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The Robert Harvell Files, Vol. 1

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Got a note the other day from Robert Harvell, the auction director at GUU Auctions. “Over the years I’ve collected vintage football photos, circa 1950-1970, from every corner of the net (and from mags, DVDs, newspaper clippings, etc.),” he wrote. “All told, these photos currently total around 80,000-100,000 and reside on my hard drive. I’ve decided to start sharing them with my fellow enthusiasts.” Today will be the first of several installments examining some of Robert’s images.

So:

• I’ve never seen a football player wear a belt like this one.

• How great would it be to have a copy of this Rams publication?

• You’ll never find a better view of the gold stripe that used to be on the Falcons’ helmets.

• And here’s a similarly fine view of the Cowboys’ bicentennial stripe.

• Always fun to see the NFL’s 50th-anniversary patch.

• Some very primitive facemask repair appears to have been done here. Is that duct tape or what?

• Has anyone ever chronicled (or noticed) how often a first initial is followed by a period vs. how often the initial just sits all by its lonesome?

• Painting the Little Brown Jug! Awesome photo.

This shot is from a Giants/Bears game at the Polo Grounds, 12/6/25. That’s Red Grange with the ball. Naturally, I’m more interested in the bowtie-clad ref.

• Look closely at this sideline shot of the Giants and you’ll see that their jacket clearly featured a baseball-style interlocking NY logo.

• Whoa — Jim Brown was some physical specimen. That’s from his rookie season of 1957.

White football! That’s Otto Graham playing in an AAFC night game, circa 1955.

• What’s going on here? The caption tells the interesting tale: “10/19/56 — Members of the Cleveland Browns football team demonstrate the use of the high frequency radio and the electronic helmet. Yesterday National Football League Commissioner Bert Bell pulled the fuse and banned all wireless communication devices for the rest of the season. Head coach Paul Brown gives a play to OB Ratterman via the high frequency radio. Ratterman has a receiver built into his helmet.”

• It is imperative that we find out what happened to this drum. Wouldn’t hurt to find this tuba, too.

• Three Steelers, three different outerwear styles.

• Here’s something I’d never seen before: wooden folding chairs on the sideline!

• Remember when coin tosses didn’t look like crowded conventions?

• Finally, what’s that decal on Mark Herrman’s helmet? I asked Robert, but he didn’t know. So I showed the photo to Helmet Hut honcho Curtis Worrell and he didn’t know. So he showed it to former Purdue player Bart Burrell, who said: “It’s for the Hammer Club. A motivational sticker that was awarded by the coaches. I forget what the criteria were but we all wanted one.”

That’s enough for this round. More of Robert’s stuff will be coming soon.

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Punkin’s Collector’s Corner: Remember Punkin, Brinke Guthrie’s cat? Well she’s out of a job, just like everyone else in America. Blame it on cat allergies and a rambunctious nature. So Punkin’s Corner, which debuted earlier this week, is now Collector’s Corner, and the photo you see at left is of the young Brinkester himself, back when he was a wee lad. Not quite as cute as Punkin, but he’ll do.

Before we get to Brinke’s latest round of eBay auctions, one follow-up from last time: He had mentioned that he didn’t know how these NFL mini-records were played. That prompted several readers to refer to this mini-record player, which was designed to play Matell’s mini-records. Jeff Katz still has his, in its original box — with the receipt!

Now then, here’s Brinke with his latest round of eBay picks.

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By Brinke Guthrie

Remember the time before the Internet? You couldn’t just get NFL news with a click. You had to buy your info at a newsstand, where you could find things like Prolog, an NFL-published annual. Look at the price on that thing!

In other finds:

• I think they were off on the scale of the Jets logo. Just a bit.

*Love the Carolina Cougars logo. Me, I was a Colonels guy, and then the Chaps once we moved to Dallas.

• Love the facemask on this book cover. The Flower Power stickers just top it off.

This card is great if for no other reason than the jersey stripes. And it’s marked down by $1.12!

• I love this lunchbox version of the NFL helmets.

• Always loved the NFL Big Signs, even if they did repeat the player graphics, just changing the team.

• Had one of these MLB bicentennial stickers on my bedroom window in Terrace Park, Ohio. It would NOT come off the window, and I suspect a few remnants still remain.

• Whoa, Nellie — a complete MLB Slurpee cup helmet collection!

• Here’s something you don’t often see: unused gumball helmet decals.

• Or, even better, a complete make-your-own-gumball kit! Check out the “CB” Browns logo and the odd diagonal Chargers logo.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Phillies are memorializing Robin Roberts by hanging his jersey in the dugout. They’ll also be adding a jersey patch with Roberts’s uni number, although they didn’t have that in time for yesterday afternoon’s game. … Really interesting article about the design team hired to rebrand Fox Sports. Additional images here (with thanks to Marc Swanson). … Lots of chatter about the Redskins possibly moving toward gold pants, which would be a-ok with me. … Interesting story about high-tech F1 pit crew vests here (with thanks to BJ Lanier). … Anyone know why Mikael Samuelsson wears clear tape on his gloves, and/or if any other NHLers do likewise? (As spotted by Kent Foster.) … New field surface for the Ravens. “The video on that page shows how they cut out the numbers and sew them into the field and how they put the sand/rubber in,” writes William Yurasko. “While it is interesting, we’re still talking about artificial turf. Now this is a football field.” … Lebron James is apparently already wearing No. 6 in practices (as reported by Parker Ferguson). … Latest military tribute: Georgia Tech will be wearing camo caps tonight (with thanks to Mike Rich). … Nicole Haase notes that the LSU softball team’s catcher has a very odd wristband. Looks like a football play-calling sleeve, no? Anyone know more about it? … The stirrup-to-sani ratio on these UNC-Pembroke players is perfect — perfect — except that No. 12 is wearing his backwards, grrrrr (with thanks to Nick Phillips). … Here’s a great shot of Ken Harrelson’s nickNOB and the beak that inspired it. That “W” looks more like an upside-down “M,” no? (Big thanks to Warren Humphrey..) … Someone on the Chris Creamer board posted two old newspaper items about the Cowboys’ blue jersey hex. Look here and here. The jersey redesign mentioned in the second article resulted in their blue uni changing from this to this. … Also from the Creamer board: I don’t think I’d ever seen a photo (as opposed to an illo) of the A’s 1999 TATC uniform until now. They also posted two Angels TATC shots (here’s the other one) that I hadn’t seen before. I’ve added these to my 1999 TATC set.

 

164 comments to The Robert Harvell Files, Vol. 1

  • The Jeff | May 7, 2010 at 7:28 am |

    • White football! That’s Otto Graham playing in an AAFC night game, circa 1955.

    Not quite. If it’s from 1955, that’s NFL night game. The AAFC died and the Browns joined the NFL in 1950.

    /ok, now to read the rest of the page…

  • scott | May 7, 2010 at 7:31 am |

    Are those A’s turn-ahead-the-clock jerseys black? Did the team get the idea to start wearing black jerseys because of this one-time promotion?

  • Joe Barrie | May 7, 2010 at 7:49 am |

    Regarding the “Roberts jersey”, it’s nice that they remembered the raglan sleeves, but it would have been nicer had someone used the correct font for the numbers.

  • Shane D. | May 7, 2010 at 7:54 am |

    Regarding the LSU softball picture, I remember seeing a story a few years ago about a company that has come up with basically a random number generator that allows a coach to call plays on a game-to-game basis using charts that I believe would look like that. For example, instead of having to go through a myriad of signs in the third-base coaching box, the coach can just yell “128!” For that game, on the chart 128 could mean “bunt,” so everyone is automatically on the same page. I’ve never actually seen one of those things, but I’d be willing to be it’s something along those lines.

  • Dylan | May 7, 2010 at 8:05 am |

    About the LSU player with the armband – I’ve noticed several other collegiate teams wearing them. When I was shooting our Ball State team this spring they used them quite frequently, and almost every player had them. After talking with some of the players, I discovered they use them to convey pitch types (for catchers), first and third situations, and baserunning signals. Here’s our catcher with hers:
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 8:09 am |

    couple things:

    1. redskins in gold pants? hmmm…anything’s better than the maroon, but i wonder how they’d do the striping…this would be ok, and this would be better

    but i have a feeling they’ll look like this

    2) the ticker item about the lsu catcher’s wristband — we’ve seen that before, on here

    not sure what article it was in or i’d backref it, but it was definitely discussed back in 09

  • KT | May 7, 2010 at 8:17 am |

    Knowing how much Paul likes the camouflage jersey thing:

    http://www.insidesoc...

  • Ryan B | May 7, 2010 at 8:21 am |

    [quote comment=”389195″]Are those A’s turn-ahead-the-clock jerseys black? Did the team get the idea to start wearing black jerseys because of this one-time promotion?[/quote]
    I remember seeing the game cap at the ’99 All-Star FanFest in Boston. It was definitely green.

  • Andy | May 7, 2010 at 8:31 am |

    RE: WHITE FOOTBALL! I think the bigger point here is that this is only the second photo I’ve ever found of the Browns in their original orange jerseys (and socks). I would love to see this as a throwback.

    Also, the Eagles tuba is more specifically a Sousaphone, which is usually distinguished as such from a standard tuba.

  • Erich | May 7, 2010 at 8:40 am |

    Mikael Samuelsson is probably wearing the tape on his wrists to help hold the gloves over his elbow pads. I don’t know if any other NHL’ers do it, but two guys on my team do it for that reason.

  • Johnny Bacardi | May 7, 2010 at 8:55 am |

    Great to see another Kentucky Colonels fan- my Dad and I were big fans, and we attended many a game back in the 70’s.

