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And Just Wait Until Mike Morgan Gets Inducted

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Most of you have probably seen Gaylord Perry’s career-spanning jersey, shown at right. But anyone can slap a bunch of logos on a single jersey — that’s easy. It takes a loose screw serious devotion to do what reader Ian Haggerty did when attending the Hall of Fame inductions in Cooperstown last Sunday: He decided to salute his favorite player, Rickey Henderson, by wearing one piece of apparel or accessory for each stop in Rickey’s well-traveled career — including all nine major league teams, two independent league teams, and one minor league rehab stint.

It’s hard to see all the items in that one photo, so here’s a breakdown, with Ian’s comments on each item, presented in the order of the teams Rickey played for:

A’s jersey (with NOB): “Team shown on his Hall plaque, most of his numbers were with them, so they deserved to be the most visible part of the outfit. After I bought the jersey, I freaked out a bit, because I remembered that the green jersey was newer and wasn’t positive he wore it. Looked it up, and saw that it came around in 1994 I believe, and photographic evidence of him wearing it.”

Yankees cap: “My favorite team, his second-most ABs and numbers with them, and he was playing for them at the time that I became a fan. Had to give the Yankees their due, and I already owned about 10 Yankees hats, so then it was just a matter of choosing which one. So I went with my fitted field hat, which was pretty beat up from years of use.”

Blue Jays baseball seam wristband: “Found a website with the wristbands, knew that I would need something for each wrist to be able to keep all of the items visible. Since it was a smaller piece, but still a cool one, I thought it would be good for team he only played half a season with, but won a World Series with.”

Padres turtleneck: “Who wears a turtleneck in July? This moron did! My sister helped me by cutting off the sleeves, but it was still pretty warm. But it was a nice addition and easily visible, so it worked.”

Angels right flip-flop: “Most disappointing part of the outfit. I couldn’t find anything with the flying-A Disney logo, so I went with the current logo. Not a fan of the Angels, so I kept it on the foot so I could walk all over them (I know, I’m a loser).”

Mets belt buckle: “One of my favorites, actually. As a Yankees fan, I don’t hate the Mets — I really don’t care about them. Kind of like the Nationals to me. But the belt buckle is cool because the baseball behind the logo spins, so it kept me entertained.”

Mariners wristband: “I know, wrong logo for the time he played with them. But it’s a cool logo, and it cost only $3.95. Plus I had an open wrist for something to put on there, and he only played there half a year with them, so it wasn’t too flashy.”

Red Sox left flip-flop: “Worst part of the outfit for me to wear, because I’m a Yankees fan. But I had to wear something, because Rickey played for them. Kept it on my left foot, so it wasn’t next to my interlocking NY tattoo on the inside of my right ankle. It gave me blisters — that’ll teach me to wear Red Sox stuff. (Incidentally, I was originally going to do Dodgers and Angels sneakers, and Mets and Red Sox socks, but I was worried the shoes would cover up the socks too much, so I went with the flip-flops.)”

Dodgers necklace: “You can barely see the team’s logo on it because it’s kind of small, so I went with the team he played on last, and a team that he didn’t do much with in terms of stats.”

Newark Bears pin (Atlantic League): As an employee of the Somerset Patriots of the Atlantic League, I figured this would be an easy item to get. But they didn’t have any merchandise available online, so it was more difficult then I expected. Then I went to the Atlantic League All-Star game on June 23rd and was reminded by co-worker (and daily Uni Watch reader) Adam Cobb to go to the store at the game, where I found the pin. It was the last piece of the outfit that I acquired.”

San Diego Surf Dawgs jersey tee (Golden State League): “I bought this T-shirt back in 2005, when he with played for the Dawgs.”

Portland Beavers earring: “After I got the Bears pin, I figured I was done. But after talking to my father and brothers, we decided that I should look into all the minor league stops Rickey made. Coming up through the A’s system, he played for the Boise A’s, the Modesto A’s, Jersey City A’s, and Ogden A’s, so I decided the A’s jersey covered that. Then I looked up his minor league rehab stints and found he only made two of them: One in 1985 with the Fort Lauderdale Yankees (already represented by the Yankees cap) and another in 2001 with the Portland Beavers (a Padres affiliate). So I went on the Beavers web site, purchased the earrings, forced one of them through my ear (which used to be pierced, although I hadn’t worn an earring in six years), and I was ready to go.”

Fortunately for all concerned, Rickey never made that long-threatened comeback, so we’re spared the sight of Ian wearing an Orioles navel ring or whatever.

Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day for the SportsCrack T-shirt raffle. Full details here.

Cleveland Reminder: Uni Watch party tomorrow night, 7pm, at the Prosperity Social Club. See you there.

Uni Watch News Ticker: New football field designs for Arkansas and Western Kentucky. … Rick Friedel notes that Tom Zbikowski wore three different uni numbers last season. … Madison’s new minor league hockey team will be called the Ice Muskies (with thanks to Jeff Ash). … Some very nice early-1900s panoramic Indians team portraits here (with thanks to Marc Swanson). … The bullpen buggy lives! That shot was taken at the Memorial Day Parade in Bayville, N.Y., and forwarded to me by Todd Radom. … Lots of truly hideous minor league hockey jerseys on display here (nice find by Chris Flinn). … As we covered last year around this time, the Ravens award a purple hammer patch to players who attend 85% of the off-season workouts. But now there are players with two patches. Anyone know the story? (As spotted by Rick Friedel.) … The past few days I’ve shown photos of several Royals players who rolled up their sleeve cuffs in the 1980s. Now comes this from Joe Barker: “The Royals weren’t the only team in Missouri to have players roll up their sleeves. In the early ’90s, Cards outfielder Felix José always rolled his sleeves up. As a kid, I used to do it when I played Little League, because José was one of my favorite players.” … The West Michigan Whitecaps will wear Star Wars jerseys on August 1st (with thanks to Wayne Koehler). … Yesterday’s post about the Three-Letter NOB Team prompted Bill Kellick to contribute rear-view pics of Kent Nix and John Alt. … Just when you thought the Mets couldn’t get any more embarrassing, they release a line of player-designed apparel (although I’m fairly certain the “design” process in this case consisted of looking at a mock-up and saying, “Yeah, OK, that’s fine”). And just to underscore the hilarity, they got Daniel Murphy’s name wrong on the web listing. I ask you, where’s Tony Bernazard when you need him? … Check out this baseball T-shirt quilt. “Most of the shirts come from many years of trips to all the major league ballparks,” says Beau Craig. “My mom felt I would grow into the extra large shirts she had purchased, but unfortunately I did not. So my fiancé turned these unused shirts into an art project. It currently looks great on my bed and will soon be a great addition to a sports-themed man cave.” … Alain Nana-Sinkam, who runs the fine Classic Old School operation, recently attended a family reunion. “This year I decided to do a team theme,” he says, “so I gave each family member a uniform number (starting with #1 and #2 for Granddad and Nana — those are retired, since they’ve passed — all the way up to 33 and 34 for the littlest babies). I then did logos for each family, based on where they’re from.” … New football uniforms for Montana State. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great view of Dick Allen’s HOB (hometown on back). … Also from yesterday: Rare shot of Rollie Fingers in a Bosox uni. … Michael Kemezis spotted this at last nights Rockies/Mets game (and says the new NOB appeared to have been rendered in torn-up napkins). … Live organ transplant? Nope — that’s Astros pitcher Jeff Fulchino, who had a ground ball lodge in his jersey last night (with thanks to Paulie Soto). … This Flickr set includes several shots of Fenway bat boys not wearing batting helmets, which looks much better but is against MLB regulations (with thanks to Christopher Leopardi). … The Red Sox retired Jim Rice’s number last night. … You know how you occasionally see stories about “the stupidest thief ever”? Here’s one about the stupidest jersey thief (with thanks to Chad Todd). … Single-digit pitcher? Sort of — that’s Mark Loretta, who was pressed into service to get one out during last night’s Dodgers/Cards blowout.

Be nice to the substitute teacher: Phil will be minding the store while I’m in Cleveland — treat him right. I’ll be back in the saddle next week.

 

228 comments to And Just Wait Until Mike Morgan Gets Inducted

  • Lose R | July 29, 2009 at 8:30 am |

    That Dick Allen photo link isn’t working too well :(

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 8:38 am |

    [quote]As we covered last year around this time, the Ravens award a purple hammer patch to players who attend 85% of the off-season workouts. But now there are players with two patches. Anyone know the story?[/quote]

    perhaps they have accomplished this amazing feat two years in a row?

  • TMD | July 29, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    Great dedication to the fastest man in the game. Especially wearing a turtleneck.

  • Paul Lukas | July 29, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”342714″]That Dick Allen photo link isn’t working too well :([/quote]

    Now fixed:
    http://farm3.static....

  • Adam | July 29, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    Typical Red Sox IMHO…they retire Rice’s Number AFTER the HOF Ceremonies…what they wanted to make sure his election was official before retiring his number? 14 should have been retired up there a LONG time ago along with 24….and this is coming from a Yankees fan!

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    I still call ’em the Bullets, so the “Nana-Sinkams logo: Yes!

    (I’d give my right arm for one of those).

    :)

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    Ricko, overall I liked your softball uni over Ian’s HOF kit, but he blew you away on accessorizing. The earring showed a particularly strong commitment.

    :)

  • denis | July 29, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”342720″]Ricko, overall I liked your softball uni over Ian’s HOF kit, but he blew you away on accessorizing. The earring showed a particularly strong commitment.

    :)[/quote]

    I think I’d rather jam an earring into my ear than wear a turtleneck. Either way, that’s one die-hard fan!

  • Steve | July 29, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”342718″]Typical Red Sox IMHO…they retire Rice’s Number AFTER the HOF Ceremonies…what they wanted to make sure his election was official before retiring his number? 14 should have been retired up there a LONG time ago along with 24….and this is coming from a Yankees fan![/quote]

    The Red Sox has a policy that a player must have played with them for at least ten years, and then must be elected into the Hall of Fame.

    http://www.mlb.com/b...

  • Adam | July 29, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”342723″][quote comment=”342718″]Typical Red Sox IMHO…they retire Rice’s Number AFTER the HOF Ceremonies…what they wanted to make sure his election was official before retiring his number? 14 should have been retired up there a LONG time ago along with 24….and this is coming from a Yankees fan![/quote]

    The Red Sox has a policy that a player must have played with them for at least ten years, and then must be elected into the Hall of Fame.

    http://www.mlb.com/b...

    My point was that he was elected in January and then ENSHRINED in July. Why didnt they do the number retirement in April? Did they think there would be a recount?

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    [quote]The Red Sox has a policy that a player must have played with them for at least ten years, and then must be elected into the Hall of Fame.[/quote]

    or have a pole named after you

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    I seem to recall Jose Cruz rolling up his sleeves for the Astros back in the ’70s and ’80s.

    This card http://www.baseball-... seems to confirm that, as does this one
    https://www.hobbywor...

    Not as easy to tell on this site, http://www.astrosdai... but some of the pictures look as if he did.

    By the way, while searching for these pics, check out this one I found of shortstop Dickie Thon http://www.astrosdai... Looks better than any of those minor league hockey jerseys…

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”342725″][quote]The Red Sox has a policy that a player must have played with them for at least ten years, and then must be elected into the Hall of Fame.[/quote]

    or have a pole named after you[/quote]

    Milt Barber played for the Sox???

  • Lose R | July 29, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    Thanks for fixing the Dick Allen link!

    Stirrups, Michael Jackson tribute, this video has it all!

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Elena | July 29, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    I love Beau’s baseball t-shirt quilt. Now I know what to do with all those t-shirts of players who are no longer with my team.

  • Namhob | July 29, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”342729″]I love Beau’s baseball t-shirt quilt. Now I know what to do with all those t-shirts of players who are no longer with my team.[/quote]
    My wife has threatened me that if we have a son, the trade off for me painting the nursery in Bosox colors is that she’ll make a quilt of all of my Bosox t-shirts. If she can find them…

  • scott | July 29, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    NESN was rebroadcasting a Red Sox-Indians game from 1988 the other day and Carmen Castillo had the sleeves on his jersey rolled up just a bit, enough so that the Indian patch on the left shoulder was obscured.

  • Chuck | July 29, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

  • Frank from B-more | July 29, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    Double Arm and Hammer indicates 2 years in a row for workout warriors on the Ravens.

