Let’s Look Back — WAY Back

We all love Dressed to the Nines. But if you’re seriously into old-timey baseball history, D2T9s has a serious limitation: It only goes back to 1901. Nobody has come up with a visual database for 19th-century baseball uniform designs.

Until now. A new site called Threads of Our Game launched on Tuesday, and it attempts to do for 19th-century uniforms what Marc Okkonen did for the 20th century. It covers the years 1856 through 1900, showing uniform mock-ups for a wide range of professional and collegiate teams. I know some of you don’t really care about uniform developments from longer ago than before 2000 last year last month yesterday, but this site is like a brand-new playground for those of us interested in uniform history.

The guy behind site is an Atlanta-based gent named Craig Brown, who has a background in design and marketing. He’s enlisted the aid of assorted researchers and historians, and together they’re piecing together a visual record of baseball’s earliest years. The site makes no claims regarding completeness or exhaustiveness — there are lots of holes and gaps, and some of the site’s uni mock-ups are only in black-and-white, at least for now. Still, Brown and his crew hope to fill in those gaps as they continue their research, and the site already offers plenty of pleasures now. Here’s a sampling of worthwhile tidbits:

• The earliest teams all wore long pants, because knickers didn’t come along until the 1868 Reds.

• Other milestones singled out on the site include the first team name to appear on a jersey, the first city name to appear on a jersey, and the first team with separate home and road unis.

• The party line has long been that the first team to wear vests was the 1940 Cubs, but it looks like that honor actually belonged to the 1867 New York Mutuals. (And as an aside, that same team had a really interesting uniform three years later.)

• What have we here — a Brooklyn team with untucked jerseys!

• And here’s another Brooklyn team, this one with argyle socks.

• One more from Brooklyn: a team with what appears to have been a bolo hat!

• Attention U. of Maryland fans (or anyone else who likes the Maryland state flag): You’ll dig the chest emblem worn by the 1872 Lord Baltimore team.

• As you’ve probably noticed by now, most of these teams wore some combination of point collars, chest pockets, chest bibs, neckties, and other unlikely-seeming accessories. Things were very, very different back then.

I could go on, but you’re better off exploring the site on your own. Meanwhile, Brown tells me he already has another project in mind: a database of 20th-century minor league uniforms. “People just shake their heads at this,” he says. And yeah, that does seem like a Herculean task. Maybe stick to those 19th-century designs for now, Craig.

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Building a better glove: Reader Jake Kessler is pursuing an interesting project: He’s come up with some new baseball glove designs (sorry, can’t show them to you here) and is looking for people who’d be interested in helping him manufacture them. I’ll let him explain:

I’ve called tons of manufacturers. Most won’t work with me because my design concept changes what gloves have looked like for the last 50 years, and they aren’t willing to do that. Some have said they would be willing to try if they had templates or a prototype to take apart, so I’m trying to get that done for now.

I know there are lots of crafty people in the Uni Watch readership, and it wouldn’t surprise me if someone out there has the skill set to help me out. I’m hoping to find a former Rawlings or Wilson employee, or someone who has a small shop in their garage. I’m finding this to be a very specific skill set, and not an easy one to find. And those in seemingly related fields — re-lacers, seat upholsterers, saddle makers — have no comfort in crossing over.

It’s tough, because a Reds infielder has seen the designs and would want one. So have other people I know that have connections to MLB teams. I just can’t seem to get the damn things made!

If you’d like to explore this with Jake, contact him here.

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Design contest — last call: Today is the final day to submit entries for my ESPN contest to redesign the Cavaliers. I’ll be accepting designs up until 7pm Eastern tonight. Full details here.

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Any readers out there in Eugene? Reader Alex Allen, who lives in Eugene, Oregon, is interested in putting together a Uni Watch party. He doesn’t yet have a venue or a firm date (although he’s thinking of Sept. 27, because there’s no Oregon football game that day), but first he wants to see if there are enough Eugene-area readers who are interested. If that’s you, contact Alex here. (I won’t be able to attend the party myself. But if it comes together, I’ll send Alex the 15th-anniversary banner so it can be displayed at the shindig.)

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’Skins Watch: The granddaughter of original ’Skins owner and notorious racist George Preston Marshall thinks the team should change its name (thanks, Phil). … Here’s an article explaining why the ’Skins name and other use of Native imagery in sports creates a hostile learning environment for Native children. There’s a similar article here (both from Phil again). … A Canadian high school will stop calling its teams the Redman, even though the name had nothing to do with Native people (Phil yet again). … Cort McMurray recently spent a day in Santa Fe, Texas, and sent the following report: “The local high school proudly declares itself ‘Home of the INDIANS!’ Both the high school and the Santa Fe Independent School District administration building feature marquees sporting chiefs, in full Illini-style headdresses. Santa Fe is also home to Indian Car Repair, Medicine Man Pharmacy (I swear I’m not making that up), a street called Warpath Drive, and a youth football organization called the Santa Fe Braves. If Dan Snyder is ever driven from Washington, the folks in Santa Fe would welcome him with open arms.” … Good article on how concern over the ’Skins name is filtering down to the high school level (Phil again).

