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‘Are you familiar with alcohol?’: A Visit with Scott Little

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Back in February I started getting notes from a guy in Washington State. His e-mails showed up in my in-box as being from “S burns,” but he signed them as “Scott Little.” By any name, he appeared to be a bit of a character. For example, he claimed to have a monster collection of uniforms, Starter jackets, and Nike sneakers, all culled from thrift stores (“Yeah, $4.99 jerseys for me all day, baby — I can’t afford retail”) and included some photos of his stash to back up his words. “Please note, though,” he added, “I’m underground and want it to stay that way for now, so can we keep this between us? I’m not interested in anyone contacting me looking for stuff. But if you ever make it to the Pacific NW, I’d be happy to let you take a peek.”

Was he legit? I didn’t know and really didn’t care — I enjoyed his communiqués. At one point he sent me some pics of an old Oregon baseball helmet, which he allowed me to post in the Ticker (“I’m not THAT reclusive,” he said). But that same e-mail also included a photo of an astonishing old Oregon football jersey — supposedly part of his collection, but he asked me not to post the photo, which again made me wonder if he was just jerking my chain.

As I’ve now learned, his name is indeed Scott Little (the “S burns” thing is based on a nickname that’s not worth explaining here), and he was the star of the show at the recent Uni Watch party in Portland, where he conducted a very entertaining show-and-tell session (if you missed my recent entry on that gathering, look here).

During that party, Scott repeated his invitation for me to come see his collection in person. So two days later, after road-tripping our way through southwestern Washington (including a visit to Mt. St. Helens, where the visitors’ center had a model volcano with what might be history’s most amusing button), Collateral Gammage and I swung by the town of Longview, where Scott lives and works.

We began at Triangle Bowl, the keggling center that Scott co-owns with his brother and another partner. Very cool place, full of retro graphics and some great original details (although it’s a shame that the gorgeous old Brunswick masking units have been covered by this new-school nonsense). Scott took us behind the lanes, where we got to see the pinsetters — original 1950s models, don’tcha know. Got to climb around on them too, which provided some great views of their inner workings (additional shots here and here). There were boxes of pins and shelves of parts all over the place. Too bad Scott’s 85-year-old mechanic wasn’t around, because he sounds like a real piece of work. “He needed a replacement part earlier today so we looked it up in the catalog and it cost $1.21,” said Scott. “And he yelled, ‘$1.21? I remember when it was a five fucking cents!'”

Naturally, we bowled a game. My form wasn’t bad, although I was stuck using a house ball (always extra-tough for a lefty, since house balls are almost invariably drilled for righties), while Scott had all three of his personal balls. Considering that disparity, plus the fact that I hadn’t bowled in about two months, plus-plus the level of competition, I thought I held my own reasonably well.

After that we drove over to Scott’s house, where I finally got to see his stash — and it did not disappoint. He had two full rooms jam-packed with stuff, the first of which was brimming with Nike sneakers (additional pics here, here, here, and here) and tons of shelves and racks full of jerseys and jackets (one of which had a really great label). And sure enough, lots of them still had their thrift store price tags.

The next room featured baseball jerseys, hockey jerseys, Starter jackets, more sneakers, and some other stuff that I only dimly recall — my head was kinda spinning by this point, and everything was really cramped. I really loved this jersey‘s sleeve patch; this one’s, too. And I’d never seen anything like this reversible Knicks jacket. Plus there was a DePaul warmup jacket that was so cool, I had to try it on. Too bad the zipper was broken.

And what have we here? The 1930s Oregon football jersey that Scott had told me about months earlier! It’s got a satin body with knit trim, Wilson tagging, a chain-stitched player name, and lots of hand-sewn mending. With Scott’s permission, I tried it on and wore it for the rest of our visit. One of the most beautiful things I’ve ever had the privilege of wearing, and I don’t mind telling you that it took all my restraint not to conk Scott on the head with a beer bottle just so I could make off with it.

About that player name: As you can see, the jersey was worn by someone named Gammon. “It was in my collection for a couple of years, and then this finally popped up on the web,” says Scott. “It looks like he’s wearing shiny pants and a non-shiny jersey with stripes on the sleeves. Do I have the jersey matching those pants he’s wearing?” Good question. Anyone know more?

Super-duper thanks to Scott for inviting us into his home and bowling emporium, and for being such an entertaining host — next round’s on me, dude. Thanks also to Collateral, who took just about all the photos linked herein and was the best road-trip partner a fella could ever hope for.

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Yearbook Sale: A few weeks ago, reader Brinke Guthrie pointed me toward an eBay listing for three old Jets yearbooks — 1970, 1971, and 1972 — which he figured I might be interested in. I thought they might have lots of interesting uni-related photos, so I bought them.

As it turns out, I only found one uni-notable photo (more on that in a sec), but the yearbooks are full of old pics and info that I’m sure would be of great interest to any Jets fan. Sadly, I’m not a Jets fan myself, so I’ve decided to re-sell the yearbooks. I could just put them back on eBay, but I’d rather give Uni Watch readers first crack at them. I’m asking for the same amount that I paid for them: $10 each. If you’re interested in buying one, two, or all three, The 1970 and ’71 editions have already sold; if you’d like to purchase the 1972 edition, get in touch.

As for the one photo that caught my eye, it’s this one. Note the nose guard being worn by the Chiefs player — instead of an open U shape, as was common in that era, the K.C. player has a closed U. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.

Uni Watch News Ticker: University of Detroit Mercy (UDM) has changed its athletics logo from this to this. “Personally I hate the change,” writes UDM alum Jim Thorburn. “Too cartoonish for me. I’m not the biggest fan of the old logo and agree that it needed a change, but this was a downgrade in my book.” … New logo for the University of South Alabama, too (old, new). Details here, and a detailed PDF of specs here (with thanks to Jonathon Binet). … Nice shot here of the day in 1997 when the Indians saluted Jim Thome’s birthday by going high-cuffed (with thanks to Greg Riffenburgh). … Jeez (as forwarded by John Buckler). … Here’s another video, plus photos and accompanying article, about graphics being applied to a hockey rink (with thanks to Tom Konecny). … New Yankees pitcher Alfredo Aceves is wearing No. 91 in honor of Dennis Rodman (with thanks to Tyler Kepner). … Joseph Senne points out that Auburn and UT Martin, whose uniforms are more or less identical, are slated to play each other on homecoming weekend. … RedEye, one of those freebie commuter newspapers for people who don’t actually like newspapers, asked two designers to create new uniforms for the U. of Illinois and Northwestern. Garish results here (with thanks to Bennett Terwilliger). … Scuttlebutt over on the Chris Creamer board is that the Cubs will scrap their road cap next season. … Carson Palmer’s brother, Jordan, played for the Bengals last night. No initial, though (with thanks to Ross Hazlett). … More Browns training camp observations from Brendan Yarian: Kevin Kasper has been wearing white leggings; Chris Griffin is the latest player to wear shorts over his pants (No. 53, on the left); and Syndric Steptoe (one of the greatest names ever, no?) is wearing NFL logo socks. … Several readers noted that Baylor had two NOBs with Roman numerals last night (thanks to Dana Czerwinski for the screen grabs). … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Hofstra’s helmets have changed from white with a lion logo to blue with a stylized “H” logo. … Big congrats to longtime reader A.J. Zydzik, who got hitched a few weeks ago but still found to create new uniforms for his kickball team: “We were kind of short on ideas, but since I’m a huge soccer fan and like the Dutch national team, and since our team colors are orange and (sorry, it wasn’t my choice) purple, I submitted the idea to base our jerseys on theirs. Our team name is the Vermicious Kenids (some sort of Willa Wonka reference, also not my pick), so instead of the Dutch lion on the crest with KNVB underneath it, we have an Oompa Loompa head with VK underneath. Our socks are also overly purple (sorry again!), and we have a vertical VK on each side of each leg.” Am I the only one who thinks that uni looks like it was pieced together from a Clemson surplus sale? … Turns out the motel where I stayed in Portland is part of a neon-signage strip that may be headed for historic-preservation status (big thanks to Clark Farrand). … The U.S. military is trying to borrow NFL-style helmet technology to reduce concussions (with thanks to James Yeh). … Sigh.

Holiday Schedule: Bryan will handle the weekend and Laborious Day. I’ll be back on Tuesday. See you then.

 

185 comments to ‘Are you familiar with alcohol?’: A Visit with Scott Little

  • Chad | August 29, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    knicks jacket link is the knights sleeve patch

  • Dan the Goalie | August 29, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    “As for the one photo that caught my eye, it’s this one. Note the nose guard being worn by the Chiefs player — instead of an open U shape, as was common in that era, the K.C. player has a closed U. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.”

    That’s the Dungard aluminum U bar, you can see it at Helmethut.com. Many of the Chiefs of that era wore some of the various Dungard aluminum face masks (think Willie Lanier).

  • Paul Lukas | August 29, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    [quote comment=”286647″]knicks jacket link is the knights sleeve patch[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed.

  • Jamie | August 29, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    The link to the reversible knicks jacket goes to the knights’ sleeve patch again.

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    University of Detroit Mercy (UDM) has changed its athletics logo from this to this.

    Wow, my first ever ticker mention, I feel privlidged :)

  • Peter Wunsch | August 29, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Today’s NY Times has an article about a fellow who, being forced to buy a personal seat license, is willing to sell the naming rights to his seat. Hysterical.

  • Jason Gomez | August 29, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Ok, I was saddened to learn about the sale of the naming rights to Arrowhead Stadium. Its well and good that they will keep Arrowhead in the title but come on, its one of the finest stadiums to watch a game and there is so much history behind it. As a Life long Chiefs fan I am dissapointed frustrated and pissed off. I had just read this article over on KCStar.com and now its on here. I dont know what to think. Just a sad day for KC football.

  • Geeman | August 29, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    Does anyone know if Ga. Tech. has artificial turf again? It looked that way last night on the ESPN highlights.

    I like the new gold pants (I wish Wake Forest and Notre Dame would go back to that color), but not so big on wearing white at home. Wear gold or navy blue and save the white for the road.

  • MikeB | August 29, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    That Thome pic actually appears to be from the ’97 World Series in Florida. Thome’s birthday is in August and the entire team DID wear the high-cuffs to honor him on that day, with the Tribe blowing out the Angels 10-4. With baseball players being the superstitious type that they are, that lopsided win kept everyone wearing the high cuffs throughout the rest of their season and postseason run.

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    My fantasy hockey team’s name is the Waterford Drunken Sailors, and for the picture of my jersey I found a pic of a 1903 Montreal Wanderers jersey. Beautiful jersey, also get to use the ‘W’ for Waterford. Too bad no other person in the league will have a clue, but I enjoy looking at it :)

    http://www.sears.ca/...

  • Stuby | August 29, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    My pet peeve (one of them, anyway) is the Roman numeral on the jersey. The III or the IV refers to the first name not the last name. Acie Law IV was the the fourth Acie, not the fourth Law. It drives me crazy when someone refers to “Griffey, Jr.”

  • BJ | August 29, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    I was watching the OSU – Stanford game last night and both Jacquizz and James Rodgers (brothers on the OSU squad) were wearing their unis with only Last name, no initial. Can’t find pics…

  • duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”286657″]My pet peeve (one of them, anyway) is the Roman numeral on the jersey. The III or the IV refers to the first name not the last name. Acie Law IV was the the fourth Acie, not the fourth Law. It drives me crazy when someone refers to “Griffey, Jr.”[/quote]

    Good point, that’s never even crossed my mind. Granted I think it always pretty ridiculous for someone whose father wasn’t also a big name in the sport to use it, mainly because it’s used to differentiate between people, and if we couldn’t care less who your father is, why use it? It always made sense to hear Griffey, Jr though, until now.

