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Olympic Hoops Unis

2012 Olympic Basketball

By Phil Hecken

Bet you thought I was going to lede with Penn State’s “new” uniforms. You’d be wrong. They get a ticker mention at best. If you don’t want to read that far, the unis will now have NOB and a blue ribbon. That’s it. Moving on…

Thus far, UW has avoided covering Olympic basketball (with the exception of Jim Vilk’s 5&1 this past Monday), but you knew it couldn’t be kept quiet for the entire two weeks, right? Of course not. So today, my Olympic Correspondent is Michael Kemezis, who has the full run-down for hoops. The article was written a couple days ago, so the info may be a tad dated, but hey, it’s the uniforms we’re concerned with — not the standings. Right? Right.

So, here’s Mike with the …

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Olympic Basketball Uniform Rundown
By Michael Kemezis

With the Olympic Men’s Basketball tournament nearing the end of the group stage, everything seems to be going as planned (well for the US anyway). This current “Dream Team” is rolling over everyone and could possibly have given the real Dream Team a run for its money. But I think we can all agree the Dream Team was much better dressed than the 2012 squad. Heck, the “Other Dream Team” (the one that made Jim Lampley cry) is better dressed than the US men this year. My personal favorite was the US unis from 2008. Why must Nike try to reinvent the wheel?

Anyway, back to 2012. There are two groups made up of six teams each in London. The top four from each group makes the quarter-finals and then its one and you’re done (but don’t ask me how Tunisia has 4 points but has yet to win a game). Lets have a glance at each group shall we?

Group A

Argentina

Players you might know: Manu Ginobili, Luis Scola

Argentina is wearing jerseys made by Chinese based company, Li-Ning. They wear white with horizontal sky blue stripes as their “home” kit and dark blue with the stripes as their “away” get up. Nice, clean and simple. Much better than this.

France

Players you might know: Toni Parker-Longoria, Ronny Turiaf

Yawn. France is wearing some plain white with a little red trim and blue Adidas get up. They have some kind of design on the front, but I have no clue what the pattern is suppose to be.

Lithuania

Players you might know: Linas Klezia, Sarunas Jasikevicius, Jonas Valanciunas

The fighting Lithuanians are wearing the Nike Hyper-allergenic elite strike force jerseys worn by some other teams in the tournament as well. I do love the design of the white and green jerseys, but I wish Nike would focus more on branding these international teams than making up the newest lightest fabric known to man. And also, what’s up with the short striping? Imprinted on the fabric on the back appears to be part of the coat of arms of Lithuania, the Vytis.

Nigeria

Players you might know: Al-Farouq Aminu (Hornets)

Nigeria is also wearing Nike, but I believe they are just some regular jerseys without any strange short piping. Very basic and standard.

Tunisia

Players you might know: Ah, well maybe you know a few, I don’t.

See Nigeria. Man these first time participants are getting the short end of the stick when it comes to interesting uniforms.

USA

Players you may NOT know: Andre Iguodala (well my dad had no clue who he was)

Those are our boys out there with some comical chest insignia that looks more like a comic book design than a logo. But the flag pattern on the back is pretty cool.

Group B

Australia

Players you might know: Patrick Mills, Matt Dellavedova (St. Mary’s)

The “Boomers” go all Laker style with a yellow “home” jersey instead of white. Green is their “road” colo(u)r. The shoulder yokes are a little strange.

Brazil

Players you might know: Leandrinho Barbosa, Nene (Hilario, yes he has a last name apparently)

Brazil has a nicer green jersey than the Australians and a very nice white kit as well. They have just a simple diamond shape imprinted on the backs of their Nike jerseys as far as I can tell. But it might have something to do with the Brazilian flag. I have not been able to get a good enough view.

China

Players you may know: Jianlian Yi

Not so Ronald McDonald looking as years past (I think it has to do with the elimination of the yellow trim), the Chinese don’t look too terrible in red or white. They have Chinese script imprinted in the fabric on the back of their jerseys, but I cannot find a picture of it for the life of me.

Great Britain

Players you may know: Luol Deng

Do they even play basketball over there? Apparently yes. And in apparently some hideous blue jerseys to boot. The white isn’t too awful. Adidas seems to be trying too hard to add things to spice up their designs.

Russia

Players you may know: Timofey Mozgov, AK47

Is it me, or does anyone else get a Hawaiian feel from the side panels here? Feels too busy for me in either color. And check out the whacky number font.

Spain

Players you may know: The Gasol bros (Pau and the other one), Serge Ibaka, Rudy Fernandez

The other team wearing Li-Ning jerseys. There is nothing too out of the ordinary here with the same basic template as Argentina. Nice touch with the tilde over the “n”.

I hope you all appreciate the lack of advertisements in this tournament. Here is a preview of what NBA uniforms may become one day soon.

Now, I am sure there is no question about who is going to win the gold medal. The only question is, would the 2012 team beat the Dream Team when they wore these uniforms? The playing field just became a while lot more even now.

Oh and Go Lithuania! Valio!

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Great job on that roundup, Mike. Well readers — there’s your healthy heaping of Olympics Basketball uniforms. Better, worse or “meh” in comparison to unis from years’ past?

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More Olympics:

This section will feature updates, lesser news, and reader submissions from the XXXth Olympiad — keep the Olympic news coming in! (Usually in the order in which I receive them — think of it as an “Olympics Ticker”.)

