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Laborious Day

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Cooked up a storm yesterday, beginning with the smoked duck you see pictured above (here’s a larger view and a different angle). That steak and veal chop you see there also made their way onto the grill, plus we had Carolina-style ribs, crisp-skinned pork belly, and roasted clams (forgot to photograph those), with peach pie and nectarine/mascarpone torte for dessert, all of which seemed to please the assembled masses. A very good day indeed.

Have fun this afternoon at the Bolsehvik Workers’ Parade, or the Tea Party Gun Show, or however you choose to spend the day. Me, I’ll be busy digesting. — Paul

 

92 comments to Laborious Day

  • subway | September 7, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    Dig the hot dog and mustard t shirt Paul. Where do you get one of those?

  • Stan the Man | September 7, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    Paul,

    DELICIOUS…!!!

    Have a great Labor Day, gang!!!

    Stan

  • MH | September 7, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    So, Paul, I take it you’re not a Vegan ;-)

  • Tris Wykes | September 7, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    The “assembled masses” look freaky cool.

  • Paul Lukas | September 7, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”346213″]Dig the hot dog and mustard t shirt Paul. Where do you get one of those?[/quote]

    I linked to it just a few days ago, but here it is again:
    http://www.heavytees...

  • Teebz | September 7, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”346213″]Dig the hot dog and mustard t shirt Paul. Where do you get one of those?[/quote]

    The link as to where to get one is in the comments on September 1 or 2. I didn’t feel like looking, though.

  • leon | September 7, 2009 at 10:00 am |

    always wondered what became of this guy :)

    http://video.google....

  • bartusball | September 7, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    Paul,

    I know you posted it before, but what smoker do you use. I have one but it’s a litte too small for my liking. I can’t smoke but some ribs, certainly not big enough for ribs, a duck, and pork at the same time. Anyway your picnic looked very yummy, the hot dog and mustard shirt was the capper!

  • JimV19 | September 7, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    If I hadn’t had so much pizza and burgers yesterday, your photos might have made me very hungry. At least I worked some of it off playing wiffleball (sorry, no pics of the “unis”). Today it’s the beaches of Lake Erie, followed eventually by more food. Hope everyone had a great weekend – enjoy your Labor Day!

  • Paul Lukas | September 7, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”346220″]Paul,

    I know you posted it before, but what smoker do you use. I have one but it’s a litte too small for my liking. I can’t smoke but some ribs, certainly not big enough for ribs, a duck, and pork at the same time. Anyway your picnic looked very yummy, the hot dog and mustard shirt was the capper![/quote]

    I have the Big Green Egg. For the record, though, I didn’t smoke everything at once — I also have a conventional grill.

  • Greg B. | September 7, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”346219″]always wondered what became of this guy :)

    http://video.google....

    Hehehe, I was thinking the exact same thing. Interesting-looking group of friends. The girls are cute though…

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    Was checking something at Internet Movie Database and stumbled on this. Wonder what the unis look like? Buster Crabbe’s in it, too (Olympic swimmer who played Tarzan, Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers in the old cliffhangers and “Captain Gallant of the Foreign Legion” on TV).
    http://www.imdb.com/...

    —Ricko

  • Chris in Nashville | September 7, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    Paul, your friends are a lot cooler than mine.

  • LI Phil | September 7, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    off to a bolshevik gun show now

    catch all y’all later, comrades

  • mike 2 | September 7, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    1. In the crisp-skinned pork belly photo, what is the cutter at the top of the cutting board, with the green handle? I’ve been looking for something like that.

    2. My favourite smoker ever was made of an old refrigerator. If you can get a very old fridge with metal rather than plastic inside, they’re not that hard to convert. Use the (metal) crisper for the fire, racks for holding the meat, absolutely perfect. I smoked about a million pounds of pickerel and duck in one when I lived in North Ontario, sold it when I moved back to the city.

  • Paul Lukas | September 7, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”346228″]1. In the crisp-skinned pork belly photo, what is the cutter at the top of the cutting board, with the green handle? I’ve been looking for something like that.[/quote]

    It’s a pizza cutter:
    http://www.amazon.co...

    Comes in many colors. Got it as an Xmas gift from my Forewords partner Liz Clayton last winter.

