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A New Name Game

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I recently got a note from Anil Adyanthaya, who pointed out that Adam Foote’s name is represented twice on his jersey — first on his NOB, and then on the Avs’ shoulder patch, which is a foot.

“Okay,” I thought to myself. “Big deal.” But then Anil started rattling off some additional examples, like Sylvester Byrd, who played for the Falcons; Steve Bird, who played for the football Cardinals; and my favorite, Jose Cardenal, who spent a year and a half with the Redbirds.

And then he suggested some near misses:

• Wilf Starr played hockey for the New York Americans in 1932-33, but they didn’t have NOBs.

• Bill Bridges played for the Golden State Warriors in 1974-75, but the team no longer used the Golden Gate bridge on their uni during that period.

• Jim Storm played for the Hartford Whalers 1994 — too soon for the franchise’s rebirth as the Carolina Hurricanes.

When pondering additional examples, one that immediately came to mind was Johnny Podres. He pitched for the Padres in 1969, but they didn’t wear the Swinging Friar on their uniforms that season — a near miss. Podres also coached for the Padres, although I’m unsure of the specific years (anyone?). If he was coaching there in 1978, then he wore this patch, which would qualify him for full-fledged name/symbol duality status.

Of course, Podres already had his name represented twice on his jersey phonetically, but that’s a whole different list. For now let’s stick to the NOB/symbol convergence — there must be other examples floating around out there, right? Have the Cowboys ever had a player named Star? Have the A’s ever had a player named Pachyderm? Has A-Rod ever played for a team that wore a sleeve patch of a giant dick?

Much like Curtis Pride playing for the Nashua Pride, or Carlos May using his NOB and uni number to form his birthday (May 17), this is one of those utterly meaningless tropes that can somehow become all-consuming once you start thinking about them. So good luck getting anything else done today, and thanks in advance for any additional examples you come up with.

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Culinary Corner: The Kentucky Derby is this Saturday, which means people all over America will be having their annual rendezvous with the mint julep. But look, any frat boy can suck down juleps, especially the shitty ones that tend to be served at Derby parties (hint: If it’s being poured from a pitcher, it wasn’t made correctly). If you really want to make the Derby scene in style, prepare the dish that’s actually named after the race: a derby pie.

Technically speaking, you’re not supposed to use the term “derby pie,” because that’s a registered trademark of some annoying people in Kentucky who insist that they own the name and love to send their lawyers after anyone who thinks otherwise. (They even sued their own chocolate chip supplier, Nestlé, for putting a “Tollhouse Derby Pie” recipe on the chip packaging.) So you’ll often see wink-wink names like Triple Crown pie, race day pie, winner’s circle pie, and so on. But screw all of that — derby pie belongs to the people. Here’s how to make one:

If you know how to make pie crust, make some dough and position it in a 9-inch pie pan; if you don’t know how or just can’t be bothered, get yourself a frozen 9-inch pie shell.

Set your oven to 350 degrees. While it’s heating up, get a big mixing bowl and beat together four eggs, a cup of light corn syrup, 3/4 cup of light brown sugar and 1/3 cup of melted butter. Then add 3 tablespoons of decent bourbon (or maybe a smidge more than that, if you’re so inclined), a tablespoon of vanilla extract, a tablespoon of flour, 6 ounces of chocolate chips, and a cup of chopped walnuts.

Mix all of that together, pour it into the pie dough or frozen shell, and pop it into the oven for an hour. It’ll puff up high like a soufflé, but it’ll settle back down while it cools, which you should allow it to do for an hour or so.

It’s standard to serve each slice with a dollop of whipped cream, although I frankly think that’s unnecessary — the pie is rich enough on its own. Less traditional and even less necessary, but nonetheless delicious: this bourbon sauce, which is pretty much the bomb.

Trust me, there won’t be any leftovers.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Coupla follow-ups from yesterday: I asked about the logos on Barry Zito’s undershirt, and many readers told me that it’s the Canterbury of New Zealand mark. And I also asked about the chest patch on this old official’s jacket, and several readers I.D.’d it as the mark of the Northern Officials Association. … A guy who blogs about the Indians took a slight detour the other day to complain about the uniforms at Target (with thanks Michael Burnett). … The rock band Coldplay is sponsoring a cricket club (with thanks to David Highhill). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: New uni number for Nick Johnson. … It’s a little hard to see in this shot, but Tampa Bay Rowdies player Long Tan is going FNOB (as noted by Kenn Tomasch). … Here are some proposed new logos for NASA (with thanks to Ilana Hardesty). … Man U’s new home and road kits have been leaked (with thanks to Timothy O’Malley). … I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them. … The more I see of those Adidas Power-Web pants, the worse they look. Meaghan Munson took those shots at Notre Dame’s spring scrimmage. … Speaking of Notre Dame football, James Laky checks in with the following: “This past weekend they had a raffle for the new jerseys they will be wearing this season. Nothing major changed, but the main difference is they have ND on the sleeves again instead of TV numbers. And the ND is different from the past — it has a white background and the font looks a little different. They also have an ND on the back now, near the collar.” … The Islanders will officially unveil their new road jersey at their draft party on June 25th (with thanks to John Muir). … Here’s a rundown of new NFL rookies’ uni numbers. … Plans are afoot to create a WHA Hall of Fame. Lots of good photos and video on the project’s web site (big thanks to Scott Kaplan). … Ole Miss baseball has been wearing camo caps, and boy do they look ridiculous (with thanks to Blair Riffel). … Dennys Reyes of the Cardinals had some fun with a Mexican wrestling mask the other day (with thanks to Kenneth Hinrichsen). … Australia’s World Cup kit looks friggin’ gorgeous. And if you’d like to compare it to previous Aussie kits, look here (with thanks to Drew H. Douglas). … Here’s a new one: a Nevada player who appears to have a captain’s “C” — or at least some kind of “C” — on his pants. Never seen that before (big thanks to William Streit). … The new hockey-centric version of Mark Penxa‘s Stealing Signs project is now up and running. More on this soon, but for now just have fun clicking through the super-evocative artwork.

 

234 comments to A New Name Game

  • Dave Bloomquist | April 27, 2010 at 8:07 am |

    I remember watching Luther Blue of the Lions in the late 70’s. The NOB “Blue” on the blue jersey was funny.

  • The Jeff | April 27, 2010 at 8:07 am |

    Would Ray Guy count? The logo is a “Guy with an eyepatch” right? Maybe? The Raiders also had a linebacker for one season with a last name of Sword.

  • Rob J | April 27, 2010 at 8:13 am |

    Joe Washington played for the Redskins from 1981 to 1984.

  • Rob J | April 27, 2010 at 8:19 am |

    [quote comment=”387828″]Joe Washington played for the Redskins from 1981 to 1984.[/quote]
    I know, no symbolism but it always gave me a chuckle.

  • Adrian | April 27, 2010 at 8:19 am |

    How about Pedro Feliz playing for the Phillies?

    Or Tom Canada playing for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the CFL?

  • Billy | April 27, 2010 at 8:23 am |

    Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

  • Paul Lukas | April 27, 2010 at 8:28 am |

    [quote comment=”387831″]Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

    I believe that gold jersey is just the “no contact” QB jersey. Red was already being worn by the other team in that scrimmage.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 8:36 am |

    How about Deivi Cruz, who played for the Nationals in 2005.

    http://cache4.asset-...

    The sleeve patch on the road uniform matched his initials, “DC”:

    http://cache2.asset-...

    And Daniel Cabrera pitched for the Nats in 2009, where his initials were on both the home and road unis, and both alts:

    http://c.photoshelte...

    http://cache.daylife...

    http://3.bp.blogspot...

    These are the only 2 players with the initials “DC” to play for the Nationals.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 8:37 am |

    We need the Cardinals to trade for Marlon Byrd.

  • Wayne Koehler | April 27, 2010 at 8:37 am |

    Outfielder Brent Brewer plays for the Brevard County Manatees, a class A affiliate of the Milwaukee Brewers. So he may qualify in a couple of years.

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 8:38 am |

    Any pics for the new Notre Dame jersey? I hate to see the current one changed in any way.

  • Bernard | April 27, 2010 at 8:40 am |

    I can’t find a good shot of his NOB, but there’s Marshall University RB, Darius Marshall:

    http://herdzone.cstv...

    And Marshall used to have a teammate at wide receiver named Darius Passmore, which always struck me as funny:

    http://cache.daylife...

  • Paul Lukas | April 27, 2010 at 8:43 am |

    [quote comment=”387836″]Any pics for the new Notre Dame jersey?[/quote]

    Soon.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 8:48 am |

    No players with the first name “Jay” have ever played for Toronto. Pity. Plenty of Jasons and BJ’s, and even a Jamie, but no Jay. Too bad Jay Buhner never spent any time playing in Toronto.

  • Kyle K | April 27, 2010 at 8:49 am |

    I always thought it was cool that Pedro FELIZ played for the PHILLIES. Not quite the same, but similar.

  • Dave Bloomquist | April 27, 2010 at 8:51 am |

    Oh, my! Here’s a great one:

    http://digimills.com...

    Rollie Fingers with the Brewers glove logo on his hat!

