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There’s No Service Like Wire Service, Vol.4

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That was a pretty uni-uneventful Stupor Bowl (unless you count Pete Townshend’s pale white underbelly repeatedly peeking through his shirt, which I definitely could have done without), so let’s bid adieu to the NFL season and turn our attention to another round of wire service photos. Our last batch featured images of historical significance; this time around we’ll be looking at photos that are simply interesting.

• I really ought to know this (esp. since I have the nagging feeling we’ve covered it before), but what’s that patch on Willie’s jacket?

• Love this Hebrew sign that went up during the Twins’ 1965 stretch drive.

• If you think the Gazoo helmets look weird, check out this Giants batboy working at Wrigley Field, circa 1970. Note the inconsistent use of Dymo Tape labeling.

• And if a batboy can wear stacked helmets, why not a first base coach?

• Here are the Mexican Little League champions from 1968. Interesting to see that a Little League team had piping on its belt tunnels.

• Here’s an awesome shot of the Tiger Stadium grounds crew installing new sod in 1970. And here’s a similar shot from ’72.

• Here’s another Tiger Stadium groundskeeping shot, this time from 1958. There’s something really perfect about the composition of this one — the juxtaposition of the old guy next to the young player. According to the caption, he’s dying the grass, not watering it. Also, note that high rate of belt-loopage on the Tigers’ pants, a style that the team still uses today.

• Look at all those striped stirrups hanging in the St. Looey clubhouse — tasty.

• Speaking of striped hose, look at those Sabres socks!

• Always good to see John Riggins in his mohawk phase.

• Who’s that on the lanes? It’s golfing great Sam Snead. Looks like they didn’t enforce the “You must wear bowling shoes” rule on him.

• Here’s Jacques Plante as a Ranger. Interesting to see that the sleeve number was applied over the yoke seam, which seems a bit counterintuitive to me.

• You rarely see good photos of this Pirates uniform, circa 1941. (Here’s how it looked in color — anyone wanna try colorizing the photo?)

• I’m not sure which is better: Al Kaline’s kid in a child-sized uni (with vertically arched NOB lettering!) or Paul Foytack’s kid in a full-sized uni.

• According to the guy who was selling this photo, that’s a minor league team, not the NHL Habs. Interesting to see the “CH” logo as a sleeve patch, though. Love the cardigan on the guy at top-right, too.

• Here’s one of Charlie Samuels’s predecessors. Interesting to see that they painted the helmets with a brush instead of a spray can. Judging from the way all the helmets are sitting flat, it appears that they’re all flapless.

• In the words of Jim Vilk, I’d wear that.

• Can’t decide if this shot of Connie Mack with a batboy is sweet or creepy.

• To understand the significance of this 1954 photo, you need to see the caption. Hadn’t heard that story before.

• Lots going on in this 1940s Red Wings shot. The “V,” obviously, is for victory, to support the Allied war effort. Underneath it is the Morse code for V — dot-dot-dot-dash. But what’s that patch on the other sleeve? Anyone know? Also note that the V — but not the other patch — is visible in this shot. Not sure if these two photos are from the same season, but there’s enough info in the two captions to figure it out. I haven’t had time to do that myself, but maybe someone else would like to tackle that? (It’s worth noting, incidentally, that NHLuniforms.com doesn’t list any sleeve adornments for the Wings during this period — another reminder that we shouldn’t take online databases as gospel.)

That’s it for today. I’ll have another batch of wire service pics within the next week or so.

Giveaway results: The winner of the Jaguars jersey box is Scott Callahan. As for all the rest of you, we’ll have another raffle on tap tomorrow.

Hawkeyes contest results: We received over 50 entries for the Cooperstown Hawkeyes logo contest, and team owner Tom Hickey has chosen the winner, which was designed by Kevin Bennett. “I was really impressed by every single one of the submissions,” says Tom. “It was a very difficult choice.”

We can’t show you Kevin’s design yet, because there’s some legal paperwork that has to be dealt with first, but I’ll soon be posting all the non-winning entries in a Flickr gallery. If you submitted a design and don’t want it shown in that gallery, let me know asap. Thanks.

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Culinary Corner: If you’re human, you like bacon. If you’re not a wuss, you make your own bacon at home instead of just ordering it when you go out for breakfast. And if you’re smart, you save the rendered bacon fat to use in other cooking projects.

But here’s something you may not have thought of: Use the bacon fat to pop popcorn. Simple. Delicious. You can thank me later.

Uni Watch News Ticker: On Friday I linked to this awesome Penguins patch, which prompted the following note from Dan Anderson: “I used a similar patch to make a DIY North Stars sweatshirt. The NHL must have released a series of these patches at some point.” Indeed, someone in Friday’s comments section turned up a Sabres version. We definitely need to see the entire set of these. Hey, Jon Helf, should the Fleer Sticker Project be all over this one? ”¦ Hmmm, the Hackensack Water Company’s logo looks a lot like a certain NHL mark, no? (Good sot by Trevor Kruger.) ”¦ New goalie gear for Sebastien Giguere (with thanks to John Muir). ”¦ Nick Wojciechowski‘s brother-in-law works for a company that makes knit caps based on NCAA football helmet designs. ”¦ I’m pretty sure we’ve covered this before, but note the inconsistent Bills pants striping in Super Bowl XXVII (with thanks to Sean Kautzman). ”¦ Mark Bolding saw this 1964 AFL All-Star Game program on eBay and thought he spotted something important in these photos from the front and back cover. Note how the Chiefs’ helmets have more of an arrow than an arrowhead — never seen that shape on a Chiefs helmet before. But as I then pointed out to Mark, the pics appeared on the 1964 all-star game program cover, which means they’re from the previous year’s all-star game, which was played in Jaunary of ’63. Lamar Hunt didn’t announce that he was moving the Texans to KC until May of ’63, so those players would still have been wearing Texans helmets in the ’63 all-star game. They must have touched up the photos because they didn’t want a defunct logo appearing in the ’64 program. Odd that they didn’t just find photos that didn’t show any Texans players. ”¦ See the “Quicken Loans Arena” logo on the Cavs’ court? Jimmy Dembski says the logo is sometimes situated in another spot on the floor for certain games. Vince is my go-to guy for Cleveland questions, so I asked him, and he asked one of his Cavs contacts, who told him this: “For nationally televised games we are required (by the league) to change the in-floor, under-scoreboard, basketball goal pads, scorer’s table, and baseline signage.” ”¦ New uniforms for the San Jose Giants (with thanks to Zachary Charles). ”¦ A Texas Rangers fan has broken down the team’s uni number history. “One observation he made is that #21 hasn’t been worn by the same player two years in a row since 2000,” writes Greg Stamps. “In fact 13 different players wore 21 from 2001 to 2009.” ”¦ In a rare rebuke to the Swooshkateers, Michigan State has decided not to revise its primary logo after all. Additional details here. ”¦ Michael Kinney was Senior Skills Challenge and noticed that the Nike and Adidas logo creep was consistently covered up by the event patch. Interesting. ”¦ Trevor Williams found an old Sports Illustrated article about uniform laundering and another about football helmet logos. ”¦ Scranton-Wilkes Barre Penguins did the camo thing on Friday night (with thanks to Chad Sitler). ”¦ The Brooklyn Cyclones are doing a bunch of Thursday jersey giveaways this season. Further details here (with thanks to Terence Kearns). ”¦ New uniforms for the Kia Tigers (as noted by Dan Kurtz). ”¦ Korean soccer news from Jeremy Brahm, who reports that there are new uniforms for FC Seoul and the Suwon Bluewings. ”¦ And in Japanese soccer news, Jeremy also sent along the new uniforms for Shonan Bellmare. ”¦ Moving over to Japanese baseball, Jeremy reports that the Rakuten Golden Eagles have new road uniforms. ”¦ Still more from Jeremy: Bit of a controversy over the Aussie Olympic team’s banner in Vancouver. ”¦ Nice little batch of old MLB patches available here. ”¦ My latest vintage uniform catalog acquisition is this groovy 1940s Goldsmith catalog poster. I took close-up photos of the various sections, logos, and illustrations, which you can see here. ”¦ Here’s what the medal platforms and medal-bearers’ uniforms will look like in Vancouver (Jeremy Brahm yet again). ”¦ Oooh, check out this old satin baseball uni. ”¦ Hakim Warrick has quite a look going with those socks. ”¦ Saturday night was the first Thrashers home game since Ilya Kovalchuk was traded, in case you couldn’t guess (as spotted by Jonathan Trapp). ”¦ The Jeremy hits keep on coming: New green uniforms for the SK Wyverns and the Chinese national baseball team. Look at the dragon-shaped C! And yes, that’s Brian Cashman on the left — that’s because the Yanks are taking the Commissioner’s Trophy on a tour of Asia. ”¦ Darth Brooks (a pseudonym, I assume) designed a bunch of NFL fields for an online game he participates in. “It’s called Goal Line Blitz,” he says. “It’s a MMORPG based on football. They show the football games being played, and if you use Greasemonkey you can replace the fields with ones you make.” ”¦ An Expos cap might not be Andre Dawson’s cup of tea, but apparently it’s a big hit with the ladies. ”¦ Mild hilarity in Sweden, as a hockey player forgot to remove his skate guards before hitting the ice (big thanks to Chad Todd). ”¦ President Obama hosted a Super Bowl party yesterday, and Riddell made him a helmet for the occasion. There’s a very short video about the helmet’s manufacturing here (with thanks to Joe Nguyen). ”¦ Matthew Hackethal picked up some football cards that show today’s players in yesteryear’s uniforms. ”¦ Matthew also picked up a 1973-74 New York Rangers program with some interesting ads, including one featuring Willis Reed wearing his jersey backwards (the advertiser didn’t have licensing deal with the NBA) and one featuring, well, lots of odd stuff, but note that the goalie appears to be wearing a football helmet. ”¦ The Hornets’ the Mardi Gras alternates are every bit as awesome on the court as I’d hoped (yes, even with the two-tone action and all that purple). ”¦ Chris Heintzelman is the latest reader to create his own team jacket by starting with a blank coat and having a bunch of patches sewn onto it. ”¦ Some web site is conducting a poll/bracket to choose the best college football uni (with thanks to Spencer Seaner). ”¦ Very late-breaking notes from the Senior Bowl: Rashawn Jackson had four Virginia decals on his helmet, and there were some major sock inconsistencies (screen shots courtesy of Patrick Karraker). ”¦ Blondie — the one who’s married to Dagwood — was wearing genuie NFL-style zebra stripes in yesterday’s strip (as noted by David Teigland). ”¦ Totally digging this old Shorpy photo, esp. the pinned-on numbers (big thanks to Larry Bodnovich). ”¦ Great shot of Gary Simmons’s old snake-plastered goalie mask in this 1977 Kings/Canadiens clip. ”¦ Chris LaHaye was attending a game at Plaquemine High School in Louisiana the other night when he spotted these awesome comics-style illustrations on the wall. “Their boys’ basketball coach told me they were done by Phil Neel of Birmingham, Alabama,” he says. … Okay, okay, you want Super Bowl coverage? There were interesting uni notes from two of the ads: The Flo-TV spot (the one where the guy has gotten a “spine-ectomy”) showed two different views of USFL footage (“That’s a Michigan Panthers home game from 1984, against either the Houston Gamblers or the Pittsburgh Maulers,” says Doug Brei), and the first of the three Denny’s ads included this scene. See those helmets on the wall at far left? David Shucosky I.D.’d them as being from the WLAF — the Orlando Thunder and Montreal Machine, specifically. … I watched the game at a Manhattan party hosted by No Mas. Reader Giancarlo joined me, and at one point he mentioned that he’d recently noticed something interesting while watching YouTube highlights of the 1953 NFL Championship Game between the Lions and Browns: “On kickoffs, the receiving team always had one player who ran straight ahead toward the placekicker and tried to take him out of the play.” After we both got home, he sent me the video link, and sure enough — see for yourself here, here, and here. Of course, in those days the kicker usually doubled as a position player, not a scrawny little fella like today’s kickers, and was therefore a genuine threat to tackle the returner, so I guess that blocking strategy made sense. ”¦ Uh, right.

