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Dragons and Tigers and Bears…Oh My

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By Phil Hecken with Jeremy Brahm

I’m joined again by Jeremy Brahm, the UW Pacific Rim Correspondent, and expert on all things Asian, particularly baseball. We previously (and by we, I mean Jeremy) discussed the current KBO teams and their sartorial stylings (if you missed it, you can check it out here). But wait, there’s more. In fact, a lot more. I’ll let Jeremy explain:

After helping Bill Jones with a gumball helmet project on Japan, he asked me if I had any information on the Korean Baseball Organization (KBO), and I replied, “I do not really know that much about it.” But, after doing some research over a weekend, I have found that Korean professional baseball has only been around since 1982 and that there are only eight teams, with a few changes in names and sponsorships, which of course have led to different uniform combinations. This is the second of a two-part series on the KBO and I will continue with the defunct teams.

In the first season there were six teams, and only the Samsung Lions and Lotte Giants exist under the same name. The other four teams were the Haitai Tigers, MBC Blue Dragons, OB Bears and Sammi Superstars. This is where we will start our journey.

Haitai Tigers: Based in Gwangju on the Southwestern corner of the Korean peninsula. Haitai is a dessert and snack manufacturer and owned the Tigers until July 2001 before KIA Motors sponsored the team and becoming the KIA Tigers. Haitai won nine titles during that their ownership.

Here is what their original home uniforms looked like with Haitai in Hangeul on their chest in black with orange outlines. Notice how the Hangeul looks kind of like a possible Canadian phrase, OH EH. Their hats were black with a white outline around an outward serif black H with a yellow/orange T under the crossbar on the H.

And then their road uniform was very different from a color standpoint: Red tops with black lettering with white outlines and black pants with white and red hemlines. To me this has to be one of the worst top/bottom combinations for baseball. The picture in the upper right corner is what the KIA Tigers look like now.

In 1993, the Tigers went to a very conventional logo for their home uniform, a script Tigers with a thick red stripes yoke and a black collarbone stripe. The hat and helmets added a red brim to the black and changed to a cursive capital H. While their road uniform remained the same, with Haitai written in block lettering in Romanization with white outlines, but Tigers is in Hangeul in white lettering. It looks a bit better than the old road uniform, but not much.

Next is the MBC Blue Dragons (Chungyong) and they were based in the capital of Seoul. MBC is the acronym for Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation which is one of the leading media conglomerates in South Korea. MBC owned the Blue Dragons from 1982-1989 before LG bought the sponsorship rights in 1990 and becoming the LG Twins.

The Blue Dragons had a wide range of uniforms in their time in the KBO. Here is what they looked like when the team was accepted to the league. The pictograph on the uniforms says “Blue Dragons”. But the team never wore these uniforms on the field. This was their first home uniform in 1982.

It was white with Chungyong (Dragons) Romanized in blue and blue raglan sleeve with SEOUL in white on the right sleeve and an interlocking M (Munhwa) and S (Seoul) cap.

Their road uniform was a blue base with SEOUL in yellow with MBC letters in red (M), green (B) and dark blue (C).

This a replication of the 1983 home uniform, from a throwback day, it still had the blue raglan sleeves, but a new chest design. The team added Dragons in Hangeul in a large font to the chest.

There road uniform was blue with white raglan sleeves and SEOUL and Dragons in Hangeul in a large font across the chest and SEOUL on the right sleeve.

In 1985, the home uniform had changed to a white base with two broad stripes in blue and yellow crossing the chest. Dragons were in Hangeul in white lettering with blue outlines. Also added was a blue number over the stripes on the left chest. The huge Dragons chest script was smaller but centered on the stripes.

In 1986, the home uniform chest Dragons text was shrunk and placed on the left side of the stripes. Also the team had a dragon patch on the left sleeve. It may have used in other seasons as well, but I cannot get a close shot and also the old KBO logo is similar in shape. Also the hat and helmet for both the home and road changed from the MS to a side locking MC (Manhwa Chungyong).

The road uniform had a blue base with white and yellow stripes across the chest. It also appears that the team matched the fonts with the MC for the numbers.

Next is the OB Bears, who were based in Daejeon before moving to Seoul in 1986. OB is short for Oriental Brewery and OB owned the Bears until 1999, when their sponsorship rights were acquired by the Doosan conglomerate and becoming the Doosan Bears.

The Bears did not really change their look in the league. I think that they look like the Expos with their three colored hats. White front panels with blue OB, red panel, then the rest of it dark blue.

In 1982 the Bears won the first league title in these uniforms. White base with OB in blue with blue numbers and white pants with blue and red stripes. Their road uniforms were dark blue with OB in white and white pants.

Here is a picture of the Bears in Hangeul in training. The only other difference of the uniform that I could find was where OB Bears was spelled out on the home and road uniforms. What is a little odd is that the B in OB and B in Bears were of a different size.

There is also a picture of a player with a red panel at the front with a white outline around the blue OB on the hat with smaller white panels, but I do not know the date of this picture.

Next is the Sammi Superstars who were based in Incheon near Seoul. Sammi was a steel company and kept the team until 1985. The Superstars borrowed from the Astros, Cardinals and Expos during this short timeframe.

Here is the home uniform in 1982, a white base with a blue star with a white S over the heart and SUPERSSTARS spelled out in block letters with a star inside the A. Also had blue, red and black sleeve stripes with a blue hat with a red brim and a white star with a red S. They are all over the place with this uniform.

Here is a small picture of the 1982 road uniform. Blue base with the team logo patch on the left sleeve, red, yellow and green sleeve stripes.

The 1983 home uniform was changed but retained the hat.

I have also seen a picture with a different design and I can’t figure if this was also used in 1983, but it was used in 1984. Added red and black yoke stripes and changed the script for Superstars to Hangeul. Also they dropped the three color stripes and had them matched to the yoke. Plus they made the star on the shirt a black star with a red S under the script.

Here is the batting helmet, but what is up with their back panel? Who has the time to paint a back panel like that? Otherwise their helmet which looks like the Kintetsu Buffaloes in Japan of that same time.

1984 road uniform was similar to the Cardinals road uniforms from the 1980s, light blue base with red, white and black sleeve stripes and pant stripes.

Now we’ll move onto the teams that came into being later in the 1980s, Binggrae Eagles, Chungbo Pintos and the Pacific Dolphins.

The Binggrae Eagles came into the league as an expansion team in 1986. They had probably one of the loudest uniforms, let alone road uniform, in the history of mankind. Orange shirt and pants with white pinstripes and black and white pant and collar bone stripes also with white lettering with black outlines. The back had black lettering and numbers.

