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If This Is Some Weird Dominican Custom, Will Someone Please Clue Me In?

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Okay, so I know I’ve been obsessing over buttons quite a bit lately, and I also know some of you think I write too often about the Mets. But this thing with Pedro Martinez has officially crossed over into freaky-deeky territory.

Quickly, the backstory: As many of you are aware, when Pedro made his very abbreviated first start of the year on April 1st in Florida, his second button was unfastened. Two months, two days, and one calf injury later, he returned to the mound in San Francisco — with his second button undone yet again.

Martinez’s third appearance of the year was eight days ago in San Diego. I didn’t watch that game, but he seemed to be fully buttoned, at least judging by this photo. So I chalked up the other two instances to bizarre coincidence and figured that was the end of that.

Pedro returned to the mound yesterday. And guess what returned with him: the phantom second button. Like, whiskey tango foxtrot?!

That got me wondering about Pedro’s previous start — the one in San Diego where the photo had shown him fully buttoned. So last night I checked out some video from that game, and look what I found. As it turns out, Martinez was fully buttoned in the 1st inning but reverted to his new signature style in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th (after which he was removed from the game, presumably for remedial button-fastening lessons).

So Pedro is now four-for-four with this new look of his. Is it some sort of ritualistic superstition? A secret shout-out to Lefty Grove or Leo Durocher? (Pedro is rather lippy, after all.) More to the point, what shall we call this style — a hole-in-two? The jersey unshored? Petey’s problem? Post your suggested terminology in today’s comments and I’ll give a free Uni Watch membership (or, for existing members, a new card design) to the person who comes up with the one I like best.

Something else about Pedro yesterday, by the way: no Father’s Day ribbon. Lots of blue ribbons and armbands elsewhere throughout MLB, though. I don’t know about you, but my prostate feels better already.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Weekend throwback scorecard: Awesome to see the cartoon Oriole cap logo, and even nicer that they went to the trouble of making throwback helmets — except they made them wrong (the white panel should look like this). Interesting to see that they kept the Jim McKay memorial armband. And look — no MLB logo on the back of the jerseys or the caps! … Meanwhile, over in the Bay Area (where the Giants had the MLB mark on jerseys but not on caps), Barry Zito had something poking out of his waistband. I was hoping they’d go with the orange sanitaries, but no such luck. … And in Cleveland, the Indians went with belted pants when an elastic waistband was called for. This was the weekend’s only throwback game featuring both teams in retro attire, as the Padres stuck to their regular batting helmets and used belted pants and radially arched nameplates (with no MLB logo) when they should have gone with striped waistbands and a vertical arch. Major bonus points, however, for including the 1978 All-Star Game patch. Jeff Mouldin was at the game and has dozens of additional pics (including several of Heath Bell’s brown-on-gold stirrups) here. … More on the Padres’ uniforms, from Mike Hersh: “I noticed most of the Padres didn’t like their brown undershirts with the mock-turtleneck collar. Most of the guys looked like they used scissors to cut the neckline. Edgar Gonzalez did the worst job of it. And Edgar’s younger brother, Adrian, decided to say screw it and just wore a white undershirt.” … Want to make your own vintage socks? Okay, you probably don’t, but this piece is still pretty interesting (with thanks to Joe Hilseberg, who also pointed me toward two old-school “base ball” uniform sources, here and here). … “Hens and Hogs Night” in Toledo last Thursday, with the Mud Hens wearing Harley-inspired jerseys (courtesy of Wayne Koehler). … Civil War regiment? Nope — it’s a circa-1900 baseball team. Amazing jackets! (Big thanks to Jim Herrmann.) … Kevin Brotzman notes that this story on Jonathan Ogden’s retirement includes the following passage: “Ogden recalled getting handed a white Ravens baseball cap with black block lettering when his name was announced during the draft. ‘I’m like, “What is this?”‘ he said, drawing hearty laughs from the crowd. ‘We didn’t have colors, we didn’t have logos, we didn’t have nothing. And I remember coming to minicamp and my first rookie card, I got a white helmet on.'” … “One of my friends lives in Austria and his local team is FC Blau Weiss Linz (Blue White Linz), a lower level Austrian team,” writes Chris Cruz. “I was watching a video clip of the team and noticed that although the team was sponsored by ‘Lenze,’ one guy (the captain) was wearing a shirt sponsored by ‘is.'” I’d never seen such a thing before, but apparently it’s not unheard of in Austria for a specific player to have a contract with a different sponsor.” … While searching for something else, I came across this photo of Gaylord Perry. Looks like he cut his collar). … Reprinted from Friday’s comments: The Cubs apparently wanted to use zippered jerseys for last Thursday’s throwback game, but MLB wouldn’t let them — or at least that’s what it says in the bottom-left of this page, which was printed on the inside front cover of the program for Thursday’s game (and was generously scanned and forwarded by Kasey Ignarski). … Steve Sundell reports that NASA has a new spacesuit manufacturer (and no, it’s not Nike). … NPR’s Marketplace program ran an interesting sneaker-history piece the other day. Listen to it here (with thanks to Jonna Pedrioli). … “The Grizzlies ‘celebrated’ Friday the 13th by wearing special jerseys with slash marks across them,” writes Aaron Wiens. “They also all wore the number 13.” … Steve Ashpole reports that Green River Community College has two interesting stirrup designs: Packers-striped (additional view here) and team-monogrammed (additional pics here, here, and here). … The Carolina Mudcats celebrated Rocky Mount Night this week by wearing 1960’s era Rocky Mount Leafs uniforms from the old Carolina League. Lots of pics here. … No photos, but a troubling communiqué from Jeremy Brahm: “I’ve noticed a problem with Nike’s soccer uniforms: They are tearing on the front of jerseys. I’ve attended numerous Portland Timbers games this year and have seen three uniforms tear in front of me, and one during a televised road match. I have seen one of the Nike uniforms at the Euro2008 tournament do the same. The tear happens on the front of the jersey, around the numbers. Maybe it’s because of the numbers are heat-pressed as opposed to being sewn? But then you’d think that the sponsor logo would do the same, but it always seems to be below the sponsor’s logo.” … “I found this page, which details the uniforms worn this past season by the soccer EPL’s latest member, Hull City,” writes Geneva Fox. … Argentina NT and Uruguay NT played a friendly basketball match the other day, and Alejandro Macri (writing all the way from Buenos Aires!) reports that Uruguay used a zero for all sub-10 numbers. Here’s a good view of the Argentine design. … Has MLB always sold sleeve patches online? If so, I wasn’t aware of it, but they’re definitely doing it now (as discovered by Chris Brown). … Gorgeous (but expensive) 1912 baseball equipment catalog available here. … Very odd item here: a raglan-styled vest. Did it originally have full sleeves that were later cut off? Why would you construct a vest with vestigal raglan “sleeves”? … Here’s something I’ve never seen before: a Spalding uniform tape measure. … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Cool little site documenting ice cream sundae helmets here. … Here’s something I hadn’t seen before: a short video clip showing a very young Shaq in his McDonald’s All-American uni (nice find by Dominick Carfello. … I met Gabriel Urist at a party on Friday. He’s a metalsmith who does all sorts of sports-themed jewelryNBA-related, mostly, but he told me he just got an MLB license and will be producing lots of baseball stuff soon (he’ll have a booth at the All-Star Game’s FanFest blowout). His stuff is way too blingy for me, but he struck me as an interesting guy, and I plan to stay in touch with him.

 

151 comments to If This Is Some Weird Dominican Custom, Will Someone Please Clue Me In?