 
  
 
Comments (221)

    Paul,

    dot-dot-dot-dash is Morse code for V and was used in World War II as a signal from resistance fighters, particularly in France, that they were there and still active. Great Red Wings photo there!

    from the main article:

    – Here’s one of Charlie Samuels’s predecessors. Interesting to see that they painted the helmets with a brush instead of a spray can. Judging from the way all the helmets are sitting flat, it appears that they’re all flapless.

    i think he’s applying a coat of lacquer, rather than paint

    great shot!

    [quote]
    Very late-breaking notes from the Senior Bowl: Rashawn Jackson had four Virginia decals on his helmet, and there were some major sock inconsistencies[/quote]

    Tony Pike, of Cincinnati (with black helmet)

    link

    while Mardy Gilyard

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    Can anyone think of a Superbowl quarterback who’s NFL team helmet is nearly identical (except for logo)to their college helmet,as Drew Brees’s?Purdue/Saints exact match.

    Maybe only relevant to those in their market (PA, OH, MD, WV I think) but didn’t anyone else think the SB logo stickers on the backs of the helmets last night looked like paid stickers from Giant Eagle?

    That company that makes the knit hats based on college football helmets are pretty cool. I have two of them I have USC and my son has a Florida one. The front and back bumpers on the hat are made from rubber. The Florida one is a better then the USC one since Florida has center stripes on their helmet.

    RE Hebrew sign. It was in front of a synagogue in St. Paul rooting on the Twins in 1965, a World Series they lost … to the Dodgers, who won on a 3-hit shutout in Game 7 pitched by … Sandy Koufax, who had missed Game 1 due to Yom Kippur. You wonder if the congregants at Temple of Aaron had some mixed feelings over the whole thing.

    Paul, if you like pinned-on numbers (like in that 1920s football photo from Shorpy), you need to come to Japan to watch amateur baseball. In high school baseball, it’s standard, and the numbers are always on a white background, always in the same black font, even if link. For some reason, the #1 is always very thick, and the “1” characters in #10, #11, #12… are normal. No idea why this is.

    In one league I’m in, the manager is *required* to wear #30, so we had to have a white pinstriped rectangle made up with #30 on it, to pin on top of his regular #5, just for those games.

    I must confess to liking how that rectangle is set aide from the rest of the jersey. Some NFL or college team ought to do throwbacks with that design.

    [quote comment=”376736″]Maybe only relevant to those in their market (PA, OH, MD, WV I think) but didn’t anyone else think the SB logo stickers on the backs of the helmets last night looked like paid stickers from Giant Eagle?[/quote]

    Doug, you’re a dork. And yes, you’re right.

    More importantly, is it just me, or is there NO character whatsoever to goalie pads anymore? They’re all just white with slashes on them. Why even post those pics of Giguere’s new equipment?

    In that old Shorpy picture, it looks like one of the defenders on the far right is either wearing some sort of scarf wrapped around his face, of one of those really early face mask. Its a great photo, my new desktop background. (Sorry if this double post).

    Any similarity between those Sabres socks and the ones worn by the Toronto Maple Leafs prior to 1970 (and again since 1992) is, of course strictly coincidental. You don’t suppose Punch Imlach, whom the Leafs fired as GM in 1969 and who got the GM job in Buffalo a year later, had something to do with the uniform design?

    The Sabres photo (Wayne Maki of the Canucks “pinning” Richard Martin to the boards) strikes a chord, considering the present-day concern about blows to the head — especially when delivered with an elbow!

    I’m sure I’m WAAAAAY late mentioning this, but notice on Man vs. Food Adam Richman wearing an “I’m Calling it Joe Robbie” shirt during his live episode. 2 worlds collide!

    [quote comment=”376742″][quote comment=”376736″]Maybe only relevant to those in their market (PA, OH, MD, WV I think) but didn’t anyone else think the SB logo stickers on the backs of the helmets last night looked like paid stickers from Giant Eagle?[/quote]

    Doug, you’re a dork. And yes, you’re right.

    More importantly, is it just me, or is there NO character whatsoever to goalie pads anymore? They’re all just white with slashes on them. Why even post those pics of Giguere’s new equipment?[/quote]

    I have to agree that those pads are pretty bland, but you still get some creative designs. My brother got some new pads last year and when you put them together, they made a giant paw (his team was the Timberwolves).

    Giguere’s had lots of “meh” pads.

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    link (That’s a 12-year-old Giguere)

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    I’m sure this has already been discussed before, but it’s interesting to note the Buffalo Bills players in the Super Bowl photo sporting jerseys by different manufacturers (Apex on Jim Kelly, Champion on the lineman). I’ve noticed this several times when watching games from the Bills’ Super Bowl era (The Comeback Game, etc.), but never really saw a photo or screenshot before.

    in the center of the shorpy photo, there’s a guy on the ground with his feet in the air and it looks like his cleats are rubber or something similar in composition. call me ignorant, but i’d always thought all spikes were metal until relatively recently. anyone?

    At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko

    Great wire photos of the Tiger Stadium ground crew installing new sod.

    If you notice in the one photo “from ’72”. You will see the auxilliary scoreboard on the first base side upperdeck facing. On that scoreboard you can see, just to the left of the teams city name the possession indicaters. They are shaped like footballs.

    Obviously those indicaters were there for Lions games. The Lions left Tiger Stadium in the 1970’s. But those possession indicators remained on the 2 auxilliary scoreboards (another on the third base side upperdeck facing). They were a constant reminder that the Lions once played there.

    Yes, as I mentioned over the weekend, there was a complete set of those cartoon NHL patches and if memory serves me correct, each one came in two different sizes! I found my California Golden Seals one, I’ll try to post it tonight or email it to Paul. And the Atlanta Flames one had a player wearing a fireman’s helmet!

    -Jet

    [quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?

    [quote comment=”376739″]RE Hebrew sign. It was in front of a synagogue in St. Paul rooting on the Twins in 1965, a World Series they lost … to the Dodgers, who won on a 3-hit shutout in Game 7 pitched by … Sandy Koufax, who had missed Game 1 due to Yom Kippur. You wonder if the congregants at Temple of Aaron had some mixed feelings over the whole thing.[/quote]
    I sure hope Calvin Griffith had a higher opinion of Jews than he did of African-Americans.

