never seen before. I’m tellin’ ya, people, this site is like crack — once you enter, kiss the rest of your day buh-bye. Check it out here, if you dare, but don’t blame me if you end up swimming in a puddle of your own drool. (Feel free, however, to blame Don Sherman, who brought the site to my attention.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: Tragedy, tragedy. … Beau Stahnke attended the Giants/Packers playoff game two Sundays ago and has finally thawed out enough to send along some photos. Among the highlights: Korey Hall with a big chip off of his helmet; Vernand Morency with maybe a few too many handwarmers in his pocket; Koren Robinson looking macho stupid with his socks down; and the Pack’s cheerleading squad. … Dan Richardson has contributed what I believe is our first-ever Ticker item about lacrosse throwbacks. The team in question is the New Westminster Sr Salmonbellies — North America’s oldest established lacrosse club, going back to 1889 — who play in the Western Lacrosse Association in British Columbia. They’ve taken the team’s 1950s uni (also seen here) and used it as the basis for a throwback design, as seen here. Lots of additional pics in this photo gallery. … Last week I ran a Ticker item linking to this photo. Will Shepard informs me that this is actually part of a series of manipulated brand-centric images by the artist Hank Willis Thomas. They’re part of Thomas’s “B®anded” series, which you can access on his site. And if you think I don’t like Nike, wait until you see his stuff. … Here’s something I’ve never seen before: Billy Bucks with his uni number inscribed on his sunglasses (good find by Greg Riffenburgh). … Did you know Jackie Robinson also played basketball? Full details here. … What’s he smoking, and where can I get some?

 

208 comments to ‘Boo,’ Radically

  • James R | January 31, 2008 at 8:39 am |

    http://sportsillustr...

    I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie

  • John Philips | January 31, 2008 at 8:42 am |

    I have seen one picture of the Hawk Harrelson jersey. It is on a 1970 Topps baseball card insert that was included with the first series of cards that year. They raised the price of the cards from 5 cents a pack to 10 cents a pack and to alleviate the shock of the increase, Topps included something in every series of wax packs. The first series had these mini posters. One was of Ken Harrelson. It has a picture of Harrelson’s face and an action shot that shows “Hawk” on the back of the jersey. I think I still have it in my collection. If I can find it, I’ll scan it and email it.

  • Dane | January 31, 2008 at 8:46 am |

    I don’t know why everyone was saying that the Giants’ jerseys on media day were too small. They look plenty big to me.

  • Pat | January 31, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    Magic Johnson is an idiot. His insight doesn’t even deserve that mention.

    That baseball photo site is great. So many pics of the greatest uniform to ever hit the diamond.

  • Richard Bruns | January 31, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    I didn’t read the story because I’m on my way out the door to class, but Jackie Robinson also ran track and played football. I think it was on an ESPN Classic profile of him where I saw all this. The show claimed that at UCLA baseball was actually his worst sport but the one he enjoyed playing the most.

  • Paul Lukas | January 31, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    [quote comment="213844"]I didn’t read the story because I’m on my way out the door to class, but Jackie Robinson also ran track and played football. I think it was on an ESPN Classic profile of him where I saw all this. The show claimed that at UCLA baseball was actually his worst sport but the one he enjoyed playing the most.[/quote]

    I’ve previously linked to photos of him running track and playing football. But the basketball angle was new to me.

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    I’m particularly fond of this shot — not just a haloed helmet, but dig those color-blocked stirrups, which were only worn in 1970. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a good photo of them.

    Perhaps in 1969 also (note the 100th Ann. patch).

  • BobA | January 31, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    Lingerie Bowl might be gone but there is still the Puppy Bowl.

  • Paul Lukas | January 31, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment="213848"]I’m particularly fond of this shot — not just a haloed helmet, but dig those color-blocked stirrups, which were only worn in 1970. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a good photo of them.

    Perhaps in 1969 also (note the 100th Ann. patch).[/quote]

    Good point!

  • Matt Lesser | January 31, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Have to love box lacrosse. Hardwood and big checks…

  • Taha | January 31, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    The Packers don’t have official cheerleaders. they usually have some ladies from UW-GB or other local schools do some basic cheers at games, and they wear “traditional” uniforms (when the weather is cooperating).

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | January 31, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    [quote comment="213850"]Lingerie Bowl might be gone but there is still the Puppy Bowl. [/quote]

    Yeah, they’re cute, but, it’s just not the same.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment="213850"]Lingerie Bowl might be gone but there is still the Puppy Bowl. [/quote]

    what?

  • Bernard Shakey | January 31, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    Paydirt. The 1974 Cleveland Indians red jersey, blue brim combination as modeled by Oscar Gamble (as 5 year old me and my father called “Mickey Mouse” as the ‘fro resembled mouse ears). All of this exiting the half Astroturf/half grass surface at Commiskey. The perfect storm. If you’ve never been there as I hadn’t until today, Steve’s Baseball Photography site is beyond words.

  • Al | January 31, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie[/quote]

    It’s a European thing, with the coach’s initials on warmups … AV on an Arsenal coach’s jacket mean’s Arsene Wenger.
    ___________________

    [quote comment="213835"]Did you know Jackie Robinson played basketball?[/quote]

    He also played football and ran track for UCLA.
    ___________________

    [quote comment="213835"]“… what I believe is our first-ever Ticker item about lacrosse throwbacks.”[/quote]

    The Philadelphia Wings have worn throwback jerseys (I think it was five years ago in celebration of the 1973 team). So did Hopkins and Maryland in their 100th game a few years back.

  • Al | January 31, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment="213865"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie[/quote]

    It’s a European thing, with the coach’s initials on warmups … AV on an Arsenal coach’s jacket mean’s Arsene Wenger.
    [/quote]

    AW, that is.

  • Jacob | January 31, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie[/quote]

    It’s always been there. It’s right next to the green dot and yellow “C”.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 9:20 am |
  • todd krevanchi | January 31, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    interesting. i thought that everyone knew of his basketball exploits in college.

    year after year, we get impaled with robinson bio’s that i thought it was a common fact anymore.

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    In the pic of Bill Buckner, you can see upon his left hand the infamous “Double Curse” glove that was leftover from his days on the Cbbies.

  • Noel Blaha | January 31, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    In that picture of Bill Buckner, is that the infamous “Cubs” batting glove on his right hand sans the Cubs logo? It certainly looks to me to be a similar glove and the blue seems a bit too royal blue to match the Red Sox shade of dark blue. . .

    When is that picture from? It would be interesting if it in fact was after the ’86 world series.

  • Nicole | January 31, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment="213850"]Lingerie Bowl might be gone but there is still the Puppy Bowl. [/quote]

    And it’s in HD this year!!!

  • Cullan | January 31, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    Re: Monday’s message board posts about the Red White and Blue League Logo. The Samonbellies’ link lead me to come across this for the Western Lacrosse Association.

    http://upload.wikime...

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment="213874"]In that picture of Bill Buckner, is that the infamous “Cubs” batting glove on his right hand sans the Cubs logo? It certainly looks to me to be a similar glove and the blue seems a bit too royal blue to match the Red Sox shade of dark blue. . .

    When is that picture from? It would be interesting if it in fact was after the ’86 world series.[/quote]

    It is from 1987 (note Rawlings logo). Sox wore Wilson road unis from 1979-1986.

  • Christopher | January 31, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    That link is addicting. And… images of the White Sox with their ’70s white hat!

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment="213879"][quote comment="213874"]In that picture of Bill Buckner, is that the infamous “Cubs” batting glove on his right hand sans the Cubs logo? It certainly looks to me to be a similar glove and the blue seems a bit too royal blue to match the Red Sox shade of dark blue. . .

    When is that picture from? It would be interesting if it in fact was after the ’86 world series.[/quote]

    It is from 1987 (note Rawlings logo). Sox wore Wilson road unis from 1979-1986.[/quote]

    When did Russell begin making all of the MLB uniforms and then subsequently Majestic?

  • Robert | January 31, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    Oh man, the mismatched windbreaker takes a bad look to an entirely new (low) level.

    http://www.thatsmybo...

  • Luke | January 31, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    Ilya Kovalchuk (before being injured) last night had a massive amount of tape on his sock. it looked almost like thick tacit packaging tape, something a lot of money broke adult leaguers and high school players would use. But I believe anything aside from clear is illegal in the NHL. It may not have been tape at all, could have been this. Which I’m unsure of its legality.

  • Stuby | January 31, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    Let me tell ya, Johnnie LeMaster was fun to boo. Don’t know why, but he was the poster boy for the crap Giant teams of the late 70s.