  • Mike Engle | September 7, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”346229″][quote comment=”346228″]1. In the crisp-skinned pork belly photo, what is the cutter at the top of the cutting board, with the green handle? I’ve been looking for something like that.[/quote]

    It’s a pizza cutter:
    http://www.amazon.co...

    Comes in many colors. Got it as an Xmas gift from my Forewords partner Liz Clayton last winter.[/quote]
    Also in that picture is a santoku knife.
    That’s the first and last time I’ll point out something Asian on Uni Watch before Jeremy Brahm.

  • Kevin W | September 7, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    Nice job with the Budweiser kosher salt, new product from them?

  • leon | September 7, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    wondering if you were thinking at all about Oregon as you prepared and consumed le duck.

  • Mike Engle | September 7, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”346233″]wondering if you were thinking at all about Oregon as you prepared and consumed le duck.[/quote]
    Probably not. Which would make that thought a canard.
    Pun intended.

  • Joe D | September 7, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    nectarine/mascarpone torte – MY GOD !

    Please provide recipe or whereabouts on how to obtain such a delicacy.

    Thanks
    Joe D.

  • billy | September 7, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    wow, you hang with some famous people. One of the assembled masses looks like John Waters(wearing yellow shirt)

  • Paul Lukas | September 7, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”346236″]wow, you hang with some famous people. One of the assembled masses looks like John Waters(wearing yellow shirt)[/quote]

    Everyone says that, but it’s actually Susquehanna Industrial Tool & Die Co. singer/guitarist Michael McMahon:
    http://sitanddieco.c...

  • mtjaws | September 7, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    I sure wish a Marlins/Mets game was happening today. Strange how both have the holiday off.

  • Traxel | September 7, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”346237″][quote comment=”346236″]wow, you hang with some famous people. One of the assembled masses looks like John Waters(wearing yellow shirt)[/quote]

    Everyone says that, but it’s actually Susquehanna Industrial Tool & Die Co. singer/guitarist Michael McMahon:
    http://sitanddieco.c...
    If the SIT & Die Co. would ever go on tour, we’d love to have them at our theater we are restoring…
    http://www.historicr...

    They look like our type of hillbilly act. Maybe scosh more sophisticated…

  • leon | September 7, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”346234″][quote comment=”346233″]wondering if you were thinking at all about Oregon as you prepared and consumed le duck.[/quote]
    Probably not. Which would make that thought a canard.
    Pun intended.[/quote]

    well-done

  • Dylan | September 7, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    wow that food looked amazing, i wish i was there.
    brett gardner is going pants down today in his first game since july 25. didn’t ever wear stirrups but the high socks looked good.

  • kevin | September 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    Brian Tallet…. stirrup socks… last night…

  • kevin | September 7, 2009 at 4:06 pm |
  • Rick | September 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    Watching the Cincinnati-Rutgers game. Is it just me, or are the Cincinnati uniforms among the worst in all of college football? The pants “striping” looks just horrible. Rutgers, on the other hand, looks great.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”346243″]Brian Tallet…. stirrup socks… last night…[/quote]

    “Now pitching for the Blue Jays, Brian Tallet, pride of the Yearning Loins Trailer Park in Sump Bucket, West Virginia.”

    —Ricko

  • Chris | September 7, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.

  • Dwayne | September 7, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”346245″]Watching the Cincinnati-Rutgers game. Is it just me, or are the Cincinnati uniforms among the worst in all of college football? The pants “striping” looks just horrible. [/quote]

    Yes, I agree about UC’s uniforms.

    They have been a colossal train-wreck for a long time now.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”346247″]I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.[/quote]

    Thank Nike. Baylor now looks almost exactly like Ohio University in the 70s. But not like Baylor, which has been wearing gold helmets almost exclusively since the early ’50s, at least (exactoids please note, I said “almost”).

    Anybody else remember Cleve Bryant? That’s who I thought of when watching Baylor. Problem is, he was a QB at Ohio U.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  • JTH | September 7, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”346250″]Cleve Bryant.
    http://graphics.fans...
    Baylor, 2009.
    http://espn.go.com/b...
    Mike Singletary is rolling over in his grave.

    What?

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”346251″][quote comment=”346250″]Cleve Bryant.
    http://graphics.fans...
    Baylor, 2009.
    http://espn.go.com/b...
    Mike Singletary is rolling over in his grave.

    What?[/quote]

    Maybe we should say he’s spinning on his stool.

