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Friday Night Whites

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I’ve been in and out of the loop lately — crazy things going on in Omaha, you know — so forgive me if this has been remarked upon previously. But I checked the calendar yesterday, and it said Friday. Then I saw this picture of Zach Duke, and it said “Friday” in the caption. But wait! That can’t be right — the Pirates usually look like hell on Fridays!

Lo, behold, and holy crap — I believe this is the second home Friday in a row without the red vests. I don’t know, maybe there’s a ketchup (or catsup, if you prefer) shortage in Pittsburgh and the Bucs are doing their part in spreading awareness. Or maybe somebody in the front office finally said, “You know, those really look bad. We should probably stop wearing them.”

On second thought, that’d be giving too much credit to anybody in that front office. It’s probably the ketchup thing. — Bryan

 

80 comments to Friday Night Whites

  • Eric Berg | July 12, 2008 at 7:31 am |

    First time I can remember seeing a cycling NOB. But maybe I’m just a NOB NOOB. (Try saying THAT 20 times fast!)

    http://www.cyclingne...

  • Anthony | July 12, 2008 at 8:37 am |

    I hope the bucs front office finally came to their senses. First step, get rid of ugly red vests; second step, figure out how to evaluate, manage, and keep talent; third step, win.

    Maybe this is the beginning of great things or at least a .500 season in my lifetime.

  • carmenfanzone | July 12, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    Thank God almighty they got rid or those wretched things. Now they need to go back to just black and yellow as their primary colors.

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    Pirates should lose the pinstriped alts, too. Pinstripes are fine, but not on the Pirates. Just not their tradition.

  • carmenfanzone | July 12, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG, are road teams allowed to wear the alt jerseys in the game? (Since Z always has the Cubs wear their blue alts when he starts). I know the A’s wore every combination they had for the ASG years ago, but has that rule changed (and now the visitors HAVE to wear road grays)?

    thanks in advance.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    Am I being too picky to now ask that their black undershirts be … oh, I dunno … black?

    And, since we’re on the subject of turning a franchise around, anyone look at the standings this morning?

  • Andrew | July 12, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    I for one like the pinstripes. They should drop the red vest in favor of a black vest though.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    While searching for something else, I came across this page. It’s like a Bizzaro World Uniwatch site.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”279505″]Pirates should lose the pinstriped alts, too. Pinstripes are fine, but not on the Pirates. Just not their tradition.[/quote]

    Good point. They’ve never worn pinstripes before. Why start now?

  • Stuby | July 12, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    Bring back the stovepipe/pillbox cap for the Bucs!

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”279510″][quote comment=”279505″]Pirates should lose the pinstriped alts, too. Pinstripes are fine, but not on the Pirates. Just not their tradition.[/quote]

    Good point. They’ve never worn pinstripes before. Why start now?[/quote]

    I’d say that’ll teach me to be sarcastic, but we all know better. Let me try this …

    http://www.fsu.edu/~...

    http://images.google...

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”279512″][quote comment=”279510″][quote comment=”279505″]Pirates should lose the pinstriped alts, too. Pinstripes are fine, but not on the Pirates. Just not their tradition.[/quote]

    Good point. They’ve never worn pinstripes before. Why start now?[/quote]

    I’d say that’ll teach me to be sarcastic, but we all know better. Let me try this …

    http://www.fsu.edu/~...

    http://images.google...

    Oh, I know the Pirates HAVE worn pinstripes, and the bumblebee one were kinda funky and all. What I meant was, there are lot of teams that have dabbled with pins, but haven’t exactly become synonymous with them. When I think pins, I think Yankees, Cubs, Twins, White Sox, Phillies, Mets (hey, they still look best in pins)–even DiamondBacks and Rockies–and a few others. Don’t mean teams that ALWAYS wear them, but that have more times than not in the past 50 years or so.

    The opposite would be teams like the Cardinals, Angels and Giants, for example. Sure they HAVE worn pins, but we’d certainly never say pins were exactly their longstanding or traditional style.

    That’s what I meant about the Pirates.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    I saw something this morning in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that made me think I was about to see another star-spangled cap P.R. fiasco. Kurt Warner (still involved in St. Louis, despite being jettisoned to the dessert) is in town signing autographs to raise money for Midwest flooding efforts. My eyebrows raised when I saw this:

    All proceeds go to the Midwest Flood Relief Fund, set up by Warner’s First Things First Foundation.

