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Coughlin to Media: ‘I don’t like to brag, but it’s this big’

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Ah, Super Bowl Media Day — otherwise known as “the price we pay for having a free press.” I’m sure there are sillier rituals out there, but thinking of them would just be too depressing. Here’s a quick rundown of thoughts from the latest edition of this annual exercise in pointlessness:

• What exactly — exactly — is the rationale for having the players arrive in their full uniforms? And are these regular game jerseys, or do they wear smaller jerseys prepared specifically for Media Day, since they won’t be wearing pads?

• Those director-style chairs always strike me as somewhat infantilizing, like the players are little boys perched on high stools. I realize the idea is to get them up high where everyone can see them, but couldn’t they just dig a trench or a moat for the media to stand in instead?

• Mandals are almost always a bad idea, but I kinda like how they underscore the idiocy of the whole affair here.

• How come this guy didn’t wear his regular uniform?

• The Super Bowl patch looks pretty good on both teams’ jerseys this year.

I don’t even wanna know.

• I had a hunch that they might use the Super Bowl to trot out the revised NFL logo on the field. But I was wrong.

If you want less jaundiced analysis, I heartily recommend this high-larious piece, which I bet was a big hit in Junior Seau’s hotel room.

Multi-Media Day: I’ve got a really fun article in today’s New York Times that I’m pretty proud of, plus I did the voiceover narration for an accompanying video (embedded in the same page). It’s not uni-related, but don’t let that stop you — it’s probably the coolest thing I’ve worked on since the Bill Buckner column back in the fall of ’06. Enjoy.

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT (for a handful of you): Due to some scheduling complications, the starting time for this Saturday’s Uni Watch party at Sheep Station has been changed. Festivities will now commence at 4:30 p.m., not at the time I had previously announced (which I won’t even mention here, since its now moot). Update your datebooks, PDAs, scribblings on the back of your hand, or wherever you keep track of important events.

Among those in attendance, by the way, will be Jon Springer, who hopes to bring along a few advance copies of his upcoming book, Mets by the Numbers (based, of course, on his awesome web site of the same name, which has recently been revamped and relaunched after an all-too-lengthy period of inactivity). We may have a few copies to raffle off as well.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Yesterday morning, about an hour after my post about those vintage curling sweaters went up, I got a note from Nolan Thiessen, who’s actually a member of the team that wore the sweaters! “I’m a huge fan of the site and check it out regularly, so I was very happy to see that you picked up on the curling from last weekend,” he wrote. “The whole outfit ended up being a huge hit throughout the curling community. The guy on eBay had four sweaters — XL, L, M, M — which are exactly the four sizes we wear, so no tailoring was needed. We wanted to wear them sooner but couldn’t find pants to complete the look until recently. We plan on wearing them again, probably at an event in Victoria and our Players Championships in April.” At my request, Nolan also sent along a photo of his sweater’s inner label, which is a gorgeous piece of art in itself. … The Portland Beavers unveiled their new uniforms yesterday. The bad news is (a) they’re using the same sand/urine tone as their parent club, the Padres, and (b) they’re going to wear it at home. The good news is that the road grays are solid. The weird news is that they’re referring to their solid-color alternate design as “vintage,” even though there’s nothing vintage about wearing a solid jersey with white pants. As for the new logo, I like it well enough, although I’d prefer it if the top of the bat overlapped the lettering instead of the other way around (with thanks to Travis Demers for the graphics). … The U.S. soccer team will unveil new uniforms today, and the jersey will apparently look like this. Not bad, except it sucks that the sleeve stripes don’t wrap all the way around. Meanwhile, David Robins sent along an excellent video clip about the team’s training gear — recommended viewing. … If for some reason you’ve been dying to own an AHL all-star warm-up jersey, here’s your big chance (courtesy of Mark Coale).

 

229 comments to Coughlin to Media: ‘I don’t like to brag, but it’s this big’

  • Garrett | January 30, 2008 at 8:03 am |

    7am (Central) and uni watch is up already? Must be my lucky day. I better call that cute girl I’ve been hanging out with.

  • Robert | January 30, 2008 at 8:07 am |

    Seeing the players at media day without their pads really creeps me out.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 8:11 am |

    Ah, the timeless look of the US soccer team. You can look at any design and know exactly what week it was that they wore that one before they changed and wore something else.

  • Mike Edgerly | January 30, 2008 at 8:12 am |

    I like the new US Soccer jersey, but why can’t they find one look and stick with it? They can’t build a brand to compete with other world soccer powers if they can’t stick with a “Signature” look.

  • Beantown | January 30, 2008 at 8:18 am |

    I’m not so sure that Junior’s Flip Flops would qualify as “mandals.” My wife and I are avid ‘Mandal-Watchers’, and those are just flip-flops. I do agree with you that they look a bit rediculous with his uniform, but in order to be classified as “Mandals” there needs to be more straps, velcroe, etc.

  • Robert | January 30, 2008 at 8:20 am |

    Big thumbs up to the new Portland Beavers logo. I like that they used a cartoon beaver with a classic old-time look to it, as opposed to the silly ones that have been prevalent in many sports over the past couple of decades. Examples include Buffaslug and a BUNCH at the minor league baseball level, such as this:

    http://www.saltdogs....

  • Mark in Shiga | January 30, 2008 at 8:24 am |

    On those PortlandBeavers uniforms, it looks like the sand-colored home jerseys have names on the backs, but the road grays and “vintage” dark blue don’t. If any of them are gonig to have names, it should be the dull gray.

    I think what’s “vintage” about the dark blues is that they use white caps and white piping with a single letter logo, which is kind of old-fashioned. Trade the white pants for dark blue pants and you’d have some real circa-1910 coolness.

    And Jon, if you’re out there, I’m really looking forward to the MBTN book! I sent you a picture of some Japanese baseball players with really cool numerals on their backs a few years ago. The picture is long out of copyright; did you use it in the book?

  • Justin | January 30, 2008 at 8:34 am |

    About the media day jerseys, the Patriots seemed to be wearing their game jerseys, they are naturally cut small and stretch over the pads. The Giants however, seemed to be wearing loose fit authentic jerseys, which are clearly not their game worn cuts.

  • Kyle O. | January 30, 2008 at 8:45 am |

    Since the team pictures are also taken on media day wouldnt that be a valid reason to have the players in full uniform?

  • Hed-Bone11 | January 30, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    The weird news is that they’re referring to their solid-color alternate design as “vintage,” even thought there’s nothing vintage about wearing a solid jersey with white pants.

    Should be even “though”

  • Dan King | January 30, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    Is it just me or is the new US soccer teams training stuff a blatant ripoff of adidas by nike?

  • rc | January 30, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”213002″]I like the new US Soccer jersey, but why can’t they find one look and stick with it? They can’t build a brand to compete with other world soccer powers if they can’t stick with a “Signature” look.[/quote]

    Agreed. It is a sharp, simple, design, but as previous discussion had pointed out, the US National Team lacks a true identity, like the stripes of Argentina, or the orange of Holland. On the other hand, England, another team where white is thier primary color, has done some things with stripes and designs in the past. Germany has also changed thier white primary jersey depending on the manufacturer template. So maybe the only constant is the predominately White Jersey. Bottom line, the more Nike changes it, the more they sell, the more money they make. Same with all sports.

  • rc | January 30, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”213030″]Is it just me or is the new US soccer teams training stuff a blatant ripoff of adidas by nike?[/quote]

    I thought the same thing. I wonder why Nike would go ahead w/ such a similar design. Maybe they are getting lazy?

  • xyz | January 30, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    Yeah the ‘mandals’ are strange but I think Junior’s hat is the real concern. He looks like he just came out of a gay niteclub in Chelsea.

  • Southend James | January 30, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    Big thumbs up here for the new USA football kit.

    Umbro have lost the plot with England of late, pretty much given up on the new designs so instead decided to buy a 1986 retro shirt recently. That’s much more like it.

  • Steve | January 30, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    I read the beefsteak article this morning, without even realizing (at the time) that it was your handiwork, Paul. Now it is 9:00 am and I am already so hungry I’m about to lose my mind. And now I have to move to New Jersey.

    Thanks, Paul.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?

  • Tim | January 30, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    If USA Soccer wants to have a sustainable identity they should first get rid of the crest which is awful compared to other countries.

  • Joey Guns | January 30, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    Paul,

    Great beefsteak article. I live in north Jersey and was just at a charity beefsteak a few months back, so I can definitely relate!

  • Joey Guns | January 30, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?

  • todd krevanchi | January 30, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    from yesterday…
    [quote comment=”212981″]In regards to the OSU basketball shorts, I’ve always wondered how long it will take Nike, Adidas, Champs, Reebok, etc to introduce shorts that mimic College and Pro Football teams for the general public. Flag football and college intramural teams will scoop them up by the handfuls. Fans in general will want them to be able to wear them with their jerseys. Instead, NFL shop simply sells mesh ‘gym’ shorts with the ‘NFL Equipment’ logo and the team logo on them. They really seem to be missing out on an obvious product opportunity.[/quote]

    i agree. however they would have to be of less quality than the nike elite game shorts that are being sold. especially if you are targetting that intramural demo. i remember what i looked like after IM flag games in college.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    Here’s a video link to highlights of said game featuring TOSU and WE ARE PENN STATE

  • Jeff F | January 30, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?

  • Eriq Jaffe | January 30, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    I can only assume the “vintage” refers to the vertical sleeve striping (which is pretty cool, IMO), as well as breaking out the “Lucky Beavers” name. Other than that, yeah, there’s not much vintage about it.

  • Rick | January 30, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”213055″]I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?[/quote]

    OSU looked nice, but I’m actually not a big fan of that little piece of grey (which looks like duct tape) on the top of the OSU jerseys. Yes, this pic is from last year.

    http://msnbcmedia3.m...

  • Al | January 30, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”213048″]If USA Soccer wants to have a sustainable identity they should first get rid of the crest which is awful compared to other countries.

    [/quote]

    I kind of like it as opposed to the busy 1990 badge or the stylized USA or US of the past. That especially went for the 1991-1994 “US World Cup Team” or “US Olympic Team” writing. Not a proper shield.

    But when Ante Razov kissed the badge after a goal in a 2000 qualifier in Foxboro against, I think, the Bahamas, that was a defining moment for me.

    The blue shirt has been on bigsoccer a while, and it’s solid blue.

    That being said, doesn’t the front of our jersey violate the “solid body” rule that they’ve been bugging some of the European clubs about?

    Also, is it my imagination, or do the white panels alternate between differing shades of white?

  • Rick | January 30, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”213055″]I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?[/quote]

    “Did Vrabel fart again?”

  • Saru | January 30, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    Yesterday’s column referred to the curling outtifs as “1950s vintage sweaters”, but the inner label has a woolmark which wasn’t created until 1964 (as far as I can tell).

  • Skooter | January 30, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    King Kaufman from Salon has a segment on Super Bowl logos today. Nut uni-related, but within the same ballpark.

  • DJ | January 30, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    That being said, doesn’t the front of our jersey violate the “solid body” rule that they’ve been bugging some of the European clubs about?

    Also, is it my imagination, or do the white panels alternate between differing shades of white?

    The “solid body” rule applies to the back of the jersey, so that the player’s name and number appear on a solid color, per the rules of the Champions League and the UEFA Cup. It makes less sense when you have a team like Inter which has royal blue and black stripes and white numbers (a very good contrast), or Milan (red and black, white numbers), or Barcelona (claret and royal blue, yellow numbers). But if you see some of Newcastle United’s jerseys, the numbers would be lost in the black and white stripes.

    And yes, it seems that the US jersey has white and a pearl-gray striping, with thin red pinstriping in between. If the corresponding socks follow this, with navy shorts, that could be a really sharp kit.

  • tedkerwin | January 30, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    I second the point about the Giants wearing non-game jerseys, I own a Game Issued jersey and without pads they look silly, the shoulders have extra material that bunch up and the stretch fabric shrinks down to form fitting on medium people even if it is xxxl. Based on that I think the Pats are wearing non-game jerseys as well.

