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Good Thing Chris Hovan Isn’t a Union Rep

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Kickers don’t get on the field very often, plus the Ravens had a bye in Week 2, so it’s taken a little while for the issue of Matt Stover’s black sleeve with the Gene Upshaw patch to reach critical mass. It’s been briefly mentioned in the Ticker and in the comments, but until this week I didn’t realize that Stover had been been wearing it all season long, as you can see in these shots from Week 1 (when he also wore the giant Upshaw chest patch), Week 3, and Week 4.

The whole thing seemed very odd, on a number of fronts. First, we all know the NFL usually frowns on uniform freestyling, so how was Stover getting away with this? The fact that Stover (who’s the Ravens’ union rep) was openly critical of Upshaw’s union leadership just six months ago only made things weirder.

On Tuesday I called the Ravens to get the scoop. They promised to make Stover available for an interview, which took place yesterday. Here’s how it went down:

Uni Watch: We’ve seen lots of memorials for Gene Upshaw this season — first there was a chest patch, then that was removed and changed to a helmet decal, except for the Raiders, who’ve kept wearing a smaller chest patch — but you’re the only player I’m aware of who’s worn a black sleeve and a sleeve patch. How come?

Matt Stover: That was one of the things that went out around the league. Now, being a kicker, it’s a little easier to wear a sleeve band. That’s really what it is, an arm band.

UW: It’s a band that covers your regular sleeve?

MS: Yeah. And it was made to go all the way around. And I think that became cumbersome. But what I did with my equipment guy, Ed Carroll, his lovely wife actually cut it and sewed it onto my jersey.

UW: So originally it was sort of like a sleeve around the sleeve, so to speak, and she did a little custom tailoring for you?

MS: A little tailoring work, yeah. She did such a great job. And because of that, it’s just easy to wear, it’s not a problem. It’s honorable to Gene, and what he’s done for us. And I just want the NFL to know the solidarity we had, even though, y’know, the letter that went out and all that, I just wanted to say, “Hey, look, NFL, we’re OK. Everybody’s good here.”

UW: When you refer to “the letter,” you’re talking about the e-mail that became public about six months ago, in which you were critical of Gene. Was that situation part of why you’ve chosen to wear the sleeve band, to make an extra gesture as a way of saying, “Hey, I disagreed with him, but I still respected him?” or something along those lines?

MS: Not something extra, no. I just wanted to make sure that — I mean, the letter did say that we’re supposed to wear it all year, from the NFL. So I’m going to honor that.

UW: You mean the patch?

MS: No, the arm band, for player reps.

UW: Oh, really? You mean this was the league’s idea all along, for player reps to wear the sleeve band?

MS: Yeah.

UW: But I believe you’re the only player rep who’s worn it.

MS: Well, that’s because we went the extra mile. My equipment guy asked if I wanted to do it, and I said sure. And you know, I wanted people to know that I am the player rep, I’m proud of it, and we’ve got unity, even with guys who have disagreed with Gene.

UW: I didn’t realize this was a league-initiated idea. Normally, as you know, the league is notoriously picky about uniform adjustments.

MS: I will say this: They’ve been really respectful to the death of Gene Upshaw, and what he’s meant to this league. They’ve been great. Putting the patch on the front of the jersey, yeah, that ended up being a little bit much, because with the captain’s patch and all the other things, it started getting a little bit out of hand. Then they put it on the back of the helmet, which is not bad at all. Doesn’t look too much like Nascar.

UW: But you wanted to keep something on the jersey.

MS: Yes. For respect.

UW: And again, that was the league’s idea?

MS: Yes, for union reps. And you know, I have not spoken to any of other reps around the league with regard to this, and what that meant to them, and why they’re not wearing it, and whatnot. To me, it doesn’t matter. I thought it was a good idea, so I’m wearing it.

UW: Has anyone on an opposing team, or even on your own team, said, “Hey, what’s up with your sleeve?” or whatever?

MS: They kinda look at me. One guy was starting to ask me about it right before I was getting ready to kick a field goal, and I went, “Dude, chill out — let me go kick it first, then we’ll talk about it.”

UW: This was someone on your team?

MS: Yeah.

UW: Who?

MS: I don’t remember, you know how it is in the middle of a game. He was all curious — “What’s that, Stoves?” I said, “C’mon, man, let me kick first.” So yeah, the guys wanna know what it is, and I just tell ’em, I’m the player rep and I’m just givin’ it up for Gene and the union.

Fair enough. Odd that the league never publicly announced anything about the union reps being encouraged to wear the sleeve tributes, though.

When you factor in all the other salutes (jersey patch, helmet decal, field memorial), I think it’s safe to say that Upshaw is probably the most memorialized person in NFL history. Which is pretty remarkable when you consider that the guy who basically invented the modern NFL only got a one-game helmet decal in Super Bowl XXXI.

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Membership News: The good news is that we’ve gotten all sorts of cool membership orders lately (including Valerie Kyriakopoulos’s shout-out to former Browns great Leroy Kelly, shown at right; as always, you can see the full gallery of card designs here). The bad news is that a few unavoidable circumstances have kept us from processing them as quickly as I would have liked. But the good news is that about 15 cards should go out in today’s mail, and hopefully at least that many going out on Tuesday as well. My thanks to all enrollees for your patience.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s a nice shot of the U. of Washington helmet cart (with thanks to Ian Reandeau). … Michael Alper reports that Syracuse now has a women’s hockey team. You can see their uniforms here. … Mike Stevens has noticed that Titans defenders sometimes have loose strings hanging off of their jerseys (presumably similar to the laces Bill Romanowski used to wear to make his jersey tighter). I hadn’t noticed this before. Anyone else..? … New hoops uniforms for Oklahoma. … Someone posted this in yesterday’s comments, which pretty got my eyes popping out of their sockets. Here’s why: Over the past five years or so, approximately skatey-eight bijillion Pats fans have told me the story about how the Pats once had a “mascot contest” during halftime, with fans being instructed to “vote” via applause for either Pat Patriot or a proposed replacement character. Pat won, so that was the end of that, but nobody has every come up with a photo of what the proposed replacement looked like. Several people have told me, however, that the replacement guy bore at least a superficial resemblance to Flying Elvis, a description that could arguably sorta-kinda apply to this fella. Can anyone fill in some of the blanks here? … “The minor league Fort Wayne [Indiana] Wizards are moving into a new ballpark and have decided to change their name, becoming the Fort Wayne Tin Caps (a reference to Johnny Appleseed, who’s buried in Ft. Wayne),” reports the pseudonymous Sean Bratton. “The team has now become the laughingstock of the town, soon to be playing in a new downtown stadium no one wanted. I don’t think the logo looks too bad, it’s just that the name would make the Ft. Wayne Strawberry Shortcakes sound intimidating.” … Sure enough, Oregon is getting new Nike uniforms — for the volleyball team (nobody likes a tease, Ken Ocker). … Could Golden State be getting a new mascot? Who really gives a fuck? Could be (with thanks to Brendan Tarpey). … Here’s something you don’t often see: a double-decker hyphenated subscript NOB. That’s Taj McWilliams-Franklin of the Detroit Shock (big thanks, as always, to Jeremy Brahm).

 

171 comments to Good Thing Chris Hovan Isn’t a Union Rep

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    in re: today’s headline

    if hovan did wear a black armband…would it look like this?

  • Joe Hilseberg | October 3, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    Awesome interview Paul! I’m surprised you didn’t ask him if he hates wearing purple? ;)

  • scott | October 3, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    When I first heard the name TinCaps, I thought the baseball team might be adopting some sort of golf terminology.

    And I don’t think it’s accurate to characterize the new Fort Wayne ballpark as a stadium no one wanted. If that were the case, it certainly wouldn’t be getting built.

  • David | October 3, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team. Yeesh, he wasn’t in any official capacity in the NFL office, only the NFLPA head. This is the man who nearly caused an entire season in 1982 to go down the drain. I can understand if the Raiders want to wear a decal, but everyone else? Come on. This is the same NFL who denied Jake Plummer’s request to honor a real American hero, Pat Tillman. I’m sorry. Upshaw does not deserve this kind of adoration.

