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There's No Service Like Wire Service, Vol. 29

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Nearly 30 entries in, and the wire service gold mine shows no signs of being spent. Most of these come from the Sporting News archives and were submitted by Mike Hersh. Off we go:

• Who’s that in the Jacksonville Suns uni? It’s a young Tom Seaver (wearing a belt that looks like it’s left over from his junior high prom). Love the sleeve patch of the sun wearing sunglasses.

• Speaking of belts, look at the one this Cuban player is wearing. I like the oversized script and, of course, the thigh logo.

• And speaking of Cuban teams, here’s one of the greatest team uniforms ever to be worn on the island: the Santurce Cangrejeros (i.e., Crabbers).

• Man, that 1939 San Francisco Seals sleeve patch was really out of control. (Note, incidentally, that Robert Marshall re-created this uniform for one of his recent bobbleheads.)

• What’s going on here? According to the caption, it’s from a “Brooklyn vs. the World all-star game.”

• Love love love how the Phillies’ old chain-stitched uni numbers would shimmer with texture. Look at those loops!

• Anyone know why the Eau Claire Bears would have a rose as their chest logo?

• Why are all these Pueblo Dodgers holding rabbits? Turns out the team was running a rather unusual promotion. They don’t dream up ideas like that anymore, kids.

• Here’s National League umpire George Barr during a 1952 trip to Japan. According to Jeremy Brahm, his shirt says, “George Barr’s Umpire School, Tokyo.” Guess ol’ George was making the most of his trip overseas.

• Around 1950ish, ABC television and radio personalities in Los Angeles would get together for some friendly softball games (additional images here and here). Never seen that ABC logo before, and it doesn’t show up in Wikipedia’s entry on ABC’s logo history. (The entry does mention a logo “consisting of a map of the United States with the words ‘American Broadcasting Company’ superimposed but makes no mention of a map-based logo with just the letters “ABC.”)

• Looks like the original Devils logo was slightly different than the one they eventually settled on. And check out the placeholder prototypes they created for the occasion. C’mon, guys, was that really the best you could do?

• Here’s a rarity (submitted by Jerry Wolper): Dr. J. as an Atlanta Hawk. If you’re not familiar with Erving’s Hawks cameo, look here.

• Lots of noteworthy aspects to this Cubs shot. In fact, there’s so much going on in this seemingly unassuming photo that it deserves its own sub-list:

• The photo is dated 3/21/43 (exactly 21 years before a certain uniform columnist’s birth). But ’43 was the year the Cubs moved away from the vests, so they were wearing the previous year’s uniforms in spring training.

• In ’42, the vests had included the Hale America patch, but they apparently went to the trouble of removing the patches the following spring.

• The Cubs’ undersleeves had red stripes — and sometimes a white shoulder yoke — from 1940 through 1945. But look at the guy on the right — no stripes, and a white-outlined shoulder yoke. Never seen that before. (Of course, this could just be a case of Okkonen not being entirely accurate.)

• Is the lettering on that trunk totally boss or what?

• Two things about this 1945 shot of a Lockbourne Air Force Base Fliers player: (1) That is one killer uni, no? (2) Wouldn’t a throwback of this design be a much better military tribute than a stupid-ass camouflage jersey?

+ + + + +

Uni Watch News Ticker: Marcell Dareus posed with the old Bills jersey last night, even though he’ll never wear that design. Very odd that the Bills and the league chose to go this route, esp. since the new jersey was Madden-leaked earlier this week. … Meanwhile, Cam Newton was wearing an Under Armour lapel pin before the draft program started but it was gone when he came onstage after his selection. I wasn’t watching, but Raleigh McCool was: “As he made his way to the stage, an NFL guy handed him his Panthers hat, and then another guy stopped him and made him take off the pin.” … Houston football will wear throwbacks on Oct. 22 (with thanks to Corey Buck). … Ryan Connelly has posted a more detailed step-by-step documentation of his latest DIY project. … “My brothers and I recently played in an alumni football game,” writes Bill Vigna. “There were three Vigna boys — Bill (myself), Michael, and Mark — so we used initials on our NOBs. Since there were two names starting with M, my brother Michael (being the older of the two) had ‘M. Vigna,’ while Mark had ‘Ma. Vigna.'” … Nike is planning to give a makeover to Oregon State. Key quote from Tinker Hatfield: “From my conversations I see Oregon State as more classic and value-oriented [than Oregon].” Interesting choice of words — he’s basically admitting that the Oregon approach has been “value”-free, or maybe “values”-free. Either way, he said it, I didn’t (with thanks to Joe Alvernaz). … Sensational interactive Stanley Cup web site here (major thanks to Matt Brevet). … Mercer University is have a vote on its football helmet design (with thanks to Benjamin Braxton). … Get this: The Richmond Flying Squirrels — that’s the Giants’ double-A affiliate — are wearing Giants World Series patches! Seems like a bit of a reach, no? ” Not even the San Jose Giants, whose proximity, name-sharing, and other political importance to the Giants make them stand out, are wearing that patch,” says Kevin Cunningham. Anyone know of any other farm team that’s worn its parent club’s championship patch? … Also from Kevin: “On a separate note, the Flying Squirrels will play a ‘What If?’ night on July 22, when the team will have special uniforms branding themselves as the Richmond Rhinos, one of the other team names that were up for consideration when the team moved to Richmond.” … Tris Wykes just came across an old photo from his youth hockey days — that’s him at far right. “Look at that facemask,” he says. “Good heavens, it appears my parents thought I was going to be a crash-test dummy and not a youth hockey player.”

