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Even Duluth, St. Paddy’s Day Brings Out the, uh, Best in People

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That’s Jeff Isaacson, who was the second on the U.S. Olympic curling team. As you can see, he was overcome by the holiday spirit last night. And yes, he was drinking green Stella (which, trust me, was a lot more green than the photos would suggest).

Jeff was one of several world-class curlers who convened last night in advance of the House of Hearts bonspiel. Others included Jason Smith (U.S. Olympian) and Katja Kiiskinen (Finnish national champion), Hammy MacMillan (former world champion), and, seated from left to right, John Shuster (U.S. Olympic skip), Joelle Sabourin (Quebec provincial champion), and Cathy Derick (Quebec provincial champion). Swell people, one and all.

Earlier in the day, newly crowned U.S. national champion Tyler George helped whip me into shape (sorry, that’s the closest we came to a non-blurry photo of my, uh, technique). The sweater I’m wearing there is not an official curling sweater — just an old cardigan from my vintage collection. But I’ll have a jen-yoo-wine curling sweater when the bonspiel begins on Friday.

Assuming I don’t have alcohol poisoning by then, that is. To hear Tyler tell it, the House of Hearts is basically one long frat party punctuated by occasional spurts of curling. I figured he was exaggerating, but everyone he’s introduced me to out here — and I mean everyone — has had the same reaction upon hearing that I’ll be participating in the HoH: a sort of half-envious, half-pitying smirk, followed by, “You do realize what you’re getting into, don’t you?” After hearing this for the fifth or sixth time, I said, “What, I’m gonna be doing Jell-o shots off the Swedish curler’s belly?” The response: “No, but you’ll definitely be doing them from the barmaid’s cleavage.”

Okaaaaaay.

Tyler and I also spent part of the day watching some league curlers, so I could get a feel for anticipating and analyzing shots in various game situations. At one point I took out my camcorder and asked him a few questions about the HoH. Here’s the very dynamic video clip that resulted:

Anyway: New ESPN column today. Link coming soon. tomorrow, as it turns out.

Meanwhile, here’s Phil with today’s Ticker:

ticker 2Uni Watch News Ticker: “Not sure of this has been sent your way before or not,” notes UW uni historian Tim Brulia, “but Historical Football Kits from the UK posted a link to the history of the Brazilian National Soccer Kits. It is very nicely done.” … “First Time Long Time” contributer Michael Hart says this new Michigan practice jersey with the adidas 3-stripes is “terrible.” … Jason Hillyer found this nugget in the Colmubus Dispatch showing that Victoria’s Secret is rolling out lines of shirts, sweats and other apparel in a co-branding deal with Major League Baseball. … Pretty neat thing that Clark Ruhland has done: he designed the pocket schedule cards for Virginia Tech football this season and posted the designs on his website. Says Clark, “I don’t work for Tech (yet), but I graduated from there in ’07 and got an opportunity to design them. My only requirement from the athletic department was that each card had to have a different uniform that Tech wore in 2009.” … Jonas Miller’s new mask: Home-and-away concept, “Beginning stages,” notes John Muir. “Notice that the ear holes are not the normal triangles/holes, but duck feet. Here are some comparisons.” … Wayne Koehler notes that the University of Massachusetts-Lowell was wearing nice double striped high stirrups in a game vs. Florida Southern College on March 13th. #14 appeared to be the only one showing both red stripes, however. Wayne noticed the strange numerals as well. … Thomas Langan found this fantastic set of 1969/70 Topps Basketball Rulers on eBay … Good spot by Jameson Costello who noticed something you don’t see much, if ever, anymore: One batting glove! … Last season, you may recall, the Boston Red Sox wore white jerseys with green lettering to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day — this year, they went back to full-blown green jerseys and caps. … But the Sawks weren’t alone in the sporting o’the green yesterday, as they were joined by the A’s, Pads, Royals, Dodgers, Bravos, Phillies, and the Mets (note the grapefruit on the side of the cap), as well as the Mariners, in a late starting game. Looks like the caps were adjustable, not fitteds. A photo gallery is hereTyler Hull checks in with some netminder news: due to damages Brian Elliot of the Ottawa Senators had to wear 3 different masks against the Toronto Maple Leafs the other day. Interesting how the second two were not only blank, but different colors. … Soccer affectionado Steven Wong notes this seems to be the new Arsenal home kit for the 2010-2011 season to celebrate 125th Anniversary kit. Steven’s verdict? “It’s a beaut!!” … Bob Nolte has a question about Siena’s practice jerseys. “Never seen practice jerseys like Siena’s (pics 7-12). Look more like the dazzle fabric than the normal mesh reversible practice jerseys. I’ve also been following them for a long time and dont think its an old game jersey. Any thoughts?” … Our resident Life documentarian Lance “Squiddie” Smith writes, “This is a photo of Oklahoma coach Bud Wilkinson (right) working out a football play using little football figures in 1954.” Great shot. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The St. Louis Cardinals are declaring this season diversity “a cause for celebration at Busch Stadium.” They’re having 6 different “Heritage Days/Nights,” celebrating African-American, Italian, Asian and Irish Heritage Days, and Hispanic and German Nights. Interesting “colors” for the Hispanic Heritage Night, as it looks like they’ve multipurposed the flags of several different nations into their graphic. … Stephen Brookman grabbed two shots of Jim Burt (with the Niners) and has a question for the board: “Do you have any idea why Jim Burt of the 49ers did not have TV numbers or stripes on his jersey during the 1990 NFC Championship game?” Anyone? … Late last evening, as noted, above the Mariners wore green caps for St. Patty’s day. Reader Mitch Goodman was johnny-on-the-spot with a screen grab: “As I’m sure you’re aware of, the Seattle Mariners wore green caps on Wednesday night for St. Patrick’s Day, but what was interesting was the hats were not fitted, but adjustable. Can’t remember ever seeing adjustable caps in a major league game, even spring training.” … Michael Kramer informs us that Liverpool’s new kits have been leaked. … And, of course, the New Jersey Devils turned on the way back machine by returning to their original green and red colorscheme…with the wonderful new Edge cut. Huge Gallery of pics hereDouggie Keklak noticed these excellent photos, “not as cool as that snowy baseball photo Paul ran recently, but I thought these shots of Johnstown High getting ready for the season were pretty cool.” Chad Cate just found something that will help us waste the entire day enrich our knowledge base: “Popular Science recently worked with Google to index all of their magazines. I came across this article about a helmet with built in glasses worn by Frank Jablonski of Penn.” Wow! … Michael Hardman reports that UGA QB Aaron Murray is experimenting with a glove on his throwing hand. … Color-on-color alert. That’s Tulsa and Kent State yesterday in the NIT (as noted by Jody Michael).

Thank you, friend: RIP, LX. You’ll be sorely missed. — Paul

 

130 comments to Even Duluth, St. Paddy’s Day Brings Out the, uh, Best in People

  • Ryan B | March 18, 2010 at 8:48 am |

    I watched the Red Sox/Mets game yesterday afternoon (breaking in a new TV) and I can state with 95% certainty the Red Sox wore fitted caps. As far as I can remember, they always have on St. Patrick’s Day.

  • Mark K | March 18, 2010 at 8:53 am |

    I can’t believe they’re still shoving this edge cut hem down our throats- even for retro jerseys. It looks so stupid with horizontal stripes.

    I was somewhat disappointed that Nike was using a similar hem for the Olympics- nothing like copying a stupid idea.

    That ticker image is cool.

  • don g | March 18, 2010 at 9:02 am |

    So, can anyone explain the MLB obsession with St. Pat’s Day? I just think the green jerseys/hats are poorly executed. Why do all teams use the same shade of green? If they put some more effort into the uni design, it could be awesome.

