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Letter Imperfect

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Three games into the baseball season and we already have our first jersey typo. It happened yesterday afternoon in Houston, where Giants reserve outfielder Eugenio Velez had his city name misspelled. This was his first appearance of the season, so it’s not clear if he’d also been wearing the typo on Monday and Tuesday, but it seems likely. After all, it’s not like he needed to switch to a new jersey after sitting on the bench for two days. (Special shout-out to all you people at Majestic who I know are reading this: Congrats on setting what must be the record for the earliest typo in a season. Well done!)

The Giants’ announcers didn’t notice the glitch — not when Velez entered the game as part of a double-switch in the 7th inning, and not during either of his plate appearances. The Houston broadcast team didn’t notice it either. But the Associated Press did, as you can see in this photo caption. Later on, the AP’s Giants beat reporter even went the extra mile by calling Velez (who by that time was headed to the airport on the Giants’ team bus) to ask him about the typo. I’m gonna have to find out who that reporter was — very nice work.

Other notes from around the diamond:

• Speaking of the Giants, yesterday I reported that they’d switched from nameplates to direct-sewn NOBs. Must be a Bay Area thing, because the A’s have done it too. Wish other teams would make this same move — looks so much better.

• For over two decades now, several teams have based their batboys’ uni numbers on the calendar year: 86 in 1986, 05 in 2005, 06 in 2006, and so on. For the past few years I’ve been wondering what these teams would do in 2010, because you can’t have a batboy wearing No. 10. I figured these teams would have the batboys wear BB (which several teams have been doing all along), or else just have them go numberless (ditto). In the Mets’ case, it turns out they have the batboys wearing double-zero, which makes no sense at all — especially since that’s already been Mr. Met’s number for years now. I’m very curious about the batboys for other teams who’d been using calendar-based uni numbers, so please keep me posted regarding any observations you make on this topic.

• The Pirates wore their alternate jerseys and caps yesterday — except for bench coach Gary Varsho, who wore the primary cap (screen shot courtesy of Doug Keklak). Of course, the two cap designs are so ridiculously similar that we can cut Varsho some slack on this one.

• Mike Galloway reports that Royals first baseman Billy Butler was wearing a Fudd cap last night. The box score says the game conditions were 45 degs. and rainy, so I guess he’s entitled.

• It’s tough to see, but I’m told that the smudge to the right of the MLB logo on the back of Andy Pettitte’s cap last night was a handwritten “Geno” inscription — a shout-out to ailing Yanks trainer Gene Monahan.

ESPN Reminder: In case you missed it yesterday, my curling story is up. Enjoy.

NCAA Contest Reminder: I still haven’t heard from a few of you contest winners. For details, look here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s a nice photo of Terence Kearns, me, and Ed Westfield Jr., taken at my Brooklyn Beefsteak birthday bash last month. … The Yomiuri Giants wore small black sleeve ribbons yesterday in memory of coach Takuya Kimura, who died of a brain hemorrhage. Ditto for their minor league team. Interesting to see an actual strip of ribbon, instead of a patch depicting a ribbon — simple, subtle, effective (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … What’s that running along the length of the Fenway Park foul pole? Apparently it’s neon lighting! Never heard of anything like this. New for this season, I assume? (Great spot by Jeff Spry.) … You may have known that there are two giant caps outside the Angels’ stadium. But did you know they include the MLB logo on the back and New Era tagging (size 649-1/2) inside? (Pics courtesy of Kyle Cattermole.) … Dan Cichalski put together a collage of this week’s Opening Day logos. Answer key here. “Curiously, the White Sox did not have one on the field,” says Dan. … Paul Wiederecht found some interesting Giants shots from 1958 — the year they moved to San Francisco. First, check out the welcome wagon the city laid out for them. Next, dig these great usherette uniforms with awesome sleeve patches. … Kenn Tomasch was in Boulder last weekend and took pics of some interesting U. of Colorado memorabilia, including a 1938 Cotton Bowl jacket, an amazing old football uni of uncertain vintage (love the silver helmet at the traction panels on the jersey), and — wait for it — a sensational boxing robe! … Disturbing news from Maria Skolnick, who reports that MLB 2K8 showed Juan Pierre wearing his stirrups backwards. … Yesterday’s mention of this supermarket hockey coupon/card prompted Bill Schaefer to send a mother lode from his collection. “A number of them were harmed in the great bizzard of 1974-75, when they blew all over a snow-filled driveway and some were never retrieved,” he says. “That’s the only reason this isn’t a complete set.” … Katie Moorhead noted that all the recent curling coverage here on the site has failed to include any mention of curling pins, which typically get handed out at bonspiels. “I’m at least a fourth-generation curler and have a pretty extensive collection of pins from my great-grandmother, grandmother, and mom,” she writes. “Unfortunately I am at college five hours away from home, so I can’t send any pictures of them. But I found this link that shows lots of different pins.” Man, you could spend a whole day clicking around from that page — tons of good stuff. Naturally, I’m partial to this one. … John Goodrich was poking around in the Indiana Historical Society archives and came up with sheet music for some old-time baseball songs, including “My Old Man Is Baseball Mad” and “The Baseball Glide.” Someone who can read music should play these and make audio files to share with the rest of us, yes? Yes. … Paul Wiederecht managed to talk to some of the San Jose Giants equipment staffers and learned that the striped socks being worn throughout the Giants organization do not come from Twin City Knitting, as I had assumed, but rather from a local operation called Valley Images. Paul also noted that the team has some bats with some wild paint and tape designs. … Also from Paul: this page of old Giants farm team photos. Among the highlights: Salty Parker, who managed the Mets for 11 games in 1967, as a Dallas Eagle (love that sleeve patch) and Chris Brown posing for one of history’s more unfortunate publicity shots.

 

200 comments to Letter Imperfect

  • Erik | April 8, 2010 at 7:34 am |

    First post about typos with a typo…. “college of Opening Day logos”

  • Rob K | April 8, 2010 at 7:49 am |

    Looks like the second song, “The Baseball Glide” isn’t available. Perhaps something wrong with the link? The first song is awesome, though I have to say that it feels like the cover art is staring into my soul… O_O

  • Stuby | April 8, 2010 at 7:59 am |

    I guess with all the good uniform developments for the Giants of late, I can overlook a minor snafu.

    I’m hoping “Bowtie” Bill Neukom figures out a way to incorporate Under Armour’s faux flannel fabric into future road uniform designs.

  • DJ | April 8, 2010 at 8:03 am |

    It appears that the White Sox have gone to “BB” for their batboys.

  • DJ | April 8, 2010 at 8:09 am |

    What’s that running along the length of the Fenway Park foul pole? Apparently it’s neon lighting! Never heard of anything like this. New for this season, I assume?

    It’s been there for a while. I can’t say how long, exactly. And it’s not unique — I recall a Sports Illustrated story about Cuban baseball that reported that one of the parks down there had neon foul poles. I tried doing a search of SI.com, but had no luck finding the article.

  • Sam D. | April 8, 2010 at 8:13 am |

    This isn’t the first time the Mets have given 00 to their batboys. In 1999, Turk Wendell was on the team, so the batboys wore 00 for two straight years!

  • Sam D. | April 8, 2010 at 8:20 am |

    I wonder if this means that batboys won’t wear year numbers for at least another 50 years?

  • Andy | April 8, 2010 at 8:24 am |

    The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.’

  • dudebrotherman | April 8, 2010 at 8:27 am |

    Dude, when I read Kimura Takuya died, I about lost it. Kimura Takuya, not the Giants’ Coach, is also the name of the most famous man in Japan. It would be like combining John Wayne, Justin Timberlake, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Kanye West, Puff Daddy, and the New Kids on the Block. All combined to make one person, you would have the equivalent ‘famousness’ of Kimura Takuya aka Kimu Taku.

    Lucky for google. My sympathies go out to the Kimura family and the Giants. But that was almost earth shattering news.

  • Jeremy Brahm | April 8, 2010 at 8:32 am |

    Cuba Neon Foul Pole

    http://www.pology.co...

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 8:32 am |

    So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?

    Any reason for it?

    I mean if numbers like 09 and 99 are OK, why not 10?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And I did notice that the Sox don’t have an opening day/week/series logo at the Cell. And I could be wrong about this, but I don’t remember seeing any bunting. Maybe I just didn’t notice it.

  • Paul Lukas | April 8, 2010 at 8:36 am |

    [quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 8:40 am |

    [quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback

  • TommyD | April 8, 2010 at 8:51 am |

    Does that large cap at the Angels stadium also have the shoplifter-friendly label left on the brim of the hat?

    http://www.flipflopf...

  • fiesta | April 8, 2010 at 8:58 am |

    NPR called out the San Francisco typo on one of their bumpers during Morning Edition today, then mentioned the Natinals escapade last year. Renee Montagne ended the bit by saying “This is Morning Editno.”

  • Jason S. | April 8, 2010 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”384652″]What’s that running along the length of the Fenway Park foul pole? Apparently it’s neon lighting! Never heard of anything like this. New for this season, I assume?

    It’s been there for a while. I can’t say how long, exactly. And it’s not unique — I recall a Sports Illustrated story about Cuban baseball that reported that one of the parks down there had neon foul poles. I tried doing a search of SI.com, but had no luck finding the article.[/quote]

    It’s been there since I went to Fenway for the first time as a little kid in the late-80’s. In fact, I just googled it, and apparently W.P. Kinsella mentioned it in Shoeless Joe (the book on which Field of Dreams is based).

    http://books.google....

