Braves NickNOBs Revisited

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Last Tuesday’s entry, about the 1976 Braves’ nickNOBs, generated lots of very positive response (thanks, gang) and some good suggestions as well, so it’s time for a follow-up.

First and foremost, regarding the question of whether Jerry Royster ever wore “Rooster” in addition to “J.Bird” (we have photographic evidence for the latter but not for the former), several readers pointed out that Royster is now the third base coach for the Red Sox, so I contacted the Sox PR people and asked about this. They checked with Royster, and here’s the word from the man himself: He never wore “Rooster,” only “J.Bird.” So any lists showing him wearing “Rooster” are wrong. I wish they would have let me speak with Royster directly, because I’d love to pick his brain about the whole nickNOB issue, but they weren’t willing to do that.

A few readers also contributed information and research that have added a few more pieces to the puzzle. Here’s a rundown:

Reader Mark Haarmann posted the following comment last Tuesday:

It’s amazing what memories stick with you after all these years. I distinctly remember watching a Cards/Braves telecast from 1976. Adrian Devine came in to pitch for the Braves in extra innings. His nickname-on-back was “Bing,” an obvious reference to the better-known Cardinals GM Bing Devine. I remember the broadcasters mentioning that if the Cards win this game in extra innings, the headline in the next day’s papers should read, “Cards Beat Bing Devine.” Of all the C-list players that passed through during my years following sports, I never forgot Adrian “Bing” Devine because of the nickname on the back of his jersey.

I’m not willing to treat this as a confirmed Braves nickNOB (especially since it seems odd that the Braves would use a nickNOB that referred to another team’s GM). But I too have primal memories of specific sports moments from long ago, and Mark’s account feels persuasive. So I’m willing to add Adrian Devine’s “Bing” to our master chart of Braves nickNOBs, although for now it’s definitely unconfirmed.

Next, reader J.G. Preston did some digging in the Sporting News archives (which it turns out I have access to, but I didn’t realize that, or else I would have done this digging myself) and came up with some good stuff from 1976. First, there’s this item from May 29:

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The primary value of this clipping is that it takes several nickNOBs that had previously been questionable and moves them into the “Confirmed” category, including Darrl Chaney’s “Nort,” Roger Moret’s “Gallo,” and Dave May’s “Chopper.” (Interestingly, Jerry Royster’s nickNOB is referred to as “Jay Bird,” although we have photographic evidence that it wasn’t spelled that way.)

Also, note that this clipping indicates that the nickNOBs were Ted Turner’s idea — not Andy Messersmith’s (as Sports Illustrated had claimed) or publicist Bob Hope’s (as Turner himself claimed in his autobiography).

As you may recall from Tuesday’s entry, there was also some dispute as to whether Turner or Messersmith had come up with the idea of having Messersmith wear “Channel 17.” A hint is provided by this Sporting News item from April 24:

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Note that this item was published several weeks before the Braves started wearing nickNOBs. But you can see Turner was already thinking about the connection between his star pitcher and his TV station.

Another lingering issue from Tuesday’s entry was the question of who put the kibosh on “Channel 17″ — was it National League president Chub Feeney or MLB Commissioner Bowie Kuhn? The following two Sporting News items, from June 5 and June 19, respectively, indicate that it was Feeney:

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Reader Matthew Namee found two additional newspaper items confirming that it was Feeney, not Kuhn, who cracked down on “Channel 17.” The first one ran in the Chicago Tribune and the second in the Pasadena Star, both on May 16:

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Note that the second item, aside from confirming Feeney over Kuhn, also includes this line: “Messersmith, like all the Braves’ players, has a nickname sewn on the back of his uniform” (emphasis mine). This is the first time I’ve seen explicit confirmation that the nickNOBs were a team-wide phenomenon. This means, as I mentioned last week, that there are several players and nickNOBs still unaccounted for.

With all of this in mind, I’ve updated our master chart to reflect the Adrian Devine possibility, the nickNOBs mentioned in the first May 29 Sporting News clipping, and the elimination of “Rooster.” The chart now looks like this:

