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And to Think That They Did It All Without Steroids

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As Kirsten and I were meandering our way to Baltimore last week, we passed through York, Pennsylvania. A few miles outside of town we spotted the very enticing York Barbell complex, which includes the USA Weightlifting Hall of Fame. This clearly merited further study, so we stopped in for a visit.

The dude sculpted in bronze out front is York Barbell founder and legendary strongman Bob Hoffman (or at least he appears to be legendary in York; I’d never heard of him before). There’s another sculpture of him inside, along with several displays devoted to his life, career, and achievements. He apparently liked softball as much as weightlifting.

The rest of the Hall was a hodgepodge of barbells, strength equipment, and old photos (I really like that one, which shows U.S. Olympian Steve Sheppard), along with some interesting displays. Here are some highlights:

This belt (additional views here and here — sorry about the glare) was presented to strongman Warren Lincoln Travis in 1907 by the National Police Gazette, recognizing him as “The Strongest Man in the World.” Ol’ Trav was the namesake of the1500-pound Travis Dumbbell. How big is it? This big. According to the Hall’s promo literature, “When the ends were removed, the gloves could be separated and filled with water, sand, scrap metal, or leadshot, to dramatically increase its weight. Travis, who weight approximately 190 pounds, hip-lifted this gigantic hunk of iron at each of his roughly 80 shows per week for years.”

• Someone — maybe Travis? — supposedly ripped this licence plate to shreds with his bare hands.

• The best room in the Hall is devoted to competitive weightlifting, with lots of displays featuring Olympic pins, ticket stubs, medals, ribbons, photos (I couldn’t stop gawking at Paul Anderson’s freakishly huge thighs), charts, and even trading cards.

• Uni-wise, it was interesting to see many of the international lifters wearing their national crests, as seen on these competitors from great Britain, Russia, Egypt, and Japan.

• In weightlifting, as in any other sport, everything looks better in striped socks.

• And things look even better than that with a striped jersey.

• All the photos were nice, but I was disappointed by the near-total dearth of tourney-worn uniforms. The one exception: these old boots.

All in all, a very nice roadside diversion. Free admission, too. But I’m still not interested in eating spinach.

Incidentally, that sign that first caught our eye (which I believe is Bob Hoffman again) doesn’t just sit there — it revolves! How cool is that?!

Uni Watch News Ticker: Lots of talk about hidden symbols in logos here (with thanks to Chris Ashworth). … “The University of Michigan-Flint (basically one of the lesser satellite campuses) has started a club football team,” writes Aram Sarkisian. “Instead of using the classic Michigan look, they decided to tweak the uniforms a little bit. As a Michigan grad and lifelong fan, the helmets are making me dry-heave over here. This is why you don’t mess with the classics.” … A low-budget airline has struck up a marketing deal with the Raiders. Note that the player in the middle is clearly a lineman, and is therefore wearing the wrong number (good spot by Noel Basnight). … Speaking of wrong uni numbers, look at this old photo of Shaq (with thanks to Terence O’Donohue). … Outraged observation from Jerry Pilarz, who writes: “Here in KC, there is no rival in any sport more hated than the Denver Broncos (yes, for previous generations it was the Raiders, but now it’s the Broncos, fortified by the fact that Elway had more 4th quarter comebacks against the Chiefs than against any other team). Anyway, one of the suburbs is building a new arena tailor made for minor league hockey, capacity 5,000. The new team announced their new mascot and logo yesterday. Fail! I don’t see a bright merchandising future for this team in this market.” The bigger question, of course, is why the logo character appears to be wearing Cooperalls. … And hey, speaking of bad minor league hockey team logos, this was unveiled yesterday. Man, what a stinker (with thanks to Stan Capp). … Check out this spectacular military baseball team from 1911 (great find by Bruce Menard). … SNY has produced a new documentary about the 1969 Mets (there’s a trailer here). Unfortunately, the show’s official graphics all feature apostrophe catastrophes. … I think we’ve shown Central Michigan’s new football uni on a mannequin, but here it is on a player (with thanks to Andrew Monson). … There was a decent uni discussion on Wednesday’s PTI, and Doug Keklak has performed a public service by providing a transcript. … Always fun to see Mr. Irrelevant honored with a No. 256 jersey. … The White Sox wore 1959 throwbacks yesterday. … Those Iranian soccer players who wore green armbands in support of the political opposition movement have been banned from the team. … New home kit for Man U (with thanks to Anthony Emerson). … In other soccer news, the recently unveiled Feyernoord kit didn’t go over well with fans, so the team and Puma have decided to change the design (with thanks to Stephen Wong). … The Yomiuri Giants will wear 1936 throwbacks on July 7th-9th against the Yokohama Bay Stars (as reported by, of course, Jeremy Brahm). … Also from Jeremy: “The Hanshin Tigers have been wearing a green wristband. It says ‘Let’s shou [in pictograph] time!’ It is a promotion to shorten (shou) games and use less energy for night games. They are hoping to average three hours a game for all games. Right now they are at 3:06.”

 

121 comments to And to Think That They Did It All Without Steroids

  • Mark in Shiga | June 26, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    Those Yomiuri Giants throwbacks are cool enough, but what they really need to do is wear the ones from the 1935 tour of the US, which have Japanese numerals on the backs. Now those are awesome.

  • ESS | June 26, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    Been past that place hundreds of times and never thought to stop in! Thanks for the tour Paul. Great stuff.

  • Peter | June 26, 2009 at 8:55 am |

    The AHL Heat had a golden opportunity to use the old Atlanta Flames “A”…above the Iowa Chops but below the Ice Hogs….terrible logo

  • TMD | June 26, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    It looks like ESPN missed the memo about Philly switching logos. Chad Ford’s draft column is still showing the old 76ers logo.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Tris Wykes | June 26, 2009 at 8:58 am |

    I hate to say it, but I kinda like the UM-Flint helmet design. I wonder if there’s something in my Mt. Dew this morning…

  • leon | June 26, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    re: mr. irrelevant photo- always like seeing my squaws in compression shorts.