    Yes, I realize the Chiefs and Bears have permanent memorials to their founders. But that’s different. You can’t talk about the history of professional football without talking about Lamar Hunt and George Halas. Which brings me to the next point…

    How did Pete Rozelle get so shafted? Why didn’t every NFL team wear memorial patches and/or decals at the end of the 1996 season after he died? What, the commissioner of the NFL for 29 years, the man who brought us the Super Bowl, Monday Night Football, the merger, and everything else we know and love about the NFL today, is worth that much less than Gene Upshaw? If Rozelle were black, would we have seen a larger tribute? I bet so.

    I was steaming mad about the Upshaw triubte before, but Stover’s armband was the breaking point. I will root so hard against that guy the rest of his career. He needs to be fined for that crap.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    I didn’t notice it yesterday, but that Pats mascot pretty much has the Union Pacific logo on his chest…

    http://www.kremmling...

  • Scott | October 3, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    Fort Wayne native here, who has lived in NC for 15 years and attends many a Durham Bulls game … that new logo and nickname is brilliant. The tie to Johnny Appleseed is unique and the implementation with the logo is darn good, too.

    FYI, the new stadium is being built right downtown in the perfect location for a mid-size city (as opposed to the previous stadium built outside of the core near a bypass).

    Between that nickname and the hoops team the Fort Wayne Mad Ants (in honor of the city’s namesake General “Mad Anthony” Wayne), they’ve got two of the most creative looks in all of minor league sports. Kudos.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Kevin | October 3, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    Is Joe Montana wearing baseball cleats in this photo?

  • PK | October 3, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    To David: I agree with your opinion, about how GU nearly ruined the NFL and it is because of him that salaries and (directly of this cause) pushing out the middle class ticket buyer….

    but I (who is a BIG TIME McCain-Palin supporter/voter),feel that your point would have been better off without the “We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President”…

    i believe your post would have made a much more significant point without that sentence….

    (not that I don’t agree with you….but personal politics should stay off the board)

  • Pat | October 3, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Wouldn’t the “subscript” you referred to on Taj McWilliams-Franklin’s NOB actually be a superscript since the baseline is shifted up?

    I’m glad the Pats didn’t switch to that mascot BUT if there was a poster of that available I would pay handsomely for it.

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 3, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    Here’s a line from the Ft. Wayne press release, discussing some of the other names submitted…

    Finally, there were those that were incongruous (such as “Fort Wayne Fighting Amish” and “Fort Wayne Mighty Gherkins”), those that were not particularly descriptive (“Fort Wayne Dudes”), those that were not very family friendly (including numerous named derived from that of former Mayor Harold Baals…

    Harold Baals……what an unfortunate name. Heh.

  • Greg | October 3, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    And there was this list of proposed names for Fort Wayne.

    10. Fort Wayne Newtons
    9. Fort Wayne Dudes
    8. Fort Wayne Weiner Dogs
    7. Fort Knocks
    6. Fort Wayne Fashizzle
    5. iWiz
    4. Fort Wayne Mighty Gherkins
    3. Fort Wayne.ComPadres
    2. Harrison SquarePants
    1. Hoosier Daddies

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 3, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    Oh, and I do like the nickname “TinCaps” as well as the logo.

  • Taha | October 3, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    why does that apple have a swoosh on its face?

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”293077″]And there was this list of proposed names for Fort Wayne.

    10. Fort Wayne Newtons
    9. Fort Wayne Dudes
    8. Fort Wayne Weiner Dogs
    7. Fort Knocks
    6. Fort Wayne Fashizzle
    5. iWiz
    4. Fort Wayne Mighty Gherkins
    3. Fort Wayne.ComPadres
    2. Harrison SquarePants
    1. Hoosier Daddies[/quote]
    Sounds like the OKC basketball group should’ve checked with the good people of Ft. Wayne before choosing a name.

  • Ryan | October 3, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    If anybody could do a screen grab of the Red Hot Chili Peppers iTunes page, there’s an awesome group headshot where they’re all four wearing late 70’s era ill-fitting suspension helmets. I tried and couldn’t get it to work.

  • Cryptic Ned | October 3, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    I agree with David that black people and unions have held way too much power in America for way too long, and that this is nowhere more true than in the NFL. Wait, no I don’t.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    Since the Ft. Wayne team is a minor league affiliate of the Padres, ‘Hoosier Daddies’ was a truly inspired suggestion.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    I predict that on every Sunday until the end of the season, the comments section will feature at least one “Hey, what’s up with Matt Stover’s sleeve?!?” comment.

  • Blackwater Park | October 3, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    Wow! We know Paul doesn’t like purple, but I think we just figured out that David loves white and hates black.

  • Duckstyle | October 3, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team. Yeesh, he wasn’t in any official capacity in the NFL office, only the NFLPA head. This is the man who nearly caused an entire season in 1982 to go down the drain. I can understand if the Raiders want to wear a decal, but everyone else? Come on. This is the same NFL who denied Jake Plummer’s request to honor a real American hero, Pat Tillman. I’m sorry. Upshaw does not deserve this kind of adoration.

    Yes, I realize the Chiefs and Bears have permanent memorials to their founders. But that’s different. You can’t talk about the history of professional football without talking about Lamar Hunt and George Halas. Which brings me to the next point…

    How did Pete Rozelle get so shafted? Why didn’t every NFL team wear memorial patches and/or decals at the end of the 1996 season after he died? What, the commissioner of the NFL for 29 years, the man who brought us the Super Bowl, Monday Night Football, the merger, and everything else we know and love about the NFL today, is worth that much less than Gene Upshaw? If Rozelle were black, would we have seen a larger tribute? I bet so.

    I was steaming mad about the Upshaw triubte before, but Stover’s armband was the breaking point. I will root so hard against that guy the rest of his career. He needs to be fined for that crap.[/quote]

    Thanks for that second line, right up until then I was thinking, “man, I could go for some nice racist-McCarthyism banter this morning.” and deliver, you did.

    But seriously, I think we can all agree with your other points. But at the same time I do think Stover wearing the band, and getting it sew-on is a pretty nice touch. Must be a stand-up guy, good for him.

  • Duckstyle | October 3, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    Excuse me, I meant I agreed with all the non-racist points. about Rozelle getting the shaft, etc.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”293068″]Awesome interview Paul! I’m surprised you didn’t ask him if he hates wearing purple? ;)[/quote]

    there you go again joe, talkin about the past

    /can i call you joe?

  • KT | October 3, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team. Yeesh, he wasn’t in any official capacity in the NFL office, only the NFLPA head. This is the man who nearly caused an entire season in 1982 to go down the drain. [/quote]

    Ed Garvey was the NFLPA Executive Director in 1982. Gene Upshaw had just retired after the 1981 season and was not head the head of the NFLPA.

    Oh, and you’re a racist.

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.

  • The Hemogoblin | October 3, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    Taj McWilliams-Franklin is the best NOB ever seen. Honestly. Short of her sister playing on the same team, it has everything that you look for in an NOB.

    Also, being a tease is fun!

  • Hot Rodd | October 3, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    Yeah the guy should be fined… for following through with a league initiative. Did you even read the interview, or did you just see an opportunity for racist hate-mongering and go for it. WTG David. I now know to ignore anything you ever say again.

    Regarding the proliferation of tributes of recent years, I still believe that the difference is that the NFL now has a new commissioner who is more (and some would say too) lenient with the tributes.

  • Hot Rodd | October 3, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    oh… and you are an idiot to boot

  • Kerry P | October 3, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    I have to say that I really like the unis for Oklahoma. I like the addition of the “OU” logo on the shorts and the stripes on the side.

    As for the Fort Wayne TinCaps…I LOVE it. I think it’s a great name and logo for a minor league ballclub.