Baseball News: Quick quiz: Who’s this Reds minor leaguer? Answer at the end of the Ticker. … All MLB teams will wear a Hall of Fame 75th-anniversary patch on Sunday. Not sure if that includes the Cubs and Cards, who are slated to wear 1970s throwbacks that day. … Speaking of the Hall, here’s a good article on the cap logos used on Hall of Fame plaques. … This is pretty awesome — an infographic showing every uniform combo worn by the 1979 Pirates (great contribution from the Hungry Hungry Hipster). … Wanna see something seriously weird? Check out this shot of Iowa Cubs player Javier Baez. The “Iowa” on his helmet appears to be backwards, but everything else in the photo reads properly, so it’s not a flopped image. What gives? (From Al Yellon.) … “The Everett Aquasox had a ‘Bark in the Park’ night and we brought our paralyzed Dachshund, named Anderson Pooper,” writes Dave Sizer. “My wife DIY’d an Aquasox hat for Anderson, which she made it out of six panels of wool felt with the team logo sewn on top. Since Anderson also has to wear pants (due to the paralysis), she also cut out the secondary logo that appears on the BP hats and sewed it to the back of the pants.” … After the Rockies’ players went high-cuffed on Wednesday, the team’s office staff did likewise yesterday. … You can see this year’s Little League World Series uniforms here and here. Further info here. … The Kalamazoo Growlers wore what I think is the world’s first “selfie jersey”. Further info here (thanks, Phil). … “A friend’s kid is at the Cincinnati Reds Baseball Camp this week,” says Jake Keys. “This is his second year, so he received a two-year-veteran patch. Awesome stuff.” … Third question on this Q&A page addresses the issue of Cubs manager Rick Renteria’s habit of wearing a windbreaker instead of a jersey. … Chris Scavo notes that the Staten Island Yankees’ road uniforms have surprisingly inconsistent number typography. … Mets SS Ruben Tejada has a new batting helmet. His old one was cracked when he was beaned during Wednesday’s game. … The Lehigh Valley IronPigs wore Michael Jackson uniforms last night (thanks, Phil). … Quiz answer: Believe it or not, that is “Macho Man” Randy Savage, from his days in the Reds’ minor league organization (thanks again, HHH).

NFL News: The Patriots have changed the number font on their practice jerseys to match their game jerseys. Looks weird without the outlining, no? (Good spot by Tom Adjemian.) … The Titans will wear their navy uniforms once in 2014 (thanks, Phil). … The Ravens’ practice jersey sponsor advertiser has changed from the Maryland National Guard to Ford (from Rick Friedel). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comment: Here’s an unusual sight — Peyton Manning wearing Nike shoes. Manning had spent more than a decade wearing Reebok, but he parted ways with them back in the spring. … Speaking of QBs’ footwear, Robert Griffin III has explained why he was wearing mismatched shoes and socks in practice (from Yusuke Toyoda). … Also from Yusuke: The Panthers have released their 2014 jersey schedule (from Yusuke Toyoda). … Quinn Kasal says his Bears season tickets indicate that the team will be wearing its “Monsters of the Midway” throwbacks on Sept. 28 (Packers) and Nov. 23 (Bucs). … With the annual ComicCon now underway in San Diego, Chargers RB Ryan Matthews got in the spirit by donning Superman gloves and shoes during practice (from Brady Phelps). … Meanwhile, Pats RB Stevan Ridley wore Batman cleats (thanks, Phil). … Love the WFL helmet gallery on this program cover (thanks, Phil). … Check out Mickey Mantle in a Dallas Cowboys tee (from Steve Dodell).

College Football News: Not sure of the background details on this photo, but check out this ref wearing a bow tie (from Leo Strawn Jr.). … USC pranked its fans by tweeting a photo of a phony helmet. … Virginia Tech’s uniform design this year will apparently be “nothing too drastic” (from Andrew Cosentino). … More uni rankings, this time for the Pac 12 (thanks, Phil). … Serious fuck-up in the Longhorns’ media guide, as the word “Texas” was misspelled on page after page (thanks, Brinke).

