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All the Uni News That Fit, They Printed

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I’m probably the first writer to cover the sports uniform beat on a regular basis — or even to conceive of uniforms as a legitimate sports beat to begin with — but that’s not to say uniform coverage didn’t exist prior to the advent of Uni Watch (indeed, I cited a key 1970s example just the other day). Reader Doug Mooney recently found a bunch of uni-related articles in the archives of the New York Times, and they clearly show that uniform coverage was alive and well in the 1950s. Here they are, listed chronologically:

April 2nd, 1950: “Hollywood Sets New Baseball Fad; Players Wear Shorts, Rayon Shirts.” This article is about, of course, the Hollywood Stars, who wore shorts in 1950 (additional info here). Key quote, from one of the Stars’ players: “Let ’em razz us, they’ll all be wearing them in another year or so.” Uh, right. Full text available here and here.

February 26th, 1956: “Cards Redesign Suits.” This short AP item is of particular interest, because it refers to the uniforms that the Cardinals unveiled in this photo. As you may recall, the road jersey shown in that shot — the one with the “St. L.” insignia — was never used, and the circumstances surrounding it have never been fully explained. I devoted a blog entry to that subject about a year ago.

August 12th, 1956: “What’s a Man to Wear Afield?” The subheading of this article, which ran in the paper’s Sunday magazine section, reads, “If he is a member of the Cincinnati Redlegs, he wears a vest instead of a shirt and pants with built-in knee pads,” which gives you an idea of the subject at hand. To provide some context, this was the season when Cincy’s uniforms changed from this to this. Key quotes: “The Redlegs’ new uniforms are as spectacular, in terms of costume, as the rabbit ball was in terms of window-breakage when Babe Ruth single-handedly revised baseball” and “The pitchers, whose arms supposedly so exceptionally precious, of course, are expected to wear their [under]sleeves long, to avoid chills, vapors or other calamities.” Lots of other good details regarding fabrics, tailoring, performance features, and more. And here’s a tantalizing tidbit: At one point the article mentions that Branch Rickey “attempted to put the Pittsburgh team into shorts, like lady softball players.” I’d never heard about that one before. Anyone else? Essential reading, available here.

February 24th, 1958: “Giants Favor New Slim Look for Men in Gray Flannel Suits.” This item — written by Gay Talese, no less! — is one of those filler stories that writers come up with on slow days during spring training. Of course, one man’s filler is another man’s front-page news, and this article does not disappoint. Key quote: “[Ray] Kolas, who works for Wilson Sporting Goods, twirls his tape measure around 600 players each season. He keeps a measurement chart report on each player that would do credit to Brooks Brothers. For instance, on his chart of the Detroit pitcher Jim Bunning, Kolas noted: ‘Taper shirt — has small hips (no seat).’ ” Several other gems too, all available here.

February 1st, 1959: “Major League Fashion Note: New Flannel; Nylon-Wool Fabric Reduces Uniform Weight by Half.” We all know that the Pirates were the first team to switch to solid-polyester double-knits, in 1970. But when did synthetic fibers first start being incorporated into MLB uniforms? According to this article, it was in 1959, when most teams went from solid wool to a 60/40 wool/nylon blend. The article also includes loads of uni-related ephemera, including this classic: “Yogi Berra, Yankee catcher and a dude, tops the best-dressed players with eight pairs of pants. Relief pitchers and bullpen catchers are not hard on clothes, except pants seats.” Get the full scoop here and here.

I know that’s a lot of material to read. But trust me — these are all well worth your time.

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Alpha-Numeric Update: On Monday I wrote about this unusual uniform number (details here). That led to this note from Bob Jaye, which ran in Tuesday’s Ticker:

In a college all-star game following the 1971 season (Senior Bowl, perhaps), the South team had two quarterbacks who’d both worn No. 7 during their stellar careers. So Florida’s John Reaves wore 7R and Auburn’s Pat Sullivan wore 7S, respectively. Unfortunately, I can’t find a photo.

Intriguing, right? I didn’t have time this week to go hunting for a photo. But Bob’s brother, Davis Jaye, did. He contacted the Senior Bowl, whose offices were only too happy to provide him with these pics of Sullivan and Reaves. Big thanks to both Jaye brothers for their stellar contributions to the historical record.

capper.png Roster Restoration Update: We’re still missing 17 names from the membership roster (in case you’ve missed it, about 90 names were wiped off the list by a software glitch, and I’ve been trying to get everything back to normal). So if you haven’t already done so, all enrolled members should PLEASE check the roster listing. If you don’t see your name there, e-mail me your name, membership uni number, membership level, and why you chose your number. If your name linked to a photo, please re-send it. And if you’d like to help speed up the process a bit more, pick out your card from the design gallery and send me its URL. Big thanks for everyone’s help.

Meanwhile, anyone recognize today’s showcase card? It’s from the Arena League’s Colorado Crush.

Uni Watch News Ticker: My article on bullpen buggy history, which was posted yesterday on ESPN, is here. … Big kerfuffle in Florida over the proposed new uniforms for workers at Miami-Dade International Airport. Full details, plus an amusingly worded reader poll, here (nice find by Jonah Bamel). … Bowling Green’s athletic director discusses why the school changed its helmet design this season here (with thanks to Tom Konecny). … If you’ve ever wanted to dress up Steve Spurrier, here’s your chance (with thanks to Ronnie Poore). … I did a blog entry on World Series press pins about a year ago, but now Zach Siron has found a bunch of them for sale on eBay. Some real beauties, too. Look here, here, here, here, here, and here. Plus Zach also found an All-Star Game press pin and Gabby Hartnett’s lifetime pass (“which were apparently given out to players who had retired with much acclaim, local sportswriters, or other similar stars,” says Zach). Great stuff. … Florida State will be wearing their black uniforms against Duke next weekend. … The Green Bay Press-Gazette just posted a small gallery of Packers photos from 1942. Of particular interest: The ref’s beret (note the separate stripe pattern on the sleeve cuff, too), the uniforms being worn by the Western Army All-Stars (they’re the ones with the stripes), and these totally cool dusters.

 

166 comments to All the Uni News That Fit, They Printed

  • dgc | October 19, 2007 at 8:19 am |

    DeShawn Stevenson of the Wizards getting his name tattooed on his back, possibly adding a 2 to make it look like a jersey: link here

  • Jason Axel | October 19, 2007 at 8:19 am |

    what happened to this im not gonna post until 10 or so? its not even 830 in the morning! i came to reread yesterdays entry and this was up already! go back to bed paul.

  • DJ | October 19, 2007 at 8:24 am |

    I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.

  • Mike | October 19, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.

  • Gabe | October 19, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    Link to the Crush photo isn’t working right. Looks like the quotation marks are messing it up.

  • Paul Lukas | October 19, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”158548″]Link to the Crush photo isn’t working right. Looks like the quotation marks are messing it up.[/quote]

    Fixed.

    As for the early pub times this week, I never said I wouldn’t publish earlier than 10:15 — I just said I wouldn’t public LATER than 10:15 (just as the old 9am deadline didn’t keep me from sometimes publishing at 7:30am). For various reasons not worth getting into here, earlier pub times were more convenient for me this week.

  • Brady | October 19, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    Those FSU unis are horrible. Wasn’t Rutgers supposed to be in black as well last night? Did someone at Rutgers read this blog and come to their senses?

  • Joey Guns | October 19, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    Anyone see the backwards Nike swoosh on Lebron James’ new sneaker? It looks very odd…..

    http://media.cnbc.co...

    Whole article about his new sneakers:

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • Gabe | October 19, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    BTW…Teebz: thanks for the photos and research on the goalie masks. It is very impressive, and sir I am in your debt. Now I’m curious what the new design is going to be, since his old one was very Cane-centric, but didn’t have that much to do with NC in general.

    On a more general note, does anyone know where goalies go to get their masks designed or actually drawn? I wonder if they come up with the concept for the design themselves and then have a shop do the actual development of it, or if they just leave it up to someone else with the direction “make it scary looking” or something like that.

  • Gabe | October 19, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”158551″][quote comment=”158548″]Link to the Crush photo isn’t working right. Looks like the quotation marks are messing it up.[/quote]

    Fixed.

    As for the early pub times this week, I never said I wouldn’t publish earlier than 10:15 — I just said I wouldn’t public LATER than 10:15 (just as the old 9am deadline didn’t keep me from sometimes publishing at 7:30am). For various reasons not worth getting into here, earlier pub times were more convenient for me this week.[/quote]

    Best. Blogger. Ever.

  • Gabe | October 19, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”158553″]Anyone see the backwards Nike swoosh on Lebron James’ new sneaker?

    It looks very odd…..

    http://media.cnbc.co...

    I don’t know that I would consider it backwards. If you think about it, the swoosh appears one way on one side of the sneaker, and the other way on the other side.

  • Jake Taylor | October 19, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.

  • Chris | October 19, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    Anyone else think it would have been cool if Sullivan had “7S” on his helmet, too?

  • Mike | October 19, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]

    Best use of a bullpen car…ever….