  • Robert Eden (formerly Robert in Dallas) | June 26, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    The Missouri Mavericks? Another team called the Mavericks with a horse as a mascot? What gives? Mavericks are cattle, not a horses.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 26, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment=”336968″]Those Yomiuri Giants throwbacks are cool enough, but what they really need to do is wear the ones from the 1935 tour of the US, which have Japanese numerals on the backs. Now those are awesome.[/quote]

    Mark, I agree with you considering it is a normal anniversary, 75th an all, but for whatever reason Adidas felt that this was easier to do.

  • SpfldNate | June 26, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    Shaq never got to wear 33 for the Magic because Terry Catledge had it and wasn’t going to give it up. Who, you say? Exactly.

  • Scott Davis | June 26, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    I think there should be a rule that if you are going to do throwbacks, that they creeps NEED to stay off the arms. The Tokyo Giants jersey is brilliant except for that stupid Adidas patch on the sleeve.

  • Stoops | June 26, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    and remember Shaq wore 33 in college at LSU.
    Which was why when he was with the Lakers he had to wear 34.
    since 32 and 33 were both taken-and obviously retired.
    Why do all of these teams change unis?
    and then go back to their originals?
    Leave well enough alone!
    Being an ex equipment manager I used to hate when teams came in with razzle dazzle unis.
    Except when we played Florida A&M-nothing subtle about anything they did-especially that band!!
    -Stoops

  • Kek | June 26, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    Wow, awesome shots from the York museum. I used to do a little competitive powerlifting (different from olympic lifting as PL is squat-bench-deadlift-total while OL is clean-and-jerk/snatch-total) so it takes me back.

    My nephew is playing in the Keystone Games in York this summer, I’ll have to recommend they stop by.

  • Mike Engle | June 26, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”336972″]I hate to say it, but I kinda like the UM-Flint helmet design. I wonder if there’s something in my Mt. Dew this morning…[/quote]
    I honestly don’t think it’s that bad either. Technically, the Michigan wings aren’t a design: the motif is a transcription from the leather helmet days. So I’m OK with a small UM satellite riffing on the UM icon for club team purposes. Especially when it’s UM-Flint. With a name like Flint, why shouldn’t it get set on fire?
    I vote terrible if it were in Ann Arbor, but OK for Flint.

  • Mike Edgerly | June 26, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”336976″]Shaq never got to wear 33 for the Magic because Terry Catledge had it and wasn’t going to give it up. Who, you say? Exactly.[/quote]
    Ah.. The “Cat Man”, have to dig deep for that one!

    I also believe that Otis Smith, now the Magic GM and the last to wear #32 before Shaq, also graciously let him wear that #…

  • Hott Rodd | June 26, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    “Note that the player in the middle is clearly a lineman, and is therefore wearing the wrong number”

    Clearly a lineman, or JaMarcus Russell..

    Put me firmly in the “I like em” Category for the Flint Unis. when that helmet came up I said “SWEET!” Of course I fail to see the purpose of the winged helmet in this day and age..

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 10:00 am |

    Nice to see that the Sox used the 1959 lettering on their batting helmets, too.

    I get that the Dodgers were wearing unis VERY similar to their 1959 look, but would it have killed them to ditch the “LA” patch on the sleeve and have a blue stripe down the placket?

    http://exhibits.base...

  • JL | June 26, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”336976″]Shaq never got to wear 33 for the Magic because Terry Catledge had it and wasn’t going to give it up. Who, you say? Exactly.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”336978″]and remember Shaq wore 33 in college at LSU.
    Which was why when he was with the Lakers he had to wear 34.
    since 32 and 33 were both taken-and obviously retired.[/quote]

    The Cavs’ website currently has a “Welcome to Cleveland Shaq” intro in which Shaq is wearing a photoshopped numberless jersey…
    http://www.nba.com/c...

    I still stick to my comment from yesterday that I’m guessing Shaq will wear #33 in Cleveland unless he throws a curveball and picks some off-the-wall number. Again, #34 is retired to Austin Carr, and as long as he’s still on the roster Joe Smith occupies #32. We’ll find out soon enough…

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Bernard | June 26, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    My favorite cousin (What up, Jeff Black?!) lived in York, PA when I was growing up. I always knew we were getting close to his house when I saw that rotating musclehead. Great stuff!

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    Boo hoo: a school in Michigan isn’t using the sacrosanct Wolverine design.

    The branches of schools like Wisconsin and Texas A&M don’t even use the same COLORS as the original campus, much less the same design.

    Stop the insanity.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 26, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”336975″][quote comment=”336968″]Those Yomiuri Giants throwbacks are cool enough, but what they really need to do is wear the ones from the 1935 tour of the US, which have Japanese numerals on the backs. Now those are awesome.[/quote]

    Mark, I agree with you considering it is a normal anniversary, 75th an all, but for whatever reason Adidas felt that this was easier to do.[/quote]

    Jeremy, it’s possible that there’s a league rule stating that jersey numbers have to be European “Arabic” numerals. An amateur league I once played in had this rule for team uniforms, so that nobody would make a mockery of it by assigning huge numbers that can be expressed with one “digit”, like a trillion (兆), or even 10^48 (極).

    If you limited people to the ten basic digits (〇一二三四五六七八九), including zero, I think it would be fine. Also, a human being’s back is better suited to two vertically-aligned digits than two horizontally-aligned ones.

