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Quick Change Artist

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link. Plus I also have a review of last night’s No Mas event on today’s Page 2 index page.

Meanwhile: Great little uniform-related episode in the 4th inning of Tuesday night’s Cubs/Rockies game, when Chicago pitcher Ted Lilly was due to bat but was momentarily AWOL, leading to some good uni-centric chatter from Cubbies announcers Bob Brenly and Len Kasper:

Brenly: Because Felix Pie [the previous batter] swung at the first pitch, Ted Lilly’s not ready to take his at-bat right here. Takin’ care of some business up the tunnel there, in the Cubs’ clubhouse. [Lilly emerges from the dugout and hustles up to the plate.] Now he’s gonna sprint up there.

Kasper: Y’know, I wonder if he changed his jersey, which I know Carlos Zambrano does. [Lilly fidgets with his uniform as he steps into the batter’s box.] Kinda grabbin’ his top button there. We only know about Carlos because of the brawl against the Padres — he came out and didn’t have his belt buckled.

Brenly: We were probably fortunate the brawl didn’t happen, say, five minutes sooner. No telling what Carlos would’ve been wearing as he came out of the tunnel. Or not wearing. [Camera offers a close-up of Lilly’s midsection.]

Kasper [chuckling]: Belt buckle’s fine. Does Ted normally wear batting gloves? [Yes. — PL] For some reason he just looks different than I’m used to seeing him at the plate.

Brenly: I’m not so sure he has any undershirt on at this point. [Camera shows that Lilly, who’d been wearing a white undershirt in the top of the inning, now appears to be undershirt-free. He continues to fidget and fuss with his jersey.] Usually you can see the collar of the undershirt right there in the nape of the neck, but it doesn’t look like he has an undershirt on right now. May have been interrupted in mid-change. You know, it’s not unusual for starting pitcher, Len, to change undershirts three or four times in the course of a ballgame. You start to perspire out there on the mound, as hard as you’re working. The undershirt gets heavy and wet, restricts your movements a little bit. [Lilly grounds out and fidgets with his jersey one last time.]

Kasper: Well, Ted Lilly might go back and get dressed again.

This reminds me of Game 5 of the 1969 World Series, which featured a slight delay when Frank Robinson was due to bat (I’m fairly certain it was the 6th inning) but was nowhere to be found. He eventually popped out of the dugout while still tucking in his jersey, with his shirttail tag clearly visible. This game shows up on TV from time to time. Anyone got it on video?

(Special thanks to John Lanctot, who brought the Lilly sequence to my attention.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: The President isn’t the only one who gets free uni-related swag — Chief Justice John Roberts got an MSU hockey jersey during the team’s recent visit to DC, which I guess means he has to recuse himself from any college hockey-related cases that reach the Supreme Court (with thanks to Christopher Drouin). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Buddy Bell and the rest of the Royals coaching staff will wear No. 22 on Sunday, as a tribute to Negro Leagues stalwart Buck O’Neil. … Check out the gorgeous ribbed collar and cuffs in this shot of Ernie Banks. No wonder he wanted to play two! … I swear, is there something in the Shea Stadium water or what? From yesterday’s New York Times: “Several players wore orange T-shirts beneath their jerseys [Tuesday] night that featured a likeness of Bozo the Clown and the words, ‘Enough!’ on the front and ‘There ain’t a big top big enough for this circus’ on the back.” As I’ve said too many times before, why not just dress the team like clowns and get it over with already? … Brinke Guthrie notes that Roger Federer is wearing signature sneakers at Wimbledon. The four Swiss emblems represent Federer’s four staight Wimbledon titles. … I get my health insurance through these guys. As you can see, their web site is very plain-looking, as are all their mailings and other graphics. So I was surprised to see them running this ad on the subway yesterday. I mean, geez, does it remind you of anything? … Great article here about managers’ and coaches’ attire (with special get-well thanks to Tessa, who sent in this contribution from her hospital bed). … From yesterday’s comments: Bill Belichick appears to have initial-inscribed shorts. … Aqua Paradiso is an Italian mineral water with a winged-angel design motif. They also sponsor a volleyball team, whose players are forced to wear the wings in an unfortunate location (nice find by Jeremy Brahm). … Manny’s latest stunt (as reported by Jere): wristbands in honor of hs hairdresser (yes, the numbers don’t match, but the name does — maybe they couldn’t make a three-digit wristband). … Interesting, if somewhat outdated, find by Ethan Rowley: Some teams in the IWFL — that’s Independent Women’s Football League, dummy — have used old uniforms donated by NFL teams. And if you think NFL uniforms are too big to be worn by women, think again.

 

213 comments to Quick Change Artist

  • Dane | June 28, 2007 at 8:14 am |

    I would say that subway ad looks more like the new Vanilla Coke Zero packaging:

    http://www.nowpublic...

  • Kel | June 28, 2007 at 8:18 am |

    The “four Swiss emblems” link isn’t working, Paul.

    And as for the Mets? I still have loyalty to them, but their uniform disasters are just pitiful.

  • Elwood | June 28, 2007 at 8:22 am |

    Was Ted Lilly in the can or something? I remember in one of Jay Johnstone’s books he told a story about having an awful case of the trots because of some bad Mexican food, and Tommy Lasorda (who was annoyed at him, the two had silly fights from time to time) wanted him to pinch hit. Johnstone cinches up his pants, bolts out to the field, grabs a bat, and then hits a home run.

  • Ben | June 28, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    Love that MSU jersey! Seems shiny, though – anyone know what is it made of and if I can get one?

  • Paul Lukas | June 28, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    [quote comment=”109897″]The “four Swiss emblems” link isn’t working, Paul.[/quote]

    There was a bad code that had messed up that whole sentence. Now fixed.

  • Roger | June 28, 2007 at 8:32 am |

    Those Paradiso shorts rhyme with day.

    I gotta get a pair.

  • Robert | June 28, 2007 at 8:37 am |

    So was Lilly wearing an undershirt when he returned to the mound?

  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    More wardrobe controversy at Wimbledon:

    http://www.thesun.co...,,2-2007290588,00.html

  • John O'Hare | June 28, 2007 at 8:43 am |

    Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath!

  • Kip Whiffle | June 28, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?

  • Joel Keller | June 28, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    Torre wears the uniform top about 75% of the time (he was wearing one last night). At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.

    Of course, there’s Tom Coughlin’s typically humorless response to the question: “Do I get any extra timeouts or extra points for it?” Coughlin said. “Is there any reason I should do that?”

    Boy, the guy must be a barrel of laughs at parties.

  • bosox28 | June 28, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    the weird thing about Manny’s wristband is that it looks like it is missing the “s”…if we go by the jersey that his hairdresser is wearing, it should say “LMONSTRO”…but it looks like his wristband says “LMONTRO”…maybe I’m seeing things

  • JFL | June 28, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Lilly was not wearing an undershirt when he went back to the mound the next inning (5th), because he made the second out, and by the time he got back to the dugout it was almost time to go pitch again. I cant remember if when he came out for the 6th he was wearing an undershirt.

  • Stuby | June 28, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Manny has a hairdresser? Who knew?

  • Pisto | June 28, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    The No Mas Lottery mentioned in yesterdays blog was a big success last night. I walked out with Chris Webber (#18 pick) and Danny Ferry (#96 pick). Great stuff!

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    Paul,
    You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear. But I think we’re missing the bigger picture. The reason they can wear the orange is because for the last 4 games they have worn BLUE caps at home for weekday night games. Let’s not look a gift horse in the mouth.

  • Paul Lukas | June 28, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”109925″]Paul,
    You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.[/quote]

    The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

    But my comment was more about what was printed ON the undershirts. Who the hell would wear that?

  • jere | June 28, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”109917″]the weird thing about Manny’s wristband is that it looks like it is missing the “s”…if we go by the jersey that his hairdresser is wearing, it should say “LMONSTRO”…but it looks like his wristband says “LMONTRO”…maybe I’m seeing things[/quote]

    In my blog entry yesterday when I posted those shots, I did note this. But yeah, you’re right. No S on the wristbands.

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”109928″][quote comment=”109925″]Paul,
    You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.[/quote]

    The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

    But my comment was more about what was printed ON the undershirts. Who the hell would wear that?[/quote]

    As long as they win they can wear NYC Dept of Sanitation , Bozo the Clown or even Otto on an orange t-shirt if they want to as long as they wear their home cap (all blue) at home and their road cap (black cap / blue brim) on the road and ditch the all black jersey’s.

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    Hey paul, my last post got eaten by the Spam Monster. Can you fix that? Thanks.

  • jere | June 28, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”109916″]At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.[/quote]

    Francona has problems with his circulation, which requires him to wear warm clothing over his jersey. We did get to see his #47–at the ring ceremony.

  • Roger Vick | June 28, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    This is untrue — I just called the Jets. They will, however, be wearing open-ass leather chaps when they take it up the tail from the Patriots later this year.

  • Sage Confucius | June 28, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    I agree about what’s on the Mets’ shirts. I’m hoping there’s some inside joke about it. If not then it’s just pathetic.

    Kudos to Tessa for exhibiting a new level of uni obsession. Keep the gown closed and get home soon.

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”109940″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    This is untrue — I just called the Jets. They will, however, be wearing open-ass leather chaps when they take it up the tail from the Patriots later this year.[/quote]

    But we wore that last year.

  • Stuby | June 28, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”109938″][quote comment=”109916″]At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.[/quote]

    Francona has problems with his circulation, which requires him to wear warm clothing over his jersey. We did get to see his #47–at the ring ceremony.[/quote]
    I think this at least looks a lot better than this and especially this. I still think it would look way better if he wore the fleece under the jersey, though.

  • Eric | June 28, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    That subway ad reminds me of the album cover to Steely Dan’s Aja.

  • Jason | June 28, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    So I went to the IWFL website and looked at the teams. Does the logo for the Southern Maine Rebels
    http://www.southernm...

    Remind you of anything?
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Not only are they women playing football, but they make a nerdy Star Wars reference with their logo. Nice. :)

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”109920″]Manny has a hairdresser? Who knew?[/quote]
    Manny needs a weed whacker.
    Ain’t no hairdresser gettin near that nest.