  • skott daltonic | October 3, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”293085″]Wow! We know Paul doesn’t like purple, but I think we just figured out that David loves white and hates black.[/quote]

    good god thats funny.

    TIN CAPS: they should wear gray caps, right? w/ a burgundy apple on ’em? i like the name. kinda cool to NOT see someone going for the intimidating angle.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”293095″][quote comment=”293085″]Wow! We know Paul doesn’t like purple, but I think we just figured out that David loves white and hates black.[/quote]

    good god thats funny.

    TIN CAPS: they should wear gray caps, right? w/ a burgundy apple on ’em? i like the name. kinda cool to NOT see someone going for the intimidating angle.[/quote]
    I don’t know about that. That apple looks pretty pissed off.

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”293074″]…but personal politics should stay off the board)[/quote]
    Couldn’t agree with you more. The banter, David’s diarrhea of the keyboard notwithstanding, has returned to UW-relevant topics in the wake of last Monday’s $hitstorm. All is back to right in the UW world.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”293084″]I predict that on every Sunday until the end of the season, the comments section will feature at least one “Hey, what’s up with Matt Stover’s sleeve?!?” comment.[/quote]

    god no

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”293073″]Is Joe Montana wearing baseball cleats in this photo?[/quote]
    No, but Roger Craig is.

    HA!

    As for the Tin Caps: I like the name. The new ballpark looks fantastic. I’m iffy on the logo — a wee bit too cutesy for my liking, but if it’s not featured prominently on the unis (or not at all), it might work. A simple FW on the cap, maybe with the apple character as a sleeve patch?

  • Craig Bates | October 3, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”293081″]If anybody could do a screen grab of the Red Hot Chili Peppers iTunes page, there’s an awesome group headshot where they’re all four wearing late 70’s era ill-fitting suspension helmets. I tried and couldn’t get it to work.[/quote]

    Here you go–RHCP football helmet photo.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    Hilarious take by Ray Ratto on the Warriors mascot and the OKC choice.

    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • ChrisSh | October 3, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team. Yeesh, he wasn’t in any official capacity in the NFL office, only the NFLPA head. This is the man who nearly caused an entire season in 1982 to go down the drain. I can understand if the Raiders want to wear a decal, but everyone else? Come on. This is the same NFL who denied Jake Plummer’s request to honor a real American hero, Pat Tillman. I’m sorry. Upshaw does not deserve this kind of adoration.
    [/quote]
    Thank you for making us all more stupid with your racist, ignorant post. And rooting against a player because they are memorializing a dead person? I don’t know whether your anger is more funny or scary…

  • Glen | October 3, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”293073″]Is Joe Montana wearing baseball cleats in this photo?[/quote]
    I do believe so

  • Alan | October 3, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    Big fan of the Tin Caps redesign! Minor League Baseball is at its best when it doesn’t jump on the predatory animal/ abstract noun bandwagon.

  • chance | October 3, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”293104″]Big fan of the Tin Caps redesign! Minor League Baseball is at its best when it doesn’t jump on the predatory animal/ abstract noun bandwagon.[/quote]

    Agreed – minor league baseball thrives with a certain amount of whimsy. I like this name and logo, curious to see what they do with it on the uniforms.

  • rob | October 3, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    Racism is the inherent belief that one race is superior to another. Wheras his comments don’t have a place on this site, racism is the wrong word to use.

  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”293100″][quote comment=”293081″]If anybody could do a screen grab of the Red Hot Chili Peppers iTunes page, there’s an awesome group headshot where they’re all four wearing late 70’s era ill-fitting suspension helmets. I tried and couldn’t get it to work.[/quote]

    Here you go–RHCP football helmet photo. [/quote]

    Whoa, when did Will Ferrel join RHCP. All apologies, Mr. Smith.

  • Jeff P | October 3, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    Fort Wayne Tin Caps? At least they weren’t the Greensboro Bats (decent animal, nice baseball reference) Moving into a new stadium and becoming the Greensboro Grasshoppers.

    At least the Grasshoppers Unis are nicer…

    Logos:
    before: http://www.baseball-...
    After: http://greenvilledri...

    Uniforms:
    Before: http://www.instantre...
    After:http://www.gsohopper...
    http://farm2.static....

    they have tried to reexplain the name at the stadium though, they have a grasshopper cannon there which apparently played a big part in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse.

    But I think they just wanted something that players on the Marlins could feel superior to.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”293106″][quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    Racism is the inherent belief that one race is superior to another. Wheras his comments don’t have a place on this site, racism is the wrong word to use.[/quote]

    i suggest “douchebaggery”

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”293106″][quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    Racism is the inherent belief that one race is superior to another. Wheras his comments don’t have a place on this site, racism is the wrong word to use.[/quote]
    Looks like a pretty good choice to me

  • Hot Rodd | October 3, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”293106″][quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    Racism is the inherent belief that one race is superior to another. Wheras his comments don’t have a place on this site, racism is the wrong word to use.[/quote]

    And what part of his statement do you not find denigrating to African Americans? It must be the part where he intimates that it is unbelievable and ridiculous that we could have a black candidate for president at the same time that that the most popular sports league is honoring an influential black union rep.

    I don’t know about you but I got the impression from his post that he would be very excited to wake up and be back in a time when lynchings were not only common but popular. But I guess that is not racism in your book.

    rant end.

    I apologize to Comrade Lucas for ranting on the board when he has already banished david to the gulags of Siberia.

  • Rick White Un Trois | October 3, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    If describing the race and political leanings of a candidate is racist, then there are a LOT of racists out there. And I don’t just mean white males.

    And, if writing that description and one’s views on this blog causes one to be banned from here when inflammatory political views are expressed by others, then I ban myself.

  • Patrick | October 3, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    The logo is a bit lame (and the lettering is awful) but Tin Caps is a great minor league nickname. The fact that they’re dropping “Wizards” for it makes it that much better.

  • Paul | October 3, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    NFL Re-play was thinking of something different when they were watching this game. A little logo faux pas.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Ronnie Poore | October 3, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    thanks for the shot of the Packers helmet with the “Pete” tribute sticker. cool little tribute.
    i didn’t realize the Green Bay helmet stripes were a one piece deal (note the clear edge on the outside of the green stripes).

  • Lwiedy | October 3, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”293100″][quote comment=”293081″]If anybody could do a screen grab of the Red Hot Chili Peppers iTunes page, there’s an awesome group headshot where they’re all four wearing late 70’s era ill-fitting suspension helmets. I tried and couldn’t get it to work.[/quote]

    Here you go–RHCP football helmet photo. [/quote]

    Match the facemasks:
    http://www.helmethut...
    http://bengalsjungle...
    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://www.go4thesta...
    The Kilmer photo is from the ’75 HOF Game in Canton.

  • Michael Princip | October 3, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    Just because I missed an opportunity to post this yesterday, I feel it’s important to make a special shout out to the man who made the ‘Pro Football Experience(’73)’ book and these other wonderful books of the NFL early years(see link); David Boss:

    http://www.greenglar...

    David Boss, who as vice president of publishing and creative services for the National Football League started “PRO!” magazine, which served as the league’s preprint in all game day programs. Trained as a photographer, Boss graduated from the Cleveland Institute of Arts and went to Los Angeles, working for the Los Angeles Rams and the team’s public relations director and then-general manager Pete Rozelle. Boss went to work for NFL Properties after Rozelle became the league’s commissioner in 1960. While with NFL Properties he designed the official programs and posters for the first 25 Super Bowls. He designed the NFL logo a red, white, and blue shield with the letters NFL. In 1965 Boss began the creative-services division of Properties, which provided design aid to licensees, clients and the teams themselves.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    remember the shea feature paul did?

    well…here’s an update on what they’d like to do with all the pussy there

  • Duckstyle | October 3, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”293115″]thanks for the shot of the Packers helmet with the “Pete” tribute sticker. cool little tribute.
    i didn’t realize the Green Bay helmet stripes were a one piece deal (note the clear edge on the outside of the green stripes).[/quote]

    Also note the almost soft, canary yellow of the older helmets. A good friend of my dad’s that’s now deceased, had a game worn Chuck Cecil from that era and in real life the color was kinda drab. I definitly prefer the glittery color of todays’ Packers helmets, it really pops.

