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It’s Entirely Possible They Won’t Send Me a Christmas Card This Year

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The truth: Yankee Stadium has never meant that much to me. Part of it is that I’m a Mets fan, and part of it is that the renovated stadium bears little resemblance to the original structure (which I’m old enough to have seen plenty of times on TV, although, unfortunately, I never attended a game there). But the biggest part of it is that the Yankees — and, by extension, the stadium — have become such a loathsome symbol of American corporate excess and jingoism. Even the admirable things about the organization, like the uniforms, have been waved like some idiotic flag of superiority for so long that the underlying tone is bluster, not class. The message emanating from River Ave. and East 161st (esp. the owner’s suite) isn’t “We strive for excellence”; it’s “We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.”

I’d be the first to admit that the place is not without its charms. When you go to a game in the Bronx and hear that live organist and Bob Sheppard’s voice and all that, you think to yourself, “Hey, this is so cool!” But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for every freaking game), you realize that the organ and Sheppard and the postgame Sinatra and all the rest are really just code — they’re signifiers for an era when white America could happily enjoy being the biggest bully on the playground. That’s what the Yankees have always represented: the supremacy of empire, the arrogance of wealth, the strong not just defeating but utterly smashing the weak.

In case you hadn’t noticed, all of those supposed verities have been called into question on the larger American stage lately. Like it or not, a lot of things most people have treated as entitlements for generations (cheap gas, a white-majority populace, the ability to say, “We’re the goddamn United States and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves,” etc.) are changing. Of course, most people don’t like it, and they’d rather be in denial about it than actually deal with it, and few places provide a better oasis from reality than Yankee Stadium, where people can pretend it’s still 1957.

Or at least that’s what it would provide for those people if they could afford to go there. Kind of ironic that the Yanks are passing the torch to a new gold-leafed stadium with ticket prices only corporate execs will be able to afford just a few days after an economic meltdown that no doubt has many corporations rethinking their luxury box expenditures, all while the Yanks are missing the playoffs for the first time in over a decade. If you can’t see the parallels between all of that and America’s willfully oblivious descent down the crapper, well, I hope you have fun driving that SUV of yours.

Such treatises notwithstanding, they put on a good show for the stadium’s farewell. A few notes:

• Nice to see plenty of old-timers in period-appropriate uniforms (although it would’ve been better if Whitey Ford had hiked up his cuffs — that elastic gap was painful to see). And someone please get Yogi an undershirt.

• Biggest surprise of the evening, at least for me: Dave Winfield fills out his uniform a lot more than he used to. Like, a lot more.

• Several hours prior to the game, they let fans walk on the warning track — a nice gesture. A few people apparently indulged their “robbed him of a home run” fantasies, but anyone wearing an NOB replica should be barred from such shenanigans, no?

• Good spot by Larry Wiederecht and L.I. Phil, who noticed that Reggie Jackson was wearing this old N.Y. Giants logo on his cap while being interviewed in the ESPN booth during the game. Earlier, during pregame festivities, he’d shown off a different cap to the world’s single most annoying Yankees fan.

Our own Scott M.X. Turner attended the game, by the way. I expect I’ll have some first-hand observations from him to pass along tomorrow.

Raffle Results: The winner of the Remember the AFL book is John Flanagan. Congrats to him, and everyone else can look forward to the College Vault book raffle, which I’ll crank up tomorrow or Wednesday.

Uni Watch News Ticker: New System of Dress uniforms for Dayton. Here’s the rear view (with thanks to Matthew Hager). … Remember when I raffled off a futuristic Royals jersey a while back? You can get an entire futuristic Royals uniform, including a batting helmet, here. … Interesting advertising hubbub at Wrigley Field (with thanks to James Huening). … Friday’s entry on Lon Keller’s artwork led sports historian Chuck Miller to check in with the following: “I recently discovered that not only did Spencer Advertising create program cover art for colleges and high school sports, their work was also used by semiprofessional basketball teams like those who played in the Eastern League [which later became the Continental Basketball Assocation]. I have found several examples of such art, mostly by artists like Lon Keller, Larry Tisdale, Fred Fixler and the like. They can be viewed at this link on my CBA Museum homepage.” … “I work with the Potomac Nationals, formerly the Alexandria Dukes of 1979-1983,” writes Paul Barrett. “We were affiliated with the Pirates in Alexandria for the ’81-’83 seasons, and I found this little beauty in the storage closet along with other treasures (T-shirts, programs, stat sheets, mini-bats). The tag reads, ‘ Since 1920 • NEW ERA • Custom Made For JOHN GILMORE Sporting Goods • Fairfax, VA • Medium-Large • MFG. in USA.'” … Decent article here about UNLV’s NNOB jerseys (with thanks to John Barnes). … It’s nice that Manny has a mouthguard with his name printed on it, but why is he wearing a mouthguard to begin with? … No, branding isn’t getting way out of hand, not even a little bit (with thanks to Paul Ricciardi). … Lots of old Portland Beavers pics here. … Uni Watch is one of several uni-related media projects mentioned in this article. … Oklahoma State’s getting a new court design (with thanks to Andrew Joseph). … The Canadiens are wearing a 100th-anniversary patch. … Check out these photos of the recent Greer/Greenville game — matching Gs (good spot by Jon Pohlman). … Not sure if we’ve covered these specific examples before, but Baylor has not just one but two roman-numeraled NOBs (with thanks to, appropriately, James Spears IV). … Giants equipment director Joe Skiba has revived his series of video reports. The 2008 season premiere is here. … Aussie rules football fans have chosen their favorite jumper (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm, who also sent pics of the odd diagonal pinstriping worn by the Mitsubishi Electric Diamond Dolphins). … “This is South African rugby player Percy Montgomery wearing a test cap,” writes Caleb Borchers. “Announcers are always talking about someone’s games for the national teams as ‘caps,’ but you rarely see the actual cap any more. Certainly a little on the dorky side, but an interesting uni tradition, particularly because rugby players don’t wear caps on the field. There are links to some other caps here, here, here, and here.” … Interesting info on the Seahawks logo here. … Pictograms for the 2010 winter Olympics will look like this, and there’s a video about the development of the graphics here (courtesy of Jeremy again). … The Sabres’ third jersey is now official (additional photos here). … So is the Blues’ third jersey (more pics here. … Rutgers University: institute of higher learning. … Mike Chamernik notes that Mitch Maier has been wearing one of those extended-earflap facemasks. … Ken Malone has started a new site NFL uni-related site. “Our primary purpose is to get laughs through the medium of NFL uniform details,” he says. I haven’t had a chance to check it out yet, so someone please give it the once-over and give us a full report. … Just what the world needs: a palm swoosh (with thanks to Dave Sizer). … That UGA rear-helmet motif sure is popular (with thanks to Michael Hardman). … Speaking of UGA, they’ll be wearing black this weekend. … Dude, are you wearing pantyhose or what? … Martin Gramatica was wearing his wedding band yesterday. … Man, do I love this. … I’m less fond of this. … How do you make this look good? Have it play against this. Additional crimes against humanity here and here. … “The Hiroshima Toyo Carp are moving into a new stadium next year, and while the stadium is being built, the manhole covers in the area where the new stadium will be have been given Carp designs,” writes Jeremy Brahm. “The funny thing is that they missed a spot — the where the arrow is pointing should be red, to match the undershirt on the right arm. There’s also a one-color version.” … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Check out the uniform on this yearbook vendor. That’s Opening Day at Shea Stadium, 1965. … Morris Levin recently scored a pair of authentic Phillies stirrups, so naturally he wore them to work. Okay, so he didn’t actually wear his pants that way in the office — only for the photo shoot (“I came out of the elevator into PNC’s lobby with my pants hiked up and my friend Peter pretty much fell over on Market St laughing”). But still, if this doesn’t start a casual Friday revolution, I don’t know what will. … Check out this bizarre NOB from a Rangers preseason game. Can anyone think of another NOB that included a mix caps, small cap, and lowercase? I certainly can’t (good spot by Casey Wurzbach, who also noticed some decal peelage at Great American Ballpark). … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Interesting to see that the Seahawks’ Gene Upshaw memorial decals are all partially covered by their neck bumpers (additional examples here, here, and here).

 

431 comments to It’s Entirely Possible They Won’t Send Me a Christmas Card This Year

  • Scott W (San Jose, CA) | September 22, 2008 at 7:53 am |

    Interesting to see Willie Randolph in a Yanks uni again, after so many awkward press conferences in a Mets uni. And good form on that slide

  • pete | September 22, 2008 at 8:07 am |

    Manny is wearing as mouthgaurd this season to cut down on chewing tobacco use. He only chews tobacco in season and especially while at bat, so the idea is to use the mouthgaurd as a replacement. I say good for him.

    Also, I kind of like the Broncos orange jersey. At least it is different and a hint of their past, their blues are very boring.

  • Robert | September 22, 2008 at 8:13 am |

    Have the Texas Rangers worn green jerseys and stirrups on St. Patrick’s Day in recent years? The team is selling game-worn green stirrups at its authentics store at the Ballpark, and I could not remember whether they actually wore such a thing.

  • scott | September 22, 2008 at 8:16 am |

    “But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for every freaking game)”

    The Yankees aren’t alone in this regard. The New Britain Rock Cats continue to play it every seventh inning, and I believe the Pawtucket Red Sox do, too. There are probably others who have made it a staple of the seventh inning stretch.

  • scott | September 22, 2008 at 8:18 am |

    “they’re signifiers for an era when white America could happily enjoy being the biggest bully on the playground.”

    It’s always nice to come to this site and get such wonderful political insight.

  • Robert | September 22, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    I officially apologize to everyone everywhere for living in a suburb, being white, owning a business, investing in the stock market and having a wife who drives an SUV. I am so ashamed.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 8:29 am |

    Well the STL unis didn’t turn out as bad as I thought they would.

    http://blues.nhl.com...

    Always have been a fan of circular logos, and the arch I have been dreading is very subtle. I was hoping they would go with a darker blue than in years past. Kinda wish they went with other pants for this uni though, those things are God Awlful..

    Kinda like those BUF unis? What the hell are those things? Apparantly they were aloud to workout with them on before showing them off because they all had armpit stains on them.

    http://media.buffalo...

    And what is up with thise stripes? They look like Bettman Stripes on crack…

    http://media.canada....

    Arm/waist/socks striping are good, but I cannot stop staring at the pit stains and the cracked out Bettman stripes. Only thing good about this uni is the logo and the lace-up collar.

    Also, all the BUF pants had ‘Reebok’ on them. Is that company getting away from ‘RBK’?

  • Billy | September 22, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    New Yankee Stadium will have plenty of seats that are affordable…

    “Of the non-premium seats, 88 percent will be less than $100,” he said. “It’s easy to say that that’s not cheap, but on the other 55 percent of the ballpark is going to be $45 or less. That’s over 24,000 seats. We recognize everybody can’t afford the suites. At the same time, we’re trying to allow those suite prices to subsidize the other seating in the stadium. Look, the bleachers are $12, will be $12. The grandstand is $20 and $25, will be $20 and $25.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Frank from B-more | September 22, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    I like the Broncos orange jerseys, remind me of the Orange Crush days.
    I am glad I am not the only one who thinks the Yankees needed to get over themselves.
    I remember when SoD was a big deal, now Dayton???? Wow Nike, maybe CCBC-Essex needs new unis too.
    And I personally enjoy driving my Ford Explorer and am willing to pay the cost.

  • =bg= | September 22, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Nike jumps out of the pool;

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • Peter Wunsch | September 22, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    Can we start calling the NHL third jerseys “Opportunity to sell fans more stuff.”

  • Peter Wunsch | September 22, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Yes, Rudy and his starter third wife are annoying, but how annoying was Joba The Hut. he made sure he was in every camnera shot in the dugout with that annoying hat brim.

    Whya re the Yankees and Mets getting any revenue from the sale of ballpark memorabilia. If NYC owns the park, don’t they own the seats, foul poles, urinals, etc.?

  • Scott | September 22, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    No less than SIX Nike logos on display on that Oklahoma player. How cool is he?! (not very)

  • Michael M. | September 22, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”290695″]Manny is wearing as mouthgaurd this season to cut down on chewing tobacco use. He only chews tobacco in season and especially while at bat, so the idea is to use the mouthgaurd as a replacement. I say good for him.

    Also, I kind of like the Broncos orange jersey. At least it is different and a hint of their past, their blues are very boring.[/quote]

    Actually, Manny’s mouthguard is much more high tech. Supposedly it puts the mouth in an optimal “relaxed” position and cost a lot.

    http://fenwaywest.bl...

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”290707″]Whya re the Yankees and Mets getting any revenue from the sale of ballpark memorabilia. If NYC owns the park, don’t they own the seats, foul poles, urinals, etc.?[/quote]

    Actually, the city is getting 70% of the proceeds from sales of stuff from Shea. The rest is going to the Mets foundation.

    And a lot of Shea’s materials (plumbing fixtures, wire, etc.) will be reused by the Parks Dept. elsewehre in the city.

    I don’t know for sure, but I assume something similar is planned for Yankee Stadium.

  • John Livewell | September 22, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    As a Phillies phan…therefore a defacto “National Leaguer”…I have no official opinion of the Yankees other than to agree with part of what you said Paul. The Yankee players today do not start to be the “posterboys” for machismo until the individual attitudes of the “nation” make them so. It doesn’t hurt that the ESPN LOOOOOOOVESSSSSSS the Yankee-nation and the machismo.

    Almost very sports team that resides in a nations largest city gets this treatment…NY for the last 90 years.

    I must say that it was great to see Dave Winfield, Reggie and Bernie Williams in pinstripes again. Just as they tore down Veteran’s Stadium…I will never forget seeing my childhood heros in Philles gear again…Carlton, Schmidt, McGraw……Shane Rawley (syke…)

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    [quote]It’s nice that Manny has a mouthguard with his name printed on it, but why is he wearing a mouthguard to begin with?[/quote]

    he’s been tipping his pitches

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote]“We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.”[/quote]

    can the ‘comment of the day’ award actually go to a tan box, in the lead?

    i say, “YES”

  • Stuby | September 22, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”290704″]Can we start calling the NHL third jerseys “Opportunity to sell fans more stuff.”[/quote]
    Or in Buffalo’s case (both teams), “We are admitting that our current uniforms suck, but are too stupid to make a complete overhaul”

  • Greg | September 22, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    “If you can’t see the parallels between all of that and America’s willfully oblivious descent down the crapper, well, I hope you have fun driving that SUV of yours.”

    Wow someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. This was such a nasty post Paul, are you just upset because Shea isn’t getting the same send off? I don’t exactly understand how being a Yankee fan makes one a gas-guzzling redneck but whatever. I hope your in a better mood tomorrow.

  • Jon | September 22, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    They said last night that 4 season tickets behind home plate will run $810,000. that is $2,500 per seat per game. So Yankee Stadium will have affordable seating, you just might need binoculrs to see the game.

  • Mark K | September 22, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    The Bills had the GU decal on their normally blank throwback (no flag or NFL Logo) helmets.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”290717″]They said last night that 4 season tickets behind home plate will run $810,000. that is $2,500 per seat per game. So Yankee Stadium will have affordable seating, you just might need binoculrs to see the game.[/quote]

    How much did those season tickets cost currently?

  • Rick White Un Trois | September 22, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”290719″][quote comment=”290717″]They said last night that 4 season tickets behind home plate will run $810,000. that is $2,500 per seat per game. So Yankee Stadium will have affordable seating, you just might need binoculrs to see the game.[/quote]

    How much did those season tickets cost currently?[/quote]

    I think it is somewhere in the neighborhood of $356,400.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    First look at Tampa Bay’s #1 Overall draft pick Stamkos in a TB uni…

    http://www.nhl.com/n...

  • Elena | September 22, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    Pawtucket et al. may do a 7th inning God Bless America, but do they do they same neverending version the Yankees do? I hope not. The Durham Bulls have never used GBA, thankgod. St Louis Cardinals have it performed before the game starts, after the Anthem, on Sundays and holidays, at least when I have been there recently.

  • Taha | September 22, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”290699″]I officially apologize to everyone everywhere for living in a suburb, being white, owning a business, investing in the stock market and having a wife who drives an SUV. I am so ashamed.[/quote]
    Apology accepted!

  • John Paul Jones | September 22, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    For the record, what team placed the name of its new stadium up for sale to the highest corporate bidder? Oh right, the Mets and “Citi” Field.

    The say “God Bless America” (which is really, really annoying) and the organ are “code” is really politically and intellectually lazy, but I read this site for the uni talk and not the sophmore year of college “deconstruction” philosphizing. I suppose the opposite site of the coin is the Mets who with all their special nights for every ethnic group are code for “we’re more progressive than you and we love looking at people as part of groups and not individuals.”

    Anyway — Jim MI, I had the same feeling about the new Blues uni when I started the slideshow, I was feeling great about things until I saw the pants, what is that stripe? It’s like a strange homage to drunk Zamboni driver….

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”290720″][quote comment=”290719″][quote comment=”290717″]They said last night that 4 season tickets behind home plate will run $810,000. that is $2,500 per seat per game. So Yankee Stadium will have affordable seating, you just might need binoculrs to see the game.[/quote]

    How much did those season tickets cost currently?[/quote]

    I think it is somewhere in the neighborhood of $356,400.[/quote]

    And those are/were affordable?

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Biggest surprise of the evening, at least for me: Dave Winfield fills out his uniform a lot more than he used to. Like, a lot more.

    Newsflash, some people put on weight later in life.

    Some people, however, eat as much red meat as they like and still stay skinny.

  • Paul | September 22, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    I just started reading this site in about June, and I made the Ticker for the first time today!

    And I checked out that NFL-uni site; Not bad, I enjoyed the Fashion Power Rankings, but they need more content. There are links to other sites including this one. I’ll probably check back in a few weeks to see if there’s more to it.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”290715″][quote comment=”290704″]Can we start calling the NHL third jerseys “Opportunity to sell fans more stuff.”[/quote]
    Or in Buffalo’s case (both teams), “We are admitting that our current uniforms suck, but are too stupid to make a complete overhaul”[/quote]

    Except their new “alternate” jerseys are just as effing brutal. They wanted to match the colour of the pants, but they still don’t match.

    These new alternate jerseys are the biggest crock that two corporate “leaders” have ever released since “New Coke”.

  • Coach | September 22, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    I knew you were a Mets fan Paul, but this is ridiculous.

    I love this site, but that passage was really disgusting. Your attitude towards that baseball is sickening. How can you write that people can come into the Stadium, and be comforted by acting like it is 1957? Firstly, as you pointed out, the Stadium looks extremely different now than it did in 57. Secondly, if Mandela and two Popes hadn’t come to the Stadium since then, I can maybe fathom why you would say that.

    Alluding that the traditions of the Yankees in some way signify the remnants of the shameful racist past of “white America” was a despicable thing to do Paul.

    Also, as someone who lived through the last gas crisis I can’t believe you honestly think cheap gas is an “entitlements for generations”.

    I can hear your screams at night during your recurring dream…”If only Timo Perez had hustled”. I never thought of you as one of the obnoxious Met fans, but you showed yourself to be one of those self-loathing, little brother type fans in this passage.

    Enjoy Citi Field and the super cheap prices, because I know the Metropolitans will be giving away tickets and gas because generations of Mets fans are entitled to them.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”290724″]For the record, what team placed the name of its new stadium up for sale to the highest corporate bidder? Oh right, the Mets and “Citi” Field.

    The say “God Bless America” (which is really, really annoying) and the organ are “code” is really politically and intellectually lazy, but I read this site for the uni talk and not the sophmore year of college “deconstruction” philosphizing. I suppose the opposite site of the coin is the Mets who with all their special nights for every ethnic group are code for “we’re more progressive than you and we love looking at people as part of groups and not individuals.”

    Anyway — Jim MI, I had the same feeling about the new Blues uni when I started the slideshow, I was feeling great about things until I saw the pants, what is that stripe? It’s like a strange homage to drunk Zamboni driver….[/quote]

    Talking about the pants stripe? I agree, it needs to go. It’s their regular everyday pants too, so you’ll see it no matter what uni they wear.

  • Dan E | September 22, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    I’ve been reading Uni Watch for a year, Paul, and I don’t usually leave a comment — but this is absolutely my favorite post so far, so I had to say something. You hit this sucker out of the park, and the short porch in right had nothing to do with it…

    As my father (who grew up in Flatbush as a Brooklyn Dodgers fan) used to tell me, “The only kids in my neighborhood who ever rooted for the Yankees were the bullies, racists and sore losers.” Now, some of my best pals are Yankee fans, and I do admire much about the team’s uniforms and history; but it’s also undeniable that the organization’s arrogant, self-satisfied bluster has long appealed to all manner of douchebags out there. And as a parallel the arrogant douchebaggery of America under the Bush administration, I’d say you’re pretty much on the money with this one.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    ‘douchebaggery’

    Did you just invent a word? I’ll contact Webster…

  • DZ | September 22, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    Does anyone know what the font for the numbers on the Dayton jerseys is? I believe some college used it on throwback jerseys last year as well.

    Thanks.

  • Helmets Match Pants | September 22, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    I’m surprised in the article about the Seahawks logo they didn’t mention the fact the Seahawks didn’t use the logo on their helmet during their first season. The helmet was just plain silver.

  • Dan E | September 22, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    Jim MI —

    It’s actually already in the Urban Dictionary:

    http://www.urbandict...

    Note that definition #4 includes “the wearing of flat-billed baseball caps backwards”.

  • mmwatkin | September 22, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    Agreed.

    I have never seen such a send off for a 32 year old stadium

    Sorry, but as a lifelong baseball fan who has been to the original Yankee Stadium in the 60’s, I can tell you that the real Yankee stadium died in 1973.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”290735″]Jim MI —

    It’s actually already in the Urban Dictionary:

    http://www.urbandict...

    Note that definition #4 includes “the wearing of flat-billed baseball caps backwards”.[/quote]

    lol awesome…

  • Adam Vaggalis | September 22, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    Does anyone know where I can get those t-shirts Yankee fans were wearing with a basic navy t-shirt with “The Captain” arched in white over the #15, or a “REG-GIE” arched over a 44 all on the left breast of the t-shirt. I have seen them before with a Don Mattingly and Joe Dimaggio 23 and 5. I need HELP!

  • doug | September 22, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    vin scully actually talked about the mouth guard in manny’s first game as a dodger – he (and a lot of others) wear it because when you are at bat you have a tendency to bite down as you swing, and you can get jaw pain and teeth problems… wearing the mouthguard helps with that.

  • tomeboy | September 22, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    Paul – This sandbox of yours, Uniwatch, has become part of my morning routine. I thoroughly enjoy your reading your insight and musings…..of those things sports-related. I must admit however that interjections, subtle or otherwise, of political commentary within non-politcal milieus have become all too commonplace and are frankly disappointing.

    You have a terrific site here Paul, and much like the “logo creep” of which you so aptly keep vigilant, please don’t sully your Uniwatch site as a forum for partisan politics.

    Best

  • John Paul Jones | September 22, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    Talking about the pants stripe? I agree, it needs to go. It’s their regular everyday pants too, so you’ll see it no matter what uni they wear.

    Damn, well, that is most unfortunate. Does anyone know if EA or RBK is releasing a code to get the uni updates for NHL ’09?

  • rob | September 22, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    Insert leftist dribble here.

    I come to read about uniforms, if I wanted this crap I would go to moveon.org or daily kos.

  • Rob | September 22, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”290740″]Paul – This sandbox of yours, Uniwatch, has become part of my morning routine. I thoroughly enjoy your reading your insight and musings…..of those things sports-related. I must admit however that interjections, subtle or otherwise, of political commentary within non-politcal milieus have become all too commonplace and are frankly disappointing.

    You have a terrific site here Paul, and much like the “logo creep” of which you so aptly keep vigilant, please don’t sully your Uniwatch site as a forum for partisan politics.

    Best[/quote]

    Couldn’t have said it any better myself.

  • Nick | September 22, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Paul, thanks for stating what most people who have stayed off the Yankee mystique bandwagon feel about the Yankees.

  • Jim Bullard | September 22, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    Oh my, singing God Bless America during the Seventh Inning Stretch…those Yankees are truly elitist assholes….what a joke.

    I think what’s really going on here is Paul can’t get over is the fact that his team is the enviously less-successful cousin to the Yankees.

    And when I go to Yankees games, I see a very diverse crowd, and none of them seem to have a problem with Yankee traditions.

  • cah | September 22, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    Paul, if I am a conservative, and I don’t necessarily agree with your political viewpoint, does that make me one of the people you ranted against? Would you prefer that I spent my time someplace else? Granted, as a knuckledragger, I have problems with multisyllabic words, but I wouldn’t want to darken your site with my latent racism.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    Cleat Observation:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    In this pic of the Seahawks, #92, second year defensive Air Jordan Reto III general release cleats. Their colors are Black, grey, and red.
    BTW, the mudguard’s print is referred to as elephant print!

    http://www.myairshoe...

    Snot green, as in #98 Julian Peterson’s Nike Super Bad 2’s, is their accent color! W

    Will he get fined is the question?

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”290747″]Cleat Observation:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    In this pic of the Seahawks, #92, second year defensive tackle Brandomn Mebane, he is wearing Air Jordan Retro III general release cleats. Their colors are Black, grey, and red.
    BTW, the mudguard’s print is referred to as elephant print!

    http://www.myairshoe...

    Their accent color is Snot green, as in #98 Julian Peterson’s Nike Super Bad 2’s.

    Will he get fined is the question?[/quote]

    Wow, proofreading snafu…let’s try that again

  • Duckstyle | September 22, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    Paul,
    I thought it’s was a damn fine post today. I guess I just not seeing these terrible politcal slights that some are, maybe because they all seemed either tongue-in-cheek, or, dare I say it, telling the truth. I’ve never been able to figure out how certain groups can be so short-sighted, and never see the other side of an argument/viewpoint etc. I feel free to bash any other fan base for their shortcomings, and the elitest groups even moreso; Yankee fans, Duke basketball fans, Cowboys fans, THE Ohio State fans etc. But I do this knowing full well that at some point people will point out the shortcomings of my own fanbase(fat and drunk Packer fans, White Sox t-shirts white the sox crossed out and trash penciled in). It comes with the territory.

    I’ve never fully understood why people love-to-hate others, and read a Mariotti column or watch Skip Bayless for example. But aparently Paul has become one-of-those to some. Well, whatever, it only seems to increase his website hits, que sera sera. If you don’t like it, don’t drink, say no thanks and move on.

    That being said, the off-white Yankee uni’s were a beaut, only reaosn I watched any of the festivities, glad to see someone in Yankee land “gets it”.

  • Mark | September 22, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    I have regarded the Yankee$ as a stain upon baseball for many years without feeling the need to make strained connections between their arrogant, bullying reign over MLB, and some imagined cracker conspiracy to keep the dark people down.
    And their uniforms are one of the things I despise about them…not something to admire.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    Does anyone know if PlayerExclusive is still going? The site had a great week one recap but there hasn’t been an entry since then.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”290738″]Does anyone know where I can get those t-shirts Yankee fans were wearing with a basic navy t-shirt with “The Captain” arched in white over the #15, or a “REG-GIE” arched over a 44 all on the left breast of the t-shirt. I have seen them before with a Don Mattingly and Joe Dimaggio 23 and 5. I need HELP![/quote]

    Here in New York and the rest of the metro area, Modell’s is a popular sporting goods franchise. You can find almost all of those T-Shirt jerseys there.

    Another one is the Sports Authority.

    If neither of them have them, check out Mickey’sPlace online.

    Hope that helps!

  • Ricko | September 22, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”290734″]I’m surprised in the article about the Seahawks logo they didn’t mention the fact the Seahawks didn’t use the logo on their helmet during their first season. The helmet was just plain silver.[/quote]

    No. It wasn’t. That logo was on the helmets the entire first season. You’re going by those goofy football cards from back then when NOBODY’s logos were on the helmets.

    Saw Seahawks play during their first season in Minnesota vs. Vikings. Spent time trying to tell from the stands if the green on the helmet logo was kelly or lime or something in between. Don’t think I’d have done that if the helmet had been plain silver.

    —Ricko

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    “The only kids in my neighborhood who ever rooted for the Yankees were the bullies, racists and sore losers.”

    I’ll have to call my mom and make sure she doesn’t wear blackface anymore.

  • haroldP | September 22, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”290743″][quote comment=”290740″]Paul – This sandbox of yours, Uniwatch, has become part of my morning routine. I thoroughly enjoy your reading your insight and musings…..of those things sports-related. I must admit however that interjections, subtle or otherwise, of political commentary within non-politcal milieus have become all too commonplace and are frankly disappointing.

    You have a terrific site here Paul, and much like the “logo creep” of which you so aptly keep vigilant, please don’t sully your Uniwatch site as a forum for partisan politics.