  • Christopher | January 30, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually). Especially if paired with a simple, solid, dark color.

    Hey- there’s a lot worse out there.

  • Mark D | January 30, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    The ST. Louis Blues almost had to go without there All-Star Goalie last night due to a lost in transportation moment with his pads-

    http://www.stltoday....

  • Duckstyle | January 30, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    The new US Soccer jersey looks pretty decent. Although I really like the last white jersey, I was always bothered with the stripes always being on only one sock and on the back of one of the legs on the shorts, weird. Hopefully this design will only carry over to the socks, which should look pretty sharp. I’d love if they keep this and maybe that blue pin-striped jersey they wore last year, at least they’re different. They really do need an identity, kit-wise, that could be it. With yearly updates from Nike of course.

  • Paul Lukas | January 30, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”213088″]Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually).[/quote]

    So do I — SF Giants, e.g. But this isn’t cream; it’s that yellow-ish tone that the Padres use. I stick to my urine comparison.

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 30, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.

  • Taylor | January 30, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    The soccer jersey? Looks like a Nike shirt with the US soccer logo on it. Could the swoosh be any *bigger*!?!

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 30, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    I like the new Beavers logo a lot. Finally we may be getting away from the angry mascot/pointy edges/thick strokes and bevels look that every team seems to use in new logos.

    In the minors I really dig the Beavers and the Spokane Indians.

  • Duckstyle | January 30, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”213080″]That being said, doesn’t the front of our jersey violate the “solid body” rule that they’ve been bugging some of the European clubs about?

    Also, is it my imagination, or do the white panels alternate between differing shades of white?

    The “solid body” rule applies to the back of the jersey, so that the player’s name and number appear on a solid color, per the rules of the Champions League and the UEFA Cup. It makes less sense when you have a team like Inter which has royal blue and black stripes and white numbers (a very good contrast), or Milan (red and black, white numbers), or Barcelona (claret and royal blue, yellow numbers). But if you see some of Newcastle United’s jerseys, the numbers would be lost in the black and white stripes.

    And yes, it seems that the US jersey has white and a pearl-gray striping, with thin red pinstriping in between. If the corresponding socks follow this, with navy shorts, that could be a really sharp kit.[/quote]

    In case you’re wondering, the jersey does have a pretty blank back, no stripes to accommodate nunbers.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”213065″][quote comment=”213055″]I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?[/quote]

    OSU looked nice, but I’m actually not a big fan of that little piece of grey (which looks like duct tape) on the top of the OSU jerseys.

    Yes, this pic is from last year.

    http://msnbcmedia3.m...

    It is my belief that the grey 3M piece that’s visible is part of Oden’s Nike Pro gear worn underneath.

  • daverak@comcast.net | January 30, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    If anyone gets the chance to visit the Bergen County area of northern NJ, try to go to a beefsteak. Awesome!!!!

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”213069″][quote comment=”213055″]I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?[/quote]

    “Did Vrabel fart again?”[/quote]

    That’s aight, we can do better…Phil, I’m waiting

  • Stuby | January 30, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”213104″][quote comment=”213080″]That being said, doesn’t the front of our jersey violate the “solid body” rule that they’ve been bugging some of the European clubs about?

    Also, is it my imagination, or do the white panels alternate between differing shades of white?

    The “solid body” rule applies to the back of the jersey, so that the player’s name and number appear on a solid color, per the rules of the Champions League and the UEFA Cup. It makes less sense when you have a team like Inter which has royal blue and black stripes and white numbers (a very good contrast), or Milan (red and black, white numbers), or Barcelona (claret and royal blue, yellow numbers). But if you see some of Newcastle United’s jerseys, the numbers would be lost in the black and white stripes.

    And yes, it seems that the US jersey has white and a pearl-gray striping, with thin red pinstriping in between. If the corresponding socks follow this, with navy shorts, that could be a really sharp kit.[/quote]

    In case you’re wondering, the jersey does have a pretty blank back, no stripes to accommodate nunbers.[/quote]
    Why does the inside of the collar have “Don’t Tread on Me” written in cursive?

  • al | January 30, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    check out the photoshop on the back of the post.

  • al | January 30, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    check out the photoshop on the back of the post.

  • Jeff F | January 30, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”213099″][quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.[/quote]

    Even so, I still don’t think it’s correct. A tipped back bat would fall behind the entire top of the circle – not just the letters. Unless we are to assume some major depth to the entire logo. If that’s the case then the letters would be in front of the beaver and the circle which the letters rest upon would be behind the beaver (assuming the beaver has normal beaver thickness).

    Picking at nits, I know, but isn’t that what we do here?

  • Ad Designer | January 30, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    That Super Bow patch would’ve looked pretty bad on the Green Bay Packers’ jerseys, but pretty good on the Chargers’ revamped powder blues. –Joba.

  • Robb | January 30, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”213114″]check out the photoshop on the back of the post.[/quote]

    wow, that didnt take long

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 30, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    That beefsteak article was awesome Paul. Sounds like my kind of thing.

    In Manhattan, one Tony Riane, eating beefsteak in a restaurant, choked to death. Doctors, reporting the death, said he “ate too ravenously.”

    Time Magazine, July 9, 1924

    Beefsteak dinners were also given for returning Olympic athletes, according to Time, “to which all rushed hungrily.”

    When the Republican New York Sun reported happily that a big bookie ‘named Frank Erickson had attended a beefsteak dinner given in honor of [Mayor Bill O’Dwyer] and Democratic Senatorial Candidate Herbert Lehman, O’Dwyer had a strange & wonderful answer. “Lehman,” he said indignantly, “has been framed.”

    Time Magazine, November 7, 1949

    Apparently the National Press Club also used to give beefsteaks in Washington. I wonder if it had anything to do with New York reporters, and how long the practice lasted there.

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 30, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”213120″][quote comment=”213099″][quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.[/quote]

    Even so, I still don’t think it’s correct. A tipped back bat would fall behind the entire top of the circle – not just the letters. Unless we are to assume some major depth to the entire logo. If that’s the case then the letters would be in front of the beaver and the circle which the letters rest upon would be behind the beaver (assuming the beaver has normal beaver thickness).

    Picking at nits, I know, but isn’t that what we do here?[/quote]

    I think it gives the logo a little depth, with the knob of the bat in front of the text and the top behind it suggests the lean of the bat. I like the logo, but I think a flat beaver/text/background would work too.

  • Jake Pride | January 30, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    Loved the link to the No Mas article on Super Bowl XXIX. They missed the obvious uni connection, though; 1994 was NFL’s throwback year. The 49ers loved their throwbacks so much, they continued to wear them for the rest of the season (and the Super Bowl). The Chargers, who had rolled out their fantastic sky-blue unis for the first time in decades, strangely chose *not* to wear their throwbacks — preventing what would have been the most aesthetically pleasing Super Bowl uni matchup ever.

    Interesting that both teams have, now in 2008, more or less settled back to those throwback uni designs as their standards.

  • Steve | January 30, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    My favorite part of the Portland Beavers’ new logo is the fact that he is CHOKING UP on the bat!! It’s a great look and the uniforms are great. I don’t necessarily LOVE the idea of the
    “rusted cream” look for the home uni’s, but all the same, I think they did a solid job

  • Drew | January 30, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”213088″]Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually). Especially if paired with a simple, solid, dark color.

    Hey- there’s a lot worse out there.[/quote]

    Looking at the photos on the Beaver website, the home uniforms don’t appear to resemble Padres sand. They look more like the simulated natural wool color of Giants home uniforms. I like it.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”213112″]Why does the inside of the collar have “Don’t Tread on Me” written in cursive?[/quote]

    You mean what’s that all about, or why is it on the collar?

    The “Don’t Tread on Me” thing was a Nike marketing tact taken for the 2006 World Cup.

    Like most things that are just meant to build short-term results (like “The Best Team You’ve Never Heard Of”), the campaign wasn’t sustained long enough to have any real impact. Kinda like changing your shirts every year and not having a timeless look or trying to build a brand.

  • Ed R. | January 30, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”213126″][quote comment=”213114″]check out the photoshop on the back of the post.[/quote]

    wow, that didnt take long[/quote]

    I love when they do this. It’s like maybe the readers won’t realize that he used to pitch for another team. I don’t mind still head stops with a photoshopped cap but is it really necessary to do this with action shots?

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    “Marketing tack,” that should read. Which makes only slightly more sense anyway.

  • Duckstyle | January 30, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”213112″][quote comment=”213104″][quote comment=”213080″]That being said, doesn’t the front of our jersey violate the “solid body” rule that they’ve been bugging some of the European clubs about?

    Also, is it my imagination, or do the white panels alternate between differing shades of white?

    The “solid body” rule applies to the back of the jersey, so that the player’s name and number appear on a solid color, per the rules of the Champions League and the UEFA Cup. It makes less sense when you have a team like Inter which has royal blue and black stripes and white numbers (a very good contrast), or Milan (red and black, white numbers), or Barcelona (claret and royal blue, yellow numbers). But if you see some of Newcastle United’s jerseys, the numbers would be lost in the black and white stripes.

    And yes, it seems that the US jersey has white and a pearl-gray striping, with thin red pinstriping in between. If the corresponding socks follow this, with navy shorts, that could be a really sharp kit.[/quote]

    In case you’re wondering, the jersey does have a pretty blank back, no stripes to accommodate nunbers.[/quote]
    Why does the inside of the collar have “Don’t Tread on Me” written in cursive?[/quote]

    Aparently they haven’t given up on the slogan they were using during the World Cup. Although I got emotionally caught up in the moment during the world cup, and thought the slogan was cool then, it just sounds played out now. Especially since the US got torched, and is sitting at about 20th in the FIFA rankings at the moment.

  • seattlematt | January 30, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Very interesting article about the beefsteak. It sort of seems like a pseudo-counterargument to Mark Bittman’s recent NY Times article, Rethinking the Meat-Guzzler. Is it just a coincidence that these ran 3 days apart?

  • Paul Lukas | January 30, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”213137″][quote comment=”213088″]Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually). Especially if paired with a simple, solid, dark color.

    Hey- there’s a lot worse out there.[/quote]

    Looking at the photos on the Beaver website, the home uniforms don’t appear to resemble Padres sand. They look more like the simulated natural wool color of Giants home uniforms. I like it.[/quote]

    You’re right — my bad. Thumbs up to this uni set!

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 30, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”213105″][quote comment=”213065″][quote comment=”213055″]I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?[/quote]

    OSU looked nice, but I’m actually not a big fan of that little piece of grey (which looks like duct tape) on the top of the OSU jerseys.

    Yes, this pic is from last year.

    http://msnbcmedia3.m...

    It is my belief that the grey 3M piece that’s visible is part of Oden’s Nike Pro gear worn underneath.[/quote]

    The 3M strip is part of the jersey…

    Home

    Road

    Just about every team that wears the “System of Dress” uni’s has the 3M strip on the shoulder.

    Syracuse incorporates it on the numbers for the home jerseys…

    ..and road jerseys.

  • ginsk | January 30, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    I despise the new US soccer kit. I really liked the previous style, with the stripes on one side. But i would have been happy with the away kit style for both (with the red stripes going across the chest.
    those look like ones you can get team bulk specials on at a discount sports store

  • Paul Lukas | January 30, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”213147″]Very interesting article about the beefsteak. It sort of seems like a pseudo-counterargument to Mark Bittman’s recent NY Times article, Rethinking the Meat-Guzzler. Is it just a coincidence that these ran 3 days apart?[/quote]

    I just about died when I saw that article on Sunday, because I knew my own article would run just three days later. I suspect we’ll get a few letters about the juxtaposition….