PlayerNickNOBSourceAssessment
Darrel ChaneyNortMemories and Dreams article; Sporting News clipping from 5/29/76Confirmed
Vic CorrellBird DogNickNOB is mentioned in SI article, but corresponding player is not; Correll is linked to this nickNOB in the Memories and Dreams article; several other internet lists and articles mention this one, although it's not clear how many of them are simply cribbing from each other.SI is reputable, so this nickNOB was clearly worn by someone. Given the Memories and Dreams corroboration, it seems likely that it was Correll. Also, this article indicates that Correll trained bird dogs in Georgia. Probably legit.
Bruce Dal CantonProfNickNOB is mentioned in SI article, but corresponding player is not; Dal Canton is linked to this nickNOB in the Memories and Dreams article; several other internet lists and articles mention this one, although it's not clear how many of them are simply cribbing from each other.SI is reputable, so this nickNOB was clearly worn by someone. Given the Memories and Dreams corroboration, it seems likely that it was Dal Canton. Also, this obituary says Dal Canton was "like a pitching professor." Probably legit, although I'd prefer to see visual confirmation.
Adrian DevineBingUni Watch reader Mark Haarmann's recollection, as posted in this commentUnconfirmed
Darrell EvansHowdyMy 2004 ESPN column. Reader Steven Kraljic, who provided a list of nickNOBs that I used for that column, said Evans wore "Howdy -- as in Howdy Doody."Unconfirmed
Ralph GarrRoadrunnerMy 2004 ESPN column; Rob Neyer's 2003 book Rob Neyer's Big Book of Baesball Lineups, page 253.Completely bogus -- Garr didn't even play for the Braves in 1976. Embarrassing that I ever wrote that.
Lee LacyLaceSt. Petersburg Times articleThe St. Pete Times piece was published while the Braves were still wearing the nickNOBs (not after the fact), so I'm inclined to view it as accurate. Probably legit.
Dave May ChopperSporting News item from 5/29/76; also mentioned in the book A Stitch in Time: A Baseball Chronology, by Gene Elston, page 63Confirmed
Andy MessersmithChannelThis photoConfirmed
Andy MessersmithBlutoMentioned in SI articleConfirmed
Roger MoretGalloNickNOB is mentioned in SI article, but corresponding player is not; Gallo is linked to this nickNOB in the Memories and Dreams article and also in the Sporting News item from 5/29/76.Confirmed
Phil NiekroKnucksieMemories and Dreams article; this Mitchell & Ness reproduction; Ted Turner's autobiographyLots of problems here: Memories and Dreams article is suspect; Mitchell & Ness repros are notoriously unreliable; Mitchell & Ness repro uses arched NOB, while photos of confirmed Braves nickNOBs show a straight NOB; Turner's autobiography has several suspect claims regarding the nickNOBs. Unconfirmed, pending more definitive evidence.
Rowland OfficeRowSt. Petersburg Times articleThe St. Pete Times piece was published while the Braves were still wearing the nickNOBs (not after the fact), so I'm inclined to view it as accurate. Probably legit.
Tom PaciorekWimpyNickNOB is mentioned in SI article, but corresponding player is not; Paciorek is linked to this nickNOB in the Memories and Dreams article and the St. Petersburg Times article.SI is reputable, so this nickNOB was clearly worn by someone, and multiple sources indicate that Paciorek's nickname was Wimpy. Confirmed.
Marty PerezTacoSt. Petersburg Times articleThe St. Pete Times piece was published while the Braves were still wearing the nickNOBs (not after the fact), so I'm inclined to view it as accurate. Probably legit.
Biff PocorobaPocoSt. Petersburg Times articleThe St. Pete Times piece was published while the Braves were still wearing the nickNOBs (not after the fact), so I'm inclined to view it as accurate. Probably legit.
Jerry RoysterJ.BirdThis photo and this photoConfirmed
Jerry RoysterRoosterMemories and Dreams articleBogus. Refuted by Jerry Royster himself.
Earl WilliamsHeavyNickNOB is mentioned in SI article, but corresponding player is not; Williams is linked to this nickNOB in the Memories and Dreams article; several other internet lists and articles mention this one, although it's not clear how many of them are simply cribbing from each other. SI is reputable, so this nickNOB was clearly worn by someone. Given the Memories and Dreams corroboration, it seems likely that it was Williams. Also, this article indicates that Williams frequently battled weight problems and was referred to by some Atlanta sportswriters as "Fat Earl." Probably legit.
Jimmy WynnCannonMemories and Dreams article and this photoWynn's longtime nickname was indeed the Toy Cannon, and that photo is from an auction of a supposedly game-worn jersey. Interestingly, Wynn, in his own autobiography, states that his nickNOB was "The Toy Cannon" (not just "Cannon"). Seems unlikely that they'd be able to fit all of that on the jersey, and athletes' autobios aren't generally known for their factual consistency. In any case, at least Wynn's account appears to confirm that he wore some nickNOB. "Cannon" seems most likely.
Unknown playerMoNickNOB is mentioned in SI article, but corresponding player is not. No further info available.Roger Moret seems like the most obvious candidate for this one, but other sources say he wore "Gallo." Maybe pitcher Carl Morton..? First baseman Willie Montanez? This one remains a mystery.

So that’s where we stand now. I’ll run additional updates as the situation warrants. Okay? Okay.

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If you think nickNOB research is tricky, it’s nothing compared to kind of research that goes into the Permanent Record project. My latest entry on the PermaRec blog gives a step-by-step breakdown of how one of my research volunteers solved a particularly tricky puzzle. It’s pretty amazing and really shows how hard it is to be good researcher — check it out here.

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129 comments to Braves NickNOBs Revisited

  • Phil Hecken | June 27, 2012 at 7:45 am |

    awesome brittain!

  • Pierre | June 27, 2012 at 7:51 am |

    So…are the Padres switching to a new camo pattern to demonstrate how much they love our troops?

  • scott | June 27, 2012 at 8:01 am |

    A few days ago it was mentioned here and on other boards that the Rockford Riverhawks of the Frontier League might be the first professional baseball team to have advertisements on their uniforms. Another professional team wearing ads this season is the Grand Prairie AirHogs of the American Association. Their red jerseys have a small “QT” patch on the right chest, reflecting QuikTrip, which is also the sponsor for its stadium. Does anyone know if these patches have been worn by the team in previous seasons?