  • Travis | August 29, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    Is that Manny in the bottom-right corner of the Thome photo? Practically unrecognizable with short hair and non-pajama pants!

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”286659″][quote comment=”286657″]My pet peeve (one of them, anyway) is the Roman numeral on the jersey. The III or the IV refers to the first name not the last name. Acie Law IV was the the fourth Acie, not the fourth Law. It drives me crazy when someone refers to “Griffey, Jr.”[/quote]

    Good point, that’s never even crossed my mind. Granted I think it always pretty ridiculous for someone whose father wasn’t also a big name in the sport to use it, mainly because it’s used to differentiate between people, and if we couldn’t care less who your father is, why use it? It always made sense to hear Griffey, Jr though, until now.[/quote]

    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?

  • Greg V. | August 29, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    Two things (neither of which I can find pictures of)…

    Is that a new facemask Redskins’ TE Chris Cooley was wearing last night? I’ve never seen that design before.

    Bengals TE Nate Lawrie had the collar of his jersey tear early in last night’s game. He had it repaired after halftime. They were wearing the white jerseys but the repair was done with thick black thread. Looked very Frankensteinish.

  • Dustin | August 29, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”286661″]
    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]
    I have a friend who is a Junior, and his son is a “III” (does that make my friend now a “II”) but they all have the exact names. I think that’s why our president isn’t a Junior because his old man had different middle names.

    Also, Paul, AWESOME post today – I could talk bowling for hours on end (especially if I had more knowledge of the behind the scenes operation).

  • Stuby | August 29, 2008 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”286663″][quote comment=”286661″]
    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]
    I have a friend who is a Junior, and his son is a “III” (does that make my friend now a “II”) but they all have the exact names. I think that’s why our president isn’t a Junior because his old man had different middle names.[/quote]

    I always thought you weren’t supposed to start using the Roman numerals until III anyway. Your friend should probably still be Jr., but I could be wrong about that.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”286661″][quote comment=”286659″][quote comment=”286657″]My pet peeve (one of them, anyway) is the Roman numeral on the jersey. The III or the IV refers to the first name not the last name. Acie Law IV was the the fourth Acie, not the fourth Law. It drives me crazy when someone refers to “Griffey, Jr.”[/quote]

    Good point, that’s never even crossed my mind. Granted I think it always pretty ridiculous for someone whose father wasn’t also a big name in the sport to use it, mainly because it’s used to differentiate between people, and if we couldn’t care less who your father is, why use it? It always made sense to hear Griffey, Jr though, until now.[/quote]

    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]

    No, you’d need to have the same full name (although the customary pattern in your case, I thought, was to use “Junior” instead of “II”, as roman numerals usually indicate non-sequential generations). What he’s saying is that the roman numeral doesn’t attach to the last name (not everyone in the family with that last name uses the numeral), but the first (and by implication the second).

    I believe it’s also customary that Junior only uses Junior until Senior passes away, then he uses the name free and clear. Unless he has some value in the name (I doubt that Ken Griffey, Jr. will ever drop his suffix).

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”286664″][quote comment=”286663″][quote comment=”286661″]
    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]
    I have a friend who is a Junior, and his son is a “III” (does that make my friend now a “II”) but they all have the exact names. I think that’s why our president isn’t a Junior because his old man had different middle names.[/quote]

    I always thought you weren’t supposed to start using the Roman numerals until III anyway. Your friend should probably still be Jr., but I could be wrong about that.[/quote]

    You’re right – George W Bush isn’t officially a Junior (although his family calls him that, to keep their Georges straight) because he lacks one of his father’s middle names.

    As for your friend, that does make sense to me. The son couldn’t be “II” becuase there already was a second _____. He’d have to be _____ III. So in that case there never would be a II.

    But when you skip a generation, say a grandson named after his grandfather, then that’s when you’d have a II in the family.

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”286664″][quote comment=”286663″][quote comment=”286661″]
    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]
    I have a friend who is a Junior, and his son is a “III” (does that make my friend now a “II”) but they all have the exact names. I think that’s why our president isn’t a Junior because his old man had different middle names.[/quote]

    I always thought you weren’t supposed to start using the Roman numerals until III anyway. Your friend should probably still be Jr., but I could be wrong about that.[/quote]

    My dad said he didn’t know if it was supposed to be Jr or II, but he didn’t want people calling me ‘Junior’ growing up, so he made it ‘II’

  • Jordan | August 29, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    Second sighting of Indiana helmet with stripes deep inside of the IU website:

    http://iuhoosiers.cs...

  • chris | August 29, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    can anyone tell me what the deal is with this Canucks logo? It’s a tweaked version of the C Rink logo on their “My Canucks Account” .gif. Could it be something new for this year or just something that I glossed over? Thanks.

  • Daniel | August 29, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    In a perfect postscript to Paul’s college kick-off, the new old Stanford played no-longer nauseating Oregon State last night.
    Nice:
    http://tinyurl.com/6...

    And yes, S. Steptoe is going to go some places!

  • u2-horn | August 29, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”286662″]
    Is that a new facemask Redskins’ TE Chris Cooley was wearing last night? I’ve never seen that design before.
    [/quote]
    He wore this last year:

    http://cache.daylife...

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | August 29, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    AWWWWWWWW MAN! My man Scott Little “GETS IT”. I’m assuming he resides in a undisclosed location. He’s got Nike Air Stabs, Vandals, Dunks, Delta Forces, Air Jordan III’s, Air Max 95’s, Shox BB4’s Tailwinds, Spiridons and some of those look like original releases…..drooling. That Starter collection looks like something to die for….I’m definitely hitting up the Thrift stores immediately….as a matter of fact I’m out the door NOW!

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | August 29, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    R.I.P. Arrow Head Stadium….(Playing Taps)

  • Ricko | August 29, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”286670″]In a perfect postscript to Paul’s college kick-off, the new old Stanford played no-longer nauseating Oregon State last night.
    Nice:
    http://tinyurl.com/6...

    And yes, S. Steptoe is going to go some places![/quote]

    Yup. Stanford nicely old-school. Nice to have some teams gaudy, some teams simple. “Uniformity” doesn’t have to mean every team dresses in the same style. Some white shoes, some black shoes. Some black socks, some white socks. God, I’m pretty sure, didn’t made black football shoes the 11th commandment.

    Probably going to Minnesota State Fair today. Only Texas’ is larger, I believe. Who-hoo, mini-donuts and cheese curds, here I come.

    (Don’t wanna start another “great names” orgy, but always kinda liked Sonny Sixkiller as a football name. And, of course, Fair Hooker. Jubilee Dunbar wasn’t bad, either. Or Happy Dix, Brown Marks and Wimpy Winther.)

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”286669″]can anyone tell me what the deal is with this Canucks logo? It’s a tweaked version of the C Rink logo on their “My Canucks Account” .gif. Could it be something new for this year or just something that I glossed over? Thanks.[/quote]

    It’s their secondary logo. They wear it as a patch on their shoulders.

    http://canucks.nhl.c...

    Flip thorugh gallery and you can see it on Luongo.

  • Stephen | August 29, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”286667″][quote comment=”286664″][quote comment=”286663″][quote comment=”286661″]
    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]
    I have a friend who is a Junior, and his son is a “III” (does that make my friend now a “II”) but they all have the exact names. I think that’s why our president isn’t a Junior because his old man had different middle names.[/quote]

    I always thought you weren’t supposed to start using the Roman numerals until III anyway. Your friend should probably still be Jr., but I could be wrong about that.[/quote]

    My dad said he didn’t know if it was supposed to be Jr or II, but he didn’t want people calling me ‘Junior’ growing up, so he made it ‘II'[/quote]

    My brother is a II because my parents didn’t like “Junior.” As far as I know, it is simply family preference.

    ~E~

  • Jet | August 29, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”286675″][quote comment=”286669″]can anyone tell me what the deal is with this Canucks logo? It’s a tweaked version of the C Rink logo on their “My Canucks Account” .gif. Could it be something new for this year or just something that I glossed over? Thanks.[/quote]

    It’s their secondary logo. They wear it as a patch on their shoulders.

    http://canucks.nhl.c...

    Flip thorugh gallery and you can see it on Luongo.[/quote]

    Jim, I think Chris was referring to the logo having been slightly changed from the original version that appeared on the Canucks jerseys when they entered the league in 70-71. It was their main logo then and there have been some slight modifications, and I think Chris is just wondering as I am, “when did this happen?”

    -Jet

  • Jet | August 29, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    Great edition today, thanks for your contributions, Scott. Love that old football sweater!!

    -Jet

  • Ricko | August 29, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    About names. So much magic in them. As one who’s old enough to remember, one of the things the early AFL (not Arena, I’m talkin’ REALLY old) had going for it was the great new player names: Ceasar Belzer, Solomon Brannon, Jack Larschied and Jim “Jetstream” Smith, Lionel Taylor, Lance Alworth, Hezekiah Braxton III, Elbert Dubenion, Buck Buchanan, Bobby Bell, Billy Cannon, Abner Haynes, Cotton Davidson, Geno Cappelletti, Gene Mingo, Sherrill Headrick, Hogan Wharton…

    Damn, there were so many of them, while the NFL seemed to have a lotta guys named Andy and Charlie and Bobby. Well, “Unitas” and “Ringo” were pretty cool, yes…but, aw, hell, you know what I mean.

  • duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”286670″]In a perfect postscript to Paul’s college kick-off, the new old Stanford played no-longer nauseating Oregon State last night.
    Nice:
    http://tinyurl.com/6...

    And yes, S. Steptoe is going to go some places![/quote]

    Although the Oregon St unis are a huge upgrade from last year, they’re still a little weird to me. I’d like to see them with the orange and black on the unis switched maybe, or with black pants, I dunno. I love the number font though, love it, never even noticed it before, I was too distracted by the bras I guess. Story of my life.

  • DW | August 29, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    Nice placement of the Hofstra helmet news next to news of the Dutch.
    Hofstra will always be the Flying Dutchmen.
    None of this p-c Pride crap.

  • duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”286676″][quote comment=”286667″][quote comment=”286664″][quote comment=”286663″][quote comment=”286661″]
    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]
    I have a friend who is a Junior, and his son is a “III” (does that make my friend now a “II”) but they all have the exact names. I think that’s why our president isn’t a Junior because his old man had different middle names.[/quote]

    I always thought you weren’t supposed to start using the Roman numerals until III anyway. Your friend should probably still be Jr., but I could be wrong about that.[/quote]

    My dad said he didn’t know if it was supposed to be Jr or II, but he didn’t want people calling me ‘Junior’ growing up, so he made it ‘II'[/quote]

    My brother is a II because my parents didn’t like “Junior.” As far as I know, it is simply family preference.

    ~E~[/quote]

    I’ve never heard anyone outside of old royalty or a Pope using “II” before. I honestly think it sounds a little pompous. Please don’t take offense to that. I think the idea of it sounds pompous, not you. Like somebody wanting to go to Duke for college, they might very well have a good reason to go there, but taken at face value it sounds pompous. Ok, I’m gonna shut up and talk about unis again.

  • David | August 29, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”286654″]Does anyone know if Ga. Tech. has artificial turf again? It looked that way last night on the ESPN highlights.

    I like the new gold pants (I wish Wake Forest and Notre Dame would go back to that color), but not so big on wearing white at home. Wear gold or navy blue and save the white for the road.[/quote]

    I like them wearing white at home. GT’s colors are white and gold, quoted in the fight song as such (rather than gold and white), so white is “traditionally” the primary color in the scheme and therefore makes sense being the home jersey color to me.