  • Greg B. | September 7, 2009 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”346245″]Watching the Cincinnati-Rutgers game. Is it just me, or are the Cincinnati uniforms among the worst in all of college football? The pants “striping” looks just horrible. [/quote]

    They look like a serving of chocolate fudge ripple ice cream.

  • leon | September 7, 2009 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”346249″][quote comment=”346247″]I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.[/quote]

    Thank Nike. Baylor now looks almost exactly like Ohio University in the 70s. But not like Baylor, which has been wearing gold helmets almost exclusively since the early ’50s, at least (exactoids please note, I said “almost”).

    Anybody else remember Cleve Bryant? That’s who I thought of when watching Baylor. Problem is, he was a QB at Ohio U.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    maybe this too, almost?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • LI Phil | September 7, 2009 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”346243″]Brian Tallet…. stirrup socks… last night…[/quote]
    [quote comment=”346244″]proof :

    http://i71.photobuck...

    except they aint stirrups

    proof

    better than his last effort, for sure, but that’s not saying much

  • kevin | September 7, 2009 at 6:00 pm |

    yea thats what i meant by “stirrup socks”… its what we have always called them. or more recently, we just refer to them as “lo ducas”

  • Paul Lukas | September 7, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”346247″]I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.[/quote]

    Baylor now has two helmets — white AND gold:
    http://www.baylorbea...

  • mike rhodes | September 7, 2009 at 6:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”346257″][quote comment=”346247″]I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.[/quote]

    Baylor now has two helmets — white AND gold:
    http://www.baylorbea...

    Yes, Baylor did wear a white helmet in the early 1970s, they wore it with a green jersey and gold pants.

  • LI Phil | September 7, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”346257″][quote comment=”346247″]I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.[/quote]

    Baylor now has two helmets — white AND gold:
    http://www.baylorbea...

    christ

    with those unis, they may as well remove the stripes from the helmets…replace them with, i donno, some spaghetti green thingy and a big green amorphous splotch

    just when i thought nike was returning to a more traditional uniset for it’s stable-schools, they still flex their “creative” muscle with this stuff

    i mean, c’mon this is a ting of beauty…whereas this is not

    it’s not that by itself that uni is so bad (but it is bad), but now they look like every div 2 school and half of div 1…c’mon nike, stop selling the kids on this stuff and keep the classic looks on the few remaining schools that still have them…k, thx

  • bartusball | September 7, 2009 at 7:16 pm |

    A couple days ago I had a long rant about why PNC Park needed built. I mentioned that the original design for the stadium included an open end facing downtown.

    I found a picture here.

    Scroll about half way down for a side by side picture of the original design and the finished product. I don’t know how fan friendly that park would have been. I’m betting that it would look a whole lot better than Three Rivers Stadium.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 7:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”346258″][quote comment=”346257″][quote comment=”346247″]I know it was a couple days ago now, but watching highlights of the Baylor Wake Forest game I could have sworn that Baylor had a gold helmet for as long as I can remember. Saturday it was white.[/quote]

    Baylor now has two helmets — white AND gold:
    http://www.baylorbea...

    Yes, Baylor did wear a white helmet in the early 1970s, they wore it with a green jersey and gold pants.[/quote]

    Indeed they did. No one said they hadn’t worn white. They’ve also worn white pants with gold helmets (see Singletary photo in post #36). But both those combos at least still looked like Baylor, not Ohio U or Marshall. That was the point.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 7:24 pm |

    Baylor in white pants in 50s and early 60s.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Oakville Endive | September 7, 2009 at 7:46 pm |

    With all the recent horror shows in college football – the Saskatchewan RR, broke out this look yesterday

    http://www.bluebombe...

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 7:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”346263″]With all the recent horror shows in college football – the Saskatchewan RR, broke out this look yesterday

    http://www.bluebombe...