  • Scott | April 27, 2010 at 8:57 am |

    Roger Staubach “Star-back” (okay, it’s a stretch :-)) played for the Cowboys of course. And “Jumbo” Elliot played for the New York “Giants”.

  • Luther Mahoney | April 27, 2010 at 8:58 am |

    The mask that Dennys Reyes wore is a Rey Mysterio mask. I gave one to my brother for Christmas along with some DVD box sets.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 8:59 am |

    Lance Broadway played for the Mets, but the Mets’ jersey patch really is more about the New York skyline than Broadway. Kind of a reach.

    http://farm4.static....

    http://fullcountpitc...

    No one with the last name Bridge has ever played for the Mets, either.

  • JAson | April 27, 2010 at 9:03 am |

    Inspired by Phil’s BFBS columns, I have come up with an absolutely awful BFBS alt for my beloved Washington Nationals…

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Joe Hilseberg | April 27, 2010 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”387832″][quote comment=”387831″]Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

    I believe that gold jersey is just the “no contact” QB jersey. Red was already being worn by the other team in that scrimmage.[/quote]

    Agreed…but after the bball team pretty much adopted it’s gold jersey as their home jersey, it wouldn’t surprise me to see a gold jersey football game.

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment=”387832″][quote comment=”387831″]Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

    I believe that gold jersey is just the “no contact” QB jersey. Red was already being worn by the other team in that scrimmage.[/quote]

    Thank goodness. That’s an awful look, and I’m a fan of gold.

    It’s funny how detailed teams have become with simple non-contact jerseys. Used to be you just threw a different color mesh net over the QB and let it be. Now it’s an exact replica of the game jersey, only in a different color.

    And why does ND wear red non-contact jerseys? Why not green? You think anyone is going to buy a red ND jersey? But they would be green.

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”387846″][quote comment=”387832″][quote comment=”387831″]Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

    I believe that gold jersey is just the “no contact” QB jersey. Red was already being worn by the other team in that scrimmage.[/quote]

    Agreed…but after the bball team pretty much adopted it’s gold jersey as their home jersey, it wouldn’t surprise me to see a gold jersey football game.[/quote]

    Yes, Maryland does not have enough different combinations (red, black, white). They need more to be the Oregon of the East. (That’s the standard now. No longer the “UCLA of the East” because UCLA set the standard for winning, but the “Oregon of the East” because Oregon sets the standard for looking absurd in so many different ways.)

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 9:16 am |

    At least Maryland is wearing its school colors (red, white, black, gold). The basketball team started wearing gold uniforms in 1981.

  • JECAEC | April 27, 2010 at 9:20 am |

    I always thought that it was cool that Dave Philley played for the Phillies.

  • JECAEC | April 27, 2010 at 9:21 am |

    Try this for Dave Philley …

    http://www.philadelp...

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too

  • JSS | April 27, 2010 at 9:26 am |

    I agree with Geeman. I am very interested to see the ND jersey with the interlocking different font ND. I am guessing it will look something like this:

    http://fightingirish...

    or:

    http://graphics.fans...

    I really hope it’s not this: (North Dakota’s design):
    http://www.thedickin...

  • Mike | April 27, 2010 at 9:26 am |

    It’s not too late for Miroslav Satan to sign with the Devils.

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 9:34 am |

    Always thought it was a missed opportunity that Daryl Boston never played for … well … ya know … Boston.

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 9:35 am |

    Here’s a good one.

    In ’81 and ’82, Angel Moreno pitched for the Angels …

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • JSS | April 27, 2010 at 9:39 am |

    Has anyone on here tried to create a logo for the new Big Ten, once it expands to 12, 14 or 16–while still keeping the “big ten” name?

  • JSS | April 27, 2010 at 9:40 am |

    Here’s an idea…
    http://www.someblogs...

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 9:42 am |

    Mets need to deal for Alberto Callaspo.
    And transpose a couple letters.

    —Ricko

  • lose remerswaal | April 27, 2010 at 9:43 am |

    How about the only man in MLB history to wear his name spelled out on his hat?

    Umpire Al Clark

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 9:43 am |

    Alabama’s new alternate uniform (not really), just like the Cardinals.

    http://www.seattlepi...

  • JSS | April 27, 2010 at 9:44 am |

    Or this for an expanded Pac 10:

    The PAC 12
    http://3.bp.blogspot...

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 9:44 am |

    Jeff King played for the Royals …

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • JSS | April 27, 2010 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”387861″]Alabama’s new alternate uniform (not really), just like the Cardinals.

    http://www.seattlepi...

    That would truly be BFBS.

  • lose remerswaal | April 27, 2010 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”387860″]How about the only man in MLB history to wear his name spelled out on his hat?

    Umpire Al Clark[/quote]

    4th from the right in this picture

    http://www.dailypres...

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 9:50 am |

    Jeff Byrd pitched for the Blue Jays in ’77 …

    http://mlb.mlb.com/t...

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 9:53 am |

    Are we doing initials? Because this could be a very long list …

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”387864″][quote comment=”387861″]Alabama’s new alternate uniform (not really), just like the Cardinals.

    http://www.seattlepi...

    That would truly be BFBS.[/quote]

    Of course. And I am not advocating it. I love Alabama’s uniforms; they have really grown on me in recent years. But if you had to start from scrach, that wouldn’t be a bad alternate look, unless, of course, your team was named the CRIMSON Tide.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 9:57 am |

    Here’s a rundown of new NFL rookies’ uni numbers.

    Interesting that Denver went to the trouble of making jerseys for Tebow and Thomas with their names and the #10 on them (for the 2010 draft). Why not give them jerseys with the numbers they’ll actually wear?

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Andy | April 27, 2010 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    Well, they NAILED everything except the numerals. They got close on them, but they could have gotten closer, or at least I could have, if that was my responsibility.

  • Matt Beahan | April 27, 2010 at 10:01 am |

    It’s not really related, but I always like that my 2 favourite Hornets players growing up were Curry & Rice.
    How about players who had their surnames on both the front and back of the jerseys? Only one I can think of was Jerry West whenever he played for the West All-Star team…

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 10:02 am |

    Bengals gave their draft picks jerseys based on the round they were selected in:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • War Damn Eagle | April 27, 2010 at 10:04 am |

    Here’s Tebow with the #10 jersey. I honestly thought he was taking that number, until I read Rovell’s article.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Gershon | April 27, 2010 at 10:07 am |

    In re: derby pie — my friend’s cooking blog is called “Not Derby Pie” for just that reason. (www.notderbypie.com)

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”387869″]Here’s a rundown of new NFL rookies’ uni numbers.

    Interesting that Denver went to the trouble of making jerseys for Tebow and Thomas with their names and the #10 on them (for the 2010 draft). Why not give them jerseys with the numbers they’ll actually wear?

    http://sportsillustr...

    Because Brandon Marshall swiped all the 15’s?

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | April 27, 2010 at 10:11 am |

    One example of a name appearing twice on a jersey comes from the unfortunate practice of advertising on uniforms: Lee Sharpe of Manchester United, when their shirt sponsor was Sharp.

    http://www.independe...
    http://www.whoateall...

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 10:13 am |

    There have been way too many guys named “Phil” who have played in the majors for me to research how many of them were Phillies, but I do know that Phil Bradley played a season in Philadelphia.

  • Matthew Robins | April 27, 2010 at 10:15 am |

    Secret Uni Watch Fan?????

    “Just get rid of the crappy stuff, and focus on the good stuff.” – Apple CEO Steve Jobs http://www.fastcompa...

  • Jeremy | April 27, 2010 at 10:16 am |

    Reggie Ball w/ Georgia Tech wearing the ACC patch
    http://media.scout.c...

  • Jet | April 27, 2010 at 10:18 am |

    Oh man, back in the 70’s there was a picture in The Hockey News of some guy who worked in the Colorado Rockies organization, I think it was the PR guy. He was on the ice with two Rockies players with their backs to the camera, showing their NOBs. Their NOBs were the first and last name of their PR guy!!!

    -Jet

  • Rob Curtin | April 27, 2010 at 10:19 am |

    Paul,

    Thanks for sharing Derby Pie with the masses. Having grown up in Louisville, it is definitely one of my favorite desserts. And you’re right, the Kern’s are jerks for trademarking the name. But, if I may, I’d like to share a mint julep recipe that a lot of Kentuckians enjoy:

    First, make a simple syrup by boiling a cup of sugar in a cup of water for 5 minutes. Pour this syrup over a handful of mint leaves, and crush the leaves gently. Remove mint leaves from the syrup, and place in a container for storage.

    Next, crush a few other mint leaves into the bottom of your serving glass. Fill the glass with crushed ice, and add a tablespoon of the syrup you just made and a tablespoon of water.

    Last, dump this mixture down the drain, rinse the glass, and fill with about two ounces of bourbon (I prefer Woodford Reserve).

    Thanks again Paul, and enjoy the Derby!
    -Rob

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”387870″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    Well, they NAILED everything except the numerals. They got close on them, but they could have gotten closer, or at least I could have, if that was my responsibility.[/quote]

    not arguing but i am curious…what exactly didn’t they get right?