  • Robert | August 29, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”286661″][quote comment=”286659″][quote comment=”286657″]My pet peeve (one of them, anyway) is the Roman numeral on the jersey. The III or the IV refers to the first name not the last name. Acie Law IV was the the fourth Acie, not the fourth Law. It drives me crazy when someone refers to “Griffey, Jr.”[/quote]

    Good point, that’s never even crossed my mind. Granted I think it always pretty ridiculous for someone whose father wasn’t also a big name in the sport to use it, mainly because it’s used to differentiate between people, and if we couldn’t care less who your father is, why use it? It always made sense to hear Griffey, Jr though, until now.[/quote]

    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]

    Good point. My dad and I have the same first and last names, but different middle names, so I am not a Junior or II. Right?

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”286677″][quote comment=”286675″][quote comment=”286669″]can anyone tell me what the deal is with this Canucks logo? It’s a tweaked version of the C Rink logo on their “My Canucks Account” .gif. Could it be something new for this year or just something that I glossed over? Thanks.[/quote]

    It’s their secondary logo. They wear it as a patch on their shoulders.

    http://canucks.nhl.c...

    Flip thorugh gallery and you can see it on Luongo.[/quote]

    Jim, I think Chris was referring to the logo having been slightly changed from the original version that appeared on the Canucks jerseys when they entered the league in 70-71. It was their main logo then and there have been some slight modifications, and I think Chris is just wondering as I am, “when did this happen?”

    -Jet[/quote]

    He mentioned it was a tweaked logo in his post. He asked if it was new for this year, I was informing him that it was used last year as a shoulder patch. They started using it as a shoulder patch last year with the start of the RBK unis.

  • Anthony Verna | August 29, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”286675″][quote comment=”286669″]can anyone tell me what the deal is with this Canucks logo? It’s a tweaked version of the C Rink logo on their “My Canucks Account” .gif. Could it be something new for this year or just something that I glossed over? Thanks.[/quote]

    It’s their secondary logo. They wear it as a patch on their shoulders.

    http://canucks.nhl.c...

    Flip thorugh gallery and you can see it on Luongo.[/quote]

    But it’s different. The logo pointed to in the account page has a stick that points down. The logo on the patch has a stick that’s stright.

  • Welks | August 29, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    Cool gallery of ugly NHL masks

    http://www.faceoff.c...

  • Greg V. | August 29, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”286671″][quote comment=”286662″]
    Is that a new facemask Redskins’ TE Chris Cooley was wearing last night? I’ve never seen that design before.
    [/quote]
    He wore this last year:

    http://cache.daylife...

    That’s not the one from last night.

  • John T | August 29, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    Want to ‘design’ (decorate) a pair of nikes to be used by a manchester utd or arsenal player during their match on Nov. 8th, go here.
    Some intersting ‘designs’ here
    http://nikeid.nike.c...

  • Cosmo | August 29, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    That Arrowhead Stadium naming rights thing makes me really sad as a Chiefs fan. I mean sadder than their constant losing.

  • Duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”286690″]That Arrowhead Stadium naming rights thing makes me really sad as a Chiefs fan. I mean sadder than their constant losing.[/quote]

    I don’t know why more teams don’t go the route of selling naming rights to parts of the stadium the way the Packers did at Lambeau. Every entrance has a sponser and from that they got more than enough money and yet they were able to retain the Lambeau name, knock on wood.

  • Mark K | August 29, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    Buffalo had their conference patches on their shoulder last night- probably not enough room with the stupid white piping to put it in a normal location.

    They also have no NOB.

    http://media.buffalo...

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”286686″][quote comment=”286675″][quote comment=”286669″]can anyone tell me what the deal is with this Canucks logo? It’s a tweaked version of the C Rink logo on their “My Canucks Account” .gif. Could it be something new for this year or just something that I glossed over? Thanks.[/quote]

    It’s their secondary logo. They wear it as a patch on their shoulders.

    http://canucks.nhl.c...

    Flip thorugh gallery and you can see it on Luongo.[/quote]

    But it’s different. The logo pointed to in the account page has a stick that points down. The logo on the patch has a stick that’s stright.[/quote]

    The one on the patch does point down, it’s just hard to see in action shots.

    http://bp3.blogger.c...

  • Juan Grande | August 29, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”286684″][quote comment=”286661″][quote comment=”286659″][quote comment=”286657″]My pet peeve (one of them, anyway) is the Roman numeral on the jersey. The III or the IV refers to the first name not the last name. Acie Law IV was the the fourth Acie, not the fourth Law. It drives me crazy when someone refers to “Griffey, Jr.”[/quote]

    Good point, that’s never even crossed my mind. Granted I think it always pretty ridiculous for someone whose father wasn’t also a big name in the sport to use it, mainly because it’s used to differentiate between people, and if we couldn’t care less who your father is, why use it? It always made sense to hear Griffey, Jr though, until now.[/quote]

    I’m a “II” and I thought it was becuase my dad and I have the exact same name, middle name and all. So our first and last name could be the same with a DIFFERENT middle name and i’d still be a “II”?[/quote]

    Good point. My dad and I have the same first and last names, but different middle names, so I am not a Junior or II. Right?[/quote]

    I’m a III. The rule for Junior or II is this:

    Junior: indentical first and middle name as father, in direct bloodline.

    II: indentical name of a family member (uncle, cousin, etc) that is not a direct bloodline.

    I have a good friend who was named for his father’s brother who died in Vietnam at age 19. My friend’s uncle was Samuel Franklin Teague, his father is Thomas Daniel Teague, friend is Samuel Franklin Teague II.

    Legally (my fiancee is an attorney; she handles wills and that kind of stuff. She told me me this is how it works) that is the difference between II and Junior. Whether or not people follow the “rules” is a whole different can of worms. Just to make things more interesting, once you name your son as “junior” then the father becomes “senior” automatically. Usually nobody bothers with it until a III shows up.

    I sign everything with “III”. My father signs everything with “Jr.” My grandfather signed all legal documents with “Sr.” but otherwise didn’t bother on everyday stuff.

    Other than that, the only time you see “II” is on the end of the Pope, a king, or dictator.

  • Chris in Nashville | August 29, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    I would like to nominate Scott Little to Mt Watch-More joining the heads of Ricko (Specialty – Old Stuff), Teebz (Hockey), Matt Powers (Shoes), Minna (Black), and LI Phil (Sarcasm). I’m just not sure what Scott’s specialty would be. He’s like a player who you know is great, you’re just not sure why.

  • Juan Grande | August 29, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”286691″][quote comment=”286690″]That Arrowhead Stadium naming rights thing makes me really sad as a Chiefs fan. I mean sadder than their constant losing.[/quote]

    I don’t know why more teams don’t go the route of selling naming rights to parts of the stadium the way the Packers did at Lambeau. Every entrance has a sponser and from that they got more than enough money and yet they were able to retain the Lambeau name, knock on wood.[/quote]

    They did that with the Browns Stadium in Cleveland too. I think that is a much better system but if I’m spending millions and millions of dollars then I want nationwide broadcasts caling out my name: “Invesco Field”, “3Com Park”, etc. not “the pets.com entrance on the south end of the field”.

    I say we pitch in a few bucks and get Arrowhead renamed UNIWATCH Stadium!

  • Jeff I | August 29, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”286681″]Nice placement of the Hofstra helmet news next to news of the Dutch.
    Hofstra will always be the Flying Dutchmen.
    None of this p-c Pride crap.[/quote]
    amen

  • Andy11 | August 29, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    That’s quite a collection.
    Did you ask Scott why he collects all that?
    Fun? Investment? Empty room(s) that needed to be filled with something, so why not thrift-store sports apparel?

  • interlockingtc | August 29, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    If the old Brunswick masking units still work (or can at least be repaired at a reasonable cost) they must return.

    And, yes, that old Oregon football jersey is just about as glorious as a sports jersey can be. Man.

  • Ramsay Pants | August 29, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    Looks like Scott is the proud owner of a 1938 Oregon jersey. If you search around on the site you can see that the switched from the stripes to satin in 38.

    btw…
    Bitchin’ find!

    http://boundless.uor...

  • Teebz | August 29, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”286695″]I would like to nominate Scott Little to Mt Watch-More joining the heads of Ricko (Specialty – Old Stuff), Teebz (Hockey), Matt Powers (Shoes), Minna (Black), and LI Phil (Sarcasm). I’m just not sure what Scott’s specialty would be. He’s like a player who you know is great, you’re just not sure why.[/quote]

    I think Scott should go under the category of “Phenomenal Warehousing”. Fabulous collection of jersey nostalgia, and a cornucopia of history right there.

    Paul/Gammage, how come you didn’t document any of the hockey stuff? >:o|

    Kidding… all is good. ;o)

  • LarenR | August 29, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”286690″]That Arrowhead Stadium naming rights thing makes me really sad as a Chiefs fan. I mean sadder than their constant losing.[/quote]

    Of course the real uni-related question is, if the Chiefs no longer play at Arrowhead, will they have to scrap the helmet logo?

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”286701″][quote comment=”286695″]I would like to nominate Scott Little to Mt Watch-More joining the heads of Ricko (Specialty – Old Stuff), Teebz (Hockey), Matt Powers (Shoes), Minna (Black), and LI Phil (Sarcasm). I’m just not sure what Scott’s specialty would be. He’s like a player who you know is great, you’re just not sure why.[/quote]

    I think Scott should go under the category of “Phenomenal Warehousing”. Fabulous collection of jersey nostalgia, and a cornucopia of history right there.

    Paul/Gammage, how come you didn’t document any of the hockey stuff? >:o|

    Kidding… all is good. ;o)[/quote]

    lol that’s what i thought too Teebz, linked to baseball jerseys, starter jackets, and sneakers… SKIPPED RIGHT OVER hockey jerseys. lol too bad.

  • Ramsay Pants | August 29, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    It also seems they had multiple jersey colors 70 years ago too. Check out 23 compared to the rest. Wonder what this is all about??

    Maybe offense & defense or under and upper class.
    Strange
    http://boundless.uor...

  • Stan aka The Took | August 29, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    I’ve ALWAYS wanted to see how it looks behind the pin machine at an alley. Thanks Paul.

    Scott Little kind of reminds me of the Met’s greatest prospect ever Sid Finch.

  • Jason Gomez | August 29, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    That brings up a good point although Arrowhead will still be in the name. I love the chiefs dearly but what if they dropped the arrowhead on the helmet and went with the same KC just without the arrow? I know i will probably be blasted for it. In a way I am proud that their have not been any alternate jerseys or tweeks. I still hate the red pants but oh well. I am surprised that they havent gone to putting chiefs on their jerseys like everyother team, I am proud of them.

  • Andy11 | August 29, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”286705″]I’ve ALWAYS wanted to see how it looks behind the pin machine at an alley. Thanks Paul.

    Scott Little kind of reminds me of the Met’s greatest prospect ever Sid Finch.[/quote]
    Me too! I always had a hunch it wasn’t monkeys, and now I know.

  • Alex | August 29, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”286651″]University of Detroit Mercy (UDM) has changed its athletics logo from this to this.

    Wow, my first ever ticker mention, I feel privlidged :)[/quote]

    I’m applying to Detroit Mercy’s dental school, but man, that logo switch is not settling well.

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”286708″][quote comment=”286651″]University of Detroit Mercy (UDM) has changed its athletics logo from this to this.

    Wow, my first ever ticker mention, I feel privlidged :)[/quote]

    I’m applying to Detroit Mercy’s dental school, but man, that logo switch is not settling well.[/quote]

    Yes, very unplesant. Good luck in dental school. I hear it’s a great place to get that degree.

