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There’s Still a Ballpark Right Here — Just Barely

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Paul here, giving Phil a well-earned Saturday break. Thought I’d take the opportunity to tell you about an interesting excursion I’ll be taking this afternoon.

Every year the National Trust for Historic Preservation issues its list of America’s 11 Most Endangered Historic Places. As I mentioned a few weeks ago in the Ticker, this year’s list, which was released last month, includes a site that should be of interest to all of us: Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, New Jersey, one of the three remaining Negro Leagues ballparks.

Ironically, I’ve been making regular trips to Paterson for nearly a decade now (it’s where I like to go bowling, plus it’s smack in the middle of the New Jersey beefsteak scene), but I’m ashamed to say that I didn’t know about Hinchliffe until it showed up on the endangered places list. It’s pretty much been overtaken by weeds and vandals, as you can see in these photos, but it has a proud history that goes beyond the Negro Leagues. Football, Golden Gloves boxing, track and field — Hinchliffe has hosted all of these and more.

Since landing on the endangered list last month, Hinchliffe has been the subject of several articles. The New York Times published one while I was on vacation, and longtime Uni Watch contributor Dan Cichalski wrote one for MLB.com. I’ll be adding my own take on the situation for ESPN.com, which is why I’m planning to check out Hinchliffe for myself this afternoon. Brian LoPinto, who was born in Paterson and heads a local preservation group that’s been trying to save the ballpark, will be giving me a personal tour. Should be an interesting visit. Details to follow soon.

That’s it for me today, but feel free to talk amongst yourselves. Phil will be back with his usual smorgasbord tomorrow.

 

56 comments to There’s Still a Ballpark Right Here — Just Barely

  • Mike McGann | June 5, 2010 at 8:37 am |

    I can remember covering football games there for the Evening News of Paterson. It was kind pretty run down back in the 1980s and had Astroturf. Hopefully, it doesn’t met the same fate as Roosevelt Stadium — well, both of them, the old ballpark in Jersey City torn down in the 1980s, as well as the more recently departed one in Union City, which was a WPA gem. I spent time in both back in the 80s when I wrote for the Hudson Dispatch.

  • Ricardo Leonor | June 5, 2010 at 9:28 am |

    They will all be lost to time. As a kid I attended a few games at the Jersey City Roosevelt Stadium many times. Then growing up in Union City, “the other” Roosevelt was my home stadium. It was used by both High Schools for baseball, soccer, football and track. Sometimes there would be 4 practices on the same field!! It was also where we had our high school graduations. The sight of the great Turkey Game Rivalries. Those 2 stadiums are gone forever, they only remain in our memories….

    Hinchfliffe Stadium, however brings back different memories. It was the sight of our 2 most painful losses during my time in school!! So yes tear it down!! Just Kidding! I think it should be saved. By the time we played there it was already Astroturf. Our Roosevelt was still grass ( or more like mud and gravel from so much use ) but would also eventually go astroturf. On the old Roosevelt Stadium site, Union City how has this super modern high school with a stadium on the roof. Looks great, but it isnt ours……

    I know the economic situation in Paterson isn’t the best. I hope they can save it, I doubt that they will.

  • scott | June 5, 2010 at 10:24 am |

    Is it Hinchliffe or Hinchcliffe? The sign says the former, the article the latter. Either way, a stadium well worth preserving.

  • Paul Lukas | June 5, 2010 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”393072″]Is it Hinchliffe or Hinchcliffe? The sign says the former, the article the latter. Either way, a stadium well worth preserving.[/quote]

    Me = idiot. Thanks for that catch. Now fixed.

  • JosephSkiba | June 5, 2010 at 11:12 am |

    Great, great article Paul! I played football at Bergen Catholic. I remember playing there in high school, Eastside and Kennedy used to share the field for their home games. At the time I thought it was the coolest place to play. I remember going underneath to the locker rooms and hearing the fans stomp their feet…the heat coming off that artificial turf, it’s a shame what happened it.

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 12:17 pm |

    From todayinbaseballhistory.com…

    June 6, 1941 – The Giants use plastic batting helmets for the first time against the Pirates but lose a doubleheader to the Bucs 5-4 and 4-3.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    Also this…

    June 6, 1944 – All major-league games are canceled as the country’s focus is turned toward Europe while allied forces invade occupied France.

    (That would be D-Day for those clueless or uncaring about history; think opening scenes of “Saving Private Ryan”).

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 12:21 pm |

    Realize today is the 5th, just thought those were worth noting about this weekend, seeing as today’s lead is about historic ballparks.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 12:30 pm |

    June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 12:31 pm |

    A lesson in looking at old photos.
    We all know those stirrups are royal, but they sure don’t look it, do they.
    http://farm5.static....

