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Saturday Open Thread

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Some interesting tidbits from the France vs. Japan game in the American Football World Cup. Japan’s rising sun helmets were a plus, but the “Japan” on every nameplate, down the piping on the legs, and on the nose bumper amounted to overkill. France’s uniforms looked a little more understated and classy by comparison. The color combination of the teams remind you of anything? — Vince

 

68 comments to Saturday Open Thread

  • Chris | July 7, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    Not the best looking uniforms I have ever seen. One plus at least is no awful looking colored pants.

  • dirwuf | July 7, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    What I find interesting is that on the Japan leg piping, the writing starts at the bottom and goes up…

  • Jared | July 7, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    I just wonder why France’s helmet blue cannot match the blue of the jersey.
    Here’s hoping the USA comes out on top. Looking forward to seeing some other unis from this tournament.

  • Bill T. | July 7, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”115047″]What I find interesting is that on the Japan leg piping, the writing starts at the bottom and goes up…[/quote]

    That way, when the players are seated, the text “Japan” reads right-side up.

    As for France, their mismatch of helmets and jersey colors reminds me of another team that couldn’t quite match the shades of blue.

  • possum | July 7, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    Reminds me of the 80s Giants and Patriots.

  • John in Athens | July 7, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    Here’s the other Uni Watch-style email I got from Kitbag.com…

    Football Round Up – Part 2

    It’s been a busy week so far with some great new kits going on sale and some massive new signings see below for links to take you straight to the hottest new lines.

    The Mission Continues with Manchester United, with the eagerly awaited launch of the new home kit, available to pre order now for delivery on launch day 1st August. There is a new guy at number 10 with Wayne Rooney taking this legendary shirt, get yours now by clicking here.

    Liverpool’s record signing Fernando Torres has finally been unveiled at Anfield, get his name and number on either of the two Liverpool shirts including the new away shirt by clicking here.

    The second instalment from Spurs 125th anniversary collection is now available to pre order; guarantee yours now by clicking here.

    A new era is starting at Portsmouth FC. A great new home kit manufactured by Canterbury is available to pre order now by clicking here.

    Celtic’s new away shirt is now available to pre order; get the shirt of the champions now by clicking here.

    Thierry Henry’s new club, Barcelona, have got a great new home kit celebrating 50 years at the Nou Camp, get his name and number on the new shirt by clicking here.

    There was some discussion a while back about the Unicef logo on the Barca jersey. Barcelona are famous for not wearing a sponsor’s logo and apparently the Unicef logo is no exception as Barcelona wears the logo to support the charity and does not recieve sponsorship money from Unicef.

    There is a chapter devoted to the significance of Barcelona FC in the book “How Soccer Explains the World.” It’s a great book and I recommend it to anyone interested soccer, sports, politics, and / or world cultures.

  • The Ol Goaler | July 7, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    Another tidbit from the “World Cup” picture… Japan has their nation’s flag on their colored socks! Atta boy, Nippon!

  • Brian | July 7, 2007 at 10:25 am |

    If you want to check out what the helmet and logo for team usa look like

  • Brian | July 7, 2007 at 10:27 am |
  • Vin Barone | July 7, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    Why are they both wearing dark colors?

    Good thing this wasn’t an NFL game…#23 would have been fined for letting his socks fall down.

  • DJ | July 7, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    Barcelona are famous for not wearing a sponsor’s logo and apparently the Unicef logo is no exception as Barcelona wears the logo to support the charity and does not recieve sponsorship money from Unicef.

    In fact, Barcelona makes an annual donation to UNICEF in order to wear the logo.

  • dunford | July 7, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    Wait…where did the team in red hail from again?

  • joe | July 7, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    Japan won the game 48-0!?!

  • Kyle at IU | July 7, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    One thing i’m surprised no one has mentioned is the fact that both teams are wearing their color jerseys. True, one team is wearing red and the other is wearing blue, but you know this sort of thing would cause a problem if France played…say…the US.

    One thing i will say is that I’ve always wanted the Canadiens and Maple Leafs play a red vs. blue match. Maybe they could put one of those together at the Rogers Centre or something…

  • douglas | July 7, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    The french helmets explanation could just be lack of money. I remember they used to have darker jerseys a few years ago. I am not sure but if you look closer you might find mismatching helmets, socks and pants as well, just like in the french league. Anyway it’s cool they lost 48-zip because the headcoach refused to select the 07 mvp for this tournament.

  • Doug | July 7, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    Any of these football games on TV?