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”293116″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/Redskins/Kilmer1975.jpg
    The Kilmer photo is from the ’75 HOF Game in Canton.[/quote]
    Was the Bicentennial patch only worn during the first (Hall of Fame Game) and last (Super Bowl X) games of the 1975 season?

  • LarenR | October 3, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    Man, that is one angry apple! I hope they put it on the cap. I’ve always liked when a uniform element is wearing a uniform element. It creates that Escher, stanting-between-two-mirrors, infinite repetition effect (I know, there’s no actual logo on the apple’s pan/cap, but I like the principle).

  • Brian | October 3, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    I’m probably late to this but I knew it was all over for the Cubbies last night when they decided to wear their batting practice jerseys for the game. Why do “traditional” teams insist on doing this (I know, I know, $$$) but c’mon, this is post-season. Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs. Whenever I see the cubs in their blues, I expect to see a keg at second base!

  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    Maybe the picture for the lede entry is stretched, but it appears that Stover is wearing a bicycle helmet. Long at the back. Almost an aerodynamic look. Anyone else?

  • Collin | October 3, 2008 at 12:41 pm |
  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”293122″]I’m probably late to this but I knew it was all over for the Cubbies last night when they decided to wear their batting practice jerseys for the game. Why do “traditional” teams insist on doing this (I know, I know, $$$) but c’mon, this is post-season. Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs. Whenever I see the cubs in their blues, I expect to see a keg at second base![/quote]

    The reason they wore their alternate blues last night is because Zambrano prefers that jersey over the traditional pins or road grays. It’s not a money deal so much as it is a pitcher preference. They may wear them again Saturday, because Harden likes them, too. I know I made a comment last night about Z being pulled. It was made out of frustration. Z pitched a good ballgame, but the errors did not help his cause.

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”293122″]I’m probably late to this but I knew it was all over for the Cubbies last night when they decided to wear their batting practice jerseys for the game. Why do “traditional” teams insist on doing this (I know, I know, $$$) but c’mon, this is post-season. Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs. Whenever I see the cubs in their blues, I expect to see a keg at second base![/quote]
    Starting pitcher chooses the jerseys they wear. Zambrano loves the blue ones, so they always wear them when he pitches (except for last year when the team did not wear them at all).

    Rich Harden’s pitching tomorrow, so they should at least be dressed respectably in LA.

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”293125″][quote comment=”293122″]I’m probably late to this but I knew it was all over for the Cubbies last night when they decided to wear their batting practice jerseys for the game. Why do “traditional” teams insist on doing this (I know, I know, $$$) but c’mon, this is post-season. Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs. Whenever I see the cubs in their blues, I expect to see a keg at second base![/quote]

    The reason they wore their alternate blues last night is because Zambrano prefers that jersey over the traditional pins or road grays. It’s not a money deal so much as it is a pitcher preference. They may wear them again Saturday, because Harden likes them, too. I know I made a comment last night about Z being pulled. It was made out of frustration. Z pitched a good ballgame, but the errors did not help his cause.[/quote]
    Damn it! You’re right. Harden likes the pins at home and the alts on the road.

  • tom farley | October 3, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    “The minor league Fort Wayne [Indiana] Wizards are moving into a new ballpark and have decided to change their name, becoming the Fort Wayne Tin Caps (a reference to Johnny Appleseed, who’s buried in Ft. Wayne),” reports the pseudonymous Sean Bratton. “The team has now become the laughingstock of the town, soon to be playing in a new downtown stadium no one wanted.
    Schadenfreude, thy name is … well, mine.

    Before they were the Fort Wayne Wizards, they were the Kenosha Twins (1985-92). Many of the ’91 champs came through Kenosha on their way up. Then, in ’92, some a–hole dentist bought the team and moved ’em to Fort Wayne. I wonder if he still owns the team …

    And as for disputing whether “no one wanted” the Fort Wayne stadium … while that might be overstating it (I can’t say), there are still people angry up here over the taxpayer-funded aspect of Miller Park, which opened in 2001. It has mostly died off, but people stayed angry about that for a long time.

  • tom farley | October 3, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    Maybe the picture for the lede entry is stretched, but it appears that Stover is wearing a bicycle helmet. Long at the back. Almost an aerodynamic look. Anyone else?
    I’m 99 percent certain the picture is stretched, Justin.

  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”293129″]Maybe the picture for the lede entry is stretched, but it appears that Stover is wearing a bicycle helmet. Long at the back. Almost an aerodynamic look. Anyone else?
    I’m 99 percent certain the picture is stretched,Justin.[/quote]

    Oh, I know he isn’t wearing one. It just looks kinda funny to me.

  • KT | October 3, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”293122″]I’m probably late to this but I knew it was all over for the Cubbies last night when they decided to wear their batting practice jerseys for the game. Why do “traditional” teams insist on doing this (I know, I know, $$$) but c’mon, this is post-season. Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs. Whenever I see the cubs in their blues, I expect to see a keg at second base![/quote]

    Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. Which were not used last year, despite Zambrano’s love for them. They came back this year.

    Given his petulance and lack of ability to be anything remotely approaching an ace, I’d say he can fark off and wear white at home and gray on the road like everybody else.

    And I’ve tried to close the bold tag, but it ain’t happening.

  • The Hemogoblin | October 3, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    Let’s fix the bold!

  • Johnny O | October 3, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”293132″][quote comment=”293122″]I’m probably late to this but I knew it was all over for the Cubbies last night when they decided to wear their batting practice jerseys for the game. Why do “traditional” teams insist on doing this (I know, I know, $$$) but c’mon, this is post-season. Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs. Whenever I see the cubs in their blues, I expect to see a keg at second base![/quote]

    Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. Which were not used last year, despite Zambrano’s love for them. They came back this year.

    Given his petulance and lack of ability to be anything remotely approaching an ace, I’d say he can fark off and wear white at home and gray on the road like everybody else.

    And I’ve tried to close the bold tag, but it ain’t happening.[/quote]

    Just for comparison:

    Cubs Blue Alts:
    http://assets.espn.g...

    Cubs BP Jersey:
    http://www.sportsopo...

  • John Zajac | October 3, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    Forgive me if I’ve missed this one and it’s really old news… but do these really exist?? At least they’re ugly enough that even Oregon doesn’t want us to see them…

    http://a712.g.akamai...

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”293127″]
    Damn it! You’re right. Harden likes the pins at home and the alts on the road.[/quote]
    …but not always. So there’s cause for hope.

    Yes. At this point my only hope is that my team at least looks good when as they watch the Dodgers’ celebrate the final out of the series.

  • tom farley | October 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    Oh, I know he isn’t wearing one. It just looks kinda funny to me.
    It caught my eye, too.

    It’s an interesting phenomenon, letting the starting pitcher choose the uni of the day. But then, baseball players are notoriously superstitious; the study cited in this article suggests that trying to hit a round bat with a round ball will do that to a person.

    http://www.chicagotr...

  • Brian | October 3, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    “Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. ”

    I know, I exaggerate for effect.

  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    Good news for Mets fans?
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”293138″]”Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. ”

    I know, I exaggerate for effect.[/quote]
    Right. They’re obviously T-Ball jerseys.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”293139″]Good news for Mets fans?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    that’s an oxymoron

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”293140″][quote comment=”293138″]”Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. ”

    I know, I exaggerate for effect.[/quote]
    Right. They’re obviously T-Ball jerseys.[/quote]

    what’s with the little dude in the phillies jersey in the front row? did he sneak into the pic?

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”293140″]Right. They’re obviously T-Ball jerseys.[/quote]
    I’m fighting the urge to make an Engelberg reference…

  • Duckstyle | October 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”293141″][quote comment=”293139″]Good news for Mets fans?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    that’s an oxymoron[/quote]

    Pvt. Jamaal Montgomery: You can’t say that. That is a diss. I ain’t no ox moron.
    Bill Rago: No, no, no not ox moron, schmuck; oxymoron.