  • Stephen | October 19, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….

    You know, the New Orleans Saints used to have one of those football helmet cars. I was at the Superdome many years ago for a convention, and my brother and I were wandering around the place, and we found the car. I’ll have to see if I can find a picture, because I know we got my parents to take our picture sitting in it (my brother was a huge Saints fan)…

    ~E~

  • Kent | October 19, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    Did the Reds really have more stripes on their home uniform socks than on their road ones???

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Chris | October 19, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”158553″]Anyone see the backwards Nike swoosh on Lebron James’ new sneaker?

    It looks very odd…..

    http://media.cnbc.co...
    [/quote]

    Yeah, I don’t think the Lebron swoosh is backwards, either. It’s hard to tell in the pic, but is that the inside of the heel? If so, it isn’t backwards.
    But, Nike did put backward swoosh on the Air Darwin in the mid-90’s.

  • hott rodd | October 19, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense

  • josh's twin | October 19, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    Here’s a great bullpen car story. Goose Gossage’s first couple of weeks with the Yankees were less than stellar. When, following a couple of blown saves, the car pulled out of the bullpen to bring Goose in, Mickey Rivers jumped in front of it and pleaded with the driver not to.

  • Joe Drennan | October 19, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”158555″]BTW…Teebz: thanks for the photos and research on the goalie masks. It is very impressive, and sir I am in your debt. Now I’m curious what the new design is going to be, since his old one was very Cane-centric, but didn’t have that much to do with NC in general.

    On a more general note, does anyone know where goalies go to get their masks designed or actually drawn? I wonder if they come up with the concept for the design themselves and then have a shop do the actual development of it, or if they just leave it up to someone else with the direction “make it scary looking” or something like that.[/quote]
    As a goalie who has had a mask or two of my own painted I can offer soem insight.

    I myself have a bit of artistic talent so I’d sketch out my ideas, but also write out in detail what I had in mind.

    Here are links to just a few places that paint masks, the first being where I sent mine. They don’t however have my mask in their galler. Grrr.
    http://www.bkdesigns...
    http://www.miskadesi...
    http://www.bishopdes...
    http://www.eyecandya...

  • Paul Lukas | October 19, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.

  • seven | October 19, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    After getting out of the hockey business, Nike might be investing more money into soccer. Rumours that they want to take-over Umbro – http://money.cnn.com...

  • todd krevanchi | October 19, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    does anyone have access to a notre dame basketball photo archive? irish centers jim ross and jon ross had both first and last names on back in the early to mid 90s…

  • Chance | October 19, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    Get thee to Netflix, sir! Makes me nostalgic for old County Stadium….

    Thanks for the heads-up on that Press-Gazette gallery – I’m adding those Packers dusters to my website today.

  • Kevin | October 19, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote]

  • Chance | October 19, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    Get thee to Netflix, sir! Makes me nostalgic for old County Stadium….

    Thanks for the heads-up on that Press-Gazette gallery – I’m adding those beautiful dusters to the database today!

  • Kevin | October 19, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”158581″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote][/quote]

    That is just completly insane. Noone can own a trade mark on a word (ask Microsoft about Windows). Just because they “did it back in the day” doen’t mean they own the rights to it.

    As for goalie masks, there is a goalie in the minors, Terry Dunbar (who I think is in the CHL)designs his own helmets and paints them. He also does this for others. You can look at his work at his website.

  • Mike | October 19, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    Oh good lord…..

  • Jake Taylor | October 19, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″]At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]
    One of the best ways to spend 90 minutes.

    Don’t rent it, buy the “Wild Thing” edition with the alternate ending and all. You’ll find it with the astro turf cover at the store.

    Holy crap, you could do a week worth of columns on that movie. One of the most accurate sports movies of all time.

  • Randy Miller | October 19, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    IMDB lists several uniform glitches and errors in Major League — including “Yankees” players wearing the retired numbers 32 and 37.

  • hott rodd | October 19, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”158583″][quote comment=”158581″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote][/quote]

    That is just completly insane. Noone can own a trade mark on a word (ask Microsoft about Windows). Just because they “did it back in the day” doen’t mean they own the rights to it.

    As for goalie masks, there is a goalie in the minors, Terry Dunbar (who I think is in the CHL)designs his own helmets and paints them. He also does this for others. You can look at his work at his website.[/quote]

    Its not that they just hold the trademark on the word, they hold the trademark on the concept of a “White Out”, and not only did they do it “back in the day” they continued to do it when they moved to Phoenix and have kept the trademark current as necessary.

    Article on it here

  • The Ol Goaler | October 19, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    Regarding the Cardinals’ 1956 unis; They were an “innovation” from the mind of then-General Manager “Frantic” Frank Lane, according to the late Bob Broeg’s book, Redbirds: A Century of Cardinals Baseball (River City Publishers, 1988). Lane lasted two years with the club; owner “Gussie” Busch vetoed Lane’s attempt to trade Stan “The Man” Musial, and Lane left soon after.

    The Cardinals returned to a “Birds On The Bat” uniform in ’57… with the word “Cardinals” in script rather than separate letters. They’ve kept that basic logo ever since.

  • Kevin | October 19, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”158589″][quote comment=”158583″][quote comment=”158581″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote][/quote]

    That is just completly insane. Noone can own a trade mark on a word (ask Microsoft about Windows). Just because they “did it back in the day” doen’t mean they own the rights to it.

    As for goalie masks, there is a goalie in the minors, Terry Dunbar (who I think is in the CHL)designs his own helmets and paints them. He also does this for others. You can look at his work at his website.[/quote]

    Its not that they just hold the trademark on the word, they hold the trademark on the concept of a “White Out”, and not only did they do it “back in the day” they continued to do it when they moved to Phoenix and have kept the trademark current as necessary.

    Article on it here[/quote]

    I still call B.S. on that there should be more proof than them saying they have it.

  • Mike | October 19, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    To make sure I was not crazy I went back to the Caps website to check and sure enough, there it is:
    http://capitals.nhl....

  • Rich | October 19, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    Man those Miami airport shirts are hideous!, yet they’re so crazy looking I would actually buy (and wear!) those if I could…

  • Brian K. | October 19, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    Flipping through the TV last night, and when I got to the Utah vs. TCU game the first thing I notice is the officials were all using red whistles. Is this something that all MWC football officials are doing?

    The Rutgers vs. USF officials had standard black whistles.

    Sorry, no photos.

  • Arkbear | October 19, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    Arkansas Running Backs Darren McFadden and Felix Jones are running a poll to see which famous duo they should dress as for halloween. Details Here.

  • Brian from Short Island | October 19, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote]
    At this awful pregame marching band concert/ “pep rally” for the PSU/ND game, the MC even said “Who says only the Coyotes can do a white out?” None in the crowd got it.

  • Stuby | October 19, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”158540″]DeShawn Stevenson of the Wizards getting his name tattooed on his back, possibly adding a 2 to make it look like a jersey: link here[/quote]
    Any brave soul out there gonna go with a membership card depicting DeShawn Stevenson’s back?

  • hott rodd | October 19, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”158596″]Flipping through the TV last night, and when I got to the Utah vs. TCU game the first thing I notice is the officials were all using red whistles. Is this something that all MWC football officials are doing?

    The Rutgers vs. USF officials had standard black whistles.

    Sorry, no photos.[/quote]

    The Rutgers/USF Refs actually had Pink Whistles. Breast Cancer I think..

  • Smail | October 19, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”158596″]Flipping through the TV last night, and when I got to the Utah vs. TCU game the first thing I notice is the officials were all using red whistles. Is this something that all MWC football officials are doing?

    The Rutgers vs. USF officials had standard black whistles.

    Sorry, no photos.[/quote]

    One of the refs in the USF-Rutgers game had a hot pink whistle. Breast cancer awarenes? That’s I’ll I could imagine.

  • Johnny O | October 19, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”158587″][quote comment=”158577″]At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]
    One of the best ways to spend 90 minutes.

    Don’t rent it, buy the “Wild Thing” edition with the alternate ending and all. You’ll find it with the astro turf cover at the store.

    Holy crap, you could do a week worth of columns on that movie. One of the most accurate sports movies of all time.[/quote]
    Here ya go Paul. This is what we are all talking about. Bullpen car Jake Taylor drives in Major League

    And I totally agree it is one of the best sports movies ever. It gave me chills being at Miller Park this year when the Tribe played a few “home games” and heard “Wild Thing” blast over the speakers.

  • Alan #44 | October 19, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]
    Run….dont walk…and go get it! Besides the uni stuff, it is absolutely tremendous!

  • JoeS | October 19, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    I just got around to reading Paul’s page two article about bullpen cars. Was it free hat day or something at this Mariners game?

  • Chance | October 19, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”158593″][quote comment=”158589″][quote comment=”158583″][quote comment=”158581″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote][/quote]

    That is just completly insane. Noone can own a trade mark on a word (ask Microsoft about Windows). Just because they “did it back in the day” doen’t mean they own the rights to it.
    [/quote]

    Its not that they just hold the trademark on the word, they hold the trademark on the concept of a “White Out”, and not only did they do it “back in the day” they continued to do it when they moved to Phoenix and have kept the trademark current as necessary.