  • Mike M | June 5, 2010 at 12:43 pm |

    For more pictures on Hinchliffe Stadium, check out
    Digital Ballparks

    http://www.digitalba...

  • Bernard | June 5, 2010 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”393075″]From todayinbaseballhistory.com…

    June 6, 1941 – The Giants use plastic batting helmets for the first time against the Pirates but lose a doubleheader to the Bucs 5-4 and 4-3.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Fast forward to today, and who are the Bucs playing this weekend (weather permitting)? Yep, the Giants.

  • Neil C. | June 5, 2010 at 12:56 pm |

    Besides Patterson’s Hinchliffe Stadium and Birmingham’s Rickwood Field what’s the third remaining Negro League stadium? Is it Joe Engel Stadium in Chattanooga?

  • JimV19 | June 5, 2010 at 1:00 pm |

    Unfortunately, the NY Times writer might be correct about it being harder to preserve Hinchliffe in this recession than it was to build it during the Depression. Obviously, if there are gangs and vagrants, then Paterson has more pressing issues than just a great old stadium.

    Don’t know the logistics, so I throw this question out there: would it be better to destroy it and start over? I know a new Hinchliffe would just be a fauxback, but depending on the costs and the overall big picture…anyway, that’s why I’m asking.

    Speaking of Paterson, if I’m ever there, I HAVE to go to that bowling alley!
    Pierogi
    http://citypaper.net...
    Fries ‘n gravy
    http://citypaper.net...
    AND cute Polish girls? (What Polish girl isn’t cute, by the way?)
    As Vinny Barbarino once said, “This, this is my place, and these, these are my people.”

  • JimV19 | June 5, 2010 at 1:15 pm |

    For Marc, who was lamenting the lack of championships in recent Cleveland history, a 14-year-old girl from nearby North Royalton is the winner of this year’s National Spelling Bee.
    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Apparently, TV commercials and other constraints are even affecting the world of competitive spelling. Time for sponsored shirts to allow for an uninterrupted bee? ;)

  • Scott Z | June 5, 2010 at 1:35 pm |

    Paul,
    The stadium is only 10 minutes from Rutt’s Hut in Clifton. Go get a ripper.
    SZ

  • AJ | June 5, 2010 at 1:45 pm |

    Paul:
    In response to your Page 2 note on ESPN regarding Eye Black: Check the Florida Womens Softball team today (ESPN2). Some interesting stuff there.

  • Miles | June 5, 2010 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”393082″]Besides Patterson’s Hinchliffe Stadium and Birmingham’s Rickwood Field what’s the third remaining Negro League stadium? Is it Joe Engel Stadium in Chattanooga?[/quote]

    Municipal Stadium in Hagerstown?

  • scott | June 5, 2010 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”393082″]Besides Patterson’s Hinchliffe Stadium and Birmingham’s Rickwood Field what’s the third remaining Negro League stadium? Is it Joe Engel Stadium in Chattanooga?[/quote]

    From Ballpark Digest’s write-up of Rickwood Field:

    “the notion that there are only three existing ballparks once hosting Negro Leagues baseball is a load of hooey. We can name several off the cuff: Phil Welch Stadium in St. Joseph, Mo.; Jack Brown Stadium in Jamestown, N.D.; Cardines Field in Newport, R.I.; Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, N.J.; Engel Stadium in Chattanooga; Point Stadium in Johnstown, Penn.; Durkee Field in Jacksonville; Municipal Stadium in Hagerstown, Md.; McCormick Field in Asheville, N.C.; and, of course, Rickwood Field. We’re guessing there’s lots more.”

    Of course, Hagerstown and Asheville’s parks have both been rebuilt since 1980, and calling them Negro League stadiums is sort of like saying the New York Yankees still play in original Yankee Stadium.

  • Gusto44 | June 5, 2010 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”393078″]June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Were the A’s one of the first teams to have separate home and road hats? Also, when did the A’s wear pinstripe hats? It’s not listed on the Dressed to the Nines website.

  • El Lobo | June 5, 2010 at 3:00 pm |

    No links or screengrabs, but it appears that Dartmouth baseball has the Detroit Tiger “D” thing going on. Their hats have the same old english D (all cornered edges) as the Tigers, but their helmet stickers have the rounded edge D, similar to what Detroit has on their home jerseys.

    On another note, that Wittels kid just keeps hitting, but it looks like the 56 game hitting streak will carry over to next season with a loss today. Not sure if anyone has posted already on his stirrups, but he’s got kind of a ’70s thing going, with them pulled high but still showing solid color.