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    Question:
    When a uniform is redesigned, as in the case or the Buff’s throwbacks, is Nike the “General Contractor: so to say?

    Because in that pic, the ballcarrier is wearing a Riddell helmet. Did Riddell have any say when it came to the uni design?

  • JamesP. | April 8, 2010 at 9:20 am |

    Paul – Forgot to point out that the “Geno” shout-out was actually highlighted by on the YES broadcast last night, including a close-up of Pettit’s cap.

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”384661″]Does that large cap at the Angels stadium also have the shoplifter-friendly label left on the brim of the hat?

    http://www.flipflopf...

    “shoplifter-friendly” Wow, that had never occurred to me before!

  • Jason S. | April 8, 2010 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”384663″][quote comment=”384652″]What’s that running along the length of the Fenway Park foul pole? Apparently it’s neon lighting! Never heard of anything like this. New for this season, I assume?

    It’s been there for a while. I can’t say how long, exactly. And it’s not unique — I recall a Sports Illustrated story about Cuban baseball that reported that one of the parks down there had neon foul poles. I tried doing a search of SI.com, but had no luck finding the article.[/quote]

    It’s been there since I went to Fenway for the first time as a little kid in the late-80’s. In fact, I just googled it, and apparently W.P. Kinsella mentioned it in Shoeless Joe (the book on which Field of Dreams is based).

    http://books.google....

    …and Shoeless Joe was published in 1982.

  • Squiddie | April 8, 2010 at 9:31 am |

    Woke up this morning to NPR reporting the San Fancicso mix up.

    Equipment managers must now live in fear that this will happen to their team.

  • Geenf | April 8, 2010 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”384668″]Woke up this morning to NPR reporting the San Fancicso mix up.

    Equipment managers must now live in fear that this will happen to their team.[/quote]

    Eff the equipment managers. Majestic needs to be more on the ball.

    I once saw a road Nationals jersey that said “WASNINGTON” on the front being sold at a Finish Line store. I should have snapped that sucker up.

  • Bernard | April 8, 2010 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    The Buffs are missing an incredible opportunity by not going with that helmet design full-time. Change the helmet to gold if you’d like, or whatever, but those horns are BOSS.

  • interlockingtc | April 8, 2010 at 9:53 am |

    Yup, that’s just awesome.

    http://farm3.static....

  • nateisfunny | April 8, 2010 at 9:58 am |

    I can’t stand Majestic- they slap their logo everywhere if you buy a t-shirt and haven’t proposed something interesting/non-ugly since they’ve taken on MLB jerseys.

    When is the contract up so Under Armour can swoop in and replace bored, tired jerseys with, says, some of those grays we saw the other day (on Missouri?)

  • Josh | April 8, 2010 at 9:58 am |

    Tim Lincecum states that he’s worn the same hat in all of his starts (91 of ’em). I guess that will change if he pitches on an “alternative-jersey” day — unless the Giants mix and match (like the Mets) their hat and jersey combos, or just don’t wear the alternatives with him on the mound.

    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • Broadway Connie | April 8, 2010 at 9:59 am |

    “…Chris Brown posing for one of history’s more unfortunate publicity shots…”

    It’s on the wall already.

  • The Big Ego | April 8, 2010 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”384673″]Tim Lincecum states that he’s worn the same hat in all of his starts (91 of ’em). I guess that will change if he pitches on an “alternative-jersey” day — unless the Giants mix and match (like the Mets) their hat and jersey combos, or just don’t wear the alternatives with him on the mound.

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    Reminds me of the John Wettland ideology from the 1996 World Series, “You get one hat in spring training…” You know WAY before there was a hat for batting practice, one for the game, another for the road, another for the press conf, another to take a dump in, ie a Red Sox Cap

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]
    …or have retired the number.

    Gotcha. I think the practice of issuing “years” as the batboys’ numbers was lame anyway.

  • Beardface | April 8, 2010 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]
    Why not? I mean, if you look at the picture you posted of the Mets in 86, you can see 2 bat boys in there with the number 86. Why not just have the name ‘Bat Boy’ with the year as the number. Its not like anyone is going to confuse that person with the actual player…

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]
    Assuming anyone would actually notice.

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 10:18 am |

    by the way james to answer what you are thinking…
    because i took the plastic off the windows a couple weeks ago and bitter winds woke me up at 7am. what is up with this 30 degree wind? this day is not off to a right proper start, grumble coffee grumble.

  • Schmeltzer | April 8, 2010 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”384670″][quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    The Buffs are missing an incredible opportunity by not going with that helmet design full-time. Change the helmet to gold if you’d like, or whatever, but those horns are BOSS.[/quote]
    I was going to say the exact same thing. I must have been sick that day in uni-watch class, so I’d never seen that pic before, but that is a sweet helmet. I am partial to helmets that depict something instead of just a logo like the vikings, eagles, old redskins, that high school that had the devil horns, etc.

  • Shaggy | April 8, 2010 at 10:20 am |

    Those Colorado pics are from Old Main on campus. A real hidden gem full of historical pieces and a replica locker room with various athletic representations through the past 100 years plus.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”384670″][quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    The Buffs are missing an incredible opportunity by not going with that helmet design full-time. Change the helmet to gold if you’d like, or whatever, but those horns are BOSS.[/quote]

    They wore that helmet in a bowl game in ’56 or so, when they ran single wing with, I think, Boyd Dowler as the tailback. Or he was in the backfield, anyway, cuz was wearing #44. Have a number of photos in an Associated Press Annual coffee table book at home. Hopefully, I’ll scan and post later today.

    If anyone want to search for images in the meantime, was probably the Orange Bowl.

    —Ricko

  • Matthew Robins | April 8, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    Those Colorado pics are from Old Main on the Boulder campus. A real hidden gem full of historical pieces and a replica locker room with various athletic representations through the past 100 years plus.

  • Schmeltzer | April 8, 2010 at 10:23 am |

    [quote]ESPN Reminder: In case you missed it yesterday, my curling story is up. Enjoy.[/quote]
    All this curling talk hasn’t come a minute too soon. I was going to look into curling next winter, but while discussing Paul’s article, someone alerted me to the fact that the St. Paul Curling Club has a spring season directed at newcomers. They even have a training session before the season starts. Signed up! If any other uni-watchers are in that league, we should form a team and get really great sweaters!

  • Schmeltzer | April 8, 2010 at 10:24 am |

    ugh. I’m terrible at those quotes. How do I quote Paul’s article without it saying that I said it?

  • Daniel | April 8, 2010 at 10:24 am |

    The shot of Chris Brown — didn’t he once beg out of the lineup after claiming to sleep on his eye wrong? — is unbelievable. Given the sad arc of his career, and life, that’s like seeing an elementary school portrait of Oedipus with an eye-patch.

    Daniel

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 10:36 am |

    Matthew Cerrone of MetsBlog twittered the folks at the MetsPolice of upcoming Mets Uni news later today
    ” Hey, @metspolice, I will have some buzz on the direction of the team’s uniforms later today on MetsBlog. Stay tuned.”
    http://twitter.com/m...

  • Beardface | April 8, 2010 at 10:38 am |

    Looks like the NHL is set to announce that the Carolina Hurricanes are hosting the 2011 All Star Game in a couple hours. Very good chance we’ll have a new logo for everyone at about 1 this afternoon. You can watch the presser at 12:30 at http://www.hurricane... if you want.

  • LarryB | April 8, 2010 at 10:44 am |

    Thanks to Kenn for the Colorado pictures.

    Here is a figure of that era’s uniforms

    http://img.photobuck...

  • The Ol Goaler | April 8, 2010 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”384672″]I can’t stand Majestic- they slap their logo everywhere if you buy a t-shirt and haven’t proposed something interesting/non-ugly since they’ve taken on MLB jerseys.

    When is the contract up so Under Armour can swoop in and replace bored, tired jerseys with, says, some of those grays we saw the other day (on Missouri?)[/quote]
    Mizzou played Illinois at Busch Stadium yesterday, and while the home whites also feature the old-school look, sadly, the home socks are solid black… not nearly as awesome as the striped “road” socks.

    Those hockey cards featured a young John Davidson; “JD” looks a little different these days, doesn’t he?

    Since “my” Cardinals don’t open at home until next week, it’ll be interesting to see if they do the “Opening Day/Series” bit at Busch III…

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]

    And bat boys even need a number because…?

    Isn’t “BB” more appropriate, not to mention more efficient?
    I mean, bat boys and ball boys AREN’T players.

    —Ricko

  • Jerry | April 8, 2010 at 10:46 am |

    I was looking forward to the Frozen Four uniform preview. It gets underway today in Detroit.

    Wisconsin vs. Rochester Institute of Technology

    Miami (OH) vs. Boston College

  • LarryB | April 8, 2010 at 10:47 am |

    http://blog.dispatch...

    Scarlet, gray and pink

    The OSU coaches will be wearing pink caps and the players sporting pink-accented jerseys during the annual spring game April 24.

    No, it’s not another Nike-prompted “alternate uniform.”