  • DW | June 26, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    Appropriate uni-related comment for today:
    One white glove.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    The best I’ve found so far is this photo. It shows the stripe around the sleeve, but you can’t make out a stripe down the shoulder.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • mike 2 | June 26, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”336970″]The AHL Heat had a golden opportunity to use the old Atlanta Flames “A”…above the Iowa Chops but below the Ice Hogs….terrible logo[/quote]

    Its a great idea but it was never going to happen – they weren’t going to brand a team in a Vancouver suburb with logos or uniforms that look like the Calgary parent club. If the team had been anywhere else starting with an A, that would have been absolutely perfect.

  • Bernard | June 26, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    The new Man U home kit is sharp. I’m a sucker for red/black/white, in just about those exact proportions.

  • Eriq Jaffe | June 26, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    Paul, you forgot to specify that the Sox wore really half-assed throwbacks yesterday.

    The Sox did it right in 2005, and that really made the shoddiness of this year\’s model stick out like a sore thumb. Wrong font, wrong socks (although Carrasco had the decency to wear stirrups, even wearing them at an era-appropriate height), the jersey wasn\’t even the right color. Bleh. Just…bleh.

  • Eriq Jaffe | June 26, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    Meh, my links got munged. For comparison’s sake:

    2005

    2009

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”336989″]Appropriate uni-related comment for today:
    One white glove.[/quote]Touching what part of your anatomy?

  • -Vince | June 26, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    Puck Daddy has a good one…

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Scott Davis | June 26, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”336995″][quote comment=”336989″]Appropriate uni-related comment for today:
    One white glove.[/quote]Touching what part of your anatomy?[/quote]

    I looked up at your username and started cracking up.

    I saw “touching what part”, and then “another guy”.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    Here are some interesting photos I’ve found while killing time this morning:

    Yogi Berra as a Met, 1965
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Tom Seaver, Spring Training, 1976 (what’s the black armband for?)
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Pete Rose, 1965, wearing the vest and ice-cream cap
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Casey Stengal, circa 1912-17, wearing sunglasses in the outfield for the Brooklyn Dodgers
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Hank Aaron, 1969. Ricko will appreciate this one b/c it shows the Braves did wear the red-billed caps with their home pins in ’69.
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | June 26, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    Travis obviously didn’t rip the license plate, as it has a 1994 registration sticker on it.

  • LI Phil | June 26, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    how come in the sox throwback to the 59 “go go sox” game yesterday, two of the honorees (#7 “Jungle” Jim Rivera & #19 Bill Pierce) wore two distinctly different jerseys?

    one is obviously a majestic repro, but is the other an orig? why wouldn’t they all have the same jersey

    in this pic…2 of the four have the repros and two have the old jerseys…and why is there such a discrepancy in the two?

    look, for example at the first pic for stripe spacing and the tv numbers

    i donno…it just offends my ocd and anal retentiveness for them not to have four identical jerseys

  • JTH | June 26, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”337000″]how come in the sox throwback to the 59 “go go sox” game yesterday, two of the honorees (#7 “Jungle” Jim Rivera & #19 Bill Pierce) wore two distinctly different jerseys?

    one is obviously a majestic repro, but is the other an orig? why wouldn’t they all have the same jersey

    in this pic…2 of the four have the repros and two have the old jerseys…and why is there such a discrepancy in the two?

    look, for example at the first pic for stripe spacing and the tv numbers

    i donno…it just offends my ocd and anal retentiveness for them not to have four identical jerseys[/quote]It’s nearly impossible to tell for sure from that picture, but the “old” ones don’t look like wool flannel to me.

    I wonder if the two cream-colored ones are leftovers from the 2005 throwback game that Eriq pointed out in comment #24-25.

  • DGL | June 26, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    I just like the reference to “famed Raiderettes April Dizon, Angel McCoy and Amanda Voecks.”

    Wait, individual Raiderettes are famous?

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    and here’s a couple more for Ricko:

    Willie and Hank in August 1969, with Hank wearing the solid navy cap with the home pins.
    http://www.flickr.co...

    But then there’s Felipe Alou in September 1969, with the red-billed cap returning.
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • leon | June 26, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    Casey Stengal, circa 1912-17, wearing sunglasses in the outfield for the Brooklyn Dodgers
    http://www.flickr.co

    are you certain that’s not bernie lomax?

  • interlockingtc | June 26, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    These road trip entries are the best.

    Of course, if you spot a rotating weightlifter atop a building you must stop and investigate!

    My favorite picture is of the amazing boots and what surrounds them:

    “Those Russians!”
    “Are there any Virgins?”

    and lastly…

    “GOERNER The Mighty”

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”337000″]
    i donno…it just offends my ocd and anal retentiveness for them not to have four identical jerseys[/quote]Looks like Jungle Jim wore the 2005 throwback and Billy picked up a new one at the ballpark yesterday.

    Someone (and there’s a very good possibility I read it right here) talked about the differences from their prior attempt; and one was cream vs. white.

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”337001″]I wonder if the two cream-colored ones are leftovers from the 2005 throwback game that Eriq pointed out in comment #24-25.[/quote]That’s what I think.

    I know that Billy Pierce still resides in the Chicago area, and I’ve never heard that Rivera lives nearby: I wonder if that makes a difference?

  • leon | June 26, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    But then there’s Felipe Alou in September 1969, with the red-billed cap returning.
    http://www.flickr.co

    nice throe

  • Ricko | June 26, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”337003″]and here’s a couple more for Ricko:

    Willie and Hank in August 1969, with Hank wearing the solid navy cap with the home pins.
    http://www.flickr.co...

    But then there’s Felipe Alou in September 1969, with the red-billed cap returning.
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Thank you vurr much.
    (online Elvis imitation. Not bad, huh.)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 26, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    See this issue, top right photo, thumbnail p. 23.
    http://vault.sportsi...

  • leon | June 26, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”337002″]I just like the reference to “famed Raiderettes April Dizon, Angel McCoy and Amanda Voecks.”