  • Jet | April 27, 2010 at 10:26 am |

    Relative to Johnny Podres, he could form a battery (pitcher/catcher) that forms the name of the franchise:

    Benito SANTIAGO and Johnny PODRES = SAN DIEGO PADRES

    -Jet

  • Dank | April 27, 2010 at 10:26 am |

    Question on the Rockies uniforms after reading yesterday’s ticker:

    Have they basically dumped the Purple Alt? I see it is available for sale still at MLB.com, but it was not mentioned in the patch discussion, and I can’t remember the last time I saw them wear it.

    Any Rockies fans or Rockies uni trackers out there?

  • Matthew Glidden | April 27, 2010 at 10:30 am |

    Cookie Rojas played for the Reds in 1962. If you prefer spelling over translation, he also played for the Royals from 1970 to 1977.

  • Schmeltzer | April 27, 2010 at 10:33 am |

    I can see why that guy’s a captain. That’s a textbook look-out block.
    http://farm4.static....

  • Andy11 | April 27, 2010 at 10:34 am |

    Mr. Met: NY Mets
    Mr. Red: Cincinnati Reds

  • Perry | April 27, 2010 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”387884″]Question on the Rockies uniforms after reading yesterday’s ticker:

    Have they basically dumped the Purple Alt? I see it is available for sale still at MLB.com, but it was not mentioned in the patch discussion, and I can’t remember the last time I saw them wear it.

    Any Rockies fans or Rockies uni trackers out there?[/quote]

    They haven’t worn the purple jersey in some time. Pretty sure not since at least 2008. If they wore it in ’09 it couldn’t have been more than once or twice.

  • duker | April 27, 2010 at 10:40 am |

    Here’s an obscure one. Harry Byrd pitched 14 games for the Orioles in 1955. In which the O’s wore this on their hats.

    Tim Byrdak pitched for the O’s in 2005 & 2006, but I think that’s a bit of a stretch.

    No Irish O’ names (O’Malley, O’Brien, etc) have played for them since the “O’s” cap has been introduced.

  • interlockingtc | April 27, 2010 at 10:40 am |

    Can’t say enough about the greatness of Mark Penxa’s work.

  • Matthew Glidden | April 27, 2010 at 10:41 am |

    Bonus shot of airbrushed 1963 Topps Cookie Rojas card, where they added Philly pinstripes (and hat) to the sleeveless Cincy uniform. (Rojas moved to the Phillies in the off-season.)

    http://www.baseball-...

  • Jeremy | April 27, 2010 at 10:41 am |

    was watching this CJ Spiller highlight video and counted 7 different Clemson uniform combos. Only 2 missing were orange jersey/purple pants and purple jersey/white pants. Does anyone know if Clemson has ever worn either/both of those combos too? http://www.youtube.c...

  • JJD | April 27, 2010 at 10:41 am |

    Anthony Washington played for the Washington Huskies in basketball, so in their away uniforms it said “WASHINGTON” across the front AND the back.

  • Bernard | April 27, 2010 at 10:44 am |
  • Random reader | April 27, 2010 at 10:44 am |

    Tyler Houston played for the Astros and had his name on the front and back when the team played on the road.

  • The Ghost of Ross Gload | April 27, 2010 at 10:46 am |

    Hey, Sylvester Byrd double dips this exercise – he played his college ball at Kansas, back in the days when we still had the bird on the helmet.

  • Matthew Robins | April 27, 2010 at 10:46 am |

    What, no one liked my video of Steve Jobs ripping on Nike? http://www.fastcompa... Oh well, how about this picture of the Chicago Fire Beer Bus (It’s Red!): http://section8chica...

  • Bernard | April 27, 2010 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”387894″]NNOB, but…

    http://crossfitcle.c...

    Try that again…

    http://coacheschanne...

  • Ben Wideman | April 27, 2010 at 10:48 am |

    “Has A-Rod ever played for a team that wore a sleeve patch of a giant dick?”

    This might be my favorite line in any Uniwatch blog post, in the history of the site. Brilliant!

  • JimV19 | April 27, 2010 at 10:49 am |

    Too upset to read today’s piece until I comment on this ticker item – leave the NASA logo alone!

    They already messed with it once http://www.famouslog... before reverting to the classic logo. http://heasarc.gsfc....

    It’s not cluttered as much as the beauracracy is. Spin them off into a public/private consortium or something, but don’t eff with the logo.

    OK, on to the other stuff.

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”387892″]was watching this CJ Spiller highlight video and counted 7 different Clemson uniform combos. Only 2 missing were orange jersey/purple pants and purple jersey/white pants. Does anyone know if Clemson has ever worn either/both of those combos too? http://www.youtube.c...

    They’ve worn purple on white many times, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen orange on purple (thank goodness too).

  • Geeman | April 27, 2010 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”387888″][quote comment=”387884″]Question on the Rockies uniforms after reading yesterday’s ticker:

    Have they basically dumped the Purple Alt? I see it is available for sale still at MLB.com, but it was not mentioned in the patch discussion, and I can’t remember the last time I saw them wear it.

    Any Rockies fans or Rockies uni trackers out there?[/quote]

    They haven’t worn the purple jersey in some time. Pretty sure not since at least 2008. If they wore it in ’09 it couldn’t have been more than once or twice.[/quote]

    They wore purple a couple of times last year, including all-purple.

  • rufus | April 27, 2010 at 10:51 am |

    Jared Knight plays for the London Knights of the Ontario Hockey League

  • Jet | April 27, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    Here’s a video collage of WHA jerseys, pennants, patches, photos and other ephemera:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Perry | April 27, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    From yesterday:
    [quote comment=”387764″][quote comment=”387757″]Thanks crew. Next question; How common was the subscript? Were the Reds the only ones to do that?[/quote]

    I believe they were the only MLB team to do it (am I forgetting anyone?). But quite a few pro and college hoops teams have done it.[/quote]

    Can’t prove it with a photo, but I think the White Sox may have done it at least briefly in the early 60s.

  • JimV19 | April 27, 2010 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”387857″]Has anyone on here tried to create a logo for the new Big Ten, once it expands to 12, 14 or 16–while still keeping the “big ten” name?[/quote]

    At this rate, they should just expand to 20. Then they could have two Big Tens – east and west, or American and National, or Norris and Patrick, whatever.

    Of course, they’d still have to redesign the Big 11 logo.

  • JimV19 | April 27, 2010 at 10:59 am |

    The name Derby Pie doesn’t seem like something worth suing over (reminds me too much of “cow pie”), but the photo and recipe are fantastic. Gotta try that someday.

  • mike 2 | April 27, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    “Has A-Rod ever played for a team that wore a sleeve patch of a giant dick?”

    32 games for the Calgary Cannons in 1994 before getting called up the Mariners. Their old logo is as close to a dick as you’re going to find in sports:

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://upload.wikime...

  • mike 2 | April 27, 2010 at 11:04 am |

    If we’re talking junior hockey, the current winner is Wheaton King playing for the Brandon Wheat Kings:

    http://network.natio...

  • john | April 27, 2010 at 11:07 am |

    Mark Penxa, in a word BRUTAL. The Whalers NEVER EVER had laces on their jerseys, and if thats Blaine Stoughton, Im Obama.

  • Matt Fedorka | April 27, 2010 at 11:10 am |

    This isn’t one that happened and maybe not even considered a close call, but still close:

    Imagine if Michael Nylander played for the NY Islanders.

    He did end up playing for the NY Rangers however…

  • JimV19 | April 27, 2010 at 11:10 am |

    There were 14 guys named Brown who played for the Browns. Not all of them had NOB, and some didn’t make the active roster, but there were a few, including Courtney Brown: http://sportsillustr...

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”387904″]Here’s a video collage of WHA jerseys, pennants, patches, photos and other ephemera:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Yikes! That was certainly worth watching.
    All KINDS of fun stuff.

    —Ricko

  • Andy | April 27, 2010 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”387882″][quote comment=”387870″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    Well, they NAILED everything except the numerals. They got close on them, but they could have gotten closer, or at least I could have, if that was my responsibility.[/quote]

    not arguing but i am curious…what exactly didn’t they get right?[/quote]

    I want to wait until I see large pictures of the front and back numerals to elaborate, but there are certain inconsistencies that I think I can make out in the thumbnails.

  • duker | April 27, 2010 at 11:12 am |

    Seems like my posts keep disappearing. Harry Byrd played for the Orioles in 1955. Tim Byrdak is a stretch but he played for them in 2005 & 2006. No Irish “O” names (like O’Malley or O’Brien) have played for them since the introduction of the Apostrophe Catastrophe logo was introduced.

  • Jack K | April 27, 2010 at 11:14 am |

    I am a fan of the gold. If the Terps made that their primary color I wouldn’t cry.

  • Giancarlo | April 27, 2010 at 11:15 am |

    Jeff Feagles punted for the Eagles in the early ’90s.

  • J.R. | April 27, 2010 at 11:16 am |

    It’s not exactly what you’re asking for, but Jordin Tootoo of the Nashville Predators wears the number 22. I’ve always liked that.