    The hats and jerseys will later be auctioned off to benefit the Stefanie Spielman Fund for breast cancer research. Spielman passed away last November.

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”384692″][quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]

    And bat boys even need a number because…?

    Isn’t “BB” more appropriate, not to mention more efficient?
    I mean, bat boys and ball boys AREN’T players.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Using that reasoning, I guess coaches and managers shouldn’t have numbers, since they AREN’T players either

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”384683″][quote comment=”384670″][quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    The Buffs are missing an incredible opportunity by not going with that helmet design full-time. Change the helmet to gold if you’d like, or whatever, but those horns are BOSS.[/quote]

    They wore that helmet in a bowl game in ’56 or so, when they ran single wing with, I think, Boyd Dowler as the tailback. Or he was in the backfield, anyway, cuz was wearing #44. Have a number of photos in an Associated Press Annual coffee table book at home. Hopefully, I’ll scan and post later today.

    If anyone want to search for images in the meantime, was probably the Orange Bowl.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    My bad. Guess they ran the T, at least once in a while.
    Scroll down a ways to PR shot of offense with Dowler under center.
    http://www.cubuffs.c...

    —Ricko

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”384680″]by the way james to answer what you are thinking…
    because i took the plastic off the windows a couple weeks ago and bitter winds woke me up at 7am. what is up with this 30 degree wind? this day is not off to a right proper start, grumble coffee grumble.[/quote]
    Ha! I was wondering. I thought maybe the latest shipment from TCK had arrived early this morning or something.

    The really sad thing is that you probably got a better night’s sleep than I did last night.

  • Bernard | April 8, 2010 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”384683″][quote comment=”384670″][quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    The Buffs are missing an incredible opportunity by not going with that helmet design full-time. Change the helmet to gold if you’d like, or whatever, but those horns are BOSS.[/quote]

    They wore that helmet in a bowl game in ’56 or so, when they ran single wing with, I think, Boyd Dowler as the tailback. Or he was in the backfield, anyway, cuz was wearing #44. Have a number of photos in an Associated Press Annual coffee table book at home. Hopefully, I’ll scan and post later today.

    If anyone want to search for images in the meantime, was probably the Orange Bowl.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well lo and behold, this was pretty much covered on 11/29/07:

    http://www.uniwatchb...

    That entry includes this photo from, you guessed it, the ’56 Orange Bowl:
    http://farm3.static....

    It also has the shots of the Red Devils helmets I think you were talking about, Schmeltzer. And in the comments, someone posted about Leroy Pine River HS (Mich), which employs this out-friggin-standing design:

    http://www.michiganh...

    Also of interest from that day’s entry: RyCo40 going by Ryan C #40!

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 10:54 am |

    The ’56 Orange Bowl helmet.
    http://3.bp.blogspot...

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 10:55 am |

    Satchel Paige as a Miami Marlin…
    http://1.bp.blogspot...

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 11:00 am |

    Check out the belts that match the striping pattern…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • David Gratt | April 8, 2010 at 11:00 am |

    Re: BB Numbers – I was pretty sure that the bat boys traded Mr. Met a year’s supply of steaks and bought him a new hi-fi for his number.

    Re: Neon Foul Poles – The El Paso Diablos featured neon accented foul poles in the old Dudley Dome. Saw them there in 1990.

  • chance michaels | April 8, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”384700″]Satchel Paige as a Miami Marlin…
    http://1.bp.blogspot...
    That’s very cool.

    Somewhere I have a picture of him in his Marlins uniform which shows off their incredibly cool sleeve patch.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”384672″]

    When is the contract up so Under Armour can swoop in and replace bored, tired jerseys with, says, some of those grays we saw the other day (on Missouri?)[/quote]

    UA doing MLB?

    why do i have a feeling that could end very badly?

  • chance michaels | April 8, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”384703″][quote comment=”384700″]Satchel Paige as a Miami Marlin…
    http://1.bp.blogspot...
    That’s very cool.

    Somewhere I have a picture of him in his Marlins uniform which shows off their incredibly cool sleeve patch.[/quote]

    This isn’t the one of which I was thinking, but it’s still awfully nice.

  • Aaron | April 8, 2010 at 11:04 am |

    Couldn’t find pictures (although I found plenty of them for the tabloids Bat Boy), but the bat boys for the Twins and Angels are wearing BB this season. Not sure if that is new, but I don’t recall the Angels having BB before this season.

  • Chuck | April 8, 2010 at 11:05 am |

    Hey Paul, what is that “Meats” shirt you’re wearing in that picture all about?

  • Bill | April 8, 2010 at 11:09 am |

    Paul, I can’t remember if it was mentioned in the Uni Blog article, but it’s not in the ESPN article: You mentioned a stop at Anchor Bar in Souptown but don’t give the names of the places you ate & drank in Duluth. Where’d you end up? Sir Ben’s? Pickwick’s? Somewhere down on the Canal? UMD grad here, I always love hearing Duluth get more talk (and Superior get less).

  • Andy | April 8, 2010 at 11:09 am |

    I think that whole uniform that Colorado wore last year is boss. I love the helmet. I love the pale gold. I love the thin numerals. I would make the stripe on the pant solid black like the horn on the helmet and I would put them in either black socks (Nike’s preference) or (my preference) gold socks with a few black stripes. If there’s no t.v. numbers, maybe a matching set of stripes on the sleeves could spice it up, or a thin wedge on the shoulder like the Texans might fit in well with the wedge-shaped horn.

    Might be awesome to do the silver helmet and pants at home, with the gold jersey, then a gold helmet and pants on the road, with a white jersey.

    That helmet would look killer in gold, too, paired with those nice uniforms they wore a few years ago.

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”384695″][quote comment=”384692″][quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]

    And bat boys even need a number because…?

    Isn’t “BB” more appropriate, not to mention more efficient?
    I mean, bat boys and ball boys AREN’T players.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Using that reasoning, I guess coaches and managers shouldn’t have numbers, since they AREN’T players either[/quote]

    yes a coach is only as important as a bat boy, and a coach never played major league ball, he shouldn’t get a number. c’mon FuDD, yer better then just being contrary right? that being said, i hate the blank BuB jersey, and BB never looked right to me either, but i guess that would be the look.

    what’s the meats?!!!

  • pru | April 8, 2010 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”384704″][quote comment=”384672″]

    When is the contract up so Under Armour can swoop in and replace bored, tired jerseys with, says, some of those grays we saw the other day (on Missouri?)[/quote]

    UA doing MLB?

    why do i have a feeling that could end very badly?[/quote]

    Given the “traditional” uniform companies making ridiculous BP unis(not to mention things like turn ahead the clock) and UA’s ability to make unis like Mizzou’s and Texas Tech’s throwback, I’d welcome UA’s approach.

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 11:13 am |

    i’ll try again…
    meats

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”384695″][quote comment=”384692″][quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]

    And bat boys even need a number because…?

    Isn’t “BB” more appropriate, not to mention more efficient?
    I mean, bat boys and ball boys AREN’T players.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Using that reasoning, I guess coaches and managers shouldn’t have numbers, since they AREN’T players either[/quote]

    Jesus. Excuse me for not being anal about it.
    Let me rephrase it.

    “They’re just kids with part-time full-time jobs who virtually never travel with the team, and almost no spectators go to their programs to get their names, anyway. They are supposed to be, practically by definition, relatively invisible most of the time when doing their jobs.

    “They are not there to participate in, nor influence the outcome of, the game or the players in it, but only to provide a service.”

    That specific enough?

    Gotta frickin’ do everything the hard way around here, I guess, because people would rather enjoy the self-gratification of nitpicking than think, “Ya, I understand what he’s getting at.”

    Damn, it’s like dealing with lawyers editing advertising copy.

    —Ricko

  • Ry Co 40 | April 8, 2010 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”384689″]Looks like the NHL is set to announce that the Carolina Hurricanes are hosting the 2011 All Star Game in a couple hours. Very good chance we’ll have a new logo for everyone at about 1 this afternoon. You can watch the presser at 12:30 at http://www.hurricane... if you want.[/quote]

    i guess the pens can’t have the all star game, and the winter classic (and stanley cup finals-long distance wishfull thinking) in the same year…

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 11:18 am |

    Cornelius McGillicuddy sure didn’t need no stinkin’ uni number.

    I was going to go into a lengthy explanation of what batboys “should” have on the backs of their jerseys, but I decided not to.

    To cut to the chase, I prefer the blank jersey back.

    A Weekly World News logo would also be acceptable.

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”384710″][quote comment=”384695″][quote comment=”384692″][quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]

    And bat boys even need a number because…?

    Isn’t “BB” more appropriate, not to mention more efficient?
    I mean, bat boys and ball boys AREN’T players.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Using that reasoning, I guess coaches and managers shouldn’t have numbers, since they AREN’T players either[/quote]

    yes a coach is only as important as a bat boy, and a coach never played major league ball, he shouldn’t get a number. c’mon FuDD, yer better then just being contrary right? that being said, i hate the blank BuB jersey, and BB never looked right to me either, but i guess that would be the look.

    what’s the meats?!!![/quote]
    Hey, I found Razor Shines of less importance than the bat & ball boys last year.

    I will offer that teams may have moved away form using BB because they aren’t always “boys” these days

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”384715″]Cornelius McGillicuddy sure didn’t need no stinkin’ uni number.