    Ah, memories of all-time Roughrider receiver (and later Eskimos coach) Hughie Campbell. Even his number his #31 is there.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 7:57 pm |

    Wpg-Sask highlights…
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    –Ricko

  • JTH | September 7, 2009 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”346262″]Baylor in white pants in 50s and early 60s.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    Ronnie Bull: another Bear who went on to have a solid career as a Bear.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 8:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”346266″][quote comment=”346262″]Baylor in white pants in 50s and early 60s.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    Ronnie Bull: another Bear who went on to have a solid career as a Bear.[/quote]

    Baylor produced some players who got, and deserved, national noteriety back then…from Del Shofner to Bull to Don Trull, Lawrence Elkins, Singletary and Walter Abercrombie. All of whom wore he white pants-gold helmet version.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    And if you must, simply must, revel in the awfulness of the Alouettes unis, here are their highlights vs. British Columbia…
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

  • Oakville Endive | September 7, 2009 at 8:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”346268″]And if you must, simply must, revel in the awfulness of the Alouettes unis, here are their highlights vs. British Columbia…
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    Most of the retro uniforms the CFL have unveiled this year, has hi-lighted just how ugly the current batch of CFL uniforms are. The Als have a great retro uniform* With the “*” being – that the CFL is plastering advertisements on them as well – just to remind all Canadians the league is aspiring to be the ECHL of football.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 8:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”346270″][quote comment=”346268″]And if you must, simply must, revel in the awfulness of the Alouettes unis, here are their highlights vs. British Columbia…
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    Most of the retro uniforms the CFL have unveiled this year, has hi-lighted just how ugly the current batch of CFL uniforms are. The Als have a great retro uniform*

    With the “*” being – that the CFL is plastering advertisements on them as well – just to remind all Canadians the league is aspiring to be the ECHL of football.[/quote]

    For their retros, the Al’s are wearing the set with the red wings on the helmets, circa late 50’s, early 60’s, I believe.
    http://en.montrealal...

  • Oakville Endive | September 7, 2009 at 8:35 pm |

    One other pretty attractive CFL retro look game – this one from this afternoon

    http://watch.tsn.ca/...

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 8:39 pm |

    Some great old CFL footage remembering Sam Etcheverry. Includes silver/gray Al’s jerseys and, of course, a QB wearing #92.
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 7, 2009 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”346272″]One other pretty attractive CFL retro look game – this one from this afternoon

    http://watch.tsn.ca/...

    Holy Bernie Faloney! This time the Ti-Cats broke out the yellow helmets!
    http://static.cdn.mr...

    Last throwback game they still wore black ones with the TC logo.

  • Oakville Endive | September 7, 2009 at 8:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”346273″]Some great old CFL footage remembering Sam Etcheverry. Includes silver/gray Al’s jerseys and, of course, a QB wearing #92.
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Very cool, nice jump pass towards the end of the hi-lights. Some of those houses you see in the background at the end are I believe from Taylor Field (Mosaic) – and you can still see them today. (either that of from Ivor Wynne Stadium – and you can still see those houses as well – the CFL has missed a few generations of stadiums.

  • Oakville Endive | September 7, 2009 at 8:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”346274″][quote comment=”346272″]One other pretty attractive CFL retro look game – this one from this afternoon

    http://watch.tsn.ca/...

    Holy Bernie Faloney! This time the Ti-Cats broke out the yellow helmets!

    http://static.cdn.mr...

    Last throwback game they still wore black ones with the TC logo.[/quote]

    The shade of yellow on the numbers is close to Tampa Bay Buccaneers orange.

  • JimV19 | September 7, 2009 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”346260″]A couple days ago I had a long rant about why PNC Park needed built. I mentioned that the original design for the stadium included an open end facing downtown.

    I found a picture here.

    Scroll about half way down for a side by side picture of the original design and the finished product. I don’t know how fan friendly that park would have been. I’m betting that it would look a whole lot better than Three Rivers Stadium.[/quote]

    This http://www.ballparkt... could have put Three Rivers up there with Kauffman Stadium.

  • LI Phil | September 7, 2009 at 9:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”346277″][quote comment=”346260″]A couple days ago I had a long rant about why PNC Park needed built. I mentioned that the original design for the stadium included an open end facing downtown.

    I found a picture here.

    Scroll about half way down for a side by side picture of the original design and the finished product. I don’t know how fan friendly that park would have been. I’m betting that it would look a whole lot better than Three Rivers Stadium.[/quote]

    This http://www.ballparkt... could have put Three Rivers up there with Kauffman Stadium.[/quote]

    and this couldn’t be built because???

    they needed a multipurpose donut instead???

  • JimV19 | September 7, 2009 at 9:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”346278″][quote comment=”346277″][quote comment=”346260″]A couple days ago I had a long rant about why PNC Park needed built. I mentioned that the original design for the stadium included an open end facing downtown.