  • Corey | April 27, 2010 at 11:18 am |

    The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”387920″]The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.[/quote]

    Conversely, if you wear a red shirt and khakis to the office, you get asked if you work part-time at Target.

    Something to said for the successful imprinting of something, though. Pretty successful “branding” campaign of a sort.

    —Ricko

  • JamesP. | April 27, 2010 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”387895″]Tyler Houston played for the Astros and had his name on the front and back when the team played on the road.[/quote]

    Tyler Houston never played for the Astros.

  • Andy | April 27, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    The first inconcsistency I think I can spot is in the ‘5’ where it looks from here like they missed the little notch on the inside corner where the middle horizontal stroke joins the left vertical stroke. Here’s George McAfee. It also looks like the corner bevels on the 5 are too shallow on the new version, making the numerals appear too ‘square.’

    The ‘4’ looks spot on, and the proportions seem good, but I just need to get a better look at everything before I can give it my seal of approval as accurate.

  • dan | April 27, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    Steve Heinze ended his career wearing the number 57. It was tons of fun for the announcers.

    http://sportsmed.sta...

  • Andy | April 27, 2010 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”387920″]The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.[/quote]

    You gotta keep your car keys in your hand. That tells people that, I’m just here for a minute… shopping.

  • Giancarlo | April 27, 2010 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”387922″]
    Tyler Houston never played for the Astros.[/quote]
    Ken Houston played for the Oilers, however.

  • James Craven | April 27, 2010 at 11:31 am |

    And on the subject of the feast of the Kentucky Derby, how about Hot Browns?

  • James Craven | April 27, 2010 at 11:32 am |

    And on the subject of Pedro Feliz, we just called him “Good field, no hit Pete Happy.”

  • Giancarlo | April 27, 2010 at 11:33 am |

    Too bad that Marlin Briscoe played for the Miami football team instead of the baseball one.

  • nicky p | April 27, 2010 at 11:33 am |

    steve heinze used to wear no. 57, at least later in his career- making his jersey Heinze 57 (like the ketchup)

  • Billy | April 27, 2010 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”387832″][quote comment=”387831″]Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

    I believe that gold jersey is just the “no contact” QB jersey. Red was already being worn by the other team in that scrimmage.[/quote]

    While it may have been used as the no-contact jersey, Diamondback Sports (MD’s newspaper) tweeted this:

    DBKSports:
    “Look out for the Terps’ new gold football uniforms against Navy on Labor Day, at least that’s what I was told”

  • AD Bryant | April 27, 2010 at 11:45 am |

    Now the bills have a # 23, 22, 21…and interestingly the order they currently fall in the depth chart is Marshawn Lynch 23, Fred Jackson 22, C.J. Spiller 21

  • kj | April 27, 2010 at 11:57 am |

    Another view of Long Tan, courtesy of DigitalGopher.

    Those FC Tampa Bay kits looked really sharp in person; they were definitely better dressed on the night than the home team, my newly-beloved NSC Minnesota Stars. (RIP Minnesota Thunder.)

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”387931″][quote comment=”387832″][quote comment=”387831″]Rumor has it that Maryland football will be wearing gold uniforms against Navy this year:

    http://www.baltimore...

    I believe that gold jersey is just the “no contact” QB jersey. Red was already being worn by the other team in that scrimmage.[/quote]

    While it may have been used as the no-contact jersey, Diamondback Sports (MD’s newspaper) tweeted this:

    DBKSports:
    “Look out for the Terps’ new gold football uniforms against Navy on Labor Day, at least that’s what I was told”[/quote]

    Think WILLY WONKA…
    “I got a Golden Tur-tle…”

  • JTH | April 27, 2010 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”387910″]Mark Penxa, in a word BRUTAL. The Whalers NEVER EVER had laces on their jerseys, and if thats Blaine Stoughton, Im Obama.[/quote]
    I take it you’re not a big fan of artistic license, Malia.

    The painting in question appears to be based on this. A pretty decent interpretation if you ask me.

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 12:06 pm |

    I like this…

    The aforementioned Denny Reyes played on KC in 2004

    Ossie Blanco on Chicago AL in 1970

    Euclides Rojas bullpen coach for Boston 2003

    Angel Berroa, Dodgers 2008

    And on that note, I’ll plug my buddy’s project Super Estrellas Del Beisbol

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 12:07 pm |

    BTW: Has A-Rod ever played for a team that wore a sleeve patch of a giant dick? – funniest thing I read all morning

  • DenverGregg | April 27, 2010 at 12:07 pm |

    The Broncos of the late ’70s had a punter named Bucky Dilts -yep, the Bucky Bronco.

    As to the Rox purple jerseys, I didn’t formally track last year, but I watched over 120 games between tv and in person and I sure don’t remember seeing it. I think they wore it in a July game I attended in 2008. I’m tracking this year and it’s not among the five uni combos worn to date – nor is the purple hat yet.

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 12:09 pm |

    Cookie Rojas came up with Cincy in ’62

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”387841″]Oh, my! Here’s a great one:

    http://digimills.com...

    Rollie Fingers with the Brewers glove logo on his hat![/quote]

    Best one so far.

  • Aaron | April 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”387933″]Another view of Long Tan, courtesy of DigitalGopher.

    Those FC Tampa Bay kits looked really sharp in person; they were definitely better dressed on the night than the home team, my newly-beloved NSC Minnesota Stars. (RIP Minnesota Thunder.)[/quote]

    What’s the deal with the goalie wearing a Lotto top and adidas shorts?

    And yes, all responses that include “This is a 2nd division soccer team in the US” are appropriate.

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 12:21 pm |

    Jose Cardenal, St. Louis 1970

    OK, I’ll stop now.

  • kj | April 27, 2010 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”387941″][quote comment=”387933″]Another view of Long Tan, courtesy of DigitalGopher.

    Those FC Tampa Bay kits looked really sharp in person; they were definitely better dressed on the night than the home team, my newly-beloved NSC Minnesota Stars. (RIP Minnesota Thunder.)[/quote]

    What’s the deal with the goalie wearing a Lotto top and adidas shorts?

    And yes, all responses that include “This is a 2nd division soccer team in the US” are appropriate.[/quote]

    I hadn’t even noticed that. His top did have the unfortunate “cross your heart sports bra” look on the front.

    And, yes, it’s second division. But just look at that scoreboard! (Full disclosure: I had a hand in designing parts of it, even if the team kept deviating from what I sent them.) Here’s a blog post about the scoreboard concept.

  • Jeremy | April 27, 2010 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”387941″][quote comment=”387933″]Another view of Long Tan, courtesy of DigitalGopher.

    Those FC Tampa Bay kits looked really sharp in person; they were definitely better dressed on the night than the home team, my newly-beloved NSC Minnesota Stars. (RIP Minnesota Thunder.)[/quote]

    What’s the deal with the goalie wearing a Lotto top and adidas shorts?

    And yes, all responses that include “This is a 2nd division soccer team in the US” are appropriate.[/quote]

    Maybe the two keepers did the traditional jersey exchange before the game instead of after :)

  • pru | April 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.

  • pru | April 27, 2010 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    just “CAN’T” get on board…sorry

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”387832″]my favorite, Jose Cardenal[/quote]

    ~~~~~~~~

    [quote comment=”387942″]Jose Cardenal, St. Louis 1970

    OK, I’ll stop now.[/quote]

    RTFM!!!

    sorry…carry on
    k

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 12:37 pm |

    On a non-name note, after wearing a classic look like this, why-o-why would Long Island’s Pride where this monstrosity, ever?

  • Mike Juran | April 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm |

    As a fan of the NY-Penn (short-A) minor league’s Williamsport Crosscutters, I’m still waiting for them to have a player named “Tim Burr” (TIMBER!)

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 12:39 pm |

    (sigh) For lack of an “r”, the perfect name for a basketball player…
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • JTH | April 27, 2010 at 12:40 pm |

    Here’s a good “maybe”.

    Murray Wing played one game for Detroit. It happened to be the first year for NOBs on the home jerseys.

    But was it a home or road game?

  • Perry | April 27, 2010 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”387920″]The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.[/quote]

    That happened to me at Lowe’s, where they wear red vests. One day I walked in wearing an Arsenal jersey (red with white sleeves) and people kept coming up with questions.

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”387948″]On a non-name note, after wearing a classic look like this, why-o-why would Long Island’s Pride where this monstrosity, ever?[/quote]

    They’re sponsored by NAPA Auto Parts, maybe?

  • Dave Bloomquist | April 27, 2010 at 12:54 pm |

    How bout this guy with a NOB to helmet relation?

    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  • JTH | April 27, 2010 at 12:58 pm |

    Do penguins have talons (under their skates)?

    Oh, and Hank Blade played for the Black Hawks in the 40s, but that was before they added the crossed tomahawks over the C as a secondary logo. (But he would most likely have worn the barberpole sweater on occasion…)

  • Jet | April 27, 2010 at 1:09 pm |

    I’ve found the closest thing to A-Rod’s sleeve patch…

    http://www.sportslog...