  • Stuby | June 28, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”109946″]That subway ad reminds me of the album cover to Steely Dan’s Aja.[/quote]
    I like how the ‘F’ and ‘U’ are highlighted at the top of the ad.

  • Matt B | June 28, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.

  • possum | June 28, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”109943″][quote comment=”109940″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    This is untrue — I just called the Jets. They will, however, be wearing open-ass leather chaps when they take it up the tail from the Patriots later this year.[/quote]

    But we wore that last year.[/quote]
    The only NFL throwbacks I’ve heard of are the Steelers with the yellow helmets and the Eagles in a weird aquamarine/yellow combo.

  • Joel Keller | June 28, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”109950″][quote comment=”109920″]Manny has a hairdresser? Who knew?[/quote]
    Manny needs a weed whacker.
    Ain’t no hairdresser gettin near that nest.[/quote]

    I love how Manny’s helmet stands high on his head because of all the hair that’s crammed under it.

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    I agree with Sage. Get well soon, and get home for hockey, Tessa! :o)

  • Robert | June 28, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”109953″]I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t coaches look a tad silly hitting fungos in khakis and a polo shirt?

  • bj in gainesville | June 28, 2007 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”109953″]I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.[/quote]

    when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…

  • Quint | June 28, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”109963″][quote comment=”109953″]I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.[/quote]

    when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…[/quote]
    Jim Leyland’s known for wearing spikes, but there are few, if any, others who do.

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

    Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

    I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…

  • Joe H | June 28, 2007 at 10:42 am |
  • Anthony Verna | June 28, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    Someone needs to tell Bob Brenly the nape is the BACK of the neck.

    http://www.m-w.com/d...

  • Ben | June 28, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    David Ortiz has also been wearing the LMONSTRO wristband.

  • Anthony Verna | June 28, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    I also never made the connection to the Freelancers’ Union ad and the Coke can. And side-by-side, I just didn’t see it. The waves look different.

    Also, my favorite mineral water from Italy? Verna, of course.

    http://www.acqua2o.i...

  • R9bb | June 28, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    Oden chooses 52

    http://www.yardbarke...

  • diz | June 28, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”109910″]More wardrobe controversy at Wimbledon:

    http://www.thesun.co...,,2-2007290588,00.html[/quote]

    *more rubbish newspaper talking rubbish

    Love how they don’t seem to realise that she’s probably just wearing shorts so that she doesn’t expose her underwear. LIKE ALL THE OTHER FEMALE PLAYERS AT THIS TOURNAMENT.

  • SWC Susan | June 28, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”109949″]So I went to the IWFL website and looked at the teams. Does the logo for the Southern Maine Rebels
    http://www.southernm...

    Remind you of anything?
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Not only are they women playing football, but they make a nerdy Star Wars reference with their logo. Nice. :)[/quote]

    While most are pretty good logos that follow all the rules, there are some really weak ones. Having compiled quite a collection with over 300 logos for over 200 teams, I have been working on an all-inclusive women’s tackle football logo website.

    [quote]Some teams in the IWFL — that’s Independent Women’s Football League, dummy — have used old uniforms donated by NFL teams. And if you think NFL uniforms are too big to be worn by women, think again. [/quote]

    And by the way, there are no women’s football unis… so, there was always a little extra pouch of fabric up front in the pants!

  • Roger | June 28, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”109969″][quote comment=”109963″][quote comment=”109953″]I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.[/quote]

    when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…[/quote]
    Jim Leyland’s known for wearing spikes, but there are few, if any, others who do.[/quote]

    I, for one, would wear spikes in a dugout. With all that tobacco, saliva and phlegm, I would want the soles of my shoes to be propped up by half an inch with metal blades. If it wasn’t so awkward, I would wear them at work, just to stand infront of the urinals.

    Think about it. Your rubber sole is smashing into a puddle that is a petri dish of nasty. You then go home, and tromp around the carpet that your two year old plays on.

    No thanks.

  • Seth H | June 28, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    Oden chooses 52

    http://www.yardbarke

    What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.

  • jp | June 28, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    Maybe Manny should worry more about going 0-5 and allowing the Sox to get swept by the Mariners than he should about his hair???

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    From MLB’s Official Rules of Baseball:

    Rule 3.15
    No person shall be allowed on the playing field during a game except players and coaches in uniform, managers, news photographers authorized by the home team, umpires, officers of the law in uniform and watchmen or other employees of the home club.

    I know it was a rule back in the early days of baseball that the manager had to be in the team uniform, but I can not find a rule that specifically states this. If you read the rule I just stated, only the players and coaches are to be in full uniform, though to step onto the field, you have to be in full uniform. So, managers should be in full uniform to enter the field, but apparently they don’t have to have the jersey on as long as they have the pants?

  • voteprime | June 28, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ’76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).

  • Kip Whiffle | June 28, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    Near the end of her 2007 video, Houston Texans cheerleader Celina tells us a little about her sock collection. I swear this sports uniform related, and not just an excuse to ogle a hot cheerleader.

  • Kip Whiffle | June 28, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    Cheerleader link:
    http://www.houstonte...

  • Stuby | June 28, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”109982″]Oden chooses 52

    http://www.yardbarke

    What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.[/quote]
    I guess Portland hasn’t retired Buck Williams’ number then.

  • possum | June 28, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”109982″]Oden chooses 52

    http://www.yardbarke

    What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.[/quote]
    That’s what I thought. Somebody should ask him wear his new uniform is.

  • Paul Lukas | June 28, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    Today’s ESPN column is up.

    Also, I have a short review of last night’s No Mas “Lottery” event today on Page 2 (scroll down to where it says “Ewing Goes No. 1”).

  • Jean Oliva | June 28, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    LMONSTRO is his nickname which is spanish for “the monster”…Im from the Dominican Republic as Ortiz and Manny and it probaly says LMONTRO cause we take out the “s” from every spanish word over here.

  • joe | June 28, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”109919″]Lilly was not wearing an undershirt when he went back to the mound the next inning (5th), because he made the second out, and by the time he got back to the dugout it was almost time to go pitch again. I cant remember if when he came out for the 6th he was wearing an undershirt.[/quote]

    Lilly had no undershirt the rest of the game.

  • Jeremiah | June 28, 2007 at 11:45 am |

    I also am firmly of the belief that baseball managers don’t need to wear double-knit polyester (especially the more rotund of them), but if they must, please ditch the Hefty bag and at least wear the jersey. I don’t like the warm-up look at all.

  • John in Athens | June 28, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”109928″][quote comment=”109925″]Paul,
    You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.[/quote]

    The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.[/quote]

    Orange is my anti-black.

    I try to wear as much orange as possible when I see the Mets at the Ted so that I stand out even more amongst the Chop-When-We’re-Winning types.

    Blue and black blend. Orange is a declaration of allegiance!

    By the way, does anyone have a suggestion for removing swooshes?

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”110008″][quote comment=”109928″][quote comment=”109925″]Paul,
    You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.[/quote]

    The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.[/quote]

    Orange is my anti-black.

    I try to wear as much orange as possible when I see the Mets at the Ted so that I stand out even more amongst the Chop-When-We’re-Winning types.

    Blue and black blend. Orange is a declaration of allegiance!

    By the way, does anyone have a suggestion for removing swooshes?[/quote]

    is it emboidered or silk screened?

  • Chad G | June 28, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    I posted this last night, but late. The Mets have worn blue caps 5 games in a row. I don’t think this has happened since probably 1997. Could this mean that the mlb like how they forced the Mets to wear the BP caps during BP have also mandated that they wear their home caps at home and their road caps on the road?…god I hope so. (knocks on wood)

  • Marty Met | June 28, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”109988″]SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ’76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).[/quote]My beloved Nets (only until they move to Brooklyn, then I’m DONE with them) have two players on the list, but how could S.I. over look their worst pick – Yinka (Stinka) Dare?

  • Ben | June 28, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    Looks like Dave Bush of the Brewers has switched from wearing Pumas http://newyork.yanke... to wearing New Balance Spikes (from yesterdays game)

    http://www.jsonline....

  • edr | June 28, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    the 1969 worldd series has been on sny as a met classic. frank robinson appeared to be hit by a pitch, but the umpire ruled that he was not. after arguing, he went into the dugout and then came back. not quite sure if he was changing his uniform, or getting treatment

  • voteprime | June 28, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”110011″][quote comment=”109988″]SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ’76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).[/quote]My beloved Nets (only until they move to Brooklyn, then I’m DONE with them) have two players on the list, but how could S.I. over look their worst pick – Yinka (Stinka) Dare?[/quote]
    Oh yes, Yinka. I think he was excluded because all the people on the list were drafted within the top 10 picks (in fact only 2 members were drafted out of the top 5) and Mr. Dare went #14 in 1994. That year does include a bust of its own though: Jason Kidd. What the heck ever happened to him?

  • GBoJackson | June 28, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”109951″][quote comment=”109946″]That subway ad reminds me of the album cover to Steely Dan’s Aja.[/quote]
    I like how the ‘F’ and ‘U’ are highlighted at the top of the ad.[/quote]
    Yeah, they are totally showing how they feel about their customers there Paul.

  • GoTerriers | June 28, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”109993″][quote comment=”109982″]Oden chooses 52

    http://www.yardbarke

    What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.[/quote]
    That’s what I thought. Somebody should ask him wear his new uniform is.[/quote]

    Funny, I noticed the spelling and grammar (or lack thereof) too, but what really struck me about the blog (and I read several of the entries) is this: Greg Oden is a young man with extraordinary athletic ability. He has been coached and more than likely has his ass kissed because of it since he was 5 years old. He is about to embark on a career that will provide him and his family financial security in perpetuity. In what has become all too rare an occurrence, he also seems to have none of the sense of entitlement that so many young athletes have today.
    Go back to his blog and read the entry about his meeting with Bill Russell, Bill Walton, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing and Bob Lanier. To smack-talk about how he’s going to shatter records and be better than all of those guys (not that anyone will EVER be better than Russell!). Just a sincere appreciation for the time spent and for the opportunity to soak up some knowledge. Also in the entry about his first day in New York, what was the last time you heard an athlete (or any high-profile individual) say a media training session was “fun”.

    Greg Oden is a unique talent and a unique individual. Portland, get ready. Something special is coming your way!