  • flyersfan | March 18, 2010 at 9:08 am |

    Devils “Retro” Edge Unis

    Do we really need to see MB’s jockstrap? Does the word “crop” mean anything to the ESPN photo editors?

  • scott | March 18, 2010 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”382126″]So, can anyone explain the MLB obsession with St. Pat’s Day? I just think the green jerseys/hats are poorly executed. Why do all teams use the same shade of green? If they put some more effort into the uni design, it could be awesome.[/quote]

    I think MLB is doing just fine with the annual promotion. It’s only spring training, after all, and other sports are in the middle of their seasons, yet on March 17 everyone’s talking about baseball. So, it seems to me, things are already awesome.

  • Original Jim | March 18, 2010 at 9:15 am |

    UMass-Lowell has been using that “beveled” style of numbering and lettering since Phoenix Design Works (bastards) redesigned the athletic identity a few years ago.

    I don’t think the beveling is as obvious on the other teams’ uniforms…I believe the hockey team’s numbers are solid colors.

  • Mark Richter | March 18, 2010 at 9:16 am |

    Funny thing about the Devils original colors … in their first season in NJ, I had only seen a few photos and it looked from those like their colors were red and black, so I just assumed this was the case. Then I attended a game later that year when the Devils were in STL and was shocked when they came out for warmups wearing red and GREEN! At first I thought it was some sort of joke.

  • KimK | March 18, 2010 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”382126″]So, can anyone explain the MLB obsession with St. Pat’s Day? I just think the green jerseys/hats are poorly executed. Why do all teams use the same shade of green? If they put some more effort into the uni design, it could be awesome.[/quote]

    Can’t speak with authority on this for the whole league, but the Phillies have done St. Patrick’s Day things since at least the early 1980’s and maybe the late 1970’s. I think back then it was just green hats for fun. I think the Red Sox did similar stunts back then, too. Both cities have big Irish-American populations, and it was fun.

    Since then, marketing weenies have gotten involved, and ‘fun’ is spelled differently now (‘profit’).

  • LI Phil | March 18, 2010 at 9:28 am |

    “i’d legally change my birthday”

    –tyler george

  • Matt Brosseau | March 18, 2010 at 9:33 am |

    The diapers on the Devils’ jerseys almost ruined the look. Almost. The great stripes on the breezers redeemed it.

    Lou Lamoriello may have to remove the stick from his ass a couple more times in the future as this promotion, meant to be a one-off, was extremely popular.

    One minor quibble I have with this specific type of promotion is that it devalues the original red-and-green jerseys. A lot of newfangled RBK Christmas trees were sold to Devils fans, and I think that’s got to take some of the sauce out of the real old-schoolers who wore red and green in previous seasons.

    Same thing happened now that the Whalers’ trademark ran out. I wore Whalers hoodies and jerseys all over the place in years past and always got positive comments on it. Now it’s ubiquitous, and although it’s nice to see Pucky and the HW logo more, I have to say some of the fun’s been taken out of it.

  • Tom | March 18, 2010 at 9:33 am |

    Those Padres St. Pat’s caps have the SWINGING PADRE on them!!! http://sports.espn.g...

  • Tom | March 18, 2010 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”382134″]Those Padres St. Pat’s caps have the SWINGING PADRE on them!!! http://sports.espn.g...

    I’ve never seen a team use a secondary logo for a St. Pats cap! Let alone such a fantastic logo!

  • JimWa | March 18, 2010 at 9:38 am |

    “Can’t remember ever seeing adjustable caps in a major league game, even spring training”

    Lots of it going on after 9/11.

    Also, more on advertising at Wrigley in this morning’s Trib:

    http://www.chicagotr...

  • JimWa | March 18, 2010 at 9:41 am |

    As for the St. Pat’s jerseys … anyone know why the batting practice jersey is used as the template? Is it laziness, indifference, or intentional (you know, cause I’d LOVE to not just buy a BP jersey, but one not even in my team’s colors? BRING IT ON!)?

  • Luther Mahoney | March 18, 2010 at 9:42 am |

    Re.: The Bud Wilkinson football figures.

    The Leland’s auction site has the Wilkinson figures listed in it’s current auction.

  • chance michaels | March 18, 2010 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”382126″]So, can anyone explain the MLB obsession with St. Pat’s Day? I just think the green jerseys/hats are poorly executed. Why do all teams use the same shade of green? If they put some more effort into the uni design, it could be awesome.[/quote]

    Same reason all clubs are moving to the same shade of gray – that’s what happens when a league contracts with a single supplier.

  • chance michaels | March 18, 2010 at 9:43 am |

    Sorry, that should be “all clubs are moving to the same shade of gray for their road uniforms.”

  • JimWa | March 18, 2010 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”382140″]Sorry, that should be “all clubs are moving to the same shade of gray for their road uniforms.”[/quote]

    If the Padres move to the same shade of gray as everyone else, would it be a startling change, or would nobody even notice?

  • Roger Faso | March 18, 2010 at 9:47 am |

    Were the A’s included in the St. Paddy’s news ticker to prevent one of us yahoos from commenting, “hey … the A’s wore green yesterday, too.” ?

  • chance michaels | March 18, 2010 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”382141″][quote comment=”382140″]Sorry, that should be “all clubs are moving to the same shade of gray for their road uniforms.”[/quote]

    If the Padres move to the same shade of gray as everyone else, would it be a startling change, or would nobody even notice?[/quote]
    Well, in that case it would be a startling improvement.

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 9:56 am |

    “Why do all teams use the same shade of green?”

    Huh? Because it’s kelly green, of course. Y’know, the traditional color of shamrocks n’ stuff? They should wear olive? Or lime?
    (eye roll)

    re: Non-fitted caps.
    What, no one understands how much less expensive it is (for a one game thing) to go with “one size fits all” and not fart around with ordering a hat in every player’s particular size? Also goes to why all the same color, as if Kelly Green weren’t enough reason. P.S. Adjustables were quite often standard in spring training 20-30 years ago.

    re: “Obsession” with St. Pat’s.
    I think it is quite simply an excuse to have little fun just about the time spring training is getting REALLY monotonous. Also has become a sort of traditional sign that there are only couple weeks left before finally “heading north”

    —Ricko

  • kiwionastick | March 18, 2010 at 9:56 am |

    Good luck on the ice Paul! As a fellow curler, my liver knows that you’ll need it.

    Also, be sure to take lots of pics of the two ladies from PEI, Geri-Lynn and Erin (you’ll see what I mean).

  • Southern Fried Yankee | March 18, 2010 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”382142″]Were the A’s included in the St. Paddy’s news ticker to prevent one of us yahoos from commenting, “hey … the A’s wore green yesterday, too.” ?[/quote]

    My money is on ABSOLUTE YES, knowing those on this blog

  • EricRomain | March 18, 2010 at 10:04 am |

    The Devils looked great (EDGE diaper aside)
    I don’t expect them to ever go back to green fulltime, but i love that extra white sock & sleeve stripe, the striping on the pants looked so good, i would love to see them add those stripes to their black pants. I really liked how the red helmets brightened up their overall look. It would have been nice if they had worn white earloops instead of black (like helmets were back in that era) but now i’m just nitpicking.

  • Patrick in MI | March 18, 2010 at 10:11 am |

    The link for the VT pocket skeds is not working, perhaps too many uni-clickers? I was hoping the Hokies would have worn a green version of the rainbow guts uni yesterday, alas.

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”382146″][quote comment=”382142″]Were the A’s included in the St. Paddy’s news ticker to prevent one of us yahoos from commenting, “hey … the A’s wore green yesterday, too.” ?[/quote]

    My money is on ABSOLUTE YES, knowing those on this blog[/quote]
    Since we’re already down this path…

    The team playing the Dodgers wore green caps as well.
    And then there’s the NBA: the Bulls wore green, as did the Raptors. The Celtics broke out their gold-trimmed unis.

