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{Editor’s Note: Today we have a guest entry from reader Mario Fontana, who’ll be discussing a collection that he’s particularly passionate about. — PL]

By Mario Fontana

For the past three years I have been on a mission to collect the mammoth 137-figure 1988 Starting Lineup football set from Kenner. It has been a long and arduous journey and is almost complete, save for one pesky action figure.

You may remember how popular Starting Lineups (or SLUs) were in the 1990s. People would line up at department stores early in the morning when they got word that a new shipment might be coming in. Entire conventions devoted to the figures were held across the country. But the Starting Lineup phenomenon fizzled as the millennium ended. Kenner was bought out by Hasbro and the new owners flooded the market with figures and subsets that made it too hard to keep track of it all. Today you can buy most Starting Lineup figures for pennies.

The exceptions are those first few sets from 1988 and 1989. Before Starting Lineup figures were being traded like stocks and bonds, they sat collecting dust on the shelves of Ames, Woolworths, Shopko, and similar discount retailers. Because of the massive size of the original sets, there were a lot of marginal players that people just weren’t interested in collecting. There is a famous rumor that Kenner took back all the unsold pieces and buried them in a landfill somewhere near their Cincinnati headquarters. It wasn’t until Kenner pared down the sets and focused on star players that the SLU scene became red-hot.

I was a pretty serious SLU collector. I was given a 1988 Michael Jordan figure for Christmas when I was seven (I still have it today). The following summer I picked up a Jim Rice and got hooked. Over the years I probably had over 200 figures from various sets, all opened and proudly displayed in my room. The one itch that I had never scratched, however, was that 26-team, 137-figure 1988 football set. One day a few years ago I decided I was in a position to finally have a go at the hobby’s premier set.

In the summer of 1988 Kenner decided that they would release the figures both nationally and regionally. Every store was offered an all-star assortment that included the likes of Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Lawrence Taylor, and Herschel Walker, as well as the opportunity to purchase team cases that were packed with 24 figures of a specific franchise. Typically you only found Atlanta Falcons figures in and around Georgia, and Seattle Seahawks figures in the pacific northwest, and so on.

These regional figures can be a major hassle. The general rule of thumb is that the more obscure a player is—or the lousier the team was in 1988—the tougher he is to find. Most teams had five figures to their sets. Two of the more popular teams had six, and several others had four. Every team set had at least one quarterback, but no team set had the same four, five, or six poses that any other team set had. Each figure came with a trading card and also a helmet. If you had a particular team set that you were fond of, you could buy this nifty stand to hold the player cards and figures.

Considering the size of the set, the detail and care that went into designing it is very impressive. Kenner produced 11 different poses, including three quarterbacks, three running backs, two receivers, and three defenders. In addition, Kenner produced 33 different heads for the players, including one-of-a-kind mugs for some of the more famous — and infamous — players. (It should be noted, however, that although African American players outnumbered white players two-to-one in the set, Kenner took the time to create 20 different heads for white athletes—just saying.)

And of course, there are the uniforms. One issue is that the uni numbers for the figures are all the same. There’s no trim or outlining, and all the players have the same nameplate font.

Paul will almost certainly approve of the details that went into the socks for the Browns, Eagles, Patriots, Rams, and Colts. Take a closer look at those Colts shoulder stripes — Kenner was swift enough to include the mid-’80s silver striping!

Teams could have either three or five sleeve stripes, and Green Bay (possibly my favorite looking set) even had the “G” sleeve logo. Similarly, the Saints had the Louisiana patch the Bears had the “GSH” initials for George Halas. I also like the Chargers’ lightning bolts.

My set is nearly complete. One day I hope to have it set up like this. That’s the “Kenner Wall” of avid collector Chuck Mathis, and he has one of every football player ever produced. Truly amazing!

But first I need to complete my set. The one figure that I am missing is Marc Wilson, and it has become my white whale. It shows up fairly frequently on eBay in packaged form, but almost never loose. Wilson is particularly tough because he, Tony Dorsett, and Willie Gault were offered as Sears exclusives. You could only order them through this Sears catalog advertisement. Gault is easier to find, likely because he was sold in two-packs with the then-popular Jim McMahon. Dorsett is a bit trickier, but is at least a Hall of Fame player, making him somewhat attainable. But Wilson is more elusive. If you have a Marc Wilson figure and want to help me finish my collection, or if you simply want to know more about the Starting Lineup phenomenon, contact me.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Paul here. I was in a bar last night and practically spit out my beer when I looked up at a TV and saw the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays. Yo, Jack Krabbe and/or Rich Frank, care to explain? … Serious snafu last night in San Francisco, where Matt Cain was wearing a jersey with last year’s Sue Burns memorial patch (screen shot courtesy of Laren Richaradson). … No photo, but AJ Brandt says the turf in foul territory in Toronto has “AstroTurf” printed right on the surface. … Coupla great eBay finds: an old softball uni and a softball pin. … Several NCAA hockey players wore their team jerseys while filming a political endorsement ad (with thanks to Tris Wykes). … Dave Peron of the Blues took the first shift of the team’s final regular-season game without TV numbers and then tweeted about it (with thanks to John Muir). … The Phoenix Coyotes may soon be known as the Arizona or Glendale Coyotes, at least according to the sixth graf of this story (with thanks to Keith Winney). … Nick Schmidt notes that Jeff Baker’s helmet logo was riding a bit low the other day. … New football uniforms for UNC (with thanks to Christoph Niedermann). … Yesterday’s Los Angeles Times featured a nice love letter to the Dodgers’ “LA” logo (as noted by Jeff Ash). … Always interesting to see the white slacks that umps sometimes wore during the 1920s, ’30s, and ’40s. That shot is from ’39 (as found by Lance Smith). … What’s interesting about this photo of Barry Bonds taking batting practice at Pac Bell Park in January of 2000? Look closely and you’ll see that Bonds and the other uniformed Giant in the frame are both wearing cream-colored jerseys with white pants. The cream uniforms debuted that season, so maybe the pants hadn’t arrived yet (excellent catch by Joaquin Jang). … Rick Deemer was looking at the A’s 1973 World Series ring and noticed that “S + S = S” notation. Anyone know what that stands for? … Interesting note from Ryan Thompson, who writes: “A Japanese client brought some ‘Georgia’ brand canned coffees to the the office today. There’s no affiliation with the university but the package design is definitely sporting the UGA helmet stripes.” … Attention Yinzers: My Pittsburgh pal Jennifer Baron is “looking for Steelers-related art or homemade creations for possible inclusion in an upcoming exhibition in Fall 2010.” She’s given the project its own Facebook group, called “Whatever It Takes: Steelers Fan Collections, Rituals, and Obsessions” (and look, there’s Kek and RyCo signing up right now!). … Phil sent me this awesome photo of Teddy Ballgame, the Man, and the Mick backstage at The Tonight Show Dig those Chucks! … The Tweed Run took place in London last weekend, which meant lots of fancifully attired cyclists. Good slideshow here, and further details here (major thanks to Coachie Ballgames).

 

171 comments to Go Figure, It Figures, Figured Out, Etc.

  • pk | April 14, 2010 at 8:13 am |

    Paul, so surprised you haven’t followed up on Mark Penxa (Stealing Signs).

    He just posted Stealing Signs 2…

    http://mpenxa.typepa...

    BTW: I had a ton of starting line up figures (mostly Jets :) and I still have Mark Gastineau sacking Elway on my shelf!

  • Billy | April 14, 2010 at 8:16 am |

    Not Jack Krabbe and/or Rich Frank but they wore them because it was T-shirt Tuesday and they gave out orange Matt Wieters t-shirts.

    They also decided that they will wear them for every T-shirt Tuesday giveaway night.

  • Mike | April 14, 2010 at 8:18 am |

    Wait, is that Ron Cherry in the Chiefs SL photo the same Ron Cherry that makes a fool of himself every Saturday in the fall officiating ACC games?

  • scott | April 14, 2010 at 8:22 am |

    According to the game story, the Orioles last wore BP jerseys in a regular season game July 20, 2008. Anyone have photos to share from that game?

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 8:24 am |

    a’s ring” s+s=s stands for sweat plus sacrifice equals success…a “finleyism”

    more details here

  • don g | April 14, 2010 at 8:24 am |

    I love those SL figures. Great collection. I have 1988 Ozzie Smith and Vince Coleman on my monitor at work.

  • Daniel | April 14, 2010 at 8:27 am |

    UNC….What is with the trend of teams with light colors going with different colors which are dark? UNC has gone as far as to make themselves look more like Duke. I hate the Dolphins dark blue as well. When will this end? Dark colors are to this period in time as teal was to the 90’s.

  • Adam | April 14, 2010 at 8:37 am |

    [quote comment=”385514″]a’s ring” s+s=s stands for sweat plus sacrifice equals success…a “finleyism”

    more details here[/quote]

    Glad someone else noticed that and asked, I wondered too… considering that it was on ALL of the A’s rings in the 70s

  • Macky | April 14, 2010 at 8:44 am |

    looks like the Jordan branding will take over the UNC football uniforms. At least I can see Jordan cleats.

  • JamesP. | April 14, 2010 at 8:49 am |

    I loved the Starting Lineup figures, and I wish I still had my Astros sets. I also wish I still had my Terry Bradshaw…

    Paul, according to the O’s TV guys, the O’s wore their BP jerseys last night just to do something different and to break out of the funk they were in.

  • Broadway Connie | April 14, 2010 at 8:51 am |

    “… Several NCAA hockey players wore their team jerseys while filming a political endorsement ad …”

    ***

    A rotten development from about fifteen points of view.

    As to Charlie Finley, I figured the last S was “success,” but I was rooting for sex and surrealism for the first two.

  • The Jeff | April 14, 2010 at 8:51 am |

    Today’s post makes me sorta wish I still had all the starting lineup figures I got as a kid. The lack of accuracy always bugged me though. I remember taking a blue marker and adding helmet stripes on the one Cowboys figure I had.

  • Geeman | April 14, 2010 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”385513″]According to the game story, the Orioles last wore BP jerseys in a regular season game July 20, 2008. Anyone have photos to share from that game?[/quote]

    Didn’t they wear them last year in a game in Oklahoma City too?