The home uniform was tame by comparison with a white base and orange pinstripes, orange and black shoulder stripes, and orange lettering with black outlines and black numbers.

The home and road hat and helmets were black with an orange logo. Plus they had a diamond patch on the right sleeve.

Hanwha bought the sponsorship rights in 1994 and became the Hanwha Eagles.

Chungbo Pintos were an instant ramen maker that purchased the sponsorship from Sammi in the 1984 offseason and renamed for the 1985 season. In 1985 home uniform was white with red raglan sleeves and white and red sleeve stripes. Chungbo was in Hangeul with green lettering and Pintos was in white lettering on the right sleeve. The red cap had a white interlocking C (Chungbo) and P (Pintos).

In 1986, the Pintos became the first team in baseball history to have vertical stripes, not pinstripes, WIDE RED STRIPES, on their white home uniforms. Here are the road uniforms, which were red based with white pants. The team also had blue lettering and numbers on the stripes, which were almost unreadable together.

Their 1987 home uniform was pretty much the same. But the road uniform moved the blue text below the stripes and added a white outline to make it more readable.

The Pintos were so bad that Chungbo did not renew their sponsorship and it was taken over by Taepyeongyang (Pacific) Corporation and renamed the Pacific Dolphins in 1988.

The Pacific Dolphins started their uniform life with a 1980s White Sox horizontal design for their home and road uniforms.

The home uniform had a white base with a black wide stripe and green small stripes with white Hangeul lettering. While the road uniform was a black base with a white wide stripe and green small stripes with red Hangeul lettering. The cap was a black cap with a green brim and a Dolphin with fin rotating.

After realizing that these uniforms were ugly, the Dolphins went with a more conventional look in 1989. Their home uniform had an all white base with green lettering and green and yellow pant stripes. Pacific was changed from Hangeul to pictograph on the front of the uniform. Their road uniforms looked like the Oakland A’s with a green base and white pants with green and yellow pant stripes. The cap for home and road became green with a yellow D/fin.

In 1993, the team changed the lettering back to Hangeul on their home and road uniforms.

In 1994, the Dolphins changed their color scheme to red and blue. Here is what their home uniform looked like. The road uniform looked similar but had a grey base. This was their final uniform set.

Lastly were the two teams that came into the KBO in the 1990s that do not exist anymore, Hyundai Unicorns and Ssangbangul (SBW) Raiders.

The Hyundai Unicorns were created after Hyundai bought sponsorship of the Dolphins after the 1995 season.

Their first home uniforms were pretty bland, white base with black block text. The road uniform was similar with a black base and green lettering with yellow highlights.

Later in the year the home uniform added the Unicorns script in yellow. Also the road uniform was changed as well. Here was the cap for the Unicorns and interlocking H (Hyun) and D (dai)

Here is a picture of the Hyundai conglomerate 50th Anniversary patch, worn in 1997. For other patches and up close pictures of their uniforms look here.

The Ssangbanguwool Raiders came into the KBO as an expansion team in 1990, but as Ssangbanguwool went bankrupt in 1999 the team dissolved after the season.

When they joined the league this was their home uniform. Yellow lightning bolt across the chest under RAIDERS in yellow also, both outlined in black. I can’t find their road uniform from 1990, I would guess that it was either a grey or black base uniform. Their last home uniform was a white base with black lettering and a yellow outline. The Raiders script was replaced with Ssangbanguwool in Hangeul.

Their last road uniform was a grey base with black base and yellow outline.

And that concludes Jeremy’s look at the defunct KBO uniforms. Thanks Jeremy.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: You guys are too good, so undoubtedly, you will not be stumped. This one might be easy, but then, it may be slightly more difficult. Clues are on the scoreboard, of course, but there are clues on the field of play as well. Don’t forget, if you solve it (when you solve it), post the link to the answer and maybe talk us through how you came to your answer. Some of these require different techniques than others. So, here we go: Guess The Game

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benchies header Ok, we have four Benchies today, then we’ll have three more tomorrow — that’s like a week’s worth. They’re all new, and based on some of the comments recently, a couple are very topical. Enjoy!

Day 1Day 2Day 3Day 4

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stirrupsStirrup Club News: UW DIY OCDer Robert Marshall checks in with this (pardon his spelling, grammar and lack of punctuation):

the red sox stirrups came in early, and are all ready to go. unfortunately, i won’t have the hour to spend in the post office as they weigh and print out the postage for the nearly 70 envelopes one at a time until monday, but we can get started on the next one today. i have faith in your brain-pan’s capacity, so this month we are going to try two stirrups with a missouri theme. if we handle this okay, we will continue to do two at a time. even if you have ordered before, read the directions carefully, there were more then a few people who ordered the first ‘rup who failed to do things properly on the second ‘rup. athletics and/or cardinals anyone?

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And finally, I’m “lucky” enough to get the MLB “extra innings” free preview (thanks to Johnny O for the tip). You should all check to see if you have it because it’s serendipity times two. I could turn off the Mets while they were losing 10-0 to the Bravos, and didn’t have to watch the Yanks. There was some very good stuff on, especially seeing Nyjer Morgan in red stirrups and catching Vin Scully on the PTDodgers feed. But, flipping through the channels, though, I stumbled upon the Red Sox at the Blue Jays. Now, the Blue Jays apparently still do their “Flashback Fridays” because they were dressed in their powder blues. But they’re the home team. And they either don’t let the visiting team wear white or the visiting team has no reason (other than to appease the Blue Jays’ ‘throwback home/away’ uni jones) to pack home unis for a road trip. But — I’m guessing most teams also don’t want to wear their all gray uniforms against all powder blue uniforms the Jays sport, so they’ll wear their gray pants with an alt jersey. Well — here’s what last night’s game looked like. Awful. I know the powder blues are the “home” uni, but having grown up in an era when that was ALWAYS the away uni, it looks horrid when the opposing team is ALSO wearing their away uni. Something’s gotta give.

Anyway, I’m going to nominate that for the “worst uni matchup of the season”. There may have been worse, but I can’t think of any. But I bet you guys can. What do you think has been the “worst uni matchup” (category: MLB) of the season thus far? I’d love to know what you think.

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Whew…another short weekend post. I’ll end it here. Everyone enjoy your Saturday!

 

117 comments to Dragons and Tigers and Bears…Oh My

  • Nick | July 18, 2009 at 8:12 am |

    I totally dig those original Haitai Tigers uniforms

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 8:23 am |

    Not to toot my own horn, but last evening I posted some odds and ends I found while foraging in my files, starting with a full length look at the Giants ’65 unis at post #175. Some of them might be interesting to some of you, and I mention it now only because there isn’t a ton of traffic ’round here on Friday nights.