  • Rich O. | June 28, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”109987″]From MLB’s Official Rules of Baseball:

    Rule 3.15
    No person shall be allowed on the playing field during a game except players and coaches in uniform, managers, news photographers authorized by the home team, umpires, officers of the law in uniform and watchmen or other employees of the home club.

    I know it was a rule back in the early days of baseball that the manager had to be in the team uniform, but I can not find a rule that specifically states this. If you read the rule I just stated, only the players and coaches are to be in full uniform, though to step onto the field, you have to be in full uniform. So, managers should be in full uniform to enter the field, but apparently they don’t have to have the jersey on as long as they have the pants?[/quote]

    I think you’re reading that wrong. The rule requires players and coaches to be in uniform to be on the field. Managers are no more required to be in uniform than the grounds crew. The rule just allows managers on the field. That’s all it does with regard to them.

  • GoTerriers | June 28, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”110026″]To smack-talk about how he’s going to shatter records and be better than all of those guys (not that anyone will EVER be better than Russell!). Just a sincere appreciation for the time spent and for the opportunity to soak up some knowledge.quote]

    Sorry, I made a bad typo that would COMPLETELY negate any further statements I made . . .

    It should read “NO smack-talk” not “TO smack-talk”.

  • Kyle at IU | June 28, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”109988″]SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ’76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).[/quote]

    Aww, Kent Benson. He’s a total hero here in Bloomington, and it was a poor shame his talents didn’t translate to the NBA.

    Looking past that lovely Marquette jersey, you gotta love those striped socks on Benson. Hopefully, someone on the 07-08 Hoosiers will bring that back…

  • Mr. Met | June 28, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”109928″][quote comment=”109925″]Paul,
    You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.[/quote]

    The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

    But my comment was more about what was printed ON the undershirts. Who the hell would wear that?[/quote]

    Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

    The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.

  • Mr. Met | June 28, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”110010″]I posted this last night, but late. The Mets have worn blue caps 5 games in a row. I don’t think this has happened since probably 1997. Could this mean that the mlb like how they forced the Mets to wear the BP caps during BP have also mandated that they wear their home caps at home and their road caps on the road?…god I hope so. (knocks on wood)[/quote]

    Wow, I never thought of that! That would be great indeed. Sort of like getting dealt a bunch of lemons and making lemonade. Or something like that……

  • Mr. Met | June 28, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”109722″][quote comment=”109717″]Here are photos of a prototype for what ultimately became the Reds 1999 road uniforms. They were considering going to a black sleeve instead of a vest. Yikes. And the thick-stripes on the pants were just plain ugly. I am quite pleased that they gave the thumbs down to this idea.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...
    Those are very softball-ish. I love all of these uniforms-that-never-were that people have posted today. Keep ’em comin’.[/quote]

    If I recall correctly, a while back someone posted that the Mets were contemplating going to a powder-blue road uni, and that a player (Jon Matlack?) had worn the prototype to the All-Star Game that year (not sure what year it was). Anyone have the info and/or pics?

    I second the notion for a column on uni prototypes.

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”110043″][quote comment=”109722″][quote comment=”109717″]Here are photos of a prototype for what ultimately became the Reds 1999 road uniforms. They were considering going to a black sleeve instead of a vest. Yikes. And the thick-stripes on the pants were just plain ugly. I am quite pleased that they gave the thumbs down to this idea.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...
    Those are very softball-ish. I love all of these uniforms-that-never-were that people have posted today. Keep ’em comin’.[/quote]

    If I recall correctly, a while back someone posted that the Mets were contemplating going to a powder-blue road uni, and that a player (Jon Matlack?) had worn the prototype to the All-Star Game that year (not sure what year it was). Anyone have the info and/or pics?

    I second the notion for a column on uni prototypes.[/quote]
    Dear Lord, that’s gross. That makes the Mets look blue and orange.

  • voteprime | June 28, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”110034″]Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

    The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.[/quote]
    I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.

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  • Mr. Met | June 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”110048″][quote comment=”110034″]Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

    The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.[/quote]
    I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.[/quote]

    It’s not uni-ambivalence (uni-ambivalence?); it’s one thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because it’s not one of their colors”, which I grant you, Paul said. It’s another thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because of the message written on it”, because:

    (1) You can’t see it with a buttoned-up jersey,

    (2) Until the Times had printed its article, there was no reason for you to assume that it was anything but a sports shirt, ala Nike or Under Armour.

  • possum | June 28, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”110059″][quote comment=”110048″][quote comment=”110034″]Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

    The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.[/quote]
    I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.[/quote]

    It’s not uni-ambivalence (uni-ambivalence?); it’s one thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because it’s not one of their colors”, which I grant you, Paul said. It’s another thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because of the message written on it”, because:

    (1) You can’t see it with a buttoned-up jersey,

    (2) Until the Times had printed its article, there was no reason for you to assume that it was anything but a sports shirt, ala Nike or Under Armour.[/quote]
    I think you’re missing the point. They are admitting they are a bunch of clowns. That the team is comparable to a circus.

  • Pisto | June 28, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    Paul, did you win anything at the Lottery last night?

  • Chad G | June 28, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”110059″][quote comment=”110048″][quote comment=”110034″]Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

    The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.[/quote]
    I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.[/quote]

    It’s not uni-ambivalence (uni-ambivalence?); it’s one thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because it’s not one of their colors”, which I grant you, Paul said. It’s another thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because of the message written on it”, because:

    (1) You can’t see it with a buttoned-up jersey,

    (2) Until the Times had printed its article, there was no reason for you to assume that it was anything but a sports shirt, ala Nike or Under Armour.[/quote]

    I think the wacky undershirts are cool. The players are obviosly wearing them for a reason otherwise why wouldnt they just used fee swag they get from majestic. John Franco wore his dad’s orange NYC dept. of sanitation shirt under his jersey his whole Mets career. Did anyone complain? no, plus it was a nice little story.

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    Just heard on ESPN radio Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie has been officially denied the purchase of the Nashville Predators. Now there is speculation that California businessman William (Boots) DelBiaggio is buying the NHL franchise.
    Balsillie, the Canadian Research-in-Motion co-founder had reached a US$238-million deal to buy the Predators. DelBiaggio’s original offer reportedly was a less lucrative US$190 million.
    DelBiaggio is after a franchise for Kansas City. Get ready Kansas City, the NHL is on its way. And don’t screw it up this time.!

  • Ian K | June 28, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”110026″][quote comment=”109993″][quote comment=”109982″]Oden chooses 52

    http://www.yardbarke

    What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.[/quote]
    That’s what I thought. Somebody should ask him wear his new uniform is.[/quote]

    Funny, I noticed the spelling and grammar (or lack thereof) too, but what really struck me about the blog (and I read several of the entries) is this: Greg Oden is a young man with extraordinary athletic ability. He has been coached and more than likely has his ass kissed because of it since he was 5 years old. He is about to embark on a career that will provide him and his family financial security in perpetuity. In what has become all too rare an occurrence, he also seems to have none of the sense of entitlement that so many young athletes have today.
    Go back to his blog and read the entry about his meeting with Bill Russell, Bill Walton, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing and Bob Lanier. To smack-talk about how he’s going to shatter records and be better than all of those guys (not that anyone will EVER be better than Russell!). Just a sincere appreciation for the time spent and for the opportunity to soak up some knowledge. Also in the entry about his first day in New York, what was the last time you heard an athlete (or any high-profile individual) say a media training session was “fun”.

    Greg Oden is a unique talent and a unique individual. Portland, get ready. Something special is coming your way![/quote]

    Very good points sir. I have been wanting to pile on Oden too for the poor grammar, etc, and also for the fact that it’s so obvious that college is becoming a one-and-done program. All that talk from Durant and Oden about how “college is great” and “I’m staying all 4 years to win a championship” was BS and we should’ve known it from the start.

    But in the end, I can live with all that. I agree that Oden does seem humbled by the greats of the game and he doesn’t feel like he’s the Second Coming and all the NBA teams should bow to him.

    And I have a special affinity for the number 52 so maybe I’ll now buy a jersey…

  • Mr. Met | June 28, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”110061″]I think you’re missing the point. They are admitting they are a bunch of clowns. That the team is comparable to a circus.[/quote]

    (1) Seeing as how you are not a member of the ballclub and spent no time in their clubhouse, I’m not quite sure how you can make a statement about what they are saying or “admitting”.

    (2) And what does that message on their t-shirt have to do with their uniform? No one has answered that yet.

    This is not a Uni-Watch issue. Again, not liking the orange shirt because they should be wearing blue undershirts = a Uni-Watch issue. Not liking the orange shirt not because it’s aesthetically wrong but because of the graphic on the front that you cannot see because the jersey is buttoned over it and therefore doesn’t interfere with how the uniform looks on the playing field= not a Uni-Watch issue.

    Let me put it this way: If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because it breaks up the symmetry of the uni”, that to me is a Uni-Watch issue. If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because they are using it to mourn for Cory Lidle, who I didn’t really care much for”, (which is NOT my POV; I’m just using it as an example) that to me is not a Uni-Watch issue; you’re not really basing your dislike of the armband on how it affects the aesthetics of the uniform, but on your own personal politics and feelings toward the individual being mourned.

    So now, if someone says “I don’t like the orange shirts because of the graphic/message they have on them”, what does that have to do with the team’s uniform?

  • Tom in Baltimore | June 28, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”109911″]Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath![/quote]

    Here’s an idea! Instead of retiring Torre’s number, MLB could just ceremoniously retire the managerial smock thus making it inappropriate for other managers to wear it!

  • Big O | June 28, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”110077″][quote comment=”109911″]Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath![/quote]

    Here’s an idea! Instead of retiring Torre’s number, MLB could just ceremoniously retire the managerial smock thus making it inappropriate for other managers to wear it![/quote]

    Great Idea!

  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”110081″][quote comment=”110077″][quote comment=”109911″]Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath![/quote]

    Here’s an idea! Instead of retiring Torre’s number, MLB could just ceremoniously retire the managerial smock thus making it inappropriate for other managers to wear it![/quote]

    Great Idea![/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but before this year, how often did Torre wear the smock? I almost feel like it was barely ever. This year it’s about 25%, like someone mentioned above. I guess he’s been talking to Terry Francona or John Gibbons too much!