    Article on it here[/quote]

    I still call B.S. on that there should be more proof than them saying they have it.[/quote]

    Read the entire article – that the Coyotes own the trademark is not in question. Penn State went so far as to register “Penn State White Out” as a complete trademark, to separate themselves from the mark owned by the Coyotes.

  • Kris McInnis | October 19, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”158563″]Anyone else think it would have been cool if Sullivan had “7S” on his helmet, too?[/quote]

    No. Pat Sullivan with only a number on his helmet looks too unsettling to begin with.

  • jesse | October 19, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote]

    I think its confusing to everyone since the team that actually had a “white out” (The Winnipeg Jets) did it once, in… wait for it… 1988. Then ceased to exist. The Pheonix Coyotees are a bunch of scum bags, I hope Gretzky’s Wife gambles away another couple of million dollars. Assholes.

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”158612″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote]

    I think its confusing to everyone since the team that actually had a “white out” (The Winnipeg Jets) did it once, in… wait for it… 1988. Then ceased to exist. The Pheonix Coyotees are a bunch of scum bags, I hope Gretzky’s Wife gambles away another couple of million dollars. Assholes.[/quote]

    Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.

    In fact, during the heady days of the 90s, Vancouver’s “Towel Power” vs. Winnipeg’s “White Out” took on a life of its own, and was bigger than the game in their respective local media circles.

  • F.Commisso | October 19, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    With Joe Torre out of the Yankee organization and the Yankees not having names on home or away, when (if) Joe takes another job this will be the first time we will see “TORRE” on a jersey in 12 years.
    In last night’s Game 5, there was a shot of Beckett on the bench with his dugout jacket pulled up on his right arm only, it read “BOS” the “TON” was finished off by the left side of his jersey. I wish I got a screen shot to show you all exactly what I’m writing about..

  • hott rodd | October 19, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”158615″][quote comment=”158612″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote]

    I think its confusing to everyone since the team that actually had a “white out” (The Winnipeg Jets) did it once, in… wait for it… 1988. Then ceased to exist. The Pheonix Coyotees are a bunch of scum bags, I hope Gretzky’s Wife gambles away another couple of million dollars. Assholes.[/quote]

    Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.

    In fact, during the heady days of the 90s, Vancouver’s “Towel Power” vs. Winnipeg’s “White Out” took on a life of its own, and was bigger than the game in their respective local media circles.[/quote]

    And the Coyotes continue it to this day.. (well when the make the playoffs anyway)

  • The Original Lee | October 19, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    not to be overly picky but the ref’s “beret” in the packers pick at the end of the ticker looks much more like a flat cap.

  • R. J. | October 19, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    Somebody asked the other day (last week?) who the first NHL team was to wear colored gloves. I thought it was the Rangers and indeed it was. They started in 1957-58 with the Leafs following the next season. Chicago, Boston and Montreal all switched to colored gloves before expansion in 1967-68 (when exactly I’m unsure) while Detroit carried on until at least 1966-67 with plain old brown leather gloves.

    Of course a related question could be when did goalies start using colored pads? I’d guess mid-1980s

  • Ray | October 19, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”158603″][quote comment=”158587″][quote comment=”158577″]At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]
    One of the best ways to spend 90 minutes.

    Don’t rent it, buy the “Wild Thing” edition with the alternate ending and all. You’ll find it with the astro turf cover at the store.

    Holy crap, you could do a week worth of columns on that movie. One of the most accurate sports movies of all time.[/quote]
    Here ya go Paul. This is what we are all talking about. Bullpen car Jake Taylor drives in Major League

    And I totally agree it is one of the best sports movies ever. It gave me chills being at Miller Park this year when the Tribe played a few “home games” and heard “Wild Thing” blast over the speakers.[/quote]

    Agreed — ML is a classic. Def a must see!

    Paul — here’s a sit I found when looking for a pic of the Bull Pen Car from the movie…
    http://bullpencar.bl...

    I don’t know if you mentioned it in your ESPN column or not but it’s fun to read.

  • steve | October 19, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    yea penn state fans dont get it. they just think they are the first ever team to ever have fans dress in the same color and everyone else that does it copies penn state even though fans have been doing it for a long time.

  • Philly Bill | October 19, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.

  • DenverGregg | October 19, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    If you haven’t looked at the Miami airport uniform, you owe it to yourself. Best laugh I’ve had in a while.

    Too bad the Miami airport uniform poll doesn’t allow the answer “both a and b”.

    A bit surprised to see a “kerfuffle” here, but this site truly is among Best of the Web Today.

  • Broker75 | October 19, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”158621″]Somebody asked the other day (last week?) who the first NHL team was to wear colored gloves. I thought it was the Rangers and indeed it was. They started in 1957-58 with the Leafs following the next season. Chicago, Boston and Montreal all switched to colored gloves before expansion in 1967-68 (when exactly I’m unsure) while Detroit carried on until at least 1966-67 with plain old brown leather gloves.

    Of course a related question could be when did goalies start using colored pads? I’d guess mid-1980s[/quote]
    Grant Fuhr of the Edmonton Oilers was the first goalie to wear colored pads. I don’t know the exact year, I do know it was in the Oiler dynasty of the 80’s.

  • duckstyle187 | October 19, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    For get the awesome bullpen car scene, dman near every player has perfectly placed stirrups on. Paul, I’m ashamed, that’s sports/guy movie gospel right there.

  • duckstyle187 | October 19, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    For get the awesome bullpen car scene, dman near every player has perfectly placed stirrups on. Paul, I’m ashamed, that’s sports/guy movie gospel right there. “I don’t know what league you played in last year. But, we wear caps and sleeves, son.” Classic.

  • Ray | October 19, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”158603″][quote comment=”158587″][quote comment=”158577″]At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]
    One of the best ways to spend 90 minutes.

    Don’t rent it, buy the “Wild Thing” edition with the alternate ending and all. You’ll find it with the astro turf cover at the store.

    Holy crap, you could do a week worth of columns on that movie. One of the most accurate sports movies of all time.[/quote]
    Here ya go Paul. This is what we are all talking about. Bullpen car Jake Taylor drives in Major League

    And I totally agree it is one of the best sports movies ever. It gave me chills being at Miller Park this year when the Tribe played a few “home games” and heard “Wild Thing” blast over the speakers.[/quote]

    Most definitley, Major League is a classic!

    Thanks for finding the pic of the movie bullpen car.

    Paul — I really liked the ESPN piece on bulpen cars. You oughta look at this site, fun stuff about bullpen cars..
    http://bullpencar.bl...

  • Ray | October 19, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    My post got killed twice. I give up

  • Russ | October 19, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    Isn’t that kind of hat called a Tam o’shanter?

  • RS Rogers | October 19, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    I don’t recall seeing this covered before this year, but watching the end of last night’s ALCS game five, Red Sox closer Papelbon was wearing a cap with a gray undervisor. The snug fit of the cap made it look like a well-worn (and shrunk-to-the-head) wool 5950, not a new synthetic 5950. Just wondering whether Papelbon is still wearing last year’s cap, or whether he had a gray undervisor put on this year’s cap, and in either event if he’s said anything in the local press about why he’s done so.

  • DrBear | October 19, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    Another “uniform coverage of the past” from a book I have on the history of The Sporting News (sorry, no scanner available) showing a front page from 1945 with the Cubs in their vest uniforms and bearing the beautiful headline: Cubs Give A Heave To Their No-Sleeve Peeve” reporting how players were happy to dump the vests. I’d bet TSN back in its all-baseball days was great for uniform tidbits.

  • BCrisp | October 19, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]
    Next he’ll be telling us he’s never seen Bull Durham of Field of Dreams. What is world coming to? Major League is hilarious, highly quotable, full of great baseball scenes and jokes, and has some great uniforms.
    Wild Thing!

  • Chance | October 19, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.[/quote]

    It’s properly called a flat cap, but is also known as a “cabbie cap,” “driving cap” and many other names.

  • Pat | October 19, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.[/quote]

    It’s a scally cap, or flat cap.

  • Rick | October 19, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”158632″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    For get the awesome bullpen car scene, dman near every player has perfectly placed stirrups on. Paul, I’m ashamed, that’s sports/guy movie gospel right there. “I don’t know what league you played in last year. But, we wear caps and sleeves, son.” Classic.[/quote]

    a uni-related Major League quote, for Paul:

    Jake Taylor: I play for the Indians.

    Chaire Holloway: Here in Cleveland? I didn’t know they still had a team!

    Jake Taylor: Yup, we’ve got uniforms and everything, it’s really great!

  • Anthony Verna | October 19, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”158600″][quote comment=”158540″]DeShawn Stevenson of the Wizards getting his name tattooed on his back, possibly adding a 2 to make it look like a jersey: link here[/quote]
    Any brave soul out there gonna go with a membership card depicting DeShawn Stevenson’s back?[/quote]

    Ow. Nope.