    Anyone else?

  • Sam D. | March 18, 2010 at 10:18 am |

    In the past few years, several teams have worn adjustable caps for St. Patrick’s Day. It’s not a new thing at all.

  • Rob | March 18, 2010 at 10:19 am |

    As I said in yesterday’s comments. All for the St. Patty’s but I agree with Don G.

    [quote comment=”382126″]So, can anyone explain the MLB obsession with St. Pat’s Day? I just think the green jerseys/hats are poorly executed. Why do all teams use the same shade of green? If they put some more effort into the uni design, it could be awesome.[/quote]

    There is so many more appropriate design teams could incorporate into their existing color schemes and design that would increase their “marketing.” With simple design choices it would be easy peasy. I mean the Dodger’s one from yesterday took me all of 5 minutes at work (http://bit.ly/c9mbFq).

    The Brooklyn Cyclones have heritage nights every year and they go all out on their unis. I particularly love the Jewish Heritage Night ones.

    Jewish Heritage Night
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Irish Heritage Night
    https://ismmedia.com...

    Pro teams could at least pony up and keep pace with their minor league cohorts. And as I said, the marketing weekies would love it cause it would sell like hot cakes.

    *two cents*

  • Ry Co 40 | March 18, 2010 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”382125″]I can’t believe they’re still shoving this edge cut hem down our throats- even for retro jerseys. It looks so stupid with horizontal stripes.

    I was somewhat disappointed that Nike was using a similar hem for the Olympics- nothing like copying a stupid idea.

    That ticker image is cool.[/quote]

    pretty sure nike started it (on a collegiate & international scale), and reebok followed.

  • War Damn Eagle | March 18, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    Best uni matchups of the NCAA 1st round?

    3 Georgetown
    14 Ohio
    http://farm3.static....

    http://www.ohiobobca...

    7 Oklahoma State
    10 Georgia Tech
    http://farm4.static....

    http://nimg.sulekha....

    4 Vanderbilt
    13 Murray State
    http://www.flickr.co...
    http://www.flickr.co...

    7 BYU
    10 Florida
    http://www.deseretne...
    http://i38.photobuck...

    8 Texas
    9 Wake Forest
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://www.flickr.co...

    7 Richmond
    10 St. Mary’s
    http://www.thecolleg...

    http://www.tucsoncit...

  • joe | March 18, 2010 at 10:24 am |

    You show the mets wearing adjustable caps then mention the M’s doing so with the comment you don’t ever remember seeing that before.

  • Rob | March 18, 2010 at 10:26 am |

    Pardon my ignorance, but this edge cut is what causes that weird white bib effect at the bottom of those Devil’s jerseys?

  • Ry Co 40 | March 18, 2010 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”382135″][quote comment=”382134″]Those Padres St. Pat’s caps have the SWINGING PADRE on them!!! http://sports.espn.g...

    I’ve never seen a team use a secondary logo for a St. Pats cap! Let alone such a fantastic logo![/quote]

    wish they would sell those!

  • Jeremy | March 18, 2010 at 10:30 am |

    cool uni-related news (albeit a year and a half ago and maybe already brought up here) in this article. Richmond had special European style unifohttp://tourney.si.com/2010/03/17/las-aranas-are-lurking-in-the-south/rms for the summer trip to Spain.

  • Jim BC | March 18, 2010 at 10:31 am |

    Big thumbs down to the Devils’ retros. Whatever potential positives are wasted with the ridiculous Edge hem. I simply do not understand why, for one game, they could not have simply duplicated the original design (I’d even put up with the Vector logo on the back).

    The Flames did it right this year. Why couldn’t the Devils have done it too?:

    http://scores.espn.g...

  • Jeremy | March 18, 2010 at 10:33 am |

    neat uni-related news in this story- Richmond basketball team wore special Euro style unis for their 2008 summer tour of Spain http://tourney.si.co...

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”382154″]You show the mets wearing adjustable caps then mention the M’s doing so with the comment you don’t ever remember seeing that before.[/quote]

    Might want to reread that.
    The whole Ticker, I mean.
    Remark re: Mariners is quoting the guy who sent the screen grab.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”382154″]You show the mets wearing adjustable caps then mention the M’s doing so with the comment you don’t ever remember seeing that before.[/quote]
    1) For the separate Mariners ticker item, he was quoting Mitch Goodman, the guy who submitted it.
    2)Perhaps you didn’t notice this:[quote comment=”382132″]
    … But the Sawks weren’t alone in the sporting o’the green yesterday, as they were joined by the A’s, Pads, Royals, Dodgers, Bravos, Phillies, and the Mets (note the grapefruit on the side of the cap), as well as the Mariners, in a late starting game. Looks like the caps were adjustable, not fitteds.[/quote]

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 10:37 am |

    Oops. Ricko beat me to the punch.

  • Squiddie | March 18, 2010 at 10:37 am |

    Wikipedia says the Cincinnati Reds were the first team to wear the green caps in 1978 and the Red Sawks didn’t start until 1990.

    While I recall the Reds going Green in the 70s, I thought some team did it earlier. I was thinking maybe Brooklyn, but I’m probably just thinking of the 1937 season. Teams really didn’t have the money for a one day cap before the 70s.

  • Perry | March 18, 2010 at 10:41 am |

    I’d really love it (and buy one immediately) if that were really the Arsenal shirt for 10-11, but I don’t believe their sponsor Emirates is going to put up that tiny little lettering below the badge. Maybe a one-off for the anniversary, which would still be cool, but not for the whole season.

  • mmwatkin | March 18, 2010 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”382144″]
    re: Non-fitted caps.
    What, no one understands how much less expensive it is (for a one game thing) to go with “one size fits all” and not fart around with ordering a hat in every player’s particular size? Also goes to why all the same color, as if Kelly Green weren’t enough reason. P.S. Adjustables were quite often standard in spring training 20-30 years ago.
    [/quote]

    I don’t understand why they go to the extreme of adjustable caps. I don’t think it would be necessary to supply the team will official 5950’s, but I don’t see why they couldn’t make them all 3930’s like the BP caps (some teams might do that now). The BP caps come in Small/Medium and Medium/Large and are stretch fit. Not hard to supply teams with a box or two of those for one game.

    Adjustable fit caps are so amateurish and seem low budget. If you are going to do a promotion, don’t half ass it at the MLB level.

  • Drew Hunziker | March 18, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    It’s Jonas Hiller, not Miller.

  • Brian | March 18, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    Really surprised this hasn’t been mentioned already, but I went through today’s post fairly carefully and didn’t see it. Here is MLB’s article on green for St. Patrick’s Day.

  • marc | March 18, 2010 at 10:55 am |

    re: heritage night

    where does it end? does this mean that now we’ll be subjected to jerseys that read “der dodgers” and “o’yankees?”

  • Southern Fried Yankee | March 18, 2010 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”382149″][quote comment=”382146″][quote comment=”382142″]Were the A’s included in the St. Paddy’s news ticker to prevent one of us yahoos from commenting, “hey … the A’s wore green yesterday, too.” ?[/quote]

    My money is on ABSOLUTE YES, knowing those on this blog[/quote]
    Since we’re already down this path…

    The team playing the Dodgers wore green caps as well.
    And then there’s the NBA: the Bulls wore green, as did the Raptors. The Celtics broke out their gold-trimmed unis.

    Anyone else?[/quote]

    This St Pattys day stuff is like Jackie Robinson Day, it is easier to say who DIDNT Wear green that day, (who didnt wear 42)

    And as for heritage night in Brooklyn, those cyclone unis are cool, but they would have been better looking if they had talis (looking) hanging from the jerseys…

  • Southern Fried Yankee | March 18, 2010 at 10:57 am |

    This St Pattys day stuff is like Jackie Robinson Day, it is easier to say who DIDNT Wear green that day, (who didnt wear 42)

    And as for heritage night in Brooklyn, those cyclone unis are cool, but they would have been better looking if they had talis (looking) hanging from the jerseys…

  • oomac42 | March 18, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    Siena wearing Anaconda Sports practice gear. Its a thick mesh material.

    http://www.anacondas...