    I’m also a longtime Falcons fan, and I want that program cover poster sized and hanging on the wall…

  • inkracer | May 7, 2010 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”389200″]Knowing how much Paul likes the camouflage jersey thing:

    http://www.insidesoc...

    As a member of the Armed Forces (the Army) I can’t stand our current uniforms, and it bugs me when sports teams use our current “camo” to honor us, with a few exceptions..
    Mainly Panther Racing ( http://www.pantherra... )Hendrick Motorsports ( http://jayski.com/sc... ) and Stewart-Haas Racing (http://jayski.com/sc... )
    Since those 3 teams are sponsored by either The National Guard or The Army, it makes sense for them to use the “camo” design.

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”389202″]this is only the second photo I’ve ever found of the Browns in their original orange jerseys (and socks). I would love to see this as a throwback.[/quote]

    here ya go

    because you KNOW that’s how they’d do it…paint it orange and call it a throwback

  • Josh | May 7, 2010 at 9:05 am |

    I’m not sure how to feel about the shirts at the bottom of the page. On one hand, it’s nice that they’re raising money for Nashville. On the other hand the “Reebuild” thing kind of annoys me.

    http://www.thevincen...

  • Todd | May 7, 2010 at 9:08 am |

    Mikael Samuelsson is wearing a really small pair of Bauer gloves, maybe size 12″. There isn’t a lot of padding above the wrists and the tape is probably keeping the padding more together helping to protect the wrists. My guess is he has small hands and/or likes a very, very tight fitting glove. FYI, clear hockey tape is “stretchy” compared to the colored tape which would be similar to masking tape.

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment=”389207″]I’m not sure how to feel about the shirts at the bottom of the page. On one hand, it’s nice that they’re raising money for Nashville. On the other hand the “Reebuild” thing kind of annoys me.

    http://www.thevincen...

    the apostrophe catastrophe annoys all of us

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 9:13 am |

    Whoa! Check out the size of the Fleur de Lis here and compare with this.

  • Hank | May 7, 2010 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”389196″]Regarding the “Roberts jersey”, it’s nice that they remembered the raglan sleeves, but it would have been nicer had someone used the correct font for the numbers.[/quote]

    The font looks the same. Compare with the pic mid-way down the page from his website http://www.robinrobe...

  • Elena | May 7, 2010 at 9:17 am |

    UNC baseball catchers have been wearing the wrist bands with a ‘cheat sheet’ on how to pitch certain batters for a few years. Looks weird when they wear them at bat too, but current catcher Jacob Stallings sometimes does [sorry–no photo].

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 9:17 am |

    That can’t possibly be a cigarette, could it?

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 9:22 am |

    Wow! TWO examples of awesome stripes on an Eagles jersey in one day!

  • The Jeff | May 7, 2010 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”389202″]RE: WHITE FOOTBALL! I think the bigger point here is that this is only the second photo I’ve ever found of the Browns in their original orange jerseys (and socks). I would love to see this as a throwback.

    [/quote]

    No thanks.

    http://img517.images...

    The Bengals should be wearing orange. The Browns should wear… wait for it…. BROWN.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 9:32 am |

    Maybe I haven’t been paying attention all these years, but I don’t seem to recall ever seeing players seated on a wooden platform on an NFL sideline before I saw this. Is it a Kezar Stadium thing or was it pretty common around the league back then?

    One other weird thing about that program… it’s from Kezar, but the title lists the Niners first as if they were the away team.

  • Ryne | May 7, 2010 at 9:35 am |

    Regarding the LSU catcher wristband…

    I caught for a DII/DI team for four years and the last two seasons I played the other catcher and I would wear those during games. The wristband is a QB wristband that has a card in it. The card is split into 6 sections of 16 or 25 blocks each. Each section is numbered 0-5. Each section has a different pitch, location, or pickoff play in it. The coach will give a series of 4 or 5 numbers, three of which will be live. The first number will tell you which block to go to, and then the other two will tell you what location in that block to use. The goal is that the system is supposedly unbreakable. Some schools will even have a pitcher write down the opposing schools numbers to see if they ever repeat.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”389213″]That can’t possibly be a cigarette, could it?[/quote]

    NFL coaches used to smoke on the sidelines all the time. Quite common. Norm Van Brocklin, both in Minnesota and Atlanta, probably was the heaviest smoker among them. Van Brocklin once said he hated artifical turf because there was nowhere to put out his cigaratte.

    Not saying that’s a heater in that photo…could be Tootsie Pop (seen a photo of Joe Pepitone that looks he smokin… ’til you look closely and can see it’s a sucker of some kind),

    —Ricko

  • TommyD | May 7, 2010 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”389213″]That can’t possibly be a cigarette, could it?[/quote]

    it certainly is

    smoking was acceptable everywhere not so long ago

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”389214″]Wow! TWO examples of awesome stripes on an Eagles jersey in one day![/quote]

    I have photo that is my favorite shot of that uni. Tim Brown carrying the ball against (I believe) the Browns at Franklin Field. I’ll dig it out, scan it and post it this afternoon when I get home. Maybe 3:30 CDT.

    It’s a really good look at the uni…a stripe fest, if you will.

    —Ricko

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”389218″]NFL coaches used to smoke on the sidelines all the time. Quite common. Norm Van Brocklin, both in Minnesota and Atlanta, probably was the heaviest smoker among them. Van Brocklin once said he hated artifical turf because there was nowhere to put out his cigaratte.

    Not saying that’s a heater in that photo…could be Tootsie Pop (seen a photo of Joe Pepitone that looks he smokin… ’til you look closely and can see it’s a sucker of some kind),

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Just seems so odd to see someone with a coffin nail on the sideline. I came up in the 70s, so I was on the tail end of when one could smoke in public without being made a pariah.

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”389194″]• White football! That’s Otto Graham playing in an AAFC night game, circa 1955.

    Not quite. If it’s from 1955, that’s NFL night game. The AAFC died and the Browns joined the NFL in 1950.

    /ok, now to read the rest of the page…[/quote]
    Yeah, and it sure looks like the other team is the Bears.

    But the Bears & Browns didn’t play in 1955.

    Maybe the pic was really from 1954. (Or possibly the 1955 preseason?)

    Also, if those are indeed orange jerseys the Browns are wearing (sure looks like the jerseys and the helmets are the same color and they’re darker than the pants), according to Timmy B’s research page, in 1953, the Browns “may have worn orange jersey with brown numerals for night game with sleeve stripes of brown-white-brown-white-brown; white pants with orange-brown-orange stripe combo”. But the Browns & Bears didn’t play in 1953 (regular season), either.

  • bobwool | May 7, 2010 at 10:17 am |

    “Really interesting article about the design team hired to rebrand Fox Sports. Additional images here (with thanks to Marc Swanson).”

    Too bad they couldn’t convince them to ditch the stupid robot. I can’t stand that stupid thing.

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 10:18 am |

    Could this repair job be thanks to gaffer’s tape?

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”389215″]The Bengals should be wearing orange. The Browns should wear… wait for it…. BROWN.[/quote]

    Agreed. I pray the Browns never again wear those orange things. I’m not a fan of lighter color helmets matched with the same color jersey unless both are white. Dark colors work much better (Redskins, Bears, Vikings, etc.) when matching helmet to jersey. Imagine the Chargers with a powder blue helmet/jersey combo or if the Bucs (in the Creamsicle days) went orange on orange. Yeesh.

  • skott daltonic | May 7, 2010 at 10:19 am |

    i have to say, the TATC jerseys that the Angels are wearing in those pix look pretty godamn good!

    i actually like them a lot!

  • Bernard | May 7, 2010 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”389222″][quote comment=”389194″]• White football! That’s Otto Graham playing in an AAFC night game, circa 1955.

    Not quite. If it’s from 1955, that’s NFL night game. The AAFC died and the Browns joined the NFL in 1950.

    /ok, now to read the rest of the page…[/quote]
    Yeah, and it sure looks like the other team is the Bears.

    But the Bears & Browns didn’t play in 1955.

    Maybe the pic was really from 1954. (Or possibly the 1955 preseason?)

    Also, if those are indeed orange jerseys the Browns are wearing (sure looks like the jerseys and the helmets are the same color and they’re darker than the pants), according to Timmy B’s research page, in 1953, the Browns “may have worn orange jersey with brown numerals for night game with sleeve stripes of brown-white-brown-white-brown; white pants with orange-brown-orange stripe combo”. But the Browns & Bears didn’t play in 1953 (regular season), either.[/quote]

    I don’t know what year or league that picture represents. What I DO know is that #7 looks like he’s doing the pee pee dance.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 10:28 am |

    Boy, these Dolphins jerseys are so much nicer than these… and a damn sight better than these.

  • Andy | May 7, 2010 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”389215″][quote comment=”389202″]RE: WHITE FOOTBALL! I think the bigger point here is that this is only the second photo I’ve ever found of the Browns in their original orange jerseys (and socks). I would love to see this as a throwback.

    [/quote]

    No thanks.

    http://img517.images...

    The Bengals should be wearing orange. The Browns should wear… wait for it…. BROWN.[/quote]

    If the Browns were named after a color, I’d tend to agree with you, but since their namesake is a person, I don’t think they need to be shoehorned into wearing brown.

    Once a year, it would rock, as long as they did it correctly, with the brown numbers and orange socks with the brown and white stripes. They just screwed it up big time when they first introduced the orange jersey earlier this decade. Those white numbers with the brown drop shadow were pretty offensive.

    Another Browns’ throwback I’d like to see is the original 1946 duds which featured a white helmet and brown numerals with an orange shadow.