NBA News: Which is the most popular NBA uni number? Are more NBA players wearing No. 23 these days? These and other uni-numerical questions are addressed here (from Robert Silverman).

Soccer News: Everton will release a new away shirt today (from Casey Hart). … Great article on Russian soccer team crests influenced by Constructivism. … New third kit for Bayern Munich (thanks, Phil). … Interesting project to turn World Cup crests into baseball caps (from Chris Fox).

Grab Bag: More new East Tennessee State uniforms (various sports) here and here. … “I make an annual trip to Ocracoke Island in North Carolina,” says Patrick O’Neil. “To get to the island, you have to take one of three ferries, each of which is painted a different color scheme corresponding to a college or university located within the state. Each ferry also includes the logo of the school.” If you click on the thumbnails here, it will tell you the school affiliation of each ferry. … Auburn is an Under Armour school, but Chad Fette was watching some video footage of the football team’s off-season training program and noticed several players wearing Nike, Adidas, and New Balance shoes. … Bottom of this article about graffiti in Chicago includes a local civic association leader’s suggestion that offenders be put in hot pink uniforms. … Here are the four finalists for a Nevada 150th-anniversary medallion design. … Was listening to the food-centric podcast The Sporkful and learned that the top and bottom pieces of a hamburger bun are known in the industry as, respectively, the crown and the heel. Can’t decide if this is really cool or just ridiculous. Like, what’s wrong with “top” and “bottom”? … The union for Montreal firefighters, bus drivers, cops, and other municipal workers is urging its members to stop wearing their uniforms to protest changes to the workers’ pension plans. … Want to get free yogurt for a year? All you have to do is design the logo for an Illinois yogurt shop. … This sounds like an Onion story, but it appears to be real: New Balance has come out with a line of sneakers based on the work of famous authors (thanks, Garrett).

 

100 comments to Let’s Look Back — WAY Back

  • Phantom Dreamer | July 25, 2014 at 7:46 am |

    Randy Savage’s real name was Randy Poffo.

    • Keith | July 25, 2014 at 7:58 am |

      Here’s his Baseball Reference page:

      http://www.baseball-...

    • Ran Isaacs | July 25, 2014 at 9:18 am |

      Thank you for bringing a great big smile to my face to start my day. An amazing entertainer, but an even better gentleman.

      • Rad | July 25, 2014 at 10:35 am |

        I’m about to make your day even better! If you haven’t seen the Macho Man’s baseball card, here it is – check out the 1st bullet point on the back: “Has improved his swing by dropping his elbow”

        How cool is that.

        http://i.imgur.com/3...

        if that doesn’t work just google Randy Savage baseball card

        • Dan J | July 25, 2014 at 6:52 pm |

          Eventually, he got really good at dropping his elbow…from the top turnbuckle! OHHHHHH YEEEAAAHHH!!

  • Connie DC | July 25, 2014 at 7:47 am |

    Thanks, Paul, for telling us about – and helping us sample – Craig Brown’s wonderful project. A terrific contribution.

    Go Mutuals!

    • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 7:47 am |

      Agreed! (and was just about to type similar sentiments).

      This project is awesome.

    • DenverGregg | July 25, 2014 at 7:55 am |

      I’m very much looking forward to future developments, both the minor league expansion and seeing if any team is brave enough to try a wayback throwback.

      • timmy b | July 25, 2014 at 8:35 am |

        ANY new sports uniform database of any sort is a very welcome sight – er- site.

        Congratulations to Craig and all of the contributors! Very much looking forward for the 1976-1899 years

      • AlMaFi | July 25, 2014 at 9:11 am |

        Yes, if he manages to pull together a 20th century MiLB uni database, I will be a regular scourer. At this point Ebbets is the best resource on the web for these uniforms, but there are many blanks that need to be filled in.

    • Mark in Shiga | July 25, 2014 at 8:40 am |

      Agreed; this is wonderful. Even if Okkonnen couldn’t fill every team from every year, I remember wishing that he at least had included some samples from some seasons, particulary for the still-extant teams and whose 19th-century uniforms included echoes of those in past decades, such as how Chicago’s dark blue road uniforms of the 1880s made it back 30 years later with the bear logo or the word CUBS rather than CHICAGO.

      As a fan of a team (the Chicago Cubs) whose history extends well back into the 19th century, and as a fan of 19th-century baseball in general, I’m also hoping to see more people come to appreciate the variety of color that appeared in uniforms back then — it wasn’t like color suddenly appeared in the 1970s and it was just dull gray going all the way back!

      • Cort | July 25, 2014 at 11:32 am |

        It is a very valuable, and informative site!