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More observations from Uni Watch faithful, and more…

* “Just saw the tail end of the China v. Germany doubles match and I am loving the Chinese Men’s jerseys! Here’s a crappy photo of the red one they wore against Germany. Here is a better view of the shirt in black. That dragon just screams China, and it’s nice to see some flair on a country’s Olympic uniform for once!” (Coleman Mullins)

* “Nice adidas ad, eh?” (Brinke)

* “Check out the mask on the Korean field hockey player in the background. It’s like Rip Hamilton’s mask and Jacques Plante’s mask had a baby.” (Bryan Grupp) [Rip Hamilton & Jacques Plante — PH]

* “Watching Men’s Field Hockey for the first time ever, and noticed something interesting. When a penalty shot(?) is awarded, the defensive team grabs a bunch of gear from behind their goal to help defend, including these giant masks. I can’t think of any other sport where gear is put on and just as quickly removed for only specific times. This is one of the few things I still enjoy about the Olympics. I get to see and learn about sports I’d otherwise never get to witness.” (Coleman Mullins, in yesterday’s comments)

* “Interesting” (Mike Styczen, also in yesterday’s comments, in response to the above)

* “In watching the Track & Field events, I’ve noticed that the athletes’ bibs don’t include hyphens, even though their last names should be hyphenated. Take a look at the attached screen grab of Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce (NBC got it right, but LOCOG didn’t). I did a quick Google Image Search and Fraser-Pryce has had a hyphenated bib in past races. This same problem happens for Sanya Richards-Ross (Olympics, U.S. trials).” (MJ Kurs-Lasky) [The irony of your last name is not lost on me — PH]

* “I don’t understand why the track and field athletes still need to wear huge bibs that block out the name of the country. Why can’t they print the names and numbers on the uniforms like every other sport? There is adequate time between the trials and the Games to customize the singlets. If they can put a name and number on a beach volleyball bikini top, I think they can put it on a race singlet. I understand for lesser events the bibs serve as another form of advertising, but there are no ads for the Olympics. … New this Olympics are Last Name On Front Bib (LNOFB), although they still assign a number for the back. Elite marathons have been doing this for years. What purpose does the number still serve if they use a name? And what is up with the lane stickers they put on the legs of the runners? Any true analysis of whether a runner doesn’t stay in lane will use video and I can’t image they actually have utility for a photo finish. The stickers usually fly off and anyway. What if another runner actually steps on a stray sticker and affects performance?” (Harvey Lee)

* “Big Olympix News: Olympic Rower Denies Boner During Medal Ceremony: ”˜I Swear It’s Not Erect’” (Paul Lukas)

* “Don’t you find it amusing that those skimpy Brazilian beach volleyball tops say BRA on them?” (Gregory Koch)

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#NoUniAds Campaign…Day 20

This will be a regular feature on Uni Watch until the NBA rescinds its incredibly offensive and stupid proposal to place corporate advertising on uniforms.

And now, a personal note from Paul:

It’s important that we keep making our voices heard: Call the NBA’s publicly listed phone number (212-407-8000), ask for Adam Silver’s and/or David Stern’s office), e-mail deputy commissioner Adam Silver at his his publicly listed address (asilver@nba.com), and tweet to @NBA with the hashtag #NoUniAds. Do it now.

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More of your letters to the NBA & rebuttals to their form response:

Ferdinand Cesarano:

You are making a terrible mistake by allowing ads on the NBA’s uniforms. By doing so, you will be damaging your product’s recognition.
Let me give you an example of what I mean: think of Michael Jordan. You cannot help but also see in your mind’s eye the word “Bulls”, the word that was written on his uniform in so many pictures. Think of Larry Bird. You see the word “Celtics” in your head.

Now think of David Beckham. What word comes into your memory? That word would be “Sharp”, since that is what was on his uniform during his glory days. Think of Thierry Henry. You see “O2”.

And this is how it will be in basketball. From now on, when we think of a great basketball star, we will inevitably recall the name of the company whose ad appears on his jersey.

You as managers of a business ought to recognise this as a distraction. From the standpoint of branding, the only logo that belongs on a uniform top is that of the team itself. Anything else dilutes the brand.

In addition, the use of ads on jerseys is unnecessary, as basketball games have many in-game commercials. Soccer matches do not have this; so the justifications by way of comparison to soccer clubs’ shirts are not valid.

Let me speak as a fan for a moment, from the heart. The companies who buy this space are not merely acquiring a spot on a jerseys; they are acquiring a spot in our memories for the rest of our lives.

This is sad. It’s a kind of pollution. It’s ugly in a profound sense, far beyond the aesthetic. It is a cultural crime.

Please don’t be party to this.

Timothy Fesmire:

I wanted to express my extreme disgust and displeasure with your league’s decision to allow ads on game uniforms and then to cram it down your fame’s throats by having the ads on retail jerseys as well. I could give you many reasons why this is a bad idea but you have heard them all I am sure. I just would like you to know that if on opening day 2014 there is even one team wearing a uni ad I will not support the Nba in any way. I will not watch the games or the corresponding advertisements. I will not buy merchandise and I will do all I can to convince others of the same. We don’t need to watch this sport…we like to. I think you do not realize the capability of people to just shut you off.