    Those Buffalo Sabres socks are indeed sweet with the multiple stripes, and also note in that pic the “V” on the sleeves of the Vancouver Canucks road jersey – I’m pretty sure that V was only on their first-year design and it was dropped the following year…

    -Jet

    The batboy with Connie Mack kinda looks like he could be related to him – his grandson perhaps? Maybe not so creepy if that’s the case…

    -Jet

    [quote comment=”376751″]is it bad that i had to google “Hakim Warrick” because i couldn’t quite figure out from the picture what team he played for?[/quote]

    Well, there’s a bit of clue in that Bucks are only current NBA team that wears, or has worn, forest and red.
    And these…
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    I don’t believe are socks over his knees. Look more like some kind of elastic knee-sleeve dealies. I wore something similar when shorts and knee high socks came into vogue for softball in the late ’70s and into the ’80s…to minimize the damage when sliding.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376742″][quote

    More importantly, is it just me, or is there NO character whatsoever to goalie pads anymore? They’re all just white with slashes on them. Why even post those pics of Giguere’s new equipment?[/quote]

    The only way goalie pads could ever have character in my book is if they’re old-school brown leather – and that goes for the blocker and catching glove as well. Anything else is an eyesore in my book….

    -Jet

    everytime i see Hakim Warrick’s name, I’m reminded of the “Boom Goes the Dynamite” clip where the guy refers to him as “hock ’em” warrick.

    along with Andrew BO-GOT

    [quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    As I look out at snow whipping horizontally past my office window, and know that it means someone very soon will be playing baseball somewhere on green diamonds under a blue sky…yes, it’s a good thing.

    As always, it assures us that Spring eventually does return.
    We just have to be a little patient.

    —Ricko

    Ricko’s MLB.com post got me to look @ the site…when I went to the Mets, their slogan for ticket sales is “We believe in Comebacks”…are they really getting that much backlash?

    At the risk of upsetting Paul, the readership and being called a member of the fascist PC Police, if one of US had posted the last ticker item (photo of a certain Saints defensive back next to a pair of Colts teammates embracing), we’d have been sufficiently rebuked for use of sophomoric humor and asked to knock it off.

    I know Paul . . “My site, my rules”.

    [quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    Only problem I have with it is that it’s a countdown to pitchers and catchers, not to Opening Day!

    [quote comment=”376763″][quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    As I look out at snow whipping horizontally past my office window, and know that it means someone very soon will be playing baseball somewhere on green diamonds under a blue sky…yes, it’s a good thing.

    As always, it assures us that Spring eventually does return.
    We just have to be a little patient.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Yeah, you can keep your first crocuses, you can keep your Capistrano swallows. The true symbols of winter’s end are the Grapefruit and Cactus Leagues.

    [quote comment=”376766″][quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    Only problem I have with it is that it’s a countdown to pitchers and catchers, not to Opening Day![/quote]
    Patience, grasshopper. Once Spring Training starts, then it’s time for the Opening Day clock.

    [quote comment=”376768″][quote comment=”376766″][quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    Only problem I have with it is that it’s a countdown to pitchers and catchers, not to Opening Day![/quote]
    Patience, grasshopper. Once Spring Training starts, then it’s time for the Opening Day clock.[/quote]

    And it all works in harmony as a measure of how much time is left until football starts. ;-)

    [quote comment=”376768″][quote comment=”376766″][quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    Only problem I have with it is that it’s a countdown to pitchers and catchers, not to Opening Day![/quote]
    Patience, grasshopper. Once Spring Training starts, then it’s time for the Opening Day clock.[/quote]

    Thomas Boswell summed up the difference between baseball and football for me very succintly:

    “#64 – Baseball means Spring’s Here. Football means Winter’s Coming.”

    Hey, a bunch of the rest of those NHL cartoon patches are also on Ebay!! After I clicked the link to the Penguins one, Ebay posted a “recommended for you” section at the top of the page with links to other similar patches!! I’ll start linking to them:

    LA Kings – WOW!!! link
    absolutely gorgeous…

    Flyers – WOW again! link

    Redwings – feast your eyes! link

    Islanders- features a goalie link

    Leafs – I remember all of these! link

    Blues – another goalie one, very clever! And no mask on this goalie! link

    Northstars>\b> – here’s the one Dan Anderson used:
    link

    Sabres – wrong colors!! link

    Canucks – logo on toque hat! link

    Bruins – you know you want this one! link

    Flames – whoa… I distinctly remember this one with a guy with a fire helmet – this looks like its supposed to be Gen. Robert E. Lee! (first southern NHL team). Could there be two versions out there??? link

    And finally here’s the Seals one I have, although this like all the other patches, says its 4.25 inches. The one I have at home is bigger, so I guess there was indeed two sizes as I said
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    Still a few teams unaccounted for – Chicago, Montreal, Rangers… I’ll keep an eye out for them.

    WOO HOO!!

    -Jet

    sorry for all the bolding in the above post, I only put bold tags around the team names so I don’t know how all the copy wound up being bolded…

    -Jet

    [quote comment=”376770″][quote comment=”376768″][quote comment=”376766″][quote comment=”376755″][quote comment=”376750″]At mlb.com they have countdown clock in upper left corner.

    At the moment, it’s telling us that Pitchers and Catchers report in 9 days, 3 hours (and change).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So.. is that a good thing?[/quote]

    Only problem I have with it is that it’s a countdown to pitchers and catchers, not to Opening Day![/quote]
    Patience, grasshopper. Once Spring Training starts, then it’s time for the Opening Day clock.[/quote]

    Thomas Boswell summed up the difference between baseball and football for me very succintly:

    “#64 – Baseball means Spring’s Here. Football means Winter’s Coming.”[/quote]

    #64 – Baseball means Sunburns are Here. Football means Cool Weather’s Coming.

    (Phoenix Version)

    /fun

    As effective as Gregg Williams’ game plan may have been, I think a real turning point was his inspirational message during the halftime break:
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    [quote comment=”376765″]At the risk of upsetting Paul, the readership and being called a member of the fascist PC Police, if one of US had posted the last ticker item (photo of a certain Saints defensive back next to a pair of Colts teammates embracing), we’d have been sufficiently rebuked for use of sophomoric humor and asked to knock it off.

    I know Paul . . “My site, my rules”.[/quote]

    Waaah? I thought he was just singling out the only player in the game with a 3 letter NOB.

    “In the words of Jim Vilk, I’d wear that.”
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    Hope you don’t mean the hairstyle…

    Yeah, that jacket’s nice. I’d wear that, too.

    [quote comment=”376731″]Paul,

    dot-dot-dot-dash is Morse code for V and was used in World War II as a signal from resistance fighters, particularly in France, that they were there and still active. Great Red Wings photo there![/quote]

    I think Paul was wondering about the patch worn on the other sleeve. My guess – but a wobbly guess – is that it depicts an archery target with numerous arrows hitting the bullseye. Anybody else?

    Highly recommend a look at the link on Vancouver medal-awards podium provided by the indefatigable, inimitable Jeremy Brahm.

    I love that Connie Mack look, not to mention his fabulous forename. No sexual innuendos, please: we’re related.

    [quote comment=”376777″][quote comment=”376776″]”In the words of Jim Vilk, I’d wear that.”
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    Hope you don’t mean the hairstyle…[/quote]

    people who link…[/quote]

    Knew that shot would come back to get me someday…

    At least I was consistent. Hockey guy needs to commit – you goin’ straight or curly?

    I love how in the ’53 NFL Championship Game the scoreboard reads “Lions” and “Visitors” with Detroit giving Cleveland no respect at all.

    Connie Mack WAS a creepy dude…. in a Nosfratu-ish sorta way. I certainly hope that bat boy was his grandson and not a ‘nephew’.

    The save bacon fat to use for popping corn is shear genius, Mr. Lukas. Genius on a Dr. Evil level.

    [quote comment=”376779″]And I’d definitely wear this!
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    As soon as I saw that, I wanted it…I’m just wondering if it looks as good on an actual head.

    [quote comment=”376781″][quote comment=”376779″]And I’d definitely wear this!
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    cool touques! i just wish the ASU logo was bigger!

    link

    Wait.. what? What’s your draw to ASU Ryan?

    honest question

    [quote comment=”376751″]is it bad that i had to google “Hakim Warrick” because i couldn’t quite figure out from the picture what team he played for?[/quote]

    The Bu and the jersey wasn’t enough of a clue?

    Ticker said:
    An Expos cap might not be Andre Dawson’s cup of tea, but apparently link.

    Sh*t, link. Up here, the Expos cap isn’t a chick magnet, it’s an old Montrealer magnet. “Let’s go Expos,” “I miss them too,” “Where’d you get that?” etc.

    And in other news, can we officially put “Would Jim Vilk wear that?” with other rhetorical questions such as “Does a bear relieve himself in the woods?” and “Is the Pope Catholic?” I think so.

    [quote comment=”376781″][quote comment=”376779″]And I’d definitely wear this!
    link

    cool touques! i just wish the ASU logo was bigger!

    link

    The bizarre take on those would be to wear one for Miami or Hawaii…or ASU, yes…cuz, y’know, it get so cold in those places.

