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The Day After

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That’s Wolf Blitzer, resplendent repellant in his purple necktie yesterday. As I predicted, there were dozens of TV anchors and analysts who wore the accursed hue yesterday in a half-assed attempt to appear non-partisan (red + blue = purple, get it?). Reader Andrew Winn has compiled several examples here, Mike Rich has gathered a bunch more here (note the purple straw in the coffee cup), and I’ve gathered several other readers’ contributions here (I realize some of the colors don’t actually look purple, but that’s just lighting, witchcraft, etc.). Big thanks to everyone who helped document this appalling phenomenon, including Chris Howell, Dan Snider, Matt Benz, and John Okray.

For the record: I wore green stirrups yesterday, for good luck (I was really hoping to be exit-polled so I could list myself a part of the crucial emerald-socked demographic, but there were no exit pollsters to be found — rats). Also wore my late brother Henry’s high school ring, something I bring out only for Very Special Occasions (last time I wore it was when I attended Game 5 of the 2000 World Series). Henry, you’d be amazed by what happened yesterday — I’m still pretty damn amazed myself. Glad to have had you close to me as it took place.

New ESPN column today, and I think you’ll all find it pretty interesting — look here.

Signal Flare: Yo, Jim Macho, are you out there? If so, please get in touch. Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Speaking of red state vs. blue state, look at last night’s Buffalo/Miami University game — no white jerseys! … In addition, Buffalo wore “I Voted” decals, and WR Brett Hamlin had “B.A.W.B.” written on his neck bumper — anyone know what that was about? (Thanks to Brian Skokowski for the screen grab.) … The new Yankee Stadium sleeve patch will look like this. … Advertising in public spaces continues to encroach (with thanks to Nile Smith). … Doug Keklak reports that he’s gotten a new pooch. “Since she’s just a puppy, we don’t really want to spend money on one of those pet jerseys, since she just grow out of it,” he writes. “We feel the Terrible Towel is good enough for her.” … Two good finds by Mike Hersh: First, a site devoted to Seattle hockey, including some dynamite jerseys; and a site devoted to western hockey, with lots of cool jersey mock-ups. … Did you know there’s an under-20 World Cup? I didn’t, but Jeremy Brahm reports that they’ve just unveiled their 2009 logo. … Check this out: Tug McGraw wearing white shoes — and not in an All-Star Game (with thanks to Jared Wheeler). … Jeff Cook, who recently did that Phillies logo redesign, has now given a makeover to the Phils’ Liberty Bell logo. Plus he sent along pics of this amazing T-shirt (additional views here and here) and this button). … Many of you have probably seen this 1968 photo of Paul Brown with a bunch of Bengals prototype helmets (including one very similar to the design they started wearing in 1981 and still wear today). But Gary Streeting has come up with a much larger, clearer version of it. … Was Tim Tebow wearing a shout-out to someone named Phil? Nope — it was a Bible verse, Philippians 4:13, “I can do everything through him who gives me strength,” which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach (with thanks to Chris Salove). … Nice to see yesterday’s election was sponsored by Nike.

 

186 comments to The Day After

  • big matt | November 5, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal!

  • warren thompson | November 5, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    Shouldn’t that be Miami (Ohio) v. Buffalo in the
    “no white jerseys” game?

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    [quote]Was Tim Tebow wearing a shout-out to someone named Phil? Nope.[/quote]

    wait…what?

  • Kevin | November 5, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    Please update the post to MIAMI UNIVERSITY! As an alumni, I can’t let this be printed as “Ohio”, and I hate when people in proper publications refer to the school improperly as “Miami of Ohio”.

  • Cosmo | November 5, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Someone doesn’t read this site very often…

  • Adam | November 5, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    Paul, come one

    Ohio. Don’t insult us RedHawks by pairing us with that godforsaken hell hole of a school. The team in red is Miami University. A school that happens to be in Ohio but doesn’t have the name of the newly blue state anywhere in it’s name.

  • +JohnnyBoy- | November 5, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”298275″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Someone doesn’t read this site very often…[/quote]

    The “It’s fine the way it is” group meets two doors down. This is the “I can’t believe those goons didn’t think of this” group.

  • Brooks | November 5, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    I understand completely what this site is about, however there is nothing wrong with the current Phillies logo, please find another team to obsess over and leave the world champs alone. Allow myself and all of my fellow Phillie fans to enjoy the recent championship.

  • Beardface | November 5, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    To reiterate from last night…

    2 things…

    1. Virginia Tech is wearing all-maroon uniforms on Thursday night. New-style maroon tops plus new style maroon pants. Prepare for the worst

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  • Chris Mycoskie | November 5, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”298278″]I understand completely what this site is about, however there is nothing wrong with the current Phillies logo, please find another team to obsess over and leave the world champs alone. Allow myself and all of my fellow Phillie fans to enjoy the recent championship.[/quote]

    I guess I don’t see how looking at the logo could possibly take away from your enjoyment. The reason it is being looked at is because of their success recently and because it is one of those old-school teams that has been around forever and has some classic looks.

    I really don’t see any huge change in the logo anyway. If you saw it on a shirt and had no idea that it had been altered, and didn’t have one next to it for comparison, I think most folks would just pass it by.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 5, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”298276″]Paul, come one

    Ohio. Don’t insult us RedHawks by pairing us with that godforsaken hell hole of a school. The team in red is Miami University. A school that happens to be in Ohio but doesn’t have the name of the newly blue state anywhere in it’s name.[/quote]

    Suck it up, Redhawks fans. As long as “The U” has a better football tradition, then the “other” Miami will simply be referred to as Miami (Ohio). It’s not fair, but that’s how it is.

  • kev | November 5, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    Apparently Brett Hamlin is one “Bad Ass White Boy”

  • Steven | November 5, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    Brooks – If you read the site much, you would know that the Phillies re-design was done by a guy who is a huge fan of the team and was disgraced as what the wordmark has become. If you like the bubble-letter font better, more power to you, but it’s not all about trying to tear down the champs my friend…

    Also, Tebow has had that verse on his eye black all season, or at least he did against LSU and Miami.

  • DJ | November 5, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    In the UK, color is even more strongly identified with party (red for Labour, blue for Conservatives, yellow for the Liberal Democrats). On election coverage, BBC announcers wear gray or black.

  • marc | November 5, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    Doug, just want to congratulate you on the puppy (we will be getting two new puppies soon since our pup was hit by a drunk driver, long story short, the guy didn’t even stop) but seriously, this is the only dog that should be wearing anything associated with the NFL…

  • Justin | November 5, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”298277″][quote comment=”298275″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Someone doesn’t read this site very often…[/quote]

    The “It’s fine the way it is” group meets two doors down. This is the “I can’t believe those goons didn’t think of this” group.[/quote]

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  • pr9000 | November 5, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    Doug — if that’s a Goldendoodle (or any other sort of doodle) this is what you have to look forward to in a few short months …

  • Stephen | November 5, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]

    Wow, I think sometimes everyone needs to take a step back and realize that the vast majority of the banter on this site is purely sarcastic and should not at all be taken for face value…

  • Justin in AR | November 5, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”298291″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]

    Wow, I think sometimes everyone needs to take a step back and realize that the vast majority of the banter on this site is purely sarcastic and should not at all be taken for face value…[/quote]

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  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun

  • Kevin | November 5, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Didn’t get a screen grab (cause I don’t have the technology) but I saw a unique helmet on one of the U of Miami kids. It looked like the new Revo Speed, but it had a traditional Schutt face mask attatched. Is that possible? I know for a fact it wasn’t the Ion, DNA, or XP. It looked like a custom job.

  • Duckstyle | November 5, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”298291″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]

    Wow, I think sometimes everyone needs to take a step back and realize that the vast majority of the banter on this site is purely sarcastic and should not at all be taken for face value…[/quote]

    Word. It’s a joke, and a fairly good one too. Lighten up people, I’ve heard priest tell jokes too.

    Finally a White Sox fan in the White House! Is it sick that I was scouring the Grant Park crowd for Obama of Dreams t-shirts? Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.

  • Juan Grande | November 5, 2008 at 9:38 am |

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    I’m not sure what is more distirbing… The giant Nike banners or the “vote here” sign in 4 different languages.

    On a lighter note, I’m really surprised that advertising on TSA stuff and overhead bins hadn’t already started. How long will it be before airports sell off naming rights? I can see it now… “The Bank of America TSA security gate is now open. The Oppenheimer Group would like to thank you for using the Oppenheimer Group O’Hare International Airport for all of your international buisness.”

  • Rob | November 5, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”298293″][quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”298287″]Doug, just want to congratulate you on the puppy (we will be getting two new puppies soon since our pup was hit by a drunk driver, long story short, the guy didn’t even stop) but seriously, this is the only dog that should be wearing anything associated with the NFL…[/quote]

    I’m sorry to hear about your dog!