    It’s not really that I like any of these looks better than what the Browns currently wear, but I would like to see them on the field once a year.

  • The Ol Goaler | May 7, 2010 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”389194″]• White football! That’s Otto Graham playing in an AAFC night game, circa 1955.

    Not quite. If it’s from 1955, that’s NFL night game. The AAFC died and the Browns joined the NFL in 1950.

    /ok, now to read the rest of the page…[/quote]
    The other tipoff that the picture’s not from the AAFC is that Graham wore #60 in the AAFC (no rules for “eligible receiver” numbers in that league) and had to switch to #14 when the Browns joined the NFL, to conform to the older league’s numbering rules. Marion Motley switched to #36 for the same reason.

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”389227″]I don’t know what year or league that picture represents. What I DO know is that #7 looks like he’s doing the pee pee dance./quote]
    Thanks, Jason. That is a fantastic observation. I can’t believe I overlooked that one.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”389221″][quote comment=”389218″]NFL coaches used to smoke on the sidelines all the time. Quite common. Norm Van Brocklin, both in Minnesota and Atlanta, probably was the heaviest smoker among them. Van Brocklin once said he hated artifical turf because there was nowhere to put out his cigaratte.

    Not saying that’s a heater in that photo…could be Tootsie Pop (seen a photo of Joe Pepitone that looks he smokin… ’til you look closely and can see it’s a sucker of some kind),

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Just seems so odd to see someone with a coffin nail on the sideline. I came up in the 70s, so I was on the tail end of when one could smoke in public without being made a pariah.[/quote]

    I read somewhere recently that in the 1950s, 53% of the American population smoked. That’s of everyone, so if you take out the children, the percentage of adults who smoked was extraordinarily high. There were, maybe, 20-some families with kids on my block in the ’50s. I remember that only my mother and the mother of one of my buddies were the only two parents who didn’t smoke.

    And you’re right about the pariah aspect. I’ve smoked, quit for eight years, started again five years ago. And no matter which I was, smoker or non-smoker, I hated the people who regarded it as a moral decision. Baloney. It’s a health decision. Smokers are not immoral people.

    Which led me to one of my better observations. The previous generation had to deal with the arrogance of its “holier than thou” people. The following generations deal with the snooty “healthier than thou” crowd.

    Plus, I wish I had a dollar for everyone I’ve heard say, “I’m allergic to cigarette smoke” when the truth was, “I think it’s stinky.”

    Jeez, I know it’s stinky. I’m not stupid. Just level with me and I’ll move away from you. Don’t trump up some bullshit about your “allergy.”

    —Ricko

  • Jeff | May 7, 2010 at 10:39 am |

    Paul says: “How great would it be to have a copy of this Rams publication?”

    That actually is the annual league publication that’s become the thick “NFL Record and Fact Book.”

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 10:39 am |

    Crap. Screwed up the quote tag.

    Well, this is too important to let that stand as-is…

    [quote comment=”389227″]
    I don’t know what year or league that picture represents. What I DO know is that #7 looks like he’s doing the pee pee dance.[/quote]
    Thanks, Jason. That is a fantastic observation. I can’t believe I overlooked that one.

  • yeek | May 7, 2010 at 10:44 am |

    The Loyola (green and white) and Georgetown (blue and silver) women’s lacrose teams were wearing orange armbands yesterday to memorialize Yeardley Love, who was murdered last Sunday night/Monday morning. At least one player was wearing an orange headband with the number 1 on it.

    As for the A’s TATC — I thought that was a separate promotion … didn’t the As, Angels, and Mariners do something previous to the Century 21 promotion?

  • M.Princip | May 7, 2010 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”389232″][quote comment=”389221″][quote comment=”389218″]NFL coaches used to smoke on the sidelines all the time. Quite common. Norm Van Brocklin, both in Minnesota and Atlanta, probably was the heaviest smoker among them. Van Brocklin once said he hated artifical turf because there was nowhere to put out his cigaratte.

    Not saying that’s a heater in that photo…could be Tootsie Pop (seen a photo of Joe Pepitone that looks he smokin… ’til you look closely and can see it’s a sucker of some kind),

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Just seems so odd to see someone with a coffin nail on the sideline. I came up in the 70s, so I was on the tail end of when one could smoke in public without being made a pariah.[/quote]

    I read somewhere recently that in the 1950s, 53% of the American population smoked. That’s of everyone, so if you take out the children, the percentage of adults who smoked was extraordinarily high. There were, maybe, 20-some families with kids on my block in the ’50s. I remember that only my mother and the mother of one of my buddies were the only two parents who didn’t smoke.

    And you’re right about the pariah aspect. I’ve smoked, quit for eight years, started again five years ago. And no matter which I was, smoker or non-smoker, I hated the people who regarded it as a moral decision. Baloney. It’s a health decision. Smokers are not immoral people.

    Which led me to one of my better observations. The previous generation had to deal with the arrogance of its “holier than thou” people. The following generations deal with the snooty “healthier than thou” crowd.

    Plus, I wish I had a dollar for everyone I’ve heard say, “I’m allergic to cigarette smoke” when the truth was, “I think it’s stinky.”

    Jeez, I know it’s stinky. I’m not stupid. Just level with me and I’ll move away from you. Don’t trump up some bullshit about your “allergy.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    This is why I love Ricko.

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”389226″]i have to say, the TATC jerseys that the Angels are wearing in those pix look pretty godamn good!

    i actually like them a lot![/quote]

    “sir, i’m going to have to ask you to leave.”

    “leave?”

    “yes. you go there

  • yeek | May 7, 2010 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”389223″]”Really interesting article about the design team hired to rebrand Fox Sports. Additional images here (with thanks to Marc Swanson).”

    Too bad they couldn’t convince them to ditch the stupid robot. I can’t stand that stupid thing.[/quote]

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Bernard | May 7, 2010 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”389234″]Crap. Screwed up the quote tag.

    Well, this is too important to let that stand as-is…

    [quote comment=”389227″]
    I don’t know what year or league that picture represents. What I DO know is that #7 looks like he’s doing the pee pee dance.[/quote]
    Thanks, Jason. That is a fantastic observation. I can’t believe I overlooked that one.[/quote]

    That’s what I’m here for, James.

  • yeek | May 7, 2010 at 10:47 am |

    I take it back.

    This is the one:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • M.Princip | May 7, 2010 at 10:53 am |

    Totally diggin’ the Robert Harvell files. I had no idea that the Uniwatch was having such an installment, and I just talked to Robert yesterday. Very humble and genuine you are Mr.Harvell.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”389232″]I read somewhere recently that in the 1950s, 53% of the American population smoked. That’s of everyone, so if you take out the children, the percentage of adults who smoked was extraordinarily high. There were, maybe, 20-some families with kids on my block in the ’50s. I remember that only my mother and the mother of one of my buddies were the only two parents who didn’t smoke.

    And you’re right about the pariah aspect. I’ve smoked, quit for eight years, started again five years ago. And no matter which I was, smoker or non-smoker, I hated the people who regarded it as a moral decision. Baloney. It’s a health decision. Smokers are not immoral people.

    Which led me to one of my better observations. The previous generation had to deal with the arrogance of its “holier than thou” people. The following generations deal with the snooty “healthier than thou” crowd.

    Plus, I wish I had a dollar for everyone I’ve heard say, “I’m allergic to cigarette smoke” when the truth was, “I think it’s stinky.”

    Jeez, I know it’s stinky. I’m not stupid. Just level with me and I’ll move away from you. Don’t trump up some bullshit about your “allergy.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    A more spot-on post I could not make. I recall when I was a kid, I’d be sitting in the back seat of Dad’s ’72 Chevy Imapala on a long road trip while he, my mom and my brother were all puffing away… with the windows up.

    Amen to the “Healthier than Thou” comment as well. As a guy who’s put on a pound or two… or 85 since my fightin’ weight of 190 from 20 years ago, it honks me off when people insinuate that I’m a bad person just ’cause I order a cheeseburger with a side of cheeseburger instead of a field greens salad with raspberry vinaigrette.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 11:11 am |

    Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.

    Speaking of other pariahs…

    Wonder how Jamarcus “I Got the Money” Russell would look in teal and lime green. A little like mucus, you say? Guess wouldn’t be much different from how he looked in silver and black then, huh.

    Hey, JaMucus Russell. Not bad.

    —Ricko

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”389243″]Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Would those behaviors include such things as inappropriate behavior with the ladies and motorcycle crashes?

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”389243″]Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.
    [/quote]

    it’s not a rumor

    SI has penned his epitaph

  • pok | May 7, 2010 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”389245″][quote comment=”389243″]Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.
    [/quote]

    it’s not a rumor

    SI has penned his epitaph[/quote]

    (nice tombstone)
    http://nicepickcowhe...

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 11:23 am |

    A question (for the legal eagles here) regarding American Needle vs. NFL, and that business about whether the NFL is one organization or a bunch of separate organizations.

    Yesterday a Minnesota Judge I believe ruled that Kevin and Pat Williams ARE, in fact, employees of the NFL rather than of the Vikings.

    Will that ruling have any bearing on the American Needle case?

    —Ricko

  • scott | May 7, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”389226″]i have to say, the TATC jerseys that the Angels are wearing in those pix look pretty godamn good!

    i actually like them a lot![/quote]

    The caps would make for a nice turn back the clock event someday, but the jerseys? Not seeing it.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”389246″][quote comment=”389245″][quote comment=”389243″]Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.
    [/quote]

    Was thinking it hit newsstands today, yes.