  • Drew | July 7, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    About the tournament: a whopping six teams are playing. Japan, Sweden, France, Germany, USA, and Korea. ‘All teams will play a round-robin within their group. The top team in each group will advance to the championship game. The second team in each group will play in the third place game and the third team in each group will play in the fifth place game.’

  • denverjason | July 7, 2007 at 12:29 pm |
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  • Kyle O. | July 7, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    i do like the litle flags on japan’s socks

  • My Name is Not Earl | July 7, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    UnderArmour continues to have a stranglehold over every sports team that appears in the movies of late. Last night, I saw a preview for that awful-looking movie in which Dwayne Johnson, a/k/a/ “The Rock,” is a pro football player who suddenly has to parent a young child he never knew he had. Guess who provides the uniforms for Johnson’s team? You guessed it . . . UA. I kept waiting for the little girl to say “click clack.”

  • Jack | July 7, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    Wait…this exists?

  • Jack | July 7, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    Oh, and, I’ve been in Ireland for a month and the new Arsenal away kit came out on Thursday and I saw this ad for it while I was looking in one of the shops…dig those socks.

  • Jason | July 7, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    From yesterday: Here’s the clip I was looking for referring to the “Ultimate Belt”:

    http://youtube.com/w...

    Enjoy.

  • Failos2002 | July 7, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    Interesting article here about the number 7 in MLB.

    Props for including the Seinfeld reference; negative props for goofing up the end of it.

  • Shane | July 7, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”115149″]Oh, and, I’ve been in Ireland for a month and the new Arsenal away kit came out on Thursday and I saw this ad for it while I was looking in one of the shops…dig those socks.[/quote]

    As much as it pains me to say it (I’m a Man United supporter), I’ve always loved Arsenal’s kits.

  • Chris Robblee | July 7, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    I just saw this uni-related article on MLB.com about the number 7. http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

  • Seattle Zach | July 7, 2007 at 1:59 pm |

    Interesting Roger Clemens Canada Day jersey on eBay right now…
    Blue Jays Clemens jersey

  • Brendan | July 7, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”115104″]One thing i will say is that I’ve always wanted the Canadiens and Maple Leafs play a red vs. blue match. Maybe they could put one of those together at the Rogers Centre or something…[/quote]

    You mean rouge (rouges? I’m not sure if that should be plural or not) vs. blue.

  • John in Athens | July 7, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”115190″]Interesting Roger Clemens Canada Day jersey on eBay right now…
    Blue Jays Clemens jersey[/quote]

    A Clemensless Clemens jersey?

    Oh, Canada!

  • Bill | July 7, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    Frances jerseys look like the old Giants jerseys

  • Josh Williams | July 7, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    Umm, i think logo creep would be an understatement here

  • Drew | July 7, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    don’t think its been brought up, but colorado got new football unis

    http://www.cubuffs.c...

  • Terry Mark | July 7, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”115223″]don’t think its been brought up, but colorado got new football unis

    http://www.cubuffs.c...

    Yes, it has. I tried to link, but I’m not able to get it work. Search the site for “colorado uniforms”.

  • jonah | July 7, 2007 at 4:08 pm |

    So, I was watching NFL Films’ “America’s Game” on the 1986 Giants, and during that year’s Divisional Playoff game against San Franciscop I noticed a uni-related oddity that I haven’t been able to find an explanation for. In this screencap from the episode it appears that a San Francisco defensive lineman is wearing a black facemask, unlike the grays everyone else is wearing. Is this a lighting trick or is there an actual discrepancy? Does anyone know?

  • David Sachs | July 7, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    Flip on the Yankees Angels game on FOX and look at the sleeves on Roger Clemens’ jersey. His right sleeve appears to be cut slightly shorter than his left. FOX even showed a recap of Clemens’ last start in which this was also visible.

  • Kris McInnis | July 7, 2007 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”115102″]Japan won the game 48-0!?![/quote]

    Japan is actually going for a three-peat, so they are somewhat of a favorite. (Granted, their second tournament win was only against 3 other teams and this year is the first year the US has participated.) And I mean, c’mon, they were playing France. The pre-game cheese and cigarettes probably got to them 3 minutes into the game and they just couldn’t keep up with Japanese efficiency.

  • Gill | July 7, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”115053″][quote comment=”115047″]What I find interesting is that on the Japan leg piping, the writing starts at the bottom and goes up…[/quote]

    That way, when the players are seated, the text “Japan” reads right-side up.

    As for France, their mismatch of helmets and jersey colors reminds me of another team that couldn’t quite match the shades of blue.[/quote]

    Bill has nailed this. When I saw this picture my thoughts turnrd to my Giants of Simms, LT and Carson or what is now our glory days. Springsteen reference intentional.