  • James Hayden | June 5, 2010 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”393088″][quote comment=”393082″]Besides Patterson’s Hinchliffe Stadium and Birmingham’s Rickwood Field what’s the third remaining Negro League stadium? Is it Joe Engel Stadium in Chattanooga?[/quote]

    From Ballpark Digest’s write-up of Rickwood Field:

    “the notion that there are only three existing ballparks once hosting Negro Leagues baseball is a load of hooey. We can name several off the cuff: Phil Welch Stadium in St. Joseph, Mo.; Jack Brown Stadium in Jamestown, N.D.; Cardines Field in Newport, R.I.; Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, N.J.; Engel Stadium in Chattanooga; Point Stadium in Johnstown, Penn.; Durkee Field in Jacksonville; Municipal Stadium in Hagerstown, Md.; McCormick Field in Asheville, N.C.; and, of course, Rickwood Field. We’re guessing there’s lots more.”

    Of course, Hagerstown and Asheville’s parks have both been rebuilt since 1980, and calling them Negro League stadiums is sort of like saying the New York Yankees still play in original Yankee Stadium.[/quote]

    Well, I’d consider Hagerstown’s re-builds more on the genre of a bit of modern seating, and a few upgrades (and capacity expansions, then contractions – Hub City made it up to AA/Eastern League in the 80’s before having to step down to A/SAL after the O’s moved their AA affiliate to Bowie) – trust me, the original restrooms are pretty much 1930’s vintage.

  • Neil C. | June 5, 2010 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”393088″][quote comment=”393082″]Besides Patterson’s Hinchliffe Stadium and Birmingham’s Rickwood Field what’s the third remaining Negro League stadium? Is it Joe Engel Stadium in Chattanooga?[/quote]

    From Ballpark Digest’s write-up of Rickwood Field:

    “the notion that there are only three existing ballparks once hosting Negro Leagues baseball is a load of hooey. We can name several off the cuff: Phil Welch Stadium in St. Joseph, Mo.; Jack Brown Stadium in Jamestown, N.D.; Cardines Field in Newport, R.I.; Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, N.J.; Engel Stadium in Chattanooga; Point Stadium in Johnstown, Penn.; Durkee Field in Jacksonville; Municipal Stadium in Hagerstown, Md.; McCormick Field in Asheville, N.C.; and, of course, Rickwood Field. We’re guessing there’s lots more.”

    Of course, Hagerstown and Asheville’s parks have both been rebuilt since 1980, and calling them Negro League stadiums is sort of like saying the New York Yankees still play in original Yankee Stadium.[/quote]

    I kept reading “one of the three remaining Negro Leagues ballparks,” in various articles regarding Hinchliffe and it didn’t seem right. I was unsure what criteria was used because I believed Ray Winder Field in Little Rock regularly hosted Negro League games too. Glad to know there really are more than three left. In any case, I hope old ball parks across the country are saved. As a nation we’ve lost too much history in the name of progress.

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”393089″][quote comment=”393078″]June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Were the A’s one of the first teams to have separate home and road hats? Also, when did the A’s wear pinstripe hats? It’s not listed on the Dressed to the Nines website.[/quote]

    If they did have pinstriped hats, it must have been very early in the 20th century. I don’t recall seeing any such hats (without getting off my butt to double check Okkonen’s book).

    White Sox had different home and road hats in the Black Sox era. White with pinstripes at home, gray with pinstripes on the road (again, would have to check Okkonen for others).

    —Ricko

  • Max V.V. | June 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm |

    I’m from just outside of Paterson, and Hinchcliffe is an absolute gem. I was so proud to see the Doby family come out to celebrate its new historic status. What a beautiful facility, even today.

  • JTH | June 5, 2010 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”393093″][quote comment=”393089″][quote comment=”393078″]June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Were the A’s one of the first teams to have separate home and road hats? Also, when did the A’s wear pinstripe hats? It’s not listed on the Dressed to the Nines website.[/quote]

    If they did have pinstriped hats, it must have been very early in the 20th century. I don’t recall seeing any such hats (without getting off my butt to double check Okkonen’s book).

    White Sox had different home and road hats in the Black Sox era. White with pinstripes at home, gray with pinstripes on the road (again, would have to check Okkonen for others).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    A’s pinstriped lids are actually shown on DTT9s.

    Looks like separate caps for home and road was commonplace around the turn of the last century.

    Also, wasn’t there some discussion the other day about the Phillies never having jerseys with the city name on them? There they are with the (abbreviated) city name on their jerseys.