    At the ‘Stick, every time LeMaster came up to bat my Dad would turn to me and say “You know, LeMaster went to the Dixie Walker school of hitting”. I always thought he should have gotten a refund on his tuition.

    Great baseball photo site, Paul. I won’t be getting any work done today.

  • Jon | January 31, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    I have video of Johnnie LeMaster exhibiting such self-depreciating humor. Not his BOO jersey, but an old episode of ‘This Week in Baseball’ (maybe 1983?) where he appears on the highlights making a nice play at short then in an interview asking “Can I make a play, or what?”

    Not to promote myself again but ‘Project Runway’ model Jacqueline shares her thoughts on Mets uniforms here.

  • James Craven | January 31, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment="213862"][quote comment="213850"]“Lingerie Bowl might be gone but there is still the Puppy Bowl.”[/quote]

    “What?(TM)”[/quote]

    No offense, Phillip, but you’re one sick puppy, no pun intended.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 31, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment="213886"]Oh man, the mismatched windbreaker takes a bad look to an entirely new (low) level.

    http://www.thatsmybo...
    AACK!! Where did Tiant get that thing, army surplus? (No offense to our fighting men and women in uniform) OD khaki and red do not a good color combo make – apologies to Yoda

  • James Craven | January 31, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment="213870"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    “I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie.”[/quote]

    “It’s always been there.

    “It’s right next to the green dot and yellow ‘C’”.[/quote]

    [sarcasm]Oh, great. Everyone wants to be Shecky Fucking Greene.[/sarcasm]

  • ScottyJ in WV | January 31, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    You’re right, Paul. Dewing’s site is a time eater, and I’m lovin’ every minute of it!

    I mean, how awesome is this?!!?

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment="213903"][quote comment="213870"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    “I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie.”[/quote]

    “It’s always been there.

    “It’s right next to the green dot and yellow ‘C’”.[/quote]

    [sarcasm]Oh, great. Everyone wants to be Shecky Fucking Greene.[/sarcasm][/quote]

    If I can show restraint enough to not post pics like this, then you all can refrain from making Yellow C and Green D comments! Ok, Ok.

  • Bob | January 31, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

  • Jacob | January 31, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    Pimpin’ ain’t easy!

  • Perry | January 31, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment="213843"]Magic Johnson is an idiot. His insight doesn’t even deserve that mention.

    That baseball photo site is great. So many pics of the greatest uniform to ever hit the diamond.[/quote]

    Before I clicked the link, I thought “Which one could he be referring to? Dodgers? Cardinals? Reds?” Then I clicked the link, and not only is it the Red Sox, but the Red Sox polyesters with a waistband and a two-toned cap. You, my friend, are sick. :-)

  • Johnny O | January 31, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment="213859"]The Packers don’t have official cheerleaders. they usually have some ladies from UW-GB or other local schools do some basic cheers at games, and they wear “traditional” uniforms (when the weather is cooperating).[/quote]

    You are correct Taha. The Packers get cheerleaders from UW-GB and St. Norbert College. They switch every week. You should see how many girls try out for cheerleading at SNC, because they know they get to go to four Packer games every year for free.

  • Joey Guns | January 31, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    Great article by CNBC’s Darren Rovell:

    Real Super Bowl Question: Will Belichick Wear His Hoodie?

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

    No way he wears it……

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment="213885"][quote comment="213879"][quote comment="213874"]In that picture of Bill Buckner, is that the infamous “Cubs” batting glove on his right hand sans the Cubs logo? It certainly looks to me to be a similar glove and the blue seems a bit too royal blue to match the Red Sox shade of dark blue. . .

    When is that picture from? It would be interesting if it in fact was after the ’86 world series.[/quote]

    It is from 1987 (note Rawlings logo). Sox wore Wilson road unis from 1979-1986.[/quote]

    When did Russell begin making all of the MLB uniforms and then subsequently Majestic?[/quote]

    MLB designated Rawlings official uniform supplier in 1987 (although several clubs including the Red Sox with their home set did not switch). Russell gained the same distinction in 1992. Along with the Red Sox home, the Yankees (H/A), Braves (H/A) Tigers (H), and Blue Jays (H/A) remained with Wilson. The Royals actually broke out a Wilson road set in the second half of 1989. I was told by a Wilson rep at the ’89 Winter Meetings that the players complained about the fit of the Rawlings gear. Since the Rawlings stuff was provided at no cost to the club, the idea of paying for uniforms had little appeal and the fill Rawlings sets were back for 1990.

    I have a harder time remembering the differences during the “Russell era”.

  • Marty Met | January 31, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment="213939"][quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    Pimpin’ ain’t easy![/quote]

    SWEET!!!!

  • Kenny | January 31, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    He will now be known as Huggy Bear

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment="213898"][quote comment="213886"]Oh man, the mismatched windbreaker takes a bad look to an entirely new (low) level.

    http://www.thatsmybo...
    AACK!! Where did Tiant get that thing, army surplus? (No offense to our fighting men and women in uniform) OD khaki and red do not a good color combo make – apologies to Yoda[/quote]

    Not that unusual for that time. The photo looks to be from spring training and players often like to wear what is known as a “rubber shirt” to help them loose weight. In the 1960′s specialize equipment was often left up to the individual and I doubt Luis Tiant cared how it looked doing wind sprints.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | January 31, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment="213917"][quote comment="213903"][quote comment="213870"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    “I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie.”[/quote]

    “It’s always been there.

    “It’s right next to the green dot and yellow ‘C’”.[/quote]

    [sarcasm]Oh, great. Everyone wants to be Shecky Fucking Greene.[/sarcasm][/quote]

    If I can show restraint enough to not post pics like this, then you all can refrain from making Yellow C and Green D comments! Ok, Ok.[/quote]

    Whew! For a minute there I thought you were actually going to post the link to the pic.

  • duker | January 31, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    I of course went to all the O’s pics in Steve’s Baseball photography pages. Check out this one of Brooks.

    It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?

  • B.G. | January 31, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    Yikes!!–those were some short shorts Jackie wore. Maybe the baggy look isn’t so bad…

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment="213970"][quote comment="213917"][quote comment="213903"][quote comment="213870"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    “I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie.”[/quote]

    “It’s always been there.

    “It’s right next to the green dot and yellow ‘C’”.[/quote]

    [sarcasm]Oh, great. Everyone wants to be Shecky Fucking Greene.[/sarcasm][/quote]

    If I can show restraint enough to not post pics like this, then you all can refrain from making Yellow C and Green D comments! Ok, Ok.[/quote]

    Whew! For a minute there I thought you were actually going to post the link to the pic.[/quote]

    no

  • Shane | January 31, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment="213865"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie[/quote]

    It’s a European thing, with the coach’s initials on warmups … AV on an Arsenal coach’s jacket mean’s Arsene Wenger.[/quote]

    Martin O’Neill almost always has a 31 on his shirts and jackets.

  • Don | January 31, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    This Tiant photo shows a Red Sox cap that is red in front and black in back. Is this a uniform variation?

    http://www.thatsmybo...;

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment="213961"][quote comment="213939"][quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    Pimpin’ ain’t easy![/quote]

    SWEET!!!![/quote]

    The following is an excerpt from a phone conversation between two friends which occurred sometime during the morning of January 30, 2008.:

    Craig, what up?”
    “Nothing much here, Bobby. You ready for the Bearcats this evening?”
    “Well, that’s kind of why I’m getting” at you, I need you to make my look TIGHT!”
    “Swell! I’ve got just the thing. By the way, did I ever happen to mention to you about the time I met Hank Aaron?’
    “About as many times as you’ve asked me about that yellow “C” bullshit, FOOL!”

  • Shane | January 31, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment="213983"]This Tiant photo shows a Red Sox cap that is red in front and black in back. Is this a uniform variation?

    http://www.thatsmybo...;[/quote]

    I wasn’t around back then, but they wore it in..I want to say 1974 for a few games.

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 31, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    Had to check out my team first, of course. Then I will spend the rest of the day going through the league.

    I wish some of them were dated better. This picture is called “08041stanley57″ and this one is called “08042freehan57″. Neither of those guys played for the Tigers in 1957, so I am assuming it is some sort of set ID. Anyways, they appear to be close in time, yet the players are wearing caps with different old English Ds.

    Also, for a period of time, the Tigers seem to have worn striped stirrups with their polyester road unis. I have seen vintage photos of the Tigers wearing stripes, but didn’t realize they did it that recently.