    Here we go again, right? Then came this:

    “One hundred percent of the money we collect will go to flood relief,” he said. “What we’ll do is look at some individual cases where we can provide the most assistance.”

    Would that be so hard for someone from MLB to say? Or would the empty pocketbooks of cash-strapped MLB owners not allow them to do so?

  • Phil | July 12, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    Are sleeves too much to ask for too? I haven’t talked to a single person who thinks that sleeveless is the better alternative.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”279505″]When I think pins, I think Yankees, Cubs, Twins, White Sox, Phillies, Mets (hey, they still look best in pins)–even DiamondBacks and Rockies–and a few others. Don’t mean teams that ALWAYS wear them, but that have more times than not in the past 50 years or so.

    The opposite would be teams like the Cardinals, Angels and Giants, for example. Sure they HAVE worn pins …[/quote]

    Giants? (not doubting, but would love to see pictures)

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”279516″][quote comment=”279505″]When I think pins, I think Yankees, Cubs, Twins, White Sox, Phillies, Mets (hey, they still look best in pins)–even DiamondBacks and Rockies–and a few others. Don’t mean teams that ALWAYS wear them, but that have more times than not in the past 50 years or so.

    The opposite would be teams like the Cardinals, Angels and Giants, for example. Sure they HAVE worn pins …[/quote]

    Giants? (not doubting, but would love to see pictures)[/quote]

    Giant go way back, as do the Cardinals.
    http://exhibits.base...
    http://exhibits.base...

  • Denver Gregg | July 12, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    Last night I saw the last part of the 1951 movie “Angels in the Outfield”. One big uni-botch: in the climactic final game (where the Pirates and Giants both looked great for the most part), the pitcher has one stirrup on correctly and the other one on backwards!

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    1991 Giants throwback game.
    Interesting approach…unis were styled right, but where done in current colors of orange and black, instead of the red and navy of 1925.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Anyone know if any other teams have done that? Can you imagine this uni in forest and gold, for example?

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    Or this one in orange and black?

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Aaron | July 12, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    I’m just going to say the red Pirates alternates look much, much better in person than they do on TV.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”279521″]I’m just going to say the red Pirates alternates look much, much better in person than they do on TV.[/quote]

    Well I would HOPE SO!

    :)

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    Hmmm…imagine this is navy and teal (with gray roads)

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 11:04 am |
  • Pretty Boy Paulie | July 12, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    The Pirates need to cut the crap already. Drop SLEEVELESS altogether and adopt an actual VEST like this…
    http://artfiles.art....
    the striped socks would be ideal too.

    As for an Alternate just got with a simple SHORT SLEEVE black jersey, Yellow text & numbers with white trim and two thin yellow & white stripes about an inch from the edge of the sleeve. Similar to the jersey on the far right…

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Mike Engle | July 12, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG, are road teams allowed to wear the alt jerseys in the game? (Since Z always has the Cubs wear their blue alts when he starts). I know the A’s wore every combination they had for the ASG years ago, but has that rule changed (and now the visitors HAVE to wear road grays)?

    thanks in advance.[/quote]
    Everybody wears the official home or road uniform. Period. There will be no softball tops, alternate hats, or Flashback Friday uniforms. Whites vs San Diego sands and the grays. Period with a dot.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”279526″][quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG, are road teams allowed to wear the alt jerseys in the game? (Since Z always has the Cubs wear their blue alts when he starts). I know the A’s wore every combination they had for the ASG years ago, but has that rule changed (and now the visitors HAVE to wear road grays)?

    thanks in advance.[/quote]
    Everybody wears the official home or road uniform. Period. There will be no softball tops, alternate hats, or Flashback Friday uniforms. Whites vs San Diego sands and the grays. Period with a dot.[/quote]

    Confirmed or wishful thinking?

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | July 12, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”279523″]Hmmm…imagine this is navy and teal (with gray roads)

    http://exhibits.base...

    You’re kidding right? That home jersey and cap would be come a favorite with the People Nation.
    The trademark cap of the Latin Kings, Vicelords, Black P Stones and countless other street gangs.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | July 12, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”279527″][quote comment=”279526″][quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG, are road teams allowed to wear the alt jerseys in the game? (Since Z always has the Cubs wear their blue alts when he starts). I know the A’s wore every combination they had for the ASG years ago, but has that rule changed (and now the visitors HAVE to wear road grays)?

    thanks in advance.[/quote]
    Everybody wears the official home or road uniform. Period. There will be no softball tops, alternate hats, or Flashback Friday uniforms. Whites vs San Diego sands and the grays. Period with a dot.[/quote]

    Confirmed or wishful thinking?[/quote]

    That is confirmed. Big Z will have to man up and wear a gray jersey like the rest of his teammates.