    Kek, Minna will love you for that jersey.

    And my condolences for your soon to be-former-rug

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”298297″][quote comment=”298293″][quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.[/quote]

    Fixed

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”298299″][quote comment=”298297″][quote comment=”298293″][quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun
    Fixed

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    WTF, damn html…trying to strike out the church and state part and now i’m just lookin stupid, my bad

  • Namhob | November 5, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.

    But then again, we’ve become too soft with kids these days; it’s good to see some parents taking it back to their “roots”. Survival of the fittest indeed…

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”298297″][quote comment=”298293″][quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.[/quote]

    Loop holes…you gotta love em.

    Does the State pay the coach’s salary? Just out of curiousity.

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  • JF in DC | November 5, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    Not to pick nits, but the Bengals started wearing the tiger-stripes helmet in 1981, not 1980, as reported in today’s Ticker.

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  • Chris | November 5, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    Anyone found leaked photos of the new Nats road jersey?

  • J.R. | November 5, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    Isn’t the Phillies logo the Liberty Bell, and not the Liberty Head?

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”298306″]Anyone found leaked photos of the new Nats road jersey?[/quote]

    heh

    i’d stay tuned for paul’s column

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?

  • DP | November 5, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”298303″][quote comment=”298297″][quote comment=”298293″][quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.[/quote]

    Loop holes…you gotta love em.

    Does the State pay the coach’s salary? Just out of curiousity.[/quote]

    If it’s like how UGA does it, only a small portion. I know at UGA Richt’s base salary is $2.8 million. However, “only” about $275,000 technically comes from the state.

  • dm00n | November 5, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    There are other options besides purple.

    Green, gold tones, etc. would also work.

  • Justin in AR | November 5, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

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  • dm00n | November 5, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    I like that Bengals helmet with the two stripes running down each side. I’d be interested to see it in color.

    The CB one doesn’t do much for me. I would like to see the one with the tiger heads on the sides and front in color too, but mainly to see how bad it is.

  • War Damn Eagle | November 5, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    Braves made an offer for Japanese phenom Junichi Tazawa. While I’m excited at this news because I’m a Braves fan, I’m also excited b/c this guy knows how to wear the uniform. Check out his bitchin’ striped stirrups in this youtube video. Paul would love to own a pair of these stirrups.

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  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”298309″] can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    it’s one of them new york yankee pennant hats…we discussed it a few months ago…costs like $60

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

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  • Duckstyle | November 5, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    It was just about perfect weather. It was more the drive, I live about an hour and a half away in normal traffic. Considering the crowd it woulda been what, 3 or 4 before I got home? TV was good enough last night.

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    Sorry, folks. I knew that Mr. Lee was wearing a Yankees pennant cap. I worded that terribly. I didn’t mean to present it like it was an actual question.

    I was just trying to call attention to something that was actually Uni Watch-related that I happened to catch last night.

  • mike | November 5, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    “I can do everything through him who gives me strength,” which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach.

    …great stuff Paul. Made an already sunny day just a bit brighter.

  • Beats in Buffalo | November 5, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    The picture from the Buffalo/Miami of Ohio game makes the red Miami jerseys look a lot better than they did in person. At the game the jerseys had the look of a faded red and were a noticeably different color than the pants were.

    So now we have a new football predictor for the outcome of Presidential elections, if the University of Buffalo wears all blue and wins at home, on ESPN2, on election night and the opposing team is wearing all red, the Democrats will win. It’s totally logical like the other “if the Redskins win…” indicators.

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”298317″][quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    It was just about perfect weather. It was more the drive, I live about an hour and a half away in normal traffic. Considering the crowd it woulda been what, 3 or 4 before I got home? TV was good enough last night.[/quote]
    Man, this is like the worst comment I’ve ever posted here…

    I’m totally with you. I wasn’t trying to say that you should have come out. There was no way in hell that I was dragging my kids down there last night. And in normal Tuesday night traffic, I could probably make it down there in a half hour.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 5, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”298320″]The picture from the Buffalo/Miami of Ohio game makes the red Miami jerseys look a lot better than they did in person. At the game the jerseys had the look of a faded red and were a noticeably different color than the pants were.

    So now we have a new football predictor for the outcome of Presidential elections, if the University of Buffalo wears all blue and wins at home, on ESPN2, on election night and the opposing team is wearing all red, the Democrats will win. It’s totally logical like the other “if the Redskins win…” indicators.[/quote]

    My favorite is “If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody’s there to listen, does Ralph Nader make a sound?”

  • Tim | November 5, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    So happy I found this site first of all. I totally agree that the current Phillies logo is inept and have thought so since day 1. So, no copyright infringement — make up some shirts and sell ’em.

  • Chad | November 5, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    ok.. so this religion stuff is done now… great.. tebow, you find strength in the lord, good for you.. stand up guy.. Paul, it was a clever joke and no one is offended.. enough..

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”298310″][quote comment=”298303″][quote comment=”298297″][quote comment=”298293″][quote comment=”298290″]Seriously, with the Tebow thing. He’s a devout Christian, and a stand-up guy. I get that you might find it dumb to have “Phil 4:13” on his eye-black, but making fun of a Bible verse is just not cool.

    Not everyone who reads this forum holds your beliefs (or lack thereof). I know that many here don’t share mine, but I don’t come in here spouting off insults and inane jokes about their religious views.

    It’s pathetic.

    ~E~[/quote]

    How is poking fun at someone putting a bible verse on eye-black any different than making fun of basketball players putting election stuff on their shoes? Just because its religion its off-limits? If Tebow puts it out there in the public forum then he should be prepared for people to say something about it. People make fun of everyone’s beliefs on this site, sports teams, favorite colors, political beliefs and even religion because players put it out there on their uniforms. If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.[/quote]

    Loop holes…you gotta love em.

    Does the State pay the coach’s salary? Just out of curiousity.[/quote]

    If it’s like how UGA does it, only a small portion. I know at UGA Richt’s base salary is $2.8 million. However, “only” about $275,000 technically comes from the state.[/quote]

    There is huge punlic outcry in the State of NJ that Greg Schiano is the states’ highest paid employee!

  • jude | November 5, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    Thanks for the shout out in the column today, Paul. I was happy to take a couple of pictures Tuesday for the good of the site.

    – jude (andrewwinn)

  • union jack | November 5, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”298286″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess[/quote]

    Don’t be rediculous. According to all the pictures the nuns showed us, Jesus was a scrawny white guy with long hair and off-the-wall ideas… definitely a place-kicker. Not the conditioning coach type.

    Maybe Peter; I think he was an O-lineman.

  • peter | November 5, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    Its a NEW ERA NY YANKEES pennant custom fitted…they were out last summer…

  • Justin | November 5, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    something about this just doesnt seem right…

    http://www.freep.com...

  • Chad | November 5, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”298329″]something about this just doesnt seem right…

    http://www.freep.com...

    yep, it’s the #1

  • Chad | November 5, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    thank god that this blue vs red match had nothing to do with last night’s results http://www.dailymail...

  • jmb | November 5, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    That gym featured in the NYT picture is my polling place. I had a couple hours to tell my girlfriend about logo creep yesterday morning.

  • Duckstyle | November 5, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”298321″][quote comment=”298317″][quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    It was just about perfect weather. It was more the drive, I live about an hour and a half away in normal traffic. Considering the crowd it woulda been what, 3 or 4 before I got home? TV was good enough last night.[/quote]
    Man, this is like the worst comment I’ve ever posted here…

    I’m totally with you. I wasn’t trying to say that you should have come out. There was no way in hell that I was dragging my kids down there last night. And in normal Tuesday night traffic, I could probably make it down there in a half hour.[/quote]

    Sorry, I should have specified that I was responding to multiple comments, all of which I figured were pretty tongue in cheek.

  • Namhob | November 5, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”298316″][quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    old news…a 60$ New Era cap:

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    BTW, check out THIS Elmer Fudd:

    http://www.lids.com/...
    The Red Sox have their Elmer Fudd up on Lids
    http://lf.hatworld.c...

  • BuckyBen | November 5, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    Does anyone have any new links to photo galleries of the Shea and Yankee Stadium demolition projects? I havent seen any of the progess in the last few weeks. Thanks!

  • Duckstyle | November 5, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    I was just looking at the Chicago Fire logo this morning and almost got sea-sick. Do the red lines create an optical illusion of movement to anyone else, or did I just have too much coffee this morning?

    http://upload.wikime...