        The variety of colors reminds me a lot of what you see in the historical football kit website from the UK, where in the early days teams sported everything from Union Jack shirts to pink and navy combos to half-green, half-yellow getups (not exactly a harlequin, but I don’t know what you call it).

        It seems like the order that came with formal professional organizations put a damper on creative exuberance — by 1901, the baseball designs were for the most part staid (McGraw’s Giants being a notable exception).

    • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 10:08 am |

      It is indeed. Go Craig!

      If you ever do get to the minor league database, I’ll give you all my Brewers stuff. I want to create my own database for their uniforms, just haven’t got a good enough template.

  • Connie DC | July 25, 2014 at 7:59 am |

    “…Great article on Russian soccer team crests influenced by Constructivism…”

    Well, a great IDEA for an article, but neither the prose nor (all but one of) the graphics seem to have much to say about Constructivism, much less illustrate it. There best examples of neo-Constructivism you’ll find around here come from the brain factory of Robert Marshall.

    • Padday | July 25, 2014 at 8:47 am |

      My thoughts exactly. When I saw that link I got very excited only to be greatly disappointed. I think the guy who wrote it is basically confounding any vaguely soviet or labour theme with the distinct stylistic characteristics of Constructivism.

  • DenverGregg | July 25, 2014 at 8:03 am |

    Huh. The linked program shows the Memphis Southmen with an orange helmet, but other online reference (and fuzzy memory) indicate a white helmet.

    • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 8:27 am |

      Pretty sure you’re correct about that Gregg (I’ve done some research, and I’ve yet to see a helmet that isn’t white — at least from the color photos). And just to whet your whistle, I plan on having some Major WFL stuff (it being the 40th anniversary of the start of the league) during Paul’s hiatus — so stay tuned!

    • ChrisH | July 25, 2014 at 10:37 am |

      I saw some pennants showing an orange helmet:

      http://www.touchdown...

      http://thumbs4.ebays...

      • HHH | July 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm |

        The Wikipedia article on the Southmen says they were informally known as the Memphis Grizzlies so that makes me wonder how the pennant with the word “Grizzlies” on it got to be made…

    • DenverGregg | July 25, 2014 at 11:47 am |

      With the prominent bear paws on the logo, it was always just a bit hard to remember if they were the Southmen or the Southpaws.

      • timmy b | July 25, 2014 at 12:38 pm |

        Well, remember that they were originally going to be the Toronto NORTHmen, but the CFL and the Canadian government were set to raise a legal stink over the franchise, so (I think) John Bassett though better of it and decided to move the team to Memphis and called them the Southmen,since they’d be south of the border.

  • Casey Hart | July 25, 2014 at 8:28 am |
    • Casey Hart | July 25, 2014 at 8:36 am |

      The main photos make it look like the shirt and shorts piping are not the same width, but the piping on the shorts in the online store looks like it could be the same thickness. The stripe is truncated, which will bother some but doesn’t irk me much. The triple logo creep on the jersey, on the other hand …

      • terriblehuman | July 25, 2014 at 8:48 am |

        I think the striping disconnect is due to lighting and camera angle.

        Also, I don’t think the truncated stripe will be an issue if players don’t tuck their shirts (which most players don’t, Leon Osman being a notable exception).

  • Matt D (the other one) | July 25, 2014 at 8:31 am |

    Regarding the Montreal story. Heard this while recently vacationing in Maine: Sheriffs Deputies growing facial hair to protest working w/o a contract.

    http://m.news.mpbn.n...

  • Mark Graban | July 25, 2014 at 8:31 am |

    So if the knickers didn’t start until 1868, defenders of the pajama pants look can say they’re just really, really old school?

  • Will S | July 25, 2014 at 8:32 am |

    There is an older site with a visual database for pre-NHL and early NHL hockey.

    http://web.archive.o...

    There is a newer one that I haven’t seen because you have to be subscribed to SIHR:

    http://www.sihrhocke...

    Some international hockey jersey are being done here:

    http://www.mmdresy.e...

    I believe some of the pics from the person from SIHR doing that hockey sweater database are here:

    http://hockeyhistory...

  • Dumb Guy | July 25, 2014 at 8:32 am |

    Hey Dave Sizer…. That is so awesome!!

  • Matt D (the other one) | July 25, 2014 at 8:40 am |

    http://www.espnfc.us...

    Posting error leads to heavily discounted Man U jerseys. Still not at the dirt cheap level I’d need before I’d wear anything MU.

  • Noonan | July 25, 2014 at 8:41 am |

    What’s a snaker?

  • Mark in Shiga | July 25, 2014 at 8:44 am |

    Regarding the Staten Island Yankees’ number font: at least the numbers are positioned correctly!

