Memo to Mex: Might Be Best Not to Bring Bacon-Wrapped Shrimp to the Seder

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I was busy Mother’s Day-ing on Sunday, and you probably were too, so we didn’t see the day’s most significant uni-related moment. Fortunately, reader Andy Kanzer is a thoughtless son who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about Mother’s Day, so he was parked in front of the teevee at the crucial moment and saw what we all missed.

Here’s the deal: As the Mets/Giants game was about to start, Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen briefly removed his cap, revealing a Mets yamulke underneath (not sure if the logo is using the Classic Script or the Wilpon Script). This prompted an absolutely surreal exchange between broadcasters Keith Hernandez and Gary Cohen (the latter of whom, presumably, is Jewish):

Hernandez: Was that a Met yamulke right there?

Cohen: That’s exactly what that looked like.

Hernandez: How about that.

Cohen [apparently unaware of Warthen's chosen personhood]: It’s a bit of a surprise.

Hernandez: Well, it’s Sunday. [Painfully awkward pause follows.]

Cohen: Yeah?

Hernandez: Did you, did you go to temple today?

Cohen: Not on Sunday, Keith. Saturday.

Hernandez: Oh! Excuse me, I’ve got it wrong, don’t I. I’ve gotta get my facts straight.

Cohen [cracking up]: We’ll have the course in comparative religion right after the game.

Hernandez: No no no, we don’t have to. I had my catechism when I was young, please.

This was actually Hernandez’s second noteworthy incident of the weekend, although the first one wasn’t uni-related. The amazing thing about all this is that Hernandez was always known — and is still thought of, in some circles — as a cerebral guy, which just goes to show what doing the daily crossword will do for your image.

Meanwhile, does Warthen always wear a kippah, or was it just a one-day thing? I asked former Mets batboy Matt Harris, who said, “Wow, I never saw that the whole time we shared a clubhouse in New York. Not even when he came in for the day and was wearing street clothes. Never saw him wear it when they left in suits for a road trip either.”

Hmmm, so is Warthen even Jewish? Is he studying to convert, or maybe he has a case of Jew envy? Has he been talking about more than pitching with Fred Wilpon’s pal Sandy Koufax? Or is he getting current Met Sean “Not a Jew” Green mixed up with the former Met Shawn “Very Much a Jew” Green? We’ll have to see if Warthen leaves a space on the dugout bench for Elijah.

Meanwhile, I want to make it very clear that I was kidding about Andy Kanzer being a lousy son. He even posted a Mother’s Day note on his blog — and his mom left a comment! Nice.

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Rolls Reuss: Bruce Menard informed me yesterday that Jerry Reuss, the former pitcher and current broadcaster, has a Flickr account, and he’s posted some interesting old photos. Among the highlights: Ruess with the 1969 Tulsa Oilers (note the straight NOB and also the MLB centennial patch — I didn’t recall that minor league teams had worn it); Reuss and his Little League All-Star Team (I especially like that Jets jersey); and a rare shot of Beer Barrel Man batting left-handed. Lots of good old stadium photos, too.

But my favorite shot is this one — note the wildly inconsistent uni number fonts, and how the double-flap helmet at lower-left has a much smaller logo. But what intrigues me the most is the flapless helmet at lower-right: Looks like there’s a cap already fitted into the helmet! I’m assuming that was for Eddie Murray, since he wore his cap under his helmet. But was it a special cap that he only wore while batting, as opposed to the cap he wore in the field? Possibly, at least judging by this photo.

Meanwhile, Reuss appears to be a more interesting cat than your average professional athlete. He’s a decent photographer and has provided informative commentary (some of it uni-related) for most of the photos — recommended clicking. I’ve never heard him broadcast. Is he good?

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Collector’s Corner

By Brinke Guthrie

That’s me during the Rangers’ first month in Arlington — April 1972. The cap hid my bowl haircut nicely.

Now then, today’s featured item: 1970s helmet plaques. There are two types from the period I’m aware of — this kind and this kind. We also have entries from the Bills, Redskins, Dolphins, Cowboys, Bears, Pete Liske-era Eagles, Cards, Chargers, Bucs, and just about everyone else. Meanwhile, what is this kinda plaque? The helmet looks too small for the head.

In other finds:

• Whenever I see one of these LA Rams hats, I think “Chuck Knox.”

• I just bought one of these NFL thermal mugs — love it, use it all the time. But I only paid $16, nowhere near the $40 they want for this one.

• Staubach wearing Brooks cleats. I know at one point in the late ’70s Brooks owned MLB. Rare in the NFL, though.

This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

• I remember NFL Strategy, though. In fact, I wore that game out.

• I believe this Nate Colbert card came from cereal, no? [Yes indeed -- that's from the Kellogg's "3-D" series. They always curled like that. -- PL]

• Always thought the Spirits of St. Louis was a great name and logo.

Crane Potato Chip discs?! Complete with Charlie Sanders afro.

• I collected baseball cards in the ’70s — I’d just order the whole set from an ad in the back of The Sporting News, then get a pack or two at the local King Kwik for the gum fix. These “Traded” cards really bothered me. It was like a big disclaimer across the front. “Not good enough.” [Similarly, they always reminded me of the FBI "Wanted" posters down at the post office. -- PL]

• These NFL medallions are just too cool to be believed. I still have two of ’em.

• And finally: alien electric football players!

Uni Watch News Ticker: Paul here again. An addendum to Brinke’s picks: Some interesting retro-style jerseys from Warner Bros. film projects have shown up on eBay. I particularly like the one with the fractional uni number. … The Nippon Ham Fighters have released their We Love Hokkaido Series uniform for July (with thanks to, of course, Jeremy Brahm). … Some cool items recently floating around the auction world, including a killer Bears jacket, an AFL officiating jersey, and — get this — a game-used Oakland Invaders equipment bag (great stuff from Mike Hersh). … New football uniforms for Arizona. Better photos to follow shortly, I hope (with thanks to Kenny Abbey). … I can’t fully wrap by brain around this World Cup chart, but it sure is purty (thanks, Kirsten). … Georgia Tech baseball will be wearing these 1985 throwbacks on Saturday (as reported by Tim O’Meara). … The Toledo Mud Hens wore really boring throwbacks last night (with thanks to Jeff Cohen). … Greg Stamps reports that the Texas Rangers have a small gift shop where they sell game-used stuff and related memorabilia. “It’s kind of like a garage sale at the equipment manager’s house,” he says. “On Saturday I was thumbing through the racks and came across a mutilated undershirt with sweat stains all over it for the bargain price of $5. We all know Tom Hicks is hurting for money, but c’mon!” The best part: They’re trying to sell the phantom two-tone helmets! … You’ve Gotta Be Kidding Me Dept.: Russell Martin wears his mother’s initial on his NOB every day, but Orioles catcher Matt Wieters wasn’t allowed to wear his mom’s name on his chest protector collaron Mother’s Day. So everyone’s wearing pink, the hitters are swinging pink bats, but a little inscription on a chest protector (which nobody but readers of this blog would ever notice anyway) is out of bounds? Yet another case of MLB failing to have a ticket on the clue train (thanks to Mike Rich for the tip). … MLB batting helmets aren’t supposed to have manufacturers’ logos on them. But Shane Victorino appears to have two Rawlings decals, one of which has been covered up, on the back of his lid. They’ve been there since spring training, but they weren’t there last year, and they’re not on his alternate helmet (with thanks to Clint Glaze for spotting the decals).

 

168 comments to Memo to Mex: Might Be Best Not to Bring Bacon-Wrapped Shrimp to the Seder

  • inkracer | May 11, 2010 at 7:50 am |

    From what I can tell, it looks like the World Cup Chart is predicting the outcome of this year’s World Cup, based solely off of each country’s GDP..
    Makes it interesting, but not really realistic.

  • Bruce | May 11, 2010 at 7:51 am |

    Hey Paul,

    Your link correctly goes to the Jerry Reuss Flickr account, but it’s written out as a Twitter account. Just an FYI if you want to change it. BTW, Jerry’s Little League team was The Beavers. He said the logo was a beaver wearing a baseball cap (although it’s tough to see in the pic).

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Cheers!
    ~Bruce

  • Ray Barrington | May 11, 2010 at 8:07 am |

    Ah, I remember those cheap plastic helmet plaques well. Had the Packer one in the 60s on my Packer wall in my bedroom, of course. And one of the local TV stations used all the plaques for a score display on Sunday nights, hanging on a wall with big stick-on numbers next to them giving the score. Pre-electronic graphics magic!

  • scott | May 11, 2010 at 8:09 am |

    The Mud Hens’ turn-back-the-clock uniforms may have been “boring,” but the intent was to have a game played at Durham’s old park that looked like a game might have back in the 1980s. The Bulls also wore “throwbacks” for the game. Does anyone know how accurate the uniforms were in evoking the past?

  • Paul Lukas | May 11, 2010 at 8:10 am |

    [quote comment="389648"]Hey Paul,

    Your link correctly goes to the Jerry Reuss Flickr account, but it’s written out as a Twitter account. [/quote]

    Oops. Now fixed. Thanks!

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 8:12 am |

    So, Paul…

    Got any action photos handy of the O’s in their gray lids?

  • Bohs and O's | May 11, 2010 at 8:13 am |

    Paul,

    While your Eddie Murray theory makes sense with the hat in the flap-less helmet you can see two helmets (one with a flap on the left, one with a flap on the right) with the #33 on them in the top right of the photo. This being Eddie’s #, added to the fact that he was a switch hitter, leads me to believe that the flap-less helmet with the hat already inside belonged to another Oriole.