 

160 comments to There’s No Service Like Wire Service, Vol. 29

  • Fred | April 29, 2011 at 7:53 am |

    Brooklyn vs. the World, could it be to celebrate the World Fair in NYC in 1939?

    • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm |

      Or maybe it’s just the set-up to a new update of “Bill Swerkski’s Super Fans.”

      “Dem Bums voises da woyld, best a seven.”

      “Witta DH, or real baseball?”

      “Pitcha hits, a course.”

      “Dem Bums in two, then, cause Newcombe can hit, and watta da woyld got who can pitch an hit both.”

      “In two?”

      “Yeah, Dem Bums’r gonna win so big each one’s gonna count twice. We’re talkin hunnert-ten ta maybe tree. Best a seven, Dem Bums sweep in two.”

  • Ryan | April 29, 2011 at 7:59 am |

    I believe the Cangrejeros are from Puerto Rico, not Cuba.

    • Dane | April 29, 2011 at 8:51 am |

      And I still want to have that jersey. My-T tasty.

      • MN | April 29, 2011 at 12:35 pm |

        I got that jersey from EFF and it is awesome!

    • Lloyd Davis | April 29, 2011 at 8:54 am |

      Correct. Roberto Clemente played for them.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:08 am |

        Check out this book…
        http://search.barnes...

        Click on the cover to enlarge.
        Willie Mays and Clemente in the same outfield? Yup.
        Bob Thurman (2nd from right, too). Played for the Reds for a while.
        George Crowe (far right). Played for Braves, Reds and Cardinals. Played in ASG as a Red, as part of the famous “ballot-box-stuffing” incident.
        I should know the guy in the middle, and I’m just not getting it. Any help?

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:10 am |

          Say, hey, Crabber!
          http://1.bp.blogspot...

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:12 am |

          Guy in middle is Buster Clarkson…
          http://www.ucspr.com...

        • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 10:24 am |

          are clemente’s rups on backwards?

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:36 am |

          Looks like it, but probably not.

          Stirrups of that era often look like that. Something about the way the stirrup was cut, or the way the fabric stretched. No revelation that based on the knit, most such fabrics will stretch considerably farther in one direction than they will in the 90-degree opposite direction. A “with the grain, against the grain” sort of thing.

          And some stretched hardly at all, either way. Depended on the manufacturer, the fabric, the knit and the pattern.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:40 am |

          Simple description: On many, many players, front stirrup seemed to form a more rounded arch, but the back one would come more to a peak.

          As I said, something to do with knit or the cut, apparently.

    • Lloyd Davis | April 29, 2011 at 9:04 am |

      Question about that first photo, too: Any chance that player was with los Indios de Ciudad Juárez from northern Mexico?

      • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 9:54 am |

        I believe you are correct.

      • Broadway Connie | April 29, 2011 at 9:59 am |

        I believe you’re right. There’s no town of any size in Cuba named Juarez.

      • Dean Baker | April 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |

        Juarez is the border city next to El Paso, Texas.

        The Indios de Ciudad Juarez played in Arizona-Texas League (Class C) between 1947 and 1954. (The Indios won the League championship in 1952.) The team also was part of the 1958 Arizona-Mexico League (Class C). The club later joined the Mexican League (1976-1984) and reached the finals in 1979.

  • Chris M | April 29, 2011 at 8:05 am |

    “Very odd that the Bills and the league chose to go this route, esp. since the new jersey was Madden-leaked earlier this week.”

    They want to wait to officially unveil the new unis at a fan appreciation event. I’d bet a high percentage of people haven’t seen the Madden the screens, so it may have confused a lot of people.

    • Mark K | April 29, 2011 at 8:36 am |

      Since they’re keeping it, they should have used the throwback. But did we really expect them to not do something stupid?