  • LI Phil | June 5, 2010 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”393095″][quote comment=”393093″][quote comment=”393089″][quote comment=”393078″]June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Were the A’s one of the first teams to have separate home and road hats? Also, when did the A’s wear pinstripe hats? It’s not listed on the Dressed to the Nines website.[/quote]

    If they did have pinstriped hats, it must have been very early in the 20th century. I don’t recall seeing any such hats (without getting off my butt to double check Okkonen’s book).

    White Sox had different home and road hats in the Black Sox era. White with pinstripes at home, gray with pinstripes on the road (again, would have to check Okkonen for others).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    A’s pinstriped lids are actually shown on DTT9s.

    Looks like separate caps for home and road was commonplace around the turn of the last century.

    Also, wasn’t there some discussion the other day about the Phillies never having jerseys with the city name on them? There they are with the (abbreviated) city name on their jerseys.[/quote]

    there was, of course, the never worn 1992 prototype (from bill henderson)

    while it’s not the most aesthetically pleasing wordmark, there have been plenty worse that saw the field of play

  • traxel | June 5, 2010 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”393088″][quote comment=”393082″]Besides Patterson’s Hinchliffe Stadium and Birmingham’s Rickwood Field what’s the third remaining Negro League stadium? Is it Joe Engel Stadium in Chattanooga?[/quote]

    From Ballpark Digest’s write-up of Rickwood Field:

    “the notion that there are only three existing ballparks once hosting Negro Leagues baseball is a load of hooey. We can name several off the cuff: Phil Welch Stadium in St. Joseph, Mo.; Jack Brown Stadium in Jamestown, N.D.; Cardines Field in Newport, R.I.; Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, N.J.; Engel Stadium in Chattanooga; Point Stadium in Johnstown, Penn.; Durkee Field in Jacksonville; Municipal Stadium in Hagerstown, Md.; McCormick Field in Asheville, N.C.; and, of course, Rickwood Field. We’re guessing there’s lots more.”

    Of course, Hagerstown and Asheville’s parks have both been rebuilt since 1980, and calling them Negro League stadiums is sort of like saying the New York Yankees still play in original Yankee Stadium.[/quote]
    I’ve been to a number of these stadiums including Phil Welch in St.Joe and the one in Asheville NC! My first pro baseball game was in 78 or 79 at Engle Stadium, saw Joe Charbaneau and the Lookouts play. At the end of the game they had a “Chicken Chase”. They released a bunch of chickens on the field and fans had to run around and catch them. By the end they were all trampled to death. People were picking them up and pretending they were alive to claim a prize. It was after midnight as the game went to extra innings and I must say a great first game for a 10 year old.

  • Gusto44 | June 5, 2010 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”393096″][quote comment=”393095″][quote comment=”393093″][quote comment=”393089″][quote comment=”393078″]June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Were the A’s one of the first teams to have separate home and road hats? Also, when did the A’s wear pinstripe hats? It’s not listed on the Dressed to the Nines website.[/quote]

    If they did have pinstriped hats, it must have been very early in the 20th century. I don’t recall seeing any such hats (without getting off my butt to double check Okkonen’s book).

    White Sox had different home and road hats in the Black Sox era. White with pinstripes at home, gray with pinstripes on the road (again, would have to check Okkonen for others).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    A’s pinstriped lids are actually shown on DTT9s.

    Looks like separate caps for home and road was commonplace around the turn of the last century.

    Also, wasn’t there some discussion the other day about the Phillies never having jerseys with the city name on them? There they are with the (abbreviated) city name on their jerseys.[/quote]

    there was, of course, the never worn 1992 prototype (from bill henderson)

    while it’s not the most aesthetically pleasing wordmark, there have been plenty worse that saw the field of play[/quote]

    Thanks, that Phillies prototype looks good enough to be worn. Having the two stars in the name Philadelphia, balances perfectly with the usual Phillies jersey.

    Regarding the old Philadelphia A’s pinstripe hat, I was referring to horizontal stripes, like the Pirates adopted in 1976. Once saw a 1911 b&w photo of the A’s Chief Bender, and he was wearing a white hat with what I presume to be blue pinstripes.

  • mike 2 | June 5, 2010 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”393098″]
    Regarding the old Philadelphia A’s pinstripe hat, I was referring to horizontal stripes, like the Pirates adopted in 1976. Once saw a 1911 b&w photo of the A’s Chief Bender, and he was wearing a white hat with what I presume to be blue pinstripes.[/quote]

    http://exhibits.base...