  • StLMarty | May 11, 2010 at 8:20 am |

    [quote comment="389650"]The Mud Hens’ turn-back-the-clock uniforms may have been “boring,” but the intent was to have a game played at Durham’s old park that looked like a game might have back in the 1980s. The Bulls also wore “throwbacks” for the game. Does anyone know how accurate the uniforms were in evoking the past?[/quote]
    I missa da Klinger already.

  • RS Rogers | May 11, 2010 at 8:36 am |

    The World Cup chart is a thing of beauty. However, the dataset is much too deep (back to 1980?!) for it to have much predictive value.

    On the other hand, thanks to the skewed dataset, it has Serbia knocking out USA in the Round of 16. (Presumably because Yugoslavia was a good team in the 1980s.) In reality, USA should beat Serbia. Since the chart has the winner of USA-Serbia playing the highly beatable South Korea, the upshot of the chart is that USA can expect to make the semifinals, where we’ll lose to Spain. (Spain v. Brazil in the final? I can live with that, and since the Cup is being played outside Europe, Brazil wins.) Then it’s USA-Germany in the third-place game, and barring the kind of insanely anti-USA biased officiating that usually plagues USA-Germany games, that’s a tough but winnable game for USA. So read correctly, the chart is predicting a very good World Cup tournament for the USA.

  • Bob | May 11, 2010 at 8:38 am |

    “former Met Sean “Very Much a Jew” Green”

    He’s actually Shawn Green.

  • Paul Lukas | May 11, 2010 at 8:40 am |

    [quote comment="389656"]“former Met Sean “Very Much a Jew” Green”

    He’s actually Shawn Green.[/quote]

    Ah, thank you — will fix now.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment="389654"][quote comment="389650"]The Mud Hens’ turn-back-the-clock uniforms may have been “boring,” but the intent was to have a game played at Durham’s old park that looked like a game might have back in the 1980s. The Bulls also wore “throwbacks” for the game. Does anyone know how accurate the uniforms were in evoking the past?[/quote]
    I missa da Klinger already.[/quote]

    ‘cept ol’ Max always wore a Texas Rangers hat, a that didn’t come into existence until well after the Korean War, of course.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 8:52 am |

    A couple of Mudhens jerseys here, so that one they wore last night might not be too far afield from their 80s unis.
    http://www.ebbets.co...

    —Ricko

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 8:53 am |

    The Rangers’ two-tone helmet rightly gets no love here, but why not take a shot at the Mets’ and Rockies’ two-tone helmets, which are especially riddiculous because they don’t match the caps.

  • Josh | May 11, 2010 at 8:55 am |

    Nationals keeping their streak of bungling “their” logo alive. Spotted in the National’s team store:

    http://cache.gawkera...

  • TC Lofton | May 11, 2010 at 8:56 am |

    Interesting story… it appears Keith wasn’t chosen for a reason.

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but I remember helmet plaques making a brief comeback in the early 90′s, but a bit larger, and mounted on a large wooden NFL shield. I think the Lions one my brother had doubled as a hatrack.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 8:59 am |

    This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment="389661"]Nationals keeping their streak of bungling “their” logo alive. Spotted in the National’s team store:

    http://cache.gawkera...

    Hey, it’s a government town.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 9:01 am |

    [quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko

  • pru | May 11, 2010 at 9:09 am |

    Really like the GT throwbacks, but whats with the hats? It looks like they bought a bunch of $5 blank (non-fitted) hats from Lids and had them embroidered.

  • Aaron | May 11, 2010 at 9:09 am |

    Here’s a good picture of the Durham Bulls from last night, just don’t look at his shoes. Apparently, he had a basketball game before he took the mound.

    http://matchbin-asse...

  • Joe Hilseberg | May 11, 2010 at 9:17 am |

    I’m sitting at my desk at work and I can’t bring myself to do anything but stare at those old photos of Memorial Stadium.

    I also love the helmet picture! The logo on the lower left helmet is smaller because the helmet is from a different manufacturer. I think those style helmets made their debut in 88….you can also see it has a thinner white panel that comes to a point on the top. They were probably provided with a copy of the logo that was used for print. Much like how the Yankees are today with the NY, the 70′s – 80′s O’s had multiple birds for different purposes.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment="389667"]Here’s a good picture of the Durham Bulls from last night, just don’t look at his shoes. Apparently, he had a basketball game before he took the mound.

    http://matchbin-asse...

    Ah, that would be Lyle from over to the grainery who pitches for the town team on weekends. Wears his high school football cleats.

    High tops do look dopey in baseball, don’t they.

    —Ricko

  • Joe Hilseberg | May 11, 2010 at 9:21 am |

    You can search Orioles Helmet at this site and see some examles

    http://parkwaypastim...

    However, he doesn’t have any with the smaller logo

  • Ilana Hardesty | May 11, 2010 at 9:22 am |

    May be old news, but Red Sox SS Dustin Pedroia is going high-cuffed, as of Sunday. Any thoughts as to why?
    http://multimedia.he...

  • lose remerswaal | May 11, 2010 at 9:25 am |

    Warthen’s a convert

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

  • lose remerswaal | May 11, 2010 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment="389672"]Warthen’s a convert

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    Adding more info:

    http://www.neilkelle...

  • frankenslade | May 11, 2010 at 9:38 am |

    I always liked Reuss: same birthday, lefty, long hair, great mustache! I’ve been thinking about those stovepipe hats from the bicentennial era. A guy who sits in my row at Citizens Bank Park wears what seems to be his original Phillies stovepipe hat and Dave Cash jersey to every game. I’ve got to ask him about it next game on our plan.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 9:40 am |

    QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    I mentioned Tom Clements at Notre Dame and Doug Flutie with Bears and Patriots.

    Forgot about Terelle Pryor.

    Anyone think of any others?

    –Ricko

  • shadoquad | May 11, 2010 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment="389668"]I’m sitting at my desk at work and I can’t bring myself to do anything but stare at those old photos of Memorial Stadium.

    I also love the helmet picture! The logo on the lower left helmet is smaller because the helmet is from a different manufacturer. I think those style helmets made their debut in 88….you can also see it has a thinner white panel that comes to a point on the top. They were probably provided with a copy of the logo that was used for print. Much like how the Yankees are today with the NY, the 70′s – 80′s O’s had multiple birds for different purposes.[/quote]

    Speaking of 88 and the O’s picture, the helmet with “88″ on it must have belonged to Rene Gonzales. I don’t know too many other MLB players who wore 88. I can’t even think of one. I’m no expert, though. It wasn’t like Gonzales was a huge standout or anything, but I relate that number on that helmet to him instantly. Crazy.

  • frankenslade | May 11, 2010 at 9:46 am |

    The TRADED cards were cool, especially when – in pre-PhotoShop days – the player had his new hat color added in that velvety tone:

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 9:46 am |

    Tim Couch wore #2, for what that’s worth.

    Brian St. Pierre wore #2 as a clipboard operator for the Steelers..

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 9:50 am |

    Aaron Brooks wore #2 for the Raiders and Saints, and Anthony Wright wore #2 for the Ravens and Steelers

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment="389677"]The TRADED cards were cool, especially when – in pre-PhotoShop days – the player had his new hat color added in that velvety tone:

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    I always liked the earlier years, when they at least took a shot at “painting” the new hat (Crowe had been with the Reds the previous season).
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://www.vintageca...
    And eventually, they’d get an actual photo…
    http://caimages.coll...

    —Ricko

  • Rick | May 11, 2010 at 9:54 am |

    Oops!

    This was found at the Nationals team store:

    http://cache.gawkera...

  • subway | May 11, 2010 at 9:58 am |

    Quarterbacks wearing #2 and nobody’s mentioned Matt Ryan yet?

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment="389682"]Quarterbacks wearing #2 and nobody’s mentioned Matt Ryan yet?[/quote]

    I hadn’t mentally gotten around to the Falcons yet :)

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment="389665"][quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: “VINTAGE 1970′S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?

  • Adam | May 11, 2010 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment="389671"]May be old news, but Red Sox SS Dustin Pedroia is going high-cuffed, as of Sunday. Any thoughts as to why?
    http://multimedia.he...

    I am guessing he is trying to jump start his lathargic SAWX Team who is already making plans to be playing golf in October

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | May 11, 2010 at 10:04 am |

    I loved those 1974 “traded” cards! Every year has a “traded” set; but in most years they look like normal cards and fit in with the rest of the set. In 1974, the “traded” cards were overtly labelled, and featured on the reverse side a news-style article about the trade, instead of normal stats.

    These cards were highly educational — I still remember faking the need to go to the bathroom in 4th grade, in order to sit there and look at my cards, learning in the process that Lou Piniella had been acquired in exchange for Lindy McDaniel!

  • Robert Eden | May 11, 2010 at 10:05 am |

    I have purchased far too many items at the Rangers’ game-used shop at the Ballpark. There are some real bargains to be had, including game-used jerseys for as low as fifty bucks.

    My favorite item: green stirrups that were presumably leftover from a St. Patrick’s Day game in the early-to-mid ’90s, when the team sported green jerseys and needed stirrups to match.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment="389683"][quote comment="389682"]Quarterbacks wearing #2 and nobody’s mentioned Matt Ryan yet?[/quote]

    I hadn’t mentally gotten around to the Falcons yet :)[/quote]

    (forehead smack) Kept thinking there was someone active today and was drawing a blank.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    I mentioned Tom Clements at Notre Dame and Doug Flutie with Bears and Patriots.

    Forgot about Terelle Pryor.

    Anyone think of any others?

    –Ricko[/quote]
    Top shelf? Well, how can we leave PT Willis and Will Furrer out of the discussion?