  • Geeman | April 14, 2010 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”385518″]looks like the Jordan branding will take over the UNC football uniforms. At least I can see Jordan cleats.[/quote]

    Disappointing development, for sure.

  • Dank | April 14, 2010 at 9:04 am |

    I used to LOVE the Orioles orange alts in the late 70’s-early 80’s ish era. They should just dump the crappy black alts they have now, take the side stipes off those BP shirts, and make them their full time 3rd jersey.

  • flip | April 14, 2010 at 9:07 am |

    Never was a fan of the “LA” logo, and think it looks way to clunky on the shoulder. (It can’t compete with the Brooklyn “B”. Never will) Still, that was a fine opinion piece. I’ll always remember it when I see the Dodgers. Loved the ending.

  • Jeremy Brahm | April 14, 2010 at 9:08 am |

    Interesting note from Ryan Thompson, who writes: “A Japanese client brought some ‘Georgia’ brand canned coffees to the the office today. There’s no affiliation with the university but the package design is definitely sporting the UGA helmet stripes.”

    Georgia is actually a Coca-Cola brand, probably just by chance the colors and pattern matched.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • flip | April 14, 2010 at 9:08 am |

    Never was a fan of the “LA” logo, and think it looks way too clunky on the shoulder. (It can’t compete with the Brooklyn “B”. Never will) Still, that was a fine opinion piece. I’ll always remember it when I see the Dodgers. Loved the ending. /fixed misspelling. Hate that, too./

  • ED | April 14, 2010 at 9:18 am |

    As for the A’s rings , Dick Williams used to jokingly say it meant “sh*t + sh*t = more sh*t”

  • Chris WDE | April 14, 2010 at 9:19 am |

    UGA’s Helmet only has a single white strip now.

  • Chris O | April 14, 2010 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”385514″]a’s ring” s+s=s stands for sweat plus sacrifice equals success…a “finleyism”

    more details here[/quote]

    Why does it say A’s 4- Met’s 3 on the top, then A’s 4-Red’s 3 on the bottom?

  • Beardface | April 14, 2010 at 9:20 am |

    Since when was pewter a UNC color?

    And the white helmet… Meh… Looks like crap, if you ask me.

    Should have just stuck with what they had before. Their colors are Carolina Blue and White. Not dark blue, not pewter, not black, just Carolina Blue and White. Why, then, do they need 4 different jersey colors and 3 helmet colors in 2 years? I don’t get it.

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”385530″][quote comment=”385514″]a’s ring” s+s=s stands for sweat plus sacrifice equals success…a “finleyism”

    more details here[/quote]

    Why does it say A’s 4- Met’s 3 on the top, then A’s 4-Red’s 3 on the bottom?[/quote]

    in 1972 the a’s defeated the big red machine 4 games to 3…in 1973 the a’s defeated the mets 4 games to 3

    (notice the ring takes in both years even tho it’s the 1973 ring)

  • Johnny O | April 14, 2010 at 9:27 am |

    A little help needed from the Uni Watch faithful:

    Every year I compete in the World’s Largest Trivia Contest in Stevens Point, WI. Prior to the main contest starting, the writers of the contest send out 24 pictures of actors, ads, athletes, cartoons, or just about anything. The teams need to find out whatever they can about these photos, because they have no idea what the question will be this upcoming weekend. While these pictures are a very small portion of the 54 hour long weekend event, every point matters. My team (Festivus For the Rest of Us) took third place last year (out of about 450 teams) and missed out on second place by a meager five points.

    Some rules go along with these photos though. They CAN NOT be posted on the public internet or else we will be DQ’d, but they can be e-mailed to anyone, and can be shown to anyone for help. So, if you want to take a look at these pictures, contact me (jokray@gleneringolf.com) with an e-mail saying “trivia help” in the description. I will then send you an e-mail with an attachment containing the photos. To learn more about the contest, you can look here:
    http://www.90fmtrivi...
    ——————–

    To make this uniform related… the Packers have revealed some of their apparel for their throwback uniforms this year:
    http://www.packers.c...

    And the entire Milwaukee Brewer team (along with the coaches) will sport #42 tomorrow to honor Jackie Robinson:
    http://milwaukee.bre...

  • NickW | April 14, 2010 at 9:27 am |

    O man, this post brought back some great memories of collecting these growing up. Thanks for sharing.

    I also have the Vince Coleman and Ozzie figures prominently displayed in my sports room. Seeing that kenner wall gives me some great ideas for how to display the many baseball figures that are just in boxes.

  • Joe Hilseberg | April 14, 2010 at 9:28 am |

    The O’s wore the orange just to make a change….our manager was quoted as saying he wanted to “mix things up” to try and get us out of our funk. He switched around the line-up too.

    I personally LOVE the orange, but it needs to be done right as a button down jersey

    http://hilseberg.com...

  • JTH | April 14, 2010 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”385244″]I was in a bar last night and practically spit out my beer when I looked up at a TV and saw the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays. Yo, Jack Krabbe and/or Rich Frank, care to explain?[/quote]
    Hmmm… Wasn’t there some discussion in yesterday’s comments about the reason for this?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Now I remember why I never thought much of those Starting Lineup figures.

  • Mike N. | April 14, 2010 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”385526″]Interesting note from Ryan Thompson, who writes: “A Japanese client brought some ‘Georgia’ brand canned coffees to the the office today. There’s no affiliation with the university but the package design is definitely sporting the UGA helmet stripes.”

    Georgia is actually a Coca-Cola brand, probably just by chance the colors and pattern matched.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    …and (correct me if I am wrong) but doesn’t UGA just have a single white helmet stripe? The pants striping doesn’t match this pattern either.

  • chance michaels | April 14, 2010 at 9:38 am |

    I can’t believe the NCAA doesn’t have some rule about student-athletes not wearing their uniforms in political ads.

    When Reggie White wore his Packers uniform in an anti-gay print ad, he at least got in trouble with the team and league.

  • chance michaels | April 14, 2010 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”385533″]the Packers have revealed some of their apparel for their throwback uniforms this year:
    http://www.packers.c...
    [/quote]
    Ugh.

    The 1929 Packers were not the Acme Packers. Besides, the Packers have been selling Acme Packers merchandise for about the last five years.

    If that’s the best they’ve got to tie in with the throwbacks, color me very unimpressed.

  • FormerDirtDart | April 14, 2010 at 9:41 am |

    “Look closely and you’ll see that Bonds and the other uniformed Giant in the frame are both wearing cream-colored jerseys with white pants.”
    http://imgs.sfgate.c...
    Those look like pullovers to me, did the Giants have cream BP jerseys in 2000?

  • Chris O | April 14, 2010 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”385532″][quote comment=”385530″][quote comment=”385514″]a’s ring” s+s=s stands for sweat plus sacrifice equals success…a “finleyism”

    more details here[/quote]

    Why does it say A’s 4- Met’s 3 on the top, then A’s 4-Red’s 3 on the bottom?[/quote]

    in 1972 the a’s defeated the big red machine 4 games to 3…in 1973 the a’s defeated the mets 4 games to 3

    (notice the ring takes in both years even tho it’s the 1973 ring)[/quote]

    Got ya. Odd though. But then again so was Finley.

  • Ronnie Poore | April 14, 2010 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”385521″]Today’s post makes me sorta wish I still had all the starting lineup figures I got as a kid. The lack of accuracy always bugged me though. I remember taking a blue marker and adding helmet stripes on the one Cowboys figure I had.[/quote]

    yeah, for all the other details they got right…they sure didn’t try as hard with the helmets. seems like all the helmets that are supposed to have stripes only have a single one down the middle

  • Mark K | April 14, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”385512″]Wait, is that Ron Cherry in the Chiefs SL photo the same Ron Cherry that makes a fool of himself every Saturday in the fall officiating ACC games?[/quote]
    Not unless his speed and agility have been replaced by bumbling scarecrow-like gestures.

  • Johnny O | April 14, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”385539″][quote comment=”385533″]the Packers have revealed some of their apparel for their throwback uniforms this year:
    http://www.packers.c...
    [/quote]
    Ugh.

    The 1929 Packers were not the Acme Packers. Besides, the Packers have been selling Acme Packers merchandise for about the last five years.

    If that’s the best they’ve got to tie in with the throwbacks, color me very unimpressed.[/quote]

    Not impressed either Chance. If you look at the article they state:

    “Since there wasn’t anything particularly noteworthy for the sideline apparel from that 1929 season, the team focused in on the Acme Packers, the nickname of the club in 1921-22, to draw on the first decade of the team’s existence.”

    “We wanted to give it an old-time, weathered look,” Hogan said. “It’s really about picking up the colors and what one would say has a ‘vintage’ feel to it. We really tried to think about what people would like, what they would enjoy. That’s what we try and do. We want to make sure our designs keep in mind what our fans would be looking for.”
    ————

    Sounds like a lame excuse to me, but oh well. My guess is fans will eat it up like they always do.

  • chance michaels | April 14, 2010 at 9:56 am |

    If anyone in NYC’s interested, there’s a Tweed Ride through Brooklyn coming up next month….

  • chance michaels | April 14, 2010 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”385544″][quote comment=”385539″][quote comment=”385533″]the Packers have revealed some of their apparel for their throwback uniforms this year:
    http://www.packers.c...
    [/quote]
    Ugh.

    The 1929 Packers were not the Acme Packers. Besides, the Packers have been selling Acme Packers merchandise for about the last five years.

    If that’s the best they’ve got to tie in with the throwbacks, color me very unimpressed.[/quote]

    Not impressed either Chance. If you look at the article they state:

    “Since there wasn’t anything particularly noteworthy for the sideline apparel from that 1929 season, the team focused in on the Acme Packers, the nickname of the club in 1921-22, to draw on the first decade of the team’s existence.”

    “We wanted to give it an old-time, weathered look,” Hogan said. “It’s really about picking up the colors and what one would say has a ‘vintage’ feel to it. We really tried to think about what people would like, what they would enjoy. That’s what we try and do. We want to make sure our designs keep in mind what our fans would be looking for.”
    ————

    Sounds like a lame excuse to me, but oh well. My guess is fans will eat it up like they always do.[/quote]
    If they really wanted to do that, they could have at least used the correct ACME PACKERS font. C’mon, guys. It’s not that hard.