    BTW, have the Staten Island Yanks stopped giving out the numbers that the Bronx team has retired? I can’t see any other reason for people having numbers like 58 and 60, and remember someone on here commenting on how it feld strange for a moment to be at a SI Yankees game and seeing the backs of players wearing numbers 3 and 4, because the jersey backs look just like those of the big club and those numbers are no longer seen in the Bronx.

    • Paul Lukas | July 25, 2014 at 9:02 am |

      They haven’t officially retired those numbers:
      http://www.milb.com/...

      But it does appear that they’ve stopped issuing them:
      http://www.milb.com/...

      • Mark in Shiga | July 25, 2014 at 9:48 am |

        That’s even worse than I could have imagined. So they retire numbers of people who’ve played for them (for at most a couple of years, in the low minors) and then also don’t issue the numbers that their parent doesn’t issue.

        If I were commissioner, I would forcibly un-retire ever number on every team. I appreciate the gensture the Yankees made to Lou Gehrig back in 1939 when they took number 4 away permanently, but nowadays this is just getting ridiculous. Don’t these sports teams expec tto still be in business in 2050 or 2100, when, as things are now going, every player will wear a number over 50 and some will be in three digits?

        • The Jeff | July 25, 2014 at 10:31 am |

          I agree. The practice of retiring numbers needs to be ended. There’s plenty of ways to honor and remember past players without taking their numbers out of circulation.

        • Paul Lukas | July 25, 2014 at 10:37 am |

          There’s plenty of ways to honor and remember past players without taking their numbers out of circulation.

          True. But what is the *harm* of taking numbers out of circulation (aside from football, where numbers correlate to certain positions)?

          Just to clarify: I’m not steadfastly for or against retired numbers. I’m just trying to understand why you’re against them.

        • The Jeff | July 25, 2014 at 11:07 am |

          Well, eventually you will start running out of numbers.

          I guess there isn’t really any “harm”, but I just don’t like it. I think that seeing a number continue to get used is going to remind people of the old player, while if the number just disappears, people will forget sooner. A team could even develop a tradition where the best player at whatever position always wears the same number. Surely that’s better than letting the number fade away into history never to be seen on the field again.

        • Anthony Verna | July 25, 2014 at 11:15 am |
        • scottrj | July 25, 2014 at 11:19 am |

          It’s possible to have it both ways: retire a number, but bring it back out of retirement after a specified time period has passed (say, 25 years). That way the player’s achievements are duly noted while the number is only out of circulation for a generation or so.

          It’s interesting. As a college freshman, my daughter was given a uniform number that had last been worn by a two-time All-American, one of the 2-3 best players in recent team history. At first it was a bit of a burden, as her older teammates would tell her she needed “to live up to” the number – until it became an honor when the former player told her it was nice to see that her old number was “in good hands.”

        • Anthony Verna | July 25, 2014 at 12:09 pm |

          The correct response is, “It’s just a number on cloth. It has no effect on how you play. Be yourself.”

        • Cort | July 25, 2014 at 12:47 pm |

          Two of the Houston Astros’s retired numbers belonged to players whose primary achievement is that they died young and tragically. Number retirement is easily abused.

          Keeping numbers in circulation could be a means of building mystique and tradition. In Argentina and Brazil, it’s considered a tremendous honor to be assigned number 10. It would be kind of cool to see, say, the Yankees reassign number 2, post-Jeter, to some worthy player, sort of passing the torch to a new generation.

        • scottrj | July 25, 2014 at 1:35 pm |

          You’re right, Anthony, motivational ploys to enhance performance deserve scorn and disdain. I suspect you’d also think the sign she and every other athlete at her HS touched for good luck before every single game they played – you know, the one reading “WE PLAY FOR THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE – WE SET THE STANDARD FOR THOSE WHO FOLLOW” – is just as inane.

          Sheesh.

        • Mark in Shiga | July 25, 2014 at 6:59 pm |

          Paul, we’re already seeing rosters that are so “top-heavy” that numbers in the 50s and even 60s outnumber those under 20. Just about everywhere in life, smaller numbers appear more frequently than larger ones (Benford’s Law measures this for the first digit) so we feel vaguely uneasy when we see more high numbers tha low ones in a list that ostensibly begins with 1 (or 0).

          I’ve pontificated on this many times but I completely agree with the posters who would like to see some reform. I like Scottrj’s idea, and I’ve also suggested only having one retired number at a time, which is similar. I agree with Cort that a better honor past greats would be making sure that someone on the current roster is always wearing that number.