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”279528″][quote comment=”279523″]Hmmm…imagine this is navy and teal (with gray roads)

    http://exhibits.base...

    You’re kidding right? That home jersey and cap would be come a favorite with the People Nation.
    The trademark cap of the Latin Kings, Vicelords, Black P Stones and countless other street gangs.[/quote]

    Was making ref. to post #17 about “adjusted” throwbacks.

  • Johnny F. | July 12, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    I do like the white so much better. I will say, however, they need to have a single-tone undershirt. The black/grey thing doesn’t look quite right. Just black would be fine.

    Also- playing in a vest, w/ a dri-fit style undershit is EXTREMELY comfortable, especially in the summer.

  • Johnny F. | July 12, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    My “undershirt” typo above is pretty funny.

  • Jet | July 12, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    yer on a roll today, Ricko!

  • Jet | July 12, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    While searching for something else, I stumbled upon yet another blogger designing his own hockey logos, with less than stellar results however:

    http://www.kineticid...

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    Timelines to Ponder ….

    Yahoo Sports Headline:

    Boy fractures skull after hit by ball at Cubs game

    Either the poor kid has really, REALLY bad luck, or he fractured his skill WHEN he got hit by that ball. Either way, it’s a sad story. From this point on, all fans at games will wear full body armor (everywhere except the head, so they can still drink beer and watch the game).

  • Marty Met | July 12, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”279519″]1991 Giants throwback game.
    Interesting approach…unis were styled right, but where done in current colors of orange and black, instead of the red and navy of 1925.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Anyone know if any other teams have done that? Can you imagine this uni in forest and gold, for example?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Yeah!??! It would look a lot like this.

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Joe | July 12, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”279515″]Are sleeves too much to ask for too? I haven’t talked to a single person who thinks that sleeveless is the better alternative.[/quote]

    Let me be the first to say I like the sleeveless look. They switched to that look when PNC Park opened as a nod to the 1960 World Series champs. Sure the combination of a 21st century uniform cut and the standard Nike undershirts that typically don’t match well fails to make an authentic 1960’s look, but I still generally like them.

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”279537″][quote comment=”279515″]Are sleeves too much to ask for too? I haven’t talked to a single person who thinks that sleeveless is the better alternative.[/quote]

    Let me be the first to say I like the sleeveless look. They switched to that look when PNC Park opened as a nod to the 1960 World Series champs. Sure the combination of a 21st century uniform cut and the standard Nike undershirts that typically don’t match well fails to make an authentic 1960’s look, but I still generally like them.[/quote]

    I second that motion. Plus, think of what the uniforms would look like if they WERE cut as they were in the 1960s. Today steroid affected … er … um … more “workout concious” players would look like that 300 pound guy in a Bulls jersey in the stands of the United Center.

    Bonus thought … I bet Paul will be first in line to buy THESE babies!

    http://www.techeblog...

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”279536″][quote comment=”279519″]1991 Giants throwback game.
    Interesting approach…unis were styled right, but where done in current colors of orange and black, instead of the red and navy of 1925.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Anyone know if any other teams have done that? Can you imagine this uni in forest and gold, for example?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Yeah!??! It would look a lot like this.

    http://exhibits.base...

    Well, duh.

    But if we go by replacing one color with another (forest for navy, gold for red), lettering and numbers would be gold edged in forest…little stuff like that would be interestingly different from current A’s, and vastly different from ’56 unis, which was the real point anyway. Mostly, though (in deference to our Flounder), I was thinking about the stirrups, bloused pants, black shoes, etc. LOL.

    The core question still is about the Giants taking a vintage uni in a different color scheme and updating it in the team’s current colors…and wondering if anyone knew if any other teams had done such a thing for a TBTC.

    Considering that, so far, there are no answers, then maybe the Giants are the only ones.

  • Brandz | July 12, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    hey, can anyone link those VT jerseys that were mentioned a few weeks ago? The one’s that are selling but no one is sure if they are the actual jerseys being worn this season…If you could, link that if you find it!