  • Mr. Met | October 3, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”293142″][quote comment=”293140″][quote comment=”293138″]”Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. ”

    I know, I exaggerate for effect.[/quote]
    Right. They’re obviously T-Ball jerseys.[/quote]

    what’s with the little dude in the phillies jersey in the front row? did he sneak into the pic?[/quote]

    Is this going to turn into another “guess the mystery player” ala the All-Star game photo?

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm |

    The Pittsburgh Pirates fired their long-time clubbie, Roger Wilson….

    http://www.pittsburg...

  • Can't Shake that Billygoat Curse | October 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”293141″][quote comment=”293139″]Good news for Mets fans?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    that’s an oxymoron[/quote]

    Of course. There’s only one thing that could possibly be “good news” for the Mets: ditching the black. OK, maybe not the only thing, but it would be a nice start.

    Anyhoo, Valentine’s day is gone. Certainly there are other capable candidates out there.

  • Mike | October 3, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”293101″]Hilarious take by Ray Ratto on the Warriors mascot and the OKC choice.

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    More on the Warriors being forced to lose Thunder.
    http://www.goldensta...
    My take on why they are not fighting it is.
    The warriors had stopped using the Thunder logo awhile ago. They told the NBA they wanted to switch to just the W logo as their primary. The NBA said it would cost the warriors $50,000 to switch. The warriors said forget it, so they just stopped using it in their arena and marketing. This part is fact. That is why you see the thunder logo used when on ESPN or stuff, but never see it in any warriors marketing anymore.
    My guess is the NBA dropped the fee to make the switch in change for the warriors ditching Thunder all together.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”293143″][quote comment=”293140″]Right. They’re obviously T-Ball jerseys.[/quote]
    I’m fighting the urge to make an Engelberg reference…[/quote]

    dude’s got a myspace page

    get your gear on, and get your fat ass behind the plate before I kick it up there!

  • Daniel | October 3, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    I had just heard that Evgeni Malkin was named an altenate captain for the Penguins this season. That means updating my jersey. Anyone know of a good site where I could buy just the “A” patch for my Malkin jersey?

  • dwight | October 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”293144″][quote comment=”293141″][quote comment=”293139″]Good news for Mets fans?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    that’s an oxymoron[/quote]

    Pvt. Jamaal Montgomery: You can’t say that. That is a diss. I ain’t no ox moron.
    Bill Rago: No, no, no not ox moron, schmuck; oxymoron.[/quote]

    Nice “Renaissance Man” pull duckstyle – Ghost in da hood huhuhuh.

  • tom farley | October 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    And I owe an apology to lwiedy for calling him twiedy … several times.

    LI Phil, I thought yours was Lil Phil for a while. I’d like to blame the font, but the manly thing would be for me to admit that I need to enlarge the type when I’m poring over the posts. :)

  • Jim MI | October 3, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”293150″]I had just heard that Evgeni Malkin was named an altenate captain for the Penguins this season. That means updating my jersey. Anyone know of a good site where I could buy just the “A” patch for my Malkin jersey?[/quote]

    What color is the jersey? White, Black? RBK? Not RBK?

    Ebay usually has lettering kits….

  • chance | October 3, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”293144″][quote comment=”293141″][quote comment=”293139″]Good news for Mets fans?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    that’s an oxymoron[/quote]

    Pvt. Jamaal Montgomery: You can’t say that. That is a diss. I ain’t no ox moron.
    Bill Rago: No, no, no not ox moron, schmuck; oxymoron.[/quote]

    Angelo “Snaps” Provolone: He’s right – you are an ox, and you are a moron!

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”293152″]And I owe an apology to lwiedy for calling him twiedy … several times.

    LI Phil, I thought yours was Lil Phil for a while. I’d like to blame the font, but the manly thing would be for me to admit that I need to enlarge the type when I’m poring over the posts. :)[/quote]

    when you enlarge the font, Lil Phil isn’t any more

    /no worries…you’re only about the 30th one to make that mistake… ;)

  • Mark | October 3, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.

  • scott | October 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    I’m happy to see the Phillies remain consistent with their alternate uniforms, wearing them only during day games and back to the regular home uniforms last night.

    The Red Sox have the alternate solid red jerseys to wear at home, but I don’t think they’ve ever donned them in the postseason. The Cubs, as a traditional franchise, probably shouldn’t wear their alts in the postseason, either.

  • Big John | October 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]

    Looks like someone else is trying to get banned.

  • Tyler | October 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”293135″]Forgive me if I’ve missed this one and it’s really old news… but do these really exist?? At least they’re ugly enough that even Oregon doesn’t want us to see them…

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    Yes, those really exist. As do these:

    [url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/Coheed2/oregon2.jpg[/url]

    I stumbled across them on Eastbay’s website, and supposedly they are this season’s new shorts, along with the other 4 pairs they have (white, green, black, and yellow). There is a jersey to match, which is all camouflage, and the other is yellow, with camouflage in the stripe, the same as the shorts.

    Forgive me for saying this, but I actually like them. Oregon is doing what no other school has really done as of yet, and that is push the limits on athletic uniforms. I’m not as keen about the full camouflage shorts, as I am with the yellow, but you can guarantee I will be purchasing one of the pairs when my size is in stock.

  • chance | October 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]
    Must respectfully disagree. Not laugh-out-loud funny, but charming. Part of his voice.

  • Tyler | October 3, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    ^^Don’t know what happened to the link up there, here it is again.

    http://img.photobuck...

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]
    Like with most humor, timing is everything. When used sparingly, and in a good spot (like today’s GSW ticker note), it has been very funny. But sometimes, like in last week’s UW Political Debate post-mortem, it became — as other posters conveyed — tired and overkill.

    (Cue LI Phil’s animated dead horse jpeg.)

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    [Harry Doyle] He’s not the best colorman in the league for nothing, folks! [/Harry Doyle]

  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]

    I like it. It’s like his inner-dialog.

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”293153″][quote comment=”293150″]I had just heard that Evgeni Malkin was named an altenate captain for the Penguins this season. That means updating my jersey. Anyone know of a good site where I could buy just the “A” patch for my Malkin jersey?[/quote]

    What color is the jersey? White, Black? RBK? Not RBK?

    Ebay usually has lettering kits….[/quote]
    And if you have no luck there, these guys ought to be able to help you out. If nothing else, they can probably point you in the right direction.

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”293165″]It’s like his inner-dialog.[/quote]
    Well said.

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”293162″][quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]
    Like with most humor, timing is everything. When used sparingly, and in a good spot (like today’s GSW ticker note), it has been very funny. But sometimes, like in last week’s UW Political Debate post-mortem, it became — as other posters conveyed — tired and overkill.

    (Cue LI Phil’s animated dead horse jpeg.)[/quote]

    That work’s good, but I prefer this… http://img.photobuck...

  • Barney | October 3, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.

  • Jim MI | October 3, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”293166″][quote comment=”293153″][quote comment=”293150″]I had just heard that Evgeni Malkin was named an altenate captain for the Penguins this season. That means updating my jersey. Anyone know of a good site where I could buy just the “A” patch for my Malkin jersey?[/quote]

    What color is the jersey? White, Black? RBK? Not RBK?

    Ebay usually has lettering kits….[/quote]
    And if you have no luck there, these guys ought to be able to help you out. If nothing else, they can probably point you in the right direction.[/quote]

    Is he going to have the ‘A’ the whole season? Or is he just going to have it while Gonchar and Whitney are out? If he’s only a replacement for injured players, I wouldn’t get it. Just my two cents…

  • cpultz | October 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    Kansas State’s Athletics Dept. released their October newsletter on their website yesterday. if you haven’t heard, there is a 6 page section about the Football Equipment Room full of color photos. It even talks about some “behind the scenes” stuff. Thought of you right away.

    Here’s a link to the PDF:

    http://www.kstatespo...