    —Ricko
    it’s not a rumor

    SI has penned his epitaph[/quote]

    (nice tombstone)
    http://nicepickcowhe...

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”389247″]Yesterday a Minnesota Judge I believe ruled that Kevin and Pat Williams ARE, in fact, employees of the NFL rather than of the Vikings.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Didn’t the NFL argue that the teams are separate entities in order to contest the antitrust suits filed against it, or do I have that backward?

  • Giancarlo | May 7, 2010 at 11:40 am |

    Baseball skipper Jim Leyland smoked in the dugout right up till when, the late 1990s?

    Thanks for all the amazing football pictures – I could look at that stuff all day. (I used to own that ’76 NFL lunchbox!)

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”389250″][quote comment=”389247″]Yesterday a Minnesota Judge I believe ruled that Kevin and Pat Williams ARE, in fact, employees of the NFL rather than of the Vikings.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Didn’t the NFL argue that the teams are separate entities in order to contest the antitrust suits filed against it, or do I have that backward?[/quote]

    That’s what I thought, so in Minnesota they were arguing just the opposite?

    And WON the argument. Hence, my question. Would that tend to weaken their stance in the other case/ You wouldn’t it?

    Depends on the issue at hand, I suppose.

    (Man, there’s never a lawyer around when you need one.)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”389251″]Baseball skipper Jim Leyland smoked in the dugout right up till when, the late 1990s?

    Thanks for all the amazing football pictures – I could look at that stuff all day. (I used to own that ’76 NFL lunchbox!)[/quote]

    I remember a network telecast using a long lens to show Hank Aaron sitting in the dugout in the mid-70’s, a season or so after he’d passed Ruth. Announcers were talking about what a credit to game he was, when up comes his right hand and he takes a huge drag. Strangely, announcers never mentioned it, and the director quickly cut away from the shot.

    Wonder why that was. ;)

    —Ricko

  • Ronnie Poore | May 7, 2010 at 11:52 am |

    in one of those Cowboys “blue jersey jinx” articles, it is mentioned that they considered silver jerseys and white pants. i did a little mock-up…whaddya think?:
    http://s5.photobucke...

  • Andy | May 7, 2010 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”389252″][quote comment=”389250″][quote comment=”389247″]Yesterday a Minnesota Judge I believe ruled that Kevin and Pat Williams ARE, in fact, employees of the NFL rather than of the Vikings.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Didn’t the NFL argue that the teams are separate entities in order to contest the antitrust suits filed against it, or do I have that backward?[/quote]

    That’s what I thought, so in Minnesota they were arguing just the opposite?

    And WON the argument. Hence, my question. Would that tend to weaken their stance in the other case/ You wouldn’t it?

    Depends on the issue at hand, I suppose.

    (Man, there’s never a lawyer around when you need one.)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    If I recall correctly, American Needle was trying to prove that the NFL is 32 separate entities that should each be allowed to sign contracts with their own suppliers, so I think you do have it backwards. The NFL wants to be seen as one entity so it can sign those big time exclusive deals that cover all the teams under its corporate umbrella.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”389251″]Thanks for all the amazing football pictures – I could look at that stuff all day. (I used to own that ’76 NFL lunchbox!)[/quote]

    I had that one too! Was my fave until it fell apart… literally. LOVED that it had the two new teams, the Bucs and Seahawks… Bucs in AFC and Seahawks in NFC (v.1).

    When you said “I could look at that stuff all day,” it made me think that things like those photos, NFL Films and the halftime hilites on MNF back in the ’70s were very inspirational to me as a young athlete. Those images of guys like Chuck Foreman, Larry Csonka, and yes, even The Juice made me want to go out and smash through defensive tackles. Who’d have thunk that when I was finally able to play organized tackle football, they’d make me a defensive tackle?

  • Dan | May 7, 2010 at 11:56 am |

    Damn, I had that NFL Lunchbox in 2nd grade! 70 bucks……….wow!

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 11:57 am |

    So NFL benefits from the ruling yesterday, possibly.

    That’s what I was wondering.

    —Ricko

  • GoTerriers | May 7, 2010 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”389251″]Baseball skipper Jim Leyland smoked in the dugout right up till when, the late 1990s?

    Thanks for all the amazing football pictures – I could look at that stuff all day. (I used to own that ’76 NFL lunchbox!)[/quote]
    Jim Leyland smoked in the dugout until right about last week, when a Detroit (or maybe Michigan) law made smoking in the workplace illegal.

    Smokey Jim has agreed that he will comply with the law.
    (sorry, no linky – I’m lousy at the tags – didn’t we used to have idiot buttons for stuff like that?)

  • Andy | May 7, 2010 at 11:59 am |

    And in the Minnesota case, they also want to be seen as the parent (of which the Vikings are a subsidiary of sorts) because if the Williamses work for the Vikings, they are bound by Minnesota law, which would most likely void their suspensions. If they work for the NFL, I would think they would be more likely to be bound by New York law, which might allow the suspensions to hold up.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”389255″]If I recall correctly, American Needle was trying to prove that the NFL is 32 separate entities that should each be allowed to sign contracts with their own suppliers, so I think you do have it backwards. The NFL wants to be seen as one entity so it can sign those big time exclusive deals that cover all the teams under its corporate umbrella.[/quote]

    Yeah, that’s what I was saying. I was pointing out their hypocrisy. To the best of my knowledge, the NFL argued that they were X amount of separate entities in order to dodge the antitrust suits, but now they’re arguing the opposite. The legal system’s giving them cake then letting them eat it too.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”389260″]And in the Minnesota case, they also want to be seen as the parent (of which the Vikings are a subsidiary of sorts) because if the Williamses work for the Vikings, they are bound by Minnesota law, which would most likely void their suspensions. If they work for the NFL, I would think they would be more likely to be bound by New York law, which might allow the suspensions to hold up.[/quote]

    And yesterday he ruled they ARE league employees.
    That the NFL did, in fact, violate Minnesota law but the players were in no way harmed by that fact.

    In other words, they’re probably gonna get suspended…
    http://www.startribu...

    —Ricko

  • Giancarlo | May 7, 2010 at 12:05 pm |

    Re: NFL lunchbox, I remember I could point to each helmet on it & name that team’s starting quarterback. Don’t think I’ve been able to do that for 25 years or more. But yeah, items like that created great brand identification among kids as well as inspiring appreciation of “athletics aesthetics.”

  • mike 2 | May 7, 2010 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”389255″]
    If I recall correctly, American Needle was trying to prove that the NFL is 32 separate entities that should each be allowed to sign contracts with their own suppliers, so I think you do have it backwards. The NFL wants to be seen as one entity so it can sign those big time exclusive deals that cover all the teams under its corporate umbrella.[/quote]

    That’s American Needle’s position but not for that reason.

    American Needle is saying the NFL is 32 separate entities because (under antitrust law) 32 entities may not be allowed to collude to sign an exclusive agreement.

    If the NFL is a single entity (which is their position) they can sign an exclusive agreement because its not collusion (you can’t collude with yourself).

  • Nutriaitch | May 7, 2010 at 12:13 pm |

    about the LSU softball cather’s wristband.

    Micah Gibbs, LSU’s baseball catcher also wears one

    http://i38.photobuck...

  • mike 2 | May 7, 2010 at 12:20 pm |

    The StarCaps decision is here.

    http://www.courts.st...

    The relevant finding is that “Defendant NFL is Plaintiffs Kevin Williams and Pat Williams‟s employer for purposes of DATWA.” – page 15-22.

    My only comment (I’m a lawyer but not a US lawyer) is that the test the judge employed to consider whether the NFL or the Vikings is an employment law test.

    The same test they would use to see if you’re an employee or an independent contractor.

    I don’t think the same test would apply in American Needle. The court here was looking at employment conditions and the fact that the NFL and not the teams mandates employment conditions for players.

    This is probably not relevant to whether it acts as a single enterprise for antitrust purposes. Antitrust law has its own set of tests, not the same as employment law.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”389263″]Re: NFL lunchbox, I remember I could point to each helmet on it & name that team’s starting quarterback. Don’t think I’ve been able to do that for 25 years or more. But yeah, items like that created great brand identification among kids as well as inspiring appreciation of “athletics aesthetics.”[/quote]

    Here’s something else that created great brand identity for the NFL. This book was the most popular thing in my room for a loooong time. They had helmets splashed all over the place, logo, fun facts, activities, games, puzzles… a lot of fun for a couple of bucks from the bookmobile!

    It had these pages that were perforated into four sections with each showing a particular teams’ helmet and a generic player dressed in the uniform (I think some were featured here on UW a while back). There were also illustrations of a player in a uniform from the ’20s and a modern player in his uniform to show the advances in uni-tech. VERY cool stuff for a 12-year old and went a long way toward establishing my aesthetic connection with the NFL.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”389266″]The StarCaps decision is here.

    http://www.courts.st...

    The relevant finding is that “Defendant NFL is Plaintiffs Kevin Williams and Pat Williams‟s employer for purposes of DATWA.” – page 15-22.

    My only comment (I’m a lawyer but not a US lawyer) is that the test the judge employed to consider whether the NFL or the Vikings is an employment law test.

    The same test they would use to see if you’re an employee or an independent contractor.

    I don’t think the same test would apply in American Needle. The court here was looking at employment conditions and the fact that the NFL and not the teams mandates employment conditions for players.

    This is probably not relevant to whether it acts as a single enterprise for antitrust purposes. Antitrust law has its own set of tests, not the same as employment law.[/quote]

    There ya go. That’s what I wondering, whether yesterday’s rulings were in any way germane to the American Needle litigation.