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 30, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”213031″][quote comment=”213002″]I like the new US Soccer jersey, but why can’t they find one look and stick with it? They can’t build a brand to compete with other world soccer powers if they can’t stick with a “Signature” look.[/quote]

    Agreed. It is a sharp, simple, design, but as previous discussion had pointed out, the US National Team lacks a true identity, like the stripes of Argentina, or the orange of Holland. On the other hand, England, another team where white is thier primary color, has done some things with stripes and designs in the past. Germany has also changed thier white primary jersey depending on the manufacturer template. So maybe the only constant is the predominately White Jersey. Bottom line, the more Nike changes it, the more they sell, the more money they make. Same with all sports.[/quote]

    I strongly agree with you guys about the signature look. Otherwise I LOVE the new jerseys, I wouldn’t change a thing.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”213149″][quote comment=”213105″][quote comment=”213065″][quote comment=”213055″]I am anxiously anticipating the barrage of colorfully created captions to go along with this pic.

    And on a uni-note, the Ohio State unis were gorgeous on ESPN last night, while what was up with the sidebars on the Nittany Lions gear?[/quote]

    OSU looked nice, but I’m actually not a big fan of that little piece of grey (which looks like duct tape) on the top of the OSU jerseys.

    Yes, this pic is from last year.

    http://msnbcmedia3.m...

    It is my belief that the grey 3M piece that’s visible is part of Oden’s Nike Pro gear worn underneath.[/quote]

    The 3M strip is part of the jersey…

    Home

    Road

    Just about every team that wears the “System of Dress” uni’s has the 3M strip on the shoulder.

    Syracuse incorporates it on the numbers for the home jerseys…

    ..and road jerseys.[/quote]

    Good work, thanks Paulie

  • Brian from Short Island | January 30, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”213002″]I like the new US Soccer jersey, but why can’t they find one look and stick with it? They can’t build a brand to compete with other world soccer powers if they can’t stick with a “Signature” look.[/quote]
    Our signature look is a white shirt with navy blue shorts, and save for 1994, it’s always been that. What else do you want? England gets different Umbro patterns on their trademark white shirt every few years, why can’t we? The only country with a trademark other than color that comes to mind is Argentina with their vertical white and sky blue stripes. Brazil’s trademark is just a color. So is ours.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 30, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”213137″][quote comment=”213088″]Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually). Especially if paired with a simple, solid, dark color.

    Hey- there’s a lot worse out there.[/quote]

    Looking at the photos on the Beaver website, the home uniforms don’t appear to resemble Padres sand. They look more like the simulated natural wool color of Giants home uniforms. I like it.[/quote]

    Put me into the “Like It” group, I think the Beavers uni’s look better than the Padre’s (quite rare that a Minor League’s uni’s look better than the Majors). I dig the cream/natural wool color.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    Sneaker Technology Post
    Feel Free to bypass if totally disinterested!

    Question for Todd K. or any other Nikehead.
    This morning, I wore these to the gym.
    The difference in “zoom” cushioning between any shoe of the late 90’s, Flightposites, Penny 2’s for example, and those now like the Huarache Elites is palpable.
    What’s up with that…Are the older ones DOuble Stacked Zoom?

  • Al Gruwell | January 30, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    Glad to see you came around on the Beavers’ jerseys, Paulie.
    No love for the old-school wide piping and down the shoulder stripes. Lawd almighty, I like that.
    This is just a hunch, but with Seau having (or did have) his own line of beach apparel (Say-Ow I believe it was called), he could be doing a plug? Or, he just like flip-flops. What looks dorkier, the tights in Arizona, or wearing flip-flops with socks?

  • Bill | January 30, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    Excellent beefstake article, Paul. I’m a vegetarian, but it made my mouth water!

  • Stuby | January 30, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”213138″][quote comment=”213112″]Why does the inside of the collar have “Don’t Tread on Me” written in cursive?[/quote]

    You mean what’s that all about, or why is it on the collar?

    The “Don’t Tread on Me” thing was a Nike marketing tact taken for the 2006 World Cup.

    Like most things that are just meant to build short-term results (like “The Best Team You’ve Never Heard Of”), the campaign wasn’t sustained long enough to have any real impact. Kinda like changing your shirts every year and not having a timeless look or trying to build a brand.[/quote]
    Yeah, I meant “Why the hell are they using the motto from the Navy Jack?” But I am curious why they would put it where almost no one would see it.

  • Joe H | January 30, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”213131″][quote comment=”213120″][quote comment=”213099″][quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.[/quote]

    Even so, I still don’t think it’s correct. A tipped back bat would fall behind the entire top of the circle – not just the letters. Unless we are to assume some major depth to the entire logo. If that’s the case then the letters would be in front of the beaver and the circle which the letters rest upon would be behind the beaver (assuming the beaver has normal beaver thickness).

    Picking at nits, I know, but isn’t that what we do here?[/quote]

    I think it gives the logo a little depth, with the knob of the bat in front of the text and the top behind it suggests the lean of the bat. I like the logo, but I think a flat beaver/text/background would work too.[/quote]

    Here ya go….discuss.

    I could go either way with it.

  • todd krevanchi | January 30, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”213162″]Sneaker Technology Post
    Feel Free to bypass if totally disinterested!

    Question for Todd K. or any other Nikehead.
    This morning, I wore these to the gym.
    The difference in “zoom” cushioning between any shoe of the late 90’s, Flightposites, Penny 2’s for example, and those now like the Huarache Elites is palpable.
    What’s up with that…Are the older ones DOuble Stacked Zoom?[/quote]

    my estimation is that your air zoom turf’s are retros. in which the quality and comfort wont even touch the original.

  • David T | January 30, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    Paul,

    Great slice of life (and meat) writing. Never having been to (or heard of) a beefsteak before, I’ll keep an eye out for one next time I’m in your neck of the woods. I think your video is essential watching too–a bunch of Jersey guys enjoying mass quantities of beef. Perfect. Congrats on another writing success.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 11:07 am |
  • Mark in Shiga | January 30, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”213126″][quote comment=”213114″]check out the photoshop on the back of the post.[/quote]

    wow, that didnt take long[/quote]

    I do hope the Mets assign him a number lower than that egregious 57 he had with the Twins. I’ve always liked how the Mets assign numbers in the low 50s to coaches who don’t often step on to the field. Not so high that they look weird when you do see them, but at the same time they leave more “regular” numbers open for the players.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”213178″][quote comment=”213162″]Sneaker Technology Post
    Feel Free to bypass if totally disinterested!

    Question for Todd K. or any other Nikehead.
    This morning, I wore these to the gym.
    The difference in “zoom” cushioning between any shoe of the late 90’s, Flightposites, Penny 2’s for example, and those now like the Huarache Elites is palpable.
    What’s up with that…Are the older ones DOuble Stacked Zoom?[/quote]

    my estimation is that your air zoom turf’s are retros. in which the quality and comfort wont even touch the original.[/quote]

    You are correct, and I am absolutely certain that they pale in comparison, but the retros are still much more cushioned,(zoom is mushy) than present zoom enhanced shoes. I still have my Air Zoom Jet Turfs from college, the ones Brett Favre used to wear, and they are incredibly cushioned and one year younger than the original Zomm Turfs.

  • Ash | January 30, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    DC to north Jersey is what? 4 hours? I need to go to a beefsteak.

  • Adam | January 30, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”213184″]
    I do hope the Mets assign him a number lower than that egregious 57 he had with the Twins. I’ve always liked how the Mets assign numbers in the low 50s to coaches who don’t often step on to the field. Not so high that they look weird when you do see them, but at the same time they leave more “regular” numbers open for the players.[/quote]

    Uh, I’m pretty sure that if he wanted a different number with the Twins (after his rookie year, at least), they’d probably have given it to him. I’m just as sure that the Mets won’t “assign” him anything, he’ll choose what he wants (taking into account what he can’t have, of course).

  • david goodfriend | January 30, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    Hi Paul

    if that was your piece on “beefsteak” in todays nyt….I loved it!

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”213145″]Aparently they haven’t given up on the slogan they were using during the World Cup. Although I got emotionally caught up in the moment during the world cup, and thought the slogan was cool then, it just sounds played out now. Especially since the US got torched, and is sitting at about 20th in the FIFA rankings at the moment.[/quote]

    The slogan still exists. But Nike hasn’t been making a push with it in any ads or anything that I’ve seen since Germany. If “Don’t Tread on Me” on the collar is their idea of continuing with a campaign, it seems kind of underground to me.

    As for our “signature look,” it’s hard to call something a “signature look” when they keep futzing with it. It’s not just the details…it’s hard to say it’s “white shirt, blue shorts” when in major competitions over the years we’ve worn other things. I think there are those of us who would prefer if US Soccer would just get an iconic look and make minor modifications over time.

    This look was in when we re-appeared on the World Cup stage in 1990 (the mullet was part of the kit then).

    We wore white on white and the denim look with red shorts in the 1994 World Cup.

    This was one look in 2002 in Korea and this was another.

    In 1998, this was the white-on-white look and this the blue-on-blue.

    Brian McBride spilled his own blood on this one in 2006 (I was at that game!), and this was the blue model that bore no resemblance in style to the white.

    Since then they’ve brought out the stupid “number in a circle on the front” shirts in white and in blue the very cool 1950s-inspired red sash kit, a red shirt with blue shorts number and the baseball-looking all blue with white pinstripes that make them look like Bill Buckner.

    Point is this: US Soccer changes its look more than a teenage girl. If white over blue is a “signature look,” they sure sign their names very differently over the course of time. That ain’t a signature look to me.

  • Shaftman | January 30, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”213177″][quote comment=”213131″][quote comment=”213120″][quote comment=”213099″][quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.[/quote]

    Even so, I still don’t think it’s correct. A tipped back bat would fall behind the entire top of the circle – not just the letters. Unless we are to assume some major depth to the entire logo. If that’s the case then the letters would be in front of the beaver and the circle which the letters rest upon would be behind the beaver (assuming the beaver has normal beaver thickness).

    Picking at nits, I know, but isn’t that what we do here?[/quote]

    I think it gives the logo a little depth, with the knob of the bat in front of the text and the top behind it suggests the lean of the bat. I like the logo, but I think a flat beaver/text/background would work too.[/quote]

    Here ya go….discuss.

    I could go either way with it.[/quote]

    Joe, I like yours better except…
    It could almost look like it’s spelling “PORTDAND”. The “L” that is now being partially hidden looks similar to the “D” at the end of the word. Otherwise, beautiful.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 30, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”213162″]Sneaker Technology Post
    Feel Free to bypass if totally disinterested!

    Question for Todd K. or any other Nikehead.
    This morning, I wore these to the gym.
    The difference in “zoom” cushioning between any shoe of the late 90’s, Flightposites, Penny 2’s for example, and those now like the Huarache Elites is palpable.
    What’s up with that…Are the older ones DOuble Stacked Zoom?[/quote]

    A lot of football training shoes like the Turf Trainers had double stacked zoom due to the fact that “Large Volume” Zoom Air or full length Zoom Air hadn’t been fabricated yet.

    Penny 2’s and Foamposites (all of them to be exact) featured large Air Max bags under the heel and the forefoot. It usually depended on the athlete it was modeled on, most in the 90’s liked Air Max cushioning.

    Huarache’s (that includes the 2K4’s, 2K5’s and the Elite series) have an Air Max bag in the heel and a single Zoom Air bag in the forefoot.

    Lebron 2’s had a full length large volume Zoom Air Bag and Kobe 2 has full length zoom air bag as well.

  • The Ol Goaler | January 30, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”213184″][quote comment=”213126″][quote comment=”213114″]check out the photoshop on the back of the post.[/quote]

    wow, that didnt take long[/quote]

    I do hope the Mets assign him a number lower than that egregious 57 he had with the Twins. I’ve always liked how the Mets assign numbers in the low 50s to coaches who don’t often step on to the field. Not so high that they look weird when you do see them, but at the same time they leave more “regular” numbers open for the players.[/quote]
    I dunno… mayhap Señor Santana prefers to wear #57, since he’s had such success with it! (Hoping I’ve also closed the italics!)