      • The Jeff | April 29, 2011 at 9:10 am |

        Wait, why are they keeping the throwback when the new uniform is basically a throwback too? That’s just silly.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:00 am |

          Well, it IS the Bills, after all.
          Lately not exactly the most uni-savvy of teams.

  • brian | April 29, 2011 at 8:33 am |

    what’s up with the font on the falcons jersey?

    http://www.nfl.com/d...

  • walter | April 29, 2011 at 9:17 am |

    Don’t know if this subject has been addressed on this site, but has anyone ever complained about the lack of consistency from team to team within their trademarks? Like the Red Sox maintaining their nickname comes from their stirrups, whereas the White Sox say it represents their sanitaries? It reminds me of the time I wore a Chicago Cubs t-shirt bearing their circle emblem, and my sister asked me who the “Ubs” were. She could have been a Cincinnati fan; If she’d been a Cubs fan, she would have called the Cincy team the “Creds”. Bearing in mind the discussion yesterday about the Denver helmet, this is one of the issues that makes sports either “lousy” or “awesome”. Thoughts?

    • Chance Michaels | April 29, 2011 at 9:48 am |

      Do the White Sox really say that? Seems odd, since many players don’t wear sanis.

      I don’t think it really matters where the name originally comes from – the Cardinals weren’t named after the bird, but they’ve embraced it – so long as the name element appears somewhere.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 9:57 am |

        “Do the White Sox really say that?”

        Was gonna ask same thing. Don’t believe that’s ever been any kind of offical position. More a fan thing. Or a uni-geek thing.

        Another example of the unceasing for a backstory, even if we have to make it up.

        • walter | April 29, 2011 at 11:00 am |

          Geekery on my part.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 11:03 am |

          Wasn’t aimed at you, Walter.
          Such stories get started somewhere along the line and just take root.
          Like a stubborn weed you can’t get rid of.

          For example, I don’t imagine we’ll ever hear the end of “G for Greatness.”

    • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 11:06 am |

      whereas the White Sox say it represents their sanitaries?

      ~~~

      never heard that

      and the white sox originally wore, shockingly, white stirrups, which is more than likely where the name came from

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 11:18 am |

        OR…they wore white stirrups BECAUSE they chose the name White Sox.

        I know, radical concept, but still…

        • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 11:39 am |

          OR…they wore white stirrups BECAUSE they chose the name White Sox.

          Bingo. The White Sox chose the name first, the hosiery second. Like several team names at the time of the AL’s formation, the White Sox chose a name associated with prior teams in the city. In this case, the White Sox drew on an earlier popular nickname for the Cubs.

        • Chance Michaels | April 29, 2011 at 12:37 pm |

          But how did the Cubs come by that nickname?

        • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 12:57 pm |

          Presumably by having worn white stockings. The whole stockings-and-knickers thing predates stirrups as we’ve known them for the last century or so.

        • JimWa | April 29, 2011 at 5:20 pm |

          The Cubs came by the team nickname … can’t remember exactly, but I believe it was the late 1890s, when the team went through a youth movement, and (as was common in those days) the media started to refer to the way “these young cubs play …”. The name stuck. There were many previous names for the team, including the White Stockings!

      • walter | April 29, 2011 at 11:31 am |

        The sartorial weirdness the White Sox became notorious for was for trying to integrate “stylish” white socks into their wardrobe.

  • Broadway Connie | April 29, 2011 at 9:41 am |

    Not sure what I think about that diagonal blue sash running across the couldn’t-be-more-scarlet jacket worn by Prince William this morning. The crazy golden swirls around collar and cuffs, well, OK, maybe appropriately glitzy. Basically, it’s both a standard home kit and evocative throwback, and – what the hell – I kinda like it. No swoosh issues here. Better w/o the lid, though.

    [But how come the Irish Guards uni sports no green? Goddam Saxons.]

    Also admired the visitor kit of the now Duchess of Cambridge / Baroness of Carrickfergus, though that six-and-one-half-foot train might be considered just an ever so teeny tiny bit arriviste… Carrickfergus, by the way, is an undistinguished Ulster town whose name was borrowed for the title of a maudlin song in which a drunken torch-carrier laments that his lovely love lives across the water and sure, but you can’t expect a fellah to swim over the briny vast, so he’ll have to just stay attached to the lonely barstool. The best version is by the protean Van Morrison, backed by The Chieftains. Now there’s a lad.

    • Craig D | April 29, 2011 at 9:44 am |

      Have to wonder…when did the English stop speaking english? :-)

    • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 11:42 am |

      Had me wondering, should the heir to the British monarchy really be supporting USA soccer like that?