    • adam | June 27, 2012 at 10:07 am |

      The Camden Riversharks have had a WAWA patch on their left sleeve home and away for at least three years

      http://www.flickr.co...

      they are unaffiliated, does that count?

      • Patrick | June 27, 2012 at 10:39 am |

        The Gastonia Grizzlies of the Coastal Plains League (a wooden bat league) wear a Kia patch on their sleeve.

        • scott | June 27, 2012 at 10:45 am |

          Yes, Camden absolutely does count. So sources like ballparkdigest that are reporting Rockford in 2012 is the first pro baseball team to wear uniform ads are wrong.

          The Gastonia Grizzlies aren’t a professional team, so I wouldn’t count them. I know the North Adams Steeplecats, also not a professional team, wear Hoosac Bank patches.

  • Bas | June 27, 2012 at 8:06 am |

    pretty sure I saw Joe DiMaggio warming up in red sox uni once, as a joke.

  • Bas | June 27, 2012 at 8:07 am |
    • JamesP. | June 27, 2012 at 8:25 am |

      That looks so strange! Almost like something from a What If Baseball site…just need to find on of Ted Williams in a Yankees uni to have a bookend on the trade that never happened.

    • Keith | June 27, 2012 at 9:46 am |

      Then, there’s this:

      http://www.youtube.c...

  • PhilP | June 27, 2012 at 8:10 am |
    • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 8:33 am |

      Gross.

    • Fred | June 27, 2012 at 9:52 am |

      “MBTA passengers would reap most of the benefits from the naming rights, said Mark E. Boyle, the MBTA’s assistant general manager for development. With the infusion of money, the T could upgrade WiFi on the commuter rail, improve access for the visually impaired, and upgrade the stations’ aesthetics, Boyle said.”

      Good enough for me.

      • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 9:58 am |

        It’s their job to do all of that stuff anyway. The idea that none of this would happen without corporate sponsorship is a false choice, and the idea that there’s no social cost to the selling off of civic capital is just false, period.

        • Fred | June 27, 2012 at 11:00 am |

          MBTA has been in debt for as long as I can remember. The problem is that a huge chunk of their portion goes to fund pension plans for MBTA retirees. They make an abnormal amount of money.

          It’s already close to 3 bucks per ride (can be cheaper with a monthly pass) but the price is already ridiculous and they’re sinking further and further into debt.

          I’m not the biggest fan of the sponsorship either but right now, the whole MBTA budget is so severely fucked up. Blame it on management, blame it on the passengers who sleuth pass the gates but something’s gotta be done about this crisis. I wouldn’t mind this being a stop gap measure for only 8 years (that’s how long the sponsorship would last anyway). If they can get out of debt by then, then great. But this is a small measure towards reformation of the budget system.

      • Teebz | June 27, 2012 at 10:32 am |

        Upgrade WiFi? Really? It’s a bloody train station, not an Internet cafe.

        Look, I can upgrade the WiFi for about $100 in parts, and an additional $100/mth. If you need corporate sponsorship for that, you’re either not charging your riders enough, or you don’t need to upgrade that badly. And if you need corporate sponsorship for that, you’re hemmorhaging red ink at some point in your budget.

        As an IT guy, there’s a cost that users have to balance between usage and availability. If your users want better WiFi, they had better be prepared to pay for it. Otherwise, enjoy the spotty WiFi and use the station for its main purpose instead of being a hotspot.

        Improving access for the visually impaired should have been done long before WiFi was even an issue. Improving aesthetics is what we, in the real world, call “maintenance and upkeep”. Both of those are civic issues, and both should already have been included into the budget.

        It just goes to show that Mark E. Boyle’s bosses have their priorities pathetically out of whack.

        • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 10:36 am |

          If your users want better WiFi, they had better be prepared to pay for it.

          Maybe:
          http://bits.blogs.ny...

        • Teebz | June 27, 2012 at 10:55 am |

          That’s a limited time offer, Paul. Google will only cover the costs until September 7 according to the article. That being said, having “Boston WiFi brought to you by (insert company here)”? I fully endorse that idea as opposed to having a company buy the rights to the station.

          WiFi is not a civic responsibility. Providing access for the visually impaired and continued maintenance and improvement is. WiFi is a luxury – the riders should be prepared to pay for it if corporate sponsors do not.

        • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 11:16 am |

          WiFi is not a civic responsibility.

          Oh, I totally agree. I only posted that link because I thought it was interesting, not because I think “it’s the way things should be.”

          Personally, I think most people (myself included) spend enough time staring at their phones. We can all live without wifi for the length of a subway ride…

        • PhilP | June 27, 2012 at 1:28 pm |

          I dunno, I appreciate wifi on my train into Boston (I live about an hour from the city). While not essential, as I keep all my files on my PC, it’s helpful to have my writing drafts updated in dropbox as I save stuff. Yeah, the wifi sucks, but I’d rather have cheaper fare.