  • Dustin | August 29, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”286691″]
    I don’t know why more teams don’t go the route of selling naming rights to parts of the stadium the way the Packers did at Lambeau. Every entrance has a sponser and from that they got more than enough money and yet they were able to retain the Lambeau name, knock on wood.[/quote]
    Yes, I believe that Cleveland did that before Green Bay. In Green Bay, it’s mainly localish type of companies, or at least national companies with a nearby base (other than Verizon). I believe the tickets say which gate to enter, and the most major advertisers are by the more photogenic parts of the stadium, such as the Miller Brewing Company entrance by the statues of Earl Lambeau and Vince Lombardi.

    Either way, it’s a sad story that something as storied as Arrowhead Stadium will be something else in the near future, but it can’t be any worse than the Jobing.com Arena in Phoenix (are there any other website arena/stadium names out there that include the .com?).

  • smitty | August 29, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    Paul, c’mon! For a detail-oriented guy such as yourself, I was surprised to see you call it Washington STATE. There is no such place. It’s Washington. Period. Keep screwing that up and you’ll start getting UW Husky purple stuff in the mail!

  • JKim | August 29, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    John McCain was just presented with a hockey sweater at the announcement of his VP. No screenshots but shown on CNN at around 12:55ish? Anyone?

  • Skycat | August 29, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”286706″]That brings up a good point although Arrowhead will still be in the name. I love the chiefs dearly but what if they dropped the arrowhead on the helmet and went with the same KC just without the arrow? I know i will probably be blasted for it. In a way I am proud that their have not been any alternate jerseys or tweeks. I still hate the red pants but oh well. I am surprised that they havent gone to putting chiefs on their jerseys like everyother team, I am proud of them.[/quote]
    The one thing that has always bugged me about the Chiefs’ helmets is that they fail to incorporate the yellow trim that is used in their uniforms. As a result, the effect appears incongruous. They should either eliminate the yellow trim (as in the original design) or add some yellow to the helmet.

  • Stuby | August 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”286711″]What’s with the difference in some of the Bills’ players jerseys??[/quote]

    #13 has his nameplate higher than the others and is the one guy who should have it lower because of his hair.

  • timmy b | August 29, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”286679″]About names. So much magic in them. As one who’s old enough to remember, one of the things the early AFL (not Arena, I’m talkin’ REALLY old) had going for it was the great new player names: Ceasar Belzer, Solomon Brannon, Jack Larschied and Jim “Jetstream” Smith, Lionel Taylor, Lance Alworth, Hezekiah Braxton III, Elbert Dubenion, Buck Buchanan, Bobby Bell, Billy Cannon, Abner Haynes, Cotton Davidson, Geno Cappelletti, Gene Mingo, Sherrill Headrick, Hogan Wharton…

    Damn, there were so many of them, while the NFL seemed to have a lotta guys named Andy and Charlie and Bobby. Well, “Unitas” and “Ringo” were pretty cool, yes…but, aw, hell, you know what I mean.[/quote]

    Ricko,

    Those names are great and wondrous for sure. However, one name from NASCAR outdoes all of them.

    The one and only Dick Trickle.

  • Mike N. | August 29, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”286654″]Does anyone know if Ga. Tech. has artificial turf again? It looked that way last night on the ESPN highlights.

    I like the new gold pants (I wish Wake Forest and Notre Dame would go back to that color), but not so big on wearing white at home. Wear gold or navy blue and save the white for the road.[/quote]

    Real grass still prevails over the fake stuff @ Bobby Dodd Stadium at HISTORIC Grant Field. :)

  • Jason Gomez | August 29, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”286714″][quote comment=”286706″]That brings up a good point although Arrowhead will still be in the name. I love the chiefs dearly but what if they dropped the arrowhead on the helmet and went with the same KC just without the arrow? I know i will probably be blasted for it. In a way I am proud that their have not been any alternate jerseys or tweeks. I still hate the red pants but oh well. I am surprised that they havent gone to putting chiefs on their jerseys like everyother team, I am proud of them.[/quote]
    The one thing that has always bugged me about the Chiefs’ helmets is that they fail to incorporate the yellow trim that is used in their uniforms. As a result, the effect appears incongruous. They should either eliminate the yellow trim (as in the original design) or add some yellow to the helmet.[/quote]

    I agree that the yellow is under used but thank god it is. I would like to see them drop the yellow altogther. The yellow really serves no purpose and I dont like the yellow on the pants either.

  • Michael | August 29, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    “although it’s a shame that the gorgeous old Brunswick masking units have been covered by this new-school nonsense.”

    I don’t understand why so many bowling centers (especially the older ones”) insist on getting rid of those wonderful masking units.

    For those interested, check out this site (click on Brunswick or AMF)
    http://ap-arms.s12.x...

  • Tim F. | August 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    I need to place an order for my (now official) Chad Ocho Cinco jersey.

    http://www.sportingn...

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”286699″]And, yes, that old Oregon football jersey is just about as glorious as a sports jersey can be. Man.[/quote]

    Sure is. It’s beautiful.

    Wonder how close those colors are to the green and gold used by the Packers about that time.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 1:37 pm |

    And, just since we’re on the subject, there’s a very famous example of the Sr/Jr/III dynamic in the news….

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 29, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”286674″][quote comment=”286670″]In a perfect postscript to Paul’s college kick-off, the new old Stanford played no-longer nauseating Oregon State last night.
    Nice:
    http://tinyurl.com/6...

    And yes, S. Steptoe is going to go some places![/quote]

    Yup. Stanford nicely old-school. Nice to have some teams gaudy, some teams simple. “Uniformity” doesn’t have to mean every team dresses in the same style. Some white shoes, some black shoes. Some black socks, some white socks. God, I’m pretty sure, didn’t made black football shoes the 11th commandment.[quote]

    Nicely old school – but I kind of thought the jerseys were a tad plain – no markings at all! In fact the same jersey as Baylor (no tv numbers – although Baylor had an intersting shoulder BU).

    Does anyone actually have a breakdown of which schools have which contracts and which srtyle of jersy they wear? Or are there just too damn many possibilities?

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”286656″]My fantasy hockey team’s name is the Waterford Drunken Sailors, and for the picture of my jersey I found a pic of a 1903 Montreal Wanderers jersey. Beautiful jersey, also get to use the ‘W’ for Waterford. Too bad no other person in the league will have a clue, but I enjoy looking at it :)

    http://www.sears.ca/...

    That is gorgeous – it’d look great on the University of Wisconsin hockey team.

  • Tony | August 29, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    Chad Johnson officially changed his last name to Ocho Cinco. Can the NFL stop him from putting that on the jersey?

    http://www.faniq.com...

  • Stuby | August 29, 2008 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”286724″][quote comment=”286656″]My fantasy hockey team’s name is the Waterford Drunken Sailors, and for the picture of my jersey I found a pic of a 1903 Montreal Wanderers jersey. Beautiful jersey, also get to use the ‘W’ for Waterford. Too bad no other person in the league will have a clue, but I enjoy looking at it :)

    http://www.sears.ca/...

    That is gorgeous – it’d look great on the University of Wisconsin hockey team.[/quote]
    Wow, Canadian Sears has some really cool stuff. Who knew?
    http://www.sears.ca/...

  • marc | August 29, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”286660″]Is that Manny in the bottom-right corner of the Thome photo? Practically unrecognizable with short hair and non-pajama pants![/quote]

    it sure is! there’s also orel hershiser in the back as well as brian giles on the left, omar vizquel in the center, charlie manuel to the left and sandy alomar, jr. (sandy jr., not alomar jr.). wow, what a team that was. practically an all-star team in itself! i still cringe every time i think of the ’97 WS.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”286725″]Chad Johnson officially changed his last name to Ocho Cinco. Can the NFL stop him from putting that on the jersey?

    http://www.faniq.com...

    Okay, they can trade him to the Rams now. :D

  • marc | August 29, 2008 at 1:52 pm |

    forgot to mention what a great post today’s was, paul (and scott!). thanks!

  • Duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”286714″][quote comment=”286706″]That brings up a good point although Arrowhead will still be in the name. I love the chiefs dearly but what if they dropped the arrowhead on the helmet and went with the same KC just without the arrow? I know i will probably be blasted for it. In a way I am proud that their have not been any alternate jerseys or tweeks. I still hate the red pants but oh well. I am surprised that they havent gone to putting chiefs on their jerseys like everyother team, I am proud of them.[/quote]
    The one thing that has always bugged me about the Chiefs’ helmets is that they fail to incorporate the yellow trim that is used in their uniforms. As a result, the effect appears incongruous. They should either eliminate the yellow trim (as in the original design) or add some yellow to the helmet.[/quote]

    I agree, they really need a helemt stripe, just mimic the pants and be done with it. I do however dislike the sleeve stripe, much like Miami, it’s just too small, I’d break it up like the bears and widen it a bit like the Packers, browns etc. Oh, and I like the red pants, it gives them a lot of balance, a good look IMO.

  • Scott | August 29, 2008 at 2:00 pm |

    It’s too bad Chad Johnson isn’t smart enough to realize “ocho cinco” actually reads “eight five,” instead of eighty five … which would actually be “ochenta y cinco.”

    Whatever, he’s a goof.

  • Andy Bowen | August 29, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through!

  • Bryan | August 29, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”286713″]John McCain was just presented with a hockey sweater at the announcement of his VP. No screenshots but shown on CNN at around 12:55ish? Anyone?[/quote]
    Saw that as well. Looked like a Columbus Blue Jackets jersey.

  • Geeman | August 29, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”286717″][quote comment=”286654″]Does anyone know if Ga. Tech. has artificial turf again? It looked that way last night on the ESPN highlights.

    I like the new gold pants (I wish Wake Forest and Notre Dame would go back to that color), but not so big on wearing white at home. Wear gold or navy blue and save the white for the road.[/quote]

    Real grass still prevails over the fake stuff @ Bobby Dodd Stadium at HISTORIC Grant Field. :)[/quote]

    Thanks, Mike. It just looked different on TV. The grass at South Carolina looked great last night, by the way. A real Bermuda.

  • Jay | August 29, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”286733″][quote comment=”286713″]John McCain was just presented with a hockey sweater at the announcement of his VP. No screenshots but shown on CNN at around 12:55ish? Anyone?[/quote]
    Saw that as well. Looked like a Columbus Blue Jackets jersey.[/quote]

    It was a Dayton Bombers jersey…

    http://www.daytonbom...

  • Matt Takimoto | August 29, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    Shouldn’t the Chiefs at least explore and see if Arrowhead bottled water wants some naming rights action?

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”286736″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.[/quote]

    Not only them, but also Williamsport Area, Wilmington Area and Wissahickon.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”286704″]It also seems they had multiple jersey colors 70 years ago too. Check out 23 compared to the rest. Wonder what this is all about??

    Maybe offense & defense or under and upper class.
    Strange
    http://boundless.uor...

    Also not uncommon to have some players outfitted in old uniforms back then, especially before the season starts (when those pictures are often taken).

  • Duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”286731″]It’s too bad Chad Johnson isn’t smart enough to realize “ocho cinco” actually reads “eight five,” instead of eighty five … which would actually be “ochenta y cinco.”

    Whatever, he’s a goof.[/quote]

    This has been covered before, aparently is “cool” to say 8-5, insted of 85 in some circles. I agree, that it makes him look pretty stupid, and I doubt this story is true. As far as I know you can’t just willy-nilly change your name to whatever you want, it has to be approved by a judge, if I’m not mistaken. And I can’t imagine that this clown could convince any official that he’s serious about it.

    Sincerly,
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock

  • Jim MI | August 29, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”286741″][quote comment=”286731″]It’s too bad Chad Johnson isn’t smart enough to realize “ocho cinco” actually reads “eight five,” instead of eighty five … which would actually be “ochenta y cinco.”