    Really, really disappointed. I’ll buy a jersey, but nothing else.

  • scott | April 14, 2010 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”385535″]The O’s wore the orange just to make a change….our manager was quoted as saying he wanted to “mix things up” to try and get us out of our funk. He switched around the line-up too.

    I personally LOVE the orange, but it needs to be done right as a button down jersey

    http://hilseberg.com...

    So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.

  • JJD | April 14, 2010 at 10:08 am |

    That’s the “Kenner Wall” of avid collector Chuck Mathis

    The Cowboys on that wall (or at lest in the tight shot) are in their blue jerseys they never wear. That’s kind of odd. Love the Bucs creamsicle unis.

  • The Jeff | April 14, 2010 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”385536″][quote comment=”385244″]I was in a bar last night and practically spit out my beer when I looked up at a TV and saw the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays. Yo, Jack Krabbe and/or Rich Frank, care to explain?[/quote]
    Hmmm… Wasn’t there some discussion in yesterday’s comments about the reason for this?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Now I remember why I never thought much of those Starting Lineup figures.[/quote]

    Something else in that picture that bugs me slightly more than the block numbers on the Bears figures… what’s up with the sheet in the background and the unfilled part of the Cardinals logo? That’s worse than the Raiders pillowcase I have with a white facemask and incorrect striping on the helmet.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”385546″][quote comment=”385544″][quote comment=”385539″][quote comment=”385533″]the Packers have revealed some of their apparel for their throwback uniforms this year:
    http://www.packers.c...
    [/quote]
    Ugh.

    The 1929 Packers were not the Acme Packers. Besides, the Packers have been selling Acme Packers merchandise for about the last five years.

    If that’s the best they’ve got to tie in with the throwbacks, color me very unimpressed.[/quote]

    Not impressed either Chance. If you look at the article they state:

    “Since there wasn’t anything particularly noteworthy for the sideline apparel from that 1929 season, the team focused in on the Acme Packers, the nickname of the club in 1921-22, to draw on the first decade of the team’s existence.”

    “We wanted to give it an old-time, weathered look,” Hogan said. “It’s really about picking up the colors and what one would say has a ‘vintage’ feel to it. We really tried to think about what people would like, what they would enjoy. That’s what we try and do. We want to make sure our designs keep in mind what our fans would be looking for.”
    ————

    Sounds like a lame excuse to me, but oh well. My guess is fans will eat it up like they always do.[/quote]
    If they really wanted to do that, they could have at least used the correct ACME PACKERS font.

    C’mon, guys. It’s not that hard.

    Really, really disappointed. I’ll buy a jersey, but nothing else.[/quote]

    Frustrating to hear so many lament the players’ sparse knowledge of, or concern with, the history of the particular game that pays them so well.

    But, when the teams get careless, or revise, their own history (especially a team with, you would think, the sense of history of the Packers) maybe it’s just time to consider the battle lost. All the way around.

    Now, if someone says, “What does it matter” if they just use any old font and any old look…then that will be a perfect example that lazy thinking (and the dismissal of history as anything of concern) has become the mindset. Unfortunately.

    “Anything that happened before I was born can’t possibly be important, or even relevant. Now, excuse me, I have to tweet because the world is waiting to know that I stopped at KFC on my way home.”

    —Ricko

    —Ricko

  • chance michaels | April 14, 2010 at 10:21 am |

    I’d tend to agree that interlocking the “L” and “A” in the Dodger monogram is a stroke of design genius, but I wouldn’t credit Tim McAuliffe for it.

    The Los Angeles Angels of the Pacific Coast League used a fancy version in the early 1930s. The Serifs eventually streamlined it into block text. Sometimes it was one color, sometimes two, sometimes even with a drop-shadow.

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”385547″]So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.[/quote]

    pretty positive the nats did it as soon as they got their red bp jerseys in 2005

    and definitely, rose in 79 ASG

  • chance michaels | April 14, 2010 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”385550″]Frustrating to hear so many lament the players’ sparse knowledge of, or concern with, the history of the particular game that pays them so well.

    But, when the teams get careless, or revise, their own history (especially a team with, you would think, the sense of history of the Packers) maybe it’s just time to consider the battle lost. All the way around.
    [/quote]
    The Packers, alas, are notorious in this regard. For a team with all this history, you’d think they would cherish it.

    It was the cover of the 2004 media guide which inspired me to take the uniform lists I was compiling and create a real online database of every Packers uniform ever worn. There are two replicas featured on the cover of the book, and neither of them is accurate.

    This still kills me – Don Hutson being honored by the club, holding up an inaccurate throwback.

    Thought we might have been making progress, but guess there’s more work to do.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”385549″][quote comment=”385536″][quote comment=”385244″]I was in a bar last night and practically spit out my beer when I looked up at a TV and saw the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays. Yo, Jack Krabbe and/or Rich Frank, care to explain?[/quote]
    Hmmm… Wasn’t there some discussion in yesterday’s comments about the reason for this?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Now I remember why I never thought much of those Starting Lineup figures.[/quote]

    Something else in that picture that bugs me slightly more than the block numbers on the Bears figures… what’s up with the sheet in the background and the unfilled part of the Cardinals logo? That’s worse than the Raiders pillowcase I have with a white facemask and incorrect striping on the helmet.[/quote]

    Better write them a stern letter. Back date it 22 years.

    ;)

    Let’s look at the context, shall we? Those first figures were promoted as toys for kids. As such, they were the beginning of an evolutionary process, and largely one-mold-makes-all, which meant a lot of inconsistencies and “errors”. All you have to do is look at them to determine that.

    It was the demand from adults that they revealed, coupled with improvements in design and manufacturing techniques (and the detailing capabilities thereunto), that allowed them to morph into the ever more realistic items they have become.

    Tudor football figures weren’t very accurate, either.
    And the first football helmets were leather.
    TV started out black and white (man, wouldn’t you think the inventors knew something was missing?)

    —Ricko

  • Giancarlo | April 14, 2010 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”385520″]
    As to Charlie Finley, I figured the last S was “success,” but I was rooting for sex and surrealism for the first two.[/quote]
    LOL! I was thinking Sideburns and ‘Staches.

  • Jim BC | April 14, 2010 at 10:33 am |

    I was hoping the ticker would have said something like this:

    “The Phoenix Coyotes may soon be known as the Winnipeg Jets”… but alas, it does not appear to be the case. Sigh.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”385552″][quote comment=”385547″]So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.[/quote]

    pretty positive the nats did it as soon as they got their red bp jerseys in 2005

    and definitely, rose in 79 ASG[/quote]

    the Nats wore the BP jerseys early in the 2005 season, during a late afternoon game vs. the Phils (I had season tix that year). Esteban Loaiza was the starter, and Frank let the starters pick the uniform (even though they didn’t really have an alt uni, yet). Loaiza liked the lighter BP jerseys, so he picked the red BP jersey and the team wore them. It’s the only time I remember them doing that. They unveiled the red “DC” alt in 06, I think.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 10:35 am |

    I can’t believe this can still happen to a facemask:

    http://rivals.yahoo....

  • Bernard | April 14, 2010 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”385550″][quote comment=”385546″][quote comment=”385544″][quote comment=”385539″][quote comment=”385533″]the Packers have revealed some of their apparel for their throwback uniforms this year:
    http://www.packers.c...
    [/quote]
    Ugh.

    The 1929 Packers were not the Acme Packers. Besides, the Packers have been selling Acme Packers merchandise for about the last five years.

    If that’s the best they’ve got to tie in with the throwbacks, color me very unimpressed.[/quote]

    Not impressed either Chance. If you look at the article they state:

    “Since there wasn’t anything particularly noteworthy for the sideline apparel from that 1929 season, the team focused in on the Acme Packers, the nickname of the club in 1921-22, to draw on the first decade of the team’s existence.”

    “We wanted to give it an old-time, weathered look,” Hogan said. “It’s really about picking up the colors and what one would say has a ‘vintage’ feel to it. We really tried to think about what people would like, what they would enjoy. That’s what we try and do. We want to make sure our designs keep in mind what our fans would be looking for.”
    ————

    Sounds like a lame excuse to me, but oh well. My guess is fans will eat it up like they always do.[/quote]
    If they really wanted to do that, they could have at least used the correct ACME PACKERS font.

    C’mon, guys. It’s not that hard.

    Really, really disappointed. I’ll buy a jersey, but nothing else.[/quote]

    Frustrating to hear so many lament the players’ sparse knowledge of, or concern with, the history of the particular game that pays them so well.

    But, when the teams get careless, or revise, their own history (especially a team with, you would think, the sense of history of the Packers) maybe it’s just time to consider the battle lost. All the way around.

    Now, if someone says, “What does it matter” if they just use any old font and any old look…then that will be a perfect example that lazy thinking (and the dismissal of history as anything of concern) has become the mindset. Unfortunately.

    “Anything that happened before I was born can’t possibly be important, or even relevant. Now, excuse me, I have to tweet because the world is waiting to know that I stopped at KFC on my way home.”

    —Ricko

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Speaking of which, I stopped at KFC on my way home last night and got a Double Down. It was transcendent.

  • JTH | April 14, 2010 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”385552″][quote comment=”385547″]So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.[/quote]

    pretty positive the nats did it as soon as they got their red bp jerseys in 2005

    and definitely, rose in 79 ASG[/quote]
    The Cubs did it in 1997 to break a slump. They lost their first 14 games. I can’t even remember if they won the BP jersey game or not. They also wore their road caps at home at least once as a slumpbuster. It was possibly that same season, or one of their many other shitty seasons in the late 90s.

    The jersey was essentially a mesh/block-numbered version of their current alt.

    And were those BP jerseys for the Dodgers in 1999? They wore them more than once.

  • pk | April 14, 2010 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”385556″]I was hoping the ticker would have said something like this:

    “The Phoenix Coyotes may soon be known as the Winnipeg Jets”… but alas, it does not appear to be the case. Sigh.[/quote]

    I really don’t understand why the NHL would keep the team there when they obviously cannot make money, vs. putting them back in Winnipeg where though the profits won’t be high, they’d be in the black at least…”Glendale Coyotes”…rolls off the tongue or maybe the “Phoenix Coyotes of Glendale”

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 10:44 am |

    Loaiza pitching with the red BP jersey during 2005 regular season.

    http://upload.wikime...