          Fortunately work subsidizes quite a bit for my commute, but I also do some cost saving things like walk a mile to and from South Station rather than hop on the subway and avoid buying monthly passes (I commute 3 days a week so it makes no sense to buy rides I don’t need).

    • adam | June 27, 2012 at 10:11 am |

      Welcome to my world. I pontificate whene’er i’m in that station but my friends all just tell me to shut up and eat a pretzel.

      http://en.wikipedia....(SEPTA_station)#Naming_rights

      • adam | June 27, 2012 at 10:14 am |

        sorry, those, parentheses threw off the link, the story is here too.

        http://www.bizjourna...

      • ChrisH | June 27, 2012 at 12:34 pm |

        NYC’s MTA should rename Van Siclen Ave. Station after this guy:

        http://www.nydailyne...

        …and should consider him for an open position?

  • Boxcarvibe | June 27, 2012 at 8:17 am |

    If there’s an issue with the new camouflage pattern, I can’t see it.

    • G.D. | June 27, 2012 at 8:45 am |

      (golf clap) Nicely played.

      • Flip | June 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm |

        Agreed.

  • scott | June 27, 2012 at 8:24 am |

    Reggie Jackson wore Mariners gear during the 1979 All-Star Game festivities and I think John Kruk and perhaps some other Phillie had to wear Braves gear during the 1992 All-Star Game festivities.

    • Matt Beahan | June 27, 2012 at 10:37 am |

      San Antonio Spurs’ Mike Gale wore an inside-out Bullets road uni during game 6 of the ’78 East semis – he’d lost his uniform travelling to the game:

      http://img80.imagesh...

      • Matt Beahan | June 27, 2012 at 10:39 am |

        Just found some more info – apparently George Gervin and Mo Layton also lost their unis en route. Gervin wore a blank #33, and Layton also wore an inside-out Bullets road uni…

  • Jeff Katz | June 27, 2012 at 8:28 am |

    As to players wearing the uni of another team, here’s the famous incident of Hank Greenebrg donning Yanks gear. http://zellspinstrip...

  • John G. Livewell | June 27, 2012 at 9:03 am |

    Interesting point about Utley’s stint at Lehigh Valley, the Phillies require their minor league teams to wear their uniform pants “properly.”

    So some great pics of Utley with “proper” pants are available here…http://www.philly.co...

    Sorry to Lukas…no stirrups :(

    • jerry | June 27, 2012 at 10:06 am |

      the number on front of his jersey looks more like a “seven” than a two. Any other pix to get a better view?

    • Gary | June 27, 2012 at 12:56 pm |

      MLB teams should impose these rules. If the Yankees can say no facial hair, they should be able to say no pajama pants too…

    • Matthew Radican | June 27, 2012 at 1:02 pm |

      That makes no sense. The Phillies make their minor leaguers wear their uniforms “properly”. However, once they make the major leagues (where they should be forced to wear their uniforms “properly”) they are allowed to look like assclowns i.e. Prince Fielder or Manny Ramirez.

      • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 2:07 pm |

        Minor leaguers have no union; big leaguers do, and any additional uniform rules would have to be collectively bargained.

        • Phil Hecken | June 27, 2012 at 10:06 pm |

          “any additional uniform rules would have to be collectively bargained.”

          ~~~~

          so, they’ve collectively bargained to look like a bunch of ass clowns?

        • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 10:17 pm |

          Nice, Phil.

        • Le Cracquere | June 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm |

          Pretty much, Phil. Don’t know about you, but I’m about ready for a sartorial Haymarket.

    • LI Matt | June 27, 2012 at 8:00 pm |

      This has come up before. Apparently Utley was told he could wear pajamas if he wanted, but he chose to go along with the team rule.

    • Todd Krevanchi | June 28, 2012 at 12:50 am |

      Is “properly” your term or their term?

      I would think that the phillies minor league affiliates require their players not to wear their pants “properly” but cuffed below the knee.

      Using the term “properly” is a opinion.

      Cuffing pants below the knee looks ABSOLUTELY ridiculous in this era. I’ll offer exceptions for those who tailor their pants to “period appropriate” bulk like Ian Kinsler and Juan Pierre. Guys who wear their pants like Alphonso Soriano look like absolute goofs in this era.

      You know what else looks great? Solid color tops or “softball jerseys” as they are called on this board. The blast of color is a pleasant occasional burst to an otherwise standard uniform.

      I realize my views are unpopular to many on this board, and thats fine. I was an original reader of Uniwatch well before there was a daily blog, and then into the time when there was. After I while I, didnt appreciate being preached to that “long pants bad, stirrups good”, one is right, one is wrong. I then became an occasional reader, and then not one at all… for years. Recently when I was contacted that I was mentioned in an article, I hopped over to check it out. I started reading again occasionaly, and I still see that the opinions of the board’s administrators are still heavily pushed on the readership and that those with differing opinions are not looked upon very well. Its a shame too, because I liked this board. Its a about a topic I am interested in and is niche enough that only few of us actually care about it. This niche isnt about what’s right and what’s wrong its that we all are interested in it. When one’s opinion is impressed to all as ritht, that’s wrong.