    Whatever, he’s a goof.[/quote]

    This has been covered before, aparently is “cool” to say 8-5, insted of 85 in some circles. I agree, that it makes him look pretty stupid, and I doubt this story is true. As far as I know you can’t just willy-nilly change your name to whatever you want, it has to be approved by a judge, if I’m not mistaken. And I can’t imagine that this clown could convince any official that he’s serious about it.

    Sincerly,
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock[/quote]

    I don’t know, I’ve heard people actually changing their middle names to ‘Danger’.

    Get it?

    Danger is…… oh nevermind.

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    Me too! I always had a hunch it wasn’t monkeys, and now I know.
    Ha! Well-played, Andy11.

    Ricko, Sonny Sixkiller is one of my all-time favorite football names. It’s too bad he couldn’t make it beyond the WFL; the name merits a better legacy.

    I’m also partial, among AFL names, to Wahoo McDaniel, who was allowed to have “Wahoo” only on the back of his jersey. And Billy Joe; while the name is without poetry, that’s his whole name. William Joe.

    When there was talk up here of renaming Lambeau Field, I decided that I would cope by refusing to ever call it by its new name. No one can make you call it We Sold Our Soul Stadium. I urge all Chiefs fans to perpetually refuse to call it anything other than Arrowhead.

  • Jeff P | August 29, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]
    Lots of those teams on the front page random helmet thing should get letters- they aren’t even trying to change it a little, they jsut recolor NFL and college logos…

    I saw a Michigan pattern, Wisconsin Motion W (and not the school you mentioned) Bucs, a recolored panthers logo (NFL), a cardinals one… And I don’t really know football.

  • Tony | August 29, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”286744″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]
    Lots of those teams on the front page random helmet thing should get letters- they aren’t even trying to change it a little, they jsut recolor NFL and college logos…

    I saw a Michigan pattern, Wisconsin Motion W (and not the school you mentioned) Bucs, a recolored panthers logo (NFL), a cardinals one… And I don’t really know football.[/quote]
    There are copyright issues all over this sight. I wonder how accurate all of these designs are

  • Stuby | August 29, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”286739″][quote comment=”286736″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.[/quote]

    Not only them, but also Williamsport Area, Wilmington Area and Wissahickon.[/quote]
    Quite a few ripoffs in there including Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Miami, Iowa, Kansas State and more. And a multitude of the same pawprint logo being used for Huskies, Panthers, Bulldogs, Bears, Bobcats, Cougars, Tigers and Jaguars.

    Kudos to the ones who show some originality in their design.

  • Nick | August 29, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”286648″]”As for the one photo that caught my eye, it’s this one. Note the nose guard being worn by the Chiefs player — instead of an open U shape, as was common in that era, the K.C. player has a closed U. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.”

    That’s the Dungard aluminum U bar, you can see it at Helmethut.com. Many of the Chiefs of that era wore some of the various Dungard aluminum face masks (think Willie Lanier).[/quote]

    It is an original Dungard “U”. I have seen
    them for sale at EBAY and on Helmet Hut’s website, but this photo is the very first evidence that I have ever seen it actually worn at any level.

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    Danger is…… oh nevermind.
    Gotcher back, Jim MI.

    Michael: Dwight, what is your middle name?
    Dwight: Danger …
    Michael: Something with a “K.”
    Jim: It’s Kurt. Wow, I’m so sad that I know that.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.
    Chance, you’re in Wisconsin, right? Did UW crack down on state high schools using the Badgers’ “dynamic W” mark as well? I know Waterford High in this county had the identical mark on their helmets for a few years, and now they don’t.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 29, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    Pretty much every college team I saw last night had some kind of number sticker tribute on their helmets. And at first I thought this was a nicely understated tribute untile I started digging up pictures. Not sure I have ever seen the player number so small. I do like how the NCAA logo is modified.

    I am not at all crazy about the gray facemask – inspired by much earlier designs (along with bringing the white and green stripes back). Throwback is only cool when it looks good…

    Intersting attempt at making a B on this girl’s uni

    And sigh… baylor is still a Nike school. There are at least six logos visible in that picture, with two more implied.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”286748″]Danger is…… oh nevermind.
    Gotcher back, Jim MI.

    Michael: Dwight, what is your middle name?
    Dwight: Danger …
    Michael: Something with a “K.”
    Jim: It’s Kurt. Wow, I’m so sad that I know that.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.
    Chance, you’re in Wisconsin, right? Did UW crack down on state high schools using the Badgers’ “dynamic W” mark as well? I know Waterford High in this county had the identical mark on their helmets for a few years, and now they don’t.[/quote]

    I’m not, actually. Native New Yorker, born here but raised there and back in Gotham for fifteen years now. But it’s my understanding that they object to trademark infringement wherever they find it, even in-state. Pretty sure that intellectual property law doesn’t give them the luxury of selective enforcement.

  • Mark K | August 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    That Indians pic has them in their road grey pants (and they’re obviously not at the Jake) but the jerseys say Indians on them, with white piping. Didn’t the road alternates say Cleveland and have red piping?

  • Dustin | August 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”286725″]Chad Johnson officially changed his last name to Ocho Cinco. Can the NFL stop him from putting that on the jersey?

    http://www.faniq.com...
    [quote comment=”286731″]It’s too bad Chad Johnson isn’t smart enough to realize “ocho cinco” actually reads “eight five,” instead of eighty five … which would actually be “ochenta y cinco.”

    Whatever, he’s a goof.[/quote]
    What’s funny is that it’s on a blog, that links to another blog (written by someone from ESPN), though I don’t see two sources in the blog post from the ESPN writer, other than something from one radio station. CBS, ESPN, Fox and the NFL haven’t posted any information on this as of 1408 CDT, nor the player listings for my fantasy football leagues. I am skeptical at best until I see an authoritative news source reports it.

  • Mark K | August 29, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”286726″][quote comment=”286724″][quote comment=”286656″]My fantasy hockey team’s name is the Waterford Drunken Sailors, and for the picture of my jersey I found a pic of a 1903 Montreal Wanderers jersey. Beautiful jersey, also get to use the ‘W’ for Waterford. Too bad no other person in the league will have a clue, but I enjoy looking at it :)

    http://www.sears.ca/...

    That is gorgeous – it’d look great on the University of Wisconsin hockey team.[/quote]
    Wow, Canadian Sears has some really cool stuff. Who knew?
    http://www.sears.ca/...

    and those prices are in canadian dollars, too!!

    oh wait

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    Pretty sure that intellectual property law doesn’t give them the luxury of selective enforcement.
    Ha! Good point.

    The Packers must have never trademarked their helmet G, then? Seeing as how it turned up later on both the Georgia and Grambling helmets …

  • Nick | August 29, 2008 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”286721″][quote comment=”286699″]And, yes, that old Oregon football jersey is just about as glorious as a sports jersey can be. Man.[/quote]

    Sure is. It’s beautiful.

    Wonder how close those colors are to the green and gold used by the Packers about that time.[/quote]

    The Packers back then wore Navy and Yellow Gold. They switched to Green & Gold sometime in the 1950’s, I am sure some of the real Packer fans on this site would know exactly when.

    Interesting note.

    The 1960 NFL Chamionship Game – Packers vs. Eagles – has the highlight film in color. When you look at the Packers sidelines, you see something weird but can’t quite figure it out. After watching the highlights 20 times over the years I finally realize what it is …..

    The Championship Game was played in freezing cold, and all of the Packers’ cold weather capes and coats are all colored Navy Blue and Gold, while the Packers’ unis are Green and Gold.

    They were using the older vintage cold weather gear years after transitioning to Green and Gold.

    How long would it take the current NFL uni police to screachingly stop such a thing today?

    I was at the Saints’ preseason game last night and the uni police were patrolling the teams’ benches and instructing players on socks and tucked in shorts.

    It’s not called the No Fun League for nuthin …

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”286754″]Pretty sure that intellectual property law doesn’t give them the luxury of selective enforcement.
    Ha! Good point.

    The Packers must have never trademarked their helmet G, then? Seeing as how it turned up later on both the Georgia and Grambling helmets …[/quote]

    On the contrary, the Packers license their logo to both Georgia and Grambling.

  • Matt | August 29, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    I’m a big fan of this helmets web site. It looks like the guy has worked very hard to accurately include as many helmets as possible.

    Also, I’m a much bigger fan of the newly-branded “I-State” uniforms after seeing them in action last night.

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    On the contrary, the Packers license their logo to both Georgia and Grambling.
    Ah. I picked the right place to ask the question, then! Thanks.

    After watching the trailer at this link, I’m optimistic that the Ernie Davis movie won’t stink:

    https://www.gridiron...

  • Mr. Met | August 29, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”286741″][quote comment=”286731″]It’s too bad Chad Johnson isn’t smart enough to realize “ocho cinco” actually reads “eight five,” instead of eighty five … which would actually be “ochenta y cinco.”

    Whatever, he’s a goof.[/quote]

    This has been covered before, aparently is “cool” to say 8-5, insted of 85 in some circles. I agree, that it makes him look pretty stupid, and I doubt this story is true. As far as I know you can’t just willy-nilly change your name to whatever you want, it has to be approved by a judge, if I’m not mistaken. And I can’t imagine that this clown could convince any official that he’s serious about it.

    Sincerly,
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock[/quote]

    Maybe you’re thinking of parents’ attempts to name their kid something outrageous? I’ve heard judges deny parents requests to name their kids something outrageous, but I’ve never seen a judge deny an adult’s request to change his name to something outrageous. Example: anyone who watched wrestling back in the day, you guys remember that guy The Ultimate Warrior? His name was Jim Hellwig, yet he legally changed his name to Warrior. I would think that’s just as outrageous a “Ocho Cinco”, and yet no judge told him he couldn’t do it.

    Maybe if an adult tried to name himself after something that is trademarked and/or copyrighted? But “Ocho Cinco” wouldn’t fall under that category.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”286755″][quote comment=”286721″][quote comment=”286699″]And, yes, that old Oregon football jersey is just about as glorious as a sports jersey can be. Man.[/quote]

    Sure is. It’s beautiful.

    Wonder how close those colors are to the green and gold used by the Packers about that time.[/quote]

    The Packers back then wore Navy and Yellow Gold. They switched to Green & Gold sometime in the 1950’s, I am sure some of the real Packer fans on this site would know exactly when.[/quote]

    Talk about a hanging fastball

    The Packers wore green and gold off and on during the Lambeau era, but never with any consistency.

    [quote comment=”286755″]The 1960 NFL Chamionship Game – Packers vs. Eagles – has the highlight film in color. When you look at the Packers sidelines, you see something weird but can’t quite figure it out. After watching the highlights 20 times over the years I finally realize what it is …..

    The Championship Game was played in freezing cold, and all of the Packers’ cold weather capes and coats are all colored Navy Blue and Gold, while the Packers’ unis are Green and Gold.

    They were using the older vintage cold weather gear years after transitioning to Green and Gold.

    How long would it take the current NFL uni police to screachingly stop such a thing today?

    I was at the Saints’ preseason game last night and the uni police were patrolling the teams’ benches and instructing players on socks and tucked in shorts.

    It’s not called the No Fun League for nuthin …[/quote]

    The league wouldn’t have had a problem – blue was an official (if largely unused, except on the sideline capes, as you mentioned) color of the Packers into the 1960s. I’d love to see that footage, though – where’d you see it?

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    Also, I’m a much bigger fan of the newly-branded “I-State” uniforms after seeing them in action last night.
    Maybe this has already been discussed, Matt, but they look a lot like Southern Cal now, don’t they? It’s an improvement, though. And “I-State” is a smart move for the school.