          The absence of the very first retired number (Gehrig’s 4) was meaningful — the Yankees’ numbers were the regular batting order, so every game, the fans would see 1-2-3-12-5-6-7-8 in the starting lineup and be forcibly reminded that one of their greats was gone. Today would you even notice that no Houston Astro in recent memory has worn #32? Or that no Marlin has ever worn #5? You don’t, but you do notice the 56s and 62s on everybody’s backs these days. I’m almost hoping that baseball goes the way of hockey and randomly issues numbers up to 99 just so that the total 50s/60s dominance isn’t so visible.

  • lose rem | July 25, 2014 at 8:54 am |

    Crown and Heel is because each of those pieces has a top and a bottom. Would be confusing if you were referring to the “top of the bottom” or vice versa when discussing the specific parts of each half. Easier to refer to “the top of the heel”

    • John in KC | July 25, 2014 at 9:28 am |

      A bit more food service bun trivia – the middle piece on the 3-piece bun used for a Big Mac, Big King, etc. is called a “club” – I suppose as in “club sandwich”. I worked for a fast food establishment back in high school; we didn’t have a triple-deck burger on our menu but wound up with a shipment of Big Mac buns by accident; we just discarded the “clubs” and left them in the bags for the bread company to pick up with the outdated items.

    • Dumb Guy | July 25, 2014 at 9:50 am |

      Regular loaves of bread (once sliced) also have heels.

      • scottrj | July 25, 2014 at 4:12 pm |

        In the early ’80s I worked for about 6 weeks at a Roy Rogers, the significance of that being it was a cafeteria-style restaurant where the patrons selected their own burgers from under heat lamps where they’d been placed after grilling (to perfection, natch). I don’t remember the whole crown/heel thing, but I DO recall being instructed to replace the bun on every burger that sat under the heat lamps for 5 minutes with a newly-toasted one. That was because over that time the direct heat would harden the crown of the bun, a process referred to as “turtling.”

        Only after a second bun had “turtled” could you consign the burger, bun and all, to the trash. And only after duly noting that fact on the daily wastage sheet maintained for inventory control purposes.

  • Chris in Nashville | July 25, 2014 at 9:06 am |

    The interesting thing to me about the 1979 Pirates is that it appears they never wore ALL black or ALL yellow including the hat. I guess that would’ve made their uniforms TOO outlandish.

    • Biged6464 | July 25, 2014 at 9:14 am |

      My thoughts exactly. I scanned the graph looking for the same thing. I can’t believe it! As a Pirates fan I enjoyed seeing that.

      • Gusto4044 | July 25, 2014 at 10:10 am |

        The Pirates did in fact wear matching hats and jerseys in spring training during those years, I’ve seen the baseball cards from that era.

    • walter | July 25, 2014 at 9:15 am |

      The schedule shows the blowback from fans recoiling from the combination of pinstriped elements with the solid ones, as they had in ’77 and ’78. I was upset they didn’t break out the solid black combo in the World Series.

    • BurghFan | July 25, 2014 at 2:54 pm |

      First, credit where credit is due:

      http://dickallenhof....

      This even appeared in the May 15, 2013 Uni Watch ticker. (Not that Paul is required to remember every item that’s run.)

      And, as you may know, the Pirates’ “rules” are summarized here:

      http://www.buctracke...

  • AlMaFi | July 25, 2014 at 9:14 am |

    -No luck on the NY times link about HOF cap logos

    -In the baseball ticker: “Kawlamazoo Growlers”

  • Rob Ullman | July 25, 2014 at 9:31 am |

    I’ve taken that Hatteras/Ocracoke ferry several times and I don’t think I’ve even noticed the school logos before. I’ll be there in a few weeks, I’ll haft keep an eye out. Mmmm, VACATION!

    • Andrew Seagraves | July 25, 2014 at 9:52 am |

      Love the Hatteras to Ocracoke ferry – one of these days I need to get back on that boat! Have fun in Ocracoke!

  • The Rick | July 25, 2014 at 9:45 am |

    The shoes the Auburn players are wearing are weightlifting shoes. I’m pretty certain UA doesn’t have anything like this in their footwear line-up.

    http://www.roguefitn...

    http://www.roguefitn...

    http://www.roguefitn...

  • Andrew Seagraves | July 25, 2014 at 9:52 am |

    I can’t wait to dig into this new site! I’m busy now and will devour it soon!

  • Colonel Will | July 25, 2014 at 10:07 am |

    Randy Poffo was a little more “Savage” looking as a Cardinals farmhand:

    http://punchingkitty...

    • ChrisH | July 25, 2014 at 4:37 pm |

      Did the Cincinnati MLB team’s rules on appearance at the time also apply to their minor-league affiliates…even at the lower levels?