  • Paul Lukas | July 29, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    Wow, I didn’t realize I’d have such a big role in the finished article. Thought the guy just wanted a quick quote or two.

  • Oakville Endive | July 29, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend. In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.

  • James Craven | July 29, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    We had another Bad Monday on the uni front in baseball as the Twins (in navy tops) took on the White Sox (in black jerseys).

    Susan Powter called. She wants them to STOP THE INSANITY!

  • M.Princip | July 29, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    I love the Chief’s uniform, only thing they need are those red leather shoes they used to wear back in the day. Those were badass!

  • ClubMedSux | July 29, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    He decided to salute his favorite player, Rickey Henderson, by wearing one piece of apparel or accessory for each stop in Rickey’s well-traveled career — including all nine major league teams, two independent league teams, and one minor league rehab stint.

    Wow, Ian must love Rickey Henderson almost as much as Rickey Henderson loves Rickey Henderson. Actually, on second thought, Ian’s not even close…

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    Couldn’t have said it any better myself. I sure miss those Houston Rockets ketchup and mustard unis. They never ever should have changed from those.

    Paul, in the article you called the Browns’ brown-on-brown look the “full on Tootsie Roll look.” I was thinking more of the Baby Ruth from Caddyshack…http://www.youtube.c...

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”342740″][quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    Couldn’t have said it any better myself. I sure miss those Houston Rockets ketchup and mustard unis. They never ever should have changed from those.

    Paul, in the article you called the Browns’ brown-on-brown look the “full on Tootsie Roll look.” I was thinking more of the Baby Ruth from Caddyshack…http://www.youtube.c...

    Let’s try that again http://www.youtube.c... okay?

  • M.Princip | July 29, 2009 at 10:09 am |
  • chance michaels | July 29, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    You’re right. Add it to royal blue and athletic gold as great color schemes sadly abandoned by virtually every team which once wore them.

  • Hott Rodd | July 29, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    Does anyone have any idea why this cartoon appears do have a Devil Rays logo?

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”342722″][quote comment=”342720″]Ricko, overall I liked your softball uni over Ian’s HOF kit, but he blew you away on accessorizing. The earring showed a particularly strong commitment.

    :)[/quote]

    I think I’d rather jam an earring into my ear than wear a turtleneck. Either way, that’s one die-hard fan![/quote]

    I must admit, I am pierce-less. Or is it “pierce-free”?

    Glad Ian included the Newark Bears and other Rickey stops in the ensemble. Thoroughness is its own reward, isn’t it.

    Well, isn’t it?

    (btw, in Henderson’s defense, this time he did not say he was the greatest. He said he was “among the greatest” or “stand with the greatest”…or something like that).

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”342726″]I seem to recall Jose Cruz rolling up his sleeves for the Astros back in the ’70s and ’80s.

    This card http://www.baseball-... seems to confirm that, as does this one
    https://www.hobbywor...

    Not as easy to tell on this site, http://www.astrosdai... but some of the pictures look as if he did.

    By the way, while searching for these pics, check out this one I found of shortstop Dickie Thon http://www.astrosdai... Looks better than any of those minor league hockey jerseys…[/quote]

    By this time in his career, Cruz evidently just had ’em tailored short.
    http://farm3.static....

    –Ricko

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”342744″]Does anyone have any idea why this cartoon appears do have a Devil Rays logo?

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?[/quote]

    i was thinking it was more this, but probably supposed to be this

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”342746″][quote comment=”342726″]I seem to recall Jose Cruz rolling up his sleeves for the Astros back in the ’70s and ’80s.

    This card http://www.baseball-... seems to confirm that, as does this one
    https://www.hobbywor...

    Not as easy to tell on this site, http://www.astrosdai... but some of the pictures look as if he did.

    By the way, while searching for these pics, check out this one I found of shortstop Dickie Thon http://www.astrosdai... Looks better than any of those minor league hockey jerseys…[/quote]

    By this time in his career, Cruz evidently just had ’em tailored short.
    http://farm3.static....

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Also note the uni IS gray. Very light gray, but gray. They later added a set called “Adobe Cream” or something as a home version, but actually may have worn on the road, too. Did they ever have a pure white set of that Rainbow Shoulders uni? Not sure, but don’t think so.

    —Ricko

  • Mark in Shiga | July 29, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    Ricko, I thought the Astros wore white at home and cream on the road. They certainly wore cream at Shea Stadium in the legendary 1986 playoffs.

  • Roger Faso | July 29, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    Hypothetically speaking, if Jim Rice were to return to the Red Sox as their hitting coach and wear his number 14, (on a daily basis,) would it be prudent for the Red Sox to remove his number signage from above Right Field, as his number would no longer be retired?

  • Bernard | July 29, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.

  • LarenR | July 29, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    Awesome Rickey tribute, but the Surf Dawgs are in the Golden Baseball League, not the Golden State League.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”342727″][quote comment=”342727″]

    or have a pole named after you[/quote]

    Milt Barber played for the Sox???[/quote]You sure it wasn’t Lee/Carlos May?

    (Right now I don’t have time to search Baseball-Reference for any Red Sox players named “Festivus”.)

  • BrianC | July 29, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    The Ice Muskies? A minor league team with an angry cartoon animal logo and the word “Ice” incongruously in their name! How original!

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”342715″]
    perhaps they have accomplished this amazing feat two years in a row?[/quote]I’m keeping this pic for the next time someone comments on how helmet stickers in college are so juvenile; real pro’s are self-motivated.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”342755″]… and the word “Ice” incongruously in their name! …[/quote]
    I’m not sure it’s incongruous for a team in Wisconsin to have “ice” as part of their nickname.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”342751″]Hypothetically speaking, if Jim Rice were to return to the Red Sox as their hitting coach and wear his number 14, (on a daily basis,) would it be prudent for the Red Sox to remove his number signage from above Right Field, as his number would no longer be retired?[/quote]
    No, I think they would (and should) leave it right there.

  • The Ol Goaler | July 29, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=\”342721\”]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]
    I\’m pretty sure that goalie is Mike Liut, who played for The Whale from 1984 through 1990. It looks like he just adapted his mask to the \”combination\” style…

  • Jim BC | July 29, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]
    Totally agree. I remember as a young lad, being a huge Habs fan, but I also owned (and cherished) my Calgary Flames shirt – I just love the look (and I got to pick it out myself from the Sears catalogue). And then the went and messed it up by adding the black… sigh.

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | July 29, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”342751″]Hypothetically speaking, if Jim Rice were to return to the Red Sox as their hitting coach and wear his number 14, (on a daily basis,) would it be prudent for the Red Sox to remove his number signage from above Right Field, as his number would no longer be retired?[/quote]

    The number would still be retired if the honoree himself wore it — it is “retired” in the sense that it cannot be issued to anyone else.

    Both Billy Martin and Yogi Berra managed the Yankees after their numbers were retired; and Yogi, Elston Howard, Don Mattingly, and Ron Guidry served as coaches after their numbers were retired.

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes!

  • A Tama | July 29, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”342715″][quote]As we covered last year around this time, the Ravens award a purple hammer patch to players who attend 85% of the off-season workouts. But now there are players with two patches. Anyone know the story?[/quote]

    perhaps they have accomplished this amazing feat two years in a row?[/quote]

    Are they allowed to wear those during the regular season?

  • Kerry P | July 29, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”342747″][quote comment=”342744″]Does anyone have any idea why this cartoon appears do have a Devil Rays logo?

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?[/quote]

    i was thinking it was more this, but probably supposed to be this[/quote]
    It does appear to be a Ravens logo at first glance. But, I think you’re right that the intent was the NFL shield.

  • Kerry P | July 29, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”342715″]perhaps they have accomplished this amazing feat two years in a row?[/quote]
    I wonder if I can talk my boss into giving me some recognition for only showing up to my job 85% of the time. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

  • John T | July 29, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    New Manchester Utd. away kit

    http://store.manutd....

    any thoughts on this??

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”342764″][quote comment=”342747″]

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?[/quote]

    It does appear to be a Ravens logo at first glance. But, I think you’re right that the intent was the NFL shield.[/quote]Any possibility that the cartoonist went back to Favre’s Southern Mississippi days?

  • Jim BC | July 29, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”342759″][quote comment=\”342721\”]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]
    I\’m pretty sure that goalie is Mike Liut, who played for The Whale from 1984 through 1990. It looks like he just adapted his mask to the \”combination\” style…[/quote]
    Peter Sidorkiewicz?

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”342765″]I wonder if I can talk my boss into giving me some recognition for only showing up to my job 85% of the time. Sounds like a sweet deal to me.[/quote]
    Ah, but you’re thinking of a job that doesn’t have a six-figure salary minimum.

    These are VOLUNTARY workouts that the patch celebrates.

    ;-)

  • JSS | July 29, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    Here is a gallery of the updates to Neyland Stadium

    http://www.utsports....

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”342766″]New Manchester Utd. away kit

    http://store.manutd....

    any thoughts on this??[/quote]

    The blue V-strip is nice. Just that. Nothing else. But I used to own a Man City jersey, so what else would you expect from me? ;)

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    “New football uniforms for Montana State. …”

    Those guys did not look like they’re ready to “get it started.”

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    “a ground ball lodge in his jersey”

    What’s the scorer’s ruling on that?

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”342772″]”New football uniforms for Montana State. …”

    Those guys did not look like they’re ready to “get it started.”[/quote]

    Yeah, they said they felt comfortable but they didn’t look it.

    I don’t think the jerseys can get any tighter. What’s next – body armor like the Imperial Stormtroopers lovingly painted in your team’s colors?

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”342773″]What’s the scorer’s ruling on that?[/quote]Better than a line drive lodging in his pants.

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”342754″][quote comment=”342727″][quote comment=”342727″]

    or have a pole named after you[/quote]

    Milt Barber played for the Sox???[/quote]You sure it wasn’t Lee/Carlos May?

    (Right now I don’t have time to search Baseball-Reference for any Red Sox players named “Festivus”.)[/quote]

    ….Billy North?

    btw, I should have referenced “Stu” Barber before.
    Got him juxtaposed with Milt Pappas. I’m sure it will be much funnier now.

  • Hott Rodd | July 29, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”342747″][quote comment=”342744″]Does anyone have any idea why this cartoon appears do have a Devil Rays logo?

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?[/quote]

    i was thinking it was more this, but probably supposed to be this[/quote]

    Upon closer inspection (read: held ctrl and rolled the mouse wheel to enlarge the page) there does appear to be an NFL in the darkened area.

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 29, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    Rick Friedel notes that Tom Zbikowski wore three different uni numbers last season.

    Only in camp. Was always #28 for games. The Ravens have a history of wearing different numbers in camp…Ray Ray, Reed and Sanders used to always mix it up.

  • Paul Lukas | July 29, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”342773″]”a ground ball lodge in his jersey”

    What’s the scorer’s ruling on that?[/quote]

    Base hit.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”342776″]I’m sure it will be much funnier now.[/quote]If I thought Ricko would have let me get away with it, I would have asked if Stu was any relation to Sal Barber-Maglie.

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”342753″]Awesome Rickey tribute, but the Surf Dawgs are in the Golden Baseball League, not the Golden State League.[/quote]

    They’re not really in any league since they seem to have folded 2 or 3 years ago.

  • Ian H. | July 29, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”342753″]Awesome Rickey tribute, but the Surf Dawgs are in the Golden Baseball League, not the Golden State League.[/quote]

    I realized it as soon as I read the article today actually. I was writing the e-mail at work, so I was going back and forth between it and getting ready for a game, so I must have been on the phone and instead of writing baseball I wrote state…oh well…

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”342776″]
    ….Billy North?[/quote]
    Ray Katt?

  • LarenR | July 29, 2009 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”342781″][quote comment=”342753″]Awesome Rickey tribute, but the Surf Dawgs are in the Golden Baseball League, not the Golden State League.[/quote]

    They’re not really in any league since they seem to have folded 2 or 3 years ago.[/quote]
    S’pose that’s true. I haven’t really followed the league since I moved from Long Beach to the Bay Area. I used to live about 5 minutes from Blair Field and would go to a ton of Armada games. I saw Henderson (and Canseco) a coupla’ times and still have 3 Rickey-as-a-Surf-Dawg bobble heads. (Two are still in their boxes…maybe I should finally put them up on eBay to capitalize on the HoF attention he’s getting.)