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    [/quote]

    jamarcus russell

    wait…you said *quarterbacks*

  • JB Early | May 11, 2010 at 10:16 am |

    I know – it doesn’t sound like it. But there is an R in yarmulke. Yet another excellent chock filled UW. Too bad it takes @#%&*! 5 minutes for my handcranked Mac to load…

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment="389690"][quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    [/quote]

    jamarcus russell

    wait…you said *quarterbacks*[/quote]

    Also said “top shelf”. The subject came up because of the stellar careers of Russell and Tim Couch. And I included Flutie because in the years he wore #2 he was 14-9 as an NFL starter. Then he went to Canada because 14-9 apparently was a clear indication that he couldn’t play in the NFL.

    —Ricko

  • greg allred | May 11, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    I remember Staubach’s Brooks cleats…Dan Marino and Joe Washington wore Brooks too. I wore tham as practice cleats in High School, although we wore Spot-Bilt as game cleats. I loved Brooks cleats/shoes…I thought they looked sharp.

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment="389692"][quote comment="389690"][quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    [/quote]

    jamarcus russell

    wait…you said *quarterbacks*[/quote]

    Also said “top shelf”. The subject came up because of the stellar careers of Russell and Tim Couch. And I included Flutie because in the years he wore #2 he was 14-9 as an NFL starter. Then he went to Canada because 14-9 apparently was a clear indication that he couldn’t play in the NFL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Brooks and Young were top shelf for about a quarter each – Jamarcus was only top shelf at the Big And Tall store..

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment="389692"][quote comment="389690"][quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    [/quote]

    jamarcus russell

    wait…you said *quarterbacks*[/quote]

    Also said “top shelf”. The subject came up because of the stellar careers of Russell and Tim Couch. And I included Flutie because in the years he wore #2 he was 14-9 as an NFL starter. Then he went to Canada because 14-9 apparently was a clear indication that he couldn’t play in the NFL.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    If pro-football-reference.com is to be believed, he was actually 10-5 (which is actually a better winning percentage) before heading north, but who’s counting?

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment="389695"][quote comment="389692"][quote comment="389690"][quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    [/quote]

    jamarcus russell

    wait…you said *quarterbacks*[/quote]

    Also said “top shelf”. The subject came up because of the stellar careers of Russell and Tim Couch. And I included Flutie because in the years he wore #2 he was 14-9 as an NFL starter. Then he went to Canada because 14-9 apparently was a clear indication that he couldn’t play in the NFL.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    If pro-football-reference.com is to be believed, he was actually 10-5 (which is actually a better winning percentage) before heading north, but who’s counting?[/quote]

    … and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment="389695"][quote comment="389692"][quote comment="389690"][quote comment="389675"]QB’s WEARING #2…

    This came up over the weekend.
    Not a lot of top shelf QB’s (pro or college) have worn #2.
    [/quote]

    jamarcus russell

    wait…you said *quarterbacks*[/quote]

    Also said “top shelf”. The subject came up because of the stellar careers of Russell and Tim Couch. And I included Flutie because in the years he wore #2 he was 14-9 as an NFL starter. Then he went to Canada because 14-9 apparently was a clear indication that he couldn’t play in the NFL.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    If pro-football-reference.com is to be believed, he was actually 10-5 (which is actually a better winning percentage) before heading north, but who’s counting?[/quote]
    Oops. He was 10-6, if you include his one playoff loss (which I wish I could forget).

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="389696"]… and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..[/quote]
    But he finished his career wearing #2.

  • Chris A. | May 11, 2010 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="389684"][quote comment="389665"][quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: “VINTAGE 1970′S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?[/quote]

    I had that game and it was released in the early/mid 1980′s. I believe the game board was a football field and you would advance your football up and down the field. When you had the ball you would pick a card which would tell you the result of your ‘play’ and you would move the ball accordingly — there was also the ten-yard chain to indicate where you needed to go to get a first down. Some of those cards told you to set the video tape to a certain time (say 23:45) and the video would play actual NFL game footage and the result of the play you just watched would be the result of your ‘play’ on the game board. Problem was that no two VCR’s would ever count time the same way so the play at 23:45 at my house could be a 35 yard run while at my friend’s house it could be a INT for a TD (or a TAINT: Touchdown After INT.)

  • Chris A. | May 11, 2010 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment="389647"]From what I can tell, it looks like the World Cup Chart is predicting the outcome of this year’s World Cup, based solely off of each country’s GDP..
    Makes it interesting, but not really realistic.[/quote]

    Any idea what magazine that was in?

  • Joe Hilseberg | May 11, 2010 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment="389676"]

    Speaking of 88 and the O’s picture, the helmet with “88″ on it must have belonged to Rene Gonzales. I don’t know too many other MLB players who wore 88. I can’t even think of one. I’m no expert, though. It wasn’t like Gonzales was a huge standout or anything, but I relate that number on that helmet to him instantly. Crazy.[/quote]

    I actually own his 1988 Orange pullover game jersey! My dad got it at an auction for like $40 in the 90′s.

  • mike 2 | May 11, 2010 at 10:40 am |

    If the Chris Creamer site is correct, the double-flap helmet is the 1975-1988 version of the logo (shorter beak, white patch on the bird’s cap) and all the others are the 1966-1974 version of the logo (longer beak, orange patch on the bird’s cap).

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment="389698"][quote comment="389696"]… and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..[/quote]
    But he finished his career wearing #2.[/quote]

    we’re discussing top shelf QB’s, not top shelf drop-kickers ;)

  • mike 2 | May 11, 2010 at 10:48 am |

    (I’m not suggesting the photo is from 1974 or 1975, just pointing out that the logo isn’t just smaller, its actually a different logo)

  • interlockingtc | May 11, 2010 at 10:48 am |

    I like that J. Reuss took a photo of a bunch of batting helmets.

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment="389699"][quote comment="389684"][quote comment="389665"][quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: “VINTAGE 1970′S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?[/quote]

    I had that game and it was released in the early/mid 1980′s. I believe the game board was a football field and you would advance your football up and down the field. When you had the ball you would pick a card which would tell you the result of your ‘play’ and you would move the ball accordingly — there was also the ten-yard chain to indicate where you needed to go to get a first down. Some of those cards told you to set the video tape to a certain time (say 23:45) and the video would play actual NFL game footage and the result of the play you just watched would be the result of your ‘play’ on the game board. Problem was that no two VCR’s would ever count time the same way so the play at 23:45 at my house could be a 35 yard run while at my friend’s house it could be a INT for a TD (or a TAINT: Touchdown After INT.)[/quote]
    I don’t remmeber there being directions to set your VCR to a specific time. But that could be because our VCR only had the little counter that went from 0000 thru 9999 like an odometer so we ignored that option. Our VCR also didn’t have a *wireless* remote.

    I’m positive I got that game while I had a job at a grocery store in high school. So it was somewhere between 1986 and 1988

  • TD | May 11, 2010 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment="389698"][quote comment="389696"]… and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..[/quote]
    But he finished his career wearing #2.[/quote]

    we’re discussing top-shelf QBs, not top-shelf drop-kickers ;)

    My point was that I think his remaining career wins/losses were with Buffalo.

  • Jet | May 11, 2010 at 10:56 am |

    Wow, Jerry Reuss rocks! He should get an honorary UniWatch membership for that comment about the gold pillbox hats alone!

    -Jet

  • inkracer | May 11, 2010 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=\"389700\"][quote comment=\"389647\"]From what I can tell, it looks like the World Cup Chart is predicting the outcome of this year’s World Cup, based solely off of each country’s GDP..
    Makes it interesting, but not really realistic.[/quote]

    Any idea what magazine that was in?[/quote]

    Can’t really tell, but it has an ESPN the Magazine feel to me..

  • frankenslade | May 11, 2010 at 11:00 am |

    The whole TRADED cards thing has me going down Topps memory lane. What’s with the old-time hat Jim Leyland is wearing here?

    http://www.sportscar...

    I’m looking at other 1986 Pirates cards, and maybe it was not just Leyland wearing the mesh high hat:

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    Did the Pirates wear a 1-gallon edition in 1986? Doesn’t it look higher than earlier versions of those hats? And is it some kind of mesh/”straw” version, maybe a spring training edition for better airflow?

    I’m still trying to compare hat heights and fabrics. I stumbled across an awesome review of Pirates’ uniforms on this page:

    http://nightowlcards...

    Dig Grant Jackson’s warm-up jacket!

    I forgot about the merit badges seen on one of the Phil Garner hats. (Did the Cardinals give out those merit badges too? Weren’t they the only other team that stuck with those hats for a few years?)

    I don’t recall the Topps-era card with the picture of the hat in the bottom left corner (Candeleria and Garner). Maybe that was just past the time I stopped collecting cards? Did other teams have a rounded cap for their image?