    Although, taking into account no loyalties and such, for sheer enjoyment and general loopiness, it’s tough to top the Michigan version.

    NFL needs those. Ponder the Rams or Eagles. Or Bengals.
    Tough to get the “themos-bottle-look” of the Jags, though, I’d imagine.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376792″][quote comment=”376781″][quote comment=”376779″]And I’d definitely wear this!
    link

    cool touques! i just wish the ASU logo was bigger!

    link

    The bizarre take on those would be to wear one for Miami or Hawaii…or ASU, yes…cuz, y’know, it get so cold in those places.

    Although, taking into account no loyalties and such, for sheer enjoyment and general loopiness, it’s tough to top the Michigan version.

    NFL needs those. Ponder the Rams or Eagles. Or Bengals.
    Tough to get the “themos-bottle-look” of the Jags, though, I’d imagine.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Did i miss it or they don’t offer a syracuse version???? Has anyone here been ‘on the hill’ anytime between 10/15 and 4/01???? — jeebus!

    [quote comment=”376791″]Ticker said:
    An Expos cap might not be Andre Dawson’s cup of tea, but apparently link.

    Sh*t, link. Up here, the Expos cap isn’t a chick magnet, it’s an old Montrealer magnet. “Let’s go Expos,” “I miss them too,” “Where’d you get that?” etc.

    And in other news, can we officially put “Would Jim Vilk wear that?” with other rhetorical questions such as “Does a bear relieve himself in the woods?” and “Is the Pope Catholic?” I think so.[/quote]

    I think that on this site ‘would Jim vilk wear that?’ is tantamount to ‘what would Jesus do?’.

    As your examples are more retorts to silly questions, no? Sorry…. didn’t mean to be utterly pedantic!

    However, I do approve of your suggestion-

    [quote comment=”376791″]And in other news, can we officially put “Would Jim Vilk wear that?” with other rhetorical questions such as “Does a bear relieve himself in the woods?” and “Is the Pope Catholic?” I think so.[/quote]

    Ah, but I do have my limits, believe it or not.

    That would be a good litmus test for uni designers. “Dang, if Vilk wouldn’t wear it, we’d better go back to the drawing board.”

    On the Red Wings dressing room pic…

    The other logo resembling a bullseye was a request for everybody to spend 10% of their wages to buy War Bonds.

    [quote comment=”376794″]That FloTV ad showing the Michigan Panthers is most likely the game against the Maulers:
    link

    Damn I miss the USFL.
    Spring football really was fun.
    Frickin’ Trump. Remember screaming at the TV, “You dipshits (other USFL owners)! What are you listening to that egomanic? Stay in the damn spring, make your own place in the market!”

    John Basset (who, sadly, was dying) was the guy they should have been following. Only met him a couple times when he first got involved with the WHA; really wish I could have worked with him. Basset, not Trump.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376796″]That would be a good litmus test for uni designers. “Dang, if Vilk wouldn’t wear it, we’d better go back to the drawing board.”[/quote]

    um…no

    see, this should have stayed as a fashion jersey

    however, i will grant you that if YOU wouldn’t wear it, it should probably never be seen in public…or private

    [quote comment=”376790″][quote comment=”376751″]is it bad that i had to google “Hakim Warrick” because i couldn’t quite figure out from the picture what team he played for?[/quote]

    The Bu and the jersey wasn’t enough of a clue?[/quote]

    no. i’m color deficient and they’ve changed their jerseys enough that now i don’t know what the F is going on. lol

    [quote comment=”376799″][quote comment=”376796″]That would be a good litmus test for uni designers. “Dang, if Vilk wouldn’t wear it, we’d better go back to the drawing board.”[/quote]

    um…no

    see, this should have link

    however, i will grant you that if YOU wouldn’t wear it, it should probably never be seen in public…or private[/quote]
    Not a good litmus test, but definitely the ultimate indictment against a bad uniform.
    Uniform categories: The Good, The Bad, and The Un-Vilk-able.

    [quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on!

    [quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link

    I know nothing of Aparicio’s current financial situation.
    But I’ll wager it appreciated a recent improvement.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376789″][quote comment=”376781″][quote comment=”376779″]And I’d definitely wear this!
    link

    cool touques! i just wish the ASU logo was bigger!

    link

    Wait.. what? What’s your draw to ASU Ryan?

    honest question[/quote]

    asu has my favorite college logo, and one of my favorites in all of sports. plus i love the yellow helmet! back in high school, when starter pull-overs were popular, i owned a sun devils version. got a lot of compliments on it! i think i might still have it somewhere too…

    [quote comment=”376798″][quote comment=”376794″]That FloTV ad showing the Michigan Panthers is most likely the game against the Maulers:
    link

    Damn I miss the USFL.
    Spring football really was fun.
    Frickin’ Trump. Remember screaming at the TV, “You dipshits (other USFL owners)! What are you listening to that egomanic? Stay in the damn spring, make your own place in the market!”

    John Basset (who, sadly, was dying) was the guy they should have been following. Only met him a couple times when he first got involved with the WHA; really wish I could have worked with him. Basset, not Trump.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That Small Potatoes documentary did a good job of showing the power shift. As Bassett’s health declined, Trump’s influence increased.

    Just glad I got a few games on tape. Frickin’ Trump.

    [quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    Oh … I was just talking about the White Sox getting press attention. That uniform thing is worrysome as well!!!

    [quote comment=”376806″][quote comment=”376789″][quote comment=”376781″][quote comment=”376779″]And I’d definitely wear this!
    link

    cool touques! i just wish the ASU logo was bigger!

    link

    Wait.. what? What’s your draw to ASU Ryan?

    honest question[/quote]

    asu has my favorite college logo, and one of my favorites in all of sports. plus i love the yellow helmet! back in high school, when starter pull-overs were popular, i owned a sun devils version. got a lot of compliments on it! i think i might still have it somewhere too…[/quote]

    Good stuff.

    Those Topps fauxback cards are a great idea!
    link

    Wondering about the opposite, though – can you see Jim Thorpe in a monochrome BFBS uni with shiny leotard pants? Maybe a clear visor on his helmet?

    Seeing the Plaquemine high school illustrations, reminded me of all the great ticket illustrations and program covers that Phil Neel did for Auburn. He’s also responsible for creating the school mascot, Aubie.

    [quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    - When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    - Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    - MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….

    [quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    Perhaps they could fashion him something along these lines:

    link

    [quote comment=”376797″]On the Red Wings dressing room pic…

    The other logo resembling a bullseye was a request for everybody to spend 10% of their wages to buy War Bonds.[/quote]

    link. It was worn from 1942 to 1945 by the Red Wings.

    [quote comment=”376816″]This ran…
    link
    …as part of yesterday’s Colts uni history.

    Is it who I think it is?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    It is. Based on this photo, too.
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376812″][quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    - When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    - Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    - MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….[/quote]

    The Coyotes unretired Bobby Hull’s number 9 for Brett when he joined the Coyotes after the lockout. That lasted 5 games.

    The Penguins unretired 66 for Mario when he came out of retirement.

    [quote comment=”376814″][quote comment=”376797″]On the Red Wings dressing room pic…

    The other logo resembling a bullseye was a request for everybody to spend 10% of their wages to buy War Bonds.[/quote]

    link. It was worn from 1942 to 1945 by the Red Wings.[/quote]

    Wow. Great detective work.

    [quote comment=”376822″][quote comment=”376814″][quote comment=”376797″]On the Red Wings dressing room pic…

    The other logo resembling a bullseye was a request for everybody to spend 10% of their wages to buy War Bonds.[/quote]

    link. It was worn from 1942 to 1945 by the Red Wings.[/quote]

    Wow. Great detective work.[/quote]

    Just gotta know where to look. ;o)

    [quote comment=”376824″][quote comment=”376822″][quote comment=”376814″][quote comment=”376797″]On the Red Wings dressing room pic…

    The other logo resembling a bullseye was a request for everybody to spend 10% of their wages to buy War Bonds.[/quote]

    link. It was worn from 1942 to 1945 by the Red Wings.[/quote]

    Wow. Great detective work.[/quote]

    Just gotta know link. ;o)[/quote]

    Trying that link again.

    Ohio State pressured Archie Griffin to let Andy Katzenmoyer wear the sacred #45. Archie was a good sport though, didn’t cause a stink.

    [quote comment=”376823″]Whoa. Lots to look at here.
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Awesome. My fave card is the RAGING Tom Landry of the Giants.

    [quote comment=”376818″]trying one more time.
    link

    I thought Shula was a lineman during his playing days… I must have gotten him confused w/ Chuck Noll

    [quote comment=”376819″][quote comment=”376812″][quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    – When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    – Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    – MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….[/quote]

    The Coyotes unretired Bobby Hull’s number 9 for Brett when he joined the Coyotes after the lockout. That lasted 5 games.

    The Penguins unretired 66 for Mario when he came out of retirement.[/quote]
    These examples come to mind right away, though I’m probably missing some.
    Charles Barkley got #32 for the 76ers to salute newly-HIV-positive Magic Johnson. (Julius Erving, however, could not.)
    Grant Hill got Phoenix Suns #33 after it was retired for Alvan Adams.