    I found a picture here.

    Scroll about half way down for a side by side picture of the original design and the finished product. I don’t know how fan friendly that park would have been. I’m betting that it would look a whole lot better than Three Rivers Stadium.[/quote]

    This http://www.ballparkt... could have put Three Rivers up there with Kauffman Stadium.[/quote]

    and this couldn’t be built because???

    they needed a multipurpose donut instead???[/quote]

    Blame the Stillers.

  • LI Phil | September 7, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote]Blame the Stillers.[/quote]

    granted, the stillers couldn’t play in either forbes field or pitt stadium as the 70s dawned, and no one (as yet) knew of the horrors of the multipurpose, astroturfed ring-a-ding … but really, some cross between what was proposed and 3 rivers couldn’t have been achieved? the stillers couldn’t play in what could have been the pirates new beauty?

    damn, imagine if that new pirates palace had been constructed???

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”346280″][quote]Blame the Stillers.[/quote]

    granted, the stillers couldn’t play in either forbes field or pitt stadium as the 70s dawned, and no one (as yet) knew of the horrors of the multipurpose, astroturfed ring-a-ding … but really, some cross between what was proposed and 3 rivers couldn’t have been achieved? the stillers couldn’t play in what could have been the pirates new beauty?

    damn, imagine if that new pirates palace had been constructed???[/quote]

    Pirates on WGN today. PNC looks pretty damn fine. Can’t figure why it hasn’t helped Pittsburgh’s goal of getting a major league baseball team.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 9:23 pm |

    Still think Miami’s jerseys look like the Spacely Sprockets house league team. Y’know, all “visionary” and “futuristic”.

    My mom had some visionary Melmac plates like that in the ’50s.

    (eyeroll)

    Gold shoes on FSU kicker? Probably picked ’em up at Graceland.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    It’s the shoes.
    http://www.elvisinfo...

  • JimV19 | September 7, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”346281″][quote comment=”346280″][quote]Blame the Stillers.[/quote]

    granted, the stillers couldn’t play in either forbes field or pitt stadium as the 70s dawned, and no one (as yet) knew of the horrors of the multipurpose, astroturfed ring-a-ding … but really, some cross between what was proposed and 3 rivers couldn’t have been achieved? the stillers couldn’t play in what could have been the pirates new beauty?

    damn, imagine if that new pirates palace had been constructed???[/quote]

    Pirates on WGN today. PNC looks pretty damn fine. Can’t figure why it hasn’t helped Pittsburgh’s goal of getting a major league baseball team.[/quote]

    It’s very fine. You should come see a game there.

    By the way, it’s official – Pirates now assured of a 17th consecutive losing season.
    http://www.sportingn...
    As bad as things are, at least I can recall two championships in my lifetime. They seem so far away, though…

  • Oakville Endive | September 7, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”346284″][quote comment=”346281″][quote comment=”346280″][quote]Blame the Stillers.[/quote]

    granted, the stillers couldn’t play in either forbes field or pitt stadium as the 70s dawned, and no one (as yet) knew of the horrors of the multipurpose, astroturfed ring-a-ding … but really, some cross between what was proposed and 3 rivers couldn’t have been achieved? the stillers couldn’t play in what could have been the pirates new beauty?

    damn, imagine if that new pirates palace had been constructed???[/quote]

    Pirates on WGN today. PNC looks pretty damn fine. Can’t figure why it hasn’t helped Pittsburgh’s goal of getting a major league baseball team.[/quote]

    It’s very fine. You should come see a game there.

    By the way, it’s official – Pirates now assured of a 17th consecutive losing season.
    http://www.sportingn...
    As bad as things are, at least I can recall two championships in my lifetime. They seem so far away, though…[/quote]

    The Pirates have averaged a little over 19,000 this year, while down from previous years, still easily beats any annual attendance average from the 1970’s – the real glory years of the franchise. At the end of the day – atmosphere counts.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”346284″][quote comment=”346281″][quote comment=”346280″][quote]Blame the Stillers.[/quote]

    granted, the stillers couldn’t play in either forbes field or pitt stadium as the 70s dawned, and no one (as yet) knew of the horrors of the multipurpose, astroturfed ring-a-ding … but really, some cross between what was proposed and 3 rivers couldn’t have been achieved? the stillers couldn’t play in what could have been the pirates new beauty?

    damn, imagine if that new pirates palace had been constructed???[/quote]

    Pirates on WGN today. PNC looks pretty damn fine. Can’t figure why it hasn’t helped Pittsburgh’s goal of getting a major league baseball team.[/quote]

    It’s very fine. You should come see a game there.