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment="213962"][quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    What about this guy?

    He could run for 100,000 yards in his career, but the first thing out of anyones’ mouths will be, “Yes, but were you aware that he is the son of Antonio Fargas, he of “Starsky and Hutch” fame.”

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 31, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    Here are the stirrups we just saw for sale on eBay.

  • Matt D. | January 31, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment="213863"]Paydirt. The 1974 Cleveland Indians red jersey, blue brim combination as modeled by Oscar Gamble (as 5 year old me and my father called “Mickey Mouse” as the ‘fro resembled mouse ears). All of this exiting the half Astroturf/half grass surface at Commiskey. The perfect storm. If you’ve never been there as I hadn’t until today, Steve’s Baseball Photography site is beyond words.

    [/quote]
    I’ve been looking for good Sox Sod pics for a while, and these might be the best I’ve seen. What a hideous idea.

  • Shaftman | January 31, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    Did the A’s really have the MLB logo on their uni’s or is that photoshopped in?

  • Juan Grande | January 31, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment="213961"][quote comment="213939"][quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    Pimpin’ ain’t easy![/quote]

    SWEET!!!![/quote]

    It is the shoes, man! The shoes make that entire outfit work. Just wear do you go to get lemon yellow patent leather shoes anyway?

  • Shaftman | January 31, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment="214000"]Did the A’s really have the MLB logo on their uni’s or is that photoshopped in?[/quote]

    And I meant to give you this link?

    But I was looking further and it seems that the logo is on many pics so I guess it was actually there.

  • ryan c #40 | January 31, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    mike schmidt’s hair is amazing in those photos! haha. great site!

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment="214003"][quote comment="213961"][quote comment="213939"][quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    Pimpin’ ain’t easy![/quote]

    SWEET!!!![/quote]

    It is the shoes, man! The shoes make that entire outfit work. Just wear do you go to get lemon yellow patent leather shoes anyway?[/quote]

    See post #51

  • The Ol Goaler | January 31, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    Ah, God Bless Steve! How the Cardinals ever went from this classic look (picture taken from Mr. Dewing’s front page; it’s his copyrighted material) to this still boggles the mind. (And pity the poor clubhouse guy who told Bob Gibson he hadda wear a baby-blue uniform!)

    Of course, some guys could even make the pullovers look good! It’s gotta be the socks…

  • jibblescribbits | January 31, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    Colorado Avalanche Goalie Peter Budaj donned a new lid last night:

    Everyone knows the guy on the back of the mask, but the guy on Budaj’s right is the main character from the video game Assassin’s Creed

    I’m not sure what the bird is on the dexter jaw is, and it’s hard to see but on Budaj’s left side it looks to be more Assassin’s Creed images.

    Hockey Masks are great

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.

    Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:

    Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?

  • Shaftman | January 31, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment="214008"]I will never complain about the stupid undershirts worn by today’s players again.[/quote]

    Notice that the piping on the sleeve holes don’t go all the way around either.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 31, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment="213884"]That link is addicting. And… images of the White Sox with their ’70s white hat![/quote]

    I have a picture that I love and hate at the same time – LOVE the Sox uni’s (especially the stirrups), but grit my teeth every time the name “Joe Foy” is mentioned – long-time Mets fans will remember that he was the ‘missing piece” who was acquired for this guy

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote]Just wear do you go to get lemon yellow patent leather shoes anyway?[/quote]

    where?

    try marty’s closet

  • Don | January 31, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    RE: Comment 59

    All major league teams wore the mlb logo on their uniform in 1969. IIRC it was a 100th anniversary logo.

  • Matt D. | January 31, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    50 Million WVU Fans Can’t Be Wrong!

    if anyone misses the joke, look here.

  • orlandor | January 31, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    Paul’s new ESPN column is here.

    All about the Giants.

  • Jim | January 31, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    ‘Boo,’ Radically

    Going with a To Kill A Mockingbird reference, Paul?

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment="214000"]Did the A’s really have the MLB logo on their uni’s or is that photoshopped in?[/quote]

    Patch was the 100th Anniversary of Baseball. I believe it is the advent of what has been the official logo since (the patch reads “100th ANNIVERSARY” at the bottom.

  • Noah | January 31, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    I never saw a photo from early in the 1970 season, before the helmet decals had been put on for the Brewers, until today…sweet.

    Brewers at Red Sox

  • Pat | January 31, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment="213942"][quote comment="213843"]Magic Johnson is an idiot. His insight doesn’t even deserve that mention.

    That baseball photo site is great. So many pics of the greatest uniform to ever hit the diamond.[/quote]

    Before I clicked the link, I thought “Which one could he be referring to? Dodgers? Cardinals? Reds?” Then I clicked the link, and not only is it the Red Sox, but the Red Sox polyesters with a waistband and a two-toned cap. You, my friend, are sick. :-)[/quote]

    Dude, those uniforms are great. I can’t get enough of them. Especially the socks. (I think we crashed that dude’s site. None of the full size picture are working.)

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment="214015"]Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.

    Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:

    Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?[/quote]

    Never a yellow crown with green bill (although Reggie wore that color schemed helmet in the ’71 All-Star Game). All yellow caps (and helmets)were worn (perhaps ’69-’70).

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment="214026"]‘Boo,’ Radically

    Going with a To Kill A Mockingbird reference, Paul?[/quote]

    In the film, guess who played Boo Radley!

    Robert Duvall

  • Joey Guns | January 31, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    Larry Johnson (Chiefs) is priceless:

    http://www.sportingn...

  • Carl G | January 31, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment="213836"]I have seen one picture of the Hawk Harrelson jersey. It is on a 1970 Topps baseball card insert that was included with the first series of cards that year.

    They raised the price of the cards from 5 cents a pack to 10 cents a pack and to alleviate the shock of the increase, Topps included something in every series of wax packs.

    The first series had these mini posters. One was of Ken Harrelson. It has a picture of Harrelson’s face and an action shot that shows “Hawk” on the back of the jersey.

    I think I still have it in my collection.

    If I can find it, I’ll scan it and email it.[/quote]

    Here is the picture he was talking about for Harrelson

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment="214031"](I think we crashed that dude’s site. None of the full size picture are working.)[/quote]

    /dude…that site is farked

  • ScottyJ in WV | January 31, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    I think we blowed up the Mr. Dewing’s site.

    Blowed it up real good.

  • Joel Keller | January 31, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    The baseball photo site doesn’t seem to be working for me. I either get a 999 error from Yahoo or broken links on the photos. Are we crashing this site?

  • orlandor | January 31, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment="214024"]Paul’s new ESPN column is here.

    All about the Giants.[/quote]

    Wow, the white with blue uniforms take the Giants from ehh and so-so to wow. This is evidence that sometimes a small change can completely improve a look without a major overhaul.

    Good call, Paul!

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment="214035"][quote comment="214015"]Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.

    Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:

    Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?[/quote]

    Never a yellow crown with green bill (although Reggie wore that color schemed helmet in the ’71 All-Star Game). All yellow caps (and helmets)were worn (perhaps ’69-’70).[/quote]

    Any pics of either?

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 11:54 am |
  • emd2k3 | January 31, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    What’s up with Joe Jackson’s socks?

    Sort of a combo low stirrup/full sock thing. Oh, and that’s Shoeless Joe, not the ‘Steppin’ Out’ guy.

  • kdkauf | January 31, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    I very good friend of mine played baseball for Augie Garrido at Illinois. Garrido never called the players by their names, just an expletive followed by their number.

    The company that did the practice jerseys was a local company. The owner was an alum of my Fraternity. I arranged for my friend to get a personalized NOB with DAMMIT. For almost half a season, he wore a DAMMIT 40 practice jersey. Garrido never noticed.

  • Philly Bill | January 31, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment="214010"]Colorado Avalanche Goalie Peter Budaj donned a new lid last night:

    Everyone knows the guy on the back of the mask, but the guy on Budaj’s right is the main character from the video game Assassin’s Creed

    I’m not sure what the bird is on the dexter jaw is, and it’s hard to see but on Budaj’s left side it looks to be more Assassin’s Creed images.

    Hockey Masks are great[/quote]

    Marty Turco also debuted a new mask in the first game after the All-Star break. I didn’t catch the backplate to check for the Matt McKee decal, but I assume it’s there because the rest of the team is still sporting it.