  • Mike | June 16, 2008 at 7:48 am |

    I was at the Pirates-O’s game on Friday and I cannot tell you how disappointed I was the Bucs did not wear any kind of throwback….there was also a pregame ceremony with some of the players from the 1979 World Series (which they were honoring) and of course they wheeled out Earl Weaver (wearing a modern O’s jersey), and also a player (I forget who) who played for both the Pirates and the O’s. They had this guy wear a new Pirates jersey…without giving him a black shirt to wear underneath. It looked pretty hokey to se someone out thre with the vest and a light colored shirt on….oh well.

  • Like the River | June 16, 2008 at 7:52 am |

    http://msn.foxsports...

    I didn’t know if I was watching the USA vs Barbados soccer match or an episode of saved by the bell from like 1994 yesterday. Barbados had the brightest jerseys on. I don’t think I have ever said this but, it looked worse on a Hi-def tv than a normal one.

  • ukben | June 16, 2008 at 7:56 am |

    Nice to see Hull City getting a mention, my home town club finally getting rid of the tag ‘the largest city in europe to have never had a top flight football team!’

    Last seasons kit was ok, much better than this –

    http://homepage.ntlw...

  • Robert | June 16, 2008 at 8:04 am |

    [quote comment=”275707″]I was at the Pirates-O’s game on Friday and I cannot tell you how disappointed I was the Bucs did not wear any kind of throwback….there was also a pregame ceremony with some of the players from the 1979 World Series (which they were honoring) and of course they wheeled out Earl Weaver (wearing a modern O’s jersey), and also a player (I forget who) who played for both the Pirates and the O’s. They had this guy wear a new Pirates jersey…without giving him a black shirt to wear underneath. It looked pretty hokey to se someone out thre with the vest and a light colored shirt on….oh well.[/quote]

    The Pirates probably banned throwbacks at road games since they are bad luck. Randall Simon was wearing such a look when he tapped the sausage in Milwaukee and controversy ensued.

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  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 8:08 am |

    Has MLB always sold sleeve patches online? If so, I wasn’t aware of it, but they’re definitely doing it now

    Pretty sure MLB would sell offical jock straps if they could make a buck…

  • lukejameslarson | June 16, 2008 at 8:21 am |

    during sunday’s tigers-dodgers game, i noticed that one of the dodger’s relievers (either beimel or broxton,(i don’t recall)) had what appeared to be a temporary tattoo of the (non-pabst) blue ribbon on the side of his neck. unfortunately, i cannot find any photos online to verify this.

  • Like the River | June 16, 2008 at 8:22 am |

    Even though my Tribe messed up on the belts it was still amazing to see the old Chief Wahoo logo in the batting stance, I can still remember they had a huge giant one on top of old Municipal Stadium.
    http://www.cleveland...

  • Josh Petty | June 16, 2008 at 8:39 am |

    MLB has sold the patches online for quite a while. I bought the Brewers “M on Wisconsin” patch online 4 years ago. I also bought a friend the Cubs alternate logo (Cub standing in C) patch for his jersey to make it look more authentic 3 years ago.

  • Paul Lukas | June 16, 2008 at 8:50 am |

    [quote comment=”275712″]during sunday’s tigers-dodgers game, i noticed that one of the dodger’s relievers (either beimel or broxton,(i don’t recall)) had what appeared to be a temporary tattoo of the (non-pabst) blue ribbon on the side of his neck. unfortunately, i cannot find any photos online to verify this.[/quote]

    Nothing new. Royals pitcher Brian Anderson did the same thing in 2005, and he even blogged about it:
    http://briananderson...

  • Joe Hilseberg | June 16, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”275707″]I was at the Pirates-O’s game on Friday and I cannot tell you how disappointed I was the Bucs did not wear any kind of throwback….there was also a pregame ceremony with some of the players from the 1979 World Series (which they were honoring) and of course they wheeled out Earl Weaver (wearing a modern O’s jersey), and also a player (I forget who) who played for both the Pirates and the O’s. They had this guy wear a new Pirates jersey…without giving him a black shirt to wear underneath. It looked pretty hokey to se someone out thre with the vest and a light colored shirt on….oh well.[/quote]

    I was also at the game and was pissed off the whole time at those helmets! And by the fact that they didn’t wear the orange pullovers…guess they want to recycle these unis for the 83 TBTC in July.

    2 side notes – Luke Scott went high cuffs for 5 innings then switched to low pants. My buddy took pics for me and has yet to email them. And Earl was wearing the throwback jersey and not the modern one…

    http://www.baltimore...

  • Billy | June 16, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”275707″]I was at the Pirates-O’s game on Friday and I cannot tell you how disappointed I was the Bucs did not wear any kind of throwback….there was also a pregame ceremony with some of the players from the 1979 World Series (which they were honoring) and of course they wheeled out Earl Weaver (wearing a modern O’s jersey), and also a player (I forget who) who played for both the Pirates and the O’s. They had this guy wear a new Pirates jersey…without giving him a black shirt to wear underneath. It looked pretty hokey to se someone out thre with the vest and a light colored shirt on….oh well.[/quote]

    The Orioles excuse was that they were celebrating the ’79 season and their AL Championship, since they lost the WS to the Pirates. That is why they did not have them participate, even though playing them for the first time since then was the inspiration for the event.

    And Earl was in a throw back… http://www.baltimore...

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    bad things always happen whenever randall simon taps the sausage in milwaukee

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Someone mentioned yesterday the problem with the Orioles’ helmet decals could have been in relating that older design to the newer helmets. I won’t pretend to know for sure, but it sounds plausible.

    Oh, and if anyone wants to bitch about the powder blue ribbon temporary tattoos, et al, from MLB’s Father’s Day, please read my post #58 from yesterday.

    And think, really think, about what you’re saying.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 16, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    Very distrubing that the Cubs were forbidden from wearing jerseys with zippers (something that\’s hardly ancient considering that the Phillies had them until around 1990; surely there are many people still in baseball who wore them, such as Larry Bowa).

    Why does the league get to have any say in this matter? It\’s not like the Cubs were doing anything outlandish — they wanted to wear an exact replica of a uniform that they actually once wore on the field. It was OK then, but not now?

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”275720″]Very distrubing that the Cubs were forbidden from wearing jerseys with zippers (something that\’s hardly ancient considering that the Phillies had them until around 1990; surely there are many people still in baseball who wore them, such as Larry Bowa).

    Why does the league get to have any say in this matter? It\’s not like the Cubs were doing anything outlandish — they wanted to wear an exact replica of a uniform that they actually once wore on the field. It was OK then, but not now?[/quote]

    i think mlb also forbade them from not wearing batting helmets too

  • Chris | June 16, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Regarding the Lenze vs. IS soccer kits: All the players have is IS logo on their shorts. While it is strange to have one player with a different jersey, it does not appear to be an individual sponsor.

  • Filthy McNasty | June 16, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    I’ve always preferred to see Hull city in black and amber stripes but the Umbro 07/08 effort was a nice kit and of course it will now be associated with the Wembley game.

    Stripes for 08/09 though, can’t wait.

  • KT | June 16, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    Isn’t it whiskey tango foxtrot?

    http://en.wikipedia....

    Also, the US (and I guess Barbados, couldn’t tell in that mishmash they were wearing) had the World Cup 2010 logo patch on their sleeves, as this was the first match of qualifications.

  • ESS | June 16, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    … Civil War regiment? Nope — it’s a circa-1900 baseball team. Amazing jackets!

    Not only are the jacekts amazing, but check out the glove on the guy at the far right of the front row. Pretty sweet.

  • Paul Lukas | June 16, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”275724″]Isn’t it whiskey tango foxtrot?[/quote]

    Good call. Now fixed.

  • keith | June 16, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Paul-

    Pedro (and the Mets) were without the blues because it was the second game of a double header. The 1 p.m. game featured softball stylings, blue ribbons and blue armbands:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Darren | June 16, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    With regards to the Jim McKay armband, one of the rabid Oriole fans here at work says that Jim McKay was a minority owner. Wouldn’t be surprised if this sticks around for the rest of the year.