Thank you

Alex López:

I am sending this email in regards to the new NBA policy allowing corporate sponsorship logos on uniforms. No doubt this was a policy implemented with much research and in the hope of generating additional revenue for the league. I am hoping however, that as a life-long fan of this great association, my opinion, and the opinion of thousands of fans such as myself might be taken into account.

I am emphatically opposed to the idea of adding corporate logos to the uniforms of basketball players. When I think of teams such as the Knicks, Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, and others, their uniforms are associated with history, tradition and esteem. A corporate logo advertising a product that may have nothing to do with those teams or the game itself, but is simply there because it paid an advertising fee, defiles what is left of the purity and essence of the game of basketball in the NBA. Fans watch the game because they have already bought into the product that is the NBA and its teams, we do not need to be sold another product that is present on their jerseys. I understand that the goal of any good business is to earn a profit and I am sure profit models have shown that this may increase the profit margin that the NBA already enjoys. However, each organization within the NBA represents a brand in itself and in no way needs another brand’s logo competing for space on uniforms, regardless of how small it may be.

I was extremely disappointed to hear the news of the likelihood of this policy being adopted. It tells me that the NBA is not concerned with how to make its product better for its consumers (the fans) but for itself. No business can remain sustainable if it adopts policies that alienate their consumers instead of focusing on their wants. Needless to say, I will refuse to purchase any jerseys or other memorabilia that advertises a corporate logo along with the team logo. I invite you to poll fans, search twitter (#nouniads), or even conduct your own focus groups to see the overwhelmingly negative response to this by the fans of the association that you serve. I hope that the NBA will do what is right by its fans and for the long term sustainability of its league.

Thanks for keeping the faith readers! We can stop the NBA if we can keep up the pressure.

#NoUniAds!

Thanks to Tim E. O’Brien and Chris Giorgio for the image in the upper right of this section!

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“Benchies” first appeared at U-W in 2008, and has been a Saturday & Sunday feature here for the past two years.

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What, no love for Brooklyn Decker?…

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Uni Watch News Ticker: New revolutionary Andrew Seagraves writes, “thanks for reminding me of Commrade Marshall and his awesome stirrups. I took your advice, put my money where my complaining mouth was and bought a pair of 1969 Padres stirrups from Robert. They are gorgeous and I have worn them to the ball park a few times. I use soccer socks as my ‘sanis’. I also talked to @cubeemaker about using his template to create a cubee for my fantasy football team and share it with you. He said it was alright and here is the template (I give him all credit) and my cubee for my fantasy team the Rapid City Badlanders.” I happen to know there is a new order for stirrups coming and the site has been updated so feel free to check it out early if you are so inclined. … The newest Major Indoor Soccer League franchise, Chicago Soul FC, has unveiled a logo (thanks to the only MISL fan on UW, Jim Vilk). … BADG-KERS or HUSK-GERS? Jon Gates writes, “I like the effort of adidas to make a style statement, however, I don’t think either of the uniforms are specific to their respective teams. So I swapped the letters on the uni’s and can’t tell the difference between the two teams.” … Raymie Humbert notes, “With the new NFL contract, the Arizona Cardinals couldn’t use last year’s practice jerseys. Solution? Donate them to a high school. Mountain Pointe received the white ones, while the red ones went who knows where.” … Apologies if this is something everyone already knows (or that I’m supposed to know), but Andrew Bottrell says “the Broncos are wearing Buick patches on the lower left shoulder in training camp.” … With thanks to Rocky Lum, there was chance to vote for “Rock or Odor? Vote for the Minors’ Best Name” but apparently the voting has just ended. … A submission from a guy(?) who goes by “Onion Bucking Ham” notes “Not to be outdone by those guys in Western Illinois, Eastern Illinois has changed their helmet design: From ThisTo This. They are apparently moving away from the traditional blue/gray school colors to blue/black.” … Eric Bowser attended the Pirates game Monday night, August 6, against Arizona. I stood above the bullpen to watch the pitchers warm up and “noticed a jersey mixup that was quickly corrected before the game but managed to get a few shots. Erik Bedard, the starter last night, bullpen catcher Heberto Andrade and pitching coach Ray Searage came out into the outfield for some long toss and all were wearing the regular white home jerseys. A few minutes later Rod Barajas came out into the outfield and was wearing the black alternate, you could tell they were all laughing and at this point it seemed like Barajas might be the one wearing the the wrong jersey. A couple minutes later a staff member came out with an armful of jerseys and alternate caps for Bedard, Andrade and Searage. Bedard continued warming up in the outfield in the white jersey and switched when he came into the bullpen for warm ups there.” Bedard eventually made the switch. … Tom Konecny reports that Bowling Green has new football unis. Only four combos? How quaint. … Ryan Delgado alerts us to “a game once a year run by Steve Buckley of the Boston Herald called the Oldtime Baseball Game. I play in it, and we have to wear back in the day uniforms ranging from the 1910s-80s.” Game takes place on August 13th. … Sunsplash7777 noticed an Eagles Training Camp jersey nuance: “It seems that the names are screen-printed on the nameplate on the practice jerseys. The game jerseys have each letter in two-layer twill sewn to the nameplate which is then sewn to the jerseys. Customization is done by a company called Rubertis’ located in West Chester, Pennsylvania.” … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Paul and I both hope the Olympics never come to New York (as in, New York City, which really doesn’t need the “City” monicker), but would we be open to New York (as in Buffalo, which may as well be Cleveland)? — yes, before you start with the hate comments, most of that statement was tongue-in-cheek. … “Augusta State is now Georgia Regents University,” says Frank Mercogliano, “and folks ain’t happy.” … Not uni-related, but interesting nonetheless: Historical menus from famous NYC restaurants (thanks to Stan Olechowski). … The Adirondack Phantoms, the minor league AHL affiliate of the Flyers, will be wearing throwback jerseys in honor of the Glens Falls Civic Center’s former tenants — the Adirondack Red Wings — during their home opener on Oct. 13. (from Nick Menta and also sent in by Erik Autenrieth). … Slowly but surely: PSU will wear uniforms featuring a blue ribbon “to support all victims of child abuse.” Also, for the first time, the names of each football player will adorn their jersey in “recognition of their resolve and dedication to the team and the University.” … The 2013 “All-Star logo is official.” (thanks to Steve Dodell). Also, is this an Orange MLB logo? It is if you were at the Mets press conference announcing the new ASG logo (thanks to Shannon Shark from Mets Police). … Mr. James Ashby saw this article on Mr. Morris Levin’s ice cream store, which got some national attention (make sure you watch the commercial). CONGRATS Morris! Your ad agency deserves some kind of award. … Chris Flinn notes, “Looks like they’re changing logos on the practice jerseys on the tv show Necessary Roughness. This week’s show had tons of Under Armour, but in the past, Nike was on their practice uni’s. Here’s the Nike version, and here’s this week’s episode, the UA version.” Gorgeous grab from Alan Chandler who writes, “Check out the Prescott Cardinals baseball uniform. What a placket!” Indeed — that may be one of my most favorite uniform elements — the vertical placket lettering. Here’s another look at the uni. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments (c/o Ted Kerwin) “NY Giant season tickets will feature the Jersey and trophy from each of the 8 championship years the franchise has had. Pre-Season looks like Kieth Rivers #55 home and away.” … “Here are a couple of shots of Johan Santana in the bullpen after he finished three innings for the Single-A Cyclones this past Sunday evening. I am not sure why he discarded his uniform top, but he left on the Brooklyn cap.” (thanks to Marc Viquez). … Rookie callup Luis Avilan for the Braves saw action last night. David Ryan noticed something amiss: “Some serious crooked numbers on the rookie tonight. Geesh.” … “Sergio Romo (SF Giants) has initials on his cap,” says Sean Robbins. “I don’t know who ‘LM’ is. I’m gonna ask him about it on twitter. Hopefully he’ll reveal its meaning.” Anyone? … And one more for the researchers: Buctracker Jerry Wolper had the Pirate game on the radio last night, and during the eighth inning, Bob Walk mentioned that when Kirk Gibson was his teammate in Pittsburgh at the beginning of 1992, Gibson would come into the clubhouse angry and tear off his shirt, with buttons flying all over. Before long, the buttons on his jersey were just decorative, and the shirt was held closed by Velcro. “I don’t know if there are any photos, or any other kind of confirmation, out there, but I figured I’d send it to you in case there’s any reporting to be done.” Readers? Anyone can help or confirm? Sounds like a good story.