    • Cort | April 29, 2011 at 1:29 pm |

      This is the most entertaining post of the day.

      I figure that the blue sash was Willie’s way of showing support for Manchester City in their upcoming FA Cup final match against Stoke. C’mon Citeh! Up the Blues!

      • DanKing9 | April 29, 2011 at 2:10 pm |

        too bad he’s a confirmed Villa supporter :)

    • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 10:23 pm |

      Somewhat related – David Beckham wore his Order of the British Empire medal to the wedding…on the wrong side. Plus, according to someone on TV, medals were not the order of the day.

      • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 10:28 pm |

        Well, that was a royal cock-up…
        As I said, he wore it on the wrong side.

  • Kris H | April 29, 2011 at 9:49 am |

    Santurce jerseys available at Ebbets Field Flannels!

    http://www.ebbets.co...

  • Kevin | April 29, 2011 at 9:51 am |

    Some nice striped stirrups on some of the kids in these photos. It appears from the page frames they have a black with maroon stripes when they go black jerseys and maroon with black stripes when they wear maroon tops. Also looks like wherever they are playing they rock the old school astro turf and real grass outfield. There is also an interesting photo of a small helicopter hovering over to dry the outfield grass.

    http://www.owassobas...

  • Skott | April 29, 2011 at 9:53 am |

    For some reason, it really bothers me when the 1st overall pick in the Draft gets a NNOB jersey to hold up. If you have the first pick, you know who you’re going to take, put his name on the back. That should be the perk of going first overall. It seems to me that the entire world knew Cam Newton was going first, the Panthers could have thrown a nameplate on there.
    Or is it just me who’s bothered by it?

    • Ry Co 40 | April 29, 2011 at 10:17 am |

      i’m REALLY bothered by the fact that the teams are holding up the backs of the jerseys. as if the front doesn’t have a number. at least get your teams logo or wordmark in the picture

      • Ry Co 40 | April 29, 2011 at 10:32 am |

        well… i stand corrected. i literally saw 2 pics of draft day, and both players were holding up the backs of the jerseys. but after going through a gallery, it looks like the teams pretty much got it right

    • Ray Barrington | April 29, 2011 at 11:45 am |

      I guarantee the first time they try that, there will be a last-second trade of the pick.

      • Ry Co 40 | April 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm |

        i’ve seen in the past where teams that had their eye on a few high profile draft pics would have velcro nameplates already made up. not sure why they don’t do that naymore

        • Jerry | April 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm |

          Didn’t the Colts do it for Manning? The had a jersey ready for both Manning and Ryan Leaf. I remember Ryan Leaf talking about it on an interview with Dan Patrick, years ago. He said the strangest thing he has in his house is a #16 Colts jersey, with his name on it.

      • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 4:41 pm |

        So what if there is a last-minute trade? Team’ll be out, what, a couple of C-notes? Heck, quietly donate the thing to a local church thrift shop, and bam, tax writeoff.

        Besides, sports journalists routinely predict most of the first-round picks. Team execs presumably have an even better knowledge of who’s likely to go when, and who they’re targeting.

        Though I could see it being a slight security concern. You really wouldn’t want anyone to know you were firm enough on any pick that you made up a jersey. So you’d pretty much have to go the velcro nameplate route and make up a few spares and decoys just to be safe.

  • Mike N. | April 29, 2011 at 10:00 am |

    I didn’t think that the Giants were wearing jerseys with the red triangle on the collar. They gave one to Prince Amukamara, though…

    http://www.nydailyne...

    • Paul Lukas | April 29, 2011 at 10:20 am |

      That means they gave him a retail version, not an on-field version. Good catch.

  • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 10:01 am |

    Could “Oregon State as more classic and value-oriented [than Oregon]” be code-speak for “Nike has closer ties to Oregon, so Oregon State won’t be getting as many different uniform options from Nike”?

    The Seals bobblehead is beautiful. Very nice attention to detail.

  • Rob | April 29, 2011 at 10:03 am |

    Anyone else not surprised that the VP of design at Nike is named “Tinker,” since that’s basically what he does all day?

    I suppose having a name like “Crapalloveraschoolstraditionandcolorsinthenameofcorporatedouchebaggery Hatfield” would have been a stretch.

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:30 am |

      Nike often reminds me of a number of art directors/designers I’ve known. They think the way to get business is to walk into a company, tell them their logo is all wrong and start shoving new, “better and updated” concepts at them.

      The point? Don’t always assume that just because they’re your ideas they’re automatically better/an improvement over someone else’s.

      And NEVER dismiss the fact that the company may have a helluva lot of equity in their identity. something that they somehow managed to establish without your help.