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment="389708"][quote comment="389698"][quote comment="389696"]… and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..[/quote]
    But he finished his career wearing #2.[/quote]

    we’re discussing top-shelf QBs, not top-shelf drop-kickers ;)

    My point was that I think his remaining career wins/losses were with Buffalo.[/quote]

    That 14-9 stat is something I remember from an SI story when Flutie was first in the CFL with BC Lions. And, of course, was also saying that 14-9 ain’t too shabby.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment="389710"][quote comment=\"389700\"][quote comment=\"389647\"]From what I can tell, it looks like the World Cup Chart is predicting the outcome of this year’s World Cup, based solely off of each country’s GDP..
    Makes it interesting, but not really realistic.[/quote]

    Any idea what magazine that was in?[/quote]

    Can’t really tell, but it has an ESPN the Magazine feel to me..[/quote]

    wired UK, june 2010

    flickr page

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment="389712"][quote comment="389708"][quote comment="389698"][quote comment="389696"]… and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..[/quote]
    But he finished his career wearing #2.[/quote]

    we’re discussing top-shelf QBs, not top-shelf drop-kickers ;)

    My point was that I think his remaining career wins/losses were with Buffalo.[/quote]

    That 14-9 stat is something I remember from an SI story when Flutie was first in the CFL with BC Lions. And, of course, was also saying that 14-9 ain’t too shabby.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    But he was far and away the best drop kicker of the post-merger era.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 11:07 am |

    Also noteworthy (perhaps MOST noteworthy for our purposes) among Reuss’ photos:

    A shot of the bumblebee era Pirates in pins jersey and pants with the yellow-gold hat. First time I’ve seen that combo. Pretty much always wore the black hat with pins over pins.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment="389714"][quote comment="389712"][quote comment="389708"][quote comment="389698"][quote comment="389696"]… and he wore #7 when he came back to the NFL later..[/quote]
    But he finished his career wearing #2.[/quote]

    we’re discussing top-shelf QBs, not top-shelf drop-kickers ;)

    My point was that I think his remaining career wins/losses were with Buffalo.[/quote]

    That 14-9 stat is something I remember from an SI story when Flutie was first in the CFL with BC Lions. And, of course, was also saying that 14-9 ain’t too shabby.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    But he was far and away the best drop kicker of the post-merger era.[/quote]

    ’tis true, ’tis true.
    (sorta like “Best musician in a one-man band”)

    —Ricko

  • JimWa | May 11, 2010 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment="389680"][quote comment="389677"]The TRADED cards were cool, especially when – in pre-PhotoShop days – the player had his new hat color added in that velvety tone:

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    I always liked the earlier years, when they at least took a shot at “painting” the new hat (Crowe had been with the Reds the previous season).
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://www.vintageca...
    And eventually, they’d get an actual photo…
    http://caimages.coll...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So … we’ve got a Reds player traded to the Cardinals … guess we’d better color that cap blue before we put StL on there, since the Cardinals don’t wear a red cap, eh?

  • Perry | May 11, 2010 at 11:31 am |

    Hilarious that in that Tulsa Oilers photo, Reuss is in the end-of-his-follow-through position, but still holding the ball. Ooops!

  • TommyD | May 11, 2010 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    I’d be WAY more impressed if someone had the Beta version…

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

  • mmwatkin | May 11, 2010 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment="389713"][quote comment="389710"][quote comment=\"389700\"][quote comment=\"389647\"]From what I can tell, it looks like the World Cup Chart is predicting the outcome of this year’s World Cup, based solely off of each country’s GDP..
    Makes it interesting, but not really realistic.[/quote]

    Any idea what magazine that was in?[/quote]

    Can’t really tell, but it has an ESPN the Magazine feel to me..[/quote]

    wired UK, june 2010

    flickr page[/quote]

    As soon as I saw it,I immediately thought of WIRED magazine.

    I get one every month and the subscription cost is super cheap. It is filled with cool stuff like that chart. Highly recommended.

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment="389711"]The whole TRADED cards thing has me going down Topps memory lane. What’s with the old-time hat Jim Leyland is wearing here?

    http://www.sportscar...

    I’m looking at other 1986 Pirates cards, and maybe it was not just Leyland wearing the mesh high hat:

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    Did the Pirates wear a 1-gallon edition in 1986? Doesn’t it look higher than earlier versions of those hats? And is it some kind of mesh/”straw” version, maybe a spring training edition for better airflow?

    I’m still trying to compare hat heights and fabrics. I stumbled across an awesome review of Pirates’ uniforms on this page:

    http://nightowlcards...

    Dig Grant Jackson’s warm-up jacket!

    I forgot about the merit badges seen on one of the Phil Garner hats. (Did the Cardinals give out those merit badges too? Weren’t they the only other team that stuck with those hats for a few years?)

    I don’t recall the Topps-era card with the picture of the hat in the bottom left corner (Candeleria and Garner). Maybe that was just past the time I stopped collecting cards? Did other teams have a rounded cap for their image?[/quote]

    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.

    Note that the Pirates wore pinstripe pants at Sheat Stadium in a day game. That’s still not the all-pinstripe uniform I saw them wear at Shea one night.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good

  • Mike D | May 11, 2010 at 11:59 am |

    2010/2011 Benfica home jersey

    http://www.iol.pt/mu...

  • Matthew Robins | May 11, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    Dan Warthen converted into Judaism.

  • Patrick | May 11, 2010 at 12:20 pm |

    Braves announce that Tom Glavine will be inducted into the Braves Hall of Fame and have his number 47 retired on August 6.
    http://blogs.ajc.com...

  • M.Princip | May 11, 2010 at 12:21 pm |

    Ok, in my opinion this, RK half shell, type of helmet plaque is the holy grail of NFL helmet plaques. It’s an actual RK helmet sliced in half, with an actual Riddell BD-9 face mask. Also, decals are what the pros wear for the most part. Pretty much the same way they did the helmet lamps, however, sliced in half.

    Now, there is a Seahawks version, yet, most of the ones I’ve seen do not have the real BD-9 face mask. Yet, it does exist because I have pictures of it. Interesting fact is, there has never been a Seahawks player that donned a Riddell RK helmet.

  • War Damn Eagle | May 11, 2010 at 12:36 pm |

    So how excited is Teebz that the “Jets” might return to Winnipeg?

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Andrew Dixon | May 11, 2010 at 12:59 pm |

    I am hoping some of the dedicated uni-watchers on here can help me out. When I was 17 going on 18, my family took a trip up to Cooperstown, and at that time, the HOF museum had just opened a vastly expanded gift shop. That offseason was the offseason during which the Mets introduced their short-lived white hats with blue brims, modeled here by Bernard Gilkey. But, at the same time, I am positive there was another team that was also introducing a white hat with an off-color brim, and I am pretty sure it was the Dodgers, and I am very sure it was just as short-lived as the Mets’ attempt at this. Does anyone else remember this? Am I crazy?

  • Jet | May 11, 2010 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment="389706"]I like that J. Reuss took a photo of a bunch of batting helmets.[/quote]

    Yeah, isn’t that great? Who would think to do that, unless he had some UW blood coursing through his veins! Honorary membership for Reuss!!

    -Jet

  • Mike D | May 11, 2010 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment="389728"]I am hoping some of the dedicated uni-watchers on here can help me out. When I was 17 going on 18, my family took a trip up to Cooperstown, and at that time, the HOF museum had just opened a vastly expanded gift shop. That offseason was the offseason during which the Mets introduced their short-lived white hats with blue brims, modeled here by Bernard Gilkey. But, at the same time, I am positive there was another team that was also introducing a white hat with an off-color brim, and I am pretty sure it was the Dodgers, and I am very sure it was just as short-lived as the Mets’ attempt at this. Does anyone else remember this? Am I crazy?[/quote]

    I think it may have been the Red Sox.

    http://s208.photobuc...

  • Jet | May 11, 2010 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment="389727"]So how excited is Teebz that the “Jets” might return to Winnipeg?

    http://sports.yahoo....
    Considering the conga line of bloody eyesore unis that the Coyotes have foisted upon us, I would welcome this heartily… provided the Jets revert to their classy looking white, blue and red threads, i.e. NO “midnight” blue, NO “blackened” blue, NO black trim… I don’t ask for much.

    -Jet

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment="389717"][quote comment="389680"][quote comment="389677"]The TRADED cards were cool, especially when – in pre-PhotoShop days – the player had his new hat color added in that velvety tone:

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    I always liked the earlier years, when they at least took a shot at “painting” the new hat (Crowe had been with the Reds the previous season).
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://www.vintageca...
    And eventually, they’d get an actual photo…
    http://caimages.coll...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So … we’ve got a Reds player traded to the Cardinals … guess we’d better color that cap blue before we put StL on there, since the Cardinals don’t wear a red cap, eh?[/quote]

    They didn’t in 1959 or 60 or 61 or…

  • Andrew Dixon | May 11, 2010 at 1:07 pm |

    Wow… I have zero recollection of that. I would never, ever have guessed that the team in question was the Red Sox.

  • NickW | May 11, 2010 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment="389717"][quote comment="389680"][quote comment="389677"]The TRADED cards were cool, especially when – in pre-PhotoShop days – the player had his new hat color added in that velvety tone:

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    I always liked the earlier years, when they at least took a shot at “painting” the new hat (Crowe had been with the Reds the previous season).
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://www.vintageca...
    And eventually, they’d get an actual photo…
    http://caimages.coll...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So … we’ve got a Reds player traded to the Cardinals … guess we’d better color that cap blue before we put StL on there, since the Cardinals don’t wear a red cap, eh?[/quote]

    Cards didn’t have a red cap back then.
    1960 Cards Uniforms

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment="389730"][quote comment="389728"]I am hoping some of the dedicated uni-watchers on here can help me out. When I was 17 going on 18, my family took a trip up to Cooperstown, and at that time, the HOF museum had just opened a vastly expanded gift shop. That offseason was the offseason during which the Mets introduced their short-lived white hats with blue brims, modeled here by Bernard Gilkey. But, at the same time, I am positive there was another team that was also introducing a white hat with an off-color brim, and I am pretty sure it was the Dodgers, and I am very sure it was just as short-lived as the Mets’ attempt at this. Does anyone else remember this? Am I crazy?[/quote]

    I think it may have been the Red Sox.

    http://s208.photobuc...
    Or possibly the Dodgers.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s the montage I made up. Guess I’d better add Reuss in all pins with the gold hat to the bunch at the lower left, huh.