    The uni switch reminds me of Hayden Fry making the Hawkeyes look almost exactly like the Steelers.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”286761″]Also, I’m a much bigger fan of the newly-branded “I-State” uniforms after seeing them in action last night.
    Maybe this has already been discussed, Matt, but they look a lot like Southern Cal now, don’t they? It’s an improvement, though. And “I-State” is a smart move for the school.

    The uni switch reminds me of Hayden Fry making the Hawkeyes look almost exactly like the Steelers.[/quote]

    Nothing wrong with the Hawkeyes or Cyclones borrowing the look of a professional team. ;)

  • Mr. Met | August 29, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    Would an NFL player even be allowed on the field if he tried this today?

    http://chancemichael...

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    They were using the older vintage cold weather gear years after transitioning to Green and Gold.
    I’ve noticed that, too: They had the blue capes in the ’62 title game as well.

    And Chance is exactly right: My copy of the Packers’ “1964 Press Book” lists the team colors as “Navy Blue, Green and Gold.”

  • LarenR | August 29, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”286738″]Shouldn’t the Chiefs at least explore and see if Arrowhead bottled water wants some naming rights action?[/quote]
    Arrowhead Water used to be the naming sponsor of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks arena: The Arrowhead Pond. Now they are just The Ducks and play at the Honda Center (same arena, new sponsor).

    Plus, I don’t know how much it would help the water company to name the KC stadium. Would anyone even realize there was a sponsor? Would it be Arrowhead(r) Stadium? Arrowhead Water Stadium? Arrowhead Arrowhead Stadium? Arrowhead’s Arrowhead? Arrowhead, presented by Arrowhead, Stadium?

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”286764″]They were using the older vintage cold weather gear years after transitioning to Green and Gold.
    I’ve noticed that, too: They had the blue capes in the ’62 title game as well.

    And Chance is exactly right: My copy of the Packers’ “1964 Press Book” lists the team colors as “Navy Blue, Green and Gold.”[/quote]

    I want to say that they dropped blue in 1966 (my suspicion is that they finally bought new capes, or the blue ones finally wore out). But I’m not 100% sure about that.

  • Matt | August 29, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”286761″]Also, I’m a much bigger fan of the newly-branded “I-State” uniforms after seeing them in action last night.
    Maybe this has already been discussed, Matt, but they look a lot like Southern Cal now, don’t they? It’s an improvement, though. And “I-State” is a smart move for the school.

    The uni switch reminds me of Hayden Fry making the Hawkeyes look almost exactly like the Steelers.[/quote]

    While they do look similar, I think the shoulder stripes, white shoes, and typeface are a few subtle differences that go a long way in distinguishing I-State from USC. The cardinal pants on the road unis will especially help I-State establish their new uniform identity. Overall, I’m very happy with the changes that have been made.

  • Jason Gomez | August 29, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”286761″]Also, I’m a much bigger fan of the newly-branded “I-State” uniforms after seeing them in action last night.
    Maybe this has already been discussed, Matt, but they look a lot like Southern Cal now, don’t they? It’s an improvement, though. And “I-State” is a smart move for the school.

    The uni switch reminds me of Hayden Fry making the Hawkeyes look almost exactly like the Steelers.[/quote]

    Thats what Fry did, he wanted to model them after a winning team and foster an atmosphere of winning that was lacking at the time.

  • Andy11 | August 29, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”286765″][quote comment=”286738″]Shouldn’t the Chiefs at least explore and see if Arrowhead bottled water wants some naming rights action?[/quote]
    Arrowhead Water used to be the naming sponsor of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks arena: The Arrowhead Pond. Now they are just The Ducks and play at the Honda Center (same arena, new sponsor).

    Plus, I don’t know how much it would help the water company to name the KC stadium. Would anyone even realize there was a sponsor? Would it be Arrowhead(r) Stadium? Arrowhead Water Stadium? Arrowhead Arrowhead Stadium? Arrowhead’s Arrowhead? Arrowhead, presented by Arrowhead, Stadium?[/quote]

    The Reds play in “Great American Ballpark”, which actually sounds pretty decent, for a sponsored stadium name. I wouldn’t be surprised if many people don’t realize it’s named after an insurance company.

  • John Zajac | August 29, 2008 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”286727″][quote comment=”286660″]Is that Manny in the bottom-right corner of the Thome photo? Practically unrecognizable with short hair and non-pajama pants![/quote]

    it sure is! there’s also orel hershiser in the back as well as brian giles on the left, omar vizquel in the center, charlie manuel to the left and sandy alomar, jr. (sandy jr., not alomar jr.). wow, what a team that was. practically an all-star team in itself! i still cringe every time i think of the ’97 WS.[/quote]

    I was going to say that looks like the ’97 Series… but anybody else wondering where the World Series sleeve patches are? You can see it on the left side of Orel’s hat, and that’s definately an NL logo for the batting circle (plus all that teal, definitely in Florida), but I really thought that Cleveland wore the sleeve patches as well, since that was the last year of the ‘traditional’ logo before they started getting all creative in 1998.

  • Tom Farley | August 29, 2008 at 3:53 pm |

    The cardinal pants on the road unis will especially help I-State establish their new uniform identity.
    I didn’t know about the cardinal pants. Yes, obviously that’s a difference. I was reacting only to last night’s photos.

    And of course, if you’re happy with the changes, that’s what counts.

  • John Zajac | August 29, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    Although Manny does looks a little smaller, can’t tell if that’s just because he has a uniform that fits him or because of something else, but that’s another story in itself, isn’t it.

  • Jet | August 29, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”286714″][quote comment=”286706″] They should either eliminate the yellow trim (as in the original design) or add some yellow to the helmet.[/quote]

    Agreed

    -Jet

  • Beeker | August 29, 2008 at 4:02 pm |

    I posted this yesterday, but does anyone know about this makers mark? You can see it on his shirt, shorts, hat, and wrist band. It kind of looks like an infiniti symbol (math, not car).

    http://farm4.static....

    That’s Robert Kendrick.

  • Jason Gomez | August 29, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”286769″][quote comment=”286765″][quote comment=”286738″]Shouldn’t the Chiefs at least explore and see if Arrowhead bottled water wants some naming rights action?[/quote]
    Arrowhead Water used to be the naming sponsor of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks arena: The Arrowhead Pond. Now they are just The Ducks and play at the Honda Center (same arena, new sponsor).

    Plus, I don’t know how much it would help the water company to name the KC stadium. Would anyone even realize there was a sponsor? Would it be Arrowhead(r) Stadium? Arrowhead Water Stadium? Arrowhead Arrowhead Stadium? Arrowhead’s Arrowhead? Arrowhead, presented by Arrowhead, Stadium?[/quote]

    The Reds play in “Great American Ballpark”, which actually sounds pretty decent, for a sponsored stadium name. I wouldn’t be surprised if many people don’t realize it’s named after an insurance company.[/quote]

    Its too bad they have to change. What about Lamar Hunt Field at Arrowhead Stadium? Gates BBQ @Arrowhead? I have a feeling Sprint might be in there somewhere since they are based in KC.

  • Philly Al in NoCal | August 29, 2008 at 4:08 pm |

    Having played high school football in Pennsylvania, that PA helmet blog is a time destroyer.

  • Ricko | August 29, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    re: Chad Johnson and odd name changes…

    The Amazing Kreskin’s legal name is “Amazing Kreskin”.

    This, of course, makes him the only known human with the same first name as a Veg-O-Matic.

    —Ricko

  • John L. | August 29, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”286746″][quote comment=”286739″][quote comment=”286736″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.[/quote]

    Not only them, but also Williamsport Area, Wilmington Area and Wissahickon.[/quote]
    Quite a few ripoffs in there including Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Miami, Iowa, Kansas State and more. And a multitude of the same pawprint logo being used for Huskies, Panthers, Bulldogs, Bears, Bobcats, Cougars, Tigers and Jaguars.

    Kudos to the ones who show some originality in their design.[/quote]

    Congratulations to the Hatboro-Horsham Hatters, who manage to rip off two logos on their helmet, one NFL, one NCAA.
    http://www.pahelmetp...

  • LarenR | August 29, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”286777″]re: Chad Johnson and odd name changes…

    The Amazing Kreskin’s legal name is “Amazing Kreskin”.

    This, of course, makes him the only known human with the same first name as a Veg-O-Matic.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Not a name change, strictly speaking, but Penn Jillette’s (of Penn & Teller) kid is named Moxie Crimefighter Jillette. I heard Penn say that it was so if he (Moxie) ever got arrested he could tell the cop, “my middle name is Crimefighter…see, we’re on the same team.” I’m sure the explanation was a joke, but it makes as much sense as anything Ocho Cinco has ever said.

  • Duckstyle | August 29, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”286759″][quote comment=”286741″][quote comment=”286731″]It’s too bad Chad Johnson isn’t smart enough to realize “ocho cinco” actually reads “eight five,” instead of eighty five … which would actually be “ochenta y cinco.”

    Whatever, he’s a goof.[/quote]

    This has been covered before, aparently is “cool” to say 8-5, insted of 85 in some circles. I agree, that it makes him look pretty stupid, and I doubt this story is true. As far as I know you can’t just willy-nilly change your name to whatever you want, it has to be approved by a judge, if I’m not mistaken. And I can’t imagine that this clown could convince any official that he’s serious about it.

    Sincerly,
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock[/quote]

    Maybe you’re thinking of parents’ attempts to name their kid something outrageous? I’ve heard judges deny parents requests to name their kids something outrageous, but I’ve never seen a judge deny an adult’s request to change his name to something outrageous. Example: anyone who watched wrestling back in the day, you guys remember that guy The Ultimate Warrior? His name was Jim Hellwig, yet he legally changed his name to Warrior. I would think that’s just as outrageous a “Ocho Cinco”, and yet no judge told him he couldn’t do it.

    Maybe if an adult tried to name himself after something that is trademarked and/or copyrighted? But “Ocho Cinco” wouldn’t fall under that category.[/quote]

    Nope, I’m definitly talking about cases like “the wide reciever formerly known as Chad Johnson”‘s. Everything I’ve found says it’s basically up to the judge’s digression, except of course in copyright infringement cases like you mentioned. Although the law seems to vary a little from state to state, I’d like to think a rational judge would throw this out based upon the fact that he’s a celebrity and this would definitely effect some of his younger and less intelligent fans to copy him.

  • tenjay | August 29, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    this company should buy the naming rights in kc. that’d be cool, right?

  • LarenR | August 29, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”286782″]this company should buy the naming rights in kc. that’d be cool, right?[/quote]
    Please see above.

  • Jeff | August 29, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    Do you know me? My name is Shorpy:

    http://www.shorpy.co...

  • Ste Cz | August 29, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    Regarding the NFL logo socks in this picture http://farm4.static.... I think it’s not actually the socks with the NFL logo on, it’s actually just some black socks with NFL logo sweatbands worn above them.

  • Andy Bowen | August 29, 2008 at 5:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”286744″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]
    Lots of those teams on the front page random helmet thing should get letters- they aren’t even trying to change it a little, they jsut recolor NFL and college logos…

    I saw a Michigan pattern, Wisconsin Motion W (and not the school you mentioned) Bucs, a recolored panthers logo (NFL), a cardinals one… And I don’t really know football.[/quote]

    ACTUALLY, if you want to get technical, Michigan stole the wings off of Delaware first!

    Yes, you see a lot of NFL/NCAA clones in high schools…but companies send out decal catalogs full of them. The high schools that are lazy just pick and choose a recognizable decal and purchase it.

  • Ian | August 29, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    WOW! I know I’m late in posting, but that Rage jersey of Scott’s is AWESOME! I have a game-issued black one in my collection. Nice to see another stumptowner representing the Rage.