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”342781″][quote comment=”342753″]Awesome Rickey tribute, but the Surf Dawgs are in the Golden Baseball League, not the Golden State League.[/quote]

    They’re not really in any league since they seem to have folded 2 or 3 years ago.[/quote]

    Well silly me, according to wikipedia the Dawgs are playing in the Arizona Summer League this year. They don’t have their own website right now and their ASL team page is down.

  • mike 2 | July 29, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”342779″][quote comment=”342773″]”a ground ball lodge in his jersey”

    What’s the scorer’s ruling on that?[/quote]

    Base hit.[/quote]

    Yes, but is it a live ball allowing the baserunner keep going until the pitcher finds it, or is it a dead ball (like the ball getting lodged in the umpire’s gear)?

    A reasonably quick googling – the rules of baseball don’t say. The rules only deal with the ball getting lodged in umpires or catchers gear. A ball lodging in the catcher’s gear is live, so I assume they’d treat a ball lodged in a fielder’s gear the same way?

    http://findarticles....

  • Teebz | July 29, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”342768″][quote comment=”342759″][quote comment=\”342721\”]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]
    I\’m pretty sure that goalie is Mike Liut, who played for The Whale from 1984 through 1990. It looks like he just adapted his mask to the \”combination\” style…[/quote]
    Peter Sidorkiewicz?[/quote]

    I’ve never seen Sidorkiewicz don a hybrid mask. He only wore the Osgood “birdcage” style only.

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”342784″][quote comment=”342781″][quote comment=”342753″]Awesome Rickey tribute, but the Surf Dawgs are in the Golden Baseball League, not the Golden State League.[/quote]

    They’re not really in any league since they seem to have folded 2 or 3 years ago.[/quote]
    S’pose that’s true. I haven’t really followed the league since I moved from Long Beach to the Bay Area. I used to live about 5 minutes from Blair Field and would go to a ton of Armada games. I saw Henderson (and Canseco) a coupla’ times and still have 3 Rickey-as-a-Surf-Dawg bobble heads. (Two are still in their boxes…maybe I should finally put them up on eBay to capitalize on the HoF attention he’s getting.)[/quote]

    I found out they folded a couple Christmases ago. I went to the Surf Dawgs website and they said they had suspended operations. The cool thing is they were selling all their merchandise super cheap. I got Henderson and Canseco t-shirts for $5 and a couple Henderson baseballs for like $2.50 each. Made nice stocking stuffers.

  • Oakville Endive | July 29, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”342772″]”New football uniforms for Montana State. …”

    Those guys did not look like they’re ready to “get it started.”[/quote]

    Too bad it wasn’t Montana , as opposed to Montana State, and the news was they were permanently adopting the Copper & Gold retro – look that they broke-out for one game last year. They were truly ugly………..but also truly unique – and unique trumps appearance – just ask Cleveland Brown fans.

  • mmwatkin | July 29, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”342770″]Here is a gallery of the updates to Neyland Stadium

    http://www.utsports....

    yuck.

    there should be ban on luxury suites at college football stadiums. keep those for the lame-o NFL atmosphere.

    Nothing says college football like big donors sitting in climate controlled suites while being served food by a waitstaff!!! (eyeroll)

    Sorry, but give me a brat, a metal bench, and 3 hours of football to sober me up from the 5 hour tailgate!

  • Paul Lukas | July 29, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”342786″][quote comment=”342779″][quote comment=”342773″]”a ground ball lodge in his jersey”

    What’s the scorer’s ruling on that?[/quote]

    Base hit.[/quote]

    Yes, but is it a live ball allowing the baserunner keep going until the pitcher finds it, or is it a dead ball (like the ball getting lodged in the umpire’s gear)?

    A reasonably quick googling – the rules of baseball don’t say. The rules only deal with the ball getting lodged in umpires or catchers gear. A ball lodging in the catcher’s gear is live, so I assume they’d treat a ball lodged in a fielder’s gear the same way?

    http://findarticles....

    The ump immediately called the play dead.

  • Wollen1 | July 29, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    I get it now. Brett Favre is to the Packers what Luca Brasi was to the Corleones. This two year saga was masterminded at Lambeau to completely screw up the entire Minnesota Vikings organization for years. I bet Vikings fans wish Brad Childress had some piano wire right now.

  • Rob Ullman | July 29, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    I saw several dozen dudes rocking Star Wars-themed jerseys at Comic-Con last week…mainly hockey and baseball, with all manner of crappy logos on the front and “FETT” or some such nonsense as NOB. Most of ’em looked about as good as what the Whitecaps will wear this weekend.

  • ClubMedSux | July 29, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    (Right now I don’t have time to search Baseball-Reference for any Red Sox players named “Festivus”.)

    Sadly, there has never been a MLB player with the last name “Dick,” which means a perfectly good Dick Pole joke goes wasted…

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    Absurd you say? There have been other instances where baseballs have flitted into areas where “the sun don’t shine”. One time former Washington Senator pitcher Dutch Leonard threw one of his famed knucklers to an A’s batter who lined a shot that found its way into Leonard’s loosely zippered pants. While Leonard frantically tried to free the entangled white sphere from his knickers, the batter-runner reached first.

    Ruled an infield fly

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    Sadly, there has never been a MLB player with the last name “Dick,”

    ….. J.R. Richard?

  • Steve May | July 29, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”342721″]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]

    Looks like it’s this game
    http://www.flyershis...

    (Carson scored in the third) – the goalie was Mike Liut.

    Carson didn’t score in the other meeting they had in LA – http://www.flyershis... – and Liut was the goalie for that game too.

    This site is a tremendous resource for NHL historians by the way – and I think its all volunteer. http://hsp.flyershis... – they’re working on a database of NHL game summaries.

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    The ump immediately called the play dead.

    If the pitcher had managed to run to first with the ball still lodged in his shirt and touched the bag before the batter, would the batter have been called out?

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”342791″]

    The ump immediately called the play dead.[/quote]
    And the pitcher’s wife had a few comments about the “dead ball era” at their house.

  • mako | July 29, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”342771″][quote comment=”342766″]New Manchester Utd. away kit

    http://store.manutd....

    any thoughts on this??[/quote]

    The blue V-strip is nice. Just that. Nothing else. But I used to own a Man City jersey, so what else would you expect from me? ;)[/quote]

    Meh. I’m no Man U fan, but I actually don’t mind the color scheme. I think the weird V actually looks better on the away kit than it does on the home (white stripe on red). Are they trying to evoke those T-shirts with “I’m with Stupid” printed above an arrow pointing to the crotch? That may no longer be quite as appropriate now that Crissy Ronaldo’s decamped to Madrid.

    Seriously, though, it takes a lot of balls (ahem) to keep AIG as your sponsor these days….

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    techie/geekish youtube question

    someone once posted this, but of course, i neglected to write any of it down, so i will ask again

    if i wish to post a youtube video, but i don’t want to include the whole thing (say, for example, i want the last 10 seconds of a two-minute clip)…i believe there is a way to “code” that particular clip so it starts at the point in the video im wanting to show

    does anyone know/remember how to do this? i believe one of our more technically advanced readers once posted instructions on how to do so

    if you know how, please let me know! thanks much!

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”342796″]Sadly, there has never been a MLB player with the last name “Dick,”

    ….. J.R. Richard?[/quote]

    Outfielder Jim Dyck played from ’51 to ’56…or so.

  • gusto | July 29, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”342762″][quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes![/quote]

    The Chiefs do have a good uniform, I’d only make the change of adding a couple of the helmet arrowheads to the pants, and lose the stripes. That way, the pants design would be similar to the helmet. A very sharp look, IMO.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”342750″]Ricko, I thought the Astros wore white at home and cream on the road. They certainly wore cream at Shea Stadium in the legendary 1986 playoffs.[/quote]

    No, there was gray version, just posted a photo of it.
    In the last year(s) of the Tequila Sunrise, the Astros wore a navy hat with it, both home and road. Then the gray set I posted turned up as the road uni, with Rainbow Guts continuing at home. Later, the Adobe Cream appeared as the home uni, I believe alternating with Tequila Sunrise until it disappeared altogether in favor of Rainbow Shoulders (a navy jersey was added ;ater, if I’m not mistaken). At that point, there were white pants…anyway, I’m pretty sure there were.

    That’s why I asked about whether a pure white set ever existed, because it appears Adobe Cream was worn both home and road at some time. Perhaps when they dropped the Sunrise they went to white at home and Cream on the road?

    (K’now what, it might have been called “Alamo Cream”, come to think of it)

    —Ricko

  • LarenR | July 29, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”342801″]techie/geekish youtube question

    someone once posted this, but of course, i neglected to write any of it down, so i will ask again

    if i wish to post a youtube video, but i don’t want to include the whole thing (say, for example, i want the last 10 seconds of a two-minute clip)…i believe there is a way to “code” that particular clip so it starts at the point in the video im wanting to show

    does anyone know/remember how to do this? i believe one of our more technically advanced readers once posted instructions on how to do so

    if you know how, please let me know! thanks much![/quote]
    At the end of the URL add #t=__m__s where the blanks are filled with the time (i.e. 3:04 into the clip would be #t=3m04s)

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”342803″][quote comment=”342762″][quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes![/quote]

    The Chiefs do have a good uniform, I’d only make the change of adding a couple of the helmet arrowheads to the pants, and lose the stripes. That way, the pants design would be similar to the helmet. A very sharp look, IMO.[/quote]

    I dunno, with the possible exception of old gold or Vegas gold. in the pros or top level college programs stripeless pants—especially dark—look a little too much like “what ALLLL the girls are wearing to aerobics these days.”

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”342805″][quote comment=”342801″]techie/geekish youtube question

    someone once posted this, but of course, i neglected to write any of it down, so i will ask again

    if i wish to post a youtube video, but i don’t want to include the whole thing (say, for example, i want the last 10 seconds of a two-minute clip)…i believe there is a way to “code” that particular clip so it starts at the point in the video im wanting to show

    does anyone know/remember how to do this? i believe one of our more technically advanced readers once posted instructions on how to do so

    if you know how, please let me know! thanks much![/quote]
    At the end of the URL add #t=__m__s where the blanks are filled with the time (i.e. 3:04 into the clip would be #t=3m04s)[/quote]

    YES!!!!!

    that’s the ticket…thank you so much

  • Hibbsy | July 29, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”342787″][quote comment=”342768″][quote comment=”342759″][quote comment=\”342721\”]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]
    I\’m pretty sure that goalie is Mike Liut, who played for The Whale from 1984 through 1990. It looks like he just adapted his mask to the \”combination\” style…[/quote]
    Peter Sidorkiewicz?[/quote]

    I’ve never seen Sidorkiewicz don a hybrid mask. He only wore the Osgood “birdcage” style only.[/quote]

    It’s totally Mike Liut (#1).
    I think Peter Alphabet wore #30.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”342776″][quote comment=”342754″][quote comment=”342727″][quote comment=”342727″]

    or have a pole named after you[/quote]

    Milt Barber played for the Sox???[/quote]You sure it wasn’t Lee/Carlos May?

    (Right now I don’t have time to search Baseball-Reference for any Red Sox players named “Festivus”.)[/quote]

    ….Billy North?

    btw, I should have referenced “Stu” Barber before.
    Got him juxtaposed with Milt Pappas. I’m sure it will be much funnier now.[/quote]

    Steve Barber pitched for Orioles. Around the time Pappas, Stu Millers and them other fellas (I went to the Dizzy Dean school of announcing, as you can by my excellent electrocution and pronoun-ciation).

    —Ricko

  • Hibbsy | July 29, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    http://www.flickr.co...

    There isn’t enough Scotch in the world to get me to…

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”342812″]Vhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/65516705@N00/sets/72157601454235904/detail/

    There isn’t enough Scotch in the world to get me to…[/quote]

    (Supposed to be the link to those god-awful minor league hockey jerseys)

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]

    As it turned out, it actually has led to this…

    Would you, as a team owner, throw a ton of money at a guy who might, or might not, be suspended, and you don’t know yet for how long?

    As risky as signing Vick might be for PR reasons, the on-field reasons not to sign him are HUGE right now.

    Seriously, it could turn out you might as well have taken the money outside and lit it on fire

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”342810″]…them other fellas (I went to the Dizzy Dean school…[/quote]
    Them other fellas shoulda slud into second.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”342814″]… you might as well have taken the money outside and lit it on fire
    [/quote]
    Exactly how I feel when I pay taxes.

