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Which Got Lower Ratings Yesterday, the Pro Bowl or the Pro Bowlers Tour?

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While you were doing something comparatively productive with your life (like, say, taking a nap, or scratching your ass), readers Joshua Brisco and Aaron McHargue were actually paying attention to the Pro Bowl. When you’ve stopped laughing, take a look at some of the things they noticed:

• Tony Romo’s sleeves were flaring outward a bit. Why? Because he slit them at the armpits.

• Vince Young’s skullcap featured the old NFL logo.

• DeSean Jackson was doing the one eye black thing (which he apparently used to do back in college.

So there you have it: proof positive that wasting three-plus hours of your life can result in some marginally interesting material. But that’s nothing compared to what Jared Pike did: He attended the Pro Bowl! I didn’t have the heart to ask if he actually paid for the tickets, especially since he sent some interesting photos:

• “I had a blast uni-watching at the NFL Experience before the game,” says Jared. “This kid was at the ‘Kick a field goal’ booth. The tape was covering a Chad Pennington NOB.” That has to be one of the best fan modifications ever.

• “There were plenty of loyal (and accurate) Miami Dolphins fans in attendance, but a FNOB Dan Marino? Seriously? To distinguish him from the other Marinos?”

• “The Bethune Cookman College marching band, otherwise very good, spoiled their halftime show by forming a Michael Jackson figure grabbing his crotch.”

• “I know this will be your favorite: The gentleman in front of us had a Miami Dolphins yarmulke.”

Major thanks to Joshua, Aaron, and Jared for their valuable public service. I look forward to their extensive Olympic biathlon coverage.

Coming tomorrow: Some major uni-historical breakthroughs. Seriously.

ESPN reminder: In case you missed it, my ESPN column about my recent trip to the Twin Cities is available here, and I don’t mind saying I’m pretty pleased with how it turned out. Enjoy.

Uni Watch News Ticker: As you may have heard by now, CBS has nixed a Super Bowl ad that showed a guy in a Packers jersey and a guy in a Vikings jersey making out. … What’s with the super-high uni number? It’s a guy from a radio station WSAI, which is 1360 on the AM dial (with thanks to Paul Wiederecht). … Mako Mameli sent along a bunch of screen shots from the 1991 AFC Championship Game, including Mark Kelso wearing the ProCap, a McNOB, the Bills’ kickoff specialist wearing two different brands of white shoes, Torin Dorn with two pairs of gloves, and some inconsistent NOB action. Coupla other things regarding that last link: First, for the image on the left, note that there’s no space between the period and “Davis.” And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend? … New uniforms and logos for the single-A Wilmington Blue Rocks — including some totally bitchin’ striped stirrups (with thanks to Chris Ray). … Speaking of striped socks, how long has the Michigan State hoops team been wearing these vertically striped hose? (As noted by Nicklas Lane.) … Nice throwback for Xavier last Thursday (with thanks to Kevin Hastings). … Rob Perkey has found another catcher who wears his helmet brim facing forward: Robinzon Diaz. … New uniform set for the Chiba Lotte Marines (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Also from Jeremy: Here’s the logo for spring training games that the Dodgers will be playing in Taiwan. … If you go to the Life photo archives and search on the term “football dummies,” you get some pretty bizarre images. “Many of the dummies are listed as having been made by Marty Gilman of Gilman, Connecticut,” notes Lance Smith. “A quick Google search shows there’s still a firm called Gilman Gear that makes athletic equipment.” They’ll be getting a call from me shortly. … One of the best things about the NFC Championship Game was the big Sir Saint backdrops behind the goalposts at the Superdome. And now they’ve put Sir Saint on a cap. But jeez, ya think that NFL logo on the back is big enough? (With thanks to Terence Kearns.) … Love the little mascot uniform in this 1896 baseball team portrait (great find by Craig McGlone). … Good article about English Premier League sleeve badges here (with thanks to Timothy O’Malley). … Love the Sears sign in this 1953 photo. But what’s that Coke sign at left say? “Home of Atlanta Crackers” — that’s Ponce de Leon Park in Atlanta, where the Crackers and Black Crackers both played. Those photos are from the excellent Atlanta Time Machine site, which was pointed out to me by Blair Thompson. … Latest league to rip off Jerry Dior’s MLB logo concept: the Women’s National Volleyball Association (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Washington Huskies wore some BFBS alternates on Saturday. … Paul Brandt sang the national anthem at Saturday’s Flames/Oilers game while wearing a Flames jersey with a note instead of a uni number (thanks, Kek). … There are two notable aspects to this Sonny Jurgensen photo. The first one is obvious but don’t overlook the fact that the TV numbers are on the shoulders — unusual, because the mid-’60s Eagles wore northwestern-striped jerseys with TV numbers on the sleeves. Ricko says the Sonny shot is from an early-’60s preseason game, circa ’61 (here’s another photo from the same game, pre-jersey tear), but Tim Brulia says the Iggles wore this style for a few late-’50s regular season games, and that this design marked the first time a team put TV numbers on the shoulders. … Really interesting story about purple Lego pieces (great find by Matthew Edwards). … Unfortunately, I didn’t win this catalog, but I’m intrigued by a few of the photos in the auction listing, including these horrific softball uniforms and the very interesting basketball shorts shown at the top-left of this page. Never seen that circular bullseye insert before. Hey, Terry Proctor, what can you tell us about that style? … Terence Kearns found a site with some very cool soccer-themed T-shirts. … Alex Ozenberger reports that Miramar High in Florida has one of the weirdest hodgepodge uni designs ever — Flying Elvis on the chest, bizarre-o number font, Oregon-style diamondplate (which is reflective, natch), and vertically striped socks. … Typo alert: BYU’s Charles Abouo’s NOB was misspelled on Saturday. And yes, they were wearing pink for cancer awareness (with thanks to Christopher Jones). … Daniel Caceres recently purchased a Cowboys jersey with an odd mix of old and new NFL logos. … Tremendous video clip featuring a 1970 Browns/Bengals game here. Among many other details, check out the jacket being worn by the guy holding the down marker (awesome find by Brinke Guthrie). … More standout video goodness: highlights from the 1962 NBA All-star Game. That’s the introductory segment — see the right sidebar for links to the first half, third quarter, and fourth quarter. Note that No. 4 on the East squad appears to have been wearing a mask. Not positive who that was, but I think it was Dolph Schayes (big thanks to Charlie Panian). … While looking for something else, I came across this shot of Reggie McKenzie wearing glasses on the sidelines. … Also stumbled upon this shot of Johnny Unitas in his first Chargers practice, circa 1973. Love how Johnny U is still wearing his old black high-tops. Also, kinda funny that the Chargers’ practice shirt was a tee with the team’s helmet. … Small item on this page indicates that Nate Schierholtz, who has mostly batted bare-handed up until now, will go with batting gloves this season (as noted by Tremaine Eto). … John Sobotka was watching some old World Cup footage and noticed that the German goalkeeper in 1966 was wearing a newsboy’s cap. … Nice find by Philip Garza, who found this New England Pats bike on eBay. … One sport I neglected to check out while I was in Minnesota: iceball (with thanks to Eric Baukol). … Nick Hanson attended Saturday’s Florida Everblades game and noticed that goalie Chris Beckford-Tseu’s pants didn’t match those of his teammates. … The mighty Fleer Sticker Project scores again, this time with a gorgeous set of NFL helmet-themed Hormel trays. Amazing stuff. … Brinke Guthrie says he remembers seeing a late-’60s white rain poncho covered with all the then-current NFL team logos. “Key point: It had reflective aluminum-y material on the inside, so it reflected your body heat,” he says. Anyone know more? … Interesting story about how Joe Robbie is being prepped for the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl here.

 

205 comments to Which Got Lower Ratings Yesterday, the Pro Bowl or the Pro Bowlers Tour?

  • Flemmy | February 1, 2010 at 8:02 am |

    I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing the WVU football team wearing those same vertical socks as the Michigan State basketball team, but with a blue stripe, of course.

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 8:09 am |

    Damn Harry Potter ruining the integrity of Lego. When I was a kid, purple Legos did not exist, and we liked it that way.

  • Jon | February 1, 2010 at 8:12 am |

    Does Romo’s head look ENORMOUS in that photo??

  • Aaron McHargue | February 1, 2010 at 8:15 am |

    Romo’s head looked huge because I took the picture at a downward angle to the tv.

  • failos2002 | February 1, 2010 at 8:19 am |

    Yes, the Pro Bowl is stupid.

    Yes, the uniforms sucked. Again.

    But I almost want to convert to Judaism just for sports-themed yamulkes. Is that wrong? As an Angels fan, the whole halo thing is rife with possibility…

  • JAson | February 1, 2010 at 8:23 am |

    MSU is wearing the Nike Elite Basketball sock. The black ones have a white stripe up the back.

    http://photo.the-ozo...

  • Dave | February 1, 2010 at 8:27 am |

    Kelso was also the last player on the Bills to keep the second stripe on his sleeve – everyone else had cut them after the first stripe.

  • Bob | February 1, 2010 at 8:49 am |

    Purple is not a common Lego color. If you really need purple bricks, try Bricklink.

    http://www.bricklink...

  • Ben Jye | February 1, 2010 at 8:55 am |

    In regards to the pic in the ticker about the goalie for the Florida Everglades, I saw the Everglades play the South Carolina Stingrays on New Year’s Eve in Charleston, SC, and I’m fairly certain the Everglades goalie had on those same pants then, but I can’t find a picture as of yet. In talking to a friend that works for the Stingrays, I found out that both goalies in that game had just been called up and been with their teams for less than 24 hours, so I guess he was still wearing the pants from his old team. But it seems weird that they don’t have the guy some new pants by now…..

  • Mark K | February 1, 2010 at 9:04 am |

    The Bills and Dolphins both had American flags the week prior; a game that was played in the snow.

  • Seth | February 1, 2010 at 9:06 am |

    The vertical stripe socks are Nike socks. Every Nike teams wears them. The were debuted during last year’s NCAA Tournament. There’s only one vertical stripe in the back.