  • Mike Engle | July 7, 2007 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”115235″]Flip on the Yankees Angels game on FOX and look at the sleeves on Roger Clemens’ jersey. His right sleeve appears to be cut slightly shorter than his left. FOX even showed a recap of Clemens’ last start in which this was also visible.[/quote]
    In even bigger news, he’s rocking the lucky high pants!

  • Jason G. | July 7, 2007 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”115051″]I just wonder why France’s helmet blue cannot match the blue of the jersey.
    Here’s hoping the USA comes out on top. Looking forward to seeing some other unis from this tournament.[/quote]

    If you go to this link it shows five of the teams jerseys. I think I like Germany’s the best.

    http://wc2007.info/c...

  • Jeff | July 7, 2007 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”115235″]Flip on the Yankees Angels game on FOX and look at the sleeves on Roger Clemens’ jersey. His right sleeve appears to be cut slightly shorter than his left. FOX even showed a recap of Clemens’ last start in which this was also visible.[/quote]

    His sleeve is probably cut shorter b/c that is his pitching arm and it I’m sure he feels less restricted with the sleeve cut short.

  • ChrisS | July 7, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”115233″]So, I was watching NFL Films’ “America’s Game” on the 1986 Giants, and during that year’s Divisional Playoff game against San Franciscop I noticed a uni-related oddity that I haven’t been able to find an explanation for. In this screencap from the episode it appears that a San Francisco defensive lineman is wearing a black facemask, unlike the grays everyone else is wearing. Is this a lighting trick or is there an actual discrepancy? Does anyone know?[/quote]

    Looks grey to me. Darker because of the lighting, but still grey.

  • Geoff | July 7, 2007 at 6:25 pm |

    um, this is a random question, but does anyone know which of their home jerseys the Mets’ players will be wearing in the all-star game?

  • MJ | July 7, 2007 at 6:30 pm |

    Do any of you know how long Liverpool will be using their green/white alts? Are there plans to change them? If so, to what?

    Thanks

  • mooka | July 7, 2007 at 6:48 pm |

    Angels/Yanks game on Fox…when did Kyle Farnsworth start wearing specs? Don’t remember him using them as a Cub (Chicago fan here). Willits looking good in the socks department too.

  • Bill T. | July 7, 2007 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”115265″]um, this is a random question, but does anyone know which of their home jerseys the Mets’ players will be wearing in the all-star game?[/quote]

    There are no random questions on an open thread.

    That said, recent history suggests that the Amazins will wear this on Tuesday.

  • Bill T. | July 7, 2007 at 7:06 pm |

    Since the N.L. has been sucking big time in the All-Star Game recently, the Mets players should wear this in an effort to reverse the Senior Circuit’s fortunes.

  • Ryan | July 7, 2007 at 8:04 pm |

    I’m watching Copa America, Venezuela vs Uruguay. I have not been pleased with most of the uniforms during this tournament, especially all the piping. Watching this game one things I noticed about Uruguay is that the names on the back of the jerseys are not capitalized. Also, the Puma log creep is ridiculous. I count six puma logos (there is one on each shoulder that is tough to see in this picture). And then saw that even the captains arm band is nothing but a Puma ad.

  • odessasteps | July 7, 2007 at 8:56 pm |

    I really like that blue Spurs Anniversary kit, much more so than the white one.

  • Flip | July 7, 2007 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”115269″][quote comment=”115265″]um, this is a random question, but does anyone know which of their home jerseys the Mets’ players will be wearing in the all-star game?[/quote]

    There are no random questions on an open thread.

    That said, recent history suggests that the Amazins will wear this on Tuesday.[/quote]

    Don’t players get to choose? That’s one of the problems with having multiple uniforms. Nothin’s uniform.

  • Mike | July 7, 2007 at 9:02 pm |

    Anyone else watch the golf today? Anyone else notice KJ Choi’s upside down Nike swoosh on the visor band just behind his left ear? What’s up with that?

  • patrick | July 7, 2007 at 9:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”115268″]Angels/Yanks game on Fox…when did Kyle Farnsworth start wearing specs? Don’t remember him using them as a Cub (Chicago fan here). Willits looking good in the socks department too.[/quote]

    dont know about years past but hes been wearing them this season.. it hink ive seen him w/ prescrition clear oakley’s as well

  • Jill | July 7, 2007 at 9:59 pm |

    Cubs/Pirates game on WGN, Brenly and whoever else does the announcing now had a conversation about the red Pirates vest. I’m paraphrasing here, but something to the effect of they look like they had an unfortunate ketchup accident. Then they went on about who’s idea was it for the red. They said the Cubs might as well have a green or yellow alternate. Apparently they said more Friday (when the Pirates were actually wearing the vests) but since Friday’s game was not on WGN TV, I could not watch it.