    Best[/quote]

    Couldn’t have said it any better myself.[/quote]

    I agree. I’ve been going to UniWatch every morning — before even any news site — for a long as I can remember. It’s reflexive for me. 1) Turn on computer. 2) Go to UniWatch. An occasional political comment is nothing to get worked up about (who is to say I don’t agree?). But this morning’s post was pretty bad. The Yankees represent jingoism? Have you ever lived anywhere other than NYC? This post sounded more like you telling non-politically correct Americans they “can go f**k themselves”. I saw your post at first and initially thought “cool, a Mets fan is blasting the Yankees!” and was instead treated to “America’s chickens are coming home to roost”. I am now taking your website out of my bookmarks list.

  • lwiedy | September 22, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”290753″][quote comment=”290734″]I’m surprised in the article about the Seahawks logo they didn’t mention the fact the Seahawks didn’t use the logo on their helmet during their first season. The helmet was just plain silver.[/quote]

    No. It wasn’t. That logo was on the helmets the entire first season. You’re going by those goofy football cards from back then when NOBODY’s logos were on the helmets.

    Saw Seahawks play during their first season in Minnesota vs. Vikings. Spent time trying to tell from the stands if the green on the helmet logo was kelly or lime or something in between. Don’t think I’d have done that if the helmet had been plain silver.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    We may have to add “Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet” to the list with green dot, et al.

  • Brandon | September 22, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    I agree with Paul’s comments on Yankee stadium being part of the corporate machine. Being only 23 and never have been to NY, I have never seen Yankee stadium in person, but the advertising is not lost on me when I see it on TV. They go on and on about how majestic Yankee Stadium is, but look to the outfield with all the modern day ads and all of that is lost on me. I’m sure all of this advertising will make its way to the new park. Thats what makes Fenway Park and Wrigley Field so great. They aren’t free from ads, but they aren’t dominated by them either keeping that historic charm.

  • jesse | September 22, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    I went to Yankee Stadium this year for the first and only time…

    God Bless America. I hate this generally and I really hate it during the Seventh Inning Stretch. But I will say I thought the fact that Yankees coming out of the dug out during it was a really nice touch, and I was impressed at how quickly they moved it along the day I was there. They simply played a canned version that moves quick and got on with the game.

    In terms of the fans and employees, I heard horror stories, but while they weren’t necessarily the friendliest people I ever encountered, they were polite and generally respectful fans.

    I was really impressed at how much deference the Yankee players show to the fans in terms of acknowledging cheers, etc.

    On the whole though, as much as I really wanted to be impressed, I wasn’t. It seemed like Veterans Stadium with a better PR guy to me. If I am a Yankee fan, I am looking forward to the new stadium, because I am already getting charged a fortune, at least at the new place you might get a little more for your money.

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    I have a busy day today (and I’m heading out at about 4pm, won’t be back until midnight-ish) and may not have time to respond to all the blowback. Three major points, though:

    1) The whole “This isn’t why I come here” or “If I wanted this crap, I’d go to…” line of argument is a red herring. I’m sorry Uni Watch isn’t exactly what you want it to be every single day. The fact is, I came here today to talk about Yankee Stadium, which I see as a fairly perfect metaphor for American empire. Not your cuppa? No problem. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop writing what’s on my mind.

    2) It’s fascinating to see today’s content described as “partisan,” “leftist,” etc. I didn’t mention the political parties, I didn’t mention the presidential candidates, nothing like that. Seems to me that the economic meltdown is something that affects ALL of us. High ticket prices affect ALL of us. Racism, whether or not you think it’s germane to this web site, is bad for ALL of us. If you think these are partisan issues, it says a lot more about your politics than it does about mine. (UPDATE: I realize now that I did take a cheap shot at Giuliani. OK, that’s a fair criticism.)

    3) I can assure you that this has nothing about me being a Mets fan. For the record: I’m no fan of the Wilpons, I cringe at the very sound of the name “Citi Field,” and my embarrassment over the Mets’ longstanding marketing approach (best described as suburban lite) is well-documented. Yes, the Yankees are a much more successful franchise than the Mets. Yes, they were a much better team than the Mets in 2000 (and would’ve won that World Series even if Timo had run harder). Yes, Yankee Stadium is a much more historic and important ballpark than Shea (although Shea is more important to me personally, simply because I’m a Mets fan). But none of that has anything to do with my feelings about Yankee Stadium as a cultural signifier.

    Sports are complex. That’s why they’re so powerful. That’s why baseball is “the national pastime.” It isn’t always as simple as saying, “I really like stirrups and hate purple.”

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    And this entire outcry and rage towards Paul’s commentary towards The Evil Empire is why I follow hockey.

    While the commissioner and owners may be somewhat corrupt, the product on the ice is still bigger than everything else. And that’s what “sport” is entirely about.

  • jeag | September 22, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    “a white-majority populace?” WTF was that? You won’t invoke my white guilt on Uni Watch, Lukas. I won’t let you.

  • RS Rogers | September 22, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    I’d just like to mention what a class act the Potomac Nationals organization is. (Now, every minor-league back office I’ve ever interacted with has been an impressive class act, but the Quad Cities River Bandits didn’t write in to Paul today, so there.) Anyway, my wife and I took a neighbor couple to a P-Nats game last month. The wife of the couple noticed in the fourth inning that a diamond had fallen out of an anniversary ring her husband had recently given her, and she was panicked. Looked all around the seats (true fact: pretzel salt looks exactly like a lost diamond when you’re looking for a lost diamond at a ballgame) and where we’d walked behind the stands. No luck.

    So we left a note with the team office to the effect of, “We lost a tiny diamond while sitting in Section 9, so if you happen to find it …” But let me tell you, when you write that note, you don’t really expect anything to come of it. I mean, we’d already looked and not found the thing, and what are the odds that anyone else could find it? For all we knew, the stone fell out while we were walking on the warning track before the game when they let some fans on the field, and you’re just not going to find a tiny diamond lost on a baseball diamond.

    That was Sunday night. Monday morning, my neighbor gets a call from the P-Nats office. A staffer went out with a flashlight after the game and found the diamond in the bleachers. The team mailed it securely to her, and what had become a complete crying-in-the-car-on-the-way-home disaster became a happy story my neighbors will be telling for years.

    Also, my wife and I are totally switching our season tickets from the big-league Nats to the P-Nats for 2009. I hope to see that pillbox Dukes cap on display at the park!

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    extremely busy here (work) today…(i know you’re all like “sweet”)…

    but i think PL’s column today was absolutely perfect…

    many took offense to it and most took it literally…and from that perspective it hit its mark

    well done i say

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”290755″]I am now taking your website out of my bookmarks list.[/quote]

    You know that red X in the upper right-hand corner? Click it and wait a day. I guarantee you that something else will be printed where you normally read via your reflexes.

  • John Paul Jones | September 22, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    One other point (and hopefully better spelled than my first post of the morning) is for all the crying about “Big Business” and “bullying” –the Yanks pay the luxury tax along with the METS, Sox and Dodgers and that money is pooled and given out to other teams in smaller markets to help them stay profitable (god knows the Royals don’t spend the money on talent). Maybe you didn’t mention that aspect Paul because you are comfortable with the “soak the rich” aspect of MLB.

  • jesse | September 22, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.

    Put that on a T-Shirt, and I’ll buy one.

  • Adam | September 22, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    “But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for every freaking game)”

    Yes, it is so annoying to have to listen to a patriotic song instead of some semi-celebrity stumble through “Take Me Out to the Ball Game”. Us stupid, patriotic Americans, how dare we enjoy something that truly reps people who still give a shit about their country?

    Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens.

  • MV | September 22, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    Coach (#33) and tomeboy (#44) said it best. Love this site, read it daily, but not for articles like this. Your political commentary is so mis-guided it is not even worth recognizing. Having been in that building you loathe so deeply last night, I can tell you it has an undeniable mystique – an aura Shea and other stadiums dream to have. There were baseball fans in attendance last night, not just Yankees fans, and they were there to be part of something special. Orioles fans were on their feet applauding the HOF’s introduced prior to the game – which is impressive considering the Yankee fan invasion on Camden Yards for every game down there. It was not just another closing of a stadium. It was the closing of “The Stadium.” As a fan of the game and its history, I am glad I can say “I was there.” FYI – the extended version of God Bless America is not done every night, only on special occassions. Most nights it is a recording by Kate Smith, which is not dragged out. As an American, I really don’t have an issue with standing for a patriotic song twice during the night.

  • Nate | September 22, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    two things: first- checked out the nfl jersey fan site, nothing special at all, I won’t return.
    Second, as to the Yankees remarks, saying the Yankees are tied to an out-moded idea of America is interesting, but here it is underdeveloped and seem narrow-minded in the space you provide for them. You aren’t necessarily wrong, but I think you did it poorly here, and in the process fell back on some pretty small-minded ideas about what the US is like outside of NYC.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote]Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens[/quote]

    teebz?

    your thoughts…

  • KilroyFSU | September 22, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    Bro, your leftist rants are getting old. We all know you’re a lefty. We get it. If you want to get into political rants, maybe another blog would be a better forum. Yeah, yeah, it’s your blog. You can do whatever you want.

    Nobody’s censoring you here. Just a suggestion that some of your readers maybe don’t particularly enjoy coming to a sports uni site and being called knuckle dragging racists because we don’t see things through the same lens as you, Karl Marx, and Che Guevara.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”290770″][quote]Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens[/quote]

    teebz?

    your thoughts…[/quote]

    Oh boy… if I were to start on this… oh boy.

  • joe | September 22, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”290711″][quote comment=”290707″]Whya re the Yankees and Mets getting any revenue from the sale of ballpark memorabilia. If NYC owns the park, don’t they own the seats, foul poles, urinals, etc.?[/quote]

    Actually, the city is getting 70% of the proceeds from sales of stuff from Shea. The rest is going to the Mets foundation.

    And a lot of Shea’s materials (plumbing fixtures, wire, etc.) will be reused by the Parks Dept. elsewehre in the city.

    I don’t know for sure, but I assume something similar is planned for Yankee Stadium.[/quote]
    I would doubt that, I assume Shea is city owned, but yankee stadium is private, they’ll sell everything and it will all to to Steinbrenner.

  • Tank | September 22, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    Why did you have to trash America along with the Yankees?

  • Sammy | September 22, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    With the Broncos’ orange alts, they used an orange captain patch–I’m pretty sure that they are only the second NFL team to have two different captains’ patches. Joe Skiba pointed out last year that the Giants have both a blue and red version. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

  • floormaster squeeze | September 22, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    Thanks Paul. I really appreciate point 2 in #63 above. I cannot believe the pathetic “victim” whining and sarcasm of those who do not understand what you were writing about. Here is a tip for those who feel offended, instead feeling threatened and defensive, think.

    There is a weird defensive posture some people have to things that are injuring sports. If you love sports, you understand.

  • Tree Missile | September 22, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”290766″]We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.

    Put that on a T-Shirt, and I’ll buy one.[/quote]

    Seconded.

  • Shane | September 22, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”290700″]
    Kinda like those BUF unis? What the hell are those things? Apparantly they were aloud to workout with them on before showing them off because they all had armpit stains on them.[/quote]

    They honestly look like what the rest of the league are using as practice sweaters.

    [quote]Also, all the BUF pants had ‘Reebok’ on them. Is that company getting away from ‘RBK’?[/quote]

    Probably. I was at Bruins camp on Saturday, and Manny Fernandez’s pads had “Reebok” instead of RBK. As did the center red line and the blue lines painted on the boards at the Garden.

  • Frank Mercogliano | September 22, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    But Take Me Out to the Ballgame is done during the seventh inning stretch….the Yankees, in the way they do God Bless America, it basically is a four minute timeout to ice the pitcher. I totally see Paul’s point on that one.

    Frank

  • Kevin Z. | September 22, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    Driving an SUV does not make you a Yankees-esque elitist.

  • joe | September 22, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”290757″]I agree with Paul’s comments on Yankee stadium being part of the corporate machine. Being only 23 and never have been to NY, I have never seen Yankee stadium in person, but the advertising is not lost on me when I see it on TV. They go on and on about how majestic Yankee Stadium is, but look to the outfield with all the modern day ads and all of that is lost on me. I’m sure all of this advertising will make its way to the new park. Thats what makes Fenway Park and Wrigley Field so great. They aren’t free from ads, but they aren’t dominated by them either keeping that historic charm.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the ads on the walls, thats how the old parks usually were. If the ads are done right (old school looking) it can feel right.

  • cah | September 22, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    We’re the Mets and we’ll try harder.

    Well, most of the time.

    Except when we don’t.

    Like after the seventh inning of every third game.

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”290781″][quote comment=”290757″]I agree with Paul’s comments on Yankee stadium being part of the corporate machine. Being only 23 and never have been to NY, I have never seen Yankee stadium in person, but the advertising is not lost on me when I see it on TV. They go on and on about how majestic Yankee Stadium is, but look to the outfield with all the modern day ads and all of that is lost on me. I’m sure all of this advertising will make its way to the new park. Thats what makes Fenway Park and Wrigley Field so great. They aren’t free from ads, but they aren’t dominated by them either keeping that historic charm.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the ads on the walls, thats how the old parks usually were. If the ads are done right (old school looking) it can feel right.[/quote]

    The thing about ads on walls is that in the old days they were MOSTLY for local or regional businesses (just as they still are at minor league parks). Nowadays they’re for huge corporate multinationals. That’s why it feels so different.

  • Duckstyle | September 22, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”290767″]Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens.[/quote]

    Seriously, dude? Why does questioning something automatically mean a person hates America? I just don’t get this ridiculous argument. I hope you run into a rowdy group of Canadians someday, quote that gem to them and see how far it gets you. Take off the blinders, man, what makes America great is our ability to question, and to stand and and scream our beliefs. Personally, short-sighted BS like this makes me think maybe YOU hate America, and YOU hate our liberties.

  • Mark K | September 22, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”290728″][quote comment=”290715″][quote comment=”290704″]Can we start calling the NHL third jerseys “Opportunity to sell fans more stuff.”[/quote]
    Or in Buffalo’s case (both teams), “We are admitting that our current uniforms suck, but are too stupid to make a complete overhaul”[/quote]

    Except their new “alternate” jerseys are just as effing brutal. They wanted to match the colour of the pants, but they still don’t match.

    These new alternate jerseys are the biggest crock that two corporate “leaders” have ever released since “New Coke”.[/quote]

    And here’s the kicker- the new alternates actually DO match the color of the pants but they’re wearing those shells over the normal pants for some reason and those shells are slightly lighter! You can see the standard pants coming out at the bottom of the shells in some photos.

    All which begs the question- why couldn’t they have worn shells the last 2 years that matched their original “throwbacks”??

    Man, the Sabres really know how to fuck things up.

  • joe | September 22, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”290783″][quote comment=”290781″][quote comment=”290757″]I agree with Paul’s comments on Yankee stadium being part of the corporate machine. Being only 23 and never have been to NY, I have never seen Yankee stadium in person, but the advertising is not lost on me when I see it on TV. They go on and on about how majestic Yankee Stadium is, but look to the outfield with all the modern day ads and all of that is lost on me. I’m sure all of this advertising will make its way to the new park. Thats what makes Fenway Park and Wrigley Field so great. They aren’t free from ads, but they aren’t dominated by them either keeping that historic charm.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the ads on the walls, thats how the old parks usually were. If the ads are done right (old school looking) it can feel right.[/quote]

    The thing about ads on walls is that in the old days they were MOSTLY for local or regional businesses (just as they still are at minor league parks). Nowadays they’re for huge corporate multinationals. That’s why it feels so different.[/quote]
    I agree its better if its local stuff, but I think it can be acceptable if its made to look right. I’d prefer to see the “hit it here win a suit” and buy a “insert local paper here” every morning sign.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”290784″][quote comment=”290767″]Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens.[/quote]

    Seriously, dude? Why does questioning something automatically mean a person hates America? I just don’t get this ridiculous argument. I hope you run into a rowdy group of Canadians someday, quote that gem to them and see how far it gets you. Take off the blinders, man, what makes America great is our ability to question, and to stand and and scream our beliefs. Personally, short-sighted BS like this makes me think maybe YOU hate America, and YOU hate our liberties.[/quote]

    I’m a rowdy Canadian. And if you think that jerseying someone only happens in hockey, you’re in for a rude awakening in a mall. ;o) LOL

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”290781″][quote comment=”290757″]I agree with Paul’s comments on Yankee stadium being part of the corporate machine. Being only 23 and never have been to NY, I have never seen Yankee stadium in person, but the advertising is not lost on me when I see it on TV. They go on and on about how majestic Yankee Stadium is, but look to the outfield with all the modern day ads and all of that is lost on me. I’m sure all of this advertising will make its way to the new park. Thats what makes Fenway Park and Wrigley Field so great. They aren’t free from ads, but they aren’t dominated by them either keeping that historic charm.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the ads on the walls, thats how the old parks usually were. If the ads are done right (old school looking) it can feel right.[/quote]
    Huh? An ad is an ad. I laugh when people get all upset at ads today but look at the ballparks of old with nostalgia.

    But these companies like Gap, Under Armor, etc are so evil…not like back in the day when harmless stuff like Chesterfield Cigarette ads were plastered everywhere.

    Never heard of anyone getting lung cancer or emphysema from a pair of chinos or cross-trainers.

  • Seth H | September 22, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    Re post 77 and prior: Both Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium are owned by New York City and fall under the City Parks Department. When the city renovated Yankee Stadium in 73 they bought it from the Yankees.

    The reason the teams are getting anything from the sale of pieces of the stadia is that the City realized that the teams could do a much more effective job of marketing the items. So the teams are essentially acting as sales agents and receiving commissions for their efforts.

    Re post 46: “Leftist dribble”? Is that a point guard who can’t go to his right?

  • RS Rogers | September 22, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    Regarding the political commentary commentary, I’d just like to point out that this is America, and there was a time when that meant that people understood that their fellow citizens were allowed to hold and even express political opinions. Give Paul a break — if the fact that he expressed a “political” opinion offends you, then the truth is you’re the one with the problem, not Paul. Grow up, and while you’re at it maybe ask your grandparents to teach you a little bit about what it’s supposed to mean to be an American.

    However, as a counterpoint to Paul’s equation of the Yankees with the worst aspects of American triumphalism, I lived in Europe during the runup to and the early years of the Iraq invasion. America was widely derided, anti-American sentiment was widely expressed, and many symbols of American culture and authority were mocked or even physically attacked. And yet the very same European youths who would gather by the hundreds of thousands on weekends to throw rocks at their local American consulates wore Yankees caps. Almost to the man.

    Honestly, I saw more Yankees caps on the streets of Amsterdam in 2003 and 2004 than I’d ever seen in any American city.

    It got to the point where some American expats I knew started wearing Yankees caps in order to blend in with the locals and not stand out as an American. I and some others adopted a contrary approach: We started wearing Red Sox caps, which instantly identified us to any other Americans as Americans, whereas the locals didn’t pick up on the meaning of the bright red B.

    (It really worked. Even had Dave Eggers approach me on a train in North Holland on account of my Red Sox cap making it apparent that I was an American.)

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote]I and some others adopted a contrary approach: We started wearing Red Sox caps, which instantly identified us to any other Americans as Americans[/quote]

    ohhhh…you no ‘big papi’

  • Shane | September 22, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”290790″]
    It got to the point where some American expats I knew started wearing Yankees caps in order to blend in with the locals and not stand out as an American. I and some others adopted a contrary approach: We started wearing Red Sox caps, which instantly identified us to any other Americans as Americans, whereas the locals didn’t pick up on the meaning of the bright red B.[/quote]

    I’ve heard stories about Manchester City fans starting to wear Red Sox caps as some sort of “Man United are like the Yankees and we’re the Sox” sort of thing.

    It saddens me, being both a Sox fan AND a Man United fan.

  • Mickel | September 22, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”290747″]Cleat Observation:
    Snot green, as in #98 Julian Peterson’s Nike Super Bad 2’s, is their accent color! Will he get fined is the question?[/quote]

    The Lime green accent shoe was worn by most of the team in last years playoffs against the Redskins. Some players stopped wearing them, but Peterson, and a couple others, have continued to wear them. No fine.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:43 am |
  • Rich O | September 22, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    The post may be a bit over the top in parts- but who can deny that Yankees have come to embody the collision of excess and commercialism in sports (and by extension society)?

    I’m as patriotic as most I think- I vote in every election, stand and face the flag undistracted during the national anthem and get the words right, I put the flag out for more holidays than my neighbors do.

    And when I saw the part about jingoism and the Yankees- I thought it was spot on.

    And with any blog- you get semi-tangents like this now and then. If some can’t handle that- que sera.

  • JTH | September 22, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”290775″]With the Broncos’ orange alts, they used an orange captain patch–I’m pretty sure that they are only the second NFL team to have two different captains’ patches. Joe Skiba pointed out last year that the Giants have both a blue and red version. Please correct me if I’m wrong.[/quote]
    The bears wore orange captain patches with their alternate jerseys last year: http://www.brendanmc...

  • JTH | September 22, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    OK, that link doesn’t seem to work. How ’bout this instead?
    http://farm4.static....

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”290778″][quote comment=”290700″]
    Kinda like those BUF unis? What the hell are those things? Apparantly they were aloud to workout with them on before showing them off because they all had armpit stains on them.[/quote]

    They honestly look like what the rest of the league are using as practice sweaters.

    [quote]Also, all the BUF pants had ‘Reebok’ on them. Is that company getting away from ‘RBK’?[/quote]

    Probably. I was at Bruins camp on Saturday, and Manny Fernandez’s pads had “Reebok” instead of RBK. As did the center red line and the blue lines painted on the boards at the Garden.[/quote]

    Hmmm this is the first I have ever heard of this. Wonder if it’s a league wide thing…

  • chance | September 22, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    Thanks for the beautiful Portland Beavers gallery.

    Gotta love the PCL heritage – if the Rose City ever got a MLB club, I can’t believe there’d be any question as to the name.

  • Happy Joe | September 22, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    “Martin Gramatica was wearing his wedding band yesterday.”

    And unless my eyes deceived me, the Saints’ holder was wearing a wristwatch (sorry, no screen grab).

    I also enjoyed the Broncos orange jerseys. I like them much better than the blue.

    I don’t want to sound like a ballwasher, but none of us have to agree with Paul on everyting he posts. If you do, great. If you don’t, post a comment and say why. That is what makes blogs so great. Remember, it is a dialogue, but not a democracy.

  • Bob Andrews | September 22, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    Last night’s festivities at Yankee Stadium provided a great opportunity for a Uni related entry (different pinstripe arrangements, cap styles, stirrups, etc). Instead for the first time I can recall I came away thinking “Paul is full of crap and I just wasted my time here”.

  • Steve | September 22, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    I actually noticed a number of kickers/placeholders wearing wedding bands yesterday. If you look at the picture of Bills kicker Rian Lindell that Paul posted (right after the pic of Gramatica)you will see one on his finger, too.

  • Ian | September 22, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    Can someone please explain why Whitey Ford is levitating in the second photo of him?

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”290788″][quote comment=”290781″][quote comment=”290757″]I agree with Paul’s comments on Yankee stadium being part of the corporate machine. Being only 23 and never have been to NY, I have never seen Yankee stadium in person, but the advertising is not lost on me when I see it on TV. They go on and on about how majestic Yankee Stadium is, but look to the outfield with all the modern day ads and all of that is lost on me. I’m sure all of this advertising will make its way to the new park. Thats what makes Fenway Park and Wrigley Field so great. They aren’t free from ads, but they aren’t dominated by them either keeping that historic charm.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the ads on the walls, thats how the old parks usually were. If the ads are done right (old school looking) it can feel right.[/quote]
    Huh? An ad is an ad. I laugh when people get all upset at ads today but look at the ballparks of old with nostalgia.

    But these companies like Gap, Under Armor, etc are so evil…not like back in the day when harmless stuff like Chesterfield Cigarette ads were plastered everywhere.

    Never heard of anyone getting lung cancer or emphysema from a pair of chinos or cross-trainers.[/quote]

    yes…this is much better than

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    yes…this is much better than this

    WTF…fixed now i hope

  • tomeboy | September 22, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    Paul – You are correct. Explicitly, your column made no mention of either Republican or Democrat. However there is an implicit message here that a doubt few here missed. To assert otherwise demeans the intelligence of your readership. This should be taken as a compliment.

    We are in agreement re ticket prices, mortgage meltdown, gas prices…..I would also go as far to suggest that few regulars around here would support a repeal of Board vs. Board of Education of Topeka. This said, I would gently suggest that linkage of the Yankee organization, rituals and, ostensibly fans, to social injustices and macroeconomics may be more a projection of your bias than of reality.

    For those who may construe my thoughts here as strident – they are not. I will most likely continue reading Uniwatch.

    Again, best

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”290798″]
    Hmmm this is the first I have ever heard of this. Wonder if it’s a league wide thing…[/quote]

    All the new breezers say “Reebok” on them.

  • Alex | September 22, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”290771″]Bro, your leftist rants are getting old. We all know you’re a lefty. We get it. If you want to get into political rants, maybe another blog would be a better forum. Yeah, yeah, it’s your blog. You can do whatever you want.

    Nobody’s censoring you here. Just a suggestion that some of your readers maybe don’t particularly enjoy coming to a sports uni site and being called knuckle dragging racists because we don’t see things through the same lens as you, Karl Marx, and Che Guevara.[/quote]

    ding ding ding….i was pretty sure i typed Uniwatchblog.com this morning but for some reason I was redirected to Michael Moore’s blog

    first time i’ve been let down by uniwatch in the several years i’ve been tuning in.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    I have a busy day today (and I’m heading out at about 4pm, won’t be back until midnight-ish) and may not have time to respond to all the blowback. Three major points, though:

    You write something that opinionated and then you’re going to bail on us….BOO! Poor form. (just kidding of course! Life is life, you gotta go, you gotta go)

    It’s fascinating to see today’s content described as “partisan,” “leftist,” etc. I didn’t mention the political parties, I didn’t mention the presidential candidates, nothing like that.

    All true, however, when you post a photo of yourself playing softball in an Obama t-shirt, don’t be surprised if people remember.

    The Yankees may be what one would call a poor corporate citizen with some of that ticket pricing but fleecing is happening all around us. College football teams charging more face value for Notre Dame than the rest of the schedule. NFL insisting that season ticket holders and single game buyers pay full price for preseason. I read a Penguins’ blog that a person just paid nearly $600 for a grand total of 4 tickets…and was still excited. The list could go on and on. The Yanks aren’t the only participant in this game.

    As to the political/social commentary, let me state this right off the bat: I am a registered Democrat, consider myself liberal/progressive of most issues, plan on voting for Obama and have voted for the Democratic candidate for President in the previous three elections (the only ones I’ve particpated in).

    However, I couldn’t disagree with your stance more in the first four paragraphs. Yankee Stadium wasn’t anything like 1957 when I was there last summer. I was surrounded by a Puerto Rican family, Asian-Americans and a black father and his son. White America wasn’t the biggest bully on the playground for sure.

    Look, I’m not an Yanks apologist (truth be told, I was in town to see the Pirates and throw my best friend a bachelor party) and I loathed the overdone stuff about how great they are. I thought I was going to vomit when, if you recall that was the game Clemens made his return, they played “Rocket Man” because it was so staged.

    That all being said, there’s so much tradition I can’t be a hater. I have to admit I have major chills hearing “Enter Sandman” and seeing Mariano come out for the ninth. He’ll always be one of my all-time favorite players.

    Maybe they’re arrogant in the sense of the world of baseball, they’ve kind of earned that with the amount of World Series they’ve won but spin that into some larger commentary on US/World affairs is misguided.

    …and I thought your Piazza column was bad…..geesh!

  • joe | September 22, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”290805″]yes…this is much better than this

    WTF…fixed now i hope[/quote]

    yes it is. Make the UA sign look like it belongs there andd it wouldn’t be as bad. You have a classic park, make the ads look like they belong there. You are going to have ads, make them look appropriate.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”290807″][quote comment=”290798″]
    Hmmm this is the first I have ever heard of this. Wonder if it’s a league wide thing…[/quote]

    All the new breezers say “Reebok” on them.[/quote]

    Yup, I’ve been doing some pic hunting and finding the same…

  • Shane | September 22, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”290807″][quote comment=”290798″]
    Hmmm this is the first I have ever heard of this. Wonder if it’s a league wide thing…[/quote]

    All the new breezers say “Reebok” on them.[/quote]

    Sticks as well (note the picture I posted at #82).

  • tomeboy | September 22, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”290806″]Board vs. Board of Education of Topeka.

    Brown vs. Board of Education…

  • Ed R. | September 22, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    Paul has every right to fill this blog with any type of content he wants so I’m not going to complain that I’m going to stop reading because of this post or anything to that effect. What really bothers me is the number of you complaining about “God Bless America.” The Yankee organization has chosen to take about 2 minutes during the seventh inning to recognize that this country is at war and to remember those who are defending this country all over the world. Whether you agree with the reasons for this war is irrelevant, its merely meant to remember that there are people over there who may never make it home. If you watch a Yankee game on t.v. and see the number of flags, etc. in the crowd during the seventh inning its obvious this doesn’t bother the fans at the game. Sorry if it inconveniences you to have to take a moment to remember the men and women of our armed forces.