  • Daniel | October 3, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    The jersey I have is the home black. Also looking into last year’s Winter Classic, which I wish they’d make their third jersey if they haven’t done so yet.

    Malkin’s going to have the “A”, along with Orpik, the whole season I belive. Brooks Orpik, I’d imagine, would give the alternate role back to Sergi when he comes back though.

  • BurghFan | October 3, 2008 at 3:15 pm |

    Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs.

    Alas, they wore the alts in game 4 of the Cleveland series, where I found them totally unreadable. (I can’t tell you if they appeared in any other games.)

  • Mike Engle | October 3, 2008 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”293173″]Even the Celtics were smart enough to put away their alternates for the playoffs.

    Alas, they wore the alts in game 4 of the Cleveland series, where I found them totally unreadable. (I can’t tell you if they appeared in any other games.)[/quote]
    No. They wore them every single goddamn away game in the Atlanta series, and eventually realized that they are surely not blessed by the uni gods.

  • Tony B | October 3, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    I wouldn’t call the person who wrote the “black Marxist” post a racist.

    Seems to me there are a lot of really sensitive UW readers out there.

    I find their responses much more telling and offensive than the original poster.

  • The Hemogoblin | October 3, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.

  • Jim MI | October 3, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”293172″]The jersey I have is the home black. Also looking into last year’s Winter Classic, which I wish they’d make their third jersey if they haven’t done so yet.

    Malkin’s going to have the “A”, along with Orpik, the whole season I belive. Brooks Orpik, I’d imagine, would give the alternate role back to Sergi when he comes back though.[/quote]

    Don’t know, he’s the longest Tenured penguin and he’s alot more vocal I’ve heard in the Locker room. But I would bet too that Malkin would keep it.

  • Teebz | October 3, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    I was reading Ray Scapinello’s book on my flight home from way up north, and they make a reference to the guy who dresses up as team officials and/or and gets himself onto the field of play.

    He tried to get on the ice in Detroit as an official, and the officials had security toss him from the arena before he ever made it on the ice.

    Scapinello, one of the guys going into the Hockey Hall of Fame, was one of the three officials who got him tossed.

  • Daniel | October 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    That’s why I’d think for the time being Orpik would be the alternate. Gonchar is really the defensive leader so I’d imagine when he returns he becomes the alternate.

    Back to a uniform side of the Pens, I got an NHL Shop magazine the other day, and wondered if the Pens’ have had the following practice jersey or if they’re rolling it out for this year:

    http://shop.nhl.com/...

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”293176″][quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.[/quote]

    sweet

  • Denis | October 3, 2008 at 3:57 pm |
  • The Hemogoblin | October 3, 2008 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”293180″][quote comment=”293176″][quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.[/quote]

    sweet[/quote]

    To cap the earlier comment, the homecoming is a big deal this year for some reason. Let’s hope we beat USC, then the Pac-10 is ours!

  • Chris | October 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]
    How dare you question the great Comrade Lukas! His leadership of the glorious Soviet Union Uniwatch has been an inspiration to all comrades. Спасибо, товарищ Лукас.

  • Daniel | October 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”293181″]Ouch
    http://shop.nhl.com/...

    Yeech. Couldn’t they have gone with the norm pink? I mean I love the charitable aspects here, but come on, that tie they’re selling could blind someone.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”293178″]I was reading Ray Scapinello’s book on my flight home from way up north, and they make a reference to the guy who dresses up as team officials and/or and gets himself onto the field of play.

    He tried to get on the ice in Detroit as an official, and the officials had security toss him from the arena before he ever made it on the ice.

    Scapinello, one of the guys going into the Hockey Hall of Fame, was one of the three officials who got him tossed.[/quote]
    Dude, there’s stuff North of you? I kid.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”293180″][quote comment=”293176″][quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.[/quote]

    sweet[/quote]
    Wait, isn’t Obama’s Brother-in-law the Oregon St. hoops coach?

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”293185″][quote comment=”293178″]I was reading Ray Scapinello’s book on my flight home from way up north, and they make a reference to the guy who dresses up as team officials and/or and gets himself onto the field of play.

    He tried to get on the ice in Detroit as an official, and the officials had security toss him from the arena before he ever made it on the ice.

    Scapinello, one of the guys going into the Hockey Hall of Fame, was one of the three officials who got him tossed.[/quote]
    Dude, there’s stuff North of you? I kid.[/quote]

    the pole

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]

    fixed

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    Now THAT’S funny!

  • Maks | October 3, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    You love the NLDS/ALDS so much that you really want to get the hat that shows both team: Your Team vs. Other Team.

    Geez…

  • Justin in AR | October 3, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”293186″][quote comment=”293180″][quote comment=”293176″][quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.[/quote]

    sweet[/quote]
    Wait, isn’t Obama’s Brother-in-law the Oregon St. hoops coach?[/quote]

    Yup. Craig Robinson.

  • Al | October 3, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”293190″]You love the NLDS/ALDS so much that you really want to get the hat that shows both team: Your Team vs. Other Team.

    Geez…[/quote]
    I like how they used the old (read: better) Brewers logo.

    Also, lucky for New Era, the Phils and Brewers, Dodgers and Cubs, Sox and Angels all share a color. Rays and White Sox, however, force them into the blah stone-color hat.

  • Lwiedy | October 3, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”293120″][quote comment=”293116″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/Redskins/Kilmer1975.jpg
    The Kilmer photo is from the ’75 HOF Game in Canton.[/quote]
    Was the Bicentennial patch only worn during the first (Hall of Fame Game) and last (Super Bowl X) games of the 1975 season?[/quote]

    It’s the only times I’ve seen them in the NFL. The Bengals wore them too in that HOF game.

  • chance | October 3, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”293192″][quote comment=”293190″]You love the NLDS/ALDS so much that you really want to get the hat that shows both team: Your Team vs. Other Team.

    Geez…[/quote]
    I like how they used the old (read: better) Brewers logo.
    [/quote]

    Me, too. Wish they had a Wild Card cap with that logo – I had to break my eight-year ban on Brewers merchandise.

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”293192″]Rays and White Sox, however, force them into the blah stone-color hat.[/quote]
    They got somewhat creative with the use of the old Brewers logo to make the colors work on that one. They could have just gone with a navy blue cap and one of the old Sox logos.

  • Maks | October 3, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”293195″][quote comment=”293192″]Rays and White Sox, however, force them into the blah stone-color hat.[/quote]
    They got somewhat creative with the use of the old Brewers logo to make the colors work on that one. They could have just gone with a navy blue cap and one of the old Sox logos.[/quote]

    AGREED!

  • The Hemogoblin | October 3, 2008 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”293186″][quote comment=”293180″][quote comment=”293176″][quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.[/quote]

    sweet[/quote]
    Wait, isn’t Obama’s Brother-in-law the Oregon St. hoops coach?[/quote]

    And? They’re on like a 40 game losing streak in the Pac-10. Ever seen Gill Coliseum? There’s more Jehovah’s Witness conventions than there are Beaver wins in that place each year.

    [quote comment=”293195″][quote comment=”293192″]Rays and White Sox, however, force them into the blah stone-color hat.[/quote]
    They got somewhat creative with the use of the old Brewers logo to make the colors work on that one. They could have just gone with a navy blue cap and one of the old Sox logos.[/quote]

    Tangent shift: I completely agree. But hey, it’s Bud Selig after all, and I’m not exactly sure he’s got a grasp on ANYTHING.

  • =bg= | October 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”293073″]Is Joe Montana wearing baseball cleats in this photo?[/quote]
    I think they must be. Mizuno wasn’t doing NFL shoes then (as now.) Pete Rose wore something similiar, I think.

  • Jamie | October 3, 2008 at 6:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    Paul ftw. Also, I think the strikethrough joke is very funny.

  • Robert | October 3, 2008 at 7:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”293175″]I wouldn’t call the person who wrote the “black Marxist” post a racist.

    Seems to me there are a lot of really sensitive UW readers out there.