  • Ryan B | May 7, 2010 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”389235″]The Loyola (green and white) and Georgetown (blue and silver) women’s lacrose teams were wearing orange armbands yesterday to memorialize Yeardley Love, who was murdered last Sunday night/Monday morning. At least one player was wearing an orange headband with the number 1 on it.

    As for the A’s TATC — I thought that was a separate promotion … didn’t the As, Angels, and Mariners do something previous to the Century 21 promotion?[/quote]
    The Mariners and Royals did. I think Paul did a write-up on ESPN for that one.

  • KT | May 7, 2010 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”389264″]American Needle is saying the NFL is 32 separate entities because (under antitrust law) 32 entities may not be allowed to collude to sign an exclusive agreement.[/quote]

    With the exception of the TV contracts, which were specifically okayed by the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961.

  • The Jeff | May 7, 2010 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”389225″]Imagine the Chargers with a powder blue helmet/jersey combo…[/quote]

    I don’t know… I could get used to this:
    http://img691.images...

    (sorry, I truly had nothing better to do)

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 12:41 pm |

    Here’s one of those uniform pages from the “NFL Fun Book.”

    Funny how the color of the facemask in the helmet illustration for the Bills and Falcons don’t match what the players are wearing. The Bills and Falcons players also have turf shoes while the others are in spikes.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”389268″]There ya go. That’s what I wondering, whether yesterday’s rulings were in any way germane to the American Needle litigation.[/quote]

    “The G**D**N Germans got nothin’ to do with it!”

  • timmy b | May 7, 2010 at 12:46 pm |

    The shot of Otto Graham in orange romping in the dark with the white football tucked in the crick of his arm…

    The opponent is definitely the Bears (#7 I do believe is the notorious Ed Sprinkle). It is definitely in the preseason and I am deducting that it is from one of two games:

    9/18/54 at Cleveland or
    9/15/55 at Chicago in Soldier Field

    a good source for preseason or exhibition game scores is http://www.profootba...

  • Paul Lukas | May 7, 2010 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”389269″][quote comment=”389235″]The Loyola (green and white) and Georgetown (blue and silver) women’s lacrose teams were wearing orange armbands yesterday to memorialize Yeardley Love, who was murdered last Sunday night/Monday morning. At least one player was wearing an orange headband with the number 1 on it.

    As for the A’s TATC — I thought that was a separate promotion … didn’t the As, Angels, and Mariners do something previous to the Century 21 promotion?[/quote]
    The Mariners and Royals did. I think Paul did a write-up on ESPN for that one.[/quote]

    The 1999 Century 21 promotion was based on a one-off promotion conducted by the Mariners the previous season. Details here:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Justin Bates | May 7, 2010 at 12:51 pm |

    The Cubs made a (desperation, way too early, let’s start thinking about next season) transaction today, by recalling star prospect Starlin Castro up to the big league club. He’s supposed to make his debut tonight in Cincinnati. Wonder what uniform number he’ll wear. He’s been wearing 13 in the minors.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”389273″][quote comment=”389268″]There ya go. That’s what I wondering, whether yesterday’s rulings were in any way germane to the American Needle litigation.[/quote]

    “The G**D**N Germans got nothin’ to do with it!”[/quote]

    The film is on many $7.50 or $5 racks these days.
    If you haven’t seen it, pop for the money and watch.
    Seriously. Funny frickin’ movie.

    “You sounded…taller…on the radio.”

    “There is NO way you coulda come from MY loins!”

    —Ricko

  • Squiddie | May 7, 2010 at 1:14 pm |

    Anyone want a photo of Connie Mack from his playing days? It’s for sale on eBay.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”389278″]Anyone want a photo of Connie Mack from his playing days? It’s for sale on eBay.[/quote]

    Huh… I’d have thought he played in a suit and straw boater.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”389277″]”You sounded…taller…on the radio.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That was one of the funniest lines in that movie… and that’s saying a LOT. Gleason was a friggin’ genius.

  • Andy | May 7, 2010 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”389264″][quote comment=”389255″]
    If I recall correctly, American Needle was trying to prove that the NFL is 32 separate entities that should each be allowed to sign contracts with their own suppliers, so I think you do have it backwards. The NFL wants to be seen as one entity so it can sign those big time exclusive deals that cover all the teams under its corporate umbrella.[/quote]

    That’s American Needle’s position but not for that reason.

    American Needle is saying the NFL is 32 separate entities because (under antitrust law) 32 entities may not be allowed to collude to sign an exclusive agreement.

    If the NFL is a single entity (which is their position) they can sign an exclusive agreement because its not collusion (you can’t collude with yourself).[/quote]

    So, basically, exactly what I said, except with the word ‘collusion’ added in there a few times? ;-)

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”389280″][quote comment=”389277″]”You sounded…taller…on the radio.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That was one of the funniest lines in that movie… and that’s saying a LOT. Gleason was a friggin’ genius.[/quote]

    this happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin’ around with those show folk fags

  • Jet | May 7, 2010 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”389220″][quote comment=”389214″]Wow! TWO examples of awesome stripes on an Eagles jersey in one day![/quote]

    I have photo that is my favorite shot of that uni. Tim Brown carrying the ball against (I believe) the Browns at Franklin Field. I’ll dig it out, scan it and post it this afternoon when I get home. Maybe 3:30 CDT.

    It’s a really good look at the uni…a stripe fest, if you will.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    BOTH the Eagles and ‘Skins unis in that color pic are just so freakin’…. righteous.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”389282″][quote comment=”389280″][quote comment=”389277″]”You sounded…taller…on the radio.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That was one of the funniest lines in that movie… and that’s saying a LOT. Gleason was a friggin’ genius.[/quote]

    this happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin’ around with those show folk fags[/quote]

    LMAO! I stand corrected.

  • Paul Barrett | May 7, 2010 at 1:55 pm |

    I’m looking for designing football socks for a local high school team. Anyone know a good company out there that allows customization?

    A quick google search led me to a lot of stock companies and not a lot of custom shops..

  • DenverGregg | May 7, 2010 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”389221″][quote comment=”389218″]NFL coaches used to smoke on the sidelines all the time. Quite common. Norm Van Brocklin, both in Minnesota and Atlanta, probably was the heaviest smoker among them. Van Brocklin once said he hated artifical turf because there was nowhere to put out his cigaratte.

    Not saying that’s a heater in that photo…could be Tootsie Pop (seen a photo of Joe Pepitone that looks he smokin… ’til you look closely and can see it’s a sucker of some kind),

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Just seems so odd to see someone with a coffin nail on the sideline. I came up in the 70s, so I was on the tail end of when one could smoke in public without being made a pariah.[/quote]
    Tommy Prothro was a regular chimney on the sidelines in the 70s.

    Totally agree with Jet about the Skins/Eagles pic.

    I met George Ratterman some years ago. He was a heck of a nice guy.

  • Joe Barrie | May 7, 2010 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”389211″][quote comment=”389196″]Regarding the “Roberts jersey”, it’s nice that they remembered the raglan sleeves, but it would have been nicer had someone used the correct font for the numbers.[/quote]

    The font looks the same. Compare with the pic mid-way down the page from his website http://www.robinrobe...

  • Joe Barrie | May 7, 2010 at 2:08 pm |

    Regarding the “Roberts jersey”, it’s nice that they remembered the raglan sleeves, but it would have been nicer had someone used the correct font for the numbers.

    The font looks the same. Compare with the pic mid-way down the page from his website http://www.robinrobe...

    That’s the “reproduction” jersey font. For the real one, see the AP photo of Roberts pitching in the 1950 World Series.

  • Digger | May 7, 2010 at 2:11 pm |

    Samuelsson tapes his gloves so that they are formed over his wrists to protect against slashes. Red Wings weekly discussed this very thing last year during an equipment episode. The clear tape is so the logo or name (in this case Bauer) can still be seen.

  • MPowers1634 | May 7, 2010 at 2:12 pm |

    The TATC idea and subsequent pictures have really created a cult follwing.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”389290″]The TATC idea and subsequent pictures have really created a cult follwing.[/quote]

    I feel really stupid, but I have no clue what TATC is an acronym for (they’re really starting to accumulate here, ya know). Anyone?

  • Paul Barrett | May 7, 2010 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”389285″]I’m looking for designing football socks for a local high school team. Anyone know a good company out there that allows customization?

    A quick google search led me to a lot of stock companies and not a lot of custom shops..[/quote]

    Found some, thanks anyway!

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”389291″][quote comment=”389290″]The TATC idea and subsequent pictures have really created a cult follwing.[/quote]

    I feel really stupid, but I have no clue what TATC is an acronym for (they’re really starting to accumulate here, ya know). Anyone?[/quote]
    Turn ahead the clock

  • Tim F. | May 7, 2010 at 2:30 pm |

    LeBron had been wearing 6 as his practice number for quite some time now, maybe even a couple of seasons. People just re-noticed it lately for some reason. It’s also his Team USA number.

  • JamesP. | May 7, 2010 at 2:33 pm |

    Astros sign “Rojo” Johnson, and he started for Round Rock last night: http://houston.astro...

    Got to love Will Ferrell for going all the way when he does a character, even if it was just for fun. He sported high pants with stirrups, FNOB/Nick Name on Back, with the “ROJO JOHNSON” being wedged on to the jersey. Had a bag of beer wuith him to the mound, gold chains, and a bad mustach that the Mario Bros want back. Oh, and the red shoes were interesting…

    And all of this for a one time character…unless he decides it would make for a good movie…

  • Mark in Shiga | May 7, 2010 at 2:35 pm |

    Count me in with the TATC fans. I remember seeing the Mercury Mets game; everyone had fun with it.