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”382168″]re: heritage night

    where does it end? does this mean that now we’ll be subjected to jerseys that read “der dodgers” and “o’yankees?”[/quote]
    Nope. If anything it’d be “Die Dodgers.” Der is the German masculine singular nominative case definite article. Die is used for plurals.

    And O’Yankees would translate to “grandson of Yankees.”

  • Father Schnippel | March 18, 2010 at 11:04 am |

    Reds do Green as well, with the adjustable strip: http://ramsey.mlblog...

    From the excellent ‘Better Off Red’ blog by Jamie Ramsey, Reds PR guy: http://ramsey.mlblog...

  • Rob | March 18, 2010 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”382168″]re: heritage night

    where does it end? does this mean that now we’ll be subjected to jerseys that read “der dodgers” and “o’yankees?”[/quote]

    Nah, it was an example. And for arguments sake, the jerseys still read, brooklyn cyclones. It is just a alternative jersey. There is that fine line between class and trash that all of these things dance around. I don’t want some no goodsnick heritage night debacle either. Just trying to emphasis the fact that the St. Patty’s/Heritage/whatever else unis could approach things with a bit more creativity.

  • Piping Mike | March 18, 2010 at 11:17 am |

    Regarding Jim Burt and the no TV numbers, I’ve got a couple comments:
    1. I remember when Burt was with the Giants (mid 80s) hearing an announcer say Burt had his jersey sized so small so he’d have no fabric to be held that they would have to physically cut if off him after every game. My guess is his jersey with the Niners was so small and tailored that the TV numbers would have been cut in half, so rather than move them – they just left them off. Burt was one of the first to go with the tight fit that is the norm today.
    2. Judging from the photo it looks like 49er Burt just laid out Simms (Hostetler?) of the Giants. I found the photo ironic because Burt, then of the Giants is well known for laying out Montana of the Niners in a 1986 playoff game and the resulting photo is similar (although earlier in sequence).
    http://assets.sbnati...

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”382165″][quote comment=”382144″]
    re: Non-fitted caps.
    What, no one understands how much less expensive it is (for a one game thing) to go with “one size fits all” and not fart around with ordering a hat in every player’s particular size? Also goes to why all the same color, as if Kelly Green weren’t enough reason. P.S. Adjustables were quite often standard in spring training 20-30 years ago.
    [/quote]

    I don’t understand why they go to the extreme of adjustable caps. I don’t think it would be necessary to supply the team will official 5950’s, but I don’t see why they couldn’t make them all 3930’s like the BP caps (some teams might do that now). The BP caps come in Small/Medium and Medium/Large and are stretch fit. Not hard to supply teams with a box or two of those for one game.

    Adjustable fit caps are so amateurish and seem low budget. If you are going to do a promotion, don’t half ass it at the MLB level.[/quote]

    Yeah, I’m sure they’re looking for ways to put MORE effort and money into a one-time promotion that basically is just to break up the monotony/routine of spring training.

    Some here talk about how they should do better, and we’ve heard all the subjective visions of always striving for the best, etc. Can anyone give us one truly practical, valid, objective reason why it would be worth any more trouble than it already is?

    I mean, come on, there are players running in the outfield during these game.

    I can only surmise that those who get all righteous about this haven’t spent much time around an MLB team in spring training.

    —Ricko

  • marc | March 18, 2010 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”382172″]If anything it’d be “Die Dodgers.” [/quote]

    BRAINFART! Shows how much I recall from three semesters of German in the 80s. 20+ years and a complete lack of conversational German will do that to you. So it’d be “Der Dodger” in reference to one player and “Die Dodgers” when referring to the entire team?

    @ rob: Sorry, dude… i was referring to the heritage night(s) in St. Louis where it was 6 different ethnicities being represented.

  • mmwatkin | March 18, 2010 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”382176″]
    Yeah, I’m sure they’re looking for ways to put MORE effort and money into a one-time promotion that basically is just to break up the monotony/routine of spring training.

    Some here talk about how they should do better, and we’ve heard all the subjective visions of always striving for the best, etc. Can anyone give us one truly practical, valid, objective reason why it would be worth any more trouble than it already is?

    I mean, come on, there are players running in the outfield during these game.

    I can only surmise that those who get all righteous about this haven’t spent much time around an MLB team in spring training.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well then, I guess that teams should stop throwback games. I mean, it is only one-time promotion.

    Why would it be worth more trouble? Because it is your team and how they look is a reflection on the organization as a whole. If this was 20-30 years ago when everyone wore adjustable caps and none of the games were on TV, I could see your point.

    Oh, and yeah, I haven’t spent much time around an MLB team in spring training. I don’t know how that would make my opinion any less valid. I think adjustable caps look cheap and stupid. It doesn’t take anything more than my eyes to make that judgment.

  • Mark in Shiga | March 18, 2010 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”382151″]Jewish Heritage Night
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Rob, those Hebrew numerals are pure unmitigated awesome. I wonder what they did for the guy with #15 — supposedly (somebody correct me if I’m wrong), the normal numerals for 10 and 5 are the same as the first two letters in “Yahweh”, so people write “9+6” instead.

    I hope they did that for the Cyclones’ #15. That would be aa really nice touch.

  • Jet | March 18, 2010 at 11:36 am |

    If we thought the striping on the new umpire shirts was bizarro, what the heck is going on with these pants? Ruined a BEAUTIFUL pair of stirrups!!

    http://farm5.static....

    -Jet

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”382177″]So it’d be “Der Dodger” in reference to one player and “Die Dodgers” when referring to the entire team?[/quote]
    Ha! Yeah, I guess so.

    So what would a single Miami player be called on Noche Latina?

  • Mark in Shiga | March 18, 2010 at 11:39 am |

    If anything it’d be “Die Dodgers.”

    To dodge, as in get out of the way of those trolleys that filled the streets of Brooklyn in the good old days, is “schweichen” in German. Could we call the team “Die Schweicher” for a day? I’m not a native German speaker, so I have no idea if that’ll pass the is-it-good-or-is-it-stupid test.

  • Rob | March 18, 2010 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”382177″][quote comment=”382172″]If anything it’d be “Die Dodgers.” [/quote]

    BRAINFART! Shows how much I recall from three semesters of German in the 80s. 20+ years and a complete lack of conversational German will do that to you. So it’d be “Der Dodger” in reference to one player and “Die Dodgers” when referring to the entire team?

    @ rob: Sorry, dude… i was referring to the heritage night(s) in St. Louis where it was 6 different ethnicities being represented.[/quote]

    Totally no worries man, I took no offense, just thought my point got misconstrued. It’s the internet. Nothing is real here anyways. Hah.

    @Mark in Shinga
    Yeh I have no idea what they actually say in hebrew, your guess is as good as mine for the numerals. I just love the way hebrew looks. Very beautiful letterforms.

  • marc | March 18, 2010 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”382178″]Well then, I guess that teams should stop throwback games. I mean, it is only one-time promotion.[/quote]

    just a thought… maybe the manufacturers see it as most people would wear the st. pats version of their team’s cap only on st. patrick’s day whereas they’d wear a throwback version throughout the year making the st. pats version more of a novelty purchase and hence more affordable. unless you’re irish, could you see yourself wearing a st. patrick’s day version of your teams cap on august 21st? i’d feel like a tool, but that’s just me.

  • The Jeff | March 18, 2010 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”382151″]As I said in yesterday’s comments. All for the St. Patty’s but I agree with Don G.