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    seeing as how the mets are able to print money, and johan should net easily $20-25M per over six years, he should have the scratch to ply any number away from any met…he could even buy the starting left side of the infield and stitch them together…

    srsly, tho, im pretty sure he WANTS 57 and 57 he will be

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”213195″][quote comment=”213162″]Sneaker Technology Post
    Feel Free to bypass if totally disinterested!

    Question for Todd K. or any other Nikehead.
    This morning, I wore these to the gym.
    The difference in “zoom” cushioning between any shoe of the late 90’s, Flightposites, Penny 2’s for example, and those now like the Huarache Elites is palpable.
    What’s up with that…Are the older ones DOuble Stacked Zoom?[/quote]

    A lot of football training shoes like the Turf Trainers had double stacked zoom due to the fact that “Large Volume” Zoom Air or full length Zoom Air hadn’t been fabricated yet.

    Penny 2’s and Foamposites (all of them to be exact) featured large Air Max bags under the heel and the forefoot. It usually depended on the athlete it was modeled on, most in the 90’s liked Air Max cushioning.

    Huarache’s (that includes the 2K4’s, 2K5’s and the Elite series) have an Air Max bag in the heel and a single Zoom Air bag in the forefoot.

    Lebron 2’s had a full length large volume Zoom Air Bag and Kobe 2 has full length zoom air bag as well.[/quote]

    That’s twice today, Thanks Paulie

  • Lee | January 30, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    “…And are these regular game jerseys, or do they wear smaller jerseys prepared specifically for Media Day, since they won’t be wearing pads?”

    I have a game worn Titans jersey, #66 no name, must have been an in-game replacement or ‘blood jersey’for a lineman. I am not a petite fellow, normally wear 2XL shirt and I can barely squeeze into this jersey. I have no idea how they get that thing on OVER a set of shoulder pads.

  • Joe H | January 30, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”213193″][quote comment=”213177″][quote comment=”213131″][quote comment=”213120″][quote comment=”213099″][quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.[/quote]

    Even so, I still don’t think it’s correct. A tipped back bat would fall behind the entire top of the circle – not just the letters. Unless we are to assume some major depth to the entire logo. If that’s the case then the letters would be in front of the beaver and the circle which the letters rest upon would be behind the beaver (assuming the beaver has normal beaver thickness).

    Picking at nits, I know, but isn’t that what we do here?[/quote]

    I think it gives the logo a little depth, with the knob of the bat in front of the text and the top behind it suggests the lean of the bat. I like the logo, but I think a flat beaver/text/background would work too.[/quote]

    Here ya go….discuss.

    I could go either way with it.[/quote]

    Joe, I like yours better except…
    It could almost look like it’s spelling “PORTDAND”. The “L” that is now being partially hidden looks similar to the “D” at the end of the word. Otherwise, beautiful.[/quote]

    I exceeded my bandwidth, so I had to repost the new Beavers logo.

  • Boston Nick | January 30, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”213100″]The soccer jersey? Looks like a Nike shirt with the US soccer logo on it. Could the swoosh be any *bigger*!?![/quote]

    Honestly, that’s just nit-picking on Nike. Adidas’s logos are just as big on the front of their jerseys, and they have the three stripes all over the place too, plus they emphasize templates over teams in soccer, which Nike has gone away from.

    As for the discussion about the US needing a recognizable consistent uniform, frankly, that’s a bunch of BS. As someone else said, the home kit of white jerseys and blue shorts is the US signature. Italy has had countless home jerseys, even sometimes changing the shade of blue for their jerseys, and no one acts like Italy isn’t recognizable. Holland has the orange, but they’ve gone with Orange and black, orange and white, Orange and blue over the years. They’ve also had white away jerseys, blue away jerseys and light blue away jerseys. Brazil has the yellow, blue and white look, but it’s changed design often over the years. And all these teams (other than Italy, who wasn’t with Nike then) had the stupid Nike total90 unis with the circled number on the front of the jersey. Argentina has had some awful editions of their classic style (World Cup 06 and the Reebok era come to mind).

    Acting like the US team doesn’t ‘get it’ because they have differing styles of home jerseys is ignoring the entire sport. Every team changes in similar ways, even the club teams. Milan has had about 12-13 different styles of red and black striped jerseys since I started really following soccer. Bayern Munich changes it’s home and road styles every couple years and rarely has any continuity.

    Frankly, this seems to be complaint without any basis in reality.

    I prefer the previous home jerseys with the red and blue offset stripe, because I think it looked classic and unique, but just because it’s gone doesn’t mean I look at the US jerseys like they’re doing something different than every other team in the world does.

  • MLB2PDX | January 30, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    All in all I’m very pleased with the new Beavers look. Especially after some of the proposed names they had when they were thinking of changing the mascot. I was afraid they’d get too gimicky, etc. Keeping things traditional was a great choice. Especially in this city.

    I had a feeling that they were going to be somewhat similar to the Padres. Which makes sense, but I wish they would have picked something unique (dark blue and dark green I say!!). Especially for when the day comes that SD is no longer the parent club.

    I have to say, I dont understand why people have a problem with the off-white looks that some teams have come out with. I hate the Giants with a passion, but I think their look is really nice. San Diego made perfect sense to me…seeing as it’s a “sand” color. Same goes for the Beavers, they’re trying to include a natural/”Oregon coast” feel to everything. Fine by me.

    I really really like the shoulder stripe that they used. Very unique and old school. Well done.

    All in all the logos are fine by me. It’s nice to see that they’re not too cartoony, and that they also brought back “Lucky”. I also like the simple look to the numbers.

    My main complaint is the logo for the hats. It just doesn’t look right to me. Too cluttered, etc. If anything, I’d much rather have preferred just using the P with the beaver tail on it. But if that’s my only real problem with things, then so be it. Oh yeah, and nice to see a white hat in the mix. Not too many of them around anymore.

    All in all, pretty ‘dam’ good looking.

  • MLB2PDX | January 30, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”213214″]I exceeded my bandwidth, so I had to repost the new Beavers logo.[/quote]

    I have to say, I like the original one better. Shows that the bat is tilted, etc. But I ain’t done be none graphic design major…so maybe I don’t know shiiit.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”213215″]As for the discussion about the US needing a recognizable consistent uniform, frankly, that’s a bunch of BS. As someone else said, the home kit of white jerseys and blue shorts is the US signature.[/quote]

    My point is this: How can it be a signature when we only wear it (or variations of it) half the time?

    [quote]
    Acting like the US team doesn’t ‘get it’ because they have differing styles of home jerseys is ignoring the entire sport.[/quote]

    Didn’t say they didn’t “get it”TM

    Said I’d prefer it if they’d pick a jersey and stick with it instead of thinking they have to have a new one every year.

    [quote]I prefer the previous home jerseys with the red and blue offset stripe, because I think it looked classic and unique, but just because it’s gone doesn’t mean I look at the US jerseys like they’re doing something different than every other team in the world does.[/quote]

    Every other team….except Argentina. And Italy. And, you know, teams like that.

  • bcrt2000 | January 30, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    http://img525.images...

    Looks like Evgeni Nabokov of the Sharks was wearing the old Sharks socks last night. Isn’t that a fineable offense?

  • Travis McGuire | January 30, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    I’m sure the new Beavers uniforms (especially the home) will look different in person, but the photos on the beavers’ website shows a white home uni, perhaps even off white.

    As for the vintage…who knows? I think they are referring to the logo, and not the uniform combo. That P was used a long time ago when they were called the “Lucky Beavers”. I used to be a bat boy with the team that preceeded the Beavers (Short-A Portland Rockies) and we had a great turn back the clock night featuring that P.

  • Stan aka the took | January 30, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

    PARRRRRRTTTTTTYYYYY witttthhhhh PAULLLLLLLLLLL! NO! SLEEP! TILL BRRROOOKKKLLLYNNN!!!

    Yeah, the sand color looks really nice on paper but in game action it looks like piss. Either way those jerseys, logos, and all that jazz is really, really good looking.

  • Al | January 30, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”213100″]The soccer jersey? Looks like a Nike shirt with the US soccer logo on it. Could the swoosh be any *bigger*!?![/quote]

    It seems to me that more designers are putting the logo up towards the clacivle rather than at the sternum. It was something I noticed this year in the Prem.

  • Mike Edgerly | January 30, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”213223″][quote comment=”213215″]As for the discussion about the US needing a recognizable consistent uniform, frankly, that’s a bunch of BS. As someone else said, the home kit of white jerseys and blue shorts is the US signature.[/quote]

    My point is this: How can it be a signature when we only wear it (or variations of it) half the time?

    [quote]
    Acting like the US team doesn’t ‘get it’ because they have differing styles of home jerseys is ignoring the entire sport.[/quote]

    Didn’t say they didn’t “get it”TM

    Said I’d prefer it if they’d pick a jersey and stick with it instead of thinking they have to have a new one every year.

    [quote]I prefer the previous home jerseys with the red and blue offset stripe, because I think it looked classic and unique, but just because it’s gone doesn’t mean I look at the US jerseys like they’re doing something different than every other team in the world does.[/quote]

    Every other team….except Argentina. And Italy. And, you know, teams like that.[/quote]

    For me, the Stripe, whether it’s horizontal or vertical helped offset the US and make their own brand. Granted, the White Shirt and Blue shorts are their “look” but after the uniform debacle of the 1994 World Cup and wearing things like Pinstripes over the years, they need all the image help they can get. In my opinion removing the stripes makes them more plain, something they don’t need.

  • Dave S | January 30, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    Hey Junior Seau, Nice Hat! He looks like he should be selling newspapers on the corner. I bet he gets a fine like Brian Urlacher did last year since I’m guessing that is not a “league-approved” hat.

  • Duckstyle | January 30, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”213223″][quote comment=”213215″]As for the discussion about the US needing a recognizable consistent uniform, frankly, that’s a bunch of BS. As someone else said, the home kit of white jerseys and blue shorts is the US signature.[/quote]

    My point is this: How can it be a signature when we only wear it (or variations of it) half the time?

    [quote]
    Acting like the US team doesn’t ‘get it’ because they have differing styles of home jerseys is ignoring the entire sport.[/quote]

    Didn’t say they didn’t “get it”TM

    Said I’d prefer it if they’d pick a jersey and stick with it instead of thinking they have to have a new one every year.

    [quote]I prefer the previous home jerseys with the red and blue offset stripe, because I think it looked classic and unique, but just because it’s gone doesn’t mean I look at the US jerseys like they’re doing something different than every other team in the world does.[/quote]

    Every other team….except Argentina. And Italy. And, you know, teams like that.[/quote]

    I’m gonna have to agree. Although many teams change their template from year to year, very few change the entire concept from jersey to socks. It’s pretty bush. If they acctually did stick with white one blue, and blue on white, that’d be great, but they don’t. It’s a fricken crap shoot trying to figure out what they might wear from game to game. All we’re asking for is consistancy, we care if they switch templates.

  • Jeff F | January 30, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”213214″][quote comment=”213193″][quote comment=”213177″][quote comment=”213131″][quote comment=”213120″][quote comment=”213099″][quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]

    He has the top of the bat tipped back, like any normal batter.[/quote]

    Even so, I still don’t think it’s correct. A tipped back bat would fall behind the entire top of the circle – not just the letters. Unless we are to assume some major depth to the entire logo. If that’s the case then the letters would be in front of the beaver and the circle which the letters rest upon would be behind the beaver (assuming the beaver has normal beaver thickness).

    Picking at nits, I know, but isn’t that what we do here?[/quote]

    I think it gives the logo a little depth, with the knob of the bat in front of the text and the top behind it suggests the lean of the bat. I like the logo, but I think a flat beaver/text/background would work too.[/quote]

    Here ya go….discuss.