    (P.S….Such a thing may never happen for your younger folks because there are so many sources for news these days, but watching the remembrances of Walter Cronkite is like watching a playback of the history of my generation. Makes for a wistful morning.)

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.

    Ricko,

    I echo you great words on Uncle Walter.

  • Jeremy Brahm | July 18, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    The old Haitai Tigers logo is not loading, I found it here.
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Cooper's Dad | July 18, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Yeah, that Sunday hat always has come off as a affectation, hasn’t it. Just doesn’t seem necessary.

    And I’m one who really likes the navy road hat because some pretty legendary Cardinals wore it (Musial, Gibson, Boyer, Brock, et al), including the ’64 W-S team.

    Linked to this before, but it’s such a good look at those unis.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko

  • Joe Barrie | July 18, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    The scoreboard shows Don Larsen throwing the opening pitch of his perfect game against the Dodgers in 1956.

    The opposing pitcher is Sal Maglie (35).

  • Jeremy Brahm | July 18, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    Someone changed their shorts on the field and had a tag out in Japan.

    http://www.fuckedgai...

    But it got him in some hot water with management.

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Detroit has never wore one during the Regular season (that I know of).

  • brett | July 18, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Take Philadelphia off that list…they wore the all burgandy uniform for 1-2 games in 1979.

    1979 Phils alt.

    I would also count the “throw” back alts as an alt. :)

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”340854″][quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Take Philadelphia off that list…they wore the all burgandy uniform for 1-2 games in 1979.

    1979 Phils alt.

    I would also count the “throw” back alts as an alt. :)[/quote]

    Pete’s wearing those original (in the states, anyway) Mizunos, too.

  • Johnny O | July 18, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    More of Big Bad John Daly:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...
    (I love his colored grips)

    Great pic of Daly’s bag:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Here is Daly’s g/f, who has been matching Daly’s pants with a skirt all week:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • timmy b | July 18, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    I am 99.8% certain the Dodgers wore a Dodger blue top in a game, I’m thinking in the late 1990’s – early 2000’s.

  • ART | July 18, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    Take the Dodgers off the list as well. They wore alternate blue jerseys a few years ago. I also believe that the Cardinals wore an alternate top for one game during the McGuire era.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”340856″]More of Big Bad John Daly:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...
    (I love his colored grips)

    Great pic of Daly’s bag:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Here is Daly’s g/f, who has been matching Daly’s pants with a skirt all week:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Thank you for not saying she’s been in his pants all week.

  • leon | July 18, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    Ted Baxter to Walter Cronkite:
    “What words do you have trouble pronouncing?”

    In this day and age, the humor of that would be lost.

  • Shaggy | July 18, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    As predicted…it’s official for Marquette!

    http://solecollector...

  • Mike Engle | July 18, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”340854″][quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Take Philadelphia off that list…they wore the all burgandy uniform for 1-2 games in 1979.

    1979 Phils alt.

    I would also count the “throw” back alts as an alt. :)[/quote]
    I don’t recall the Montreal Expos ever “officially” having an alternate top. They may have worn a BP top in a double-header for lack of clean laundry, but they have almost always been white or powder blue or gray.

  • JMurphy | July 18, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    like the blue jays have their “flashback fridays,” the red sox always wear alternates on friday. when they are on the road on a friday they wear their hideous batting practice blue alternates with the hanging sox cap and when they are at home on a friday they wear their heinous red batting practice alternates with the hanging sox cap.

    earlier in the year they wore navy socks with their navy blue alternates but people complained about how the team is the RED sox (including a commercial in which jonathan papelbon says “we’re the red sox but when we’re on the road they got us wearing navy sox, it doesn’t make any sense”) so they have since switched to wearing red socks with the navy alternates

  • Diggerjohn | July 18, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    I have never said “oh eh” in my life….A Canadian….LOL…Actually AWESOME job on the Asian leagues coverage, one of my favourite features!

  • Hibbs | July 18, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”340850″][quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Yeah, that Sunday hat always has come off as a affectation, hasn’t it. Just doesn’t seem necessary.

    And I’m one who really likes the navy road hat because some pretty legendary Cardinals wore it (Musial, Gibson, Boyer, Brock, et al), including the ’64 W-S team.

    Linked to this before, but it’s such a good look at those unis.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I still wish they wore the Musial era cap with the red bill and no white trim. Home and away.

  • Kicksave23 | July 18, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    Scoreboard: Trickiest part for me was ignoring that the pitcher’s number on the scoreboard looked like a 16 to me. Once I actually looked at the picture, I knew that couldn’t be it since The Chairman was a southpaw. Then it became easy to me.

  • Hibbs | July 18, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    I got the Guess the Scoreboard.
    It’s baseball. The game is baseball.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    I know the purists among us disagree, but I like this look http://farm4.static.... from the Blue Dragons.

    I wouldn’t recommend it for every team, but with those colors it works.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    Oh, Santa Maria! This is my new guilty uniform secret pleasure: http://cfs3.tistory....
    This beats the crap outta that minor-league tuxedo uni we saw this week. Somebody (not everybody, but SOMEBODY) in the states needs to use this design.

  • Matt | July 18, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    The Dodgers DEFINITELY wore a blue top. I believe it was trimmed in silver.
    Also, the Cards wore a red top I think at one point too.
    Didn’t Detroit have a blue alt at one point too?
    The Yanks might be the only team left who haven’t.

  • Squiddie | July 18, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    So what did Ron Fairly get for giving up his jersey number?

    (OK, trick question. Nothing because this was taken before his first game.)

  • Bob A | July 18, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    Great great scoreboard picture today. Takes me back to my youth going to to old Yankee Stadium with my Dad. Thanks

  • Kevin W | July 18, 2009 at 2:30 pm |

    I don’t know if it has been mentioned yet, but Paul is quoted in a uni-realted atricle in today’s San Diego Union Tribune

    http://www3.signonsa...

  • Patrick in MI | July 18, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”340872″]So what did Ron Fairly get for giving up his jersey number?

    (OK, trick question. Nothing because this was taken before his first game.)[/quote]

    WTF? Is that Rocky Dennis standing on third base?!

  • Patrick in MI | July 18, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    Erp sorry…not the one on third base. You know of whom I speak though.

  • mmwatkin | July 18, 2009 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”340871″]The Dodgers DEFINITELY wore a blue top. I believe it was trimmed in silver.
    Also, the Cards wore a red top I think at one point too.
    Didn’t Detroit have a blue alt at one point too?
    The Yanks might be the only team left who haven’t.[/quote]

    The Tigers wore an alternate jersey (looked pretty much like a BP jersey) for one game in 1994 (or somewhere around there).

    There was a YouTube video titled “nothing from 1994” that was highlights of the game against the Red Sox.