  • Leo | July 25, 2014 at 10:29 am |

    Regarding the backwards Iowa helmet, it appears that Baez has had that problem for a while. Here’s a video from another game. When he’s rounding third base, it appears that he’s got the same background with Awoi.

    http://www.milb.com/...

    • Paul Lukas | July 25, 2014 at 10:35 am |

      I’ve asked the team for the story behind this.

    • Adam N. | July 25, 2014 at 3:10 pm |

      He is from Iowa. . . maybe he was looking in the mirror when he applied the decal?

  • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 10:35 am |

    Yesterday NYCFC signed its second high-profile player, England’s Frank Lampard.

    They announced his signing in Brooklyn Bridge Park, where he proceeded to play in a kids’ soccer clinic wearing his shirsey.

    Unlike their first signing, when David Villa had to hold up a makeshift shersey using the wrong font, Lampard’s shirt had the correct MLS numbers.

    In other NYCFC news, some fans are reading into the TV backdrop for his conference, which featured the Nissan logo (the “Official Automotive Partner” of their parent City Football Group) and not presumed-shirt-sponsor Etihad Airlines.

    • Chris Cruz | July 25, 2014 at 1:03 pm |

      For NYCiteh, as a US team that isn’t likely to get a tremendous amount of international TV coverage, Nissan certainly makes more sense than Etihad.

      • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 1:15 pm |

        Certainly hope they’re taking that into account. If we are to have a shirt sponsor I’d much rather see Nissan, which at least has some local relevance.

      • terriblehuman | July 25, 2014 at 1:23 pm |

        Though by end of this year, Ethihad will have flights out of six US airports, and they’re in hot competition with Emirates (who sponsor the Cosmos, btw), just like in the rest of the world.

        • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 5:24 pm |

          But Etihad doesn’t actually fly between any two league cities, which makes them an odd “official airline of MLS”.

    • Padday | July 25, 2014 at 1:35 pm |

      I really do feel sorry for New York when it comes to soccer. You’ll soon have two MLS teams but none that in any way represent the city or its current/prospective fans. One is a corporate vanity project for an energy drink, and the other is the latest generic franchise location of a soulless global sporting conglomerate. Not to mention, it’s supremely unfair to allow a team to exist which has the ability to share assets across a global network including sponsors, players etc.

      • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 5:27 pm |

        You are absolutely wrong about NYCFC.

        Maybe the owners are soulless global sporting conglomerate, but the people who actually run the team are of this city and for this city. They’ve already made incredible headway in nurturing and growing New York’s soccer culture, and I welcome their club to it.

        • Padday | July 25, 2014 at 7:11 pm |

          My local MacDonalds has done a fairly good job of connecting with the community – sponsoring local youth sports, putting up nifty looking banners for the summer fest, at Christmas and to congratulate local sport stars.

          Besides it’s a dangerous precedent to set. In a sport where massive financial inequalities have ruined other leagues, MLS has done a pretty good job of largely avoiding such pitfalls through things like the salary cap. The kind of financial and administrative network available to NYCFC has the potential to fundamentally undermine that relative equilibrium. How long before a very clear division of “haves” and “have nots” emerges based on the increasing ubiquity of such conglomerates? And it’s not just an on field thing, we’ve already seen in how they acquired the MLS expansion contract in the first place how much influence this group already wields over MLS. NYCFC may be doing a good job promoting soccer in New York, just as my local MacDonalds does a good job supporting North Wicklow under-age soccer, that doesn’t change the fact that in a broader context both of these organisations are utterly deplorable.

      • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 11:44 pm |

        “I really do feel sorry for New York when it comes to soccer.”

        ~~~

        Hey! That’s my future favorite team you’re dissing! (the second one — the one who haven’t yet played a game…you know, my team!)

        Or at least it will be once Chance and Conn teach me the finer points next year when we (and hopefully Paul) catch a game at the Stadium.

        Go you NYCFCers!

  • Vee63 | July 25, 2014 at 10:55 am |

    That dog baseball cap DIY is fantastic!

  • Jay | July 25, 2014 at 11:01 am |

    Wow, Paul. What a great find on 19th uniforms. Thanks!

  • Joseph Gerard | July 25, 2014 at 11:59 am |

    OK, I tweeted this to Phil like two days ago and I’m surprised it still hasn’t been mentioned in the Ticker yet.

    • Paul Lukas | July 25, 2014 at 1:43 pm |

      Emailing things to uniwatching at gmail dot come is always the best way, Joesph.

      • Joseph Gerard | July 25, 2014 at 1:53 pm |

        Gotchya, thanks. Even if Phil hadn’t gotten it, I’m kind-of surprised it had slipped under the radar here the last couple of days.