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    Photo tribute to Trevor Linden, some good uni goodness.

    http://canucks.nhl.c...

    What was the count of different versions he’s worn for VAN? Like 50?

  • Jared Wheeler | June 16, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    The Pedro Porthole

  • Matt B | June 16, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    Turkey v Czech Rep yesterday: Turkey’s goalie was ejected towards the end and the team had no subs left, so one of the outfielders put his jersey on inside-out and played keeper for a few minutes.

    link

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”275731″]The Pedro Porthole[/quote]

    Button-gate 2008

  • Roger Faso | June 16, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    Pedro unbuttons that button to whip out his crucifix and kiss it.

    I say we call it the Jesus Hole.

  • Ed R. | June 16, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”275707″]I was at the Pirates-O’s game on Friday and I cannot tell you how disappointed I was the Bucs did not wear any kind of throwback….there was also a pregame ceremony with some of the players from the 1979 World Series (which they were honoring) and of course they wheeled out Earl Weaver (wearing a modern O’s jersey), and also a player (I forget who) who played for both the Pirates and the O’s. They had this guy wear a new Pirates jersey…without giving him a black shirt to wear underneath. It looked pretty hokey to se someone out thre with the vest and a light colored shirt on….oh well.[/quote]
    According to this story on the Pirates website the team only found out about the O’s wearing throwbacks through a news story and were never asked to participate.

  • eric | June 16, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    The second button literally makes or breaks the shirt. Look at your button, Pedro, It’s in no man’s land….

  • Duckstyle | June 16, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”275708″]http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/pgStory?contentId=8248614#sport=USA&photo=8248616

    I didn’t know if I was watching the USA vs Barbados soccer match or an episode of saved by the bell from like 1994 yesterday. Barbados had the brightest jerseys on. I don’t think I have ever said this but, it looked worse on a Hi-def tv than a normal one.[/quote]

    The biggest problem wasn’t colors, they are the colors of the country so changing them wouldn’t be right, or even the uni’s template. It was how huge all of the jerseys were. A strange look indeed. But I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?

  • eric | June 16, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    The No Dos?

    El Ojo de Ciguapa?

    The Coronary Bypass?

  • floormaster squeeze | June 16, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    Gap for Kids!

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 16, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”275733″][quote comment=”275731″]The Pedro Porthole[/quote]

    Button-gate 2008[/quote]

    Two for the show!

  • floormaster squeeze | June 16, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    Wiesbaden (Germany) is the largest city in Europe never to have had a team in top-flight football. So sayeth Hull City’s own website:

    http://www.hullcityo...

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”275739″]El Ojo de Ciguapa?[/quote]

    according to the link:

    [quote]They say that if you do come across a Ciguapa and look into its eyes, she will bewitch you and you forever will be under her power. The legend also says that ciguapas used to seduce men to have sex with them and then kill them.[/quote]

    interesting…in the states, we call that marriage

  • Joe O. | June 16, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    It has nothing to do with the column…and it may be a “uniform” stretch…but at the US Open Playoffs (a full 18 holes today) Tiger and Rocco are wearing nearly identical “uniforms.”

    Both have black pants, red shirt, black vest, and black hat.

    Of course Tigers has the swoosh on every bit and Roccos has other sponsers…

  • rc | June 16, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”275738″][quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?[/quote]

    1. Maybe they are trying to promote a local apparel maker? They are not going to get to the world cup finals, so there is not a big chance of world wide exposure, therefore it does not make sense for one of the goliaths to sponsor them. Most of thier games are against other small island nations, that have thier own brands. So it seems that a local supplier woudl benefit much more in this situation.

    2. Shouldn’t we congratulate Barbados for not “selling out” to Nike / Adidas / Puma / Umbro? They were not the best looking uniforms, but they displayed the national colors, and they looked like a team. I am sure if and when they do get adidas / nike unifoms, we will tear the design to shreds, and count how many logos we can see…

  • Duckstyle | June 16, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”275738″][quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?[/quote]

    I was pretty surprised too. They’re playing 2 ESPN televised games against the US, and no big company thought to spend the thousand bucks to set them up with well fitting kits. I spent have the game tryingto figure out what brand the uni’s were. Although some people here think that me not finding a brand logo is a good thing, I personally don’t care to much, maybe 2 per uni…..but that’s another issue all together.

  • Alejandro | June 16, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    Regarding the Argentina-Uruguay match, they played again the next day, with different unis. Uruguayans’ jerseys are tricky: white numbers on white jerseys.

    http://www.chacobask...

    http://www.chacobask...

  • Dan King | June 16, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”275738″][quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?[/quote]
    yeah, but how much exposure would they get? you’ll see barbados one more time and then they’ll be gone the next four years. and i don’t think they play that many games. so costs outweigh the benefits.

  • Duckstyle | June 16, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”275745″][quote comment=”275738″][quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?[/quote]

    1. Maybe they are trying to promote a local apparel maker? They are not going to get to the world cup finals, so there is not a big chance of world wide exposure, therefore it does not make sense for one of the goliaths to sponsor them. Most of thier games are against other small island nations, that have thier own brands. So it seems that a local supplier woudl benefit much more in this situation.

    2. Shouldn’t we congratulate Barbados for not “selling out” to Nike / Adidas / Puma / Umbro? They were not the best looking uniforms, but they displayed the national colors, and they looked like a team. I am sure if and when they do get adidas / nike unifoms, we will tear the design to shreds, and count how many logos we can see…[/quote]

    I’m all for local guys getting the money over the sports “giants”. But, at the same time, I’m sure the team would have loved to get some free, expensive uni’s for once. They mentioned several times during the telecast that many of the starting players have full-time jobs and that playing soccer was more of a hobby as they have no league in Barbados, and this might well be the biggest game they ever play in. But who knows, maybe the huge jersey look is all the rage there, and I’m pitching a fit over nothing. I’ve been wrong before, I just don’t keep track of those times.

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”275747″]Regarding the Argentina-Uruguay match, they played again the next day, with different unis. Uruguayans’ jerseys are tricky: white numbers on white jerseys.

    http://www.chacobask...

    http://www.chacobask...

    What the hell kind of net are they using in that first picture?

  • Duckstyle | June 16, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”275748″][quote comment=”275738″][quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?[/quote]
    yeah, but how much exposure would they get? you’ll see barbados one more time and then they’ll be gone the next four years. and i don’t think they play that many games. so costs outweigh the benefits.[/quote]

    It’s like doing two 90 mintute commercials, that’s some big advertising dough, isn’t it?[quote comment=”275748″][quote comment=”275738″][quote comment=”275737″]I’m sure a lot of that is due to their extermly low national team budget, and having to go to cheap local suppliers.[/quote]

    question about that…wouldn’t one of the giants in the ‘industry,’ say…something with 3 stripes…basically MAKE their unis for them in exchange for the exposure? in this day and age, you’d think someone would be all over sponsoring (for lack of a better term) a team like barbados just because they could

    no?[/quote]
    yeah, but how much exposure would they get? you’ll see barbados one more time and then they’ll be gone the next four years. and i don’t think they play that many games. so costs outweigh the benefits.[/quote]

    Kramer: It’s a writeoff for them.
    Jerry: How is it a writeoff?
    Kramer: They just write it off.
    Jerry: Write it off what?
    Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.
    Jerry: You don’t even know what a writeoff is.
    Kramer: Do you?
    Jerry: No. I Don’t.
    Kramer: But they do. And they’re the ones writing it off.
    Jerry: …I wish I could have the last 20 seconds of my life back

  • Chesky Bevo | June 16, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    Hey Paul,
    In your first link in the Ticker portion of today’s column, doesn’t that Orioles pitcher have his second button undone?