    Wait, individual Raiderettes are famous?[/quote]

    i suspect they were chosen for this assignment (presumably by the “head” raiderette) based on some sort of alphabetical rotation, using first names so as not to make it too complicated.

  • JTH | June 26, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    I gotta say that I dig the Flint unis as well.

    I love the way that they’re riffing on Crisler’s helmet stripes. I also love the jerseys — especially the white one.

    They remind me of the old Rams unis.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”337008″]But then there’s Felipe Alou in September 1969, with the red-billed cap returning.
    http://www.flickr.co

    nice throe[/quote]

    The caption came with the pic. I didn’t write it.

  • Ricko | June 26, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”337010″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    See this issue, top right photo, thumbnail p. 23.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    and Charley Neal, 1959 World Series.
    http://images.google...

  • Ricko | June 26, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”337014″][quote comment=”337010″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    See this issue, top right photo, thumbnail p. 23.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    and Charley Neal, 1959 World Series.
    http://images.google...

    Sorry. With all the talk of the ’59 White Sox, I thought that said “1959” and you were wondering about piping on the Dodger roads that year.

    Have no idea about those sleeveless things from ’99.

    —Ricko

  • mtjaws | June 26, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    I’ll tune in to weightlifting for a bit at the Olympics, just to see how they do. Or a gruesome injury!

    And I always enjoy seeing collectible pins, especially covering all of the Olympics. It’s probably a great thing to collect, but can be pricey these days. And if I did collect, I’d want to have them all.

  • gusto | June 26, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    I have no problems with the altered helmet design for the University of Michigan-Flint club football team. With Michigan’s unemployment woes, I just discovered UM-Flint is now offering majors in carjacking!

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    From left to right: Gets his ring the following year; Got his ring in 1990; “No soup for you!”

    Larkin and Bonds are both wearing the wristbands with their faces on them.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Ricko | June 26, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”337018″]From left to right: Gets his ring the following year; Got his ring in 1990; “No soup for you!”

    Larkin and Bonds are both wearing the wristbands with their faces on them.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Faceband was primitive version of Facebook. Way ahead of its time.

    —Ricko

  • Wollen1 | June 26, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    Kornheiser and Wilbon are great on PTI, but my God do they appear to be a couple of f__king imbiciles when read in transcript form.

  • LI Phil | June 26, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”337018″]From left to right: Gets his ring the following year; Got his ring in 1990; “No soup for you!”

    Larkin and Bonds are both wearing the wristbands with their faces on them.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    pretty sure those are bonds’ irony special sweatbands

  • Stu | June 26, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    Is that blurry Nike logo creep on the left in that Man U link?

  • Jeff P | June 26, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”337018″]From left to right: Gets his ring the following year; Got his ring in 1990; “No soup for you!”

    Larkin and Bonds are both wearing the wristbands with their faces on them.

    http://www.flickr.co...
    Wow, the color balance on that is screwed up.

    An orange bill on a navy hat is an interesting look though.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    Way to go, Hoopie. One week after Goodell warns everybody that he’s serious about players avoiding DUI’s during the NFL dead period, this guy gets busted drinking and driving. Is it really that hard???

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Jeff | June 26, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Regarding the 1999 blue sleeves… not a chance.

  • leon | June 26, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    UofM-Flint football team entering into sponsorship deal to allay costs in cash-strapped Michigan. Sponsor’s patch to appear on practice jerseys.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • JTH | June 26, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”337015″][quote comment=”337014″][quote comment=”337010″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    See this issue, top right photo, thumbnail p. 23.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    and Charley Neal, 1959 World Series.
    http://images.google...

    Sorry. With all the talk of the ’59 White Sox, I thought that said “1959” and you were wondering about piping on the Dodger roads that year.

    Have no idea about those sleeveless things from ’99.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    OK, with all this talk about the 1959 jerseys, just how off-white were they at the time? Obviously, when you look at Nellie Fox’s jersey, it’s pretty far from white — but it’s 50 years old. Did it start out white (or pretty close to white) and the aging process yellowed it?

    I know this could have a lot to do with the photogaphy, the way it was developed, scanned, etc, but looking at this vintage picture of Fox, the jersey does look a bit dirty, but otherwise pretty white (it seems to be about the same color as the cap logo — or were those more beige than white back then as well?).

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”337025″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Regarding the 1999 blue sleeves… not a chance.[/quote]

    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don’t remember those unis at all.

  • Seth H | June 26, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    Re Post 33:

    Mets wore a black armband in 76 for Joan Payson, their original owner, who died October 75.

  • Teebz | June 26, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”336991″][quote comment=”336970″]The AHL Heat had a golden opportunity to use the old Atlanta Flames “A”…above the Iowa Chops but below the Ice Hogs….terrible logo[/quote]

    Its a great idea but it was never going to happen – they weren’t going to brand a team in a Vancouver suburb with logos or uniforms that look like the Calgary parent club. If the team had been anywhere else starting with an A, that would have been absolutely perfect.[/quote]

    Except they did. The Heat are wearing the exact same jerseys and colours with two minor exceptions: the flag is a BC flag instead of an Alberta flag for obvious reasons, and the accent colour of yellow has been changed to gray.

    I went over it on my blog yesterday.

  • mike 2 | June 26, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”337021″][quote comment=”337018″]From left to right: Gets his ring the following year; Got his ring in 1990; “No soup for you!”

    Larkin and Bonds are both wearing the wristbands with their faces on them.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    pretty sure those are bonds’ irony special sweatbands[/quote]

    Pittsburgh baseball in 1987 was a weird place. The drug trials had just happened, players admitted to buying coke in stadium bathrooms, and even the mascot was implicated.

    So I guess “just say no to drugs” made sense at the time, though you’re right about the irony it took on later.