  • Ronnie Poore | September 22, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    The Bills vs Raiders game was the best uni matchup of the weekend. it was like seeing an AFL game from 1966. The Bills need to ditch the current uniform and go completely with the throwbacks.

    interesting difference in the color of the Yankees unis worn by the old timers. didn’t realize how much whiter the modern pinstripes were when compared to the old flannels.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    America=Free Speech
    UniWatchblog.com =Free Speech for Paul Lukas and anyone else who WANTS to play

  • DarkAudit | September 22, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”290714″][quote]“We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.”[/quote]

    can the ‘comment of the day’ award actually go to a tan box, in the lead?

    i say, “YES”[/quote]

    Seconded.

    The Pirates have many self-inflicted wounds over the last 16 years, but I couldn’t agree more.

    And fuck Red Sox “nation” while you’re at it.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”290815″]The Bills vs Raiders game was the best uni matchup of the weekend. it was like seeing an AFL game from 1966. The Bills need to ditch the current uniform and go completely with the throwbacks.

    interesting difference in the color of the Yankees unis worn by the old timers. didn’t realize how much whiter the modern pinstripes were when compared to the old flannels.[/quote]

    Ok, non-baseball fan question:

    Why were they off white? Was that the actual color they wanted? Was that as white as flannel got back in the day? Something about them being easier to clean than actual white is ringing a bell for some reason…

  • Smail | September 22, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    The holder for Scobee’s game winning field goal was also wearing his wedding band and a rather large wrist watch.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    Regarding the political commentary commentary, I’d just like to point out that this is America, and there was a time when that meant that people understood that their fellow citizens were allowed to hold and even express political opinions. Give Paul a break — if the fact that he expressed a “political” opinion offends you, then the truth is you’re the one with the problem, not Paul. Grow up, and while you’re at it maybe ask your grandparents to teach you a little bit about what it’s supposed to mean to be an American.

    I’m not sure anyone is “offended”. I think every single post, that either agreed or disagreed with Paul, embodies EXACTLY what is so great about America. No one said Paul isn’t allowed to have an opinion. Your comment almost makes it sound like the dissenters shouldn’t express disagreement and that’s about as un-American as it gets. (Move to China with that)

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”290697″]”But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for [i]every freaking game[/i])”[/quote]
    Let the record show that the elongated Ronan Tynan version is not done at [i]every freaking game[/i]. I could be wrong, but this might be his first appearence this season. They usually play a quick Kate Smith recording — I say quick because it doesn’t include the relatively unknown first verse that Tynan starts with.

  • david | September 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    cannot locate any photos but….
    baldwin wallace wore all yellow this weekend when the played john carroll-saw the game on tv. john it self has horrible typography and gold numbers which do not really stand out. they changed their classic-notre dame style look. but if anyone can find the photos-its not pretty.

  • Smail | September 22, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”290819″]The holder for Scobee’s game winning field goal was also wearing his wedding band and a rather large wrist watch.[/quote]

    Sorry, not Scobee, Gramatica’s kick.

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • steve | September 22, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    were it not for the stupid pant stripes, those Blues uniforms would be pretty close to perfect in my eyes. Great job on that jersey.

  • ss | September 22, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    Paul,

    I’m happy for your response to the crticism, but the reason people accused you of being “partisan” is because you attacked America and its values in a very partisan-sounding manner. What you said was not something complex about sports. You wrote in a manner that made many of your readers feel threatened. Their reaction is not just their problem, it’s yours, and there are consequences to doing that, even if they never amount to anything more than complaints in the message section. Those complaints don’t saying as much about their views as they do yours, as you felt so strong about having to write what you wrote today that you took your own sports/uniform-related website and instead went on an aggressive monologue about American values and greed and how we get what we deserve. We can get political stuff almost anywhere on the internet these days. A usually wonderful website like this provides a means of escaping it. Perhaps some people just don’t want to be bombarded with political issues, whether or not they agree with them. Had your post simply been about how the Yankees suck or how people are waxing nostalgic about something overblown, or ticket prices, then whatever. Fan boys can be dismissed. But it bothered the very type of people that DO like the hear “God bless America” and DO drive SUVs (and because of 4-wheel drive and high ground-clearance…it snows an awful lot in places less populated than New York City). One could write a post about how the Yankees represent everything GOOD about America as well, but that wouldn’t be any more appropriate for what people expect out of this website. Actually, now that I think about it, doing that would be quite brave :)

    Thank you for your time and efforts on this site.

  • Adam G. | September 22, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    What really bothers me is the number of you complaining about “God Bless America.” […] Sorry if it inconveniences you to have to take a moment to remember the men and women of our armed forces.

    Well not everyone agrees that this is the most appropriate way to honor soldiers and sailors. People are getting killed all the time–let’s sing a song.

    And it’s a divisive song at that. Not everyone shares your narrowminded view that “God” should be inserted everywhere and that it’s unpatriotic not to share the (apparently now nationally official) Christianist religion. To the extent that you feel that singing a song actually does anything to support anyone, couldn’t you at least pick one that’s patriotic but not so obviously divisive.

    It’s bad enough we’ve got to put up with the flag-worshipping, war-mongering national anthem. (And its first verse at that, which is nothing more than a question: Can you see the flag? Until someone sings the second verse, the answer could very well be “no”.)

  • Ricko | September 22, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    I guess the whole Yankee Stadium thing went down about the only way it could, I suppose. ESPN did a nice job of remembering all the sporting events and socially significant aspects of Yankee Stadium, if not the structure itself, but the site.

    The Yankees, as they were entitled to do, celebrated themselves AT the stadium. I didn think it was kind of ludicrouc to include all current starters at the end of every position montage, though. Better to leave them off adn limit the diamond vison presentation to former Yankees. Robinson Cano, or example, is an okay major leaguer, but I don’t that I’d put him in the same group as Bobby Richardson and Gil McDougald at second base.

    I spent the day thinking about things like the Sudden Death game, too.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”290816″]America=Free Speech
    UniWatchblog.com =Free Speech for Paul Lukas and anyone else who WANTS to play[/quote]

    hells yes

  • chance | September 22, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”290759″]If you think these are partisan issues, it says a lot more about your politics than it does about mine. (UPDATE: I realize now that I did take a cheap shot at Giuliani. OK, that’s a fair criticism.)
    [/quote]

    Nah, you attacked him not for promoting one social viewpoint or agenda over another, but because the guy’s annoying. Fair shot, to my eyes.

    Besides, not even conservatives can stand the guy. Witness his dreadful showing in the party primaries.

  • ryan | September 22, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    I noticed while watching the game, and you can see on the photos, that the style of the numerals on the Baylor jerseys is different for the NOB. The III has a serif and IV does not.

  • Nick | September 22, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    Paul, unfortunately in this post you proved that you are no better than the rest of the whiny Met fans. Don’t be upset because the most World Series have been played at our stadium and that Yankee Stadium is a stadium for winners. Or that we have the richest baseball tradition. Like Coach said before me, enjoy your “cheap Citifield” next year

  • Art | September 22, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    Paul,
    I enjoyed the Portland Beaver photo galley. As a Phillies fan growing up, the Beavers were our triple A team. If you look at the 1983 photo, you will see that “beavers” is spelled with an upside Philles p (circa 1970 -1990). Great photos!

  • Paul | September 22, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”290762″]I’d just like to mention what a class act the Potomac Nationals organization is. (Now, every minor-league back office I’ve ever interacted with has been an impressive class act, but the Quad Cities River Bandits didn’t write in to Paul today, so there.) Anyway, my wife and I took a neighbor couple to a P-Nats game last month. The wife of the couple noticed in the fourth inning that a diamond had fallen out of an anniversary ring her husband had recently given her, and she was panicked. Looked all around the seats (true fact: pretzel salt looks exactly like a lost diamond when you’re looking for a lost diamond at a ballgame) and where we’d walked behind the stands. No luck.

    So we left a note with the team office to the effect of, “We lost a tiny diamond while sitting in Section 9, so if you happen to find it …” But let me tell you, when you write that note, you don’t really expect anything to come of it. I mean, we’d already looked and not found the thing, and what are the odds that anyone else could find it? For all we knew, the stone fell out while we were walking on the warning track before the game when they let some fans on the field, and you’re just not going to find a tiny diamond lost on a baseball diamond.

    That was Sunday night. Monday morning, my neighbor gets a call from the P-Nats office. A staffer went out with a flashlight after the game and found the diamond in the bleachers. The team mailed it securely to her, and what had become a complete crying-in-the-car-on-the-way-home disaster became a happy story my neighbors will be telling for years.

    Also, my wife and I are totally switching our season tickets from the big-league Nats to the P-Nats for 2009. I hope to see that pillbox Dukes cap on display at the park![/quote]

    If you ask for me, Paul Barrett, I will personally take that hat out of storage and let you take a look at it.

  • Wollen1 | September 22, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    Paul, I must protest your dissing of the Broncos orange jerseys. I love the look. It reminds me so much of the old days when I became a Broncos fan in the first place. I was terrified they were going to lose yesterday, and by all rghts, they should have.

    My terror was not so much as a result of the actual loss counting in the standings as it was that owner Pat Bowlen has reportedly banned the orange jerseys before because the Broncos tend to have horrible luck while wearing them. If the team would have lost a game that they lead 21-3 at one point, I fear we would have never seen the jerseys again.

    That’s right. I’m so much a fan of the orange jerseys that I’m advocating wearing them although my team routinely performs poorly in them. Sometimes I don’t make any sense even to myself.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote]Don’t be upset because the most World Series have been played at our stadium and that Yankee Stadium is a stadium for winners[/quote]

    what position do you play again?

  • troyan | September 22, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    I’ve read uniwatch for about two years now and i’m also a proud yankee fan. I’m also a liberal who hates the commercialization of everything this country has to offer. The thing is though i root for the yankees, not the corperations that make money off the adevertising or the steinbrenner family and the wealth they make off my hard earned dollar. I root for the team my great grandmother told me to root for when i was a kid, a team that she rooted for because when she got off the boat from Poland she wanted to feel like she was the fabric of the city. Paul i love your blog and i love your views in this post even more but please trash the business side of things stay away from the fans who have many different reasons for rooting for the team.

  • cah | September 22, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    Buried in all the other stuff is a good point that wasn’t mentioned very much. The stadium that’s being torn down isn’t the original Yankee Stadium. Some of the original parts are still there, but if you take away the propaganda, it’s really just an average ballpark built in the 70s, with some nice nostalgic touches. The stadium where Ruth and Charlie Connerly played doesn’t exist anymore.

  • Patrick | September 22, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”290834″]Paul, I must protest your dissing of the Broncos orange jerseys. I love the look. It reminds me so much of the old days when I became a Broncos fan in the first place. I was terrified they were going to lose yesterday, and by all rghts, they should have.

    My terror was not so much as a result of the actual loss counting in the standings as it was that owner Pat Bowlen has reportedly banned the orange jerseys before because the Broncos tend to have horrible luck while wearing them. If the team would have lost a game that they lead 21-3 at one point, I fear we would have never seen the jerseys again.

    That’s right. I’m so much a fan of the orange jerseys that I’m advocating wearing them although my team routinely performs poorly in them. Sometimes I don’t make any sense even to myself.[/quote]

    Makes sense to me.

    I don’t care for the Broncos goofy template and never have, but if they MUST wear it, the orange jersey looks so much better than the drab navy one. Plus it is a nice nod to the team’s past.

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”290825″]you attacked America and its values …[/quote]

    This is, hands down, the comment of the day. And now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go burn a flag, reread ‘Trotsky for Dummies,’ and answer all my e-mail from Fidel.

  • James P. | September 22, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    Paul, it’s your site, you get to say what you want. I have to bite my tongue when I see the political crap, but your site, your content. I don’t agree with your assessment of last night, or the Yankees in general, but again, it’s your site.

    Now, onto the uni related portion of this comment. Seeing the throwback unis last night made me want one! The “white” wool pin-stripes were a thing of beauty. I wish the caps they were given were accurate reproductions of the caps the old timers wore in their day, but considering the NY hasn’t really changed in a long time, I looked past it. Though the freaking MLB logo on the back of the caps I could have done without. Anyone have close-up shots of the re-enactors who represented the 1923 and 1951(?) players?

    Paul, thanks for pointing out what the hell that logo was on Reggie’s cap! Even my wife saw it and asked why he wasn’t wearing a Yankees cap while he was doing the interviews.

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”290829″]Besides, not even conservatives can stand the guy. Witness his dreadful showing in the party primaries.[/quote]
    Because Republicans, through their primary votes, thought their were better Presidential candidates than Giuliani, that means that fellow conservatives can’t stand the guy? Or, because the same reason that some Democrats will not vote for their black candidate come November was the same reason why some Republicans did not vote for an Italian man during the primaries, that means conservatives can’t stand the guy? Really?

    Sorry, Mr. Michaels, that the little midwest cocoon you are in provides you such a narrow view.

  • E_Ro | September 22, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”290812″][quote comment=”290807″][quote comment=”290798″]
    Hmmm this is the first I have ever heard of this. Wonder if it’s a league wide thing…[/quote]

    All the new breezers say “Reebok” on them.[/quote]

    Sticks as well (note the picture I posted at #82).[/quote]

    Also in NHL 09, the dasher ads all say Reebok. As much as I hate what reebok has done to hockey, i think reebok is hell of a lot more classier than “rbk”.

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    Pardon my awful spelling.
    “their” s/b “there”
    And, to think, I used to edit my high school newspaper…

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”290814″]Paul has every right to fill this blog with any type of content he wants so I’m not going to complain that I’m going to stop reading because of this post or anything to that effect. What really bothers me is the number of you complaining about “God Bless America.” The Yankee organization has chosen to take about 2 minutes during the seventh inning to recognize that this country is at war and to remember those who are defending this country all over the world. Whether you agree with the reasons for this war is irrelevant, its merely meant to remember that there are people over there who may never make it home. If you watch a Yankee game on t.v. and see the number of flags, etc. in the crowd during the seventh inning its obvious this doesn’t bother the fans at the game. Sorry if it inconveniences you to have to take a moment to remember the men and women of our armed forces.[/quote]
    My two cents: post-9/11, “God Bless America” has taken on a life of its own. My personal opinion is that aside from Sundays and holidays, teams should play “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” at the 7th inning stretch.

    I mean, we play “The Star Spangled Banner” before EVERY game and that’s the National Anthem. Exactly how much honoring America is needed at a baseball game.

    My friends and I attend an amateur baseball tournament every summer and they started doing this at their night games. No more “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” at all, only “God Bless America. I’m sorry, it’s a baseball game, people want to hear “Take Me Out to the Ballgame”. That doesn’t make me any less American. Once “God Bless America” is over, we sing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” ourselves and it has gone over very well. I had an old man come up to me and say “thanks for doing that”. And one of the guys doing it with us has served in the military.

    It’s like the joke of “security” that they put you through at SOME venues as if to give some false sense of security. Tell me why I go through security in seconds at Indianapolis Motor Speedway yet I have to wait nearly 30 minutes to get through Heinz Field (and at a Pitt game to boot!)?

    I said it right after 9/11 and I’ll say it again, when we start changing the way we live our lives and way of doing things, God damned terrorists win.

  • random reader | September 22, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”290837″]Buried in all the other stuff is a good point that wasn’t mentioned very much. The stadium that’s being torn down isn’t the original Yankee Stadium. Some of the original parts are still there, but if you take away the propaganda, it’s really just an average ballpark built in the 70s, with some nice nostalgic touches. The stadium where Ruth and Charlie Connerly played doesn’t exist anymore.[/quote]

    Enough of the semantics. The Stadium may look different but it’s still the same Yankee Stadium in my book.

    This is the only Yankee Stadium I know (since I was born long after it was renovated). Is it wrong for other fans like me to celebrate its history?

    [quote comment=”290759″]
    3) I can assure you that this has nothing about me being a Mets fan. For the record: I’m no fan of the Wilpons, I cringe at the very sound of the name “Citi Field,” and my embarrassment over the Mets’ longstanding marketing approach (best described as suburban lite) is well-documented. Yes, the Yankees are a much more successful franchise than the Mets. Yes, they were a much better team than the Mets in 2000 (and would’ve won that World Series even if Timo had run harder). Yes, Yankee Stadium is a much more historic and important ballpark than Shea (although Shea is more important to me personally, simply because I’m a Mets fan). But none of that has anything to do with my feelings about Yankee Stadium as a cultural signifier.
    [/quote]

    I was hoping for tidbits about the old-style Yankee uniforms the old-timers wore (I was honestly expecting complaints about the Adidas shoes they wore since they are technically anachronisms) but instead I had to read this biased rant about the Yankees. Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.

  • Adam Vaggalis | September 22, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”290752″][quote comment=”290738″]Does anyone know where I can get those t-shirts Yankee fans were wearing with a basic navy t-shirt with “The Captain” arched in white over the #15, or a “REG-GIE” arched over a 44 all on the left breast of the t-shirt. I have seen them before with a Don Mattingly and Joe Dimaggio 23 and 5. I need HELP![/quote]

    Here in New York and the rest of the metro area, Modell’s is a popular sporting goods franchise. You can find almost all of those T-Shirt jerseys there.

    Another one is the Sports Authority.

    If neither of them have them, check out Mickey’sPlace online.

    Hope that helps![/quote]

    Thanks for the tip, anyone else have any leads to where I can get one of these Yankee tees? Online? Go Yankees!

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”290845″]Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.[/quote]

    I’ve got a big ESPN column-plus-video coming later this week, devoted to Shea’s overlooked visual details, past and present. I wish I could do this for every stadium, frankly, but Shea is the only one I know well enough.

    When that column runs, some of you will no doubt complain that I’m pro-Shea and anti-Yankee Stadium, but that’s really an apples/oranges thing. Shea isn’t a particularly powerful cultural signifier — never has been, unless you count the Beatles. I’ll be discussing its visual details because that’s pretty much all it’s got. Yankee Stadium is a much more complex proposition, and that’s why I wrote about it in the terms I chose today.

  • Talon Lardner | September 22, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    Forgive my ignorance, but were the old Yankees uniform really that sepia toned back in the day, or is it the sort of thing like how newspapers come pre-yellowed like in bad Western movies?

    As for the rant, I don’t mind it too much, there’s parts I agree with, and parts I disagree with, but if I were to eliminate every site with an opinion I disagreed with from my daily web crawl, I’d have a VERY boring web crawl.

  • Beantown | September 22, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”290760″]And this entire outcry and rage towards Paul’s commentary towards The Evil Empire is why I follow hockey.

    While the commissioner and owners may be somewhat corrupt, the product on the ice is still bigger than everything else. And that’s what “sport” is entirely about.[/quote]

    Kudos! I’m with this guy. I don’t care anymore that being a hockey-krishna entails verbal abuse, and the same sort of reaction from some that being a WNBA fan incites.

    As far as Paul’s comments, I’m a Red Sox fan so I’m always up for a good Yankee bashing, but I thought it was a bit over the top. The Yankees are arrogant no doubt, both organization and fan-base, but racism claims seem a bit over the top. To each their own though.

    Side Note: Is is just me, or are the System of Dress jerseys getting a lot more spacious than the original designs? I remember when the first batch came out, I was watching a Syracuse game and they looked absurd. I don’t think that those Dayton unis look as tight.

  • Mike D | September 22, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    The Yankees have always been, continue to be, and will always be the classiest sports organization in America. ‘Nuff said!

    Go Yankees!

    The old school uniforms looked good. It would have been nice if the Yankees wore those uniforms in a game this year.

  • Al G | September 22, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    If I wanted loony political thought I would watch Keith Olberman. Can’t you just talk about uni’s?

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    As for the rant, I don’t mind it too much, there’s parts I agree with, and parts I disagree with, but if I were to eliminate every site with an opinion I disagreed with from my daily web crawl, I’d have a VERY boring web crawl.

    Fair enough, I mean, it is the blogosphere and an occasional dabble into off-topic material is OK.

    However, when the owner of the site not to long ago puts a message out in the comments that too many people are starting comments off with “not uni-related but…” and that we should try to keep things on topic, then, on a blog advertised as “The Obsessive Study of Athletics Aesthetics” authors a four paragraph rant, not in the least bit uni-related…well, you could see why some might smell hypocrisy and be a tad pissed off.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”290851″]If I wanted loony political thought I would watch Keith Olberman. Can’t you just talk about uni’s?[/quote]

    Can’t you? ;o)

    Look… if you don’t like it, you certainly have the right to bitch and complain, but what good does it do?

    I’ve never understood why people complain about someone’s opinion. Not fact, opinion.

    I mean, we’re talking about practice. Practice… wait, that’s another rant altogether. LOL

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”290852″]

    As for the rant, I don’t mind it too much, there’s parts I agree with, and parts I disagree with, but if I were to eliminate every site with an opinion I disagreed with from my daily web crawl, I’d have a VERY boring web crawl.

    Fair enough, I mean, it is the blogosphere and an occasional dabble into off-topic material is OK.

    However, when the owner of the site not to long ago puts a message out in the comments that too many people are starting comments off with “not uni-related but…” and that we should try to keep things on topic, then, on a blog advertised as “The Obsessive Study of Athletics Aesthetics” authors a four paragraph rant, not in the least bit uni-related…well, you could see why some might smell hypocrisy and be a tad pissed off.[/quote]

    Sigh. A few points:

    1) We established a long time ago that fields and stadiums and arenas were part of Uni Watch’s purview.

    2) Indeed, I think if I hadn’t mentioned Yankee Stadium today, a lot of people would’ve thought I’d lost my mind.

    3) I mentioned some specifics of the Yankee Stadium experience — the organ, the P.A., “God Bless America,” Sinatra, the gold leaf being used at the new ballpark, etc. — and riffed on them. To say that I ignored “what Uni Watch is supposed to be about” is simply wrong. You may not like how I riffed or the direction I went in, but my points of reference were the kinds of small, experiential details that this site has always been about.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    One of the most beautiful things is hearing some old-timer reminisce about old-time baseball. My father-in-law lived through a lot of the Yankees championships and to have him regale us with tales about Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, etc. is really awesome. Never once, have I heard him, or any other old-timer, mention anything about the Yankees having 26 titles, about the Yankees being the greatest sports franchise in history, blah blah blah blah. Those are lines spouted by the current generation of “fans”, many of whom embraced the team once it started winning again in the late 90’s and could care less about the greats of the past, save for those 26 titles and the bragging rights they feel that come with them.

    My personal favorite is when you find a so-called “lifelong Yankee fan” who doesn’t know the team started out as a transplanted Baltimore franchise and was christened as the Highlanders, doesn’t know who Thurman Munson was, or just knows Yogi Berra as “that old guy who does Aflac commercials”. And yet these are the same people who walk around telling you that your team sucks because it doesn’t have as many titles as the Yankees. Yeah, we get it. The Yankees have a long history of excellence. They have 26 titles, about 20 or so of which you were never around for.

    It never fails to amaze me how someone will root for another team, and yet here comes the Yankee “fan” with “yeah, but they’ll never be as good as the Yankees because they don’t have 26 titles.” Along those lines, I never understand why Yankee “fans” are threatened by “that team in Flushing” and never spare any opportunity to point out that, wow, the Mets don’t have 26 titles like the Yankees. I guess the fact that the Yankees started playing in 1903 and the Mets didn’t debut until 59 years later couldn’t possibly play some role in the Yankees having a huge lead in the championships department. Quite honestly, that says more about the level of insecurity of the Yankee “fan” than it does about Mets fans, who are always goofed on as having “little brother syndrome”. It somehow becomes a crime to root for your team. God forbid you even attempt to make totally valid points like “the Mets won the Subway Series this year 4 games to 2”, because the Yankee “fan” responds with an almost Pavlovian “THE YANKEES HAVE 26 TITLES!!!!!”

    If that’s what being a Yankee “fan” is all about, then you can keep it. If it makes you feel better about yourself and your place in life to have a t-shirt that says “We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves”, knock yourself out. Sadly, being a Yankee “fan” has become little more than an expression of elitism and the “in-thing” to do than it is about having pride in your team. I’m perfectly content with my team’s 2 championships and good times, memories and longtime friends I have experienced and made over the years.

    Nice piece today Paul. Good for you that you got to express what it was that you felt on your own blog. Sometimes the truth hurts.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”290822″]cannot locate any photos but….
    baldwin wallace wore all yellow this weekend when the played john carroll-saw the game on tv. john it self has horrible typography and gold numbers which do not really stand out. they changed their classic-notre dame style look. but if anyone can find the photos-its not pretty.[/quote]

    Here’s some of the other combos they’ve worn:

    http://www.bw.edu/at...

    However, on the John Caroll website, this was said to have come from Saturday’s game:

    http://www.jcusports...

    Here’s a pic from BW practice:

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote]Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.[/quote]

    except the mets will be playing baseball in shea in october

  • Ian K | September 22, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”290767″]
    Yes, it is so annoying to have to listen to a patriotic song instead of some semi-celebrity stumble through “Take Me Out to the Ball Game”. Us stupid, patriotic Americans, how dare we enjoy something that truly reps people who still give a shit about their country?
    [/quote]

    The “semi-celebrity” singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame does not happen at every game at every park. It’s rarely done at the Ballpark in Arlington and wasn’t done at the game I went to at Dodger Stadium this year. But I do prefer singing that to God Bless America…feels more right to me.

    I don’t post as much as I used to, but I still come every day for quality writing from Paul and others that I can read for free. And I will continue wearing purple to cheer on my alma mater regardless of the dominant feelings ’round these parts…

  • Patrick | September 22, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”290851″]If I wanted loony political thought I would watch Keith Olberman. Can’t you just talk about uni’s?[/quote]

    So, you want to “just talk about uni’s” after getting in your partisan political jab? Funny.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”290856″][quote comment=”290822″]cannot locate any photos but….
    baldwin wallace wore all yellow this weekend when the played john carroll-saw the game on tv. john it self has horrible typography and gold numbers which do not really stand out. they changed their classic-notre dame style look. but if anyone can find the photos-its not pretty.[/quote]

    Here’s some of the other combos they’ve worn:

    http://www.bw.edu/at...

    However, on the John Caroll website, this was said to have come from Saturday’s game:

    http://www.jcusports...

    Here’s a pic from BW practice:

    http://img.photobuck...

    Sorry to quote myself…but I viewed the album that the BW pic came from and it is a TREASURE TROVE of Cleveland sports stuff, including:

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    Where are the solid brown in the last pic?

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm |

    mr. met

    well said, mi amigo

    when i came into the office this morning, my 24-year-old yankee-loving co-worker said, “so did you see the festivities last night? guess YOU (meaning met fans? the met organization? casual observer???) won’t have such a sendoff”

    to which i replied, as sarcastically as i am on here, “typical yankee excess”

    he literally went ballistic, saying something to the effect that “well, when YOU win (implying, i guess, that he had done so singlehandedly) 26 rings, then you can talk to me about excess”

    he’s also a fan of the cowboys and bulls (gee…wonder when he grew up)…

    i can only surmise that had the mets had the same success during the late 90’s-early oughts that the yanks had, he’d be a met fan now

    /kids today ;)

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    Where are the solid brown in the last pic?

    I meant this pic:
    http://img.photobuck...

  • Justin in AR | September 22, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    I agree with the poster who said the Bills vs. Raiders game was a visually perfect game.

    Speaking of the Raiders, Lane Kiffin is supposed to be fired today. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rob Ryan is the interim coach. It appears he enjoys throwing Kiffin under the bus and he and Al Davis are apparently pretty tight. Anyone else have an opinion on this?

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”290854″][quote comment=”290852″]

    As for the rant, I don’t mind it too much, there’s parts I agree with, and parts I disagree with, but if I were to eliminate every site with an opinion I disagreed with from my daily web crawl, I’d have a VERY boring web crawl.

    Fair enough, I mean, it is the blogosphere and an occasional dabble into off-topic material is OK.

    However, when the owner of the site not to long ago puts a message out in the comments that too many people are starting comments off with “not uni-related but…” and that we should try to keep things on topic, then, on a blog advertised as “The Obsessive Study of Athletics Aesthetics” authors a four paragraph rant, not in the least bit uni-related…well, you could see why some might smell hypocrisy and be a tad pissed off.[/quote]

    Sigh. A few points:

    1) We established a long time ago that fields and stadiums and arenas were part of Uni Watch’s purview.

    2) Indeed, I think if I hadn’t mentioned Yankee Stadium today, a lot of people would’ve thought I’d lost my mind.

    3) I mentioned some specifics of the Yankee Stadium experience — the organ, the P.A., “God Bless America,” Sinatra, the gold leaf being used at the new ballpark, etc. — and riffed on them. To say that I ignored “what Uni Watch is supposed to be about” is simply wrong. You may not like how I riffed or the direction I went in, but my points of reference were the kinds of small, experiential details that this site has always been about.[/quote]
    Sometimes you just don’t get it.