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”275752″]Hey Paul,
    In your first link in the Ticker portion of today’s column, doesn’t that Orioles pitcher have his second button undone?[/quote]

    It’s spreading like the plague…

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”275753″][quote comment=”275752″]Hey Paul,
    In your first link in the Ticker portion of today’s column, doesn’t that Orioles pitcher have his second button undone?[/quote]

    It’s spreading like the plague…[/quote]

    The Bu-ttonic Plague

  • Cathy | June 16, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    Rumor on a blog site says that my old college, George Mason is goint to NIKE SOD this coming basketball season. http://bp1.blogger.c...

  • Roger Faso | June 16, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    buttonotomy

  • Alejandro | June 16, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=\”275751\”][quote comment=\”275748\”]you\’ll see barbados one more time and then they\’ll be gone the next four years. and i don\’t think they play that many games. so costs outweigh the benefits.[/quote]

    It\’s like doing two 90 mintute commercials, that\’s some big advertising dough, isn\’t it?[/quote]
    Still, I don\’t think a major brand like adidas wants its image to be publicly linked to a team like Barbados, right? That\’s a reason big companies always try to sponsor winners, or at least decent teams. If Barbados loses 8-0, it\’s also adidas losing 8-0.

    [quote comment=\”275750\”][quote comment=\”275747\”]Regarding the Argentina-Uruguay match, they played again the next day, with different unis. Uruguayans\’ jerseys are tricky: white numbers on white jerseys.

    http://www.chacobask...

    http://www.chacobask...

    What the hell kind of net are they using in that first picture?[/quote]
    Don\’t know… it\’s probably because the games were played in a stadium that is more like a school gym with some stands.

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”275755″]Rumor on a blog site says that my old college, George Mason is goint to NIKE SOD this coming basketball season. http://bp1.blogger.c...

    Why don’t they just go ahead and wear bloomers?

    (Jeez, I’m starting to come off like “Crankshaft” here…the old guy bitching about, “Yeah, well Ty Cobb managed to get four thousand hits without having to have STRIPES on his shoes!”)

    I’m not as grumpy or locked-in-the-past as I sound. I don’t advocate a return to shorts that make players look their auditioning for a Nair commerical, but that uni—-the cut of the lovely girls basketball circa 1949 skirt, not the colors, etc.—-really does look stupid.

    The “Manny in His Jammies” look comes to George Mason basketball.

    Not to mention they make that guy look about 5’4″.

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”275758″][quote comment=”275755″]Rumor on a blog site says that my old college, George Mason is goint to NIKE SOD this coming basketball season. http://bp1.blogger.c...

    Why don’t they just go ahead and wear bloomers?

    (Jeez, I’m starting to come off like “Crankshaft” here…the old guy bitching about, “Yeah, well Ty Cobb managed to get four thousand hits without having to have STRIPES on his shoes!”)

    I’m not as grumpy or locked-in-the-past as I sound. I don’t advocate a return to shorts that make players look their auditioning for a Nair commerical, but that uni—-the cut of the lovely girls basketball circa 1949 skirt, not the colors, etc.—-really does look stupid.

    The “Manny in His Jammies” look comes to George Mason basketball.

    Not to mention they make that guy look about 5’4″.[/quote]

    Since when did basketball players start wearing Man-capris?

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 16, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    I was at the draft in ’96 when Ogden was drafted; the Ravens did not have a uniform or logo yet. The signage at the MSG Theatre had a plain rectangular navy blue and white logo, with BALTIMORE above RAVENS in sans-serif lettering, the former blue-on-white and the latter white-on-blue. They started training camp that year without uniforms and logos as well; they wore plain navy and white jerseys, and white helmets with a single navy stripe. One of their players, I can’t remember who, was quoted as saying, “We’ve out-Penn-Stated Penn State.”

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    i LOVE…LOVE LOVE LOVE…the SOD tops…

    the pantaloons…meh…like ricko, im certainly not looking for this…but, if you’re going to have that awesomely fitting top…shouldn’t the pants at least not be the polar opposite?

    ——-

    on an unrelated note…this is teh funny

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote]One of their players, I can’t remember who, was quoted as saying, “We’ve out-Penn-Stated Penn State.”[/quote]

    marty met?

  • Matt | June 16, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    Maybe the new Pedro Phenomenon could be termed P-5 for “Pedro’s Perpetually Paul Perturbing Placket.”

  • noelamezquita | June 16, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    i think i remember seeing k-rod missing a second button against the a’s last week…..

  • Philly William | June 16, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    The Duplet Eyelet

  • Ronnie Poore | June 16, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    Zito has a bit of drawstring peaking out above the wasteband. look carefully and you’ll see a ridge running through the middle white stripe of the band. that’s the drawstring channel. lot’s of double-snap elastic wasteband uni pants have the drawstring for insurance in case something causes the snaps to pop open (head-first slide,etc)

  • eric | June 16, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    The Missing Link?

  • Jason | June 16, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”275766″]Zito has a bit of drawstring peaking out above the wasteband. look carefully and you’ll see a ridge running through the middle white stripe of the band. that’s the drawstring channel. lot’s of double-snap elastic wasteband uni pants have the drawstring for insurance in case something causes the snaps to pop open (head-first slide,etc)[/quote]

    Also, the drawstring holds the pants securely in position where you want them around your hips/waist, because it doesn’t give when you move. If you rely on the waistband itself for that, you get a waistband so tight that everyone starts looking like Tommy Lasorda.

    And not just for sansabelts. I have a pair of current Braves home pants and, even with belt loops, they still have a drawstring…so you don’t have to cinch the belt so tight you can’t breathe.

    In additon to the drawstring, most times you can tell the best of the pro model sansabelt pants because they have three snaps at the waist. The retail versions almost all had just two.

  • Kevin | June 16, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    Button naming: “Two-down-one-to-go”

  • Frank Mercogliano | June 16, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    The Pedro Principle….

    Frank

  • Kenny | June 16, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”275761″]

    on an unrelated note…this is teh funny[/quote]

    Love that picture – as well as these two:

    http://smith.mn/nbas...

    http://cache.viewima...

  • eric | June 16, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    Those strike me all as supremely awful.

  • Marty Met | June 16, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    The Nets are not going to move. I\’d bet the farm they end up playing at the Rock in Newark.

  • Minna H. | June 16, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    Ok. Without reading everything (I know, mortal sin), I proffer this: The Twins were wearing eye blue for yesterday’s game. I couldn’t get a good screen grab of it, and I can’t find a pic on-line, but I think it was part of the cancer-prevention promotion thing. If anybody knows differently, please enlighten me.

    Oh, and Rocco Mediate is wearing red and black today–just like Tiger!

  • Robert | June 16, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”275773″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    Those strike me all as supremely awful.[/quote]

    “Brooklyn Ironclads” – Cool name. The logos would need some work, though.

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”275775″]Ok. Without reading everything (I know, mortal sin), I proffer this: The Twins were wearing eye blue for yesterday’s game. I couldn’t get a good screen grab of it, and I can’t find a pic on-line, but I think it was part of the cancer-prevention promotion thing. If anybody knows differently, please enlighten me.

    Oh, and Rocco Mediate is wearing red and black today–just like Tiger![/quote]

    Yup, “eye blue” was part of Cancer Awareness. Other teams have done that on past Father’s Days, too. Don’t remember precisely which teams, though.

  • Ben | June 16, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    Here’s a picture of a bullfighter (rodeo clown) wearing the fake stirrups.

    http://www.robsmets....

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    Tiger Woods looks like he’s wearing the same clothes as yesterday… it’d be funny if they were the exact ones, for good luck.