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote]Man, this is like the worst comment I’ve ever posted here…[/quote]

    stop selling yourself short, jth…you’ve made many ;)

  • LarenR | November 5, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”298336″]I was just looking at the Chicago Fire logo this morning and almost got sea-sick. Do the red lines create an optical illusion of movement to anyone else, or did I just have too much coffee this morning?

    http://upload.wikime...
    Ummm, I’m going with “too much coffee.”

  • mdunner28 | November 5, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”298327″][quote comment=”298286″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess[/quote]

    Don’t be rediculous. According to all the pictures the nuns showed us, Jesus was a scrawny white guy with long hair and off-the-wall ideas… definitely a place-kicker. Not the conditioning coach type.

    Maybe Peter; I think he was an O-lineman.[/quote]

    Not a very good one. He definitely let Jesus take the sack.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 5, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”298336″]I was just looking at the Chicago Fire logo this morning and almost got sea-sick. Do the red lines create an optical illusion of movement to anyone else, or did I just have too much coffee this morning?

    http://upload.wikime...

    Toooooo much coffee and maybe some LSD in the mix.

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.

  • shadoquad | November 5, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”298336″]I was just looking at the Chicago Fire logo this morning and almost got sea-sick. Do the red lines create an optical illusion of movement to anyone else, or did I just have too much coffee this morning?

    http://upload.wikime...

    I think the red on navy creates that illusion if you move your eyes slightly while looking at them, but it is possible that I too have partaken in too much java this morn.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 5, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    Heeeereee we go again with the purple bashing. Well believe it or not PURPLE (I like seeing some of you shutter when I say it) has become a fashionable color of the season.

    Somebody got alarmed when they noticed an EFFIN’ purple straw in somebodies mug?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

    I don’t see why people get so damn worked up over purple to begin with…but then again I guess you’re entitled to your opinion.

  • Jason | November 5, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”298339″][quote comment=”298327″][quote comment=”298286″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess[/quote]

    Don’t be rediculous. According to all the pictures the nuns showed us, Jesus was a scrawny white guy with long hair and off-the-wall ideas… definitely a place-kicker. Not the conditioning coach type.

    Maybe Peter; I think he was an O-lineman.[/quote]

    Not a very good one. He definitely let Jesus take the sack.[/quote]

    Best. Comment. Ever. HUH-LARRY-US

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 5, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”298341″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.[/quote]

    OHHHH but the logos are VERY MUCH part of the identity of a team as the uniform is.

    But I do agree that the Phillies logo update is VERY minor. If it’s not a radical change let’s not waste our time with it.

    Like lets get rid of this…

    http://www.ysacl.on....

    and go back to this VASTLY SUPERIOR LOGO!

    http://www.kineticid...

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    http://blog.pennlive...

    Compare the script on the Jersey for the Phils to the so-called redesign…the differences are very small if even truly noticable (I think re alignment of fonts does not constitute something “Original”) Sure the bubble letters with the far underline is kinda clunky…but aside from being on the sleeve patch, its pretty bearable. If the guy really wanted to be original why not come up with a new font…ala 70’s & 80’s Phillies, instead of using MS Paint to update the current logo.

  • Brian | November 5, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    I want to know more about this Miami/Buffalo game. How did they get NCAA permission to do that? Why do the powers that be allow that but raise a huge stink when UCLA and USC try to do the same thing?

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”298345″][quote comment=”298341″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.[/quote]

    OHHHH but the logos are VERY MUCH part of the identity of a team as the uniform is.

    But I do agree that the Phillies logo update is VERY minor. If it’s not a radical change let’s not waste our time with it.

    Like lets get rid of this…

    http://www.ysacl.on....

    and go back to this VASTLY SUPERIOR LOGO!

    http://www.kineticid...

    Kudos, and yes the original logo for the Jays was FAR FAR Superior.

  • Duckstyle | November 5, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”298340″][quote comment=”298336″]I was just looking at the Chicago Fire logo this morning and almost got sea-sick. Do the red lines create an optical illusion of movement to anyone else, or did I just have too much coffee this morning?

    http://upload.wikime...

    Toooooo much coffee and maybe some LSD in the mix.[/quote]

    Oops, must have used the “special” sugar cubes by mistake.

  • Eriq Jaffe | November 5, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”298346″]http://blog.pennlive.com/lvsports/2007/09/phillies%20howard.JPG

    Compare the script on the Jersey for the Phils to the so-called redesign…the differences are very small if even truly noticable (I think re alignment of fonts does not constitute something “Original”) Sure the bubble letters with the far underline is kinda clunky…but aside from being on the sleeve patch, its pretty bearable. If the guy really wanted to be original why not come up with a new font…ala 70’s & 80’s Phillies, instead of using MS Paint to update the current logo.[/quote]

    I don’t think the goal was a total reworking of the logo. I even think that was mentioned in the ticker. More of a revision of the current logo.

    In the end, why are people so worked up about it. It was just an idea that one person had.

    /shrug

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    lets styx to unis

  • Mark in Cincy | November 5, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”298347″]I want to know more about this Miami/Buffalo game. How did they get NCAA permission to do that? Why do the powers that be allow that but raise a huge stink when UCLA and USC try to do the same thing?[/quote]
    Perhaps because it was election night and there was irony in the red vs. blue thing … or that it was just Miami OF OHIO (had to do it) vs. Buffalo and the solid vs. solid may have gone unnoticed? just thinking out loud, which is a dangerous thing.

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”298337″][quote]Man, this is like the worst comment I’ve ever posted here…[/quote]

    stop selling yourself short, jth…you’ve made many ;)[/quote]
    I couldn’t agree more. Check out this abomination.

    Suggesting that, even in jest, I’m lucky I didn’t get banned.

  • Rob Ullman | November 5, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”298279″] I stumbled across this website yesterday that sells absolutely gorgeous, and I mean gorgeous prints for MLB. http://www.sportspro...

    Those are fantastic! Makes me wish the Pirates had anything poster-worthy about them!

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”298323″]So happy I found this site first of all. I totally agree that the current Phillies logo is inept and have thought so since day 1. So, no copyright infringement — make up some shirts and sell ’em.[/quote]

    Really?? Do you also think these Logos were “inept”?

    http://www.philadelp...

    http://static.flickr...

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”298351″][quote comment=”298346″]http://blog.pennlive.com/lvsports/2007/09/phillies%20howard.JPG

    Compare the script on the Jersey for the Phils to the so-called redesign…the differences are very small if even truly noticable (I think re alignment of fonts does not constitute something “Original”) Sure the bubble letters with the far underline is kinda clunky…but aside from being on the sleeve patch, its pretty bearable. If the guy really wanted to be original why not come up with a new font…ala 70’s & 80’s Phillies, instead of using MS Paint to update the current logo.[/quote]

    I don’t think the goal was a total reworking of the logo. I even think that was mentioned in the ticker. More of a revision of the current logo.

    In the end, why are people so worked up about it. It was just an idea that one person had.

    /shrug[/quote]

    Well if it was such a ho-hum idea then maybe Paul L. shouldn’t of given it top billing the first time and additional ink today. Just Sayin’ What now every bonehead that smoothes the edges off their favorite teams logo in Photoshop is now a graphic design genius. The criticism comes with the territory.

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”298345″][quote comment=”298341″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.[/quote]

    OHHHH but the logos are VERY MUCH part of the identity of a team as the uniform is.

    But I do agree that the Phillies logo update is VERY minor. If it’s not a radical change let’s not waste our time with it.

    Like lets get rid of this…

    http://www.ysacl.on....

    and go back to this VASTLY SUPERIOR LOGO!

    http://www.kineticid...

    Indeed, that older Blue Jays logo is beautiful. I like it anyway. Much more so than the current “modern” styled one. Bleh.

  • Paul Lukas | November 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    Today’s ESPN column is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • JAson | November 5, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”298308″][quote comment=”298306″]Anyone found leaked photos of the new Nats road jersey?[/quote]

    heh

    i’d stay tuned for paul’s column[/quote]

    I just found their new alternate DC cap…
    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

  • chance | November 5, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”298356″][quote comment=”298323″]So happy I found this site first of all. I totally agree that the current Phillies logo is inept and have thought so since day 1. So, no copyright infringement — make up some shirts and sell ’em.[/quote]

    Really?? Do you also think these Logos were “inept”?

    http://www.philadelp...

    http://static.flickr...
    Both of those are vastly superior to the current script, largely in the way the designer suggested with his update.

    You’re making his case for him.

  • KT | November 5, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]

    Well, He does have a gym. I’ve seen t-shirts for it.

  • KT | November 5, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”298278″]I understand completely what this site is about, however there is nothing wrong with the current Phillies logo, please find another team to obsess over and leave the world champs alone. Allow myself and all of my fellow Phillie fans to enjoy the recent championship.[/quote]

    You can’t enjoy the championship if someone says something about your logo on a blog in a small corner of the interwebs?