  • Trurologist | February 1, 2010 at 9:06 am |

    Re: Paul Brandt’s ENOB (Eighth Note on Back)

    Heather Liscano is the Flames usual anthem singer, and her Jersey displays a similar note.

    Photo here.

  • Ry Co 40 | February 1, 2010 at 9:08 am |

    klaatu barada nikto!

    http://images.google...

  • FormerDirtDart | February 1, 2010 at 9:11 am |

    This is definitely from some bad “Twilight Zone” nightmare
    http://images.google...

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment=”375380″]klaatu barada n… necktie? nectar… nickel… it’s an N word… definitely an N word…

    [/quote]

    /fixed that for ya

  • Todd | February 1, 2010 at 9:14 am |

    The purple Lego story immediately reminded me of Betty not being included in bottles of Flintstones vitamins for over 20 years. After what was apparently a huge grassroots campaign, and a Bayer telephone poll (not to mention a mildly successful Florida band called Betty’s Not a Vitamin), Barney’s main squeeze was added to the vitamin lineup in 1995, according to Wikipedia.

  • Jared B Camden | February 1, 2010 at 9:31 am |

    I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.

  • Keith | February 1, 2010 at 9:43 am |

    “And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.

  • ScottyM | February 1, 2010 at 10:01 am |

    Take a closer look at Johnny U’s teammates wearing heather grey shirts.

    LOL at the Chargers helmet reproduction!

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”375382″][quote comment=”375380″]klaatu barada n… necktie? nectar… nickel… it’s an N word… definitely an N word…

    [/quote]

    /fixed that for ya[/quote]

    and this, this exact thing, is why I am a uniwatcher.

  • JimWa | February 1, 2010 at 10:03 am |

    The WNVA logo … if you’re going to copy something, at least take an extra 2 minutes to copy it right …

    http://thewnva.com/w...

    The transition from blue to red – one line down the center.

    What a difference in professionalism when you follow the lines of the figure!!!

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...

  • Paul Lukas | February 1, 2010 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way!

  • matt in cleveland | February 1, 2010 at 10:04 am |

    had to watch the browns video twice to see the marker guys was to caught up in the stadium itself god i miss that place for football

  • Teebz | February 1, 2010 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”375375″]In regards to the pic in the ticker about the goalie for the Florida Everglades, I saw the Everglades play the South Carolina Stingrays on New Year’s Eve in Charleston, SC, and I’m fairly certain the Everglades goalie had on those same pants then, but I can’t find a picture as of yet. In talking to a friend that works for the Stingrays, I found out that both goalies in that game had just been called up and been with their teams for less than 24 hours, so I guess he was still wearing the pants from his old team. But it seems weird that they don’t have the guy some new pants by now…..[/quote]

    Chris Beckford-Tseu is wearing his Rochester Americans pants. He played with Rochester in the AHL this season before being sent down to the ECHL.

  • Johnny O | February 1, 2010 at 10:12 am |

    Anyone have a Super Bowl XLIV game program yet? I only ask because they will unveil next years logo in this issue. Any help would be awesome.

    In other news, I will be in bed all day recovering from the major disappointment that was the Brewers Winter Warm Up yesterday. The only thing that was even remotely cool was having some of the old timers returning in their era-centric uniforms (love the pullovers):

    http://s147.photobuc...

    If they are going to release a new road uni, wouldn’t yesterday in front of 10,000+ fans have been a great time? *grrrrr* Pitchers and catchers report soon, so better make it quick.

  • leon | February 1, 2010 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”375380″]klaatu barada nikto!

    http://images.google...

    Indeed

    http://www.klaatu.or...

  • Mark K | February 1, 2010 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”375373″]Kelso was also the last player on the Bills to keep the second stripe on his sleeve – everyone else had cut them after the first stripe.[/quote]
    Scott Norwood also had the double stripe- see any “wide right” image.

  • Adam | February 1, 2010 at 10:25 am |

    Old NFL logo on the back of the Sir Saint hat.

  • Mark K | February 1, 2010 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    It’s definitely an American flag.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”375395″]Old NFL logo on the back of the Sir Saint hat.[/quote]

    throwback

  • marc | February 1, 2010 at 10:33 am |

    re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.

  • FormerDirtDart | February 1, 2010 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”375388″]The WNVA logo … if you’re going to copy something, at least take an extra 2 minutes to copy it right …

    http://thewnva.com/w...

    The transition from blue to red – one line down the center.

    What a difference in professionalism when you follow the lines of the figure!!!

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...
    like this?
    http://www.neovenato...

  • JimWa | February 1, 2010 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”375399″][quote comment=”375388″]The WNVA logo … if you’re going to copy something, at least take an extra 2 minutes to copy it right …

    http://thewnva.com/w...

    The transition from blue to red – one line down the center.

    What a difference in professionalism when you follow the lines of the figure!!!

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...
    like this?
    http://www.neovenato...

    Now THAT’S a work of arrrrrrrrt!

  • Wolverine2Blazers | February 1, 2010 at 10:36 am |

    Dont have enought time to read all the comments before I have to scurry off to class but those vertial stipe socks that MSU is wearing is part of the System of Dress I believe. We (lil D2 Valdosta State) just got some ‘cuse-like SoD this year and i noticed some of our guys wearing the same socks cept with a red stripe. I’ll find a pic and post it this afternoon unless someone beats me to it.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    I am definitely seeing the NFL logo there.

    There is a video here that I can’t watch. Maybe someone else can spot something.
    http://www.bills50.c...

  • FormerDirtDart | February 1, 2010 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”375399″][quote comment=”375388″]The WNVA logo … if you’re going to copy something, at least take an extra 2 minutes to copy it right …

    http://thewnva.com/w...

    The transition from blue to red – one line down the center.

    What a difference in professionalism when you follow the lines of the figure!!!

    http://images.google...

    http://images.google...
    like this?
    http://www.neovenato...
    And of course, given all the Lego talk:
    http://webtvs.files....

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 10:40 am |

    re: Eagles TV numbers on shoulders as first in pros.

    LSU moved ’em to the shoulders for Billy Cannon’s senior season in ’59. That’s about the first time remember seeing them up there on a college team (might be others, but Tigers come to mind first).
    ’58…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    ’59 preseason publicity photo…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    1960 AFL football card, using LSU PR photo from ’59…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    —Ricko

  • Jake | February 1, 2010 at 10:41 am |

    Is the Cowboys Jersey legit…because it says on-field authenitic, but the sizing says XL, and authentics only come in numeric sizing, so if it’s a ripoff that might explain the mixing of NFL logos

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”375406″]Is the Cowboys Jersey legit…because it says on-field authenitic, but the sizing says XL, and authentics only come in numeric sizing, so if it’s a ripoff that might explain the mixing of NFL logos[/quote]

    The “on field” doesn’t really mean anything. I’ve got a Raiders AFL replica jersey purchased from NFLshop.com and it’s got the “on field” on the tags, and it’s sized in letters. It could easily be a replica made from an older stock of jerseys.

  • Wes | February 1, 2010 at 11:05 am |

    …can we see the results / submissions for the Cooperstown Hawkeyes contest…? Please?

  • Graf Zeppelin | February 1, 2010 at 11:09 am |

    As one of the 4 of 5 people in the U.S. who actually watch the Pro Bowl (if one defines “watch” as “have on the TV in the background whilst doing something else”), I have concluded that the week before the Super Bowl is the best time to play it, if it must be played at all. I like this idea and hope the NFL will keep it this way.

  • Jet | February 1, 2010 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    Anyone? Never seen that logo before!

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”375409″]As one of the 4 of 5 people in the U.S. who actually watch the Pro Bowl (if one defines “watch” as “have on the TV in the background whilst doing something else”), I have concluded that the week before the Super Bowl is the best time to play it, if it must be played at all. I like this idea and hope the NFL will keep it this way.[/quote]

    Gotta agree.
    But no need to compel Colts and Saints players (this year) to attend. Let them stay focussed and, c’mon, does the NFL think the Super Bowl won’t get enough attention anyway?

    As to best players not being in the game, so what. The game’s never been all too real, anyway. The Great Hawaiian Afterthought. Baseball’s ASG is only one with any on-field reality. Reggie’s mammoth HR in Detroit wasn’t hit off a pitch lobbed in there for him. And Torii Hunter didn’t loaf on his catch, either. Can bear down in baseball, because it’s a series of one-on-one confrontations (sometimes just between the player and the ball; pitched, hit or thrown), but not involving collisions.

    What the NFL could do (and to my mind, SHOULD do) is use Pro Bowl Week to generate a football version of MLB’s Hot Stove League (or its Winter Meetings). And they sort of did. Lots of talk about who might retire, possible player movement, who needs what in the draft, how players looked in the Senior Bowl, etc., etc. That’s good, pot-stirring fun. And, frankly, saves us from reading and seeing endless fillers and sidebars about the Saints and Colts players’ wives, kids and dogs…or whatever.

    —Ricko

  • Giancarlo | February 1, 2010 at 11:35 am |

    Oh man, that Dolphins yarmulke would go so well with my Hebrew-lettered Dolphins T-shirt. Sometimes the mixing of religion and sports repulses me but at other times it’s just… hysterical.

  • Brett | February 1, 2010 at 11:39 am |

    Damn, those Blue Rock socks are sweet!

  • Jet | February 1, 2010 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”375412″]Oh man, that Dolphins yarmulke would go so well with my Hebrew-lettered Dolphins T-shirt. Sometimes the mixing of religion and sports repulses me but at other times it’s just… hysterical.[/quote]

    So would a Hebrew Dolphins tailgate party include…

    … gefilte fish???