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And that’s all for this fine Wednesday. Thanks to Mike Kemezis for his Olympic hoops coverage, and all you fine readers who’ve helped by contributing to this fine board. Everyone have a good one and I’ll catch you tomorrow.

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“Schools who change uniforms a lot are like teenage girls with bright blue hair: they’re suffering from severe inferiority issues, and their desperate cry for attention is just a sad plea for love. The exception to this is Oregon, who’s like the nice, shy girl who falls for a cocky dude on a motorcycle. he gives her lots of money, and tells her she’s pretty, and gets her to “do things.” Eventually, he’s going to leave her, pregnant, living in a trailer on the edge of town, but for now, she’s enjoying the ride and ignoring the whispers from respectable folk.”

–Cort McMurray

 
  
 
Comments (128)

    Not to be outdone by those guys in Western Illinois, Eastern Illinois has changed their helmet design: From This — To This.

    Without cheating–can anyone name three prominent NFL personnel from Eastern Illinois?

    I’m thinking of two current* NFL head coaches and a well-known position player.

    (The asterisk might be a hint…)

    When viewed from the wideshot on my low def TV the Russian red side panels with fine white details looks very pink.

    Holy crap, I better pace myself. Did I really get TWO items in today’s entry?!!

    (I’m laid up in bed with a neck injury, I’ve got nothin’ else to do)

    Also, great lede today. Basketball gets a ton of air time, but it’s nice to see it all laid out here. Well done.

    Indeed.
    Or course the other important aspect of this is saving college football players from knowing this unspeakable horror…
    “What, we gotta wear the same uni for, like, TWELVE games??? OMG, how boring is THAT???”

    they should rest on their laurels, they’ve saved them from the abject horror of being paid for playing a high level of organised sport

    +1. And I love the Oregon analogy. As a father of girls, the only thing I’d say he’s missing is the phrase “bad boy” in there somewhere …

    “And what is up with the lane stickers they put on the legs of the runners?”

    For the sprint events it is a way to ensure that the photo finish official recognizes the lane that they were in I think.