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”298357″][quote comment=”298351″][quote comment=”298346″]http://blog.pennlive.com/lvsports/2007/09/phillies%20howard.JPG

    Compare the script on the Jersey for the Phils to the so-called redesign…the differences are very small if even truly noticable (I think re alignment of fonts does not constitute something “Original”) Sure the bubble letters with the far underline is kinda clunky…but aside from being on the sleeve patch, its pretty bearable. If the guy really wanted to be original why not come up with a new font…ala 70’s & 80’s Phillies, instead of using MS Paint to update the current logo.[/quote]

    I don’t think the goal was a total reworking of the logo. I even think that was mentioned in the ticker. More of a revision of the current logo.

    In the end, why are people so worked up about it. It was just an idea that one person had.

    /shrug[/quote]

    Well if it was such a ho-hum idea then maybe Paul L. shouldn’t of given it top billing the first time and additional ink today. Just Sayin’ What now every bonehead that smoothes the edges off their favorite teams logo in Photoshop is now a graphic design genius. The criticism comes with the territory.[/quote]

    Wow, you sure are fired up about this. I think it was just because it was a reader submission and had to do with uniforms.

    Can’t quite figure out why you have taken so much offense to it, but I guess that is your right.

    I also don’t understand why you assume that the person that made the adjustments to the logo is a bonehead. Anyway, I think it looks almost identical to the second one you linked, anyway.

  • KT | November 5, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”298297″][quote]If you really want to get technical, U F is a state funded school and Tebow shouldn’t be allowed to put religious verses on his state paid for jersey, you know, separation of church and state…there you go, everyone have fun[/quote]

    Actually, the University of Florida Athletic Association is a private entity run independent of the state funded school.[/quote]

    What he said. UAA is a whole ‘nother entity.

    Thinking about this the other day, though – when I was in school there, the teams all wore orange. When Spurrier came in, he changed the football unis to blue and now the primary color of most of UF’s sports teams is blue. I like blue, don’t get me wrong, but the orange (which is a different orange than Tennessee’s orange) was colorful (natch) and fairly unique and good-looking, I thought.

    I keep waiting for the day that Urban has them come out and warm up in blue and then go in and come back out in orange for a big game. Charlie Pell did that in 1979 and started the orange movement.

  • Lomion | November 5, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    Excellent ESPN article, way to not beat around the bush.

  • LarenR | November 5, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”298359″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...
    Holy crap! One simple question and the whole debate is resolved. Nice work Paul. More power to Jerry Dior.

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”298361″][quote comment=”298356″][quote comment=”298323″]So happy I found this site first of all. I totally agree that the current Phillies logo is inept and have thought so since day 1. So, no copyright infringement — make up some shirts and sell ’em.[/quote]

    Really?? Do you also think these Logos were “inept”?

    http://www.philadelp...

    http://static.flickr...
    Both of those are vastly superior to the current script, largely in the way the designer suggested with his update.

    You’re making his case for him.[/quote]

    I disagree see this link of Ryan Howard…the script font is even tighter and thinner than the pic I posted of Robin Roberts. My point is that there is not a huge difference from the old school Phillies scripts of years past (Save the 70s 80s “P”) and the new Script found on their Jerseys. All the update did was remove the underline and thin out the (agreeabley thicker) letters from the sleeve patch logo. The Jerseys do not share the same bubbley logo as the patch…particularly in the double L’s.

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    Chance:

    Heres the link:

    http://blog.pennlive...

  • Hott Rodd | November 5, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    The Washington Redskins have announced that the late Sean Taylor will be added to the team’s Ring of Fame prior to the November 30, 2008 home game against the Giants.

    woooo! more #21!!!

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    WSC:

    I did not say the guy was a bonehead…I probably implied it. But anyway, the point is there are tons of MLB logos that one could update (even if not an improvement) heck, even the Phillies…I did not see an update in his design. I’m worked up just to the extent that some posters commented that it was such an improvement over the “enept” old design…its the same damn thing!

  • Kenny | November 5, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.

    But then again, we’ve become too soft with kids these days; it’s good to see some parents taking it back to their “roots”. Survival of the fittest indeed…[/quote]

    Actually it was probably still in the 50’s most of the night in Chicago…unseasonably warm one might say

    and apparently we’ve decided to tell people how to raise their kids too…for shame

  • gppittjk | November 5, 2008 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”298360″][quote comment=”298308″][quote comment=”298306″]Anyone found leaked photos of the new Nats road jersey?[/quote]

    heh

    i’d stay tuned for paul’s column[/quote]

    I just found their new alternate DC cap…

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    if that is really what theyre gonna wear then i applaud them. say what you want about the league-wide gimmick earlier this year, those hats are pretty cool-looking. and they do match the nats’ color scheme. of course i like the curly ‘w’ more, but i can tell you from living just outside the city my whole life (well, when im not at school) that nobody calls it washington – its d.c. im excited to see the alternate jersey that matches it…

  • Glenn Gorman | November 5, 2008 at 12:29 pm |

    Hello Paul. Tug McGraw wearing white shoes – this is from 1975, when the Phillies wore white shoes the entire season.

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    great article PL…

    did anyone else do a total double take at this shot and think he resembles a fairly famous golfer of today?

  • Kenny | November 5, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”298317″][quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    It was just about perfect weather. It was more the drive, I live about an hour and a half away in normal traffic. Considering the crowd it woulda been what, 3 or 4 before I got home? TV was good enough last night.[/quote]

    hour and a half huh? what’s that Dekalb? btw, what’s normal traffic around here?

  • gppittjk | November 5, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    and i hate to ask but does anyone remember if there were dates set for the nats and o’s to unveil their new unis? i dont really remember what day they were posted and dont really want to search. so anyone remember off-hand?

  • JAson | November 5, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”298378″]and i hate to ask but does anyone remember if there were dates set for the nats and o’s to unveil their new unis? i dont really remember what day they were posted and dont really want to search. so anyone remember off-hand?[/quote]

    Nats are scheduled for tomorrow. O’s for the 12th.

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    “JD: No. I don’t want any money, I don’t want any royalties or anything like that. I just want recognition. I would like to get maybe a season ticket for the Mets for my son. And if they want to give me a season ticket for the Yankees, I’ll take that.”

    From Paul’s article…does anyone else think that is about one of the best quotes ever? The guy sounds like a class act. Come on MLB, give this guy a plaque. That attitude could teach the current $20 mil a season players a thing or two, if you ask me. :)

  • Carl | November 5, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”298316″][quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    old news…a 60$ New Era cap:

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    BTW, check out THIS Elmer Fudd:

    http://www.lids.com/...

    …thanks for correcting me from last night’s post. That is, in fact, Elmer Fudd. Although there exists a strong argument that it’s actually Max Goldberg – http://www.impawards...

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”298381″]”JD: No. I don’t want any money, I don’t want any royalties or anything like that. I just want recognition. I would like to get maybe a season ticket for the Mets for my son. And if they want to give me a season ticket for the Yankees, I’ll take that.”

    From Paul’s article…does anyone else think that is about one of the best quotes ever? The guy sounds like a class act. Come on MLB, give this guy a plaque. That attitude could teach the current $20 mil a season players a thing or two, if you ask me. :)[/quote]

    The reason they don’t give him a plauqe or tix or a used bubble gum wrapper is because it has not been proven to MLB that he is the sole designer. You, Me, Paul, may all believe it was his work, but without MLB on the same page of sheet music its a moot point — collegues vouching or not.

  • Michael Emody | November 5, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”298273″][quote]Was Tim Tebow wearing a shout-out to someone named Phil? Nope.[/quote]

    I think it’s a 2000 Year Old man reference: “Oh, Phil… please don’t tear off my head!”

  • Tom V | November 5, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    Uh, last I saw Obama was a Philidelphia/Tampa Bay fan.

  • peter | November 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”298376″]great article PL…

    did anyone else do a total double take at this shot and think he resembles a fairly famous golfer of today?[/quote]

    That;s a big MLB logo on his front

  • Tim D | November 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”298296″]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/11/04/us/subwithstroke2.jpg

    I’m not sure what is more distirbing… The giant Nike banners or the “vote here” sign in 4 different languages.

    On a lighter note, I’m really surprised that advertising on TSA stuff and overhead bins hadn’t already started. How long will it be before airports sell off naming rights? I can see it now… “The Bank of America TSA security gate is now open. The Oppenheimer Group would like to thank you for using the Oppenheimer Group O’Hare International Airport for all of your international buisness.”[/quote]

    Could be even worse..” please raise all Viva Viagra tray tables and close all Depends over head compartments for landing”

  • Paul Lukas | November 5, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”298381″]”JD: No. I don’t want any money, I don’t want any royalties or anything like that. I just want recognition. I would like to get maybe a season ticket for the Mets for my son. And if they want to give me a season ticket for the Yankees, I’ll take that.”