  • mike 2 | June 26, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”337032″][quote comment=”336991″][quote comment=”336970″]The AHL Heat had a golden opportunity to use the old Atlanta Flames “A”…above the Iowa Chops but below the Ice Hogs….terrible logo[/quote]

    Its a great idea but it was never going to happen – they weren’t going to brand a team in a Vancouver suburb with logos or uniforms that look like the Calgary parent club. If the team had been anywhere else starting with an A, that would have been absolutely perfect.[/quote]

    Except they did. The Heat are wearing the exact same jerseys and colours with two minor exceptions: the flag is a BC flag instead of an Alberta flag for obvious reasons, and the accent colour of yellow has been changed to gray.

    I went over it on my blog yesterday.[/quote]

    My bad – I’d only seen the logo, not the uniforms. I’m surprised at how similar they look to the flames.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 26, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”337031″]Re Post 33:

    Mets wore a black armband in 76 for Joan Payson, their original owner, who died October 75.[/quote]

    Thanks

  • Teebz | June 26, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”337034″][quote comment=”337032″][quote comment=”336991″][quote comment=”336970″]The AHL Heat had a golden opportunity to use the old Atlanta Flames “A”…above the Iowa Chops but below the Ice Hogs….terrible logo[/quote]

    Its a great idea but it was never going to happen – they weren’t going to brand a team in a Vancouver suburb with logos or uniforms that look like the Calgary parent club. If the team had been anywhere else starting with an A, that would have been absolutely perfect.[/quote]

    Except they did. The Heat are wearing the exact same jerseys and colours with two minor exceptions: the flag is a BC flag instead of an Alberta flag for obvious reasons, and the accent colour of yellow has been changed to gray.

    I went over it on my blog yesterday.[/quote]

    My bad – I’d only seen the logo, not the uniforms. I’m surprised at how similar they look to the flames.[/quote]

    No worries, Mike. I think the Flames are retarded for not using the Atlanta logo for Abbotsford. The Heat logo looks like it could be for anything – a soft drink, motorcross, NASCAR… literally anything.

  • Bernard | June 26, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”337024″]Way to go, Hoopie. One week after Goodell warns everybody that he’s serious about players avoiding DUI’s during the NFL dead period, this guy gets busted drinking and driving. Is it really that hard???

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Whoa… “Hoopie”? Really?

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”336980″][quote comment=”336972″]I hate to say it, but I kinda like the UM-Flint helmet design. I wonder if there’s something in my Mt. Dew this morning…[/quote]
    I honestly don’t think it’s that bad either. Technically, the Michigan wings aren’t a design: the motif is a transcription from the leather helmet days. So I’m OK with a small UM satellite riffing on the UM icon for club team purposes. Especially when it’s UM-Flint. With a name like Flint, why shouldn’t it get set on fire?
    I vote terrible if it were in Ann Arbor, but OK for Flint.[/quote]

    My sentiments exactly. Keep them in Flint.

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”336992″]The new Man U home kit is sharp. I’m a sucker for red/black/white, in just about those exact proportions.[/quote]

    To each his own, my friend. They just give me another reason to root for Man City. Must be the whole Red Devils thing (devils and clowns give me the creeps), because usually I like red, black and white.

  • Squiddie | June 26, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    I prefer the Manchester United shirt with the white collar and chest v design that was floating around awhile back. The black just doesn’t cut it on the red shirt.

    The keeper shirt would make for a good away kit. The Man U site says they’ll be announcing the away kit on July 1.

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”337033″][quote comment=”337021″][quote comment=”337018″]

    Pittsburgh baseball in 1987 was a weird place. The drug trials had just happened, players admitted to buying coke in stadium bathrooms, and even the mascot was implicated.
    quote]

    No wonder they had auditions for a new Pirate Parrot! I actually went for an interview – took a day off from my then-Ponderosa-grill-cook duties and drove 2 hours to sit in a room with a bunch of other prospective mascots. Never even made it to the tryout part of the process.

    ’87 was weird. I remember going to see the Pirates’ final game of the season while listening to the Steelers strike-replacement team on the radio. I think Reggie Collier was the QB that day.

  • skott daltonic | June 26, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    i love that the white sox used proper helmets. cool touch.

  • LI Phil | June 26, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”337042″]i love that the white sox used proper helmets. cool touch.[/quote]

    well…as proper as a cool flo can be, yes ;)

  • Mike Harris | June 26, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    Haven’t had time to wade through it all yet, but EA Sports’ NCAA Football 2010 has a pretty extensive set of uniform pictures up now. Usually a few nuggets about uni changes in there. My apologies if somebody has already posted a link:

    http://ncaafootball....

  • JTH | June 26, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”337043″][quote comment=”337042″]i love that the white sox used proper helmets. cool touch.[/quote]

    well…as proper as a cool flo can be, yes ;)[/quote]
    I noticed that AJ Pierzynski’s catching helmet (he uses one of those newfangled Wilson jobs that’s like a flapless Coolflo) had the throwback decal on it as well.

    I tried to get a screen grab of it last night and there were a couple shots where you could tell it wasn’t the standard logo, but there was no clear shot of it so I didn’t bother.

  • Eriq Jaffe | June 26, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”337001″]I wonder if the two cream-colored ones are leftovers from the 2005 throwback game that Eriq pointed out in comment #24-25.[/quote]I find it funny to imagine that Jungle Jim might’ve scored himself an authentic game-worn Timo Perez jersey.

    Honestly, I could have forgiven the crisp whiteness if they had at least gotten the font right. That skinny font was so distinctive, and then Majestic just goes ahead and throws the fattest looking block font they had on there. Looks like the exact same font they put on the Civil Rights Game jerseys, in fact.

    At least they got the raglan sleeves right!

  • Kek | June 26, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”337020″]Kornheiser and Wilbon are great on PTI, but my God do they appear to be a couple of f__king imbiciles when read in transcript form.[/quote]
    For a second Reali had some street cred with me, calling out Wilbon on the insane notion that the Broncos’ helmets were baby blue!