    [quote comment=”376821″]Helmets 49ers SHOULD have worn back in ’94.
    link

    Why are so many of the old skool QB ‘glam’ shots taken during execution of the jump pass???

    [quote comment=”376830″][quote comment=”376821″]Helmets 49ers SHOULD have worn back in ’94.
    link

    Why are so many of the old skool QB ‘glam’ shots taken during execution of the jump pass???[/quote]

    Because it was considered a pretty damn flashy maneuver back then.
    Honest.

    Speaking of flashy. “Juicemobiles,” anyone?
    link

    —Ricko

    For those of you who thought he predated color photography, I present

    link

    Was going to say “in living color”, but with Connie Mack there’s always the nagging doubt that would incorrect.

    [quote comment=”376819″][quote comment=”376812″][quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    - When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    - Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    - MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….[/quote]

    The Coyotes unretired Bobby Hull’s number 9 for Brett when he joined the Coyotes after the lockout. That lasted 5 games.

    The Penguins unretired 66 for Mario when he came out of retirement.[/quote]

    When a player “un-retires” and his number does the same, do they have a second (or, for Baines) third retirement ceremony for the number?

    BTW, Michael Jordan (23, not 45)

    A really unfortunate choice for the photo that year.
    Always figured someone at Topps was a Giants fan. After all, Colts had beaten Giants two straight times in NFL title game .
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376823″]Whoa. Lots to look at here.
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Brillant find, Ricko!

    two things hit me:

    1. Sammy wearing #43?
    2. sid luckman, john belushi…. separated @ birth?

    One of my first “all-time favorite” football cards.
    Helmet looked cool. Colors are cool. Pose is cool. Yellow works nicely with the uni. Very few players wore single digits at the time. Was just…memorable.
    link

    —Ricko

    sorry to be such a nuisance….

    two more observations emanating from Ricko’s Supplex55 find:

    1. Lenny Moore wearing 42? rookie year obviously.
    2. card # 73…. Johnny U in full smile mode???? surreal.

    Me like:

    link

    (would have saved a lot of controversy if I just linked to this for my ‘skins tweak a couple weeks ago…)

    [quote comment=”376828″][quote comment=”376818″]trying one more time.
    link

    I thought Shula was a lineman during his playing days… I must have gotten him confused w/ Chuck Noll[/quote]

    It is, of course, Y.A. Tittle, wearing #63 as QB of the green-gray Colts.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376835″]A really unfortunate choice for the photo that year.
    Always figured someone at Topps was a Giants fan. After all, Colts had beaten Giants two straight times in NFL title game .
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Related to David Duchovny?
    link

    The Sixers unretired Billy Cunningham’s 32 so Charles Barkley could wear it in honor of Magic Johnson after the HIV diagnosis, I think it was around 90-91 or so. The next year Chuck went back to his normal 34.

    [quote comment=”376812″][quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    - When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    - Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    - MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….[/quote]
    The Broncos let Romanowski wear the retired 53 of the very dissimilar Randy Gradishar.

    link

    Photo gallery I took at Saturday’s Camp Randall Hockey Classic. Cool shots of vingage hockey sweaters, goalies wearing knit caps & more!

    [quote comment=”376832″][quote comment=”376830″][quote comment=”376821″]Helmets 49ers SHOULD have worn back in ’94.
    link

    Why are so many of the old skool QB ‘glam’ shots taken during execution of the jump pass???[/quote]

    Because it was considered a pretty damn flashy maneuver back then.
    Honest.

    Speaking of flashy. “Juicemobiles,” anyone?
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    ‘Because it was considered a pretty damn flashy maneuver back then’

    –considered so until performed by Joe Kapp. :)

    [quote comment=”376812″][quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    - When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    - Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    - MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….[/quote]

    You know there is a difference when A player comes back to a team and UNRETIRES his own uniform #; Baines with CWS, Mario with the Penguins… but unretiring a number for someone else and they gave permission???? STUPID

    The people MyDomz.com didn’t look very closely at the Oregon helmet:
    link
    I’d buy one if they had gotten it right.

    [quote comment=”376841″][quote comment=”376828″][quote comment=”376818″]trying one more time.
    link

    I thought Shula was a lineman during his playing days… I must have gotten him confused w/ Chuck Noll[/quote]

    It is, of course, Y.A. Tittle, wearing #63 as QB of the green-gray Colts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was erroneously referring to another pic you linked yesterday. Don Shula, wearing 25 (pre shoulder loop colts jersey) assisting a teammate to suit up. Wearing #25— the assumption that Shula’s position was CB?

    [quote comment=”376845″]http://s834.photobucket.com/albums/zz265/bneureuther/Camp%20Randall%20Hockey%20Classic/?albumview=slideshow

    Photo gallery I took at Saturday’s Camp Randall Hockey Classic. Cool shots of vingage hockey sweaters, goalies wearing knit caps & more![/quote]

    wow, great pics! thanks for sharing!

    [quote comment=”376851″][quote comment=”376841″][quote comment=”376828″][quote comment=”376818″]trying one more time.
    link

    I thought Shula was a lineman during his playing days… I must have gotten him confused w/ Chuck Noll[/quote]

    It is, of course, Y.A. Tittle, wearing #63 as QB of the green-gray Colts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was erroneously referring to another pic you linked yesterday. Don Shula, wearing 25 (pre shoulder loop colts jersey) assisting a teammate to suit up. Wearing #25— the assumption that Shula’s position was CB?[/quote]

    DB, yes; not sure about CB. They hadn’t quite begun drawing distinctions between corners and safeties yet. At least not on roster listings. Was usually just “DB”.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376845″]

    Photo gallery I took at Saturday’s Camp Randall Hockey Classic. Cool shots of vingage hockey sweaters, goalies wearing knit caps & more![/quote]
    GREAT pics! What’s with both teams wearing dark jerseys though?

    -Jet

    [quote comment=”376850″]The people MyDomz.com didn’t look very closely at the Oregon helmet:
    link
    I’d buy one if they had gotten it right.[/quote]

    They obviously need to add feathers and galvanized steel marks and have 8 different designs.

    This is totally unbelievable. I wanted to buy something from the sponsor of the MLB Countdown clock, but it’s unsponsored.

    How could coorporate America have overlooked such a lucrative partnership like that?

    [quote comment=”376855″]rpm, it’s you…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Needs a bunch of those pot leaf buckeye stickers affixed to it.

    [quote comment=”376858″][quote comment=”376855″]rpm, it’s you…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Needs a bunch of those pot leaf buckeye stickers affixed to it.[/quote]

    Yeah, that worked really well…

    Needs some buckeye stickers. Better?

    So, the IOC, bastion of infinite wisdom that they are, are not cool with the awesome boxing kangaroo flag (which they see as some sort of advertisement even though it apparently shows up on no for-sale merch), but they’re alright with link? I understand the distinction between “sponsor/equipment provider” and “advertiser”, but isn’t that logo essentially an advertisement for Nike?

    Unrelated, but I also feel mention should be made of link. That right there is what a four-year scholarship from Indiana University will get ya!

    [quote comment=”376850″]The people MyDomz.com didn’t look very closely at the Oregon helmet:
    link
    I’d buy one if they had gotten it right.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. I wondered what color they would use. Also, for they guy looking for Syracuse: Somewhere on their website it says they are working on the rights for the Big East.

    [quote comment=”376761″][quote comment=”376742″][quote

    More importantly, is it just me, or is there NO character whatsoever to goalie pads anymore? They’re all just white with slashes on them. Why even post those pics of Giguere’s new equipment?[/quote]

    The only way goalie pads could ever have character in my book is if they’re old-school brown leather – and that goes for the blocker and catching glove as well. Anything else is an eyesore in my book….

    -Jet[/quote]

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe when they had the first winter classic game pittburgh @ buffalo, the goalies were supposed to wear old school brown leather pads blocker and glove. I was looking forward to it, but when gametime came they were sadly in their normal equipment. Sabres goalie matched colorwise (as new uni’s same colors as original) but penguins guy was way off wearing black yellow and white with powder blue. Looks like the back up penguins goalie had brown leather pads from what I can find picture wise on the net.

    [quote comment=”376861″][quote comment=”376850″]The people MyDomz.com didn’t look very closely at the Oregon helmet:
    link
    I’d buy one if they had gotten it right.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. I wondered what color they would use. Also, for they guy looking for Syracuse: Somewhere on their website it says they are working on the rights for the Big East.[/quote]
    aye… thanks, that’d be me.

    [quote comment=”376859″][quote comment=”376858″][quote comment=”376855″]rpm, it’s you…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Needs a bunch of those pot leaf buckeye stickers affixed to it.[/quote]

    Yeah, that worked really well…

    Needs some buckeye stickers. Better?[/quote]

    I’m guessing there was some hesitation when they got to the Alabama hat.

    [quote comment=”376816″]This ran…
    link
    …as part of yesterday’s Colts uni history.