      • Flip | April 29, 2011 at 12:37 pm |

        Amen.

  • Jet | April 29, 2011 at 10:13 am |

    In Tris Wykes’ childhood hockey photo, the kid in the center is wearing a Canadians road jersey UNDER his pads!!

    -Jet

  • Jet | April 29, 2011 at 10:14 am |

    Another magnificent day of wire service awesomeness. That Air Force baseball uniform… WOW.

    -Jet

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:20 am |

      re: Using such jerseys to honor the military…
      Ebbets Field Flannels offers a few WWI era service team jerseys.
      This is my favorite…
      http://www.ebbets.co...
      But this one ia a close second…
      http://www.ebbets.co...
      Here’s what comes up if you search “military” at EFF…
      http://www.ebbets.co...

      • Jet | April 29, 2011 at 10:40 am |

        Well I hope EFF gets to work on making that Lockbourn Air Force jersey because that one is off-the-charts magnificent…

        -Jet

        • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 12:08 pm |

          Yeah, but what are the colors?

          I’m thinking brown.

    • Ran | April 29, 2011 at 1:56 pm |

      The Boss had ties to Lockbourne AFB as well. (now Rickenbacker ANG Base)
      http://militarytimes...

  • Paul Lukas | April 29, 2011 at 10:22 am |

    If you’re in NYC and into boxing, here’s a cool-sounding No Mas event taking place tomorrow:
    http://www.facebook....

    • MPowers1634 | April 29, 2011 at 2:10 pm |

      Sounds cool…however my daughter and 20 of her 9 year old friends will be having a sleepover at the Powers house…on second thought, maybe I will try and sneak out!

      • Craig D | April 29, 2011 at 2:48 pm |

        Get out now man!!! While you can!

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 8:14 pm |

        At about 10 pm someone go over to Powers’ house wearing a “Scream” mask and peek in the windows.

        We’ll all listen to see if we can hear the reaction.

        • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 10:01 pm |

          i’ve tried that, but powers has that whole “restraining order/5000 ft. distance” thing going

  • Jeremy | April 29, 2011 at 10:50 am |

    Woah! Didn’t think I’d ever see any Eau Claire Bears pictures outside of my little town. Who is that player?

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:52 am |

      Billy Bruton.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 10:59 am |

        I suppose I should offer another photo…
        http://caimages.coll...

        • Jeff | April 29, 2011 at 12:21 pm |

          This probably is a spring training photo of the young Billy Bruton in the Braves’ camp. He’s wearing an Eau Claire Bears cap, as Paul notes, and most likely a Richmond Roses jersey. The Roses, from Richmond, Indiana, also were a Braves farm team from 1946 to 1948.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:30 pm |

          This is a HUGE image, btw…
          http://www.mearsonli...

          Colorization, anyone?
          Cap would be interesting, to be sure.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:34 pm |

          Certainly no white on the hat, so what color is what…besides the obvious navy crown and red visor?

          What’s the third color? Maroon? What? It’s a mystery to me.

          Can’t believe the crown was black with a navy and red patch. But, maybe…

          It’s a puzzler.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:35 pm |

          Nah, background on “EC” isn’t dark enough to be either navy or black.

          Royal blue? Man, that is a stumper.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:38 pm |

          From the look of this, the letters were white on a red disk.

          But in the Bruton photo there is now way those are white letters.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm |

          Forgot the link…
          http://www.eauclaire...

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:40 pm |

          Had the hat been washed, and fading red turned the letters pink?

        • Chance Michaels | April 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |

          The common perception of the Bears’ logo is white letters on a red circle against a navy crown.

          But this large photo of Hank Aaron looks like white letters on a navy crown, no red circle.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:56 pm |

          When enlarged can see there’s been some photoshop work done on that Aaron Eau Claire image.

          Still doesn’t explain the lack of white on Bruton’s hat, though. I imagine it’s fading. That, of course, would leave us with the notion of pink letters on a navy and red hat.

        • The Jeff | April 29, 2011 at 1:03 pm |

          I’m thinking red letters on a rather badly faded navy circle. So, basically a bluish gray.

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:07 pm |

          I certainly hope so.

        • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 2:05 pm |

          The EC certainly seems similar in tone to the head of the rose as well as the brim of the cap. Which presumably are both red, though different hues due to fabric differences and lighting. If the photo were just a little older, my first assumption would be that the photog altered the print and darkened up the EC. But here, I’d have to assume the EC is soiled and/or sweat-stained with the red from the underlying felt layer. Thus the EC would be, dare I say it, ever so slightly brown. Some pinkish from sweat, some tan/brown from dirt, making a kind of bruised-cerise hue.