    I’m pretty sure it was this game, April 27, 2005. The game recap includes a graf about the BP jerseys:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    “Loaiza was even dressed for success. At his request, the Washington Nationals were the D.C. Nationals for a day, wearing their red jerseys with the interlocking “DC” logo for the first time. He said he just “wanted to do something different” than wear the team’s usual white or gray uniforms.”

  • JTH | April 14, 2010 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”385549″][quote comment=”385536″][quote comment=”385244″]I was in a bar last night and practically spit out my beer when I looked up at a TV and saw the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays. Yo, Jack Krabbe and/or Rich Frank, care to explain?[/quote]
    Hmmm… Wasn’t there some discussion in yesterday’s comments about the reason for this?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Now I remember why I never thought much of those Starting Lineup figures.[/quote]

    Something else in that picture that bugs me slightly more than the block numbers on the Bears figures… what’s up with the sheet in the background and the unfilled part of the Cardinals logo? That’s worse than the Raiders pillowcase I have with a white facemask and incorrect striping on the helmet.[/quote]
    The block numbers aren’t even the worst part about the Bears figures. I can almost even overlook the plain orange stripes on the sleeves. The solid orange C on the helmet isn’t even a dealbreaker. No stripes on the socks? That’s an outrage.

  • Ryan | April 14, 2010 at 10:46 am |

    I thought there was supposed to be a Jazz uni announcement yesterday?

  • Chris from Carver | April 14, 2010 at 10:47 am |

    That picture with Williams, Musial, and Mantle has them wearing P-F Flyers, not Chucks. The dead giveaway is the ribbing on the toe, seen better in this pic. Just on basic research, I think that might be from an interview series, sponsored by BF Goodrich. http://books.google....

  • JTH | April 14, 2010 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”385559″]
    Speaking of which, I stopped at KFC on my way home last night and got a Double Down. It was transcendent.[/quote]The Double Down intrigues me. Tell me, is it better than the Famous Bowl?

  • PC Mackin | April 14, 2010 at 10:49 am |

    No offense to the Dodgers “LA”, but isn’t it really just a rip-off, I mean, modification, of the logo of their predecessors in Los Angeles, the old LA Angels of the Pacific Coast League?

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 10:49 am |

    more images of Loaiza in the BP jersey in 2005:

    http://www.gettyimag...

    http://www.gettyimag...

    http://www.gettyimag...

  • Rick Deemer | April 14, 2010 at 10:50 am |

    Thanks for the info on the S+S=S. I knew this was the place to get the answer.

  • Bernard | April 14, 2010 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”385566″][quote comment=”385559″]
    Speaking of which, I stopped at KFC on my way home last night and got a Double Down. It was transcendent.[/quote]The Double Down intrigues me. Tell me, is it better than the Famous Bowl?[/quote]

    Better than? No. Equal to? Yes, assuming you love greasy Original Recipe (which I do).

  • FormerDirtDart | April 14, 2010 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”385560″][quote comment=”385552″][quote comment=”385547″]So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.[/quote]

    pretty positive the nats did it as soon as they got their red bp jerseys in 2005

    and definitely, rose in 79 ASG[/quote]
    The Cubs did it in 1997 to break a slump. They lost their first 14 games. I can’t even remember if they won the BP jersey game or not. They also wore their road caps at home at least once as a slumpbuster. It was possibly that same season, or one of their many other shitty seasons in the late 90s.

    The jersey was essentially a mesh/block-numbered version of their current alt.

    And were those BP jerseys for the Dodgers in 1999? They wore them more than once.[/quote]
    Both of those photos look like they were taken during warm-ups to me, despite what there write-ups say. I say this because both photos show players in the background seemingly not paying attention to the action related to the photos subject. So wouldn’t the Dodgers normally be wearing BP jerseys during their warm-ups?

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 10:54 am |

    A lot of players complained about that 4:35 start in 2005 – the shadows in April at RFK made it nearly impossible to hit.

    http://www.gettyimag...

  • urbanleftbehind | April 14, 2010 at 10:54 am |

    Will the Glendale Coyotes of Maricopa County make Scott Gomez bring his papers to the press conference if they ever signed him?

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 10:59 am |

    man, what a great trip down memory lane with starting lineup figures. There were awful when you compare them to McFarlanes of today, but so what, it was all we had. I sold most of my collection to a friend and fellow collector save for a few Pittsburgh related pieces.

    Also, anyone remember Headliners?

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”385571″][quote comment=”385560″][quote comment=”385552″][quote comment=”385547″]So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.[/quote]

    pretty positive the nats did it as soon as they got their red bp jerseys in 2005

    and definitely, rose in 79 ASG[/quote]
    The Cubs did it in 1997 to break a slump. They lost their first 14 games. I can’t even remember if they won the BP jersey game or not. They also wore their road caps at home at least once as a slumpbuster. It was possibly that same season, or one of their many other shitty seasons in the late 90s.

    The jersey was essentially a mesh/block-numbered version of their current alt.

    And were those BP jerseys for the Dodgers in 1999? They wore them more than once.[/quote]
    Both of those photos look like they were taken during warm-ups to me, despite what there write-ups say. I say this because both photos show players in the background seemingly not paying attention to the action related to the photos subject. So wouldn’t the Dodgers normally be wearing BP jerseys during their warm-ups?[/quote]

    But when does the starting pitcher throw from the mound prior to the game? It was probably taken during Brown’s 8 warm up tosses just before the half inning begins. Perhaps the SS is taking grounders from the 1B.

  • scott | April 14, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”385560″]
    And were those BP jerseys for the Dodgers in 1999? They wore them more than once.[/quote]

    Those were definitely just supposed to be bp jerseys. I know the Dodgers also wore legitimate alt blue jerseys at home a few times for “Think Blue” promotions.

  • Joe D | April 14, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    Can anybody explain to me why this Team Canada hockey uniform is green?

    http://community.pos...

  • totc | April 14, 2010 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”385577″]Can anybody explain to me why this Team Canada hockey uniform is green?

    http://community.pos...

    Or why the dot on the back of the NFL helmet is green?

  • Matthew Robins | April 14, 2010 at 11:05 am |

    The three Starling Lineup figures on my desk are: Bo Jackson (Royals), Ed Belfour (Blackhawks) and my favorite athlete of all time, Stacey Augmon (Hawks).

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”385574″]man, what a great trip down memory lane with starting lineup figures. There were awful when you compare them to McFarlanes of today, but so what, it was all we had. I sold most of my collection to a friend and fellow collector save for a few Pittsburgh related pieces.

    Also, anyone remember Headliners?[/quote]
    quoting my own post…I know, I know!

    First that should have read “They were awful”

    Also, two of my favorites (technically three) were the Baseball Greats double pack with Stargell and Clemente: http://twitpic.com/1... and the Tony Dorsett in Pitt uni with mini Heisman Trophy: http://guidestobuy.c...

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 11:10 am |

    The Rays wore them a couple years ago, right? Their navy BP jerseys, for a road game, I think.

  • Kaptain K | April 14, 2010 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”385528″]As for the A’s rings , Dick Williams used to jokingly say it meant “sh*t + sh*t = more sh*t”[/quote]

    Looks like it was a team-wide sentiment:
    http://en.wikipedia....

    I was doing some research a few months ago on the California Golden Seals and was shocked to see that Finley owned them for four years, that’s how I stumbled upon his Wikipedia entry; it’s a fascinating read! At the very least, read the paragraph above the “Quote” section.

    As far as the 1973 ring goes, if your team just won back-to-back World Series titles, I think it would be “odd” NOT to tout it on your ring. Granted, Finley WAS eccentric as hell, but he got things done… and he made sure people took notice.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 11:22 am |

    “What’s interesting about this photo of Barry Bonds taking batting practice at Pac Bell Park in January of 2000? Look closely and you’ll see that Bonds and the other uniformed Giant in the frame are both wearing cream-colored jerseys with white pants. The cream uniforms debuted that season, so maybe the pants hadn’t arrived yet.”

    January? In Good bet the new pants had been delivered to the Giants Spring Training facility (first place they’d get used) and were in the process of being tailored for returning players. But there probably still were some old white ones in the Bay Area.

    Whereas they DID have a few new cream jerseys around for marquee players for PR and retail purposes.

    “Shit, we don’t have any new pants for this photo op.”
    “Aw, hell, no will notice they don’t match.”

    Oh, but we will.
    Eventually.

    —Ricko

    —Ricko

  • War Damn Eagle | April 14, 2010 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”385581″]The Rays wore them a couple years ago, right? Their navy BP jerseys, for a road game, I think.[/quote]

    Found it. May 2008 for an interleague series:

    http://www.gettyimag...

    http://www.gettyimag...
    (also note Ben Zobrist’s ‘rups)

    http://www.gettyimag...

  • Frank from B-more | April 14, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    I love Joe’s design for the new O’s alternate. Get rid of the black and go back to the orange. Unfortunately, even a change in jersey couldn’t help our Bull Pen save the victory last night. Go wOes.

  • Geeman | April 14, 2010 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”385524″]I used to LOVE the Orioles orange alts in the late 70’s-early 80’s ish era. They should just dump the crappy black alts they have now, take the side stipes off those BP shirts, and make them their full time 3rd jersey.[/quote]

    Love the orange alts too. Why not have both, like the Red Sox have red and blue?

  • Geeman | April 14, 2010 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”385576″][quote comment=”385560″]
    And were those BP jerseys for the Dodgers in 1999? They wore them more than once.[/quote]

    Those were definitely just supposed to be bp jerseys. I know the Dodgers also wore legitimate alt blue jerseys at home a few times for “Think Blue” promotions.[/quote]

    They wore BPs in ’98 and actually regular jerseys in ’99.

  • Thomps | April 14, 2010 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”385537″][quote comment=”385526″]Interesting note from Ryan Thompson, who writes: “A Japanese client brought some ‘Georgia’ brand canned coffees to the the office today. There’s no affiliation with the university but the package design is definitely sporting the UGA helmet stripes.”