    Sure, ballparks, etc are part of Uni-related territory but it’s a stretch to say your opening four paragraphs are really in the spirit of that. You used the blog as your personal soapbox to put your opinion our there. Look, I already said I disagree and think you’re views are a little misguided. Do I want you to stop speaking your mind on topics uni and non-uni related? No effin’ way.

    Sometimes you just come off as the guy that says he’s all about free exchange of opinion, open dialogue, etc but the second someone doesn’t see it your way, you take your ball and go home.

    I’ve learned a long time ago you’re going to do what the fuck you want to do anyway. So people saying “I don’t come here for politics”, give it up. Not going to happen.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    Since it came up during the olympics:
    http://www.iht.com/a...

  • jesse | September 22, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    the Mets won the Subway Series this year 4 games to 2″, because the Yankee “fan” responds with an almost Pavlovian THE YANKEES HAVE 26 TITLES!!!!!

    Lincoln Financial Field Bathroom at the conclusion of yesterday’s game…

    Eagles fan: STEELERS SUCK!

    Steelers Fan: Yeah but we’ve got FIVE RINGS!!

    Different Eagles Fan: That’s true, you should put them in the game and see if they can block better than your offensive line.

  • Beeker | September 22, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    Just a few Monday comments.
    1) Over the weekend I watched the Raiders/Bills game and during the post-game news conferencesce, I noticed that one of the Raiders coaches was wearing a GU pin on the collar of his white Radiers windbreaker. Hadn’t seen that before – sorry no screenshot.

    2) Saw a great video on the creation of the ice for the Minnesota Wild – here’s the link – http://link.brightco...

    3) My Alma Matter just re-named their basketball court. From the PR – Saint John’s names court in honor of winningest coach in Minnesota collegiate history. Here’s the PR – http://www.gojohnnie..., and here is a great set of photos of the transformation- http://www.flickr.co...

    Enjoy, and Paul, keep speaking your mind, it’s what this country is all about.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    “THE YANKEES HAVE 26 TITLES!!!!!”

    Had to deal with one of these clowns when the Yanks came to PNC this summer.

    Drunk and had been going at it for a long time and finally my brother-in-law yells “Oh sit down, you weren’t alive for three fourths of them!”

    Cue of tongue tied drunk guy to sit the hell down!

  • Jim McCue | September 22, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    Regarding politics, I just skip past those opinions and check the links and the rest of the uni-related stuff. No reason to get bent over Paul expressing his views on the Yankees/corporate America, etc.

    As for the stadium program vendor, all I could think of was this:

    http://www.gohuckyou...

  • ALK | September 22, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    All history/memories aside, Yankee stadium was a dump and I definately will not miss it. It was dirty, the facilities sucked and it smelled like a piss soaked subway platform. Hopefully the new stadium will provide a much better experience.

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”290870″]All history/memories aside, Yankee stadium was a dump and I definately will not miss it. It was dirty, the facilities sucked and it smelled like a piss soaked subway platform. Hopefully the new stadium will provide a much better experience.[/quote]
    Be prepared to copy-and-paste this verbatim into the comments for Paul’s Shea post next week…

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”290862″]Where are the solid brown in the last pic?

    I meant this pic:
    http://img.photobuck...

    Didn’t the Browns have two sets of white pants at one point? The one that you posted has a thin white stripe in-between the brown and orange stripes. But they also wore a pair that had no thin white stripe, just brown-orange-brown. I remember first noticing that in one of the Madden games, where they wore one pair of white pants with the brown top and a different pair of white pants with the white tops.

    Speaking of Madden, really disappointed with the uniforms in the 09 version of the game. They left out a lot of them from the previous editions. Hope eventually they have some downloads that will correct that; I remember for one of the previous editions you were able to download throwback uniforms, which was pretty neat.

  • Frank in G'ville | September 22, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    I almost never post here, mostly because by the time i sign on anything I had noticed has long since been beaten to death.

    Now Paul can rant, rave, and spit whatever he likes till he passes out, his blog his rules. He cannot however accuse all Yankees fans of being racist and not expect backlash.

    As for the ‘young people are only Yankee fans because they win’ junk let me speak for at least a few of us. I may only be 20, I may have never seen the Reggie years, not to mention the golden era. I never survived what my father refers to as the dark ages (even though he thinks Reagan should have been king). But I understand what the Yankees are and I hate the bandwagon assclowns who can only shout 26 at the top of their lungs. There are some of us who understand what the Yankees are and take pride in that tradition, and no we are not racist, we do not wish it were 1957 and that “negroes and women knew their place”

    Paul you blog is something of a gem, don’t let your politics push readers away, after all its like MJ once said, “Republicans buy sneakers too.”

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”290864″]You used the blog as your personal soapbox to put your opinion out there.[/quote]

    That’s what I do every single day.

    [quote comment=”290864″]Sometimes you just come off as the guy that says he’s all about free exchange of opinion, open dialogue, etc but the second someone doesn’t see it your way, you take your ball and go home.[/quote]

    What are you talking about? I’m here every day, I haven’t closed off the comments, I’m debating the points people bring up, etc. So now sticking up for my point of view, because I believe in it, is “taking my ball and going home”?

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    Frank in G’Ville — VERY well written.

    Especially for a twenty-year-old. ;)

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”290871″][quote comment=”290870″]All history/memories aside, Yankee stadium was a dump and I definately will not miss it. It was dirty, the facilities sucked and it smelled like a piss soaked subway platform. Hopefully the new stadium will provide a much better experience.[/quote]
    Be prepared to copy-and-paste this verbatim into the comments for Paul’s Shea post next week…[/quote]

    i think i can speak for most mets fans when you say that…i know i think shea is a dump (facility wise)…it’s also 46 years old…unlike yankee stadium, which is, in reality, only 32…BIG difference

    i, for one, welcome our new corporate overlords (citi) and the beautiful new cathedral our tax dollars (or part of them anyway) will be erecting

  • Minna H. | September 22, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    Paul, I know you got a lot of guff today for your ‘rant’, (I skimmed, but didn’t read, and I knew as I read that a core of the site’s readership would be up in arms), so I just wanted to let you know that some of us (ok, me) enjoy it when you wax politic. To those who don’t like it, that’s fine, too, but do what I do in such a situation–grit your teeth and take it like a man/woman/grownup.

    I DO come here for thoughtful discourse, and not just on unis. Paul said it best when he stated that all these things affect all of us, and it’s just not realistic to parse out everything considered not uni-related because context adds importance and sports don’t exist in a vacuum.

    I say this in part because I just watched my state strong-arm the citizens of Hennepin County, one of the poorer counties in MN, into paying for a billionaire’s ballpark, and then they turn around and take money from Target in order for Target to be able to name said ballpark. Hennepin County Taxpayers’ Stadium SHOULD be the name because they are the ones paying for it. Yes, these things matter.

    Hey, Teebz, any room for me on that hockey bandwagon? I promise I won’t wear a pink Wild! jersey.

    On to unis–I am glad Georgia is wearing all black this weekend. They are one of my favorite teams, (I love the SEC for some unknown reason), black is my favorite color, and the marriage of the two is a thing of beauty.

    As for Rutgers, I just think they were trying to put on airs by spelling the team’s name the French way.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”290863″]I agree with the poster who said the Bills vs. Raiders game was a visually perfect game.

    Speaking of the Raiders, Lane Kiffin is supposed to be fired today. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rob Ryan is the interim coach. It appears he enjoys throwing Kiffin under the bus and he and Al Davis are apparently pretty tight. Anyone else have an opinion on this?[/quote]

    I jut don’t get Al Davis’ animus towards Lane Kiffin. Dude, you hired him. That was your call. And everyone knows that that was your call because you don’t listen to anybody else’s opinion in that organization. It’s not like there were write-ups in SI or ESPN The Magazine calling Lane Kiffin the hot young college coach who should get an NFL shot. Until you hired, I didn’t even know Monte had a son!

    Yeah Rob Ryan and Al Davis are extremely close. They both work hand-in-hand drawing up the defensive schemes for the club. Whatever. Rob Ryan will get burnt by Al Davis somewhere down the line, because the only person Al Davis has never screwed is Al Davis.

  • Udo | September 22, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    I signed up for this blog because it seemed somewhat charming at the time. But it’s not: sadly self-inflated and fixated on some of the most esoteric stuff in the culture, while simultaneously a repository for clumsy and bizarrely out-of-place attempts at political philosophy. It’s lame that I subscribed for as long as I did.
    I agree (passionately, actually) with everyone who says the author has the right to say whatever he wants. As do I. No more for me, thanks.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    Frank in G’ville, you’re one of the good guys, the ones that can sit down with a Mets fan (or any other fan, for that matter) and have great discussions about baseball over some beers. Even though you’re only 20 years old.

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”290876″]i know i think shea is a dump (facility wise)…it’s also 46 years old…unlike yankee stadium, which is, in reality, only 32…BIG difference[/quote]
    If only to keep with the theme of breaking each other’s b_lls, I’ll point out that Shea is only 44 years old…

  • JTH | September 22, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    So where is it in Paul’s post that he brands all Yankees fans as racists?

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”290881″][quote comment=”290876″]i know i think shea is a dump (facility wise)…it’s also 46 years old…unlike yankee stadium, which is, in reality, only 32…BIG difference[/quote]
    If only to keep with the theme of breaking each other’s b_lls, I’ll point out that Shea is only 44 years old…[/quote]

    christ…my bad

    IM 42…and shea is 2 years older…42+2=46?

    somehow my math skills went down the shitter…well it IS monday

    keep on breakin my balls when i make THAT big a error ;)

  • Wollen1 | September 22, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”290839″][quote comment=”290825″]you attacked America and its values …[/quote]

    This is, hands down, the comment of the day. And now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go burn a flag, reread ‘Trotsky for Dummies,’ and answer all my e-mail from Fidel.[/quote]

    Never feel like it’s a bad thing to take a “cheap shot” at No. 1 Yankee fan d-bag Rudi Guiliani. It amazes me how right wingers despise so much liberal political correctness in society, yet when somebody criticizes them or their ways, they whine and cry like they just had feces thrown on them.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”290877″]
    Hey, Teebz, any room for me on that hockey bandwagon? I promise I won’t wear a pink Wild! jersey.
    [/quote]

    Absolutely, Minna. The few of us who live in the hockey wing always appreciate “the converted”. Just make sure to bring back the Wild’s green uniforms!!! ;o)

  • Chris M | September 22, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”290796″][quote comment=”290775″]With the Broncos’ orange alts, they used an orange captain patch–I’m pretty sure that they are only the second NFL team to have two different captains\’ patches. Joe Skiba pointed out last year that the Giants have both a blue and red version. Please correct me if I\’m wrong.[/quote]
    The bears wore orange captain patches with their alternate jerseys last year: http://www.brendanmc...
    [quote comment=”290796″][quote comment=”290775″]With the Broncos’ orange alts, they used an orange captain patch–I’m pretty sure that they are only the second NFL team to have two different captains’ patches. Joe Skiba pointed out last year that the Giants have both a blue and red version. Please correct me if I’m wrong.[/quote]
    The bears wore orange captain patches with their alternate jerseys last year: http://www.brendanmc...

    Don’t forget the Bills as well:

    Regular and Throwback

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”290874″][quote comment=”290864″]You used the blog as your personal soapbox to put your opinion out there.[/quote]

    That’s what I do every single day.

    [quote comment=”290864″]Sometimes you just come off as the guy that says he’s all about free exchange of opinion, open dialogue, etc but the second someone doesn’t see it your way, you take your ball and go home.[/quote]

    What are you talking about? I’m here every day, I haven’t closed off the comments, I’m debating the points people bring up, etc. So now sticking up for my point of view, because I believe in it, is “taking my ball and going home”?[/quote]
    I do get the feeling sometimes that you try and close debates off by saying “move on”. (Not that you did it today, just saying.)

    Also, I don’t know how you can make a post like today’s and then seem surprised that you might piss a few people off.

  • Frank in G'ville | September 22, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    Thanks Al,
    And Mr. Met I didn’t mention but I’m also an Iggles fan so I have learned to take pride but also take shit from all angles. As long as who ever I am talking with tries to make good points I’m all in, sports, politics, UF vs. your college, its all in good fun.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    “WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.

  • Happy Joe | September 22, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”290823″][quote comment=”290819″]The holder for Scobee’s game winning field goal was also wearing his wedding band and a rather large wrist watch.[/quote]

    Sorry, not Scobee, Gramatica’s kick.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Thanks Smail. That was the guy I was thinking of.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”290887″]I do get the feeling sometimes that you try and close debates off by saying “move on”. (Not that you did it today, just saying.)[/quote]

    i don’t care who started it, i don’t care who was acting as the voice of reason vs. the voice of nastiness, and I don’t care whose point of view was misrepresented by whom…i just want it to stop…now

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”290890″][quote comment=”290823″][quote comment=”290819″]The holder for Scobee’s game winning field goal was also wearing his wedding band and a rather large wrist watch.[/quote]

    Sorry, not Scobee, Gramatica’s kick.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Thanks Smail. That was the guy I was thinking of.[/quote]

    I’ve seen guy like Torry Holt and some DB’s use the biking shorts, but a kicker? Those things are way up on his thighs. He’s such a small guy, those things must have been made for a 5-year old if they fit him like that. Grammatica sure looks weird……

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”290887″]
    Also, I don’t know how you can make a post like today’s and then seem surprised that you might piss a few people off.[/quote]

    This is in no way a shot at you, Kek, but it brings up an interesting point.

    I’m far from being interested in American politicking, but, as a social experiment, why does it matter to everyone what Paul says regarding his views on his blog?

    If you find something you don’t like on TV, do you write the ombudsman of that station and have it pulled? Do you ask the FCC to pull the station’s license and have them reviewed?

    No, you simply turn the channel. The internet is the same thing – just change the channel.

    I don’t hear anyone canceling their cable and satellite connections because Tina Fey was mocking Sarah Palin on SNL. And I’m quite certain that USA Today is still read by millions even though they have an editorial section that routinely rips political candidates and ideas. You simply turn the page, and move on.

    Honestly, people, for every accusation that people have made of Paul being on his soapbox, you’ve pulled out your own. Before you point fingers, check how many are pointing back at yourself.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”290894″][quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.[/quote]

    That would be a post, not an e-mail

    That would be a post, not an e-mail

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”290891″][quote comment=”290887″]I do get the feeling sometimes that you try and close debates off by saying “move on”. (Not that you did it today, just saying.)[/quote]

    i don’t care who started it, i don’t care who was acting as the voice of reason vs. the voice of nastiness, and I don’t care whose point of view was misrepresented by whom…i just want it to stop…now[/quote]
    THANK YOU! Wasn’t going to go there but that was classic. Especially since Chance and I pretty much resolved that issue before Paul even got back and I thought that post was unneeded and simply an “I’m-in-charge” power move. Plus, I didn’t think it was nasty at all, I thought it was an honest debate.

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”290894″]Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.[/quote]

    The reason people (myself included) say “So start your own site” or “If you don’t like it, go read something else” so frequently is that it’s a very appropriate response to someone complaining about the content on a free site that was created as an expressive outlet for one person’s sensibility.

    If someone keeps asking me “How much is 2 + 2?”, I’ll keep saying 4, and the answer will still be right, no matter how tiresome or “[un]original” you find it to be.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    check it out!

    [/green dots, yellow “c”s, and 21 stickers]

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”290895″][quote comment=”290894″][quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.[/quote]

    That would be a post, not an e-mail

    That would be a post, not an e-mail[/quote]
    My bad, of course I meant post. (not sure why you needed to say it twice)

    It doesn’t make your post any smarter or more original though.

  • Duckstyle | September 22, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”290894″][quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.[/quote]

    You could probably add:
    5. Kek again goes out of his way to disagree with (insert what Paul said in today’s post)

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”290893″][quote comment=”290887″]
    Also, I don’t know how you can make a post like today’s and then seem surprised that you might piss a few people off.[/quote]

    This is in no way a shot at you, Kek, but it brings up an interesting point.

    I’m far from being interested in American politicking, but, as a social experiment, why does it matter to everyone what Paul says regarding his views on his blog?

    If you find something you don’t like on TV, do you write the ombudsman of that station and have it pulled? Do you ask the FCC to pull the station’s license and have them reviewed?

    No, you simply turn the channel. The internet is the same thing – just change the channel.

    I don’t hear anyone canceling their cable and satellite connections because Tina Fey was mocking Sarah Palin on SNL. And I’m quite certain that USA Today is still read by millions even though they have an editorial section that routinely rips political candidates and ideas. You simply turn the page, and move on.

    Honestly, people, for every accusation that people have made of Paul being on his soapbox, you’ve pulled out your own. Before you point fingers, check how many are pointing back at yourself.[/quote]

    It’s funny that you say that, Teebz. Howe many times have I seen this same thing done on other sites? The Daily News has some sportswriters (most famously Mike Lupica, Gary Myers and Bob Raissman) who are, shall we say, incendiary. So much so that every time they put out a column (save for Lupica, who the paper doesn’t allow comments for), 9 times out of 10 the comment will be something along tyhe lines “Myers/Raissman, you’re a hack, I don’t know why the paper keep employing you, your column is the worst crap ever…” etc. etc. etc. It’s amazing how that happens every time. And I start thinking to myself, Jeez, if you hate the guy and his work so much, why the hell do you keep reading it every time he puts up a new column?

    It just seems to be that your approach is the right one: If you despise that particular aspect of Paul’s blog, then why do you read it? As someone else mentioned before, why not just skip it and move on to the parts you like? Hell, there have been columns of Paul’s that I have found downright boring and useless, but hey, someone else might be into it and so that column is tailored for that person.

    I’m sure some of it can be chalked up to self importance; some people think that the world should revolve around what they like or dislike, and how dare you put up something that they don’t think belongs. Whatever. It’s just easier, and would save a lot of time having to look though 20-30 posts that keep saying the same thing, if you just look at it, and if you don’t like it, just move on to what you do like.

    That’s the beautiful thing abou it: Nobody is forcing you to read it. If you don’t like it, just move on.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”290899″][quote comment=”290895″][quote comment=”290894″][quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.[/quote]

    That would be a post, not an e-mail

    That would be a post, not an e-mail[/quote]
    My bad, of course I meant post. (not sure why you needed to say it twice)

    It doesn’t make your post any smarter or more original though.[/quote]

    Figured by saying it twice, it would keep an ass like you from bowing up and saying “what did you say?” And the intent of my post wasn’t to try and be smart or original – but to make a point. This site is GENERALLY centered around unis, but if it’s not, so what – that’s Paul’s (or whomever he chooses to replace him) choice – and to disagree and say something like “i think yankee stadium is beautiful” is OK, you don’t have to hate purple and like the Mets. But you can disagree with a point AND not be mad about the content for the day, they are exclusive ideas.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”290900″][quote comment=”290894″][quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.[/quote]

    You could probably add:
    5. Kek again goes out of his way to disagree with (insert what Paul said in today’s post)[/quote]
    Just glad somebody’s noticing!

    So that I’m clear, whenever we disagree, rather than say something, we should just start a new website? OK, I’ll get right on that.

    If someone keeps asking me “How much is 2 + 2?”, I’ll keep saying 4, and the answer will still be right, no matter how tiresome or “[un]original” you find it to be.

    Because YOUR opinions are as factual as 2+2=4?

    Look for the launch of http://www.ilovepurp... in the not-too-distant future.

  • Thorold Blair | September 22, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”290831″]Paul, unfortunately in this post you proved that you are no better than the rest of the whiny Met fans. Don’t be upset because the most World Series have been played at our stadium and that Yankee Stadium is a stadium for winners. Or that we have the richest baseball tradition. Like Coach said before me, enjoy your “cheap Citifield” next year[/quote]

    What position did you play? And when? I’d like to look it up.. Your stadium?

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”290903″]
    So that I’m clear, whenever we disagree, rather than say something, we should just start a new website? OK, I’ll get right on that.
    [/quote]

    Kek, if I asked you to jump through hoops, would you ask me how many?

    Why are you making such a big stink about something YOU CAN’T CONTROL?

  • Justin in AR | September 22, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”290901″][quote comment=”290893″][quote comment=”290887″]
    Also, I don’t know how you can make a post like today’s and then seem surprised that you might piss a few people off.[/quote]

    This is in no way a shot at you, Kek, but it brings up an interesting point.

    I’m far from being interested in American politicking, but, as a social experiment, why does it matter to everyone what Paul says regarding his views on his blog?

    If you find something you don’t like on TV, do you write the ombudsman of that station and have it pulled? Do you ask the FCC to pull the station’s license and have them reviewed?

    No, you simply turn the channel. The internet is the same thing – just change the channel.

    I don’t hear anyone canceling their cable and satellite connections because Tina Fey was mocking Sarah Palin on SNL. And I’m quite certain that USA Today is still read by millions even though they have an editorial section that routinely rips political candidates and ideas. You simply turn the page, and move on.

    Honestly, people, for every accusation that people have made of Paul being on his soapbox, you’ve pulled out your own. Before you point fingers, check how many are pointing back at yourself.[/quote]

    It’s funny that you say that, Teebz. Howe many times have I seen this same thing done on other sites? The Daily News has some sportswriters (most famously Mike Lupica, Gary Myers and Bob Raissman) who are, shall we say, incendiary. So much so that every time they put out a column (save for Lupica, who the paper doesn’t allow comments for), 9 times out of 10 the comment will be something along tyhe lines “Myers/Raissman, you’re a hack, I don’t know why the paper keep employing you, your column is the worst crap ever…” etc. etc. etc. It’s amazing how that happens every time. And I start thinking to myself, Jeez, if you hate the guy and his work so much, why the hell do you keep reading it every time he puts up a new column?

    It just seems to be that your approach is the right one: If you despise that particular aspect of Paul’s blog, then why do you read it? As someone else mentioned before, why not just skip it and move on to the parts you like? Hell, there have been columns of Paul’s that I have found downright boring and useless, but hey, someone else might be into it and so that column is tailored for that person.

    I’m sure some of it can be chalked up to self importance; some people think that the world should revolve around what they like or dislike, and how dare you put up something that they don’t think belongs. Whatever. It’s just easier, and would save a lot of time having to look though 20-30 posts that keep saying the same thing, if you just look at it, and if you don’t like it, just move on to what you do like.

    That’s the beautiful thing abou it: Nobody is forcing you to read it. If you don’t like it, just move on.[/quote]

    Pat Forde at ESPN.com is the same way. Everytime he writes something, someone starts calling him names and takes offense to almost everything he writes. Funny thing is, it’s almost always the same posters. Those people who hate him and his writing seem to always post on his columns.

  • Walaitis | September 22, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    To the Yankee Stadium bloggers. Thanks. I get it. You either think Paul is evil and wrong, or you think he’d dead on and perfect. I got it. Thanks. I understand and appreciate your comments, all 190 of them.

    To the bloggers talking about football, baseball, and hockey jerseys. THANK YOU! That’s why I come here! Keep up the good work.

  • Vince | September 22, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    Partisan, liberal, communist or otherwise, you all seem to have gotten your panties in a bunge over a column that reminds me of the high school kid who reads a little too much into his favorite band’s lyrics.

  • Mike Engle | September 22, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”290796″][quote comment=”290775″]With the Broncos’ orange alts, they used an orange captain patch–I’m pretty sure that they are only the second NFL team to have two different captains’ patches. Joe Skiba pointed out last year that the Giants have both a blue and red version. Please correct me if I’m wrong.[/quote]
    The bears wore orange captain patches with their alternate jerseys last year: http://www.brendanmc...
    The thing about the Giants’ C patches is this: Most teams have a patch of a certain color for the home and away jerseys; in addition, if necessary, they may have another set of C patches of a different color for the alternates. If the Giants were like everybody else, they would have blue C patches on the white jerseys; however, Joe Skiba got permission to use the red patches on the white jerseys for a better color coordination.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”290908″]Partisan, liberal, communist or otherwise, you all seem to have gotten your panties in a bunge over a column that reminds me of the high school kid who reads a little too much into his favorite band’s lyrics.[/quote]

    No THAT’s funny.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”290910″][quote comment=”290908″]Partisan, liberal, communist or otherwise, you all seem to have gotten your panties in a bunge over a column that reminds me of the high school kid who reads a little too much into his favorite band’s lyrics.[/quote]

    No THAT’s funny.[/quote]

    I meant to say:

    Now THAT’s funny.

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”290902″]Figured by saying it twice, it would keep an ass like you from bowing up and saying “what did you say?”[/quote]

    We can disagree without calling each other asses. Thanks.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”290902″][quote comment=”290899″][quote comment=”290895″][quote comment=”290894″][quote comment=”290889″]”WHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAAAAAAAAA! Paul said something:
    a)I don’t agree with
    b)may offend
    c)isn’t PC/
    d)is not representative of me or my circle of friends”

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.[/quote]
    Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.

    In other events:
    1. What’s the deal with the green dot on the back of the QB’s helmet?
    2. Can the refs see that yellow line on the field?
    3. Is this American League pillbox hat I find out ebay a replica of something game worn.
    4. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but the Seahawks wore a plain silver helmet during their first year in the league.[/quote]

    That would be a post, not an e-mail

    That would be a post, not an e-mail[/quote]
    My bad, of course I meant post. (not sure why you needed to say it twice)

    It doesn’t make your post any smarter or more original though.[/quote]

    Figured by saying it twice, it would keep an ass like you from bowing up and saying “what did you say?” And the intent of my post wasn’t to try and be smart or original – but to make a point. This site is GENERALLY centered around unis, but if it’s not, so what – that’s Paul’s (or whomever he chooses to replace him) choice – and to disagree and say something like “i think yankee stadium is beautiful” is OK, you don’t have to hate purple and like the Mets. But you can disagree with a point AND not be mad about the content for the day, they are exclusive ideas.[/quote]
    There seems to be a misconception that I am upset because the political stuff is “off-topic” of what uni-watch is supposed to be. I never said that I was mad about that. I never posted anything like “I don’t come here for politics”. I encouraged Paul to do whatever he likes. I simply stated that I disagreed with him. Even in comment #156, I’m only saying that a perception of hypocrisy might be there but I don’t think that. Only brought it up as food for thought.

    And really, name calling? That’s the lowest form of debate. I’m sure you’re better than that.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    Seriously,

    The NFL is in full swing, as is NCAA football, the final days of the baseball season are upon us.

    We should have MUCH more to discuss than one’s first ammendment rights!

    UW is an escape for most of us, a chance to dive headfirst into what it is we adore.

    Lets focus on that for awhile.

    Between the weekend fiascos where the lion’s share of posts are not wholly, unprovoked jabs at Bryan, to our recent lack of patience with repeated questions, UW is losing some creedence!

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”290904″][quote comment=”290831″]Paul, unfortunately in this post you proved that you are no better than the rest of the whiny Met fans. Don’t be upset because the most World Series have been played at our stadium and that Yankee Stadium is a stadium for winners. Or that we have the richest baseball tradition. Like Coach said before me, enjoy your “cheap Citifield” next year[/quote]

    What position did you play? And when? I’d like to look it up.. Your stadium?[/quote]

    got it covered

    the dude i mention every so often (24 YO yankee fan) is the same way … “we” this and “we” that…

    when i ask him what position he plays, he’s always like “dude, cut me some slack, im just a fan”

    and this is how i feel

  • Scott | September 22, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    All of the anti nike, anti corporate and anti yankees sentiment that comes from this site would make much more sense if the owner of the site didn’t cash a check from the wordwide leader in sports. What started out as a station for highlights now has sportsbars and cell phones and radio stations. Their website clogs up your computer with spyware. The coors light neon signs at my local bar now say espn on them. Was it a coincidence that many of the pictures from PL’s Oregon trip had espn on in the background. Is capitalism good for some and not for others? I am not offended by a swoosh on a receivers glove or PL making a buck. I am also not offended by the occasional political rant on a sports related site. However, hypocrisy is offensive.

  • John Paul Jones | September 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.

    What about the people who have supported this site financially over the years, who did so with the thought they were supporting a venue for the obsessive study of athletics aesthetics and then read childish, politically unsophisticated commentary about the Yankees as a microcosm for everything wrong with this country? Have they not been deceived? What say you Dwight, master of eloquence?

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”290912″][quote comment=”290902″]Figured by saying it twice, it would keep an ass like you from bowing up and saying “what did you say?”[/quote]

    We can disagree without calling each other asses. Thanks.[/quote]

    Apologies to Paul and Kek for the name calling.

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”290903″]

    If someone keeps asking me “How much is 2 + 2?”, I’ll keep saying 4, and the answer will still be right, no matter how tiresome or “[un]original” you find it to be.

    Because YOUR opinions are as factual as 2+2=4?[/quote]

    No. Because MY opinions are what drive this site, and are what this site was created to express. That doesn’t mean that the opinions are always right, or that you have to agree with them, but it does mean that they will always set the agenda. And THAT’S why people who don’t like those opinions or that agenda are free to advance their own agendas on their own sites. And THAT’S why people will keep giving you that answer when you complain about the guy who runs the site expressing his opinions on his site.