          Also, I’ve encountered some white felt that goes sour amazingly quickly. It’s like the oil from one finger’s touch and a few hours in the sun and bam! it becomes an ugly dirty-parchment color. And not all white felt is even all that white to start with.

  • Rob S | April 29, 2011 at 10:58 am |

    Noticed a couple of issues with that Stanley Cup site. That it still shows the Buffaslug for the Sabres could be attributed to simply not updating since the conclusion of last year’s Finals… but claiming that the NHL started in 1927 is a decade off – 26-27 was the season the NHL took de facto possession of the Stanley Cup, due to the demise of the Western Hockey League (formerly the Western Canada Hockey League, which had merged with the Pacific Coast Hockey Association in 1924).

  • Patrick D | April 29, 2011 at 11:13 am |

    Loved the Stanley Cup site. By the way, he’s also put up an NBA and World Cup version for those interested:

    http://www.fansnap.c...

    http://robertivan.co...

    • Rob S | April 29, 2011 at 11:48 am |

      A couple of slight inaccuracies on the NBA one…

      – it shows the Seattle Supersonics without reflecting their move as the Oklahoma City Thunder
      – it shows the San Antonio Spurs as joining the NBA in 1976, but doesn’t show when it was founded, while it shows when both the Indiana Pacers and New Jersey Nets were founded (1967, with requisite name changes for the Nets), but doesn’t mention them joining the NBA in 1976.

      • Chance Michaels | April 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm |

        The Sonics thing might be because the name and history are waiting in Seattle (not quite like the Browns, but similar).

  • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 11:15 am |

    Haven’t done this for a while, and it IS Friday, and there WAS a big wedding today, so…

    ALL-ROYALTY TEAM.

    I’ll start with a couple slam dunks…

    Duke Snider
    Prince Fielder

    Take it away, gang.

    • Ry Co 40 | April 29, 2011 at 11:24 am |

      tayshaun prince

    • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 11:27 am |
    • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 11:31 am |

      Mel Queen.
      http://1.bp.blogspot...(f).jpg

    • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • Rob S | April 29, 2011 at 11:42 am |
    • Ray Barrington | April 29, 2011 at 11:48 am |

      Broadcaster: Bob Prince (whose sidekick for many years was Nellie King)

    • Rob S | April 29, 2011 at 11:50 am |

      Oh, and if Duke Snyder counts, then so does King Clancy.

    • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 12:01 pm |
      • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 10:14 pm |

        …and given the game he pitched tonight, how can we forget Jason Marquis?

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:01 pm |

      Nicknames count, absolutely.
      Always do on these “Friday” teams.

      • Broadway Connie | April 29, 2011 at 12:35 pm |

        Earl Weaver.
        Don King.
        Johnny Counts.
        Baron Hilton.

        • Broadway Connie | April 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm |

          Rey Ordoñez.
          Orlando “El Duque” Hernandez.
          Patrick Roy.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Bernard | April 29, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
      • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 1:20 pm |

        …and his teammate, Mark Koenig.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 1:27 pm |

      From sports not played with balls:

      Duke Kahanamoku
      Prince Bira (his title, he was Prince Birabongse Bhanudej Bhanubandh)
      Count Fleet (not human)

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:34 pm |

        Bold Ruler (also not human)

    • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 1:33 pm |

      prince amukamara

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:35 pm |

        Chief Bender count?

        • Cort | April 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |

          Pongo Joe Cantillon, the “Italian nobleman who fled to America to escape an idle life of social ease” according to sportswriter Charley Dryden (Cantillon was actually an Irishman from Kentucky, but nobody cared).

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm |

        The Iron Sheik?

    • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 1:52 pm |

      well, if nicknames count…

      all y’all are forgetting the obvious

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 2:04 pm |

        we’re TRYING to.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm |

        I did Snider a disservice, especially on a day a gentrified as today.

        Should have used his proper title…

        The Duke of Flatbush.

      • Mike Hersh | April 29, 2011 at 3:35 pm |

        Eddie “The King” Feigner – softball

        Duke Kahanamoku – surfing

        Don King – boxing promoter

    • Jim Vilk | April 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
    • Taylor | April 29, 2011 at 6:21 pm |

      King Rice – UNC guard, 1980s

      Cozell McQueen – NC State forward, 1980s

      Stacey King – Oklahoma forward, 1980s

      God Shammgod – ok, maybe that isn’t, but it’s a great name!

    • StLMarty | April 30, 2011 at 12:07 am |
  • Chris in Nashville | April 29, 2011 at 11:26 am |

    Alright guys, I need some help. With the Titans taking Jake Locker he will probably be wearing #10. I have a #10 Vince Young jersey. How hard is it to replace the nameplate on the back of the jersey with “LOCKER” instead of “YOUNG”?

  • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 11:58 am |

    Two things about this 1945 shot of a Lockbourne Air Force Base Fliers player: (1) That is one killer uni, no? (2) Wouldn’t a throwback of this design be a much better military tribute than a stupid-ass camouflage jersey?

    Yes, and yes.

    My two basic rules about this sort of thing are, (1) Don’t play dress-up as a soldier if you’re not one; and (2) Obey the U.S. Flag Code’s standards for respecting Old Glory. Anything else, I’m all for it. I totally dig out on patriotic tributes and whatnot, and my ideal Fourth of July is at a ballpark. Just don’t play dress-up as a soldier, and don’t put a flag patch where it could be soiled during the game. Throwback, or even fauxback, unis to the local military installation’s wartime ball team are perfect, especially since everywhere has a local military installation if you look hard enough, and back in the day they all had ball teams.

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:05 pm |

      Know what else? It would show the team actually but some time, thought and effort into it.

      “We need a tribute? Okay, order a set of camo jerseys and be done with it. Moving on…”

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:11 pm |

      Especially for Memorial Day. By defintion, that holiday is NOT about honoring personnel serving now. It’s about remembering those who “gave their last full measure.”

      I’m guessing even those currently serving would agree on that one.

      • Broadway Connie | April 29, 2011 at 12:51 pm |

        Non-normative questions.

        On that Lockbourne AFB uniform, the name on the chest seems to be enclosed in an oval. As a design element, isn’t that rather unusual? Could it be that the oval is actually the middle section of an outline of a bomb, the tip and rear of which are obscured in the photo? Jes’ wonderin’…

        • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:03 pm |

          Could be. With the double shoulder patches it’s a pretty “lavish” design.
          Or (and this was my first thought)…
          it could be big patch of opaque fabric to cover older lettering, a re-purposed uni.

    • Cort | April 29, 2011 at 1:37 pm |

      I don’t think “patriot soldier” when I see camo. I think “fat guy who buys all his clothes at Bass Pro Shop.” So yes, using the military uniforms would be an ENORMOUS improvement.

      I’d suggest that teams design alternate uniforms based on iconic, non-camo elements of our Armed Services uniforms, but just saying it make me see Michael Jackson in spangled epaulets, so that’s probably a bad idea.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:41 pm |

        “but just saying it make me see Michael Jackson in spangled epaulets”

        Or the Naval Academy’s “band uniform” football unis?

        • Cort | April 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |

          Exactly.

    • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 2:11 pm |

      Throwback, or even fauxback, unis to the local military installation’s wartime ball team are perfect, especially since everywhere has a local military installation if you look hard enough, and back in the day they all had ball teams.

      I can buy into that. It could also be something as simple as a sleeve patch to honor a current or former unit local to that team, along the lines of what’s been done at the Army-Navy football game. A New York team, for example, could wear a 77th Infantry patch; a Washington team, the 3rd Infantry’s Old Guard and so on.

      • RS Rogers | April 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm |

        Absolutely, particularly where there’s a connection to the unit in question.

        Personally, this 1944 San Francisco Seals gets it exactly right. You don’t get more patriotic than that stars-and-stripes shield patch, and you don’t get more support-the-troops than that V-for-victory patch. Anything much more than that will always strike me as more about “look at me” than honoring anyone or anything else.

        • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 2:56 pm |

          The ’44 Seals jersey also goes red/white/blue where the Seals had been navy/orange.

    • Craig D | April 29, 2011 at 3:27 pm |

      So a lot of us Uni Watchers know that these old military athletic unis would be a far sight better than camo for today’s “honoring the military” dealios. How do we communicate that to the people that are in charge of these. We really only need one high profile team to make it work. Then everyone would suddenly see that there is a better way to pay tribute to those who are/have served. Can we get this started in San Diego? How do we do this? Mass e-mail/fax campaign?

      I get the feeling that we’re all preaching to each other when we have no way to do anything about it. We need to get the message OUT THERE (points outside the gates of the Uni Watch compound).

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 8:20 pm |

        I posted that “Surf Riders” uni specifically with the Padres in mind.

        Although wouldn’t be bad for the Nationals or Orioles. I imagine the Coast Guard is highly involved along the Potomac and in Chesapeake Bay.

        • teenchy | April 29, 2011 at 10:30 pm |

          The O’s might honor Coast Guard Yard Curtis Bay, while the Nats could do so for the Navy or Marine Corps Band, or – no TV show reference intended – the NCIS.