    I was going to go into a lengthy explanation of what batboys “should” have on the backs of their jerseys, but I decided not to.

    To cut to the chase, I prefer the blank jersey back.

    A Weekly World News logo would also be acceptable.[/quote]

    i kind’a like “mascot” like in those old cubbie photos at father tyme on belmont. that chubby lil kid rocked!

  • Broadway Connie | April 8, 2010 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”384681″][quote comment=”384670″][quote comment=”384660″][quote comment=”384655″]The Colorado football uniform looks like it might be from the Byron White era. Looks like it could have been inspiration for the throwback they wore last year, which was in honor of ‘the Whizzer.'[/quote]

    good call andy…was thinking the same thing

    this begat this

    now…if you look closely at the original helmet, it appears as though it may have had horns painted on it…just like nike’s throwback[/quote]

    The Buffs are missing an incredible opportunity by not going with that helmet design full-time. Change the helmet to gold if you’d like, or whatever, but those horns are BOSS.[/quote]
    I was going to say the exact same thing. I must have been sick that day in uni-watch class, so I’d never seen that pic before, but that is a sweet helmet. I am partial to helmets that depict something instead of just a logo like the vikings, eagles, old redskins, that high school that had the devil horns, etc.[/quote]

    Absolutely, Schmeltzer. Buff horns work for me, and Ricko sure found something great one in that stag-horn helmet from Leroy Pine HS.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”384716″][quote comment=”384710″][quote comment=”384695″][quote comment=”384692″][quote comment=”384678″][quote comment=”384659″][quote comment=”384658″]So batboys can’t wear #10? That’s an actual rule?[/quote]

    No, I just meant that you wouldn’t give such a primo number to a lowly batboy, esp. since most teams already have someone wearing No. 10 on the active roster.[/quote]

    can you imagine the outcry if james’ team gave to 10 to the BuB? dear corn, it would shake the foundations of “year one”.[/quote]

    And bat boys even need a number because…?

    Isn’t “BB” more appropriate, not to mention more efficient?
    I mean, bat boys and ball boys AREN’T players.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Using that reasoning, I guess coaches and managers shouldn’t have numbers, since they AREN’T players either[/quote]

    yes a coach is only as important as a bat boy, and a coach never played major league ball, he shouldn’t get a number. c’mon FuDD, yer better then just being contrary right? that being said, i hate the blank BuB jersey, and BB never looked right to me either, but i guess that would be the look.

    what’s the meats?!!![/quote]
    Hey, I found Razor Shines of less importance than the bat & ball boys last year.

    I will offer that teams may have moved away form using BB because they aren’t always “boys” these days[/quote]

    Indeed. And we all should be careful when we pass that open personhole that we don’t fall in, because the personhole cover has been removed.

    ;)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 11:26 am |

    “…and Ricko sure found something great one in that stag-horn helmet from Leroy Pine HS.”

    Wasn’t me.
    Don’t want credit where credit isn’t due.

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”384687″]The shot of Chris Brown — didn’t he once beg out of the lineup after claiming to sleep on his eye wrong? — is unbelievable. Given the sad arc of his career, and life, that’s like seeing an elementary school portrait of Oedipus with an eye-patch.

    Daniel[/quote]

    And then he had to go and beat up Rihann!

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”384721″][quote comment=”384687″]The shot of Chris Brown — didn’t he once beg out of the lineup after claiming to sleep on his eye wrong? — is unbelievable. Given the sad arc of his career, and life, that’s like seeing an elementary school portrait of Oedipus with an eye-patch.

    Daniel[/quote]

    And then he had to go and beat up Rihanna![/quote]

    BTW, that shot of Mizzou playing at Busch, is that Illinois? Cuz they are wearing black sleeved tees under their unis.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 11:32 am |

    did bobby savoy have a number?

  • Matt | April 8, 2010 at 11:38 am |

    I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong!

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”384723″]
    BTW, that shot of Mizzou playing at Busch, is that Illinois? Cuz they are wearing black sleeved tees under their unis.[/quote]

    yes, they were playing the illini

    not everyone wears their pants high…and when worn as pajamas, the look isn’t nearly as good

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]
    as opposed to universal numerals, which don’t exist. i was up at 7am, what do you want? i am done for the day.

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    I think a more important question – did Marla Collins wear a number?

    On a related note … how many times do you think Matt was mistaken for Mark, you know, since they wore the same name and number when he was batboy?

    http://www.fansedge....

  • Ryan | April 8, 2010 at 11:51 am |

    I don’t know how long the neon’s been on the foul poles–as long as I can remember. It is not, however, neon lighting. It’s simply a reflective strip of tape or something that picks up the lights or the sun.

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”384729″]I think a more important question – did Marla Collins wear a number?[/quote]
    She sure did. And she had a great pair as well.

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 12:20 pm |
  • chance michaels | April 8, 2010 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”384731″][quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...
    Goes back farther than that – they’ve had a black jersey and cap since 2000. The current version made its debut in 2008.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”384731″][quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...

    Yeah, there’s a prime example of BFBS.
    Think they may go back considerably farther than 2008.
    And, of course, Dressed/Nines doesn’t show alts (they sure do a fine job showing how badly Okkonen beat the snot out of them, don’t they).

    —Ricko

  • chance michaels | April 8, 2010 at 12:29 pm |

    Spam filter has apparently caught my comment, so I’ll rephrase without links – A’s have had a black jersey and cap since 2000. Used to be green letters, white outline on black (cap too), current white with green/gold double outline on black dates back to 2008.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”384735″][quote comment=”384731″][quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...

    Yeah, there’s a prime example of BFBS.
    Think they may go back considerably farther than 2008.
    And, of course, Dressed/Nines doesn’t show alts (they sure do a fine job showing how badly Okkonen beat the snot out of them, don’t they).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    They wore black in 2000 as well, but with green wordmarks & cap logos

  • Jules | April 8, 2010 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”384658″]
    And I did notice that the Sox don’t have an opening day/week/series logo at the Cell. And I could be wrong about this, but I don’t remember seeing any bunting. Maybe I just didn’t notice it.[/quote]

    There was bunting, along the sidelines of left and right field. I don’t remember anything behind home plate, but I was sitting in the bleachers so I could have missed it while concentrating on the game.

  • Elwood | April 8, 2010 at 12:40 pm |

    That 2000 Oakland black jersey was really short-lived, though.

    Also, the neon on the Pesky Pole is definitely not new, plenty of old pics that show the neon on Flickr.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 12:41 pm |

    Related to nothing, but fun to ponder.

    Brett Favre became a grandfather in the past couple days.
    Assuming he comes back, I wonder how many grandfathers have started a game at QB in the NFL.

    And who the last one was.

    Blanda, maybe?

    –Ricko

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.

    —Ricko

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”384738″][quote comment=”384735″][quote comment=”384731″][quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...

    Yeah, there’s a prime example of BFBS.
    Think they may go back considerably farther than 2008.
    And, of course, Dressed/Nines doesn’t show alts (they sure do a fine job showing how badly Okkonen beat the snot out of them, don’t they).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    They wore black in 2000 as well, but with green wordmarks & cap logos[/quote]

    I have the same problem with the A’s black jerseys as I do with the same from the Eagles. When I look at either in a photo, my eyes strain themselves trying to turn each into the dark green version of that jersey. It’s too similar to be worth making, IMO.

  • Squiddie | April 8, 2010 at 12:55 pm |

    Bobby Savoy didn’t have a number in the movie.

    Did Annie ever wear a jersey? She had a jacket, but I don’t recall her wearing a Bulls jersey.

    Roy is a 9 and Crash is an 8.

  • pk | April 8, 2010 at 12:57 pm |

    I’m surprised Paul (or anyone here, and if they did yesterday, I apologize) about how Tiger Woods is such a scum bag selling out his father’s voice…logo creep over a dead parent’s voice just for PR…sickening

  • Josh | April 8, 2010 at 12:58 pm |

    The Metsblog info wasn’t all that earth shattering —
    “I was able to confirm an e-mail I got an e-mail yesterday – I believe he also e-mailed Shannon at Mets Police – saying the Mets will be keeping the black uniforms next season, and might look to ditch the blue stripe running along the collar and down the center.

    So, I’m thinking something similar to what I put in this image – but not creame, not with Mr. Met on the arm, and with Mets across the chest, per usual.

    I hope this is the case. I think that’d be pretty cool, especially if they keep the stripe on the pants and use the blue hat.”

    http://www.metsblog....

  • Squiddie | April 8, 2010 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”384742″][quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.
    [/quote]

    Or Forrest and Leroy Raffel aka Raffel Brothers.

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”384747″][quote comment=”384742″][quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.
    [/quote]

    Or Forrest and Leroy Raffel aka Raffel Brothers.[/quote]

    You boys are creating an awful lot of brain thinkin’ this close to a Friday.

  • Anthony | April 8, 2010 at 1:03 pm |

    I sure hope the Giants have extra letters. Otherwise, there’s some poor “San Franisco” player running around out there…

  • mike 2 | April 8, 2010 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”384741″]Related to nothing, but fun to ponder.

    Brett Favre became a grandfather in the past couple days.
    Assuming he comes back, I wonder how many grandfathers have started a game at QB in the NFL.