  • Dane | June 28, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    I just watched Maria Sharapova’s match at Wimbledon. What the heck was she wearing? Her tennis outfit actually had wings on the back? I saw the swoosh, but I expected either a red bull or the Victoria’s Secret Angels wordmark.

    If I find a picture, I’ll link it later.

  • Steve | June 28, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?

  • marlowe | June 28, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”109987″]From MLB’s Official Rules of Baseball:

    Rule 3.15
    No person shall be allowed on the playing field during a game except players and coaches in uniform, managers, news photographers authorized by the home team, umpires, officers of the law in uniform and watchmen or other employees of the home club.

    I know it was a rule back in the early days of baseball that the manager had to be in the team uniform, but I can not find a rule that specifically states this. If you read the rule I just stated, only the players and coaches are to be in full uniform, though to step onto the field, you have to be in full uniform. So, managers should be in full uniform to enter the field, but apparently they don’t have to have the jersey on as long as they have the pants?[/quote]

    Of course Connie Mack who managed the A’s from 1901 – 1950 never wore a uniform

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”110084″][quote comment=”110081″]
    Maybe it’s just me, but before this year, how often did Torre wear the smock?

    I almost feel like it was barely ever.

    This year it’s about 25%, like someone mentioned above.[/quote]

    I guess he’s been talking to Terry Francona or John Gibbons too much![/quote]

    Gotta love the AL East… er, AL Smock division.

  • Chance | June 28, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.

  • Chad G | June 28, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”110085″]I just watched Maria Sharapova’s match at Wimbledon. What the heck was she wearing? Her tennis outfit actually had wings on the back? I saw the swoosh, but I expected either a red bull or the Victoria’s Secret Angels wordmark.

    If I find a picture, I’ll link it later.[/quote]

    Here is a pic not the greatest though

  • jere | June 28, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”109985″]Maybe Manny should worry more about going 0-5 and allowing the Sox to get swept by the Mariners than he should about his hair???[/quote]

    Yeah, his weird hair really cost the team in 2004. And now, with the Sox having the best record in baseball since May 13th, seriously, he should adopt a more Jeter-like, buttoned up (to the throat–ecchhhh) appearance. Then he and the Sox may finally find success.

  • Big O | June 28, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top

  • Steve | June 28, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    I was actually just at Camden Yards for Orioles/Rockies and took a picture of the seats here. Beautiful and classy.

  • Steve | June 28, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    I have a picture of that too, here.

  • Big O | June 28, 2007 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    Lets try this scoreboard shot

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    I thought this was the current logo. Isn’t it?

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”110108″][quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    I thought this was the current logo. Isn’t it?[/quote]
    Are the Enron logos in Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros’ ballpark, of course) still there?

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”110118″][quote comment=”110108″][quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    I thought this was the current logo. Isn’t it?[/quote]
    Are the Enron logos in Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros’ ballpark, of course) still there?[/quote]

    No! All Enron items were removed and were included in the Enron auction back in 2002.

  • Donny | June 28, 2007 at 3:01 pm |

    Blue Jays pitcher Jordan De Jong’s name on his jersey is spelled with a small capital E followed by a space, something I’ve never seen before.

  • Jaye | June 28, 2007 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”110101″][quote comment=”109985″]Maybe Manny should worry more about going 0-5 and allowing the Sox to get swept by the Mariners than he should about his hair???[/quote]

    Yeah, his weird hair really cost the team in 2004. And now, with the Sox having the best record in baseball since May 13th, seriously, he should adopt a more Jeter-like, buttoned up (to the throat–ecchhhh) appearance. Then he and the Sox may finally find success.[/quote]

    Hahahaha! Wondering what one has to do with the other.

  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    The Pirates plan a walk out on Bob Walk bobblehead day this Saturday, to protest the team’s 15 year losing streaks….

    http://www.post-gaze...

  • schuby | June 28, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    Look at the right side of the page where it shows the starting pitchers. It looks like Randy Johnson still has the sticker on his cap.

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?

  • Jason G. | June 28, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”110126″]Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?[/quote]

    Congratulations to my favorite baseball player ever for number 500. As far as the Toroonto goes, he should have never been wearing that thing anyway. I have a feeling this will end up being one of those uni cameos Paul talked about a few weeks back. I know that image doesn’t quite compute in my head anyway.

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”110126″]Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?[/quote]
    Last time I was at a Blue Jay game, I picked up a program, on the cover was A.J. Burnett in motion and his jersey also read Toroonto. numbnuts merchandise geeks.

  • Chance | June 28, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”110108″][quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    I thought this was the current logo. Isn’t it?[/quote]
    Nope – this is.

    They changed the bird back in 1998.

    The Orioles’ site has a timeline of their logos here, you cen see the two side-by-side.

  • Big O | June 28, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”110108″][quote comment=”110102″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    The scoreboard still has the old birds on top[/quote]

    I thought this was the current logo. Isn’t it?[/quote]

    This is the current logo notice the bird has a more realistic head. I know it’s minor but there is a difference.

  • Anthony Verna | June 28, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”110126″]Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?[/quote]

    The Phillies jerseys are like that, too, so there’s an extra l that is buttoned over.

    Take a look here:

    http://news.yahoo.co...

  • Matthew S. | June 28, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”110073″][quote comment=”110061″]I think you’re missing the point. They are admitting they are a bunch of clowns. That the team is comparable to a circus.[/quote]

    (1) Seeing as how you are not a member of the ballclub and spent no time in their clubhouse, I’m not quite sure how you can make a statement about what they are saying or “admitting”.

    (2) And what does that message on their t-shirt have to do with their uniform? No one has answered that yet.

    This is not a Uni-Watch issue. Again, not liking the orange shirt because they should be wearing blue undershirts = a Uni-Watch issue. Not liking the orange shirt not because it’s aesthetically wrong but because of the graphic on the front that you cannot see because the jersey is buttoned over it and therefore doesn’t interfere with how the uniform looks on the playing field= not a Uni-Watch issue.

    Let me put it this way: If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because it breaks up the symmetry of the uni”, that to me is a Uni-Watch issue. If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because they are using it to mourn for Cory Lidle, who I didn’t really care much for”, (which is NOT my POV; I’m just using it as an example) that to me is not a Uni-Watch issue; you’re not really basing your dislike of the armband on how it affects the aesthetics of the uniform, but on your own personal politics and feelings toward the individual being mourned.

    So now, if someone says “I don’t like the orange shirts because of the graphic/message they have on them”, what does that have to do with the team’s uniform?[/quote]

    While normally I find myself agreeing with you Mr. Met, I find myself compelled to ask in this instance why you’re the arbiter of what’s relevant to talk about on this site all of the sudden? I think undershirts, whether you can see what’s written on them or not, are certainly part of the uniform (as per the Ted Lilly section of the blog this morning or as per the fact that Justin Morneau wears a hockey t shirt–a Canucks shirt I think–under his uniform). And that several of the Mets wore an orange t shirt with a clown on it is certainly noteworthy based upon that criteria.

  • Ian K | June 28, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”110123″]The Pirates plan a walk out on Bob Walk bobblehead day this Saturday, to protest the team’s 15 year losing streaks….

    http://www.post-gaze...

    I really don’t think it’s the actual Pirate organization that’s planning the walkout, looks like a grass roots project organized by fans.

  • jesse | June 28, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]

    I am actually surprised Pitt gets as much love as they do at Heinz Field. I am continually amazed that the Steelers let Pitt’s band out on the field in the rain (or at all considering how much use that field sees during football season) when they have a professional football game to play the next day. I am even more surprised that the NFL does not step in and put a stop to it before somebody gets hurt playing NFL football in a sandbox.

    Also, the WPIAL playoffs are going to out draw the Panthers this year. Have you seen that home schedule? The highlight is Grambling. Seriously. I think they should put Upper St. Clair’s logo on the seats, and let them play their home games there instead. They might sell more tickets.

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea!

  • Anthony Verna | June 28, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”110144″]Also, the WPIAL playoffs are going to out draw the Panthers this year. Have you seen that home schedule? The highlight is Grambling. Seriously. I think they should put Upper St. Clair’s logo on the seats, and let them play their home games there instead. They might sell more tickets.[/quote]

    *grumbles*
    Someone HAD to mention the high school of my first-ever (ex) gf.
    *keeps grumbling*

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?

  • Josh W. | June 28, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”109945″][quote comment=”109938″][quote comment=”109916″]At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.[/quote]

    Francona has problems with his circulation, which requires him to wear warm clothing over his jersey. We did get to see his #47–at the ring ceremony.[/quote]
    I think this at least looks a lot better than this and especially this. I still think it would look way better if he wore the fleece under the jersey, though.[/quote]

    Do I see Papi wearing Oakley Thumps in that first picture there? I believe so

  • Kip Whiffle | June 28, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.

  • Chris Sk | June 28, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.

  • Marty Met | June 28, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”110123″]The Pirates plan a walk out on Bob Walk bobblehead day this Saturday, to protest the team’s 15 year losing streaks….

    http://www.post-gaze...
    They should have walked out the first day the Buccos wore those damn awful tomato red vests.
    P.S. Mets fans should walk next time Shoenweis comes in to pitch.

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”110103″][quote comment=”110091″][quote comment=”110086″]An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well – us who Get It.

    If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?[/quote]
    The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.[/quote]

    I was actually just at Camden Yards for Orioles/Rockies and took a picture of the seats here. Beautiful and classy.[/quote]

    The seats at KeySpan Park in Coney Island have a similar design — an old-school ballplayer silhouette with the Dodgers’ “B” on one side and the Mets/Giants “NY” on the other. Can’t find a pic online; will take & post one next time I go…

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”110155″]While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

    No, Alexei Yashin wore #79. They probably had a pile of jerseys made up for the press conference before he was bought out as he was the captain.

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”110153″][quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.[/quote]

    My thought was that they’d wear them on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. Partly because teams have usually been wearing retros on T-Day in recent years, and partly because the Titans won all three T-Day games they played, while the Jets are (I think) 0-for-2.

    Only downside (potentially) is that the home blues with the white-gold-white UCLA shoulder stripes are much nicer than the stripeless home whites. Look here. Dallas would either have to wear its regular home whites or the white version of its 1960-63 throwback uniform.

    Either way, I’d be all for it. I’d also be fine with a NY Titans throwback day at home. As long as they NEVER, EVER wear the green pants, green jersey combo again.