    By the way, it’s official – Pirates now assured of a 17th consecutive losing season.
    http://www.sportingn...
    As bad as things are, at least I can recall two championships in my lifetime. They seem so far away, though…[/quote]

    Honestly, every time I see the Pirates on TV, even a highlight, it crosses my mind that it would be good for baseball, and just plain fun, if the Pirates started winning again.

    Even when they wear those pins. Just don’t think of the Pirates as a pins team (well, except for the bumblebees, where pins were an element not an overall team style).

    —Ricko

  • BurghFan | September 7, 2009 at 10:31 pm |

    The open-ended version of Three Rivers would have been awful for football. I don’t think we ever saw a stadium that was good for both sports; the concrete ashtrays were adequate for both.

    PNC Park is nice, Heinz Field really isn’t, but I’d be happier if neither was built by taxpayers.

    Endive, comparing ’70s baseball attendances with today’s involves comparing turnstile count to tickets sold. That said, the Pirates market and promote much more aggressively than they did in the ’70s, and attendance is generally up around sports.

    Ricko, the Pirates aren’t a pinstripe team. (The late ’70s stripes certainly weren’t pins.) I like the vests better than the current sleeved unis anyway, but the Sunday alts shouldn’t be pinstriped.

  • mike 2 | September 7, 2009 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”346275″][quote comment=”346273″]Some great old CFL footage remembering Sam Etcheverry. Includes silver/gray Al’s jerseys and, of course, a QB wearing #92.
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Very cool,

    nice jump pass towards the end of the hi-lights. Some of those houses you see in the background at the end are I believe from Taylor Field (Mosaic) – and you can still see them today. (either that of from Ivor Wynne Stadium – and you can still see those houses as well – the CFL has missed a few generations of stadiums.[/quote]

    My guess is Taylor Field – I don’t think the homes are quite that close at Ivor Wynne. But you’re right, there’s a bunch of very old stadiums in the CFL.

    A few seconds before that, there’s some footage of Exhibition Stadium with the old north grandstand (the only part of the stadium that the Blue Jays kept) and a brief shot of Pierre Trudeau in his infamous pimp costume.

  • Ricko | September 7, 2009 at 11:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”346287″]The open-ended version of Three Rivers would have been awful for football. I don’t think we ever saw a stadium that was good for both sports; the concrete ashtrays were adequate for both.

    PNC Park is nice, Heinz Field really isn’t, but I’d be happier if neither was built by taxpayers.

    Endive, comparing ’70s baseball attendances with today’s involves comparing turnstile count to tickets sold. That said, the Pirates market and promote much more aggressively than they did in the ’70s, and attendance is generally up around sports.

    Ricko, the Pirates aren’t a pinstripe team. (The late ’70s stripes certainly weren’t pins.) I like the vests better than the current sleeved unis anyway, but the Sunday alts shouldn’t be pinstriped.[/quote]

    See, even Pittsburghers think the pins don’t work.

  • LI Phil | September 7, 2009 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote]The open-ended version of Three Rivers would have been awful for football. I don’t think we ever saw a stadium that was good for both sports;[/quote]

    not arguing with you but, a question…why not? seating too far from the field (for football) and winds too swirly with open ended field?

    [quote]the concrete ashtrays were adequate for both.[/quote]

    i think hindsight being what it is, we know now that’s not true, but in 1970, that seemed the perfect panacea

  • bartusball | September 7, 2009 at 11:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”346287″]The open-ended version of Three Rivers would have been awful for football. I don’t think we ever saw a stadium that was good for both sports; the concrete ashtrays were adequate for both.

    PNC Park is nice, Heinz Field really isn’t, but I’d be happier if neither was built by taxpayers.

    Endive, comparing ’70s baseball attendances with today’s involves comparing turnstile count to tickets sold. That said, the Pirates market and promote much more aggressively than they did in the ’70s, and attendance is generally up around sports.