    I find their responses much more telling and offensive than the original poster.[/quote]

    I don’t think it’s overly sensitive to log on to Uniwatch and talk about uniforms rather than hear someone rant about politics. It’s not like there’s a shortage of sites where I can get political stuff.

    As far as whether it was racist or not, why wasn’t “Marxist” enough for him that he had to add “black” to it? Sorry but I agree it was racist.

  • Mike Engle | October 3, 2008 at 7:01 pm |

    Back to the original topic, shall we nominate Matt Stover’s jersey as the ugliest in the League? All purple aside, he has managed to cover up the beautiful flag shield sleeve patch the Ravens have with a “strip” stripe that doesn’t make its way around the sleeve. Yuck-o. Why couldn’t Stover get himself a cloth wristband with a GU63 (with or without the NFL Equipment logo) and call it a day?

  • Mike Engle | October 3, 2008 at 7:03 pm |

    Following up to myself…how did I miss the fact the black arm blob conveniently misses a Reebok logo?
    There have definitely been better-looking tributes in the history of sports than this one.

  • Ricko | October 3, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”293198″][quote comment=”293073″]Is Joe Montana wearing baseball cleats in this photo?[/quote]
    I think they must be. Mizuno wasn’t doing NFL shoes then (as now.) Pete Rose wore something similiar, I think.[/quote]

    They weren’t baseball shoes. For a while there, Mizuno tried to make inroads into the football gamewear biz. They at least had molded bottoms ala soccer shoes. No way steel baseball spikes are legal in football, NFL or otherwise. Guys’d be bleeding all over the place.

    Same shoes on Roger Craig, p. 35, this issue of SI.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 3, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”293199″][quote comment=”293090″][quote comment=”293070″]Typical America in the 21st Century. We’re about to elect a black Marxist as President, and Gene Upshaw is memorialized an ENTIRE season by every NFL team.[/quote]

    Congrats, you just got yourself banned from the site. No, not because I disagree with your politics (or because you clearly don’t know what a Marxist is), but because you’re a racist scumbag.[/quote]

    Paul ftw. Also, I think the strikethrough joke is very funny.[/quote]

    Nobody asked but, it isn’t the “black Marxist” remark so much (Obama IS black, and “Marxist”, well, I guess that’s an opinion), it’s the tone of the whole paragraph. Sounds like what he really wanted to say was, “This country’s goin’ to hell cuz we’re letting’ black folks get WAY too important. Pass me my clean hood, willya, Bubba.”

  • BuckeyeMark | October 3, 2008 at 8:47 pm |

    not uni related (or political) but is anybody else totally loving the way TBS is showing the batter’s “here is what he’s done today at the plate” line by simulating the scorer’s book? imo, this is a very good thing as many today cannot score baseball. it’s bound to create more interest in this wonderful part of baseball.

  • Daniel | October 3, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    with his little bailout, id say bush is more of a marxist than obama.

    anyway, to that comment: the issue is not that the nfl is bad for honoring a black guy. is it bad for mlb to honor jackie robinson? the fact of the matter is there honoring a union leader, which is odd because upshaw was always at odds with the nfl and not technically affiliated with the nfl. now, why so much memorial for him instead of other prominent football leaders? youd have to ask the nfl. are these gestures are racially motivated? perhaps, youd have to ask the nfl. it goes without saying this is very fishy looking at the nfl’s track record

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”293197″][quote comment=”293186″][quote comment=”293180″][quote comment=”293176″][quote comment=”293169″]I just saw that Oregon is calling for a “Yell-O” out at their homecoming game against UCLA… Could that mean that their new uniforms will actually be solid yellow? Or does it just mean that they are going to wear their regular all yellow uniforms? I’m going with the latter of the two. If they do unveil new uniforms this season, it won’t be till the Oregon St. game or the bowl game. Their last two new uniforms were unveiled at the 2003 Sun Bowl and the 2005 Civil war respectively.[/quote]

    Dude, they’re doing it. As a U of O student, I’ve gotten the facebook note… gonna get tickets this Sunday. Long live homecoming.[/quote]

    sweet[/quote]
    Wait, isn’t Obama’s Brother-in-law the Oregon St. hoops coach?[/quote]

    And? They’re on like a 40 game losing streak in the Pac-10. Ever seen Gill Coliseum? There’s more Jehovah’s Witness conventions than there are Beaver wins in that place each year.

    [quote comment=”293195″][quote comment=”293192″]Rays and White Sox, however, force them into the blah stone-color hat.[/quote]
    They got somewhat creative with the use of the old Brewers logo to make the colors work on that one. They could have just gone with a navy blue cap and one of the old Sox logos.[/quote]

    Tangent shift: I completely agree. But hey, it’s Bud Selig after all, and I’m not exactly sure he’s got a grasp on ANYTHING.[/quote]
    I’m just sayin’…Barack starts wearing that Nike U. jersey around, there might be some family drama.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 9:07 pm |

    Oh, before I forget…Happy 57th Anniversary to Bobby Thomson and Happy 57th B-Day to Dave Winfield.

  • =bg= | October 3, 2008 at 9:09 pm |

    As UC Class of 84, I am embarrassed at the unis of the Bearcats now on ESPN. And why does the headset of one of the coaches have….a Pepsi logo?

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 9:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”293209″]As UC Class of 84, I am embarrassed at the unis of the Bearcats now on ESPN. And why does the headset of one of the coaches have….a Pepsi logo?[/quote]
    Those unis are really awful. Even more awful, Marshall has a RB named Chubb Small!

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”293210″][quote comment=”293209″]As UC Class of 84, I am embarrassed at the unis of the Bearcats now on ESPN. And why does the headset of one of the coaches have….a Pepsi logo?[/quote]
    Those unis are really awful. Even more awful, Marshall has a RB named Chubb Small![/quote]
    So I take it this is a “whiteout” game?

    By the way Thundering Herd is by far my favorite NCAA nickname. Hell, it might be my favorite sports nickname, period.

  • Terri | October 3, 2008 at 9:29 pm |

    Ok, while I’m glad the Marshall fans actually went along with the white out thing (im go to Marshall, and apparently they try this every so often and it’s never worked before), WHY didn’t they choose to wear their whites? Or they could’ve done a green-out. Now it just looks like everyone’s rooting for Cincy.

  • Terri | October 3, 2008 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”293211″][quote comment=”293210″][quote comment=”293209″]As UC Class of 84, I am embarrassed at the unis of the Bearcats now on ESPN. And why does the headset of one of the coaches have….a Pepsi logo?[/quote]
    Those unis are really awful. Even more awful, Marshall has a RB named Chubb Small![/quote]
    So I take it this is a “whiteout” game?

    By the way Thundering Herd is by far my favorite NCAA nickname. Hell, it might be my favorite sports nickname, period.[/quote]

    The thundering herd was actually my high school’s nickname and our colors were green and white…then I come to grad school at marshall, and it’s exactly the same, which worked out great for me cuz I can recycle all my h.s. tshirts.

  • KT | October 3, 2008 at 9:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”293156″]Lukas, that whole strikethrough joke you constantly use just isn’t funny. It’s actually annoying as hell. I advise you to knock it off.[/quote]

    I want my free beer in a frosted mug, damn you! A FROSTED MUG!

  • =bg= | October 3, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    Warriors dump mascot due to OKC Thunder

    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • KT | October 3, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”293206″]with his little bailout, id say bush is more of a marxist than obama.

    anyway, to that comment: the issue is not that the nfl is bad for honoring a black guy. is it bad for mlb to honor jackie robinson? [/quote]

    No, but they have gone overboard on that as well. I expect a team to be renamed in his honor on April 15, 2047.

  • KT | October 3, 2008 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”293215″]Warriors dump mascot due to OKC Thunder

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    Got any news on the Hindenburg?