  • Jason Axel | October 19, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle

  • possum | October 19, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”158583″][quote comment=”158581″][quote comment=”158570″][quote comment=”158543″]Tomorrow night (Saturday)he Capitals will be having thier “White Out” night against the Penguins. Fans are being asked to wear white as the players will be playing in their Away white jerseys.[/quote]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    Its intriguing that a team in their own league would commit such a blatant offense[/quote][/quote]

    That is just completly insane. Noone can own a trade mark on a word (ask Microsoft about Windows). Just because they “did it back in the day” doen’t mean they own the rights to it.

    As for goalie masks, there is a goalie in the minors, Terry Dunbar (who I think is in the CHL)designs his own helmets and paints them. He also does this for others. You can look at his work at his website.[/quote]
    I think I speak for everything decent when I say his Big Lebowski art is spectacular. Thanks for sharing this, the Killer Bees mask that says Lindsay on the chin was used here in Charlotte last year. Neat to know that Evan Lindsay had it painted by a fellow keeper.

  • Stuby | October 19, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”158642″][quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.[/quote]

    It’s properly called a flat cap, but is also known as a “cabbie cap,” “driving cap” and many other names.[/quote]
    My older brother always called that kind of hat a “Snipe”, so that’s how I’ve always referred to them.

  • Neil | October 19, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    This short AP item is of particular interest, because it refers to the uniforms that the Cardinals unveiled in this photo. As you may recall, the road jersey shown in that shot — the one with the “St. L.” insignia — was never used, and the circumstances surrounding it have never been fully explained.

    A St. Louis team abandoning a jersey? You don’t say.

    Also, you guys are hurtin’ a former Winnipegger by bringing up the White Out memories. The Coyotes could definitely stand to bring some of that emotion back, the game against the Oilers last night sounded lke it was coming from a library.

  • Chad G | October 19, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”158624″]yea penn state fans dont get it. they just think they are the first ever team to ever have fans dress in the same color and everyone else that does it copies penn state even though fans have been doing it for a long time.[/quote]

    I don’t think in anyway shape or form or have heard for that matter that Penn State fans think they are the first to do this. The white outs started in 2003 or 2004, but they didn’t really catch any steam till 2005 when the team was good. Plus it was showcased that year with the night game against ohio state. I know Michigan fans have worn yellow for a long time but that stadium sucks even though it has the largest capacity in the nation.

    I think Penn States white out gets a lot of exposure becuase the fans have actully embraced it and everybody is actually wearing white. The don’t provide the fans shirts or anything like the Miami Heat did.

  • al | October 19, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    cool little thing with the PSU white out is the creation of an “S” … negative space?

    here are a couple pics:
    http://www.flickr.co...

    http://www.flickr.co...

    here is a pic showing what it used to look like (student section?)

  • Philly Bill | October 19, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”158642″][quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.[/quote]

    It’s properly called a flat cap, but is also known as a “cabbie cap,” “driving cap” and many other names.[/quote]

    Thanks for the info! Called a “foreskin cap” in Western Canada?!? Anyone here ever heard that before?

  • al | October 19, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    sorry …
    here is what it used to look like (the student section only?)

    http://www.oldmainfr...

    when you look at the ones with the whole stadium, you can tell there are some without the all white look, but the student are a complete “WHITE OUT”

  • MJ | October 19, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote]
    JJJJJUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT a bit outside!

  • al | October 19, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    Sea of Red also looks pretty cool:

    Camp Randall sea of red: http://www.flickr.co...

    also in nebraska:
    http://www.asinine.o...

    and calgary’s:
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Eric B. | October 19, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    Great piece on the bullpen cars. Back in 2004, the family and I went to the annual Hollywood Stars softball game at Dodger Stadium and they resurrected the team’s bullpen cart for a stunt in which they brought in a super-secret surprise relief pitcher. The cart made a circuit of the field as salsa music blared from the stadium PA, then when it finally reached the mound, out popped Jose Lima in full “Lima Time” mode, dancing with the starlets and pitching to a couple of batters. Certainly fired up the crowd.

  • Joe Drennan | October 19, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”158621″]Somebody asked the other day (last week?) who the first NHL team was to wear colored gloves. I thought it was the Rangers and indeed it was. They started in 1957-58 with the Leafs following the next season. Chicago, Boston and Montreal all switched to colored gloves before expansion in 1967-68 (when exactly I’m unsure) while Detroit carried on until at least 1966-67 with plain old brown leather gloves.

    Of course a related question could be when did goalies start using colored pads? I’d guess mid-1980s[/quote]
    I don’t have specifics or names, but I do know it was the early to mid 1980s that color started showing up on goalies. Goalie equipment used to be leather and the pads were filled with deer heair. They got plenty heavy by the end of a game after they were soaked from the ice.

    A Blackhawks goalie, and as a Hawks fan I am ashamed to say I can’t think of his name (in my defense I was only a little kid at the time) wore pads made by Aeroflow (SP?) pads that were the first synthetic pads as they used fabric on the outside, and foam and other materials for padding. This led to the different colors, then the designs started coming down the line in the mid to late 90s. The pads I wore even 4 years ago are nothing like the ones on the market today. It’s amazing how far goalie pads have come in 25 years.

  • Quint | October 19, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”158664″][quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote]
    JJJJJUUUUSSSSSTTTTTT a bit outside![/quote]
    Even better is Harry Doyle’s broadcast partner, who’s name I don’t remember and am too lazy to look up, after Doyle gets drunk and passes out (in Major League 2, I think):

    “Fly ball…caught.”

  • Shane | October 19, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”158638″]I don’t recall seeing this covered before this year, but watching the end of last night’s ALCS game five, Red Sox closer Papelbon was wearing a cap with a gray undervisor. The snug fit of the cap made it look like a well-worn (and shrunk-to-the-head) wool 5950, not a new synthetic 5950. Just wondering whether Papelbon is still wearing last year’s cap, or whether he had a gray undervisor put on this year’s cap, and in either event if he’s said anything in the local press about why he’s done so.[/quote]

    He is wearing last year’s, but there was an interview with him on NESN maybe a week ago where he had this year’s on. Intereeeeeeesting.

    Also, what’s this ‘flat cap’ nonsense? It’s a scally cap.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 19, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote]

    I liked (didn’t love) Major League, disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”

  • Brian K. | October 19, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”158596″]Flipping through the TV last night, and when I got to the Utah vs. TCU game the first thing I notice is the officials were all using red whistles. Is this something that all MWC football officials are doing?

    The Rutgers vs. USF officials had standard black whistles.

    Sorry, no photos.[/quote]
    UniWatch readers do not dissapoint! Those in fact were pink whistles, and many of the major conference football officials are wearing them this month as October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 19, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    …and for all you movie-trivia buffs, the name “Harry Doyle” was used for a main character, played by a legendary actor, in another (completely unrelated) film three years earlier. Anybody remember the film, and the actor?
    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote]

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 19, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Let’s try this again…

    [quote comment=”158676″][quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote][/quote]

    …and for all you movie-trivia buffs, the name “Harry Doyle” was used for a main character, played by a legendary actor, in another (completely unrelated) film three years earlier. Anybody remember the film, and the actor?

  • E Ro | October 19, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”158665″]Sea of Red also looks pretty cool:

    Camp Randall sea of red: http://www.flickr.co...

    also in nebraska:
    http://www.asinine.o...

    and calgary’s:
    http://www.flickr.co...

    yes the calgary sea of red looks cool until i remember that their colors should be orange.

  • Jake Taylor | October 19, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.

  • Patrick | October 19, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    The Phoenix Coyotes actually do have the word “Whiteout” trademarked. http://tess2.uspto.g...

    I can recall the red Wings-Jets playoff games in Winnipeg in 1996(?) before they moved to Phoenix. The entire arena was white! I loved it!

  • john | October 19, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”158574″][quote comment=”158555″]BTW…Teebz: thanks for the photos and research on the goalie masks. It is very impressive, and sir I am in your debt. Now I’m curious what the new design is going to be, since his old one was very Cane-centric, but didn’t have that much to do with NC in general.

    On a more general note, does anyone know where goalies go to get their masks designed or actually drawn? I wonder if they come up with the concept for the design themselves and then have a shop do the actual development of it, or if they just leave it up to someone else with the direction “make it scary looking” or something like that.[/quote]
    As a goalie who has had a mask or two of my own painted I can offer soem insight.

    I myself have a bit of artistic talent so I’d sketch out my ideas, but also write out in detail what I had in mind.

    Here are links to just a few places that paint masks, the first being where I sent mine. They don’t however have my mask in their galler. Grrr.
    http://www.bkdesigns...
    http://www.miskadesi...
    http://www.bishopdes...
    http://www.eyecandya...

    As far as input, goalies like Tomas Vokoun and Miika Kiprusoff leave the design up to the artist of their choosing. Roberto Luongo and Rick DiPietro were in constant communication with their designers to get the right image.