  • floormaster squeeze | July 29, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    Doesn’t the Fulchino case, who appears to have been fully buttoned while giving up a “ground rule single” into his shirt, show that it is a competitive disadvantage to go with a Pedro Porthole?

  • Jim BC | July 29, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”342809″][quote comment=”342787″][quote comment=”342768″][quote comment=”342759″][quote comment=\”342721\”]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]
    I\’m pretty sure that goalie is Mike Liut, who played for The Whale from 1984 through 1990. It looks like he just adapted his mask to the \”combination\” style…[/quote]
    Peter Sidorkiewicz?[/quote]

    I’ve never seen Sidorkiewicz don a hybrid mask. He only wore the Osgood “birdcage” style only.[/quote]

    It’s totally Mike Liut (#1).
    I think Peter Alphabet wore #30.[/quote]
    OK – you’re right – I didn’t think Liut ever wore that type of mask but here’s more proof…

    http://www.goaliesar...

  • Kek | July 29, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]
    yawn, here we go again.

    we’re not professional athletes, we can’t compare our lives to theirs, life’s not fair, blah, blah, blah

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”342819″]…
    we’re not professional athletes,[/quote]
    But I do support them (or NOT support them) via my wallet.

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”342814″][quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]

    As it turned out, it actually has led to this…

    Would you, as a team owner, throw a ton of money at a guy who might, or might not, be suspended, and you don’t know yet for how long?

    As risky as signing Vick might be for PR reasons, the on-field reasons not to sign him are HUGE right now.

    Seriously, it could turn out you might as well have taken the money outside and lit it on fire

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So is the week six thing still unconfirmed? I agree about the on field issues being huge. He wasn’t a great QB to begin with (no 60% completion season, no 3000yd season, only one season over 79 rating) and he’s sure to be worse now.

    If I were an owner (and i thought my locker room etc could handle it) I would consider bringing him for the minimum.

    As for the question of Vick compared to the rest of us I think it depends on the market for our skills vs. the perceived risk of hiring us. I think that as long as my crime wasn’t related to my field then I could get back in fairly easily. But I work in a job with high demand and little supply and I’m not as high profile as…well as anyone with a profile really so there’s little risk of public outcry. If an owner feels he can use Vick to win games and still make money he’ll do it. If owners feel he’s not worth the headaches they won’t sign him. The market for his skill set/baggage will be the determining factor like it is for people in other jobs.

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    Steve Barber pitched for Orioles. Around the time Pappas, Stu Millers and them other fellas (I went to the Dizzy Dean school of announcing, as you can by my excellent electrocution and pronoun-ciation).

    Pappas one of 3 players traded to the Reds for Frank Robinson.

  • Hibbsy | July 29, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”342819″][quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]
    yawn, here we go again.

    we’re not professional athletes, we can’t compare our lives to theirs, life’s not fair, blah, blah, blah[/quote]

    A yawn? And three blahs?

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    As I understand it, the specifics of the Vick reinstatement (in terms of when he actually can be on the field again) are about as clear as a hunk of bleu cheese. And I think maybe The Commish might have done it that way on purpose.

    How to suspend/ban a guy without really doing it? Make signing him as unattractive as possible, simply by putting a lotta “pending” and TBD elements in the deal.

  • dgc | July 29, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”342814″]
    Seriously, it could turn out you might as well have taken the money outside and lit it on fire

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Dan Snyder thinks this is a perfectly acceptable use for extra bills lying around.

  • Kek | July 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”342820″][quote comment=”342819″]…
    we’re not professional athletes,[/quote]
    But I do support them (or NOT support them) via my wallet.[/quote]
    Then don’t, that’s your choice. Boycott the team that signs him, don’t buy their gear or go to their games.

    His employer isn’t the NFL, it’s whatever teams opts to hire him. The Atlanta Falcons “fired him” prior to him going to jail.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”342819″][quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]
    yawn, here we go again.

    we’re not professional athletes, we can’t compare our lives to theirs, life’s not fair, blah, blah, blah[/quote]

    Yes, but “they risk career-ending injuries every day”!

    So does a drill-press operator, right?

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    extra bills lying around.

    are you referring to bruce smith?

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”342828″]extra bills lying around.

    are you referring to bruce smith?[/quote]

    And Andre Reed.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”342824″]
    How to suspend/ban a guy without really doing it? Make signing him as unattractive as possible, [/quote]

    IMHO Vick did this himself.

    But that’s just my opinion.

  • The Ghost of Ross Gload | July 29, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    The Chiefs’ arrowhead has always had a black outline. Sometime in the early 70s, they both reduced the size of the arrowhead and made that black outline heaver. Compare some Super Bowl IV photos to some recent shots and you’ll see the difference.

    But the arrowhead on #51 (Jim Lynch) does appear quite a bit larger than it does on Bobby Bell (#78). I suspect that’s an optical illusion caused partly by the long lens (the players really aren’t that far apart, that has to be the second base dirt they are standing in) and partly by the angle of Lynch’s head.

    [quote comment=”342762″][quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes![/quote]

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”342830″][quote comment=”342824″]
    How to suspend/ban a guy without really doing it? Make signing him as unattractive as possible, [/quote]

    IMHO Vick did this himself.

    But that’s just my opinion.[/quote]

    Yeah he did. Don’t want your career in limbo? Don’t get involved in a criminal conspiracy. It’s pretty simple.

    I agree with the analysis that the suspension doesn’t really hurt his chances of being signed. he’s out of shape and has to learn a new offense that isn’t tailored to him. He wasn’t likely to see the field in week one anyway. Also this take the pressure off of him to come in and be a star right away. I’d see that as a potential positive if I were a coach (I’m sure that’s on the long list of reasons I’m not a coach).

    In other news, Marcus Vick remains unsigned.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    “The Chiefs’ arrowhead has always had a black outline.”

    Indeed it has. That photo is extremely “hot”, over-exposed. Bet the original negative is very thin. The whites (even in the crowd) are bluming all over the place, making the arrowhead’s black outline virtually disappear. Damn, I bet that day was a hot one.

    Now, the state of Texas on the Texans helmets, that had no black outline.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”342826″][quote comment=”342820″][quote comment=”342819″]…
    we’re not professional athletes,[/quote]
    But I do support them (or NOT support them) via my wallet.[/quote]
    Then don’t, that’s your choice. Boycott the team that signs him, don’t buy their gear or go to their games.

    His employer isn’t the NFL, it’s whatever teams opts to hire him. The Atlanta Falcons “fired him” prior to him going to jail.[/quote]

    Exactly-the Falcons did fire him.

    I’m 99.9999999% a “consumer” of the Chicago Bears. But OTOH, as a consumer of the Bears, twice a year I’m put in the distasteful position of being a consumer of the Packers; and so on and so forth. IOW, I have no desire to support Vick monetarily in even the smallest way (i.e., on the other team) but I might be asked to via his signing with say, the Vikings.

    I recognize the Commish did as much as possible under the circumstances, but OTOH three years ago many of the Falcons’ fans made it abundantly clear that they weren’t happy to see Vick in a red/black uni. It’s up to us (those who don’t want to see Vick) to convince the collection of teams and sponsors who make up the NFL that we don’t want to see him in any color uniform.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    On a more lighthearted note…the SI swimsuit issue started a little earlier than I thought.

    http://vault.sportsi...

    And if you hit “next” you’ll see the cover featuring George Blanda explaining why it’s “great to be young and an Oakland Raider”. :-))

  • Kek | July 29, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”342823″][quote comment=”342819″][quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]
    yawn, here we go again.

    we’re not professional athletes, we can’t compare our lives to theirs, life’s not fair, blah, blah, blah[/quote]

    A yawn? And three blahs?[/quote]
    Yeah, well, I guess I’m just tired of all this rhetoric. It’s just funny to me that we’ve got womanizers, racists and cheats in the baseball HOF, guys that had to sit out a season of the NFL for gambling in Karras and Hornung (supposedly the worst offense an athlete can commit), guys who have DUIs, have beat women, fathered several children with multiple mothers, the list goes on and on. Yet, a guy does the crime and does the time and now we want the league to outright BAN him?

    My position, as I stated last time around, is that league-mandated stuff is wrong. Just let the free market decide. Don’t you think the free market’s done a good job with Pac Man? Training camp is right around the corner (if not started in some cases) and it’s not as if teams are breaking down the door to sign him.

    Not really Vick related, but just a social commentary in general. If one substituted “the government” for “NFL” in some cases of league doings, people would be up in arms.

    Salary caps, revenue sharing and the parity of the NFL, things that the majority of us fans think of as “good things”, if our government imposed those type of things on industry, people would be shouting “SOCIALISM” from the mountaintops (and rightfully so).

    Sure there are anti-monopoly laws, but you wouldn’t see Microsoft having to essentially let other operating system makers to “catch up” as far as competition goes (which is pretty much what the NFL does).

    If a computer hacker does something illegal and gets thrown in jail, when they get out, does the FTC or some other government agency ban that person from working again in their field? No, but those companies may steer clear of hiring that person (or they might take a chance and bring them in). The point is, the choice is theirs. The free market decides. Is the hacker worth the risk?

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”342835″]Now, the state of Texas on the Texans helmets, that had no black outline.
    [/quote]
    Residents of NM, LA, OK, AK, and Mexico have been trying to get a more secure border for YEARS.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    re: Signing Vick, i would wager that in the power group of every NFL team (meaning the coach, GM, owners, et al) there is one more influential family member somewhere saying,
    “Don’t … you… DARE.”

  • Mike Engle | July 29, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    http://sports.espn.g...
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    nice points douggie

    but lets be realists here

    if “given the chance,” does davis or jones sign him first?

  • bill | July 29, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”342790″][quote comment=”342770″]Here is a gallery of the updates to Neyland Stadium

    http://www.utsports....

    yuck.

    there should be ban on luxury suites at college football stadiums. keep those for the lame-o NFL atmosphere.

    Nothing says college football like big donors sitting in climate controlled suites while being served food by a waitstaff!!! (eyeroll)

    Sorry, but give me a brat, a metal bench, and 3 hours of football to sober me up from the 5 hour tailgate![/quote]

    I am with you on this one but the people who will sit there belong to an entirely different demographic.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”342838″]
    Yeah, well, I guess I’m just tired of all this rhetoric. It’s just funny to me that we’ve got womanizers, racists and cheats in the baseball HOF, guys that had to sit out a season of the NFL for gambling in Karras and Hornung (supposedly the worst offense an athlete can commit), guys who have DUIs, have beat women, fathered several children with multiple mothers, the list goes on and on. Yet, a guy does the crime and does the time and now we want the league to outright BAN him?…[/quote]

    I guess my first though would be to separate the things that are jailable offenses (AFAIK, the wife-beaters, DUI’s and Vick on your list) from the anti-societal values offenses (womanizers, etc.)

    Then I guess I would ask what the NFL (as in Goddell) did with those DUI-type crimes and try to get Vick somewhere on that continum of suspensions.

    Overall, I support the free market thoughts, but those have to be tempered with the idea that the NFL isn’t a typical free market enterprise.

    No organization with either a codified or a quasi-legal anti trust exemption has to play by all of Adam Smith’s rules.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”342838″][quote comment=”342823″][quote comment=”342819″][quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]
    yawn, here we go again.

    we’re not professional athletes, we can’t compare our lives to theirs, life’s not fair, blah, blah, blah[/quote]

    A yawn? And three blahs?[/quote]
    Yeah, well, I guess I’m just tired of all this rhetoric. It’s just funny to me that we’ve got womanizers, racists and cheats in the baseball HOF, guys that had to sit out a season of the NFL for gambling in Karras and Hornung (supposedly the worst offense an athlete can commit), guys who have DUIs, have beat women, fathered several children with multiple mothers, the list goes on and on. Yet, a guy does the crime and does the time and now we want the league to outright BAN him?

    My position, as I stated last time around, is that league-mandated stuff is wrong. Just let the free market decide. Don’t you think the free market’s done a good job with Pac Man? Training camp is right around the corner (if not started in some cases) and it’s not as if teams are breaking down the door to sign him.

    Not really Vick related, but just a social commentary in general. If one substituted “the government” for “NFL” in some cases of league doings, people would be up in arms.