    Jeez.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    What’s with the personal attacks on people? Why do some people feel the urge to pull out the internet tough guy routine when trying to make a point? “An ass like you”? What the hell did Kek do to deserve being called an ass?

  • SteveT | September 22, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    I follow this site daily and whilst today’s post was a bit more colourful than I was expecting, I enjoyed it.

    As a non-American, I’m Scottish, many of the points Paul raises are valid and don’t deserve to be labelled as “leftist” – I much prefer to regard them as common sense.

    Even in my small country where knowledge of baseball is virtually non-existent, the Yankees logo is ubiquitous – a brand as opposed to a team.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”290914″]
    The NFL is in full swing, as is NCAA football, the final days of the baseball season are upon us.
    [/quote]

    The fact that you left out the NHL shows your political ignorance, Powers. You’ll pay for this. My threats through my monitor should have you shaking in your boots!!! >:o|

    JUST KIDDING! But it seems that everything gets spun into which politician you’re voting for on this site.

    Keep up the solid work, Powers!

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”290912″][quote comment=”290902″]Figured by saying it twice, it would keep an ass like you from bowing up and saying “what did you say?”[/quote]

    We can disagree without calling each other asses. Thanks.[/quote]
    Thanks Paul…great minds think alike (see #216)…even when we disagree.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”290915″][quote comment=”290904″][quote comment=”290831″]Paul, unfortunately in this post you proved that you are no better than the rest of the whiny Met fans. Don’t be upset because the most World Series have been played at our stadium and that Yankee Stadium is a stadium for winners. Or that we have the richest baseball tradition. Like Coach said before me, enjoy your “cheap Citifield” next year[/quote]

    What position did you play? And when? I’d like to look it up.. Your stadium?[/quote]

    got it covered

    the dude i mention every so often (24 YO yankee fan) is the same way … “we” this and “we” that…

    when i ask him what position he plays, he’s always like “dude, cut me some slack, im just a fan”

    and this is how i feel[/quote]

    ok…that first link was supposed to redirect here (comment #139)…sigh…i can’t do shiat today

  • chance | September 22, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”290887″][quote comment=”290874″]What are you talking about? I’m here every day, I haven’t closed off the comments, I’m debating the points people bring up, etc. So now sticking up for my point of view, because I believe in it, is “taking my ball and going home”?[/quote]
    I do get the feeling sometimes that you try and close debates off by saying “move on”. (Not that you did it today, just saying.)[/quote]
    We see this one a lot, and it always puzzles me – instead of posting based on vague and possibly erroneous impressions about what somebody thinks might have happened in the past, why don’t we stick to today?

  • Skycat | September 22, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”290836″]I’ve read uniwatch for about two years now and i’m also a proud yankee fan. I’m also a liberal who hates the commercialization of everything this country has to offer. The thing is though i root for the yankees, not the corperations that make money off the adevertising or the steinbrenner family and the wealth they make off my hard earned dollar. I root for the team my great grandmother told me to root for when i was a kid, a team that she rooted for because when she got off the boat from Poland she wanted to feel like she was the fabric of the city. Paul i love your blog and i love your views in this post even more but please trash the business side of things stay away from the fans who have many different reasons for rooting for the team.[/quote]
    I agree entirely with the sentiments expressed in the above post. If you are a fan of virtually any professional team, you have no choice but to compartmentalize. There will always be a dichotomy between your interest of a team as fan and of your feelings for ownership and its corporate interests. The Yankees, having the largest platform, are the most extreme example of this dichotomy. For fans, it really does amount to loving the sinner but hating the sin.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”290917″]Pardon my language – but you can all shut the fuck up, start your own site, say what you want, quit crying, and go on your merry fucking way. And kudos to Paul for responding to most of these morons – when he is under no obligation to do so.

    What about the people who have supported this site financially over the years, who did so with the thought they were supporting a venue for the obsessive study of athletics aesthetics and then read childish, politically unsophisticated commentary about the Yankees as a microcosm for everything wrong with this country? Have they not been deceived? What say you Dwight, master of eloquence?[/quote]

    No they have not – Paul is not under any contractual obligation to any reader of this site, because they read every day, purchased an item from a sponsor, or paid for a membership. I may be wrong, I’m not a lawyer, but the site and content on it are free, so I do not believe you have been “deceived”.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”290922″][quote comment=”290914″]
    The NFL is in full swing, as is NCAA football, the final days of the baseball season are upon us.
    [/quote]

    The fact that you left out the NHL shows your political ignorance, Powers. You’ll pay for this. My threats through my monitor should have you shaking in your boots!!! >:o|[/quote]

    well, matt was only referring to the major sports

  • Paul Lukas | September 22, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”290926″][quote comment=”290836″]I’ve read uniwatch for about two years now and i’m also a proud yankee fan. I’m also a liberal who hates the commercialization of everything this country has to offer. The thing is though i root for the yankees, not the corperations that make money off the adevertising or the steinbrenner family and the wealth they make off my hard earned dollar. I root for the team my great grandmother told me to root for when i was a kid, a team that she rooted for because when she got off the boat from Poland she wanted to feel like she was the fabric of the city. Paul i love your blog and i love your views in this post even more but please trash the business side of things stay away from the fans who have many different reasons for rooting for the team.[/quote]
    I agree entirely with the sentiments expressed in the above post.

    If you are a fan of virtually any professional team, you have no choice but to compartmentalize. There will always be a dichotomy between your interest of a team as fan and of your feelings for ownership and its corporate interests. The Yankees, having the largest platform, are the most extreme example of this dichotomy. For fans, it really does amount to loving the sinner but hating the sin.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Best response of the day.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”290920″]What’s with the personal attacks on people? Why do some people feel the urge to pull out the internet tough guy routine when trying to make a point? “An ass like you”? What the hell did Kek do to deserve being called an ass?[/quote]

    I apologized, it was uncalled for, won’t happen again.

  • Kek | September 22, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”290918″][quote comment=”290912″][quote comment=”290902″]Figured by saying it twice, it would keep an ass like you from bowing up and saying “what did you say?”[/quote]

    We can disagree without calling each other asses. Thanks.[/quote]

    Apologies to Paul and Kek for the name calling.[/quote]
    Accepted Dwight, I can tell you’re passionate and I respect that, but we can disagree and be classy about it.

    Thanks Mr. Met, as well.

    I know some of you probably think I just want to stir shit up, but that’s not the case. I love this blog, LOVE IT. I told Ricko in a private email that I’m hopelessly addicted to it… so much that when Paul puts the “gone fishin'” sign up I feel like a vital part of my day has been stripped away.

    That being said, I’m not goint to always agree with Paul or any posters…that’s life. that’s what makes it interesting.

    Now, I think I am done with this topic and will move on. Time for me to leave work and sit in traffic but I’ll fire up the laptop around 5 and check in with you guys.

    Late.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”290930″][quote comment=”290920″]What’s with the personal attacks on people? Why do some people feel the urge to pull out the internet tough guy routine when trying to make a point? “An ass like you”? What the hell did Kek do to deserve being called an ass?[/quote]

    I apologized, it was uncalled for, won’t happen again.[/quote]

    No problem Dwight, I started that before you apologized and then stepped away from the computer for a sec, so it was posted way after you apologized.

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    Wow, I leave the office for a couple hours, come back to find the whole place in an uproar. I think everyone had to much sugar today. Settle down kiddies, play nice, and everyone is entitled to their opinion…

    [quote comment=”290885″][quote comment=”290877″]
    Hey, Teebz, any room for me on that hockey bandwagon? I promise I won’t wear a pink Wild! jersey.
    [/quote]

    Absolutely, Minna. The few of us who live in the hockey wing always appreciate “the converted”. Just make sure to bring back the Wild’s green uniforms!!! ;o)[/quote]

    Never really got an ivite to stay in the hockey wing, but I think i’ve earned a corner in a closet
    somewhere. Minna, you’re welcome to make yourself comfortable, and it’s just a bandwagon if you intend to jump off at sometime :) hope ya don’t.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”290932″]BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?[/quote]

    SOLID black? as in black pants as well???

    god help us all

  • Mike Engle | September 22, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”290932″]BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?[/quote]
    Yes sir
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Kane | September 22, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    I fail to understand the negative backlash today’s post has generated. Yes, I understand the reverence certain fans may have for certain stadiums. However, I don’t understand why today’s entry should come as a “shock” or “surprise” to any readers. Here’s why:

    1.) Sports acts as a metaphor for our society. It says something about us, our will, our culture, etc. It has a similar connection to cultures around the world. Why do you think it is so popular? Because of the action? Sure, that is part of the equation, as action demonstrates a capacity for one’s and one’s culture’s collective will. No, because it hits us on the level that we most readily identify with, our way of life. Don’t buy it? You can learn more at your local university, as most feature a “Sports as Rhetoric” (or similar) course.

    2.) Paul is already on record stating that his interest in uniforms (beyond aesthetic value) is tied to their metaphorical standing as an object of American social relations and its progressive development. His concerns, I believe, of corporate uniform branding is directly tied to this interest, as it says something about the influx of corporate advertising into the private bonds of the American community. These types of entries are part and parcel with his overall concerns. Get used to it.

    3.) Stadiums fulfill a similar function as do uniforms, and, therefore, are subject to similar criticism. They aren’t constructed or maintained in a vacuum. They were built to say something about the team, its owners, its community, etc. It serves a purpose. Yankee’s stadium is no different. I love Wrigley Field, but I also understand that its maintained to mirror the cultural logic of its surrounding area, and, as such, is open to criticism for it (the Budweiser ad controversy further serves my point).

    4.) Before pulling the asshole card on Paul for articulating why he does or does not like something, you need to pull the asshole card on yourself for liking something (sports, in this case) and never bothering to ask why. Failure to do this very simple requirement of life is what led to many of our culture’s current problems that Paul articulated today.

    Always remember this: The practical upshot of humans being unique, symbol-using creatures is our ability to ask and understand the question “why?”. There’s no fault in doing so. There is, however, fault in rejecting that responsibility.

    P.S. Enough with the anti-intellectual shit directed at those who reflect on their personal likes and or dislikes. There are many different answers to each of our individual questions. It isn’t as simple as lumping them and their originators into over/under-thinking categories to prove your point(s) of contention. Articulate the discourse.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”290937″][quote comment=”290932″]BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?[/quote]
    Yes sir
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Gracias.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”290928″]
    well, matt was only referring to the major sports[/quote]

    Touché, Phil, touché indeed. ;o)

    I’ll be in the hockey wing (aka cellar) if you need me. LOL

  • Vince | September 22, 2008 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”290938″]I fail to understand the negative backlash today’s post has generated. Yes, I understand the reverence certain fans may have for certain stadiums. However, I don’t understand why today’s entry should come as a “shock” or “surprise” to any readers. Here’s why:

    1.) Sports acts as a metaphor for our society. It says something about us, our will, our culture, etc. It has a similar connection to cultures around the world. Why do you think it is so popular? Because of the action? Sure, that is part of the equation, as action demonstrates a capacity for one’s and one’s culture’s collective will. No, because it hits us on the level that we most readily identify with, our way of life. Don’t buy it? You can learn more at your local university, as most feature a “Sports as Rhetoric” (or similar) course.

    2.) Paul is already on record stating that his interest in uniforms (beyond aesthetic value) is tied to their metaphorical standing as an object of American social relations and its progressive development. His concerns, I believe, of corporate uniform branding is directly tied to this interest, as it says something about the influx of corporate advertising into the private bonds of the American community. These types of entries are part and parcel with his overall concerns. Get used to it.

    3.) Stadiums fulfill a similar function as do uniforms, and, therefore, are subject to similar criticism. They aren’t constructed or maintained in a vacuum. They were built to say something about the team, its owners, its community, etc. It serves a purpose. Yankee’s stadium is no different. I love Wrigley Field, but I also understand that its maintained to mirror the cultural logic of its surrounding area, and, as such, is open to criticism for it (the Budweiser ad controversy further serves my point).

    4.) Before pulling the asshole card on Paul for articulating why he does or does not like something, you need to pull the asshole card on yourself for liking something (sports, in this case) and never bothering to ask why. Failure to do this very simple requirement of life is what led to many of our culture’s current problems that Paul articulated today.

    Always remember this: The practical upshot of humans being unique, symbol-using creatures is our ability to ask and understand the question “why?”. There’s no fault in doing so. There is, however, fault in rejecting that responsibility.

    P.S. Enough with the anti-intellectual shit directed at those who reflect on their personal likes and or dislikes. There are many different answers to each of our individual questions. It isn’t as simple as lumping them and their originators into over/under-thinking categories to prove your point(s) of contention. Articulate the discourse.[/quote]

    Yikes! Is there a Cliff Notes for this comment?

  • chance | September 22, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”290939″][quote comment=”290937″][quote comment=”290932″]BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?[/quote]
    Yes sir
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Gracias.[/quote]
    I don’t read that as “solid black”, only as black jerseys.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”290922″][quote comment=”290914″]
    The NFL is in full swing, as is NCAA football, the final days of the baseball season are upon us.
    [/quote]

    The fact that you left out the NHL shows your political ignorance, Powers. You’ll pay for this. My threats through my monitor should have you shaking in your boots!!! >:o|

    JUST KIDDING! But it seems that everything gets spun into which politician you’re voting for on this site.

    Keep up the solid work, Powers![/quote]

    Canada already received a slap in the face today, I didn’t want to PYLON!

    I will readily admit my hockey ignorance, however because of your Cliff Claven level of knowledge and your willingness to share, I now appreciate the pure beauty of these items:

    http://sidowsky83.co...
    http://www.zimbio.co...
    http://www.zimbio.co...
    http://upload.wikime...

    So, thank you!

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”290936″][quote comment=”290932″]BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?[/quote]

    SOLID black? as in black pants as well???

    god help us all[/quote]

    oh…ok…cuz in the TICKER…paul wrote

    [quote]Speaking of UGA, they’ll be wearing black this weekend.[/quote]

    so if you read the ticker, you’d know that…i thought you were talking about SOLID black unis (as in pants too)…my bad

  • TimGA | September 22, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    Yes, UGA is wearing black this weekend vs. Bama.

    And, in the words of the great Rodney King:
    “Can we all get along?”

  • John Paul Jones | September 22, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    No they have not – Paul is not under any contractual obligation to any reader of this site, because they read every day, purchased an item from a sponsor, or paid for a membership. I may be wrong, I’m not a lawyer, but the site and content on it are free, so I do not believe you have been “deceived”.

    I don’t feel decieved at all, I think I was trying to make a point about you being so dismissive of others’ reactions to today’s post. If I’d given money to this site to talk abuot uni’s and then read something I found offensive, I would think I was well within the bounds of decency by cyring “foul”.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”290916″]All of the anti nike, anti corporate and anti yankees sentiment that comes from this site would make much more sense if the owner of the site didn’t cash a check from the wordwide leader in sports. What started out as a station for highlights now has sportsbars and cell phones and radio stations. Their website clogs up your computer with spyware. The coors light neon signs at my local bar now say espn on them. Was it a coincidence that many of the pictures from PL’s Oregon trip had espn on in the background. Is capitalism good for some and not for others? I am not offended by a swoosh on a receivers glove or PL making a buck. I am also not offended by the occasional political rant on a sports related site. However, hypocrisy is offensive.[/quote]

    I get the general idea: Paul hates that a corporate entity like Nike tries to plaster its logo on everything it can all the while drawing a paycheck from ESPN, a corporate entity which tries to plaster its logo on everything it can. So you consider that hypocritical.

    Yeah, I guess it is, but in the grand scheme of things, Paul has always stayed true to his opinions and beliefs. I would find it more offensive if, after he got his gig at ESPN (which I always thought was a freelance job but I could be wrong), Uniwatch suddenly became an ESPN billboard, with Paul linking his Page 2 stuff while imploring everyone to become an ESPN Insider and at the same time continuing to bash Nike for their logo creep and other assorted offenses. He has never done that, and I doubt he ever will.

    Guy’s gotta get paid. You can’t fault him for that.

  • bo | September 22, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    why does everyone have to be so negative towards oregons unis. i think theyre awesome. go ducks

  • Jim MI | September 22, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”290943″][quote comment=”290922″][quote comment=”290914″]
    The NFL is in full swing, as is NCAA football, the final days of the baseball season are upon us.
    [/quote]

    The fact that you left out the NHL shows your political ignorance, Powers. You’ll pay for this. My threats through my monitor should have you shaking in your boots!!! >:o|

    JUST KIDDING! But it seems that everything gets spun into which politician you’re voting for on this site.

    Keep up the solid work, Powers![/quote]

    Canada already received a slap in the face today, I didn’t want to PYLON!

    I will readily admit my hockey ignorance, however because of your Cliff Claven level of knowledge and your willingness to share, I now appreciate the pure beauty of these items:

    http://sidowsky83.co...
    http://www.zimbio.co...
    http://www.zimbio.co...
    http://upload.wikime...

    So, thank you![/quote]

    No, Thank you for posting those pics!!

    Hockey season can’t start soon enough…

  • Ricko | September 22, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    Know what touched me most last night?

    Yogi.

    Standing there at home plate, all alone. Smaller than in his playing days. Getting more than a little frail, I imagine. A little old man in a baggy suit that is most famous baseball uniform ever.

    And I thought of a line I once heard about playing the games of summer…for as long as the summer lasts.

    More a Yankee moment, that. A baseball moment.

    We can say all we want about politics or corporate America or sports merchandising, but Yogi, from a time long before players were millionaires, standing there in his cream-colored Yankee pins when his teammates such as DiMaggio, Mantle, Maris, Martin, Howard, Rizzuto and others couldn’t be, was great.

    No, was better than great. Was perfect.

    —Ricko

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”290944″][quote comment=”290936″][quote comment=”290932″]BTW – the reason I originally came on today, heard the Georgia ‘dogs were going solid black this weekend. Any truth to that?[/quote]

    SOLID black? as in black pants as well???

    god help us all[/quote]

    oh…ok…cuz in the TICKER…paul wrote

    [quote]Speaking of UGA, they’ll be wearing black this weekend.[/quote]

    so if you read the ticker, you’d know that…i thought you were talking about SOLID black unis (as in pants too)…my bad[/quote]

    I heard “solid black” on the local Houston station (1560). No authority on unis to be sure, that’s why I was asking if it may be SOLID black vs. black tops.

  • Brian | September 22, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    I’m not going to touch on the political ramifications for this article, but I would like to bring up one point in this article.

    “but anyone wearing an NOB replica should be barred from such shenanigans, no?”

    Being a die-hard NYY fan, I have a bone to pick with this statement. I’m a uniform lover, and I adore the Yankee uniform just the way it is. However, I own about 6 or 7 replica Yankee jerseys with NOB’s, and I wear them often. Simply because I don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on authentic jerseys anytime I want a jersey, so I’ll go for the NOB replicas, and I don’t find any problem with that.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    Whether we love to hate the Yankees, or what the team and organization symbolize, It is my strongly held belief that all of the blame should rest firmly upon the shoulders of one person within the adminsistrative arm of their entity. Someone who has done nothing but jeopardize the reputation of a once-proud symbol of everything “right in our civilization”.

    His constant stream of poor decisions within the Yankees front office made him a laughingstock not only thorghout baseball but the world of pop culture and entertainment as well!

    Your insticts are correct. This man is none other than:

    http://upload.wikime...

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”290952″]Being a die-hard NYY fan, I have a bone to pick with this statement. I’m a uniform lover, and I adore the Yankee uniform just the way it is. However, I own about 6 or 7 replica Yankee jerseys with NOB’s, and I wear them often. Simply because I don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on authentic jerseys anytime I want a jersey, so I’ll go for the NOB replicas, and I don’t find any problem with that.[/quote]

    Have you ever tried to cut though the stitching and see if you could remove the name off the back……? if you could do that, you would basically have a Yankee authentic for the price of a replica.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”290943″]
    So, thank you![/quote]

    Love the images, Powers. Well done, sir!

  • RS Rogers | September 22, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”290814″]What really bothers me is the number of you complaining about “God Bless America.”[/quote]

    I’ll try to explain. First off, and this is important, I’m deeply conservative (read “traditionalist”) when it comes to patriotism. I love America, I know exactly why I love America, and I am never shy about expressing or explaining my love of country. What’s more, I am a firm believer in old-fashioned patriotic display. Give me cloth bunting and a brass band playing Soussa marches and I’m a happy guy. I know the U.S. Flag Code and argue the point with neighbors who violate it. I know the words to nearly every patriotic song, usually all the verses, and I’m the kind of guy who by sheer force of example can cause entire ballpark sections to actually sing the national anthem.

    And I hate “God Bless America.”

    Why? Because I love patriotic songs, and “God Bless America” is neither patriotic nor a song. Think of any other patriotic song ever written, from “Hail Columbia” to “The Battle Cry of Freedom” to Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA.” What do they all have in common? They all say at least something about why America is a commendable example worthy of a patriot’s devotion. “God Bless America” contains not one word of actual praise for America. Not one word!

    And it’s not a song; it’s a prayer. Worse, it’s a terrible prayer. I try not to pretend to know the mind of God, but I have to believe that every time He hears someone sing “God Bless America,” He says to Himself, “The mountains, prairies, and foamy oceans are My blessings to your country, you ungrateful little primate.” It’s the kind of whiny, pleading, missing-the-point prayer that when children say it in church, any pastor or priest or rabbi worth his salt will take the child aside and offer a gentle lesson about what prayer is really all about.

    Is the Seventh Inning Stretch the appropriate time for a commercial business to force people to sing a second patriotic song? Maybe, maybe not. But that question does not arise in this case, because “God Bless America” is not a patriotic song.

  • jesse | September 22, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”290952″]I’m not going to touch on the political ramifications for this article, but I would like to bring up one point in this article.

    “but anyone wearing an NOB replica should be barred from such shenanigans, no?”

    Being a die-hard NYY fan, I have a bone to pick with this statement. I’m a uniform lover, and I adore the Yankee uniform just the way it is. However, I own about 6 or 7 replica Yankee jerseys with NOB’s, and I wear them often. Simply because I don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on authentic jerseys anytime I want a jersey, so I’ll go for the NOB replicas, and I don’t find any problem with that.[/quote]

    Two things;

    1. Ironically, I can listen to people disagree about politics all day and keep an open mind, but when it comes to a Yankee jersey with a name on the back there is only one correct answer. It’s no.

    2. FWIW, don’t the Yankees get some credit for keeping the name of the new stadium as Yankee Stadium? I mean, they are walking away from what, a 100 million dollars in naming rights fees? Tradition must still count for something in the Yankees front office.

  • Bryan Redemske | September 22, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”290954″][quote comment=”290952″]Being a die-hard NYY fan, I have a bone to pick with this statement. I’m a uniform lover, and I adore the Yankee uniform just the way it is. However, I own about 6 or 7 replica Yankee jerseys with NOB’s, and I wear them often. Simply because I don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on authentic jerseys anytime I want a jersey, so I’ll go for the NOB replicas, and I don’t find any problem with that.[/quote]

    Have you ever tried to cut though the stitching and see if you could remove the name off the back……? if you could do that, you would basically have a Yankee authentic for the price of a replica.[/quote]

    Or just save up for the real thing. Authentic Yankees jerseys are the cheapest in baseball, especially the home ones. Just a logo and one or two numbers, that’s it. Two of your replicas equal one authentic.

  • BaseballinDC | September 22, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    I love this blog, but I’d really be a lot happier not to have to be exposed to anti-American rhetoric. Perhaps you’re too young to recall that during the evil 1950s, most of the world faced a real threat from a really evil country, and the presence of a strong, watchful US was what reassured them that Soviet tanks wouldn’t be rolling over them.

    Anyway, I work in politics, and like sports because I can get away from it. If you want to write about politics, please start a new blog where you can explain all the things that are wrong with our country, and which country in the history of mankind you’d rather live in.

    Thanks.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”290952″]I’m not going to touch on the political ramifications for this article, but I would like to bring up one point in this article.

    “but anyone wearing an NOB replica should be barred from such shenanigans, no?”

    Being a die-hard NYY fan, I have a bone to pick with this statement. I’m a uniform lover, and I adore the Yankee uniform just the way it is. However, I own about 6 or 7 replica Yankee jerseys with NOB’s, and I wear them often. Simply because I don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on authentic jerseys anytime I want a jersey, so I’ll go for the NOB replicas, and I don’t find any problem with that.[/quote]

    or, you could get one of these…then all 6 or 7 of your jersies will be perfect

  • RS Rogers | September 22, 2008 at 3:45 pm |

    Regarding the NOB problem with Yankees replicas, a seam ripper costs about a buck fifty at your local fabric store, and twenty minutes of careful labor with the seam ripper will remove the unsightly NOB completely.

    There is, in short, no excuse for wearing a Yankees jersey with “JETER” on the back.

  • Bryan | September 22, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    Wow, Paul. Shocking to hear your a Mets fan.

    Manchester City called, they want their inferiority complex back….

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    oops,

    Whether we love or hate the Yankees, or what the team and organization symbolize, It is my strongly held belief that all of the blame should rest firmly upon the shoulders of one person within the administrative arm of their entity. Someone who has done nothing but jeopardize the reputation of a once-proud symbol of everything “right in our civilization”.

    His constant stream of poor decisions within the Yankees front office made him a laughingstock not only throughout baseball but the world of pop culture and entertainment as well!
    Your instincts are correct. This man is none other than:

    http://upload.wikime...

  • Bryan | September 22, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    YOU’RE in previous post …dammit

  • Scott | September 22, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

    Um, you can link to page 2 from UW. I think that UW and Nike and ESPN should be free to get their brand name out however they wish. If not for espn i would have never learned about UW. My point is that espn is equally responsible for the perceived ills of the world as are other mega corporations such as nike or the yankees. Bash all or none i say.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”290957″]2. FWIW, don’t the Yankees get some credit for keeping the name of the new stadium as Yankee Stadium? I mean, they are walking away from what, a 100 million dollars in naming rights fees? Tradition must still count for something in the Yankees front office.[/quote]

    True. But I think also the fact that the Steinbrenner family owns a ballclub that is the highest valued ballclub in pro sports (or could be second, behind the Cowboys), own a regional sports network that is probably as highly valued as the ballclub itself, raising prices in some cases over 100% for some of its more exclusive seats, and opening up a whole bunch of luxury boxes for rich corporate customers, plus the fact that the potential public relations fallout if the stadium were to be named anything other than Yankee Stadium played a big part in it as well. They’re not going to be suffering. When your ballclub and ancillary businesses are worth in excess of $1 billion, $100 million is not really that much.

    I remeber the “outcry” when the new Mets stadium was revealed to be called CitiField. There was maybe grumbling for about a half-hour before everyone moved on. I don’t think the stadium could be called anything but Yankee Stadium.

  • Andy11 | September 22, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    I like the part about “America’s willfully oblivious descent down the crapper.”

    When did this begin exactly? I’m guessing it was when we brutally stole this land from the natives.
    Either that or when George Bush stole the election from Al Gore?

    Regardless of when it began, we can be sure that when the Savior is elected president in November, he will begin solving our problems.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”290965″]Um, you can link to page 2 from UW.[/quote]

    I realize that. My point was that Paul links to Page 2 from here with the usual “New article is up right here” or something along those lines. What he doesn’t do is basically be a corporate shill for ESPN, which I think would be far more offensive than merely bashing say Nike and getting an occasional paycheck from ESPN.

    And unless ESPN had plants in third world countries where they were paying their workers, in some cases children, pennies on the dollar for every sneaker put out, I don’t think ESPN is anywhere close to being “equally responsible’ for some of the perceived ills suffered in this world as some other corporations that shall remain nameless.

  • Duckstyle | September 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”290959″]I love this blog, but I’d really be a lot happier not to have to be exposed to anti-American rhetoric. Perhaps you’re too young to recall that during the evil 1950s, most of the world faced a real threat from a really evil country, and the presence of a strong, watchful US was what reassured them that Soviet tanks wouldn’t be rolling over them.

    Anyway, I work in politics, and like sports because I can get away from it. If you want to write about politics, please start a new blog where you can explain all the things that are wrong with our country, and which country in the history of mankind you’d rather live in.

    Thanks.[/quote]

    Another one. Can people stop pretending to be the personification of Uncle Sam. Expressing ones views to the public is as American as it gets. The fact that you sir “work in politics” and really belive what you’re saying, simply put, scares the hell out of me.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    And I think the day that ESPN gets into apparel (which wouldn’t surprise me), if a team signs on to be outfitted by ESPN and you see an ESPN logo on the jerseys, or some weird ESPN template like Nike has, Paul will be all over it like white on rice.

  • dwight | September 22, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”290969″][quote comment=”290959″]I love this blog, but I’d really be a lot happier not to have to be exposed to anti-American rhetoric. Perhaps you’re too young to recall that during the evil 1950s, most of the world faced a real threat from a really evil country, and the presence of a strong, watchful US was what reassured them that Soviet tanks wouldn’t be rolling over them.