  • Pat | October 19, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”158660″]cool little thing with the PSU white out is the creation of an “S” … negative space?

    here are a couple pics:
    http://www.flickr.co...

    http://www.flickr.co...

    here is a pic showing what it used to look like (student section?)[/quote]

    Positive space.

  • Johnny O | October 19, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”158665″]Sea of Red also looks pretty cool:

    Camp Randall sea of red: http://www.flickr.co...

    also in nebraska:
    http://www.asinine.o...

    and calgary’s:
    http://www.flickr.co...
    The Sea of Red in Madison is pretty cool. Especially with the slow motion wave which is done to perfection every game.

    Sea of Red in Sconnie

  • BCrisp | October 19, 2007 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”158680″][quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.[/quote]
    That’s got to be one of the worst edited for TV movies. It is so bad that it adds another layer of comedy.

  • Perry | October 19, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.[/quote]

    They’re called flat caps in Britain, where they’re commonly associated with working class men. Think Andy Capp.

  • Robert | October 19, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”158639″]Another “uniform coverage of the past” from a book I have on the history of The Sporting News (sorry, no scanner available) showing a front page from 1945 with the Cubs in their vest uniforms and bearing the beautiful headline: Cubs Give A Heave To Their No-Sleeve Peeve” reporting how players were happy to dump the vests. I’d bet TSN back in its all-baseball days was great for uniform tidbits.[/quote]

    It is wrong to tease us with this. Get thee to a scannery.

  • MikeB | October 19, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”158688″][quote comment=”158680″][quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.[/quote]
    That’s got to be one of the worst edited for TV movies. It is so bad that it adds another layer of comedy.[/quote]

    “Who are these flaky guys?” has become part of my everyday conversations.

  • Ryan Hare | October 19, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    Are all of these the slim-fit style basketball jerseys by nike? Did anyone post the Maryland gold, or Florida state spear logo up the side of the ‘noles jersey?

    Heres the Link for a mess of them

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    And I missed it on the first read, but you’re welcome, Gabe. :o)

  • Philly Bill | October 19, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”158690″][quote comment=”158639″]Another “uniform coverage of the past” from a book I have on the history of The Sporting News (sorry, no scanner available) showing a front page from 1945 with the Cubs in their vest uniforms and bearing the beautiful headline: Cubs Give A Heave To Their No-Sleeve Peeve” reporting how players were happy to dump the vests. I’d bet TSN back in its all-baseball days was great for uniform tidbits.[/quote]

    It is wrong to tease us with this. Get thee to a scannery.[/quote]

    Beauty, eh. I think I’m going to copy that line onto the whiteboard in my office.

  • Mike | October 19, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    Today’s DCist photo of the day…..
    http://dcist.com/200...

    “Dr. Seuss socks…” nice

  • Bob | October 19, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    Anyone know how they coordiante that S at Penn State? The same students know to wear blue every time? No matter how they do it, it looks great.

  • RaoulDuke | October 19, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”158688″][quote comment=”158680″][quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.[/quote]
    That’s got to be one of the worst edited for TV movies. It is so bad that it adds another layer of comedy.[/quote]

    The cut version of Slapshot is like this too. “Ned, how you say échange in english?” “Trade me right (silence) now”. Doesnt have quite the same charm as its original version.

  • Breezy | October 19, 2007 at 1:33 pm |

    I think I have changed my mind on those faux stirrups….
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • FCForrest | October 19, 2007 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”158638″]I don’t recall seeing this covered before this year, but watching the end of last night’s ALCS game five, Red Sox closer Papelbon was wearing a cap with a gray undervisor. The snug fit of the cap made it look like a well-worn (and shrunk-to-the-head) wool 5950, not a new synthetic 5950. Just wondering whether Papelbon is still wearing last year’s cap, or whether he had a gray undervisor put on this year’s cap, and in either event if he’s said anything in the local press about why he’s done so.[/quote]

    Mike Timlin’s cap is also from a previous year. Maybe last year, but could be even older, given the amount of wear and tear.

  • dm00n | October 19, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    I thought Peter Tork’s mother owned it.

  • bmarlowe | October 19, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”158639″]Another “uniform coverage of the past” from a book I have on the history of The Sporting News (sorry, no scanner available) showing a front page from 1945 with the Cubs in their vest uniforms and bearing the beautiful headline: Cubs Give A Heave To Their No-Sleeve Peeve” reporting how players were happy to dump the vests. I’d bet TSN back in its all-baseball days was great for uniform tidbits.[/quote]

    —-

    Do you have a date for that?

  • MLB2PDX | October 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”158693″]Are all of these the slim-fit style basketball jerseys by nike? Did anyone post the Maryland gold, or Florida state spear logo up the side of the ‘noles jersey?

    Heres the Link for a mess of them[/quote]

    So scrolling down I see three Oregon unis…but none of them are green. PLEASE do not tell me that they completely replaced the green with black (and a little green)? They try to be SO original all the time…but then use black? Sigh.

    [quote comment=”158702″]I think I have changed my mind on those faux stirrups….
    http://www.flickr.co...

    My girlfriend bought a pair of those, but yellow, to wear for soccer. She’s French, so she had no idea what they were. Only that they were colorful and had stripes, both of which she likes. I told her they were the dumbest thing ever created and they look horrible. On dudes. Yeah, with the ladies, I think I’m ok with any sock if it’s knee high. ;-)

  • Chris A | October 19, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    Random thought:

    I caught a glance Wednesday night of the Stars/Blue Jackets game, and they had a shot of Brandon Morrow on the bench, and between shifts hockey players generally get into the “bench hunch”, where they rest their elbows on their thighs and lean forward to see the ice. Well, as Morrow did this, the jersey caved to the point where his number and Captain’s “C” made him look like an airplane seat (10C).

    There’s no screen grab or anything but I’m not too keen on this ‘number-in-the-front’ thing.

  • Chad G | October 19, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”158700″]Anyone know how they coordiante that S at Penn State? The same students know to wear blue every time? No matter how they do it, it looks great.[/quote]

    There is a group called the Lion Ambassadors (they are the tour guides for students looking at the university) they hand out shirts for that section at every game. They have an S-Zone logo on the front and are sponsored. Last one I got was by Aeropostal.

  • GCap | October 19, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”158700″]Anyone know how they coordiante that S at Penn State? The same students know to wear blue every time? No matter how they do it, it looks great.[/quote]

    im a sophomore undergrad at penn state, a student group runs it, i think the Blue and White Society, but the same people don’t sit there every game, it’s just that if you sit in that area, they’ll give you a tshirt and it ends up making that S. at the blue-white game in april, they did a VT for va tech since it was right after the shootings

  • DenverGregg | October 19, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    Some info on the upcoming Rays’ uni unveiling: here.

  • GCap | October 19, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    or its the lion ambassadors haha, sorry about that

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 19, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”158689″][quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    [quote comment=”158542″]I don’t think the ref is wearing a beret in that picture; more like a flat or “pancake” cap.[/quote]

    http://cmsimg.packer...

    Agreed, it’s not a beret. But if anyone knows what this type of hat is called, please reply. Rich Ashburn (at left here with Andy Musser, Harry Kalas, and former PR flak Chris Wheeler) always wore one of those hats during his broadcasting career.[/quote]

    They’re called flat caps in Britain, where they’re commonly associated with working class men. Think Andy Capp.[/quote]

    I had always heard them called “Gatsby Caps”.

    I don’t know why, but my granddad always called ’em “Go to Hell Hats”. :)

  • Mark in Shiga | October 19, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    The king of sanitized movies is Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. I’d watch the G-rated version over the original!

    And uniform buffs will like seeing the 1983 Atlanta Braves in their powder blue when Ferris and friends go to Wrigley Field. “What’s the score?” – “Nothing-nothing.” – “Who’s winning?” – “The Bears.”

  • Jeff I. | October 19, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    Went to the Bruins opener last night. I was so impressed to see all of the minutiae in and around the Garden changed to reflect their new logo. I know it’s expected, but the subtlety of the change had me worried that the wouldn’t bother to update new details. I was wrong, everything from the ice, to the placards near the concession stand, to the towels they handed out to fans.

    plus they looked wicked good as well.

  • C W | October 19, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    White outs? If the fans are going to dress in colors, at least make it interesting.

  • C W | October 19, 2007 at 2:30 pm |
  • possum | October 19, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”158688″][quote comment=”158680″][quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.[/quote]
    That’s got to be one of the worst edited for TV movies. It is so bad that it adds another layer of comedy.[/quote]
    Watch the Big Lebowski on TV. “He peed on your ‘valued’ rug.”

  • Ben | October 19, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    Best Reason NOT to Have Bullpen Carts?
    Manny Ramirez and Kevin Millar.

  • mike | October 19, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”158725″]White outs? If the fans are going to dress in colors, at least make it interesting.

    [/quote]

    They did do a Red Day for opening night……the White Out also includes a white rally towel.

    This will probably be the only time many of the fans will get to see the whites in action…live.

  • Shane | October 19, 2007 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”158729″]Best Reason NOT to Have Bullpen Carts?
    Manny Ramirez and Kevin Millar.[/quote]

    Best reason TO have bullpen carts, man.