      • John G. Livewell | June 28, 2012 at 10:51 am |

        “Properly” was my term…as I am in the camp that pajamas should not be worn on the field.

        I was also pandering to my conservative base…I love stirrups too…

      • Besty | June 28, 2012 at 9:51 pm |

        Well said Todd. I am of the both sides camp. I feel that cuffed pants and stirrups look good and I still do that at times when I play but pajama pants are way more comfortable and lower maintenance. Recently I had trouble with my stirrups staying in my shoe when I pitched and remembered how annoying that is.

  • Kevin | June 27, 2012 at 9:20 am |

    Love the first comment on the Iowa throwback design. Classic!

  • pushbutton | June 27, 2012 at 9:28 am |

    One thing intriguing me is that the Braves NickNOBs were of the seldom-seen ‘straight across’ variety.

    Other than the 1971-86 Oakland As, I don’t know of another Major League example of that.

    • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 9:33 am |

      Excellent point.

      Braves also used straight NOBs for their 1979-80 BP jerseys:
      http://farm9.static....

    • walter | June 27, 2012 at 10:27 am |

      I’m pretty sure the California Angels’ first use of players’ names went straight across, in 1978. They were also single-color red, even though the numbers were two-color.

      • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 10:34 am |

        True, or at least somewhat true:
        http://farm8.static....

      • pushbutton | June 27, 2012 at 1:15 pm |

        Good catch there!

        I don’t have proof, but I could almost swear the Angels did something very strange in the 70s — in the Nolan Ryan era, at some point, they wore NOBs at home and went NNOB on the road!

        I think I checked the Henderson Guide once, but he’s not 100% accurate NOBwise.

  • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 9:30 am |

    re: New logos for the Chicagoland Speedway

    Why are the buildings slanted?

    • walter | June 27, 2012 at 10:44 am |

      Illusion of speed. Just for fun, do a GIS of “Ray Harroun, Marmon Wasp”

  • Bernard | June 27, 2012 at 9:31 am |

    “… Ted Turner, the yachting commodore recently sworn in as the Braves’ major domo…”

    Love this. Just love it.

  • Rich | June 27, 2012 at 9:33 am |

    Jimmy Wynn’s nickname was indeed “The Toy Cannon.” He’s referred by Astros broadcasters and writers all the time, and that’s where he played most of his career.

    • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 9:35 am |

      Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t settle the question of whether his nickNOB was “Cannon” (as several sources indicate) or “The Toy Cannon” (as he claimed in his autobiography but seems unlikely, because it probably wouldn’t fit on the jersey).

  • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 9:37 am |

    Not to sound like some flag burning hippie, but $5 billion frickin’ dollars for ugly camos?! Maybe it’s time we rid of the military & its lavish & fiscally irresponsible ways.

    This country needs a kick in the ass on the value of a dollar.

    • walter | June 27, 2012 at 10:31 am |

      “Rid of the military & its lavish ways”: Flag-burning hippie.
      “Rid the military of its lavish ways”: Concerned patriot.

      • Arr Scott | June 27, 2012 at 10:50 am |

        James Madison, father of the Constitution and flag-burning hippie:

        http://memory.loc.go...:./temp/~ammem_kmli::%230010495&linkText=1

        Also worth noting that the whole “backwards flag on the right shoulder” thing was the result of the same process of arbitrary top-brass branding BS that produced the flawed camo. At least that one only desecrates the flag, rather than getting people shot.

      • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 10:52 am |

        Before somebody paints me into a political corner, I don’t appreciate being labeled a Republican or Democrat. It’s nobody’s business who I vote for.

        In tough times, NOBODY is above fiscal cuts. This constant & impossible need of entitlement in higher living of standards in this country is appalling. Live within your means & deal.

        Enough people kiss the military’s ass as it is; they don’t need me.

        • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 11:02 pm |

          HA! You don’t like being painted into political corners?!

          Maybe the next time you say that, it shouldn’t be said on the same day when you call out others (today: me) for a hypothesized political allegiance even thou said person called you out for a clearly flawed argument.

          And I’ve voted for more Republicans in my life than Democrats because I may be liberal but I make decisions based on facts not political allegiance, so I’d shut the hell up if I were you.

        • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 11:52 pm |

          Real subtle, TimE. Nobody needs to know your voting history, even though there’s no way to prove it.

        • Phil Hecken | June 28, 2012 at 12:00 am |

          “Nobody needs to know your voting history, even though there’s no way to prove it”

          ~~~

          uh huh

    • Kyle Allebach | June 27, 2012 at 10:39 am |

      It costs a lot of money to screw up that bad.

      /It would be one thing if it actually worked…

      • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 10:48 am |

        Even if it did work, there is no way you could possibly justify spending THAT much money on a uniform especially on our taxpayer dime.

        • Semper Mets | June 27, 2012 at 5:39 pm |

          Haha, it’s about time. For YEARS the army was denying that the only reason they chose that camouflaged patterns was because it “worked.” NONSENSE!