    Salary caps, revenue sharing and the parity of the NFL, things that the majority of us fans think of as “good things”, if our government imposed those type of things on industry, people would be shouting “SOCIALISM” from the mountaintops (and rightfully so).

    Sure there are anti-monopoly laws, but you wouldn’t see Microsoft having to essentially let other operating system makers to “catch up” as far as competition goes (which is pretty much what the NFL does).

    If a computer hacker does something illegal and gets thrown in jail, when they get out, does the FTC or some other government agency ban that person from working again in their field? No, but those companies may steer clear of hiring that person (or they might take a chance and bring them in). The point is, the choice is theirs. The free market decides. Is the hacker worth the risk?[/quote]

    No doubt the best way would be the Barry Bonds scenario: Nobody hires him.

    I never said, btw, that the NFL should suspend him. All I said was that, legally, he did not have a RIGHT to a pro football career. No one does….and those who contended he did simply because he’s served his time in prison didn’t understand what was going on…and were propagating the myth that big-time athletes are born to do only that, and we should never prevent them from doing it, not matter calculating criminal and organized their misdeeds. In this case, to which he plead guilty, btw.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”342840″]”Don’t … you… DARE.”[/quote]Let’s bring it down to cases Ricko.

    How about your hometown Vikes? Childress? The owner? Who?

    The Bungles?

    OAKLAND???

    We’ll see; but IMHO somewhere along the line, by the time a team has played both it’s home exhibitions they’ll announce Vick as quietly as possible.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    i guess this means the deal with doc fell thru

    /doesn’t really bother me…the mets are 10.5 back in the east, and 5.5 back in the WC, with like seven teams ahead of them…so their chances this season are somewhere between slim and none
    //thanks to bernazard, among others, the mets have no talent and no farm system to speak of, so it’s not like they could make any deals anyway
    ///(wow…three slashies) better to be out of the race now and not make any stupid moves to “match” the WFCs and just play the string out…blame it on injuries and bernazard, and start fresh in the off-season

  • Mike Engle | July 29, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”342844″][quote comment=”342838″]
    Yeah, well, I guess I’m just tired of all this rhetoric. It’s just funny to me that we’ve got womanizers, racists and cheats in the baseball HOF, guys that had to sit out a season of the NFL for gambling in Karras and Hornung (supposedly the worst offense an athlete can commit), guys who have DUIs, have beat women, fathered several children with multiple mothers, the list goes on and on. Yet, a guy does the crime and does the time and now we want the league to outright BAN him?…[/quote]

    I guess my first though would be to separate the things that are jailable offenses (AFAIK, the wife-beaters, DUI’s and Vick on your list) from the anti-societal values offenses (womanizers, etc.)

    Then I guess I would ask what the NFL (as in Goddell) did with those DUI-type crimes and try to get Vick somewhere on that continum of suspensions.

    Overall, I support the free market thoughts, but those have to be tempered with the idea that the NFL isn’t a typical free market enterprise.

    No organization with either a codified or a quasi-legal anti trust exemption has to play by all of Adam Smith’s rules.[/quote]
    {slight sarcasm>
    It’s a different NFL now. Out with Tagliabue, in with Goodell. Don’t think personal conduct is a sign of that? Look at the Sean Taylor fest. Never would have happened with Tagliabue. When PT was in charge, Jake Plummer couldn’t wear roommate Pat Tillman’s sticker past Week 1 because Plummer wasn’t a Cardinal; John Lynch and Champ Bailey couldn’t borrow Darrent Williams’ #27 for the PRO BOWL either.
    For the record, I like the Vick decision. Can’t let him back right away because he lied multiple times to RG, owner Blank, and GM McKay. But let him practice in a real NFL facility if he gets a contract.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”342845″]to which he plead guilty…[/quote]
    Hey Diz, your language skeelz are showin’.

    :-)

  • Hibbsy | July 29, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”342838″][quote comment=”342823″][quote comment=”342819″][quote comment=”342811″]I hate to bring up Mike Prick, again, but how many of us would be allowed back in our careers after ONE DAY in jail? I wouldn’t.
    Sorry for beating a dead horse, so you need not reply to this.[/quote]
    yawn, here we go again.

    we’re not professional athletes, we can’t compare our lives to theirs, life’s not fair, blah, blah, blah[/quote]

    A yawn? And three blahs?[/quote]
    Yeah, well, I guess I’m just tired of all this rhetoric. It’s just funny to me that we’ve got womanizers, racists and cheats in the baseball HOF, guys that had to sit out a season of the NFL for gambling in Karras and Hornung (supposedly the worst offense an athlete can commit), guys who have DUIs, have beat women, fathered several children with multiple mothers, the list goes on and on. Yet, a guy does the crime and does the time and now we want the league to outright BAN him?

    My position, as I stated last time around, is that league-mandated stuff is wrong. Just let the free market decide. Don’t you think the free market’s done a good job with Pac Man? Training camp is right around the corner (if not started in some cases) and it’s not as if teams are breaking down the door to sign him.

    Not really Vick related, but just a social commentary in general. If one substituted “the government” for “NFL” in some cases of league doings, people would be up in arms.

    Salary caps, revenue sharing and the parity of the NFL, things that the majority of us fans think of as “good things”, if our government imposed those type of things on industry, people would be shouting “SOCIALISM” from the mountaintops (and rightfully so).

    Sure there are anti-monopoly laws, but you wouldn’t see Microsoft having to essentially let other operating system makers to “catch up” as far as competition goes (which is pretty much what the NFL does).

    If a computer hacker does something illegal and gets thrown in jail, when they get out, does the FTC or some other government agency ban that person from working again in their field? No, but those companies may steer clear of hiring that person (or they might take a chance and bring them in). The point is, the choice is theirs. The free market decides. Is the hacker worth the risk?[/quote]

    I never said “ban him”. Do I want a team to sign him? Of course not.
    I would like to see him get another job for at least a year or so. That’s what most of us would have to do. It could be good for him.
    I wish the Falcons had it in their authority to fire whomever designed their current logo and uniforms.

  • Kek | July 29, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”342844″][quote comment=”342838″]
    Yeah, well, I guess I’m just tired of all this rhetoric. It’s just funny to me that we’ve got womanizers, racists and cheats in the baseball HOF, guys that had to sit out a season of the NFL for gambling in Karras and Hornung (supposedly the worst offense an athlete can commit), guys who have DUIs, have beat women, fathered several children with multiple mothers, the list goes on and on. Yet, a guy does the crime and does the time and now we want the league to outright BAN him?…[/quote]

    I guess my first though would be to separate the things that are jailable offenses (AFAIK, the wife-beaters, DUI’s and Vick on your list) from the anti-societal values offenses (womanizers, etc.)

    Then I guess I would ask what the NFL (as in Goddell) did with those DUI-type crimes and try to get Vick somewhere on that continum of suspensions.

    Overall, I support the free market thoughts, but those have to be tempered with the idea that the NFL isn’t a typical free market enterprise.

    No organization with either a codified or a quasi-legal anti trust exemption has to play by all of Adam Smith’s rules.[/quote]
    Your point is well taken. Good dialogue.

  • Kek | July 29, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”342845″][quote comment=”342811″]

    No doubt the best way would be the Barry Bonds scenario: Nobody hires him.[/quote]

    I never said, btw, that the NFL should suspend him. All I said was that, legally, he did not have a RIGHT to a pro football career. No one does….and those who contended he did simply because he’s served his time in prison didn’t understand what was going on…and were propagating the myth that big-time athletes are born to do only that, and we should never prevent them from doing it, not matter calculating criminal and organized their misdeeds. In this case, to which he plead guilty, btw.[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I’m talking about Ricko, BB is the perfect example. Do I think an AL team could take a chance on him as a DH and take advantage of a few more HRs that are most likely in his bat? Sure. But, do they want the media circus and negative impact that might have on their team? Apparently not!

    Like I said previously, I’m hardly a Mike Vick fan as far as on-the-field goes. I’m only saying I think he ought to get a second chance. Maybe a humbling, league-minimum chance, but a second chance nonetheless.

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    “Not really Vick related, but just a social commentary in general. If one substituted “the government” for “NFL” in some cases of league doings, people would be up in arms.”

    The government does ban felons from doing all kinds of things. I’m guessing Vick can’t vote, own a gun, travel at will, and would have (at least) a really hard time getting a government job. No one seems to mind.

    I’m ambivalent. If the league wants to suspend him 6 weeks I’m OK with that. If the league had decided not to suspend him at all I’d have been OK with that too. In the end the market will decide.

    As a hater I will say I would love to see him go to Oakland. KABOOOOM!!!!

  • MPowers1634 | July 29, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    Alright…I am reaching out to my UW family.

    Tomorrow, I am making my first pilgrimmage

    Give me some heads up!

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”342846″][quote comment=”342840″]”Don’t … you… DARE.”[/quote]Let’s bring it down to cases Ricko.

    How about your hometown Vikes? Childress? The owner? Who?

    The Bungles?

    OAKLAND???

    We’ll see; but IMHO somewhere along the line, by the time a team has played both it’s home exhibitions they’ll announce Vick as quietly as possible.[/quote]

    But only if by then they have SOME feel for when he’ll actually be able to play. At the moment, it is SO undetermined. At this point, Goodell could still suspend him for the season. That, technically, very much remains on the table.

    And, has anyone heard how PETA’s gonna approach it? They’re nuts, make no mistake about it…but, frankly, an owner has to consider that factor very seriously. Do I really want major protests, et al, outside my stadium? Or worse? At best, it’s a PR nightmare.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”342850″][quote comment=”342845″]to which he plead guilty…[/quote]
    Hey Diz, your language skeelz are showin’.

    :-)[/quote]

    typo, plain and simple.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”342855″]Alright…I am reaching out to my UW family.

    Tomorrow, I am making my first pilgrimmage

    Give me some heads up![/quote]

    im not too good on powerspeak…

    but do you mean you’re taking in a game at the fens?

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”342858″][quote comment=”342855″]Alright…I am reaching out to my UW family.

    Tomorrow, I am making my first pilgrimmage

    Give me some heads up![/quote]

    im not too good on powerspeak…

    but do you mean you’re taking in a game at the fens?[/quote]

    Nah, the Powers Family is going to White Castle.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”342856″][quote comment=”342846″][quote comment=”342840″]”Don’t … you… DARE.”[/quote]Let’s bring it down to cases Ricko.

    How about your hometown Vikes? Childress? The owner? Who?

    The Bungles?

    OAKLAND???

    We’ll see; but IMHO somewhere along the line, by the time a team has played both it’s home exhibitions they’ll announce Vick as quietly as possible.[/quote]

    But only if by then they have SOME feel for when he’ll actually be able to play. At the moment, it is SO undetermined. At this point, Goodell could still suspend him for the season. That, technically, very much remains on the table.

    And, has anyone heard how PETA’s gonna approach it? They’re nuts, make no mistake about it…but, frankly, an owner has to consider that factor very seriously. Do I really want major protests, et al, outside my stadium? Or worse? At best, it’s a PR nightmare.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Especially (I meant to add) over my choice for backup quarterback?

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”342858″][quote comment=”342855″]Alright…I am reaching out to my UW family.

    Tomorrow, I am making my first pilgrimmage

    Give me some heads up![/quote]

    im not too good on powerspeak…

    but do you mean you’re taking in a game at the fens?[/quote]

    That was my guess. If so, get one of those big sausage and peppers out on Yawkey. Mmmmmmmm.

  • Hott Rodd | July 29, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”342855″]Alright…I am reaching out to my UW family.

    Tomorrow, I am making my first pilgrimmage

    Give me some heads up![/quote]

    I think he is going to Beaverton..

  • Chuck | July 29, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    this town (Cleveland) is in an uproar at the moment! I will give my thoughts at the UNI Watch party at the Prosperity Club tomorrow night. Anyone on this site going? I will be the guy with the Tokyo Giants road jersey, please feel free to say hello!

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    re: Cliff Lee.
    Did anyone hear ANY national talking head say that deal was coming?
    Granted, my sleep schedule has been messed up lately so I’m a little groggy, but all I remember hearing was “Halladay-Phillies” over and over.

    Seems to me the media got flanked big time on this one.
    Just goes to show you, the easiest place to look still is where the light is shining the brightest. Not always the best, but always the easiest.

    —Ricko

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”342864″][quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    re: Cliff Lee.
    Did anyone hear ANY national talking head say that deal was coming?
    Granted, my sleep schedule has been messed up lately so I’m a little groggy, but all I remember hearing was “Halladay-Phillies” over and over.