        With that said, I’m glad that the Steelers are limiting these bad boys to one game a year, although they have grown on me.

        It’s also nice to see that the Panthers will wear their “Carolina blue” jerseys against the Steelers: those are the most underrated jerseys in the NFL and should be the Panthers standard color jerseys. I still think the Steelers, Raiders, and Saints should be the only teams allowed to have a black jersey as their team colored jersey. BFBS has had its day in the sun.

        • ChrisH | July 25, 2014 at 2:15 pm |

          I’m OK with Cincinnati and (to a lesser extent)Baltimore having black jerseys provided that they are only worn with white pants.

    • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 2:14 pm |

      I actually tweeted out that info on June 12th, so that’s probably why it didn’t make the ticker.

      • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm |

        Also, scroll down to the last item in the NFL News section, where that news was already transmitted to the UW faithful.

      • P Hoelter | July 25, 2014 at 6:27 pm |

        IS there stuff on the tweets that isn’t on the website?

        • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 7:31 pm |

          Not sure what you mean? Usually if there’s a link in the tweet (at least my tweets), that gets put into the ticker — if it’s just a photo, then just the photo goes into the ticker. In the case of the above tweet, both the story (announcing the throwback date) AND another funny reply to the tweet were included in the ticker.

          When I’m compiling the ticker, if someone @s me, and there is a link, I make sure to always include the link (but usually it’s just a pic).

  • JenInChicago | July 25, 2014 at 12:07 pm |

    RE: Montreal municipal employees –

    So, don’t wear your uniform, but let’s all wear the same UNIFORM pants and caps…..Um….What?

    • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 1:10 pm |

      Makes sense to me.

      The cops are not opposed to the concept of uniforms. They just don’t want to wear the city’s uniforms until the city agrees to drop proposed changes to their contract. But they still need to be visible to the public, hence the camo pants and red caps.

  • mild bill | July 25, 2014 at 12:17 pm |

    RE: Mantle in the Cowboys tee shirt, is that Mel Stottlemyre standing next to him?

    • Connie DC | July 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm |

      Sure looks like him…

    • Steve D | July 25, 2014 at 6:05 pm |

      Definitely Mel…what I like about the photo is that is must be from the mid-sixties, yet I feel the Cowboys wore that same shirt until recently. I also love the home made shoulder logo…OKLA Skeet Champ.

  • Eric Romain | July 25, 2014 at 12:42 pm |

    Dave Sizer,

    My girlfriend has an an unhealthy interest in dachshunds, and my friends constantly barrage her with photos/videos, so she recently screamed with joy to the Andersen Pooper weiner dog race video.

    I had no idea the owner was a uni-watcher!

    • Dave S. | July 30, 2014 at 1:24 am |

      Hey Eric, It’s been crazy how that video has spread! it’s been a fun ride. My wife also has the same unhealthy interest. :-)

  • Padday | July 25, 2014 at 1:07 pm |

    A great resource from Craig and yet more proof that we are currently living in quite possibly the most conservative era of baseball uniform design ever.

    • Chance Michaels | July 25, 2014 at 1:22 pm |
      • Padday | July 25, 2014 at 1:39 pm |

        I see your point, but then again look at those stirrup stripes, and the zips, and even some interesting variations on placket piping and sleeve raglan striping which you wouldn’t see anyone dare to go near at present.

  • terriblehuman | July 25, 2014 at 1:37 pm |
    • mike 2 | July 25, 2014 at 2:12 pm |

      I’m 30 years too old to be going to music festivals but I have been to Merritt a lot.

      This is a very small town in the centre of BC. In the dead centre of UNCEDED UNTREATIED First Nations territory. You should not have to tell people in Merritt that its wrong to wear this stuff.

      • Phil Hecken | July 25, 2014 at 2:25 pm |

        “You should not have to tell people in Merritt that its wrong to wear this stuff.”

        ~~~

        You spelled “anywhere” wrong.

  • Glenn Simpkins | July 25, 2014 at 5:16 pm |

    > Third question on [this Q&A page](http://www.chicagotr...) addresses the issue of Cubs manager Rick Renteria’s habit of wearing a windbreaker instead of a jersey.

    Damn it, this link was behind a pay wall!

  • SoS | July 25, 2014 at 8:21 pm |

    I would love to have the Pirates 1979 uniform graphic in PDF format. It would make a great framed picture for the gameroom.

  • Jonathan Sluss | July 25, 2014 at 10:10 pm |

    THE Anderson Pooper of wiener dog racing fame!?

    • Dave S. | July 30, 2014 at 1:25 am |

      Yep, that’s the one! :-)

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