          As an active duty Marine who couldn’t care less about what frigging uniform he wears as long as it prevents me from being seen, and therefore shot, just force the entire military to wear the Marine Corps pattern, because for now, and for the past decade of war, it’s been proven to be the only good camouflage patterns around (multi-cam is really good though, and I would love for a REAL study to be done in Quantico by the Marine Corps Sniper Program to be, whatever cammo is better, gets worn by ALL BRANCHES! Sadly, the Marine Corps “leadership” is just as much to blame because, in the perfect example of “small penis syndrome,” didn’t want other branches to share the same pattern.

          This is why generals need to be forced out after 35 years, and why most Generals with the exception of Patreus and Mattis are nothing more than politicians wearing a uniform.

          SO glad our budget is being cut; the military is like the stereotypical welfare recipient of the ghetto, give us money for food and equipment and we waste the stuff on designer clothing and rims.

        • Semper Mets | June 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm |

          To reply to Concealed78’s post: “Even if it did work, there is no way you could possibly justify spending THAT much money on a uniform especially on our taxpayer dime.” I must disagree.

          THAT is the only uniform I own that serves a specific function, and therefore that amount of money should be spent on such a purpose.

          That said, why in God’s name do I have 7+ other uniforms that I’ve worn a combined 8 times in the past 9 years? Let us count:

          3 different covers (aka hats)
          2 different “dress Jackets”
          1 Long Sleeve Khaki Shirt
          1 Short Sleeve Khaki Shirt
          2 different colors of Trousers

          Not to mention, they issue us 2 of each for the shirts and trousers (granted, they dock our pay for it), but why even manufacture that mount of stuff that A) Doesn’t help us defend freedom, B) doesn’t help us fight, or C) doesn’t prevent us from getting shot?

        • Phil Hecken | June 27, 2012 at 10:09 pm |

          wow

          just when i thought i’d never see the words “marines” and “small penis syndrome” in the same sentence…

  • Jason M (DC) | June 27, 2012 at 9:59 am |

    I don’t know if this was touched on before, but…
    After the Joel Peralta pine tar in the glove ejection against the Washington Nationals, Peralta was using Jeremy Hellickson’s glove the next night. Hellickson was just put on the DL the day before.

  • jerry | June 27, 2012 at 10:03 am |

    So Chicagoland is one word, but the ICON LOGO is ” C L S ”

    WTF??

    • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 1:32 pm |

      Chicagoland has always been one word (http://en.wikipedia.... ), but just like the TV station named for the word (Chicagoland Television, or CLTV) they probably decided to use “CL” for clarification purposes.

      (Note, they split TV the same way, too)

      • pushbutton | June 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm |

        Am I the only one who looks at this logo and thinks, “CLIT TV”?

        • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 2:04 pm |

          Yes.

        • Tom V. | June 27, 2012 at 2:17 pm |

          Too funny, probably wouldn’t have noticed that but now I can’t stop seeing it.

        • Ben Fortney | June 27, 2012 at 2:19 pm |

          Nope

        • Chris K | June 27, 2012 at 2:36 pm |

          “Am I the only one who looks at this logo and thinks, “CLIT TV”?” Written by someone calling themselves “pushbutton”. Nice.

        • Phil Hecken | June 27, 2012 at 10:10 pm |

          it’s always easier to see the clit when there’s negative space involved

  • Joshua | June 27, 2012 at 10:09 am |

    That new duke helmet will help them win 2 games a year, more than the usual 1 or none

  • BrianC | June 27, 2012 at 10:25 am |

    “It’s some Aussie brand. No name, just a logo.”

    Kangaroo hide?

  • Flip | June 27, 2012 at 10:35 am |

    RE: Erik Kynard’s socks — do love of stripes trump hatred for purple?

    • Coach M | June 27, 2012 at 6:07 pm |

      I remember kynard wearing red striped socks when competing for Toledo Rogers HS. I coached kids who jumped against him and always were out before he even warmed up.

  • Stephen | June 27, 2012 at 10:53 am |

    Utley actually wore 21 because 26 wasn’t available in his size. Even though Ferrous does don the atomic number for iron…

  • Smitty | June 27, 2012 at 11:07 am |

    Nice Cole Field House beer pong table, Mike Bailey. GO TERPS!

    • Jim Vilk | June 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm |

      I was hoping for the center court M that faced one of the baskets (from the 70s, I think?), but that’s still a very nice table! Great job.

    • Mike | June 28, 2012 at 9:30 am |

      Thanks!

  • JJD | June 27, 2012 at 11:21 am |

    There is a pretty sweet photo within this article of Penn State football helmets with uni numbers, like Alabama.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • todd krevanchi | June 27, 2012 at 11:42 am |

    I think it would have been clever for Turner to have Messersmith wear “Chub” as his nickname.

    • pushbutton | June 27, 2012 at 1:42 pm |

      Shades of the Rozelle headband! Love it.

  • Eddie | June 27, 2012 at 12:35 pm |

    “Speaking of pitchers’ gloves, Domenico Delgado noticed that A’s pitcher Travis Blackley uses a weird glove brand. I’d never seen that logo before, so I asked A’s equipment manager Steve Vucinich, who said, “It’s some Aussie brand. No name, just a logo.””