    I could go either way with it.[/quote]

    Joe, I like yours better except…
    It could almost look like it’s spelling “PORTDAND”. The “L” that is now being partially hidden looks similar to the “D” at the end of the word. Otherwise, beautiful.[/quote]

    I exceeded my bandwidth, so I had to repost the new Beavers logo.[/quote]

    Thanks, Joe. I like your logo better. Seems more consistent to me. In all, I like the logo and uni design and this is a minor item to obsess over.

  • Duckstyle | January 30, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    that should read, “we don’t care if they switch templates”

  • E_Ro | January 30, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”213225″]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4295/nabbypicmf5.jpg

    Looks like Evgeni Nabokov of the Sharks was wearing the old Sharks socks last night. Isn’t that a fineable offense?[/quote]

    If only Tampa Bay, Calgary, and Ottawa would wear their old socks.

  • Joe from WV | January 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”213217″]…I have to say, I dont understand why people have a problem with the off-white looks that some teams have come out with. I hate the Giants with a passion, but I think their look is really nice. San Diego made perfect sense to me…seeing as it’s a “sand” color. Same goes for the Beavers, they’re trying to include a natural/”Oregon coast” feel to everything. Fine by me….

    All in all, pretty ‘dam’ good looking.[/quote]
    I agree. I’m in the minority that absolutely loves the Pads’ sand-instead-of-gray road unis although I despise the wordmark.

  • Stuby | January 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”213113″]check out the photoshop on the back of the post.[/quote]
    I wonder if any Philly papers did a photoshop on Pedro Feliz when he signed the other day.

  • Al | January 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”213191″]
    We wore white on white and the denim look with red shorts in the 1994 World Cup.
    [/quote]

    Don’t forget the wavy stripes a la Paraguay.

    http://cache.viewima...

    Oddly enough, that uniform set from the 1994 World Cup got the most votes for a “Best Kit” (BBC) and “Worst Kit” (BigSoccer) poll.

    That being said, this kit is actually a throwback. Remember our last few kits? The 1999-2001 shirt with the thick blue collar recalls 1916. The blue shirt we had the last two, three years is the same as 1995-1997.

    The paean is to Team America! (Well, kind of.)

    http://nasljerseys.c...

  • Duckstyle | January 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    Some college uni talk on Rivals.com. Can’t argue with their picks.

  • Jeremy | January 30, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    bryan station hs in lexington, ky has an interesting font on their bball unis.

  • Jen in Chicago | January 30, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    Hey, Paul, good NYT article. Nice pipes…..

  • Christopher | January 30, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”213098″][quote comment=”213088″]Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually).[/quote]

    So do I — SF Giants, e.g. But this isn’t cream; it’s that yellow-ish tone that the Padres use. I stick to my urine comparison.[/quote]

    I guess you’re right… that mock-up of their minor league team… the drawing is much more cream to me. Maybe just bad art?

    A caveat… does anyone know of any team (any league, sport) that uses a maroon or burgundy with cream?

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”213235″]Hey Junior Seau, Nice Hat! He looks like he should be selling newspapers on the corner. I bet he gets a fine like Brian Urlacher did last year since I’m guessing that is not a “league-approved” hat.[/quote]

    Or standing in for Blossom.

  • GoMac | January 30, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    I live 10 minutes from Hasbrouck Heights..and I now need to figure out where and when the next beefsteak is..cause I’m totally going to one..haha.

    I really like the Beavers’ new sets..the logo is like new-age old school..gotta dig it.

  • Lee | January 30, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    I dislike the new US soccer tops. They look like 1980’s era polo shirts, sans collars.
    As for the “signature” look, its basically a white shirt over blue shorts. That said, Nike likes to mix it up a great deal.

    My favorite happens to be the one just replaced (white with the blue/red ‘racing’ stripes), my least favorite the denim stars they wore in 1994 (adidas).

    I don’t think anyone in the world looks to the US as needing a shirt thats instantly recognizable because A) tons of team wear white and B) you reach iconic status not because of shirt color, but because of performance.

    And I like the new Portland uniforms, “urine” colored or not. Beats plain ol’ white, although I don’t really see it as a “Portland” color.

    Lee

  • PhillyDude | January 30, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    BEST-DRESSED COLLEGE BASKETBALL TEAMS

    http://collegebasket...

    Do you agree, Paul?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”213114″]check out the photoshop on the back of the post.[/quote]

    Pretty par for the course for the Post

  • Johnny O | January 30, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    Maybe uni-watcher Nicole from Wisconsin can answer this question:

    Did I totally miss the Brewers Fan Fest and/or Winter Warm Up? Did I miss anything special? And when was/is it?

  • John T | January 30, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    Interesting site showing kits from International sides as well as english Premier league clubs, not complete (no sign of pinstripes) but worth a look

    USA
    http://www.kitclassi...

    Main Page
    http://www.kitclassi...

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | January 30, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”213247″]bryan station hs in lexington, ky has an interesting font on their bball unis.[/quote]

    Holy crap!!! I’m not sure that I want to confess that I went to Bryan Station. But, I guess I just did. And just try to find the Defenders logo anywhere on the official site. I found it, but it was at the alumni site.

  • JoeS | January 30, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”213245″][quote comment=”213191″]
    We wore white on white and the denim look with red shorts in the 1994 World Cup.
    [/quote]

    Don’t forget the wavy stripes a la Paraguay.

    http://cache.viewima...

    Oddly enough, that uniform set from the 1994 World Cup got the most votes for a “Best Kit” (BBC) and “Worst Kit” (BigSoccer) poll.

    That being said, this kit is actually a throwback. Remember our last few kits? The 1999-2001 shirt with the thick blue collar recalls 1916. The blue shirt we had the last two, three years is the same as 1995-1997.

    The paean is to Team America! (Well, kind of.)

    http://nasljerseys.c...

    Fuck Yeah!

  • Jerico | January 30, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”213260″]I don’t think anyone in the world looks to the US as needing a shirt thats instantly recognizable because A) tons of team wear white and B) you reach iconic status not because of shirt color, but because of performance.[/quote]

    It’s hard to define what the “signature” look of US Soccer is when we’ve been prominent in world football/soccer only since the early ’90s. All of the other nations mentioned (Argentina, England, et al) have been doing their thing at an elite level for years.

  • skott daltonic | January 30, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    how does it work when a minor league team changes their uniform to match up w/ the bigs team – does the minor league team pay for it?

    is part of the cost picked up by the parent club?

    how much does the cost of any uni thing cost when its a minor league (baseball or hockey) part of a family –

    i’m very curious to know some of the details about the partnership of the two clubs, or more as the case may be…

  • GoTerriers | January 30, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”213235″]Hey Junior Seau, Nice Hat! He looks like he should be selling newspapers on the corner. I bet he gets a fine like Brian Urlacher did last year since I’m guessing that is not a “league-approved” hat.[/quote]
    I’m guessing no fine for Junior on this one. While the hat may be questionable, fashion-wise, it doesn’t bear the logo of a sponsor who directly competes with an “Official Product” of the NFL. That’s why Urlacher’s hat was objectionable to the league last year. Seau’s hat is just plain objectionable (even to this Patriots’ fan!)

  • Jerico | January 30, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    I just saw the video about the training kits for US Soccer, and wow, you guys are right–they DO look like the adidas template unis! Is this Nike’s rather subliminal way of saying that templates are for training purposes only?

  • Joe from WV | January 30, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    Speaking of Padres unis, there’s a great uni-related story and mystery of sorts over at Gaslamp Ball . We’ve been trying to figure out the origin of a Chris Gwynn #96 jersey that he picked up at the FriarFest garage sale. The best theory yet is that it was from the press conference when he signed. Does anybody know anything certain about this?

  • BobA | January 30, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    Baskinger’s got into the beefsteak business in 1973 and is run today by Joe Argieri, who joined the company in 1983. “At that time, I was in my 20s and had no idea what a beefsteak was,” he said. “I grew up in Nutley — the only beefsteak I knew about was beefsteak tomatoes.”

    To put that statement in perspective, consider that Nutley is only six miles south of Clifton. But it’s over the county line, in Essex, which in beefsteak terms means it may as well be in Kansas.
    I grew up in Nutley as well and before I got to that paragraph I was thinking “how did I miss out?”

  • AK | January 30, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”213063″]I think the strangest thing about the Portland Beavers new logo is that the bat is under the wordmark on the top but on top of the wordmark on the bottom (the knob of the bat). Where’s the consistency?[/quote]
    I think it give the logo a bit of a 3D effect.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”213273″][quote comment=”213247″]bryan station hs in lexington, ky has an interesting font on their bball unis.[/quote]

    Holy crap!!! I’m not sure that I want to confess that I went to Bryan Station. But, I guess I just did. And just try to find the Defenders logo anywhere on the official site. I found it, but it was at the alumni site.[/quote]

    Interesting? Maybe if you’re a graffiti artist ;-)

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”213283″][quote comment=”213235″]Hey Junior Seau, Nice Hat! He looks like he should be selling newspapers on the corner. I bet he gets a fine like Brian Urlacher did last year since I’m guessing that is not a “league-approved” hat.[/quote]
    I’m guessing no fine for Junior on this one. While the hat may be questionable, fashion-wise, it doesn’t bear the logo of a sponsor who directly competes with an “Official Product” of the NFL. That’s why Urlacher’s hat was objectionable to the league last year. Seau’s hat is just plain objectionable (even to this Patriots’ fan!)[/quote]
    Maybe he just wants to stay classy

  • Eric | January 30, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”213093″]The new US Soccer jersey looks pretty decent. Although I really like the last white jersey, I was always bothered with the stripes always being on only one sock and on the back of one of the legs on the shorts, weird. Hopefully this design will only carry over to the socks, which should look pretty sharp. I’d love if they keep this and maybe that blue pin-striped jersey they wore last year, at least they’re different. They really do need an identity, kit-wise, that could be it. With yearly updates from Nike of course.[/quote]

    I LOVE the current home whites with the RED/BLUE stripe down the left side, the badge inset in the stripe, and the verticle striping down only the left sock. It works for me, it’s unique and creates a “signature” look, to stand out from the many other majority white shirt countries. I do agree that the badge itself is substandard.

    I wish they would stick with that design (any design?), and then play around with the design of their road blues and their third change kit year by year. Nations with iconic looks still tweak their second and third jerseys on a fairly regular basis. (Argentina, perhaps the most recognizable “Home” kit in international football, has had several road kits over the years, most recently a simple Navy blue stock Adidas template . . . )

  • john | January 30, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    Found this in John Buccigross’ new article. I don’t remember any pics that showed the Massachusetts Bicentennial patch on BOTH shoulders.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | January 30, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”213290″][quote comment=”213273″][quote comment=”213247″]bryan station hs in lexington, ky has an interesting font on their bball unis.[/quote]

    Holy crap!!! I’m not sure that I want to confess that I went to Bryan Station. But, I guess I just did. And just try to find the Defenders logo anywhere on the official site. I found it, but it was at the alumni site.[/quote]

    Interesting? Maybe if you’re a graffiti artist ;-)[/quote]

    Well, maybe it is appropriate then. Bryan Station has never had the reputation of being on the ‘right’ side of town.

  • Rich | January 30, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    I like the Beavers’ new logo too, but I find the argument interesting regarding the hither or yon effect of the word and bat. I wonder if somebody of skill could put a shadow on the bat to give the appearance of some depth between bat and “L”?

  • bmarlowe | January 30, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    Paul says: even though there’s nothing vintage about wearing a solid jersey with white pants.
    _______________________________

    Not so. This was not so uncommon in the 1890’s, for example. Hazelton Penn State League 1896; Fall River New England League 1897 (light jerseys, dark pants); There are other examples if you search around.

  • John | January 30, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”213266″]Maybe uni-watcher Nicole from Wisconsin can answer this question:

    Did I totally miss the Brewers Fan Fest and/or Winter Warm Up? Did I miss anything special? And when was/is it?[/quote]

    The Winter Warm Up was on the 15th. I wasn’t there, but Fox Sports North aired a program from the Fest.