  • Kenny | June 16, 2008 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”275776″][quote comment=”275773″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    Those strike me all as supremely awful.[/quote]

    “Brooklyn Ironclads” – Cool name. The logos would need some work, though.[/quote]

    I like the uni he came up with for the Bishops, except i would have added the blue/gray checkerboard pattern on the shorts – and i’m not a fan of the name “Bishops” for a NBA squad

    Maybe the color-scheme and name for the Royals would work with the Bishops design

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”275774″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    The Nets are not going to move. I\’d bet the farm they end up playing at the Rock in Newark.[/quote]

    hence the “new” name…for an as-yet-to-be-determined franchise

    otherwise they would be using this

  • Duckstyle | June 16, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...
    I don’t know why, but prototype stuff like this is some of my absolute favorite stuff that gets posted here. I’ve always loved speculating about logo and uni designs, and also because I can’t draw anything better than stick figures, so I’ve got respect for the artists involved. That being said, like others mentioned, I can’t imagine, move or not, that they’d stop being called the Nets. Classic examples being the Lakers in LA and the Jazz in Utah. If those region specific names didn’t change, than the NEts certainly isn’t.

  • Ryan | June 16, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    JERSEY INFO NEEDED!
    Hi. I emailed Paul to see if he might know who knew this info I was searching for. He suggested I post the questions…
    1995 Carolina Panthers patch. One version said Inaugural Season, another version said Inaugural Season Clemson University. When was the Clemson version used? (and is the Clemson version hard to find?)
    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed?
    1996-97 Sonics throwback jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed? Also, I’m looking for pics of the players wearing these uniforms, specifically Shawn Kemp.
    1994 Georgetown warm up shirt, with all-over African print and HOYAS across the front. I’m trying to find out how these were customized for the players… number, name, or both? And what colors?
    Thanks for your help!

  • Marty Met | June 16, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”275781″][quote comment=”275774″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    The Nets are not going to move. I\’d bet the farm they end up playing at the Rock in Newark.[/quote]

    hence the “new” name…for an as-yet-to-be-determined franchise

    otherwise they would be using this[/quote]

    But Brooklyn’s not going to get any franchise. Ratner will never get the arena built.

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”275783″]JERSEY INFO NEEDED!
    Hi. I emailed Paul to see if he might know who knew this info I was searching for. He suggested I post the questions…
    1995 Carolina Panthers patch. One version said Inaugural Season, another version said Inaugural Season Clemson University. When was the Clemson version used? (and is the Clemson version hard to find?)
    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed?
    1996-97 Sonics throwback jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed? Also, I’m looking for pics of the players wearing these uniforms, specifically Shawn Kemp.
    1994 Georgetown warm up shirt, with all-over African print and HOYAS across the front. I’m trying to find out how these were customized for the players… number, name, or both? And what colors?
    Thanks for your help![/quote]

    What dates did the sonics wear throwbacks?

  • MPowers1634 | June 16, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”275784″][quote comment=”275781″][quote comment=”275774″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    The Nets are not going to move. I\’d bet the farm they end up playing at the Rock in Newark.[/quote]

    hence the “new” name…for an as-yet-to-be-determined franchise

    otherwise they would be using this[/quote]

    But Brooklyn’s not going to get any franchise. Ratner will never get the arena built.[/quote]

    http://www.circuitbo...

    Would this be a version of the metroscript font that was posted last week?

  • Jim | June 16, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”275783″]JERSEY INFO NEEDED!
    Hi. I emailed Paul to see if he might know who knew this info I was searching for. He suggested I post the questions…
    1995 Carolina Panthers patch. One version said Inaugural Season, another version said Inaugural Season Clemson University. When was the Clemson version used? (and is the Clemson version hard to find?)
    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed?
    1996-97 Sonics throwback jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed? Also, I’m looking for pics of the players wearing these uniforms, specifically Shawn Kemp.
    1994 Georgetown warm up shirt, with all-over African print and HOYAS across the front. I’m trying to find out how these were customized for the players… number, name, or both? And what colors?
    Thanks for your help![/quote]

    Olympic jersey:

    Looks screen printed

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|286696%2c286677%2c286680%2c71666326%2c72325841%2c72340552%2c79096883%2c71666323%2c72342217%2c72308089%2c220880%2c220927%2c221066%2c220801%2c71666324%2c220421%2c221831%2c222325%2c71824239%2c222382%2c336340%2c79096881%2c71824244%2c222261%2c221873%2c222090%2c222118%2c72342251%2c72562127%2c71824247%2c72564669%2c72567856%2c72527382%2c71815785%2c72495367%2c72497627%2c79096841%2c71815754%2c72502046%2c72568089%2c72575876%2c72494581%2c72375593%2c72378575%2c71815780%2c72390065%2c72363117%2c72342768%2c71815784%2c72350730%2c72359217%2c79096821%2c71824250%2c72392292%2c72479909%2c72483985%2c72484878%2c72477140%2c72440519%2c71824252|0&id=72340552

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|286696%2c286677%2c286680%2c71666326%2c72325841%2c72340552%2c79096883%2c71666323%2c72342217%2c72308089%2c220880%2c220927%2c221066%2c220801%2c71666324%2c220421%2c221831%2c222325%2c71824239%2c222382%2c336340%2c79096881%2c71824244%2c222261%2c221873%2c222090%2c222118%2c72342251%2c72562127%2c71824247%2c72564669%2c72567856%2c72527382%2c71815785%2c72495367%2c72497627%2c79096841%2c71815754%2c72502046%2c72568089%2c72575876%2c72494581%2c72375593%2c72378575%2c71815780%2c72390065%2c72363117%2c72342768%2c71815784%2c72350730%2c72359217%2c79096821%2c71824250%2c72392292%2c72479909%2c72483985%2c72484878%2c72477140%2c72440519%2c71824252|0&id=222382

  • eric | June 16, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”275786″][quote comment=”275784″][quote comment=”275781″][quote comment=”275774″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    The Nets are not going to move. I\’d bet the farm they end up playing at the Rock in Newark.[/quote]

    hence the “new” name…for an as-yet-to-be-determined franchise

    otherwise they would be using this[/quote]

    But Brooklyn’s not going to get any franchise. Ratner will never get the arena built.[/quote]

    http://www.circuitbo...

    Would this be a version of the metroscript font that was posted last week?[/quote]

    No. This is Metroscript.

    That looks like Deftone Stylus.

  • Original Jim | June 16, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    That was an unofficial contest run and participated by a group of graphic designers a few years ago. Nothing more than for fun.

    The Chiefs entry was mine. Looking back, there’s so much about it that I would have done differently.

  • Walaitis | June 16, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”275781″][quote comment=”275774″][quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    The Nets are not going to move. I\’d bet the farm they end up playing at the Rock in Newark.[/quote]

    hence the “new” name…for an as-yet-to-be-determined franchise

    otherwise they would be using this[/quote]

    You don’t think the Boston Bruins would have anything to say about the “Aces” Tertiary and “Fusion” Secondary logos, do you?

  • GregHolt | June 16, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    First glimpse of Michigan’s Adidas home football uniforms. Unfortunately, they were used at the women’s football clinic last weekend.

    http://bp3.blogger.c...

    First post. Hope it works.

  • LarenR | June 16, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”275768″]I just found this page full of possible uniforms, logos, names, for a Brooklyn-based NBA team…

    http://www.circuitbo...

    Maybe I just need to get my mind out of the gutter, but that Bishops logo seems pretty phallic to me. But then, hey, phallic can be phun!