    From Paul’s article…does anyone else think that is about one of the best quotes ever? The guy sounds like a class act. Come on MLB, give this guy a plaque. That attitude could teach the current $20 mil a season players a thing or two, if you ask me. :)[/quote]

    Whether he gets a plaque or a season ticket or just a handshake, I can say this: He’s one of the nicest, most forthcoming, most generous-spirited people I’ve ever interviewed. Really great guy. James Sherman is an interesting guy, too. This story was fascinating to pursue, on several different levels.

  • gppittjk | November 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”298379″][quote comment=”298378″]and i hate to ask but does anyone remember if there were dates set for the nats and o’s to unveil their new unis? i dont really remember what day they were posted and dont really want to search. so anyone remember off-hand?[/quote]

    Nats are scheduled for tomorrow. O’s for the 12th.[/quote]

    thanks man i appreciate it. knew someone could help me out. im psyched to see all the changes!

  • MPowers1634 | November 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”298362″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]

    Well, He does have a gym. I’ve seen t-shirts for it.[/quote]

    Very Clever!!!
    http://www.vchristia...

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”298385″][quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    Uh, last I saw Obama was a Philidelphia/Tampa Bay fan.[/quote]

    He’s a Sox fan, has been as long as he has been on the South side of Chicago. What? all of a sudden its “lets make fun of politicians who congratulate their constituants sports teams?” This was a weak point man, where were you when Palin was dropping the puck for the Flyers?

  • Justin in AR | November 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    I’m still a little shocked that Mr. Dior did the original submission in magic marker of all things.
    And I’d like to see Mr. Sherman’s design, too. I think it would be neat to compare the two together.

  • ALK | November 5, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach

    Funny – great entry today Paul.

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    i think the [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] tags are broken again

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”298383″][quote comment=”298381″]”JD: No. I don’t want any money, I don’t want any royalties or anything like that. I just want recognition. I would like to get maybe a season ticket for the Mets for my son. And if they want to give me a season ticket for the Yankees, I’ll take that.”

    From Paul’s article…does anyone else think that is about one of the best quotes ever? The guy sounds like a class act. Come on MLB, give this guy a plaque. That attitude could teach the current $20 mil a season players a thing or two, if you ask me. :)[/quote]

    The reason they don’t give him a plauqe or tix or a used bubble gum wrapper is because it has not been proven to MLB that he is the sole designer. You, Me, Paul, may all believe it was his work, but without MLB on the same page of sheet music its a moot point — collegues vouching or not.[/quote]

    Sheesh man, just sheesh.

    I have a feeling that he hit it right on the head, they think he will be after some sort of compensation for it. Its probably hard for them to believe that he isn’t when their business is paying people millions to play a game that they would likely play for free.

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”298394″]i think the [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] tags are broken again[/quote]

    [sarcasm]have been all day it seems[/sarcasm]

  • Joe D | November 5, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    http://www.tampabay....

    Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but at the bottom of this article it says Lightning goalie Mike Smith will be wearing a different mask each month of the season. He already had the Saw mask promoting his owner’s new movie and this month he’s wearing a Veterans Day mask. Anyone have a pic of his new mask?

  • John | November 5, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”298339″][quote comment=”298327″][quote comment=”298286″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess[/quote]

    Don’t be rediculous. According to all the pictures the nuns showed us, Jesus was a scrawny white guy with long hair and off-the-wall ideas… definitely a place-kicker. Not the conditioning coach type.

    Maybe Peter; I think he was an O-lineman.[/quote]

    Not a very good one. He definitely let Jesus take the sack.[/quote]

    brilliant.
    But for the record, and this is my biggest pet peeve, Jesus was not white.

    Also check out this amazing play by USC in a high school game:
    http://sports.todays...

  • Oscar | November 5, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”298391″][quote comment=”298385″][quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    Uh, last I saw Obama was a Philidelphia/Tampa Bay fan.[/quote]

    He’s a Sox fan, has been as long as he has been on the South side of Chicago. What? all of a sudden its “lets make fun of politicians who congratulate their constituants sports teams?” This was a weak point man, where were you when Palin was dropping the puck for the Flyers?[/quote]

    Have the MLB schedules been released yet? Any chance we could arrange a season-opening game in Chicago between the Sox and Orioles? The President could throw out the first pitch and the Orioles could wear their brand new “Baltimore” road jerseys (with the “O’s” caps, of course).

  • Original Jim | November 5, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    Paul, i have a correction for you on your ESPN column.

    The type underneath the logo here: http://www.betvega.c... is NOT Helvetica as you typed, but a modified version Franklin Gothic Condensed.

    Helvetica has a documentary. No such love for Frankling Gothic.

    Nitpicky maybe, but that’s why were here. :)

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”298398″]But for the record, and this is my biggest pet peeve, Jesus was not white.
    [/quote]

    indeed

  • fluxcap | November 5, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    And people complain because the new Yankee stadium tickets are supposed to be expensive!

  • Robert in Dallas | November 5, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”298352″][quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    That made me giggle.
    lets styx to unis[/quote]

  • Justin in AR | November 5, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”298399″][quote comment=”298391″][quote comment=”298385″][quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    Uh, last I saw Obama was a Philidelphia/Tampa Bay fan.[/quote]

    He’s a Sox fan, has been as long as he has been on the South side of Chicago. What? all of a sudden its “lets make fun of politicians who congratulate their constituants sports teams?” This was a weak point man, where were you when Palin was dropping the puck for the Flyers?[/quote]

    Have the MLB schedules been released yet? Any chance we could arrange a season-opening game in Chicago between the Sox and Orioles? The President could throw out the first pitch and the Orioles could wear their brand new “Baltimore” road jerseys (with the “O’s” caps, of course).[/quote]

    They’ve been released already. White Sox open up at the Cell on April 6 against the Royals.

  • Blackwater Park | November 5, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    someone needs a nap

  • Roger Faso | November 5, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”298388″][quote comment=”298381″]”JD: No. I don’t want any money, I don’t want any royalties or anything like that. I just want recognition. I would like to get maybe a season ticket for the Mets for my son. And if they want to give me a season ticket for the Yankees, I’ll take that.”

    From Paul’s article…does anyone else think that is about one of the best quotes ever? The guy sounds like a class act. Come on MLB, give this guy a plaque. That attitude could teach the current $20 mil a season players a thing or two, if you ask me. :)[/quote]

    Whether he gets a plaque or a season ticket or just a handshake, I can say this: He’s one of the nicest, most forthcoming, most generous-spirited people I’ve ever interviewed. Really great guy. James Sherman is an interesting guy, too. This story was fascinating to pursue, on several different levels.[/quote]

    A good read. You’re a regular Studs Terkel (RIP).

  • Taha | November 5, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    great article on ESPN, Paul.

    One of the comments on the article echoed my thoughts, too. Perhaps Sherman’s logo was used for the White Sox logo of the 70’s that sorta looks like the MLB logo

  • KT | November 5, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”298385″][quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    Uh, last I saw Obama was a Philidelphia/Tampa Bay fan.[/quote]

    What? If you “Uh” somebody, you should be right.

  • Duckstyle | November 5, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”298377″][quote comment=”298317″][quote comment=”298309″][quote comment=”298302″][quote comment=”298279″] Wish I could have been there, but alas, 3 month old babies don’t take well to crowds in excess of 200,000.[/quote]
    Really? because that didn’t stop one lady from carrying around her young ‘un well past midnight on a night that I’m sure was a little brisk.
    [/quote]
    Brisk? Temps were in the mid-50s last night. On November 4th around here, that’s not even “sweater weather.” Hell, my kids wanted me to set up the pool in the yard last night. They settled for ice cream.

    And speaking of the Grant Park celebration, can someone tell me what the hell this thing is on Spike Lee’s head?[/quote]

    It was just about perfect weather. It was more the drive, I live about an hour and a half away in normal traffic. Considering the crowd it woulda been what, 3 or 4 before I got home? TV was good enough last night.[/quote]

    hour and a half huh? what’s that Dekalb? btw, what’s normal traffic around here?[/quote]

    Rockford, and I dunno, normal is a pretty reletive term I guess. I was just basing that around how long its taken me in the past.

  • Bigtinypig | November 5, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    Sean Taylor to be honored on the Redskins Ring of Fame at FedEx Field.
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Only uni-related in that the helmet style Taylor wore will be next to his name.

    Here’s what one of the Signs looks like:

    http://farm4.static....