    Thanks,

    Brandon

  • Brandz | July 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    they are the ugly ones with the orange sleeves with orange side paneling!

  • KT | July 12, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    Caught a little World Team Tennis on TV last night. Philadelphia vs. Delaware. Apparently on tape from a couple of nights ago.

    WTT teams have NOB, which does look way out of place on a tennis outfit.

    And one of the unis was a little too tight for one of the women’s doubles players. She should have gone for a little baggier look given her…uh…shape.

  • Skycat | July 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”279539″][quote comment=”279536″][quote comment=”279519″]1991 Giants throwback game.
    Interesting approach…unis were styled right, but where done in current colors of orange and black, instead of the red and navy of 1925.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Anyone know if any other teams have done that? Can you imagine this uni in forest and gold, for example?

    http://exhibits.base...

    Yeah!??! It would look a lot like this.

    http://exhibits.base...

    Well, duh.

    But if we go by replacing one color with another (forest for navy, gold for red), lettering and numbers would be gold edged in forest…little stuff like that would be interestingly different from current A’s, and vastly different from ’56 unis, which was the real point anyway. Mostly, though (in deference to our Flounder), I was thinking about the stirrups, bloused pants, black shoes, etc. LOL.

    The core question still is about the Giants taking a vintage uni in a different color scheme and updating it in the team’s current colors…and wondering if anyone knew if any other teams had done such a thing for a TBTC.

    Considering that, so far, there are no answers, then maybe the Giants are the only ones.[/quote]

    I wonder why this look never caught on:
    http://exhibits.base...

  • Greg | July 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    This is my first time posting, and I didn’t know this would be buried as the last post on the Friday thread. So … I’m reposting it here … hope that’s OK.
    =======
    Those of you who watched the 1952 world series film might have noticed that it was narrated by Lew Fonseca. That name was familiar to me, but I couldn’t remember why. Here’s the best biography I found. Short version. Fascinating life. Good major leaguer; probably would have been MVP in 1929. Injuries shortened his career. Managed a bit, and was the first to use film study as a tool. After being fired as a manager, he went to the league presidents with the idea of setting up a motion picture bureau. Highlight films and news reels were produced starting in 1934 until 1967 (after which MLB’s focus shifted to television). It’s largely because of Fonseca that we any film at all from those early years. Among other things, Fonseca was behind the film that caught Jackie Robinson stealing home (in 1955). Fonseca also was behind the motorcycle gimmick that resulted in the conclusion that Bob Feller’s fastball traveled 104 mph.

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    I wonder why this look never caught on:
    http://exhibits.base

    Probably because wasn’t orange and black.
    Otherwise there’s just no good reason it shouldn’t have lasted forever.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
    (rolls eyes)

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”279535″]Timelines to Ponder ….

    Yahoo Sports Headline:

    Boy fractures skull after hit by ball at Cubs game

    Either the poor kid has really, REALLY bad luck, or he fractured his skill WHEN he got hit by that ball. Either way, it’s a sad story. From this point on, all fans at games will wear full body armor (everywhere except the head, so they can still drink beer and watch the game).[/quote]

    Back in the 70s when I was editing a weekly pub about one of the NFL teams, there was a news n’ notes section way in the back of the pub. It was stuff gathered mostly from the UPI sportswire. One week the lead item was the Bears’ team doctor explaining they had successfully amputated the left testicle of Bears DB Virgil Livers after a game injury. So, being a smartass, I wrote a headline that said, “Chicago Doctor Gets Game Ball”.

    No one every said a word about it. No readers, not even the owners of the paper. That’s when I realized NOBODY was reading the damned thing.

  • denis | July 12, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    In the new NHL ’09 video game trailer they show the FLA Panthers wearing their old uniforms.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”279547″]In the new NHL ’09 video game trailer they show the FLA Panthers wearing their old uniforms.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    Good catch, but it’s been discussed before. Appearently that game will have “retro” sweater options, and since Florida doesn’t have many jerseys to choose from, they have that one, too.

  • Max | July 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG,…[/quote]

    Why would Zambrano start the ASG over Brandon Webb, who has 3 more wins and 28 more Ks than Zambrano does. Or Volquez, who has 1 more win, 38 more Ks and a lower ERA than Zambrano does?

    Wishful thinking on your part?

  • MPowers1634 | July 12, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”279535″]Timelines to Ponder ….