  • Ian | August 29, 2008 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”286787″]WOW! I know I’m late in posting, but that Rage jersey of Scott’s is AWESOME! I have a game-issued black one in my collection. Nice to see another stumptowner representing the Rage.[/quote]

    Furthermore, I wanna see more of Scott’s hockey jersey collection! And Paul, being a die-hard OSU fan, I may have to disown you for wearing that Ducks jersey. Oh well… At least it wasn’t a Nike POS.

  • Carl | August 29, 2008 at 6:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”286674″][quote comment=”286670″]In a perfect postscript to Paul’s college kick-off, the new old Stanford played no-longer nauseating Oregon State last night.
    Nice:
    http://tinyurl.com/6...

    And yes, S. Steptoe is going to go some places![/quote]

    Yup. Stanford nicely old-school. Nice to have some teams gaudy, some teams simple. “Uniformity” doesn’t have to mean every team dresses in the same style. Some white shoes, some black shoes. Some black socks, some white socks. God, I’m pretty sure, didn’t made black football shoes the 11th commandment.

    Probably going to Minnesota State Fair today. Only Texas’ is larger, I believe. Who-hoo, mini-donuts and cheese curds, here I come.

    (Don’t wanna start another “great names” orgy, but always kinda liked Sonny Sixkiller as a football name. And, of course, Fair Hooker. Jubilee Dunbar wasn’t bad, either. Or Happy Dix, Brown Marks and Wimpy Winther.)[/quote]

    …ah, the Great Minnesota Get-together. Five bucks that there’s a myriad of Twins, Timberwolves Vikings, and (sigh) Packers jerseys on display from players whose stints on teams were measured in games not seasons. Doubtful for the Wild though, it’s too hot to even the RBK sweaters. Enjoy Ricko, let us know what the 1/3 lb. of bacon on a sick was like.

  • Dustin | August 29, 2008 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”286785″]Regarding the NFL logo socks in this picture http://farm4.static.... I think it’s not actually the socks with the NFL logo on, it’s actually just some black socks with NFL logo sweatbands worn above them.[/quote]
    I’d agree to a point. I have some ankle-high NFL Equipment socks, but don’t know if they make calf high ones. If you look at his forward (left) leg, it looks like it’s some pretty high ankle taping and that the height of the material in question differs from the partially-blocked foot.

  • Tank | August 29, 2008 at 6:40 pm |

    Didn’t Mark Duper legally change his name to Mark Super Duper? Not as outrageous as Chad Ocho Cinco, but still completley unnecessary.

    I think Chad should be able to change his name to anything he likes, as long as it’s not infringing on a copyright or trying to steal someone else’s name (remember Sharmon Shah, now Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar, changing his name to Karim Abdul-Jabbar?) This is America – people are free to be as stupid as they please.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”286781″]
    Nope, I’m definitly talking about cases like “the wide reciever formerly known as Chad Johnson”‘s. Everything I’ve found says it’s basically up to the judge’s digression, except of course in copyright infringement cases like you mentioned. Although the law seems to vary a little from state to state, I’d like to think a rational judge would throw this out based upon the fact that he’s a celebrity and this would definitely effect some of his younger and less intelligent fans to copy him.[/quote]

    Free country. Celebrities don’t lose their freedom when they become celebrities.

    Everybody has the right to be an clown, even if some kids might watch him be a clown and decide to become clowns themselves.

    I can’t stand Chad, and will be glad when he fades into obscurity, but It’d be a pretty scary day when a judge puts limits on a man’s name. Not in this land.

  • chance | August 29, 2008 at 6:54 pm |

    Wait a second, Paul –

    The 1930s Oregon football jersey that Scott had told me about months earlier! It’s got a satin body with knit trim, Wilson tagging, a chain-stitched player name, and lots of hand-sewn mending. With Scott’s permission, I tried it on and wore it for the rest of our visit. One of the most beautiful things I’ve ever had the privilege of wearing, and I don’t mind telling you that it took all my restraint not to conk Scott on the head with a beer bottle just so I could make off with it.

    Are you sure you’re not a jersey collector?

    ;)

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 7:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”286695″]I would like to nominate Scott Little to Mt Watch-More joining the heads of Ricko (Specialty – Old Stuff), Teebz (Hockey), Matt Powers (Shoes), Minna (Black), and LI Phil (Sarcasm). I’m just not sure what Scott’s specialty would be. He’s like a player who you know is great, you’re just not sure why.[/quote]

    Thank you, I am flattered. However Scott’s collection is full of ORIGINALS…like Bo Jackson trainers, the Blazers he is holding up in one pic were George “Iceman” Gervins’s signature shoes!

    http://farm3.static....

    He actually has a pair of my holy grail: AIr Zoom Trainer 1. He even has Jordan XIV football cleats: They were general release, but why does he have them?

    This cat is cool!

  • Chad G | August 29, 2008 at 7:59 pm |

    Don’t know if this has already been said, but Army has numbers on their helmets this year, which they did not have last year.

  • Juan Grande | August 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”286791″]Didn’t Mark Duper legally change his name to Mark Super Duper? Not as outrageous as Chad Ocho Cinco, but still completley unnecessary.

    I think Chad should be able to change his name to anything he likes, as long as it’s not infringing on a copyright or trying to steal someone else’s name (remember Sharmon Shah, now Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar, changing his name to Karim Abdul-Jabbar?) This is America – people are free to be as stupid as they please.[/quote]

    Mark Duper wanted to but the Dolphins threatened to cut him so he did not.

  • joe d. | August 29, 2008 at 8:30 pm |

    though you all might appreciate these h.s. football photos. the first is my alma mater, phoebus h.s.,VA. there new jersey’s are impossible to read from the stands. and the second is michael vick’s old h.s. they have a pretty cool number font and the other team is chalk full’o stripes.

    http://www.dailypres...

    http://www.dailypres...

  • James Craven | August 29, 2008 at 8:37 pm |

    And now, LogoCreep (TM) on the officials in C-USA during the SMU-Rice game.

    The officials are weraring adidas logos on their caps.

    An however, I still hate June Jones’ “Chuck and Duck” offense. (A Buddy Ryan tribute.)

  • Tank | August 29, 2008 at 8:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”286796″]Mark Duper wanted to but the Dolphins threatened to cut him so he did not.[/quote]

    He’s listed as Mark Super Duper on his pro-football reference page:

    http://www.pro-footb...

    I suppose he could have done that after his career was over, but why would the Dolphins care in the first place? Is it even legal to threaten to cut a player for changing his name?

  • Taylor | August 29, 2008 at 8:47 pm |

    What if Chad Johnson/Ocho Cinco was traded to a team that had #85 retired? That’d be funny. Do any of you know any NFL teams with #85 retired? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”286794″][quote comment=”286695″]I would like to nominate Scott Little to Mt Watch-More joining the heads of Ricko (Specialty – Old Stuff), Teebz (Hockey), Matt Powers (Shoes), Minna (Black), and LI Phil (Sarcasm). I’m just not sure what Scott’s specialty would be. He’s like a player who you know is great, you’re just not sure why.[/quote]

    Thank you, I am flattered. However Scott’s collection is full of ORIGINALS…like Bo Jackson trainers, the Blazers he is holding up in one pic were George “Iceman” Gervins’s signature shoes!

    http://farm3.static....

    He actually has a pair of my holy grail: AIr Zoom Trainer 1. He even has Jordan XIV football cleats: They were general release, but why does he have them?

    This cat is cool![/quote]

    And I must give credit to those who came before me:

    1. Todd Krevanchi is the Godfather of UW sneakerdom. The proof is in the creation:
    http://niketalk.yuku...

    2. Mark Mihalik is the sneaker/cleat guru: He too is a creator:
    http://playerexclusi...

    3. There are many more, too many to name but Micah Provines, Pretty Boy Paulie, Juan Grande are just a few!

    Like I said, Scott’s collection is legit!
    In this picture alone, there is sneaker GOLD:
    http://farm4.static....

    Top Row from Left:
    Top Row
    Air Jordan III Military Blue Original 1987!
    Air Jordan III Cement Grey Original 1987
    Air Jordan XI Space Jam Edition 1995
    Air Jordan XIII
    Air Jordan VII

    Row 2
    3 pair of Nike Flightposite 1 including rare silver edition
    Nike Clogposite
    Nike Air Flightposite 3
    Air Jordan XXI

    Row 3
    Air Max 2 CB:Barkley’s Sig
    Air Jordan XVII
    Air Trainer: Bo Jackson’s sig
    Nike Air Barrage Turf
    Air Max Sensation: Chris Webber’s sig
    Nike Shox BB4 Olympic Edition worn by Vince Carter

    Row 4
    Air Max 1: 1987, the first Nike runner with a visible air window
    Air Trainer
    Air Trainer
    Zoom Trainer 1, a remake of the original Air Trainer 1
    Blazer
    Air Solo Flight: When Jimmy Jackson was at TOSU, they wore all grey versions of these!

    Row 5
    Air Delta Force
    Air Kukini: a cult favorite
    Some crazy acg shoes
    Legend?
    Air Sunder Max
    Retro “Year of the Horse” Huarache runners

    Bottom Row

    Jordan Brand ? They came with two different colred shoes
    Jordan Trunners
    Air Jordan II Original 1986
    Air Jordan Nu Retro II?

  • Scott Little | August 29, 2008 at 8:58 pm |

    Thank you everyone for your kind words. I was a little worried that I would be labelled an obsessed nutjob. The whole thing has been such a positive experience, I wish I had come out of the jersey closet earlier. ;)

  • Dustin | August 29, 2008 at 9:03 pm |

    I feel bad for those Pittsburgh Pirates who have the sense to go with stirups today. The red vest just kills all the positive that the high cuffs bring. I somewhat like the red brim on the caps (and the red outline of the “P” as well) as it ties in with the bandanna on the face logo.

    I don’t see another Bautista on the Bucs roster, but why does Denny get to have a first initial on his jersey?

  • Scott Little | August 29, 2008 at 9:05 pm |

    And Mr. Powers definately knows his kicks. Look at him reel off the model names…

    The crazy ACG shoes are Terras. The original sales receipt from 1991 (at the employee store to boot) was stuffed inside too. I about pissed myself when I found that.

  • Flip | August 29, 2008 at 9:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”286730″][quote comment=”286714″][quote comment=”286706″]That brings up a good point although Arrowhead will still be in the name. I love the chiefs dearly but what if they dropped the arrowhead on the helmet and went with the same KC just without the arrow? I know i will probably be blasted for it. In a way I am proud that their have not been any alternate jerseys or tweeks. I still hate the red pants but oh well. I am surprised that they havent gone to putting chiefs on their jerseys like everyother team, I am proud of them.[/quote]
    The one thing that has always bugged me about the Chiefs’ helmets is that they fail to incorporate the yellow trim that is used in their uniforms. As a result, the effect appears incongruous. They should either eliminate the yellow trim (as in the original design) or add some yellow to the helmet.[/quote]

    I agree, they really need a helemt stripe, just mimic the pants and be done with it. I do however dislike the sleeve stripe, much like Miami, it’s just too small, I’d break it up like the bears and widen it a bit like the Packers, browns etc. Oh, and I like the red pants, it gives them a lot of balance, a good look IMO.[/quote]

    Nah, The lack of gold used to bother me, but not that much. It’s a classic design. Other than the red pants and white faceguard, those unis have gone unchanged since the Texans moved to Kansas City. The Chiefs and Royals have great unis and great staiums. Too bad their teams don’t fare as well.

    Also … does anybody know of anyone who refers to Iowa State as I State? Not me. The new unis are better than the Chiefs’ ripoffs.

  • =bg= | August 29, 2008 at 9:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”286769″][quote comment=”286765″][quote comment=”286738″]Shouldn’t the Chiefs at least explore and see if Arrowhead bottled water wants some naming rights action?[/quote]
    Arrowhead Water used to be the naming sponsor of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks arena: The Arrowhead Pond. Now they are just The Ducks and play at the Honda Center (same arena, new sponsor).