    And who the last one was.

    Blanda, maybe?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    In the CFL, Damon Allen

    http://sportsillustr...

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”384746″]The Metsblog info wasn’t all that earth shattering —
    “I was able to confirm an e-mail I got an e-mail yesterday – I believe he also e-mailed Shannon at Mets Police – saying the Mets will be keeping the black uniforms next season, and might look to ditch the blue stripe running along the collar and down the center.

    So, I’m thinking something similar to what I put in this image – but not creame, not with Mr. Met on the arm, and with Mets across the chest, per usual.

    I hope this is the case. I think that’d be pretty cool, especially if they keep the stripe on the pants and use the blue hat.”

    http://www.metsblog....
    Definitely more confusing than earth shattering. While his text suggest the blacks will lose the blue collar & sleeve piping, his photos (and to an extent his text too) suggests the home whites will also. Thus making them very “Dodger” like

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm |

    damn, meant blue collar and placket piping

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 1:12 pm |

    hey paul…enjoy the game tonight

    just hope a) this doesn’t happen to niese again,

    b) they don’t dress in BFBS

    and

    c) you see this guy again

    /post pics if they’re not wearing black!

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”384753″]hey paul…enjoy the game tonight

    just hope a) this doesn’t happen to niese again,

    b) the don’t dress in BFBS

    and

    c) you see this guy again

    /post pics if they’re not wearing black![/quote]
    If I was Niese, I would tell Charlie Samuels there is no way in hell I’m wearing a black jersey ever again

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”384745″]I’m surprised Paul (or anyone here, and if they did yesterday, I apologize) about how Tiger Woods is such a scum bag selling out his father’s voice…logo creep over a dead parent’s voice just for PR…sickening[/quote]

    Just slightly paraphrasing the words of Norm Peterson…
    “I suggest you people have a couple of beers and lighten the hell up.”

    —Ricko

  • Matthew Robins | April 8, 2010 at 1:18 pm |

    Speaking of Colorado, any news on the stirrups, RPM? League play starts Wednesday at UIC, as if you didn’t know…

  • Jim | April 8, 2010 at 1:25 pm |

    Hey Guys, Anybody else heard of a commemorative axe?
    This one marks Team Canada’s gold-winning, overtime goal by Sidney Crosby. It is super cool
    http://www.bestmadec...

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”384757″]Hey Guys, Anybody else heard of a commemorative axe?
    This one marks Team Canada’s gold-winning, overtime goal by Sidney Crosby. It is super cool
    http://www.bestmadec...

    To get back at Canada, we should all buy one, then go to our back yards, and, you know – bury the hatchets.

    (sometimes it sounds so much better before I start typing)

  • pk | April 8, 2010 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”384755″][quote comment=”384745″]I’m surprised Paul (or anyone here, and if they did yesterday, I apologize) about how Tiger Woods is such a scum bag selling out his father’s voice…logo creep over a dead parent’s voice just for PR…sickening[/quote]

    Just slightly paraphrasing the words of Norm Peterson…
    “I suggest you people have a couple of beers and lighten the hell up.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    …In that case, Killians Red please…

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”384744″]Bobby Savoy didn’t have a number in the movie.

    Did Annie ever wear a jersey? She had a jacket, but I don’t recall her wearing a Bulls jersey.

    Roy is a 9 and Crash is an 8.[/quote]

    She’ll always be a 10 in my book.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”384745″]I’m surprised Paul (or anyone here, and if they did yesterday, I apologize) about how Tiger Woods is such a scum bag selling out his father’s voice…logo creep over a dead parent’s voice just for PR…sickening[/quote]

    For the ying and yang of it, let’s consider a viewpoint 180 degrees from that.

    What if Woods’ take on it is, “Fine with me. I have no problem letting people know that I realize my dad was a better man than I have been” ?

    That would make it a kind of tribute, huh.

    —Ricko

  • pk | April 8, 2010 at 1:40 pm |

    ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”384727″][quote comment=”384723″]
    BTW, that shot of Mizzou playing at Busch, is that Illinois? Cuz they are wearing black sleeved tees under their unis.[/quote]

    yes, they were playing the illini

    not everyone wears their pants high…and when worn as pajamas, the look isn’t nearly as good[/quote]

    Thanks, Phil. You are deinitely right about the PJ pants.

    Interesting, I guess UA doesn’t make caps yet, becuase Mizzou’s are made by TPX, which is part of Louisville Slugger.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”384760″][quote comment=”384744″]Bobby Savoy didn’t have a number in the movie.

    Did Annie ever wear a jersey? She had a jacket, but I don’t recall her wearing a Bulls jersey.

    Roy is a 9 and Crash is an 8.[/quote]

    She’ll always be a 10 in my book.[/quote]

    Didn’t Crash also wear, like, 14 or 16 in that last footage when he plays for Asheville (or whoever) and sets the minor league home run record?

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Totally OT but, is whiskey an acquired taste? At age 33, I still detest the taste of it.

  • One Who Generally Lurks | April 8, 2010 at 1:48 pm |

    Re: the Fudd cap on Billy Butler – watching the Royals game last night, the broadcasters said he’d gone for a haircut that day and ended up with a shaved head rather than a fade. Wonder if the unexpected draft led to the hat switch?

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”384765″]

    Totally OT but, is whiskey an acquired taste? At age 33, I still detest the taste of it.[/quote]

    unfortunately

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko

  • Andy | April 8, 2010 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”384747″][quote comment=”384742″][quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.
    [/quote]

    Or Forrest and Leroy Raffel aka Raffel Brothers.[/quote]

    “America’s Roast Beef, Yes Sir!”

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”384769″][quote comment=”384747″][quote comment=”384742″][quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.
    [/quote]

    Or Forrest and Leroy Raffel aka Raffel Brothers.[/quote]

    “America’s Roast Beef, Yes Sir!”[/quote]

    “All Day I Dream About Soccer”

    Oh, sorry, thought we were starting to list “Great Acronyms”. ;)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 2:00 pm |

    And, of course…

    Just End The Season!!!

  • joe | April 8, 2010 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”384768″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    its not an addiction, he wanted to get laid. That’s the point of life.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 2:02 pm |

    Make that “Reverse Acronyms.”

    Or something. LOL

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”384770″][quote comment=”384769″][quote comment=”384747″][quote comment=”384742″][quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.
    [/quote]

    Or Forrest and Leroy Raffel aka Raffel Brothers.[/quote]

    “America’s Roast Beef, Yes Sir!”[/quote]

    “All Day I Dream About Soccer”

    Oh, sorry, thought we were starting to list “Great Acronyms”. ;)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    ADI DASsler was the founder.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”384772″][quote comment=”384768″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    its not an addiction, he wanted to get laid.

    That’s the point of life.[/quote]

    And alcoholics are just looking for a little buzz.
    Y’know, relax a bit. Get mellow.
    Perfectly understandable and natural.

    But mostly, anybody else’s problem isn’t really a problem and they’re just exaggerating the snot out of it to cover their asses.

    Now, if we’re talking about MY problems, then they’re very real and very important.

    Right?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 2:13 pm |

    How ’bout this?

    We argue about whether pin stripes are appropriate on road unis in baseball.

    Just exactly who the hell are we to say excessive compulsive behavior doesn’t exist?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 2:17 pm |

    And I meant “excessive”.

    Kinda like a joke. ;)

  • joe | April 8, 2010 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”384775″][quote comment=”384772″][quote comment=”384768″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    its not an addiction, he wanted to get laid.

    That’s the point of life.[/quote]

    And alcoholics are just looking for a little buzz.
    Y’know, relax a bit. Get mellow.
    Perfectly understandable and natural.

    But mostly, anybody else’s problem isn’t really a problem and they’re just exaggerating the snot out of it to cover their asses.

    Now, if we’re talking about MY problems, then they’re very real and very important.

    Right?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    last I checked alcohol wasn’t exactly required for the species to continue.

  • Johnny O | April 8, 2010 at 2:20 pm |

    So I know Masters coverage hasn’t started yet (4pm ET on ESPN, 701-705 DirecTV Masters coverage)…but they have been popping in and out during SportsCenter and showing highlights. Steve Marino had a great hole out today (on #2 I believe) for eagle. Then, they showed his approach on a different hole, and I swear to God someone else in his group is playing a yellow ball. I am now talking “range ball yellow”, but I swear it was yellow. I would have taken a screen grab, but I am at work with no camera and no DVR.

    The others in his group are Tim Clark, and Tom Watson. I highly doubt Watson would be playing a yellow ball, so that leaves Clark. After a quick look on the interweb..sure enough.. Clark is playing a yellow ball at the Masters!!!

    http://www.thegolfch...

    Evidently, Clark has been using the yellow Srixon Z Star X TY ball (TY stands for Tour Yellow)

    http://www.golfmagic...

    How did I not notice this before? Was this ever mentioned on UW before? Sorry if I am late to the party.

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”384778″][quote comment=”384775″][quote comment=”384772″][quote comment=”384768″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    its not an addiction, he wanted to get laid.

    That’s the point of life.[/quote]

    And alcoholics are just looking for a little buzz.
    Y’know, relax a bit. Get mellow.
    Perfectly understandable and natural.

    But mostly, anybody else’s problem isn’t really a problem and they’re just exaggerating the snot out of it to cover their asses.