    [quote comment=”382126″]So, can anyone explain the MLB obsession with St. Pat’s Day? I just think the green jerseys/hats are poorly executed. Why do all teams use the same shade of green? If they put some more effort into the uni design, it could be awesome.[/quote]

    There is so many more appropriate design teams could incorporate into their existing color schemes and design that would increase their “marketing.” With simple design choices it would be easy peasy. I mean the Dodger’s one from yesterday took me all of 5 minutes at work (http://bit.ly/c9mbFq).
    [/quote]

    I agree in principle… but honestly that Dodgers cap isn’t different enough for anyone in the stands to even notice it. Making the letters completely green would be a better option.

  • Mark in Shiga | March 18, 2010 at 11:52 am |

    Rob, the guy in the picture seems to have a yodh (10) and teth (9) on his shirt, which would be 19. I can’t read the name of the team, though, so I don’t know if it’s ‘Cyclones’ or ‘Brooklyn’ or something else.

    Come to think of it, is this the first instance of right-to-left jersey numbers in the USA?

    We’ve seen vertical numbers before, and the St. Louis Blues had some kind of diagonal thing going on in the Mike Keenan era, but right-to-left? This must be a first.

  • marc | March 18, 2010 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”382182″]If anything it’d be “Die Dodgers.”

    To dodge, as in get out of the way of those trolleys that filled the streets of Brooklyn in the good old days, is “schweichen” in German. Could we call the team “Die Schweicher” for a day? I’m not a native German speaker, so I have no idea if that’ll pass the is-it-good-or-is-it-stupid test.[/quote]

    My vote is “good.” I understand the idea behind something like “Die Dodgers” simply because “Dodgers” is a team/product name and not necessarily meant to be a translatable word, but I like the idea that if you’re gonna make it German (or celebrated ethnic heritage du jour), ya might as well go whole hog. For instance, on something like Chinese heritage night, how stupid would it look for half the team name to be in Chinese and the other in English? Going all in is IMHO the proper way to go. After all, isn’t “Los Cerveceros” MUCH more appealing than “Los Brewers?”

  • Andy | March 18, 2010 at 11:55 am |

    The Cardinals’ heritage night logos are kind of neat, but I could do without the stereotypically ‘ethnic’ fonts. Devalues the whole program a bit, if you ask me. I would prefer a simple font that spans all 6 nights/logos.

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”382185″][quote comment=”382178″]Well then, I guess that teams should stop throwback games. I mean, it is only one-time promotion.[/quote]

    just a thought… maybe the manufacturers see it as most people would wear the st. pats version of their team’s cap only on st. patrick’s day whereas they’d wear a throwback version throughout the year making the st. pats version more of a novelty purchase and hence more affordable. unless you’re irish, could you see yourself wearing a st. patrick’s day version of your teams cap on august 21st? i’d feel like a tool, but that’s just me.[/quote]

    So far nothing but more subjective stuff.

    And, again, it’s spring training, people.

    The totally valid point about spending time around spring training is that if you have, you understand how incredibly laid back it really is. Not for players fighting for roster spots, of course. But, for established players, fans, media, even management (to a great extent) this is “feet up and tell your favorite stories” baseball. The only way anyone truly gets that, and knows how profoundly different spring training is from any other sport’s preseason training, is to have experienced it.

    To get all nuts around your St. Pat’s unis would be a little like inviting your neighbors over to see how nicely you repainted your mailbox.

    It just isn’t that critical a deal. Plain and simple.

    —Ricko

  • Jerry | March 18, 2010 at 11:59 am |

    Brian Elliott has two “T”‘s in his last name. One of the best to play the position at Wisconsin.

  • Vasav | March 18, 2010 at 12:01 pm |

    Two things on the Michigan practice jersey: I’m pretty sure they used the same jersey’s last year, and is the “‘First Time, Long Time’ Michael Hart” just a reference to the former Michigan running back and campus legend, or is Mike Hart, Michigan alum and Indianapolis Colt actually a uni-watcher?

  • scott | March 18, 2010 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”382151″]
    The Brooklyn Cyclones have heritage nights every year and they go all out on their unis. I particularly love the Jewish Heritage Night ones.

    Jewish Heritage Night
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Irish Heritage Night
    https://ismmedia.com...

    Pro teams could at least pony up and keep pace with their minor league cohorts. And as I said, the marketing weekies would love it cause it would sell like hot cakes.

    *two cents*[/quote]

    First, both major and minor league teams are “pro.”

    Second, fans are coming to spring training games because they love baseball, not for the promotions. Minor league teams have to do zany stuff to fill the seats and often go all out to create merchandise which is later auctioned off.

    Third, I would bet most MLB teams that do turn-back-the-clock nights or other events where they wear special uniforms do it as well or better than their minor league counterparts. To suggest otherwise is rather silly.

  • marc | March 18, 2010 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”382191″]To get all nuts around your St. Pat’s unis would be a little like inviting your neighbors over to see how nicely you repainted your mailbox.[/quote]

    That was kinda my point albeit from a manufacturers P.O.V. in that maybe they’re sitting back thinking, “this is no big deal, let’s keep it simple/affordable for both sides.”

  • Brendan | March 18, 2010 at 12:09 pm |

    According to this article, both the Pirates and Tigers wore green hats yesterday. They also used green bases.

    I also read the Kalamazoo of the ECHL used green ice for their game yesterday against Wheeling.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”382195″][quote comment=”382191″]To get all nuts around your St. Pat’s unis would be a little like inviting your neighbors over to see how nicely you repainted your mailbox.[/quote]

    That was kinda my point albeit from a manufacturers P.O.V. in that maybe they’re sitting back thinking, “this is no big deal, let’s keep it simple/affordable for both sides.”[/quote]

    Yup, and your point about the promotion not having particularly long legs is a HUGE element, too. Whole thing pretty much flames out in one day.

    —Ricko

  • Jet | March 18, 2010 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”382155″]Pardon my ignorance, but this edge cut is what causes that weird white bib effect at the bottom of those Devil’s jerseys?[/quote]

    sadly, yes…

    -Jet

  • Mike | March 18, 2010 at 12:25 pm |

    The Reds wore adjustable Green St. Paddy’s day hats last night too. I was a little intrigued by that as well.

  • Jet | March 18, 2010 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”382147″]The Devils looked great (EDGE diaper aside)
    I don’t expect them to ever go back to green fulltime, but i love that extra white sock & sleeve stripe, [/quote]

    I’ve always loved that extra stripe too. Sometimes the subtle things make a big difference.

    -Jet

  • marc | March 18, 2010 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”382198″]Yup, and your point about the promotion not having particularly long legs is a HUGE element, too. Whole thing pretty much flames out in one day.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Hey Ricko, not to get off topic, but I gotta tell ya as an everyday reader (and occasional ticker contributor) of this blog and your ubiquitous posts, I really enjoy your writing style (no disrespect intended, of course, toward Paul et al. — you guys kick ass too). A line like “the promotion not having particularly long legs” is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Colorful without being flowery. Nice work.

    Sorry all… didn’t mean to turn this into a Ricko-lovefest, but the man’s a quality writer and I felt an “attaboy” was necessary.

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”382202″][quote comment=”382198″]Yup, and your point about the promotion not having particularly long legs is a HUGE element, too. Whole thing pretty much flames out in one day.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Hey Ricko, not to get off topic, but I gotta tell ya as an everyday reader (and occasional ticker contributor) of this blog and your ubiquitous posts, I really enjoy your writing style (no disrespect intended, of course, toward Paul et al. — you guys kick ass too). A line like “the promotion not having particularly long legs” is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Colorful without being flowery. Nice work.

    Sorry all… didn’t mean to turn this into a Ricko-lovefest, but the man’s a quality writer and I felt an “attaboy” was necessary.[/quote]

    Compliment accepted. Thank you.