    I think it was this game:
    http://www.baseball-...

  • James Craven | July 18, 2009 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”340851″]“The scoreboard shows Don Larsen throwing the opening pitch of his perfect game against the Dodgers in 1956.

    “The opposing pitcher is Sal Maglie (35).”[/quote]

    The Yankees sold that scoreboard to the Phillies after that season to be put into Connie Mack Stadium.

  • BurghFan | July 18, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    From Thursday, about game 7 of the ’60 Series:

    I believe Prince did the local call for KDKA. If he didn’t he went to a lot of trouble making a recreation, because I bought a recording of the entire game 7 on tape years ago for my dad.

    There was no local call. The teams’ announcers were part of the national broadcast. In fact, Bob Prince would talk about how he missed Maz’ home run because he was on his way to the clubhouse to do interviews in case the Pirates won, so when he got to Mazeroski, he just asked “How does it feel to be a champion?”

    KDKA might have put a recreation together at the time. I remember that Prince and somebody else (maybe Jim Woods) did a recreation during the ’81 strike, and it was replayed during the ’94 strike.

  • BurghFan | July 18, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    The Dodgers had a Think Blue series or two where they wore blue jerseys at home. There was also the July 20, 1999 game at Pittsburgh where they wore their BP jerseys.

  • timmy b | July 18, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”340879″]From Thursday, about game 7 of the ’60 Series:

    I believe Prince did the local call for KDKA. If he didn’t he went to a lot of trouble making a recreation, because I bought a recording of the entire game 7 on tape years ago for my dad.

    There was no local call. The teams’ announcers were part of the national broadcast. In fact, Bob Prince would talk about how he missed Maz’ home run because he was on his way to the clubhouse to do interviews in case the Pirates won, so when he got to Mazeroski, he just asked “How does it feel to be a champion?”

    KDKA might have put a recreation together at the time. I remember that Prince and somebody else (maybe Jim Woods) did a recreation during the ’81 strike, and it was replayed during the ’94 strike.[/quote]

    It was Jim Woods as the Gunner’s partner in the recreation.

    For game 7 on NBC TV, Prince called the first 4 1/2 innings by himself. Midway thru the fifth, likely after the Gillette commercial, Prince handed the call off to Mel Allen, who did the call solo. Both stayed in the booth.

    As the story goes, around the 9th inning, Prince left the booth and was on his way to the Yankee clubhouse thinking the Yanke were going to win. Then the roar went up in Forbes Field. Prince asked the first person he spotted, what happened? He was told the Pirates won in the 9th inning! He did not know the details. He then hurried over to the Pirates clubhouse, only knowing that the Bucs had won and nothing else. Only after the game when he had a chance to breathe and talked to his wife did the Gunner find out it was Mazeroski’s homer that won the Series for the Pirates.

    He always joked that he was the last person in Pittsburgh to know how the Pirates won the 1960 World Series.

    The radio call done NBC, was by Chuck Thompson then doing the Washington Senators games and Jack Quinlan, I think the Cubs radio man. I think they followed the same format as TV. Quinlan working the first half of game 7, with Thompson calling the game from the bottom of the 5th on.

  • timmy b | July 18, 2009 at 5:05 pm |

    The Green Riders are in WHITE at Regina against the red jerseyed Allouettes today. I know it’s 60’s weekend in the CFL this weekend.

    I cannot EVER recall the home team in white in a CFL game.

    Or am I wrong???

  • Teebz | July 18, 2009 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”340882″]The Green Riders are in WHITE at Regina against the red jerseyed Allouettes today. I know it’s 60’s weekend in the CFL this weekend.

    I cannot EVER recall the home team in white in a CFL game.

    Or am I wrong???[/quote]

    Home teams wear dark in the CFL normally.

  • Chris Mayberry | July 18, 2009 at 6:24 pm |

    CFL teams all wore white at home in the early 60s…

  • ATLShaun | July 18, 2009 at 6:52 pm |

    i nominate the Braves Mets game from May 13th as a worst uni matchup… http://atlanta.brave...
    it could have passed as a spring training game, especially since it was a day game. bad, bad decisions on both ends

  • Oakville Endive | July 18, 2009 at 6:58 pm |

    Most of the retro CFL uniforms look considerably better than the cluttered mish-mash they normally wear

    Big thumbs up overall – and especially for Montreal and BC – but all were well done.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 7:01 pm |

    This is…interesting.
    http://articles.mone...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm |

    I really liked these unis. Miss sock stripes that match sleeve stripes, too. Come to think of it, miss sleeves. LOL
    http://cfl-scrapbook...

    —Ricko

  • odessasteps magazine | July 18, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    Thumbs up to today’s column.

    /said wearing Yomiouri Giants cap

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”340881″][quote comment=”340879″]From Thursday, about game 7 of the ’60 Series:

    I believe Prince did the local call for KDKA. If he didn’t he went to a lot of trouble making a recreation, because I bought a recording of the entire game 7 on tape years ago for my dad.

    There was no local call. The teams’ announcers were part of the national broadcast. In fact, Bob Prince would talk about how he missed Maz’ home run because he was on his way to the clubhouse to do interviews in case the Pirates won, so when he got to Mazeroski, he just asked “How does it feel to be a champion?”

    KDKA might have put a recreation together at the time. I remember that Prince and somebody else (maybe Jim Woods) did a recreation during the ’81 strike, and it was replayed during the ’94 strike.[/quote]

    It was Jim Woods as the Gunner’s partner in the recreation.

    For game 7 on NBC TV, Prince called the first 4 1/2 innings by himself. Midway thru the fifth, likely after the Gillette commercial, Prince handed the call off to Mel Allen, who did the call solo. Both stayed in the booth.

    As the story goes, around the 9th inning, Prince left the booth and was on his way to the Yankee clubhouse thinking the Yanke were going to win. Then the roar went up in Forbes Field. Prince asked the first person he spotted, what happened? He was told the Pirates won in the 9th inning! He did not know the details. He then hurried over to the Pirates clubhouse, only knowing that the Bucs had won and nothing else. Only after the game when he had a chance to breathe and talked to his wife did the Gunner find out it was Mazeroski’s homer that won the Series for the Pirates.

    He always joked that he was the last person in Pittsburgh to know how the Pirates won the 1960 World Series.

    The radio call done NBC, was by Chuck Thompson then doing the Washington Senators games and Jack Quinlan, I think the Cubs radio man. I think they followed the same format as TV. Quinlan working the first half of game 7, with Thompson calling the game from the bottom of the 5th on.[/quote]

    Wow, thanks for the history lesson! It was seven years before my time, so I didn’t get to hear it live. Glad I didn’t pay too much for the recording. It still sounds pretty good, though.