    —Ricko

  • bquinn | May 11, 2010 at 1:30 pm |

    I still have my VCR Quarterback game!!

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They kept it through 1984. After then, they dropped it along with the gold and black unis. They went to grey on the road with the black hat. Same helmets (gold and black).

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 1:32 pm |

    Speaking of the Cardinals…

    Did anyone notice (and perhaps this has been discussed before I discovered UW) that in two or three of the Reuss Cardinals photos—probably taken in ’70 or so—navy blue defines the entangling of the letters in “StL” on the hat? At best, I believe, they wore that for one season. I had a meshback version of it back then. Remember thinking they probably didn’t wear it on the field, but later learned they actually did.

    —Ricko

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment="389738"][quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s the montage I made up. Guess I’d better add Reuss in all pins with the gold hat to the bunch at the lower left, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Who knows what other combos are out there, too. Remember the Indians’ 1977 white-on-blue uni from last summer?

    P.S. The black on gold uniform looked pretty good too, for its time. Much like the Steelers’. But I wouldn’t like it today. Tastes evolve, you know.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    now i see where our “disagreements” come from

    ;)

    the two i was referring to didn’t include ANY pins nor mix and match

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment="389740"][quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They kept it through 1984. After then, they dropped it along with the gold and black unis. They went to grey on the road with the black hat. Same helmets (gold and black).[/quote]

    Kinda what I figured. Don’t remember ever seeing them in black hat with black over black.

    —Ricko

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment="389733"]Wow… I have zero recollection of that. I would never, ever have guessed that the team in question was the Red Sox.[/quote]

    For a traditionalist team, the Sox sure have had a lot of changes to their unis over the years, including their current use of red and navy blue jerseys (which I think they wear only once a week, right?).

  • concealed78 | May 11, 2010 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Interesting that you should bring that up, Phil. I have the 1986 version of that game, and recently looked on ebay to see what all of my board games were fetching for. Turns out all of them were on there, with no bids & plenty of them & priced lower than what they sold for. Tho I found this 1950 version of Sorry! interesting with its old graphics:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • bquinn | May 11, 2010 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment="389707"][quote comment="389699"][quote comment="389684"][quote comment="389665"][quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: “VINTAGE 1970′S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?[/quote]

    I had that game and it was released in the early/mid 1980′s. I believe the game board was a football field and you would advance your football up and down the field. When you had the ball you would pick a card which would tell you the result of your ‘play’ and you would move the ball accordingly — there was also the ten-yard chain to indicate where you needed to go to get a first down. Some of those cards told you to set the video tape to a certain time (say 23:45) and the video would play actual NFL game footage and the result of the play you just watched would be the result of your ‘play’ on the game board. Problem was that no two VCR’s would ever count time the same way so the play at 23:45 at my house could be a 35 yard run while at my friend’s house it could be a INT for a TD (or a TAINT: Touchdown After INT.)[/quote]
    I don’t remmeber there being directions to set your VCR to a specific time. But that could be because our VCR only had the little counter that went from 0000 thru 9999 like an odometer so we ignored that option. Our VCR also didn’t have a *wireless* remote.

    I’m positive I got that game while I had a job at a grocery store in high school. So it was somewhere between 1986 and 1988[/quote]

    The VHS tape actually has a space in between each clip where you pause the tape until you draw another “VHS” card. Then you un-pause and watch the next clip for the result of the play. There are some great slow-motion classic clips on that tape from NFL Films.

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment="389743"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    now i see where our “disagreements” come from

    ;)

    the two i was referring to didn’t include ANY pins nor mix and match[/quote]

    Of course not. I’m guessing you’d take the all-gold and all-black. And in 1979, I would have joined you.

    They didn’t mix the pins with the solids back then too often, but when they did I liked it.

    One day I’ll look for proof of that all-pins affair at Shea.

  • Chip | May 11, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    I just read that the Jays have moved their home series against the Phillies to Philadelphia. The Jays will still be considered the home team and will bat last.

    I was wondering which team would wear the home uniforms for this series. Is there a precedent for this (other than the occasional make-up game)?

  • War Damn Eagle | May 11, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    Didn’t the Diamondbacks have a white alternate cap back in their early days?

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment="389744"][quote comment="389740"][quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They kept it through 1984. After then, they dropped it along with the gold and black unis. They went to grey on the road with the black hat. Same helmets (gold and black).[/quote]

    Kinda what I figured. Don’t remember ever seeing them in black hat with black over black.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Never saw them wear that either. That would be BFBS and the kids today would love it, right?

  • rpm | May 11, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    re: aO’s brain~pan protection
    it’s not murray as he never went flapless, and both his helmets are showing. two orioles who did go flapless AND wore hats under their helmet in the tri~colour era are pat kelly and ken singleton. so my money would be on one of those two, but the evil “88″ helmet of rene gonzalez is in the picture, a good clue as to the year. he played on the aO’s in 87/88 in that uni, and neither singleton or kelly played on those teams. so! my guess is that it is either terry kennedy or mickey tettleton’s catching helmet, and they are being stowed together for reasons other then batting.

    re: grey chapeaux
    hm, pirates, orioles, and royals wore them in the 90′s, that does not say much for the karma associated with them does it?

  • frankenslade | May 11, 2010 at 1:42 pm |

    I’m getting some more time to page through Reuss’ photos. This guy’s captions are have a lot of personality. From the shot of his 1971 Topps card he links to the original image used for the card, at which point he notes that he’s wearing a wool uniform, which I wouldn’t have been able to see on the softened baseball card image.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    http://www.flickr.co...

    I like the fact, too, that he at least twice tried to get cards showing him batting, succeeding with a late-’80s Fleer card.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment="389742"][quote comment="389738"][quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s the montage I made up. Guess I’d better add Reuss in all pins with the gold hat to the bunch at the lower left, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Who knows what other combos are out there, too. Remember the Indians’ 1977 white-on-blue uni from last summer?

    P.S. The black on gold uniform looked pretty good too, for its time. Much like the Steelers’. But I wouldn’t like it today. Tastes evolve, you know.[/quote]

    I created that montage to show the nine most common combinations, the nine basics that follow some sort of theme, that seem to have a set of rules for somewhat balancing the color distribution in each of them. The theme’s readily discernible. And the “variations” are just that, “variations”, exceptions to the typical plan. As were the Indians white or navy jerseys with the red pants. They wore them, but they weren’t in the standard rotation, weren’t typical. Like the odd occasion when the Titans have gone powder over powder. Or the few times the Vikings have worn the purple pants since the uni change.

    And now, for the 20-and-under contingent, a question:
    The guy posing with Willie Stargell is…
    a) Michael Dukakis
    b) Fred Rogers
    c) Ralph Nader
    d) a young Bud Selig

    —Ricko

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment="389750"]Didn’t the Diamondbacks have a white alternate cap back in their early days?[/quote]
    Yes. And I’m almost positive it was originally intended to be their primary home cap.

    The solid white lid over pinstripes was a terrible combo.

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 1:54 pm |

    Random photo that came up as I was looking for something else:

    This was a nice-looking uni.

  • Charles | May 11, 2010 at 1:56 pm |

    Paul,
    regarding the Orioles helmets-
    isn’t it possible that that is merely a flapless helmet sitting on top of another, regular-flapped helmet? That fact that it is being propped up from behind by something would make it seem that there’s gotta be a flap back there somewhere. And as someone else already mentioned, there are a couple helmets marked with Murray’s #33.

  • concealed78 | May 11, 2010 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment="389736"][quote comment="389730"][quote comment="389728"]I am hoping some of the dedicated uni-watchers on here can help me out. When I was 17 going on 18, my family took a trip up to Cooperstown, and at that time, the HOF museum had just opened a vastly expanded gift shop. That offseason was the offseason during which the Mets introduced their short-lived white hats with blue brims, modeled here by Bernard Gilkey. But, at the same time, I am positive there was another team that was also introducing a white hat with an off-color brim, and I am pretty sure it was the Dodgers, and I am very sure it was just as short-lived as the Mets’ attempt at this. Does anyone else remember this? Am I crazy?[/quote]

    I think it may have been the Red Sox.

    http://s208.photobuc...
    Or possibly the Dodgers.[/quote]

    The Diamondbacks:
    http://img96.imagesh...

    And looking at my 1999 Manny’s Baseball Land catalog, the Angels, Royals and Dodgers all had brand new white batting practice caps.

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment="389757"]Paul,
    regarding the Orioles helmets-
    isn’t it possible that that is merely a flapless helmet sitting on top of another, regular-flapped helmet? That fact that it is being propped up from behind by something would make it seem that there’s gotta be a flap back there somewhere. And as someone else already mentioned, there are a couple helmets marked with Murray’s #33.[/quote]

    A lot of players wore their caps under the helmets back then. I don’t know if most of them did. Pretty sure Willie Stargell did, for one.

  • Andy Kanzer | May 11, 2010 at 2:10 pm |

    Thanks for plugging my blog!

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 2:31 pm |

    I still have two complete working versions of this…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    We’d play it just about every night waiting at the office for WHA and World Team Tennis summaries to come in (we kept the league stats, too). Sometimes got fairly late because of the West Coast.

    They came in on the “tele-copier”…a precursor to the Fax.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 2:32 pm |

    Mine are the earlier version. Background on box cover is black.

    —Ricko

  • scott | May 11, 2010 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment="389736"]Or possibly the Dodgers.[/quote]

    Wasn’t that just a batting practice/ spring training cap? I don’t think it got use in regular season games.