    -Jet

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    You know, it’s funny… we look back at that logo and call it horrible, but had they decided to actually use it, we’d probably be calling it a classic right now. It wasn’t exactly radical at the time, and not all that different from the Bears, Giants, 49ers and Packers. I don’t think the tradition of a blank helmet in Cleveland had really been established yet. The CB logo appeared in the preseason in 1965 – the Browns blankness had only been unique for 2 seasons.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”375415″][quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    You know, it’s funny… we look back at that logo and call it horrible, but had they decided to actually use it, we’d probably be calling it a classic right now. It wasn’t exactly radical at the time, and not all that different from the Bears, Giants, 49ers and Packers. I don’t think the tradition of a blank helmet in Cleveland had really been established yet. The CB logo appeared in the preseason in 1965 – the Browns blankness had only been unique for 2 seasons.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever produced a photo of the Browns actually wearing that logo-ed helmet, preseason or otherwise?

    I truly believe that’s an on-paper only concept. Don’t think it ever saw the field, even in training camp. Don’t think there ever was even a prototype helmet. A photo would have surfaced by now. Somewhere.

    NFL teams weren’t huge into marketing in ’65. But they weren’t without PR departments, either.

    —Ricko

  • Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 11:58 am |

    Adam Sandler needed this uniform (Waco, Texas High School 1938):

    http://www3.familyol...

    And while the patches here are probably pretty sweet, can you imagine what those multi-color stripes on the socks would have looked like in color (Lubbock, Texas High School 1939):

    http://www3.familyol...

    A simple “W” will do (Whatcom High School 1920):

    http://www3.familyol...

    Man….just too much to browse thru here:

    http://www3.familyol...

  • M.Princip | February 1, 2010 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”375416″][quote comment=”375415″][quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    You know, it’s funny… we look back at that logo and call it horrible, but had they decided to actually use it, we’d probably be calling it a classic right now. It wasn’t exactly radical at the time, and not all that different from the Bears, Giants, 49ers and Packers. I don’t think the tradition of a blank helmet in Cleveland had really been established yet. The CB logo appeared in the preseason in 1965 – the Browns blankness had only been unique for 2 seasons.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever produced a photo of the Browns actually wearing that logo-ed helmet, preseason or otherwise?

    I truly believe that’s an on-paper only concept. Don’t think it ever saw the field, even in training camp. Don’t think there ever was even a prototype helmet. A photo would have surfaced by now. Somewhere.

    NFL teams weren’t huge into marketing in ’65. But they weren’t without PR departments, either.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I asked this very same question for possibly another uni research project, and recieved a quick response that the team unanimously took of the decals before playing any games with the CB logo. Helmet Hut confirms this.

  • M.Princip | February 1, 2010 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”375417″]Adam Sandler needed this uniform (Waco, Texas High School 1938):

    http://www3.familyol...

    [/quote]

    Indeeed! *lol*

  • SpfldNate | February 1, 2010 at 12:05 pm |

    A lot of Nike teams wear those socks. I’ve been to several UConn games this year. They wear those Nike socks.

  • joe | February 1, 2010 at 12:12 pm |

    Ponce de Leon park has a football field on it but it runs down 1st base, wouldn’t it make more sense to be on the 3rd base line?

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 12:14 pm |

    re: Browns logo-ed helmets.

    This post is from Feb, 2009 at ChrisCreamer’s site…

    “According to the Browns, the ‘CB’ logo was developed before the ’65 Season. It was placed on the helmets but the players, coaches, etc. removed them before the first Preseason Game. It was rumored that they did see one game: A 1965 Preseason Game vs Green Bay in Cleveland, but photographic evidence shows that this is not true ”

    Even if that stuff about “player opposition” is retro-fiction (and it may be) it also seems entirely possible that someone with the Browns looked around and said, ‘Y’know, we’re now the only team in EITHER league without a logo or graphic of some kind. Maybe that’s more unique than the ‘CB’…and since no one seems to really LOVE it…”

    THAT I could believe. Much more than “the player’s hated it.” In 1965, the reaction to that would have been, “Who gives a shit; wear the goddamn logo.”

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”375418″][quote comment=”375416″][quote comment=”375415″][quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    You know, it’s funny… we look back at that logo and call it horrible, but had they decided to actually use it, we’d probably be calling it a classic right now. It wasn’t exactly radical at the time, and not all that different from the Bears, Giants, 49ers and Packers. I don’t think the tradition of a blank helmet in Cleveland had really been established yet. The CB logo appeared in the preseason in 1965 – the Browns blankness had only been unique for 2 seasons.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever produced a photo of the Browns actually wearing that logo-ed helmet, preseason or otherwise?

    I truly believe that’s an on-paper only concept. Don’t think it ever saw the field, even in training camp. Don’t think there ever was even a prototype helmet. A photo would have surfaced by now. Somewhere.

    NFL teams weren’t huge into marketing in ’65. But they weren’t without PR departments, either.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I asked this very same question for possibly another uni research project, and recieved a quick response that the team unanimously took of the decals before playing any games with the CB logo.

    Helmet Hut confirms this.[/quote]

    So in short:

    NFL: Use this logo.
    Browns: No.
    NFL: Please? It’s gonna be on all the stuff we sell
    Browns: No.
    NFL: …dammit

    I wonder if there’s ever been any talk about a rejected logo curse. NFL Champions in 1964. Rejected logo pre-1965. Championship game loss in 1965…and then never making it to another championship game to this day.

  • leon | February 1, 2010 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”375421″]Ponce de Leon park has a football field on it but it runs down 1st base, wouldn’t it make more sense to be on the 3rd base line?[/quote]

    The 1st base orientation makes more use of covered stands (wild-ass somewhat logical guess).

  • Mako M. | February 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”375396″][quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    It’s definitely an American flag.[/quote]
    It’s a flag

    http://i46.tinypic.c...

  • Keith | February 1, 2010 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”375396″][quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    It’s definitely an American flag.[/quote]

    Nothing “definite” about it. I see the three points of the NFL logo. And the “stripes” are not even red. And they are uneven. Because they are words, not stripes.

  • jdreyfuss | February 1, 2010 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”375384″]I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.[/quote]
    he’s a brownie, a wood elf from irish mythology. i actually like the ‘CB’ logo. i never want them to put it on the players, but i think it would look good as their primary logo, like on the field and stuff.

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”375426″][quote comment=”375396″][quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    It’s definitely an American flag.[/quote]

    Nothing “definite” about it. I see the three points of the NFL logo. And the “stripes” are not even red. And they are uneven. Because they are words, not stripes.[/quote]

    You’re right, I can see the points on the NFL logo when I zoomed in on the pic. So exactly what the heck is it then? The safety warning is on the other side, so what type of text would the NFL possibly need there? Did Davis lose his normal helmet and have to buy a replica or something?

  • JimWa | February 1, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”375424″][quote comment=”375421″]Ponce de Leon park has a football field on it but it runs down 1st base, wouldn’t it make more sense to be on the 3rd base line?[/quote]

    The 1st base orientation makes more use of covered stands (wild-ass somewhat logical guess).[/quote]

    That philosophy only works if you’re more interested in caring for your fans than in having a larger % of sellable seats available.

    There may be more hiding, but what’s with the two light standards? Surely they wouldn’t provide enough light for the entire field! (it’s deja vu all over again)

  • jdreyfuss | February 1, 2010 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”375423″][quote comment=”375418″][quote comment=”375416″][quote comment=”375415″][quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    You know, it’s funny… we look back at that logo and call it horrible, but had they decided to actually use it, we’d probably be calling it a classic right now. It wasn’t exactly radical at the time, and not all that different from the Bears, Giants, 49ers and Packers. I don’t think the tradition of a blank helmet in Cleveland had really been established yet. The CB logo appeared in the preseason in 1965 – the Browns blankness had only been unique for 2 seasons.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever produced a photo of the Browns actually wearing that logo-ed helmet, preseason or otherwise?

    I truly believe that’s an on-paper only concept. Don’t think it ever saw the field, even in training camp. Don’t think there ever was even a prototype helmet. A photo would have surfaced by now. Somewhere.

    NFL teams weren’t huge into marketing in ’65. But they weren’t without PR departments, either.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I asked this very same question for possibly another uni research project, and recieved a quick response that the team unanimously took of the decals before playing any games with the CB logo.

    Helmet Hut confirms this.[/quote]

    So in short:

    NFL: Use this logo.
    Browns: No.
    NFL: Please? It’s gonna be on all the stuff we sell
    Browns: No.
    NFL: …dammit

    I wonder if there’s ever been any talk about a rejected logo curse. NFL Champions in 1964. Rejected logo pre-1965. Championship game loss in 1965…and then never making it to another championship game to this day.[/quote]
    i still think modell had it designed after he scrapped brownie the elf as a logo. i love the blank helmet, but never liked it as a logo for the team. i think the ‘CB’ would look so much better on the field or on the coaches’ chest patches or on the caps, etc.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”375423″][quote comment=”375418″][quote comment=”375416″][quote comment=”375415″][quote comment=”375398″]re: the Hormel trays… what the hell was NFL Properties thinking with that Browns logo? Art Modell HAD to have had something to do with that.[/quote]

    You know, it’s funny… we look back at that logo and call it horrible, but had they decided to actually use it, we’d probably be calling it a classic right now. It wasn’t exactly radical at the time, and not all that different from the Bears, Giants, 49ers and Packers. I don’t think the tradition of a blank helmet in Cleveland had really been established yet. The CB logo appeared in the preseason in 1965 – the Browns blankness had only been unique for 2 seasons.[/quote]

    Has anyone ever produced a photo of the Browns actually wearing that logo-ed helmet, preseason or otherwise?

    I truly believe that’s an on-paper only concept. Don’t think it ever saw the field, even in training camp. Don’t think there ever was even a prototype helmet. A photo would have surfaced by now. Somewhere.

    NFL teams weren’t huge into marketing in ’65. But they weren’t without PR departments, either.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I asked this very same question for possibly another uni research project, and recieved a quick response that the team unanimously took of the decals before playing any games with the CB logo.

    Helmet Hut confirms this.[/quote]

    So in short:

    NFL: Use this logo.
    Browns: No.
    NFL: Please? It’s gonna be on all the stuff we sell
    Browns: No.
    NFL: …dammit

    I wonder if there’s ever been any talk about a rejected logo curse. NFL Champions in 1964. Rejected logo pre-1965. Championship game loss in 1965…and then never making it to another championship game to this day.[/quote]

    There’s an error in your basic assumption. Wouldn’t have been an NFL decision back then, would have been the Browns’ call (things haven’t always been structured the way they are today). I meant the Browns would have told the players to wear the helmets they were issued.