  • Brandon Davis | October 19, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    I was looking at the link on eBay and noticed that there’s a World Series trophy up for auction. Can anybody explain why the city for some teams is set in all Caps while some names are set in traditional names?

  • Kevin | October 19, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”158735″]I was looking at the link on eBay and noticed that there’s a World Series trophy up for auction. Can anybody explain why the city for some teams is set in all Caps while some names are set in traditional names?[/quote]

    My guess would be to fit the names on the the pennants. Better yet why is the throphy up for auction?

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”158735″]I was looking at the link on eBay and noticed that there’s a World Series trophy up for auction. Can anybody explain why the city for some teams is set in all Caps while some names are set in traditional names?[/quote]

    Plain and simple… city name length. It’s only the city’s who are in lower-case, and the ones that have have names that wouldn’t fit if they are in upper-case lettering.

  • Matthew S. | October 19, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”158727″][quote comment=”158688″][quote comment=”158680″][quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.[/quote]
    That’s got to be one of the worst edited for TV movies. It is so bad that it adds another layer of comedy.[/quote]
    Watch the Big Lebowski on TV. “He peed on your ‘valued’ rug.”[/quote]

    And “This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps, Larry!”

    It loses a little I think….

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    cities’ names… one mistake, and one omitted word. I think it’s nap time.

  • jesse | October 19, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”158718″][quote comment=”158689″][quote comment=”158625″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    Good for them, do they still do it while they watch the Phoenix Coyotes on TV? Who cares how many times they did it? The Winnipeg Jets don’t exist anymore. Dead teams don’t have traditions. Phoenix is just sitting on the mark trying to get Penn State to buy it off them.

    Second, it’s a bullshit mark to begin with; Winnipeg, is the name of a town, which cannot be trademarked, white out is both a commercially available product (which trademark is properly owned), and a description of a weather event.

    Third, there is zero likelihood of confusion between the tradition of a hockey team that doesn’t exist anymore, and a college football team that does. How can you confuse Winnipeg with Penn State?

    Finally, the Coyotes have every right to protect “their” mark, and I have every right to say it’s a bunch of bullshit, which it is. I tell clients this every day; just because its your right, doesn’t mean its right™.

  • Rick | October 19, 2007 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”158677″]Let’s try this again…

    [quote comment=”158676″][quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote][/quote]

    …and for all you movie-trivia buffs, the name “Harry Doyle” was used for a main character, played by a legendary actor, in another (completely unrelated) film three years earlier. Anybody remember the film, and the actor?[/quote]

    1986 – Tough Guys – Burt Lancaster

    http://www.imdb.com/...

  • dm00n | October 19, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    Yesterday someone mentioned a jersey tearing during a fight between a Red Wing and a Shark.

    The best I have been able to find is this picture of the fight between Aaron Downey and Kyle McLaren. It looks as if the jersey on Downey (the Red Wing) is tearing along the seam at the top of the left shoulder, above the D in his name.

    mlive.com says:

    In Aaron Downey’s case, the fight was literal as he tangled with Kyle McLaren early in the third period–and had his $350 Reebok Edge jersey torn in the process.

  • dm00n | October 19, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    (of course that could just be a fold, there have to be better pictures somewhere)

  • tc | October 19, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”158727″][quote comment=”158688″][quote comment=”158680″][quote comment=”158673″] disliked its sequels, although the second one contained the best Harry Doyle line, and possibly my all-time favorite baseball movie quote:

    “Here’s the pitch…[whack]…aww shit…”[/quote]
    Yeah… Major League 2 is like Caddyshack 2.

    Major League 3… Jesus, why?

    Parts 2 and 3 were rated PG, thus making them useless as real sports movies. Even the poorly dubbed out version of Major League on cable is fantastic. The end when Dorn tells Vaughn to “Strike this..guy(in totally different voice)..er out” is classic.

    The “er” is still left from “mother fucker”. That alone makes it that they couldn’t even get all of the dubbed phrase out.[/quote]
    That’s got to be one of the worst edited for TV movies. It is so bad that it adds another layer of comedy.[/quote]
    Watch the Big Lebowski on TV. “He peed on your ‘valued’ rug.”[/quote]

    Anybody remember Pallies from Mr. Show?

  • Timmer | October 19, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    Question on one of the pics that Paul posted in the bullpen cart article…was it free cap day or something? Or did they used to only have one style of cap…and EVERYONE that went to the ballgames had one?

  • dm00n | October 19, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    By the way, I was watching Inside the NFL the other day on HBO and, at some point on Sunday, Clinton Portis’ pants tore along the bottom of one of his thigh pads. The exposed pad stood out because the ‘skins were wearing the dark pants.

  • GoTerriers | October 19, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”158704″]

    Thats interesting considering the Coyotes hold the trade mark on “White Out” going back to their Winnipeg days, and are currently involved with trying to get Penn State to stop using the term after granting them a one time exception last year.

    I thought Peter Tork’s mother owned it.[/quote]

    Thanks Mike Nesmith . . .get your Monkees straight!
    : )

  • Richard from MA | October 19, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    RE: #105/White Out/Wite-Out

    Michael Nesmith‘s mother apparently invented Liquid Paper.

  • Richard from MA | October 19, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    Sorry about being redundant there…

  • jeff in detroit | October 19, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”158757″]Yesterday someone mentioned a jersey tearing during a fight between a Red Wing and a Shark.

    The best I have been able to find is this picture of the fight between Aaron Downey and Kyle McLaren. It looks as if the jersey on Downey (the Red Wing) is tearing along the seam at the top of the left shoulder, above the D in his name.

    mlive.com says:

    In Aaron Downey’s case, the fight was literal as he tangled with Kyle McLaren early in the third period–and had his $350 Reebok Edge jersey torn in the process.

    [/quote]

    that was the fight that i mentioned last night. if anyone can get a screenshot from downey sitting in the penalty box is when the best picture would be.

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    Good for them, do they still do it while they watch the Phoenix Coyotes on TV? Who cares how many times they did it? The Winnipeg Jets don’t exist anymore. Dead teams don’t have traditions. Phoenix is just sitting on the mark trying to get Penn State to buy it off them.

    Second, it’s a bullshit mark to begin with; Winnipeg, is the name of a town, which cannot be trademarked, white out is both a commercially available product (which trademark is properly owned), and a description of a weather event.

    Third, there is zero likelihood of confusion between the tradition of a hockey team that doesn’t exist anymore, and a college football team that does. How can you confuse Winnipeg with Penn State?

    Finally, the Coyotes have every right to protect “their” mark, and I have every right to say it’s a bunch of bullshit, which it is. I tell clients this every day; just because its your right, doesn’t mean its right™.[/quote]

    Oh ye of little faith…

    The Jets’ franchise still does exist, albeit technically. The Phoenix Coyotes own the rights to the Jets’ history. The Coyotes do own the term “White Out” according to the laws of the trademark ruling they applied for and received.

    Therefore, Penn State would have to pay the Coyotes a fee for the use of the term “White Out”. If you don’t like the law, go to law school and amend the law.

    The Phoenix Coyotes own the rights to all things involving the Jets, including the “Winnipeg White Out” slogan.

    It’s like saying that if Coke bought Pepsi, Coke wouldn’t be able to use the “Choice of a New Generation” slogan used by Diet Pepsi. They bought all the intellectual property and trademarks that went along with the Pepsi brand, and that includes trademarked slogans and phrases.

    The problem with your argument is that you need to do the homework on it first. The “White Out” phrase was trademarked by the Jets before they moved to Phoenix, and the Coyotes franchise has updated the trademark on the phrase as often as they have needed to. It was truly a Jets-only motto until the ‘Yotes starting clamping down on every promotion that tried to capitalize off of it since they own the phrase.

    As for your “your right vs. it’s right” argument, if you went out to make money off the “Just Do It” motto, I guarantee you’d have Nike all over you ass for stealing their property. You CANNOT steal a trademarked idea for any reason whatsoever. Whether or not anyone confuses Winnipeg with Penn State is irrelevant.

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    To fix my own quoting problem (dammit):

    [quote comment=”158773″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    Good for them, do they still do it while they watch the Phoenix Coyotes on TV? Who cares how many times they did it? The Winnipeg Jets don’t exist anymore. Dead teams don’t have traditions. Phoenix is just sitting on the mark trying to get Penn State to buy it off them.

    Second, it’s a bullshit mark to begin with; Winnipeg, is the name of a town, which cannot be trademarked, white out is both a commercially available product (which trademark is properly owned), and a description of a weather event.

    Third, there is zero likelihood of confusion between the tradition of a hockey team that doesn’t exist anymore, and a college football team that does. How can you confuse Winnipeg with Penn State?

    Finally, the Coyotes have every right to protect “their” mark, and I have every right to say it’s a bunch of bullshit, which it is. I tell clients this every day; just because its your right, doesn’t mean its right™.[/quote][/quote]

    Oh ye of little faith…

    The Jets’ franchise still does exist, albeit technically. The Phoenix Coyotes own the rights to the Jets’ history. The Coyotes do own the term “White Out” according to the laws of the trademark ruling they applied for and received.