    Odd how Prince and Myron Cope (Immaculate Reception) miss two of the greatest moments in Pittsburgh sports history. At least I know my CDs of the Steelers Super Bowl broadcasts are real…

  • rpm | July 18, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    wtf?

    i understand that your intro was the standard robert writes oddly disclaimer. and making fun of my style is all cool by me, but what spelling errors beeeeyotch?

  • Matt | July 18, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    Not sure if anyone noticed this before…but the blue jays are wearing their powder blue away uniforms…but they where the blue and white hat, that is a home hat. The original uni combo would have been the powder blues with the solid blue hat.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 8:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”340893″]Not sure if anyone noticed this before…but the blue jays are wearing their powder blue away uniforms…but they where the blue and white hat, that is a home hat. The original uni combo would have been the powder blues with the solid blue hat.[/quote]

    Jays came into existence in ’77. Didn’t go to solid blue cap on the road until late ’80s.

    —Ricko

  • timmy b | July 18, 2009 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”340885″]CFL teams all wore white at home in the early 60s…[/quote]

    I did not know that. Thanks for the morsel!

    Any idea what year that changed?

  • James Craven | July 18, 2009 at 8:39 pm |

    BTW, USA women’s softball and the umps wore pink for breast cancer research today on ESPN against Canada.

  • LI Phil | July 18, 2009 at 8:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”340892″]wtf?

    i understand that your intro was the standard robert writes oddly disclaimer. and making fun of my style is all cool by me, but what spelling errors beeeeyotch?[/quote]

    sorry bro

    i told you i din’t post yer schtick until 6:30 am…just figgered ya had yer normal assortment of funny spellings and such

    mah bad…good thing ya didn’t notice i had spelled your last name wrong for most of the day

  • rpm | July 18, 2009 at 9:05 pm |

    i was just kidding my man, i knew you did that for me last second. besides, it was a rair assumption:)

  • rpm | July 18, 2009 at 9:06 pm |

    ha ha ha ha ha…fair assumption

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 9:08 pm |

    The wink, the lashes…http://image.ohmynew... is this ball flirting with me?

    Kinda like the lightning bolt across the chest http://sports.donga.... I’d like to see that on a button-down jersey.

    Thanks, Jeremy and Phil!

  • u2-horn | July 18, 2009 at 9:08 pm |

    Salty finally got some new (red) catching gear that has his correct #21.

    http://farm4.static....

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 9:09 pm |

    http://image.ohmynew...
    Let’s see if that winking ball logo works now.

  • Jeremy Brahm | July 18, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”340902″]http://image.ohmynews.com/down/images/1/punctum_287885_27[562796].jpg
    Let’s see if that winking ball logo works now.[/quote]

    Also go to my flickr account if the picture doesn’t come through.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 9:16 pm |

    “Stirrup Club News: UW DIY OCDer Robert Marshall checks in with this (pardon his spelling, grammar and lack of punctuation)”

    New term for the UW glossary? SGALOP (Spelling, Grammar And Lack Of Punctation)

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko!

  • sgalop | July 18, 2009 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”340904″]”Stirrup Club News: UW DIY OCDer Robert Marshall checks in with this (pardon his spelling, grammar and lack of punctuation)”

    New term for the UW glossary? SGALOP (Spelling, Grammar And Lack Of Punctation)[/quote]

    i should change the legal spelling of my name to sgalop:)
    just remember, when you go to your fishmonger always get sea sgalops, they are much better. ba dum dum. or maybe this makes me the fish monger since i always have fresh SGALOPs? if that’s the case, do i send the stirrups out wrapped in butchers paper?

  • The Hemogoblin | July 18, 2009 at 9:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”340902″]http://image.ohmynews.com/down/images/1/punctum_287885_27[562796].jpg
    Let’s see if that winking ball logo works now.[/quote]

    Success!

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”340887″]Most of the retro CFL uniforms look considerably better than the cluttered mish-mash they normally wear

    Big thumbs up overall – and especially for Montreal and BC – but all were well done.[/quote]

    I love all of them. I’d never seen the white and powder blue Argos until this week. This is still my favorite Argos look http://cfl-scrapbook...
    But this http://static.cdn.mr... may be my second.

  • Paddy F | July 18, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:

  • Paddy F | July 18, 2009 at 9:56 pm |

    My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    Rock’em Sock’em Robots

    http://cdn1.sbnation...

  • The Hemogoblin | July 18, 2009 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”340909″]My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    [/quote]

    That’s what you were trying to say…

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”340910″]My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    Rock’em Sock’em Robots

    http://cdn1.sbnation...

    Looks like the Twins/Rangers as well.

    Can someone photoshop the Nats’ red jersey and make it white? I think I’d like that better than the regular white.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”340905″][quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko![/quote]

    Hey, I missed it, too. Hope it comes back…but have my doubts. I have a dozen or so games from the first season (1987) taped from ESPN. May have to watch one of them one of these days.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”340912″][quote comment=”340910″]My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    Rock’em Sock’em Robots

    http://cdn1.sbnation...

    Looks like the Twins/Rangers as well.

    Can someone photoshop the Nats’ red jersey and make it white? I think I’d like that better than the regular white.[/quote]

    I beg to differ, he said at his UW picky best. Twins don’t wear royal blue.

    :)

    Doesn’t mean Cubs-Nats looks good (it’s better than navy vs. black or something, though).

    —Ricko

  • Radnip4 | July 18, 2009 at 10:14 pm |

    For Guess the Game (7.19.09). World Series Game 5 played Monday October 8, 1956 at Yankee Stadium, won by Yankees 2-0 on Don Larsen’s (#18) perfect game. Losing pitcher Sal Maglie. The notation on the scoreboard indicates a Football Giants game scheduled for October 31, time clue that it is a World Series game.
    Posted lineups of Dodger roster lists #42 at third base and Gilliam# 19, who is at bat leading off the game facing Larsen’s first pitch.

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 10:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”340913″][quote comment=”340905″][quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko![/quote]

    Hey, I missed it, too. Hope it comes back…but have my doubts. I have a dozen or so games from the first season (1987) taped from ESPN. May have to watch one of them one of these days.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was at every Arena Bowl played in Detroit and several other drive games. I was at all but two of the Detroit Fury home games and made three trips to Grand Rapids to see them play. I miss Arena Football live and in person but it sucks even worse now that it doesn’t even exist. Somewhere around here I have a tape of the game where the New York Dragons scored 100 points.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”340916″][quote comment=”340913″][quote comment=”340905″][quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko![/quote]

    Hey, I missed it, too. Hope it comes back…but have my doubts. I have a dozen or so games from the first season (1987) taped from ESPN. May have to watch one of them one of these days.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was at every Arena Bowl played in Detroit and several other drive games. I was at all but two of the Detroit Fury home games and made three trips to Grand Rapids to see them play. I miss Arena Football live and in person but it sucks even worse now that it doesn’t even exist. Somewhere around here I have a tape of the game where the New York Dragons scored 100 points.[/quote]

    Here’s a toast George LaFrance.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”340914″][quote comment=”340912″][quote comment=”340910″]My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    Rock’em Sock’em Robots

    http://cdn1.sbnation...