    “…France is wearing some plain white with a little red trim and blue Adidas get up. They have some kind of design on the front, but I have no clue what the pattern is suppose to be…”

    Nude Descending a Staircase.

    Really excellent job by Mike this morning. I’m just blown away by the quality of the guest leads on Olympics unis. I tend to like some of the simple looks that Mike finds dull (France in white, for example), but hey, so what?

    Watched the Nats edge Houston last night and was reminded how far the Stros have fallen from the glory of their shooting star era. Right, Phil?

    I wish more teams would print a design on their fabric. Patterns are very under-utilized in team sports (except for pinstripes). It’s a matter of knowing when to say enough is enough.

    I’m with Walter. Not a fan of France’s pattern, but I like Russia’s. There’s an order to the Russian uni, while the French are plain on one side and indiscriminately squiggly on the other. It’s all in how you do it.

    Also agreeing somewhat with Connie, there’s nothing wrong with a nice simple uni. I’d just substitute “Nigeria” for “France” in this case.

    Russia’s coach, on the other hand, could use that “knowing when to say enough is enough” reminder…
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    By the way, I way dig the Duchamp reference! If it were my team, I’d try something Calder-esque.

    “Ryan Delgado alerts us to “a game once a year run by Steve Buckley of the Boston Herald called the Oldtime Baseball Game.”

    Has there really never been a Uni Watch article about this event and their uniforms?? There needs to be one ASAP!! I think their website is excellent btw…

    if there is anyone in the area and who would like to cover the game for UW, please do so and i’ll gladly run the write-up/photos

    “Adidas seems to be trying too hard to add things to spice up their designs.”

    Don’t blame Adidas. The blue uni follows the Team GB designs done by Stella McCartney. Adidas just executed the instructions.

    You can compare all of the unis for Team GB in other sports to see the uniformity of design.

    Nice piece, Mike. Your point about the graphics may have buoyancy, especially in this circle, but where would Nike be if it didn’t concentrate on material and construction innovation for sports garments. That’s part of what helps athletes make records fall and makes for exciting moments in sports, along with nutrition and training innovation. It, nor any other company, certainly wouldn’t be where it is today, for better or worse, if they didn’t reinvent the wheel or if they concentrated on branding the national teams instead of developing lighter fabrics.

    If you made the US team wear hand-me-downs from the Dream Team (the actual unis, not replicas) while everyone else wore the latest fabrics, there would be no difference. The USA would still be the runaway favorite.

    I don’t get why companies have to keep trying SO hard to innovate what athletes wear. You want to do a little for the sake of comfort and safety, fine. But clothing companies should not be in the record-breaking business. Athletes and athletes alone should break records…not their uniforms. The IOC should have an official supplier for every sport – no special unis for certain nations.

    “Athletes and athletes alone should break records”

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    that’s why they invented the clear

    What stops a major-league baseball team from having uniforms as awesome as the ones worn by Prescott High School? Anyone?

    Eric Bowser’s note on the Pirates jerseys made me think: for Paul’s ESPN rankings, any MLB team that regularly sports a “softball” top at home or on the road should automatically be relegated to the bottom half of the rankings.

    ^^^ reason #234 why THE will never be involved in ranking any team in any sport, ever

    “Softball tops” aren’t exactly new.
    In the co-called “double knit” era they go back to 1972 and the Oakland A’s.
    And shortly thereafter the Braves and Indians, among others.

    I mean, if Henry Aaron had gone yard one more time in the opening series in Cincinnati in ’74, “715” would forever be an image of a guy in a royal blue jersey and white pants.

    rick…

    im not disagreeing that the “softball” top has become ubiquitous and has historical precedent…but it’s become a crutch and a cheap marketing tool in today’s world

    i’m all for a few teams in each league sporting them — for example, the a’s should always have gold at home and hunter on the road, and i could see a nice orange (unlike their current shade) for, say, the orioles or giants; throw in one or two more and i’m ok with it — EXCEPT — one of the reasons the look was much more appealing in the 70’s and 80’s was because players sported lower leg stylings…with pajama pants and giant oversized tops, the softball top looks like absolute SHIT and all but 3 or 4 teams have one

    just like i’d like a few teams to return to powder blue roadies (or dark monochrome to be worn a few times a season), i would not have a problem with the softball top if it actually were a part of the team’s identity (like the a’s) or were done in aesthetically pleasing way (with rups/socks that picked up the color of the top)

    but the way it’s done today looks like total shite and any team who wears a STFSTS (softball top for…) deserves the bottom tier relegation

    A Yankees jersey worn 3 sizes too big with ground scraping pajama pants looks just as shitty as any colored jersey worn 3 sizes too big with pajama pants.

    /just saying

    And I’ll say that, in the absence of the color stirrups provide, the colored jerseys help. I know they do when watching games on TV (though it DOES piss me off that teams are so dense that we see, for example, the White Sox in black vs. the Twins in navy; that makes NO sense at all).

    Counterpoint to that, of course, is that the increasing number of players going high-cuffed rather diminishes the need for the softball tops…in terms of the field no longer being a total sea of neck-to-ankles gray and white.

    Phil, I agree with many of your points. What made the colored jersey special in the 1970s or 1980s was that it was worn by only a few teams and only every few games. It’s gotten out of hand. But so has the number of non-colored alternates and throwbacks. And of course we need to see the socks or stirrups.