    Now, if we’re talking about MY problems, then they’re very real and very important.

    Right?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    last I checked alcohol wasn’t exactly required for the species to continue.[/quote]

    Ever seen the women shopping at Walmart?

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”384779″] Clark is playing a yellow ball at the Masters!!![/quote]

    sweet…especially since tiger is playing with blue balls now

  • bourbon soaked idiot | April 8, 2010 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”384765″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Totally OT but, is whiskey an acquired taste? At age 33, I still detest the taste of it.[/quote]

    Stop drinking crap like Jim Beam or Jack Daniels. Get some Bookers or Maker’s Mark.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”384778″][quote comment=”384775″][quote comment=”384772″][quote comment=”384768″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    its not an addiction, he wanted to get laid.

    That’s the point of life.[/quote]

    And alcoholics are just looking for a little buzz.
    Y’know, relax a bit. Get mellow.
    Perfectly understandable and natural.

    But mostly, anybody else’s problem isn’t really a problem and they’re just exaggerating the snot out of it to cover their asses.

    Now, if we’re talking about MY problems, then they’re very real and very important.

    Right?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    last I checked alcohol wasn’t exactly required for the species to continue.[/quote]

    You heard it here first.
    No such thing as sexual addiction.

    Joe says so.

    While you’re at it, could you clear up this “Global Warming” thing for everyone, too?

    —Ricko

  • KT | April 8, 2010 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”384682″]Those Colorado pics are from Old Main on campus. A real hidden gem full of historical pieces and a replica locker room with various athletic representations through the past 100 years plus.[/quote]

    Plus, Jack Swigert!

  • KT | April 8, 2010 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”384741″]Related to nothing, but fun to ponder.

    Brett Favre became a grandfather in the past couple days.
    Assuming he comes back, I wonder how many grandfathers have started a game at QB in the NFL.

    And who the last one was.

    Blanda, maybe?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    I tried to look up Blanda’s family tree, but couldn’t find if he was, indeed, a grandfather at the time of his last start (probably not…it was 11/10/68, when he was 41). He does have children, but I haven’t found a list of his grandchildren. He’s still alive, though, I guess someone will ask him eventually.

  • KT | April 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”384742″]
    That’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that “Arby’s” came from “R.B.”, as in “Roast Beef”.[/quote]

    [quote comment=\”384742\”]That\’s okay, Phil. It took me more than 30 years to realize that \”Arby\’s\” came from \”R.B.\”, as in \”Roast Beef\”.[/quote]

    And the Bee Gees?

    The Brothers Gibb.

    Did I just blow your mind?

  • Will | April 8, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
  • KT | April 8, 2010 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”384768″] Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. [/quote]

    Recovering from an actual addiction is.

  • Shaggy | April 8, 2010 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”384784″][quote comment=”384682″]Those Colorado pics are from Old Main on campus. A real hidden gem full of historical pieces and a replica locker room with various athletic representations through the past 100 years plus.[/quote]

    Plus, Jack Swigert![/quote]
    Oh yeah, a good amount of NASA stuff and even a framed photo of Chris Fowler!

  • KT | April 8, 2010 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”384783″]
    You heard it here first.
    No such thing as sexual addiction.
    [/quote]

    People much smarter than I say it exists. I respect that point of view.

    But almost 45 years of life on this planet, in this country, tells me that many people (especially in the last 15 years or so) have found addiction or other maladies to be convenient excuses for their behavior. They abdicate their personal responsibilities and blame it on the alcohol, or their upbringings, or their brain chemistry, or an addiction.

    I have no doubt some of those people actually have those maladies.

    I also have no doubt that many of those people do not. And you and I are both allowed to draw our own conclusions, unless one of us has acquired an MD title or a psychology PhD.

  • mmwatkin | April 8, 2010 at 2:57 pm |

    If I drank as much as I wanted to screw, I would be in a gutter with an empty listerine bottle

  • KT | April 8, 2010 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”384789″]Oh yeah, a good amount of NASA stuff and even a framed photo of Chris Fowler![/quote]

    Yeah, I didn’t know Fowler went there. All that and Jennifer Dempster, too? It’s just not fair.

  • JimV19 | April 8, 2010 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”384762″]…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Save me a couple of tickets for my son and me!

    Figures – sort of an off-day for me, I’m getting the free preview of MLB on DirecTV…and my Pirates are getting pummeled in a travel day matchup with the Dodgers.

    Don’t know who won today’s pierogie race. Sauerkraut Saul won on opening day and Jalapeno Hannah won last night. Kek should track that along with his uni tracking.

    Haven’t seen any stirrups, but a few guys on both teams appear to have solid soccer socks with high pants.

  • Mark in Shiga | April 8, 2010 at 3:00 pm |

    The Cubs’ bat boys

    I remember seeing a ball girl wearing a jersey with number 72 on the back as a kid, and also saw a bullpen catcher (?) wearing a jersey that said “BC” in 2001.

    Also, coach Juan Lopez has worn #59, and his kids have worn the same number when helping out as batboys.

    What number is Marla Collins wearing in that photo? If it’s 83, it would fit in with that 72-wearing ball girl from the ’80s. Then again, it could juet be the current year.

    (And why is there a name above it? Maybe that’s a fake uniform used for the photo.)

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”384782″][quote comment=”384765″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Totally OT but, is whiskey an acquired taste? At age 33, I still detest the taste of it.[/quote]

    Stop drinking crap like Jim Beam or Jack Daniels. Get some Bookers or Maker’s Mark.[/quote]
    And coming from someone with the moniker “bourbon soaked idiot” you can take that advice to the bank, Matthew.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”384788″][quote comment=”384768″] Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. [/quote]

    Recovering from an actual addiction is.[/quote]

    One more vote from our panel of experts for sexual addiction not being real.

    Now, to be fair, there are these issues…

    Was that actually was his problem (because a lot of guys behave the same way)?
    If they haven’t been diagnosed, does that mean they don’t have the problem? (I ask because I have two ex’s who are full-fledged alcoholics but, because they don’t admit it and haven’t been diagnosed, they’re not…know what I mean?)

    And there is this…the old saying that “Normal people are crazy…rich people get to be ‘eccentric’.”

    So let’s wait a year or so and see where Woods is then….instead of assuming that, by God, we got that sumbitch all figured out.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | April 8, 2010 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”384794″]The Cubs’ bat boys

    I remember seeing a ball girl wearing a jersey with number 72 on the back as a kid, and also saw a bullpen catcher (?) wearing a jersey that said “BC” in 2001.

    Also, coach Juan Lopez has worn #59, and his kids have worn the same number when helping out as batboys.

    What number is Marla Collins wearing in that photo? If it’s 83, it would fit in with that 72-wearing ball girl from the ’80s. Then again, it could juet be the current year.

    (And why is there a name above it? Maybe that’s a fake uniform used for the photo.)[/quote]
    I’m pretty sure it was 83. If memory serves, her number corresponded to the year. And she always had the NOB even though the team went NNOB at the time.

    I don’t remember the name of the girl who wore #72 (hell, I’m not sure if I ever knew it), but I know who you’re talking about. Not sure how long she stuck around, but I seem to remember her there for a few years, with that same number.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”384791″]If I drank as much as I wanted to screw, I would be in a gutter with an empty listerine bottle[/quote]

    You’re talking about actually acting on one thing and only thinking about (having the desire to do) the other.

    That’s a HUGE difference…so not quite a valid comparison.

    However…lord knows celebrity status and wealth are gonna get you a boatload more opportunities TO act on those desires.

    So exactly where is the line between “Normal” and “Normal and Simply Actually Having the Opportunity to Indulge Oneself”?

    Good question. Probably the KEY question.

    —Ricko

  • Andrew Wagner | April 8, 2010 at 3:25 pm |

    I didn’t have time to read thru the comments, but I did a quick search and didn’t see anyone mention Virginia today. They’re set to debut their new unis in about 5 min on campus. No idea how soon before they go online, however.

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”384782″][quote comment=”384765″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Totally OT but, is whiskey an acquired taste? At age 33, I still detest the taste of it.[/quote]

    Stop drinking crap like Jim Beam or Jack Daniels. Get some Bookers or Maker’s Mark.[/quote]

    I’ve tried Makers Mark, Dewar’s, and Macallan’s 12 year old, and I still don’t care for it.

    In the end, it’s probably a good thing that I don’t!

    Now back to unis…I would love to see a gold version of the horned buffs helmets.

  • JimV19 | April 8, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

    Someone mention curling pins?
    http://farm5.static....

    Got those earlier this year trading memorabilia.

  • MPowers1634 | April 8, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”384796″][quote comment=”384788″][quote comment=”384768″] Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. [/quote]

    Recovering from an actual addiction is.[/quote]

    One more vote from our panel of experts for sexual addiction not being real.

    Now, to be fair, there are these issues…

    Was that actually was his problem (because a lot of guys behave the same way)?
    If they haven’t been diagnosed, does that mean they don’t have the problem? (I ask because I have two ex’s who are full-fledged alcoholics but, because they don’t admit it and haven’t been diagnosed, they’re not…know what I mean?)

    And there is this…the old saying that “Normal people are crazy…rich people get to be ‘eccentric’.”

    So let’s wait a year or so and see where Woods is then….instead of assuming that, by God, we got that sumbitch all figured out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    “Poor people are crazy, me…I’m eccentric”.