  • scott | May 11, 2010 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment="389758"]And looking at my 1999 Manny’s Baseball Land catalog, the Angels, Royals and Dodgers all had brand new white batting practice caps.[/quote]

    Was that the year the Royals’ BP cap had “Royals” spelled out across the front?

  • concealed78 | May 11, 2010 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment="389764"][quote comment="389758"]And looking at my 1999 Manny’s Baseball Land catalog, the Angels, Royals and Dodgers all had brand new white batting practice caps.[/quote]

    Was that the year the Royals’ BP cap had “Royals” spelled out across the front?[/quote]

    Yes.

  • Buckeye Mike | May 11, 2010 at 3:05 pm |

    Re: E. Murry Batting Helmets.
    As someone else pointed out, EM’s 2 number 33 helmets are there. My question is, since they all seem to numbered, the “double” helmet, could that just be a couple bat boy helmets?

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 3:08 pm |

    maybe it’s just an optical illusion because the wood above it is broken, but #30 looks like an old school gazoo (size wise)…what’s that, like an 8 1/4″ skull?

  • Buckeye Mike | May 11, 2010 at 3:10 pm |

    Not sure if this is up here yet, but Vanderbilt seems to have went to the Stars and Stripes hats, and some special jersey. This is pitcher Sonny Gray and a teammate sporting them in the locker room.

    http://tweetphoto.co...

  • Bernard | May 11, 2010 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment="389754"][quote comment="389742"][quote comment="389738"][quote comment="389737"][quote comment="389735"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Nowadays, I’d take only three of them — and they all have pinstripe pants. But at the time, I loved them all. Funny, once they went with white at home in 1980, they never mixed them with any other uniforms; but they did mix the pinstripes.[/quote]

    When they went to the sans pins whites at home, in 1980. I believe that was the only uni they wore at home, with the black hats. The black and gold jerseys and pants were used exclusively on on the road.

    Okay, now, without checking (cuz I honestly don’t remember), did they keep the gold cap around for road use, too? Or did it disappear in ’80?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s the montage I made up. Guess I’d better add Reuss in all pins with the gold hat to the bunch at the lower left, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Who knows what other combos are out there, too. Remember the Indians’ 1977 white-on-blue uni from last summer?

    P.S. The black on gold uniform looked pretty good too, for its time. Much like the Steelers’. But I wouldn’t like it today. Tastes evolve, you know.[/quote]

    I created that montage to show the nine most common combinations, the nine basics that follow some sort of theme, that seem to have a set of rules for somewhat balancing the color distribution in each of them. The theme’s readily discernible. And the “variations” are just that, “variations”, exceptions to the typical plan. As were the Indians white or navy jerseys with the red pants. They wore them, but they weren’t in the standard rotation, weren’t typical. Like the odd occasion when the Titans have gone powder over powder. Or the few times the Vikings have worn the purple pants since the uni change.

    And now, for the 20-and-under contingent, a question:
    The guy posing with Willie Stargell is…
    a) Michael Dukakis
    b) Fred Rogers
    c) Ralph Nader
    d) a young Bud Selig

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Whoever it was, he sure got around…

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 3:25 pm |

    That Pirates 1975-76 uniform is sharp looking. Note on the Reuss card above that there were no stripes on the sides of the pants, unlike the later versions of the plain whites and the golds and blacks.

  • Broadway Connie | May 11, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment="389756"]Random photo that came up as I was looking for something else:

    This was a nice-looking uni.[/quote]

    Absolutely.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 3:29 pm |

    this is probably a poorly named product

  • Thomps | May 11, 2010 at 3:33 pm |

    Great video on MLB player’s techniques for breaking in their gloves. I always applied saddle soap, tossed it in the oven, then wrapped a ball inside for a few days.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • rpm | May 11, 2010 at 3:34 pm |

    you guys are denting my brain~pan. offerings like it is sitting on a flapped helmet? not a chance charles. and the double flapped helmet is the batboy without doubt, look at the size, the fact that it isn’t dirty. take it from a balti~moron…

    on the subject of this picture. for sure there are two flapless helmets sitting there, one propped on another, and perhaps there is a hat betwixt them, i am not sure that there is a hat. also, as i said earlier, pat kelly and ken singleton were the only aO’s regulars to wear a hat under a flapless, i am quite sure of this, and neither was on the team in 88 when nobody wore a flapless on the aO’s when this picture was most definitely taken. and finally, even if there is a hat betwixt the two flapless helmets, just because the hat was stowed with the helmet does not necessarily mean they will be used in conjunction. i offer this, that they are merely the catcher’s helmets. sure, kennedy previously went flapless, but not with the aO’s, his “batting” helmet is even in the picture. i would argue the numbers are on the back, or what would be the front of a couple catcher’s helmets, and these are tettleton, kennedy, and maybe nichol’s catcher’s helmets.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment="389772"]this is probably a poorly named product[/quote]

    Position of product on packaging leaves a little to be desired, too, doesn’t it.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment="389773"]Great video on MLB player’s techniques for breaking in their gloves. I always applied saddle soap, tossed it in the oven, then wrapped a ball inside for a few days.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Best way I’ve found?
    Get one of those weighted training balls (baseball or softball, depending on your sport).
    Oil up the glove really well, then play catch (a lot) with someone who throws hard. Catch the ball, every time, where you want the pocket–or the “impact point” if an OF or 1b glove–to be.

    That’s break it in better than anything.

    Next best thing?
    In the off-season, tie a ball inside your glove and submerse the whole package in water, completely, for two or three months. Take it out, let it dry, oil it up.

    Also used to be a glove softener available at K-Mart. Involved heating your oven to 400 degrees and a cookie sheet. Lots of lanolin in the product. That works really well, too. Gotta do it numerous times at first. And repeat the process during the season. Honest, works well.

    —Ricko

  • Andy Kanzer | May 11, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    Back to Warthen for a second – I’m guessing it was a gift from someone that he was showing off in the dugout. You don’t wear them indiscriminately and if he was religious enough to wear one every day we would have seen it by now and he wouldn’t be there on Saturdays.

  • Geeman | May 11, 2010 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment="389774"]you guys are denting my brain~pan. offerings like it is sitting on a flapped helmet? not a chance charles. and the double flapped helmet is the batboy without doubt, look at the size, the fact that it isn’t dirty. take it from a balti~moron…

    on the subject of this picture. for sure there are two flapless helmets sitting there, one propped on another, and perhaps there is a hat betwixt them, i am not sure that there is a hat. also, as i said earlier, pat kelly and ken singleton were the only aO’s regulars to wear a hat under a flapless, i am quite sure of this, and neither was on the team in 88 when nobody wore a flapless on the aO’s when this picture was most definitely taken. and finally, even if there is a hat betwixt the two flapless helmets, just because the hat was stowed with the helmet does not necessarily mean they will be used in conjunction. i offer this, that they are merely the catcher’s helmets. sure, kennedy previously went flapless, but not with the aO’s, his “batting” helmet is even in the picture. i would argue the numbers are on the back, or what would be the front of a couple catcher’s helmets, and these are tettleton, kennedy, and maybe nichol’s catcher’s helmets.[/quote]

    Robert, I think we finally settled this two summers ago with visual evidence (see below — Reggie’s only year in Baltimore was 1976), but just to make sure, since you are the Baltimore expert, let me ask again: Did the Orioles ever wear an orange-front helmet to go with the orange-front hat in 1975-76?

    http://www.google.co...

  • Matthew Robins | May 11, 2010 at 4:42 pm |

    Gee wiz, everyone is hoping on the TATC Bandwagon, like these pictures all of a sudden just popped up 5 minutes ago: http://sportsillustr...

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment="389779"]Gee wiz, everyone is hoping on the TATC Bandwagon, like these pictures all of a sudden just popped up 5 minutes ago: http://sportsillustr...

    Seems to me including one-and-done promotion jerseys, or throwbacks, on a list like that is just lazy.

    And stupid.

    As I’ve said before, part of the reason they wear some of them is BECAUSE they’re so goofy looking.

    Therefore, being clever enough to spot that they’re unsightly definitely will get you a No Shit, Sherlock, Thanks for Such Keen Insight. We’ve noticed toilet paper comes on a roll, too…or should we wait for you to break that news in your next column?

    —Ricko

  • Jimv19 | May 11, 2010 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment="389684"][quote comment="389665"][quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: “VINTAGE 1970′S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?[/quote]

    Wow, yet another game I had.

    That didn’t come out ’til ’85. At least that cover didn’t, because it featured the teams from Super Bowl 19.

    I may have given that to my brother. I’ll have to check.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment="389780"][quote comment="389779"]Gee wiz, everyone is hoping on the TATC Bandwagon, like these pictures all of a sudden just popped up 5 minutes ago: http://sportsillustr...

    Seems to me including one-and-done promotion jerseys, or throwbacks, on a list like that is just lazy.

    And stupid.

    As I’ve said before, part of the reason they wear some of them is BECAUSE they’re so goofy looking.