    Seems to me the media got flanked big time on this one.
    Just goes to show you, the easiest place to look still is where the light is shining the brightest. Not always the best, but always the easiest.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve seen some talk the last couple days. Who did they give up? I can’t get espn here.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”342865″]I’ve seen some talk the last couple days. Who did they give up? I can’t get espn here.[/quote]

    “Phillies acquire LHP Cliff Lee and OF Ben Francisco from the Indians for four minor leaguers“[quote]

  • chance michaels | July 29, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”342864″][quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    re: Cliff Lee.
    Did anyone hear ANY national talking head say that deal was coming?
    Granted, my sleep schedule has been messed up lately so I’m a little groggy, but all I remember hearing was “Halladay-Phillies” over and over.

    Seems to me the media got flanked big time on this one.
    Just goes to show you, the easiest place to look still is where the light is shining the brightest. Not always the best, but always the easiest.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    It was mentioned a couple times on ESPN’s “Baseball Today” podcast. Think it might have been Tim Kurkjian.

  • the rAKe | July 29, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”342809″][quote comment=”342787″][quote comment=”342768″][quote comment=”342759″][quote comment=\”342721\”]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]
    I\’m pretty sure that goalie is Mike Liut, who played for The Whale from 1984 through 1990. It looks like he just adapted his mask to the \”combination\” style…[/quote]
    Peter Sidorkiewicz?[/quote]

    I’ve never seen Sidorkiewicz don a hybrid mask. He only wore the Osgood “birdcage” style only.[/quote]

    It’s totally Mike Liut (#1).
    I think Peter Alphabet wore #30.[/quote]

    If my last name is alphabet…you can bet I’m wearing #26

  • the rAKe | July 29, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”342716″]Great dedication to the fastest man in the game. Especially wearing a turtleneck.[/quote]

    Ever heard of a “dickey”?

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”342831″]The Chiefs’ arrowhead has always had a black outline. Sometime in the early 70s, they both reduced the size of the arrowhead and made that black outline heaver. Compare some Super Bowl IV photos to some recent shots and you’ll see the difference.

    But the arrowhead on #51 (Jim Lynch) does appear quite a bit larger than it does on Bobby Bell (#78). I suspect that’s an optical illusion caused partly by the long lens (the players really aren’t that far apart, that has to be the second base dirt they are standing in) and partly by the angle of Lynch’s head.

    [quote comment=”342762″][quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes![/quote][/quote]

    The outline must have been tiny in the ’60s, because on this photo http://www.hworth.ne... it seems darn near imperceptible.

  • HIJKMNOP | July 29, 2009 at 4:34 pm |

    If my last name is alphabet…you can bet I’m wearing #26

    Or #25

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”342871″]If my last name is alphabet…you can bet I’m wearing #26

    Or #25[/quote]

    been meaning to comment on your “handle”

    HIJKMNOP

    “no L” (“noel”)

    very clever

    reminds me of this holiday card

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”342866″][quote comment=”342865″]I’ve seen some talk the last couple days. Who did they give up? I can’t get espn here.[/quote]

    “Phillies acquire LHP Cliff Lee and OF Ben Francisco from the Indians for four minor leaguers“[quote][/quote]

    Paul, you’re safe in my company, but Thursday you may be dealing with some even more dejected and cynical than usual Tribe fans. You may want to ask those wearing Indians apparel to remove their belts and shoelaces before entering the bar.

    Just checked my Facebook page and wow, are my friends in the dumper right now. If anyone out there has excellent PR skills, you may want to send a resume to the Indians front office.

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”342863″][quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    this town (Cleveland) is in an uproar at the moment! I will give my thoughts at the UNI Watch party at the Prosperity Club tomorrow night. Anyone on this site going? I will be the guy with the Tokyo Giants road jersey, please feel free to say hello![/quote]

    Hello!

    I’ll say it Thursday as well. What to wear, what to wear…

  • flip | July 29, 2009 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    Affirmed.
    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

  • Hott Rodd | July 29, 2009 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”342872″][quote comment=”342871″]If my last name is alphabet…you can bet I’m wearing #26

    Or #25[/quote]

    been meaning to comment on your “handle”

    HIJKMNOP

    “no L” (“noel”)

    very clever

    reminds me of this holiday card[/quote]

    Or the Holiday typewriter…

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”342874″]I’ll say it Thursday as well. What to wear, what to wear…[/quote]

    i asked the same question in january…heh ;)

  • HIJKMNOP | July 29, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”342872″][quote comment=”342871″]If my last name is alphabet…you can bet I’m wearing #26

    Or #25[/quote]

    been meaning to comment on your “handle”

    HIJKMNOP

    “no L” (“noel”)

    very clever

    reminds me of this holiday card[/quote]

    Your powers of deductive reasoning are commendable!

    (However, I use the one-syllable Anglo pronunciation that rhymes with Joel).

  • Matt Brosseau | July 29, 2009 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”342864″]

    Seems to me the media got flanked big time on this one.
    Just goes to show you, the easiest place to look still is where the light is shining the brightest. Not always the best, but always the easiest.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You might say they flunked flank…”get the flunk out of here!”

  • HIJKMNOP | July 29, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    Or the Holiday typewriter…

    Help me out with this…Ferris, anyone….?

  • Nick | July 29, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    I am not a big fan of Red football unis, but I have to say, this era KC Chiefs uni is PERFECT !!!

    From the dark shoes, coordinated trimings, jersey numerals just a bit smaller than the regular template, the Dungard facemasks, on an on and on.

    The KC Chiefs uni ROCKS !!!!

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”342880″]Or the Holiday typewriter…

    Help me out with this…Ferris, anyone….?[/quote]

    Still the same punch line as the other jokes in the thread.

  • Nick | July 29, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”342767″][quote comment=”342764″][quote comment=”342747″]

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?[/quote]

    It does appear to be a Ravens logo at first glance. But, I think you’re right that the intent was the NFL shield.[/quote]Any possibility that the cartoonist went back to Favre’s Southern Mississippi days?[/quote]

    Does anyone have a photograb of Brett Favre’s freshman/sophomore USM uni with the Old Gold jerseys?

    AWESOME look. Watched him come off of the bench in his freshman year against Tulane and KILL them. A star was born, and he went on to stardom.

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”342877″][quote comment=”342874″]I’ll say it Thursday as well. What to wear, what to wear…[/quote]

    i asked the same question in january…heh ;)[/quote]

    Would you like to save me a search though the archives and tell us what you ended up with?

  • Giancarlo | July 29, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    Regarding the Chiefs’ helmets
    1. As you may know, many NFL helmet insignias have shrunk since the ’60s/early ’70s, including the Vikings’, the Dolphins’, and the Saints’. That’s been the general trend.
    2. The reason for this, as Ricko explained in some earlier entry, is the redesign of helmets to put straps & their snaps in different spots which resulted in large logos getting obscured.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”342884″][quote comment=”342877″][quote comment=”342874″]I’ll say it Thursday as well. What to wear, what to wear…[/quote]

    i asked the same question in january…heh ;)[/quote]

    Would you like to save me a search though the archives and tell us what you ended up with?[/quote]

    here … NY party wrap

  • Nick | July 29, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”342806″][quote comment=”342803″][quote comment=”342762″][quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes![/quote]

    The Chiefs do have a good uniform, I’d only make the change of adding a couple of the helmet arrowheads to the pants, and lose the stripes. That way, the pants design would be similar to the helmet. A very sharp look, IMO.[/quote]

    I dunno, with the possible exception of old gold or Vegas gold. in the pros or top level college programs stripeless pants—especially dark—look a little too much like “what ALLLL the girls are wearing to aerobics these days.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Agree with Ricko on this one.

    How many times does the same logo have to appear on the uni? I say twice … on each side of the helmet, with the sole exceptions being the Steelers, with ONE side of the helmety, and the Browns, with NONE.

    The Bengals – I don’t know. They need a team of helpers, working on them, looking at them, observing their behavoir …. They need to go to Vienna, and have a team of scientists fix their problem …. kind of like George Costanza needed when he held out for “Artistic Integrity” and the “Ted Danson” money …

  • Hibbsy | July 29, 2009 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”342878″][quote comment=”342872″][quote comment=”342871″]If my last name is alphabet…you can bet I’m wearing #26

    Or #25[/quote]

    been meaning to comment on your “handle”

    HIJKMNOP

    “no L” (“noel”)

    very clever

    reminds me of this holiday card[/quote]

    Your powers of deductive reasoning are commendable!

    (However, I use the one-syllable Anglo pronunciation that rhymes with Joel).[/quote]
    Like Noel Redding?

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 5:13 pm |

    Lots of good one-liners today. I think leon and anotherguy should do an act on the road. I’d watch that, and tip my waitress afterward.

    Let’s see, how to put a stop to the Vick chatter…Hey, what’s the deal with Brett Favre?

    Just kidding. In fact, can we declare a voluntary moratorium on discussions of Vick and Favre at the UW gathering? Maybe we could have a jar or coffee can there, and anytime someone brings up their names they have to contribute to it. Just an idea.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”342856″]And, has anyone heard how PETA’s gonna approach it? They’re nuts, make no mistake about it…but, frankly, an owner has to consider that factor very seriously. Do I really want major protests, et al, outside my stadium? Or worse? At best, it’s a PR nightmare.[/quote]

    I hope so. That’s why I mentioned sponsors above. People started pulling ads when Modell announced he was moving the Browns: there’s a chance that could happen with Vick too.

    I’m not a big PETA fan myself, but this case transcends PETA for me.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”342870″][quote comment=”342831″]The Chiefs’ arrowhead has always had a black outline. Sometime in the early 70s, they both reduced the size of the arrowhead and made that black outline heaver. Compare some Super Bowl IV photos to some recent shots and you’ll see the difference.

    But the arrowhead on #51 (Jim Lynch) does appear quite a bit larger than it does on Bobby Bell (#78). I suspect that’s an optical illusion caused partly by the long lens (the players really aren’t that far apart, that has to be the second base dirt they are standing in) and partly by the angle of Lynch’s head.

    [quote comment=”342762″][quote comment=”342752″][quote comment=”342742″]KC Chiefs awesome red shoes! [/quote]

    Man, that arrowhead on #51’s helmet looks HUGE.[/quote]

    That’s because they put a black outline on the arrowhead nowadays. Guess black really does have a slimming effect. I liked it better the old way, though. And I dig those red shoes![/quote][/quote]

    The outline must have been tiny in the ’60s, because on this photo http://www.hworth.ne... it seems darn near imperceptible.[/quote]

    It got thicker over the years, yes, but both the entwined “KC” and arrowhead always have been edged in black. Remember noticing that as a difference from the Texans state silhouette way back in ’63 when Pro Football Weekly ran a closeup photo of the team’s new helmet (I thought I still had the specific clip, but couldn’t find it the last time I looked in my Chiefs file).

    —Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | July 29, 2009 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”342889″]Lots of good one-liners today. I think leon and anotherguy should do an act on the road. I’d watch that, and tip my waitress afterward.

    Let’s see, how to put a stop to the Vick chatter…Hey, what’s the deal with Brett Favre?

    Just kidding. In fact, can we declare a voluntary moratorium on discussions of Vick and Favre at the UW gathering? Maybe we could have a jar or coffee can there, and anytime someone brings up their names they have to contribute to it. Just an idea.[/quote]

    Or better yet, a drinking game: Anyone who mentions V— or F—- has to buy everyone a drink. Or at least buy one for me….

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”342885″]Regarding the Chiefs’ helmets
    1. As you may know, many NFL helmet insignias have shrunk since the ’60s/early ’70s, including the Vikings’, the Dolphins’, and the Saints’. That’s been the general trend.
    2. The reason for this, as Ricko explained in some earlier entry, is the redesign of helmets to put straps & their snaps in different spots which resulted in large logos getting obscured.[/quote]

    That, plus today’s players have really big heads…

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”342863″][quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    this town (Cleveland) is in an uproar at the moment! I will give my thoughts at the UNI Watch party at the Prosperity Club tomorrow night. Anyone on this site going? I will be the guy with the Tokyo Giants road jersey, please feel free to say hello![/quote]

    What number? Just, y’know, in case.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”342889″]Just kidding. In fact, can we declare a voluntary moratorium on discussions of Vick and Favre at the UW gathering? Maybe we could have a jar or coffee can there, and anytime someone brings up their names they have to contribute to it. Just an idea.[/quote]
    I don’t claim to know all the rules about the blog, but maybe we could set up PayPal for all the times people say “I clicked on the link but I can’t see what’s wrong with that picture…” :-)

    Want to start a new discussion? Apparently Brian Urlacher called Jay Cutler a pus…. er, a he called him a cat.