    Is it who I think it is?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    damn interwebs went down…so im guessing that has already been answered…

    but it is the one and only yelberton abraham

    [quote comment=”376863″][quote comment=”376861″][quote comment=”376850″]The people MyDomz.com didn’t look very closely at the Oregon helmet:
    link
    I’d buy one if they had gotten it right.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. I wondered what color they would use. Also, for they guy looking for Syracuse: Somewhere on their website it says they are working on the rights for the Big East.[/quote]
    aye… thanks, that’d be me.[/quote]

    I wondering if, when they got to Oregon, they weren’t sure which color to use (too many chances for the hat not to match what Ducks were wearing in any given game), so they opted for something generic.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376860″]So, the IOC, bastion of infinite wisdom that they are, are not cool with the awesome boxing kangaroo flag (which they see as some sort of advertisement even though it apparently shows up on no for-sale merch), but they’re alright with link? I understand the distinction between “sponsor/equipment provider” and “advertiser”, but isn’t that logo essentially an advertisement for Nike?

    Unrelated, but I also feel mention should be made of link. That right there is what a four-year scholarship from Indiana University will get ya![/quote]

    As well as $40 and a “nice tip”

    While we’re picking on the MyDomz.com guys, I’ll point out that their link is missing the link that have adorned their helmets for the last two years. I’m a fan of those stripes, and I think they’d really spice up the hat a bit.

    [quote comment=”376868″]While we’re picking on the MyDomz.com guys, I’ll point out that their link is missing the link that have adorned their helmets for the last two years. I’m a fan of those stripes, and I think they’d really spice up the hat a bit.[/quote]

    Yeah, that WOULD look great with the two white stripes, wouldn’t it.
    And I, for one, don’t want to appear to be picking on them. I think it’s a fun idea (love the bumpers, etc.). I imagine they’re a relatively small business, so I’ll cut them some slack.

    Baylor one seems odd, too. And UCLA helmets don’t include “Bruins” in the underline.

    All in all, though, really fun. I can’t see how any even slightly crazy or casual Michigan fan could avoid buying that one. Even if just for snowblowing the driveway.

    (I’m kinda thinking the Gopher one might be good…for a snowy weekend “run to the store or walk the dog” hat)…notwithstanding the team’s current suckitude.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376862″]
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe when they had the first winter classic game pittburgh @ buffalo, the goalies were supposed to wear old school brown leather pads blocker and glove. I was looking forward to it, but when gametime came they were sadly in their normal equipment. Sabres goalie matched colorwise (as new uni’s same colors as original) but penguins guy was way off wearing black yellow and white with powder blue. Looks like the back up penguins goalie had brown leather pads from what I can find picture wise on the net.[/quote]

    Neither the NHL nor the NHLPA has that ability. Goalies wear the pads of who the business they are signed to in terms of an endorsement deal, or they wear what they like.

    Dany Sabourin did opt to wear the faux leather pads, but he had broken those in over a few weeks of practice.

    [quote comment=”376869″][quote comment=”376868″]While we’re picking on the MyDomz.com guys, I’ll point out that their link is missing the link that have adorned their helmets for the last two years. I’m a fan of those stripes, and I think they’d really spice up the hat a bit.[/quote]

    Yeah, that WOULD look great with the two white stripes, wouldn’t it.
    And I, for one, don’t want to appear to be picking on them. I think it’s a fun idea (love the bumpers, etc.). I imagine they’re a relatively small business, so I’ll cut them some slack.

    Baylor one seems odd, too. And UCLA helmets don’t include “Bruins” in the underline.

    All in all, though, really fun. I can’t see how any even slightly crazy or casual Michigan fan could avoid buying that one. Even if just for snowblowing the driveway.

    (I’m kinda thinking the Gopher one might be good…for a snowy weekend “run to the store or walk the dog” hat)…notwithstanding the team’s current suckitude.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Any time the Hoosiers are on ESPN, they always use a stripe-free helmet as a studio prop.

    So, if The Worldwide Leader In Sports® can’t be bothered to get it right, then I guess we can definitely cut them some slack.

    Few Thoughts:

    – On the Senior Skills patch thing, I think things would look better if they didn’t cover the logos. How about some consistency in placement?

    – If the Domz corp. could make a totally realistic FS cap, I would not only be impressed, it would be added to my “headgear rotation.” Go ‘Dogs!

    [quote comment=”376871″][quote comment=”376862″]
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe when they had the first winter classic game pittburgh @ buffalo, the goalies were supposed to wear old school brown leather pads blocker and glove. I was looking forward to it, but when gametime came they were sadly in their normal equipment. Sabres goalie matched colorwise (as new uni’s same colors as original) but penguins guy was way off wearing black yellow and white with powder blue. Looks like the back up penguins goalie had brown leather pads from what I can find picture wise on the net.[/quote]

    Neither the NHL nor the NHLPA has that ability. Goalies wear the pads of who the business they are signed to in terms of an endorsement deal, or they wear what they like.

    Dany Sabourin did opt to wear the faux leather pads, but he had broken those in over a few weeks of practice.[/quote]

    Actually when I said “supposed to” I meant that thats what I had read in the weeks prior to the game, not that someone was forcing them to wear brown leather. It would have been a really nice touch.

    [quote comment=”376875″]
    Actually when I said “supposed to” I meant that thats what I had read in the weeks prior to the game, not that someone was forcing them to wear brown leather. It would have been a really nice touch.[/quote]

    Ok, just making sure. We don’t want the NFL’s Uniform Police stalking players as they skate onto the ice… despite Phil’s insistence that helmets should not be personalized. LOL

    [quote comment=”376872″][quote comment=”376869″][quote comment=”376868″]While we’re picking on the MyDomz.com guys, I’ll point out that their link is missing the link that have adorned their helmets for the last two years. I’m a fan of those stripes, and I think they’d really spice up the hat a bit.[/quote]

    Yeah, that WOULD look great with the two white stripes, wouldn’t it.
    And I, for one, don’t want to appear to be picking on them. I think it’s a fun idea (love the bumpers, etc.). I imagine they’re a relatively small business, so I’ll cut them some slack.

    Baylor one seems odd, too. And UCLA helmets don’t include “Bruins” in the underline.

    All in all, though, really fun. I can’t see how any even slightly crazy or casual Michigan fan could avoid buying that one. Even if just for snowblowing the driveway.

    (I’m kinda thinking the Gopher one might be good…for a snowy weekend “run to the store or walk the dog” hat)…notwithstanding the team’s current suckitude.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Any time the Hoosiers are on ESPN, they always use a stripe-free helmet as a studio prop.

    So, if The Worldwide Leader In Sports® can’t be bothered to get it right, then I guess we can definitely cut them some slack.[/quote]

    Yeah…I’m not very good at cutting slack to the Worlwide Leader. In fairness to them, though, Indiana only appears on their networks when appearing as the whipping boy for the Ohio States and Michigans of the world. The Domz people do an awesome thing (which I’m surprised the more evil of the sports merch empires haven’t jumped on yet), but I’d the officially licensed merch to match the current look.

    ^^^

    Last sentence doesn’t apply to Oregon hats. A pinwheel mashup of their various helmets would be the way to go there, I think.

    [quote comment=”376877″]Let’s try that again…

    link[/quote]

    I think the guy who designed that card must have been drinking with BobbY. Didn’t seem to get much right on there, did he?

    [quote comment=”376878″] despite Phil’s insistence that helmets should not be personalized. LOL[/quote]

    that’s masks, slappy

    [quote comment=”376870″]And I certainly hope War Damn Eagle is all over this…
    link

    Correction: War Chicken.
    Any questions??? Google Pat Dye, sugar bowl, 1988.
    :) still chewing on my bile from that!!!!!

    [quote comment=”376881″][quote comment=”376877″]Let’s try that again…

    link[/quote]

    I think the guy who designed that card must have been drinking with BobbY. Didn’t seem to get much right on there, did he?[/quote]

    Think that’s a tinted version of Layne in a Bears jersey.
    When he first came up with them, they had at QB…

    42…Sid Luckman
    32…Johnny Lujack
    22…Bobby Layne
    (Those are their jersey numbers, not their ages).

    Have a photo of the three of them together in one of my books, I believe. I’ll see if I can find it when I get home.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”376883″][quote comment=”376870″]And I certainly hope War Damn Eagle is all over this…
    link

    Correction: War Chicken.
    Any questions??? Google Pat Dye, sugar bowl, 1988.
    :) still chewing on my bile from that!!!!![/quote]

    don’t you mean google “pat tie”?

    [quote comment=”376879″]Yeah…I’m not very good at cutting slack to the Worlwide Leader. In fairness to them, though, Indiana only appears on their networks when appearing as the whipping boy for the Ohio States and Michigans of the world. The Domz people do an awesome thing (which I’m surprised the more evil of the sports merch empires haven’t jumped on yet), but I’d the officially licensed merch to match the current look.[/quote]
    I suppose it link.

    As for the Domz guys, I was wondering if maybe they were just using old pictures and the hat actually does have the stripes. I sent them a message asking if that was the case.

    [quote comment=”376885″][quote comment=”376883″][quote comment=”376870″]And I certainly hope War Damn Eagle is all over this…
    link

    Correction: War Chicken.
    Any questions??? Google Pat Dye, sugar bowl, 1988.
    :) still chewing on my bile from that!!!!![/quote]

    don’t you mean google “pat tie”?[/quote]
    Pad Thai?