    Then he’s like “who cares” and goes back to just being the tool that is!!!

  • Jim | June 26, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    If you like stories about “strongmen” and beautiful illustrations, be sure to check out the picture book ‘The Strongest Man in the World: Louis Cyr,” written & illustrated by Nicolas Debon. Canadian Louis Cyr ((1863-1912), was “Champion Strongman of the World,” and a hero to the French speaking people of Canada.

  • Thomas Clark | June 26, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    I just don’t want UM-Flint (being from Flint) to use the name their club hockey team used “Hitmen.”

  • J-Dub | June 26, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”336998″]Here are some interesting photos I’ve found while killing time this morning:

    Yogi Berra as a Met, 1965
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Tom Seaver, Spring Training, 1976 (what’s the black armband for?)
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Pete Rose, 1965, wearing the vest and ice-cream cap
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Casey Stengal, circa 1912-17, wearing sunglasses in the outfield for the Brooklyn Dodgers
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Hank Aaron, 1969. Ricko will appreciate this one b/c it shows the Braves did wear the red-billed caps with their home pins in ’69.
    http://www.flickr.co...
    Black armband (I believe) is for Casey, who passed away at the tail end of the 75 season

  • dkb | June 26, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    I wonder with many of the “apostrophe catastrophes” if you just have people (inept people, mind you) using design software that out-automatically changes what should be an apostrophe into a single quotation mark. My word processor does this automatically, so if I want a real apostrophe, I have to trick it into doing right thing. One might say that they are not paying attention to detail, but I say that they don’t know the detail. This in no way accounts for Baltimore’s “O’s” hats.

  • JTH | June 26, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”337046″][quote comment=”337001″]I wonder if the two cream-colored ones are leftovers from the 2005 throwback game that Eriq pointed out in comment #24-25.[/quote]I find it funny to imagine that Jungle Jim might’ve scored himself an authentic game-worn Timo Perez jersey.[/quote]
    Hold on. You may be on to something here.

    Who were the two guys with white jerseys on? Billy Pierce and Luis Aparicio. Both of their numbers are retired, so therefore nobody playing in that 2005 game was wearing #11 or #19. It’s entirely possible that Rivera was given Timo Perez’s jersey from that game. And Jim Landis (he’s the one standing to Rivera’s right) could be wearing Willie Harris’ #1 jersey from that game as well.

  • mike 2 | June 26, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”337036″][quote comment=”337034″][quote comment=”337032″][quote comment=”336991″][quote comment=”336970″]The AHL Heat had a golden opportunity to use the old Atlanta Flames “A”…above the Iowa Chops but below the Ice Hogs….terrible logo[/quote]

    Its a great idea but it was never going to happen – they weren’t going to brand a team in a Vancouver suburb with logos or uniforms that look like the Calgary parent club. If the team had been anywhere else starting with an A, that would have been absolutely perfect.[/quote]

    Except they did. The Heat are wearing the exact same jerseys and colours with two minor exceptions: the flag is a BC flag instead of an Alberta flag for obvious reasons, and the accent colour of yellow has been changed to gray.

    I went over it on my blog yesterday.[/quote]

    My bad – I’d only seen the logo, not the uniforms. I’m surprised at how similar they look to the flames.[/quote]

    No worries, Mike. I think the Flames are retarded for not using the Atlanta logo for Abbotsford. The Heat logo looks like it could be for anything – a soft drink, motorcross, NASCAR… literally anything.[/quote]

    My personal prediction – within a couple of years the Flames and Canucks will swap farm teams. It makes too much sense for the Canucks to have a farm team in their own suburbs.

  • scott | June 26, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”337025″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Regarding the 1999 blue sleeves… not a chance.[/quote]

    And yet Starting Lineup produced a figurine of Kevin Brown, and perhaps others, in that non-existent uniform:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Weird.

  • Ryan | June 26, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    Ryan, that link isn’t getting shown (for some obvious reasons)

  • Ricko | June 26, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”337029″][quote comment=”337015″][quote comment=”337014″][quote comment=”337010″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    See this issue, top right photo, thumbnail p. 23.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    and Charley Neal, 1959 World Series.
    http://images.google...

    Sorry. With all the talk of the ’59 White Sox, I thought that said “1959” and you were wondering about piping on the Dodger roads that year.

    Have no idea about those sleeveless things from ’99.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    OK, with all this talk about the 1959 jerseys, just how off-white were they at the time? Obviously, when you look at Nellie Fox’s jersey, it’s pretty far from white — but it’s 50 years old. Did it start out white (or pretty close to white) and the aging process yellowed it?

    I know this could have a lot to do with the photogaphy, the way it was developed, scanned, etc, but looking at this vintage picture of Fox, the jersey does look a bit dirty, but otherwise pretty white (it seems to be about the same color as the cap logo — or were those more beige than white back then as well?).[/quote]

    By 1959, very few white jerseys were cream by design. They started out as white as they could be manufactured, but still were far from the white than later would be achieved in doubleknit. The only unis I recall seeing that appeared to be a sort of “vanilla” on purpose were the NY Giants of the mid-50s. First realized it when I saw Millers (Giants AAA affililate at the time) in person. Was easy to see they weren’t even as white as Little League unis of the day. They definitely had a “cream” cast to them. In person the difference was obvious because the players white sanis looked SO white by comparison.

    As they aged, though, the color did become yellowed.

    There is an SI cover from ’59 or ’60 that’s a team photo of the White Sox. Not difficult to see thir home pins are intended to be white…or as close as technology of that era could get to it.

    Also reference the Topps 1960 set. A lot of White Sox cards are in the home unis. Definitely not cream…and least not on purpose. Search Nellie Fox and Barry Latman, just a couple I recall as being nice shots of the uni.