    Even more vague rumors are that it started with an argument over/about a woman.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”342894″]What number? Just, y’know, in case.[/quote]Yeah, yeah; as if there’s going to be two ROAD jerseys there tonight.

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”342892″][quote comment=”342889″]Lots of good one-liners today. I think leon and anotherguy should do an act on the road. I’d watch that, and tip my waitress afterward.

    Let’s see, how to put a stop to the Vick chatter…Hey, what’s the deal with Brett Favre?

    Just kidding. In fact, can we declare a voluntary moratorium on discussions of Vick and Favre at the UW gathering? Maybe we could have a jar or coffee can there, and anytime someone brings up their names they have to contribute to it. Just an idea.[/quote]

    Or better yet, a drinking game: Anyone who mentions V— or F—- has to buy everyone a drink. Or at least buy one for me….[/quote]

    I’ll drink to that!

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”342897″][quote comment=”342892″][quote comment=”342889″]Lots of good one-liners today. I think leon and anotherguy should do an act on the road. I’d watch that, and tip my waitress afterward.

    Let’s see, how to put a stop to the Vick chatter…Hey, what’s the deal with Brett Favre?

    Just kidding. In fact, can we declare a voluntary moratorium on discussions of Vick and Favre at the UW gathering? Maybe we could have a jar or coffee can there, and anytime someone brings up their names they have to contribute to it. Just an idea.[/quote]

    Or better yet, a drinking game: Anyone who mentions V— or F—- has to buy everyone a drink. Or at least buy one for me….[/quote]

    I’ll drink to that![/quote]

    I ain’t over ’til all the purple Favre jerseys are enroute to Somalia.

  • MPowers1634 | July 29, 2009 at 5:27 pm |

    Fenway, it is!

    Nike will have to wait.

  • HIJKMNOP | July 29, 2009 at 5:28 pm |

    Like Noel Redding?

    Yes

    And I am particularly delighted to read a Hendrix
    reference.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    Honestly, I was figuring Favre would blow out a knee in the second quarter of the opener anyway.

    Life has a way of jerking Viking fans around like that. LOL

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”342866″][quote comment=”342865″]I’ve seen some talk the last couple days. Who did they give up? I can’t get espn here.[/quote]

    “Phillies acquire LHP Cliff Lee and OF Ben Francisco from the Indians for four minor leaguers“[quote][/quote]

    My Pirates are dealin’ again: http://sports.espn.g...
    Anyone else see the eventual merger of the Bucs and Tribe? Together they might become a viable contender…for the AAA championship.

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    Vickings?

    (Sorry, couldn’t help myself).

  • Berto | July 29, 2009 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”342901″]Honestly, I was figuring Favre would blow out a knee in the second quarter of the opener anyway.

    Life has a way of jerking Viking fans around like that. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    “Gary Anderson”

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”342895″][quote comment=”342889″]Just kidding. In fact, can we declare a voluntary moratorium on discussions of Vick and Favre at the UW gathering? Maybe we could have a jar or coffee can there, and anytime someone brings up their names they have to contribute to it. Just an idea.[/quote]
    I don’t claim to know all the rules about the blog, but maybe we could set up PayPal for all the times people say “I clicked on the link but I can’t see what’s wrong with that picture…” :-)

    Want to start a new discussion? Apparently Brian Urlacher called Jay Cutler a pus…. er, a he called him a cat.

    Even more vague rumors are that it started with an argument over/about a woman.[/quote]

    Ah, the ongoing bad kharma for anyone playing QB for the Bears begins already, huh?

    I swear, if God came down and played QB in Chicago he’d have passer rating of 52 (possibly because his #1 would look like an upper case “I”?). “Oh, great, God’s out there showing there IS an I in team.”

    —Ricko

  • Chuck | July 29, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”342894″][quote comment=”342863″][quote comment=”342841″]http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4363553
    Paul and Phil, your thoughts?[/quote]

    this town (Cleveland) is in an uproar at the moment! I will give my thoughts at the UNI Watch party at the Prosperity Club tomorrow night. Anyone on this site going? I will be the guy with the Tokyo Giants road jersey, please feel free to say hello![/quote]

    What number? Just, y’know, in case.[/quote]

    no number. it is a replica.

  • NickW | July 29, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”342904″][quote comment=”342901″]Honestly, I was figuring Favre would blow out a knee in the second quarter of the opener anyway.

    Life has a way of jerking Viking fans around like that. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    “Gary Anderson”[/quote]

    [pounds computer desk with fist] “DAMN!”

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”342901″]Honestly, I was figuring Favre would blow out a knee in the second quarter of the opener anyway.[/quote]
    He’d be covered under Medicare, correct?

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”342905″]Ah, the ongoing bad kharma for anyone playing QB for the Bears begins already, huh?[/quote]
    Bad Karma? Please, the proud QB tradition of the Bears goes all the way back to Sid Luckman, and continues in an unbroken line right up to Sid Luckman’s time.

  • leon | July 29, 2009 at 5:44 pm |

    What number?

    one
    son

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”342903″]Vickings?[/quote]
    Well, you have to admit the guy on the motorcycle would have to think twice before he ran around with the teddy bear in a noose if Minnesota did sign Vick.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”342909″][quote comment=”342905″]Ah, the ongoing bad kharma for anyone playing QB for the Bears begins already, huh?[/quote]
    Bad Karma? Please, the proud QB tradition of the Bears goes all the way back to Sid Luckman, and continues in an unbroken line right up to Sid Luckman’s time.[/quote]

    Rudy Bukich lead the NFL in passing one year while he was with the Bears.
    No kidding. THE Rudy Bukich. With the Bears.

    (Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air).

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”342912″]Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air.[/quote]

    shit…reminds me of someone else who could do that

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”342912″](Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air).[/quote]
    Vince Evans played for the Bears.

    Bobby Douglas played for the Bears.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”342914″][quote comment=”342912″](Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air).[/quote]
    Vince Evans played for the Bears.

    Bobby Douglas played for the Bears.[/quote]

    …and Bob Avellini.
    Jack Concannon, too.
    Steve Walsh.
    Some guy named MacMahon had a decent year, though.

    Actually, we’re proving the point, aren’t we: No “franchise QB” since Luckman…who played before anyone knew what a “franchise QB” was.

  • mike 2 | July 29, 2009 at 6:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”342890″][quote comment=”342856″]And, has anyone heard how PETA’s gonna approach it? They’re nuts, make no mistake about it…but, frankly, an owner has to consider that factor very seriously. Do I really want major protests, et al, outside my stadium? Or worse? At best, it’s a PR nightmare.[/quote]

    I hope so. That’s why I mentioned sponsors above. People started pulling ads when Modell announced he was moving the Browns: there’s a chance that could happen with Vick too.

    I’m not a big PETA fan myself, but this case transcends PETA for me.[/quote]

    Agreed. I’m not a PETA fan either, but I am a dog owner and the idea of torturing animals makes me sick. When I look at someone like him and what he did, I think “this guy thought it was okay to torture a defenceless animal”.

    Yes lots of athletes have done bad things, but each of us has their own hot buttons. Puppies and children are mine. If you’ve lost someone in a drunk driving accident, maybe there’s another athlete (Stallworth, McSorly) that makes you feel the same way as I feel about Vick.

  • mike 2 | July 29, 2009 at 6:31 pm |

    And by McSorley I meant McTavish. Ugh.

  • anotherguy | July 29, 2009 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”342915″]…and Bob Avellini.
    Jack Concannon, too.
    Steve Walsh.
    Some guy named MacMahon had a decent year, though.
    [/quote]
    Well, yeah: but my guys are the strong-arm duo to compare to Bukich.

    They didn’t make it to Canton any more than Concannon, Walsh, et al.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 6:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”342916″][quote comment=”342890″][quote comment=”342856″]And, has anyone heard how PETA’s gonna approach it? They’re nuts, make no mistake about it…but, frankly, an owner has to consider that factor very seriously. Do I really want major protests, et al, outside my stadium? Or worse? At best, it’s a PR nightmare.[/quote]

    I hope so. That’s why I mentioned sponsors above. People started pulling ads when Modell announced he was moving the Browns: there’s a chance that could happen with Vick too.

    I’m not a big PETA fan myself, but this case transcends PETA for me.[/quote]

    Agreed. I’m not a PETA fan either, but I am a dog owner and the idea of torturing animals makes me sick. When I look at someone like him and what he did, I think “this guy thought it was okay to torture a defenceless animal”.

    Yes lots of athletes have done bad things, but each of us has their own hot buttons. Puppies and children are mine. If you’ve lost someone in a drunk driving accident, maybe there’s another athlete (Stallworth, McSorly) that makes you feel the same way as I feel about Vick.[/quote]

    Sociopath, borderline(?) psychopath. Period.
    Let’s not kid oursleves, there’s really no other way to describe such behavior. Look up the definitions if you don’t think so. And to serve as an apolgist for his actions is just…suspect; you’d accept it in your friend or your son? You would? Really?

    As was mentioned here previously, serial killers very often start out that way. But because Vick can play football we should overlook it? Pat him on the head and say, “Well, as long as you said you’re sorry”?

    Don’t know someone that “unlearns” that behavior by spending a couple years in prison, either. How believable would a statement like this be? “I used to be a rapist, but I’m better now.” Would you want to work with the guy who said it? Let your sister or daughter date him?

    —Ricko

  • the rAKe | July 29, 2009 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”342914″][quote comment=”342912″](Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air).[/quote]
    Vince Evans played for the Bears.

    Bobby Douglas played for the Bears.[/quote]

    Back in ’82, Uncle Rico could throw a football a quarter mile. I live my life according to Napoleon Dynamite.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2009 at 8:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”342918″][quote comment=”342915″]…and Bob Avellini.
    Jack Concannon, too.
    Steve Walsh.
    Some guy named MacMahon had a decent year, though.
    [/quote]
    Well, yeah: but my guys are the strong-arm duo to compare to Bukich.

    They didn’t make it to Canton any more than Concannon, Walsh, et al.[/quote]

    Oops, my bad, missed your point about big-gamed Bears QBs. At least Bukich actually led the league one year, a peculiar accomplishment for a Bears QB.

    —Ricko

  • Mike Engle | July 29, 2009 at 8:42 pm |

    Looks like Freddy Sanchez will be #28 in a San Francisco scorecard near you. Third paragraph:
    http://sportsillustr...

  • aflfan | July 29, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”342854″]”Not really Vick related, but just a social commentary in general. If one substituted “the government” for “NFL” in some cases of league doings, people would be up in arms.”

    The government does ban felons from doing all kinds of things. I’m guessing Vick can’t vote, own a gun, travel at will, and would have (at least) a really hard time getting a government job. No one seems to mind.

    I’m ambivalent. If the league wants to suspend him 6 weeks I’m OK with that. If the league had decided not to suspend him at all I’d have been OK with that too. In the end the market will decide.

    As a hater I will say I would love to see him go to Oakland. KABOOOOM!!!![/quote]

    He can’t travel to Canada so if there were a Canadian team in the NFL he couldn’t go there.

  • Taxman | July 29, 2009 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”342743″][quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    The article mentions that Chiefs fans have an interest in an uniform overhaul…….that would be tragic.

    The Red, Gold and White colour scheme is a classic late 60’s early 70’s uniform trend.

    In my mind at least , at the time, it was a break out colour scheme – from the more traditional colour combinations. Three teams had it Atlanta Flames, Atlanta Hawks and the Kansas City Chiefs As a kid, growing up in Canada, the Atlanta Flames jersey was one of my favorites. (Houston Rockets also had periodically this colour scheme)

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    You’re right. Add it to royal blue and athletic gold as great color schemes sadly abandoned by virtually every team which once wore them.[/quote]

    Royal blue and athletic gold….sad. Rams, Warriors, Mariners, Brewers and Sabres come immediately to mind. All have either abandoned the blue and athletic gold or drifted into Navy and/or Old Gold. Can we hope to see a reverse of this trend??