    [quote comment=”376860″]So, the IOC, bastion of infinite wisdom that they are, are not cool with the awesome boxing kangaroo flag (which they see as some sort of advertisement even though it apparently shows up on no for-sale merch), but they’re alright with link? I understand the distinction between “sponsor/equipment provider” and “advertiser”, but isn’t that logo essentially an advertisement for Nike?
    [/quote]

    The IOC’s real problem is they weren’t paid first.

    Could be I hadn’t noticed it before, yet, the fellers over at Helmet Hut just added a very hip one bar Bengals helmet.

    Maybe, it’ll be “Who Dey!” next year?

    link

    [quote comment=”376893″]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/4338433428_84bf2ebb74_o.jpg

    I liked these current NFLers in old style uniforms and helmets[/quote]

    isn’t that favre’s rookie card?

    Only the 2nd time in Super Bowl history that both teams had symmetrical helmet logos.

    just sayin

    [quote comment=\”376854\”][quote comment=\”376845\”]

    Photo gallery I took at Saturday\’s Camp Randall Hockey Classic. Cool shots of vingage hockey sweaters, goalies wearing knit caps & more![/quote]
    GREAT pics! What\’s with both teams wearing dark jerseys though?

    -Jet[/quote]

    Thanks- I think the Badgers may have gone with the red since they were playing in Camp Randall, and thats what the football team wears at home.

    [quote comment=”376895″]YA Tittle was on the Browns and for the AAFC to help the new Colts they more or less gave YA to the Colts.
    [/quote]
    I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Tittle was drafted by the Lions and then without playing for them began his active career in the AAFC with the original Baltimore Colts, later following that team to their one and only season in the NFL, before joining the ’49ers.

    Oh, never mind! Tittle was with the Browns briefly between the Lions and the Colts, he just never appeared in a game. Sorry.

    [quote comment=”376830″]
    Why are so many of the old skool QB ‘glam’ shots taken during execution of the jump pass???[/quote]
    Even Tom Landry (’51) is in that pose and he was a defensive back!

    [quote comment=”376901″]Oh, never mind! Tittle was with the Browns briefly between the Lions and the Colts, he just never appeared in a game. Sorry.[/quote]

    Ya I watched the Colts history dvd and Saints 67 and 68 dvds for the Sunday entry. They more or less since YA Tittle was not used on the Browns that to help out the Colts they gave him to Colts.

    I was not aware of that.

    [quote comment=”376833″]For those of you who thought he predated color photography, I present

    link

    Was going to say “in living color”, but with Connie Mack there’s always the nagging doubt that would incorrect.[/quote]

    Nice find squiddie

    Paul was asking about the Mets jacket patch from 1973. It was some sort of NYC anniversary commemoration.

    Paul, I know my brother (Paul W.) not only knows the details but has some artwork with the patch’s details, you can email him I’m sure.

    [quote comment=”376905″]Paul was asking about the Mets jacket patch from 1973. It was some sort of NYC anniversary commemoration.

    Paul, I know my brother (Paul W.) not only knows the details but has some artwork with the patch’s details, you can email him I’m sure.[/quote]

    Ha — he already sent all that info to me a few hrs ago! It’ll be in tomorrow’s Ticker.

    Y’know, there’s no Uni Watch tag team like the Wiederecht brothers. Maybe a Uni Watch Profiles double-interview is in order….

    [quote comment=”376875″][quote comment=”376871″][quote comment=”376862″]
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe when they had the first winter classic game pittburgh @ buffalo, the goalies were supposed to wear old school brown leather pads blocker and glove. I was looking forward to it, but when gametime came they were sadly in their normal equipment. Sabres goalie matched colorwise (as new uni’s same colors as original) but penguins guy was way off wearing black yellow and white with powder blue. Looks like the back up penguins goalie had brown leather pads from what I can find picture wise on the net.[/quote]

    Neither the NHL nor the NHLPA has that ability. Goalies wear the pads of who the business they are signed to in terms of an endorsement deal, or they wear what they like.

    Dany Sabourin did opt to wear the faux leather pads, but he had broken those in over a few weeks of practice.[/quote]

    Actually when I said “supposed to” I meant that thats what I had read in the weeks prior to the game, not that someone was forcing them to wear brown leather. It would have been a really nice touch.[/quote]

    Carey Price wore brown leather pads for the Canadiens in their Centennial games last season, actually graced the cover of ESPN wearing them.

    link

    [quote comment=”376896″]Only the 2nd time in Super Bowl history that both teams had symmetrical helmet logos.

    just sayin[/quote]

    Reflected vertically, I presume?
    The Colts did a little better link …?

    [quote comment=”376823″]Whoa. Lots to look at here.
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Absolutely astounding — thanks Ricko. As an ancient Raider fan, two that jumped out at me:

    * Jim Otto wearing link (even deviating from link); and
    * Lamonica link (and number) on his first Raider card

    [quote comment=”376910″]
    Reflected vertically, I presume?[/quote]
    Vertically, horizontally, diagonally…

    I’m guessing you’re hinting that link would have been #2, but take a close look at link. It’s not horizontally symmetrical.

    [quote comment=”376735″]Can anyone think of a Superbowl quarterback who’s NFL team helmet is nearly identical (except for logo)to their college helmet,as Drew Brees’s?Purdue/Saints exact match.[/quote]
    Eli Manning-Giants/Kansas
    Terry Bradshaw-Steelers/Iowa

    [quote comment=”376916″][quote comment=”376735″]Can anyone think of a Superbowl quarterback who’s NFL team helmet is nearly identical (except for logo)to their college helmet,as Drew Brees’s?Purdue/Saints exact match.[/quote]
    Eli Manning-Giants/Kansas
    Terry Bradshaw-Steelers/Iowa[/quote]

    i think the questioner was looking for that QB actually attending said college

    /but you knew that marty ;)

    [quote comment=”376917″][quote comment=”376916″][quote comment=”376735″]Can anyone think of a Superbowl quarterback who’s NFL team helmet is nearly identical (except for logo)to their college helmet,as Drew Brees’s?Purdue/Saints exact match.[/quote]
    Eli Manning-Giants/Kansas
    Terry Bradshaw-Steelers/Iowa[/quote]

    i think the questioner was looking for that QB actually attending said college

    /but you knew that marty ;)[/quote]
    The Giants and Ole Miss helmets are similar.

    Late to the game, I know, but the Lions un-retired Joe Schmidt’s #56 (with his blessing) for Pat Swilling back in the early ’90s.

    Eli Manning used to hand off to another tailback named Brandon Jacobs at Ole Miss. Not to be confused with the Jacobs he now plays with. To confuse matters even more so, the Mississippi Jacobs wore #27.

    Phil Neel still does these types of things (Plaquemine High School illustrations) link
    and he did do some fun work for Auburn (programs and ticket design). Big collection of that work here: link

    Tax season and blizzard season is keeping me from playing along much…

    Just a couple quick hits, while pondering how to get the bacon grease in the microwave popcorn bag…

    Don Shula was a “Halfback” on defense… I don’t believe the terms Defensive Halfback or Defensive Back were in common use. My Mom handed down many ’50s Colts programs and I just remember “halfback”.

    Blondie Bumstead… Dayum!!!

    [quote comment=”376886″][quote comment=”376879″]Yeah…I’m not very good at cutting slack to the Worlwide Leader. In fairness to them, though, Indiana only appears on their networks when appearing as the whipping boy for the Ohio States and Michigans of the world. The Domz people do an awesome thing (which I’m surprised the more evil of the sports merch empires haven’t jumped on yet), but I’d the officially licensed merch to match the current look.[/quote]
    I suppose it link.

    As for the Domz guys, I was wondering if maybe they were just using old pictures and the hat actually does have the stripes. I sent them a message asking if that was the case.[/quote]
    And I got my answer.

    Subject: Correction
    Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:42 PM

    I stand corrected, the new IU helmets do have stripes and so do our hats for this 2010 football season.

    Thanks,

    Roy

    [quote comment=”376922″]Tax season and blizzard season is keeping me from playing along much…

    Just a couple quick hits, while pondering how to get the bacon grease in the microwave popcorn bag…

    Don Shula was a “Halfback” on defense… I don’t believe the terms Defensive Halfback or Defensive Back were in common use. My Mom handed down many ’50s Colts programs and I just remember “halfback”.

    Blondie Bumstead… Dayum!!![/quote]

    From yesterday. Don Shula

    link

    And Blondie Bumstead caught my eye too in the ref uniform

    [quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link
    [quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link

    Art was a funny guest in his Letterman appearances.
    Here is Art in that #70

    link

    [quote comment=”376915″][quote comment=”376910″]
    Reflected vertically, I presume?[/quote]
    Vertically, horizontally, diagonally…

    I’m guessing you’re hinting that link would have been #2, but take a close look at link. It’s not horizontally symmetrical.[/quote]

    No argument. Wasn’t thinking Bears, but ‘way back to SB V with the Colts and the blue-shirted ‘boys. I can only assume The Lone Star is at least a vertical mirror-image … Roger?

    [quote comment=”376927″][quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link
    [quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link

    Art was a funny guest in his Letterman appearances.
    Here is Art in that #70

    link
    That is a a real nice color picture from training camp at Western Maryland College. Ten miles from my house and where the Ravens hold camp now.