  • Tom | January 31, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    Great column on ESPN today, but I have to say I like the Giants look as it is. One thing I would like to see is red and blue striped socks with that instead of the solid reds. Make the sock stripes match the pattern and width of the stripes on the pants (thin red stripes outside of a thin blue stripe). Yes, it would go against the reason for having the all-red look (to honor the old uniforms) but I think it might work as a nice compromise between changing to all-blue and leaving it as it is. Just my two cents…

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment="214063"]Great column on ESPN today, but I have to say I like the Giants look as it is. One thing I would like to see is red and blue striped socks with that instead of the solid reds. Make the sock stripes match the pattern and width of the stripes on the pants (thin red stripes outside of a thin blue stripe). Yes, it would go against the reason for having the all-red look (to honor the old uniforms) but I think it might work as a nice compromise between changing to all-blue and leaving it as it is. Just my two cents…[/quote]

    Amen, exactly what I was thinking.

  • Paul Lukas | January 31, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    Today’s ESPN column is up. (Yes, I realize someone else has already posted the link, but my day just feels unfinished if I don’t post it here myself.)

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment="214049"][quote comment="214035"][quote comment="214015"]Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.

    Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:

    Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?[/quote]

    Never a yellow crown with green bill (although Reggie wore that color schemed helmet in the ’71 All-Star Game). All yellow caps (and helmets)were worn (perhaps ’69-’70).[/quote]

    Any pics of either?[/quote]

    Reggie:

    All yellow helmet:

    If someone can instruct me on posting photos w/o web hosting, I have a cap photo as well (sorry for the web ignorance).

  • Rick | January 31, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    Re:
    I of course went to all the O’s pics in Steve’s Baseball photography pages. Check out this one of Brooks.

    It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?

    It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…

    Also those Baltimroe away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.

  • Micah | January 31, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    That Hank Thomas is some serious stuff; I see where he is going with the photos. I don’t agree with everything (since I did graduate with an advertising degree after all!) he portrays, but it definitely provokes some serious discussion.

  • Rick | January 31, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    Re:
    It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?

    It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…

    Also those Baltimore away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.

  • Dave | January 31, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    Good ESPN article, but I agree with post #89 — I like the current red version better.

    Also, after reading the first paragraph, I thought for sure the article was going to be about the mismatched blue in the Giants 80s uniforms.

  • David | January 31, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment="214046"][quote comment="214024"]Paul’s new ESPN column is here.

    All about the Giants.[/quote]

    Wow, the white with blue uniforms take the Giants from ehh and so-so to wow. This is evidence that sometimes a small change can completely improve a look without a major overhaul.

    Good call, Paul![/quote]

    I’m surprised no one else has commented about this. I’m not a Giants fan, but I have to say that the current uniform is WAY better than Paul’s re-design (sorry, Paul). The red just stands out so well – switching to blue would be too plain, too common, too … blah.

    Giants, keep the look – red numbers, white shirts, silver pants, blue helmets – very nice!

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    nice column today paul…as a avid g-man fan i thought i knew alot about their unis…i was wrong again, and pleasantly surprised…also, i liked the photoshops, but i hope they don’t go back to the the blue/white away (although LT made those look sweet)…

    their current away is an exact replaca of 1956, so i can deal with it (although older/retro isn’t always better)

    just LOSE the red alt…that’s all i ask

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    This brim is definitely green!

    If someone can instruct me on posting photos w/o web hosting, I have a cap photo as well (sorry for the web ignorance).

    I don’t know about anybody else, but I opened up a photobucket and a Flickr account to host my pics and link to them!

    This yellow capped helmet is beautiful, any caps.

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    Seriously, that baseball site in icredible.

    Looking at this pic of Rollie Fingers makes me wonder:

    Have the A’s ever worn a cap with a yellow crown/green bill or all yellow with a green logo?

    Never a yellow crown with green bill (although Reggie wore that color schemed helmet in the ’71 All-Star Game). All yellow caps (and helmets)were worn (perhaps ’69-’70).

    Any pics of either?

    Reggie:

    http://www.mlb.com/d...

    All gold helmet:

    http://www.thatsmybo...

    Sorry the links wont “link”, again web ignorance.

  • Ian | January 31, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    Regarding Paul’s new ESPN article, I’m surprised nobody has commented on the Minnesota I-35W bridge tragedy decal on the rear of a Twins batting helmet. Could someone explain why on a Twins helmet the number is displayed using the Red Sox font? Hmm?

  • Kenny | January 31, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment="214081"][quote comment="214046"][quote comment="214024"]Paul’s new ESPN column is here.

    All about the Giants.[/quote]

    Wow, the white with blue uniforms take the Giants from ehh and so-so to wow. This is evidence that sometimes a small change can completely improve a look without a major overhaul.

    Good call, Paul![/quote]

    I’m surprised no one else has commented about this. I’m not a Giants fan, but I have to say that the current uniform is WAY better than Paul’s re-design (sorry, Paul). The red just stands out so well – switching to blue would be too plain, too common, too … blah.

    Giants, keep the look – red numbers, white shirts, silver pants, blue helmets – very nice![/quote]

    I would almost say add some blue stripes to the sleeves, DO NOT add a blue outline to the numbers

  • jibblescribbits | January 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment="214062"][quote comment="214010"]Colorado Avalanche Goalie Peter Budaj donned a new lid last night:

    Everyone knows the guy on the back of the mask, but the guy on Budaj’s right is the main character from the video game Assassin’s Creed

    I’m not sure what the bird is on the dexter jaw is, and it’s hard to see but on Budaj’s left side it looks to be more Assassin’s Creed images.

    Hockey Masks are great[/quote]

    Marty Turco also debuted a new mask in the first game after the All-Star break. I didn’t catch the backplate to check for the Matt McKee decal, but I assume it’s there because the rest of the team is still sporting it.[/quote]

    Turco’s new lid looks pretty nice, but I’d like to see it up close a little so we actually see what’s painted on there

  • Johnny O | January 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    Does anyone know what the Super Bowl XLIII logo will look like for next year? I know they come out usually a year ahead of time in the Program for the upcoming Super Bowl. Has anyone seen it yet?

  • CV | January 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment="214083"]nice column today paul…as a avid g-man fan i thought i knew alot about their unis…i was wrong again, and pleasantly surprised…also, i liked the photoshops, but i hope they don’t go back to the the blue/white away (although LT made those look sweet)…

    their current away is an exact replaca of 1956, so i can deal with it (although older/retro isn’t always better)

    just LOSE the red alt…that’s all i ask[/quote]

    My thoughts on the Giants unis are these:

    Helmets are pretty darn cool. Pants are cool, but in some light look like dirty grey, still pretty nice.

    But the jerseys are horrendous. The home blue is as boring as you could possibly get. Plain blue in a color that doesn’t match the helmet, with the only decorations being numbers I could make with a roll of tape. And as Paul so adequately pointed out, the road jerseys should be trimmed in BLUE not RED. The red Alt luckily combines the worst elements of each, the boringness of the the blue jersey with the odd overuse of red of the white jersey.

    Man, fix those jerseys and the Giants unis would be great, but as is they suck.

  • SATCH | January 31, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    See, even Tony Romo is laughing at the Giants’ red alternates.

    “You look dumb.”

  • lwiedy | January 31, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment="214085"]This brim is definitely green!

    If someone can instruct me on posting photos w/o web hosting, I have a cap photo as well (sorry for the web ignorance).

    I don’t know about anybody else, but I opened up a photobucket and a Flickr account to host my pics and link to them!

    This yellow capped helmet is beautiful, any caps.

    I have one, a photo of Blue Moon Odom from 1968. It is b/w and one could make the case that the cap is actually white. But only the mgr & coaches wore white so I really think it is yellow. Again, I will have to follow up on the flickr thing to participate better.

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment="214106"]See, even Tony Romo is laughing at the Giants’ red alternates.

    “You look dumb.”[/quote]

    No strap-lok on Romo’s helmet. And man do I ever love those red alts!

    This is officially the new caption contest pic.
    I was thoroughly disappointed by the poor showing with the Moss/Brady sweet nothing pic yesterday! We can do better.

  • scott | January 31, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    The 1980s-era Denver Broncos also used to have a problem matching colors, as their helmet was blue but their main uniform was orange. I always thought that a bid odd. Their white uniforms at the time, though, had blue numbers that matched the helmet color. For most teams, the color of the number on the white uniform is the same as the dark uniform color. The current Giants and the 1980s Broncos are the only teams I know who have strayed from that.

  • CV | January 31, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    I don’t even think it so much that the numbers don’t match, but rather that there is NO BLUE on the road jersey at all, when blue is the main Giants color so to speak.