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old!

  • PaddyWaggn | June 28, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    I’m also perturbed that “Not in Service” Pervis Ellison was left off the busts list. #1 pick 1989.

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”110165″][quote comment=”110153″][quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.[/quote]

    My thought was that they’d wear them on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. Partly because teams have usually been wearing retros on T-Day in recent years, and partly because the Titans won all three T-Day games they played, while the Jets are (I think) 0-for-2.

    Only downside (potentially) is that the home blues with the white-gold-white UCLA shoulder stripes are much nicer than the stripeless home whites. Look here. Dallas would either have to wear its regular home whites or the white version of its 1960-63 throwback uniform.

    Either way, I’d be all for it. I’d also be fine with a NY Titans throwback day at home. As long as they NEVER, EVER wear the green pants, green jersey combo again.[/quote]

    Sorry, that should read “stripeless road whites.”

  • Steve | June 28, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”110144″][quote comment=”110086″]

    I am actually surprised Pitt gets as much love as they do at Heinz Field. I am continually amazed that the Steelers let Pitt’s band out on the field in the rain (or at all considering how much use that field sees during football season) when they have a professional football game to play the next day. I am even more surprised that the NFL does not step in and put a stop to it before somebody gets hurt playing NFL football in a sandbox.

    Also, the WPIAL playoffs are going to out draw the Panthers this year. Have you seen that home schedule? The highlight is Grambling. Seriously. I think they should put Upper St. Clair’s logo on the seats, and let them play their home games there instead. They might sell more tickets.[/quote]

    I’m not sure if they can make the band not march, but since the field annually ranks among the league’s worst, I wouldn’t put it out of the question. Does anyone know if Pitt payed into Heinz Field when it was built? If so, maybe they have a clause or something where they have to let the band out.

    Regardless, you’d think they’d at least just spell “PITTSBURGH” in both endzones rather than the crazy crosshatches in the one. I remember when they tried to put the Panther head in the middle on a Saturday and Sunday the Steelers were playing on a field that you could still see it underneath.

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”110166″][quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green home jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old![/quote]

    That guy is also going to have a hard time trying to convince arena staff that he’s an actual player. :o)

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 4:14 pm |

    Here’s one for racing fans. I wonder who owns it?

  • SWC Susan | June 28, 2007 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote]Are the Enron logos in Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros’ ballpark, of course) still there?[/quote]

    [quote]
    No! All Enron items were removed and were included in the Enron auction back in 2002.[/quote]

    Guess the Ballpark at Union Station (I can still dream, can’t I?) had some foresight… they went with generic seat designs.

  • Christopher | June 28, 2007 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”110135″][quote comment=”110126″]Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?[/quote]

    The Phillies jerseys are like that, too, so there’s an extra l that is buttoned over.

    Take a look here:

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Why don’t they find a way to put one of the buttons right in the middle of the logo?

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    [slow day at work..] Lord Stanley’s Cup is in the house.

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”110175″]
    Why don’t they find a way to put one of the buttons right in the middle of the logo?[/quote]

    Or just remove the letters that overlap?

  • Kerry | June 28, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”109971″]count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

    Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

    I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…[/quote]
    Personally, I don’t really consider having a pretty small (probably white) swoosh on the players’ chests a “drawback”. Who outfitted the Bulldogs (and Lady Techsters) before?

  • Luke | June 28, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”110155″]While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

    I thought those jerseys may have been of Alexei Yashin. But, I don’t think he was ever their Captain, at least not last year. But, I could be wrong. Either way, him and his outlandish contract are also not on the team anymore, which is a shame because those jerseys and the contract would have gone perfect together.

  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”110142″][quote comment=”110123″]The Pirates plan a walk out on Bob Walk bobblehead day this Saturday, to protest the team’s 15 year losing streaks….

    http://www.post-gaze...

    I really don’t think it’s the actual Pirate organization that’s planning the walkout, looks like a grass roots project organized by fans.[/quote]

    Oops, I meant to put Pirates fans….

  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”110092″][quote comment=”110085″]I just watched Maria Sharapova’s match at Wimbledon. What the heck was she wearing? Her tennis outfit actually had wings on the back? I saw the swoosh, but I expected either a red bull or the Victoria’s Secret Angels wordmark.

    If I find a picture, I’ll link it later.[/quote]

    Here is a pic not the greatest though[/quote]

    People are saying she looked like a swan.

    http://www.dollymix....

    “Sharapova has been sporting a white dress with frills on the bottom and wing-like ones down the back, the latest in a series of creative outfits the keen designer has worn on court.”

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”110170″][quote comment=”110165″][quote comment=”110153″][quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.[/quote]

    My thought was that they’d wear them on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. Partly because teams have usually been wearing retros on T-Day in recent years, and partly because the Titans won all three T-Day games they played, while the Jets are (I think) 0-for-2.

    Only downside (potentially) is that the home blues with the white-gold-white UCLA shoulder stripes are much nicer than the stripeless home whites. Look here. Dallas would either have to wear its regular home whites or the white version of its 1960-63 throwback uniform.

    Either way, I’d be all for it. I’d also be fine with a NY Titans throwback day at home. As long as they NEVER, EVER wear the green pants, green jersey combo again.[/quote]

    Sorry, that should read “stripeless road whites.”[/quote]
    Not to be picky, but the NFL does not have home colors/road whites policy. The home team gets to choose its jersey and it is the responsibility of the away team to wear the “opposite” jersey, so that there may be a white team and a colored team. Many teams regularly choose colors at home, but the Cowboys and the Redskins go against the grain so that they can wear their “lucky” whites as frequently as possible.
    By the way, NFL alternates are only worn once or twice a year; those dates are arranged in advance. MLB, please take a cue! (Disclaimer: I am a Yankees fan, and perhaps because of this, I am strongly in favor of the baseball jersey matching the baseball pants.)

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”110175″][quote comment=”110135″][quote comment=”110126″]Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?[/quote]

    The Phillies jerseys are like that, too, so there’s an extra l that is buttoned over.

    Take a look here:

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Why don’t they find a way to put one of the buttons right in the middle of the logo?[/quote]

    If you look carefully, on the jerseys worn in the movie The Natural (an excellent design, BTW), there’s a button right in the middle of the “g” in “Knights.”

    I think there’s also a button in the “Y” in “New York” on the road jerseys, but I’d have to check…

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”110182″][quote comment=”110155″]While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

    I thought those jerseys may have been of Alexei Yashin. But, I don’t think he was ever their Captain, at least not last year. But, I could be wrong. Either way, him and his outlandish contract are also not on the team anymore, which is a shame because those jerseys and the contract would have gone perfect together.[/quote]

    I disagree. Yashin was the captain when he wasn’t in Nolan’s doghouse or the press box or the hospital ward. The Isles made him the captain because he’s a sulking man-child when he doesn’t get his way.

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”110181″][quote comment=”109971″]count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

    Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

    I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…[/quote]
    Personally, I don’t really consider having a pretty small (probably white) swoosh on the players’ chests a “drawback”. Who outfitted the Bulldogs (and Lady Techsters) before?[/quote]

    Adidas was the big shoe contract from 1999-2003, but before then and for the time after, it was Russle Athletic.

    As for my “drawback” comment, it was meant to be slightly sarcastic. :)

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”110185″][quote comment=”110170″][quote comment=”110165″][quote comment=”110153″][quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.[/quote]

    My thought was that they’d wear them on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. Partly because teams have usually been wearing retros on T-Day in recent years, and partly because the Titans won all three T-Day games they played, while the Jets are (I think) 0-for-2.

    Only downside (potentially) is that the home blues with the white-gold-white UCLA shoulder stripes are much nicer than the stripeless home whites. Look here. Dallas would either have to wear its regular home whites or the white version of its 1960-63 throwback uniform.

    Either way, I’d be all for it. I’d also be fine with a NY Titans throwback day at home. As long as they NEVER, EVER wear the green pants, green jersey combo again.[/quote]

    Sorry, that should read “stripeless road whites.”[/quote]
    Not to be picky, but the NFL does not have home colors/road whites policy. The home team gets to choose its jersey and it is the responsibility of the away team to wear the “opposite” jersey, so that there may be a white team and a colored team. Many teams regularly choose colors at home, but the Cowboys and the Redskins go against the grain so that they can wear their “lucky” whites as frequently as possible.
    By the way, NFL alternates are only worn once or twice a year; those dates are arranged in advance. MLB, please take a cue! (Disclaimer: I am a Yankees fan, and perhaps because of this, I am strongly in favor of the baseball jersey matching the baseball pants.)[/quote]

    Yea, I know, but I’d already referred to the blues as the “home blues,” so….

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”110181″][quote comment=”109971″]count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

    Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

    I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…[/quote]
    Personally, I don’t really consider having a pretty small (probably white) swoosh on the players’ chests a “drawback”. Who outfitted the Bulldogs (and Lady Techsters) before?[/quote]
    Russell Athletic, I think.
    [quote comment=”110182″][quote comment=”110155″]While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

    I thought those jerseys may have been of Alexei Yashin. But, I don’t think he was ever their Captain, at least not last year. But, I could be wrong. Either way, him and his outlandish contract are also not on the team anymore, which is a shame because those jerseys and the contract would have gone perfect together.[/quote]
    Yes, Alexei Yashin was the sorriest excuse ever for a captain last year.

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”110182″][quote comment=”110155″]While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

    I thought those jerseys may have been of Alexei Yashin. But, I don’t think he was ever their Captain, at least not last year. But, I could be wrong. Either way, him and his outlandish contract are also not on the team anymore, which is a shame because those jerseys and the contract would have gone perfect together.[/quote]

    Yes. He was the captain till he was traded, which made his “issues” even more painful for the fans.

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”110192″][quote comment=”110181″][quote comment=”109971″]count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

    Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

    I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…[/quote]
    Personally, I don’t really consider having a pretty small (probably white) swoosh on the players’ chests a “drawback”. Who outfitted the Bulldogs (and Lady Techsters) before?[/quote]
    Russell Athletic, I think.
    quote]

    Heh, I just posted a respons saying that, but it was eaten. Louisiana tech was Russell Athletic till about 1999 when we went to Adidas. That lasted till abotu 2003 and Tech went back to Russell till about 3 monthss ago when they signed with Nike.