  • Timothy B | June 16, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    Little OT as far as Uni’s and what-not go, but, it could be somewhat related. With Interleague play going on right now, when I see the NL teams vs the AL teams, it makes me play a little game and I try to think back to trades the teams have made between each other. (i.e.- Mets/Angels- Nolan Ryan, Don Rose, Leroy Stanton and Frank Estrada to Angels for Jim Fregosi- 1971) When it was Mets/Rangers, I came up with Gene Clines for Joe Lovitto, not sure of the year. Tomorrow night it’s Pirates @ White Sox- that brings back memories of Richie Zisk and Silvio Martinez to the White Sox for Rich Gossage and Terry Forster, 1976 I believe.

    Just something I do when I see Al/NL teams matched up.

  • GregHolt | June 16, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    Another shot of a woman in the Michigan Adidas uni.

    http://freep.com/app...

  • ukben | June 16, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”275742″]Wiesbaden (Germany) is the largest city in Europe never to have had a team in top-flight football. So sayeth Hull City’s own website:

    http://www.hullcityo...

    Well you learn something new everyday! Lived there for 19 years and always belived that ‘fact’!

    Filthy McNasty – you from Hull? or East York anyways?

  • KT | June 16, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    IF adidas or Nike or Umbro or somebody was trying to move product or thought Barbados was an emerging market, they might be convinced to outfit that national team. But, let’s be honest here: big companies don’t usually do stuff out of the goodness of their hearts, and when they do, they plant trees and stuff because it looks better to more people and doesn’t require they give their core product out for free.

    Barbados has been advertising on their website for players. They’re not worth the trouble, quite frankly (no matter how little trouble you or I think it would be).

    Sure, Barbados would love to have nice, free kit. But I doubt seriously they’re as worried about how they look as you are.

    And business is still business. As much as we’d all like to believe that benevolence rules the day, it doesn’t. There’d have to be something in it for Nike or adidas to have Barbados wearing their uniforms on two TV games (the second of which NOBODY is going to watch) every World Cup cycle.

    They’d get more out of outfitting a youth club or something than the National Team of Barbados.

  • KT | June 16, 2008 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”275751″]
    It’s like doing two 90 mintute commercials, that’s some big advertising dough, isn’t it?[/quote]

    If you presume that it’s really “like” doing two 90-minute commercials.

    As if the tiny manufacturers logo on a multi-colored kit that you can only see on a closeup is REALLY like 180 minutes of sheer product-pushing.

  • James Craven | June 16, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”275718″]“Bad things ALWAYS happen whenever Randall Simon taps the sausage in Milwaukee.”[/quote]

    Ladies and gentlemen, please hold your calls. WE HAVE A WIENER IN THE DOUBLE ENTENDRE DU JOUR contest!

  • Stephen | June 16, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    Well, for the Pedro Connection Conundrum, we could go with:

    Petey’s Pearl PortChest Ventor, my personal favorite: The PFD (Pedro Fastener Disaster)

    ~E~

  • Stephen | June 16, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    well, my formatting crapped out on my previous post. I’ll try it again:
    Petey’s Pearl Port
    Chest Vent
    The PFD (Pedro Fastener Disaster)

    ~E~

  • Walaitis | June 16, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”275800″]well, my formatting crapped out on my previous post. I’ll try it again:
    Petey’s Pearl Port
    Chest Vent
    The PFD (Pedro Fastener Disaster)

    ~E~[/quote]

    I think Paul’s definitely touched a button with this one.

  • Walaitis | June 16, 2008 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”275801″][quote comment=”275800″]well, my formatting crapped out on my previous post. I’ll try it again:
    Petey’s Pearl Port
    Chest Vent
    The PFD (Pedro Fastener Disaster)

    ~E~[/quote]

    I think Paul’s definitely touched a button with this one.[/quote]

    But as long as we’re going there:

    Don’t Stick Your Button Where It Doesn’t Belong

  • Brian Erni | June 16, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    I don’t thin anyone has posted this yet, but after reading the article, the reason Pedro’s ribbon is missing is because the Mets played a doubleheader on Sunday because of Saturday’s rainout The Mets and Rangers were both equipped with ribbons for Game 1 on their alternate black and blue jerseys. Then, in Game 2, the Mets went to their alternate whites (they never wear the same uniform for both ends of a doubleheader like most MLB teams) and I’m assuming that was the jersey they were going to wear Saturday and thus the whole team didn’t have the ribbon.

  • Ryan | June 16, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”275785″][quote comment=”275783″]JERSEY INFO NEEDED!
    Hi. I emailed Paul to see if he might know who knew this info I was searching for. He suggested I post the questions…
    1995 Carolina Panthers patch. One version said Inaugural Season, another version said Inaugural Season Clemson University. When was the Clemson version used? (and is the Clemson version hard to find?)
    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed?
    1996-97 Sonics throwback jerseys. Were the name & numbers sewn or screen printed? Also, I’m looking for pics of the players wearing these uniforms, specifically Shawn Kemp.
    1994 Georgetown warm up shirt, with all-over African print and HOYAS across the front. I’m trying to find out how these were customized for the players… number, name, or both? And what colors?
    Thanks for your help![/quote]

    What dates did the sonics wear throwbacks?[/quote]

    No clue. I searched Getty Images and found nothing.

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”275798″][quote comment=”275718″]“Bad things ALWAYS happen whenever Randall Simon taps the sausage in Milwaukee.”[/quote]

    Ladies and gentlemen, please hold your calls. WE HAVE A WIENER IN THE DOUBLE ENTENDRE DU JOUR contest![/quote]

    block head

  • Duckstyle | June 16, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”275797″][quote comment=”275751″]
    It’s like doing two 90 mintute commercials, that’s some big advertising dough, isn’t it?[/quote]

    If you presume that it’s really “like” doing two 90-minute commercials.

    As if the tiny manufacturers logo on a multi-colored kit that you can only see on a closeup is REALLY like 180 minutes of sheer product-pushing.[/quote]

    No, but it’s still gotta be better bang for the buck than normal commercials. I can’t cost more than a couple thousand to outfit a team, right? Granted, I’m pulling these numbers out of a bum bum.

  • James Craven | June 16, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    four down from euro 2008 in the puma shit. one to go…only italy remains in the excuse for puma kits.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 16, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    Here is a picture of the Clemson decal for the Carolina Panthers.
    Picture

    I would guess just in the first year because it says inaugural season on the patch.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 16, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    Carolina Panthers picture

  • James Craven | June 16, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”275805″]“Block head.”[/quote]

    When it comes to sexual inuendo, LI PHIL DOESN’T GET IT!(TM)

  • Paul Lukas | June 16, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”275809″]Carolina Panthers picture[/quote]

    Jeremy can’t link to the photo for some reason, so he forwarded the link to me. Here:
    http://i206.photobuc...

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”275810″][quote comment=”275805″]“Block head.”[/quote]

    When it comes to sexual inuendo, LI PHIL DOESN’T GET IT!(TM)[/quote]

    or does he

    think james

  • Juan Grande | June 16, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”275808″]Here is a picture of the Clemson decal for the Carolina Panthers.
    Picture

    I would guess just in the first year because it says inaugural season on the patch.[/quote]

    The Panthers only played for one season (their inaugural season) in Clemson before moving home to Charlotte and Bank of America (previously known as Ericcson) Stadium for the 1996 season.

  • KT | June 16, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”275806″][quote comment=”275797″][quote comment=”275751″]
    It’s like doing two 90 mintute commercials, that’s some big advertising dough, isn’t it?[/quote]

    If you presume that it’s really “like” doing two 90-minute commercials.

    As if the tiny manufacturers logo on a multi-colored kit that you can only see on a closeup is REALLY like 180 minutes of sheer product-pushing.[/quote]

    No, but it’s still gotta be better bang for the buck than normal commercials. I can’t cost more than a couple thousand to outfit a team, right? Granted, I’m pulling these numbers out of a bum bum.[/quote]

    There has to be bang.