    [quote comment=”376928″][quote comment=”376915″][quote comment=”376910″]
    Reflected vertically, I presume?[/quote]
    Vertically, horizontally, diagonally…

    I’m guessing you’re hinting that link would have been #2, but take a close look at link. It’s not horizontally symmetrical.[/quote]

    No argument. Wasn’t thinking Bears, but ‘way back to SB V with the Colts and the blue-shirted ‘boys. I can only assume The Lone Star is at least a vertical mirror-image … Roger?[/quote]
    Yeah, SBV would be the first time. Last night was the second.

    I thought when you specified the vertical orientation, you were implying that maybe there was a time when one or both teams had a logo that was symmetrical along the X-axis.

    [quote comment=”376928″][quote comment=”376915″][quote comment=”376910″]
    Reflected vertically, I presume?[/quote]
    Vertically, horizontally, diagonally…

    I’m guessing you’re hinting that link would have been #2, but take a close look at link. It’s not horizontally symmetrical.[/quote]

    No argument. Wasn’t thinking Bears, but ‘way back to SB V with the Colts and the blue-shirted ‘boys. I can only assume The Lone Star is at least a vertical mirror-image … Roger?[/quote]

    The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.

    [quote comment=”376934″]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQ-9YGBlBzs/S20x9o-YSRI/AAAAAAAAVxY/_psFdX5MaOs/s640/565.jpg

    link

    Last try at those 2. And I will try linking my album to see if that works.

    link

    i love this one

    think i used that in yesterday’s piece

    [quote comment=”376935″]The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.[/quote]

    and the browns, technically

    of course, you’re referring to teams who’ve been in a super bowl

    [quote comment=”376934″]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQ-9YGBlBzs/S20x9o-YSRI/AAAAAAAAVxY/_psFdX5MaOs/s640/565.jpg

    link

    Last try at those 2. And I will try linking my album to see if that works.

    link
    Great album.

    [quote comment=”376938″][quote comment=”376935″]The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.[/quote]

    and the browns, technically

    of course, you’re referring to teams who’ve been in a super bowl[/quote]

    Damn. Good point. The (=B=) logo is/was symmetrical if divided horizontally. I forgot about that thing.

    [quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link

    Old Colts? or Old Dolt in Art’s case.
    Just kidding, I miss the old lunatic.

    The patch on the jacket that the great Mr. Mays is wearing is from 1973. It celebrated the 75th anniversary of New York City expanding to include all five Boroughs. There are some people in Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx, and Staten Island who still view that as a mixed blessing.

    [quote comment=”376927″][quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link
    [quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link

    Art was a funny guest in his Letterman appearances.
    Here is Art in that #70

    link

    According to Sunday’s primer, this picture dates back to 1956??? Hell, Art already looks 75yrs. old in this picture!

    [quote comment=”376937″][quote comment=”376934″]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQ-9YGBlBzs/S20x9o-YSRI/AAAAAAAAVxY/_psFdX5MaOs/s640/565.jpg

    link

    Last try at those 2. And I will try linking my album to see if that works.

    link

    i love link

    think i used that in yesterday’s piece[/quote]
    i’m loving this one !!!! charming. :)

    link

    [quote comment=”376938″][quote comment=”376935″]The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.[/quote]

    and the browns, technically

    of course, you’re referring to teams who’ve been in a super bowl[/quote]
    The Bears as well? Horizontally, down the middle. I think the Wishbone C counts.

    This may have already been mentioned, but I clicked on only a few of the NCAA knit hats and some were not accurate (Oregon, USC). Not sure how many of the total were, but if it’s officially licensed seems like they could get them all perfectly correct (and have 3 versions for Oregon!).

    [quote comment=”376941″][quote comment=”376924″]Speaking of old Colts – Letterman was wearing a sweet Art Donovan throwback in the promo last night
    link

    Old Colts? or Old Dolt in Art’s case.
    Just kidding, I miss the old lunatic.[/quote]

    He’s still around, but at 85 seems to be keeping a much lower profile. He owes his longevity to a steady diet of Hebrew National hot dogs and Schlitz*

    *Miller sponsored his radio show. When we went to see it live, he would be two-fistng the Schlitz but would be sure to say “give me another Miller’s” on the air.

    [quote comment=”376944″][quote comment=”376937″][quote comment=”376934″]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQ-9YGBlBzs/S20x9o-YSRI/AAAAAAAAVxY/_psFdX5MaOs/s640/565.jpg

    link

    Last try at those 2. And I will try linking my album to see if that works.

    link

    i love link

    think i used that in yesterday’s piece[/quote]
    i’m loving this one !!!! charming. :)

    link
    #81 is Ordell Braase aka “Bugsie” – Donovan’s dear friend and radio partner for many years. Drafted in ’54 but not active according to Pro Football reference till ’57. But no other Colt wore 81 from 54-56 so that is him.

    [quote comment=”376945″][quote comment=”376938″][quote comment=”376935″]The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.[/quote]

    and the browns, technically

    of course, you’re referring to teams who’ve been in a super bowl[/quote]
    The Bears as well? Horizontally, down the middle. I think the Wishbone C counts.[/quote]

    Nope. Look closely. The top half is shorter. The Cincinnati Reds version of the C looks like it is, but the Bears is not.

    [quote comment=”376948″][quote comment=”376944″][quote comment=”376937″][quote comment=”376934″]http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bQ-9YGBlBzs/S20x9o-YSRI/AAAAAAAAVxY/_psFdX5MaOs/s640/565.jpg

    link

    Last try at those 2. And I will try linking my album to see if that works.

    link

    i love link

    think i used that in yesterday’s piece[/quote]
    i’m loving this one !!!! charming. :)

    link
    #81 is Ordell Braase aka “Bugsie” – Donovan’s dear friend and radio partner for many years. Drafted in ’54 but not active according to Pro Football reference till ’57. But no other Colt wore 81 from 54-56 so that is him.[/quote]

    Thanks Taxman…. loved your previous post as well. Artie kinda went ‘underground’ after leaving the ESPN scene some time back. I’m glad he did that… all it did was tarnish his legend.

    Meanwhile, Buggsy now makes sense to me… he look like he might be Robin to Artie’s Adam West Batman.

    I can imagine Artie and Ordell out on the lash as the Brits coin it…. must have been impressive.

    They still brew Schlitz??? stunned!

    [quote comment=”376949″][quote comment=”376945″][quote comment=”376938″][quote comment=”376935″]The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.[/quote]

    and the browns, technically

    of course, you’re referring to teams who’ve been in a super bowl[/quote]
    The Bears as well? Horizontally, down the middle. I think the Wishbone C counts.[/quote]

    Nope. Look closely. The top half is shorter. The Cincinnati Reds version of the C looks like it is, but the Bears is not.[/quote]
    Cowboys

    [quote comment=”376951″][quote comment=”376949″][quote comment=”376945″][quote comment=”376938″][quote comment=”376935″]The only teams in the league with symmetrical logos are the Colts, Cowboys & Saints. The old Oilers were as well.[/quote]

    and the browns, technically

    of course, you’re referring to teams who’ve been in a super bowl[/quote]
    The Bears as well? Horizontally, down the middle. I think the Wishbone C counts.[/quote]

    Nope. Look closely. The top half is shorter. The Cincinnati Reds version of the C looks like it is, but the Bears is not.[/quote]
    Cowboys[/quote]
    Sorry… missed the mention of it before. My bad.

    [quote comment=”376812″][quote comment=”376804″][quote comment=”376800″]I don’t like this precedent …

    link
    Agreed, why bother retiring a number if you just give it out again. I mean, come on![/quote]

    What other numbers have been un-retired?

    Off the top of my head:

    - When Jerry Rice was briefly with the Seahawks, he got Steve Largent’s permission to wear No. 80.

    - Didn’t the White Sox retire Hal Baines’s number after his first stint with the team and then end up un-retiring it when he came back for a second tour of duty?

    - MLB, No. 42, every April 15th.

    I’m sure there are others….[/quote]

    Doug Atkins #81 was retired by the Saints for many years, then un-retired for use by WR’s prior to the NFL allowing #’s 10-19 to be used by WR’s NFL – as the Saints had run out of numbers in the 80’s at that time.

    I believe that other teams had similar situations at that time.

    [quote comment=”376741″]Paul, if you like pinned-on numbers (like in that 1920s football photo from Shorpy), you need to come to Japan to watch amateur baseball. In high school baseball, it’s standard, and the numbers are always on a white background, always in the same black font, even if link. For some reason, the #1 is always very thick, and the “1” characters in #10, #11, #12… are normal. No idea why this is.

    In one league I’m in, the manager is *required* to wear #30, so we had to have a white pinstriped rectangle made up with #30 on it, to pin on top of his regular #5, just for those games.

    I must confess to liking how that rectangle is set aide from the rest of the jersey. Some NFL or college team ought to do throwbacks with that design.[/quote]

    From the Japanese High School games I’ve watched generally the numbers the players wear correspond to their position number on the field. The teams best pitcher wears #1, catcher #2, 1B #3, etc. and I believe the secondary pitchers wear #11, #12.
    I’m not sure how often they change the numbers during the season, if at all, but I assume that is why they are not directly on the uniform.

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