  • Oakville Endive | July 29, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”342925″][quote comment=”342743″][quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    You’re right. Add it to royal blue and athletic gold as great color schemes sadly abandoned by virtually every team which once wore them.[/quote]

    Royal blue and athletic gold….sad. Rams, Warriors, Mariners, Brewers and Sabres come immediately to mind. All have either abandoned the blue and athletic gold or drifted into Navy and/or Old Gold. Can we hope to see a reverse of this trend??[/quote]

    to a certain extent you can add the St Louis Blues to this list – with dark blue probably at least as prominent as athletic yellow on their current uni.

    One minor point to add to Kansas City Chiefs – it’s to a certain extent more surprising they have not gone the route of adding black – considering they did have the opening of having the black outlining on their helmet

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    [quote]He can’t travel to Canada so if there were a Canadian team in the NFL he couldn’t go there[/quote]

    you say that like it’s a bad thing

  • aflfan | July 29, 2009 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”342927″][quote]He can’t travel to Canada so if there were a Canadian team in the NFL he couldn’t go there[/quote]

    you say that like it’s a bad thing[/quote]

    I LOVE Canada, two of my four grandparents were Canadian. I was just pointed out if Buffalo were to move to Toronto that would eliminate him playing for an AFC East team.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 10:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”342928″][quote comment=”342927″][quote]He can’t travel to Canada so if there were a Canadian team in the NFL he couldn’t go there[/quote]

    you say that like it’s a bad thing[/quote]

    I LOVE Canada, two of my four grandparents were Canadian. I was just pointed out if Buffalo were to move to Toronto that would eliminate him playing for an AFC East team.[/quote]

    i agree…i dated a canadian for a year…i was meaning that it’s probably not a bad thing for canada

  • aflfan | July 29, 2009 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”342929″][quote comment=”342928″][quote comment=”342927″][quote]He can’t travel to Canada so if there were a Canadian team in the NFL he couldn’t go there[/quote]

    you say that like it’s a bad thing[/quote]

    I LOVE Canada, two of my four grandparents were Canadian. I was just pointed out if Buffalo were to move to Toronto that would eliminate him playing for an AFC East team.[/quote]

    i agree…i dated a canadian for a year…i was meaning that it’s probably not a bad thing for canada[/quote]

    Oh, then I am totally with you on that point.

  • aflfan | July 29, 2009 at 11:04 pm |

    Gallery of the top 10 goalie maskes (according to SI)

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  • aflfan | July 29, 2009 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”342931″]Gallery of the top 10 goalie maskes (according to SI)

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    1967-82

  • Teebz | July 29, 2009 at 11:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”342886″][quote comment=”342884″][quote comment=”342877″][quote comment=”342874″]I’ll say it Thursday as well. What to wear, what to wear…[/quote]

    i asked the same question in january…heh ;)[/quote]

    Would you like to save me a search though the archives and tell us what you ended up with?[/quote]

    here … NY party wrap[/quote]

    Strangely enough, Phil, as you committed to the Coyote, I picked up that very style of jersey the other day from a collector here in the city who is “liquidating” his collection to only “monetary collectibles”. It is completely AWESOME, and it has the one man who was synonymous with the Winnipeg Jets’ blueline on it in Teppo Numminen #27.

    Love it!

  • Taxman | July 29, 2009 at 11:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”342926″][quote comment=”342925″][quote comment=”342743″][quote comment=”342735″][quote comment=”342732″]cool article alert: http://www.nologonee...

    Since then, with black becoming ubiquitous in sports uniforms , all of these uniforms have gone by the way side – with the exception of the Kansas City Chiefs – a simple, stylish uniform in my books. I would be disheartened to see it get updated.[/quote]

    You’re right. Add it to royal blue and athletic gold as great color schemes sadly abandoned by virtually every team which once wore them.[/quote]

    Royal blue and athletic gold….sad. Rams, Warriors, Mariners, Brewers and Sabres come immediately to mind. All have either abandoned the blue and athletic gold or drifted into Navy and/or Old Gold. Can we hope to see a reverse of this trend??[/quote]

    to a certain extent you can add the St Louis Blues to this list – with dark blue probably at least as prominent as athletic yellow on their current uni.

    One minor point to add to Kansas City Chiefs – it’s to a certain extent more surprising they have not gone the route of adding black – considering they did have the opening of having the black outlining on their helmet[/quote]

    Ironically, in this uni era of black-fsob and all the tweaked (current)Buffalo Bills-style bastardized blues and other colors only an interior decorator could love – crisp, clean primary colored unis really pop off your TV and computer screens and SI pages. Prime example is the Bills’ AFL throwbacks.

  • aflfan | July 29, 2009 at 11:09 pm |

    This was always my favorite

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    Speaking of the Flames

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  • Teebz | July 29, 2009 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”342913″][quote comment=”342912″]Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air.[/quote]

    shit…reminds me of someone else who could do that[/quote]

    Reminds me of Uncle Rico (not to be confused with Ricko)…

    “How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?… Yeah… Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would’ve been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.”

  • JimV19 | July 29, 2009 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”342915″][quote comment=”342914″][quote comment=”342912″](Seriously, the guy had an hellacious arm; story goes he could throw a footbal 100 yards in the air).[/quote]
    Vince Evans played for the Bears.

    Bobby Douglas played for the Bears.[/quote]

    …and Bob Avellini.
    Jack Concannon, too.
    Steve Walsh.
    Some guy named MacMahon had a decent year, though.

    Actually, we’re proving the point, aren’t we: No “franchise QB” since Luckman…who played before anyone knew what a “franchise QB” was.[/quote]

    How appropriate for a discussion of Bears QBs, my anti-spam word is “pick”…

    Jack Concannon – his claim to fame was being mentioned in The Bob Newhart Show when Bob and Jerry were talking football at the office. That was the episode where Emily got mad at Bob for this new thing called Monday Night Football that was keeping him from spending more time with her. Great show.

    My mom thought Bobby Douglass was cute. He could run – he had the single-season QB rushing record until some Falcon out of VA Tech broke it.

    Vince Evans did double duty in Chicago, playing for the Blitz as well (as did Virgil Livers, but at least Vince got to keep all his onions).

  • Teebz | July 29, 2009 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”342917″]And by McSorley I meant McTavish. Ugh.[/quote]

    Marty McSorley was guilty of the stick swinging incident on Donald Brashear.

    Craig McTavish was the last player to go helmetless in the NHL.

    How does McTee’s lack of a helmet make you sick?

    And for those of you who think that McSorley was in the wrong, have I got an argument for you.

  • JTH | July 29, 2009 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”342728″]Thanks for fixing the Dick Allen link!

    Stirrups, Michael Jackson tribute, this video has it all!

    http://www.youtube.c...
    He’s wearing some of them knit-in one-piece jobs isn’t he?

  • JTH | July 29, 2009 at 11:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”342938″][quote comment=”342917″]And by McSorley I meant McTavish. Ugh.[/quote]

    Marty McSorley was guilty of the stick swinging incident on Donald Brashear.

    Craig McTavish was the last player to go helmetless in the NHL.

    How does McTee’s lack of a helmet make you sick?

    And for those of you who think that McSorley was in the wrong, have I got an argument for you.[/quote]
    I believe Mike was referring to this.

  • Teebz | July 29, 2009 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”342940″][quote comment=”342938″][quote comment=”342917″]And by McSorley I meant McTavish. Ugh.[/quote]

    Marty McSorley was guilty of the stick swinging incident on Donald Brashear.

    Craig McTavish was the last player to go helmetless in the NHL.

    How does McTee’s lack of a helmet make you sick?

    And for those of you who think that McSorley was in the wrong, have I got an argument for you.[/quote]
    I believe Mike was referring to this.[/quote]

    If that’s all he’s referring to, I have several other examples of problems like that.

    The most recent would be Mark Bell, former Shark, Blackhawk, and Maple Leaf, who was sentenced for six months in prison after pleading guilty to DUI and hit-and-run causing bodily harm?

    How about Mike Danton who tried to place a hit on his former agent?

    How about coach Graham James who was found guilty of sexually abusing his players?

    I’m in no way saying that Vick is an angel, and he deserves to be judged by the public for being an entertainer in the public realm. I would hope that we, as the paying public, would say that his short prison sentence is not enough punishment, and demand that he be kept out of football for much longer than the NFL is willing to do.

    But if you’re looking for blemishes in sports, we put these people on pedestals every day. So, really, who is worse – us or them?

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2009 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote]I’m in no way saying that Vick is an angel[/quote]

    oh, that’s good

  • Teebz | July 29, 2009 at 11:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”342942″][quote]I’m in no way saying that Vick is an angel[/quote]

    oh, that’s good[/quote]

    Unless he decides to switch sports and sign in Anaheim/Los Angeles/somewhere in SoCal. ;o)

  • JTH | July 30, 2009 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”342941″][quote comment=”342940″][quote comment=”342938″][quote comment=”342917″]And by McSorley I meant McTavish. Ugh.[/quote]

    Marty McSorley was guilty of the stick swinging incident on Donald Brashear.

    Craig McTavish was the last player to go helmetless in the NHL.

    How does McTee’s lack of a helmet make you sick?

    And for those of you who think that McSorley was in the wrong, have I got an argument for you.[/quote]
    I believe Mike was referring to this.[/quote]

    If that’s all he’s referring to, I have several other examples of problems like that.

    The most recent would be Mark Bell, former Shark, Blackhawk, and Maple Leaf, who was sentenced for six months in prison after pleading guilty to DUI and hit-and-run causing bodily harm?

    How about Mike Danton who tried to place a hit on his former agent?

    How about coach Graham James who was found guilty of sexually abusing his players?

    I’m in no way saying that Vick is an angel, and he deserves to be judged by the public for being an entertainer in the public realm. I would hope that we, as the paying public, would say that his short prison sentence is not enough punishment, and demand that he be kept out of football for much longer than the NFL is willing to do.

    But if you’re looking for blemishes in sports, we put these people on pedestals every day. So, really, who is worse – us or them?[/quote]
    Maybe you ought to re-read the original comment. It seems to me like you two are basically in agreement.

    Maybe not.

  • =bg= | July 30, 2009 at 12:36 am |

    [quote comment=”342761″][quote comment=”342751″]Hypothetically speaking, if Jim Rice were to return to the Red Sox as their hitting coach and wear his number 14, (on a daily basis,) would it be prudent for the Red Sox to remove his number signage from above Right Field, as his number would no longer be retired?[/quote]

    The number would still be retired if the honoree himself wore it — it is “retired” in the sense that it cannot be issued to anyone else.

    Both Billy Martin and Yogi Berra managed the Yankees after their numbers were retired; and Yogi, Elston Howard, Don Mattingly, and Ron Guidry served as coaches after their numbers were retired.[/quote]

    Exactly right. Rice can wear it, just no one else!

  • Philly Bill | July 30, 2009 at 6:33 am |

    The only pertinent thing about Cliff Lee: he will wear #34 with the Phillies — #31 is currently worn by the re-animated corpse of Rodrigo Lopez.

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    The last to wear the number for the Phillies was the execrable Freddy Garcia, who collected approximately $11M for one win and a 6-run ERA. Before that: Gavin Floyd, whom the Phils sent off in exchange for Garcia.

  • chance michaels | July 30, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”342883″][quote comment=”342767″][quote comment=”342764″][quote comment=”342747″]

    Shouldn’t there be a Falcons logo?[/quote]

    It does appear to be a Ravens logo at first glance. But, I think you’re right that the intent was the NFL shield.[/quote]Any possibility that the cartoonist went back to Favre’s Southern Mississippi days?[/quote]

    Does anyone have a photograb of Brett Favre’s freshman/sophomore USM uni with the Old Gold jerseys?

    AWESOME look. Watched him come off of the bench in his freshman year against Tulane and KILL them. A star was born, and he went on to stardom.[/quote]
    Well…

    Considering he was a second-round pick whose name was mispronounced by the Commish on the podium, chosen by a team whose coach didn’t want him and who let him go after a single season in which he went threw four passes with the only completion being to a guy on the wrong team who brought it back for six points, I don’t think that’s exactly the moment when a star was born.

  • Chris | July 30, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”342721″]Does or has anyone ever seen the goal mask in the background before?
    http://www.gettyimag...

    What is that wristband site?[/quote]

    I am not sure where he got his, but the store I work for sells them. They are pretty cool.

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