    (Now back to regular programming)

    —Ricko

  • James Craven | March 18, 2010 at 12:45 pm |

    Robert Morris on the March Madness uni update looks like they’re wearing Nike unis, bringing the total to 49.

  • James Craven | March 18, 2010 at 12:49 pm |

    And one change from the survey:

    Ohio in Russell Athletic, making four teams.

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”382203″][quote comment=”382202″][quote comment=”382198″]Yup, and your point about the promotion not having particularly long legs is a HUGE element, too. Whole thing pretty much flames out in one day.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Hey Ricko, not to get off topic, but I gotta tell ya as an everyday reader (and occasional ticker contributor) of this blog and your ubiquitous posts, I really enjoy your writing style (no disrespect intended, of course, toward Paul et al. — you guys kick ass too). A line like “the promotion not having particularly long legs” is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Colorful without being flowery. Nice work.

    Sorry all… didn’t mean to turn this into a Ricko-lovefest, but the man’s a quality writer and I felt an “attaboy” was necessary.[/quote]

    Compliment accepted. Thank you.

    (Now back to regular programming)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Looks like you’ve got your work cut out for you now, The Jeff.

  • Chris from Carver | March 18, 2010 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”382155″]Pardon my ignorance, but this edge cut is what causes that weird white bib effect at the bottom of those Devil’s jerseys?[/quote]

    sadly, yes…

    -Jet[/quote]
    Doesn’t Rbk edge just refer to the material that the jersey is, not the cut?

  • The Jeff | March 18, 2010 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”382206″][quote comment=”382203″][quote comment=”382202″][quote comment=”382198″]Yup, and your point about the promotion not having particularly long legs is a HUGE element, too. Whole thing pretty much flames out in one day.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Hey Ricko, not to get off topic, but I gotta tell ya as an everyday reader (and occasional ticker contributor) of this blog and your ubiquitous posts, I really enjoy your writing style (no disrespect intended, of course, toward Paul et al. — you guys kick ass too). A line like “the promotion not having particularly long legs” is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Colorful without being flowery. Nice work.

    Sorry all… didn’t mean to turn this into a Ricko-lovefest, but the man’s a quality writer and I felt an “attaboy” was necessary.[/quote]

    Compliment accepted. Thank you.

    (Now back to regular programming)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Looks like you’ve got your work cut out for you now, The Jeff.[/quote]

    I’ve kinda got nothing today. Although…
    we do seem to have a lot less comments on days when I generally agree with Ricko. Does the site get more ad revenue if we have more comments? I guess I could start something.

    (Insert comment about full length colored socks and/or brown horse-related logos here)

  • BurghFan | March 18, 2010 at 1:12 pm |

    Two things:

    1. The Pirates have been doing “ethnic celebrations” for a few years now, and it has no effect on what they wear on the field. (Fans who participate get caps in appropriate colors, like blue and white on Greek Day.)

    2. Ricko’s right about the St. Patrick’s day stuff. For the most part, it’s supposed to be simple, and a box of adjustable green caps fits that perfectly. Teams in green jerseys might put more effort into it, but it’s spring training, and most fans are probably blissfully unaware that anyone beside the A’s wore green caps.

  • concealed78 | March 18, 2010 at 1:19 pm |

    On St. Patrick’s Day & in September’s Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day, the past few years the White Sox have been wearing adjustable caps. They used to wear fitted green caps but don’t bother with it anymore.

  • JAson | March 18, 2010 at 1:23 pm |

    A “Die Dodgers” jersey would probably be pretty popular among Giants fans, no?

  • John | March 18, 2010 at 1:28 pm |

    Any chance you guys will be making the Giants’ new black/orange stripe sox? Count me in. I realize we will probably only see the stripes when Zito pitches…Now if they would only bury the flourescent CalTrans orange jerseys…

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”382210″]On St. Patrick’s Day & in September’s Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day, the past few years the White Sox have been wearing adjustable caps. They used to wear fitted green caps but don’t bother with it anymore.[/quote]
    No, they actually do it “right” for the halfway promotion: green pins instead of solid-green tops, fitted caps, green socks.

    You might be thinking of the one game a few years ago when New Era (inadvertently, or so they claimed) shipped the caps with their logo on the side. But to the best of my knowledge, they’ve never gone with adjustables on halfway day.

  • Christopher | March 18, 2010 at 1:39 pm |

    RIP Alex Chilton

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    Yeah, The Jeff and I are kinda like the lion and the lamb lately, aren’t we. Which is which? Take your pick.

    Reminds me of a story of the Tel Aviv Zoo.
    Had a lion and the lamb in the same cage.
    Visitors were amazed.
    “Remarkable,” said one, “that you can get a lion and lamb to lie down together like that.”
    “No problem,” the tour guide replied, “we just put in a new lamb every day.”

    (ba dum bum)

    Actually I think the point of the joke is, Don’t fuck with the Israelis.

    Or, it could be an allegory relating to about half the games in the first round of March Madness (which makes this comment INCREDIBLY timely). ;)

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | March 18, 2010 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”382208″]I’ve kinda got nothing today.[/quote]

    ok

  • reed | March 18, 2010 at 2:14 pm |

    tim tebow had an interesting “xv” design on his compression shirt at forida’s pro day. is that his logo? like lb23 or mv7?

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”382217″]tim tebow had an interesting “xv” design on his compression shirt at forida’s pro day. is that his logo? like lb23 or mv7?[/quote]

    Oh, man, if only marketing then had been like marketing is now.
    Given Paul Hornung’s reputation as a hound, his logo could have been…
    HumV.

    —Ricko
    (yes, I’ll take the blame for that one.)

    Or how about Favre using “IV” on account of a few more hints from the Saints and he might have needed one?

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 2:23 pm |

    “hits” not “hints”

    (grumble grumble)

  • Dane | March 18, 2010 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”382207″][quote comment=”382199″][quote comment=”382155″]Pardon my ignorance, but this edge cut is what causes that weird white bib effect at the bottom of those Devil’s jerseys?[/quote]

    sadly, yes…

    -Jet[/quote]
    Doesn’t Rbk edge just refer to the material that the jersey is, not the cut?[/quote]

    No, the entire package is part of the “Reebok Edge uniform system.”

  • joe | March 18, 2010 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”382161″][quote comment=”382154″]You show the mets wearing adjustable caps then mention the M’s doing so with the comment you don’t ever remember seeing that before.[/quote]
    1) For the separate Mariners ticker item, he was quoting Mitch Goodman, the guy who submitted it.
    2)Perhaps you didn’t notice this:[quote comment=”382132″]
    … But the Sawks weren’t alone in the sporting o’the green yesterday, as they were joined by the A’s, Pads, Royals, Dodgers, Bravos, Phillies, and the Mets (note the grapefruit on the side of the cap), as well as the Mariners, in a late starting game. Looks like the caps were adjustable, not fitteds.[/quote][/quote]

    I did get it, but including the quote is silly considering the rest of the ticker.

  • Dane | March 18, 2010 at 2:31 pm |

    I went into the Devils Den store last night before the game started at Prudential Center.

    Red & black replica jersey: $110
    Red & green replica jersey: $190.

  • Ricko | March 18, 2010 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”382221″][quote comment=”382161″][quote comment=”382154″]You show the mets wearing adjustable caps then mention the M’s doing so with the comment you don’t ever remember seeing that before.[/quote]
    1) For the separate Mariners ticker item, he was quoting Mitch Goodman, the guy who submitted it.
    2)Perhaps you didn’t notice this:[quote comment=”382132″]
    … But the Sawks weren’t alone in the sporting o’the green yesterday, as they were joined by the A’s, Pads, Royals, Dodgers, Bravos, Phillies, and the Mets (note the grapefruit on the side of the cap), as well as the Mariners, in a late starting game. Looks like the caps were adjustable, not fitteds.[/quote][/quote]

    I did get it, but including the quote is silly considering the rest of the ticker.[/quote]

    Darn right.
    C’mon, Phil, quit giving contributing UWers credit for being observant in their, um…observations.