    Yahoo Sports Headline:

    Boy fractures skull after hit by ball at Cubs game

    Either the poor kid has really, REALLY bad luck, or he fractured his skill WHEN he got hit by that ball. Either way, it’s a sad story. From this point on, all fans at games will wear full body armor (everywhere except the head, so they can still drink beer and watch the game).[/quote]

    Was this child named Ronnie?

  • MPowers1634 | July 12, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”279540″]hey, can anyone link those VT jerseys that were mentioned a few weeks ago? The one’s that are selling but no one is sure if they are the actual jerseys being worn this season…If you could, link that if you find it!

    Thanks,

    Brandon[/quote]

    Eastbay:
    http://a712.g.akamai...

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    Imagine that. Maybe it’s always been worded this way, but on the (twenty-game-over-.500)Cubs’ website right now, for the star spangled caps, the description now states, “A portion of proceeds from sales will go to the WBV fund”. Is MLB backing down on it’s previous “all proceeds” description?

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”279550″][quote comment=”279535″]Timelines to Ponder ….

    Yahoo Sports Headline:

    Boy fractures skull after hit by ball at Cubs game

    Either the poor kid has really, REALLY bad luck, or he fractured his skill WHEN he got hit by that ball. Either way, it’s a sad story. From this point on, all fans at games will wear full body armor (everywhere except the head, so they can still drink beer and watch the game).[/quote]

    Was this child named Ronnie?[/quote]

    Woo?

  • Walaitis | July 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    On ESPN front page right now (but probably not for long): “Cubs clip Blue Jays with walk off in 11th inning”.

  • Brandon Davis | July 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm |

    I’m watching the Phillies/D-Backs game right now. In the bottom of the fifth, two out, before Randy Johnson gives up a homer to Shane Victorino, the Unit is having issues with his jersey and actually unbuttons the button below the chest logo. Unfortunately, when I pause on the DVR, his hand gets covered by the DVR info. Anybody else able to get a pic?

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 5:41 pm |

    Ah, the days of the Royal & White Rams…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    …and the Kelly & White Eagles…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Mike | July 12, 2008 at 6:11 pm |

    Somewhat off topic, but if anyone’s interested in getting an Expos game worn uniform, they’re selling them at the All Star Fan Fest at the Javitz Center in NYC.

    They’re the pinstripe home whites with Expos in script. I saw a Graeme Lloyd one and was hunting for a Hideki Irabu one as well, but when I saw it buried at the bottom, some guy grabbed it from me and offered the guy $20 more than he was asking for it.

  • Brendan | July 12, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”279557″]Somewhat off topic, but if anyone’s interested in getting an Expos game worn uniform, they’re selling them at the All Star Fan Fest at the Javitz Center in NYC.[/quote]

    They had those at the Fan Fest in SF last year. I really wanted one of the road jerseys, but I didn’t have the $90 they were selling for.

  • Brendan | July 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”279559″][quote comment=”279557″]Somewhat off topic, but if anyone’s interested in getting an Expos game worn uniform, they’re selling them at the All Star Fan Fest at the Javitz Center in NYC.[/quote]

    They had those at the Fan Fest in SF last year. I really wanted one of the road jerseys, but I didn’t have the $90 they were selling for.[/quote]

    Forgot to add: If anyone else will be going to the Fan Fest, could you get that vendor’s info and email it to me (click my name for address)?

  • Brendan | July 12, 2008 at 8:46 pm |

    That didn’t work. This should.

  • Jeff | July 12, 2008 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”279549″][quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG,…[/quote]

    Why would Zambrano start the ASG over Brandon Webb, who has 3 more wins and 28 more Ks than Zambrano does. Or Volquez, who has 1 more win, 38 more Ks and a lower ERA than Zambrano does?

    Wishful thinking on your part?[/quote]

    Because both Webb and Volquez start on Sunday and wouldnt be able to start on Tuesday.

  • Mike Engle | July 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”279559″][quote comment=”279557″]Somewhat off topic, but if anyone’s interested in getting an Expos game worn uniform, they’re selling them at the All Star Fan Fest at the Javitz Center in NYC.[/quote]

    They had those at the Fan Fest in SF last year. I really wanted one of the road jerseys, but I didn’t have the $90 they were selling for.[/quote]
    No fair! I was there yesterday (Fri 11) and didn’t see them. Sh*t!