    I would be okay if most teams had a third jersey, or in the case of, say, the A’s, even a fourth jersey.

    But keep the powder blues in the record books please. Also, modern baseball does not seem right to me for a monochrome uniform, and that’s saying something, because I loved the Pirates in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

    One can love different types of uniforms. The Yankees, Cardinals, and Dodgers look great, but I also like the Orioles orange and Red Sox navy.

    Just my two cents.

    Ricko:
    Speaking of the Braves and Indians, was the ’95 World Series the first to feature a ‘softball’ top?
    The Tribe wore them for that one (they wore them in ’97 too)…did the Braves wear them as well?

    No, 1995 was not the first. The A’s in the 1970s, the Orioles and Pirates in 1979, and the Padres in 1984 come to mind. The Braves did not have colored jerseys back then either.

    it may have been earlier than this, but in 1972, in winning their first of three world series (all in alt tops), the oakland athletics wore them

    now, it’s debatable that those were “softball” tops — the gold and green tops have been a part of the a’s look for so long, it’s hard to deem them as being a part of the STFSTS crowd that permeated baseball in the 90s and onward

    I think the A’s also wore white at home in that series. What Phil refers to as the modern softball top took off around 1994, if memory serves me. Prior to that, only a few times wore colored jerseys (not counting powder blues).

    yeah, i realized i implied that the a’s wore colored tops for every game — not what i meant, but it came off wrong — i know they wore all white against the mets in 1973 (and probably in 72 and 74 as well) — what i meant to say was that in each of those world series (72, 73, 74), the a’s wore colored tops at least some of the time

    thanks for the clarification, chris

    You did a nice job bringing out the 1973 Topps World Series cards last year when the A’s visited Shea. Oh, how I pored over those cards as a kid.

    Speaking of ’73, you should read “Calico Joe,” by John Grisham. It’s about the fictional 1973 season and involves the Mets. Great read, especially if, like us, you were a Mets fan at that time or you just love baseball.

    Why don’t NBA teams wear their colored jerseys with white shorts? Because it wouldn’t look good. Same deal with why baseball teams shouldn’t be wearing softball tops.

    “The Yankees, Cardinals, and Dodgers look great, but I also like the Orioles orange and Red Sox navy.”

    I think the Cardinals get too much credit for their current uniforms. It’s basically the birds on bat/script on a blank jersey/pants combo that looks like it was purchased just before gametime at Sports Authority. Much of this can be attributed to pajama pants, but would it kill them to put the red piping back on?

    And to be fair, if the Cards all showed those beautiful socks (basically wearing what they did in the 60’s and earlier), they would unquestionably have the best uni’s in baseball.

    “It’s basically the birds on bat/script on a blank jersey/pants combo. . . . ”

    That’s like saying except for her curves and blonde hair, Marilyn Monroe wasn’t that attractive. :)

    The Dodgers’ home uniforms are also without trim and look great. The Cards’ socks of old look great, agreed.

    I get what you’re saying, Geeman…

    But the Dodgers suffer from the same thing as the Cards – pajama pants effect, making a great uniform bland by virtue of the loss of contrasting color stirrups/socks once provided. In my eye, the lack of striping becomes a problem in those instances, where it once worked as an attribute. LA and Stl are still two of the very best dressed teams, but the modern style really negatively accentuates the lack of piping or stripes.

    It used to irritate me that the Cardinals, Athletics and others went unstriped. But for, say, St. Louis now to add them would be infringing on the Angels’ template. Fancier stripes, and then Washington’s toes would be trod upon. Plain, for the time being, looks good on the Cards.

    The piping down the legs can look good depending on your taste. For example, the Mariners homes whites are fantastic. Piping down the pants and a headspoon to boot. What’s not to like? Ummm. Pajama pants. Can’t win em all.

    Perhaps a sort of design “rule of thumb” is that the more ornate the lettering/logo across the chest, the less need there may be for additional striping, piping, et al.

    The Cardinals would be a good example.

    The original shooting star Astros would be another. More crap would seriously detract from that uni. The single star on the stirrups was just enough. And at the time, unique, too.

    I’m pretty sure that MLB logo contains orange, and I wasn’t even at the event.

    As for Penn State … so, in order to recognize the players unselfishness and dedication to the team concept and the entire university, they’re going to point out their individuality?

    I dunno.

    Maybe it’s a way to let the players say, “I stayed through the tough times to help this program recover.”

    Honestly, it’s better than some wholesale cosmetic change that would have smacked of sweeping things under the rug, that a new coat of paint fixes everything…and also would suggest that the past decade-plus had destroyed every accomplishment that had gone before.

    That Kirk Gibson story doesn’t surprise me a bit. During his playing career, he was known to be an unmitigated asshole, to everybody and all the time. Around here in the Detroit area, it was legendary. Everybody has an “I met Kirk Gibson and he was a total jackass” story, to the extent that he’s made public amends more than once for how unnecessarily mean he was.

    Lithuania should always have a tIe dyed third jersey to recognize the 1992 Bronze Medal team and the contribution of the Grateful Dead in supplying the emerging nation uniforms for the basketball
    team for those games.

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    There’s a movie out (or coming out) about that team and the amazing story.