    Therefore, being clever enough to spot that they’re unsightly definitely will get you a No Shit, Sherlock, Thanks for Such Keen Insight. We’ve noticed toilet paper comes on a roll, too…or should we wait for you to break that news in your next column?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    the 25 worst list, compiled by bleacher report, and from whence that kris benson pic did not come, was the guilty one

    it was, first of all, a horrible listing, and not that the one we compiled on UW was the be all and end all, the guy just didn’t get it; loaded with grammatical and spelling mistakes, but whatever

    but what particularly struck in my craw was the pirates writeup…hello? not that i always get my facts straight, but i don’t just make shit up

    the pirates never wore that getup in pittsburgh

    i know because i saw them wear it live…at shea

    but ricko’s right about one thing — one time wearings (unless, like the seahawks, they are official alts, even if they are retired as one and dones)…like the TATC unis, really have no business on that sort of list

    and the worst uni? the tequila sunrise? really?

    didn’t try too hard, did we…a few of the other choices on there are headscratchers too, but that’s all personal opinion, i guess

  • Jimv19 | May 11, 2010 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment="389759"][quote comment="389757"]Paul,
    regarding the Orioles helmets-
    isn’t it possible that that is merely a flapless helmet sitting on top of another, regular-flapped helmet? That fact that it is being propped up from behind by something would make it seem that there’s gotta be a flap back there somewhere. And as someone else already mentioned, there are a couple helmets marked with Murray’s #33.[/quote]

    A lot of players wore their caps under the helmets back then. I don’t know if most of them did. Pretty sure Willie Stargell did, for one.[/quote]

    He did, which is why I used to wear mine under my helmet.

  • Jimv19 | May 11, 2010 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Didn’t/don’t like the yellow over pins or the pins over yellow. And that’s my favorite color, but those combos just don’t look right to me. I’d wear the other seven combos, though.

    Yellow over black, or all yellow, those were my favorites. All pins and black over yellow were next.

    They’d all look better without those pillbox hats. If I could tweak, one of my submissions would be to make the hat look like the helmet (yellow with black brim). Today’s hat would look good as well.

  • Jimv19 | May 11, 2010 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment="389784"][quote comment="389722"][quote comment="389721"]
    Cool site. Someone needs to let that guy know that there were NINE possible combos of jerseys/pants.[/quote]

    and only two of those were any good[/quote]

    Didn’t/don’t like the yellow over pins or the pins over yellow. And that’s my favorite color, but those combos just don’t look right to me. I’d wear the other seven combos, though.

    Yellow over black, or all yellow, those were my favorites. All pins and black over yellow were next.

    They’d all look better without those pillbox hats. If I could tweak, one of my submissions would be to make the hat look like the helmet (yellow with black brim). Today’s hat would look good as well.[/quote]

    Probably the reason I liked the yellow over black – nice contrast with that other team:
    http://assets.sbnati...
    That cover is hanging on my wall downstairs.

  • TC Lofton | May 11, 2010 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=\"389747\"][quote comment=\"389707\"][quote comment=\"389699\"][quote comment=\"389684\"][quote comment=\"389665\"][quote comment=\"389663\"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it\’s color vs. color???? oh right…it\’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was \”Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.\”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents\’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: \”VINTAGE 1970\’S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE\”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?[/quote]

    I had that game and it was released in the early/mid 1980\’s. I believe the game board was a football field and you would advance your football up and down the field. When you had the ball you would pick a card which would tell you the result of your \’play\’ and you would move the ball accordingly — there was also the ten-yard chain to indicate where you needed to go to get a first down. Some of those cards told you to set the video tape to a certain time (say 23:45) and the video would play actual NFL game footage and the result of the play you just watched would be the result of your \’play\’ on the game board. Problem was that no two VCR\’s would ever count time the same way so the play at 23:45 at my house could be a 35 yard run while at my friend\’s house it could be a INT for a TD (or a TAINT: Touchdown After INT.)[/quote]
    I don\’t remmeber there being directions to set your VCR to a specific time. But that could be because our VCR only had the little counter that went from 0000 thru 9999 like an odometer so we ignored that option. Our VCR also didn\’t have a *wireless* remote.

    I\’m positive I got that game while I had a job at a grocery store in high school. So it was somewhere between 1986 and 1988[/quote]

    The VHS tape actually has a space in between each clip where you pause the tape until you draw another \”VHS\” card. Then you un-pause and watch the next clip for the result of the play. There are some great slow-motion classic clips on that tape from NFL Films.[/quote]

    My brother and I had a VERY similar game that had college football clips. We bought it at Toy Liquidators in the early 90\’s, and the one standout that I remember was the abundance of Bo Jackson clips on the tape (with full PRESS PAUSE NOW instructions) although the game only referred to him as \”the halfback\”.

  • Desuko. | May 11, 2010 at 5:43 pm |

    RE: Jerry Reuss as a broadcaster –

    I got to listen to him a lot when he was doing radio broadcasts for the Dodgers with Rick Monday. However, because 1) they’re former teammates, and 2) Monday likes to talk about everything under the sun except what’s actually happening on the field, their broadcasts wound up being lots of old war stories. Great stuff, but not so great if you want to know the score or anything like that. But I would listen to a podcast by those two in a heartbeat. They were very entertaining together, and Reuss on the mic has the same spirit as in those captions. He’s a good storyteller.

  • Ricko | May 11, 2010 at 5:45 pm |

    One of my…
    MOST FAVORITEST SI COVERS FROM CHILDHOOD…

    At least two of the players went on to become managers, and the one on the far right is famous or something. ;)
    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko

  • rpm | May 11, 2010 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment="389783"][quote comment="389759"][quote comment="389757"]Paul,
    regarding the Orioles helmets-
    isn’t it possible that that is merely a flapless helmet sitting on top of another, regular-flapped helmet? That fact that it is being propped up from behind by something would make it seem that there’s gotta be a flap back there somewhere. And as someone else already mentioned, there are a couple helmets marked with Murray’s #33.[/quote]

    A lot of players wore their caps under the helmets back then. I don’t know if most of them did. Pretty sure Willie Stargell did, for one.[/quote]

    He did, which is why I used to wear mine under my helmet.[/quote]

    didn’t we all do that with out plastic batting helmets while playing the wiffleball? that is if you had the matching hat, which i had for the aO’s, and my brother had for the pirates. shit, we used to save and pool our allowance and go down to the sporting goods store once a month in the summer and pick out a new one for a $1.75. sometimes it was my pick, sometimes his. we had quite a few of those suckers after a few years.

  • Jimv19 | May 11, 2010 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment="389790"][quote comment="389783"][quote comment="389759"][quote comment="389757"]Paul,
    regarding the Orioles helmets-
    isn’t it possible that that is merely a flapless helmet sitting on top of another, regular-flapped helmet? That fact that it is being propped up from behind by something would make it seem that there’s gotta be a flap back there somewhere. And as someone else already mentioned, there are a couple helmets marked with Murray’s #33.[/quote]

    A lot of players wore their caps under the helmets back then. I don’t know if most of them did. Pretty sure Willie Stargell did, for one.[/quote]

    He did, which is why I used to wear mine under my helmet.[/quote]

    didn’t we all do that with out plastic batting helmets while playing the wiffleball? that is if you had the matching hat, which i had for the aO’s, and my brother had for the pirates. shit, we used to save and pool our allowance and go down to the sporting goods store once a month in the summer and pick out a new one for a $1.75. sometimes it was my pick, sometimes his. we had quite a few of those suckers after a few years.[/quote]

    I have the black Pirate helmet I wore when I was three. It still fits (although I can’t wear the hat underneath now), so I still wear it for wiffleball. I used to have the yellow with black bill as well, but when the Bucs went back to the black helmet I stupidly gave it away.

    I used to have a Sox helmet when I went through a little Harold Baines phase. http://cdn0.sbnation...

    Can’t remember what I wore in ’82, when I tied Maris’ home run record. I do remember copying the batting stances of Cecil Cooper and Ben Oglivie, as well as Stargell.

  • Matthew Robins | May 11, 2010 at 6:07 pm |

    If the Coyotes move back home to Winnipeg, I wonder if the team will use some smarts and bring back their last look: http://ak.buy.com/db... Or their original style http://www.biztradem...

    But, I expect a new design will be created and ruin my excitement of this potential move.

  • 5haun | May 11, 2010 at 6:09 pm |

    I used to have a white Tampa Bay Devil Rays hat with a black brim. I was 13 at the time and don’t think they ever wore it, but while looking to see if they ever did I came across this

    http://farm1.static....

    Also, am I the only one wondering how much the Rangers are selling the two-tone batting helmets for?

  • Matthew Robins | May 11, 2010 at 6:11 pm |

    If the Coyotes move back home to become the Winnipeg Jets, again, I wonder if we will be treated with their original look http://www.nfl-trade... or their last look http://www.nfl-trade... or perhaps, and what I’m expecting, a horrible redesign that will ruin my excitement of this potential move.

  • rpm | May 11, 2010 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment="389791"][quote comment="389790"][quote comment="389783"][quote comment="389759"][quote comment="389757"]Paul,
    regarding the Orioles helmets-
    isn’t it possible that that is merely a flapless helmet sitting on top of another, regular-flapped helmet? That fact that it is being propped up from behind by something would make it seem that there’s gotta be a flap back there somewhere. And as someone else already mentioned, there are a couple helmets marked with Murray’s #33.[/quote]

    A lot of players wore their caps under the helmets back then. I don’t know if most of them did. Pretty sure Willie Stargell did, for one.[/quote]

    He did, which is why I used to wear mine under my helmet.[/quote]

    didn’t we all do that with out plastic batting helmets while playing the wiffleball? that is if you had the matching hat, which i had for the aO’s, and my brother had for the pirates. shit, we used to save and pool our allowance and go down to the sporting goods store once a month in the summer and pick out a new one for a $1.75. sometimes it was my pick, sometimes his. we had quite a few of those suckers after a few years.[/quote]

    I have the black Pirate helmet I wore when I was three. It still fits (although I can’t wear the hat underneath now), so I still wear it for wiffleball. I used to have the yellow with black bill as well, but when the Bucs went back to the black helmet I stupidly gave it away.

    I used to have a Sox helmet when I went through a little Harold Baines phase. http://cdn0.sbnation...