    My team, the Cubs, didn’t get a TATC uniform… maybe I should do one for my first uni-tweak mockup.

  • marc | May 7, 2010 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”389293″][quote comment=”389291″][quote comment=”389290″]The TATC idea and subsequent pictures have really created a cult follwing.[/quote]

    I feel really stupid, but I have no clue what TATC is an acronym for (they’re really starting to accumulate here, ya know). Anyone?[/quote]
    Turn ahead the clock[/quote]

    Oh geez…. duh. I shoulda known that. Thx, JTH!

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”389295″]Astros sign “Rojo” Johnson, and he started for Round Rock last night: http://houston.astro...

    Got to love Will Ferrell for going all the way when he does a character, even if it was just for fun. He sported high pants with stirrups, FNOB/Nick Name on Back, with the “ROJO JOHNSON” being wedged on to the jersey. Had a bag of beer wuith him to the mound, gold chains, and a bad mustach that the Mario Bros want back. Oh, and the red shoes were interesting…

    And all of this for a one time character…unless he decides it would make for a good movie…[/quote]

    Ferrell does pay attention to such things. He is a jock at heart, after all. Probably, in a lot of ways, a jock first and a comedian second. Saw one interview where he said that he hadn’t got into comedy he’d probably be coaching high school football somewhere.

    —Ricko

  • mike 2 | May 7, 2010 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”389281″][quote comment=”389264″][quote comment=”389255″]
    If I recall correctly, American Needle was trying to prove that the NFL is 32 separate entities that should each be allowed to sign contracts with their own suppliers, so I think you do have it backwards. The NFL wants to be seen as one entity so it can sign those big time exclusive deals that cover all the teams under its corporate umbrella.[/quote]

    That’s American Needle’s position but not for that reason.

    American Needle is saying the NFL is 32 separate entities because (under antitrust law) 32 entities may not be allowed to collude to sign an exclusive agreement.

    If the NFL is a single entity (which is their position) they can sign an exclusive agreement because its not collusion (you can’t collude with yourself).[/quote]

    So, basically, exactly what I said, except with the word ‘collusion’ added in there a few times? ;-)[/quote]

    Exactly!

    Thinking about it again, the USFL case might be a better analogy than Starcaps. I do know that the NFL lost the USFL Case and that the league and all teams except the Raiders were defendants, I have no idea if the NFL tried a “single entity” argument against the USFL like they are in American Needle.

  • JamesP. | May 7, 2010 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”389298″][quote comment=”389295″]Astros sign “Rojo” Johnson, and he started for Round Rock last night: http://houston.astro...

    Got to love Will Ferrell for going all the way when he does a character, even if it was just for fun. He sported high pants with stirrups, FNOB/Nick Name on Back, with the “ROJO JOHNSON” being wedged on to the jersey. Had a bag of beer wuith him to the mound, gold chains, and a bad mustach that the Mario Bros want back. Oh, and the red shoes were interesting…

    And all of this for a one time character…unless he decides it would make for a good movie…[/quote]

    Ferrell does pay attention to such things. He is a jock at heart, after all. Probably, in a lot of ways, a jock first and a comedian second. Saw one interview where he said that he hadn’t got into comedy he’d probably be coaching high school football somewhere.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Will was a place kicker in high school. He also had on a full Red Sox uni a few years ago when he threw out the first pitch.

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”389296″]Count me in with the TATC fans. I remember seeing the Mercury Mets game; everyone had fun with it.[/quote]

    ugh

    i was at that game…was awful

    benson pitched for the bucs against the mess and pitched a gem…success he’d never have with the mets of course

    first batter up for the mets was rickey, and he was pissed — scoreboard had colored him ‘green’ and put like some kind of alien antennae on him

    when he batted the next time, the image was gone

    i think we got souveneir caps (which i either chucked or lost, because it was a piece of crap) with the mercury symbol on it — in retrospect, i should have brought my camera and kept cap

    im not so sure all the players had fun with it and the whole time i remember thinking, “what the hell has baseball come to”

  • John English | May 7, 2010 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”389195″]Are those A’s turn-ahead-the-clock jerseys black? Did the team get the idea to start wearing black jerseys because of this one-time promotion?[/quote]

    No, they were dark green, just as the green alts then and now are.

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”389302″][quote comment=”389195″]Are those A’s turn-ahead-the-clock jerseys black? Did the team get the idea to start wearing black jerseys because of this one-time promotion?[/quote]

    No, they were dark green, just as the green alts then and now are.[/quote]

    im not so sure about that

    look at the ‘vest’ portion of the shirt and then the “cuff” portion

    sure looks like green cuffs and black jerseys

    this would seem to be confirmed by the pic in paul’s TATC set

  • concealed78 | May 7, 2010 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”389232″]

    And you’re right about the pariah aspect. I’ve smoked, quit for eight years, started again five years ago. And no matter which I was, smoker or non-smoker, I hated the people who regarded it as a moral decision. Baloney. It’s a health decision. Smokers are not immoral people.

    Which led me to one of my better observations. The previous generation had to deal with the arrogance of its “holier than thou” people. The following generations deal with the snooty “healthier than thou” crowd.

    Plus, I wish I had a dollar for everyone I’ve heard say, “I’m allergic to cigarette smoke” when the truth was, “I think it’s stinky.”

    Jeez, I know it’s stinky. I’m not stupid. Just level with me and I’ll move away from you. Don’t trump up some bullshit about your “allergy.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I quit 7 months ago. I got sick and tired of all the bans and constant bullshit where I could smoke 13 years ago but couldn’t anymore. The first time I ever got hassled was by a college in 1997, even tho I was at least 20 feet from the doors. Had to smoke in my car or else. Since they banned smoking in bars a few years ago, haven’t gone to one since. I hope these bars & restaurants realize how much business they’re losing with these laws. Absolutely absurd that we can’t smoke OUTside.

  • Andy | May 7, 2010 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”389285″]I’m looking for designing football socks for a local high school team. Anyone know a good company out there that allows customization?

    A quick google search led me to a lot of stock companies and not a lot of custom shops..[/quote]

    Easy. Twin City Knitting. Go there, click on ‘Team Sports Wear’ over on the left, then click on ‘Football Socks’ to download the .pdf catalog and give them a call.

  • Matthew Robins | May 7, 2010 at 4:03 pm |

    Forget TATC for a minute and take a look at this…

    This is awesome!

    Colonials Unveil Vintage Unis for “Turn Back the Century Season”

    http://ballparkbiz.w...

    http://ballparkbiz.f...

  • Matt Dunn | May 7, 2010 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”389304″][quote comment=”389232″]

    And you’re right about the pariah aspect. I’ve smoked, quit for eight years, started again five years ago. And no matter which I was, smoker or non-smoker, I hated the people who regarded it as a moral decision. Baloney. It’s a health decision. Smokers are not immoral people.

    Which led me to one of my better observations. The previous generation had to deal with the arrogance of its “holier than thou” people. The following generations deal with the snooty “healthier than thou” crowd.

    Plus, I wish I had a dollar for everyone I’ve heard say, “I’m allergic to cigarette smoke” when the truth was, “I think it’s stinky.”

    Jeez, I know it’s stinky. I’m not stupid. Just level with me and I’ll move away from you. Don’t trump up some bullshit about your “allergy.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I quit 7 months ago. I got sick and tired of all the bans and constant bullshit where I could smoke 13 years ago but couldn’t anymore. The first time I ever got hassled was by a college in 1997, even tho I was at least 20 feet from the doors. Had to smoke in my car or else. Since they banned smoking in bars a few years ago, haven’t gone to one since. I hope these bars & restaurants realize how much business they’re losing with these laws. Absolutely absurd that we can’t smoke OUTside.[/quote]

    That’s when a can of Skoal comes in handy. I’ve never had anyone tell me not to dip in public. Even though the law states I’m not supposed to, I’m not affecting anyone around me by doing it (besides possibly grossing them out).

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 4:24 pm |

    Ladies and gentlemen,
    boys and girls…
    your first doubleheader at Target Field.
    Orioles and Twins, tomorrow.

    Tonight’s game rained out.

    —Ricko

  • Monty | May 7, 2010 at 4:33 pm |

    Jim Brown was some physical specimen? Last time I saw him on TV, which couldn’t have been more than 2 or 3 years ago, he looked like he could suit up and re-claim his rushing record if he damn well felt like it.

  • John | May 7, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    The LSU catcher is the same wristband that my highschool team uses. Go to

    http://www.ownthezon...

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”389220″][quote comment=”389214″]Wow! TWO examples of awesome stripes on an Eagles jersey in one day![/quote]

    I have photo that is my favorite shot of that uni. Tim Brown carrying the ball against (I believe) the Browns at Franklin Field. I’ll dig it out, scan it and post it this afternoon when I get home. Maybe 3:30 CDT.

    It’s a really good look at the uni…a stripe fest, if you will.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Eight minutes late, but here’s the photo…
    http://farm5.static....
    Just always liked it. Classic pose, interesting combination of colors…

    —Ricko

  • Monty | May 7, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    More on Billy Ray “Rojo” Johnson:
    http://www.youtube.c...
    and
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • M.Princip | May 7, 2010 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”389311″][quote comment=”389220″][quote comment=”389214″]Wow! TWO examples of awesome stripes on an Eagles jersey in one day![/quote]

    I have photo that is my favorite shot of that uni. Tim Brown carrying the ball against (I believe) the Browns at Franklin Field. I’ll dig it out, scan it and post it this afternoon when I get home. Maybe 3:30 CDT.