    Looks like the Twins/Rangers as well.

    Can someone photoshop the Nats’ red jersey and make it white? I think I’d like that better than the regular white.[/quote]

    I beg to differ, he said at his UW picky best. Twins don’t wear royal blue.

    :)

    Doesn’t mean Cubs-Nats looks good (it’s better than navy vs. black or something, though).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, I didn’t say it looked EXACTLY like the Twins/Rangers…

    Ricko, you said you had the ’87 AFL season on tape – got any of the N.E. Steamrollers? They played in ’88. I was a Pittsburgh Gladiators fan, but I liked the Steamrollers name and unis http://www.misterhab...

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”340918″][quote comment=”340914″][quote comment=”340912″][quote comment=”340910″]My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    Rock’em Sock’em Robots

    http://cdn1.sbnation...

    Looks like the Twins/Rangers as well.

    Can someone photoshop the Nats’ red jersey and make it white? I think I’d like that better than the regular white.[/quote]

    I beg to differ, he said at his UW picky best. Twins don’t wear royal blue.

    :)

    Doesn’t mean Cubs-Nats looks good (it’s better than navy vs. black or something, though).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, I didn’t say it looked EXACTLY like the Twins/Rangers…

    Ricko, you said you had the ’87 AFL season on tape – got any of the N.E. Steamrollers? They played in ’88. I was a Pittsburgh Gladiators fan, but I liked the Steamrollers name and unis http://www.misterhab...

    I might have a Steamrollers game. Not sure, to tell you the truth. Got Russell Hairson and the Gladiators for sure, though. That much I know. Was Mike Hohensee their quarterback? Wanna say he was.

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”340917″][quote comment=”340916″][quote comment=”340913″][quote comment=”340905″][quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko![/quote]

    Hey, I missed it, too. Hope it comes back…but have my doubts. I have a dozen or so games from the first season (1987) taped from ESPN. May have to watch one of them one of these days.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was at every Arena Bowl played in Detroit and several other drive games. I was at all but two of the Detroit Fury home games and made three trips to Grand Rapids to see them play. I miss Arena Football live and in person but it sucks even worse now that it doesn’t even exist. Somewhere around here I have a tape of the game where the New York Dragons scored 100 points.[/quote]

    Here’s a toast George LaFrance.[/quote]

    agreed.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    oops, Hairston.

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”340919″][quote comment=”340918″][quote comment=”340914″][quote comment=”340912″][quote comment=”340910″]My nomination for worst uni combo of the year:
    Rock’em Sock’em Robots

    http://cdn1.sbnation...

    Looks like the Twins/Rangers as well.

    Can someone photoshop the Nats’ red jersey and make it white? I think I’d like that better than the regular white.[/quote]

    I beg to differ, he said at his UW picky best. Twins don’t wear royal blue.

    :)

    Doesn’t mean Cubs-Nats looks good (it’s better than navy vs. black or something, though).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, I didn’t say it looked EXACTLY like the Twins/Rangers…

    Ricko, you said you had the ’87 AFL season on tape – got any of the N.E. Steamrollers? They played in ’88. I was a Pittsburgh Gladiators fan, but I liked the Steamrollers name and unis http://www.misterhab...

    I might have a Steamrollers game. Not sure, to tell you the truth. Got Russell Hairson and the Gladiators for sure, though. That much I know. Was Mike Hohensee their quarterback? Wanna say he was.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    First Arena Football Game I ever saw was Arena Bowl III Pittsbugh vs. Detroit at the Joe Louis Arena.

    http://www.arenafan....

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:35 pm |

    Really loved the Chicago Bruisers jerseys with lots of sleeve stripes (black, powder blue and white). Bruisers: black & blue, what else?

    These powder pants were the second season. Liked the white pants look of ’87 better. Well, only a little better.
    http://filelibrary.m...

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”340913″][quote comment=”340905″][quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko![/quote]

    Hey, I missed it, too. Hope it comes back…but have my doubts. I have a dozen or so games from the first season (1987) taped from ESPN. May have to watch one of them one of these days.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    some cool unis to help you reminisce: http://www.oursports...

    Think you miss the AFL? Imagine how this guy feels http://www.electrica...
    He’s quite the DIYer, as you’ll see.

  • BS | July 18, 2009 at 10:39 pm |

    Red Sox always wear the navy blue top on road Friday games, as long as the other team isn’t wearing a navy blue top (Rays).

  • Hibbs | July 18, 2009 at 10:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”340924″][quote comment=”340913″][quote comment=”340905″][quote comment=”340847″]I guess I am a very sick man because I miss Arena Football.[/quote]

    I’m only slightly sick…

    Good job, Ricko![/quote]

    Hey, I missed it, too. Hope it comes back…but have my doubts. I have a dozen or so games from the first season (1987) taped from ESPN. May have to watch one of them one of these days.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    some cool unis to help you reminisce: http://www.oursports...

    Think you miss the AFL? Imagine how this guy feels http://www.electrica...
    He’s quite the DIYer, as you’ll see.[/quote]

    detroit cobras or the evens

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”340923″]Really loved the Chicago Bruisers jerseys with lots of sleeve stripes (black, powder blue and white). Bruisers: black & blue, what else?

    These powder pants were the second season. Liked the white pants look of ’87 better. Well, only a little better.
    http://filelibrary.m...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I almost sent the exact same picture!

    And yes, Hohensee was the Gladiators QB – also the QB for the Washington Federals http://www.texasspor...
    Just bought a photo like this, but he’s in throwing motion in my print. Great site http://www.texasspor... with great photos for sale at a decent price.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:48 pm |

    Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 10:56 pm |

    Talking about arena football while watching baseball on TV reminded me of an old idea: how about an Arena Wiffle Ball League? I think it could work…

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”340927″][quote comment=”340923″]Really loved the Chicago Bruisers jerseys with lots of sleeve stripes (black, powder blue and white). Bruisers: black & blue, what else?

    These powder pants were the second season. Liked the white pants look of ’87 better. Well, only a little better.
    http://filelibrary.m...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I almost sent the exact same picture!