    -Jet

  • EricRomain | April 27, 2010 at 1:24 pm |

    Martin St Louis playing for the Blues would be nice on the third sweater

  • Chris B. | April 27, 2010 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”387920″]The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.[/quote]

    make sure that red polo shirt is no longer tucked into your khaki’s when you arrive at Target after work. The other day a manager asked me what I was doing with an empty cart, and he seemed embarrassed when I replied “shopping”.

    tool.

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”387947″]
    RTFM!!!

    sorry…carry on
    k[/quote]

    Ooops, got a little carried away.

  • JamesP. | April 27, 2010 at 1:38 pm |

    Interesting/Odd eBay auction for just one stirrup sock that was worn by Fred Lynn:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    What does one do with just one stirrup sock?

  • SaveFarris | April 27, 2010 at 1:46 pm |

    No pictures found (yet), but Billy Rojo was a prospect for Cincinnati from 2005-2007.

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”387960″]Interesting/Odd eBay auction for just one stirrup sock that was worn by Fred Lynn:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    What does one do with just one stirrup sock?[/quote]

    Let it go and hope it breeds indiscriminately with other socks in the neighborhood?

  • JTH | April 27, 2010 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”387962″][quote comment=”387960″]Interesting/Odd eBay auction for just one stirrup sock that was worn by Fred Lynn:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    What does one do with just one stirrup sock?[/quote]

    Let it go and hope it breeds indiscriminately with other socks in the neighborhood?[/quote]
    Let’s hope it stays away from the tube socks, though. Or we might end up with a bunch of these running wild in the trailer park.

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”387960″]

    What does one do with just one stirrup sock?[/quote]

    …must…not…go….there…

  • A2 | April 27, 2010 at 2:21 pm |

    Don’t know if this has been brought up yet, but MLBshop has released some mlb jerseys using the ‘city colors’ This basically means they are using the colors for the NFL teams…kind of There are only 4 teams right now:

    Phillies (in Eagles colors):
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    Brewers (in Packers colors):
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    Dodgers (LA Rams colors?):
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    and finally Cubs (in Bears colors):
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    and here are all 4 on 1 page:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    The sad thing is…people will actually buy these.

  • Elena | April 27, 2010 at 2:22 pm |

    We always made our Ky. Derby Pie with pecans. They are native to the state. And you have to use Maker’s Mark bourbon. Not that my teetotaling mother used any in her pies.

  • A2 | April 27, 2010 at 2:26 pm |

    I dont know if this has been said yet on here but MLBshop has 4 jerseys on their site for sale that are in ‘city colors’ instead of the normal team color. Really, they are in he colors of the NFL team from that city…kind of.

    THe 4 teams are: Phillies (Eagles colors), Brewers (Packers colors), Dodgers (LA Rams colors?), and the Cubs (Bears colors.)

    Here is the link that has them all on the same page:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    The sad thing is…people will actually buy these.

  • Dan Cichalski | April 27, 2010 at 2:32 pm |

    Podres was a Padres coach in 1973.

  • kf | April 27, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    Ole Miss hats look cool, but they are honoring the military with the flag facing the wrong way.

    http://farm4.static....

  • Chance Michaels | April 27, 2010 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]
    How unfair is that? The Bears are already selling pre-orders on the jerseys they unveiled last weekend, and not a peep on when the Packers’ 1929 throwbacks will hit the Pro Shop.

  • Sam | April 27, 2010 at 2:47 pm |

    I always liked the fact that Vance Wilson wore a Wilson-branded chest protector… one of the few times visible branding on baseball gear didn’t annoy me.

    http://farm1.static....

  • Bryan Justman | April 27, 2010 at 3:13 pm |

    Paul Ranger needs to sign with the Rangers.

  • amanda | April 27, 2010 at 3:15 pm |

    In re: Bears logo…

    As a UofC alumna, I can’t totally get behind the “Monsters of the Midway” (over the now-long-entrenched-for-the-Bears Chicago “C”) as if there was no history of the moniker before the Bears. Sure, the pro team has had two dominant eras after my school lost top-level football — but Soldier Field, and Wrigley before it, isn’t on the effin’ Midway.

  • rpm | April 27, 2010 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*

  • scott | April 27, 2010 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”387967″]I dont know if this has been said yet on here but MLBshop has 4 jerseys on their site for sale that are in ‘city colors’ instead of the normal team color. Really, they are in he colors of the NFL team from that city…kind of.

    THe 4 teams are: Phillies (Eagles colors), Brewers (Packers colors), Dodgers (LA Rams colors?), and the Cubs (Bears colors.)

    Here is the link that has them all on the same page:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    The sad thing is…people will actually buy these.[/quote]

    Dodgers, I’d guess, are probably supposed to reflect UCLA’s colors.

  • Carl | April 27, 2010 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”387920″]The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.[/quote]

  • Carl | April 27, 2010 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”387920″]The other problem with the Target “uniform” is that if you are shopping there and just happen to be wearing a red shirt, you will be asked questions.[/quote]
    …hey man, if you’re wearing your cell phone on your belt with a red shirt, that’s your problem. j/k – happened to me the other day.

  • Jeff S. | April 27, 2010 at 3:49 pm |

    Really? 150 posts in and the guy on the left hasn’t gotten any love?

  • Roger | April 27, 2010 at 3:55 pm |

    wow.

    1956 NY Giants, Yankees and Dodgers schedule …

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • James Craven | April 27, 2010 at 3:57 pm |

    Too bad Indy didn’t draft Colt McCoy.

  • JTH | April 27, 2010 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”387973″]In re: Bears logo…

    As a UofC alumna, I can’t totally get behind the “Monsters of the Midway” (over the now-long-entrenched-for-the-Bears Chicago “C”) as if there was no history of the moniker before the Bears. Sure, the pro team has had two dominant eras after my school lost top-level football — but Soldier Field, and Wrigley before it, isn’t on the effin’ Midway.[/quote]
    So you were a student during the 1930s?

    Anyway, let’s just add the Bears to the list of teams with geographically-inappropriate nicknames along with the Lakers, Dodgers, Jazz, Flames, etc. and move on.

  • Joe D | April 27, 2010 at 4:02 pm |

    Yankees will wear ordinary, plain uniforms for “un-true” Yankees… according to The Onion.

    http://www.theonion....

  • R~T~F~M | April 27, 2010 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”387980″]Too bad Indy didn’t draft Colt McCoy.[/quote]
    Why? Is McCoy a synonym for horseshoe?

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”387982″]Yankees will wear ordinary, plain uniforms for “un-true” Yankees… according to The Onion.

    http://www.theonion....

    “When asked which uniform he was assigned, Alex Rodriguez cried for 10 minutes.”

    Man, A-Rod’s taking it on the chin here today.

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”387984″]
    Man, A-Rod’s taking it on the chin here today.[/quote]

    no pun intended?

  • Paul | April 27, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    I have a good one for the NOB/Jersey thread: David Bell of the 2004 Phillies. They wore a sleeve patch that year for the oppening of Citizen’s Bank Park, which featured a the Liberty Bell. Here’s a pic. Here’s a close-up of the patch.

  • JamesP. | April 27, 2010 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”387985″][quote comment=”387984″]
    Man, A-Rod’s taking it on the chin here today.[/quote]

    no pun intended?[/quote]

    I was thinking a rimshot was needed…

  • JamesP. | April 27, 2010 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=\”387985\”][quote comment=\”387984\”]
    Man, A-Rod\’s taking it on the chin here today.[/quote]

    no pun intended?[/quote]

    I was thinking a rimshot was needed…

  • downtown | April 27, 2010 at 4:39 pm |

    Tee Martin played QB for Tennessee and had his name on his helmet in the form of a T.

  • JamesP. | April 27, 2010 at 4:39 pm |

    ok, how the heck did i double post one minute apart?

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 4:40 pm |

    The wording was intentional.

  • Paul | April 27, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    David Bell of the 2004 Phillies should also be mentioned. Philadelphia wore a patch that season for the opening of Citizen’s Bank Park. The patch featured the Liberty Bell. Here is a pic. And here is a close-up of the patch.

  • bd | April 27, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    Mike Eagles played for the Capitals when they wore the swooping eagle on the front of the jersey.

  • Bernard | April 27, 2010 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”387913″][quote comment=”387904″]Here’s a video collage of WHA jerseys, pennants, patches, photos and other ephemera:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Yikes! That was certainly worth watching.
    All KINDS of fun stuff.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Finally got a chance to watch this – outstanding!

  • Paul | April 27, 2010 at 4:45 pm |

    Sorry, here’s a working link of the 2004 PhilliesPatch

  • Chris B. | April 27, 2010 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”387993″]Mike Eagles played for the Capitals when they wore the swooping eagle on the front of the jersey.[/quote]

    Front: http://capsjerseys.c...

    Back: http://capsjerseys.c...

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”387991″]The wording was intentional.[/quote]

    ah…wasn’t certain…well played mauer

  • Mike Engle | April 27, 2010 at 4:55 pm |

    Didn’t Michael York ever play for the NY Rangers?
    Not really close, but I think Miles Austin as a Dallas Cowboy is as good as it gets, excluding Marcus Washington as a Redskin.

  • Andy | April 27, 2010 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.