    Therefore, Penn State would have to pay the Coyotes a fee for the use of the term “White Out”. If you don’t like the law, go to law school and amend the law.

    The Phoenix Coyotes own the rights to all things involving the Jets, including the “Winnipeg White Out” slogan.

    It’s like saying that if Coke bought Pepsi, Coke wouldn’t be able to use the “Choice of a New Generation” slogan used by Diet Pepsi. They bought all the intellectual property and trademarks that went along with the Pepsi brand, and that includes trademarked slogans and phrases.

    The problem with your argument is that you need to do the homework on it first. The “White Out” phrase was trademarked by the Jets before they moved to Phoenix, and the Coyotes franchise has updated the trademark on the phrase as often as they have needed to. It was truly a Jets-only motto until the ‘Yotes starting clamping down on every promotion that tried to capitalize off of it since they own the phrase.

    As for your “your right vs. it’s right” argument, if you went out to make money off the “Just Do It” motto, I guarantee you’d have Nike all over you ass for stealing their property. You CANNOT steal a trademarked idea for any reason whatsoever. Whether or not anyone confuses Winnipeg with Penn State is irrelevant.

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    I’ll even take this one further:

    – Ring announcer Michael Buffer has the trademark on “Let’s get ready to rumble.” In fact, Holbrook said NHL clubs used to use that at the start of games but now must pay Buffer if they use it.

    – The Seattle Seahawks and Texas A&M wrangled over the “12th Man” in a lawsuit last year. The Seahawks now pay a licensing fee to A&M to use it.

    – 1st baseman Tony Clark registered “Anybody, anytime” this season after he coined it and it became the motto of the Diamondbacks.

    Intellectual property belongs to someone. Stealing it for your own capital gains is wrong, according to the law.

  • Mark in Cincy | October 19, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    check out the first post, along the FNOB fun from the other day

  • Roger Faso | October 19, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    All this movie/bullpen car talk got me thinking …

    Not exactly a bullpen car, but it definately looks like it could have come from the bullpen.

    Check out the 19 second mark.

  • Randy Williams | October 19, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”158762″]Question on one of the pics that Paul posted in the bullpen cart article…was it free cap day or something? Or did they used to only have one style of cap…and EVERYONE that went to the ballgames had one?[/quote]
    There is some “playoff/opening day bunting” on the railing in the pic…probably and opening day hat give away.

  • jesse | October 19, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”158774″]To fix my own quoting problem (dammit):

    [quote comment=”158773″][quote comment=”158615″]Jesse, the Jets did it every year they made the playoffs. It was a Winnipeg tradition. Don Cherry loved going to Winnipeg for the playoffs for this very reason. Winnipeg fans would literally dress from head to toe in white, and every single fan would be wearing white.[/quote]

    So they did it once? (Hahaha.)

    Good for them, do they still do it while they watch the Phoenix Coyotes on TV? Who cares how many times they did it? The Winnipeg Jets don’t exist anymore. Dead teams don’t have traditions. Phoenix is just sitting on the mark trying to get Penn State to buy it off them.

    Second, it’s a bullshit mark to begin with; Winnipeg, is the name of a town, which cannot be trademarked, white out is both a commercially available product (which trademark is properly owned), and a description of a weather event.

    Third, there is zero likelihood of confusion between the tradition of a hockey team that doesn’t exist anymore, and a college football team that does. How can you confuse Winnipeg with Penn State?

    Finally, the Coyotes have every right to protect “their” mark, and I have every right to say it’s a bunch of bullshit, which it is. I tell clients this every day; just because its your right, doesn’t mean its right™.[/quote][/quote]

    First, you should never tell a lawyer to go to law school, and then misquote the law calling something irrelevant, that is clearly relevant.

    “Whether or not anyone confuses Winnipeg with Penn State is irrelevant”

    The standard is “likelihood of confusion.” To be more specific, the use of a trademark in connection with the sale of a good constitutes infringement if it is likely to cause consumer confusion as to the source of those goods or as to the sponsorship or approval of such goods. In deciding whether consumers are likely to be confused, the courts will typically look to a number of factors, including: (1) the strength of the mark; (2) the proximity of the goods; (3) the similarity of the marks; (4) evidence of actual confusion; (5) the similarity of marketing channels used; (6) the degree of caution exercised by the typical purchaser; (7) the defendant’s intent. Polaroid Corp. v. Polarad Elect. Corp., 287 F.2d 492 (2d Cir.), cert. denied, 368 U.S. 820 (1961).

    [1] The Strength of the Mark, as noted, supra (that’s Latin for see above), the Winnipeg Jets don’t exist anymore. They don’t, I’m sorry if that’s a sore spot for you, but they are gone and they are never, ever, coming back. Ever. That mark only exists because the Coyotes keep filing the paper to protect it.

    [2] Proximity of the goods, Phoenix or Winnipeg versus State College, PA. Even more relevant, I would argue, is the difference between hockey and college football.

    [3] Similarity of the marks, the words Winnipeg and Penn State are pretty different if you ask me. The marks are different on their face.

    [4] Evidence of actual confusion: Anybody confuse Beaver Stadium with Winnipeg, or the Nittany Lions with the Coyotes? Didn’t think so. There is no confusion.

    [5] The similarity of marketing channels used; I’ll grant the promotions are similar, but they are promoted in totally different geographic regions.

    [6] The degree of caution exercised by the typical purchaser: I don’t see Winnipeg fans confusing themselves with Penn State fans by mistake

    [7] The defendant’s intent: Penn State has no reason to try and confuse people into thinking they are the Winnipeg Jets or the Phoenix Coyotes. Penn State’s promotion appeals to Penn State fans.

    It’s a money grab by the Coyotes, Penn State should call them on it and them through the Courts. Then we’ll see hoe important their “history” is to them.

  • jesse | October 19, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”158777″]I’ll even take this one further:

    – Ring announcer Michael Buffer has the trademark on “Let’s get ready to rumble.” In fact, Holbrook said NHL clubs used to use that at the start of games but now must pay Buffer if they use it.

    – The Seattle Seahawks and Texas A&M wrangled over the “12th Man” in a lawsuit last year. The Seahawks now pay a licensing fee to A&M to use it.

    – 1st baseman Tony Clark registered “Anybody, anytime” this season after he coined it and it became the motto of the Diamondbacks.

    Intellectual property belongs to someone. Stealing it for your own capital gains is wrong, according to the law.[/quote]

    1. Because they use his voice

    2. Because it was the exact same phrase, and the Seahawks tried to stop aTm from using it, even though A&M had been using it for fifty years before there was any such thing as the Seahawks.

    3. What’s your point?

  • todd krevanchi | October 19, 2007 at 5:08 pm |

    jeez, i better becareful the next time i go to a game wearing a white shirt… i might get sued.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 19, 2007 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”158756″][quote comment=”158677″]Let’s try this again…

    [quote comment=”158676″][quote comment=”158648″][quote comment=”158577″][quote comment=”158567″][quote comment=”158559″]Paul, sad to see no reference of the classic bullpen car from the movie Major League.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought the same thing….[/quote]

    At the risk of disappointing all of you… I’ve never seen Major League.[/quote]

    You must watch it today, along with 2 and 3: Back to the Minors….Major League is my all time favorite movie…

    “Today’s game was brought to you by…..hmm…I can’t find it…to hell with it”

    …gotta love Bob Uecker as Harry Doyle[/quote][/quote]

    …and for all you movie-trivia buffs, the name “Harry Doyle” was used for a main character, played by a legendary actor, in another (completely unrelated) film three years earlier. Anybody remember the film, and the actor?[/quote]

    1986 – Tough Guys – Burt Lancaster

    http://www.imdb.com/...

    Nicely done! I love that movie.

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”158787″][quote comment=”158777″]I’ll even take this one further:

    – Ring announcer Michael Buffer has the trademark on “Let’s get ready to rumble.” In fact, Holbrook said NHL clubs used to use that at the start of games but now must pay Buffer if they use it.

    – The Seattle Seahawks and Texas A&M wrangled over the “12th Man” in a lawsuit last year. The Seahawks now pay a licensing fee to A&M to use it.

    – 1st baseman Tony Clark registered “Anybody, anytime” this season after he coined it and it became the motto of the Diamondbacks.

    Intellectual property belongs to someone. Stealing it for your own capital gains is wrong, according to the law.[/quote]

    1. Because they use his voice

    2. Because it was the exact same phrase, and the Seahawks tried to stop aTm from using it, even though A&M had been using it for fifty years before there was any such thing as the Seahawks.

    3. What’s your point?[/quote]

    1. He trademarked the phrase as well as his voice.
    2. It’s the exact same problem.
    3. If someone files a trademark, it’s theirs.

  • Vegas4BOC | October 19, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    More pink news (Buffalo News):
    “The Sabres’ management and coaching staff will wear pink ties to honor “Hockey Fights Cancer” month for the game vs. Columbus on Friday night.”