    Georgia is actually a Coca-Cola brand, probably just by chance the colors and pattern matched.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    …and (correct me if I am wrong) but doesn’t UGA just have a single white helmet stripe? The pants striping doesn’t match this pattern either.[/quote]

    Absolutely right, I was thinking of their old red pants from the 80’s. If Coke is going to rep a school’s colors in their packaging, why not the hometown Yellow Jackets?

  • Mike | April 14, 2010 at 11:35 am |

    The Sounders are getting a 3rd jersey. Grey and Yellow seem to be the popular suspects…
    http://gosounders.co...

  • Sisdog | April 14, 2010 at 11:39 am |

    According to the broadcast last night the Orioles wore the BP jerseys to try and change thier luck. Starting off the season with a 5 and now 6 game losing streak and to lose them in the fashion that they have, I think they may need a little change. btw I like the Black alts, but would like them to add the white outline again.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 11:54 am |

    So Johnny O’s annual triva contest includes a photo of Frank Lovejoy.

    Here’s Lovejoy again. With some other actor in a baseball movie. Think that guy went into politics or something later on.
    http://www.imdb.com/...

    —Ricko

  • Jeff S. | April 14, 2010 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”385540″]”Look closely and you’ll see that Bonds and the other uniformed Giant in the frame are both wearing cream-colored jerseys with white pants.”
    http://imgs.sfgate.c...
    Those look like pullovers to me, did the Giants have cream BP jerseys in 2000?[/quote]

    They did! And if memory serves correctly, they were super-meshy, too. Also, the striping on the sleeve didn’t extend to the base of the cuff, leaving a little strip of cream. The replica jerseys are still like that to this day.

    Replica:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    Authentic:
    http://www.totalpros...

  • Bob Loblaw | April 14, 2010 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”385519″]I loved the Starting Lineup figures, and I wish I still had my Astros sets. I also wish I still had my Terry Bradshaw…

    Paul, according to the O’s TV guys, the O’s wore their BP jerseys last night just to do something different and to break out of the funk they were in.[/quote]
    Following this ‘logic’– the Mets might have to go to the ‘rally cap’ right from the opening pitch of their ballgames.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 12:18 pm |

    Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko

  • JIMC | April 14, 2010 at 12:24 pm |

    I dunno if this has ben mentioned here before, but, when I was watching the SF game last week, the announcers were talking about the “Francicso” jersey & Krukow mentioned he/they paid the attendant $100 to have it spelled “LaSodra” on the back of his jersey. I finally looked it up & came up w-this from the bottom of page 258 of “The Giants and the Dodgers: four cities, two teams, one rivalry
    By Andrew Goldblatt” book:
    http://books.google....

    I don’t have an audio, but, looked at the time I saw it: It was on 4/8/2010 at 3:20PT, if anyone has an MLB.TV subscription to hear it.

    Sorry for the wordiness here, but, good story.

  • Jim BC | April 14, 2010 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”385577″]Can anybody explain to me why this Team Canada hockey uniform is green?

    http://community.pos...
    The 2010 World Junion Hockey Championship was held in Saskatchewan, a province that bleeds green because of the Canadian Football League’s Roughriders. Team Canada wore green to honour Rider Pride.

  • JimV19 | April 14, 2010 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”385580″][quote comment=”385574″]man, what a great trip down memory lane with starting lineup figures. There were awful when you compare them to McFarlanes of today, but so what, it was all we had. I sold most of my collection to a friend and fellow collector save for a few Pittsburgh related pieces.

    Also, anyone remember Headliners?[/quote]
    quoting my own post…I know, I know!

    First that should have read “They were awful”

    Also, two of my favorites (technically three) were the Baseball Greats double pack with Stargell and Clemente: http://twitpic.com/1... and the Tony Dorsett in Pitt uni with mini Heisman Trophy: http://guidestobuy.c...

    I have that Stargell figure – my dad or brother has the Clemente. Don’t have the Dorsett, but I have a larger Dan Marino (made by some other company) in a Pitt uni.

    I used to have a handful of SLUs. The only other one I have now is a Terry Bradshaw. What, no kickers in the original set? I’d love to have a Mark Moseley and a Gary Anderson.

    My brother has a ton of SLUs, but no Marc Wilson. Nor any other QB with the under-the-center pose. I’d never seen that until today.

    Um, am I supposed to believe this http://i542.photobuc... is Joe Montana? Looks more like Scott Bakula: http://zembla.cement...

  • Frankie | April 14, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    This morning the Miami Dolphins traded for Brandon Marshall and then signed him to a contract extension. He wore 15 with the Broncos, but that number is currently worn by Devon Bess. Barring Marshall paying someone for their number, or demanding that they give it up since he is now the highest paid receiver in the NFL, his options are:

    14
    18
    87
    88

    I’m putting in a bet for 14.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”385598″]This morning the Miami Dolphins traded for Brandon Marshall and then signed him to a contract extension. He wore 15 with the Broncos, but that number is currently worn by Devon Bess. Barring Marshall paying someone for their number, or demanding that they give it up since he is now the highest paid receiver in the NFL, his options are:

    14
    18
    87
    88

    I’m putting in a bet for 14.[/quote]

    Something else to ponder (just PONDER, not predict).
    Does a team suddenly finding itself with an extra second-round choice and Kyle Orton as their current guy take a shot at Tim Tebow earlier than maybe expected if he’s still on the board in Round Two?

    —Ricko

  • hofflalu | April 14, 2010 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=\”385564\”]I thought there was supposed to be a Jazz uni announcement yesterday?[/quote]

    I hadn\’t found anything yet on the web, but maybe someone else knows something?

  • scott | April 14, 2010 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”385584″]
    Found it. May 2008 for an interleague series:

    http://www.gettyimag...

    http://www.gettyimag...
    (also note Ben Zobrist’s ‘rups)

    http://www.gettyimag...

    Thanks! So at least three teams, the Rays, Orioles and Mariners, have worn these BP jerseys with the side panels in regular season games…

  • Wollen1 | April 14, 2010 at 12:53 pm |

    So, they take the beloved Winnipeg Jets and eventually make them the Glendale Coyotes. Yeah, that sounds major league. Good work NHL.

    If Gary Bettman stays comissioner for another decade, roller derby is going to be outdrawing the league and have a better TV contract. Who knows? It might already. Disgusting.

  • Bill G | April 14, 2010 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”385599″][quote comment=”385598″]This morning the Miami Dolphins traded for Brandon Marshall and then signed him to a contract extension. He wore 15 with the Broncos, but that number is currently worn by Devon Bess. Barring Marshall paying someone for their number, or demanding that they give it up since he is now the highest paid receiver in the NFL, his options are:

    14
    18
    87
    88

    I’m putting in a bet for 14.[/quote]

    Something else to ponder (just PONDER, not predict).
    Does a team suddenly finding itself with an extra second-round choice and Kyle Orton as their current guy take a shot at Tim Tebow earlier than maybe expected if he’s still on the board in Round Two?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Don’t forget, Brady Quinn’s in Denver as well. Not that it would take much for Tebow to overtake them in a year or two.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 14, 2010 at 1:17 pm |

    I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”385603″][quote comment=”385599″][quote comment=”385598″]This morning the Miami Dolphins traded for Brandon Marshall and then signed him to a contract extension. He wore 15 with the Broncos, but that number is currently worn by Devon Bess. Barring Marshall paying someone for their number, or demanding that they give it up since he is now the highest paid receiver in the NFL, his options are:

    14
    18
    87
    88

    I’m putting in a bet for 14.[/quote]

    Something else to ponder (just PONDER, not predict).
    Does a team suddenly finding itself with an extra second-round choice and Kyle Orton as their current guy take a shot at Tim Tebow earlier than maybe expected if he’s still on the board in Round Two?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Don’t forget, Brady Quinn’s in Denver as well. Not that it would take much for Tebow to overtake them in a year or two.[/quote]

    ’tis true, ’tis true.
    But, from an NFL owner’s standpoint, the beauty is you can cut a guy and not have to pay him. And it isn’t like they paid Quinn big money up front (as in: Vikings, Sage Rosenfels).

    Plus, it occurs me that the Broncos might recall they had a pretty good run with a “Good Citizen” kinda guy at QB. Not to say Tebow has Elway-esque gifts and techniques coming in, though. Hardly.

    Again, not predicting, just seeing a possible scenario (because of that Broncos extra #2 pick).

    Gonna be an interesting first two rounds this year, I think. Could be several “Hmmm, now what does THAT move tell us?” developments.

    Maybe watch for this one: Colt McCoy holding up a Cardinals jersey…if he’s still around once after once they’re past their first selection. Lotta reasons that’s very plausible. Although, between you and me, McCoy is a natural for the CFL. Very Flutie-like, and obviously their game suits a guy like that.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”385597″][quote comment=”385580″][quote comment=”385574″]man, what a great trip down memory lane with starting lineup figures. There were awful when you compare them to McFarlanes of today, but so what, it was all we had. I sold most of my collection to a friend and fellow collector save for a few Pittsburgh related pieces.

    Also, anyone remember Headliners?[/quote]
    quoting my own post…I know, I know!

    First that should have read “They were awful”

    Also, two of my favorites (technically three) were the Baseball Greats double pack with Stargell and Clemente: http://twitpic.com/1... and the Tony Dorsett in Pitt uni with mini Heisman Trophy: http://guidestobuy.c...

    I have that Stargell figure – my dad or brother has the Clemente. Don’t have the Dorsett, but I have a larger Dan Marino (made by some other company) in a Pitt uni.

    I used to have a handful of SLUs. The only other one I have now is a Terry Bradshaw. What, no kickers in the original set? I’d love to have a Mark Moseley and a Gary Anderson.

    My brother has a ton of SLUs, but no Marc Wilson. Nor any other QB with the under-the-center pose. I’d never seen that until today.

    Um, am I supposed to believe this http://i542.photobuc... is Joe Montana? Looks more like Scott Bakula: http://zembla.cement...
    Yes, I have that Marino figure as well as Rod Woodson in a Purdue uni. I think it was Best that was the brand name on those.

    I’d love to have this double pack: http://ecx.images-am...