    Can’t remember what I wore in ’82, when I tied Maris’ home run record. I do remember copying the batting stances of Cecil Cooper and Ben Oglivie, as well as Stargell.[/quote]

    we had the yellow pirate, and the all blue sox of the collar era, with regards to those tow teams. i still have my aO’s, but the brim is more pink. we did the stance copy dealio too. in fact, you HAD to mimic the player, and from the correct side of the plate too. which made teams that had henderson, murray, cooper, carew, and some others difficult. the aO’s also had jim traber who used a golfer’s grip, AND he was a hook making it more complicated.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 7:19 pm |

    had, if you can believe it, of course the mets plastic blue helmut, a SF giants one, that for some reason i had placed a yankee fleer sticker over (yeah, that looked good), and a oakland a’s lid

    i usually let the kids on teh other squad pick their team, and they ALWAYS picked the mets, so, because one other kid had a a’s cap, we were usually the a’s…

    used one of these pitchback jobs for the strike zone, and i used to put black electrical tape or masking tape i’d colored black to create a jim hunter stache

    i think one or two of us would wear some kind of cap under the helmet, but i always just wore the plain helmet at bat

    and batting stance imitations were required…i used to crack the kids up with my reggie corkscrew followthru

  • Phil | May 11, 2010 at 8:04 pm |

    Does anyone know what year the MLB-logo neck tags started?

  • StLMarty | May 11, 2010 at 8:13 pm |

    I’m watching a “30 on 30″ on ESPN called “Straight out of LA”. Ice Cube is narrating, and he directed it. It looks like James Blagden (LSD No No) did the illustrations. If it isn’t him, it’s a blatant ripoff.

  • StLMarty | May 11, 2010 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment="389798"]I’m watching a “30 on 30″ on ESPN called “Straight out of LA”. Ice Cube is narrating, and he directed it. It looks like James Blagden (LSD No No) did the illustrations. If it isn’t him, it’s a blatant ripoff.[/quote]
    Nevermind.
    It’s Blagden.
    No Mas was in on the deal.

  • JTH | May 11, 2010 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment="389797"]Does anyone know what year the MLB-logo neck tags started?[/quote]
    Pretty sure it was 2000.

  • interlockingtc | May 11, 2010 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment="389794"]If the Coyotes move back home to become the Winnipeg Jets, again, I wonder if we will be treated with their original look http://www.nfl-trade... or their last look http://www.nfl-trade... or perhaps, and what I’m expecting, a horrible redesign that will ruin my excitement of this potential move.[/quote]

    Either one would be great (I sorta like the original better–I could never see the streak in the ETS. All I saw was a clunky separation of letters. Though the newer striping is more appealing.) If this does happen, I will finally have a hockey team to cheer for since the departure of the North Stars from Minnesota. Pro hockey in Winnipeg. I hope it happens.

  • concealed78 | May 11, 2010 at 8:46 pm |

    [quote comment="389800"][quote comment="389797"]Does anyone know what year the MLB-logo neck tags started?[/quote]
    Pretty sure it was 2000.[/quote]

    Yup. Found that out on my research project.

  • Max | May 11, 2010 at 9:23 pm |

    Does anyone know the timeline of MLB uniform manufactures? I can’t even remember when Majestic got the contract, let alone when the Rawlings and Russell contracts were on.

  • JimV19 | May 11, 2010 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment="389796"]had, if you can believe it, of course the mets plastic blue helmut, a SF giants one, that for some reason i had placed a yankee fleer sticker over (yeah, that looked good), and a oakland a’s lid

    i usually let the kids on teh other squad pick their team, and they ALWAYS picked the mets, so, because one other kid had a a’s cap, we were usually the a’s…

    used one of these pitchback jobs for the strike zone, and i used to put black electrical tape or masking tape i’d colored black to create a jim hunter stache

    i think one or two of us would wear some kind of cap under the helmet, but i always just wore the plain helmet at bat

    and batting stance imitations were required…i used to crack the kids up with my reggie corkscrew followthru[/quote]

    I had a pitchback, but never used it for wiffleball. When I built the field at our current house, I used an old folding chair http://www.patiostor... with the fabric removed and draped in netting. If the ball stayed in the net it was a strike.

    Batting stance imitations were encouraged but not required. My only rule there was, if you pulled a Mike Hargrove you would be beaned and not given first base. Life’s too short for that crap.

  • LI Phil | May 11, 2010 at 10:11 pm |

    all chris carter does is catch touchdowns drive in go ahead runs in the 8th

  • J.Mack | May 11, 2010 at 10:45 pm |

    The Orioles wore their batting practice jerseys again tonight. I think it is the second time they have done it this season. Both nights have been T-shirt giveaway nights at the park. The shirts they give away have the road ‘Baltimore’ script but are orange in color.

  • Joe | May 11, 2010 at 11:57 pm |

    Juan Uribe is wearing the Zito-esqe striped socks.

  • JTH | May 12, 2010 at 12:09 am |

    Home ice, shmome ice…

  • Matthew Robins | May 12, 2010 at 12:21 am |

    [quote comment="389808"]Home ice, shmome ice…[/quote]
    Sorry buddy…

    I know you had Game 7 tickets

  • Matthew Robins | May 12, 2010 at 12:22 am |

    [quote comment="389808"]Home ice, shmome ice…[/quote]
    This may cheer you up: http://www.youtube.c... Bettman is a lying snake…

  • Brian | May 12, 2010 at 12:41 am |

    [quote comment="389793"]I used to have a white Tampa Bay Devil Rays hat with a black brim. I was 13 at the time and don’t think they ever wore it, but while looking to see if they ever did I came across this

    http://farm1.static....
    That was a St. Patrick’s Day game cap in (I wanna say) 2006. Why they wore a white cap when they already wore green caps was anyone’s guess.

  • JTH | May 12, 2010 at 12:43 am |

    [quote comment="389810"][quote comment="389808"]Home ice, shmome ice…[/quote]
    This may cheer you up: http://www.youtube.c... Bettman is a lying snake…[/quote]
    He is a “very good journalist” for not flat-out laughing in Bettman’s face during that interview.

    And I’d still have game 7 tix if the Wings had held up their end of the deal (just one more reason to hate ‘em).

  • Bill | May 12, 2010 at 12:45 am |

    [quote comment="389779"]Gee wiz, everyone is hoping on the TATC Bandwagon, like these pictures all of a sudden just popped up 5 minutes ago: http://sportsillustr...
    Here’s the sad thing – I would wear that.

  • Matthew Robins | May 12, 2010 at 1:01 am |

    [quote comment="389812"][quote comment="389810"][quote comment="389808"]Home ice, shmome ice…[/quote]
    This may cheer you up: http://www.youtube.c... Bettman is a lying snake…[/quote]
    He is a “very good journalist” for not flat-out laughing in Bettman’s face during that interview.

    Comparing the Hawks to the Coyotes is the funniest part. Am original 6 team that had a terrible owner and no talent or PR for about 3 years vs. a bankrupt team part of a failed experiment that was yanked from Canada, and now operated by the league.
    And I’d still have game 7 tix if the Wings had held up their end of the deal (just one more reason to hate ‘em).[/quote]

  • Ryan | May 12, 2010 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment="389747"][quote comment="389707"][quote comment="389699"][quote comment="389684"][quote comment="389665"][quote comment="389663"]This game is a new one, at last to me. But if it’s the “VCR Quarterback Game,” how come both players are wearing non-QB uni numbers?

    and how come it’s color vs. color???? oh right…it’s a BOARD game…those things are always accurate[/quote]

    Always thought the point of that box cover photo was “Everyone wants to be (thinks they can be?) a quarterback.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I have that game lying around my parents’ house somewhere.

    I love the eBay description: “VINTAGE 1970′S NFL VCR QUARTERBACK BOARD GAME VHS RARE”

    Right. It was a huge seller in the 70s because SO MANY FAMILIES had VHS VCRs with remote controls at the time, right?[/quote]

    I had that game and it was released in the early/mid 1980′s. I believe the game board was a football field and you would advance your football up and down the field. When you had the ball you would pick a card which would tell you the result of your ‘play’ and you would move the ball accordingly — there was also the ten-yard chain to indicate where you needed to go to get a first down. Some of those cards told you to set the video tape to a certain time (say 23:45) and the video would play actual NFL game footage and the result of the play you just watched would be the result of your ‘play’ on the game board. Problem was that no two VCR’s would ever count time the same way so the play at 23:45 at my house could be a 35 yard run while at my friend’s house it could be a INT for a TD (or a TAINT: Touchdown After INT.)[/quote]
    I don’t remmeber there being directions to set your VCR to a specific time. But that could be because our VCR only had the little counter that went from 0000 thru 9999 like an odometer so we ignored that option. Our VCR also didn’t have a *wireless* remote.

    I’m positive I got that game while I had a job at a grocery store in high school. So it was somewhere between 1986 and 1988[/quote]

    The VHS tape actually has a space in between each clip where you pause the tape until you draw another “VHS” card. Then you un-pause and watch the next clip for the result of the play. There are some great slow-motion classic clips on that tape from NFL Films.[/quote]

    I’ve got mine, too. There were no instructions about advancing your tape to a certain time on your vcr counter; just to pause the tape after certain plays. There’s also a cardboard football and uprights in the package, and IIRC, this is for physically thumping the football through the goalpost to score a FG or PAT. Correct me if I’m wrong on that part, though.
    One of my favorite things about the cover is how the 49ers fan on the right has his facemask set so high on his head that the crossbars are basically right at eye level. Probably not the best practice for a ‘skill player’ like him!

  • AgRyan04 | May 12, 2010 at 11:09 pm |

    Where can I find that Jews/Mets t-shirt?