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 10:07 pm |

    gene upshaw was no jackie robinson

    and dan quayle was no jack kennedy

    /just sayin’

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote]“This country’s goin’ to hell cuz we’re letting’ black folks get WAY too important. Pass me my clean hood, willya, Bubba.”[/quote]

    you were just dying to say that, eh ricko? ;)

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”293205″]not uni related (or political) but is anybody else totally loving the way TBS is showing the batter’s “here is what he’s done today at the plate” line by simulating the scorer’s book? imo, this is a very good thing as many today cannot score baseball. it’s bound to create more interest in this wonderful part of baseball.[/quote]
    Yeah. I totally dig that.

    Can’t say that I agree it’ll drum up interest. I’m sure it won’t hurt, though. Either way, I think it’s a great visual gimmick.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2008 at 10:18 pm |

    Mets by the Numbers is reporting a rumor, citing Chris Creamer’s site, that “the Mets as expected are phasing out black … in favor of blue but have the biggest changes in mind for their road uniform, said to be completely re-imagined in a charcoal gray … with Mets in script …. The message continues: Interestingly there is absolutely no black on this uniform whatsoever – and I was told that the blue/orange/white color combination jumps off this uniform with incredible success. Blue/Orange/White piping will also be on the ends of the sleeves, down the front of the jersey, and down the pant legs as well.”

    Anyone else seen/heard anything about this?

  • Ricko | October 3, 2008 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”293219″][quote]“This country’s goin’ to hell cuz we’re letting’ black folks get WAY too important. Pass me my clean hood, willya, Bubba.”[/quote]

    you were just dying to say that, eh ricko? ;)[/quote]

    What can I say, some people might as well just have “I R STUPID” tattooed across their foreheads. Would save the rest of us from having to listen to what comes out of their mouths to make that determination.

    Just another example of a loser white guy wanting to blame someone for his lot in life…instead of looking in the mirror for the answer.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”293220″][quote comment=”293205″]not uni related (or political) but is anybody else totally loving the way TBS is showing the batter’s “here is what he’s done today at the plate” line by simulating the scorer’s book? imo, this is a very good thing as many today cannot score baseball. it’s bound to create more interest in this wonderful part of baseball.[/quote]
    Yeah. I totally dig that.

    Can’t say that I agree it’ll drum up interest.

    I’m sure it won’t hurt, though. Either way, I think it’s a great visual gimmick.[/quote]

    one of the few good things about SNY (mets) broadcasts, is they have been doing that all year…i agree with JTH in that it prolly wont drum up any interest whatsoever…i’ve known how to score since before my first little league game, but having watched some games with people who either can’t or don’t know how to score games, they don’t have a CLUE what it is…

    i have tried to ‘splain it, but it’s really a lost cause…the only way to really teach someone to keep score is to do it live, at a actual game

    /btw…did you guys know larry (Lwiedy) is one of the official scorers for the TB rays?…how fuckin’ awesome is that?

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote]the biggest changes in mind for their road uniform, said to be completely re-imagined in a charcoal gray … with Mets in script …. [/quote]

    you’re not shitting us, are ya graf? no black? i may have died and gone to heaven…

    so the aways would sorta look like this…only darker?

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 10:43 pm |

    I think Torii Hunter may have just performed a “Gramatica”.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2008 at 10:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”293224″][quote]the biggest changes in mind for their road uniform, said to be completely re-imagined in a charcoal gray … with Mets in script …. [/quote]

    you’re not shitting us, are ya graf? no black? i may have died and gone to heaven…

    so the aways would sorta look like this…only darker?[/quote]

    I’m just relaying the rumor from MBTN. Can’t say I’d be thrilled with a radical redesign of the road jersey, especially since the ’95-97 version is so frickin’ awesome. But let’s see what they come up with…

  • JTH | October 3, 2008 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”293223″]
    /btw…did you guys know larry (Lwiedy) is one of the official scorers for the TB rays?…how fuckin’ awesome is that?[/quote]
    Pretty fuckin’ awesome, indeed.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”293225″]I think Torii Hunter may have just performed a “Gramatica”.[/quote]

    great call stoob…

    so…this equals this

  • Stuby | October 3, 2008 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”293228″][quote comment=”293225″]I think Torii Hunter may have just performed a “Gramatica”.[/quote]

    great call stoob…

    so…this equals this…[/quote]
    Yes, but I think Torii got more amplitude.

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 11:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”293229″][quote comment=”293228″][quote comment=”293225″]I think Torii Hunter may have just performed a “Gramatica”.[/quote]

    great call stoob…

    so…this equals this…[/quote]
    Yes, but I think Torii got more amplitude.[/quote]

    look man…you can listen to jimi but you can’t hear him…there’s a difference man…just because you’re listening to him doesn’t mean you’re hearing him…

  • LI Phil | October 3, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    hand(le) with care?

  • Patrick S. | October 4, 2008 at 12:15 am |

    [quote comment=”293140″][quote comment=”293138″]”Those aren’t their BP jerseys. Those are their alternates. ”

    I know, I exaggerate for effect.[/quote]
    Right. They’re obviously T-Ball jerseys.[/quote]

    Why is the coach on the right wearing a Pop Warner football T-shirt?

  • Dustin | October 4, 2008 at 12:30 am |

    After our look at managers and how they change pitchers, it looks like Francona and Sveum both make the call just as or before they get to the foul line.

    Also, check out the Red Sox pitcher Masterson. He’s got the Todd Jones treatment on his sleeves (right is much shorter than the left) and his red undershirt is showing on the shortened sleeve.

  • Dustin | October 4, 2008 at 12:37 am |

    Not sure if he’s on the list, but the Angels’ Reggie Willits appears to be a double flapper (came on in the bottom of the seventh as a pinch runner).

  • adam | October 4, 2008 at 12:50 am |

    Hey uniwatch, I read the blog and comments all the time but rarely post. Anyway, and it’s a subject that has been touched upon a few times, but does anyone have any information on the alternate hats the red sox wore in the late 90’s? One was a red crown with a white “B” and the other was a white crown with a red “B.” I’d love to get my hands on either if possible. Thanks in advance.

  • Paul Lukas | October 4, 2008 at 12:58 am |

    [quote comment=”293226″][quote comment=”293224″][quote]the biggest changes in mind for their road uniform, said to be completely re-imagined in a charcoal gray … with Mets in script …. [/quote]

    you’re not shitting us, are ya graf? no black? i may have died and gone to heaven…

    so the aways would sorta look like this…only darker?[/quote]

    I’m just relaying the rumor from MBTN. Can’t say I’d be thrilled with a radical redesign of the road jersey, especially since the ’95-97 version is so frickin’ awesome. But let’s see what they come up with…[/quote]

    While I can’t go into specifics, I can say that all the above-mentioned rumors are false and that, for better or worse, next year’s Mets uni set is almost identical to this year’s. Nothing momentous, so don’t get your hopes up (or fears, as the case might be).

  • Al | October 6, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”293223″][quote comment=”293205″]not uni related (or political) but is anybody else totally loving the way TBS is showing the batter’s “here is what he’s done today at the plate” line by simulating the scorer’s book? [/quote]
    one of the few good things about SNY (mets) broadcasts, is they have been doing that all year…[/quote]
    The YES Network has done that the past two seasons, perhaps longer. They even utilize the backwards K; I think Michael Kay is contractually obligated to explain it every time one is on the screen.

  • Al | October 6, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”293221″]but have the biggest changes in mind for their road uniform, said to be completely re-imagined in a charcoal gray … with Mets in script …. The message continues: Interestingly there is absolutely no black on this uniform whatsoever – and I was told that the blue/orange/white color combination jumps off this uniform with incredible success. Blue/Orange/White piping will also be on the ends of the sleeves, down the front of the jersey, and down the pant legs as well.”[/quote]
    I saw this exact jersey at my local Sports Authority (Clifton Commons in NJ) on Saturday afternoon. It was right next to a Yankees jersey of the same color, navy and white piping, with the interlocking NY on the chest. Both were made by Majestic, but I automatically assumed them to be part of the “fashion jerseys” line. Just looked and can’t find it on TSA’s website. Hindsight, I would have taken a picture of them…