    If it were the NFL’s call, it would have showed up to match the trinkets n’ trash and those illustrations done for the 1965 “how to” books we’ve all seen.

    However (slaps self across cheek), was going to AMEND MY PREVIOUS POST to say…

    Wait a sec. Browns didn’t HAVE plain-sided helmets in seasons prior to ’65. They had those rounded black Charger-style TV numbers. So was more likely…

    “Y’know, that brown ‘CB’ doesn’t look a whole helluva lot different from the numbers. And no one seems to love it. So maybe we should just go blank. We’d be the only team doing that. That’s probably more unique, a better trademark than slapping some nondescript ‘CB’ on there.”

    That, to me, is still far more likely than some kind of “player revolt”, however informal.

    —Ricko

  • Ben Beattie | February 1, 2010 at 12:46 pm |

    I am 95% sure that Ponce De Leon Park is now a Home Depot shopping center. Sad, really.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”375432″]I am 95% sure that Ponce De Leon Park is now a Home Depot shopping center. Sad, really.[/quote]

    So it’s too late to switch the third- and first-baselines?

  • leon | February 1, 2010 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”375429″][quote comment=”375424″][quote comment=”375421″]Ponce de Leon park has a football field on it but it runs down 1st base, wouldn’t it make more sense to be on the 3rd base line?[/quote]

    The 1st base orientation makes more use of covered stands (wild-ass somewhat logical guess).[/quote]

    That philosophy only works if you’re more interested in caring for your fans than in having a larger % of sellable seats available.

    There may be more hiding, but what’s with the two light standards? Surely they wouldn’t provide enough light for the entire field! (it’s deja vu all over again)[/quote]

    I thought perhaps they put in some “temporary” bleachers directly across from the 1st base line. I know this was done in some major league baseball parks for football back in the day (griffith stadium comes to mind). Or maybe it’s the orientation of the sun or field drainage or proximity to bathrooms or who the hell knows?
    :)

  • Josh | February 1, 2010 at 12:49 pm |

    The NFL Network may have outdrawn their own Pro Bowl telecast last night. Thats what they get for showing “Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders” for an hour and a half.

    I know they had my household tuned in.

  • Beats in Buffalo | February 1, 2010 at 12:55 pm |

    So playing the Pro Bowl a week before the Super Bowl didn’t help and playing it a week after doesn’t help…why not try playing the game on Super Bowl Sunday with an earlier start time maybe noon eastern. NFL fans watch hours upon hours of pre-game coverage Super Sunday anyway so it seems playing any kind of football during that time frame is a can’t miss.

    Play the game at a separate site then the Super Bowl (perhaps a smaller college stadium in the same area as the Super Bowl so players in the Pro Bowl could attend the Super Bowl if they wanted). Make the crowd smaller to increase the intensity and even throw in some gimmcks, make it more about fun than a “football game”, bands and performances between quarters, let the players even participate the ultimate “look at me moment”, more of an experience than a game. The problem of players playing in the Super Bowl and thus not the Pro Bowl will still exist but again with every TV in America watching pre-game “analysis” for 8 hours prior to the game, it could only help ratings.

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”375431″]

    There’s an error in your basic assumption. Wouldn’t have been an NFL decision back then, would have been the Browns’ call (things haven’t always been structured the way they are today). I meant the Browns would have told the players to wear the helmets they were issued.

    If it were the NFL’s call, it would have showed up to match the trinkets n’ trash and those illustrations done for the 1965 “how to” books we’ve all seen.

    However (slaps self across cheek), was going to AMEND MY PREVIOUS POST to say…

    Wait a sec. Browns didn’t HAVE plain-sided helmets in seasons prior to ’65. They had those rounded black Charger-style TV numbers. So was more likely…

    “Y’know, that brown ‘CB’ doesn’t look a whole helluva lot different from the numbers. And no one seems to love it. So maybe we should just go blank. We’d be the only team doing that. That’s probably more unique, a better trademark than slapping some nondescript ‘CB’ on there.”

    That, to me, is still far more likely than some kind of “player revolt”, however informal.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Obviously it wasn’t the NFL’s decision or it would have happened… but it still could have been their idea. If it was purely a team thing, why would there be so many things made in that era that used that logo? Especially items featuring all of the NFL teams.

    …and assuming that The Helmet Project website is accurate, the numbers were gone in 1961, so they were blank for 4 seasons prior to the CB concept, and only unique in that aspect for 2 seasons, as 1963 was the first full season for the Steelers (and Raiders if we count the AFL and just refer to “pro football”) using a logo.

    Dammit man, you’re the one who was alive back then, you’re supposed to know this stuff so we aren’t making guesses.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”375428″][quote comment=”375426″][quote comment=”375396″][quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    It’s definitely an American flag.[/quote]

    Nothing “definite” about it. I see the three points of the NFL logo. And the “stripes” are not even red. And they are uneven. Because they are words, not stripes.[/quote]

    You’re right, I can see the points on the NFL logo when I zoomed in on the pic. So exactly what the heck is it then? The safety warning is on the other side, so what type of text would the NFL possibly need there? Did Davis lose his normal helmet and have to buy a replica or something?[/quote]

    Page 18 here shows a flag..
    http://sportsillustr...

    page 33 here also shows a flag
    http://sportsillustr...

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”375436″]So playing the Pro Bowl a week before the Super Bowl didn’t help and playing it a week after doesn’t help…why not try playing the game on Super Bowl Sunday with an earlier start time maybe noon eastern. NFL fans watch hours upon hours of pre-game coverage Super Sunday anyway so it seems playing any kind of football during that time frame is a can’t miss.

    Play the game at a separate site then the Super Bowl (perhaps a smaller college stadium in the same area as the Super Bowl so players in the Pro Bowl could attend the Super Bowl if they wanted). Make the crowd smaller to increase the intensity and even throw in some gimmcks, make it more about fun than a “football game”, bands and performances between quarters, let the players even participate the ultimate “look at me moment”, more of an experience than a game. The problem of players playing in the Super Bowl and thus not the Pro Bowl will still exist but again with every TV in America watching pre-game “analysis” for 8 hours prior to the game, it could only help ratings.[/quote]

    That’d work for me. Hell I’d rather watch a high school scrimmage over the 8 hours of pointless analysis. Hello, we’ve been watching all season, we know what each team is capable of, shut up and show something worth watching before the game.

  • Kaptain K | February 1, 2010 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”375427″][quote comment=”375384″]I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.[/quote]
    he’s a brownie, a wood elf from irish mythology. i actually like the ‘CB’ logo. i never want them to put it on the players, but i think it would look good as their primary logo, like on the field and stuff.[/quote]

    I remember that ‘CB’ logo being on the Browns’ gumball helmets in the late sixties; my classmates in elementary school and I were like “What the hell is THAT for?”

    Wish I still had my collection.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”375439″][quote comment=”375436″]So playing the Pro Bowl a week before the Super Bowl didn’t help and playing it a week after doesn’t help…why not try playing the game on Super Bowl Sunday with an earlier start time maybe noon eastern. NFL fans watch hours upon hours of pre-game coverage Super Sunday anyway so it seems playing any kind of football during that time frame is a can’t miss.

    Play the game at a separate site then the Super Bowl (perhaps a smaller college stadium in the same area as the Super Bowl so players in the Pro Bowl could attend the Super Bowl if they wanted). Make the crowd smaller to increase the intensity and even throw in some gimmcks, make it more about fun than a “football game”, bands and performances between quarters, let the players even participate the ultimate “look at me moment”, more of an experience than a game. The problem of players playing in the Super Bowl and thus not the Pro Bowl will still exist but again with every TV in America watching pre-game “analysis” for 8 hours prior to the game, it could only help ratings.[/quote]

    That’d work for me. Hell I’d rather watch a high school scrimmage over the 8 hours of pointless analysis. Hello, we’ve been watching all season, we know what each team is capable of, shut up and show something worth watching before the game.[/quote]

    WHAT!?? Generic Host, Generic Ex-Coach 1, Generic Ex-player/analyst, Generic Outspoken ex-player, Generic Longtime broadcaster/ex-coach/player no one remembers playing, and generic borderline comedian just don’t cut it for you? Well let’s throw in Generic ex-coach 2 and generic outspoken/marginal player 2!

  • Tick | February 1, 2010 at 1:14 pm |

    I like the old alternate Blue Rock better.

    http://waiversharks....

    I don’t get what celery has to do with Blue Rock baseball.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 1:15 pm |

    “Dammit man, you’re the one who was alive back then, you’re supposed to know this stuff so we aren’t making guesses.”

    That’s kind of my point. There never was a big deal about it. Never showed up in photos or stories in the weekly pubs (and I subscribed to the two biggest)…just on fan itemd and in a book with illustrations only, all prepared prior to the season. So it looked like they designed the logo—them, not the NFL, which would have been the case—filed the change with the league, but then just changed their minds…obviously fairly early-on because that other stuff had to have been produced well in advance.

    And you’re right. I just checked. I was thinking they’d kept the helmet TVs once they started them, but they were gone for the ’64 title game, for sure

    So I’ll stick to something akin to my last thought. The logo simply wasn’t striking enough. “That ‘CB’ kinda looks like we just went back to numbers…and the numbers look crooked, to boot. If it isn’t really working, let’s just lose the damn thing and make the simple orange helmet our trademark. Has been for years, anyway.”

    —Ricko

  • leon | February 1, 2010 at 1:15 pm |

    There is an NHL game on SupersundaY that has potential. This could fill the 12-3 time slot in lieu of endless prattle. Just sayin…

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”375444″]There is an NHL game on SupersundaY that has potential. This could fill the 12-3 time slot in lieu of endless prattle. Just sayin…[/quote]

    Hey, c’mon, without “endless prattle” how would ESPN fill its schedule?

    How would sports talk radio survive?

    Jeez, leon, no need to go all un-American on us.