    For my money, the 1992 Olympics were the most interesting. In 1988 we had no idea the Iron Curtain was going to come down, but in 1992 we had the Baltic states competing independently again, the Balkan states competing again, a unified Germany, South Africa back after ending apartheid. It was an interesting reminder of how much the world completely changed in four short years.

    “I can’t think of any other sport where gear is put on and just as quickly removed for only specific times.”

    I can! How about Major League players putting on shin and elbow guards as long as they are in the batter’s box, only to take them off as soon as they reach first base. Used to be cyclists wore helmets only part of the race (usually on curvy flat parts of the route or during descents)

    Penalty corner masks in field hockey only came into vogue earlier this century, in direct response to improvements in stick technology (material and design) that enabled players to “drag flick” in addition to striking or pushing the ball. Drag flicks are exponentially more dangerous than either strikes or pushes b/c not only do they travel at speeds of 75-90 MPH at the game’s highest levels (depending on gender), they can be elevated much more effectively. Leaving defenders virtually unable to react in time to avoid injury in many instances, as evidenced by this video:
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    Forgive the grainy quality, and graphic advisory and all that, but here’s video I took earlier this year of a teammate of my daughter’s getting struck by a drag flick that was traveling perhaps 40 MPH while not wearing a mask:
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    She required two layers of stitches to minimize scarring, 27 in all. In addition to the concussion.

    they also put on cups that they, presumably, take out randomly. coulda been protecting a teammate’s junk just prior

    Proud to report that the Dubois County Bombers have advanced to the Prospect League Championship Series this weekend. Not quite like the Angels winning the WS in the first year after the Radom redesign, but if they pull out a pair of W’s this weekend, I’ll be pretty excited.

    the Chinese don’t look too terrible

    #7 does:
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    Now, contrast China’s clunky 7 with Brazil’s funky 7:
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    Advantage, Brazil. And yes, that is the flag on the back of the jerseys, as seen in this shot of the women’s team:
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    The USA/Superman look has grown on me, and I really like Russia’s unis, including the number font. I also like the simpler Nigerian and Tunisian unis. GB and France…meh.

    Good stuff today, Mike!

    ^^^ In reference to “comical” in the writeup. I realized it might seem like I was talking to you Phil

    first thing that comes to mind is the “S” people would draw when bored during class in middle school

    these
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    I didn’t necessarily say it was a Superman logo (though it was the first thing that came to mind). I probably should have said it looks too cartoonish, like a comic book, to me. The track font is very similar and I am not a fan.

    I’m probably not the first to say this, but I think the USA looks like a stealth bomber.

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    Oh for crying out loud, I’m not even the first person to say it in this nested comment.

    Sorry if the Nenê thing was a joke, but he actually does not have a last name. He was born Maybyner Rodney Hilário, nicknamed Nenê (baby) as child, and legally changed his name to simple Nenê in 2003

    Ah, good to know. On the Olympic website he was listed as Nene Hilario, but I had never heard that before.

    translation “derp, let me be condescending about another fan base because a team that isn’t a traditional powerhouse can not have a fans”

    i like that style of cover art for media guides, wish more teams did it

    in response to harvey lee’s comments about track number issues:
    1. the beach volleyball numbers are just 1 & 2 amongst the pairs (like any team sport) whereas the track numbers are individual athlete numbers for the whole event. totally different.
    2. the “lane stickers” are not a lane-specific thing. they have them in longer events where people don’t have a specific lane as well. at an event as well-covered and regulated as the olympics they probably don’t need them, but they do that at track meets of every level. i wore them a number of times in high school and i never had one fall off my shorts or leg. they’re usually pretty sticky.

    Correct, but the hip/leg stickers are used for ease of identification for a photo finish.

    For that matter, aren’t they using a digital photo set (2000 frames/second), synched to the clock, to determine finishing times? Thus making every race, in a sense, a photo finish?

    The LM on Sergio Romo’s hat is a memorial to a coach he had in Little League or high school that recently passed away.

    Has anybody seen what the Penn State ribbons will look like? Personally, I think they should place those ribbons on the side of the PSU helmets. I have an example here: link

    It is the flag on the back of Brazil’s jersey. Just like in the US. In closer looks, you can see the stripe where it should read “Ordem e Progresso”.

    I used to love to play table tennis. Got pretty good at it. So I tried to watch it in the Olympics. The Chinese shirts with dragon on it is sweet.

    Badminton is another fun sport to watch.

    No love or uni breakdown for the women’s hoops teams? Nor the women’s soccer teams (which has produced a much more exciting tourney by far) of these Olympics??

    sorry julie…no one volunteered for those

    if you’d like to do a breakdown of either or both, drop me a line and i’ll try to slot it in for next week

    The women’s teams got equal billing in Monday’s 5&1. Not that anyone read it…

    I caught it and I did appreciate the women’s teams getting attention. Even the bad…China/Angola yikes!

    Great stuff today as usual. I also thought of Hawaii, in looking at the Russian team sweats/unis. First noticed it in gymnastics. As promised, the ice cream store commercials were creepy. Loved them for some reason. Especially the “Psycho” sounding music at the end of one of them. I forget which one. And that Chicago Soul logo seems to feature? some of that radioactive snot green that Seattle (Sounders/Seahawks_) seems to infuse in to some of their worthless uniforms.

    As a Nebraska fan/alum, I’ll be the first to tell you that I like the N on the Wisconsin jersey much, much more that the “Noid” jersey.