  • JimV19 | March 18, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”382204″]Robert Morris on the March Madness uni update looks like they’re wearing Nike unis, bringing the total to 49.[/quote]

    Not Nike, but Crons:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    Figures – the one 15-seed I want to see pull an upset is doing it to my favorite team. Oh well, guess I can’t lose. RMU looks better in this matchup anyway.

  • LI Phil | March 18, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”382217″]tim tebow had an interesting “xv” design on his compression shirt at forida’s pro day. is that his logo? like lb23 or mv7?[/quote]

    know what would have been really clever…or really stupid

    III:XVI

    for a personal logo

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”382225″][quote comment=”382217″]tim tebow had an interesting “xv” design on his compression shirt at forida’s pro day. is that his logo? like lb23 or mv7?[/quote]

    know what would have been really clever…or really stupid

    III:XVI

    for a personal logo[/quote]
    It could turn out to be his draft position (round 3, pick 16).

  • Philip | March 18, 2010 at 3:05 pm |

    Oh. Lord. I can’t believe St. Louis is using that embarrassing “Chop Suey” font for their Asian Heritage Day. Why not just use a buck-toothed, “me so solly” caricature of Hirohito. Seriously.

  • concealed78 | March 18, 2010 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”382213″][quote comment=”382210″]On St. Patrick’s Day & in September’s Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day, the past few years the White Sox have been wearing adjustable caps. They used to wear fitted green caps but don’t bother with it anymore.[/quote]
    No, they actually do it “right” for the halfway promotion: green pins instead of solid-green tops, fitted caps, green socks.

    You might be thinking of the one game a few years ago when New Era (inadvertently, or so they claimed) shipped the caps with their logo on the side. But to the best of my knowledge, they’ve never gone with adjustables on halfway day.[/quote]

    Actually they have worn the adjustable on Halfway ’07:
    http://img714.images...

    But are the pinstripes really green? I know the replicas are, but this is a pretty dark green on the authentics:
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • JimWa | March 18, 2010 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”382227″]Oh. Lord. I can’t believe St. Louis is using that embarrassing “Chop Suey” font for their Asian Heritage Day. Why not just use a buck-toothed, “me so solly” caricature of Hirohito. Seriously.[/quote]

    Rumor has it they were originally considering doing the Irish logo in italics (to represent drunkeness), and the Hispanic one in spray paint.

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”382228″][quote comment=”382213″][quote comment=”382210″]On St. Patrick’s Day & in September’s Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day, the past few years the White Sox have been wearing adjustable caps. They used to wear fitted green caps but don’t bother with it anymore.[/quote]
    No, they actually do it “right” for the halfway promotion: green pins instead of solid-green tops, fitted caps, green socks.

    You might be thinking of the one game a few years ago when New Era (inadvertently, or so they claimed) shipped the caps with their logo on the side. But to the best of my knowledge, they’ve never gone with adjustables on halfway day.[/quote]

    Actually they have worn the adjustable on Halfway ’07:
    http://img714.images...

    But are the pinstripes really green? I know the replicas are, but this is a pretty dark green on the authentics:
    http://www.flickr.co...
    That was the New Era screw-up I was referring to. I should’ve worded it better by saying something like “…they’ve never chosen to go with adjustables…” And yes, the pinstripes are green.

  • JimWa | March 18, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”382229″][quote comment=”382227″]Oh. Lord. I can’t believe St. Louis is using that embarrassing “Chop Suey” font for their Asian Heritage Day. Why not just use a buck-toothed, “me so solly” caricature of Hirohito. Seriously.[/quote]

    Rumor has it they were originally considering doing the Irish logo in italics (to represent drunkeness), and the Hispanic one in spray paint.[/quote]

    OK … and now with more thought on the matter … Five of the six games celebrate heritage from other countries, but why not the sixth?

  • JimV XIX | March 18, 2010 at 3:32 pm |

    How soon before we call it Wrigley Field at Toyota Park?
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • JimWa | March 18, 2010 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”382232″]How soon before we call it Wrigley Field at Toyota Park?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    (reprinting my comment I placed on the Trib’s website)

    A couple things here … the “Citgo” sign at Fenway: iconic or obtrusive? The old Torco sign: iconic or obtrusive? Those opposed to this sign are bothered because it does what? Block the view of another advertisement? Others are stating they need to get rid of the gambling ad and return the space to the brewer. I don’t think it’s because gambling is bad and beer is good – I suppose it’s resistance to change, not resistance to what the new item stands for.

    Last time I was at Wrigley, the only fans on the rooftops were standing on the flat roofs, holding a beer in one hand, and grilling dogs and brats in the other. If you’re offended by the greed that’s bringing this sign to our ballpark, you should have been fighting those rooftop seats from day one. Those seats are MUCH more of an eyesore to the neighborhood than one 320 sf sign will be. Especially during day games, when the sign probably won’t be noticed.

    When I first heard about the new sign, I was offended. Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s just one very tiny step in the constant evolution of the park I love. It is what it is, and nothing more.

  • JimV19 | March 18, 2010 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”382233″][quote comment=”382232″]How soon before we call it Wrigley Field at Toyota Park?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    (reprinting my comment I placed on the Trib’s website)

    A couple things here … the “Citgo” sign at Fenway: iconic or obtrusive? The old Torco sign: iconic or obtrusive? Those opposed to this sign are bothered because it does what? Block the view of another advertisement? Others are stating they need to get rid of the gambling ad and return the space to the brewer. I don’t think it’s because gambling is bad and beer is good – I suppose it’s resistance to change, not resistance to what the new item stands for.

    Last time I was at Wrigley, the only fans on the rooftops were standing on the flat roofs, holding a beer in one hand, and grilling dogs and brats in the other. If you’re offended by the greed that’s bringing this sign to our ballpark, you should have been fighting those rooftop seats from day one. Those seats are MUCH more of an eyesore to the neighborhood than one 320 sf sign will be. Especially during day games, when the sign probably won’t be noticed.

    When I first heard about the new sign, I was offended. Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s just one very tiny step in the constant evolution of the park I love. It is what it is, and nothing more.[/quote]

    As it stands now, I don’t have a problem with it. Not that I was around then, but I would’ve been much more offended at the giant Chesterfield sign at the Polo Grounds:
    http://www.baseballf...

    As long as they don’t change the name of the ballpark, or carve the Toyota logo into the ivy, then I’m fine.

  • JTH | March 18, 2010 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”382234″][quote comment=”382233″][quote comment=”382232″]How soon before we call it Wrigley Field at Toyota Park?
    http://sports.espn.g...

    (reprinting my comment I placed on the Trib’s website)

    A couple things here … the “Citgo” sign at Fenway: iconic or obtrusive? The old Torco sign: iconic or obtrusive? Those opposed to this sign are bothered because it does what? Block the view of another advertisement? Others are stating they need to get rid of the gambling ad and return the space to the brewer. I don’t think it’s because gambling is bad and beer is good – I suppose it’s resistance to change, not resistance to what the new item stands for.

    Last time I was at Wrigley, the only fans on the rooftops were standing on the flat roofs, holding a beer in one hand, and grilling dogs and brats in the other. If you’re offended by the greed that’s bringing this sign to our ballpark, you should have been fighting those rooftop seats from day one. Those seats are MUCH more of an eyesore to the neighborhood than one 320 sf sign will be. Especially during day games, when the sign probably won’t be noticed.

    When I first heard about the new sign, I was offended. Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s just one very tiny step in the constant evolution of the park I love. It is what it is, and nothing more.[/quote]

    As it stands now, I don’t have a problem with it. Not that I was around then, but I would’ve been much more offended at the giant Chesterfield sign at the Polo Grounds:
    http://www.baseballf...