    (hope the link works, its the photo linked to the 1909 Philadelphia A’s DTTN entry)

  • Gusto44 | June 5, 2010 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”393099″][quote comment=”393098″]
    Regarding the old Philadelphia A’s pinstripe hat, I was referring to horizontal stripes, like the Pirates adopted in 1976. Once saw a 1911 b&w photo of the A’s Chief Bender, and he was wearing a white hat with what I presume to be blue pinstripes.[/quote]

    http://exhibits.base...

    (hope the link works, its the photo linked to the 1909 Philadelphia A’s DTTN entry)[/quote]

    Thanks, I didn’t see that type of hat pictured in the DTTN uniform database section. Thinking more about the Phillies, I always liked the Liberty Bell logo on their sleeves on the circa 1976 uniforms. If I were redesigning the Phillies uniforms, I would move replace the numbers on the sleeve with the Liberty Bell permanently. Next, utilize the sharp “Philadelphia” font for the road uniforms as was discussed before.

  • LI Phil | June 5, 2010 at 5:51 pm |

    here’s a chief bender i had colorized a little while ago…

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”393098″][quote comment=”393096″][quote comment=”393095″][quote comment=”393093″][quote comment=”393089″][quote comment=”393078″]June 5, 1916…
    Eddie Joost’s birthday.
    http://farm5.static....

    Always liked those Philadelphia A’s unis. See, you CAN do a good looking uni in only royal and white (well, here with road gray, of course).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Were the A’s one of the first teams to have separate home and road hats? Also, when did the A’s wear pinstripe hats? It’s not listed on the Dressed to the Nines website.[/quote]

    If they did have pinstriped hats, it must have been very early in the 20th century. I don’t recall seeing any such hats (without getting off my butt to double check Okkonen’s book).

    White Sox had different home and road hats in the Black Sox era. White with pinstripes at home, gray with pinstripes on the road (again, would have to check Okkonen for others).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    A’s pinstriped lids are actually shown on DTT9s.

    Looks like separate caps for home and road was commonplace around the turn of the last century.

    Also, wasn’t there some discussion the other day about the Phillies never having jerseys with the city name on them? There they are with the (abbreviated) city name on their jerseys.[/quote]

    there was, of course, the never worn 1992 prototype (from bill henderson)

    while it’s not the most aesthetically pleasing wordmark, there have been plenty worse that saw the field of play[/quote]

    Thanks, that Phillies prototype looks good enough to be worn. Having the two stars in the name Philadelphia, balances perfectly with the usual Phillies jersey.

    Regarding the old Philadelphia A’s pinstripe hat, I was referring to horizontal stripes, like the Pirates adopted in 1976. Once saw a 1911 b&w photo of the A’s Chief Bender, and he was wearing a white hat with what I presume to be blue pinstripes.[/quote]

    Ah, sorry. My bad. Misunderstood about the stripes.
    Thanks for finding that “PHILA.”
    When the discussion came up this week I was thinking they’d had that at least once, and then forgot to check on it.

    Remember the episode of M*A*S*H when Trapper John hollers from off-screen, “Hawkeye, want to see the pinstriped suit to end all pinstriped suits?” Then walks into the shot (accompanied by a very proud Korean tailor) wearing a gray pinstriped suit, but the stripes were horizontal? Similar misunderstanding, I guess. (Alan Alda cracks up so bad you have to wonder if they surprised him with it).

    —Ricko

  • Gusto44 | June 5, 2010 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”393101″]here’s a chief bender i had colorized a little while ago…[/quote]

    Thanks, it also appears there’s at least one vertical line at the top of the hat, never noticed that before.

  • CWac19 | June 5, 2010 at 7:00 pm |

    Hinchliffe Stadium is a real gem, and as Ricardo alludes to above, it is one of several WPA-era stadia in North Jersey that either have faced or will be facing the wrecking ball. Schools Stadium on Bloomfield Avenue in Newark was a gorgeous horseshoe that looked like a mini Harvard Stadium. I remember attending a Wayne Valley – Newark West Side game there back in 1991. The structural integrity of the stadium was so compromised that aluminum bleachers had been set up on the cinder track, and the fans were not allowed on the concrete stands. However, just being in that grand of an edifice for a high school football game made the whole experience more special. Schools Stadium is now a weed-strewn lot, with only the scoreboard still standing. (I understand a “new” Schools Stadium will be going up in its place, but the sense of history will be gone.)

    Another WPA-era gem that is not long for this world is Foley Field in Bloomfield. Unlike Hinchliffe and Schools, Foley is not a full horseshoe, but rather an enormous (by NJ high school standards) single set of concrete and steel stands on the home side of the field. It’s another stadium that’s seen a lot of history, to include the 1937 Bloomfield HS Bengals (for whom my grandfather played), who went undefeated and un-scored-upon. Like Schools Stadium, I understand there are plans to replace Foley Field with a “new, state-of-the-art” facility. It’s a damn shame, though, that more generations of young athletes will not get to experience the thrill of playing ball in these monuments to sport.