    Ricko, the Pirates aren’t a pinstripe team. (The late ’70s stripes certainly weren’t pins.) I like the vests better than the current sleeved unis anyway, but the Sunday alts shouldn’t be pinstriped.[/quote]

    Hello, Heinz Field is open now. I find it extemely funny that the Rooney family nixed the original proposal for an open ended stadium and went ahead a built one now with Heinz Field.

  • John Hasson | September 7, 2009 at 11:41 pm |

    The food looks incredible. That last photo kills me, though. No offense at all, but what is up with your boy’s outfit?? Is it 1954?

  • JimV19 | September 7, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”346288″][quote comment=”346275″][quote comment=”346273″]Some great old CFL footage remembering Sam Etcheverry. Includes silver/gray Al’s jerseys and, of course, a QB wearing #92.
    http://www.cfl.ca/vi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Very cool,

    nice jump pass towards the end of the hi-lights. Some of those houses you see in the background at the end are I believe from Taylor Field (Mosaic) – and you can still see them today. (either that of from Ivor Wynne Stadium – and you can still see those houses as well – the CFL has missed a few generations of stadiums.[/quote]

    My guess is Taylor Field – I don’t think the homes are quite that close at Ivor Wynne. But you’re right, there’s a bunch of very old stadiums in the CFL.[/quote]

    Ivor Wynne is smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood. One end zone and one sideline are right across the street from houses just like those pictured. It’s pretty cool. Don’t know which stadium it is, but it could be either one.

  • Paul Lukas | September 8, 2009 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”346292″]The food looks incredible. That last photo kills me, though. No offense at all, but what is up with your boy’s outfit?? Is it 1954?[/quote]

    In Michael’s head, it’s probably more like 1944. Either way, you wish you had, like, 1/1000th of his talent and style:
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2009 at 12:28 am |

    [quote comment=”346294″][quote comment=”346292″]The food looks incredible. That last photo kills me, though. No offense at all, but what is up with your boy’s outfit?? Is it 1954?[/quote]

    In Michael’s head, it’s probably more like 1944. Either way, you wish you had, like, 1/1000th of his talent and style:
    http://www.flickr.co...

    you got the beige vintage sweater memo!

  • Burghfan | September 8, 2009 at 1:50 am |

    Hello, Heinz Field is open now. I find it extemely funny that the Rooney family nixed the original proposal for an open ended stadium and went ahead a built one now with Heinz Field.

    It’s the difference between a stadium designed specifically for football and one that’s primarily designed for baseball. The building in the drawing is essentially a ballpark; I’m hard-pressed to figure out what the good football seats would be. If they’d built Three Rivers as an ashtray with an open end (like Shea or Oakland), the view would have been nice, but the stadium still would have been no more than adequate, and even less adequate if the seating had gone higher to make up for the lost outfield sections.

  • Nick | September 8, 2009 at 1:58 am |

    [quote comment=”346262″]Baylor in white pants in 50s and early 60s.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Baylor had White Pants and Gold helmets for the overwhelming majority of the years 1960-present.

    The Gold helmet/Green jersey/White pants was/is a clean, classic look and I would say that particular look was almost exclusively identifiable to Baylor – in a very positive way.

    Now they sport cheap, cookie-cutter Nike “Uniform Carnival” (as I remember PL describing the Mets some time back in the Village Voice days), with the Vegas Gold jerseys and pants next to useless.

    COME ON … Get back to looking like Baylor, and get off of the trend trian.

  • Ricko | September 8, 2009 at 8:03 am |

    Excellent post.

    “that particular look was almost exclusively identifiable to Baylor – in a very positive way.”

    Designers these days don’t seem to see the whole board, and understand what may be distinctive and unique and has worked for a team. They apparently simply discount that kind of thing. Their attitude seems to be if something’s been done for a long time it must need changing. They seem to be saying “old” is automatically bad. Yet they’re quick to criticize others, saying. “Oh, you just think anything NEW is bad.” Huh? Isn’t that a serious double standard?

    Every generation has its group of people who think they were born with the ability to improve everything that has gone before. And of course it will better because THEY did it. Just ask them.

    Good judgement is a HUGE part of good design. You have to be able to evaluate the context of things, to know what really needs changing and what has worked and should be left alone.

    You don’t show you’re a good designer by walking into every new client and saying, “Well, first of all, we’re going to change everything.”

    —Ricko

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