  • Loren J. | July 12, 2008 at 9:25 pm |

    My Rangers are wearing their Home Whites tonight. :)

    The Rangers have worn their Alternate Blues (Cool Base) all week.

    I get tired of the “Softball tops”. I want to see the Whites more often!

  • Colin | July 12, 2008 at 9:26 pm |

    From the Department of “Not all change is good:”

    Golf club ends 113-year sock rule

    Young punks, wanting to show off their legs. What is the world coming to?

  • Buckeye Mike | July 12, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    Does Anyone have the MLB TV broadcast for tonight’s Tribe/Rays game from FSN Florida? There was a point in the early going where the Ray’s crew was talking about the Tribe’s Alt “Throwbacks”? I know I may be wrong, but are the Tribe’s Unis throwbacks, or just designed to envoke memorys of team of yesteryear? I thought they were like the Phil’s Alts, not TBTCs. Anyway, they did a nice little run down of the history of the Tribe’s Unis, and might be something worth seeing. Go Tribe!

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”279566″]Does Anyone have the MLB TV broadcast for tonight’s Tribe/Rays game from FSN Florida? There was a point in the early going where the Ray’s crew was talking about the Tribe’s Alt “Throwbacks”? I know I may be wrong, but are the Tribe’s Unis throwbacks, or just designed to envoke memorys of team of yesteryear? I thought they were like the Phil’s Alts, not TBTCs. Anyway, they did a nice little run down of the history of the Tribe’s Unis, and might be something worth seeing. Go Tribe![/quote]

    You’re right, they aren’t throwbacks. They’re evocative, and they make a nice set of alternates, especially compared to, oh, say, red vests for the Pirates.

    (And now we’re back where we started today).

  • LarenR | July 12, 2008 at 10:22 pm |

    Watching a Giants/Padres game from Sept. 28, 1987 on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. From the Murph, Pads in white with Brown pinstripes. Giants in classic grays with the rounded SF on the left chest and Wide piping on the legs. And everyone is in stirrups! (some pants are creeping down to the lower shin, and most of the Padres have the stirrups pulled up so all you see are the strips, but still…) Wow.

    Padres:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Giants:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Sorry, no pics.

  • david | July 12, 2008 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”279562″][quote comment=”279549″][quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG,…[/quote]

    Why would Zambrano start the ASG over Brandon Webb, who has 3 more wins and 28 more Ks than Zambrano does. Or Volquez, who has 1 more win, 38 more Ks and a lower ERA than Zambrano does?

    Wishful thinking on your part?[/quote]

    Because both Webb and Volquez start on Sunday and wouldnt be able to start on Tuesday.[/quote]

    Volquez started Tonight and gave up 1 run in 7 innings. Anyhow, Ryan Dempster has a better shot to start the game than Zambrano in my opinion.

  • Ricko | July 12, 2008 at 10:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”279568″]Watching a Giants/Padres game from Sept. 28, 1987 on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. From the Murph, Pads in white with Brown pinstripes. Giants in classic grays with the rounded SF on the left chest and Wide piping on the legs. And everyone is in stirrups! (some pants are creeping down to the lower shin, and most of the Padres have the stirrups pulled up so all you see are the strips, but still…) Wow.

    Padres:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Giants:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Sorry, no pics.[/quote]

    There were a few yeas there when the Giants front office had a team rule about the height of stirrups. Something like 4″ in front and 5″ back. It was during the period when they wore that uniform.

    Those Padre roads were an interesting sort of light brown, of course. Not the tan they wore originally in ’69 or the “sand” they wear now…but it worked well with the brown and orange for an overall “look”…especially compared the Taco set that preceded them.

  • LarenR | July 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”279570″][quote comment=”279568″]Watching a Giants/Padres game from Sept. 28, 1987 on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area. From the Murph, Pads in white with Brown pinstripes. Giants in classic grays with the rounded SF on the left chest and Wide piping on the legs. And everyone is in stirrups! (some pants are creeping down to the lower shin, and most of the Padres have the stirrups pulled up so all you see are the strips, but still…) Wow.

    Padres:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Giants:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Sorry, no pics.[/quote]

    There were a few yeas there when the Giants front office had a team rule about the height of stirrups. Something like 4″ in front and 5″ back. It was during the period when they wore that uniform.