  • Kyle F | June 5, 2010 at 7:25 pm |

    Mariners and Angels are have a turn back the clock game today with the Mariners wearing teal unis from 1995, and the angels in CA Angels gear.

  • JTH | June 5, 2010 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”393105″]Mariners and Angels are have a turn back the clock game today with the Mariners wearing teal unis from 1995, and the angels in CA Angels gear.[/quote]
    Paging Mr. Vilk…

  • JimV19 | June 5, 2010 at 9:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”393106″][quote comment=”393105″]Mariners and Angels are have a turn back the clock game today with the Mariners wearing teal unis from 1995, and the angels in CA Angels gear.[/quote]
    Paging Mr. Vilk…[/quote]

    Oooooooooh, YEAH!
    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • JimV19 | June 5, 2010 at 9:33 pm |

    I mean, seriously, Griffey couldn’t have waited until today to retire? A classic should have gone out wearing a classic.
    http://espn-i.starwa...
    That’s one of the few jerseys I’d actually consider buying…at sale prices, of course.

    Say, guys, what if the Seahawks went with teal instead of neon green? Would you wear that?

  • Mike Engle | June 5, 2010 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”393107″][quote comment=”393106″][quote comment=”393105″]Mariners and Angels are have a turn back the clock game today with the Mariners wearing teal unis from 1995, and the angels in CA Angels gear.[/quote]
    Paging Mr. Vilk…[/quote]

    Oooooooooh, YEAH!
    http://espn-i.starwa...
    And the 35th Anny patch for the Angels, to boot.
    Can I nominate this for “Best Throwback Game (Non-Negro League Tribute) of the Year?” I mean, it’s the mid-90s, so it’s almost CORRECT not to see any stirrups.
    (But it’s still sad to think of it that way. Almost, “so bad, it’s good.” Except, “it’s good because it’s bad.”)

  • inkracer | June 5, 2010 at 9:48 pm |

    Philly’s MLS wore Flyers shirts during their Pre-game against Chicago.

    http://hphotos-snc3....

    (Not the best pic)

  • JimV19 | June 5, 2010 at 9:53 pm |

    Hey DIY guys,

    Here are a couple of sites for you:
    http://manmadediy.co...
    http://www.dudecraft...

    There’s some pretty cool stuff on here. Now we need to send them some Uni Watch stuff to add to it.

  • Terry D. | June 5, 2010 at 10:31 pm |

    Quick discussion about basketball. I personally think that the situation with the “baggy” look in basketball in general can easily be solved if everyone went with at least SOME form of S.o.D.

    The fitted jersey gives the sophisticated look up top, and the long, sometimes baggy shorts don’t bother me as long as they’re not hanging off the players’ asses, at the risk of LOOKING like a bunch of asses.

    I may or may not get some backlash for saying this, but I know some of you will agree that

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    looks a LOT better than

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    size-wise, of course. Design-wise, the Lakers and “Relics” have timeless designs.

  • LI Phil | June 5, 2010 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”393112″]Quick discussion about basketball. I personally think that the situation with the “baggy” look in basketball in general can easily be solved if everyone went with at least SOME form of S.o.D.

    The fitted jersey gives the sophisticated look up top, and the long, sometimes baggy shorts don’t bother me as long as they’re not hanging off the players’ asses, at the risk of LOOKING like a bunch of asses.

    I may or may not get some backlash for saying this, but I know some of you will agree that

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    looks a LOT better than

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    size-wise, of course. Design-wise, the Lakers and “Relics” have timeless designs.[/quote]

    the SOD tops are fine…excellent even…and 99.99% of the hoopsters have guns that would put the wild bill hickok to shame, so let them show ’em off…

    the sod pants, OTOH, are horrible…about 4″ too long and WAY TOO BAGGY…im not suggesting they go with a slim fit and look like rafa nadal…but that would look better than the bloomers they’re being given now

    i actually think if they could make the SOD pants this length and fit, the SOD would look good

  • Ricko | June 5, 2010 at 11:39 pm |

    The SOD shirt, while fitting better, still look a bit like muscle shirts to me. Would rather them cut a bit more like typical basketball jerseys of the past.
    Something like this…
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko

  • Terry D. | June 5, 2010 at 11:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”393113″][quote comment=”393112″]Quick discussion about basketball. I personally think that the situation with the “baggy” look in basketball in general can easily be solved if everyone went with at least SOME form of S.o.D.