    I’m not saying there’s not low bucks involved.

    I just don’t think there’s a bang for those bucks.

    Not all exposure is necessarily profitable exposure. At best, I would think this would just be neutral. Because nobody gives a rat’s ass about Bermuda OR their national team, and everybody turned the game off when it was 3-0, much less 5-0 and 8-0.

    Just because you can afford to do something doesn’t necessarily mean it’s more beneficial to your business than just throwing said couple grand in the street.

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”275814″][quote comment=”275806″][quote comment=”275797″][quote comment=”275751″]
    It’s like doing two 90 mintute commercials, that’s some big advertising dough, isn’t it?[/quote]

    If you presume that it’s really “like” doing two 90-minute commercials.

    As if the tiny manufacturers logo on a multi-colored kit that you can only see on a closeup is REALLY like 180 minutes of sheer product-pushing.[/quote]

    No, but it’s still gotta be better bang for the buck than normal commercials. I can’t cost more than a couple thousand to outfit a team, right? Granted, I’m pulling these numbers out of a bum bum.[/quote]

    There has to be bang.

    I’m not saying there’s not low bucks involved.

    I just don’t think there’s a bang for those bucks.

    Not all exposure is necessarily profitable exposure. At best, I would think this would just be neutral. Because nobody gives a rat’s ass about Bermuda OR their national team, and everybody turned the game off when it was 3-0, much less 5-0 and 8-0.

    Just because you can afford to do something doesn’t necessarily mean it’s more beneficial to your business than just throwing said couple grand in the street.[/quote]

    ah…but…

    what if swoosh made them SO GARISH that they’d have some instant street cred here? maybe, make a lil marketing campaign around the team…make a couple commercials on teh cheap, and plug the shit out of the ‘underdog barbadasses’ or something?

    just score

    you’ve instantly created a demand for a product that never existed before because nobody gave a shit…have fitty or someone start wearing said kit top to some gallery opening or something

    i like the colors…now mr. knight…turn it into something with a biggass swoosh

    i think it’d move

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    Egad! How to get your young kid interested in becoming a catcher: Tell he gets to dress like an Imperial Stormtrooper.

    http://www.dotphoto....

  • Scott L | June 16, 2008 at 5:56 pm |

    2nd button undone: Two down, one to go.

  • Billy Suter | June 16, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”275707″]and also a player (I forget who) who played for both the Pirates and the O’s.[/quote]

    Grant Jackson, maybe? He played on the O’s team that lost the World Series (to the Pirates, oddly enough) in 1971, and he was on the Pirates when they won the Series in ’79.

  • Jet | June 16, 2008 at 6:09 pm |

    I’m drooling over the gold/brown Padres threads, they were my favorite back in the day. The Oriole caps and stirrups looked mighty sweet as well.

    Now if only companies would make these throwbacks in COTTON instead of $%&@! POLYESTER!!

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”275819″]I’m drooling over the gold/brown Padres threads, they were my favorite back in the day. The Oriole caps and stirrups looked mighty sweet as well.

    Now if only companies would make these throwbacks in COTTON instead of $%&@! POLYESTER!![/quote]

    Good bet anything after 1971 WAS polyester.

  • James Craven | June 16, 2008 at 7:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”275819″]“Now if only companies would make these throwbacks in COTTON instead of $%&@! POLYESTER!!”[/quote]

    Dream on, George Constanza…

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 7:20 pm |

    it’s their uniforms, they’re too tight…they’ve shrunk…they’re running like penguins…

    forget this game

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 7:24 pm |

    Here you go. Anyone wanna outfit a softball team like the 70s Cardinals or (kinda) Indians or Twins? Indians and Twins waist striping was red-white-navy top to bottom.

    Apparently from Mitchell & Ness, too.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Johnny | June 16, 2008 at 7:56 pm |

    Obviously, Pedro is uncomfortable playing with anything stuck in his #2 hole.

    Bu-dum-bum.

  • C.N. | June 16, 2008 at 7:59 pm |

    Phillies are wearing solid red hats against the BoSox. Have they phased out the blue-billed interleague hats? (Too lazy to check all the comments from the past two weeks.)

  • Mike Engle | June 16, 2008 at 8:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”275825″]Phillies are wearing solid red hats against the BoSox. Have they phased out the blue-billed interleague hats? (Too lazy to check all the comments from the past two weeks.)[/quote]
    Yes.
    The hats that were used for regular-season inter-league games (red, blue brim, blue star for the hole of P) are on hiatus. Instead, it is the standard all-red hat with the candy-cane home whites and road grays; the blue hat with red brim and white-outlined red P with the solid cream home alts. No crossing over. Yet.

  • Ryan | June 16, 2008 at 8:22 pm |

    RE: Carolina Panthers patch
    There were 2 versions used in 1995. I’m trying to find out when each were used… such as, was the Clemson version used in the pre-season, home opener, etc.

    1st version:
    Top orange band: Inaugural
    Bottom: Season

    2nd version:
    Top: Inaugural Season
    Bottom: Clemson University

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 8:23 pm |

    what the hell happened to the philly outfield?

    looks like a volcano done blow up 3 mile island

  • jon | June 16, 2008 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”275801″][quote comment=”275800″]well, my formatting crapped out on my previous post. I’ll try it again:
    Petey’s Pearl Port
    Chest Vent
    The PFD (Pedro Fastener Disaster)

    ~E~[/quote]

    I think Paul’s definitely touched a button with this one.[/quote]

    ugh…

  • Mike Engle | June 16, 2008 at 8:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”275829″][quote comment=”275801″][quote comment=”275800″]well, my formatting crapped out on my previous post. I’ll try it again:
    Petey’s Pearl Port
    Chest Vent
    The PFD (Pedro Fastener Disaster)

    ~E~[/quote]

    I think Paul’s definitely touched a button with this one.[/quote]

    ugh…[/quote]
    From the Gingerbread Department:
    How about “fallen gumdrop?”

  • Mike | June 16, 2008 at 8:42 pm |

    I’m suprised no one went with the “Brooklyn Dodgers” as a name for that “expansion NBA franchise”. I know it probably wouldn’t really be allowed to be used, but would be interesting to see.

  • Aaron Scholder | June 16, 2008 at 8:57 pm |

    Good place to get some old WHA jerseys here: http://icejerseys.co...

  • =bg= | June 16, 2008 at 9:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”275744″]It has nothing to do with the column…and it may be a “uniform” stretch…but at the US Open Playoffs (a full 18 holes today) Tiger and Rocco are wearing nearly identical “uniforms.”

    Both have black pants, red shirt, black vest, and black hat.

    Of course Tigers has the swoosh on every bit and Roccos has other sponsers…[/quote]

    I don’t know if they have the same rule for golf, but in tennis, Nike has a rule that their players can’t have any other sponsor logos on their clothing. Ever see another logo on Agassi, or Sampras, or Federer? Tiger does have a clean look on course. I think the Thursday-Sat part of a tourney, he has a TW Nike shirt on–on Sunday it has the swoosh rather than TW prominently.

  • Griff | June 16, 2008 at 9:06 pm |

    New Michigan Road Jersey??

    Yup.

    Apparantly, we didn’t just take WVU’s football and basketball coach, we took their uniforms too!! Cue the uproar.

    http://img148.images...

  • LarenR | June 16, 2008 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”275834″]New Michigan Road Jersey??

    Yup.

    Apparantly, we didn’t just take WVU’s football and basketball coach, we took their uniforms too!! Cue the uproar.

    http://img148.images...

    UPROAR!

  • LarenR | June 16, 2008 at 9:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”275834″]New Michigan Road Jersey??

    Yup.