  • tosaman | April 27, 2010 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”387975″][quote comment=”387967″]I dont know if this has been said yet on here but MLBshop has 4 jerseys on their site for sale that are in ‘city colors’ instead of the normal team color. Really, they are in he colors of the NFL team from that city…kind of.

    THe 4 teams are: Phillies (Eagles colors), Brewers (Packers colors), Dodgers (LA Rams colors?), and the Cubs (Bears colors.)

    Here is the link that has them all on the same page:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    The sad thing is…people will actually buy these.[/quote]

    Dodgers, I’d guess, are probably supposed to reflect UCLA’s colors.[/quote]

    The Brewers jersey in Packers colors wouldn’t make for a bad St. Patrick’s day jersey. Fortunately, the Crew hasn’t felt the need to participate in such uni shenanigans (yet).

  • Mark K | April 27, 2010 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”387975″][quote comment=”387967″]I dont know if this has been said yet on here but MLBshop has 4 jerseys on their site for sale that are in ‘city colors’ instead of the normal team color. Really, they are in he colors of the NFL team from that city…kind of.

    THe 4 teams are: Phillies (Eagles colors), Brewers (Packers colors), Dodgers (LA Rams colors?), and the Cubs (Bears colors.)

    Here is the link that has them all on the same page:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    The sad thing is…people will actually buy these.[/quote]

    Dodgers, I’d guess, are probably supposed to reflect UCLA’s colors.[/quote]
    Lakers

  • Chris from Carver | April 27, 2010 at 5:27 pm |

    I was just on MLBshop.com and I noticed that only the Cubs have the sleeve patch on the Dugout jackets on the right arm. All of the other teams have it on the left. Is there any particular reason for this? Sweet Lou in the Cubs jacket: http://chi-ball.com/...
    Joe Maddon in his jacket: http://farm4.static....

  • JamesP. | April 27, 2010 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”388000″][quote comment=”387975″][quote comment=”387967″]I dont know if this has been said yet on here but MLBshop has 4 jerseys on their site for sale that are in ‘city colors’ instead of the normal team color. Really, they are in he colors of the NFL team from that city…kind of.

    THe 4 teams are: Phillies (Eagles colors), Brewers (Packers colors), Dodgers (LA Rams colors?), and the Cubs (Bears colors.)

    Here is the link that has them all on the same page:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    The sad thing is…people will actually buy these.[/quote]

    Dodgers, I’d guess, are probably supposed to reflect UCLA’s colors.[/quote]

    The Brewers jersey in Packers colors wouldn’t make for a bad St. Patrick’s day jersey. Fortunately, the Crew hasn’t felt the need to participate in such uni shenanigans (yet).[/quote]

    Wasn’t there a weekend blog entry here where people posted baseball teams using the same city football team colors? If there wasn’t, I think there should be!

    Rangers in blue, white, and silver
    Astros in Navy, Battle Red, and white
    Yankees in Red, White, and Blue
    Mets in Green and White
    etc…

  • mmwatkin | April 27, 2010 at 5:41 pm |

    RE: Target mismatching uniforms

    I used to work at a Galyan’s Sports & Outdoors store (for those that know, they were awesome). We were all issued blue polo shirts and could pair them with whatever type of pants we wanted. Golf department could wear nice khaki pants, hunting could wear jeans, etc..

    Well…Galyan;s was bought out by the wal-mart of sporting goods stores, Dick’s (and their management fit the name). They told us we had to wear a green shirt, but they wouldn;t supply it. In protest we decided to wear the craziest green shirt combinations imaginable. Some wore line, some wore midnight forest that looked black. My personal favorite was a golf pro’s decision to wear a green “Ping” polo shirt he was given by a rep. The unfortunate thing was that Dick’s didn’t sell Ping golf clubs. That kinda ticked off management.

    To make an already long story shorter, we told management that if they wanted us to look uniform, they ought to supply the shirts for us. The next monday we each got two very boring looking hunter green shirts.

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”388003″]
    Wasn’t there a weekend blog entry here where people posted baseball teams using the same city football team colors? If there wasn’t, I think there should be!

    Rangers in blue, white, and silver
    Astros in Navy, Battle Red, and white
    Yankees in Red, White, and Blue
    Mets in Green and White
    etc…[/quote]

    were you thinking of this one?

    not quite the same thing (teams current logos with ‘former’ colors)…but i think a few people took it upon themselves to start flipping colors for same-city teams (think i may have run a few of those a week or two later)

    an alternate logos kind of thing…yes?

  • R~T~F~M | April 27, 2010 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”388003″]
    Astros in Navy Deep Steel Blue, Battle Red, and Liberty white
    [/quote]
    fixed.

    No, wait.

    [quote comment=”388003″]
    Astros in navy, orange and white
    [/quote]

    Now it’s fixed.

  • yeek | April 27, 2010 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”387950″](sigh) For lack of an “r”, the perfect name for a basketball player…
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Mitch Hoopes was a punter, not a basketball player, regrettably.

  • rpm | April 27, 2010 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”387999″][quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.[/quote]

    that syracuse is my dream uni! were we separated at birth? i hate to say it, but the scUM have a great look too. nd should have gold numbers on the navy jersey too, they should go totally sans white.

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 6:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”387859″]Mets need to deal for Alberto Callaspo.
    And transpose a couple letters.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Jackie Gleason Mode: ON.

    Hardy Harr Harr. Ricko.

    Jackie Gleason Mode: Off.

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”387899″]”Has A-Rod ever played for a team that wore a sleeve patch of a giant dick?”

    This might be my favorite line in any Uniwatch blog post, in the history of the site. Brilliant![/quote]
    Seconded!

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 6:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”387911″]This isn’t one that happened and maybe not even considered a close call, but still close:

    Imagine if Michael Nylander played for the NY Islanders.

    He did end up playing for the NY Rangers however…[/quote]
    Oh yes…. how could we forget!!!!
    http://sadtrombone.c...

  • Dave | April 27, 2010 at 6:29 pm |

    Dodgers RP Ramon Trancoso has something weird (looks like a horizontal piece of tape) across the 8 on his back uni number. Sorry, no picture.

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 6:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”388006″]
    Astros in navy, orange and white
    [/quote]

    well played, guy in cubicle next to you

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”387943″][quote comment=”387941″][quote comment=”387933″]Another view of Long Tan, courtesy of DigitalGopher.

    Those FC Tampa Bay kits looked really sharp in person; they were definitely better dressed on the night than the home team, my newly-beloved NSC Minnesota Stars. (RIP Minnesota Thunder.)[/quote]

    What’s the deal with the goalie wearing a Lotto top and adidas shorts?

    And yes, all responses that include “This is a 2nd division soccer team in the US” are appropriate.[/quote]

    I hadn’t even noticed that. His top did have the unfortunate “cross your heart sports bra” look on the front.

    And, yes, it’s second division. But just look at that scoreboard! (Full disclosure: I had a hand in designing parts of it, even if the team kept deviating from what I sent them.) Here’s a blog post about the scoreboard concept.[/quote]
    kudos to you kj–especially for the analog clock –very old time soccer feel. good job!

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 7:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”388009″][quote comment=”387859″]Mets need to deal for Alberto Callaspo.
    And transpose a couple letters.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Jackie Gleason Mode: ON.

    Hardy Harr Harr. Ricko.

    Jackie Gleason Mode: Off.[/quote]

    I speak the truth. :)
    Twins can’t beat the Yankees, either, esp. in post-season.
    Again I speak the truth.
    (shrugs shoulders) Does beat hell out out of not playing in post-season, though.

    —Ricko

  • MattB | April 27, 2010 at 8:00 pm |

    Keith Nord a Minnesota Viking from 79-85

  • Ben Fortney | April 27, 2010 at 8:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”387999″][quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.[/quote]

    Was thinking that the other day with a couple of those old Yankee pics. The away grays would look much better with NEW YORK just in navy, with no white outline.

  • MattB | April 27, 2010 at 8:26 pm |

    I always thought if Brent Burns got traded to the Calgary Flames, it would make a cool sweater. Also, Blake Wheeler with the Red Wings, Patrick Sharp with the Sabres, Dallas Drake with the Ducks, Garth Snow with the Avalanche, Jeff Moen if he got demoted to the minor league Macon Whoopee or Wheeling Nailers.

  • pflava | April 27, 2010 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”388019″][quote comment=”387999″][quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.[/quote]

    Was thinking that the other day with a couple of those old Yankee pics. The away grays would look much better with NEW YORK just in navy, with no white outline.[/quote]

    The unnecessary use white outlines on baseball road grays is quite possibly my biggest uni-pet peeve.