  • douglas | January 30, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”213041″]Big thumbs up here for the new USA football kit.

    Umbro have lost the plot with England of late, pretty much given up on the new designs so instead decided to buy a 1986 retro shirt recently. That’s much more like it.[/quote]
    You can’t blame them cuz they wouldn’t sell much these days! Also they can now benefit from all this new found Nike creativity…I like the US Soccer jersey and i DO believe they’re really establishing a brand, if not on the field (#20 not that bad anway, check last WC’s), but by being the most stylish team of the last decade, no matter what they wore.
    This last design might be a little lazy though. And maybe the Adidas “questionmark” template is not the best thing to plagiate, even for a training shirt. But the white/navy/red color scheme itself is a winner. It works perfectly with the crest, which is a great design too.

  • Jon | January 30, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    Hey Paul thanks for the mention! Mark, I didn’t run that photo in the book but I love it I had scanned a version from Robert Whiting’s book at the old site you might recall.

    I’d like to see the Mets give Santana No. 47 just to be sure Glavine knows how quickly he’ll be forgotten. Of course Glavine and the Wilpons are too tight for that to happen.

    Paul, terrific peice on beefsteaks. I had three heart attacks just reading it.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”213296″][quote comment=”213290″][quote comment=”213273″][quote comment=”213247″]bryan station hs in lexington, ky has an interesting font on their bball unis.[/quote]

    Holy crap!!! I’m not sure that I want to confess that I went to Bryan Station. But, I guess I just did. And just try to find the Defenders logo anywhere on the official site. I found it, but it was at the alumni site.[/quote]

    Interesting? Maybe if you’re a graffiti artist ;-)[/quote]

    Well, maybe it is appropriate then. Bryan Station has never had the reputation of being on the ‘right’ side of town.[/quote]

    If you look closely at the lower left leg of the player in white. you will see the swoosh, meaning that the uniforms are Nike made. However, it would seem to me that the team might have bought the unis complete with numbers and had an “after-market” screenprinter perhaps place the graffiti wordmark on the jerseys.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”213302″][quote comment=”213041″]Big thumbs up here for the new USA football kit.

    Umbro have lost the plot with England of late, pretty much given up on the new designs so instead decided to buy a 1986 retro shirt recently. That’s much more like it.[/quote]
    You can’t blame them cuz they wouldn’t sell much these days! Also they can now benefit from all this new found Nike creativity…I like the US Soccer jersey and i DO believe they’re really establishing a brand, if not on the field (#20 not that bad anway, check last WC’s), but by being the most stylish team of the last decade, no matter what they wore.
    This last design might be a little lazy though. And maybe the Adidas “questionmark” template is not the best thing to plagiate, even for a training shirt. But the white/navy/red color scheme itself is a winner. It works perfectly with the crest, which is a great design too.[/quote]

    At least the men’s jersey doesn’t look like this atrocity that the women sported not too long ago. Besides, it could have been a lot worse

  • muddlehead | January 30, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    another vote for the revised bat over letters beavers logo. awesome work. any takers execs see the revision and go with it instead?

  • Joey Guns | January 30, 2008 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”213258″]I live 10 minutes from Hasbrouck Heights..and I now need to figure out where and when the next beefsteak is..cause I’m totally going to one..haha.

    I really like the Beavers’ new sets..the logo is like new-age old school..gotta dig it.[/quote]

    The restaurant called “Fiesta” on Route 17 in Wood Ridge has them all the time….

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | January 30, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    weve talked about the influx of gray uni’s in college hoop. oklhoma, osu, uconn…
    although we thought this started in columbus in the mid to late 80’s, it may have started in vegas around the same time
    http://farm3.static....

  • James Craven | January 30, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”213138″]“Like most things that are just meant to build short-term results (like “The Best Team You’ve Never Heard Of”.)[/quote]

    And the coach who fucked up their chances then lost his job by switching goalies when pulling the hot hand for someone older and more experienced….

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | January 30, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”213054″][quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..[/quote]

    its interesting how spike’s giant jersey with the super bowl patch, is the blue one, yet the jints are going to be wearing their white ones.

    does that mean that retail jerseys with the super bowl xlii patch are being sold in the white, dark and alternate jerseys of each team?

  • ScottyJ in WV | January 30, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    I like the new Beavers unis as well. Very nice.

    Has anybody mentioned the Quad Cities team going back to the River Bandits name, or did I just miss it?

    Good to see them going back to that, but I did like the Swing’s home cap.

  • Paul R. | January 30, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    Congrats on your Mets landing Santana. We are going to miss him here in Minnesota! But we are getting used to this kind of thing here(losing big name star players for a handful of prospects or next to nothing). Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, now Santana.

  • Robb | January 30, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”213320″][quote comment=”213054″][quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..[/quote]

    its interesting how spike’s giant jersey with the super bowl patch, is the blue one, yet the jints are going to be wearing their white ones.

    does that mean that retail jerseys with the super bowl xlii patch are being sold in the white, dark and alternate jerseys of each team?[/quote]

    From the worn out Reebok logo, I’d guess he just had the patch thrown on an older jersey and he is only wearing a screen-printed jersey. The patch looks a little small, too. Anyone spot the logo creep on the camera man at the bottom of the screen?

  • Joe H | January 30, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”213298″]I like the Beavers’ new logo too, but I find the argument interesting regarding the hither or yon effect of the word and bat. I wonder if somebody of skill could put a shadow on the bat to give the appearance of some depth between bat and “L”?[/quote]

    The shadow would not be between bat and “L” – it would be between bat and “A” because of the way the highlight is hitting the bat. And it just looks weird.

  • derek | January 30, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    The Portland Beavers new logo is EXACTLY as it should be. The bat DOES overlap the text at the bottom of the logo and does not at the top. This places the character and his bat in space. When actually holding a bat the hands tend to be more forward than the barrel of the bat. The logo gives a depth that is rarely seen.

  • bigmak | January 30, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    The reason why football teams were jerseys at media day is because there are always a ton of media there, who have no clue who any of the players are without their numbers– and plenty who don’t know who they are WITH their numbers. I was at an Ohio State football media event prior to their leaving Columbus for New Orleans, players come through in their normal workout clothes and I heard a handful of reporters complaining that they didn’t know who was who without their jerseys.

  • Jersey Dave | January 30, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    Good old North Jersey beefsteaks. I live right next to Heights. 201 is here!

  • WeatherManNX01 | January 30, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    Good God, we have the most dull soccer uniforms on the planet. From white to gray. Whoo. Give us a red and a blue! Something with character and identity (well…a different identity from “boring”).

    Now, the US Women’s gold jerseys…even if the players aren’t that fond of them, those are at least good-looking jerseys. How did the women get better jerseys than the men? Oh, right, they can actually win World Cups…

    (At least the new men’s unis don’t have those doofy numbers in a circle on the front. Is that an identifier or a bullseye for the other team to aim for?)

  • Dane | January 30, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    Shall we just go ahead and ask Sheep Station to grill up a bunch of tenderloin for Saturday?

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    this was always MY favorite US kit

  • Rob B | January 30, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    Warning eye protection may be needed according to philly.com

    The gold suit

    Find a way to check out Bob Huggins tonight. In his first game against his former team, Cincinnati, the West Virginia coach, in honor of his alma mater’s blue-and-gold colors, will be decked out in a gold suit.

  • KBrew | January 30, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    I wasn’t planning on getting the US home jersey this rotation anyway but today sealed it for me. Yes, I realize that the look is never going to be exactly the same from jersey to jersey. Just wanted to see the vertical stripes (or diagonal a la ’50). ‘Bradley 4’ away top for me please.

    [quote comment=”213320″][quote comment=”213054″][quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..[/quote]

    its interesting how spike’s giant jersey with the super bowl patch, is the blue one, yet the jints are going to be wearing their white ones.

    does that mean that retail jerseys with the super bowl xlii patch are being sold in the white, dark and alternate jerseys of each team?[/quote]

    They already are. I was in Modell’s yesterday and they had home and away replicas with the Super Bowl logo screened onto the left chest. Looked like crap.

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”213332″][quote comment=”213320″][quote comment=”213054″][quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..[/quote]

    its interesting how spike’s giant jersey with the super bowl patch, is the blue one, yet the jints are going to be wearing their white ones.

    does that mean that retail jerseys with the super bowl xlii patch are being sold in the white, dark and alternate jerseys of each team?[/quote]

    From the worn out Reebok logo, I’d guess he just had the patch thrown on an older jersey and he is only wearing a screen-printed jersey. The patch looks a little small, too. Anyone spot the logo creep on the camera man at the bottom of the screen?[/quote]

    Conventional wisdom states that Spike Lee, of all people, woudn’t wear an old worn out version of anything. Come on, this guy?

  • Greg V. | January 30, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    Uni Watch has ruined me. My team signs a new quarterback today and my first thought is “hmm…I wonder how they will handle the jerseys.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 3:05 pm |

    More soccer jersey fun and games, from MLS.

    And I can’t believe we’re talking about soccer on this holiest of days, The Wednesday Before The Super Bowl.

    [quote]
    How did the women get better jerseys than the men? Oh, right, they can actually win World Cups…[/quote]

    Not lately.

    The rest of the world had a huge head start on us in the men’s game. We had a huge head start on the rest of the world in the women’s game.

    Apple, meet orange.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote]And I can’t believe we’re talking about soccer on this holiest of days, The Wednesday Before The Super Bowl.[/quote]

    you had a valid point last monday

    who’s complaining aboot footy posts today?

  • joe | January 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”213242″][quote comment=”213225″]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4295/nabbypicmf5.jpg

    Looks like Evgeni Nabokov of the Sharks was wearing the old Sharks socks last night. Isn’t that a fineable offense?[/quote]

    If only Tampa Bay, Calgary, and Ottawa would wear their old socks.[/quote]

    Not likely to be fined, goalies can pretty much wear any socks since they don’t get seen much.

  • Joey Guns | January 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”213324″]Congrats on your Mets landing Santana. We are going to miss him here in Minnesota! But we are getting used to this kind of thing here(losing big name star players for a handful of prospects or next to nothing). Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, now Santana.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Big Papi….(I know the Twins released him)

  • Joey Guns | January 30, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”213354″]I wasn’t planning on getting the US home jersey this rotation anyway but today sealed it for me. Yes, I realize that the look is never going to be exactly the same from jersey to jersey. Just wanted to see the vertical stripes (or diagonal a la ’50). ‘Bradley 4’ away top for me please.

    [quote comment=”213320″][quote comment=”213054″][quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..[/quote]

    its interesting how spike’s giant jersey with the super bowl patch, is the blue one, yet the jints are going to be wearing their white ones.

    does that mean that retail jerseys with the super bowl xlii patch are being sold in the white, dark and alternate jerseys of each team?[/quote]

    They already are. I was in Modell’s yesterday and they had home and away replicas with the Super Bowl logo screened onto the left chest. Looked like crap.[/quote]

    Here’s the Giants website:

    http://www.giantspro...

    That’s weird, they don’t sell a Burress jersey in white, only blue. Also, the personalized jerseys are in blue only.

  • jesse | January 30, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”213320″][quote comment=”213054″][quote comment=”213047″]denzel & spike saw the knicks & lake show in LA last night…who would have thought denzel would violate uni-taste whilst spike ALMOST got it?[/quote]

    Nice to see Spike with the Super Bowl XLII logo on his jersey already…..[/quote]

    its interesting how spike’s giant jersey with the super bowl patch, is the blue one, yet the jints are going to be wearing their white ones.

    does that mean that retail jerseys with the super bowl xlii patch are being sold in the white, dark and alternate jerseys of each team?[/quote]

    They sold black and white versions of the jersey with the Super Bowl patch the year the Steelers went.

    I met someone at a game that had a beautiful authentic black Steelers Jersey, it was really nice. But she had sewn a Super Bowl Patch on to it, I was stunned and asked why she would do something so crazy to like a $350 jersey.