  • Johnny O | April 14, 2010 at 1:31 pm |

    Check out what some students form my alma mater (St. Norbert College) have created. Kind of creepy and cool at the same time:

    http://www.greenbayp...

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”385608″]Check out what some students form my alma mater (St. Norbert College) have created. Kind of creepy and cool at the same time:

    http://www.greenbayp...

    I dunno. Any guy who made his wife and kids kneel on the hard concrete floor outside the main sanctuary to do their praying at Sunday Mass…

    I mean, you gotta tilt your head at least a LITTLE when you ponder his position in the pantheon of things.

    —Ricko

  • Bernard | April 14, 2010 at 1:52 pm |

    WVU will wear helmet decals to honor the 29 miners killed in an explosion earlier this month:

    http://postgazette.c...

  • Chris B. | April 14, 2010 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”385547″][quote comment=”385535″]The O’s wore the orange just to make a change….our manager was quoted as saying he wanted to “mix things up” to try and get us out of our funk. He switched around the line-up too.

    I personally LOVE the orange, but it needs to be done right as a button down jersey

    http://hilseberg.com...

    So how many times have teams worn BP jerseys in a regular-season game? Is anyone tracking this phenomenon? I know the Mariners have done it, and the Expos did it years ago. And wasn’t there a photo showing Kevin Brown as a Dodger wearing a BP jersey while pitching in Pittsburgh? Pete Rose also wore his BP jersey in the ’79 All Star Game.[/quote]

    The Nationals did it in a 2005 home game as they wanted to mix things up and didn\’t have an alterante jersey for their first season in DC.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 14, 2010 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”385606″][quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.[/quote]

    I did say “up until then.” Since then Raider fans have had to contend with

    – Jay Schroeder
    – Todd Marinovich
    – Jeff George
    – Kerry Collins
    – Aaron Brooks
    – JaMarcus Russell

    And I’m not counting guys who started a game or two here or there, like Rusty Hilger, Steve Beuerlein, Vince Evans, Billy Joe Hobert, Wade Wilson, Donald Hollas, Marques Tuiasosopo, Andrew Walter, and anyone else I’m forgetting.

    Jeff Hostetler had a couple of good years there, and Rich Gannon obviously was the most successful Raider QB since Jim Plunkett.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”385612″][quote comment=”385606″][quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.[/quote]

    I did say “up until then.” Since then Raider fans have had to contend with

    – Jay Schroeder
    – Todd Marinovich
    – Jeff George
    – Kerry Collins
    – Aaron Brooks
    – JaMarcus Russell

    And I’m not counting guys who started a game or two here or there, like Rusty Hilger, Steve Beuerlein, Vince Evans, Billy Joe Hobert, Wade Wilson, Donald Hollas, Marques Tuiasosopo, Andrew Walter, and anyone else I’m forgetting.

    Jeff Hostetler had a couple of good years there, and Rich Gannon obviously was the most successful Raider QB since Jim Plunkett.[/quote]

    Indeed you did. Say “up until then”, that is. Noticed it AFTER I posted.
    I just always instantly flash on Marinovich, and now Russell, when someone mentions Raider mega-washouts at QB (meaning actual performance compared to expectations).

    —Ricko

  • Chris B. | April 14, 2010 at 2:35 pm |

    yeah, I guess the Nats 2005 bp jersey game was covered a few times above!

    When the new Orioles uniforms were unveiled prior to last season, Jim Hunter (emcee) said that with names now on the back of the bp jersey, they could now be worn in a regular season game if the club opts to do so. Of course this is the first time they have done so.

    complete unveiling video: http://www.masnsport...

  • M.Princip | April 14, 2010 at 2:35 pm |

    Excellent writeup on the Starting Lineup figures Mario. Still don’t understand why they never did a Steve Largent figure?

    Love how they all look like R.Crumb designed them.

  • KT | April 14, 2010 at 2:35 pm |

    I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 2:36 pm |

    Target Field getting rained on, btw.

  • pk | April 14, 2010 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”385606″][quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.[/quote]

    But I still don’t understand why he was given a “figure”…wasn’t he being swapped out constantly with Plunkett…or was it just because he was the QB that year (88)…(not really up on my Raider QB history)

  • kj | April 14, 2010 at 2:40 pm |

    Alright… there are stirrups… and then there are these things. Bwuh?

  • rpm | April 14, 2010 at 2:47 pm |

    anyone care to guess where out stirrups are? natch, they were sent to albequerque new mexico. the revolution is frustrated.

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”385616″] Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    who?

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”385618″][quote comment=”385606″][quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.[/quote]

    But I still don’t understand why he was given a “figure”…wasn’t he being swapped out constantly with Plunkett…or was it just because he was the QB that year (88)…(not really up on my Raider QB history)[/quote]

    Keep in mind, again, those originally were marketed as kids toys, not aimed at adults as collectibles. They were introduced at places like Children’s Palace and Toys R Us, next to Slinkys, Slip n’ Slides and genuine glow-in-the-dark Light Sabers. One step above savings Captain Crunch box tops so you could send away for the whole set.

    Their perception was (and probably rightly so) that a typical 6-year-old back then likely didn’t know Marc Wilson from a Mars Bar.

    There’d been nothing like them on the market, and the sales to detail-oriented adults took the manufacturers more than a little by surprise.

    After they realized it, they significantly (and understandably) altered their approach to creating them.

    —Ricko

  • mightyjoeyoung | April 14, 2010 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”385594″]Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko….you missed a guy right under your nose, Justin Morneau sports the Reeboks.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 14, 2010 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”385618″][quote comment=”385606″][quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.[/quote]

    But I still don’t understand why he was given a “figure”…wasn’t he being swapped out constantly with Plunkett…or was it just because he was the QB that year (88)…(not really up on my Raider QB history)[/quote]

    That’s a good question. Wilson and Plunkett were back and forth in ’83 and ’84, although they won the SB with Plunkett in ’83. Plunkett was injured all through ’85 and Wilson was the guy; they went 12-4 but were upset in the playoffs by New England. ’86 was Wilson again, but by late season he had stunk things up so badly they had to dust Plunkett off again. ’87 started with Rusty Hilger, who went 2-0 before the strike but terrible after; Wilson took over in mid-season and then ended 5-10, first losing season since ’63, and Flores quit. Shanahan took over in ’88, released Plunkett at the end of preseason, and anointed Beuerlein, but then they traded for Jay Schroeder; he & Beuerlein went back & forth in ’88 and ’89 before Beuerlein was let go and Schroeder became the main guy in ’90. He started through the end of ’91 when he got hurt and Marinovich took over for the last regular season game and the wild card loss. ’92 started with Schroeder 0-3 then went back & forth between the two. Hostetler arrived in ’93.

  • Ricko | April 14, 2010 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”385623″][quote comment=”385594″]Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko….you missed a guy right under your nose, Justin Morneau sports the Reeboks.[/quote]

    Said I’d seen some Reeboks. Just not many.
    But adidas seem to be really scarce this season.

    Vlad Guerrero still wearing them?
    He and Santana were two of those most aligned with the brand as I recall (off the top of my head, anyway).

    —Ricko

  • mike 2 | April 14, 2010 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    I used to have a Mark Prior but my Dusty Baker ripped its arm off.

  • Jeremy | April 14, 2010 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”385625″][quote comment=”385623″][quote comment=”385594″]Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko….you missed a guy right under your nose, Justin Morneau sports the Reeboks.[/quote]

    Said I’d seen some Reeboks. Just not many.
    But adidas seem to be really scarce this season.

    Vlad Guerrero still wearing them?
    He and Santana were two of those most aligned with the brand as I recall (off the top of my head, anyway).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Adidas are pretty popular with the Phillies- Howard, Utley, Werth, and Hamels all wear them
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Broadway Connie | April 14, 2010 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”385545″]If anyone in NYC’s interested, there’s a Tweed Ride through Brooklyn coming up next month….[/quote]

    Rats! I thought a Tweed Ride would entail a tour of Boss Tweed public works projects…

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]
    trade you my Dontrelle Willis!!!

  • Jeremy | April 14, 2010 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”385627″][quote comment=”385625″][quote comment=”385623″][quote comment=”385594″]Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko….you missed a guy right under your nose, Justin Morneau sports the Reeboks.[/quote]

    Said I’d seen some Reeboks. Just not many.
    But adidas seem to be really scarce this season.

    Vlad Guerrero still wearing them?
    He and Santana were two of those most aligned with the brand as I recall (off the top of my head, anyway).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Adidas are pretty popular with the Phillies- Howard, Utley, Werth, and Hamels all wear them
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...

    and yes- Vlad is still wearing adidas
    http://www.zimbio.co...

  • KT | April 14, 2010 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”385626″][quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    I used to have a Mark Prior but my Dusty Baker ripped its arm off.[/quote]

    Click here.

  • rpm | April 14, 2010 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”385628″][quote comment=”385545″]If anyone in NYC’s interested, there’s a Tweed Ride through Brooklyn coming up next month….[/quote]

    Rats! I thought a Tweed Ride would entail a tour of Boss Tweed public works projects…[/quote]

    broadway just dropped the tammany bomb, don’t see that much.

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”385620″]anyone care to guess where out stirrups are? natch, they were sent to albequerque new mexico. the revolution is frustrated.[/quote]

    imo guess…

    albuquerque???

  • JimV19 | April 14, 2010 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    Trade you my Ben Roethlisberger for it. It doesn’t like being in the same house as my Bradshaw Starting Lineup anymore…

  • JimV19 | April 14, 2010 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”385622″][quote comment=”385618″]But I still don’t understand why he was given a “figure”…wasn’t he being swapped out constantly with Plunkett…or was it just because he was the QB that year (88)…(not really up on my Raider QB history)[/quote]

    Keep in mind, again, those originally were marketed as kids toys, not aimed at adults as collectibles. They were introduced at places like Children’s Palace and Toys R Us, next to Slinkys, Slip n’ Slides and genuine glow-in-the-dark Light Sabers. One step above savings Captain Crunch box tops so you could send away for the whole set.[/quote]

    Wow – Children’s Palace. Loved that place.

    As Mario said, every team had at least one QB, so if Wilson was starting, that’s the reason he had a figure.