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 9:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”388021″][quote comment=”388019″][quote comment=”387999″][quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.[/quote]

    Was thinking that the other day with a couple of those old Yankee pics. The away grays would look much better with NEW YORK just in navy, with no white outline.[/quote]

    The unnecessary use white outlines on baseball road grays is quite possibly my biggest uni-pet peeve.[/quote]

    You do all realize that the widespread addition of white to unis in the 1950s was to…
    A) Not only separate teams, but also to separate colors that didn’t naturally separate well on black and white TV…
    B) Make certain things stand out and easier to read (Bears going to white numbers, for example). Way back when, Japanese umpires wore white gloves for the same reason, so their calls were instantly “trackable”, both on TV and in the ballpark…
    C) Add a bit of brightness to telecasts that truly were largely shades of gray. Black stayed pretty true to itself, but offered only a few dark gray areas in it highlights. White, on the other hand, really stood out as mostly white; hence things like the white pants for the Steelers came to be. It gave, for lack of a better word, a kind of “sparkle” to the gray-black telecasts. The most memorable heroes of very, very early TV? Hoppy in black, the Lone Ranger in, essentially, white. And both rode white horses.

    This, of course, is not as necessary now, and won’t be a real issue. However, if we’re honest and objective, I think we’ll see that–even in color, in HD and as good as the Bears’ throwbacks will look–that a bit of white defining the orange numbers really would make them easier to read. Won’t be even close to a major issue thesedays, and it won’t mean they should add them, but it will be a fact.

    Why? Because that’s just the way the human eye processes things. Anyone who paid attention in junior high science knows about rods and cones and color value and such. Or should.

    Not being combative, just taking about the opticals. And providing some black and white TV reference…from someone whose parents bought a TV in 1949 and didn’t turn it off for the next 50 years.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 9:15 pm |

    Think of it this way.
    If we made 49 stars on a U.S. flag Bears’ orange and left one white, which of the 50 stars would our eye go to first?

    —Ricko

  • JTH | April 27, 2010 at 9:16 pm |

    Dark colors against gray doubleknit look terrible. (See Red Sox, Boston.) Until Majestic can figure out how to produce gray jerseys that are flannelesque, give me the white borders.

    This, however, is an unnecessary white border.

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 9:38 pm |

    I liked that Syracuse uni, too. Even the monochrome orange one, because was so throwback in nature.

    And, while legability isn’t an issue with today’s TV technology (and I’m NOT saying they should have had white outlines), the fact remains that, optically speaking, a white outline does make the numbers stand out more (just a quick MS Paint to show the difference)…
    http://farm4.static....

    And, yeah, Tigers’ road white outline is unnecessary. Isn’t ick, yuck, puke bad…but definitely unnecessary. Although TV very probably is the reason the Tigers abandoned the orange “D” hat logo in the mid”50’s. Before that, they wore it all the time, even at at home with the same jersey and pants they wear at Commerica today.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 9:43 pm |

    btw, the few times Syracuse wore navy jerseys in the orange-helmet-&-pants era when they wore white at home (Jim Brown, Jim Nance, Larry Csonka, Floyd Little, et al), the numbers were white with a narrow orange edge.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 9:58 pm |

    everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helmet, jersey & pants this pixture?

  • traxel | April 27, 2010 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”388027″]everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helment, jersey & pants this pixture?[/quote]
    Light gray and dark gray.

  • traxel | April 27, 2010 at 10:08 pm |

    I don’t believe it. Up to a tie for first in Teebz hockey pool. Now for the free fall….

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 10:16 pm |

    comments like #200 & #201 are just asking for a banning

    especially 201…

    ;)

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”388027″]everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helmet, jersey & pants this pixture?[/quote]

    I have NO idea why Jim Brown’s helmet stripe is white in that photo. Holder’s doesn’t appear to be. And I don’t recall Syracuse of that era having anything other than a navy stripe on their orange helmets.

    They playing Holy Cross? Purple and white against orange and navy? Whoo!

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 10:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”388031″][quote comment=”388027″]everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helmet, jersey & pants this pixture?[/quote]

    I have NO idea why Jim Brown’s helmet stripe is white in that photo. Holder’s doesn’t appear to be. And I don’t recall Syracuse of that era having anything other than a navy stripe on their orange helmets.

    They playing Holy Cross? Purple and white against orange and navy? Whoo!

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Considering the times, it would have been very “Jim Brown” of him to put white training tape on his helmet. “Yeah, it’s me. Come and get it.”

    —Ricko

  • traxel | April 27, 2010 at 10:27 pm |

    So sorry! Please don’t take my life away — this is all I’ve got! (and about 20 pairs of stirrups that my wife wants to sell in the next yard sale)

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”388031″][quote comment=”388027″]everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helmet, jersey & pants this pixture?[/quote]

    I have NO idea why Jim Brown’s helmet stripe is white in that photo. Holder’s doesn’t appear to be. And I don’t recall Syracuse of that era having anything other than a navy stripe on their orange helmets.

    They playing Holy Cross? Purple and white against orange and navy? Whoo!

    —Ricko[/quote]

    and so it goes

  • inkracer | April 27, 2010 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”387847″]

    And why does ND wear red non-contact jerseys? Why not green? You think anyone is going to buy a red ND jersey? But they would be green.[/quote]

    My guess is it has something to do with the rarely worn Green Alternates that Notre Dame has…

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 10:48 pm |

    btw…here’s the full color pixture

    november 10, 1956 … vs. holy cross

    notice all the clear plastic facemasks on most of the cuse players

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 10:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”388036″]btw…here’s the full color pixture

    november 10, 1956 … vs. holy cross

    notice all the clear plastic facemasks on most of the cuse players[/quote]

    bad link.

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”388037″][quote comment=”388036″]btw…here’s the full color pixture

    november 10, 1956 … vs. holy cross

    notice all the clear plastic facemasks on most of the cuse players[/quote]

    bad link.[/quote]

    not it’s not…it’s just cached…

    highlight it…press the arrow key (any one)…when the link is not highlighted, hit “end”…(so your cursor is at the end of the link)…then press the space bar and hit “enter”

    and voila

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 10:59 pm |

    or i could just host it myself

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”388008″][quote comment=”387999″][quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.[/quote]

    that syracuse is my dream uni! were we separated at birth? i hate to say it, but the scUM have a great look too. nd should have gold numbers on the navy jersey too, they should go totally sans white.[/quote]
    FUNNY… had no idea that uni got so much love. It’s the best uni my alma mater has worn since JBrown rocked 44.

  • Ricko | April 27, 2010 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”388039″]or i could just host it myself[/quote]

    My post-it note mind strikes again.
    Could find it quickly because I remembered was Chuck Zimmerman….
    http://sportsillustr...

    —Ricko

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”388034″][quote comment=”388031″][quote comment=”388027″]everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helmet, jersey & pants this pixture?[/quote]

    I have NO idea why Jim Brown’s helmet stripe is white in that photo. Holder’s doesn’t appear to be. And I don’t recall Syracuse of that era having anything other than a navy stripe on their orange helmets.

    They playing Holy Cross? Purple and white against orange and navy? Whoo!

    —Ricko[/quote]

    and so it goes[/quote]
    Most impressive find!!! I seem to recall a picture in the helmet hut of a white center striped JBrown helmet. Man, this guy was one bad MuthaFu*ker!

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 11:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”388042″][quote comment=”388034″][quote comment=”388031″][quote comment=”388027″]everyone BUT ricko…

    what colors are the helmet, jersey & pants this pixture?[/quote]

    I have NO idea why Jim Brown’s helmet stripe is white in that photo. Holder’s doesn’t appear to be. And I don’t recall Syracuse of that era having anything other than a navy stripe on their orange helmets.

    They playing Holy Cross? Purple and white against orange and navy? Whoo!

    —Ricko[/quote]

    and so it goes[/quote]
    Most impressive find!!! I seem to recall a picture in the helmet hut of a white center striped JBrown helmet.

    Man, this guy was one bad MuthaFu*ker![/quote]
    I was wrong.. the helmet i was thinking of is the beat up JBrown model w/ the clear plastic (mended) facemask. However, SU did sport a white center stripe earlier in that decade… Exhibit A:
    http://www.helmethut...

  • LI Phil | April 27, 2010 at 11:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”388040″]FUNNY… had no idea that uni got so much love. It’s the best uni my alma mater has worn since JBrown rocked 44.[/quote]

    syracuse guys never miss an opportunity to let you know they graduated from there

  • rpm | April 27, 2010 at 11:44 pm |

    just back from umping…

    [quote comment=”388024″]Dark colors against gray doubleknit look terrible. (See Red Sox, Boston.) Until Majestic can figure out how to produce gray jerseys that are flannelesque, give me the white borders.

    This, however, is an unnecessary white border.[/quote]

    i love the boston road, and i loathe the red sox, so that is completely unbiased from a fan standpoint.

    ricko~
    i think everyone knows why teams use the white. and my response to that would be, i don’t give a rats behind, boo hoo to people who complain about their hd this and that. adding that white to syracuse, in my opinion, kills that jersey, it doesn’t need it. are the numbers a little, and i mean a LITTLE bit harder to read, sure i guess, but it isn’t that bad. it isn’t hunter on navy, it is bright orange on dark navy, perfectly acceptable in my opinion. and that is football, all that is out the window for baseball where there are not piles of people. in my opinion, i am not saying i am right, just what i personally prefer, i hate superfluous white as much as i do black, and when someone shows the balls to ditch it, i will applaud it.