  • Dave Johnson | April 29, 2011 at 12:08 pm |

    How many times recently have teams worn a championship patch on their uniform honoring their previous year? Seeing the Giants do it is a first for me.

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 12:18 pm |

      What are we to do?
      We live in an era that’s simply wet for patches.

      In a couple more years I imagine we’ll see “thumb in a portable cooler” patch honoring a groundskeeping accident that required digit reattachment.

    • walter | April 29, 2011 at 12:59 pm |

      Phillies in 1981? I think it was stitched on Dallas Green’s windbreaker, at least.

  • Kurt Baker | April 29, 2011 at 12:38 pm |

    Concerning the Tom Seaver Jacksonville Suns photo, take a look at today’s Hagerstown Suns logo. http://web.minorleag...
    They’ve modernized the sunglasses, but otherwise…….

  • Ryan Kluever | April 29, 2011 at 1:25 pm |

    I was at that Richmond Fighting Squirrels game that is pictured. They wore the patches for one night against the Trenton Thunder because the World Series Trophy was on site to get your picture with. Furthermore, the song “Going to San Francisco” played all night and culminated in fireworks for the championship. The patch is not the most uni-notable part of the night. It appears that the fighting squirrels have changed from the traditional Giants ‘rups of 3 thin stripes to now thin, big, thin design. My camera phone was on the fritz but aall players who were ruppin’ it, had the new design while the batboys still had the traditional look from last season.

    • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 1:39 pm |

      the song “Going to San Francisco” played all night

      ~~~

      i imagine that wouldn’t get annoying rather quickly

      /poor scott mckenzie

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 1:43 pm |

        Well, yeah, because that’s, like, the only song ever written about San Francisco.

      • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |

        Emotional singing of another possible choice here…
        http://www.youtube.c...

        • StLMarty | April 30, 2011 at 12:12 am |

          I think it’s Mr. Peanut that sells it.

  • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 2:00 pm |

    “..the Flying Squirrels will play a ‘What If?’ night..”

    Cool.

    For the Boston Red Sleevz, may I suggest, “Whaf If..
    We All Dressed Like the Team Name was ‘Red SOX’?”

    Same for Chicago Black Jerseys, but with, y’know, “White Sox.”

    • Ricko | April 29, 2011 at 2:03 pm |

      for Arizona State…

      “What if we dressed like football players and not Cirque du Soleil dancers?”

  • Original Jim | April 29, 2011 at 2:08 pm |

    So does Nike always have Powers Mfg make its uniforms, or does it change to other companies based on the school?

  • Tim E. O'B | April 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |

    So, the Illinois Lottery came out with a new commercial recently that features a man in a protective suit. Today, I noticed that the man’s gloves seemed to be gray hockey gloves. From this screen grab, it appears that the gloves are Bauer brand – something along the lines of these.

  • Kyle Allebach | April 29, 2011 at 3:03 pm |

    The Cardinals gave out an ugly-ass black hat, along with the Redskins. Here’s the Cards and here is the Skins. I know it isn’t that visible in the pic for the Skins, but it was black on the TV last night. Poor choice for hat colors, guys.

    • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 4:11 pm |

      were you meaning to include a link there?

  • Ted B. | April 29, 2011 at 3:59 pm |

    While the Jacksonville Suns have updated their logo:
    http://jacksonville....

    The Hagerstown Suns, where Bryce Harper is currently playing may have just stolen the logo for their use:
    http://hagerstown.su...

    That is a sweet logo though!

  • Felipe | April 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm |

    Bills also had a jersey made for Dareus with his new number and put it up for sale: http://nflbills.file...

  • JimWa | April 29, 2011 at 5:24 pm |

    58? Seriously? I was expecting in the 40-45 range, tops. Well preserved, my friend.

  • Benjamin | April 29, 2011 at 6:22 pm |

    Andy Dalton from TCU just got taken by the Cincinnati Bengals. At least we know that he can play in an ugly uniform!

  • moose | April 29, 2011 at 8:22 pm |

    grilling chops, drinkin’ beer, and it’s a beautiful night. of course i am dressed proper, and groovin’.

    • LI Phil | April 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm |

      ok, now you’re scaring me

    • StLMarty | April 30, 2011 at 12:15 am |

      sexy

  • Gpotiger | April 29, 2011 at 11:45 pm |

    http://twitpic.com/4...
    Auburn baseball will be wearing this sticker on the back of the helmets in support of the tornado victims

  • Alec | May 1, 2011 at 12:37 pm |

    Re: NJ Devils logo

    Those photos are from the presser when they announced the move from Colorado, John McMullen’s wife came up with the logo idea(which was obviously fleshed out later) and the unfortunate colors of Red/Green. She was insistent on it.