    And yes, Hohensee was the Gladiators QB – also the QB for the Washington Federals http://www.texasspor...
    Just bought a photo like this, but he’s in throwing motion in my print. Great site http://www.texasspor... with great photos for sale at a decent price.[/quote]

    Hohensee with Minnesota Gophers.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    I was at this game and as long as I live, I will swear Schlichter threw this game. On the Detroit final drive he threw into double coverage in one corner of the endzone and was pick. He had a WR open in the corner I was in.

    Oh and worst thing every about AFL. Zubaz

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”340933″][quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.[/quote]

    Don’t know why, but also been partial to that Firebirds helmet with that Foghorn Leghorn guy on it. LOL

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”340932″]I was at this game and as long as I live, I will swear Schlichter threw this game. On the Detroit final drive he threw into double coverage in one corner of the endzone and was pick. He had a WR open in the corner I was in.

    Oh and worst thing every about AFL. Zubaz[/quote]

    Great, wasn’t it (eyeroll)
    http://stillfootball...

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 11:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”340935″][quote comment=”340932″]I was at this game and as long as I live, I will swear Schlichter threw this game. On the Detroit final drive he threw into double coverage in one corner of the endzone and was pick. He had a WR open in the corner I was in.

    Oh and worst thing every about AFL. Zubaz[/quote]

    Great, wasn’t it (eyeroll)
    http://stillfootball...

    Thank goodness the Drive never used them.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”340936″][quote comment=”340935″][quote comment=”340932″]I was at this game and as long as I live, I will swear Schlichter threw this game. On the Detroit final drive he threw into double coverage in one corner of the endzone and was pick. He had a WR open in the corner I was in.

    Oh and worst thing every about AFL. Zubaz[/quote]

    Great, wasn’t it (eyeroll)
    http://stillfootball...

    Thank goodness the Drive never used them.[/quote]

    The pants were what really brought the whole thing together, though.
    http://stillfootball...

  • aflfan | July 18, 2009 at 11:10 pm |

    Next time a have some spare time, I will have to look around here. I know I have some programs from the Drive games I went to around here some place. I have some other old programs around here as well. I don’t think I have every been to a game that I didn’t get a program from.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”340933″][quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.[/quote]

    I liked ’em…

    The one game I have on tape is the Houston Thunderbears vs. the Iowa Barnstormers. Loved Iowa’s unis. Houston had a QB (Robert Hall, IIRC) who wore #88. Loved that too. Reminded me of Sam Etcheverry wearing #92 for the Alouettes.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:15 pm |

    VCR’s in bedroom. May have to rack up an ’87 Arena Game and fall asleep watching it. I’d say it would make great Sunday morning diversion, but I have softball tomorrow a.m., so tonight it is.

  • Mike | July 18, 2009 at 11:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Hate to bring this up, but I believe the Dodgers were guilty of wearing a blue jersey with white piping and the ‘LA’ logo on their chest for at least a few interleague games in the late 90’s. The accomponying cap had a silver brim if memory serves…

    Though I consider the cream Phillies jersey an alternate, it can also accurately be described a throwback. However in the early 70s they did sport an all Maroon alternate complete with a zipper!

    That leaves just the Yanks and the Cards, the 2 most successful franchises in MLB history…coincidence?

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:18 pm |

    Back when I was married, got to know Willis Jacox (one of Kurt Warner’s main targets with Barnstormers) a little. He was the main squeeze of a woman who worked with my wife. He and I would go outside at company parties, smoke cigars and talk football.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”340934″][quote comment=”340933″][quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.[/quote]

    Don’t know why, but also been partial to that Firebirds helmet with that Foghorn Leghorn guy on it. LOL[/quote]

    Always thought the Firebird http://blog.timesuni... looked like the Buzzard from Cleveland’s WMMS http://airchexx.com/...

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”340940″][quote comment=”340933″][quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.[/quote]

    I liked ’em…

    The one game I have on tape is the Houston Thunderbears vs. the Iowa Barnstormers. Loved Iowa’s unis. Houston had a QB (Robert Hall, IIRC) who wore #88. Loved that too. Reminded me of Sam Etcheverry wearing #92 for the Alouettes.[/quote]

    http://en.montrealal...
    So did QB Bernie Faloney of the Ti-Cats.
    http://www.cflapedia...

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”340945″][quote comment=”340934″][quote comment=”340933″][quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.[/quote]

    Don’t know why, but also been partial to that Firebirds helmet with that Foghorn Leghorn guy on it. LOL[/quote]

    Always thought the Firebird http://blog.timesuni... looked like the Buzzard from Cleveland’s WMMS http://airchexx.com/...

    “Ah say, boy, Ah say, Ah am NOT a chicken.”
    http://www.wcfcourie...

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:30 pm |

    Oh, look, a chart that could be called “The Descent of a Football Jersey.”
    http://en.montrealal...

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”340947″][quote comment=”340945″][quote comment=”340934″][quote comment=”340933″][quote comment=”340930″][quote comment=”340928″]Some intriguing helmets in Arena League.
    Scroll down to Memphis Pharaohs, for one.
    http://www.nationalc...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I always like the red Dallas Texans helmet.[/quote]

    How ’bout Connecticut Coyotes’ take on Princeton-Michigan? Notttttt so good.[/quote]

    Don’t know why, but also been partial to that Firebirds helmet with that Foghorn Leghorn guy on it. LOL[/quote]

    Always thought the Firebird http://blog.timesuni... looked like the Buzzard from Cleveland’s WMMS http://airchexx.com/...

    “Ah say, boy, Ah say, Ah am NOT a chicken.”
    http://www.wcfcourie...

    When I first saw the “Ah…” I thought you were going to show us a Junior Ah You photo: http://hawaiisportsh...
    Couldn’t blame me for thinking that right after seeing Etcheverry…

  • JTH | July 18, 2009 at 11:34 pm |

    Fitting indeed that I get to read a Jeremy Brahm post today. This afternoon, I saw a guy wearing a Hanshin Tigers jersey (like this, not these) and for the life of me, I couldn’t remember the team’s nickname and it was bugging the shit out of me for hours. (The sleeve patch on his jersey was either missing or I just didn’t see it.) I kept thinking Giants, but I knew that was wrong because it’s the Yomiuri Giants.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 11:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”340948″]Oh, look, a chart that could be called “The Descent of a Football Jersey.”
    http://en.montrealal...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I prefer “The Rise and Fall of a Football Jersey.” ’74-’81 was the tops IMHO.

  • Ricko | July 18, 2009 at 11:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”340951″][quote comment=”340948″]Oh, look, a chart that could be called “The Descent of a Football Jersey.”
    http://en.montrealal...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I prefer “The Rise and Fall of a Football Jersey.” ’74-’81 was the tops IMHO.[/quote]

    Yes, better. Agreed. Will always be a fan of the Pepsi years.