    She answered, “I like the black jersey better, what’s the difference?” Some people just don’t get it.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”213362″][quote]And I can’t believe we’re talking about soccer on this holiest of days, The Wednesday Before The Super Bowl.[/quote]

    you had a valid point last monday

    who’s complaining aboot footy posts today?[/quote]

    Just being pre-emptively snarky, that’s all.

  • jesse | January 30, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    Conventional wisdom states that Spike Lee, of all people, woudn’t wear an old worn out version of anything. Come on, this guy?

    Why would you go trough all the trouble of buying a replica jersey to sew the patch on anyway.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”213372″]She answered, “I like the black jersey better, what’s the difference?” Some people just don’t get it.[/quote]

    Though, to be fair: at the end of the day, it’s her jersey. Her $350. Her life. Her fandom. We may obsess about inseams and font styles and logo creep, but at the end of the day, it’s about how you take your coffee, innit?

    If someone wants to put #1 and ROBERTSON on the back of a Milwaukee Bucks 2007-2008 jersey for the Big O, knock yourself out. If you want a Joe Jurevicious creamsickle Bucs jersey, who am I to say you can’t have it?

    It’s all vitally important and completely trivial, all at the same time.

  • Southend James | January 30, 2008 at 3:35 pm |

    If we’re talking football (soccer) teams changing their kit styles, check out this site

    Histories of all the kits for every major team in England and Scotland. Apologies if it has already been posted, I’m new here!

    Just goes to show how easily teams change their colours. In the 22 years I’ve been following my team Southend United, we’ve been royal blue/yellow, all royal blue, royal blue and white and now navy blue. Not to mention the total abomination of 1996-98.

    Please take a look people, it has to be seen to be believed. Like Bart Simpson sticking his head out of the player’s shorts.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”213373″]Just being pre-emptively snarky, that’s all.[/quote]

    oh…ok ;)

    [quote comment=”213376″]If you want a Joe Jurevicious creamsickle Bucs jersey, who am I to say you can’t have it?[/quote]

    HA! i actually HAVE one of those…bought it when i was engaged to a lass down in winter haven…i still have the jersey, but she’s long gone

  • Stuby | January 30, 2008 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”213368″][quote comment=”213324″]Congrats on your Mets landing Santana. We are going to miss him here in Minnesota! But we are getting used to this kind of thing here(losing big name star players for a handful of prospects or next to nothing). Randy Moss, Kevin Garnett, now Santana.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Big Papi….(I know the Twins released him)[/quote]
    As long as the Twins can continue to make lopsided deals like the Pierzynski for Boof/Nathan/Liriano trade, they should be fine. Of course you’ll need a dumbass like Brian Sabean on the other end of the deal.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 3:42 pm |

    Oh, I know that there’s a long and storied tradition in soccer for changing uniforms. My wish that we could get at least a modicum of tradition is just part of the equation.

    When it comes to US soccer, part of my problem is that most of the designs we’ve had over the years suck, number one. And the other (perhaps the bigger part) is that this constant redesigning is little more than a money-grab on the part of Nike and the USSF. Soccer’s got some popularity in this country now. The National Team has some name recognition and a group of fans who will travel halfway around the world to see them.

    And they’re taking advantage of that with blatant money grabs on an annual basis. I guess that’s what I’m on about more than anything else.

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”213380″][quote comment=”213376″]If you want a Joe Jurevicious creamsickle Bucs jersey, who am I to say you can’t have it?[/quote]

    HA! i actually HAVE one of those…bought it when i was engaged to a lass down in winter haven…i still have the jersey, but she’s long gone[/quote]

    SWEET! I have a Joe J. white replica.

    Maybe I’ll put a Super Bowl XXXVII patch on it! ;)

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”213381″]As long as the Twins can continue to make lopsided deals like the Pierzynski for Boof/Nathan/Liriano trade, they should be fine. Of course you’ll need a dumbass like Brian Sabean on the other end of the deal.[/quote]

    my faith in omar has partly been restored…but lets wait 4-5 yars to see who’s laughing then…it looks like a steal now, but that’s what we said when we traded for sweet music in 1989

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  • Stuby | January 30, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    I’ve got to get something off my chest that’s been bugging me, and I apologize if it has already been addressed. Why the hell does the Univ. of Tennessee Men’s B-Ball team wear orange, black and white while the Lady Vols wear orange, white and powder blue? Same school. Should have the same colors, right?

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”213384″][quote comment=”213380″][quote comment=”213376″]If you want a Joe Jurevicious creamsickle Bucs jersey, who am I to say you can’t have it?[/quote]

    HA! i actually HAVE one of those…bought it when i was engaged to a lass down in winter haven…i still have the jersey, but she’s long gone[/quote]

    SWEET! I have a Joe J. white replica.

    Maybe I’ll put a Super Bowl XXXVII patch on it! ;)[/quote]

    maybe i’ll wear the creamsickle 99 83 JJ to sheep station

  • Matty B | January 30, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  • Corey | January 30, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”213058″]Here’s a video link to highlights of said game featuring TOSU and WE ARE PENN STATE[/quote]

    I’m confused. PSU has a basketball team?

  • William Harrison | January 30, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”213295″]Found this in John Buccigross’ new article. I don’t remember any pics that showed the Massachusetts Bicentennial patch on BOTH shoulders.[/quote]

    Yeah, it was on both shoulders in 1975-76, if I recall. Went to the “drunk bear” shoulder patches in 1976-77, and kep them until they redesigned the unis in 1995-96 for the demolition of the Boston Garden opening of the FleetCenter.

  • jesse | January 30, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”213376″][quote comment=”213372″]She answered, “I like the black jersey better, what’s the difference?” Some people just don’t get it.[/quote]

    Though, to be fair: at the end of the day, it’s her jersey. Her $350. Her life. Her fandom. We may obsess about inseams and font styles and logo creep, but at the end of the day, it’s about how you take your coffee, innit?

    If someone wants to put #1 and ROBERTSON on the back of a Milwaukee Bucks 2007-2008 jersey for the Big O, knock yourself out. If you want a Joe Jurevicious creamsickle Bucs jersey, who am I to say you can’t have it?

    It’s all vitally important and completely trivial, all at the same time.[/quote]

    Yea, that was kind of my point.

    To me it was like colorizing the first fifteen minutes of the Wizard of Oz, it completely ruined the jersey. I wouldn’t wear it if she gave it to me for free, and it was beautiful. She couldn’t have cared less that it was no longer the exact right thing. I almost envied her.

  • Mardi | January 30, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    i was on a pittsburgh penguins blog and it said something about petr sykora wearing his wedding ring under his glove so i googled it and came up with this from the post gazette. scroll down to third period 15:18. sorry no pics

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”213404″] She couldn’t have cared less that it was no longer the exact right thing. I almost envied her.[/quote]

    I don’t think there’s envy or pity to be had. It simply is.

    I don’t collect garden gnomes or drink latte or enjoy Daughtry. But others do. More power to them.

  • Juan Grande | January 30, 2008 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”213386″]Speaking of jerseys that are just WRONG.[/quote]

    Wow, I’d say that is a little past “slightly irregular.” Then again, the thought of Warren Sapp (wearing a WR’s number) going across the middle on a passing route is quite hilarious.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote]To me it was like colorizing the first fifteen minutes of the Wizard of Oz, it completely ruined the jersey. I wouldn’t wear it if she gave it to me for free, and it was beautiful. She couldn’t have cared less that it was no longer the exact right thing. I almost envied her.[/quote]

    my god jesse…that’s about the most beautiful thing i’ve ever heard…

    i guess we all kind of feel like that…i just never heard it put into…words before

  • ScottyJ in WV | January 30, 2008 at 4:32 pm |
  • Stuby | January 30, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”213421″][quote comment=”213386″]Speaking of jerseys that are just WRONG.[/quote]

    Wow, I’d say that is a little past “slightly irregular.” Then again, the thought of Warren Sapp (wearing a WR’s number) going across the middle on a passing route is quite hilarious.[/quote]
    Hilarious but true. Sapp has 2 career TD receptions. BTW, who knew his middle name was Carlos?

  • douglas | January 30, 2008 at 4:34 pm |

    A lot of you who posted about US Soccer need to understand that FIFA is neither NBA nor NFL or any other league. Teams identity is more about results, even style of play (fighting spirit, kick n rush, garra, joga bonito, french flair, toque, catenaccio, etc…). Just look at the unis : no national team has EVER competed twice in the same outfit, at least in the modern era. Unlike US major leagues, colors never change, logos are about 2×2 inches (vs 1+ sq.foot in the NHL), and are rarely modified. There are no franchises, so 80% of the games are friendlies or qualifiers, no one has a guaranteed spot in the 16/32 continental, olympic or world contenders. Having to “build a brand” in such an unpredictable context has to be about more than a uniform design.
    IMO, US Soccer have just done great over the las 20 yrs by establishing a spirit, a style of play, by being a regular top 20 with serious recognition worldwide. And YES I think they also brought some novelty through the unis, wether Nike or Adidas, wich proves it has nothing to do with the supplier. Just check where the most innovative designs came from lately : USA, Korea, Japan, and now China.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 30, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”213236″][quote comment=”213223″][quote comment=”213215″]As for the discussion about the US needing a recognizable consistent uniform, frankly, that’s a bunch of BS. As someone else said, the home kit of white jerseys and blue shorts is the US signature.[/quote]

    My point is this: How can it be a signature when we only wear it (or variations of it) half the time?

    [quote]
    Acting like the US team doesn’t ‘get it’ because they have differing styles of home jerseys is ignoring the entire sport.[/quote]

    Didn’t say they didn’t “get it”TM

    Said I’d prefer it if they’d pick a jersey and stick with it instead of thinking they have to have a new one every year.

    [quote]I prefer the previous home jerseys with the red and blue offset stripe, because I think it looked classic and unique, but just because it’s gone doesn’t mean I look at the US jerseys like they’re doing something different than every other team in the world does.[/quote]

    Every other team….except Argentina. And Italy. And, you know, teams like that.[/quote]

    I’m gonna have to agree. Although many teams change their template from year to year, very few change the entire concept from jersey to socks. It’s pretty bush. If they acctually did stick with white one blue, and blue on white, that’d be great, but they don’t. It’s a fricken crap shoot trying to figure out what they might wear from game to game. All we’re asking for is consistancy, we care if they switch templates.[/quote]
    Blue/blue and white/white combos occur when the other team wears the same color shorts, but not the same color shirt. Man United swap their black and white shorts underneath their trademark red shirt all the time. I don’t think these count as different uniforms.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | January 30, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”213430″]A lot of you who posted about US Soccer need to understand that FIFA is neither NBA nor NFL or any other league. Teams identity is more about results, even style of play (fighting spirit, kick n rush, garra, joga bonito, french flair, toque, catenaccio, etc…). Just look at the unis : no national team has EVER competed twice in the same outfit, at least in the modern era. Unlike US major leagues, colors never change, logos are about 2×2 inches (vs 1+ sq.foot in the NHL), and are rarely modified. There are no franchises, so 80% of the games are friendlies or qualifiers, no one has a guaranteed spot in the 16/32 continental, olympic or world contenders. Having to “build a brand” in such an unpredictable context has to be about more than a uniform design.
    IMO, US Soccer have just done great over the las 20 yrs by establishing a spirit, a style of play, by being a regular top 20 with serious recognition worldwide. And YES I think they also brought some novelty through the unis, wether Nike or Adidas, wich proves it has nothing to do with the supplier. Just check where the most innovative designs came from lately : USA, Korea, Japan, and now China.[/quote]

    Maybe, just speculating here, but maybe that’s why soccer isn’t as big in the United States as football, hockey, baseball, basketball. I know when I am channel surfing (a popular sport amongst American males) I’ll stop for a second at a sports event, see who’s playing and move on if I’m not interested. I never recognize international soccer teams.