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”158786″]
    It’s a money grab by the Coyotes, Penn State should call them on it and them through the Courts. Then we’ll see hoe important their “history” is to them.[/quote]

    They trademarked it. They own it. Simplicity at its finest.

  • Teebz | October 19, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”158792″]jeez, i better becareful the next time i go to a game wearing a white shirt… i might get sued.[/quote]

    Only if you call your shirt a “white out”, Todd. Otherwise, the Coyotes have no problem.

    This whole uproar over this makes me giggle. If anyone wants to split hairs over “three-peat”, be my guest.

  • Brad | October 19, 2007 at 5:51 pm |

    Who are the coaches represented in the Spurriur Dress up game? I recognized Paul “Bear” Bryant, and maybe Jackie Sherrell?

  • Zevi | October 19, 2007 at 6:04 pm |

    As i was looking around the e-bay site, i found a sale of the 1991 World Series trophy. thought that was a weird auction– why would a team see their trophy?

  • =bg= | October 19, 2007 at 6:33 pm |

    Paul, great Bullpen Car article.

  • Tim | October 19, 2007 at 6:48 pm |

    The NFL is taking the first initials off of their uniforms. I saw this on profootballtalk. Here is the write up.

    A reader recently asked us why Patriots quarterback Tom Brady didn’t have a “T” on the back of his jersey, given the presence of Kyle Brady on the team.

    Is it another example, the reader asked, of the brash Pats doing what they want to do?

    As it turns out, the league as of this year has dropped the practice of putting initials on jerseys. Moving forward, it will be last name and number only.

    “That’s why we have numbers on the jersey,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said via e-mail regarding the de-emphasis on distinguishing, for example, one guy named Brady from another guy named Brady.

    But there’s a caveat. Players who previously used initials will have the right to continue to do so.

    Our all-time favorite jersey names were Jack and Jim Youngblood of the Rams. They both had their full first names on their jerseys, centered about their last names.

    Check them out here. Scroll down the page a bit, the have a photo of Jack Youngblood.

  • Johnny O | October 19, 2007 at 7:11 pm |

    Wow. Talk about a great day for this to happen. It goes hand in hand with all the trademark discussion things today.

    Rockies attempt to patent “Rocktober”

  • Dom | October 19, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    Good shot of Penguins 250 Year City Patch

    http://sportsillustr...

  • badly drawn boykins | October 19, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”158817″]The NFL is taking the first initials off of their uniforms. I saw this on profootballtalk. Here is the write up.

    A reader recently asked us why Patriots quarterback Tom Brady didn’t have a “T” on the back of his jersey, given the presence of Kyle Brady on the team.

    Is it another example, the reader asked, of the brash Pats doing what they want to do?

    As it turns out, the league as of this year has dropped the practice of putting initials on jerseys. Moving forward, it will be last name and number only.

    “That’s why we have numbers on the jersey,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said via e-mail regarding the de-emphasis on distinguishing, for example, one guy named Brady from another guy named Brady.

    But there’s a caveat. Players who previously used initials will have the right to continue to do so.

    Our all-time favorite jersey names were Jack and Jim Youngblood of the Rams. They both had their full first names on their jerseys, centered about their last names.

    Check them out here. Scroll down the page a bit, the have a photo of Jack Youngblood.[/quote]Tim,
    Your comment would’ve been quite appropriate and helpful for Paul’s post earlier this week about names on the back.

  • jesse | October 19, 2007 at 8:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”158797″][quote comment=”158787″][quote comment=”158777″]I’ll even take this one further:

    – Ring announcer Michael Buffer has the trademark on “Let’s get ready to rumble.” In fact, Holbrook said NHL clubs used to use that at the start of games but now must pay Buffer if they use it.

    – The Seattle Seahawks and Texas A&M wrangled over the “12th Man” in a lawsuit last year. The Seahawks now pay a licensing fee to A&M to use it.

    – 1st baseman Tony Clark registered “Anybody, anytime” this season after he coined it and it became the motto of the Diamondbacks.

    Intellectual property belongs to someone. Stealing it for your own capital gains is wrong, according to the law.[/quote]

    1. Because they use his voice

    2. Because it was the exact same phrase, and the Seahawks tried to stop aTm from using it, even though A&M had been using it for fifty years before there was any such thing as the Seahawks.

    3. What’s your point?[/quote]

    1. He trademarked the phrase as well as his voice.
    2. It’s the exact same problem.
    3. If someone files a trademark, it’s theirs.[/quote]

    1. Right, you can do that. You can trademark a phrase, it is possible.

    2. No, it’s different. Both claimed to use the phrase 12th man. Don’t you see that two teams using the phrase 12th man is different than one team having the “Winnipeg White Out” and the other having the “Penn State White Out”? The phrases are different, see, how the words are different.

    3. No, that is what the legal standard I quoted you is for, it’s for determining what you can, and can’t trademark. I can’t trademark “nice weather we are having today”, and you can’t trademark the names of cities. It’s too generic, that’s why there is nothing the Steelers can do about a black t-shirt with Pittsburgh written on it in yellow.

    What you don’t seem to understand is that the legal standard I quoted is only applied when somebody challenges the mark, or if somebody tries to enforce it. The paper that says the Coyotes own that mark is only a piece of paper that says they got it first, not an absolute determination that they can use it perpetuity. Neither the Coyotes nor Penn State want to go to Court over the issue, it’s not worth it financially. But if they went to Court, I think Penn State would win.

  • Mark in Cincy | October 19, 2007 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”158803″]Who are the coaches represented in the Spurriur Dress up game? I recognized Paul “Bear” Bryant, and maybe Jackie Sherrell?[/quote]

    i do believe that the sweater vest is represented

  • Kyle O. | October 19, 2007 at 9:13 pm |

    kina annoying how UCONN’s helmets are lighter than their jerseys

  • S Bennett | October 19, 2007 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”158667″][quote comment=”158621″]

    Of course a related question could be when did goalies start using colored pads? I’d guess mid-1980s[/quote]
    I don’t have specifics or names, but I do know it was the early to mid 1980s that color started showing up on goalies. Goalie equipment used to be leather and the pads were filled with deer heair. They got plenty heavy by the end of a game after they were soaked from the ice.

    A Blackhawks goalie, and as a Hawks fan I am ashamed to say I can’t think of his name (in my defense I was only a little kid at the time) wore pads made by Aeroflow (SP?) pads that were the first synthetic pads as they used fabric on the outside, and foam and other materials for padding. This led to the different colors, then the designs started coming down the line in the mid to late 90s. The pads I wore even 4 years ago are nothing like the ones on the market today. It’s amazing how far goalie pads have come in 25 years.[/quote]

    Billy Smith wore coloured pads as far back as the 1976/77 season.

    I think you’re thinking of the Aeroflex pads. Jacques Cloutier wore them (He was a Sabre before he was a Blackhawk), as did Darren Pupa, Reggie Lemelin, and Greg Millen (sory, no pic)among others.

    I’m going to guess that Cloutier was the first. If not, then Puppa. It seems to have started in Buffalo.

    There were other versions of these pads to, as worn by Tom Barrasso
    .

    They were considerably lighter, and did not take on moisture (therby staying light all game), but the knock against them was the blocky design, which made getting up cumbesome. They didn’t last long, but were a massive innovtion, that led to the change away from horsehair pads, to the synthetic materials they use today.

    SB.

  • Teebz | October 20, 2007 at 1:39 am |

    [quote comment=”158841″]
    1. Right, you can do that. You can trademark a phrase, it is possible.

    2. No, it’s different. Both claimed to use the phrase 12th man. Don’t you see that two teams using the phrase 12th man is different than one team having the “Winnipeg White Out” and the other having the “Penn State White Out”? The phrases are different, see, how the words are different.

    3. No, that is what the legal standard I quoted you is for, it’s for determining what you can, and can’t trademark. I can’t trademark “nice weather we are having today”, and you can’t trademark the names of cities. It’s too generic, that’s why there is nothing the Steelers can do about a black t-shirt with Pittsburgh written on it in yellow.

    What you don’t seem to understand is that the legal standard I quoted is only applied when somebody challenges the mark, or if somebody tries to enforce it. The paper that says the Coyotes own that mark is only a piece of paper that says they got it first, not an absolute determination that they can use it perpetuity. Neither the Coyotes nor Penn State want to go to Court over the issue, it’s not worth it financially. But if they went to Court, I think Penn State would win.[/quote]

    1. ‘Nuff said.
    2. They changed the trademark to just “White Out” after they moved the team from Winnipeg.
    3. So you argued all of this for nothing since neither is willing to actually challenge the trademark? If this was all just theory, this was a lesson in futility.

  • josh's twin | October 20, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    They were considerably lighter, and did not take on moisture (therby staying light all game), but the knock against them was the blocky design, which made getting up cumbesome. They didn’t last long, but were a massive innovtion, that led to the change away from horsehair pads, to the synthetic materials they use today.

    The other knock against them was their bounciness led to lots of rebounds.