  • CV | January 31, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    I don’t even think it so much that the numbers don’t match, but rather that there is NO BLUE on the road jersey at all, when blue is the main Giants color so to speak.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment="214114"][quote comment="214106"]See, even Tony Romo is laughing at the Giants’ red alternates.

    “You look dumb.”[/quote]

    No strap-lok on Romo’s helmet. And man do I ever love those red alts!

    This is officially the new caption contest pic.
    I was thoroughly disappointed by the poor showing with the Moss/Brady sweet nothing pic yesterday! We can do better.[/quote]

    no

  • Robb | January 31, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment="214115"]The 1980s-era Denver Broncos also used to have a problem matching colors, as their helmet was blue but their main uniform was orange. I always thought that a bid odd. Their white uniforms at the time, though, had blue numbers that matched the helmet color. For most teams, the color of the number on the white uniform is the same as the dark uniform color. The current Giants and the 1980s Broncos are the only teams I know who have strayed from that.[/quote]

    More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys, the (current) Texans use red numbers on their away jerseys, Buffalo Bills use royal numbers (home jerseys are navy, but they have a lot of quirks in their current unis), and the Falcons originally would have worn black jerseys which would clash with their red jersey numbers on the away jerseys. And you cant forget about UGA football. Any other ones that I didnt add?

  • Joey Guns | January 31, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    Is anyone going to watch the “Texas vs. the Nation” college all-star bowl this weekend? I had never even heard of it until 1 minute ago. Apparently it started last year……

    http://texasvsthenat...

  • Mark in Shiga | January 31, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    How about this for the Giants’ white jerseys?

    Put a blue border around the numbers with another white layer in between (like the Chargers used to). Same color scheme on the stripes down the pants.

    Dump that little balance-destroying “NY” logo and move the numbers up about an inch or two. Do the same on the backs, shrinking some of that extra white space around the nameplate.

    Then make the sleeve striping blue-white-red-white-blue, only much thinner so that the jersey doesn’t get too busy.

    This way you get all three Giants colors involved.

    And how about some white helmets? They’d have to trade the gray pants for white if they did that, but I think it could work.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 31, 2008 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment="214133"][quote comment="214115"]The 1980s-era Denver Broncos also used to have a problem matching colors, as their helmet was blue but their main uniform was orange. I always thought that a bid odd. Their white uniforms at the time, though, had blue numbers that matched the helmet color. For most teams, the color of the number on the white uniform is the same as the dark uniform color. The current Giants and the 1980s Broncos are the only teams I know who have strayed from that.[/quote]

    More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys, the (current) Texans use red numbers on their away jerseys, Buffalo Bills use royal numbers (home jerseys are navy, but they have a lot of quirks in their current unis), and the Falcons originally would have worn black jerseys which would clash with their red jersey numbers on the away jerseys. And you cant forget about UGA football. Any other ones that I didnt add?[/quote]

    Current Jaguars white uni’s have black numbers, and the home jersey is teal (alt is black)

  • CV | January 31, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment="214143"]How about this for the Giants’ white jerseys?

    Put a blue border around the numbers with another white layer in between (like the Chargers used to). Same color scheme on the stripes down the pants.

    Dump that little balance-destroying “NY” logo and move the numbers up about an inch or two. Do the same on the backs, shrinking some of that extra white space around the nameplate.

    Then make the sleeve striping blue-white-red-white-blue, only much thinner so that the jersey doesn’t get too busy.

    This way you get all three Giants colors involved.

    And how about some white helmets? They’d have to trade the gray pants for white if they did that, but I think it could work.[/quote]

    I like your ideas alot. I would go further and add the red to the Giants blue home jerseys in the same manner. You would also have to add sleeve stripes to the blue jerseys. Good job.

  • TimothyB | January 31, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    Vida Blue, FNOB only

    Never saw that before..

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    if you don’t like the g-men’s current jersey, sign the petition

    /don’t know how old this might be, don’t care

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 31, 2008 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment="214144"][quote comment="214133"][quote comment="214115"]The 1980s-era Denver Broncos also used to have a problem matching colors, as their helmet was blue but their main uniform was orange. I always thought that a bid odd. Their white uniforms at the time, though, had blue numbers that matched the helmet color. For most teams, the color of the number on the white uniform is the same as the dark uniform color. The current Giants and the 1980s Broncos are the only teams I know who have strayed from that.[/quote]

    More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys, the (current) Texans use red numbers on their away jerseys, Buffalo Bills use royal numbers (home jerseys are navy, but they have a lot of quirks in their current unis), and the Falcons originally would have worn black jerseys which would clash with their red jersey numbers on the away jerseys. And you cant forget about UGA football. Any other ones that I didnt add?[/quote]

    Current Jaguars white uni’s have black numbers, and the home jersey is teal (alt is black)[/quote]
    ….and if we’re picking nits (which we’re prone to do – the Cowboys blue trim on the white jersey ain’t even close to the color used on the blue jersey

  • JoeS | January 31, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment="214158"]if you don’t like the g-men’s current jersey, sign the petition

    /don’t know how old this might be, don’t care[/quote]
    NOOOO!! I love the fact that the Giants have very different home and away jerseys. I get so bored by teams that home and away jerseys that are essentially opposite of each other.
    I think the blue helmet of the Giants is iconic, but if you make the whole thing blue, then it is just boring. I think the old white unis were fine, but I like the current ones way better! (and this is coming from a still very bitter Green Bay fan)

  • Helmets Match Pants | January 31, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    The Saints have black numbers on their white jerseys and gold helmets…

    Of course, they did try to go with gold numbers a few years ago (which looked awesome) but the spotters claimed they had trouble identifiying players. Give me a break.

  • JoeS | January 31, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    While looking for pics of the giants I found this: perhaps a team could use this as the basis for a throwback.

  • Trav | January 31, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  • Paul Lukas | January 31, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment="214178"]Link[/quote]

    The blue collar trim helps a lot, too.

  • Bob | January 31, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment="214076"]Re:
    It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?

    It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…

    Also those Baltimore away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.[/quote]

    That’s Jay Mazzone, mentioned in uniwatch some time back. The O’s were my team as a kid, and I remember him clearly. His hands had been amputated when he was a child (burned I think), and he served for several years as Orioles batboy in the late-60′s/early-70′s glory days.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment="214173"]

    The Giants used to have a blue border around the number, which looks a lot better IMO.[/quote]

    yeah…at one time i had a kerry collins in that pattern…not sure what happened to it, but it’s gone now…i liked that jersey better because it worked with the blue helmets, and if you notice in the “link” post (below the orig), they wore the HOME pants…they specifically added the pants they have now when they dropped all blue from the jersey

  • JoeS | January 31, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment="214180"][quote comment="214076"]Re:
    It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?

    It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…

    Also those Baltimore away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.[/quote]

    That’s Jay Mazzone, mentioned in uniwatch some time back. The O’s were my team as a kid, and I remember him clearly. His hands had been amputated when he was a child (burned I think), and he served for several years as Orioles batboy in the late-60′s/early-70′s glory days.[/quote]

    Do you think in that batboy pic if you zoom in enough that right over the “Actual Photos” starburst it says in tiny print “These used to be”?

  • Trav | January 31, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment="214179"][quote comment="214178"]Link[/quote]

    The blue collar trim helps a lot, too.[/quote]

    As do the blue socks.

  • Mark in Shiga | January 31, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    I forgot to mention the socks in my Giants uniform proposal! They should also have blue-white-red-white-blue stripes on them, or maybe (if the pants are white) solid blue with a big red stripe (surrounded by slivers of white) in the middle.

  • Rick | January 31, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    Paul, any information from Joe Skiba about Amani Toomer’s Super Bowl jersey? Is it going to be cut differently, similar to the ones he’s been wearing (but in blue) for the other playoff games?

    Bryan, have you been able to track down Dallas Clark about the American flag on his helmet yet?

  • MPowers1634 | January 31, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    A side note concerning the Giants Uni-talk. I was literally next door to The Pizza Factory, remember the Steelers delivery truck, and I saw this T-shirt hanging in the window of a deli.

    I find it interesting how they chose to use Revolution style helmets for the graphics. I don’t think that I have evr seen that before.

  • duker | January 31, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment="214074"]Re:
    I of course went to all the O’s pics in Steve’s Baseball photography pages. Check out this one of Brooks.

    It looks like the bat boy has a prosthetic hook!?