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 11:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”388044″][quote comment=”388040″]FUNNY… had no idea that uni got so much love. It’s the best uni my alma mater has worn since JBrown rocked 44.[/quote]

    syracuse guys never miss an opportunity to let you know they graduated from there[/quote]
    Oh man….. I deserved that! That’s us: Harvard on the Onondaga!

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 11:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”388046″][quote comment=”388044″][quote comment=”388040″]FUNNY… had no idea that uni got so much love. It’s the best uni my alma mater has worn since JBrown rocked 44.[/quote]

    syracuse guys never miss an opportunity to let you know they graduated from there[/quote]
    Oh man….. I deserved that! That’s us: Harvard on the Onondaga![/quote]
    Here’s an SU uniform history that leads right to the blue/orange kit in qustion. I like the blue/orange’s predessor as well… not a bad look for some horrible teams.

    Thanks for nothing, Greg Robinson.

  • bob loblaw | April 27, 2010 at 11:54 pm |

    alright… it’s late and it’s time for bed.
    http://www.suathleti...

  • Giancarlo | April 28, 2010 at 12:04 am |

    Testaverde in Italian means green head. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, Vinny Testaverde when with the Jets never got to play in any version of their green helmets.

  • Jim BC | April 28, 2010 at 12:29 am |

    Good news from the NHL – the Coyotes are OUT. And so is their crazy “White Out” which they ripped off from my beloved Winnipeg Jets.

    It’s not so much that they try to call this their own, it’s the fact that their team is actually the one NOT wearing white! Sigh:

    http://proxy.espn.go...

  • rpm | April 28, 2010 at 1:08 am |

    brother rick~
    here is another example, sort of. even though it is slightly harder to read, isn’t this better then this?

  • Kyle | April 28, 2010 at 7:36 am |

    Jordan Tootoo wore number 22 in the NHL

  • pru | April 28, 2010 at 7:54 am |

    [quote comment=”388022″][quote comment=”388021″][quote comment=”388019″][quote comment=”387999″][quote comment=”387974″][quote comment=”387945″][quote comment=”387852″][quote comment=”387832″]I’m still not totally in love with the Bears’ new throwbacks, but I sure love the logo they’ve created to sell them.[/quote]

    those unis are freakin gorgeous, and they absolutely NAILED ’em

    and the logo’s pretty good too[/quote]

    I agree with “NAILED ’em” in terms of accuracy, but the “gorgeous” part I am not really a fan. It’s not like they have a ton of different throwbacks to choose from, but those posted with the stripes (1936 I think) would have been MUCH better. I’m about as big a Bears fan possible (my basement is a testament to Chicago sports), but I just can get on board with doing a throwback that looks like they ran out of white outlining.[/quote]

    how they look is sort of up to the viewer, because i think they are perfect. i hate superulous white when it isn’t needed in a football jersery. this bears jersey is virtually flawless in regards to my own personal take on aesthetics. and orange ta boot *droooooool*[/quote]

    Amen to this. I’ve never understood why so many uni enthusiasts seem to think that white is a required part of a uniform (as a design element). If your colors are blueblack and orange, like the Bears, you don’t really need white numerals, or white keylines on your stripes, because orange will do just perfectly. Looks fine, because they have a very nicely designed uniform, but a jersey that includes only orange and blue looks stunning as well, and is more unique. If I had one uni-wish, it would be for more teams to adopt non-white numerals and ditch extraneous white trim on their uniforms.

    For example, I was one of the few who loved this jersey. The lack of white (in my eyes) wasn’t really a legibility issue, and I loved how unique and classic it looked because it had no white. Reminded me of 1930s football.[/quote]

    Was thinking that the other day with a couple of those old Yankee pics. The away grays would look much better with NEW YORK just in navy, with no white outline.[/quote]

    The unnecessary use white outlines on baseball road grays is quite possibly my biggest uni-pet peeve.[/quote]

    You do all realize that the widespread addition of white to unis in the 1950s was to…
    A) Not only separate teams, but also to separate colors that didn’t naturally separate well on black and white TV…
    B) Make certain things stand out and easier to read (Bears going to white numbers, for example). Way back when, Japanese umpires wore white gloves for the same reason, so their calls were instantly “trackable”, both on TV and in the ballpark…
    C) Add a bit of brightness to telecasts that truly were largely shades of gray. Black stayed pretty true to itself, but offered only a few dark gray areas in it highlights. White, on the other hand, really stood out as mostly white; hence things like the white pants for the Steelers came to be. It gave, for lack of a better word, a kind of “sparkle” to the gray-black telecasts. The most memorable heroes of very, very early TV? Hoppy in black, the Lone Ranger in, essentially, white. And both rode white horses.

    This, of course, is not as necessary now, and won’t be a real issue. However, if we’re honest and objective, I think we’ll see that–even in color, in HD and as good as the Bears’ throwbacks will look–that a bit of white defining the orange numbers really would make them easier to read. Won’t be even close to a major issue thesedays, and it won’t mean they should add them, but it will be a fact.

    Why? Because that’s just the way the human eye processes things. Anyone who paid attention in junior high science knows about rods and cones and color value and such. Or should.

    Not being combative, just taking about the opticals. And providing some black and white TV reference…from someone whose parents bought a TV in 1949 and didn’t turn it off for the next 50 years.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s basically what I was getting at. I REALLY like the orange numbers, but thing a slim outline would help.

  • Andy | April 28, 2010 at 8:46 am |

    I think the white distracts from the read because your eye is so immediately drawn to it. Optically, the contrast is obviously higher and makes it easier to pick out individual numerals from a distance, which helps statisticians in a press booth, I guess, if there are no TV instant replays, but aesthetically and functionally, I find the numerals to be ‘easier on the eyes’ without the white keyline.

  • Ricko | April 28, 2010 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”388054″]I think the white distracts from the read because your eye is so immediately drawn to it. Optically, the contrast is obviously higher and makes it easier to pick out individual numerals from a distance, which helps statisticians in a press booth, I guess, if there are no TV instant replays, but aesthetically and functionally, I find the numerals to be ‘easier on the eyes’ without the white keyline.[/quote]

    NEVER mentioned what I preferred.
    At all.
    Was only talking about the optical realities of it, and both mentioned and showed examples.
    Was giving the reason behind it.
    Explaining something isn’t the same thing as advocating it.

    Japanese fans may have thought their white-gloved umpires LOOKED stupid…but their calls WERE easier to see, instantly.

    —Ricko

  • Phil L. | April 28, 2010 at 11:26 am |

    Chris Wing played for the Jets in 1997. Their 1997 helmet logo could be seen as having a wing.

    Murray Wing played one game for the Detroit Red Wings in the 73-74 season.

    Marino translates to ‘of the sea’, and obviously he was sporting Dolphins which are ‘of the sea’

    Guy Lafleur played 2 years for the Quebec Nordiques who are decked out in Fleur-de-Lis symbols

    Steve Shields pitched in 3 games for the Royals.

  • Brendan | April 28, 2010 at 4:00 pm |

    From Gregg Easterbrook’s TMQ column…

    “TMQ calls this franchise the Nesharim, which means Eagles in Hebrew. Why Hebrew? That language reads right to left, and Philadelphia’s is the sole NFL logo that faces right to left. Many readers including Rachel Joplin of Blue Bell, Pa., noted Philadelphia drafted defensive end Daniel Te’o-Nesheim — Nesheim is the singular form: Eagle. So he’s Eagle of the Eagles”

  • JamesP. | April 28, 2010 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”388005″][quote comment=”388003″]
    Wasn’t there a weekend blog entry here where people posted baseball teams using the same city football team colors? If there wasn’t, I think there should be!

    Rangers in blue, white, and silver
    Astros in Navy, Battle Red, and white
    Yankees in Red, White, and Blue
    Mets in Green and White
    etc…[/quote]

    were you thinking of this one?

    not quite the same thing (teams current logos with ‘former’ colors)…but i think a few people took it upon themselves to start flipping colors for same-city teams (think i may have run a few of those a week or two later)

    an alternate logos kind of thing…yes?[/quote]

    Yeah, that’s the one. I see it wasn’t exactly like what I was thinking, which still allows those with photoshop skills to change current MLB team unis to have the team colors of the NFL team in that city…

    I think it would be interesting…

  • JamesP. | April 28, 2010 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”388006″][quote comment=”388003″]
    Astros in Navy Deep Steel Blue, Battle Red, and Liberty white
    [/quote]
    fixed.

    No, wait.

    [quote comment=”388003″]
    Astros in navy, orange and white
    [/quote]

    Now it’s fixed.[/quote]

    nice…

  • Aaron McHargue | April 28, 2010 at 10:51 pm |

    Ahman Green used to wear green jerseys when he was a Packer. I always found that funny.

  • Barry Rubinstein | April 29, 2010 at 11:37 am |

    Believe it or not, the New York Rangers drafted a guy named Joe Ranger in the 10th round of the 1986 Entry Draft. Phil Esposito, the Rangers’ GM at the time, said, “I liked the kid’s name.” Interesting, in that Espo also posted a sign in the team’s dressing room that stated, “The name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back.” Clearly, not in this case.

  • KB | April 30, 2010 at 3:18 am |

    The Oregon Ducks had a linebacker named Wesley Mallard.