    Denis Hopper in the film “Speed”.

  • Maria | April 8, 2010 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”384673″]Tim Lincecum states that he’s worn the same hat in all of his starts (91 of ’em). I guess that will change if he pitches on an “alternative-jersey” day — unless the Giants mix and match (like the Mets) their hat and jersey combos, or just don’t wear the alternatives with him on the mound.

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    If the Giants follow through on the ‘every friday night alternate’ deal, Lincecum is set to pitch on friday 4/23 which would be a home friday which would mean he would have to wear the hat with the orange brim.

  • Collin | April 8, 2010 at 3:44 pm |

    I just saw a Tigers road bat boy, and he had “Bat Boy” on his back with no uni number.

  • Ricko | April 8, 2010 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”384804″]I just saw a Tigers road bat boy, and he had “Bat Boy” on his back with no uni number.[/quote]

    Could we get a photo of him with Robin Ventura?
    Just, y’know, for the fun of writing the caption.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”384805″][quote comment=”384804″]I just saw a Tigers road bat boy, and he had “Bat Boy” on his back with no uni number.[/quote]

    Could we get a photo of him with Robin Ventura?
    Just, y’know, for the fun of writing the caption.[/quote]

    how about this guy instead

    /still one of the funniest beanball/charge mound/get shit kicked out of you moments ever

  • joe | April 8, 2010 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”384783″][quote comment=”384778″][quote comment=”384775″][quote comment=”384772″][quote comment=”384768″][quote comment=”384762″]ricko, too bad this isn’t a tennis forum, I’d go back and forth with you on this…but Ill just heed your advice, a shot whiskey chased with a beer…and just enjoyed the warm weather…and getting my tickets for wind up perogie day in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    Oh, man, I’m not saying the jury isn’t still out on Tiger. Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. But I’m not yet ready to label him a scumbag now and forever because of it, either.

    And I’d be among the LAST to defend Nike’s marketing. Just thinking that, as a dad, I’d be pleased if my son came out of a struggle like that and was comfortable letting the world know my voice still in his head.

    Nice to know that little boy I raised thinks highly of the Old Man.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    its not an addiction, he wanted to get laid.

    That’s the point of life.[/quote]

    And alcoholics are just looking for a little buzz.
    Y’know, relax a bit. Get mellow.
    Perfectly understandable and natural.

    But mostly, anybody else’s problem isn’t really a problem and they’re just exaggerating the snot out of it to cover their asses.

    Now, if we’re talking about MY problems, then they’re very real and very important.

    Right?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    last I checked alcohol wasn’t exactly required for the species to continue.[/quote]

    You heard it here first.
    No such thing as sexual addiction.

    Joe says so.

    While you’re at it, could you clear up this “Global Warming” thing for everyone, too?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    yeah its BS too, as to the man made portion. And I do actually have an advanced degree in biology, I can understand scientific papers and can spot the BS.

  • joe | April 8, 2010 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”384796″][quote comment=”384788″][quote comment=”384768″] Recovering from any addiction is a lifelong process. [/quote]

    Recovering from an actual addiction is.[/quote]

    One more vote from our panel of experts for sexual addiction not being real.

    Now, to be fair, there are these issues…

    Was that actually was his problem (because a lot of guys behave the same way)?
    If they haven’t been diagnosed, does that mean they don’t have the problem? (I ask because I have two ex’s who are full-fledged alcoholics but, because they don’t admit it and haven’t been diagnosed, they’re not…know what I mean?)

    And there is this…the old saying that “Normal people are crazy…rich people get to be ‘eccentric’.”

    So let’s wait a year or so and see where Woods is then….instead of assuming that, by God, we got that sumbitch all figured out.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    alcoholism is a choice, no one ever became an alcoholic (aside from FAS babies) w/o choosing to ingest the alcohol. I don’t care if the last 15 generation of your family were all alcoholics, if the next in line *chooses* not to drink they will never be addicted to alcohol. If they choose to drink they may be more susceptible to getting addicted to it, but it was their choice to go there.

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 4:04 pm |

    So … uh … uniforms … those things they wear on the playing field …

  • Andrew Wagner | April 8, 2010 at 4:05 pm |

    Excuse me about the UVA football unis, it’s actually tomorrow at 3:30, not today. My mix up there.

  • kyle. | April 8, 2010 at 4:35 pm |

    i can’t believe this was the first time someone has sent in a pic of the giant angels hats. i’d have done it ages ago, but i figured that would be old news.

    they’ve got a new coat of paint for the season; they were definitely looking bad last year.

  • chance michaels | April 8, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”384809″]So … uh … uniforms … those things they wear on the playing field …[/quote]
    Yeah, after two… interesting posts in a row, let’s talk about how the Mets are about to screw up their great snow-whites.

  • rpm | April 8, 2010 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”384737″][quote comment=”384726″][quote comment=”384724″]did bobby savoy have a number?[/quote]

    you mean annie? i think her number was brrrrowl, but it doesn’t translate into english numerals.[/quote]

    holy shit…i just realized the bull durham/the natural connection[/quote]

    so we have a savoy intersect on out night before the sabbath?

    i can’t stop shaking, i am freezing in here today. i never thought i would say this but i can’t wait to go ref hoops tonight. THAT’S how cold i am.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”384812″]
    Yeah, after two… interesting posts in a row, let’s talk about how the Mets are about to screw up their great snow-whites.[/quote]

    you know something?

    they’re not going BFBS are they? black/blue caps?

    say it ain’t so joe chance

  • Ben Fortney | April 8, 2010 at 4:56 pm |

    Whiskey conversations and Bull Durham? Fine form gentlemen.

    Crash Davis actually wore 3 numbers in the movie – #8 with Durham, #16 with Asheville, and #20 on his catching helmet.

    My whiskey of choice: Bushmills Black

    Also, as much as Shea/Citi has been dissected, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone bemoan the loss of the top hat to the new Apple. I always thought it was a nod to ‘Amazin’ rather than the ‘Big Apple’.

    Gary Cohen called the new encosure the “Apple Basket” last year, don’t think I’ve even heard anyone else refer to it.

  • chance michaels | April 8, 2010 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”384814″][quote comment=”384812″]
    Yeah, after two… interesting posts in a row, let’s talk about how the Mets are about to screw up their great snow-whites.[/quote]

    you know something?

    they’re not going BFBS are they? black/blue caps?

    say it ain’t so joe chance[/quote]
    No, they (if rumors are to be believed) are going to remove one of the things which work about the jersey (blue placket piping) while keeping what doesn’t (black dropshadow)

  • JimWa | April 8, 2010 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”384814″][quote comment=”384812″]
    Yeah, after two… interesting posts in a row, let’s talk about how the Mets are about to screw up their great snow-whites.[/quote]

    you know something?

    they’re not going BFBS are they? black/blue caps?

    say it ain’t so joe chance[/quote]

    A rumor I’m perfectly willing to start:

    They’re switching to this for one game, so nobody ever complains about the black again …

    http://www.goldpanne...

  • Agent_Torpor | April 8, 2010 at 5:06 pm |

    Great usherette outfits? Those dames looked like Chairman Mao’s Cultural Revolution Cadre.

  • Arkbear | April 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm |

    I don’t know if this is the actual new uni or just a graphic placeholder but ESPN has screen shots of Arkansas V. Michigan for NCAA 2011. Nike gets the contract for UA this fall and the only noticeable difference between last fall and these shots are the black face masks and the swoosh on the neck.

  • gueman | April 8, 2010 at 5:14 pm |

    I think they should use Roman numerals for the batboys jerseys. I played against a rugby team many years ago that did this and I always thought it was cool.

  • Ian | April 8, 2010 at 5:23 pm |

    Paul,

    I don’t think you dug deep enough on that link to San Francisco Giants farm club pics, becuase you missed this patriotic disaster. If it had been 1976, I could deal with it. But from 1982? Nuh-uh.

    And don’t say I didn’t warn you! :-)

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”384821″]Paul,

    I don’t think you dug deep enough on that link to San Francisco Giants farm club pics, becuase you missed this patriotic disaster. If it had been 1976, I could deal with it. But from 1982? Nuh-uh.

    And don’t say I didn’t warn you! :-)[/quote]

    “ok…everyone with a porn stash or who’s hitting one of the cheerleaders…front row & take a knee”

  • StL Marty | April 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm |

    Kudos to the good people at Mo Mas. My friend ordered two T,s from them, and they sent two of the same (Keep the Nets in New Jersey), one M and one L. They have since sent him the 1984 Ewing T-shirt(M) that he had originally ordered. They told him to go ahead and keep the Nets large. I wear large. I wear a new, free, kick ass t-shirt.

    I’ve said enough about the Doc Ellis video.
    “What a site, ladies and gentlemen! What a site!” -Les Nessman

  • The Hemogoblin | April 8, 2010 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”384821″]Paul,

    I don’t think you dug deep enough on that link to San Francisco Giants farm club pics, becuase you missed this patriotic disaster. If it had been 1976, I could deal with it. But from 1982? Nuh-uh.

    And don’t say I didn’t warn you! :-)[/quote]

    Holy God almighty, that is one disturbing picture.