    It actually looks like there are 2 hooks in the picture. A no handed bat boy? Interesting…

    Also those Baltimroe away jerseys are the best. There is a huge ground swell by fans to put Baltimore back on the jerseys, but the little tyrant that owns the team refuses.[/quote]

    Yeah man, I think the majority of Baltimorians want the away jersey to say Baltimore, I know I do. Ever since the Nats moved in the O’s don’t need to market to the DC suburb crowd anymore.

  • Johnny O | January 31, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    When I saw the title of todays topic, I thought the subject matter would be on this Southern, camo-wearing, tobacco chewing, Mossy Oak sponsored golfer

    Boo Weekley’s real name is Thomas by the way. And he got his nickname from “Boo boo bear”… Yogi’s friend.

  • warren thompson | January 31, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    I wonder how Giants’ fans would react to uniforms from the 1930s, i.e., red helmets and red jerseys? Or, from the late 1940s, blue, long-sleeved jerseys with a white stripe running from shoulder to cuff (the era in which Filchock and Mapes were involved in a bribery scandal)?

  • Frankie | January 31, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    In regards to Paul’s ESPN article, I was thinking of something along the lines of this. I used to think red numbers and red socks, or even red numbers and blue socks would look okay with the white jersey, but it just didn’t. That’s how I came up with the mock up.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 31, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment="214215"]When I saw the title of todays topic, I thought the subject matter would be on this Southern, camo-wearing, tobacco chewing, Mossy Oak sponsored golfer

    Boo Weekley’s real name is Thomas by the way. And he got his nickname from “Boo boo bear”… Yogi’s friend.[/quote]

    Where’s his tie?
    At least this Boo ( the golfer) has pants

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment="214104"]Does anyone know what the Super Bowl XLIII logo will look like for next year? I know they come out usually a year ahead of time in the Program for the upcoming Super Bowl. Has anyone seen it yet?[/quote]

    I have the SB program. Yep. It’s in there. It’s nice. I’ll scan it here in a minute.

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment="214133"]More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys…[/quote]

    The Bucs actually tried orange numbers with red trim in their first year, but they weren’t as easy to see as people (particularly broadcasters) would have liked, so they reversed it the next year (Ah, so much better).

    The Raiders’ silver numbers on white jerseys were IMPOSSIBLE to see. How Bill King did it, I have no idea.

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 4:06 pm |

    Here’s something else folks are forgetting: When you’re dealing with colors on different surfaces, it’s not easy to get them to match. The properties of a helmet versus the properties of a piece of cloth in a jersey mean you can’t always get the exact match, even if you start from the same PMS colors. At least, I think that’s right.

  • Kerry P | January 31, 2008 at 4:06 pm |

    HERE is the official site for the Super Bowl XLIII hosting committee. that logo is a nice one. I have still yet to find any logo for Super Bowl XLIII.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 4:08 pm |
  • Kerry P | January 31, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    I DID find the 2009 NCAA FINAL FOUR LOGO while searching. Not too bad.

  • Greg V. | January 31, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment="214237"]In regards to Paul’s ESPN article, I was thinking of something along the lines of this. I used to think red numbers and red socks, or even red numbers and blue socks would look okay with the white jersey, but it just didn’t. That’s how I came up with the mock up.[/quote]

    I like this one the best. The all blue trim in Paul’s article makes them look too much like the Cowboys.

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?

  • Stuby | January 31, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
    They’re getting worse every year. Damn, that’s ugly.

  • Stuby | January 31, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
    They’re getting worse every year. Damn, that’s ugly.

  • Jordan | January 31, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment="214168"]While looking for pics of the giants I found this: perhaps a team could use this as the basis for a throwback.[/quote]

    I’ve had this painting since I was five years old…has a little more history to it now that OJ is known more for other things rather than football.
    http://www.bnr-art.c...

  • Jeff B | January 31, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]

    That’s about 12x worse than this year’s logo.

  • Johnny O | January 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]

    Thanks for the post KT… but seriously… WTF? I see the trademark red and blue stars that this designer has done the last few years. But what’s up with the turf and such? Kind of disappointing, but on the other hand, it will look really nice on the Pack’s jerseys.

  • Jeff B | January 31, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]

    This one?

  • bryan | January 31, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    That Super Bowl XLIII logo has the same feel to it as the Pats’ “flying Elvis.”

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment="214264"][quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]

    This one?[/quote]

    Yeah, that’s the one, thanks.

    The revised one was much better than the original.

    But, yeah, there haven’t been great ones lately.

    BTW, here are the first 41.

    Of that group, only 1993, 1995, 2001 and 2003 stand out to me. The first 16, it’s like they didn’t even care.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment="214262"]it will look really nice on the Pack’s jerseys.[/quote]

    on this jersey

    which is to say…neither will be appearing in SBXLIII

  • Kerry P | January 31, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]
    Starting with Super Bowl XL, it looks like they started to go away from trying to identify the logo with the location (except for XLII – which is obvious).

    If I remember correctly, isn’t an in-house design department designing the logos now? Also, what’s the “catch-phrase” for the game next year? XL was “The Drive for Forty”; XLI was “One Game One Dream”; XLII is “Who Wants it More”.

    As for Super Bowl XXXVI, there were only 3 logos I ever saw: Original; Final; Alternate (according to SportsLogos.net).

  • Stuby | January 31, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment="214262"][quote comment="214255"]Next year’s Super Bowl logo.

    What was the original logo for Super Bowl XXXVI before they (I believe) changed it after the 9/11 attacks?[/quote]

    Thanks for the post KT… but seriously… WTF? I see the trademark red and blue stars that this designer has done the last few years. But what’s up with the turf and such? Kind of disappointing, but on the other hand, it will look really nice on the Pack’s jerseys.[/quote]
    Are the stars meant to represent the AFC and NFC? Seems kinda forced into the logo.

  • Mark K | January 31, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment="214072"]Today’s ESPN column is up. (Yes, I realize someone else has already posted the link, but my day just feels unfinished if I don’t post it here myself.)

    Is Uni Watch the only one who thinks it looks like a sliding minivan door?
    [/quote]

    Thanks for pointing that out- without it I would’ve never realized that it’s the outline of the state of Arizona.

  • Kerry P | January 31, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    My last post was eaten …help!!!

    Also, look at the logos starting with Super Bowl XL, the red and blue stars are in all of the new logos, the font for the “XL…” is the same – just different colors from year to year – and the font for the word “Super Bowl” as well as the [sarcasm] nifty [/sarcasm] tag-lines for each game has been the same since last year, Super Bowl XLI.

  • C.J. | January 31, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    The “sliding minivan door” reference in the ESPN.com column appears to be a heavily-stylized outline of the state of Arizona. The “X” covers what would be the most detailed portion.

    XLII logo

    Outline of Arizona

  • Zac | January 31, 2008 at 5:25 pm |

    Does anybody know whose jacket this is and how old it is? Perhaps this might help?

  • Paul Lukas | January 31, 2008 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment="214286"]The “sliding minivan door” reference in the ESPN.com column appears to be a heavily-stylized outline of the state of Arizona. The “X” covers what would be the most detailed portion.

    XLII logo

    Outline of Arizona[/quote]

    Yes, I know it’s the outline of Arizona. I thought we all knew that. I’m just saying (as have many others over the past year or so) that the way the shape is angled and contoured makes it look like a minivan door.

  • spencer | January 31, 2008 at 5:33 pm |

    The giants red helmets that you have in the espn column look awesome, they should start wearing them next year because they are awesome. The all blue road uniforms are ugly. The red uniforms with the red helmet would be amazing.

  • JKim | January 31, 2008 at 5:36 pm |

    According to this article (in the second to last sentence) , the Queensland Reds an Australian rugby team had to wear their alternate green kits this past week because a laundromat fire destroyed their primary jerseys. ha ha.
    There is a small accompanying photo…the jerseys are pretty terrible to boot…

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment="214289"]Yes, I know it’s the outline of Arizona. I thought we all knew that. I’m just saying (as have many others over the past year or so) that the way the shape is angled and contoured makes it look like a minivan door.[/quote]

    Yeah, but what’s the green dot for?

    /ducks

  • Bill T. | January 31, 2008 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment="213836"]I have seen one picture of the Hawk Harrelson jersey. It is on a 1970 Topps baseball card insert that was included with the first series of cards that year.

    They raised the price of the cards from 5 cents a pack to 10 cents a pack and to alleviate the shock of the increase, Topps included something in every series of wax packs.

    The first series had these mini posters. One was of Ken Harrelson. It has a picture of Harrelson’s face and an action shot that shows “Hawk” on the back of the jersey.