    As long as they don’t change the name of the ballpark, or carve the Toyota logo into the ivy, then I’m fine.[/quote]
    Frankly, I’ve been saying for years that I’d like to see them put a video screen right in that spot. They’ve already got the permanent Bud Light and Under Armour ads in the bleachers/on the outfield wall, so the “purity” argument is pretty much out the window.

    As for the name, they should make Mars, Inc. pay for the rights. If they won’t pony up the dough, change it back to Cubs Park (or go all the way back to Weeghman Park).

    If they do play along, they could use the marquee design on their labels. Y’know, instead of “Wrigley Field Home of Chicago Cubs” it could say “Wrigley’s Doublemint Chewing Gum” or whatever.

  • Christopher | March 18, 2010 at 4:12 pm |

    RE: Why St. Patrick’s day?

    Its one of the biggest holidays in America. Plain and simple. Everyone celebrates it at least a little bit (wearing a green tie, having a pint of Guinness). You can’t say that about most holidays.

    And nearly every other big holiday (sans July 4th) happens in the off-season.

    I never seemed strange to me. Of course, I’m Irish and a White Sox fan, so its been part of our uni-culture for a long time.

  • JD | March 18, 2010 at 4:15 pm |

    I had a dream last night that Jack Nicholson passed away and the Lakers wore a memorial patch. Has the passing of a fan ever been commemorated on a uniform?

  • concealed78 | March 18, 2010 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”382185″][quote comment=”382178″]Well then, I guess that teams should stop throwback games. I mean, it is only one-time promotion.[/quote]

    just a thought… maybe the manufacturers see it as most people would wear the st. pats version of their team’s cap only on st. patrick’s day whereas they’d wear a throwback version throughout the year making the st. pats version more of a novelty purchase and hence more affordable. unless you’re irish, could you see yourself wearing a st. patrick’s day version of your teams cap on august 21st? i’d feel like a tool, but that’s just me.[/quote]

    I’m not Irish but would wear it, but I prefer kelly green over black (White Sox) caps anyway.

  • Lincoln | March 18, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    Mariners pitcher Ryan Rowland-Smith’s glove has his name in Japanese. Guessing since his glove is a Zett model, he has some endorsement deal in Japan? Sorry, on TV, can’t get pics.

  • Christopher | March 18, 2010 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”382238″][quote comment=”382185″][quote comment=”382178″]Well then, I guess that teams should stop throwback games. I mean, it is only one-time promotion.[/quote]

    just a thought… maybe the manufacturers see it as most people would wear the st. pats version of their team’s cap only on st. patrick’s day whereas they’d wear a throwback version throughout the year making the st. pats version more of a novelty purchase and hence more affordable. unless you’re irish, could you see yourself wearing a st. patrick’s day version of your teams cap on august 21st? i’d feel like a tool, but that’s just me.[/quote]

    I’m not Irish but would wear it, but I prefer kelly green over black (White Sox) caps anyway.[/quote]

    Go to US Cellular, many people wear the green version all year round. I own one and don’t own a black version.

    They’ve been tremendously popular.

  • Terry D. | March 18, 2010 at 5:16 pm |

    Maybe Jim Burt was wearing a practice jersey

  • Tony | March 18, 2010 at 7:21 pm |

    Here is a pic of the Kalamazoo Wings green ice.

    http://media.mlive.c...

    They are also wearing special green jerseys.

    They team has been dying the ice for quite a while. They also do pink ice for V-tines day, and a “golden” color for their Ronald McDonald house charity night.

  • interlockingtc | March 18, 2010 at 8:07 pm |

    The Topps NBA ruler inserts are to good to be true.

  • interlockingtc | March 18, 2010 at 8:08 pm |

    er…TOO

  • Shaun | March 18, 2010 at 8:25 pm |

    this may be a first…. gwinnett gladiators ECHL hockey for the thrashers’ homepage has tom glavine photoshopped into what is supposed to be a gladiators baseball uniform, under the headlne “Gladiators sign Glavine” http://www.gwinnettg...

    click and see its a autograph session, and the pic they photoshopped

  • Tony Miller | March 18, 2010 at 9:13 pm |

    From the top of the scorer’s table in OKC:
    “PLEASE DO NOT SIT”

    Is there anything left that the NCAA isn’t micromanaging?

  • LI Phil | March 18, 2010 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”382246″]Is there anything left that the NCAA isn’t micromanaging?[/quote]

    georgetown’s defense?

  • mmwatkin | March 18, 2010 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”382242″]Here is a pic of the Kalamazoo Wings green ice.

    http://media.mlive.c...

    They are also wearing special green jerseys.

    They team has been dying the ice for quite a while. They also do pink ice for V-tines day, and a “golden” color for their Ronald McDonald house charity night.[/quote]

    I am interested to see what a “golden” rink would look like…

  • Tony Miller | March 18, 2010 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”382247″][quote comment=”382246″]Is there anything left that the NCAA isn’t micromanaging?[/quote]

    georgetown’s defense?[/quote]

    I meant things that actually exist.

  • jesse | March 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm |

    Re: the St. Patrick’s Day unis, the BoSox broke them out during the regular seson when Red Auerbach passed away, and they were wearing fitted hats.

  • jesse | March 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm |

    Oops, season,my bad.

  • traxel | March 18, 2010 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”382248″][quote comment=”382242″]Here is a pic of the Kalamazoo Wings green ice.

    http://media.mlive.c...

    They are also wearing special green jerseys.

    They team has been dying the ice for quite a while. They also do pink ice for V-tines day, and a “golden” color for their Ronald McDonald house charity night.[/quote]

    I am interested to see what a “golden” rink would look like…[/quote]
    don’t eat the yellow snow….

  • LI Phil | March 18, 2010 at 11:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”382252″]don’t eat the yellow snow….[/quote]

    don’t be a naughty eskimo mr. zappa traxel

  • traxel | March 19, 2010 at 8:13 am |

    [quote comment=”382253″][quote comment=”382252″]don’t eat the yellow snow….[/quote]

    don’t be a naughty eskimo mr. zappa traxel[/quote]
    from right there where the huskies go.

  • LOGOCreep | March 19, 2010 at 3:31 pm |

    Why, a sign in the park for 2010 Toyota Recall. Seriously, they put the “liability” in “reliability.”

    Only the Cubs would align with a foreign auto company on a losing streak that would even make the Cubbies envious. I mean really?

  • LOGOCreep | March 19, 2010 at 3:56 pm |

    A couple things here … the “Citgo” sign at Fenway: iconic or obtrusive? The old Torco sign: iconic or obtrusive? Those opposed to this sign are bothered because it does what? Block the view of another advertisement? Others are stating they need to get rid of the gambling ad and return the space to the brewer. I don’t think it’s because gambling is bad and beer is good – I suppose it’s resistance to change, not resistance to what the new item stands for.

    Last time I was at Wrigley, the only fans on the rooftops were standing on the flat roofs, holding a beer in one hand, and grilling dogs and brats in the other. If you’re offended by the greed that’s bringing this sign to our ballpark, you should have been fighting those rooftop seats from day one. Those seats are MUCH more of an eyesore to the neighborhood than one 320 sf sign will be. Especially during day games, when the sign probably won’t be noticed.

    When I first heard about the new sign, I was offended. Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s just one very tiny step in the constant evolution of the park I love. It is what it is, and nothing more.

    This is not a simple impression on an OF door but rather an enormous cut out of a trouble Japanese auto maker… it’s the new Cubs greed kicking in here. Maybe next the Cubs will be selling Toyota’s on Waveland Ave.?

    The legacy of Crane Kenney is a mockery. Watching McDonough transforms the Blackhawks from marketing rejects to marketing wizards proves where the brains were in that organization.

    Don’t embrace. Reject.