    —Ricko

    aw, heck, I just went ahead and did it.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • zac p | June 26, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    fyi college football live just ran their top 5 college football unis

    5. Houston
    4. North Carolina
    3. Iowa
    2. LSU
    1. USC

  • jon | June 26, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”337044″]Haven’t had time to wade through it all yet, but EA Sports’ NCAA Football 2010 has a pretty extensive set of uniform pictures up now. Usually a few nuggets about uni changes in there. My apologies if somebody has already posted a link:

    http://ncaafootball....

    thanks for the post! ive been looking for something like this for a while. im disappointed tho because it does not include pitt being in nike garb. guess the design (if the uniforms are actually being changed) hasnt been released even to ea sports yet. im really hopin the comment on the pitt board that the switch becomes official july 1 is accurate so that next week ill know what they look like.

  • Jonathan | June 26, 2009 at 4:30 pm |

    This may be a silly question… but how do most of you get your screen grabs?

  • The Great | June 26, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”337030″][quote comment=”337025″][quote comment=”336985″]Skimming through the uniform database . . .

    does anyone have photographic confirmation that the Dodgers wore these road unis in 1999?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Or these road unis in 1971?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Regarding the 1999 blue sleeves… not a chance.[/quote]

    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don’t remember those unis at all.[/quote]

    Not on the Dodgers website either

    http://losangeles.do...

  • Teebz | June 26, 2009 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”337060″]This may be a silly question…

    but how do most of you get your screen grabs?[/quote]

    ZAPGRAB. Anything that’s free is worth the price.

  • Teebz | June 26, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”337062″][quote comment=”337060″]This may be a silly question…

    but how do most of you get your screen grabs?[/quote]

    ZAPGRAB. Anything that’s free is worth the price.[/quote]

    I should add that this only works on a computer. It will be extremely had to load this application onto a TV. LOL

  • Mike Engle | June 26, 2009 at 4:51 pm |

    Looks like Blake Griffin has his #32 picked and ready to go for his Clippers debut. (Obviously, it’s a reversal of his college #23. #23 is Marcus Camby’s number.)
    And speaking of the draft, this picture (focus on the novelty balls) shows how cool VAL could look as basketball NOB’s. There’s so little room on basketball jerseys, it’s a wonder no team does so at this time.

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”337058″]fyi college football live just ran their top 5 college football unis

    5. Houston
    4. North Carolina
    3. Iowa
    2. LSU
    1. USC[/quote]

    Is there a link? Based on memory those are solid choices. Where’s Michigan?

  • LI Phil | June 26, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”337060″]This may be a silly question…

    but how do most of you get your screen grabs?[/quote]

    don’t know if this was posed to me, but the grabs from yesterday’s white sox game were achieved by going to mlb dot com, searching for the video, then pausing it…from there i did (in windows) ctrl plus prnt scrn (giving me the grab)…i right clicked to copy it…

    from there i pasted the whole thing into “paint” and then cut out the image i wanted, saving that into my “my pictures folder”…from there i flickr’ed it

    and VOILA…screen grab

  • Mike Engle | June 26, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    And more number news: looks like Shaq’s going college with #33.
    http://sportsillustr...

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”337064″]Looks like Blake Griffin has his #32 picked and ready to go for his Clippers debut. (Obviously, it’s a reversal of his college #23. #23 is Marcus Camby’s number.)
    .[/quote]

    Given the Clippers’ history, Blake just has to wait for Marcus to blow out an ACL, then #23 will be all his. Better yet, he should have listened to Bill Simmons and just ran for the border.

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”337067″]And more number news: looks like Shaq’s going college with #33.
    http://sportsillustr...

    Apparently SI forgot about the #34 during the Laker years…

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”337065″]Where’s Michigan?[/quote]North of Ohio and Indiana, east of Ontario, northeast of Wisconsin….

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”337070″][quote comment=”337065″]Where’s Michigan?[/quote]North of Ohio and Indiana, east of Ontario, northeast of Wisconsin….[/quote]

    West of Ontario. Otherwise, good one!

  • =bg= | June 26, 2009 at 5:19 pm |

    I use Windows Media Center, so cable comes thru on my PC- all I do is do Alt+Print Screen on it when the program is running..bam.

  • Matt Barden | June 26, 2009 at 5:24 pm |

    Dont’ believe shaq wore 32 in LA…. Yahoo sucks

    http://msn.foxsports...

  • Jason | June 26, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    Please tell me Central Michigan will not be wearing gold pants!!! NOOOOO!!!

    Does anyone have pictures of a uniform unveiling? I am curious to see what Central Michigan’s new white uniforms look like.

    On a related note, I was clicking through that NCAA 10 gallery and noticed CMU’s new Uniforms are not in the game and Oregon’s new Uni’s are missing as well. Anyone notice any other missing changes??

  • Martyn | June 26, 2009 at 6:06 pm |

    Looking for a little DIY help!!

    I’m hoping to recreate the jersey in the middle of this photo

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Does anyone know a place that I could buy a blank grey pinstriped jersey with neck piping?

    I’ve been chasing this jersey for 8 years, and have decided to try the DIY route. Any help would be very appreciated!!

    Blue Jays wore it in a Negro Leagues Tribute game at Shea Stadium in 2001.

  • LarenR | June 26, 2009 at 6:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”336984″]

    The Cavs’ website currently has a “Welcome to Cleveland Shaq” intro in which Shaq is wearing a photoshopped numberless jersey…
    http://www.nba.com/c...

    I still stick to my comment from yesterday that I’m guessing Shaq will wear #33 in Cleveland unless he throws a curveball and picks some off-the-wall number. Again, #34 is retired to Austin Carr, and as long as he’s still on the roster Joe Smith occupies #32. We’ll find out soon enough…[/quote]
    Now showing as #33.