  • WSC | November 5, 2008 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”298402″]And people complain because the new Yankee stadium tickets are supposed to be expensive![/quote]

    [sarcasm]Yowza! Nice to see that they keep the prices reasonable so that the everyday citizen can attend, not just the rich and powerful.[/sarcasm]

  • Adam | November 5, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=\”298353\”][quote comment=\”298347\”]I want to know more about this Miami/Buffalo game. How did they get NCAA permission to do that? Why do the powers that be allow that but raise a huge stink when UCLA and USC try to do the same thing?[/quote]
    Perhaps because it was election night and there was irony in the red vs. blue thing … or that it was just Miami OF OHIO (had to do it) vs. Buffalo and the solid vs. solid may have gone unnoticed? just thinking out loud, which is a dangerous thing.[/quote]

    They had to petition the NCAA to do it. Why, because in the world we live in the NCAA would like to spend more time on regulating who can where what color when than fixing the BSC

  • Jeff P | November 5, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”298411″][quote comment=”298402″]And people complain because the new Yankee stadium tickets are supposed to be expensive![/quote]

    [sarcasm]Yowza! Nice to see that they keep the prices reasonable so that the everyday citizen can attend, not just the rich and powerful.[/sarcasm][/quote]

    There are ways to get them free through local democratic party offices or office holders. If you did a lot of volunteering or know a senator or congressmen, they can hook you up no charge.

    Still a lot cheaper then 4 years worth of season tickets to the yankees…

  • War Damn Eagle | November 5, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”298389″][quote comment=”298379″][quote comment=”298378″]and i hate to ask but does anyone remember if there were dates set for the nats and o’s to unveil their new unis? i dont really remember what day they were posted and dont really want to search. so anyone remember off-hand?[/quote]

    Nats are scheduled for tomorrow. O’s for the 12th.[/quote]

    thanks man i appreciate it. knew someone could help me out. im psyched to see all the changes![/quote]

    I wish they’d get rid of the gold trim on the home uniforms. Here’s an idea of what they would look like: this is the A-ball affiliate in Woodbridge, the Potomac Nationals. The block letters aren’t so clunky when you get rid of the gold.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

  • War Damn Eagle | November 5, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    Nice article, Paul.

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”298407″]great article on ESPN, Paul.

    One of the comments on the article echoed my thoughts, too. Perhaps Sherman’s logo was used for the White Sox logo of the 70’s that sorta looks like the MLB logo[/quote]

    Sorta? C’mon man, its comparing a stick figure to a reasonably human looking silhouette. Why do you think people thought it was mirrored after Killebrew? Next thing you’ll tell me the White Sox logo was really Minnie Minoso.

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”298406″][quote comment=”298388″][quote comment=”298381″]”JD: No. I don’t want any money, I don’t want any royalties or anything like that. I just want recognition. I would like to get maybe a season ticket for the Mets for my son. And if they want to give me a season ticket for the Yankees, I’ll take that.”

    From Paul’s article…does anyone else think that is about one of the best quotes ever? The guy sounds like a class act. Come on MLB, give this guy a plaque. That attitude could teach the current $20 mil a season players a thing or two, if you ask me. :)[/quote]

    Whether he gets a plaque or a season ticket or just a handshake, I can say this: He’s one of the nicest, most forthcoming, most generous-spirited people I’ve ever interviewed. Really great guy. James Sherman is an interesting guy, too. This story was fascinating to pursue, on several different levels.[/quote]

    A good read. You’re a regular Studs Terkel (RIP).[/quote]

    Except, Studs would never be a Mets fan…NEVER. BTW Paul, nice to see that ol’ scoreboard come crashing down.

  • Michael Princip | November 5, 2008 at 3:33 pm |

    Excellent writeup on the MLB logo design Paul. Reminded me of my pursuit to find the designer of the original Seahawks logo, in order to answer some questions/doubts I’ve had about it over the years.

    http://www.greenglar...

    Never pinpointed a specific designer, yet, I believe I’ve unearthed some truths and reason to speculate further.

  • Quint | November 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”298345″][quote comment=”298341″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.[/quote]

    OHHHH but the logos are VERY MUCH part of the identity of a team as the uniform is.

    But I do agree that the Phillies logo update is VERY minor. If it’s not a radical change let’s not waste our time with it.

    Like lets get rid of this…

    http://www.ysacl.on....

    and go back to this VASTLY SUPERIOR LOGO!

    http://www.kineticid...

    I agree that the older Blue Jays logo is much better, but the logo you linked to never existed.

    This is the late 90’s logo:

    http://www.chriscrea...

    This is the actual original logo, which is the vastly superior one:

    http://www.chriscrea...

    The one you linked to is like a mash-up of the two:

    http://www.kineticid...

  • Maks | November 5, 2008 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”298419″][quote comment=”298345″][quote comment=”298341″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.[/quote]

    OHHHH but the logos are VERY MUCH part of the identity of a team as the uniform is.

    But I do agree that the Phillies logo update is VERY minor. If it’s not a radical change let’s not waste our time with it.

    Like lets get rid of this…

    http://www.ysacl.on....

    and go back to this VASTLY SUPERIOR LOGO!

    http://www.kineticid...

    I agree that the older Blue Jays logo is much better, but the logo you linked to never existed.

    This is the late 90’s logo:

    http://www.chriscrea...

    This is the actual original logo, which is the vastly superior one:

    http://www.chriscrea...

    The one you linked to is like a mash-up of the two:

    http://www.kineticid...

    wow.. good eye Quint!

  • chris | November 5, 2008 at 3:53 pm |

    by the way, the Penguins unveil their new alternate jersey tonight.

  • ewc | November 5, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”298274″]Please update the post to MIAMI UNIVERSITY! As an alumni, I can’t let this be printed as “Ohio”, and I hate when people in proper publications refer to the school improperly as “Miami of Ohio”.[/quote]

    Don’t you mean “alumnus”?

    Alumni is plural, Mr. College Graduate.

  • Tim | November 5, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”298420″][quote comment=”298419″][quote comment=”298345″][quote comment=”298341″][quote comment=”298271″]The Phillies logo is fine the way it is. Quit being so anal![/quote]

    Agreed!!! Plus if you look at the so-called updated version…really aside from the allignment of the stars…it is the same script as found on the Jerseys!! Who cares if they use the chunky letters with the fat underline on everything else–I thought we were concerned with their unis, not some crappy logos they stick on scorecards or elsewhere.[/quote]

    OHHHH but the logos are VERY MUCH part of the identity of a team as the uniform is.

    But I do agree that the Phillies logo update is VERY minor. If it’s not a radical change let’s not waste our time with it.

    Like lets get rid of this…

    http://www.ysacl.on....

    and go back to this VASTLY SUPERIOR LOGO!

    http://www.kineticid...

    I agree that the older Blue Jays logo is much better, but the logo you linked to never existed.

    This is the late 90’s logo:

    http://www.chriscrea...

    This is the actual original logo, which is the vastly superior one:

    http://www.chriscrea...

    The one you linked to is like a mash-up of the two:

    http://www.kineticid...

    wow.. good eye Quint![/quote]

    That mash-up logo is REALLY sweet. I like the shading on the bird and the ball in particular. Amazing how just taking some of the elements from the older logos and combining them gives you something that is VASTLY superior to the garbage they have now. And to think someone actually got paid to design their current logo.

  • chance | November 5, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”298368″][quote comment=”298361″][quote comment=”298356″][quote comment=”298323″]So happy I found this site first of all. I totally agree that the current Phillies logo is inept and have thought so since day 1. So, no copyright infringement — make up some shirts and sell ’em.[/quote]

    Really?? Do you also think these Logos were “inept”?

    http://www.philadelp...

    http://static.flickr...
    Both of those are vastly superior to the current script, largely in the way the designer suggested with his update.

    You’re making his case for him.[/quote]

    I disagree see this link of Ryan Howard…the script font is even tighter and thinner than the pic I posted of Robin Roberts. My point is that there is not a huge difference from the old school Phillies scripts of years past (Save the 70s 80s “P”) and the new Script found on their Jerseys. All the update did was remove the underline and thin out the (agreeabley thicker) letters from the sleeve patch logo. The Jerseys do not share the same bubbley logo as the patch…particularly in the double L’s.[/quote]
    But his point was that the script in the logo is a corrupted version of the original Phillies’ script (Paul made the suggestion that it might have been based on a several-generations-removed copy, as is known to happen).

    So pointing to the uniform script, which is similar to his improved logo script, makes his case for him. The logo script is bad and ought to be replaced.

  • PKK | November 5, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    Great ESPN article!
    One question – Paul, you said that every team wore the MLB patch in 1969. But I have never seen a picture of any Pirate with the patch. Did they wear it? And if not, why not? They were one of a handful of teams wearing sleeveless jerseys, but the others (Indians, A’s) did wear the patch. Anyone have any ideas??