    Apparantly, we didn’t just take WVU’s football and basketball coach, we took their uniforms too!! Cue the uproar.

    http://img148.images...

    But seriously, it was hard to beat the classic, simple blue & maize/white & maize. Why do the manufacturers gotta go and make things “distinctive?” (I know, I know…it’s all about the $$)

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 9:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”275834″]New Michigan Road Jersey??

    Yup.

    Apparantly, we didn’t just take WVU’s football and basketball coach, we took their uniforms too!! Cue the uproar.

    http://img148.images...

    bitchrod, your thoughts?

  • E_Ro | June 16, 2008 at 9:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”275834″]New Michigan Road Jersey??

    Yup.

    Apparantly, we didn’t just take WVU’s football and basketball coach, we took their uniforms too!! Cue the uproar.

    http://img148.images...

    i’m going to have to investigate this…. uproar pending…

  • J Streets | June 16, 2008 at 9:53 pm |

    Nick Swisher took the Father’s Day theme a bit further than most…

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 10:15 pm |

    A prediction: Watch for a seriously long adjustment period at Michigan if the Wolverines don’t get back to their “accustomed” Big Ten status quickly. It takes an ego the size of, well, Michigna (both Upper and Lower) to screw around with one the longstanding, most traditional and universally appreciated uniforms in college football just because, “I’M the coach now.” I’ll bet in private moments he even considered changing the helmets. Given the public persona he projects, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if that crossed his mind.

  • Mike Engle | June 16, 2008 at 10:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”275840″]A prediction: Watch for a seriously long adjustment period at Michigan if the Wolverines don’t get back to their “accustomed” Big Ten status quickly. It takes an ego the size of, well, Michigna (both Upper and Lower) to screw around with one the longstanding, most traditional and universally appreciated uniforms in college football just because, “I’M the coach now.” I’ll bet in private moments he even considered changing the helmets. Given the public persona he projects, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if that crossed his mind.[/quote]
    At least he took away that freshman cornerback’s #1 jersey.

  • James Craven | June 16, 2008 at 10:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”275828″]“What the hell happened to the Philly outfield?

    “Looks like a volcano done blow up Three Mile Island.”[/quote]

    DAMN IT, PHIL! (Feels good to get that out of my system.)

    A Jimmy Buffet concert was held there two days ago. From what I’m hearing, they’re replacing the turf during the upcoming All-Star break and road trip following that to Florida and Shea.

  • James Craven | June 16, 2008 at 10:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”275834″]“Cue the uproar.”

    http://img148.images...

    Does that make Nike’s stuff look tame by comparison?

  • Minna H. | June 16, 2008 at 10:52 pm |

    Ricko, any visual evidence of other teams with the eye blue? I suppose I could just look up photos from past FDGs, but I’m feeling a bit lazy right now.

    Dan Hicks said that Tiger was wearing the same red shirt from yesterday, so the pants were probably the same, too. They probably only pack enough clothes for the allotted number of days.

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”275843″][quote comment=”275834″]“Cue the uproar.”

    http://img148.images...

    Does that make Nike’s stuff look lame by comparison?[/quote]

    yes

    (fixed too)

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 11:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”275844″]any visual evidence of other teams with the eye blue?[/quote]

    just for you, minna

  • Ricko | June 16, 2008 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”275844″]Ricko, any visual evidence of other teams with the eye blue? I suppose I could just look up photos from past FDGs, but I’m feeling a bit lazy right now.

    Dan Hicks said that Tiger was wearing the same red shirt from yesterday, so the pants were probably the same, too. They probably only pack enough clothes for the allotted number of days.[/quote]

    Nope. No visual. I didn’t watch the Twins yesterday, but when you mentioned the eye blue my reaction was, “Oh, yeah, I’d forgotten about that.” Maybe it even was the Twins last year; I just know I flashed on a memory of seeing it. Can’t match up that memory with a specific face or uniform, though. Sorry.

  • Mike Engle | June 16, 2008 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”275847″][quote comment=”275844″]Ricko, any visual evidence of other teams with the eye blue? I suppose I could just look up photos from past FDGs, but I’m feeling a bit lazy right now.

    Dan Hicks said that Tiger was wearing the same red shirt from yesterday, so the pants were probably the same, too. They probably only pack enough clothes for the allotted number of days.[/quote]

    Nope. No visual. I didn’t watch the Twins yesterday, but when you mentioned the eye blue my reaction was, “Oh, yeah, I’d forgotten about that.” Maybe it even was the Twins last year; I just know I flashed on a memory of seeing it. Can’t match up that memory with a specific face or uniform, though. Sorry.[/quote]
    Gerald Laird (guy on left).

  • Minna H. | June 16, 2008 at 11:27 pm |

    Thanks, Mike E.. Was that from this year or last?

    LI Phil, a picture actually showing his eyes would help!

  • Adam A Arturs | June 16, 2008 at 11:29 pm |

    Hi Paul,

    How about “skip buttoned”? That way the term can be applied to any form of zany numeric button skipping (and not just Pedro’s second).

    Your thoughts?

    Adam A Arturs

  • LI Phil | June 16, 2008 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”275850″] LI Phil, a picture actually showing his eyes would help![/quote]

    did you ask for “eye blue” or “blue eyes”?

    cuz…that’s a pic of eye blue

    /are you bummed that wang is broken?

  • Minna H. | June 16, 2008 at 11:32 pm |

    Ricko, watching Scott “Babyface” Baker strike out four in an inning was great–watching the Twins lose was not.

  • Minna H. | June 16, 2008 at 11:34 pm |

    LI Phil, I took a second look, and I can, indeed, see the eye blue if I concentrate really hard. I hate pastels!

    A broken Wang is never a good thing. Plus, it means the stock market of Taiwan will take a nose dive.

    Boo!

  • Mike Engle | June 16, 2008 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”275850″]Thanks, Mike E.. Was that from this year or last?

    LI Phil, a picture actually showing his eyes would help![/quote]
    From one of Mets games yesterday. (The earlier one, I think.) 15 June 2008, natch.

  • GregHolt | June 17, 2008 at 8:17 am |

    New Michigan road jersey on a person….

    http://bp0.blogger.c...

    Uproar seconded.

  • Kevin Z. | June 17, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    From the link of the Giants’ orange sanitaries, I searched Dressed to the Nines to figure out how many years they had them and noticed that for about 5 or 6 years the Giants didn’t have a road gray uniform set. I guess I always assumed that the colored jerseys of the 70s and 80s were just thirds, but did most teams who used colored jerseys not have a gray as well?

  • Filthy McNasty | June 18, 2008 at 6:21 am |

    [quote comment=”275795″][quote comment=”275742″]Wiesbaden (Germany) is the largest city in Europe never to have had a team in top-flight football. So sayeth Hull City’s own website:

    http://www.hullcityo...

    Well you learn something new everyday! Lived there for 19 years and always belived that ‘fact’!

    Filthy McNasty – you from Hull? or East York anyways?[/quote]

    I am indeed from Hull, and the creator of the site which reviewed the 2007/2008 Hull City kits as listed in the ticker. As a regular Uni-Watch reader I’m absolutely delighted that someone has submitted an article of mine!

    It inspires me to write a kit review of the 2005/2006 kit because I had a hand in redesigning it after the owner Adam Pearson showed me a prototype and I said ‘hmmm, too much white’ and a few months later he showed me a new version with considerably less white trim. It wasn’t the greatest of Tigers’ uniforms but I’m proud to have had a hand in what the finished article looks like. I wish I could have such influene with the St. Louis Rams because I want the royal blue and yellow gold back!

    I love this site, it makes me feel normal when considering my own sports kit geekery.

  • Urbannaja | June 20, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    Definitely should be called:

    The Pedro Passover