    On another note, I’ve decided I hate the red billed away hats for the Cubs.

    I’ve also decided I hate players wearing soccer socks with their pants high. It doesn’t look right.

  • schuby | July 7, 2007 at 10:18 pm |

    Bill T. I absolutely agree.

    Jill I agree that the Cubs away hats look weird. Also, don’t know if you agree, but i would much rather see the soccer socks than pajama pants any day.

    P.S. Anyone seen Minna?

  • Dean | July 7, 2007 at 10:45 pm |

    I googled searched to see if I could find standings or anything for the World Cup of American Football. I found an article about Japan beating France and as a note at the end was about team USA. It said who the coach was and that the team was made up of college players and said “The United States, making its debut in the World Cup, will face South Korea on July 10 and take on Germany two days later in Group B.” Even pee wee football only plays once a week, whats up with playing 2 games in 3 days?

  • Bill T. | July 8, 2007 at 12:16 am |

    Put it in the books…

  • jere | July 8, 2007 at 12:22 am |

    [quote comment=”115053″][quote comment=”115047″]What I find interesting is that on the Japan leg piping, the writing starts at the bottom and goes up…[/quote]

    That way, when the players are seated, the text “Japan” reads right-side up.[/quote]

    But that would mean the Japan on the right side would then be upside down when they’re seated–however, both sides are right side up when they’re seated, since on the right, the Japan starts at the top and reads down. (See the nose bumper pic). It’s kind of like how if you lay a cd down face up, the writing on both the left and right spine will be face up as well, as one side reads up and one reads down. Interestingly enough (to the type of people still reading this comment), they didn’t design video tape boxes (or DVD boxsets that have writing on both spines) like this. One side will be upside down when it’s laid flat. At least in most “cases”…

  • Jeremiah | July 8, 2007 at 12:36 am |

    [quote comment=”115268″]Angels/Yanks game on Fox…when did Kyle Farnsworth start wearing specs? Don’t remember him using them as a Cub (Chicago fan here). Willits looking good in the socks department too.[/quote]

    I’m a huge Halos fan. I love Willits’ old-school look and style of play. In other Yanks/Angels news: Torre wasn’t rocking the Hefty bag today. He actually had the jersey on. Now if only Scioscia would toss away his own trash bag.

  • Response to Ryan | July 8, 2007 at 12:59 am |

    Ryan:

    Puma has been using that font since the World Cup. It’s called Puma Pace. It was designed for them by Dalton Maag, a german design company. It was never released to the public but there are plans to do so in the near future.

    Also the reason there is so much logo creep on those jerseys as opposed to nike’s set of jerseys currently is because the clothes Puma’s teams wear are all template pieces with custom colors.

    This means you can go pick up the same exact pair of those shorts or socks at any soccer store, the difference is the embroidered logo and sometimes the colors. Basically those uniforms aren’t custom designed for those teams (exception italy) and so they have a template which just changes the colors for each team. Hence all the logo creep.

    Although generally Puma is much better about it than either of the other two soccer congloms.

  • Daniel | July 8, 2007 at 1:46 am |

    I hope someone is still up. Is Dressed To The Nines not working for anyone else?

  • Brian from Short Island | July 8, 2007 at 2:07 am |

    [quote comment=”115066″]Here’s the other Uni Watch-style email I got from Kitbag.com…

    Football Round Up – Part 2

    It’s been a busy week so far with some great new kits going on sale and some massive new signings see below for links to take you straight to the hottest new lines.

    The Mission Continues with Manchester United, with the eagerly awaited launch of the new home kit, available to pre order now for delivery on launch day 1st August. There is a new guy at number 10 with Wayne Rooney taking this legendary shirt, get yours now by clicking here.

    Liverpool’s record signing Fernando Torres has finally been unveiled at Anfield, get his name and number on either of the two Liverpool shirts including the new away shirt by clicking here.

    The second instalment from Spurs 125th anniversary collection is now available to pre order; guarantee yours now by clicking here.

    A new era is starting at Portsmouth FC. A great new home kit manufactured by Canterbury is available to pre order now by clicking here.

    Celtic’s new away shirt is now available to pre order; get the shirt of the champions now by clicking here.