    —Ricko

  • Trurologist | February 1, 2010 at 1:26 pm |

    Uni-related fallout tidbit from yesterday’s NHL moves:

    Toronto Star reporting Leafs’ Garnet Exelby has given up his #3 to Dion Phaneuf. No word of anything going the other way as compensation, but seeing as Exelby has demanded a trade out of Toronto, I can’t imagine he had any leverage.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm |

    4 Letter is tooting the hell out of it’s own horn regarding pro bowl ratings. apparently it got decent ratings. ugh.

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”375439″][quote comment=”375436″]So playing the Pro Bowl a week before the Super Bowl didn’t help and playing it a week after doesn’t help…why not try playing the game on Super Bowl Sunday with an earlier start time maybe noon eastern. NFL fans watch hours upon hours of pre-game coverage Super Sunday anyway so it seems playing any kind of football during that time frame is a can’t miss.

    Play the game at a separate site then the Super Bowl (perhaps a smaller college stadium in the same area as the Super Bowl so players in the Pro Bowl could attend the Super Bowl if they wanted). Make the crowd smaller to increase the intensity and even throw in some gimmcks, make it more about fun than a “football game”, bands and performances between quarters, let the players even participate the ultimate “look at me moment”, more of an experience than a game. The problem of players playing in the Super Bowl and thus not the Pro Bowl will still exist but again with every TV in America watching pre-game “analysis” for 8 hours prior to the game, it could only help ratings.[/quote]

    That’d work for me. Hell I’d rather watch a high school scrimmage over the 8 hours of pointless analysis. Hello, we’ve been watching all season, we know what each team is capable of, shut up and show something worth watching before the game.[/quote]

    Works for me, too.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 1:39 pm |
  • chance michaels | February 1, 2010 at 1:40 pm |

    We don’t know for sure that the NFL was driving the move towards a Cleveland Browns helmet logo, but we do know that it was designed by the League’s “Creative Services” division.

    So it doesn’t seem terribly unlikely that the NFL was by this point starting to insert itself into the branding of teams.

  • pk | February 1, 2010 at 1:40 pm |

    SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Can’t be – there’s no image of Jerry Jones on there…

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    I like it if it is.. :-D

  • pk | February 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm |

    Speaking of SB Logo’s:

    Paul, has there ever been another instance other than SB 36 where the logo was changed?

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”375450″]We don’t know for sure that the NFL was driving the move towards a Cleveland Browns helmet logo, but we do know that it was designed by the League’s “Creative Services” division.

    So it doesn’t seem terribly unlikely that the NFL was by this point starting to insert itself into the branding of teams.[/quote]

    They do the black helmet for the Saints a few years later, too?

    Just saying, despite what it might seem, the league’s Properties and image mavens weren’t quite the driving force in 1965 that they are today. “Creative Services” may have designed the “CB”, but who initiated it, the league or the Browns? We may never know. But considering it never saw the light of day on a helmet, we can assume the Browns has some clout in the deal.

    Just different back then. Teams had more…if not automony, then certainly more say-so.

    (Hell, they probably just told the league the decals were faulty and kept falling off, LOL. “Want new ones?” “Nah, forget it; maybe next year.”)

    —Ricko

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 1:55 pm |

    couldn’t help but notice that the guy leading the cheers in iceball was wearing a “tonight we bowl” toque. i bought the same at the bryant-lake bowl, jth had some interesting idears for modifications too.

  • joe | February 1, 2010 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”375434″][quote comment=”375429″][quote comment=”375424″][quote comment=”375421″]Ponce de Leon park has a football field on it but it runs down 1st base, wouldn’t it make more sense to be on the 3rd base line?[/quote]

    The 1st base orientation makes more use of covered stands (wild-ass somewhat logical guess).[/quote]

    That philosophy only works if you’re more interested in caring for your fans than in having a larger % of sellable seats available.

    There may be more hiding, but what’s with the two light standards? Surely they wouldn’t provide enough light for the entire field! (it’s deja vu all over again)[/quote]

    I thought perhaps they put in some “temporary” bleachers directly across from the 1st base line. I know this was done in some major league baseball parks for football back in the day (griffith stadium comes to mind). Or maybe it’s the orientation of the sun or field drainage or proximity to bathrooms or who the hell knows?
    :)[/quote]
    that would work but even in that case it would make more sense to go down the other baseline, the field would just fit better. no running into the end walls (a la Wrigley for football).

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.

  • Bob Loblaw | February 1, 2010 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”375371″]Yes, the Pro Bowl is stupid.

    Yes, the uniforms sucked. Again.

    But I almost want to convert to Judaism just for sports-themed yamulkes. Is that wrong? As an Angels fan, the whole halo thing is rife with possibility…[/quote]
    i’m pretty sure you could get some type of ‘dispensation’ from your local priest/pastor to wear a special Angel’s halo designed yamulkle if only for games.

    But you probably have to present a Rabbi endorsed permission slip to get that dispensation.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”375457″]couldn’t help but notice that the guy leading the cheers in iceball was wearing a “tonight we bowl” toque. i bought the same at the bryant-lake bowl, jth had some interesting idears for modifications too.[/quote]

    You bought one? Great. (rpm and JTH were pondering the gear at Bryant-Lake Bowl when I said good-bye to them Deep Freeze Weekend. I was pondering the waitress and noticing that—drat—she was wearing a wedding ring.)

    Hmmm…come to think of it, Paul didn’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.
    (Well, it WAS about the only time all weekend he wasn’t working on something)

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”375461″][quote comment=”375457″]couldn’t help but notice that the guy leading the cheers in iceball was wearing a “tonight we bowl” toque. i bought the same at the bryant-lake bowl, jth had some interesting idears for modifications too.[/quote]

    I was pondering the waitress and noticing that—drat—she was wearing a wedding ring.)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I am glad Ricko has his priorities straight.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”375462″][quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.[/quote]

    Here – http://farm3.static....

    I agree on SB 50

  • JimWa | February 1, 2010 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”375462″][quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.[/quote]

    Great question! Let me be first to speculate the design (without having graphic arts programs at my disposal):

    Top Line (in small letters):
    Superbowl L
    Second line (in smaller letters):
    Celebrating
    Third line (huge numbers):
    50
    fourth line (back to the small #s):
    Years of Championships

    or they could just hold the game at Wrigley Field …

    http://farm4.static....

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”375464″]

    Here – http://farm3.static....

    I agree on SB 50[/quote]

    Fair enough. Looks like you need to update that though, you’ve got the wrong NFL shield. :D

  • Kerry P | February 1, 2010 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”375392″]Anyone have a Super Bowl XLIV game program yet? I only ask because they will unveil next years logo in this issue. Any help would be awesome.[/quote]
    They had copies of the SB44 program in a local sporting good shop here in Louisiana. I flipped through it, page by page but did not see a logo for SB45. All I saw was a generic blue square with “Super Bowl XLV” in white lettering. I was highly disappointed I couldn’t provide any “scoop” to UniWatch.

    As far as Sir Saint, the team has been pushing him hard the last 2 years. The large tarp featuring the logo in the Superdome was there last year. I’ve limited most of my Saints merchandise purchases to those items featuring Sir Saint over the last year or so. I have a few shirts (both long and short sleeved), a sweatshirt and yard flag with him on it. Also a magnet for the fridge.

  • Teebz | February 1, 2010 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”375446″]Uni-related fallout tidbit from yesterday’s NHL moves:

    Toronto Star reporting Leafs’ Garnet Exelby has given up his #3 to Dion Phaneuf. No word of anything going the other way as compensation, but seeing as Exelby has demanded a trade out of Toronto, I can’t imagine he had any leverage.[/quote]

    Exelby is taking #7 according to TSN’s Bob McKenzie. No word on compensation for Exelby.

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”375465″][quote comment=”375462″][quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.[/quote]

    Great question! Let me be first to speculate the design (without having graphic arts programs at my disposal):

    Top Line (in small letters):
    Superbowl L
    Second line (in smaller letters):
    Celebrating
    Third line (huge numbers):
    50
    fourth line (back to the small #s):
    Years of Championships

    or they could just hold the game at Wrigley Field …

    http://farm4.static....

    Sadly enough as soon as I posted it, I had a thought for a logo:

    S
    U
    P
    E
    R
    B O W L

    Outline the whole thing in white, one word blue letters, one word red.

  • Kev29 | February 1, 2010 at 2:16 pm |

    Yeah, the Pro Bowl did pretty well on ESPN last night.

    Safe Bet: Look For NFL Pro Bowl To Air Before Super Bowl Again In 2011

    Based on early metered market numbers, last night’s Pro Bowl in Miami on ESPN the week before the Super Bowl averaged a 7.9 household rating. That’s up 39% versus last year’s 5.7 household rating on NBC when the game aired the week after the Super Bowl.

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 2:17 pm |

    ricko~
    the mittens were tempting, but i wear the hat for the bowling league i “run” on thursday nights on the north side.

    and it wasn’t turkey bowling on a frozen minnesota surface, like everything else you maniacs do up there. good golly you are a crazy bunch. actually i did turkey bowl once on the other side of the river from prairie du chien at some civic festival where there must have been a requirement that you had to finish a bottle of jack by noon. good times.

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”375466″][quote comment=”375464″]

    Here – http://farm3.static....

    I agree on SB 50[/quote]

    Fair enough. Looks like you need to update that though, you’ve got the wrong NFL shield. :D[/quote]

    Lol! I actually was thinking of having it redone with the white helmet but I dunno how it would turn out..

  • odessa steps magazin | February 1, 2010 at 2:29 pm |

    More people probably watched the PBA, because ESPN had Simmons on as one of the commentators.

  • Kerry P | February 1, 2010 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]
    I would have to say that this isn’t a real logo for a few reasons. Specifically, it doesn’t match up with the logos over the past years since the “in house” design process started. Specifically since Super Bowl XLI in 2007 and on. Look at the logos for those past games:
    XLI, XLII, <a href="http://www.petergree..., XLIV.

    All 4 have a red and blue star with the red star representing the AFC and the blue, the NFC. This logo uses a white and red star.