    Not quite. Blackley uses a glove manufactured by a Japanese company by the name of Morimoto.

    • JDrive | June 27, 2012 at 12:57 pm |

      Blackley was born in Australia and played in Korea last season. Probably when he started using the glove.

    • Brinke | June 27, 2012 at 11:09 pm |
  • snowdan | June 27, 2012 at 1:24 pm |

    The school district in West Saint Paul, MN is taking a healthier attitude towards advertising in schools. The key quote:

    “You’re not going to solve any school’s funding issue with advertising. I think it can show the residents of a community that you are looking for different revenue sources,” he said. “Once you cross the threshold of the school and go inside the building, that’s when I think people are going to react.”

    http://www.twincitie...

    • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 3:28 pm |

      I have a solution to the school funding issue but the problem is people keep breeding, so….

      • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 4:54 pm |

        You’re “solution” doesn’t actually make much sense.

        The larger the population, the less expensive school funding should be per tax payer.

        If you have 20 students per class room vs 30 in a class room, that’s the same room construction cost, same teacher salary, same building expenses…

        It’s like surface area, things that are the same “shape”, when larger, are more efficient than their smaller counterparts.

        • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 4:55 pm |

          your* “solution”

          stoopid speling

        • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 6:34 pm |

          …or… people could stop reproducing so much on a planet that can’t handle it, crowding up our roadways & polluting our air, creating more landfill space, burning more energy, creating toxic waste & drinking up all our fresh water, stop building subdivisions on fertile & important farmland while rapidly depleting all of our planet’s resources. Supply & demand. Less people = more supplies. Small classroom sizes are much preferred by everyone over large ones. Quality over quantity. In spite of what the Catholic Church says, less is more.

          And yes TimE, taxes can go down instead of always going up if you elect certain people.

        • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 6:51 pm |

          Actually, thanks to Fritz Haber, hydroponics, aquaponics and vertical farming the planet is estimated to comfortably hold 20+ Billion people.

          That’s roughly three times the amount of people there are today.

          Yes, pollution is bad, and so are taxes (I hate it that people get paid to respond to fires! Damn big government!) but the actual situation (if you pay attention to these sorts of things – as I am want to do) isn’t as grave or perilous as you may think.

          Also, please don’t talk down to me. I’m not as stupid and ill informed as you seem think I am.

        • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 7:23 pm |

          Young people giving me lip again, *grumble*

          That was more a knock towards your many previous UW comments and unabashed & blatant Liberal politics (way to be subtle, Tim).

          I don’t want to see 20 billion+ people on the planet. That’ll eat through the water & oil in no time & horrible congestion & smog that would create. It’s going to be truly frightening once China gets up to par with the rest of world. If that isn’t a foresight of what’s to come…

        • Phil Hecken | June 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm |

          hydroponics kick ass

  • possum | June 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm |

    The Lake County Captains pink jerseys aren’t just for ovarian cancer research (only a portion goes to that), they’re actually LGBT Pride jerseys for Pride Night. http://goo.gl/p8TBX Ground breaking, no matter how hideous they are.

    • Tom V. | June 27, 2012 at 2:14 pm |

      The assistant general manager nailed it!

      “…It’s 2012. Gay fans are no different from any other fans; their money is no different than anyone else’s money…”

      • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 4:04 pm |

        Sounds like something straight out of the Bud Selig School:

        “It doesn’t matter if it’s drug money or blood money or taxpayer money or frivolous lawsuit money or Big Oil money, money is money & it’s money in our pockets!”

        You know there was nothing preventing LGBT fans from attending before. This modern Look At Me / Everybody Gets To Feel Special Generation with all these parades & special interest groups is getting ridiculous.

        • Tim E. O'B | June 27, 2012 at 4:47 pm |

          Is there anything in this world that warms your frozen heart?

        • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 5:51 pm |

          The league-only balanced schedule, pitchers batting, no-hitters & perfect games, stuffed deep dish pizza, mowing the lawn & dog walks. And of course, coupons, store sales & buying in bulk.

          And stay off my lawn.

    • syn_tax | June 27, 2012 at 2:29 pm |

      It is also worth uni-noting that they were designed by Joshua McKinley, a Lake County native who finished as first runner-up on a recent season of Project Runway.

      The Captains also host a Bridal Show on Sunday, so it makes some financial sense to hope for cross-over appeal for the jersey auction with that crowd.

      I wouldn’t wear one. Good colors for a lemonade franchise, though!

      • ChrisH | June 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm |

        “finished as first runner-up” = lost.

        • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 4:11 pm |

          Nice.

    • concealed78 | June 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm |

      Looks like Barbie dolls melted in the microwave.

  • Brendon | June 27, 2012 at 1:49 pm |

    Paul, I know how you are about details, so I just wanted to mention that you spelled Niekro’s name wrong in your master list.

    • Paul Lukas | June 27, 2012 at 2:10 pm |

      Thanks — now fixed.

  • StLMarty | June 27, 2012 at 1:52 pm |

    When is Peyton Manning going to realize that the hideous Ridell Revolution has better face masks. He still wears one of the originals. It looks like he could break that thing off at any moment a play a game of jai alai.