    Plus, I don’t know how much it would help the water company to name the KC stadium. Would anyone even realize there was a sponsor? Would it be Arrowhead(r) Stadium? Arrowhead Water Stadium? Arrowhead Arrowhead Stadium? Arrowhead’s Arrowhead? Arrowhead, presented by Arrowhead, Stadium?[/quote]

    The Reds play in “Great American Ballpark”, which actually sounds pretty decent, for a sponsored stadium name. I wouldn’t be surprised if many people don’t realize it’s named after an insurance company.[/quote]

    Great American is the insurance co of Carl Lindner, a local mogul who was the Reds owner, and at one time, indirectly, my boss.

    When Riverfron changed to Cinergy, I don’t know a soul that called it that..it had been Rivefront for like 26 years or so.

    As for stadiums, for years I didn’t know what Rich Stadium stood for, or Ericsson Stadium.

  • Teebz | August 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”286803″]I feel bad for those Pittsburgh Pirates who have the sense to go with stirups today. The red vest just kills all the positive that the high cuffs bring. I somewhat like the red brim on the caps (and the red outline of the “P” as well) as it ties in with the bandanna on the face logo.

    I don’t see another Bautista on the Bucs roster, but why does Denny get to have a first initial on his jersey?[/quote]

    They dealt Jose Bautista to the Jays about a week ago.

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    Another Amazing Pic:
    http://farm3.static....

    Top Row to the Right of Plaque

    Nike Foamposite One: Penny Hardaway’s Shoe in Orlando

    Next Row

    Nike Air Bound: Ohio State Edition
    Nike Air FiveTool: Albert Pujols Player Exclsuive Edition

    Sixth Row down:
    Air 2 Strong High from 1995

    VERY IMPORTANT: At the Right of the Player Exclusive Blazers(Notice Smith on the heel tab)in Little”s hand is a pair of Nike Air Zoom Huarache 2k5 ID. Those aren’t his initaials, BG, so that means he got them at an outlet.
    When you order shoes from NikeID, they take four weeks to be delivered. If the receiver doesn’t like them, they get returned to Nike and sold at their Factory stores!

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 9:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”286804″]And Mr. Powers definately knows his kicks. Look at him reel off the model names…

    The crazy ACG shoes are Terras. The original sales receipt from 1991 (at the employee store to boot) was stuffed inside too. I about pissed myself when I found that.[/quote]

    Dude, I almost pissed myself when I saw those pics!

    You are my hero and I haven’t even really checked out the uni stuff yet. I’ve been using a microscope on those kicks…some of those are CRAZY RARE!

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”286809″][quote comment=”286804″]And Mr. Powers definately knows his kicks. Look at him reel off the model names…

    The crazy ACG shoes are Terras. The original sales receipt from 1991 (at the employee store to boot) was stuffed inside too. I about pissed myself when I found that.[/quote]

    Dude, I almost pissed myself when I saw those pics!

    You are my hero and I haven’t even really checked out the uni stuff yet. I’ve been using a microscope on those kicks…some of those are CRAZY RARE![/quote]

    http://farm4.static....

    In the pic above, I see AIr Flight windmills, probably Tayshaun Prince’s, PE AIr Force 2’s with signatures, Nate Robinson PE AIr MAx Elites, Jordan Brand Boxing SHoes, usually worn by Roy Jones Junior!

    ANd old Nike Shark football cleats on the top row!

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 9:51 pm |

    http://farm4.static....
    Next to those Terras are some sick Trailblazeres PE”s as well as those SUnder MAxes have EVAN on th heel.

    AIr More Uptempo, Scottie Pippens shoe before he had a sig, Air Bound CRAZINESS!

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 9:52 pm |

    I’m done UW, I apologize…that stuff was too good to be true though…my hat is off to you Mr. Little!

  • Paul Lukas | August 29, 2008 at 10:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”286802″]Thank you everyone for your kind words. I was a little worried that I would be labelled an obsessed nutjob. The whole thing has been such a positive experience, I wish I had come out of the jersey closet earlier. ;)[/quote]

    Just to be clear, Scott IS an obsessed nutjob. But of the very highest (and most entertaining) caliber. Between him and Ricko, I feel like we’ve encountered two major uni scholars this year. Very cool.

  • S. Bennett | August 29, 2008 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”286800″]What if Chad Johnson/Ocho Cinco was traded to a team that had #85 retired? That’d be funny. Do any of you know any NFL teams with #85 retired? I can’t think of any off the top of my head.[/quote]

    Trade his ass to Detroit or St. Louis! But only AFTER he changes his name.

    http://football.abou...

    SB

  • Johnny O | August 29, 2008 at 10:20 pm |

    Anyone know what the MLB Division and wild card shirts/hats will look like for this year? I assume if anyone knew they would be posted already, but I am just making sure.

  • Jon | August 29, 2008 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”286786″][quote comment=”286744″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]
    Lots of those teams on the front page random helmet thing should get letters- they aren’t even trying to change it a little, they jsut recolor NFL and college logos…

    I saw a Michigan pattern, Wisconsin Motion W (and not the school you mentioned) Bucs, a recolored panthers logo (NFL), a cardinals one… And I don’t really know football.[/quote]

    ACTUALLY, if you want to get technical, Michigan stole the wings off of Delaware first![/quote]

    Well, not exactly: http://en.wikipedia....

  • timmy b | August 29, 2008 at 10:30 pm |

    As a proud keystoner (not stoner!!), that high school football helmet site is a mind-blower. Yes, a lot of plagerized logos, but out of 600+ high schools, that is so bound to happen.

    Altoona high’s helmet on the left side features a serifed “A” inside a white oval.

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 10:51 pm |

    http://farm4.static....

    In this pic, Quinn is back to wearing the Revolution as opposed to the Air Advantage.

    In the following pic, #24 on the far right is wearing the new AiR XP.

    http://farm4.static....

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 11:09 pm |

    Couldn’t find Cooley’s new helmet, however I did find the new ion:

    http://wai.redskins....

    As of Training camp, he was wearing the same Revolution and facemask as last year!

    http://wai.redskins....

  • Scott Little | August 29, 2008 at 11:11 pm |

    Matt,
    This is for you. In this pic:
    http://farm4.static....

    I’m putting up a pair of shoes on the top row. The Avias just to the right are Drexlers. The orange ones just to the left are Urlachers. Just behind my arm on the 2nd row, to the left, those say 10 BIBBY, to the right, those say 5 BAGWELL. And the PE AFII (OG) to the left on top were worn and autod by Tom Chambers.

  • Juan Grande | August 29, 2008 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”286799″][quote comment=”286796″]Mark Duper wanted to but the Dolphins threatened to cut him so he did not.[/quote]

    He’s listed as Mark Super Duper on his pro-football reference page:

    http://www.pro-footb...

    I suppose he could have done that after his career was over, but why would the Dolphins care in the first place? Is it even legal to threaten to cut a player for changing his name?[/quote]

    I should have been more clear. If he had changed his first name to “Super” then the Dolphins would have been pissed. Remember this was the 1980s, back when teams and owners would actually enforce rules and discipline on their players.

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”286736″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.[/quote]

    Washington State:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Bucs:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Tulane:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    West Virginia:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    VaTech Dyslexia:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    The U:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Utes:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Wyoming:Catasaqua: Home of UWer Todd Krevanchi
    http://www.pahelmetp...

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 11:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”286822″][quote comment=”286736″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.[/quote]

    Washington State:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Bucs:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Tulane:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    West Virginia:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    VaTech Dyslexia:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    The U:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Utes:
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Wyoming:Catasaqua: Home of UWer Todd Krevanchi
    http://www.pahelmetp...

    Whoops!

  • Eric B in KC | August 29, 2008 at 11:37 pm |

    is it just me or am i not seeing a #24 in that pic?

    as far as the chiefs go, i think they need to ditch the yellow. the ketchup and mustard never really worked for me. i always thought they should darken the colors a little and go with something similar to what the redskins wore in the throwback season about 14 years ago.

  • MPowers1634 | August 29, 2008 at 11:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”286820″]Matt,
    This is for you. In this pic:
    http://farm4.static....

    I’m putting up a pair of shoes on the top row. The Avias just to the right are Drexlers. The orange ones just to the left are Urlachers. Just behind my arm on the 2nd row, to the left, those say 10 BIBBY, to the right, those say 5 BAGWELL. And the PE AFII (OG) to the left on top were worn and autod by Tom Chambers.[/quote]

    Incredible, Scott:

    Mine pales in comparison however one can always dream:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    I haven’t the patience or the resources, for that matter, to search for the COOL AS HELL PE’s you have!

  • Andy Bowen | August 29, 2008 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”286816″][quote comment=”286786″][quote comment=”286744″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]
    Lots of those teams on the front page random helmet thing should get letters- they aren’t even trying to change it a little, they jsut recolor NFL and college logos…

    I saw a Michigan pattern, Wisconsin Motion W (and not the school you mentioned) Bucs, a recolored panthers logo (NFL), a cardinals one… And I don’t really know football.[/quote]

    ACTUALLY, if you want to get technical, Michigan stole the wings off of Delaware first![/quote]

    Well, not exactly: http://en.wikipedia....

    I stand corrected…thank you!

  • Stuby | August 30, 2008 at 12:20 am |

    [quote comment=”286825″][quote comment=”286820″]Matt,
    This is for you. In this pic:
    http://farm4.static....

    I’m putting up a pair of shoes on the top row. The Avias just to the right are Drexlers. The orange ones just to the left are Urlachers. Just behind my arm on the 2nd row, to the left, those say 10 BIBBY, to the right, those say 5 BAGWELL. And the PE AFII (OG) to the left on top were worn and autod by Tom Chambers.[/quote]

    Incredible, Scott:

    Mine pales in comparison however one can always dream:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    I haven’t the patience or the resources, for that matter, to search for the COOL AS HELL PE’s you have![/quote]
    Dude, I love the pink Barbie car!

  • Patrick S. | August 30, 2008 at 12:57 am |

    Now starring in “The Scott Little Story”…Owen Wilson!

    /seriously, would love to see more of the hockey jerseys

  • Jon | August 30, 2008 at 1:21 am |

    [quote comment=”286744″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]
    Lots of those teams on the front page random helmet thing should get letters- they aren’t even trying to change it a little, they jsut recolor NFL and college logos…

    I saw a Michigan pattern, Wisconsin Motion W (and not the school you mentioned) Bucs, a recolored panthers logo (NFL), a cardinals one… And I don’t really know football.[/quote]

    Does anyone know the story behind the William Penn helmet? SE District III

  • jim nedelka | August 30, 2008 at 7:53 pm |

    Bowflex seems like a natural sponsor for the KC Chiefs…perhaps Bowflex Arrowhead Stadium??

  • Caretaker | September 1, 2008 at 4:01 am |

    [quote comment=”286736″][quote comment=”286735″][quote comment=”286732″]Awesome Pennsylvania High School football helmet site here.

    http://www.pahelmetp...

    There are some amazing designs around the state. Interesting to leaf through![/quote]

    Looks like Wallenpack Area High’s gonna be getting a letter from Wisconsin. And they put it right on the front page….[/quote]

    Yep.

    Steal somebody else’s work, and eventually you get caught.[/quote]

    What are they going to do, come and confiscate the 50/50 winnings? Take that night’s concessions stand revenue? If you have a problem with it go after the decal dealers. They make easy for these schools to be lazy with their helmet designs.

  • Chaz Noerenberg | September 2, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    I don’t think those are NFL logo socks that Browns receiver is wearing, but just black NFL wristbands on top of his black taped shoes.