    The fitted jersey gives the sophisticated look up top, and the long, sometimes baggy shorts don’t bother me as long as they’re not hanging off the players’ asses, at the risk of LOOKING like a bunch of asses.

    I may or may not get some backlash for saying this, but I know some of you will agree that

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    looks a LOT better than

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    size-wise, of course. Design-wise, the Lakers and “Relics” have timeless designs.[/quote]

    the SOD tops are fine…excellent even…and 99.99% of the hoopsters have guns that would put the wild bill hickok to shame, so let them show ’em off…

    the sod pants, OTOH, are horrible…about 4″ too long and WAY TOO BAGGY…im not suggesting they go with a slim fit and look like rafa nadal…but that would look better than the bloomers they’re being given now

    i actually think if they could make the SOD pants this length and fit, the SOD would look good[/quote]

    Agreed. I like the S.o.D. length, but it’s too baggy. At least slim it down, even if you do run the risk of making the shorts look like Capris.

    http://tinyurl.com/c...

    O.K., maybe Aston Kutcher’s ‘pris were a little extra long, but you get the idea. Wait, did I just contradict myself?

  • Andy | June 6, 2010 at 12:48 am |

    [quote comment=”393114″]The SOD shirt, while fitting better, still look a bit like muscle shirts to me. Would rather them cut a bit more like typical basketball jerseys of the past.
    Something like this…
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I agree. SODs without the wide shoulders would be perfect. I’d make the shorts a little shorter, hitting right above the kneecap, and slimmer, obviously.

    Say, that’s a very ‘today’ looking jersey the Big O is wearing, isn’t it? Looks good to me, though.

  • traxel | June 6, 2010 at 1:19 am |

    Friday Missive (I’m on borrowed time)

    – Those dark pants in the college softball world series are growing on me….I think I’m liking them….

    – Why is it suddenly all the rage to put an apostrophe in Hawai’i?

    – Just watched The Slugger’s Wife. Baaaaaad movie. But it was kinda cool seeing Hrobosky and Fidrych on the mound one more time!

    – Broke out the Cubs blue with red stripes stirrups – closest I had to the Braves in the movie.

    – Pleeeeeease get this NBA thing over and done with ASAP.

    – Griffey in green. That would have been nice.

    – I thought it was a bad deal when Junior Griffey was told by MLB to turn his hat around frontways during batting practice. Individualism instead of robots. I say assign standard unis and if players want to wear them in certain ways, go for it. I’ll certain have my opinions but I much prefer less government to more regulations.

    – Let’s let teams negotiate their own uniform deals and designs. Out of the box concepts are great. I love ugly uniforms. I’ll be the first to make fun of them and the first to buy the same thing.

    – Seven hours at a swim meet makes me grumpy.

    – On the ice I like the Blackhawks red jerseys. On the rack, I like the white one. The black one can go away forever IMO. Not the throwback, the other one.

    – I sure wish John Wooden had coached one of my alma materses. Class guy. Now let’s not memorialize him in some cheap way that doesn’t represent his character.

    – That textured gray cannot get to Majestic soon enough. Get it on the field. NOW.

    – All instant replay talk should end right this minute. I love bad calls. Human sport, human judges. Same for football and all other sports. It’s slow, will always have bugs, takes away ALL flow and momentum, and makes me change the channel EVERY TIME. Good riddance.

    – Seriously, How can this guy not be in the hall of fame? http://www.aaronglee...

    – Jerseys I must have before I die:
    1981 White Sox Luzinski #19
    So Cal Sun pink Lamonica #3
    Iowa Barnstormers Warner #13
    1976 blue Cardinals Ted Simmons #23
    1969 Kansas State Lynn Dickey #11
    1976 Buccaneers Gary Huff #19

    Have a good Saturday everyone! Or whatever.

  • hoker | June 6, 2010 at 1:30 am |

    [quote comment=”393108″]I mean, seriously, Griffey couldn’t have waited until today to retire? A classic should have gone out wearing a classic.
    http://espn-i.starwa...
    That’s one of the few jerseys I’d actually consider buying…at sale prices, of course.

    Say, guys, what if the Seahawks went with teal instead of neon green? Would you wear that?[/quote]

    I’m sorry, but I love the old teal jerseys and hats. I was 12 in 1995, and I just remember seeing Griffey stuff EVERYWHERE and I loved it to death. It was before I started getting sick of seeing the same crap everywhere. I’d see Griffey stuff, and of course the Jordan stuff (before the spin-off Jordan and Jumpman brands… when it was more Nike Air Jordan), and I just thought “awesome.” I don’t like teal as a color, but I miss it with the Mariners, and I miss the brighter shade of teal with the Marlins. I thought they were great, and at that age, now I look back and that’s MY era. Years from now, my kids will say “eewwww teal?” “Yes, kids. (F-ing) TEAL!” I’ll remember it just as fondly as my love for the powder blue Royals of George, Bo, and Charlie. I remember those with nostalgia because of all my visits to KC as a kid, even though obviously they wore white. Strange, just like my love for the teal I guess.