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 11:50 pm |

    http://www.tsn.ca/St... Ti-Cats wimp out on Retro Day and put old TC logo on Black helmets instead of yellow. Otherwise, great look.

  • sgalop | July 18, 2009 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”340931″][quote comment=”340927″][quote comment=”340923″]Really loved the Chicago Bruisers jerseys with lots of sleeve stripes (black, powder blue and white). Bruisers: black & blue, what else?

    These powder pants were the second season. Liked the white pants look of ’87 better. Well, only a little better.
    http://filelibrary.m...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I almost sent the exact same picture!

    And yes, Hohensee was the Gladiators QB – also the QB for the Washington Federals http://www.texasspor...
    Just bought a photo like this, but he’s in throwing motion in my print. Great site http://www.texasspor... with great photos for sale at a decent price.[/quote]

    Hohensee with Minnesota Gophers.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    a glorious gopher uni

  • JimV19 | July 18, 2009 at 11:56 pm |

    Not enough stripes, either http://static.cdn.mr... but I applaud the CFL’s overall effort.

  • JTH | July 19, 2009 at 12:22 am |

    [quote comment=”340942″][quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Hate to bring this up, but I believe the Dodgers were guilty of wearing a blue jersey with white piping and the ‘LA’ logo on their chest for at least a few interleague games in the late 90’s. The accomponying cap had a silver brim if memory serves…

    Though I consider the cream Phillies jersey an alternate, it can also accurately be described a throwback. However in the early 70s they did sport an all Maroon alternate complete with a zipper!

    That leaves just the Yanks and the Cards, the 2 most successful franchises in MLB history…coincidence?[/quote]
    Dodgers didn’t just wear them for interleague. This is in San Diego.

    Here’s Three Rivers. (color’s obviously messed up)

    San Diego again.

    As has been pointed out a couple times in the comments, the Cardinals did in fact wear a one-off red jersey (can’t find a pic right now). Of course, there was this as well.

    And as for the Yankees never wearing a dark/alt jersey? Eat it, Yankees purists.

  • =bg= | July 19, 2009 at 12:22 am |

    [quote comment=”340932″]I was at this game and as long as I live, I will swear Schlichter threw this game. On the Detroit final drive he threw into double coverage in one corner of the endzone and was pick. He had a WR open in the corner I was in.

    Oh and worst thing every about AFL. Zubaz[/quote]

    Art Schlichter throwing a game? Illegal gambling? Really?

  • JTH | July 19, 2009 at 12:33 am |

    Something that occurred to me today… We lambaste the Blue Jays for wearing black (and rightfully so, their unis are atrocious), but if you think about it, it really makes a lot more sense than the Cardinals wearing blue.

  • Nick | July 19, 2009 at 1:59 am |

    [quote comment=”340850″][quote comment=”340849″]How many MLB teams have never — NEVER — worn an “Alt” jersey? I mean a true alternate jersey –i.e. colored — because we all know by now that everyone wears throwbacks at some point. I can only think of a few…

    St Louis
    LA Dodgers
    NY Yankees
    Philadelphia (unless you count their weekend home creams)

    And I think that is it. I have to admit that I’m forever grateful to my Cards for not coming out with some awful red or navy number. I’m not crazy about the Sunday home hat, but I can deal with it[/quote]

    Yeah, that Sunday hat always has come off as a affectation, hasn’t it. Just doesn’t seem necessary.

    And I’m one who really likes the navy road hat because some pretty legendary Cardinals wore it (Musial, Gibson, Boyer, Brock, et al), including the ’64 W-S team.

    Linked to this before, but it’s such a good look at those unis.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    AGREED,

    But as great as the Cards unis present and past are, how much BETTER would they be with their wearing the Musial-era cap ewith their road unis …..

  • Nick | July 19, 2009 at 2:05 am |

    [quote comment=”340870″]Oh, Santa Maria! This is my new guilty uniform secret pleasure: http://cfs3.tistory....
    This beats the crap outta that minor-league tuxedo uni we saw this week. Somebody (not everybody, but SOMEBODY) in the states needs to use this design.[/quote]

    Not to provoke a 911 call for PL, but My high school wore these same unis in PURPLE with white pinstripes !!!!

  • Nick | July 19, 2009 at 2:23 am |

    [quote comment=”340935″][quote comment=”340932″]I was at this game and as long as I live, I will swear Schlichter threw this game. On the Detroit final drive he threw into double coverage in one corner of the endzone and was pick. He had a WR open in the corner I was in.

    Oh and worst thing every about AFL. Zubaz[/quote]

    Great, wasn’t it (eyeroll)
    http://stillfootball...

    The WORST thing about Zubaz was that I believe all of the Arena teams, except one, wore it and you could not ever get away from it.

    I once ended up in an elevator at the Superdome with one of the Arena League commissioners during the New Orleans Night’s inaugural season (there were only two seasons for that team before they, I believe, moved to Miami and became the Miami Hooters- complete with the corporate tie-in) and when I told the Commish that the should get rid of the Zubaz, he laughed and rolled his eyes and agreed with me, saying they were hideous, but that the AFL were stuck with them for another year after that because of a contract.

  • kf | July 19, 2009 at 2:28 am |

    Russell Martin was wearing some black and yeallow batting gloves during today’s game. Any info?

  • Hibbs | July 19, 2009 at 2:35 am |

    [quote comment=”340958″]Something that occurred to me today… We lambaste the Blue Jays for wearing black (and rightfully so, their unis are atrocious), but if you think about it, it really makes a lot more sense than the Cardinals wearing blue.[/quote]
    Cardinals don’t have “red” in their name. Blue Jays do. Have “blue”, that is.
    Chaka Khan.
    Should the Steelers wear some steely ass silver?
    Fuck 2 no.

  • Hibbs | July 19, 2009 at 2:50 am |

    [quote comment=”340963″][quote comment=”340958″]Something that occurred to me today… We lambaste the Blue Jays for wearing black (and rightfully so, their unis are atrocious), but if you think about it, it really makes a lot more sense than the Cardinals wearing blue.[/quote]
    Cardinals don’t have “red” in their name. Blue Jays do. Have “blue”, that is.
    Chaka Khan.
    Should the Steelers wear some steely ass silver?
    Fuck 2 no.[/quote]

    Then again, the Red Sox and White Sox have very little of those said colors.
    Fuck it.
    Theoretically, not one of these scenarios means a thing. The Blue Jays dilemma comes in the fact that they had beautiful blue hats and accents in their past. They left something good for something bad.

    -Trees

  • Hibbs | July 19, 2009 at 2:56 am |

    Good night, Uny Watch.