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”110192″][quote comment=”110181″][quote comment=”109971″]count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

    Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

    I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…[/quote]
    Personally, I don’t really consider having a pretty small (probably white) swoosh on the players’ chests a “drawback”. Who outfitted the Bulldogs (and Lady Techsters) before?[/quote]
    Russell Athletic, I think.
    [/quote]

    Heh, I just posted a respons saying that, but it was eaten. Louisiana tech was Russell Athletic till about 1999 when we went to Adidas. That lasted till abotu 2003 and Tech went back to Russell till about 3 monthss ago when they signed with Nike.

    crap! fixing the quote

  • James P. | June 28, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”110174″][quote]Are the Enron logos in Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros’ ballpark, of course) still there?[/quote]

    [quote]
    No! All Enron items were removed and were included in the Enron auction back in 2002.[/quote]

    Guess the Ballpark at Union Station (I can still dream, can’t I?) had some foresight… they went with generic seat designs.[/quote]

    Yeah, they were smart enough to know that a corporate sponser might not always be around.

  • Broker75 | June 28, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”110189″][quote comment=”110182″][quote comment=”110155″]While reading Paul’s ESPN article he showed the proposed new Islander’s jersey (sweater?). Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    http://farm2.static....

    I thought those jerseys may have been of Alexei Yashin. But, I don’t think he was ever their Captain, at least not last year. But, I could be wrong. Either way, him and his outlandish contract are also not on the team anymore, which is a shame because those jerseys and the contract would have gone perfect together.[/quote]

    I disagree. Yashin was the captain when he wasn’t in Nolan’s doghouse or the press box or the hospital ward. The Isles made him the captain because he’s a sulking man-child when he doesn’t get his way.[/quote]
    I love those jerseys. Both home & away.

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”110186″][quote comment=”110175″][quote comment=”110135″][quote comment=”110126″]Congrats to Frank Thomas on hitting his 500th homerun today in the Metrodome vs. the Twins. It was fitting that he hit it at the Dome considering he hit his first career home run at the ballpark off Gary Wayne while with the Chicago White Sox on Aug. 28, 1990.

    The reason I post this? Check out this photo of Thomas taken today. The “O” is another reason those Jays jerseys have got to go. Toroonto, anyone?[/quote]

    The Phillies jerseys are like that, too, so there’s an extra l that is buttoned over.

    Take a look here:

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Why don’t they find a way to put one of the buttons right in the middle of the logo?[/quote]

    If you look carefully, on the jerseys worn in the movie The Natural (an excellent design, BTW), there’s a button right in the middle of the “g” in “Knights.”

    I think there’s also a button in the “Y” in “New York” on the road jerseys, but I’d have to check…[/quote]

    I was actually thinking about this topic the last time I was watching the Yankees play. They have nothing that stretches across the front of their home jeresy, yet they still have the offset button and I didn’t know why. It should only be offset if you are trying to avoid putting the button or the eye through a logo or wordmark.

  • Jill | June 28, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”110174″][quote]Are the Enron logos in Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros’ ballpark, of course) still there?[/quote]

    [quote]
    No! All Enron items were removed and were included in the Enron auction back in 2002.[/quote]

    Guess the Ballpark at Union Station (I can still dream, can’t I?) had some foresight… they went with generic seat designs.[/quote]

    Even though there are no more Enron logos at the Park, there are delivery trucks that drive around Houston with ads for the Astros that say Enron Field on them. They have gigantic Astros tickets on the trucks. Just this week I saw one driving in to work.

  • Dwight | June 28, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    These are eyesores?

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    I like the old school for baseball, but I love the ‘Nique hawk unis. Am I alone?

  • todd krevanchi | June 28, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”110207″]These are eyesores?

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    I like the old school for baseball, but I love the ‘Nique hawk unis. Am I alone?[/quote]

    agreed. those hawks uni’s were inovative and way ahead of their time.

  • Anthony Verna | June 28, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”110208″][quote comment=”110207″]These are eyesores?

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    I like the old school for baseball, but I love the ‘Nique hawk unis. Am I alone?[/quote]

    agreed. those hawks uni’s were inovative and way ahead of their time.[/quote]

    I think the Mutombo jerseys were the eyesores.

    http://www.nba.com/m...

  • possum | June 28, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”110073″][quote comment=”110061″]I think you’re missing the point. They are admitting they are a bunch of clowns. That the team is comparable to a circus.[/quote]

    (1) Seeing as how you are not a member of the ballclub and spent no time in their clubhouse, I’m not quite sure how you can make a statement about what they are saying or “admitting”.

    (2) And what does that message on their t-shirt have to do with their uniform? No one has answered that yet.

    This is not a Uni-Watch issue. Again, not liking the orange shirt because they should be wearing blue undershirts = a Uni-Watch issue. Not liking the orange shirt not because it’s aesthetically wrong but because of the graphic on the front that you cannot see because the jersey is buttoned over it and therefore doesn’t interfere with how the uniform looks on the playing field= not a Uni-Watch issue.

    Let me put it this way: If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because it breaks up the symmetry of the uni”, that to me is a Uni-Watch issue. If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because they are using it to mourn for Cory Lidle, who I didn’t really care much for”, (which is NOT my POV; I’m just using it as an example) that to me is not a Uni-Watch issue; you’re not really basing your dislike of the armband on how it affects the aesthetics of the uniform, but on your own personal politics and feelings toward the individual being mourned.

    So now, if someone says “I don’t like the orange shirts because of the graphic/message they have on them”, what does that have to do with the team’s uniform?[/quote]
    (1) You don’t know if I’m a member of the ballclub or not.
    (2) If I were a member of the Mets, I’d probably just go ahead and hang myself.
    (3) It is uni-related if more than one of them are wearing it.
    (4) GO BRAVES

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | June 28, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”110165″][quote comment=”110153″][quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.[/quote]

    My thought was that they’d wear them on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. Partly because teams have usually been wearing retros on T-Day in recent years, and partly because the Titans won all three T-Day games they played, while the Jets are (I think) 0-for-2.

    Only downside (potentially) is that the home blues with the white-gold-white UCLA shoulder stripes are much nicer than the stripeless home whites. Look here. Dallas would either have to wear its regular home whites or the white version of its 1960-63 throwback uniform.

    Either way, I’d be all for it. I’d also be fine with a NY Titans throwback day at home. As long as they NEVER, EVER wear the green pants, green jersey combo again.[/quote]

    If memory serves, didn’t the Bears play the Cowboys on Turkey Day a couple years back? And didn’t the Bears wear the orange throwbacks while the Cowboys wore their blue (home) throwbacks?

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | June 28, 2007 at 5:13 pm |

    Refer to quote #151 – what am I thinking?? The NFL would never let two opposing teams wear dark blue uni’s!!

  • Eric | June 28, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”110166″][quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old![/quote]

    Is Kane throwing a baseball or the shot put in that pic? That’s gotta be the worst form by an athlete attempting another sport I’ve ever seen!

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”110218″][quote comment=”110166″][quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old![/quote]

    Is Kane throwing a baseball or the shot put in that pic? That’s gotta be the worst form by an athlete attempting another sport I’ve ever seen![/quote]

    Caron Butler, NBA player for the Washington Wizards, threw a first pitch that landed about 20 feet in front of him. That was pathetic.

  • GoTerriers | June 28, 2007 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”110218″][quote comment=”110166″][quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old![/quote]

    Is Kane throwing a baseball or the shot put in that pic? That’s gotta be the worst form by an athlete attempting another sport I’ve ever seen![/quote]
    Yeah . .I’m guessing he bounced it . . .not great extension. Front shoulder looks like it flew open and he over rotated.

    Good thing he’s a hockey player, ’cause he sure aint gonna help get the Cubbies to the World Series.

  • UW justin | June 28, 2007 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”110223″][quote comment=”110218″][quote comment=”110166″][quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old![/quote]

    Is Kane throwing a baseball or the shot put in that pic? That’s gotta be the worst form by an athlete attempting another sport I’ve ever seen![/quote]
    Yeah . .I’m guessing he bounced it . . .not great extension. Front shoulder looks like it flew open and he over rotated.

    Good thing he’s a hockey player, ’cause he sure aint gonna help get the Cubbies to the World Series.[/quote]

    But he could possibly be their best option at 5th starter…

  • S Bennett | June 28, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    None. And, BTW, the Isles won their first cup in 1980.

    There was a time when the Isles wore orange numbers on their shirts (these pics are of throwbacks, not the original, obviously) and there were the orange alts and hideous fishsticks shirts and a bastard hybrid, but nothing like the unofficial new ones.

    At first blush, it looks like an attempt to go with Red Wings-Style alternate sleeves. It ain’t working.

  • Teebz | June 28, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”110230″]Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    None. And, BTW, the Isles won their first cup in 1980.

    There was a time when the Isles wore orange numbers on their shirts (these pics are of throwbacks, not the original, obviously) and there were the orange alts and hideous fishsticks shirts and a bastard hybrid, but nothing like the unofficial new ones.

    At first blush, it looks like an attempt to go with Red Wings-Style alternate sleeves. It ain’t working.[/quote]

    Hideous? Please… that jersey was light years ahead of its time. ;o)

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”110230″]Is there any chance this is some sort of tribute to the 1979 team that won the Cup? You can only see the number on 2 of the jerseys and they are both 79. Somebody with more hockey knowledge may know what the Islanders wore that year. Any similarities?

    None. And, BTW, the Isles won their first cup in 1980.

    There was a time when the Isles wore orange numbers on their shirts (these pics are of throwbacks, not the original, obviously) and there were the orange alts and hideous fishsticks shirts and a bastard hybrid, but nothing like the unofficial new ones.

    At first blush, it looks like an attempt to go with Red Wings-Style alternate sleeves. It ain’t working.[/quote]

    You know…those bastard hybrids were awful, but at least management was listening to the fans and tried to make the best of a bad situation (eventually switching back to the original design, with a few tweaks). I always felt good about that.

    How awesome was Bossy.

  • Shaftman | June 28, 2007 at 5:54 pm |

    Paul or Vince…
    My posts keep getting eaten again…please help (I’m only using a few links in them, I swear).