    I think I still have it in my collection.

    If I can find it, I’ll scan it and email it.[/quote]

    Found it.

  • =bg= | January 31, 2008 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment="213961"][quote comment="213939"][quote comment="213925"]Bob Huggins looking like a banana last night vs. UC.

    http://cmsimg.cincin...

    Pimpin’ ain’t easy![/quote]

    SWEET!!!![/quote]

    Huggs! Say it ain’t so. He used to have a resteraunt across the st from my house..The “Huggs-Inn.”

  • Jeff B | January 31, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment="214298"][quote comment="213836"]I have seen one picture of the Hawk Harrelson jersey. It is on a 1970 Topps baseball card insert that was included with the first series of cards that year.

    They raised the price of the cards from 5 cents a pack to 10 cents a pack and to alleviate the shock of the increase, Topps included something in every series of wax packs.

    The first series had these mini posters. One was of Ken Harrelson. It has a picture of Harrelson’s face and an action shot that shows “Hawk” on the back of the jersey.

    I think I still have it in my collection.

    If I can find it, I’ll scan it and email it.[/quote]

    Found it.[/quote]

    Oh young Hawk, before he was a terrible play by play guy for the White Sox.

  • Graf Zeppelin | January 31, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    Paul, you know I love your stuff, and have for many years, but I have to disagree with you on the Giants. I think their road uniform is beautiful. Red, white and blue always look good together (except for multi-shade monstrosities like the Buffalo Bills) and the Giants’ predominantly-red road jersey under the blue helmet is a clean, classic look. I understand the logic behind your contention that it ought to be blue, but I really like this look. I was very happy when they switched from the previous blue-trimmed road jersey.

    My only complaints about the Giants uniforms are:

    - The metallic blue paint on the helmet; clashes with the retro design.
    - The home jerseys are very plain, which is not a terrible thing, but putting the numerals on the sleeves instead of the shoulders (see: 1994 TB) would help improve the balance.
    - As much as I like the grey pants, white pants would be better at home (see again: 1994 TB)

    See you Saturday…….. :-)

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment="214298"]Found it.[/quote]

    You cannnnnnnnn…put it back in the closet! Yes!

  • =bg= | January 31, 2008 at 5:52 pm |

    Nice shot of LeMaster. Notice the BROOKS cleats. In the early 70s it was all Adidas and Puma..then Nike came in mid 70s..but for some reason, Brooks absolutely TOOK OVER in MLB for awhile..had some other brands in there too like Pony and Converse. But Brooks was everywhere.

  • Kerry P | January 31, 2008 at 5:55 pm |

    Paul,

    I really enjoyed the snippet about the design process of the Patriots logo. I would KILL to see some of the other logos that were submitted for entry!

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment="214305"]Found it.[/quote]

    is teh hawk wearing his stirrups sdrawkcab?

  • patrick | January 31, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

    Following up on yesterday’s discussion about the new US mens Soccer team jersey, the soccer fanhouse blog absolutely tears it to shreads, along with a quote from the blog, youll never stand alone. Link is below if you want to check it out. Basically, they say it looks like a polo shirt.

    http://sports.aol.co...

  • patrick | January 31, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

    Following up on yesterday’s discussion about the new US mens Soccer team jersey, the soccer fanhouse blog absolutely tears it to shreads, along with a quote from the blog, youll never stand alone. Link is below if you want to check it out. Basically, they say it looks like a polo shirt.

  • =bg= | January 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm |

    One more thing. Watching the 3pm PT SportsCenter. Tune this in and see if I am wrong.
    MAN do Tom Jackson and Steve Levy have a TON of makeup on. Jackson looks like the Mr. Big, the bad guy in Live and Let Die. I think even Emmitt Smith has too much makeup on. Frightening.

  • Johnny O | January 31, 2008 at 6:17 pm |

    If one more person in the media complains about the weather in Arizona I am gonna freak out! I am just now thawing out from the NFC Championship game and it is currently 10 degrees here in Janesville, WI (it was -25 yesterday) compared to a balmy 57 in Arizona.

    sorry for the rant….

  • spencer | January 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    [quote comment="214301"]Paul, you know I love your stuff, and have for many years, but I have to disagree with you on the Giants. I think their road uniform is beautiful. Red, white and blue always look good together (except for multi-shade monstrosities like the Buffalo Bills) and the Giants’ predominantly-red road jersey under the blue helmet is a clean, classic look. I understand the logic behind your contention that it ought to be blue, but I really like this look. I was very happy when they switched from the previous blue-trimmed road jersey.

    My only complaints about the Giants uniforms are:

    - The metallic blue paint on the helmet; clashes with the retro design.
    - The home jerseys are very plain, which is not a terrible thing, but putting the numerals on the sleeves instead of the shoulders (see: 1994 TB) would help improve the balance.
    - As much as I like the grey pants, white pants would be better at home (see again: 1994 TB)

    See you Saturday…….. :-)[/quote]

    The bills have the best uniforms in the nfl.

  • Dean | January 31, 2008 at 6:27 pm |

    What happens when football teams make songs??
    http://www.holytaco....

  • Bryan Redemske | January 31, 2008 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment="214308"][quote comment="214305"]Found it.[/quote]

    is teh hawk wearing his stirrups sdrawkcab?[/quote]

    Is it because he’s an idiot?

  • Mike D | January 31, 2008 at 7:27 pm |

    The current New York Football Giants jerseys are perfect, they don’t need to change them.

    Also, I was looking through a Sports Illustrated for Kids (I was bored), and I saw a picture of Barry Zito with his jersey on and it had his name on the back, but it looked cream, not gray. So are the SF Giants wearing NOB’s at home this year? Hopefully not.

  • Dom | January 31, 2008 at 7:30 pm |

    Talk about logo creep

    http://farm1.static....

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 7:51 pm |
  • Sean | January 31, 2008 at 9:41 pm |

    Paul,
    I noticed that at one time you had did research on famous one time uniforms such as the 1988 Syracuse blue jerseys.

    I found this clip on the web of Syracuse vs. North Carolina in the 1975 NCAA Tournament. After the short ad and the cartoon intro, they actually show the Orangemen wearing navy blue uniforms! Syracuse actually upsets the Tarheels 78-76!

    One question though, was this navy jersey a one time thing, or did they wear them on the road all the time? Anyone else has any answers?

  • Beats in Buffalo | January 31, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    I know Paul won’t be able to comment but didn’t he mention previously that his source at the Giants told him next year they were making uniform modifications (a helmet change seems to ring a bell) to make the differance between the uni sets less drastic? Let the theories begin

  • Robb | January 31, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    [quote comment="214243"][quote comment="214133"]More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys…[/quote]

    The Bucs actually tried orange numbers with red trim in their first year, but they weren’t as easy to see as people (particularly broadcasters) would have liked, so they reversed it the next year (Ah, so much better).

    The Raiders’ silver numbers on white jerseys were IMPOSSIBLE to see. How Bill King did it, I have no idea.[/quote]

    I know, but I just felt that because they only wore the orange numbers for one of the 20-some years they wore that design, that it was kind of a mute point.

  • Fran in Fresno | January 31, 2008 at 10:31 pm |

    Four things:

    1) Similar but different: On the baseball jersey name front, the coolest one I remember from my high school years (late ’70s) wasn’t a name change — it was a number change. When Carlos May played for the White Sox, he wore No. 38 — until Bill Veeck changed the uni number to match Carlos’ birthday: MAY 17.

    2) GREAT baseball pic site. It was worth it just for the Angels in the halo helmets and the Pilots with the scrambled-egg helmets. Bonus points for Nate Colbert in the daffodil yellow Padres threads …

    3) Re: the Flying Elvis: If my memory (not senile yet) serves me correctly, I remember in the early to mid-’80s, on the sports desk at my hometown paper, seeing a Boston Herald readers’ poll as to whether the team should keep Pat Patriot or go with a logo that looked a lot like Flying Elvis … and Pat won by a landslide …

    4) Hey Paul — I like the Giants’ road jerseys as is. (I never liked the white jerseys with the blue numbers much, though the mid-’70s ones were much better than the team playing in them.) But if you’re that insistent about blue — hey, let’s split the difference between the red and blue and Go Big Purple! (A big Barney Rubble a-Hee-Hee …)

  • Sammy | January 31, 2008 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment="214251"]I DID find the 2009 NCAA FINAL FOUR LOGO while searching. Not too bad.[/quote]

    Yeah, it looks pretty good, but why does it have to be PURPLE?