    It’s a really good look at the uni…a stripe fest, if you will.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Eight minutes late, but here’s the photo…
    http://farm5.static....
    Just always liked it. Classic pose, interesting combination of colors…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Wow, you really see the enormity of those shoulder loops in that shot. They almost extend right down to the pants. Great pic indeed.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 4:54 pm |

    Anyone want to do some research?

    A while back a friend and I got to wondering about the most common jersey number for MVP’s in MLB, NFL, AFL (before merger) and NBA.

    I thought maybe #32 (Sandy Koufax, Elston Howard, Jim Brown, Magic Johnson).

    Also #6 seems like it might be good choice, too (Stan Musial, Bill Russell…)

    Got any other ideas?

    I don’t know the answer. Just wondering.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”389314″]Anyone want to do some research?

    A while back a friend and I got to wondering about the most common jersey number for MVP’s in MLB, NFL, AFL (before merger) and NBA.

    I thought maybe #32 (Sandy Koufax, Elston Howard, Jim Brown, Magic Johnson).

    Also #6 seems like it might be good choice, too (Stan Musial, Bill Russell…)

    Got any other ideas?

    I don’t know the answer. Just wondering.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    seems like #23 in hoop might be up there

  • jesse | May 7, 2010 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”389308″]Ladies and gentlemen,
    boys and girls…
    your first doubleheader at Target Field.
    Orioles and Twins, tomorrow.

    Tonight’s game rained out.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Speaking of the O’s, on the 26th of June they’re “celebrating” the 40th anniversary of one of their championships. They’re playing the Nats (“Battle of the Beltways”)and both teams will be wearing throwbacks. Nats will be dressed as Senators. Interesting, because I thought the Rangers owned the rights to the Senators logos, etc.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”389313″][quote comment=”389311″][quote comment=”389220″][quote comment=”389214″]Wow! TWO examples of awesome stripes on an Eagles jersey in one day![/quote]

    I have photo that is my favorite shot of that uni. Tim Brown carrying the ball against (I believe) the Browns at Franklin Field. I’ll dig it out, scan it and post it this afternoon when I get home. Maybe 3:30 CDT.

    It’s a really good look at the uni…a stripe fest, if you will.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Eight minutes late, but here’s the photo…
    http://farm5.static....
    Just always liked it. Classic pose, interesting combination of colors…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Wow, you really see the enormity of those shoulder loops in that shot. They almost extend right down to the pants. Great pic indeed.[/quote]

    Just for fun, the flip side of that SI clipping.
    –Charley Taylor when he still was a running back.
    –Steelers’ gold insert sleeve jerseys (although the sleeves don’t show).
    –A lesson in how a gloomy day can skew colors in older photos. We might think the ‘Skins wore maroon jerseys. We would, of course, be wrong.
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko

  • Joe Barrie | May 7, 2010 at 5:07 pm |

    Isn’t Cookie Gilchrist in this group of MVPs?

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”389315″][quote comment=”389314″]Anyone want to do some research?

    A while back a friend and I got to wondering about the most common jersey number for MVP’s in MLB, NFL, AFL (before merger) and NBA.

    I thought maybe #32 (Sandy Koufax, Elston Howard, Jim Brown, Magic Johnson).

    Also #6 seems like it might be good choice, too (Stan Musial, Bill Russell…)

    Got any other ideas?

    I don’t know the answer. Just wondering.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    seems like #23 in hoop might be up there[/quote]
    Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Stu Grimson, Ryne Sandberg, Kirk Gibson…

  • Matt Dunn | May 7, 2010 at 5:10 pm |

    I know I said this last night, but everyone was most likely sound asleep. I’ve started a site dedicated to uniforms tweaks, simply titled Uni Tweakers. If you could head over there and leave a comment or two so I don’t appear to be talking to myself, I’d be very grateful. Hopefully you’ll find something you like or can submit a tweak of your own!

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”389319″]

    Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Stu Grimson, Ryne Sandberg, Kirk Gibson…[/quote]

    i take that back…make that 33

  • SoCalDrew | May 7, 2010 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”389210″]Whoa! Check out the size of the Fleur de Lis [/quote]

    That’s the way it SHOULD look, imho…

  • Tony Miller | May 7, 2010 at 5:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”389308″]Ladies and gentlemen,
    boys and girls…
    your first doubleheader at Target Field.
    Orioles and Twins, tomorrow.

    Tonight’s game rained out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    In the “2 games in 1 day” sense, yes. But it’s still the separate-admission sort.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”389318″]Isn’t Cookie Gilchrist in this group of MVPs?[/quote]

    Often incorrectly thought to be, but he wore #34 with the Bills and #2 with the Broncos.

    —Ricko

  • Greg B. | May 7, 2010 at 6:06 pm |

    On the smoking topic, our own Mr. Lukas did an excellent piece a couple of years ago on this very subject:

    http://sports.espn.g...

    One of the things that always intrigued me when I was younger was watching ballgames and seeing the attractive young ladies in the stands shown in the background of low-angle shots, many of whom would be smoking seductively. Crazy, I know. It would be great to watch them in the better detail of HD with a big screen. Once again, I was born a generation or two too late.

  • BurghFan | May 7, 2010 at 6:31 pm |

    For those who wonder about the origins and use of “Fearsome Foursome”:

    http://www.pro-footb...

  • =bg= | May 7, 2010 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”389243″]Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.

    Speaking of other pariahs…

    Wonder how Jamarcus “I Got the Money” Russell would look in teal and lime green. A little like mucus, you say? Guess wouldn’t be much different from how he looked in silver and black then, huh.

    Hey, JaMucus Russell. Not bad.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I live in the Bay Area but I’m a Niners fan and ignore the Rayduhz. Believe me, you do not want this guy. Work ethic = 0. Every article you see is accurate. Just another fat lazy me-first dude with a posse layin’ on the couch playing video games.

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 7:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”389323″][quote comment=”389308″]Ladies and gentlemen,
    boys and girls…
    your first doubleheader at Target Field.
    Orioles and Twins, tomorrow.

    Tonight’s game rained out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    In the “2 games in 1 day” sense, yes. But it’s still the separate-admission sort.[/quote]

    What I meant, of course.
    Sorta thought that would be obvious.
    Should have known better around here, huh.
    Two-for-ones don’t happen much anymore.
    Although, technically, split or not, day-night or not, it’s still a doubleheader.’

    Isn’t it.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 7:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”389327″][quote comment=”389243″]Speaking of pariahs…

    Rumor has it that a certain national sports magazine is about to seriously deep six a certain NFL quarterback regarding his off-the-field behavior…with regard to things that have been swept under the rug and/or tolerated over the past few years.

    Speaking of other pariahs…

    Wonder how Jamarcus “I Got the Money” Russell would look in teal and lime green. A little like mucus, you say? Guess wouldn’t be much different from how he looked in silver and black then, huh.

    Hey, JaMucus Russell. Not bad.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I live in the Bay Area but I’m a Niners fan and ignore the Rayduhz. Believe me, you do not want this guy. Work ethic = 0. Every article you see is accurate. Just another fat lazy me-first dude with a posse layin’ on the couch playing video games.[/quote]

    And in 10 years he’ll be living in a Greyhound bus shelter, broke and blaming his agent for “bad investments.”

    $39 million worth?

    Damn right, those agents are an unsavory lot. Everyone knows it’s never the athlete’s fault.
    (eyeroll)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 7:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”389324″][quote comment=”389318″]Isn’t Cookie Gilchrist in this group of MVPs?[/quote]

    Often incorrectly thought to be, but he wore #34 with the Bills and #2 with the Broncos.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I suppose, in case someone wants to get pissy (NOT meaning you Joe Barrie) and because Gilchrist so often gets placed in the “32” group, I should PROVE what I say…
    http://farm5.static....
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”389330″][quote comment=”389324″][quote comment=”389318″]Isn’t Cookie Gilchrist in this group of MVPs?[/quote]

    Often incorrectly thought to be, but he wore #34 with the Bills and #2 with the Broncos.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I suppose, in case someone wants to get pissy (NOT meaning you Joe Barrie) and because Gilchrist so often gets placed in the “32” group, I should PROVE what I say…
    http://farm5.static....
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    And, no, the buffalo the helmet isn’t blue, or two-tone. The color on that photo appears to have been “hand augmented” a bit in places, and I think the artist just screwed up. I cropped another Bill out of the photo and his helmet buffalo is clearly red.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”389329″]And in 10 2 years he’ll be living sleeping in with a 15 year old Greyhound bus shelter, broke and blaming his agent for “bad investments judgment.[/quote]

    (fixed)

  • Josh | May 7, 2010 at 7:39 pm |

    With Davis and Barajas going back-to-back for the Mets, I can now attest that the Mets’ new apple has the old-school Mets font

  • interlockingtc | May 7, 2010 at 8:05 pm |

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I think I had about 15 copies of that card in my collection back in the day. I kept them all. (Sadly, no longer around). There were several guys, in all sports, in those old collections, who would show up in every other pack it seems. I had about 12 Bob Rule’s from the ’71 Topps NBA tallboy collection. Usually journeymen type guys.

  • =bg= | May 7, 2010 at 8:10 pm |

    Good grief, I hate it when Lukas gloats on the Mets. They’ve hit 3 HRs off Sanchez. It’s like BP out there. Do we get to at least throw Timmeh at you? Yeah, I think Sunday. So at least the Mets will only take 2 of 3.