  • pflava | April 8, 2010 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”384824″][quote comment=”384821″]Paul,

    I don’t think you dug deep enough on that link to San Francisco Giants farm club pics, becuase you missed this patriotic disaster. If it had been 1976, I could deal with it. But from 1982? Nuh-uh.

    And don’t say I didn’t warn you! :-)[/quote]

    Holy God almighty, that is one disturbing picture.[/quote]

    Those guys look like they’re in a musical about baseball.

  • LarryB | April 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm |

    http://ohiostatebuck...

    Ohio State pink highlights spring game uniforms?

  • Alec | April 8, 2010 at 6:48 pm |

    Brad Penny was rocking the ‘rips today, it just seemed like the stripes were a bit low on the calf.

  • Terence M. K. | April 8, 2010 at 6:52 pm |

    Paul,

    “my Brooklyn Beefsteak birthday bash last month. … ”

    That was a mouthful, figuratively and literally!

    Terence M.K.

    P.S. I’m still full…

  • Terence M. K. | April 8, 2010 at 7:06 pm |

    Mets Uni Trackers take note:

    Mets went all Blue on this home stand!! Blue caps/socks w/Pins on OD & Blue caps/socks w/snow whites Wed. and Thurs.!!! What’s the over/under for when we see black in any form?

    Terence M.K.

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”384829″]Mets Uni Trackers take note:

    Mets went all Blue on this home stand!! Blue caps/socks w/Pins on OD & Blue caps/socks w/snow whites Wed. and Thurs.!!! What’s the over/under for when we see black in any form?

    Terence M.K.[/quote]
    I think the Marlins tendency to wear black on the road may have influenced the Mets uniform selection. Plus, I remember seeing somewhere that the mets tend to go black on Fridays> So, I expect to see them in black tomorrow against the Nats.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 7:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”384829″]Mets went all Blue on this home stand!!.[/quote]

    don’t jinx it…the homestand’s not over

    still got 3 this weekend with the natinals

  • Ben Fortney | April 8, 2010 at 8:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”384829″]
    Mets went all Blue on this home stand!!
    [/quote]

    Hallelujah.

  • Terence M. K. | April 8, 2010 at 8:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”384831″][quote comment=”384829″]Mets went all Blue on this home stand!!.[/quote]

    don’t jinx it…the homestand’s not over

    still got 3 this weekend with the natinals[/quote]

    Well, I got tix for Johan on Sunday and will be pissed off if I don’t get to see the Pins again!

    Terence M.K.

  • Terry D. | April 8, 2010 at 8:15 pm |

    Just tuned in to the Braves-Cubs game, so I only caught part of this uni-centric discussion on Peachtree TV. Either the Braves or the MLB have this jersey rule, that a player’s jersey cannot be sold for profit until he makes an OFFICIAL debut in the Bigs (meaning five innings)

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”384834″]Just tuned in to the Braves-Cubs game, so I only caught part of this uni-centric discussion on Peachtree TV. Either the Braves or the MLB have this jersey rule, that a player’s jersey cannot be sold for profit until he makes an OFFICIAL debut in the Bigs (meaning five innings)[/quote]
    Damn, you would think the Nationals would have brought Strasburg up and had him pitch one game just so they could sell some shirts

  • FormerDirtDart | April 8, 2010 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”384833″][quote comment=”384831″][quote comment=”384829″]Mets went all Blue on this home stand!!.[/quote]

    don’t jinx it…the homestand’s not over

    still got 3 this weekend with the natinals[/quote]

    Well, I got tix for Johan on Sunday and will be pissed off if I don’t get to see the Pins again!

    Terence M.K.[/quote]
    yeah, that would be OK, Sundays and special occasions the Mets wear the pins…yeah, that ain’t gonna happen

  • Jerry | April 8, 2010 at 9:06 pm |

    No more “Sioux a girls name” cheers at Badger Hockey games.

    http://host.madison....

  • Kaptain K | April 8, 2010 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”384734″][quote comment=”384731″][quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...
    Goes back farther than that – they’ve had a black jersey and cap since 2000. The current version made its debut in 2008.[/quote]

    And I’m sure that this guy is spinning in his grave anytime the A’s don the black:
    http://1.bp.blogspot...

    I met an ex-son-in-law of Charlie O’s about 14 years ago, and I remember him mentioning that Finley was a huge, HUGE Notre Dame fan most of his life; that had to be a heavy influence (along with his Irish heritage) for the KC A’s, Memphis Tams and California Golden Seals team colors change to green and gold when he owned them.

  • Kaptain K | April 8, 2010 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”384734″][quote comment=”384731″][quote comment=”384725″]I know all you New Yorkers talk a lot about the horror of the Mets wearing black, but what in the name of all that is holy are the Oakland A’s doing wearing black uniforms and caps as they did Wednesday night?

    They looked more like the Pittsburgh Steelers’ summer slo-pitch team — I barely made out any green on them! Just wrong![/quote]
    They have had them since 2008, I believe. No doubt trying to hedge the local “Raiders” and of course “gangsta” market
    http://bats.blogs.ny...
    Goes back farther than that – they’ve had a black jersey and cap since 2000. The current version made its debut in 2008.[/quote]

    And I bet that this guy is, well, um, spinning in his grave every time the A’s don the black:

    http://www.findagrav...

    I met an ex-son-in-law of Charlie O’s about 14 years ago, and he told me that Finley was a huge, HUGE Notre Dame fan most of his life; I’m sure that had a lot to do with the KC A’s, Memphis Tams and the California Golden Seals changing their team colors to green and gold.

  • Collin | April 8, 2010 at 10:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”384834″]Just tuned in to the Braves-Cubs game, so I only caught part of this uni-centric discussion on Peachtree TV. Either the Braves or the MLB have this jersey rule, that a player’s jersey cannot be sold for profit until he makes an OFFICIAL debut in the Bigs (meaning five innings)[/quote]

    Yeah, I was watching the Tigers game, and they said the Braves had to wait until the 5th inning opening day to sell Heyward jerseys. They said that there were 500 sold during that game alone.

  • Patrick in MI | April 8, 2010 at 10:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”384821″]Paul,

    I don’t think you dug deep enough on that link to San Francisco Giants farm club pics, becuase you missed this patriotic disaster. If it had been 1976, I could deal with it. But from 1982? Nuh-uh.

    And don’t say I didn’t warn you! :-)[/quote]

    My oh my! Those unis rival the Tuscon Toros for worst ever in baseball, well minors at least.

  • Teebz | April 8, 2010 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”384820″]I think they should use Roman numerals for the batboys jerseys. I played against a rugby team many years ago that did this and I always thought it was cool.[/quote]

    Kinda like these guys?

    There’s a distinct lack of hockey on this board.

  • LI Phil | April 8, 2010 at 11:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”384845″]
    There’s a distinct lack of hockey on this board.[/quote]

    and that’s bad because…?

  • Jo | April 9, 2010 at 12:12 am |

    i heard on fsn ohio that the reds’ grounds crew and ushers wore suits for wednesday’s game against the cardinals, but i can’t seem to find any pictures or articles to confirm it.

  • Teebz | April 9, 2010 at 12:12 am |

    [quote comment=”384846″][quote comment=”384845″]
    There’s a distinct lack of hockey on this board.[/quote]

    and that’s bad because…?[/quote]

    Do I need to answer that?

  • Mark in Shiga | April 9, 2010 at 8:23 am |

    [quote comment=”384797″][quote comment=”384794″]The Cubs’ bat boys

    I remember seeing a ball girl wearing a jersey with number 72 on the back as a kid, and also saw a bullpen catcher (?) wearing a jersey that said “BC” in 2001.

    Also, coach Juan Lopez has worn #59, and his kids have worn the same number when helping out as batboys.

    What number is Marla Collins wearing in that photo? If it’s 83, it would fit in with that 72-wearing ball girl from the ’80s. Then again, it could juet be the current year.

    (And why is there a name above it? Maybe that’s a fake uniform used for the photo.)[/quote]
    I’m pretty sure it was 83. If memory serves, her number corresponded to the year. And she always had the NOB even though the team went NNOB at the time.

    I don’t remember the name of the girl who wore #72 (hell, I’m not sure if I ever knew it), but I know who you’re talking about. Not sure how long she stuck around, but I seem to remember her there for a few years, with that same number.[/quote]

    JTH, [b]thank you![/b] So I wasn’t just imagining it!

    It would have been around ’85 or ’86 — definitely at the same time that The Fridge was wearing the same number for the Bears.

    I always thought the ’86 Mets’ Paul and Mike were the first to wear the year on their backs in what later became a tradition, but it looks like Marla Collins has them beaten!

  • joe | April 9, 2010 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”384794″]The Cubs’ bat boys

    I remember seeing a ball girl wearing a jersey with number 72 on the back as a kid, and also saw a bullpen catcher (?) wearing a jersey that said “BC” in 2001.

    Also, coach Juan Lopez has worn #59, and his kids have worn the same number when helping out as batboys.

    What number is Marla Collins wearing in that photo? If it’s 83, it would fit in with that 72-wearing ball girl from the ’80s. Then again, it could juet be the current year.

    (And why is there a name above it? Maybe that’s a fake uniform used for the photo.)[/quote]
    the 72 would almost certainly be due to teh fact eh cubs are broadcast on WGN radio, 720 AM chicago, and have been pretty much since time began