    The logo also uses the date “2.4.2011” – which is inconsistent with the format used since 2007. If they keep with the same format, the logo should read “02.04.11”.

    Finally, the game IS being played in Arlington, however the games are now being referred to by the region they’re in rather than the city.

    Super Bowl XLI – South Florida
    Super Bowl XLII – Arizona
    Super Bowl XLIII – Tampa Bay
    Super Bowl XLIV – South Florida

    Super Bowl XLV is being hosted by North Texas, so the logo would reflect that.

    There’s my argument that this is just a logo created by a fan or designer. I don’t think this is the real logo.

  • Kerry P | February 1, 2010 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”375474″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]
    I would have to say that this isn’t a real logo for a few reasons. Specifically, it doesn’t match up with the logos over the past years since the “in house” design process started. Specifically since Super Bowl XLI in 2007 and on. Look at the logos for those past games:
    XLI, XLII, <a href=”http://www.petergreenberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/super-bowl-logo.jpg”>XLIII, XLIV.

    All 4 have a red and blue star with the red star representing the AFC and the blue, the NFC. This logo uses a white and red star.

    The logo also uses the date “2.4.2011” – which is inconsistent with the format used since 2007. If they keep with the same format, the logo should read “02.04.11”.

    Finally, the game IS being played in Arlington, however the games are now being referred to by the region they’re in rather than the city.

    Super Bowl XLI – South Florida
    Super Bowl XLII – Arizona
    Super Bowl XLIII – Tampa Bay
    Super Bowl XLIV – South Florida

    Super Bowl XLV is being hosted by North Texas, so the logo would reflect that.

    There’s my argument that this is just a logo created by a fan or designer. I don’t think this is the real logo.[/quote]

  • Kerry P | February 1, 2010 at 2:39 pm |

    Stupid quotes are killing me, I’ve fixed the one link not working:
    [quote comment=”375475″]
    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]
    I would have to say that this isn’t a real logo for a few reasons. Specifically, it doesn’t match up with the logos over the past years since the “in house” design process started. Specifically since Super Bowl XLI in 2007 and on. Look at the logos for those past games:
    XLI, XLII, XLIII, XLIV.[/quote]

  • Ry Co 40 | February 1, 2010 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”375469″][quote comment=”375465″][quote comment=”375462″][quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.[/quote]

    Great question! Let me be first to speculate the design (without having graphic arts programs at my disposal):

    Top Line (in small letters):
    Superbowl L
    Second line (in smaller letters):
    Celebrating
    Third line (huge numbers):
    50
    fourth line (back to the small #s):
    Years of Championships

    or they could just hold the game at Wrigley Field …

    http://farm4.static....

    Sadly enough as soon as I posted it, I had a thought for a logo:

    S
    U
    P
    E
    R
    B O W L

    Outline the whole thing in white, one word blue letters, one word red.[/quote]

    lol:

    “the superb bowl”!!!

  • LI Phil | February 1, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”375457″]”tonight we bowl”.[/quote]

    i ‘member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=”375461″]Paul didn’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”375476″]Stupid quotes are killing me, I’ve fixed the one link not working:
    [quote comment=”375475″]
    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]
    I would have to say that this isn’t a real logo for a few reasons. Specifically, it doesn’t match up with the logos over the past years since the “in house” design process started. Specifically since Super Bowl XLI in 2007 and on. Look at the logos for those past games:
    XLI, XLII, XLIII, XLIV.[/quote][/quote]

    Also, unlike virtually all its predecessors, it looks just a tad too much like one particular team’s helmet logo, don’t you think?

    Although I’m sure Jonesy, the entire Metroplex and all who buy into the “America’s Team” malarkey would love it.

    —Ricko

  • GeorgiaJoe | February 1, 2010 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”375458″][quote comment=”375434″][quote comment=”375429″][quote comment=”375424″][quote comment=”375421″]Ponce de Leon park has a football field on it but it runs down 1st base, wouldn’t it make more sense to be on the 3rd base line?[/quote]

    The 1st base orientation makes more use of covered stands (wild-ass somewhat logical guess).[/quote]

    That philosophy only works if you’re more interested in caring for your fans than in having a larger % of sellable seats available.

    There may be more hiding, but what’s with the two light standards? Surely they wouldn’t provide enough light for the entire field! (it’s deja vu all over again)[/quote]

    I thought perhaps they put in some “temporary” bleachers directly across from the 1st base line. I know this was done in some major league baseball parks for football back in the day (griffith stadium comes to mind). Or maybe it’s the orientation of the sun or field drainage or proximity to bathrooms or who the hell knows?
    :)[/quote]
    that would work but even in that case it would make more sense to go down the other baseline, the field would just fit better. no running into the end walls (a la Wrigley for football).[/quote]

    Not sure if it’s a Home Depot, but it is definitely a shopping center now. Interestingly, the Magnolia tree that was once in play in center field (Eddie Matthews, Hank Aaron, and I believe the Mick all lodged HRs in its branches) remains unharmed. But please, don’t pronounce it like the explorer; it’s Ponce duh-lee-on when talking about the park or the road that is its namesame.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”375478″][quote comment=”375457″]”tonight we bowl”.[/quote]

    i ‘member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=”375461″]Paul didn’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    That’s because Marshall appropriately raises his ball to the bowling gods before settling into the pre-roll position.

    Very Mayan.

    Or maybe from “The Lion King”.

    Not sure.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 2:52 pm |

    “it’s Ponce duh-lee-on”

    That anything like a “post-duh-leon”?

    —Ricko

  • mike 2 | February 1, 2010 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”375468″][quote comment=”375446″]Uni-related fallout tidbit from yesterday’s NHL moves:

    Toronto Star reporting Leafs’ Garnet Exelby has given up his #3 to Dion Phaneuf. No word of anything going the other way as compensation, but seeing as Exelby has demanded a trade out of Toronto, I can’t imagine he had any leverage.[/quote]

    Exelby is taking #7 according to TSN’s Bob McKenzie. No word on compensation for Exelby.[/quote]

    He gets one of Phaneuf’s old girlfriends

  • GeorgiaJoe | February 1, 2010 at 3:02 pm |

    Actually only two players launched one into the tree, Matthews and Babe Ruth (during an exhibition.) The shopping center includes a Borders, Home Depot and Whole Foods. “Big Yellow Taxi”, anyone?

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”375478″][quote comment=”375457″]”tonight we bowl”.[/quote]

    i ‘member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=”375461″]Paul didn’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    i was not going to bring up the 285~233 count because my score was a fluke, i can admit that. those were some friendly lanes, i think i got a strike when i hit the 4 pin for corn’s sake. we can rematch this summer, and you guys will have me for lunch.

  • GeorgiaJoe | February 1, 2010 at 3:11 pm |

    nice pic of the outfield and a crackers uni, not sure about the handbag (is it a purse or just something the uniform was delivered in?) but love the lettering

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”375485″][quote comment=”375478″][quote comment=”375457″]”tonight we bowl”.[/quote]

    i ‘member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=”375461″]Paul didn’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    i was not going to bring up the 285~233 count because my score was a fluke, i can admit that. those were some friendly lanes, i think i got a strike when i hit the 4 pin for corn’s sake. we can rematch this summer, and you guys will have me for lunch.[/quote]

    not to mention it will be on your home lanes. do i get a handicap for having a pineapple for a partner?

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 3:12 pm |

    Forgot. Was going to mention Gopher basketball team wore gold last night at Ohio State.
    http://www.startribu...
    That means they’ve worn gold both at home and on the road this season.

    —Ricko

  • GeorgiaJoe | February 1, 2010 at 3:14 pm |

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    sorry, let me try the link again

  • Jet | February 1, 2010 at 3:24 pm |

    I want a pair of those Blue Rocks socks and I want it NOW.

  • pk | February 1, 2010 at 3:26 pm |

    [/quote]

    He gets one of Phaneuf’s old girlfriends[/quote]

    Shhh…a comment like that can get you thrown off a team!!

  • MPowers1634 | February 1, 2010 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”375427″][quote comment=”375384″]I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.[/quote]
    he’s a brownie, a wood elf from irish mythology. i actually like the ‘CB’ logo. i never want them to put it on the players, but i think it would look good as their primary logo, like on the field and stuff.[/quote]

    I must be in the minority, but I have always LOVED the brownie logo.

  • MPowers1634 | February 1, 2010 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=\”375481\”][quote comment=\”375478\”][quote comment=\”375457\”]\”tonight we bowl\”.[/quote]

    i \’member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=\”375461\”]Paul didn\’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    That\’s because Marshall appropriately raises his ball to the bowling gods before settling into the pre-roll position.

    Very Mayan.

    Or maybe from \”The Lion King\”.

    Not sure.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Nope, he is just emulating his hero:

    http://ruggerjay.typ...

    Big Ern McCracken

  • John | February 1, 2010 at 3:39 pm |

    Cool article regarding Team USA’s Ryan Miller’s goalie mask here:
    http://www.thetimesh...

  • LI Phil | February 1, 2010 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”375487″]
    not to mention it will be on your home lanes. do i get a handicap for having a pineapple for a partner?[/quote]

    i have no home lanes

    and with your style, i’d imagine you’ll negate any home lane advantage the brooklyn contingent may have

  • Hott Rodd | February 1, 2010 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”375493″][quote comment=\”375481\”][quote comment=\”375478\”][quote comment=\”375457\”]\”tonight we bowl\”.[/quote]

    i \’member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=\”375461\”]Paul didn\’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    That\’s because Marshall appropriately raises his ball to the bowling gods before settling into the pre-roll position.

    Very Mayan.

    Or maybe from \”The Lion King\”.

    Not sure.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Nope, he is just emulating his hero:

    http://ruggerjay.typ...

    Big Ern McCracken[/quote]

    So who got Munsoned then?

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”375493″][quote comment=\”375481\”][quote comment=\”375478\”][quote comment=\”375457\”]\”tonight we bowl\”.[/quote]

    i \’member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=\”375461\”]Paul didn\’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    That\’s because Marshall appropriately raises his ball to the bowling gods before settling into the pre-roll position.