    Anyway, I work in politics, and like sports because I can get away from it. If you want to write about politics, please start a new blog where you can explain all the things that are wrong with our country, and which country in the history of mankind you’d rather live in.

    Thanks.[/quote]

    Another one. Can people stop pretending to be the personification of Uncle Sam. Expressing ones views to the public is as American as it gets. The fact that you sir “work in politics” and really belive what you’re saying, simply put, scares the hell out of me.[/quote]

    As Reckless Kelly state on their new album:

    “God bless America but God damn Uncle Sam”

  • JTH | September 22, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    RE: NOB Yankees replica jerseys

    Why not just buy a number-free jersey? You can take it to a custom team apparel shop and have a number sewn on after the fact if you really want.

  • Luke | September 22, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    Can’t we all just get along? I like most other people hate the Yankees. Having said that I respect the Yankees (to an extent) for their virtual monopoly over the baseball world. Unfortunately they, along with the Mets, Red Sox, and a few other teams have taken baseball and ruined it for fans in most other cities. So while everyone bickers about their naming rights, stadium sendoffs, and vehicles with poor gas mileage; I’m left wondering if ever in my life I will see a winning baseball season.

    I realize baseball is the national pasttime and all, but lets not forget… It’s just a game.

  • BaseballinDC | September 22, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    Duckstyle,

    You don’t know what you don’t know.

    My point it that there are appropriate places to express political views. I would prefer not to read them in blogs about sports, that’s all.

    Of course, it’s Paul’s blog and he can do what he wants. No one is censoring him. Dick Cheney didn’t have the NSA shut down the ISP.

    Paul’s opened his blog up for comments, which means he believes in free speech enough (bless him) to hear criticism, whether it has to do with the color of his stirrups or his views on NOB. Today, he offered a political opinion.

    You seem offended anyone would take him up on it.

    In short, you seem comfortable with free speech for some, but not for all. If you want to attack America (calling it a “bully” for instance) without considering the full historical record, you’re really calling for a one sided debate.

    People who like one sided debates are called fascists.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”290973″]Can’t we all just get along? I like most other people hate the Yankees. Having said that I respect the Yankees (to an extent) for their virtual monopoly over the baseball world. Unfortunately they, along with the Mets, Red Sox, and a few other teams have taken baseball and ruined it for fans in most other cities. So while everyone bickers about their naming rights, stadium sendoffs, and vehicles with poor gas mileage; I’m left wondering if ever in my life I will see a winning baseball season.

    I realize baseball is the national pasttime and all, but lets not forget… It’s just a game.[/quote]

    how have the mets ruined baseball for teams in other cities?

    all those world series they’ve “bought”? all those top free agents they’ve stolen? all that revenue sharing they give to the royals and marlins?

  • jesse | September 22, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”290966″][quote comment=”290957″]2. FWIW, don’t the Yankees get some credit for keeping the name of the new stadium as Yankee Stadium? I mean, they are walking away from what, a 100 million dollars in naming rights fees? Tradition must still count for something in the Yankees front office.[/quote]

    True. But I think also the fact that the Steinbrenner family owns a ballclub that is the highest valued ballclub in pro sports (or could be second, behind the Cowboys), own a regional sports network that is probably as highly valued as the ballclub itself, raising prices in some cases over 100% for some of its more exclusive seats, and opening up a whole bunch of luxury boxes for rich corporate customers, plus the fact that the potential public relations fallout if the stadium were to be named anything other than Yankee Stadium played a big part in it as well. They’re not going to be suffering. When your ballclub and ancillary businesses are worth in excess of $1 billion, $100 million is not really that much.

    I remeber the “outcry” when the new Mets stadium was revealed to be called CitiField. There was maybe grumbling for about a half-hour before everyone moved on. I don’t think the stadium could be called anything but Yankee Stadium.[/quote]

    100 million dollars is a lot of money, no matter how much you already have. No corporation turns down that kind of cash.

    Maybe a guy does, and that seems like what happened here. Steinbrenner, through his kids, has refused to sell off the naming rights. Like him or not, you have to admit he has been very consistent in his efforts at maintaining the traditions associated with the Yankees. Yankee Stadium was way out of date, it needed to be replaced, and modernized to stay ahead of the corporate joneses. Hey that’s just life in America. For whatever reason, the Yankees are the last line of defense against corporate naming rights and logo creep.

    Well see what Boston does in three years when the Yankees have vastly increased their profits because of the exact types of amenities that Fenway doesn’t have. Mark my words, Fenway and Wrigley both just got a death sentence, and we’ll see what kind of a job the Cubs and the Red Sox do of maintaining their own traditions.

  • Duckstyle | September 22, 2008 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”290974″]Duckstyle,

    You don’t know what you don’t know.

    My point it that there are appropriate places to express political views. I would prefer not to read them in blogs about sports, that’s all.

    Of course, it’s Paul’s blog and he can do what he wants. No one is censoring him. Dick Cheney didn’t have the NSA shut down the ISP.

    Paul’s opened his blog up for comments, which means he believes in free speech enough (bless him) to hear criticism, whether it has to do with the color of his stirrups or his views on NOB. Today, he offered a political opinion.

    You seem offended anyone would take him up on it.

    In short, you seem comfortable with free speech for some, but not for all. If you want to attack America (calling it a “bully” for instance) without considering the full historical record, you’re really calling for a one sided debate.

    People who like one sided debates are called fascists.[/quote]

    Not what I said at all, way to take me out of context completly. You attacked Paul for expressing his beliefs on his own blog, correct? Then after I point that out you, you respond by saying you love free speech for all including Paul on his own blog. But not before saying he shouldn’t, on his own blog. Make sense of that for me, eh? I never once said anything regarding people that disagreed with his views should speak, I said people that said he shouldn’t speak are truly the un-American ones. So do yourself a favor and get off your high-horse for two seconds and stop assuming you have any idea of how much, or what I know. Thanks for playing.

  • Adam Vaggalis | September 22, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    Seriously has anyone seen yankee tees like what Artie Lange is wearing in this clip?
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • =bg= | September 22, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”290772″][quote comment=”290770″][quote]Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens[/quote]

    teebz?

    your thoughts…[/quote]

    Oh boy… if I were to start on this… oh boy.[/quote]

    Nice language today. Classy.

  • Ben | September 22, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    Heres a nice NOB.
    Initial, period, and hyphen
    Derrell Johnson-Koulianos from Iowa
    http://good-times.we...

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”290975″][quote comment=”290973″]Can’t we all just get along? I like most other people hate the Yankees. Having said that I respect the Yankees (to an extent) for their virtual monopoly over the baseball world. Unfortunately they, along with the Mets, Red Sox, and a few other teams have taken baseball and ruined it for fans in most other cities. So while everyone bickers about their naming rights, stadium sendoffs, and vehicles with poor gas mileage; I’m left wondering if ever in my life I will see a winning baseball season.

    I realize baseball is the national pasttime and all, but lets not forget… It’s just a game.[/quote]

    how have the mets ruined baseball for teams in other cities?

    all those world series they’ve “bought”? all those top free agents they’ve stolen? all that revenue sharing they give to the royals and marlins?[/quote]

    And considering recent winners of the World Series (aside from the Red Sox) have been lower payroll teams like the Marlins, D-Backs, and Cardinals, I don’t get it.

    I understand the disdain toward big market teams. They seemingly have all the money and can pick whoever they want off the free-agent market. But they share their revenue. Now, if the owner of a small-market club chooses not to use that revenue towards improving the quality of his players and the product on the field, well, whose fault is that?

    Ballclub owners are all billionaires. Some choose to spend millions upon millions of dollars on their ballclub while other owners don’t.

    And how exactly has the virtual monopoly over the baseball world been working out for the Yankees, Mets and Red Sox the last 7-8 years or so…? Two world titles for Boston and, uhm, that’s it.

    Not to say the system is prefect, but really, this whole discussion about large and small market teams really started when the Yankees won 4 Series in 5 years. Before that, when the Yankees were a perennially bad team, there was nary a peep. In fact, I remember people lamenting that one of MLB’s flagship franchises was being so badly mismanaged.

  • Tony B | September 22, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”290855″]One of the most beautiful things is hearing some old-timer reminisce about old-time baseball. My father-in-law lived through a lot of the Yankees championships and to have him regale us with tales about Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford, etc. is really awesome. Never once, have I heard him, or any other old-timer, mention anything about the Yankees having 26 titles, about the Yankees being the greatest sports franchise in history, blah blah blah blah. Those are lines spouted by the current generation of “fans”, many of whom embraced the team once it started winning again in the late 90’s and could care less about the greats of the past, save for those 26 titles and the bragging rights they feel that come with them.

    My personal favorite is when you find a so-called “lifelong Yankee fan” who doesn’t know the team started out as a transplanted Baltimore franchise and was christened as the Highlanders, doesn’t know who Thurman Munson was, or just knows Yogi Berra as “that old guy who does Aflac commercials”. And yet these are the same people who walk around telling you that your team sucks because it doesn’t have as many titles as the Yankees. Yeah, we get it. The Yankees have a long history of excellence. They have 26 titles, about 20 or so of which you were never around for.

    It never fails to amaze me how someone will root for another team, and yet here comes the Yankee “fan” with “yeah, but they’ll never be as good as the Yankees because they don’t have 26 titles.” Along those lines, I never understand why Yankee “fans” are threatened by “that team in Flushing” and never spare any opportunity to point out that, wow, the Mets don’t have 26 titles like the Yankees. I guess the fact that the Yankees started playing in 1903 and the Mets didn’t debut until 59 years later couldn’t possibly play some role in the Yankees having a huge lead in the championships department. Quite honestly, that says more about the level of insecurity of the Yankee “fan” than it does about Mets fans, who are always goofed on as having “little brother syndrome”. It somehow becomes a crime to root for your team. God forbid you even attempt to make totally valid points like “the Mets won the Subway Series this year 4 games to 2”, because the Yankee “fan” responds with an almost Pavlovian “THE YANKEES HAVE 26 TITLES!!!!!”

    If that’s what being a Yankee “fan” is all about, then you can keep it. If it makes you feel better about yourself and your place in life to have a t-shirt that says “We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves”, knock yourself out. Sadly, being a Yankee “fan” has become little more than an expression of elitism and the “in-thing” to do than it is about having pride in your team. I’m perfectly content with my team’s 2 championships and good times, memories and longtime friends I have experienced and made over the years.

    Nice piece today Paul. Good for you that you got to express what it was that you felt on your own blog. Sometimes the truth hurts.[/quote]

    I agree wholeheartedly with everything in your post. Seriously.

  • BaseballinDC | September 22, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    Duckstyle

    [quote]
    You attacked Paul for expressing his beliefs on his own blog, correct?

    [/quote]

    No – I didn’t attack anyone that I can see. As a reader, I provided feedback that I prefer that my sports and politics remain separate. Paul can take that into account or he can disregard it.

    [quote]

    Then after I point that out you, you respond by saying you love free speech for all including Paul on his own blog. But not before saying he shouldn’t, on his own blog. Make sense of that for me, eh?

    [/quote]

    Again, I think Paul can say anything he wants. As a reader, I was sharing my negative reaction, however, to the inclusion of those thoughts in this particular place (but never his RIGHT to do so).

    [quote]

    people that said he shouldn’t speak are truly the un-American ones

    [/quote]

    I’m glad to know we have an arbiter of “un-American” present.

    [quote]

    So do yourself a favor and get off your high-horse for two seconds and stop assuming you have any idea of how much, or what I know. Thanks for playing.[/quote]

    I think we pretty much know at this point.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”290976″]Yankee Stadium was way out of date, it needed to be replaced, and modernized to stay ahead of the corporate joneses.[/quote]

    That’s where I disagree. The Yankees are the biggest draw in all of baseball. They drew over 4 million paying customers. They draw the most money of any major league team. They’re not just doing perfectly OK in their current digs; they’re extremely profitable. Jeez, they’re a cash cow. Why did it need to be replaced?

    All those modern corporate joneses would give an arm and a leg to make what the Yankees make at old, run down Yankee Stadium.

    I’ve heard a few arguments as to why the Stadium needed to be replaced. I’ve heard a few as to why the Stadium didn’t need to be replaced. But if your rationale is “to keep up with everybody else”, that sounds like something the Steinbrenners would say.

  • Ron V | September 22, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”290969″][quote comment=”290959″]I love this blog, but I’d really be a lot happier not to have to be exposed to anti-American rhetoric. Perhaps you’re too young to recall that during the evil 1950s, most of the world faced a real threat from a really evil country, and the presence of a strong, watchful US was what reassured them that Soviet tanks wouldn’t be rolling over them.

    Anyway, I work in politics, and like sports because I can get away from it. If you want to write about politics, please start a new blog where you can explain all the things that are wrong with our country, and which country in the history of mankind you’d rather live in.

    Thanks.[/quote]

    Another one. Can people stop pretending to be the personification of Uncle Sam. Expressing ones views to the public is as American as it gets. The fact that you sir “work in politics” and really belive what you’re saying, simply put, scares the hell out of me.[/quote]

    Don’t be scared little one. It will be alright.
    Why is it that Paul and his followers all sound like pansies? Big corporations and big SUVs and NIKE logos are so frightening to you guys. This is hilarious! By far the most entertaining day in the comments section ever! Paul, please post your take on global warming tomorrow. Please.

  • joe | September 22, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”290950″]Know what touched me most last night?

    Yogi.

    Standing there at home plate, all alone. Smaller than in his playing days. Getting more than a little frail, I imagine. A little old man in a baggy suit that is most famous baseball uniform ever.

    And I thought of a line I once heard about playing the games of summer…for as long as the summer lasts.

    More a Yankee moment, that. A baseball moment.

    We can say all we want about politics or corporate America or sports merchandising, but Yogi, from a time long before players were millionaires, standing there in his cream-colored Yankee pins when his teammates such as DiMaggio, Mantle, Maris, Martin, Howard, Rizzuto and others couldn’t be, was great.

    No, was better than great. Was perfect.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    that Yogi shot was probably the best image I have seen of the nights action. Take that into photoshop and apply a paint filter and its a Rockwell painting.

  • Paul | September 22, 2008 at 4:53 pm |

    Just to try and bring back some uni-talk:

    There were comments on Redskins wearing all white, and how some like and some dislike. Being a ‘skins fan myself, I enjoy the look. I actually think we shouldn’t have burgundy pants at all. There should be white pants (only worn with white tops) and gold pants (can be worn with both white and burgundy tops). That way, there’s a bit of a balance between classic (burgundy/gold, white/gold) and contemporary (white on white).

    Just a thought.

  • joe | September 22, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”290959″]I love this blog, but I’d really be a lot happier not to have to be exposed to anti-American rhetoric. Perhaps you’re too young to recall that during the evil 1950s, most of the world faced a real threat from a really evil country, and the presence of a strong, watchful US was what reassured them that Soviet tanks wouldn’t be rolling over them.

    Anyway, I work in politics, and like sports because I can get away from it. If you want to write about politics, please start a new blog where you can explain all the things that are wrong with our country, and which country in the history of mankind you’d rather live in.

    Thanks.[/quote]
    that a a giant ocean that kept their non- amphibious tanks from our shores.

  • Paul | September 22, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    oh and I also agree with the earlier posters about the bills jerseys.
    they should ditch the current look and stick with the look they wore yesterday.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”290857″][quote]Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.[/quote]

    except the mets will be playing baseball in shea in october[/quote]
    yeah sure they will, mets suck. i see another collapse coming.

  • ScottS | September 22, 2008 at 4:58 pm |

    Might as well comment, what the heck.

    Most of what I was going to say was encapulized by Mr. Met (158) and Frank in G’ville (176), both of which I’m glad I read. Extra thoughts for your digestion, some of which are rehashes of wisdom found above:

    There are the Frank in G’villes, and there are the mindless Yankee-fan goombahs (which Frank himself describes) that created a stereotype. There are HOF players who have worn the uniform, and there is The Stein. I’ve never read anything here that indicates anything other than respect for the one, and have always felt that “criticism” such as today is aimed squarely at the other. The main issue it appears people have here is an inability to separate the one, from the other.

    Not to speak for Paul, but my impression is that the Goombahs and the Stein are metaphors for the mindless and/or corporate ninniness that he calls out in today’s post. Much like “SUV-driving suburban redneck” is a stand-in for that element of American society which fails to understand why an Islamic culture with a couple thousand years of history doesn’t take kindly to what they consider imperialism.

    I don’t THINK I just attacked America. Did I? Is it OK to suggest that some folks around the world with different opinions might have a point once in awhile? It’s even possible that both sides have valid points that are worthy of adult discourse…

    Anyway, just because you may drive an SUV, live in the suburbs, and/or be a redneck does not mean you’re being called out individually, so maybe you could get over yourselves and that very sense of impregnable, illogical superiority that the Goombahs and the Stein represent. Again, please see posts 158 and 176 for examples of people who “Get It”. Put another way, some of my best friends are Yankee fans.

    If you REALLY need a map, the Goombahs and their “26 RINGZ” are EXACTLY the same type of mentality as those who would hood up and go lynchin’ in 1957. This does *not* equate to saying “all Yankee fans are racist”, no matter how hard you squint.

    Finally, if you “came here for the uni-talk”, well, you’re getting it. The sidebar commentary you get as a garnish. If you’d swear off Ruth’s Chris because they put some parsley on your plate, by all means, un-bookmark the site, and enjoy the Sizzler.

  • ScottS | September 22, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    Mea culpa – Frank’s post was #177, not 176.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”290987″]Just to try and bring back some uni-talk:

    There were comments on Redskins wearing all white, and how some like and some dislike. Being a ‘skins fan myself, I enjoy the look. I actually think we shouldn’t have burgundy pants at all. There should be white pants (only worn with white tops) and gold pants (can be worn with both white and burgundy tops). That way, there’s a bit of a balance between classic (burgundy/gold, white/gold) and contemporary (white on white).

    Just a thought.[/quote]

    And if you are going to have the burgundy pants, they should be the matte-style instead of the shiny ones they currently have. It just doesn’t look right for some reason (to me anyway).

  • noelamezquita | September 22, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    everything is political….you cant avoid it

  • BaseballinDC | September 22, 2008 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”290994″]everything is political….you cant avoid it[/quote]

    With due regard, nonsense.

  • noelamezquita | September 22, 2008 at 5:08 pm |

    i hear vancouver is beautiful

  • Daniel | September 22, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    what happened to free speech? its pauls site, he can say what he wants. im reading it, i can think of it as i want. Personally, i disagree with quite a bit of it but dont deride him for thinking it. you can also offer a counter point if you disagree like i do, but dont tell him to shut down a site thats his and free. i voted for bush, own several guns, oppose this federal bailout because it is government regulation for an economy nowhere near collapse (im an economist) im anti universal healthcare and pro iraq war. i respect pauls opinion but disagree

    i love america, support branding on something you own, not on something you dont (uniforms) i can express my views and so can paul. im a capitalist and maybe some arent, ill survive

    people need to get over themselves

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”290990″][quote comment=”290857″][quote]Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.[/quote]

    except the mets will be playing baseball in shea in october[/quote]
    yeah sure they will, mets suck. i see another collapse coming.[/quote]

    that’s a good one derek…

    keep teh funni coming

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”290997″]people need to get over themselves[/quote]

    I think that’s the consensus after today.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”290999″][quote comment=”290997″]people need to get over themselves[/quote]

    I think that’s the consensus after today.[/quote]

    or every day

  • Paul | September 22, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”290993″][quote comment=”290987″]Just to try and bring back some uni-talk:

    There were comments on Redskins wearing all white, and how some like and some dislike. Being a ‘skins fan myself, I enjoy the look. I actually think we shouldn’t have burgundy pants at all. There should be white pants (only worn with white tops) and gold pants (can be worn with both white and burgundy tops). That way, there’s a bit of a balance between classic (burgundy/gold, white/gold) and contemporary (white on white).

    Just a thought.[/quote]

    And if you are going to have the burgundy pants, they should be the matte-style instead of the shiny ones they currently have. It just doesn’t look right for some reason (to me anyway).[/quote]

    yes you are right, the shiny ones are just.. well they’re shiny.
    I remember Paul pointing us in the direction of an interview where someone stated the Redskins will being wearing white on white for the first 4 homers and then burgundy on white for the final 4 homers. What about the Dallas game? We should always make them wear Blue..

  • jesse | September 22, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”290984″][quote comment=”290976″]Yankee Stadium was way out of date, it needed to be replaced, and modernized to stay ahead of the corporate joneses.[/quote]

    That’s where I disagree. The Yankees are the biggest draw in all of baseball. They drew over 4 million paying customers. They draw the most money of any major league team. They’re not just doing perfectly OK in their current digs; they’re extremely profitable. Jeez, they’re a cash cow. Why did it need to be replaced?

    All those modern corporate joneses would give an arm and a leg to make what the Yankees make at old, run down Yankee Stadium.

    I’ve heard a few arguments as to why the Stadium needed to be replaced. I’ve heard a few as to why the Stadium didn’t need to be replaced. But if your rationale is “to keep up with everybody else”, that sounds like something the Steinbrenners would say.[/quote]

    They drew over 4 million paying customers… they’re extremely profitable…why did it need to be replaced? Easy, because with a newer, more modern stadium, they can be more profitable.

    All those modern corporate joneses would give an arm and a leg to make what the Yankees make at old, run down Yankee Stadium. No doubt, but they would also build a newer, more modern stadium, so they could be more profitable.

    It’s not “to keep up with everybody else”, it’s to stay ahead of everybody else. The Yankees, while still highly profitable, are losing market share to teams like the Red Sox. The Yankees new stadium will eventually force the Red Sox to make a huge capital investment in their own team in order that they’ll have the same (or at least similar) cash available as the Yankees.

    They’re not just doing perfectly OK in their current digs…Why did it need to be replaced? Take ghosts and 250 million dollar payrolls out of the mix and I wouldn’t pay ten dollars to watch a game at that Yankee Stadium. People don’t pay to see history, they pay to see a baseball team, or at least to be at a good place to watch a game. In a vacuum, Yankee Stadium is a shitty place to watch a game, PNC Park is easily 50 times better.

    Even if you’re the Yankees it’s foolish to think you are going be in first place every season. Keep in mind, they weren’t drawing 4 million fans a year in the 1980’s when they were not competitive.

    Replacing that place and moving on is the right call, from a financial prospective.

  • Teebz | September 22, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”290978″]Seriously has anyone seen yankee tees like what Artie Lange is wearing in this clip?
    http://www.youtube.c...

    I believe, judging by the size of Artie, that is the new Yankees Personalized Parachute.

    My god, he’s gotten a tad rotund. :o|

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”290998″][quote comment=”290990″][quote comment=”290857″][quote]Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.[/quote]

    except the mets will be playing baseball in shea in october[/quote]
    yeah sure they will, mets suck. i see another collapse coming.[/quote]

    that’s a good one derek…

    keep teh funni coming[/quote]
    plan on it

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”291004″][quote comment=”290998″][quote comment=”290990″][quote comment=”290857″][quote]Can’t wait to see what you have to write about the Mets and Shea Stadium, Paul, when they finish their season next week.[/quote]

    except the mets will be playing baseball in shea in october[/quote]
    yeah sure they will, mets suck. i see another collapse coming.[/quote]

    that’s a good one derek…

    keep teh funni coming[/quote]
    plan on it[/quote]
    oh wait no i dont. i have a life that doesnt revolve around commenting on a site all day.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”291003″][quote comment=”290978″]Seriously has anyone seen yankee tees like what Artie Lange is wearing in this clip?
    http://www.youtube.c...

    I believe, judging by the size of Artie, that is the new Yankees Personalized Parachute.

    My god, he’s gotten a tad rotund. :o|[/quote]

    a real eye opener, that

  • chance | September 22, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”290976″]
    Well see what Boston does in three years when the Yankees have vastly increased their profits because of the exact types of amenities that Fenway doesn’t have. Mark my words, Fenway and Wrigley both just got a death sentence, and we’ll see what kind of a job the Cubs and the Red Sox do of maintaining their own traditions.[/quote]

    The Cubs are Red Sox are trapped by the weight of their stadium tradition.

    Both teams have proposed replacing their stadiums in recent years, and both will continue to do so whenever they think they can get away with it.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”291005″]i have a life that doesnt revolve around commenting on a site all day.[/quote]

    fair enough

    it apparently doesn’t revolve around witty repartee either

  • Al | September 22, 2008 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”290978″]Seriously has anyone seen yankee tees like what Artie Lange is wearing in this clip?
    http://www.youtube.c...
    I have only seen those shirts at one of the stores (Stan’s or Baseball World?) outside of Yankee Stadium.

    These are not the shirts Matt referred to in Post #56 — they (example — http://shop.mlb.com/...) can be found just about anywhere.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    Jesse those were all valid points. I’m just glad you didn’t bust out “because a new stadium is going to create new jobs and help the economy”.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=\”291007\”][quote comment=\”290976\”]
    Well see what Boston does in three years when the Yankees have vastly increased their profits because of the exact types of amenities that Fenway doesn’t have. Mark my words, Fenway and Wrigley both just got a death sentence, and we’ll see what kind of a job the Cubs and the Red Sox do of maintaining their own traditions.[/quote]

    The Cubs are Red Sox are trapped by the weight of their stadium tradition.

    Both teams have proposed replacing their stadiums in recent years, and both will continue to do so whenever they think they can get away with it.[/quote]
    What is so special about wrigley field and fenway? they are just really old pieces of crap

  • BaseballinDC | September 22, 2008 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”291011″]
    What is so special about wrigley field and fenway? they are just really old pieces of crap[/quote]

    Wow…now THAT’s incendiary.

  • Justin in AR | September 22, 2008 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”291011″][quote comment=\”291007\”][quote comment=\”290976\”]
    Well see what Boston does in three years when the Yankees have vastly increased their profits because of the exact types of amenities that Fenway doesn’t have. Mark my words, Fenway and Wrigley both just got a death sentence, and we’ll see what kind of a job the Cubs and the Red Sox do of maintaining their own traditions.[/quote]

    The Cubs are Red Sox are trapped by the weight of their stadium tradition.

    Both teams have proposed replacing their stadiums in recent years, and both will continue to do so whenever they think they can get away with it.[/quote]
    What is so special about wrigley field and fenway? they are just really old pieces of crap[/quote]

    I thought you had better things to do.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”291012″][quote comment=”291011″]
    What is so special about wrigley field and fenway? they are just really old pieces of crap[/quote]

    Wow…now THAT’s incendiary.[/quote]
    well its just how i feel

  • Walaitis | September 22, 2008 at 5:41 pm |

    So … uh … about uniforms …

  • Steve Sarran | September 22, 2008 at 5:41 pm |

    Did anyone notice that in the article about product branding lists the band “New Kids on the BLOG” Well I thought it was quite funny.
    Also I searched the word “blog” on this page to make sure noone else mentioned this That word appears like 300 times today in these comments. Unfreaking believable!

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”291015″]So … uh … about uniforms …[/quote]

    not today jim

  • Justin in AR | September 22, 2008 at 5:45 pm |

    Turns out Lee Kiffin is staying on as head coach of the Raiders for the moment. All the more reason to hate owners like Al Davis. Stop playing cat and mouse and get it over with.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”291013″][quote comment=”291011″][quote comment=\”291007\”][quote comment=\”290976\”]
    Well see what Boston does in three years when the Yankees have vastly increased their profits because of the exact types of amenities that Fenway doesn’t have. Mark my words, Fenway and Wrigley both just got a death sentence, and we’ll see what kind of a job the Cubs and the Red Sox do of maintaining their own traditions.[/quote]

    The Cubs are Red Sox are trapped by the weight of their stadium tradition.

    Both teams have proposed replacing their stadiums in recent years, and both will continue to do so whenever they think they can get away with it.[/quote]
    What is so special about wrigley field and fenway? they are just really old pieces of crap[/quote]

    I thought you had better things to do.[/quote]
    i do, im texting

  • Alex | September 22, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”290767″]“But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for every freaking game)”

    Yes, it is so annoying to have to listen to a patriotic song instead of some semi-celebrity stumble through “Take Me Out to the Ball Game”. Us stupid, patriotic Americans, how dare we enjoy something that truly reps people who still give a shit about their country?

    Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens.[/quote]
    If you need a song to make you feel patriotic, you’re insecure. I don’t need that at a game to tell me I love I love this country. And just because I might criticize and not always agree with how things are run, why the hell should I move? Do you pick a new team when you get upset with yours? Didn’t think so. Now please shut up.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”291018″]Turns out Lee Kiffin is staying on as head coach of the Raiders for the moment. All the more reason to hate owners like Al Davis. Stop playing cat and mouse and get it over with.[/quote]

    Oh, Al is going to mess with Kiffin. For you guys that have heard the towel story, you know that Al Davis is a spiteful and mean old bastard. Keep in mind, this is the guy that fired Mike Shanahan, owed him $250,000, was ordered by the NFL to pay Shanahan the $250,000 he owed him, and to this this day has refused to do so. You think Shanahan didn’t relish that 41-14 destruction opening week?