  • -Monty- | June 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |

    Re: A player wearing the uniform of another team:

    There was a bit of a kerfuffle when Derek Lowe appeared at the Red Sox’ 2005 Opening Day celebration of the 2004 champs wearing his #32 Red Sox jersey despite being an active roster player for the L.A. Dodgers at the time.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    After the MLB Network boys groused about it, the following conversation took place the next day on NESN:

    Gordon Edes: “He isn’t catching any heat back in California; you don’t hear Jim Tracy complain about it, you don’t hear any guys in the Dodgers club house complain about it. Talk about your media driven controversy, the only reason we are talking about this is John Kruk, and Harold Reynolds talking about this on ESPN and said that Derek Lowe showed bad judgment wearing a Red Sox jersey. Eck you’re old school, those guys are old school, they are claiming ‘we are old school we would never do that'”.

    Dennis Eckersley: “They are old school? Did John Kruk ever win anything? No, no, they lost, and Harold Reynolds won nothing in Seattle so spare me, what do they got to talk about?”

  • quiet seattle | June 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm |

    I don’t think about track and field much at all these days, but that ticker item about Erik Kynard’s stripes and Alysia Montano’s flower caught my attention.

    Track and Field coverage back in the day (late ’60’s to late ’70’s) was pretty compelling, especially during the Olympics. Maybe it’ll get interesting again.

  • DJ | June 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm |

    FC Dallas of MLS add a jersey sponsor, AdvoCare:

    http://www.footballk...

    • Chance Michaels | June 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm |

      Which, with the end of San Jose’s contract with Amway, keeps the level of pyramid scheme shirt-sponsors in MLS steady at 3.

      • Beats | June 27, 2012 at 5:14 pm |

        Herbalife is a given and XanGo? It’s hard to believe a team in the second biggest market in the country (LA) with the most marketable star (Beckham) has such a low rent shirt sponsor.

        • DJ | June 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm |

          It may be low-rent, but their deal with the Galaxy is the richest in the league, IIRC. $4.4 million per year (I think Seattle is second at $4 million even, followed by DC and Chicago).

    • Jim Vilk | June 27, 2012 at 10:27 pm |

      San Jose’s sponsorless again? Well, you just moved back up to being one of my favorite MLS teams! Not a fan of the black jersey, but it looks a lot better now.
      http://www.sjearthqu...
      Much better:
      http://www.sjearthqu...

  • Desmond Jones | June 27, 2012 at 3:25 pm |

    Duke indeed wore white helmets last year, but with a single blue stripe down the middle.

  • mike 2 | June 27, 2012 at 3:50 pm |

    The best instance I can think of a player wearing a uniform of another team – Mark Messier played for the Edmonton Oilers oldtimers team as part of the first outdoor game in 2003 while he was still active for the New York Rangers.

    http://i19.photobuck...

    • Mike Engle | June 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm |

      That’s a great example!

  • Steve D | June 27, 2012 at 4:53 pm |

    Here’s a guy wearing another player’s uniform. From the 1972 Mets Yearbook…likely taken at 1971 ASG.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • LarryB | June 27, 2012 at 4:54 pm |

    Yes the Iowa throwbacks were released a while ago.

    I do give Iowa credit. They at least do throwbacks. They try and get them accurate. Of course the early 20’s team did not have numbers on the front but they are fine.

  • Mickel | June 27, 2012 at 5:41 pm |

    Parent Requests Indian Mascot in Delaware Be Removed

    Read more:http://indiancountry... http://indiancountry...

  • Bernard | June 27, 2012 at 8:20 pm |

    WVU Senior wide receiver Ryan Nehlen (grandson of the celebrated former coach) discusses the Mountaineers’ new gray uniforms:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Bob Hope | June 28, 2012 at 3:33 pm |

    I was the director of public relations and promotions for the Braves and Ted Turner in 1976 when Ted bought the team. We had a philosophy that we needed to promote really hard since we knew the team wouldn’t be very good, but we also didn’t have any money to spend on promotions. So we had to do things that generated publicity. We would say, “It is better to go down the street at the village idiot and be noticed than to not be noticed at all.” We would do things that would stir what we called “harmless controversy”, would get in the news but didn’t really hurt anyone. For instance, one day we let it leak to the media that we were about to change the name of the Braves to Eagles because Ted was patriotic and also we didn’t want to offend native Americans. All hell broke loose in the media a couple of days and then we simply said it was a bad idea and would leave the team name as Braves. The idea of putting nicknames on the back was just to get attention, do something a little different. Messersmith had agreed to wear number 17 because the TV station was channel 17. That had nothing to do with the nickname idea, but then we realized that putting his nickname as CHANNEL would read CHANNEL 17. We knew baseball would step in and stop it, but we would get lots of publicity. The nickname BLUTO that replaced it was just to come up with something that seemed even dumber sounding than CHANNEL 17, not sure where it came from. As I recall, nicknames were my idea. CHANNEL was Ted’s, which seemed to make perfect sense to us at the time. Hope this helps.