    Thierry Henry’s new club, Barcelona, have got a great new home kit celebrating 50 years at the Nou Camp, get his name and number on the new shirt by clicking here.

    There was some discussion a while back about the Unicef logo on the Barca jersey. Barcelona are famous for not wearing a sponsor’s logo and apparently the Unicef logo is no exception as Barcelona wears the logo to support the charity and does not recieve sponsorship money from Unicef.

    There is a chapter devoted to the significance of Barcelona FC in the book “How Soccer Explains the World.” It’s a great book and I recommend it to anyone interested soccer, sports, politics, and / or world cultures.[/quote]
    Please please puh-leeeeze stop shilling for Kitbag! They do shit work, use awful replica lettering and are overpriced at that.

  • Dennis Abrams | July 8, 2007 at 2:09 am |

    [quote comment=”115359″]I hope someone is still up. Is Dressed To The Nines not working for anyone else?[/quote]
    It gave me trouble too.

  • Brendan | July 8, 2007 at 2:21 am |

    Hats with the All-Star patch are on display and for sale in SF. They’re ridiculously large, and look terrible on hats that don’t match the orange color scheme.

  • Eric B | July 8, 2007 at 2:50 am |

    [quote comment=”115363″][quote comment=”115359″]I hope someone is still up. Is Dressed To The Nines not working for anyone else?[/quote]
    It gave me trouble too.[/quote]

    this has been covered at least three different times this past week.

  • BurghFan | July 8, 2007 at 3:03 am |

    I hope someone is still up. Is Dressed To The Nines not working for anyone else?

    It gave me trouble too.

    this has been covered at least three different times this past week.

    There’s a database error at the up-to-date site, so that Daniel (and the rest of us) can’t look up uniforms.

  • John in Athens | July 8, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”115362″][quote comment=”115066″]Here’s the other Uni Watch-style email I got from Kitbag.com…

    Football Round Up – Part 2

    It’s been a busy week so far with some great new kits going on sale and some massive new signings see below for links to take you straight to the hottest new lines.

    The Mission Continues with Manchester United, with the eagerly awaited launch of the new home kit, available to pre order now for delivery on launch day 1st August. There is a new guy at number 10 with Wayne Rooney taking this legendary shirt, get yours now by clicking here.

    Liverpool’s record signing Fernando Torres has finally been unveiled at Anfield, get his name and number on either of the two Liverpool shirts including the new away shirt by clicking here.

    The second instalment from Spurs 125th anniversary collection is now available to pre order; guarantee yours now by clicking here.

    A new era is starting at Portsmouth FC. A great new home kit manufactured by Canterbury is available to pre order now by clicking here.

    Celtic’s new away shirt is now available to pre order; get the shirt of the champions now by clicking here.

    Thierry Henry’s new club, Barcelona, have got a great new home kit celebrating 50 years at the Nou Camp, get his name and number on the new shirt by clicking here.

    There was some discussion a while back about the Unicef logo on the Barca jersey. Barcelona are famous for not wearing a sponsor’s logo and apparently the Unicef logo is no exception as Barcelona wears the logo to support the charity and does not recieve sponsorship money from Unicef.

    There is a chapter devoted to the significance of Barcelona FC in the book “How Soccer Explains the World.” It’s a great book and I recommend it to anyone interested soccer, sports, politics, and / or world cultures.[/quote]
    Please please puh-leeeeze stop shilling for Kitbag! They do shit work, use awful replica lettering and are overpriced at that.[/quote]

    Maybe, but they send out some interesting Uni Watch-style jersey round-ups.

    Thus the post.

  • Drew | July 8, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”115356″]Ryan:

    Puma has been using that font since the World Cup. It’s called Puma Pace. It was designed for them by Dalton Maag, a german design company. It was never released to the public but there are plans to do so in the near future.

    Also the reason there is so much logo creep on those jerseys as opposed to nike’s set of jerseys currently is because the clothes Puma’s teams wear are all template pieces with custom colors.

    This means you can go pick up the same exact pair of those shorts or socks at any soccer store, the difference is the embroidered logo and sometimes the colors. Basically those uniforms aren’t custom designed for those teams (exception italy) and so they have a template which just changes the colors for each team. Hence all the logo creep.

    Although generally Puma is much better about it than either of the other two soccer congloms.[/quote]

    Correct for the most part, however some teams have a lightly screened on logo huge on the shirt, like Czech Republic.

    http://www.soccer.co...

    same on the white shirt and for a few other teams.

  • Art | July 8, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    How does Canada not have a team in that world cup? Did we have an issue wanting to play an extra down?