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”337075″]Looking for a little DIY help!!

    I’m hoping to recreate the jersey in the middle of this photo

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Does anyone know a place that I could buy a blank grey pinstriped jersey with neck piping?

    I’ve been chasing this jersey for 8 years, and have decided to try the DIY route. Any help would be very appreciated!!

    Blue Jays wore it in a Negro Leagues Tribute game at Shea Stadium in 2001.[/quote]

    Where do you live? If you’re anywhere in the PA/OH/WV/VA area, try your local Gabriel Brothers store. Not only can you find blank jerseys there sometimes, you can get the occasional “wrong champion” shirt that’s supposed to be shipped to the Third World (example: World Champion Arizona Cardinals). Just inspect every square inch for holes or other anomalies (hey, ya get what ya pay for…).

    While you’re at it, DIY that red Blue Jays jersey as well. Not my first choice, but it looks SO much better than the black jerseys!

  • Paul Lukas | June 26, 2009 at 7:14 pm |

    With a Mac, you can get a shot of your full screen via Command-Shift-3. And if you use Command-Shift-4, you can draw a box and get a screen shot of just the boxed area.

  • Adam | June 26, 2009 at 8:16 pm |

    How many major-leaguers still wear flip-up sunglasses?

    I realized that I hadn’t noticed any recently and sent this question directly to Paul, who said he noticed David Wright wearing them yesterday. Does anyone know of any others?

    I always see players with regular sunglasses perched above the bill of the cap, which just seems inconvenient.

  • Michael Emody | June 26, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    Re: yesterday’s Sox game – Ricko’s right. Home uniforms are supposed to be WHITE. If you put a cream tint in them, you’ve added a correct feature to the polyester, and made them appear more like the flannels. If they could have made or kept the flannels the same kind of white we enjoy – season-long – with today’s petroleum based wonder fabrics, they would have. White polyester is fine. And, if yesterday’s jerseys were tinted cream, they wouldn’t have matched regular, pin-striped pants they had on.
    I wish the budget hadn’t stopped at the belt, or that they’d saved the stirrups they had in 05.
    As far as the font- the Sox had thicker numbers thru 58. Most of the pic’s I’ve found show thinner numbers in 59, like the 05 throwbacks. However, if you look at the 59 team pic, there’s a few thick tv numbers mixed among the team.
    I just liked seeing the thicker, mid 50’s variation. Was the font totally correct? Stems, flags, the weird -what’s the technical term- ass(?) on the 5’s. I don’t know. When my mind is altered in the proper manor, I’ll do the comparison. I’m just trying not to be too critical, and enjoy.

  • Jim BC | June 26, 2009 at 9:01 pm |

    Tavares goes #1 to the Isles – brutal team but love the jersey!

  • Kek | June 26, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    Was out and about and listening to the Pirates’ game on the radio and the broadcast crew posed this question: why are so many team nicknames in KC related to royalty (Royals, Monarchs, Kings)?

    I didn’t get a chance to hear if they came up with an answer.

  • anotherguy | June 26, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”337071″]West of Ontario. Otherwise, good one![/quote]Oooh, I’ve seen enough people hold up their hand, point to a place on their palm and say “I’m from here…” I should have gotten west vs. east. I feel badly. :-)

  • PuckyTheWhale | June 26, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    “As a Michigan grad and lifelong fan, the helmets are making me dry-heave over here. This is why you don’t mess with the classics.”

    Dude, are you insane? Do you REALLY want UMich-Flint to wear the EXACT same helmets as Michigan? Michigan’s football team has been around FOR YEARS wearing their iconic helmets, and you want a new CLUB team from a LESSER SATELLITE UMich school to look exactly like the powerful and legendary Wolverines?!??!?! Give me a break!

    I think UMich-Flint’s helmets are AWESOME, and a great way to pay tribute and give a new twist to the classic UMich helmets. Plus, they are giving themselves their own recognizable identity at the same time, helping separate themselves from UMich.

  • JimV19 | June 26, 2009 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”337082″]Was out and about and listening to the Pirates’ game on the radio and the broadcast crew posed this question: why are so many team nicknames in KC related to royalty (Royals, Monarchs, Kings)?

    I didn’t get a chance to hear if they came up with an answer.[/quote]

    Don’t forget the Chiefs.

    By the way, how does the new radio guy compare to Lanny? I know that’s not fair, but I haven’t heard him yet (I could barely get KDKA, but now that they don’t carry the Bucs I got nothin’).

  • amanda | June 26, 2009 at 10:14 pm |

    Someone who won’t be wearing one of the new ManU shirts linked above is Cristiano Ronaldo, whose self-designated nickname and frequent online reference is “CR7,” based on his initials and his club (and international) shirt number. He’ll be announced as a Real Madrid player next Wednesday, but he’s going to have to change his moniker, since Reál-player-for-life Raúl currently has that number. Good thing he trademarked CR9 in January while still a Red Devil.

  • Hibbs | June 26, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”337082″]Was out and about and listening to the Pirates’ game on the radio and the broadcast crew posed this question: why are so many team nicknames in KC related to royalty (Royals, Monarchs, Kings)?

    I didn’t get a chance to hear if they came up with an answer.[/quote]

    They might want to consider Kansas City Napoleans. Just kidding.

  • DJ | June 26, 2009 at 10:44 pm |

    The Royals, IIRC, are named for the Royal Horseman’s Show. Probably an homage to the Monarchs, too.

  • rjcoy06 | June 26, 2009 at 11:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”337081″]Tavares goes #1 to the Isles – brutal team but love the jersey![/quote]

    I love those jerseys too. Just picked up a game worn in the style recently.

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

  • rjcoy06 | June 26, 2009 at 11:47 pm |

    I received an email from New Era Cap about these new Buffalo Bills player caps. Here is the link:

    http://www.neweracap...