    Wish I had a Steelers Todd Blackledge. With a little strip of reusable tape I could turn him into Neil O’Donnell as well. Can’t beat a 2-for-1 deal like that…

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”385634″][quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    Trade you my Ben Roethlisberger for it. It doesn’t like being in the same house as my Bradshaw Starting Lineup anymore…[/quote]
    http://farm5.static....

  • Rob Turning | April 14, 2010 at 4:31 pm |

    “the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays.” Don’t worry. Almost no one saw it… Attendance: 13,731 (28.5% full).

  • JimV19 | April 14, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”385636″][quote comment=”385634″][quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    Trade you my Ben Roethlisberger for it. It doesn’t like being in the same house as my Bradshaw Starting Lineup anymore…[/quote]
    http://farm5.static....

    :)

    Is that your personal collection, Doug?

  • Anthony Verna | April 14, 2010 at 4:51 pm |

    Albuquerque?!?

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”385638″]”the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays.” Don’t worry. Almost no one saw it… Attendance: 13,731 (28.5% full).[/quote]

    well…that’s 4602 more than saw monday’s game: monday set a camden yards record low attendance of 9,129

    ouch

  • Anthony Verna | April 14, 2010 at 4:54 pm |

    McFarlands that I have. . . Mike Schmidt in road baby blue. . . Dr. J. in road blue from the 70s 76ers. . . and I bought my dad a Brian Westbrook. (Yeah, I know. I need more.)

  • rpm | April 14, 2010 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”385633″][quote comment=”385620″]anyone care to guess where out stirrups are? natch, they were sent to albequerque new mexico. the revolution is frustrated.[/quote]

    imo guess…

    albuquerque???[/quote]

    ups loader error. i had been trying to get a hold of melodee for a couple days, she calls up the tracker, and i could just sense her head spinning. she sounds like a little old southern lady(because she is)…”hm, way’ll, it says here they are in route, that doesn’t make sense, they were shipped last winsdee, they’re, they’re in albequerque?! let me call you back hon.” i love the linguistics. ah need to moob back ta bawlmer sao ah kin git ma bawlamer assent bake. den agayn, ah would have ta watch dem aO’s, da wretch ob da big ligs, sao nary you mond what ah said hon.

  • Wollen1 | April 14, 2010 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”385638″]”the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays.” Don’t worry. Almost no one saw it… Attendance: 13,731 (28.5% full).[/quote]

    You know, I’ve noticed attendance way down in a lot of ballparks at the beginning of the season. Usually, it seems that even the crappy teams will draw a decent number of fans early in the season, but that doesn’t appear to be the case in 2010.

    I saw an A’s Mariners game the other night where it looked like there were less than 5K in the Coliseum. It even looked like the Trop was at half capacity on Saturday when they hosted the Yankees for Christ sakes.

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”385639″][quote comment=”385636″][quote comment=”385634″][quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    Trade you my Ben Roethlisberger for it. It doesn’t like being in the same house as my Bradshaw Starting Lineup anymore…[/quote]
    http://farm5.static....

    :)

    Is that your personal collection, Doug?[/quote]
    yes, i have some photos of the wall somewhere, give me a minute

  • Mark K | April 14, 2010 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”385644″][quote comment=”385638″]”the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays.” Don’t worry. Almost no one saw it… Attendance: 13,731 (28.5% full).[/quote]

    You know, I’ve noticed attendance way down in a lot of ballparks at the beginning of the season. Usually, it seems that even the crappy teams will draw a decent number of fans early in the season, but that doesn’t appear to be the case in 2010.

    I saw an A’s Mariners game the other night where it looked like there were less than 5K in the Coliseum. It even looked like the Trop was at half capacity on Saturday when they hosted the Yankees for Christ sakes.[/quote]
    They should make all games interleague in April.

  • Kek | April 14, 2010 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”385646″][quote comment=”385639″][quote comment=”385636″][quote comment=”385634″][quote comment=”385616″]I believe the only Starting Lineup figure I still have is Danny Wuerffel. Came with a mini Heisman Trophy. Good times.

    Now, MacFarlanes…that’s a different story. Anybody want to buy a Mark Prior?[/quote]

    Trade you my Ben Roethlisberger for it. It doesn’t like being in the same house as my Bradshaw Starting Lineup anymore…[/quote]
    http://farm5.static....

    :)

    Is that your personal collection, Doug?[/quote]
    yes, i have some photos of the wall somewhere, give me a minute[/quote]

    Vilk, here’s a very outdated photo of the collection and display, I’ll post an updated photo when I take it.

    Off the the Arena….LET’S GO PENS! LET’S GO PENS!

  • Andrew | April 14, 2010 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”385535″]The O’s wore the orange just to make a change….our manager was quoted as saying he wanted to “mix things up” to try and get us out of our funk. He switched around the line-up too.

    I personally LOVE the orange, but it needs to be done right as a button down jersey

    http://hilseberg.com...

    I caught a bit of the game on the radio on my way home from school last night. The announcers said they were wearing orange jerseys because they gave away orange Matt Wieters t-shirts.

  • KT | April 14, 2010 at 6:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”385647″]They should make all games interleague in April.[/quote]

    And run the risk of more rainouts that are very difficult to make up?

    There’s a reason they do most interleague games in June.

  • KT | April 14, 2010 at 6:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”385561″]I really don’t understand why the NHL would keep the team there when they obviously cannot make money, vs. putting them back in Winnipeg where though the profits won’t be high, they’d be in the black at least…”Glendale Coyotes”…rolls off the tongue or maybe the “Phoenix Coyotes of Glendale”[/quote]

    Given the history of small-market Canadian teams and the NHL, what, exactly makes you think they’d be profitable in Winnipeg? They weren’t profitable in Winnipeg the first time, why would it be different now?

    I’ve only lived here 2 and a half years, but in that time, everybody has always said that if they won, they’d be fine. We’re going to find out.

    Reinsdorf apparently feels they CAN make money here, if the lease is re-done (which the city council is apparently okay with). And if the NHL were to take the team away, we’d have ourselves a nice lawsuit because the city and taxpayers are still on the hook for a bunch of money ($185M? More?) for the arena. They’re going to sue somebody if the team moves. Better to not go through that.

    Definitely better to keep the team here for the short-term and see if someone really CAN make a go of it with a competitive team. I’m skeptical, because they’re playing on the totally wrong side of the Valley, but it is what it is. I reckon plenty of people will find their way to the west side tonight and Friday night.

  • KT | April 14, 2010 at 6:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”385602″]So, they take the beloved Winnipeg Jets and eventually make them the Glendale Coyotes. Yeah, that sounds major league. Good work NHL.[/quote]

    a – if they were really “beloved,” they wouldn’t have been drawing 11k a game at the end of their run in Winnipeg.
    b – the move happened 15 years ago. The rationale and whatnot were beaten to death then.
    c – the “Glendale” thing hasn’t happened yet. It could be “Arizona,” which would be in line with most other teams except the Suns, obviously. But it’s probably a term of any revamped lease deal, much like the Marlins becoming the Miami Marlins when they move into their new ballpark. Cities are getting pretty strident about these things.

  • HAL | April 14, 2010 at 6:47 pm |

    The story about the LA logo was interesting, but they Yankees logo isn’t black and white, their colors are Navy blue and white. It surprises me how many people think their colors are black and white.

  • Teebz | April 14, 2010 at 7:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”385652″][quote comment=”385602″]So, they take the beloved Winnipeg Jets and eventually make them the Glendale Coyotes. Yeah, that sounds major league. Good work NHL.[/quote]

    a – if they were really “beloved,” they wouldn’t have been drawing 11k a game at the end of their run in Winnipeg.
    b – the move happened 15 years ago. The rationale and whatnot were beaten to death then.
    c – the “Glendale” thing hasn’t happened yet. It could be “Arizona,” which would be in line with most other teams except the Suns, obviously. But it’s probably a term of any revamped lease deal, much like the Marlins becoming the Miami Marlins when they move into their new ballpark. Cities are getting pretty strident about these things.[/quote]

    A) 11,000 for a terrible team in a 15,000 arena is pretty damned good. See turnouts in the following cities: Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Miami.

    B) The rationale gets brought up again and again, but it remains to be stated that the Coyotes have lost $300 million since moving 15 years ago. I’m not saying Winnipeg is better, but that’s 3/4 of a Toronto expansion fee. Southern Ontario, anyone?

    C) It will undoubtedly be “Arizona Coyotes” due to the fact that Glendale and Phoenix are so close together, spanning them across two cities essentially. Examples: Any team based in Minneapolis/St. Paul, and the Rangers in Arlington are the Texas Rangers.

  • ren | April 14, 2010 at 7:11 pm |
  • Tim M | April 14, 2010 at 7:18 pm |

    Hmmmm, Twins wear the softball jerseys today and lose. Coincidence????

  • rpm | April 14, 2010 at 7:32 pm |

    opening night for stats league softball, and i am supposed to be at my nightmare 2 minutes ago, so briefly…
    jth~ in response to your comment yesterday. i couldn’t post it because it was still uploading(irony, on the day you call me a hippie i shot this…grrrrrr), so i had to get all cutter on you, but i can now respond with…this. there are a couple others too, but i still need to upload the photos and stuff.

  • Matthew Robins | April 14, 2010 at 7:33 pm |

    New Expos shirt…in French! http://www.icejersey...

  • Allie | April 14, 2010 at 7:50 pm |

    I’m a little confused regarding the guest writer’s figurine collection. He said that the only one that he is missing appears packaged on Ebay fairly often, although it is almost never on just lose. Is he specifically looking for a lose one? If the packaged ones appear online somewhat frequently, why doesn’t he just buy one to complete his collection? Am I missing something?

  • The Jeff | April 14, 2010 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”385659″]I’m a little confused regarding the guest writer’s figurine collection. He said that the only one that he is missing appears packaged on Ebay fairly often, although it is almost never on just lose. Is he specifically looking for a lose one? If the packaged ones appear online somewhat frequently, why doesn’t he just buy one to complete his collection? Am I missing something?[/quote]

    Could be a price issue. The link to ebay with the packaged figure is almost $700. A loose figure is going to cost a lot less. Seriously who wants to pay $700 for a player that wasn’t even any good?