    Who cares that this is going to adversely effect his club the longer the season wears on? Al doesn’t care about cutting off his nose to spite his face.

    Just win, baby.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”291020″][quote comment=”290767″]“But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for every freaking game)”

    Yes, it is so annoying to have to listen to a patriotic song instead of some semi-celebrity stumble through “Take Me Out to the Ball Game”. Us stupid, patriotic Americans, how dare we enjoy something that truly reps people who still give a shit about their country?

    Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens.[/quote]
    If you need a song to make you feel patriotic, you’re insecure. I don’t need that at a game to tell me I love I love this country. And just because I might criticize and not always agree with how things are run, why the hell should I move? Do you pick a new team when you get upset with yours? Didn’t think so. Now please shut up.[/quote]
    why dont you make him, he was stating his opinion

  • Paul | September 22, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”291015″]So … uh … about uniforms …[/quote]

    I tried too.. I guess we’ll have to come back tomorrow. not a complaint, I love this site.

  • Matt | September 22, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    To the person from #216: Looks like Paul would prefer that you call him a “pinhead.” (More Lukas hypocrisy! Well done, Paul. Only names you deem fit can be used. For those keeping score: “ass” = bad; “pinhead” = good.” Here’s the email he and I just exchanged:

    4:56 PM (52 minutes ago)
    Paul LukasLoading…
    4:56 PM (52 minutes ago)
    Paul Lukas
    to me

    show details 4:56 PM (52 minutes ago)

    Reply

    Thanks, but I’ll run my career the way I see fit. Seems to have worked out pretty well for me (except for the occasional pinhead reader like you).

  • Kane | September 22, 2008 at 5:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”290941″]

    Yikes! Is there a Cliff Notes for this comment?[/quote]

    You just provided it, although unwittingly. Thanks for substantiating the point.

  • Tom V. | September 22, 2008 at 6:03 pm |

    I think thats fine if Paul wants to talk about politics instead of uniforms. I will write letters to his advertisers informing them why I will no longer be patronizing them.

  • The Hemogoblin | September 22, 2008 at 6:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”290897″][quote comment=”290894″]Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.[/quote]

    The reason people (myself included) say “So start your own site” or “If you don’t like it, go read something else” so frequently is that it’s a very appropriate response to someone complaining about the content on a free site that was created as an expressive outlet for one person’s sensibility.

    If someone keeps asking me “How much is 2 + 2?”, I’ll keep saying 4, and the answer will still be right, no matter how tiresome or “[un]original” you find it to be.[/quote]

    Not that hard to do. Takes about 30 seconds to open up a blogspot. Takes an hour to open up a forum online. So if you do, in fact, feel the desire to bitch, go do your laundry.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”291026″]I think thats fine if Paul wants to talk about politics instead of uniforms. I will write letters to his advertisers informing them why I will no longer be patronizing them.[/quote]

    No offense, but unless you’re a big corporate client or buy a truckload of merchandise from them, I doubt they’re really going to care.

  • kage | September 22, 2008 at 6:09 pm |

    Ummmm, nothing to complain about. Just found it interesting that the QB in the battle of the G’s has a red G on the left side of his helmet and a black G on the right side. And to be really picky, they aren’t quite matching…the gold team’s G’s are thicker.

  • Johnny O | September 22, 2008 at 6:21 pm |

    I really like what the Packers have done this season with their end zone art. They are going strictly with the “slashes”, no logo or wordmark of any kind. I really like this.

    Last year the Packers did this with the 50th Anniversary of Lambeau Field logo with the slashes, but I thought they would go back to the “Green Bay” and “Packers” in the end zone this year. Has anyone heard why they decided to stick with the slashes?

    I know that Curly Lambeau was a product of Notre Dame University, and this could be a reason for the original slashes…but I’m not sure about this year.

    Here is a picture from last night (best pic. I could find):
    http://sports.yahoo....

    Picture of what Lambeau end zones usually look like:
    http://www.theticket...

    Here are what the end zones looked like last year:
    http://farm3.static....

  • bmarlowe | September 22, 2008 at 6:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”290908″]Partisan, liberal, communist or otherwise, you all seem to have gotten your panties in a bunge over a column that reminds me of the high school kid who reads a little too much into his favorite band’s lyrics.[/quote]
    ___

    Acually, Paul’s column reminds me of a high school kid who writes too much into his own band’s lyrics.

  • bmarlowe | September 22, 2008 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”290967″]I like the part about “America’s willfully oblivious descent down the crapper.”

    When did this begin exactly? I’m guessing it was when we brutally stole this land from the natives.
    Either that or when George Bush stole the election from Al Gore?

    [/quote]
    ______

    It began with the DH

  • stacy | September 22, 2008 at 6:50 pm |

    Just curious, any idea what the record for posts in one day is? Today seems to have really stirred up the masses, cause i very rarely remember seeing it get this far over 300 if ever. And Paul, I like the post today, I dont agree with everything in it, but I like this concept of you expressing YOUR ideas on YOUR own site, crazy. And i really dont like the yankees, sadly i am a Tigers fan and we lost our stadium years ago.

  • patrick | September 22, 2008 at 6:50 pm |

    did anyone notice that it seemed like John Carney was wearing ear plugs during his post game interview? It sure looked like he had orange ear plugs in, although only his right ear was visible. No screen shot

  • Johnny F. | September 22, 2008 at 6:51 pm |

    It seems to me that the conservative readers of uniwatch are a bit quick to the defense. Paul never mentioned anything specific about any party. Is it maybe a guilty conscience because of your beliefs?

    Conservatives doth protest too much?

    Anyway… this is Paul’s site, and his parallels are spot on. It’s the beauty of sports… you don’t have to agree with him. You can come on here, make your points, agree, disagree, and discuss them. Trashing Paul is ridiculous.

    Today’s entry by Paul was awesome.

  • cah | September 22, 2008 at 7:07 pm |

    1. It’s Paul’s blog and he can write what he wants, and as long ass he keeps the comments open, we can respond with what we want.

    2. The reason so few people canceled their cable after the Tina Fey skit was because (a) it was funny and (b) she is smokin friggin hot. I think that’s something we can all agree on.

    3. I hate the Yankees with the same intensity that people who like the Yankees hate commmon sense.

    4. Last night’s pageantry was a moving and stirring farewell to baseball’s grand cathedral and all the tadition it stands for. It will be even more stirring to watch the playoffs next week in eight venues not called Yankee Stadium.

    Did I mention that Tona Fey is smoking hot?

  • The Hemogoblin | September 22, 2008 at 7:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”291027″][quote comment=”290897″][quote comment=”290894″]Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.[/quote]

    The reason people (myself included) say “So start your own site” or “If you don’t like it, go read something else” so frequently is that it’s a very appropriate response to someone complaining about the content on a free site that was created as an expressive outlet for one person’s sensibility.

    If someone keeps asking me “How much is 2 + 2?”, I’ll keep saying 4, and the answer will still be right, no matter how tiresome or “[un]original” you find it to be.[/quote]

    Not that hard to do. Takes about 30 seconds to open up a blogspot. Takes an hour to open up a forum online. So if you do, in fact, feel the desire to bitch, go do your laundry.[/quote]

    (just had to say my spiel)

  • The Hemogoblin | September 22, 2008 at 7:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”291036″]1. It’s Paul’s blog and he can write what he wants, and as long ass he keeps the comments open, we can respond with what we want.

    2. The reason so few people canceled their cable after the Tina Fey skit was because (a) it was funny and (b) she is smokin friggin hot. I think that’s something we can all agree on.

    3. I hate the Yankees with the same intensity that people who like the Yankees hate commmon sense.

    4. Last night’s pageantry was a moving and stirring farewell to baseball’s grand cathedral and all the tadition it stands for. It will be even more stirring to watch the playoffs next week in eight venues not called Yankee Stadium.

    Did I mention that Tona Fey is smoking hot?[/quote]

    Google says: This is Tona Fey

    http://i106.photobuc...

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”291033″]Just curious, any idea what the record for posts in one day is? Today seems to have really stirred up the masses, cause i very rarely remember seeing it get this far over 300 if ever.[/quote]

    not sure what the *record* is, but i believe it occurred the night of the all star game this summer…but that was, while uni related, a lot of “in game banter”

    i told paul in a email earlier this morning that i thought this was his best column since the “piazza piece” and he’d get a LOT of responses

    whether you agree or disagree with him, think he’s trying to stir shit, or just playing devil’s advocate, or whatever, i REALLY enjoyed the comments today

    for the most part they were all well articulated, carefully thought out, and vitriol-free…for the most part

    i know we all love a good book review (or 3), “gone fishin,'” interview with a seamstress or cup stacker, or reader profile when the uni news is thin, but i for one wish paul would give us a few more of these type entries

  • stacy | September 22, 2008 at 7:21 pm |

    [quote comment=\”291038\”][quote comment=\”291036\”]1. It\’s Paul\’s blog and he can write what he wants, and as long ass he keeps the comments open, we can respond with what we want.

    2. The reason so few people canceled their cable after the Tina Fey skit was because (a) it was funny and (b) she is smokin friggin hot. I think that\’s something we can all agree on.

    3. I hate the Yankees with the same intensity that people who like the Yankees hate commmon sense.

    4. Last night\’s pageantry was a moving and stirring farewell to baseball\’s grand cathedral and all the tadition it stands for. It will be even more stirring to watch the playoffs next week in eight venues not called Yankee Stadium.

    Did I mention that Tona Fey is smoking hot?[/quote]

    Google says: This is Tona Fey

    http://i106.photobuc...

    SSSSMOKIN HOT!! More pics pls!! …..on second thought never mind. (btw i was really scared what was gonna pop up on that link)

  • bp | September 22, 2008 at 7:25 pm |

    Paul,
    You are a hypocrite. YOU WORK FOR THE CORPORATE GIANT OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! Do you hesitate to cash those checks from ESPN? The same ESPN who has the \”Coors Light Cold Hard Facts\” and \”Sunday Night Baseball presented by Taco Bell\”. You\’re a fraud. You despise Nike but ESPN is the Nike of sports entertainment. Don\’t get me wrong, we all have to pay the rent but you\’re a joke. Wearing a a Yankee jersey or a t-shirt with a swoosh doesn\’t make you evil just like wearing a \”vintage\” t-shirt doesn\’t make you anti-establishment. Get off your high horse and stick to giving the details of uniforms.

  • lol | September 22, 2008 at 7:25 pm |

    Socialism is needed because the Yankees consider themselves better than everyone else (26 championships in about 100 years)? I never thought, as a Red Sox fan, I would read an article complaining about the Yankees and not agree with it. You use a terrible example to promote equality. And like most liberals only whine about something other than making a point and providing facts and solutions. What do you want? What is the point about bitching about capitalism? And just because you don’t use the words “capitalism” and “socialism” doesn’t mean you are not writing about the subject of equal distribution of wealth. I understand you are angry at the success of others and even more angry when the successful celebrate their well earned accolades. You are the same as the terrible persons who condemn the successful and the independently wealthy as if they did something wrong by making money and fulfilling their dreams. And I will continue to come to this site and enjoy it and please don’t stop posting these type of articles. It is necessary that everyone gets to read what people like yourself really think about the ones who have achieved the success that created America.

  • Azul Army | September 22, 2008 at 7:31 pm |

    You couldn’t just stick to your opinions on uniforms…
    Adios, Uni Watch.

  • SBC | September 22, 2008 at 7:33 pm |

    Mr Lukas wrote:
    “It’s fascinating to see today’s content described as “partisan,” “leftist,” etc. I didn’t mention the political parties, I didn’t mention the presidential candidates, nothing like that”

    Almost every comment you made that was non-uni or sports related would only have been said by someone on the the left of the political spectrum. (which is fine) The fact that you didn’t mention Obama/McCain or the election doesn’t take away from the fact that your post included alot of unecessary “leftist/liberal” commentary.

    “…Racism, whether or not you think it’s germane to this web site, is bad for ALL of us. If you think these are partisan issues, it says a lot more about your politics than it does about mine.”

    A complete STRAWMAN. Name anyone here who says, or has said, that racism isn’t bad. Implying that some posters don’t think it’s bad is a serious charge on your part. You need to either back up your charges, with examples, thereby allowing said posters to defend themselves, OR you need to retract your strawman.
    You make a serious mistake in suggesting that those poster’s who’ve taken umbrage with your post are doing so because they don’t think racism is bad, or because driving a SUV is ‘evil’. No, what is wrong with your post is suggesting, even tangentally, that being a Yankees fan (I’m not), or being sentimental about Yankee Stadium (I’m not), is somehow even remotely akin to white historical racism, or the country ‘going down the crapper’. Bringing those elements into a post about the Yankees is both unfair and wrong.

    Oh, and I think the orange Broncos uniforms look good, and I like purple! :)

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 7:39 pm |

    i don’t think anyone begrudges the wealth earned by someone who busts his ass and makes it big…that is what is good and right about america…for the most part, anyone can make it if he/she tries hard enough and catches a few breaks

    i DO think the vast majority of us, however, HATE the trust fund babies and idle rich types (see here and here) who feel they are born with a sense of entitlement

    now is it fair to equate the yankees or their fans to that trust fund wastrel? no

    however, i do believe there is a (right or wrong) stereotype of THE yankees which does encapsulate this thought:

    [quote]“We’re the goddamn Yankees, and the rest of you can go fuck yourselves.”[/quote]

    it’s that seeming sense of entitlement that emanates from river & 161st

    i think paul captured that quite well and got all of us thinking today

  • Matt | September 22, 2008 at 7:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”291041″]Paul,
    You are a hypocrite. YOU WORK FOR THE CORPORATE GIANT OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! Do you hesitate to cash those checks from ESPN? The same ESPN who has the \”Coors Light Cold Hard Facts\” and \”Sunday Night Baseball presented by Taco Bell\”. You\’re a fraud. You despise Nike but ESPN is the Nike of sports entertainment. Don\’t get me wrong, we all have to pay the rent but you\’re a joke. Wearing a a Yankee jersey or a t-shirt with a swoosh doesn\’t make you evil just like wearing a \”vintage\” t-shirt doesn\’t make you anti-establishment. Get off your high horse and stick to giving the details of uniforms.[/quote]

    You know, you’re right. Despite whatever’s going on with all the slashes, you’re right.

  • cah | September 22, 2008 at 7:51 pm |
  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 7:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”291009″][quote comment=”290978″]Seriously has anyone seen yankee tees like what Artie Lange is wearing in this clip?
    http://www.youtube.c...
    I have only seen those shirts at one of the stores (Stan’s or Baseball World?) outside of Yankee Stadium.

    These are not the shirts Matt referred to in Post #56 — they (example — http://shop.mlb.com/...) can be found just about anywhere.[/quote]

    My apologies…I can’t open youtube clips at school!
    I would still try mickeysplace and any other legitimate high end baseball shop online!

  • John S | September 22, 2008 at 8:10 pm |

    Great beginning to the post today.

    God Bless You, Paul Lukas.

  • Alex | September 22, 2008 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”291022″][quote comment=”291020″][quote comment=”290767″]“But by the time they do the 27-minute-long rendition of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch (which they still insist on doing for every freaking game)”

    Yes, it is so annoying to have to listen to a patriotic song instead of some semi-celebrity stumble through “Take Me Out to the Ball Game”. Us stupid, patriotic Americans, how dare we enjoy something that truly reps people who still give a shit about their country?

    Go move to fucking Canada with the rest of the self-loathing citizens.[/quote]
    If you need a song to make you feel patriotic, you’re insecure. I don’t need that at a game to tell me I love I love this country. And just because I might criticize and not always agree with how things are run, why the hell should I move? Do you pick a new team when you get upset with yours? Didn’t think so. Now please shut up.[/quote]
    why dont you make him, he was stating his opinion[/quote]
    Yeah, just like I was stating mine, unless you want to try and make me move to Canada.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 8:12 pm |

    If nothing else, we have, in fact, all flexed our First amendment muscles today!
    And some UW’ers have REALLY impressed me with their impassioned, yet logical posts!

    In supposedly, “bashing” America, Paul has been the catalyst in illustrating one of the Inalienable rights that make this a great place to live.

    However, I still haven’t gotten an answer to my cleat question from post #52.

  • noonan | September 22, 2008 at 8:14 pm |

    I feel the same way about the renovated Lambeau Field. It has neither the charm or the feeling of proximity to the game that the stadium had before they started putting in luxury boxes. The crowd has become much more scripted from prompts and less spontaneous. Nothing could beat the old lady in front of me starting a “Go Pack Go” cheer to encourage Lynn Dickie, it is much more real than having the jumbotron play the faux funk notes to encourage us to cheer. And, now there is a “G Force” flag they raise before games, who the heck decided fans in the stadium needed their own flag?

  • Marty | September 22, 2008 at 8:16 pm |

    What was that shit Tom Jackson was just walking amongst. Initially, I thought they were manequins. Then they started moving. Do they do that every week?
    By the way, facemasks and everything else were dead on.

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”290997″]what happened to free speech? its pauls site, he can say what he wants. im reading it, i can think of it as i want. Personally, i disagree with quite a bit of it but dont deride him for thinking it. you can also offer a counter point if you disagree like i do, but dont tell him to shut down a site thats his and free. i voted for bush, own several guns, oppose this federal bailout because it is government regulation for an economy nowhere near collapse (im an economist) im anti universal healthcare and pro iraq war. i respect pauls opinion but disagree

    i love america, support branding on something you own, not on something you dont (uniforms) i can express my views and so can paul. im a capitalist and maybe some arent, ill survive

    people need to get over themselves[/quote]

    well played!

  • Tree Missile | September 22, 2008 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”291046″][quote comment=”291041″]Paul,
    You are a hypocrite. YOU WORK FOR THE CORPORATE GIANT OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! Do you hesitate to cash those checks from ESPN? The same ESPN who has the \”Coors Light Cold Hard Facts\” and \”Sunday Night Baseball presented by Taco Bell\”. You\’re a fraud. You despise Nike but ESPN is the Nike of sports entertainment. Don\’t get me wrong, we all have to pay the rent but you\’re a joke. Wearing a a Yankee jersey or a t-shirt with a swoosh doesn\’t make you evil just like wearing a \”vintage\” t-shirt doesn\’t make you anti-establishment. Get off your high horse and stick to giving the details of uniforms.[/quote]

    You know, you’re right. Despite whatever’s going on with all the slashes, you’re right.[/quote]

    Except, you know, the whole underage workers in terrible working conditions for mere pennies per hour thing that Nike has going on…or the fact that the guy’s missing the point…or the fact that the guys information is both biased and inaccurate…you know, the little things…

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 8:22 pm |

    christ

    can’t anybody here play this game?

    if anybody needs me i’m outside banging my head against the concrete…ditch the fucking black caps, socks and dugout jackets and get back to the pins and blues

  • interlockingtc | September 22, 2008 at 8:29 pm |

    I’m not going to read all 360 responses. Suffice to say that Paul has articulated quite well what I have always felt about the Yankee corporate culture.

  • Cathy | September 22, 2008 at 8:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”290897″][quote comment=”290894″]Wow. I can’t believe it took this long for the obligatory “start your own site” email.

    That’s an original thought.[/quote]

    The reason people (myself included) say “So start your own site” or “If you don’t like it, go read something else” so frequently is that it’s a very appropriate response to someone complaining about the content on a free site that was created as an expressive outlet for one person’s sensibility.

    If someone keeps asking me “How much is 2 + 2?”, I’ll keep saying 4, and the answer will still be right, no matter how tiresome or “[un]original” you find it to be.[/quote]

    …ditto
    [quote comment=”290755″][quote comment=”290743″][quote comment=”290740″]Paul – This sandbox of yours, Uniwatch, has become part of my morning routine. I thoroughly enjoy your reading your insight and musings…..of those things sports-related. I must admit however that interjections, subtle or otherwise, of political commentary within non-politcal milieus have become all too commonplace and are frankly disappointing.

    You have a terrific site here Paul, and much like the “logo creep” of which you so aptly keep vigilant, please don’t sully your Uniwatch site as a forum for partisan politics.

    Best[/quote]

    Couldn’t have said it any better myself.[/quote]

    I agree. I’ve been going to UniWatch every morning — before even any news site — for a long as I can remember. It’s reflexive for me. 1) Turn on computer. 2) Go to UniWatch. An occasional political comment is nothing to get worked up about (who is to say I don’t agree?). But this morning’s post was pretty bad. The Yankees represent jingoism? Have you ever lived anywhere other than NYC? This post sounded more like you telling non-politically correct Americans they “can go f**k themselves”. I saw your post at first and initially thought “cool, a Mets fan is blasting the Yankees!” and was instead treated to “America’s chickens are coming home to roost”. I am now taking your website out of my bookmarks list.[/quote]

    No you won’t, you’ll be back. And, you will put the bookmark back on your list…you know you will.

  • Marty | September 22, 2008 at 8:33 pm |

    It’s too late and nobody is going to read what I have to say. It just makes it that much easier to say what I want to say.
    This is Uniwatch. This is Paul Lucas’ site. He can do what he wants. Agree or disagree with his points, they are his points and this IS his deal. This is supposed to be a site for people who “get it”. I’m not even a big fan of that terminology, but in context of the statement, I like to think that I do in fact “get it”.
    Apparently, there are quite a few of you who don’t.
    And you know what? I’m glad the Lakers and Vikings wear purple. Could you imagine anything else? It’s O.K. to disagree and shit. No need to get hellbent out of shape, Brothers. Chaka Khan!

  • Ryan | September 22, 2008 at 8:40 pm |

    Bruins are playing the Canadiens in an exhibition game in Halifax tonight. Per Fluto Shinzawa, Adam McQuaid’s name is misspelled as McQaiud on his jersey.

    http://www.boston.co...

    No photo yet.

  • Marty | September 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm |

    If only this were on “Page 2″… and Piazza was a Yankee!

  • JW | September 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm |

    I can’t believe what I’m reading! It is his damn site! If he wants to talk about clubbing seals in Alaska, he can because it it his site. We all have free will to visit the site or not, but damn, to get all worked up over his opinion about a damn baseball team and its stadium or his thoughts on anything is asinine. I love this site, don’t always agree on everything, but it’s interesting and fascinating all at the same time. If you don’t like it, find something else to read.

    Paul, keep on keeping on brotha! Don’t let the man get you down!

  • Matt | September 22, 2008 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”291055″][quote comment=”291046″][quote comment=”291041″]Paul,
    You are a hypocrite. YOU WORK FOR THE CORPORATE GIANT OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! Do you hesitate to cash those checks from ESPN? The same ESPN who has the \”Coors Light Cold Hard Facts\” and \”Sunday Night Baseball presented by Taco Bell\”. You\’re a fraud. You despise Nike but ESPN is the Nike of sports entertainment. Don\’t get me wrong, we all have to pay the rent but you\’re a joke. Wearing a a Yankee jersey or a t-shirt with a swoosh doesn\’t make you evil just like wearing a \”vintage\” t-shirt doesn\’t make you anti-establishment. Get off your high horse and stick to giving the details of uniforms.[/quote]

    You know, you’re right. Despite whatever’s going on with all the slashes, you’re right.[/quote]

    Except, you know, the whole underage workers in terrible working conditions for mere pennies per hour thing that Nike has going on…or the fact that the guy’s missing the point…or the fact that the guys information is both biased and inaccurate…you know, the little things…[/quote]

    No, look at what Paul wrote:

    But the biggest part of it is that the Yankees — and, by extension, the stadium — have become such a loathsome symbol of American corporate excess

    “Loathsome symbol of American corporate excess” sure reminds me of ESPN.

  • The Hemogoblin | September 22, 2008 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”291062″]I can’t believe what I’m reading! It is his damn site! If he wants to talk about clubbing seals in Alaska, he can because it it his site. We all have free will to visit the site or not, but damn, to get all worked up over his opinion about a damn baseball team and its stadium or his thoughts on anything is asinine. I love this site, don’t always agree on everything, but it’s interesting and fascinating all at the same time. If you don’t like it, find something else to read.

    Paul, keep on keeping on brotha! Don’t let the man get you down![/quote]

    Ooh. I’m going to start a junior golf academy with players from the California Golden Seals, and make them the Clubbin’ Baby Seals.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 9:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”291041″]Paul,
    You are a hypocrite. YOU WORK FOR THE CORPORATE GIANT OF SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! Do you hesitate to cash those checks from ESPN? The same ESPN who has the \”Coors Light Cold Hard Facts\” and \”Sunday Night Baseball presented by Taco Bell\”. You\’re a fraud. You despise Nike but ESPN is the Nike of sports entertainment. Don\’t get me wrong, we all have to pay the rent but you\’re a joke. Wearing a a Yankee jersey or a t-shirt with a swoosh doesn\’t make you evil just like wearing a \”vintage\” t-shirt doesn\’t make you anti-establishment. Get off your high horse and stick to giving the details of uniforms.[/quote]
    amen

  • subway | September 22, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”291043″]You couldn’t just stick to your opinions on uniforms…
    Adios, Uni Watch.[/quote]
    Just like post #360, you’ll be back. See you tomorrow.

  • Robert James | September 22, 2008 at 9:53 pm |

    I don’t know why people are getting all up in arms about Paul’s “hypocritical” stance on Nike and receiving checks from ESPN. The guy is a small cog at ESPN. A VERY small cog. Trust me, I have friends who work full time at ESPN, producers and behind-the-scenes people, and when I asked about Paul one time I got a puzzled look and a “who”? Paul’s not exactly a major player at ESPN.

  • Ricky J | September 22, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”290823″][quote comment=”290819″]The holder for Scobee’s game winning field goal was also wearing his wedding band and a rather large wrist watch.[/quote]

    Sorry, not Scobee, Gramatica’s kick.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    Here’s another pic:

    http://friendsofthep...

    maybe he’s married to Gramatica! haha

  • EK | September 22, 2008 at 10:02 pm |

    Bless you, Paul for saying what needs to be said.

    Preach it, brother.

    F*** Yankee Stadium.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”291070″]Bless you, Paul for saying what needs to be said.

    Preach it, brother.

    F*** Yankee Stadium.[/quote]
    fuck you, waste of life

  • Marty | September 22, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    Went to Arlington Hardware to buy some electrical tape… It’s all down hill… from here.

  • JeffB | September 22, 2008 at 10:09 pm |

    Those St. Louis Blues new third jerseys are damn awesome. The non-retro pants are unfortunate, but the shirts themselves are dead on great.

    If only they were CCM jerseys, I’d buy one.

  • cah | September 22, 2008 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”291071″][quote comment=”291070″]Bless you, Paul for saying what needs to be said.

    Preach it, brother.

    F*** Yankee Stadium.[/quote]
    fuck you, waste of life[/quote]

    That’s the kind of intellectual intercourse that 1.2 million of our fellow Americans have given their lives for since this country began.

    Or maybe, it’s the kind of dialog Al Gore had in mind when he took the initiative in creating the Internet.

    I can never keep that straight.

  • The Black Hand | September 22, 2008 at 10:16 pm |

    I fear that today’s comment thread is an example of an increasingly disturbing trend in the US today-namely intolerance for alternate viewpoints, a remarkable capacity for self-censorship of ideas and opinions different from one’s own, and and unflinching belief that the state is the arbiter of values, and the state as infallible.

    In fact, the comments have a nationalist odor to them. Blind Nationalism, from Europe in the 19th century, to some religous groups today is a root cause for many of the world’s issues.

    Let’s debate Paul on the points he has made, the substance of his arguments and not try to gaze deep into his soul to see if, indeed, he’s patriotic enough or shares your worldview and lives by your values. I remind everyone, that in most cases, you have never met Paul and you don’t really know Paul.

    Let’s celebrate individual freedom as a opposed to national identity. And in the new digital world, celebrate the democratization of publishing that the blog has created. Paul’s column today–and the energy and vigor he brings on a (near) daily basis, is exactly what’s right with the internet, with technology, and hopefully, what can help diffuse the blind groupthink that so often gums up public discourse.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote]fuck you, waste of life[/quote]

    lets see…”mets suck,”…”wrigley and fenway…are just old pieces of crap”…”why don’t you make him” and now the above gem

    nice

  • lwiedy | September 22, 2008 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”290952″]I’m not going to touch on the political ramifications for this article, but I would like to bring up one point in this article.

    “but anyone wearing an NOB replica should be barred from such shenanigans, no?”

    Being a die-hard NYY fan, I have a bone to pick with this statement. I’m a uniform lover, and I adore the Yankee uniform just the way it is. However, I own about 6 or 7 replica Yankee jerseys with NOB’s, and I wear them often. Simply because I don’t have hundreds of dollars to spend on authentic jerseys anytime I want a jersey, so I’ll go for the NOB replicas, and I don’t find any problem with that.[/quote]

    Wow, what a day in Uni-World. See what happens when you leave for 10 hours a come back? I’m only in the 200’s so I’ll stop now and reflect on what is important to me. I really don’t think that color was right in the Yankees flannels. I have found that over time, the color darkens. Perhaps because of the nature of the material. I have a flannel from 1969 that I KNOW was pure white and now is a “Giants Cream”.