    Definitely some good work.

    Why has she got a navel on her back?

    On second thoughts – don’t answer that.

    Just watched the 110m hurdles and thought it strange that Deghelt of Belgium had a strange apread to the national name on his vest:
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    Something that doesn’t appear to be standard part of the vests:
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    I saw the same thing, but I believe I saw it on Belgium’s Decathlete. I could be mistaken though. It looks like they’re just going the extra mile to avoid the whole “Natinals” mistake since that uniform you linked to zips up the chest.

    “The Adirondack Phantoms, the minor league AHL affiliate of the Flyers, will be wearing throwback jerseys in honor of the Glens Falls Civic Center’s former tenants – the Adirondack Red Wings…,”

    What better way is there for a team that’s about to leave town to honor the team that already left town?

    They should suit up as the Washington Senators this season too. They’d be just as true to their franchise history as the Nats are.

    An over sight. I noticed it the day after I sent the article in to Phil. Dropped the ball.

    Only on the home whites. Briefly mentioned in Monday’s 5&1…not that anyone besides Julie read it…

    Watching the Olympic BMX qualifier rounds and man, that course they’re riding on is just beautiful.

    So I just watched T.O. do a press conference in what appeared to be an undershirt with the Packer’s “G” logo. Wait,what ?

    Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere but why do the US women’s olympic soccer uniforms have no flag or federation or other identifying logo on them?

    No federation logos are allowed at the Olympics.

    As to why there is no logo at all, either Nike did not take the initiative to suggest an alternate logo (the flag, a USA wordmark, or the circular badge that Nike puts on the podium attire), or US Soccer didn’t ask for such an alternative.

    I don’t think we can agree that the 1992 Dream Team’s uniforms are better than the 2012 team’s.

    The 1996 “USA Basketball” logo looks too block-ish and kind of like a practice jersey. We know it’s basketball, they don’t need to clutter up the jersey by telling us that.

    I do agree that 2008’s basic jersey is the best. This year’s is okay.

    …(thanks to the only MISL fan on UW, Jim Vilk).

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    Granted, I’m not on here as much as Jim is to make my love for indoor soccer well known, but I grew up in Wichita, KS and have been a MISL and Wichita Wings fan since the franchise’s inception.

    It’s great to have the Wings back after the franchise was dormant for several years. Hopefully, after they release the 2012-2013 schedule sometime later this month and I can look at how well their home schedule does or doesn’t line up with my work schedule, I can see if it will be worth my while to buy season tickets to their games and make the 360 mile round trip from Oklahoma City to Wichita and back for each game.

    Wings (and MISL) fan for life!

    This is for you, my brother:
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    Not a Wings fan, but I am glad to see them back. Just waiting for some of the other old teams to join them.

    Ah, thanks for the memory. I do remember it well.

    I’d love to see the bulk of the teams return…even the reviled St Louis Steamers. Oh how we loved it when we could put a whoopin on Steve Pecher and Slobo!

    Was surprised to see the Dallas Sidekicks reform but then go to a different league. We need a merger and a 20 team league again! If it wouldn’t bankrupt some of the teams in the process, that is…

    Where do your loyalties lie, both in the heyday of the MISL and in the current soccer world?

    Vintage MISL: Spirit and Blast. Also liked the Stars, Sidekicks and Lazers. Didn’t like the Force then, but I miss them now.

    Current soccer: Blast, DC United, Toronto FC, West Bromwich Albion, Celtic FC (although someone besides Celtic and Rangers needs to win an SPL crown…it’s ridiculous).

    My phone defaulted to mobile view and won’t go back, so I can’t nest this properly, but it’s regarding the TO pic with an alleged Packers shirt. After a little googling I can now relax knowing that’s NOT the case…

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    It’s some new technology BS.

    Well, that ends the “the G stands for…” jokes before they even began…

    By the way, get well soon!

    From a field hockey player– for those of you wondering about the masks, in field hockey on a penalty corner the defense only gets a GK and 4 players to defend the cage to begin. The ball gets passed out from the end line to offensive players at the top of the circle (16 m). The offense only has to put the ball *just* over the line and then can crack it into the cage– on a water-based turf, the initial shot can happen in less than 3 seconds.

    The ball is a hard plastic, hollow in the center, about the size of a baseball. The sticks are composite material– an elite player can drive (like a golf swing) or flick the ball at incredibly high speeds. Add in a water-based turf where the ball flies with minimal friction and you have a recipe for broken bones if proper protection isn’t worn! Goalies wear all those pads because we *have to* and we still get bruised through them!

    At lower hockey levels (college to semi-professional) often only 1 player wears the face mask. The role of at least 1 player is to sprint face-first at the ball to attempt to disrupt the initial head-on shot. Those Hannibal masks have become a necessity as the game has gotten faster in the last 20 years!

    Hope that sheds some light onto a (semi-obscure) sport! You should also take a look at field hockey GK pads– there are some bad-ass combinations of gear out there!

    -Meo

    Without the benefit of surviving jerseys/uniforms from this era, we can only rely on educated guesswork, IF we know the colors the teams wore during these years. I’m thinking Marc Okkonen himself, the godfather of baseball uniform research, may have done educated guesswork in the 1900-1935 era in terms of the colors baseball teams wore.

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