    Very Mayan.

    Or maybe from \”The Lion King\”.

    Not sure.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Nope, he is just emulating his hero:

    http://ruggerjay.typ...

    Big Ern McCracken[/quote]

    Marshall’s more reverent than showy.
    More contemplative than crowd-pleasing
    (the “crowd” being Traxel, his buddy Aaron and me).

    Sort of like, next we’ll sacrifice a virgin. If we can find one in a bowling alley, that is.

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | February 1, 2010 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”375497″][quote comment=”375493″][quote comment=\”375481\”][quote comment=\”375478\”][quote comment=\”375457\”]\”tonight we bowl\”.[/quote]

    i \’member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=\”375461\”]Paul didn\’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    That\’s because Marshall appropriately raises his ball to the bowling gods before settling into the pre-roll position.

    Very Mayan.

    Or maybe from \”The Lion King\”.

    Not sure.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Nope, he is just emulating his hero:

    http://ruggerjay.typ...

    Big Ern McCracken[/quote]

    Marshall’s more reverent than showy.
    More contemplative than crowd-pleasing
    (the “crowd” being Traxel, his buddy Aaron and me).

    Sort of like, next we’ll sacrifice a virgin. If we can find one in a bowling alley, that is.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    It’s gonna be tough to get Phil BACK in Minny, dontcha think?!

  • Justin Funderburk | February 1, 2010 at 4:09 pm |

    In regards to the different brand white cleats.

    Kickers tend to use their own preferred soccer cleat to kick in. The cleat this kicker is wearing looks like a white version of the most popular kicking cleat, the Adidas Copa Mundial. Its a kangaroo-leather soccer cleat (no spike on the very front) that is very common still today.

    What is interesting is that the adidas stripes were not whited out. I know this is the norm nowadays with paranoid sponsors (i.e. the Under Armour colleges of Maryland and South Carolina, whose kickers have worn Copa Mundials in the past, have made the kickers black out the stripes since its not Under Armour)

  • Bob Loblaw | February 1, 2010 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”375481″][quote comment=”375478″][quote comment=”375457″]”tonight we bowl”.[/quote]

    i ‘member those days

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~[quote comment=”375461″]Paul didn’t mention the Byrant-Lake Bowl in either his account here at UW or on Page Two.

    Probably it was just too personal a moment for him.[/quote]

    prolly cuz marshall kicked all of our asses

    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]

    That’s because Marshall appropriately raises his ball to the bowling gods before settling into the pre-roll position.

    Very Mayan.

    Or maybe from “The Lion King”.

    Not sure.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That’s more Ernie McCracken than Mayan diety. http://www.godchecke...

  • Bob Loblaw | February 1, 2010 at 4:14 pm |

    ugh… I think I’ve been Munson’d by Powers. :(

  • JGoodrich | February 1, 2010 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=\”375451\”]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can\’t Confirm[/quote]

    Might that be the proposed logo from the host committee – like this one:

    http://www.our2012sb...

    Since XLVI will be in Indianapolis proper, it will be interesting to see if gets changed to \”Central Indiana\” at some point.

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”375457″]couldn’t help but notice that the guy leading the cheers in iceball was wearing a “tonight we bowl” toque. i bought the same at the bryant-lake bowl, jth had some interesting idears for modifications too.[/quote]
    Speaking of which, my kids are learning cross-stitch or needlepoint or something like that from their great-grandmother.

    So if you need to outsource that project to some cheap child labor, you know where to go.

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”375478″]
    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]
    Pretty proud of that, huh? You got me by what, a whole 7 pins?

  • Teebz | February 1, 2010 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”375503″][quote comment=”375457″]couldn’t help but notice that the guy leading the cheers in iceball was wearing a “tonight we bowl” toque. i bought the same at the bryant-lake bowl, jth had some interesting idears for modifications too.[/quote]
    Speaking of which, my kids are learning cross-stitch or needlepoint or something like that from their great-grandmother.

    So if you need to outsource that project to some cheap child labor, you know where to go.[/quote]

    Do they have NHL licensing? I need a few names and numbers sewn on a few jerseys. LOL

  • leon | February 1, 2010 at 4:38 pm |

    Sorry to endlessly prattle on about Ponce de Leon park and the football field layout but the question piqued my curiousity and so, after some googling:

    It seems the only football played there was of the high school variety, albeit popular games, sometimes drawing 20,000 and apparently usually on friday nights.

    I also came across this from the New Georgia Encyclopedia:
    “The grandstand’s entire capacity was 9,800. The bleachers for the white fans, located in right field, accommodated 2,500, and the seats in left field, for African Americans, held the same number. With standing room for more than 6,000, the stadium could hold 20,000 fans.”

    Lastly, another photo, showing a gridiron from another angle:
    http://www.digitalba...

    Don’t know if this sheds much light on the debate.
    One other thing: a large lake that had once been a recreational destination was filled in to build the place.
    Pretty cool name, too.
    Done now.
    :)

  • ShaunT | February 1, 2010 at 4:44 pm |

    Maybe the inspiration for the new(ish) SEC logo in this top pic? http://www.atlantati...

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”375505″][quote comment=”375503″][quote comment=”375457″]couldn’t help but notice that the guy leading the cheers in iceball was wearing a “tonight we bowl” toque. i bought the same at the bryant-lake bowl, jth had some interesting idears for modifications too.[/quote]
    Speaking of which, my kids are learning cross-stitch or needlepoint or something like that from their great-grandmother.

    So if you need to outsource that project to some cheap child labor, you know where to go.[/quote]

    Do they have NHL licensing? I need a few names and numbers sewn on a few jerseys. LOL[/quote]
    If NHL stands for “not honestly legitimate” then yes.

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”375495″][quote comment=”375487″]
    not to mention it will be on your home lanes. do i get a handicap for having a pineapple for a partner?[/quote]

    i have no home lanes

    and with your style, i’d imagine you’ll negate any home lane advantage the brooklyn contingent may have[/quote]
    seriously, i got lucky

    powers~the brownie IS one of the best logos ever.

    jth~it’s good to know, just don’t tell the how to organize and bargain collectively.

    ricko~the raised ball is just a stretch, and part of the ocd, just trying to be as routine as possible. eeeeespecially when you consider the straight shooting chicago team was going up against a couple of new york hookers, real pros, you could tell.

  • Mako M. | February 1, 2010 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”375428″][quote comment=”375426″][quote comment=”375396″][quote comment=”375389″][quote comment=”375385″]”And for the image on the left, note the large-ish American flag decal for Desert Storm — bigger than the ones used nowadays. Frankly, I thought the Desert Storm flags had been added for Super Bowl XXV and didn’t realize they were already in place during the playoffs. Anyone know if they had been added prior to the conference championship weekend?”

    Uh, that’s not a flag. It’s a white sticker with the NFL logo in the corner and black lettering on a white background. Or am I missing something? I guess it vaguely resembles a flag.[/quote]

    Sure looked like a flag to me. But I see what you mean — tough to be sure either way![/quote]

    It’s definitely an American flag.[/quote]

    Nothing “definite” about it. I see the three points of the NFL logo. And the “stripes” are not even red. And they are uneven. Because they are words, not stripes.[/quote]

    You’re right, I can see the points on the NFL logo when I zoomed in on the pic. So exactly what the heck is it then? The safety warning is on the other side, so what type of text would the NFL possibly need there? Did Davis lose his normal helmet and have to buy a replica or something?[/quote]

    Now you can say “It’s definitely an American flag”

    http://i47.tinypic.c...

    http://i49.tinypic.c...

  • LI Phil | February 1, 2010 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”375504″][quote comment=”375478″]
    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]
    Pretty proud of that, huh? You got me by what, a whole 7 pins?[/quote]

    was it that many? i thought our scores were something like 188 (rpm) 118 (me), 117 (pl) and 114 (jth)

    with scores that close, i wouldn’t say we took ya behind the shed or nothin…

    the whole exercise was reminiscent of this

  • Teebz | February 1, 2010 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”375509″]a couple of new york hookers[/quote]

    Phil prefers the term “alley employees” for that line of work. LOL

  • TC Mark | February 1, 2010 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”375469″][quote comment=”375465″][quote comment=”375462″][quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.[/quote]

    Great question! Let me be first to speculate the design (without having graphic arts programs at my disposal):

    Top Line (in small letters):
    Superbowl L
    Second line (in smaller letters):
    Celebrating
    Third line (huge numbers):
    50
    fourth line (back to the small #s):
    Years of Championships

    or they could just hold the game at Wrigley Field …

    http://farm4.static....

    Sadly enough as soon as I posted it, I had a thought for a logo:

    S
    U
    P
    E
    R
    B O W L

    Outline the whole thing in white, one word blue letters, one word red.[/quote]

    So…following your design scheme to its conclusions the “B” would be purple. Perfect! I’m sure Paul would endorse that.

  • LarryB | February 1, 2010 at 4:58 pm |

    How about when the Brownie ran the ball out for the kickoff

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

  • ShaunT | February 1, 2010 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”375513″][quote comment=”375469″][quote comment=”375465″][quote comment=”375462″][quote comment=”375459″][quote comment=”375455″][quote comment=”375451″]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God, do not let the Cowboys get to the Superbowl that year.[/quote]

    i will have to respectfully disagree with you.[/quote]

    Is that because you’re a Cowboys fan (acceptable reason to disagree) or because you like the idea of the Superbowl logo being so close to the logo of the NFL team in the host city (I’d have to call you insane)?

    /does anyone else think they’ll stop using roman numerals for Super Bowl 50? Superbowl L looks more like a typo than a legitimate name.[/quote]

    Great question! Let me be first to speculate the design (without having graphic arts programs at my disposal):

    Top Line (in small letters):
    Superbowl L
    Second line (in smaller letters):
    Celebrating
    Third line (huge numbers):
    50
    fourth line (back to the small #s):
    Years of Championships

    or they could just hold the game at Wrigley Field …

    http://farm4.static....