  • Burghfan | June 6, 2010 at 1:39 am |

    Seriously, How can this guy not be in the hall of fame?

    Because of this.

  • FrankMercogliano | June 6, 2010 at 3:33 am |

    It’s actually not an apostrophe in the school name of Hawai’i, but it’s called an “okina”, which is used in between vowels in Hawaiian dialect to let people know there is a pause in between the letters.

    For instance, noon is pronounced “noon”, but in Hawaiian dialect, “no’on” is pronounced “noh on”

    It’s like an accent mark if that makes sense. I know when I put the team name on the scoreboard at the WAC baseball tournament and it was spelled “Hawai’i”, all the Rainbow administrators were pretty happy.

    Frank

  • scott | June 6, 2010 at 6:53 am |

    Seattle fans should remember, though, that the Mariners didn’t wear the teal tops when they beat the Angels in the one-game playoff to decide the AL West in ’95. Maybe that’s why the Angels won yesterday. :)

  • eric | June 6, 2010 at 7:15 am |

    Indianapolis still has Bush Stadium, but no longer uses it and it is falling slowly into ruin. The stadium was the home of the Indianapolis Clowns in the Negro Leagues. The stadium was an active baseball stadium up until 1996.

  • JimV19 | June 6, 2010 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”393113″][quote comment=”393112″]Quick discussion about basketball. I personally think that the situation with the “baggy” look in basketball in general can easily be solved if everyone went with at least SOME form of S.o.D.

    The fitted jersey gives the sophisticated look up top, and the long, sometimes baggy shorts don’t bother me as long as they’re not hanging off the players’ asses, at the risk of LOOKING like a bunch of asses.

    I may or may not get some backlash for saying this, but I know some of you will agree that

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    looks a LOT better than

    this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    and this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2...

    size-wise, of course. Design-wise, the Lakers and “Relics” have timeless designs.[/quote]

    the SOD tops are fine…excellent even…and 99.99% of the hoopsters have guns that would put the wild bill hickok to shame, so let them show ’em off…

    the sod pants, OTOH, are horrible…about 4″ too long and WAY TOO BAGGY…im not suggesting they go with a slim fit and look like rafa nadal…but that would look better than the bloomers they’re being given now

    i actually think if they could make the SOD pants this length and fit, the SOD would look good[/quote]

    This is what happens when I call it a night too early…

    So what you’re saying is, if they wore them a little less baggy, the SoD looks fine? But you don’t use the same criterion for the Lakers and Celtics unis?

    If both unis are fitted better, then the NBA unis still blow away the SoD. No contest.

    The SoD tops are usually too bland, especially in the front. That draws attention to the players’ “guns.” Big flippin’ deal. All the more reason to add yet another tattoo to the way too many they already have. I’d rather see this top: http://grfx.cstv.com...

    As for below the waist, it’s a joke. I’m not saying we should go back to the days of George Gervin, but at least wear them slightly above the knees. Otherwise, they’re not shorts.

    The NBA unis may be baggier these days, but they still look better. I don’t seeing the SoD being an improvement, no matter how you cut them.

  • Big Al | June 8, 2010 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”393085″]Paul,
    The stadium is only 10 minutes from Rutt’s Hut in Clifton. Go get a ripper.
    SZ[/quote]
    River View East in Elmwood Park > Rutt’s
    (One man’s opinion…)

    I take a dicey shortcut off of Rt. 19 past Hinchliffe when visiting family in Wayne. My wife looks at me like I have three heads when I tell her Hinchliffe (aka “that dump?”) used to host professional sporting events. What a disaster it has become, especially when you consider the equally historic Great Falls are a stone’s throw away. Sad to say, but no matter how much money they pump into the stadium, it will probably all be for naught. There will always be the homeless, gangs and crackheads to contend with.

  • Big Al | June 8, 2010 at 5:56 pm |

    http://www.digitalba...

    This was certainly no hitters dream park… if you were a lefty. With dimensions more similar to LA Coliseum and the Polo Grounds, the scoreboard out in left center is 460 feet away from home plate.

    Very strange that people who host a website dedicated to ballparks and could make accurate comparisons to the LA Coliseum and the Polo Grounds would make a mistake like left-handed batters pulling the ball to left field…