  • chance | November 5, 2008 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”298391″][quote comment=”298385″][quote comment=”298350″]I’m glad the White Sox finally have a more prominent fan than Dennis DeYoung.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dennis DeYoung, mind you.[/quote]

    Uh, last I saw Obama was a Philidelphia/Tampa Bay fan.[/quote]

    He’s a Sox fan, has been as long as he has been on the South side of Chicago. What? all of a sudden its “lets make fun of politicians who congratulate their constituants sports teams?” This was a weak point man, where were you when Palin was dropping the puck for the Flyers?[/quote]

    Or the Blues?

    If saying nice things about a team not your own is somehoe hypocritical, then what does it say about Palin, who did the same for the Rays and Red Sox? (starts at 3:00)

    Nothing wrong with either of them did. As he said, weak point.

  • Jason Hillyer | November 5, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”298276″]Paul, come one

    Ohio. Don’t insult us RedHawks by pairing us with that godforsaken hell hole of a school. [/quote]

    No Bobcats reading the comments today and coming to the defense of our beloved Ohio University? I thought that the above description was harsh. Every OU alum I know had a great four (five or six!) years in Athens. ;)

    Another excellent piece of writing on ESPN, Paul.

  • Paul Lukas | November 5, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”298425″]Great ESPN article!
    One question – Paul, you said that every team wore the MLB patch in 1969. But I have never seen a picture of any Pirate with the patch. Did they wear it? And if not, why not? They were one of a handful of teams wearing sleeveless jerseys, but the others (Indians, A’s) did wear the patch. Anyone have any ideas??[/quote]

    Wow — you’re right! I never noticed before that the Pirates didn’t wear the patch in ’69. Fascinating!

  • PKK | November 5, 2008 at 5:36 pm |

    Here is another “patches” question. In 1976 all of the National League teams wore a National League 100th anniversary patch – well almost all of them. The Expos did not. They did wear a Montreal Olympics patch, but not the NL one. They couldn’t say, “We can only wear one patch” because the Cubs wore two that season. They dropped the bear cub logo and wore the NL patch on the right sleeve and a Cubs 100th anniversary patch on the left. Anyone have any ideas why the Expos got a pass?

  • SteveABQ | November 5, 2008 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”298424″][quote comment=”298368″][quote comment=”298361″][quote comment=”298356″][quote comment=”298323″]So happy I found this site first of all. I totally agree that the current Phillies logo is inept and have thought so since day 1. So, no copyright infringement — make up some shirts and sell ’em.[/quote]

    Really?? Do you also think these Logos were “inept”?

    http://www.philadelp...

    http://static.flickr...
    Both of those are vastly superior to the current script, largely in the way the designer suggested with his update.

    You’re making his case for him.[/quote]

    I disagree see this link of Ryan Howard…the script font is even tighter and thinner than the pic I posted of Robin Roberts. My point is that there is not a huge difference from the old school Phillies scripts of years past (Save the 70s 80s “P”) and the new Script found on their Jerseys. All the update did was remove the underline and thin out the (agreeabley thicker) letters from the sleeve patch logo. The Jerseys do not share the same bubbley logo as the patch…particularly in the double L’s.[/quote]
    But his point was that the script in the logo is a corrupted version of the original Phillies’ script (Paul made the suggestion that it might have been based on a several-generations-removed copy, as is known to happen).

    So pointing to the uniform script, which is similar to his improved logo script, makes his case for him. The logo script is bad and ought to be replaced.[/quote]

    Ok, you make a great point full of common sense. But, why not just say: Lets make the Phillies “logo” just like the script on the jerseys. Instead of trying to pawn off this inveiling of a “new design”. My point was we as fans did not see anything new — except for another fan taking what we are already used to on thier jerseys. You know its all in the delivery, if it had read on the post that this reader/poster had taken the Phillies script as we see on the jerseys and placed it on the logo ala’ Photoshop, then cool. But it was touted as a new design…credit where credit is due there is not anything really new about it. Its like Vanilla Ice and Queen.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 5, 2008 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”298429″]Here is another “patches” question. In 1976 all of the National League teams wore a National League 100th anniversary patch – well almost all of them. The Expos did not. They did wear a Montreal Olympics patch, but not the NL one. They couldn’t say, “We can only wear one patch” because the Cubs wore two that season. They dropped the bear cub logo and wore the NL patch on the right sleeve and a Cubs 100th anniversary patch on the left. Anyone have any ideas why the Expos got a pass?[/quote]

    Because nobody was watching them?

  • Colin | November 5, 2008 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment=\”298429\”]Here is another \”patches\” question. In 1976 all of the National League teams wore a National League 100th anniversary patch – well almost all of them. The Expos did not. They did wear a Montreal Olympics patch, but not the NL one. They couldn\’t say, \”We can only wear one patch\” because the Cubs wore two that season. They dropped the bear cub logo and wore the NL patch on the right sleeve and a Cubs 100th anniversary patch on the left. Anyone have any ideas why the Expos got a pass?[/quote]

    All of Canada was waiting for hockey to start that fall and no one watched the Expos for the next 25 years.

  • Colin | November 5, 2008 at 6:04 pm |

    Fist of Rage to Hemogoblin for getting to the punch line 1 minute before I did.

  • Patrick in MI | November 5, 2008 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”298296″]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/11/04/us/subwithstroke2.jpg

    I’m not sure what is more distirbing… The giant Nike banners or the “vote here” sign in 4 different languages.

    On a lighter note, I’m really surprised that advertising on TSA stuff and overhead bins hadn’t already started. How long will it be before airports sell off naming rights? I can see it now… “The Bank of America TSA security gate is now open. The Oppenheimer Group would like to thank you for using the Oppenheimer Group O’Hare International Airport for all of your international buisness.”[/quote]

    Well you can’t even get English right so what’s your point?

  • The Hemogoblin is faster than Colin is | November 5, 2008 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”298433″]Fist of Rage to Hemogoblin for getting to the punch line 1 minute before I did.[/quote]

    Muahuahuahua… Never question the abilities of someone who has 30,000 comments on one site.

  • Beardface | November 5, 2008 at 6:49 pm |

    A fair warning…

    Tomorrow night’s football game between Virginia Tech and Maryland is going to feature a maroon monstrosity like you have never seen before. Not only is Virginia Tech wearing all-maroon uniforms (maroon helmet, maroon top, maroon pants, maroon socks, maroon long sleeve undershirts) but the school has painted all lettering and logos on the field maroon as well. That includes a big maroon VT at midfield, maroon ACC logos on the 25 yard lines, and maroon ‘VIRGINIA TECH’ in each end zone. This, combined with the Maroon Effect the fanbase (every fan will be in a maroon shirt) will be doing as well as the maroon padding on each end zone wall and on each goalpost…

    Safe to say, if you don’t like the color maroon, I suggest you find something else to do during the game.

  • LarenR | November 5, 2008 at 7:26 pm |

    I don’t know if this has ben posted before, but the NHL Online Shop is now selling “Vintage Hockey” merch. I know some folks have been looking for old Whalers gear, so check it out. No jerseys (fine, sweaters), but some tees, caps, etc.

  • cam | November 5, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”298274″]Please update the post to MIAMI UNIVERSITY! As an alumni, I can’t let this be printed as “Ohio”, and I hate when people in proper publications refer to the school improperly as “Miami of Ohio”.[/quote]

    From page 1 of the football media guide:
    “When referring to Miami, please use Miami University, Miami University (Ohio), or Miami (Ohio). Please do not use Miami of Ohio, University of Miami of Ohio, etc. The latter are not the proper names for our institution.”

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”298436″]A fair warning…

    Tomorrow night’s football game between Virginia Tech and Maryland is going to feature a maroon monstrosity like you have never seen before. Not only is Virginia Tech wearing all-maroon uniforms (maroon helmet, maroon top, maroon pants, maroon socks, maroon long sleeve undershirts) but the school has painted all lettering and logos on the field maroon as well. That includes a big maroon VT at midfield, maroon ACC logos on the 25 yard lines, and maroon ‘VIRGINIA TECH’ in each end zone. This, combined with the Maroon Effect the fanbase (every fan will be in a maroon shirt) will be doing as well as the maroon padding on each end zone wall and on each goalpost…

    Safe to say, if you don’t like the color maroon, I suggest you find something else to do during the game.[/quote]

    glad you posted this…hopefully nobody missed it

    /on another note, i will be more or less forced to watch, insofar as my cable provider chooses not to carry the no fun league network broadcast of what could possibly feature the browns in all turd colors

    //what’s on the history channel?