  • Rich | January 30, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    Thanks Joe H for the work, but I meant to change the existing logo to place a little depth on the bat. I think it looks a little like the words are painted on the bat. All in all, very cool indeed.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”213425″]….and Paul Lukas’ heart begins to race….[/quote]

    WOW! Bee-yoo-tee-ful!
    ‘Specially since the “A” in “OAKLAND” is a nice complement to the “A” on the caps

  • Al | January 30, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    One thing about the new DC United jerseys … the numbers. I don’t see an MLS logo on the lower edge. Are these Adidas numerals or were these agreed on by MLS? Seems to be a ripoff of Puma.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”213446″][quote comment=”213425″]….and Paul Lukas’ heart begins to race….[/quote]

    WOW! Bee-yoo-tee-ful!
    ‘Specially since the “A” in “OAKLAND” is a nice complement to the “A” on the caps[/quote]

    Forgot the link to the hat

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”213450″][quote comment=”213446″][quote comment=”213425″]….and Paul Lukas’ heart begins to race….[/quote]

    WOW! Bee-yoo-tee-ful!
    ‘Specially since the “A” in “OAKLAND” is a nice complement to the “A” on the caps[/quote]

    Forgot the link to the hat[/quote]

    it’s almost like they did it on purpose

    seriously though…i am not usually, if ever, a fan of OLD ENGLISH being used to spell out full words, particularly when it’s ALL CAPS…

    but damn…i gotta make an exception for “OAKLAND”

    that shit is gorgeous

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 5:14 pm |

    warrick dunn brings home the hardware

    i know he does good things with his foundation and shit, but is this award really necessary?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 30, 2008 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”213463″][quote comment=”213450″][quote comment=”213446″][quote comment=”213425″]….and Paul Lukas’ heart begins to race….[/quote]

    WOW! Bee-yoo-tee-ful!
    ‘Specially since the “A” in “OAKLAND” is a nice complement to the “A” on the caps[/quote]

    Forgot the link to the hat[/quote]

    it’s almost like they did it on purpose

    seriously though…i am not usually, if ever, a fan of OLD ENGLISH being used to spell out full words, particularly when it’s ALL CAPS…

    but damn…i gotta make an exception for “OAKLAND”

    that shit is gorgeous[/quote]

    [sniff, sniff]….is that SARCASM I’m smelling? ;-)
    Seriously, considering that Los Tigres de Detroit have some disparity between Old English “D’s” on hats versus jerseys….that Oakland vest is a thing of beauty.
    Now, how to get my hands on it without the wife noticing that the checking account is $ 500 lighter…..

  • Myles | January 30, 2008 at 5:17 pm |

    Hey everyone, I came across this in a blog over the last couple days. I don’t know if this has been mentioned here before, but the Red Sox are going to be wearing the EMC logo on their unis while in Japan.

    Also, the U of MN is releasing their new football uniforms during national signing day on February 6th. Does anyone know what they’ll look like or have a preview?

  • David Kalan | January 30, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    Did anyone notice that the teams during media day neither the Giants nor Patriots were wearing those Captain’s patches that every team wore during the regular season? Or these being dropped for the Super Bowl?

  • Seth H | January 30, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    check out the photoshop on the back of the post.

    It is better than the one on the front where they put him in a 2 year old batting practice cap and did not bother to change the Twins’ pinstriped jersey.

    Sorry I can’t find a link to it now.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 5:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”213480″]Did anyone notice that the teams during media day neither the Giants nor Patriots were wearing those Captain’s patches that every team wore during the regular season? Or these being dropped for the Super Bowl?[/quote]

    good catch

    maybe they haven’t named them yet or perhaps there will be a special “c” for the jersey?

  • KT | January 30, 2008 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”213443″]Maybe, just speculating here, but maybe that’s why soccer isn’t as big in the United States as football, hockey, baseball, basketball. I know when I am channel surfing (a popular sport amongst American males) I’ll stop for a second at a sports event, see who’s playing and move on if I’m not interested. I never recognize international soccer teams.[/quote]

    Nah.

    If anything, that level of soccer is the most popular type here (well, maybe the English league, and with the growing hispanic population, the Mexican League).

    Anecdotes aside, the reasons why soccer (particularly our domestic men’s outdoor league) is marginalized as a spectator sport in this country are numerous, deep-seated, societal and long-standing. Uniforms, diving, low scoring, stuff like that are all small factors, but the societal forces are the strong ones. While I don’t agree with all of his details (and there are some pretty glaring errors of fact), I recommend Markovitz’s Offside: Soccer and American Exceptionalism, which, by and large, is a good, in-depth look at those forces and I do agree with a lot of his conclusions.

    As for no team ever competing twice in the same look at the World Cup, I give you Argentina 2006 and Argentina 2002. And France 2002 vs. France 2006.

    Identical? No. I’m not talking about identical. I’m talking about a common thread. Not coming up with a new kit for the first round of World Cup qualifying and then another one for the hexagonal and “Oooh, look! Here’s the one we’re going to wear in South Africa, you have to get one!”

    Today’s shirt release looks like it should be worn on the golf course.

  • odessa steps | January 30, 2008 at 6:12 pm |

    I have one of those old Lucky Beavers t-shirts that I think I got from Ebbets Field Flannels.

    love the logo

  • =bg= | January 30, 2008 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”213425″]….and Paul Lukas’ heart begins to race….[/quote]

    they coulda introduced an alt like this. but…NO. BLACK!!!! (makes vomiting noises)

  • Dom | January 30, 2008 at 6:17 pm |

    Carson Palmer may have his brother Jordan backing him up next year

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 6:22 pm |

    Methinks the 3 looks very familiar!

  • MPowers1634 | January 30, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”213507″]Methinks the 3 looks very familiar![/quote]

    Try this for the second link.

  • Richard | January 30, 2008 at 6:31 pm |

    I haven’t seen anything in the comments on this, but ESPN.com has a piece about best QBs by uniform number:

    http://sports.espn.g...

    This seems like Paul’s territory to me, but they handed it off to someone else. Were they being disloyal, or was Paul busy working on his NY Times piece (which was excellent, BTW)?

  • Mike | January 30, 2008 at 7:59 pm |

    I had an authentic Maroney navy blue Patriots jersey that I put the SB patch on. It should look nice at the super bowl party sunday. I’m also thinking of putting the patches from all 4 Patriots s.b’s on a Brady jerseybut I wanted some expert opinion before I did, so what do people think about this.

  • GoMac | January 30, 2008 at 8:00 pm |

    Ah man I’ve been to like a thousand award dinners at the Fiesta..I gotta go to a beefsteak there for sure..

    And hell yes 201 is here. haha.

  • BCrisp | January 30, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    Deal or No Deal is having an NFL night. The suitcase grils look mighty fine wearing only jerseys. Also most of the crowd and some famous NFL players are there wearing jerseys.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 8:33 pm |

    GOGGLE alert

    huggins in gold

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 8:42 pm |

    think the newest met pitcher will be photoshopped all over the back of ny’s tabloids tomorrow?

  • Mark K | January 30, 2008 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”213536″]I had an authentic Maroney navy blue Patriots jersey that I put the SB patch on. It should look nice at the super bowl party sunday. I’m also thinking of putting the patches from all 4 Patriots s.b’s on a Brady jerseybut I wanted some expert opinion before I did, so what do people think about this.[/quote]
    I’d wait and see if they win first.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 9:05 pm |

    this is schweet: vrabel rocks tippit at excel-deuce practice

  • Mark M | January 30, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”213449″]One thing about the new DC United jerseys … the numbers. I don’t see an MLS logo on the lower edge. Are these Adidas numerals or were these agreed on by MLS? Seems to be a ripoff of Puma.[/quote]

    The DCU Merchandise pusher on BigSoccer says those numbers are the new MLS standard. They will have the league logo, but it will be on those horrid numbers almost mocking the “TRADITION” above it.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 30, 2008 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”213511″][quote comment=”213507″]Methinks the 3 looks very familiar![/quote]

    Try this for the second link.[/quote]

    I thought the same thing! Everybody agree the Oakland vest is a thing of “BEAUTY”….now we have to deal with a stupid black alternate jersey that totally blemishes such a stand out uniform. I hope they didn’t get rid of their original Green alternate.

  • James Craven | January 30, 2008 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”213547″]?GOGGLE alert

    “Huggins in gold.”[/quote]

    *insert “Ze Goggles, Zet Do Nothing!” picture*

  • Robb | January 30, 2008 at 10:10 pm |

    No pics, but apparently Snickers is sponsoring Pros vs Joes, all the “joes” have the Snickers logo on their jerseys, 3 times on their football jerseys.

  • LI Phil | January 30, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”213584″]*insert “Ze Goggles, Zet Do Nothing!” picture*[/quote]

    just this once, for you, james

  • TOG | January 30, 2008 at 11:04 pm |

    At my request, Nolan also sent along a photo of his sweater’s inner label, which is a gorgeous piece of art in itself. …

    Okay, enough, it’s an orange friggin sweater…ugh.

  • TOG | January 30, 2008 at 11:12 pm |

    My favorite part of the Portland Beavers’ new logo is the fact that he is CHOKING UP on the bat!! It’s a great look and the uniforms are great. I don’t necessarily LOVE the idea of the
    “rusted cream” look for the home uni’s, but all the same, I think they did a solid job

    Agreed. One great looking minor league uniform out of 125…

  • Robb | January 30, 2008 at 11:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”213485″][quote comment=”213480″]Did anyone notice that the teams during media day neither the Giants nor Patriots were wearing those Captain’s patches that every team wore during the regular season? Or these being dropped for the Super Bowl?[/quote]

    good catch

    maybe they haven’t named them yet or perhaps there will be a special “c” for the jersey?[/quote]

    Well, the Pats havent worn them all season, neither have the Chargers (I think) or the Ravens. I brought it up a couple of weeks ago, their supposed to be optional. As for the Giants, it looks like they’re not even wearing their game jerseys so, it shouldnt surprise you that they didnt throw the extra patch on.

  • Mike D | January 30, 2008 at 11:34 pm |

    I know this has been said by others, but I’m jumping on the bandwagon:

    Those Oakland yellow vests would make way better alternates (and much more sense) then the black jerseys recently released.

  • Patrick | January 31, 2008 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”213547″]GOGGLE alert

    huggins in gold[/quote]

    Looks like a real estate agent!

  • Big L | January 31, 2008 at 12:06 am |

    The y on Brandon Roy’s jersey was far apart from the rest of his name during tonight’s game. If anyone noticed, you ocould see a close up during the 4th quarter late in the game. Didn’t get a pic and can’t find one online.

  • LI Phil | January 31, 2008 at 12:08 am |

    [quote comment=”213617″]The y on Brandon Roy’s jersey was far apart from the rest of his name during tonight’s game. If anyone noticed, you ocould see a close up during the 4th quarter late in the game. Didn’t get a pic and can’t find one online.[/quote]

    it is?

  • JoJo | January 31, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    Looking at the Portland Beavers home uniform unveiling from their website, the color looks more cream than the sand the Padres use on the road. It’s definitely a much lighter color than the Padres road’s.

  • Josh | January 31, 2008 at 6:43 pm |

    The new USA soccer shirt is ugly. I’m not a big fan of horizontal stripes for much of anything, and I agree with everyone else who’s said that they should establish a constant identity (yellow over blue for Brazil, green over yellow over red for Mexico, white and sky blue stripes for Argentina, etc.) going forward. There’s still plenty of room for varying designs within those templates if you’re concerned about selling more product.

  • Bowen | January 31, 2008 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”213098″][quote comment=”213088″]Urine?! I love cream-colored home unis (usually).[/quote]

    So do I — SF Giants, e.g. But this isn’t cream; it’s that yellow-ish tone that the Padres use. I stick to my urine comparison.[/quote]

    Actually, Paul, it is cream. Look at the photos, not that illustration where the grey is also too dark to be accurate. Personally, I think it looks good, but I wish the beaver was wearing the same uni as the team does. I especially love the old-school stripe that runs down the sleeves.

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