    I really liked the comment about the relatively “new” mentality of the “26 Rings Gang”. As stated earlier, the guys who earned MOST of those are some of the most unassuming gentlemen you will ever meet. Two individuals extraordinarily close to me were members of the organization for a short period time “back in the day” (1950’s) and I can tell you they were extremely put off about the sense of royalty that was prevalent in more recent years.

    Lastly, I posted off the above comment because I too, find NOB on Yankee jerseys abhorrent. I did not realize that unless you wanted to buy authentic, you had to settle for NOB. BUT I’M HERE TO HELP. I have a number of Yankee authentics (they are Russell, but with no “R” on the sleeve) and if this poor soul wants one, I would me more than happy to send him one.

    If you contact Paul, he can put you in touch with me. The jerseys are new; I have a number of sizes and have templates for most of the Yankee numbers. You are more than welcome if this is something you wish.

  • Matt H. | September 22, 2008 at 10:22 pm |

    Has anyone else noticed that Favre is wearing a gold shirt underneath his Jets’ jersey? Noticed it last weeks vs. Pats too. Sorry, no pics.

  • derek | September 22, 2008 at 10:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”291077″][quote]fuck you, waste of life[/quote]

    lets see…”mets suck,”…”wrigley and fenway…are just old pieces of crap”…”why don’t you make him” and now the above gem

    nice[/quote]
    i know

  • Matt H. | September 22, 2008 at 10:28 pm |

    found pics from last week’s game. hard to make out, but look at his collar in 1st pic.

    http://www.nytimes.c...

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 10:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”291081″]found pics from last week’s game. hard to make out, but look at his collar in 1st pic.

    http://www.nytimes.c...

    I think those are his pads, and he most likely brought them over with him from Green Bay. He’s had those since Game One I think.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 10:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”291081″]found pics from last week’s game. hard to make out, but look at his collar in 1st pic.

    http://www.nytimes.c...

    i don’t think that’s his collar–i think those are his shoulder pads

    someone with better uni-sense than i postulated last week that he’s got his old pack equipment, including a repainted helmet…sounds good to me

    YMMV

  • dbp | September 22, 2008 at 10:49 pm |

    Let’s go Cubs

  • Marty | September 22, 2008 at 11:00 pm |

    Chaka Khan let me rock you, let me rock you Chaka Khan. Let me rock you, that’s all I want to do.

  • Luke | September 22, 2008 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”290981″][quote comment=”290975″][quote comment=”290973″]Can’t we all just get along? I like most other people hate the Yankees. Having said that I respect the Yankees (to an extent) for their virtual monopoly over the baseball world. Unfortunately they, along with the Mets, Red Sox, and a few other teams have taken baseball and ruined it for fans in most other cities. So while everyone bickers about their naming rights, stadium sendoffs, and vehicles with poor gas mileage; I’m left wondering if ever in my life I will see a winning baseball season.

    I realize baseball is the national pasttime and all, but lets not forget… It’s just a game.[/quote]

    how have the mets ruined baseball for teams in other cities?

    all those world series they’ve “bought”? all those top free agents they’ve stolen? all that revenue sharing they give to the royals and marlins?[/quote]

    And considering recent winners of the World Series (aside from the Red Sox) have been lower payroll teams like the Marlins, D-Backs, and Cardinals, I don’t get it.

    I understand the disdain toward big market teams. They seemingly have all the money and can pick whoever they want off the free-agent market. But they share their revenue. Now, if the owner of a small-market club chooses not to use that revenue towards improving the quality of his players and the product on the field, well, whose fault is that?

    Ballclub owners are all billionaires. Some choose to spend millions upon millions of dollars on their ballclub while other owners don’t.

    And how exactly has the virtual monopoly over the baseball world been working out for the Yankees, Mets and Red Sox the last 7-8 years or so…? Two world titles for Boston and, uhm, that’s it.

    Not to say the system is prefect, but really, this whole discussion about large and small market teams really started when the Yankees won 4 Series in 5 years. Before that, when the Yankees were a perennially bad team, there was nary a peep. In fact, I remember people lamenting that one of MLB’s flagship franchises was being so badly mismanaged.[/quote]

    You’re misusing shared revenues here. The NFL shares revenues. EVERYONE gets the same slice of the pie. Yes they do share in the MLB, but the big money teams are still taking almost all the cake. If revenue was evenly shared you wouldn’t have a gap of $100 million in team payrolls.

    Yes, there have been small market teams who have won the world series recently.

    Yes, you can say “The Yankees (or whatever big market team you choose) deserve it because they do bring in the most revenue.” Ok, the MLB can take that route, but its only going to continue to hurt the game. Fans in many cities lose interest knowing that heading into the season, there team doesn’t stand a chance. And while often it is due to their own follies, big revenue teams can afford these mistakes and brush them aside as if they were nothing.

    Example: How much money have the Yankees put into starting pitching? Carl Pavano for one, followed by a trail of mediocre pitchers. If the Royals or Pirates make a poor signing like such, they will struggle mightily throughout the duration of their mistaken contract.

    I didn’t call out the Mets individually either. Though they do have “stolen” FAs on their team. Johan Santana ring a bell? Carlos Beltran? I’m sure the Twins and Royals would have loved to keep those players, such a shame. You develop well and still can’t win.

    (Yes I know Beltran also played for the Astros)

  • Morty | September 22, 2008 at 11:25 pm |

    1969—70 Gale Sayers jersey on Antiques Roadshow tonight:

    http://www.pbs.org/w...

    It was a repeat from a couple of years ago, but still cool.

  • Mr. Met | September 22, 2008 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”291086″]I didn’t call out the Mets individually either. Though they do have “stolen” FAs on their team. Johan Santana ring a bell? Carlos Beltran? I’m sure the Twins and Royals would have loved to keep those players, such a shame. You develop well and still can’t win.

    (Yes I know Beltran also played for the Astros)[/quote]

    Santana was acquired via a trade with the Twins, not through free agency. I’ll grant you Beltran, although the Mets weren’t the only big market team that went for him.

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:34 pm |

    [quote]Johan Santana ring a bell?[/quote]

    the guy the mets TRADED for?

    royals get 3 prospects for beltran

    facts…check them

    /and if it were so easy to just BUY a world series…don’t you think the cubs would have one by now (or at least, one in the last 100 years, that is)

  • LI Phil | September 22, 2008 at 11:38 pm |

    damn you mr. met ;)…why is it taking me 5 minutes to post (this is the SLOWEST i’ve ever seen this board)

  • Chad | September 22, 2008 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”291053″]What was that shit Tom Jackson was just walking amongst. Initially, I thought they were manequins. Then they started moving. Do they do that every week?
    By the way, facemasks and everything else were dead on.[/quote]

    ESPN is using Madden 09 to diagram their analysts’ points of discussion and yeah it is kinda freaky. In regards to all this political discussion- this is not the place for it.

  • Flip | September 22, 2008 at 11:40 pm |

    Everybody else is posting, so I may as well join the show.

    Fact: Yankee fans ARE arrogant.

    Fact: Fans of other teams are annoyed that Yankee fans ARE arrogant.

    Fact: Knowing that they annoy other fans — in particular, Saux fans — makes Yankee fans that much more arrogant. And so goes the circle.

    When the Royals finally beat the Yankees in 980 to go to the Series, it was FAR more gratifying than when they came back from three down to beat Toronto in 1985. Hating the Yankees and BEATING the Yankees is part of the game. A big part of the game.

    End of rant.

    Now my question, and I can’t believe this isn’t a baseball question: Regarding the SOD trend: When the System of Dress was introduced, Nike made a big deal out of how each uniform was unique besides the number and NOB. Something like the players’ names were threaded into the fabric or something.In the case of Florida, the fabric resembled gator scales. Is there still some individualism in the uniforms? If so, what is it?

  • MPowers1634 | September 22, 2008 at 11:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”291083″][quote comment=”291081″]found pics from last week’s game. hard to make out, but look at his collar in 1st pic.

    http://www.nytimes.c...

    i don’t think that’s his collar–i think those are his shoulder pads

    someone with better uni-sense than i postulated last week that he’s got his old pack equipment, including a repainted helmet…sounds good to me

    YMMV[/quote]

    Pads=yes
    Helmet=No way…chips too easily

  • failos2002 | September 23, 2008 at 12:01 am |

    I very rarely post here, but I felt like I wanted to go for zillionth comment of the day. (“Zillionth!”)

    Bottom line: I don’t always agree with Paul’s politics, I don’t always care for the site content, I don’t always like what the uniform topic of the day is, and I don’t hate purple with a blinding passion.

    But I check the site every single day without fail because I enjoy checking in. Some of you need to check in a little less often, perhaps, or, if the topic at hand is a particular sore spot for you, maybe you should check back out again. Bottom line: I have a blog and say whatever I want. Paul has a blog and says whatever he wants. Newsflash: we don’t all agree on everything. Doesn’t mean we can’t be civil and even sometimes agree to disagree.

    Paul, I’m sure days like today make you question, just a little bit, why you even do this in the first place, since you’re under no obligation to do it. But I, for one, am thankful. If the site gets too politicky or whatever for me, I’ll move on. Until then, keep it up.

  • Mr. Met | September 23, 2008 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”291089″][quote]Johan Santana ring a bell?[/quote]

    the guy the mets TRADED for?

    royals get 3 prospects for beltran

    facts…check them

    /and if it were so easy to just BUY a world series…don’t you think the cubs would have one by now (or at least, one in the last 100 years, that is)[/quote]

    And I will say this: For all the pooh-poohing about big market teams getting all the big free agents, really, when was the last time that a free agent made a difference on a team? All those years that the Yankees were winning their titles, a lot of their players were home grown and their “impact” free agents were hardly guys that were highly sought by other teams (Paul O’Neill, Tino Martinez, Scott Brosius, Joe Girardi), so it’s not like the Yankees were throwing money around to get where they got. In fact, I remember when Paul O’Neill became a free agent in New York, he had offers that were more than what the Yankees were offering him, but decided to stay in New York (and I specifically recall him saying something along the lines that he had more money than he knew what to do with, so why give up what he had in New York just so he could make more somewhere else).

    If you think about it, ever since the Yankees started throwing money at players (Mike Mussina, Jason Giambi, Carl Pavano, Johnny Damon, Alex Rodriguez), they haven’t done anything. Got beaten in the Series by the Diamondbacks and Marlins, who combined didn’t come anywhere near their payroll. A couple of First round exits here and there.

    The big impact free agent is becoming a thing a thing of the past. Most teams that are successful have a core of young homegrown players and usually bring in a free agent or two to help shore the team up. Fiscal irresponsibility by teams like the Yankees and the Mets (remember the spending sprees of the 90’s?) hasn’t exactly been bringing in the titles.

  • max | September 23, 2008 at 12:09 am |

    damn I don’t think you could have put it any better. Something makes me proud for rooting for my Houston teams. We don’t win as much, not a huge media market, but it means so much more when we just make a run at a championship. Plus it takes a lot more dedication. look at how fickle spoiled fans are, NY booed A-rod for his playoff performances, but they obviously did not appreciate how he was the main reason they were even in the playoffs.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 12:13 am |

    [quote]Fiscal irresponsibility by teams like the Yankees and the Mets (remember the spending sprees of the 90’s?) hasn’t exactly been bringing in the titles.[/quote]

    yeah…but if your team is the pirates, it’s a convenient excuse for why your team sucks

    (sorry douggie)

  • dwight | September 23, 2008 at 12:23 am |

    Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.

  • MikeyB | September 23, 2008 at 12:26 am |

    About Mitch Maier wearing the earflap thing – he was hit in the face by a pitch a few weeks ago.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 12:26 am |

    [quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes

  • dwight | September 23, 2008 at 12:26 am |

    and 400 posts is a lot of readers posting in 1 day. congrats on the flow paul, keep up the good work. and for those of you who disagree with Mr. Lukas’ opinion (or anyone elses), AMEN to you, keep it up, that’s your right and what makes this site fun.

    Boo Cubs.

  • dwight | September 23, 2008 at 12:27 am |

    [quote comment=”291100″][quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes[/quote]

    Thank you sir – that would have looked MUCH better tonight (socks i mean)

  • dwight | September 23, 2008 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”291102″][quote comment=”291100″][quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes[/quote]

    she’s cute as hell btw

    Thank you sir – that would have looked MUCH better tonight (socks i mean)[/quote]

  • dwight | September 23, 2008 at 12:32 am |

    [quote comment=”291102″][quote comment=”291100″][quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes[/quote]

    Thank you sir – that would have looked MUCH better tonight (socks i mean)[/quote]

    Meant to say here:

    she’s cute as hell btw

  • Sammy | September 23, 2008 at 12:32 am |

    Wow. I have read every post, and I am impressed by the highs and lows of the debate. I don’t really have anything more to add; everything I would say has been said.

    Except this. Everyone, starting with Paul, complains about the arrogance with which the Yankees operate their organization. There are exceptions, of course, but in my observation, pretty much every big sports team, corporation, heck, even certain public institutions exude the same vibe. Maybe it’s not to the same degree, and it doesn’t get the same visibility as the Yankees, but almost any big organization has to have some degree of hubris and arrogance to imagine themselves so important in others’ eyes. I don’t like the Yankees, and I am somewhat jealous of their success as a baseball team, but I find nothing particularly repulsive or distinctive in their business practices.

    In the same vein, I don’t think the corporate “bluster” is particular to the Yankees in the pageantry, self-importance, and demonstrations of patriotism. Sporting events are entertainment at their heart, and all are somewhat kitschy. Like Paul said last year about LaDanian Tomlinson jumping around with the American Flag, it demonstrates the idea that rooting for the Yankees/Chargers/any other team is more patriotic than the other team. Obviously, it’s not true, but the teams do whatever they can to appeal to everyone. I don’t feel that it’s a reflection of arrogance in the front office, but simply an honest, if maybe misguided, effort to honor the country that allows grown men to play games for millions of dollars. The Lions will still come out from a tunnel accompanied by fog and lights for their next home game, no matter how bad they are; every other last-place team will do their own badass introductions. Yes, the whole ceremony is overblown, but equally overblown by everyone, and the Yankees do not deserve to be called out individually without considering that they are just part of a general pattern within America’s corporate culture.

  • LI Phil | September 23, 2008 at 12:38 am |

    [quote comment=”291102″][quote comment=”291100″][quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes[/quote]

    Thank you sir – that would have looked MUCH better tonight (socks i mean)[/quote]

    actually…thank you

    i usually pick up on things like that…didn’t even catch it until you asked…(although, i WAS thinking ‘something’ is different about their uni tonight)

  • Mr. Met | September 23, 2008 at 12:48 am |

    [quote comment=”291106″][quote comment=”291102″][quote comment=”291100″][quote comment=”291098″]Did the Jets wear different socks tonight? I mean, don’t they usually wear green socks w/ the white pants? I like the white on white, but the all white (read: mostly white) socks are a little much.[/quote]

    yes[/quote]

    Thank you sir – that would have looked MUCH better tonight (socks i mean)[/quote]

    actually…thank you

    i usually pick up on things like that…didn’t even catch it until you asked…(although, i WAS thinking ‘something’ is different about their uni tonight)[/quote]

    Actually, for the last few years the Jets have been wearing the white striped socks with the away whites. I think there was one preseason game last year where they wore the green socks with the away whites, but ever since they introduced the green pants and the striped socks, they have almost exclusively gone with green socks with green tops/white pants, striped socks with green tops/green pants, striped socks with white tops/green pants, and striped socks with white tops/white pants.

    I personally prefer the green socks with the white pants myself.

  • Zach Seidel | September 23, 2008 at 1:02 am |

    So i was at the Ravens game on Sunday and was in the team store looking at hats. I pick up one that has the logo on front and the conference and division on the back. Well the one I pick up says NFC South, I got pics, but has anyone else had anything like this happen?

  • Eric B in KC | September 23, 2008 at 1:02 am |

    [quote comment=”291086″]If the Royals…make a poor signing… [/quote]

    what do you mean “if?”

  • Micah | September 23, 2008 at 1:36 am |

    Got damn, there sure was a record number of comments today! Other than the Oregon Duck post that Paul did way back in the summer of 2006 when he interviewed Tinker Hatfield, one of the designers of the Duck unis, did I see this many comments! Anyway, Paul, c’mon man, that palm Swoosh has been there for two years now, geez! LOL.

  • haroldP | September 23, 2008 at 1:51 am |

    quick question for you, Paul. Was it worth it?

  • Paul Lukas | September 23, 2008 at 2:18 am |

    [quote comment=”291111″]quick question for you, Paul. Was it worth it?[/quote]

    How wouldn’t it have been? I mean, what was the down side?

  • jason | September 23, 2008 at 2:39 am |

    Quick question for you, haroldP. When you said you were taking the site out of your bookmarks, did you mean to imply that you’d never be coming back to the site? Because here you are. I guess you know the URL by heart and don’t need a bookmark.

    You see, that’s the thing I love about America the most: Its citizens get to say whatever they feel, without restraint. The right response if you disagree with someone is to walk away or to express your disagreement. The people who suggest that someone like Paul has no right to express his opinion in his own venue? Those people are the ones who are being un-American.

    (Also, “God Bless America” is a terrible song, and the Yankees’ use of it is pandering and distasteful. There, I said it. But then, I always preferred “America the Beautiful.”)

  • david | September 23, 2008 at 2:57 am |

    who is the most annoying fan? rudy or judith? you can make a strong case for either

  • haroldP | September 23, 2008 at 3:08 am |

    [quote comment=”291113″]Quick question for you, haroldP. When you said you were taking the site out of your bookmarks, did you mean to imply that you’d never be coming back to the site? Because here you are. I guess you know the URL by heart and don’t need a bookmark.

    You see, that’s the thing I love about America the most: Its citizens get to say whatever they feel, without restraint. The right response if you disagree with someone is to walk away or to express your disagreement. The people who suggest that someone like Paul has no right to express his opinion in his own venue? Those people are the ones who are being un-American.

    (Also, “God Bless America” is a terrible song, and the Yankees’ use of it is pandering and distasteful. There, I said it. But then, I always preferred “America the Beautiful.”)[/quote]

    Well come on now, jason, you know we all need to see this day through to the end. I start work tomorrow at 7:30am PST and this is it for me. If that means “good riddance” then so be it. And yes, “uniwatchblog.com” is quite easy to remember.

    But it’s not “un-American” to hold people responsible for what they say. The 1st Amendment applies to the government intruding on our lives, it doesn’t give people a free pass to not be held accountable. If you say something that pisses people off, you may pay the price. Examples: Don Imus. The Dixie Chicks. In Paul’s case, he loses at least one regular viewer, which he apparently doesn’t care about. That makes it all the easier. I should probably remind people that a few years ago Gregg Easterbrook was actually fired from espn for comments about an ethnic group he made on another site. Would you guys make the same defense for him? Free speech? Or was THAT going over the line, rather than, you know, implying racism and jingosim to a group of people for no reason. Freedom of Speech does not exonorate you from responsibility for what you say. It merely prohbits the governement from making a law to shut you up.

    Paul thinking that it was worth it sums up the whole day. “What was the down side?”. You lost a reader. If you think that’s ok, then I don’t know what else to say except that the “civic responsbility” that you wish cities and teams and advertisers would show to the public don’t apply to you.

  • gak | September 23, 2008 at 4:21 am |

    And after it’s all ended in tears, why not reach for the tissue for those who know what true losses are like.

    Seattle Supersonics 2-Ply Premium Facial Tissues: branding both cruelly ironic and easy on your sinuses.

  • cah | September 23, 2008 at 8:01 am |

    Paul, please let us know how many Christmas cards you get from Red Saux fans. I mean, if you piss off the Yankees, that has to be worth something to them.

  • MPowers1634 | September 23, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    [quote comment=”291110″]Got damn, there sure was a record number of comments today! Other than the Oregon Duck post that Paul did way back in the summer of 2006 when he interviewed Tinker Hatfield, one of the designers of the Duck unis, did I see this many comments! Anyway, Paul, c’mon man, that palm Swoosh has been there for two years now, geez! LOL.[/quote]

    WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can stomach all of the First Amendment
    Non uni-related Rubbish that people were discussing yesterday, but I am absolutely appalled that Paul interviewed Tinker Hatfield and none alerted me to this?

    Shame on all of you, Shame!

  • Paul Lukas | September 23, 2008 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”291115″]Paul thinking that it was worth it sums up the whole day. “What was the down side?”. You lost a reader. If you think that’s ok, then I don’t know what else to say except that the “civic responsbility” that you wish cities and teams and advertisers would show to the public don’t apply to you.[/quote]

    The idea that it’s my “responsibility” (civic or otherwise) to keep you happy enough so that you keep coming back here every day is beyond hilarious. From now on I’ll run all my story ideas past you in advance, just to make sure they meet with your approval.

    The reason there’s no down side is that I wrote what I believe and stood by it. If I lose a reader, that’s unfortunate, but it’s no different than losing a reader who gets sick of all of Uni Watch’s historical-based content (several people have told me they prefer that I write about “stuff that’s happening now”) or if I lose a reader who simply gets bored with uniforms (I’ve actually had people request that I branch out into other areas of sports because uniforms are “too esoteric”).

    Also, here’s a thought: Has it occurred to you that I may have gained some readers yesterday? I don’t know if I did, and personally I don’t think it really enters into the equation, but your implicit suggestion that YOUR response represents everyone else’s response is fairly breathtaking in its sweep.

    In short, I can’t please everyone, and at the end of the day I can only be true to myself. Some people may not like what myself has to say, and that’s fine. Your decision to read what you choose is just as valid as my decision to write what I choose. If both of those decisions are based on honest thoughts and feelings, I think we’ve both upheld our responsibilities as reader and writer. And no, I don’t see the down side in that.

  • ScottS | September 23, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    Paul has a “civic responsibility”, just like Nike? Now THAT is funny.

    What’s even funnier is that Derek, by posting so often over a six hour period, made money for Paul by driving page loads every time he put up a new message, every time he clicked refresh, and every time he “inspired” anyone else to post a response. (Paul, if your ad revenue, such as it is, is not hit-driven, just shush – it amuses me to think so.) No down side, indeed.

  • Leon | September 23, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    United forever in friendship and labour,
    Our mighty republics will ever endure.
    The great Soviet Union will live through the ages.
    The dream of a people their fortress secure.

    CHORUS:
    Long live our Soviet Motherland, built by the people’s mighty hand.
    Long live our People, united and free.
    Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our crimson flag inspire,
    Shining in glory for all men to see.

    Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin led us
    Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above
    and Stalin our Leader with faith in the People,
    Inspired us to build up the land that we love.

    CHORUS:
    Long live our Soviet Motherland, built by the people’s mighty hand.
    Long live our People, united and free.
    Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our crimson flag inspire,
    Shining in glory for all men to see.

    We fought for the future, destroyed the invader,
    and brought to our homeland the Laurels of Fame.
    Our glory will live in the memory of nations
    and all generations will honour her name.

    CHORUS:
    Long live our Soviet Motherland, built by the people’s mighty hand.
    Long live our People, united and free.
    Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our crimson flag inspire,
    Shining in glory for all men to see.

  • Johnny F. | September 23, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”291119″][quote comment=”291115″]Paul thinking that it was worth it sums up the whole day. “What was the down side?”. You lost a reader. If you think that’s ok, then I don’t know what else to say except that the “civic responsbility” that you wish cities and teams and advertisers would show to the public don’t apply to you.[/quote]

    The idea that it’s my “responsibility” (civic or otherwise) to keep you happy enough so that you keep coming back here every day is beyond hilarious. From now on I’ll run all my story ideas past you in advance, just to make sure they meet with your approval.

    The reason there’s no down side is that I wrote what I believe and stood by it. If I lose a reader, that’s unfortunate, but it’s no different than losing a reader who gets sick of all of Uni Watch’s historical-based content (several people have told me they prefer that I write about “stuff that’s happening now”) or if I lose a reader who simply gets bored with uniforms (I’ve actually had people request that I branch out into other areas of sports because uniforms are “too esoteric”).

    Also, here’s a thought: Has it occurred to you that I may have gained some readers yesterday? I don’t know if I did, and personally I don’t think it really enters into the equation, but your implicit suggestion that YOUR response represents everyone else’s response is fairly breathtaking in its sweep.

    In short, I can’t please everyone, and at the end of the day I can only be true to myself. Some people may not like what myself has to say, and that’s fine. Your decision to read what you choose is just as valid as my decision to write what I choose. If both of those decisions are based on honest thoughts and feelings, I think we’ve both upheld our responsibilities as reader and writer. And no, I don’t see the down side in that.[/quote]

    Actually Paul, you did gain a few readers yesterday. I enjoyed you entry so much, I posted it on facebook. I’ve received many responses from people who thought it was well written, and agreed with it. I’ve also received responses from people who will be checking out the site now, because they enjoyed the style of it (after linking to it from the facebook link).

    You may have lost a few close-minded readers, but you gaine, in my small estimate, many more.

  • kevin | September 23, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    More politics!! Love the commentary! Seriously, if there is that much money floating around NYC for baseball owners, then there should be at least one more MLB team playing in NYC. Perhaps the Rays. Then maybe the rest of the league could compete salary-wise. Boston, too!

  • Howard | September 23, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    Sorry if this was posted before and I missed it, but Pawtucket Red Sox do play God Bless America (the loooong version that repeats several times), at the end of the 6th inning. As a result, nobody stands up for 7th inning stretch.

  • nicole | September 23, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”290956″][quote comment=”290814″]What really bothers me is the number of you complaining about “God Bless America.”[/quote]

    I’ll try to explain. First off, and this is important, I’m deeply conservative (read “traditionalist”) when it comes to patriotism. I love America, I know exactly why I love America, and I am never shy about expressing or explaining my love of country. What’s more, I am a firm believer in old-fashioned patriotic display. Give me cloth bunting and a brass band playing Soussa marches and I’m a happy guy. I know the U.S. Flag Code and argue the point with neighbors who violate it. I know the words to nearly every patriotic song, usually all the verses, and I’m the kind of guy who by sheer force of example can cause entire ballpark sections to actually sing the national anthem.

    And I hate “God Bless America.”

    Why? Because I love patriotic songs, and “God Bless America” is neither patriotic nor a song. Think of any other patriotic song ever written, from “Hail Columbia” to “The Battle Cry of Freedom” to Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA.” What do they all have in common? They all say at least something about why America is a commendable example worthy of a patriot’s devotion. “God Bless America” contains not one word of actual praise for America. Not one word!

    And it’s not a song; it’s a prayer. Worse, it’s a terrible prayer. I try not to pretend to know the mind of God, but I have to believe that every time He hears someone sing “God Bless America,” He says to Himself, “The mountains, prairies, and foamy oceans are My blessings to your country, you ungrateful little primate.” It’s the kind of whiny, pleading, missing-the-point prayer that when children say it in church, any pastor or priest or rabbi worth his salt will take the child aside and offer a gentle lesson about what prayer is really all about.

    Is the Seventh Inning Stretch the appropriate time for a commercial business to force people to sing a second patriotic song? Maybe, maybe not. But that question does not arise in this case, because “God Bless America” is not a patriotic song.[/quote]

    My biggest “problem” with God Bless America, especially during the 7th inning stretch, is the standing, removing of hats and hands over hearts.

    It IS NOT the national anthem. When you do those things, you are treating the song as you would The Star Spangled Banner, and, IMO, devaluing the Anthem. Every song about America does not require you to remove your hat, face the flag and cover your heart. When you do those things during songs other than the National Anthem, you’re taking away from the special-ness that is the playing of the Anthem.

    I’m not expressing myself well, but it bothers me when people do those things, equating God Bless America with the National Anthem and giving it the same reverence. There is ONE song that deserves and demands that reverence. To do so during other songs is to make a mockery of the National Anthem.

  • Michael | September 23, 2008 at 7:14 pm |

    FUCKKKKKKKK!!!

  • Tim | September 23, 2008 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”290769″]two things: first- checked out the nfl jersey fan site, nothing special at all, I won’t return.
    Second, as to the Yankees remarks, saying the Yankees are tied to an out-moded idea of America is interesting, but here it is underdeveloped and seem narrow-minded in the space you provide for them. You aren’t necessarily wrong, but I think you did it poorly here, and in the process fell back on some pretty small-minded ideas about what the US is like outside of NYC.[/quote]

    I agree with this. I think your basic premise had merit and was sort of Chuck Klosterman-esque in looking at the connections between sports, culture and politics. However it came across more angry than insightful on the whole and therefore tainted the overall message.

    That being said, criticizing the US does not make you anti-American or un-patriotic. People who refuse to acknowledge or deal with the many faults that our country has are more responsible for it’s (relative) decline than those who point them out. There is a difference between criticism of the sake of criticism and constructive, meaningful criticism, but the latter is essential. Nothing done by humans is perfect, and to ignore that prevents us from improving.

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