  • LarenR | November 5, 2008 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”298439″][quote comment=”298436″]A fair warning…

    Tomorrow night’s football game between Virginia Tech and Maryland is going to feature a maroon monstrosity like you have never seen before. Not only is Virginia Tech wearing all-maroon uniforms (maroon helmet, maroon top, maroon pants, maroon socks, maroon long sleeve undershirts) but the school has painted all lettering and logos on the field maroon as well. That includes a big maroon VT at midfield, maroon ACC logos on the 25 yard lines, and maroon ‘VIRGINIA TECH’ in each end zone. This, combined with the Maroon Effect the fanbase (every fan will be in a maroon shirt) will be doing as well as the maroon padding on each end zone wall and on each goalpost…

    Safe to say, if you don’t like the color maroon, I suggest you find something else to do during the game.[/quote]

    glad you posted this…hopefully nobody missed it

    /on another note, i will be more or less forced to watch, insofar as my cable provider chooses not to carry the no fun league network broadcast of what could possibly feature the browns in all turd colors

    //what’s on the history channel?[/quote]
    How ’bout MLS playoffs on The Deuce? NE Revolution v. Chicago Fire. Look at the Fire logo to make your head spin like Duckstyle…

  • Dan in Jersey | November 5, 2008 at 9:07 pm |

    Looks like the Steinbrenners will push for the new building to be called Yankee Stadium, as if nothing’s changed.

    Nobody’s gonna call it ‘Yankee Stadium’, are they?
    To me it will be NEW Yankee Stadium.

    Like Comiskey…

  • doug | November 5, 2008 at 9:25 pm |

    The “redesigned” Phillies logo looks very similar to the one the team used from 1950-1969.

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    Damn you, Beardface!

    *shakes fist angrily*

    CAN… NOT… GET… BUGS BUNNY’S VOICE… OUT… OF… HEAD!

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 10:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”298439″]
    /on another note, i will be more or less forced to watch, insofar as my cable provider chooses not to carry the no fun league network broadcast of what could possibly feature the browns in all turd colors[/quote]
    Just out of curiosity, have you looked into one of the various satellite providers? Pretty sure they all carry the NFL Network. Or are you lacking a clear view of the southern sky?

    or, if you’re really dying to see the game, you could always, y’know, go out somewhere to watch it.

  • gppittjk | November 5, 2008 at 10:10 pm |

    new pens thirds
    http://www.icethetic...

    identical to their winter classics. i like em. gonna have to pick myself up one.

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 10:11 pm |

    OK, this is sorta on-topic with today’s post…

    How long does it take them to crank out a “South Park” episode? Did slap this thing together this morning?

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”298444″][quote comment=”298439″]
    /on another note, i will be more or less forced to watch, insofar as my cable provider chooses not to carry the no fun league network broadcast of what could possibly feature the browns in all turd colors[/quote]
    Just out of curiosity, have you looked into one of the various satellite providers? Pretty sure they all carry the NFL Network. Or are you lacking a clear view of the southern sky?

    or, if you’re really dying to see the game, you could always, y’know, go out somewhere to watch it.[/quote]

    i live in a condo…so…no dishes on the building or the roof, so im f—ed there…im not really dying to see the game, but i am curious about the possible turd suits…and yeah, i managed to somehow see all but one of last year’s nfl network games by going elsewhere…but i gotta biotch about something

    /what is this ‘MLS’ about which laren speaks? is that a sport?

  • JTH | November 5, 2008 at 10:16 pm |

    ummm… that should’ve said:

    Did they slap this thing together this morning?

  • Terri | November 5, 2008 at 10:22 pm |

    ok, this isn’t in any way uni-related, but since it’s already been brought up…do you have to have tickets to the inauguration? Or is it just that there’s a sectioned off area where you need tickets for and everyone else can just stand far away? Or do they close off the entire mall?

  • Terri | November 5, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”298449″]ok, this isn’t in any way uni-related, but since it’s already been brought up…do you have to have tickets to the inauguration? Or is it just that there’s a sectioned off area where you need tickets for and everyone else can just stand far away? Or do they close off the entire mall?[/quote]

    And what about the parade?

  • LarenR | November 5, 2008 at 10:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”298447″][quote comment=”298444″][quote comment=”298439″]
    /on another note, i will be more or less forced to watch, insofar as my cable provider chooses not to carry the no fun league network broadcast of what could possibly feature the browns in all turd colors[/quote]
    Just out of curiosity, have you looked into one of the various satellite providers? Pretty sure they all carry the NFL Network. Or are you lacking a clear view of the southern sky?

    or, if you’re really dying to see the game, you could always, y’know, go out somewhere to watch it.[/quote]

    i live in a condo…so…no dishes on the building or the roof, so im f—ed there…im not really dying to see the game, but i am curious about the possible turd suits…and yeah, i managed to somehow see all but one of last year’s nfl network games by going elsewhere…but i gotta biotch about something

    /what is this ‘MLS’ about which laren speaks? is that a sport?[/quote]
    MLS: ‘Mericans Loath Soccer. But I hear it’s popular elsewhere in the world…

  • Vince | November 5, 2008 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”298327″][quote comment=”298286″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess[/quote]

    Don’t be rediculous. According to all the pictures the nuns showed us, Jesus was a scrawny white guy with long hair and off-the-wall ideas… definitely a place-kicker. Not the conditioning coach type.

    Maybe Peter; I think he was an O-lineman.[/quote]

    According to this picture…
    http://upload.wikime...

    Jesus and Peter’s team will soon be seeing this…
    http://www.nfl.com/r...

    :)

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2008 at 10:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”298453″][quote comment=”298327″][quote comment=”298286″][quote comment=”298280″][quote comment=”298279″]which I guess refers to Florida’s conditioning coach[/quote]

    Not cool.[/quote]
    Probably Jesus just my guess[/quote]

    Don’t be rediculous. According to all the pictures the nuns showed us, Jesus was a scrawny white guy with long hair and off-the-wall ideas… definitely a place-kicker. Not the conditioning coach type.

    Maybe Peter; I think he was an O-lineman.[/quote]

    According to this picture…
    http://upload.wikime...

    Jesus and Peter’s team will soon be seeing this…
    http://www.nfl.com/r...

    :)[/quote]

    that’s teh funny ;)

  • jon | November 5, 2008 at 11:16 pm |

    view of a couple of pens at the debut of the third jersey

    http://penguins.nhl....

    it should be the first story on that page. again, they look sharp. exact same as the winter classic jerseys.

  • Johnny O | November 5, 2008 at 11:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”298425″]Great ESPN article!
    One question – Paul, you said that every team wore the MLB patch in 1969. But I have never seen a picture of any Pirate with the patch. Did they wear it? And if not, why not? They were one of a handful of teams wearing sleeveless jerseys, but the others (Indians, A’s) did wear the patch. Anyone have any ideas??[/quote]

    I was very surprised to even see Seattle getting in on the mix.
    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    But why doesn’t this jersey have the patch on it?
    http://farm1.static....

    these replicas do though:
    http://www.dugout-me...

    Anyone got some good pics of Seattle in 1969 with the MLB logo patch on it? I just need to job my memory. (OK, I wasn’t alive in ’69 to have a memory of it, but to jog my memory of seeing them with the patch)

  • MLB2PDX | November 6, 2008 at 12:35 am |

    Oregon’s new baseball uniforms. For the most part, I like them. But man alive, I laughed out loud when I saw the big giant “O”. WTF?! It’s interesting that the pinstripe is actually the Oregon Fight Song in really small font. I usually prefer very traditional uniforms (in any sport), but I actually like that idea. Unique for sure.

    http://www.goducks.c...

  • Mike Engle | November 6, 2008 at 1:57 am |

    [quote comment=”298456″][quote comment=”298425″]Great ESPN article!
    One question – Paul, you said that every team wore the MLB patch in 1969. But I have never seen a picture of any Pirate with the patch. Did they wear it? And if not, why not? They were one of a handful of teams wearing sleeveless jerseys, but the others (Indians, A’s) did wear the patch. Anyone have any ideas??[/quote]

    I was very surprised to even see Seattle getting in on the mix.
    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    But why doesn’t this jersey have the patch on it?
    http://farm1.static....

    these replicas do though:
    http://www.dugout-me...

    Anyone got some good pics of Seattle in 1969 with the MLB logo patch on it? I just need to job my memory. (OK, I wasn’t alive in ’69 to have a memory of it, but to jog my memory of seeing them with the patch)[/quote]
    How about this? Good enough?

  • stuart wolf | November 7, 2008 at 6:13 pm |

    I was in Modell’s Sporting Goods and was told the Phillies 2009 uniforms are being slightly changed; especially in the lettering. I was told the lettering was to be more “Yankee style” (of all things)and names would not be on home uniforms. Modells was going to have a huge sale on “Black Friday” of all existing Phils uniform jerseys.

    Has anyone heard of an upcoming Phils uniform change? If yes, what will it look like? Thanks.