    Those Padre roads were an interesting sort of light brown, of course. Not the tan they wore originally in ’69 or the “sand” they wear now…but it worked well with the brown and orange for an overall “look”…especially compared the Taco set that preceded them.[/quote]

    I don’t know which is best, seeing the old unis (this was the year I was 12 and first really started following the Giants), the old players (Thrill, Candy Maldonado, Chili Davis…), or the crowd shots of 80’s “fashion.”

    So far Jerry Coleman has called John Kruk ” the hillbilly” and favorably compared Mike Aldrete to Tony Gwynn. My wife grew up listening to him in SD, and I’m beginning to understand the affection they have for him down there!

  • derek | July 12, 2008 at 11:39 pm |

    RIP Bobby Murcer, The world just lost one hell of a class act

  • Manzell | July 13, 2008 at 1:07 am |

    athletes with glasses:

    Belgian Heptathlete/High Jumper Tia Hellebaut wears pretty much standard specs while competing:

    http://www.iaaf.org/...

  • Manzell | July 13, 2008 at 1:08 am |
  • Stan aka the took | July 13, 2008 at 1:47 am |

    [quote comment=”279509″]While searching for something else, I came across this page. It’s like a Bizzaro World Uniwatch site.[/quote]

    Wow some of those Mets’s uniforms look like dog diarrhea if that dude had his way and those became the uniforms I don’t know if I am loyal enough to stick with them and the New Jersey Meadowlarks? Seriously!? That website hasn’t been updated in a decade but it’s funny

  • Stan aka the took | July 13, 2008 at 1:51 am |

    [quote comment=”279515″]Are sleeves too much to ask for too? I haven’t talked to a single person who thinks that sleeveless is the better alternative.[/quote]

    OK you got one even if we never talked. I somewhat like the vests only on the Pirates I don’t feel it on any other team.

  • carmenfanzone | July 13, 2008 at 8:19 am |

    [quote comment=”279569″][quote comment=”279562″][quote comment=”279549″][quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG,…[/quote]

    Why would Zambrano start the ASG over Brandon Webb, who has 3 more wins and 28 more Ks than Zambrano does. Or Volquez, who has 1 more win, 38 more Ks and a lower ERA than Zambrano does?

    Wishful thinking on your part?[/quote]

    Because both Webb and Volquez start on Sunday and wouldnt be able to start on Tuesday.[/quote]

    Volquez started Tonight and gave up 1 run in 7 innings. Anyhow, Ryan Dempster has a better shot to start the game than Zambrano in my opinion.[/quote]

    Not gonna happen, Dempster starts on Sunday

  • KT | July 13, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”279549″][quote comment=”279506″]Maybe someone knows the answer, but I was thinking since Carlos Zambrano is probably going to start the ASG,…[/quote]

    Why would Zambrano start the ASG over Brandon Webb, who has 3 more wins and 28 more Ks than Zambrano does. Or Volquez, who has 1 more win, 38 more Ks and a lower ERA than Zambrano does?

    Wishful thinking on your part?[/quote]

    Rotation usually trumps merit in these situations.

    Dempster starts today. Webb starts today. Volquez pitched yesterday.

    It’s not necessarily merit-based. It’s merit-based but also takes into account when a guy last threw and when he’s supposed to throw next.

    I can’t believe you don’t know that.

  • James Craven | July 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”279503″]“First step, get rid of ugly red vests; second step, ?????; third step, win.”[/quote]

    The underwear elves just dropped by. they forced me to change that comment.

    If you do’nt get this joke, you’ll never understand pop culture.

  • Obama | July 14, 2008 at 1:31 am |

    [quote comment=”279565″]From the Department of “Not all change is good:”

    Golf club ends 113-year sock rule

    Young punks, wanting to show off their legs. What is the world coming to?[/quote]

    Another to add to the not all change is good list.

    Obama ’08

  • Mike | July 14, 2008 at 8:18 am |

    [quote comment=”279537″][quote comment=”279515″]Are sleeves too much to ask for too? I haven’t talked to a single person who thinks that sleeveless is the better alternative.[/quote]

    Let me be the first to say I like the sleeveless look. They switched to that look when PNC Park opened as a nod to the 1960 World Series champs. Sure the combination of a 21st century uniform cut and the standard Nike undershirts that typically don’t match well fails to make an authentic 1960’s look, but I still generally like them.[/quote]

    I 100% agree, the sleveless on the Pirates uniforms looks great, certainly in person. The pinstripes look pretty good too, and since they are only on Home Sundays, I can live with them.