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 28, 2007 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”110215″][quote comment=”110165″][quote comment=”110153″][quote comment=”110147″][quote comment=”109914″]I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?[/quote]

    HEY! That was MY idea![/quote]

    I received an e-mail back from the Jets that said the team definitely will wear the Titans gold and blue throwback uniforms for one home game this season.[/quote]

    My thought was that they’d wear them on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas. Partly because teams have usually been wearing retros on T-Day in recent years, and partly because the Titans won all three T-Day games they played, while the Jets are (I think) 0-for-2.

    Only downside (potentially) is that the home blues with the white-gold-white UCLA shoulder stripes are much nicer than the stripeless home whites. Look here. Dallas would either have to wear its regular home whites or the white version of its 1960-63 throwback uniform.

    Either way, I’d be all for it. I’d also be fine with a NY Titans throwback day at home. As long as they NEVER, EVER wear the green pants, green jersey combo again.[/quote]

    If memory serves, didn’t the Bears play the Cowboys on Turkey Day a couple years back? And didn’t the Bears wear the orange throwbacks while the Cowboys wore their blue (home) throwbacks?[/quote]

    There have been a few T-Day games where both teams have work dark-colored throwback unis, but they’ve always been different colors; Patriots-Lions (red vs. blue) and the Bears-Cowboys game you mentioned (orange vs. blue) immediately leap to mind. They couldn’t very well do that, though, if both teams had blue jerseys.

    The whole white-vs.-dark color thing is a product of the TV era; in the old days you’d see red-vs.-blue or somesuch all the time. Early black & white TVs obviously could not show that, hence one team would always wear white. There’s really no significant need for it anymore, so long as the jersey colors are sufficiently different to be distinguishable; in a Raiders-Steelers, Jets-Packers, Chiefs-49ers or Patriots-Cowboys game, for instance, one team would have to wear white.

  • S Bennett | June 28, 2007 at 6:00 pm |

    Hideous? Please… that jersey was light years ahead of its time. ;o)[/quote]

    Teebz, you know a lot about hockey stuff, I’ll grant you that. But on this one….

  • SWC Susan | June 28, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”110205″][quote comment=”110174″][quote]Are the Enron logos in Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros’ ballpark, of course) still there?[/quote]

    [quote]
    No! All Enron items were removed and were included in the Enron auction back in 2002.[/quote]

    Guess the Ballpark at Union Station (I can still dream, can’t I?) had some foresight… they went with generic seat designs.[/quote]

    Even though there are no more Enron logos at the Park, there are delivery trucks that drive around Houston with ads for the Astros that say Enron Field on them. They have gigantic Astros tickets on the trucks. Just this week I saw one driving in to work.[/quote]

    I think they are Gallery Furniture trucks. I have seen others from maybe… car races? that are years old.

  • Kyle at IU | June 28, 2007 at 6:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”110171″][quote comment=”110144″][quote comment=”110086″]

    I am actually surprised Pitt gets as much love as they do at Heinz Field. I am continually amazed that the Steelers let Pitt’s band out on the field in the rain (or at all considering how much use that field sees during football season) when they have a professional football game to play the next day. I am even more surprised that the NFL does not step in and put a stop to it before somebody gets hurt playing NFL football in a sandbox.

    Also, the WPIAL playoffs are going to out draw the Panthers this year. Have you seen that home schedule? The highlight is Grambling. Seriously. I think they should put Upper St. Clair’s logo on the seats, and let them play their home games there instead. They might sell more tickets.[/quote]

    I’m not sure if they can make the band not march, but since the field annually ranks among the league’s worst, I wouldn’t put it out of the question. Does anyone know if Pitt payed into Heinz Field when it was built? If so, maybe they have a clause or something where they have to let the band out.

    Regardless, you’d think they’d at least just spell “PITTSBURGH” in both endzones rather than the crazy crosshatches in the one. I remember when they tried to put the Panther head in the middle on a Saturday and Sunday the Steelers were playing on a field that you could still see it underneath.[/quote]

    First off, as a marching band guy myself, it would be absurd to somehow prohibit the band from taking the field to improve the field conditions. I think the Rooney’s are smart enough to know how big a part of college football the band is. Besides, they should’ve just given Pitt a new stadium.

    Now, if field conditions are really that bad, rip it up and put the fieldturf down. I’ve been on that stuff in all sorts of weather conditions and, apart from having a bunch of wet, rubber pellets stuck to your clothes, there is nothing wrong with the stuff.

  • Brett | June 28, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    So, if MLB is forcing the Mets to wear the new craptastic BP hats, are they forcing the Angels to wear them as well, or are they letting them use last years still?

  • Chad G | June 28, 2007 at 6:44 pm |

    First off, as a marching band guy myself, it would be absurd to somehow prohibit the band from taking the field to improve the field conditions. I think the Rooney’s are smart enough to know how big a part of college football the band is. Besides, they should’ve just given Pitt a new stadium.

    Now, if field conditions are really that bad, rip it up and put the fieldturf down. I’ve been on that stuff in all sorts of weather conditions and, apart from having a bunch of wet, rubber pellets stuck to your clothes, there is nothing wrong with the stuff.

    When I was in the Blue Band at Penn State they didn’t let us march on the stadium’s field when it was raining. That field is immaculate though. I can totaly understand them no letting us march too, because after a few days of practice our practice field would look like graph paper.

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”110249″]So, if MLB is forcing the Mets to wear the new craptastic BP hats, are they forcing the Angels to wear them as well, or are they letting them use last years still?[/quote]
    How could they? New Era can’t even enforce the wool caps and the polyester caps. I guess you can’t wear game hats during practice, and no practice caps during games (that means you, Kenny Rogers!) Besides, the Angels NEVER EVER wore the do-rag caps.
    Not to pile on, but those hats are pathetically awful. I tried one on once. With the inconsistent feel around the circumference of the cap, it felt like I had holes in the cap. Stupid side panels. They look dumb and feel bad.

  • Manzell | June 28, 2007 at 7:38 pm |

    Anyone notice – the Jersey the folks in the Blazer’s war room held up with Oden’s name on it was #52? What’s the significance?

  • Chad G | June 28, 2007 at 7:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”110279″]Anyone notice – the Jersey the folks in the Blazer’s war room held up with Oden’s name on it was #52? What’s the significance?[/quote]

    Oden said yesterday that, that is what he wanted his number to be. See comments made earlier in the day

  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 8:08 pm |

    Anybody know about this sports medicine patch on Keith Bullock’s jersey?

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Chris | June 28, 2007 at 8:12 pm |

    I really wish the Devils would adopt this jersey as their new jersey next year. Replace the green with black and it’s classic.

  • susan | June 28, 2007 at 8:22 pm |

    Lance Berkman going with the pajama look tonight… Odd since he always shows sock.

  • susan | June 28, 2007 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”110292″]Lance Berkman going with the pajama look tonight… Odd since he always shows sock.[/quote]

    Oh… guess he wore the pajama style the other night for his 11th HR.

  • allen | June 28, 2007 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”109963″][quote comment=”109953″]I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.[/quote]

    when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…[/quote]

    bobby cox does.

  • Johnny O | June 28, 2007 at 8:38 pm |

    Has anyone else seen Jokim Noah at the NBA Draft? Holy Crap!!!!! What is he wearing? It is kind of cool, but kind of dorky…

    Noah at draft
    Noah again
    Noah Old School bow tie

  • Johnny O | June 28, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    Sorry Gator fans… it obviously should be Joakim Noah. I can’t spell today.

  • possum | June 28, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”110286″]Anybody know about this sports medicine patch on Keith Bullock’s jersey?

    http://sportsillustr...
    Obviously a sponsor of the team…

  • Luke Larson | June 28, 2007 at 8:44 pm |

    joakim noah looks EXACTLY like bizzy bone.

    also… the hawks new home jerseys look pretty sharp in person.

  • Sam | June 28, 2007 at 8:44 pm |

    Did anyone else see those new Sixers jerseys behind Sal Palantonio? Red jerseys that say “Phila” across the front? Are these new?

  • Matthew S. | June 28, 2007 at 8:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”110292″]Lance Berkman going with the pajama look tonight… Odd since he always shows sock.[/quote]

    Bill Brown and Jim Deshaies mentioned this in the first inning (along with the fact that Berkman hit a 430 ft. HR in Milwaukee yesterday with his socks up) and again in the third inning with Jeff Bagwell in the booth. All three talked about how several Astros often hike up the pants legs and show sock when the team is in a slump, but that they appear to be doing the opposite now. I’ve never seen Berkman’s pants so baggy, even when he wears them down.

  • Robert | June 28, 2007 at 9:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”110300″]Has anyone else seen Jokim Noah at the NBA Draft? Holy Crap!!!!! What is he wearing? It is kind of cool, but kind of dorky…

    Noah at draft
    Noah again
    Noah Old School bow tie[/quote]

    I vote for not cool, just dorky.

  • GoTerriers | June 28, 2007 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”110315″][quote comment=”110300″]Has anyone else seen Jokim Noah at the NBA Draft? Holy Crap!!!!! What is he wearing? It is kind of cool, but kind of dorky…

    Noah at draft
    Noah again
    Noah Old School bow tie[/quote]

    I vote for not cool, just dorky.[/quote]

    He’s got a whole Sideshow Bob thing going on too, which makes it look even worse!

  • Jim | June 28, 2007 at 9:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”110208″][quote comment=”110207″]These are eyesores?

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    I like the old school for baseball, but I love the ‘Nique hawk unis. Am I alone?[/quote]

    agreed. those hawks uni’s were inovative and way ahead of their time.[/quote]

    OK, this may not be uni-related per se, but I LOVE the “columns” outside the Hawks stadium shown at the top of the website! Very inventive and distinctive, without being in your face.

  • Andy from KC | June 28, 2007 at 9:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”110315″][quote comment=”110300″]Has anyone else seen Jokim Noah at the NBA Draft? Holy Crap!!!!! What is he wearing? It is kind of cool, but kind of dorky…

    Noah at draft
    Noah again
    Noah Old School bow tie[/quote]

    I vote for not cool, just dorky.[/quote]

    I think he’s trying to make some kind of statement, and that statement is either A) “I got dressed in the dark” or B) “someone shot me out of a cannon into a Salvation Army thrift store.”

  • Flip | June 28, 2007 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”110207″]These are eyesores?