  • LI Phil | April 14, 2010 at 9:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”385660″]
    Seriously who wants to pay $700 for a player that wasn’t even any good?[/quote]

    omar minaya, jeff wilpon

  • jesse | April 14, 2010 at 9:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”385661″][quote comment=”385660″]
    Seriously who wants to pay $700 for a player that wasn’t even any good?[/quote]

    omar minaya, jeff wilpon[/quote]
    ladies and gents, we have a winner, quote of the day.

  • Kaptain K | April 14, 2010 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”385660″][quote comment=”385659″]I’m a little confused regarding the guest writer’s figurine collection. He said that the only one that he is missing appears packaged on Ebay fairly often, although it is almost never on just lose. Is he specifically looking for a lose one? If the packaged ones appear online somewhat frequently, why doesn’t he just buy one to complete his collection? Am I missing something?[/quote]

    Could be a price issue. The link to ebay with the packaged figure is almost $700. A loose figure is going to cost a lot less. Seriously who wants to pay $700 for a player that wasn’t even any good?[/quote]

    The same guy who wants to buy Jim Otto’s original Oakland Raiders poncho?

  • Allie | April 14, 2010 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”385663″][quote comment=”385660″][quote comment=”385659″]I’m a little confused regarding the guest writer’s figurine collection. He said that the only one that he is missing appears packaged on Ebay fairly often, although it is almost never on just lose. Is he specifically looking for a lose one? If the packaged ones appear online somewhat frequently, why doesn’t he just buy one to complete his collection? Am I missing something?[/quote]

    Could be a price issue. The link to ebay with the packaged figure is almost $700. A loose figure is going to cost a lot less. Seriously who wants to pay $700 for a player that wasn’t even any good?[/quote]

    The same guy who wants to buy Jim Otto’s original Oakland Raiders poncho?[/quote]

    Oh, OK, I just assumed it was a fairly reasonable price since he wrote at the beginning that most of the figures sell for pennies online.

  • Mike Engle | April 14, 2010 at 10:13 pm |

    Congratulations, Phoenix Glendale, AZ. You’ve taken the Winnipeg tradition, and now your fans look like they’re with the Red Wings.
    /Back to white at home, please, NHL.

  • scott | April 14, 2010 at 10:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”385650″][quote comment=”385647″]They should make all games interleague in April.[/quote]

    And run the risk of more rainouts that are very difficult to make up?

    There’s a reason they do most interleague games in June.[/quote]

    Yeah, the reason is because that’s when kids are getting out of school and MLB can pump up the attendance numbers and try to make the argument that interleague play is popular. It has nothing to do with rainouts, especially considering that many NL teams only visit cities once each season, like the Dodgers visiting Pittsburgh for the opening series of the year.

  • traxel | April 14, 2010 at 10:45 pm |

    Hey Teebz, don’t know if I got in the pool or not but it looks like it doesn’t matter. Already oh fer tew. I think I did it wrong anyway. Probably disqualified.

  • Shaun | April 14, 2010 at 10:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”385644″][quote comment=”385638″]”the O’s wearing their BP jerseys against the Rays.” Don’t worry. Almost no one saw it… Attendance: 13,731 (28.5% full).[/quote]

    You know, I’ve noticed attendance way down in a lot of ballparks at the beginning of the season. Usually, it seems that even the crappy teams will draw a decent number of fans early in the season, but that doesn’t appear to be the case in 2010.

    I saw an A’s Mariners game the other night where it looked like there were less than 5K in the Coliseum. It even looked like the Trop was at half capacity on Saturday when they hosted the Yankees for Christ sakes.[/quote]

    i remember last year, maybe the year before, there was a braves game on a wednesday afternoon in florida, and our announcers went section by section and counted the fans, and, this was in the 4th inning, found a grand total of 5-600 fans. thats less than 1000 people at a major league game…

  • Chuck | April 14, 2010 at 11:26 pm |

    Coyotes home game white out, and they are wearing red. what am I missing here?

  • Doug in GA | April 14, 2010 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”385531″]Since when was pewter a UNC color?

    And the white helmet… Meh… Looks like crap, if you ask me.

    Should have just stuck with what they had before. Their colors are Carolina Blue and White. Not dark blue, not pewter, not black, just Carolina Blue and White. Why, then, do they need 4 different jersey colors and 3 helmet colors in 2 years? I don’t get it.[/quote]

    The pewter helmets are for the Nike Pro Combat unis UNC is supposedly getting.

  • Doug in GA | April 14, 2010 at 11:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”385512″]Wait, is that Ron Cherry in the Chiefs SL photo the same Ron Cherry that makes a fool of himself every Saturday in the fall officiating ACC games?[/quote]

    I think that is Deron Cherry. Part of his name is covered.

  • JTH | April 14, 2010 at 11:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”385665″]Congratulations, Phoenix Glendale, AZ. You’ve taken the Winnipeg tradition, and now your fans look like they’re with the Red Wings.
    /Back to white at home, please, NHL.[/quote]
    Did Pittsburgh do the white out tonight, too?

    Sure looked like it to me.

  • Ben Fortney | April 14, 2010 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”385653″]The story about the LA logo was interesting, but they Yankees logo isn’t black and white, their colors are Navy blue and white. It surprises me how many people think their colors are black and white.[/quote]

    That was actually the 2nd time I read that error today. What was even worse was that the first one was in Newsday, a New York paper!

    Then again I shouldn’t be surprised, it’s owned by the Dolans, so why would a sports section be any different than the sports teams they’ve ruined.

  • Mario Fontana | April 15, 2010 at 12:49 am |

    [quote comment=”385615″]Excellent writeup on the Starting Lineup figures Mario. Still don’t understand why they never did a Steve Largent figure?

    Love how they all look like R.Crumb designed them.[/quote]

    Hi, Thanks everybody for reading the story and giving all the positive feedback. I truly loved writing the story and sharing it with all of you.

    The short answer on Steve Largent is, no, they’ve never made one. The long answer is, They wanted him to be the fifth Seahawks figure in 1988 and went so far as to make a prototype of him. Largent, however, asked that they cease production because his religion (I believe he’s a Mormon) states that any statue made of a person is like a false idol, and he was uncomfortable with any sort of Largent action figure.

    You can see a picture of the Largent prototype here:

    http://www.collector...

  • Teebz | April 15, 2010 at 1:08 am |

    [quote comment=”385667″]Hey Teebz, don’t know if I got in the pool or not but it looks like it doesn’t matter. Already oh fer tew. I think I did it wrong anyway. Probably disqualified.[/quote]

    You’re in!

    I was doing a bunch of paperwork tabulating results, but anyone who got in before the close of Wednesday Central Time (8 minutes ago) was eligible.

  • Mike | April 15, 2010 at 1:57 am |

    Matt Cain’s jersey also had the Burns memorial patch on it for the Giants home opener last Friday.

  • The Hemogoblin | April 15, 2010 at 2:04 am |

    [quote comment=”385625″][quote comment=”385623″][quote comment=”385594″]Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko….you missed a guy right under your nose, Justin Morneau sports the Reeboks.[/quote]

    Said I’d seen some Reeboks. Just not many.
    But adidas seem to be really scarce this season.

    Vlad Guerrero still wearing them?
    He and Santana were two of those most aligned with the brand as I recall (off the top of my head, anyway).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Chad Gaudin. His were easy to see when they were black on white.

  • KevinW | April 15, 2010 at 2:19 am |

    [quote comment=”385678″][quote comment=”385625″][quote comment=”385623″][quote comment=”385594″]Typical geek-out UW question…

    Was watching Indiana (in their white adidas) playing baseball against TOSU on the Big Ten Network and it struck me: Is ANYONE in MLB wearing adidas cleats these days?

    Santana always used to, but think he’s gone to something else. Under Armor, maybe?

    Not seeing many Reebok, either, come to think of it.

    Did MLB go to exclusive deals with a couple companies, a la the NFL and I missed it?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko….you missed a guy right under your nose, Justin Morneau sports the Reeboks.[/quote]

    Said I’d seen some Reeboks. Just not many.
    But adidas seem to be really scarce this season.

    Vlad Guerrero still wearing them?
    He and Santana were two of those most aligned with the brand as I recall (off the top of my head, anyway).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Chad Gaudin. His were easy to see when they were black on white.[/quote]

    Recent Braves starters seem to be wearing Reebok, Tommy Hanson tonight and for sure Derek Lowe during his last start, but point taken. Nike is definitely increasing their presence in baseball.

  • SeaTown | April 15, 2010 at 3:14 am |

    Assuming the Georgia Brand coffee is a reference to the Republic of Georgia, from the font used and the color’s similarities to the Cross of St. George.

  • scott | April 15, 2010 at 6:53 am |

    [quote comment=”385668″]i remember last year, maybe the year before, there was a braves game on a wednesday afternoon in florida, and our announcers went section by section and counted the fans, and, this was in the 4th inning, found a grand total of 5-600 fans. thats less than 1000 people at a major league game…[/quote]

    It always amuses me that baseball is the only sport where people obsess over attendance numbers. You’d think it was a dying sport the way people write about attendance numbers, rather than MLB being the sport pulling down revenues as big as the NFL.

  • chance michaels | April 15, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”385681″][quote comment=”385668″]i remember last year, maybe the year before, there was a braves game on a wednesday afternoon in florida, and our announcers went section by section and counted the fans, and, this was in the 4th inning, found a grand total of 5-600 fans. thats less than 1000 people at a major league game…[/quote]

    It always amuses me that baseball is the only sport where people obsess over attendance numbers. You’d think it was a dying sport the way people write about attendance numbers, rather than MLB being the sport pulling down revenues as big as the NFL.[/quote]
    I’m not sure that it’s only MLB obsessing over attendance numbers, given all the talk about blacking out NFL games.

  • Bob Loblaw | April 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”385606″][quote comment=”385604″]I was a Raider fan back then; Marc Wilson was the biggest loser ever to play QB in the NFL. Well, for the Raiders anyway. Up until then.[/quote]

    Obviously you’re burying memories of Todd Marinovich.

    Totally understandable.[/quote]
    David Humm???