  • KT | January 31, 2008 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment="214409"][quote comment="214243"][quote comment="214133"]More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys…[/quote]

    The Bucs actually tried orange numbers with red trim in their first year, but they weren’t as easy to see as people (particularly broadcasters) would have liked, so they reversed it the next year (Ah, so much better).

    The Raiders’ silver numbers on white jerseys were IMPOSSIBLE to see. How Bill King did it, I have no idea.[/quote]

    I know, but I just felt that because they only wore the orange numbers for one of the 20-some years they wore that design, that it was kind of a mute point.[/quote]

    Or a moot point.

    Points can’t talk, so they’re always mute.

    But they’re not all obsolete or irrelevant.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 10:54 pm |
  • dond | January 31, 2008 at 11:14 pm |

    Here’s one my wifes best friends dad.

  • dond | January 31, 2008 at 11:17 pm |
  • Lindsay | January 31, 2008 at 11:22 pm |

    The first thing I thought of after reading today’s ESPN column was New England College’s hockey uniforms. I saw them play live a couple of years ago, and I was distracted the entire game by how odd the blue helmet looked with a uniform that featured very little blue at all, much like the Giants. Here’s a photo. Their red uniforms are even more atrocious, as seen here.

    And while I’m on the topic of hockey uniform’s whose color schemes bug, can I whine about Williams College (besides the whole wearing purple thing, because that’s an issue for another day)? The fact that they wear black shorts with their white jerseys when there is not a drop of black anywhere else on the uniform bugs me to no end. There’s no problem with their yellow or purple jersey – they wear purple shorts with those. I don’t understand why they just don’t wear the purple shorts with the white jerseys too. I can’t think of another team that wears shorts of a color that doesn’t appear somewhere in the color scheme, even if it’s just in the striping or a secondary logo.

  • Peligro | January 31, 2008 at 11:23 pm |

    It is still suprising to me that it would be that cold in January, in Green Bay, for the NFC Championship Game. It bottles the mind.

    {[SARCASM]}

  • Robb | January 31, 2008 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment="214427"][quote comment="214409"][quote comment="214243"][quote comment="214133"]More teams that did different color numbers: Raiders did it with their silver numbers on their away jerseys, Tampa Bay used red away numbers back when they wore orange home jerseys…[/quote]

    The Bucs actually tried orange numbers with red trim in their first year, but they weren’t as easy to see as people (particularly broadcasters) would have liked, so they reversed it the next year (Ah, so much better).

    The Raiders’ silver numbers on white jerseys were IMPOSSIBLE to see. How Bill King did it, I have no idea.[/quote]

    I know, but I just felt that because they only wore the orange numbers for one of the 20-some years they wore that design, that it was kind of a mute point.[/quote]

    Or a moot point.

    Points can’t talk, so they’re always mute.

    But they’re not all obsolete or irrelevant.[/quote]

    Eh…I’m a college student, I’m allowed to make mistakes

  • Eric B | February 1, 2008 at 12:17 am |

    what a shame that next year’s logo doesn’t inclue an image of the state of florida. i’ll have to save my observation that it looks like the thing hanging in the back of my throat for some other time.

    if denver ever hosts a SB, i have my colorado/cookie sheet references ready to roll.

  • LI Phil | February 1, 2008 at 12:34 am |

    [quote comment="214453"]what a shame that next year’s logo doesn’t inclue an image of the state of florida. i’ll have to save my observation that it looks like the thing hanging in the back of my throat for some other time.[/quote]

    i’ll take “the uvula” for $500 alex”

  • Terry Mark | February 1, 2008 at 1:18 am |

    I haven’t posted anything in a while (not that I did so much to begin with), though I’ve continued to read regularly. I just wanted to share with everyone the e-mail I just sent to the Oakland A’s regarding their new black jerseys. I doubt I’ll get a response, but it was therapeutic to vent my frustrations. I hope you enjoy:

    As a longtime fan of the A’s, I could not contain my delight when I saw the new black alternate jerseys that the team will apparently wear this season.

    It is a brilliant move to build the A’s brand identity and will further emphasize green and gold as the franchise’s primary colors by using them in such a subtle way.

    I believe this move will also help set the team apart from all the other MLB franchises that wear black jerseys. Since Oakland is the only MLB franchise that uses green and gold as their primary colors, it is wise to move away from that color scheme. The Oakland A’s can only further built its brand identity by wearing black jerseys just as the New York Mets, Florida Marlins, Pittsburgh Pirates, Colorado Rockies, Baltimore Orioles and Chicago White Sox do.

    Now when fans from all over see a black jersey with a white wordmark and gold trim, they will automatically identify that looks as distinctly “Oakland”, just as fans all over the world recognize black jerseys with white lettering as that of the Chicago White Sox. Similarly, black jerseys with gold lettering is tied to Pittsburgh, while black jerseys with white lettering and silver trim is synonymous with Florida, and so on and so on.

    From a purely aesthetic perspective, the black jerseys are gorgeous. Since ballparks are so colorful these days, white jerseys would only distract fans. The absence of color, on the other hand, is very avant garde and cosmopolitan.

    If I may make a suggestion, I believe the A’s should investigate introducing another alternate jersey for the 2009 season — the gray jersey. This would make Oakland very distinctive, since no other MLB team uses it on regular basis. If worn on the road, this look could even possibly help fans distinguish the home team from the road team. While I acknowledge this would be a very unorthodox move, I urge the Oakland A’s franchise to give this radical move some serious thought. It would send shockwaves through MLB, I’m sure.

  • James Craven | February 1, 2008 at 2:14 am |

    That SB XLIII logo is carptastic, craptacular and crapalicious all at once!

  • James Craven | February 1, 2008 at 2:50 am |

    [quote comment="213917"][quote comment="213903"][quote comment="213870"][quote comment="213835"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0801/nfl.casting.choices.sbmovie/content.9.html

    “I never noticed before the “BB” on his hoodie.”[/quote]

    “It’s always been there.

    “It’s right next to the green dot and yellow ‘C’”.[/quote]

    [sarcasm]“Oh, great. Everyone wants to be Shecky Fucking Greene.”[/sarcasm][/quote]

    “If I can show restraint enough to not post pics like this, then you all can refrain from making Yellow C and Green D comments!”
    [/quote]

    I thought another picture from the Southern California-Illinois about another “moon shot” if you know what I mean my friend.

  • Charles Nimsk | February 1, 2008 at 3:06 am |

    I disagree on the matter of red in the giants road uniform. I like it. Their colors are red, white and blue. Traditionally the giants havn’t had red in their home uniforms. Therefore it makes sense to have it on their road uniforms. I think the combination looks quite good, even with the grey pants. Overall, the giants have one of the best uniforms in the league. And this is coming from a steelers fan.

    Chuck

  • brian | February 1, 2008 at 8:28 am |

    I checked out the Mets portion of Steve Dewing’s site and saw a picture of Kingman in a grey road uni at LA with “Mets” on the front instead of the traditional “New York”. How many years did they do this for???

  • Sean | February 1, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment="214752"]I checked out the Mets portion of Steve Dewing’s site and saw a picture of Kingman in a grey road uni at LA with “Mets” on the front instead of the traditional “New York”. How many years did they do this for???[/quote]

    The Mets wore “Mets” instead of “New York” from 1974-1986 that includes a few road uniform revsions, including a racing stripe from 1983-1986. In 1987, “New York” was reintroduced but in the same type of script as the Mets logo. “New York” would be in block letters from 1988-1992 and a different script variant from 1993-1994, before bringing back the classic “New York” wordmark in 1995.

    My source.

  • ScottyJ in WV | February 1, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment="214157"]Vida Blue, FNOB only

    Never saw that before..[/quote]

    Love that! He was one of my favorite players growing up and a good bit of the reason why was because he only had his 1st name on his jersey.
    Plus I just loved to watch him pitch!

  • Chris | February 1, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    Apparently Phil Hughes is changing his number, he said it on his personal blog

    http://philhughes.wo...

  • Brett | February 1, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    I know I’ve seen Oscar Robertson with an “O” on the back of his warm-up jacket when he played for the Bucks. Don’t know if it made it onto his jersey.

  • Dan | February 4, 2008 at 1:42 am |

    Paul, having seen the two in your column between current Giants and blue replacing red, you’re right that there’s no comparison. The red is easily superior to the blue.

  • steve | February 7, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    you mentioned the “backwards” orioles cap on j. bateman, saying it must have been reversed. to confirm this, notice also the steering wheel on the right side of the truck!