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    I like the old school for baseball, but I love the ‘Nique hawk unis. Am I alone?[/quote]

    The best old school uniforms are tried and true classics. They work. There’s nothing wrong with being radical. The’Nique hawk uniforms were terrific. The Warrior’s cable car & Golden Gate unis were cool. Unfortunately, not all innovative uniforms make the cut.

  • Flip | June 28, 2007 at 9:42 pm |
  • Joey Guns | June 28, 2007 at 9:44 pm |

    Does anyone remember these specific ones??

    I don’t….

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”110307″]Did anyone else see those new Sixers jerseys behind Sal Palantonio? Red jerseys that say “Phila” across the front? Are these new?[/quote]
    Special occasion jerseys last year (for Valentine’s Day) (perhaps the year before that as well), now officially an alternate jersey.

  • Stuby | June 28, 2007 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”110331″]Does anyone remember these specific ones??

    I don’t….

    http://www.youtube.c...
    Why would the Cabage Patch Kid have a Mets uni and the ballplayers all be wearing ‘Vets’ jerseys. That’s just dumb.

  • Ben | June 28, 2007 at 10:28 pm |

    Chicago White Sox right outfielder And Gonzales played tonight with his left back pocket hanging out.

  • Matthew S. | June 28, 2007 at 10:36 pm |

    Craig Biggio just hit his 3,000th career hit. As for memoribilia, I can’t imagine him giving up his batting helmet since he’s so particular about how it looks and is broken in.

  • susan | June 28, 2007 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”110342″]Craig Biggio just hit his 3,000th career hit. As for memoribilia, I can’t imagine him giving up his batting helmet since he’s so particular about how it looks and is broken in.[/quote]

    They’ve got the ball…

  • Brendan | June 28, 2007 at 10:52 pm |

    The Kings still had their “old” jersey on hand at the draft. The purple hemline is clearly still there.

  • Brendan | June 28, 2007 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”110304″][quote comment=”110286″]Anybody know about this sports medicine patch on Keith Bullock’s jersey?

    http://sportsillustr...
    Obviously a sponsor of the team…[/quote]

    None of the other teams have any sort of sponsor patches, though. I doubt the NFL would let only one team do it.

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 10:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”110350″][quote comment=”110304″][quote comment=”110286″]Anybody know about this sports medicine patch on Keith Bullock’s jersey?

    http://sportsillustr...
    Obviously a sponsor of the team…[/quote]

    None of the other teams have any sort of sponsor patches, though. I doubt the NFL would let only one team do it.[/quote]
    Can’t figure out how the Titans could get away with that. That patch used to be Adelphia (a cable TV provider).

  • greg larson | June 28, 2007 at 11:04 pm |

    i hate the shortsleeve wind shirts and neck logoed sweatshirts the managers are wearing. Such an insult to the game. Jim Leyland looks bad enopugh without wearing that ugly thing. Grady Litt;le looks like and old drunk sitting in the la dugout with that blue sweatshirt.

  • patrick | June 28, 2007 at 11:17 pm |

    From deadspin comments about the Silna brothers who are STEALING from the nba…. great, story.

    “This story comes up every couple years, and I’m always most impressed by how awesome the team names were for a few of the departed teams, especially the Spirits (also, at the risk of sounding like Uni Watch, that logo rules). I mean, the Kentucky Colonels? How sweet is that?”

  • Mike Engle | June 28, 2007 at 11:27 pm |

    TURN OFF BOLD!

  • Bob A | June 28, 2007 at 11:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”110351″][quote comment=”110350″][quote comment=”110304″][quote comment=”110286″]Anybody know about this sports medicine patch on Keith Bullock’s jersey?

    http://sportsillustr...
    Obviously a sponsor of the team…[/quote]

    None of the other teams have any sort of sponsor patches, though. I doubt the NFL would let only one team do it.[/quote]
    Can’t figure out how the Titans could get away with that. That patch used to be Adelphia (a cable TV provider).[/quote]

    Never underestimate Bud Adams’ ability to turn a dollar.

  • Mr. Met | June 29, 2007 at 12:13 am |

    [quote comment=”110212″](1) You don’t know if I’m a member of the ballclub or not.
    (2) If I were a member of the Mets, I’d probably just go ahead and hang myself.
    (3) It is uni-related if more than one of them are wearing it.
    (4) GO BRAVES[/quote]

    (1) Referencing the ballclub as “they” and “their club” gives it away. Your pathetic shoutout to the Braves confirms it.
    (2) If I were a member of the Braves and knew that my team would dominate in the regular season but fold like a cheap deck of cards in the playoffs, I’d probably just go ahead and hang myself.
    (3) Since the point I am trying to make is clearly too advanced for your thought process, I won’t bother repeatng myself.
    (4) That’s real original. “Go Braves”? Where, home for the winter? Because the Magic 8-Ball sees no playoffs in your immediate future.

  • Mr. Met | June 29, 2007 at 1:06 am |

    [quote comment=”110139″]While normally I find myself agreeing with you Mr. Met, I find myself compelled to ask in this instance why you’re the arbiter of what’s relevant to talk about on this site all of the sudden? I think undershirts, whether you can see what’s written on them or not, are certainly part of the uniform (as per the Ted Lilly section of the blog this morning or as per the fact that Justin Morneau wears a hockey t shirt–a Canucks shirt I think–under his uniform). And that several of the Mets wore an orange t shirt with a clown on it is certainly noteworthy based upon that criteria.[/quote]

    “Arbiter of Relevance”? I like the sound of that!

    When someone tells me that I’m missing the point and that they are admiting to being a bunch of clowns, I fail to see what that has to do with the uniforms. I feel this whole “issue” is one of the message on the shirt and not how it affects the aesthetic of the uniform; it couldn’t possibly be an aesthetics issue, because the message on the shirt doesn’t interfere with the aesthetics of the uniform on the field. All you see is a 1-inch sliver of orange at the top of the uniform, which they have been doing now for over 20 years.

    I thought that saying “to me, this is not uni-related” would show that I think it’s not uni-related; your mileage may vary. But my question is this, and no one has answered it yet: You can’t see what’s on their undershirts. It doesn’t interfere with the uniform. Orange is a color that the Mets have worn underneath their jerseys in the past, going back at least 20 years. So what does a clown graphic, that you can’t see, that is under their jerseys, that is not interfering with the uniform, have to do with the Mets’ uniforms? How is it affecting the aesthetics of their uniforms? That’s all I’m asking.

  • joe | June 29, 2007 at 1:12 am |

    [quote comment=”110166″][quote comment=”110156″][quote comment=”110149″]I just want to clearify, this jersey is no longer being worn by the Wild?[/quote]

    Nope. The red alternate sold better than the green hone jerseys, so the red alternate becomes the new home jersey in 2007-08.[/quote]
    cool, thanks, Hey Teebz, recognize this guy? He’s gonna have a tough time ordering alcohol for dinner, looks like he’s only 16yrs old![/quote]
    that because he’s only 18

  • joe | June 29, 2007 at 1:22 am |

    [quote comment=”110338″][quote comment=”110331″]Does anyone remember these specific ones??

    I don’t….

    http://www.youtube.c...
    Why would the Cabage Patch Kid have a Mets uni and the ballplayers all be wearing ‘Vets’ jerseys. That’s just dumb.[/quote]

    The toys had paid for the rights to use the logo, the advertising did not.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | June 29, 2007 at 8:33 am |

    [quote comment=”110373″][quote comment=”110212″](1) You don’t know if I’m a member of the ballclub or not.
    (2) If I were a member of the Mets, I’d probably just go ahead and hang myself.
    (3) It is uni-related if more than one of them are wearing it.
    (4) GO BRAVES[/quote]

    (1) Referencing the ballclub as “they” and “their club” gives it away. Your pathetic shoutout to the Braves confirms it.
    (2) If I were a member of the Braves and knew that my team would dominate in the regular season but fold like a cheap deck of cards in the playoffs, I’d probably just go ahead and hang myself.
    (3) Since the point I am trying to make is clearly too advanced for your thought process, I won’t bother repeatng myself.
    (4) That’s real original. “Go Braves”? Where, home for the winter? Because the Magic 8-Ball sees no playoffs in your immediate future.[/quote]

    “Go Braves” is only the first part of the official Atlanta cheer, followed by “……and take the Falcons with you”

  • Scott Jenkins | June 29, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    Are these new Buccaneer uniforms for real??

  • Scott Jenkins | June 29, 2007 at 10:59 am |
  • Matthew S. | June 29, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”110376″][quote comment=”110139″]While normally I find myself agreeing with you Mr. Met, I find myself compelled to ask in this instance why you’re the arbiter of what’s relevant to talk about on this site all of the sudden? I think undershirts, whether you can see what’s written on them or not, are certainly part of the uniform (as per the Ted Lilly section of the blog this morning or as per the fact that Justin Morneau wears a hockey t shirt–a Canucks shirt I think–under his uniform). And that several of the Mets wore an orange t shirt with a clown on it is certainly noteworthy based upon that criteria.[/quote]

    “Arbiter of Relevance”? I like the sound of that!

    When someone tells me that I’m missing the point and that they are admiting to being a bunch of clowns, I fail to see what that has to do with the uniforms. I feel this whole “issue” is one of the message on the shirt and not how it affects the aesthetic of the uniform; it couldn’t possibly be an aesthetics issue, because the message on the shirt doesn’t interfere with the aesthetics of the uniform on the field. All you see is a 1-inch sliver of orange at the top of the uniform, which they have been doing now for over 20 years.

    I thought that saying “to me, this is not uni-related” would show that I think it’s not uni-related; your mileage may vary. But my question is this, and no one has answered it yet: You can’t see what’s on their undershirts. It doesn’t interfere with the uniform. Orange is a color that the Mets have worn underneath their jerseys in the past, going back at least 20 years. So what does a clown graphic, that you can’t see, that is under their jerseys, that is not interfering with the uniform, have to do with the Mets’ uniforms? How is it affecting the aesthetics of their uniforms? That’s all I’m asking.[/quote]

    That’s fine and I’m not saying you’re wrong in your estimation that a portion of the uniform that can’t be seen isn’t as important as those parts which can be, but it’s still fun to talk about it, especially on a site where the whole idea is to obsess over details; both seen and unseen.

  • thetook (stan) | June 29, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    nlf europa has folded…

    http://sports.espn.g...