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 8:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”389335″]Good grief, I hate it when Lukas gloats on the Mets. They’ve hit 3 HRs off Sanchez. It’s like BP out there. Do we get to at least throw Timmeh at you? Yeah, I think Sunday. So at least the Mets will only take 2 of 3.[/quote]

    game’s not over yet…

    tomorrow is johan vs. wellemeyer…and sunday is ollie vs. timmah

    so assuming johan’s last start was an aberration…tonight’s kind of the rubber game, innit?

  • Oakville Endive | May 7, 2010 at 8:22 pm |

    Is it me, or are the NHL Play-offs top draw this year, both in terms of calibre of play and aestethetically (sp?). All four second round match ups are eye pleasers – if I had to rank from top to bottom . in terms of uniform appeal – I would go

    1. Chicago /Vancouver
    2. Detroit/San Jose
    3. Boston/Philadelphia
    4. Montreal/Pittsbugh

    and yet even the series I rated last – is still great.

    The SI article basically confims Big Ben is right now a Big Jerk – hopefully this is a wake up call.

  • =bg= | May 7, 2010 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”389336″][quote comment=”389335″]Good grief, I hate it when Lukas gloats on the Mets. They’ve hit 3 HRs off Sanchez. It’s like BP out there. Do we get to at least throw Timmeh at you? Yeah, I think Sunday. So at least the Mets will only take 2 of 3.[/quote]

    game’s not over yet…

    Be glad you’re not facing Zito. Can’t believe I said that given his career to date with SF. But, 5-0 and a 1.49 ERA! He’s just untouchable this year, so is Timmeh. Now Cain has found his groove. No doubt, the best rotation in the game. If we can just hit…

    tomorrow is johan vs. wellemeyer…and sunday is ollie vs. timmah

    so assuming johan’s last start was an aberration…tonight’s kind of the rubber game, innit?[/quote]

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 9:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”389336″]
    game’s not over yet…[/quote]

    as frankie k proves me right, yet again

  • LI Phil | May 7, 2010 at 9:59 pm |

    ROY=ike?
    comeback player of the year=barajas?

    wow…at least two things have gone right this year

  • Miles | May 7, 2010 at 10:03 pm |

    Make I ask what is everyone’s problem with Russell? Seems like every sports (and quasi related) site I vist, people want to chime in on JaMarcus Russell. I’d even go as far as to say some people seem to revel in his failure. Why is that?

  • Ricko | May 7, 2010 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”389341″]Make I ask what is everyone’s problem with Russell? Seems like every sports (and quasi related) site I vist, people want to chime in on JaMarcus Russell. I’d even go as far as to say some people seem to revel in his failure. Why is that?[/quote]

    Because he took $36 million and sat on his ass.

    Andy MacPhail once said there are two kinds of players who sign big contracts. One starts figuring out how to spend the money; the other starts figuring out how to earn it.

    Guess which describes Russell.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 11:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”389340″]ROY=ike?
    [/quote]
    What’s he played? 15 games or so? Sure, why not?

    Oh, maybe THIS is why not.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    First road playoff hat trick for the Blackhawks since all the way back on May 5th of 2010.

  • M.Princip | May 7, 2010 at 11:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”389337″]Is it me, or are the NHL Play-offs top draw this year, both in terms of calibre of play and aestethetically (sp?). All four second round match ups are eye pleasers – if I had to rank from top to bottom . in terms of uniform appeal – I would go

    1. Chicago /Vancouver
    2. Detroit/San Jose
    3. Boston/Philadelphia
    4. Montreal/Pittsbugh

    and yet even the series I rated last – is still great.

    The SI article basically confims Big Ben is right now a Big Jerk – hopefully this is a wake up call.[/quote]

    Yep, best uni match up has to be Boston and Philly. The yellow and orange is simply awesome. The Bruins edge out Philly for best uniform overall though.

  • M.Princip | May 7, 2010 at 11:29 pm |

    I simply can’t get over how sweet those red Falcons helmets look with the gold center strips. They actually look like two copper strips, or, brass gaskets.

    Can’t think of it now, yet what other NFL teams honored their state college teams, team rivalries in this way on the helmet, if any? Just such an original cool idea.

  • Joe Raskin | May 7, 2010 at 11:33 pm |

    Nothing against Lebron wanting to honor MJ, but if a number is going to be retired league-wise, shouldn’t No. 6 be retired before No. 23? I mean, he did win seven more championships and have a profound impact on the way basketball is played and how athletes are viewed (I’ve been rooting for the Knicks for the last half-century. You have no idea how it galls me to speak highly of someone who plays for Boston’s basketball team, the real evil empire).

  • JTH | May 7, 2010 at 11:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”389344″][quote comment=”389337″]Is it me, or are the NHL Play-offs top draw this year, both in terms of calibre of play and aestethetically (sp?). All four second round match ups are eye pleasers – if I had to rank from top to bottom . in terms of uniform appeal – I would go

    1. Chicago /Vancouver
    2. Detroit/San Jose
    3. Boston/Philadelphia
    4. Montreal/Pittsbugh

    and yet even the series I rated last – is still great.

    The SI article basically confims Big Ben is right now a Big Jerk – hopefully this is a wake up call.[/quote]

    Yep, best uni match up has to be Boston and Philly. The yellow and orange is simply awesome. The Bruins edge out Philly for best uniform overall though.[/quote]
    The games in Philly look fantastic. The ones in Boston? Big downgrade. It’s too bad both teams don’t wear their Winter Classic unis for those games.

    I’d have to agree with Endive’s assessment. Even though Philly/Boston is more visually pleasing tonight, I’d say that overall, Chicago/Vancouver is the top match-up. I’d maybe flip-flop the #2 and #3 choices, but that’s a close one. I think San Jose’s unis are highly underrated. Black & teal’s easy to hate.

    Montreal/Pittsburgh really at #4? Yeah. Habs, of course, look great. But the Pens really need to lose the vegas gold.

  • LI Phil | May 8, 2010 at 12:11 am |

    [quote comment=”389347″]the Pens really need to lose the vegas gold.[/quote]

    much better

  • Bill K. | May 8, 2010 at 12:57 am |

    I love Robert Harvell!!

  • M.Princip | May 8, 2010 at 1:27 am |

    [quote comment=”389347″][quote comment=”389344″][quote comment=”389337″]Is it me, or are the NHL Play-offs top draw this year, both in terms of calibre of play and aestethetically (sp?). All four second round match ups are eye pleasers – if I had to rank from top to bottom . in terms of uniform appeal – I would go

    1. Chicago /Vancouver
    2. Detroit/San Jose
    3. Boston/Philadelphia
    4. Montreal/Pittsbugh

    and yet even the series I rated last – is still great.

    The SI article basically confims Big Ben is right now a Big Jerk – hopefully this is a wake up call.[/quote]

    Yep, best uni match up has to be Boston and Philly. The yellow and orange is simply awesome. The Bruins edge out Philly for best uniform overall though.[/quote]
    The games in Philly look fantastic. The ones in Boston? Big downgrade. It’s too bad both teams don’t wear their Winter Classic unis for those games.

    I’d have to agree with Endive’s assessment. Even though Philly/Boston is more visually pleasing tonight, I’d say that overall, Chicago/Vancouver is the top match-up. I’d maybe flip-flop the #2 and #3 choices, but that’s a close one. I think San Jose’s unis are highly underrated. Black & teal’s easy to hate.

    Montreal/Pittsburgh really at #4? Yeah. Habs, of course, look great. But the Pens really need to lose the vegas gold.[/quote]

    This is what I’m referring to. Simply genius.

    Have to agree on the Canucks uniforms, they’re definitely my favorite. I mean, I’ve always loved the Orca C, combined with the old school colors and alt logos.

  • JTH | May 8, 2010 at 1:37 am |

    [quote comment=”389351″]
    This is what I’m referring to. Simply genius.[/quote]
    It’s nice. But the pants could use some stripes.

    Bruins definitely make my top 6 of teams still in the playoffs.

  • Jerry | May 8, 2010 at 2:16 am |

    [quote comment=”389251″]Baseball skipper Jim Leyland smoked in the dugout right up till when, the late 1990s?

    Thanks for all the amazing football pictures – I could look at that stuff all day. (I used to own that ’76 NFL lunchbox!)[/quote]

    Up until last Saturday when Michigan’s Smoking Ban took effect on May 1st

  • robert | May 10, 2010 at 5:53 am |

    [quote comment=”389218″][quote comment=”389213″]That can’t possibly be a cigarette, could it?[/quote]

    NFL coaches used to smoke on the sidelines all the time. Quite common. Norm Van Brocklin, both in Minnesota and Atlanta, probably was the heaviest smoker among them. Van Brocklin once said he hated artifical turf because there was nowhere to put out his cigaratte.

    Not saying that’s a heater in that photo…could be Tootsie Pop (seen a photo of Joe Pepitone that looks he smokin… ’til you look closely and can see it’s a sucker of some kind),

    —Ricko[/quote]

    tommy puffing away…

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  • robert | May 10, 2010 at 8:03 am |

    [quote comment=”389345″]I simply can’t get over how sweet those red Falcons helmets look with the gold center strips…[/quote]

    it is a great look!

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  • robert | May 10, 2010 at 8:06 am |
  • robert | May 10, 2010 at 8:07 am |

    [quote comment=”389210″]Whoa! Check out the size of the Fleur de Lis here and compare with this.[/quote]

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  • Craig | May 10, 2010 at 1:02 pm |

    The LSU catcher’s wristband is probably a pick proof system wristband.

    http://www.ownthezon...

    It generates 3 number combinations for both a coaches sheet and a player card. It can be refreshed to generate a whole set of combinations so you could theoretically have a new set of signals every inning. It can also be used for middle infielder position or regular batting signals as well.