    Sadly enough as soon as I posted it, I had a thought for a logo:

    S
    U
    P
    E
    R
    B O W L

    Outline the whole thing in white, one word blue letters, one word red.[/quote]

    So…following your design scheme to its conclusions the “B” would be purple. Perfect! I’m sure Paul would endorse that.[/quote]

    its the super bowl not the suberB bowl

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”375511″][quote comment=”375504″][quote comment=”375478″]
    /ah well, the NY contingent may have lost the overall pin count, but we did finish 2-3 behind rpm[/quote]
    Pretty proud of that, huh? You got me by what, a whole 7 pins?[/quote]

    was it that many? i thought our scores were something like 188 (rpm) 118 (me), 117 (pl) and 114 (jth)

    with scores that close, i wouldn’t say we took ya behind the shed or nothin…
    [/quote]
    Yeah, something like that. I really don’t know what the actual scores/margins were. I only remember that I came in fourth, Paul edged me out and you edged him out. I’m just glad I didn’t completely embarrass myself
    [quote comment=”375511″]
    the whole exercise was reminiscent of this[/quote]
    I’d say that’s about right.

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”375514″]How about when the Brownie ran the ball out for the kickoff

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    that is amazing, i had no idea, i like that little elf even more now.

  • Johnny O | February 1, 2010 at 5:24 pm |

    An interesting tidbit from a Brewer fan over at brewcrewball.com :

    After waiting in line for 3+ hours at On Deck for Prince’s autograph, I asked him if they were still going to untuck next year. I’m sure you’ll be glad to know that his answer was not only a “yes” but a “definately yes.”

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 5:32 pm |

    FOR ALL THOSE YANKEE FANS…
    who called in to talk radio saying things like, “Posada is old, we should get Mauer” as if such an event would just automatically materialize bbecause it suited you and the ballclub…

    Keep your eyes peeled for a Twins news conference today or tomorrow.

    Okay?

    —Ricko
    (Likely 10 years, no exact figures yet, but something like $200 million probably is pretty close)

  • Kerry P | February 1, 2010 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”375479″][quote comment=”375476″]Stupid quotes are killing me, I’ve fixed the one link not working:
    [quote comment=”375475″]
    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]
    I would have to say that this isn’t a real logo for a few reasons. Specifically, it doesn’t match up with the logos over the past years since the “in house” design process started. Specifically since Super Bowl XLI in 2007 and on. Look at the logos for those past games:
    XLI, XLII, XLIII, XLIV.[/quote][/quote]

    Also, unlike virtually all its predecessors, it looks just a tad too much like one particular team’s helmet logo, don’t you think?

    Although I’m sure Jonesy, the entire Metroplex and all who buy into the “America’s Team” malarkey would love it.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Oh definitely, my point was just that it doesn’t quite fit the new, sad, less-than-exciting trend in Super Bowl logo design.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 5:43 pm |

    rpm said…

    “ricko~the raised ball is just a stretch, and part of the ocd, just trying to be as routine as possible. eeeeespecially when you consider the straight shooting chicago team was going up against a couple of new york hookers, real pros, you could tell.”

    Wasn’t fault-finding with your “aloftness”. Just reporting.

    As to the New Yorkers, well, yes, they actually threw, like, hooks and stuff, whereas you and JTH were decidely straight arrow in your approach.

    Very midwestern of you, I thought.

    —Ricko

  • ShaunT | February 1, 2010 at 5:44 pm |

    am i the only one who hates the deal where they put the nfl logo at midfield and the SB logo on the 25s or 30s? it should go back to the way it was: superbowl logo at midfield and helmets on the 25s. i think the tampa oakland super bowl was the last to do it right, am i correct?

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”375520″][quote comment=”375479″][quote comment=”375476″]Stupid quotes are killing me, I’ve fixed the one link not working:
    [quote comment=”375475″]
    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can’t Confirm[/quote]
    I would have to say that this isn’t a real logo for a few reasons. Specifically, it doesn’t match up with the logos over the past years since the “in house” design process started. Specifically since Super Bowl XLI in 2007 and on. Look at the logos for those past games:
    XLI, XLII, XLIII, XLIV.[/quote][/quote]

    Also, unlike virtually all its predecessors, it looks just a tad too much like one particular team’s helmet logo, don’t you think?

    Although I’m sure Jonesy, the entire Metroplex and all who buy into the “America’s Team” malarkey would love it.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Oh definitely, my point was just that it doesn’t quite fit the new, sad, less-than-exciting trend in Super Bowl logo design.[/quote]

    That, too. Bland seems to be the design touchstone recently…especially compared to earlier logos, which were nicely dosed with local imagery.

    —Ricko

  • rpm | February 1, 2010 at 5:50 pm |

    dang jth has been giving me the roofus~goofus for a couple days now. by the way, let me know if you are coming over for the super on the 10″ screen.

    speaking of the super, anyone interested in a guess what songs the who will play at halftime pool? i am working on parameters now, i will try to get it together by wednesday.

  • Kerry P | February 1, 2010 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”375502″][quote comment=\”375451\”]SB 45 LOGO?

    http://i10.photobuck...

    I Can\’t Confirm[/quote]

    Might that be the proposed logo from the host committee – like this one:

    http://www.our2012sb...

    Since XLVI will be in Indianapolis proper, it will be interesting to see if gets changed to \”Central Indiana\” at some point.[/quote]
    But that doesn’t look like a “proposed” logo from the Indianapolic host committee, that looks like the committee’s logo. Here’s the one from Dallas.

    I would assume that, as long as they maintain the current naming patterns, the game in Indianapolis would use the word “Indiana” like Super Bowl XLII used “Arizona” instead of the city name. I would suspect the game in New Orleans in 2013 would be either “Louisiana” or “Gulf Coast”. Although I could see the NFL just using the typical “New Orleans” due to the rebuilding efforts of the city after Hurricane Katrina.

  • Bill | February 1, 2010 at 6:29 pm |

  • Bill | February 1, 2010 at 6:30 pm |

    when is the new logo usually announced?

  • carl1212 | February 1, 2010 at 6:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”375527″]when is the new logo usually announced?[/quote]

    will it be ?

  • LI Phil | February 1, 2010 at 6:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”375524″] anyone interested in a guess what songs the who will play at halftime pool? [/quote]

    i gave you mine, right?

  • mike 2 | February 1, 2010 at 6:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”375529″][quote comment=”375524″] anyone interested in a guess what songs the who will play at halftime pool? [/quote]

    i gave you mine, right?[/quote]

    The game is on CBS, right?

    1. Theme from CSI
    2. Theme from other CSI
    3. Theme from yet another CSI

    I’d give real money to hear them jam the overture from Tommy for twelve minutes, but its not going to happen.

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”375522″]am i the only one who hates the deal where they put the nfl logo at midfield and the SB logo on the 25s or 30s? it should go back to the way it was: superbowl logo at midfield and helmets on the 25s. i think the tampa oakland super bowl was the last to do it right, am i correct?[/quote]

    Correct. http://thisisbandit....

    And I believe that was only done from Super Bowls 31 through 37. I preferred that look as well.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 7:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”375530″][quote comment=”375529″][quote comment=”375524″] anyone interested in a guess what songs the who will play at halftime pool? [/quote]

    i gave you mine, right?[/quote]

    The game is on CBS, right?

    1. Theme from CSI
    2. Theme from other CSI
    3. Theme from yet another CSI

    I’d give real money to hear them jam the overture from Tommy for twelve minutes, but its not going to happen.[/quote]

    Also themes from NCIS, TWO AND A HALF MEN and THE BIG BANG THEORY.

    —Ricko

  • jesse | February 1, 2010 at 7:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”375519″]FOR ALL THOSE YANKEE FANS…
    who called in to talk radio saying things like, “Posada is old, we should get Mauer” as if such an event would just automatically materialize bbecause it suited you and the ballclub…

    Keep your eyes peeled for a Twins news conference today or tomorrow.

    Okay?

    —Ricko
    (Likely 10 years, no exact figures yet, but something like $200 million probably is pretty close)[/quote]
    Serious?

  • Aaron | February 1, 2010 at 7:19 pm |

    The Washington jerseys, weren’t totally BFBS:

    http://www.gohuskies...

    At least they’re better than oregon pink.

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 7:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”375531″][quote comment=”375522″]am i the only one who hates the deal where they put the nfl logo at midfield and the SB logo on the 25s or 30s? it should go back to the way it was: superbowl logo at midfield and helmets on the 25s. i think the tampa oakland super bowl was the last to do it right, am i correct?[/quote]

    Correct. http://thisisbandit....

    And I believe that was only done from Super Bowls 31 through 37. I preferred that look as well.[/quote]

    From Super Bowls 7 or 8 to 30, I believe it was NFL logo at midfield and helmets in the endzone. Team logo on left helmet, conference logo on right helmet. I believe the SB logos at the kickoff lines started with SB 10.
    http://media-2.web.b...
    http://media.photobu...

  • MotionMan | February 1, 2010 at 7:26 pm |

    The Miami Dolphins yarmulke says “Miami” in Hebrew letters.

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 7:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”375535″][quote comment=”375531″][quote comment=”375522″]am i the only one who hates the deal where they put the nfl logo at midfield and the SB logo on the 25s or 30s? it should go back to the way it was: superbowl logo at midfield and helmets on the 25s. i think the tampa oakland super bowl was the last to do it right, am i correct?[/quote]

    Correct. http://thisisbandit....

    And I believe that was only done from Super Bowls 31 through 37. I preferred that look as well.[/quote]

    From Super Bowls 7 or 8 to 30, I believe it was NFL logo at midfield and helmets in the endzone. Team logo on left helmet, conference logo on right helmet. I believe the SB logos at the kickoff lines started with SB 10.
    http://media-2.web.b...
    http://media.photobu...

    Just watched some SB highlights on youtube. 10, 11 and 12 had little NFL-like shields at with Roman numerals in them. SB 13 was the first one to have the actual logo at the kickoff line.
    http://www.checkoutm...

  • Kurt Allen | February 1, 2010 at 7:57 pm |
  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”375533″][quote comment=”375519″]FOR ALL THOSE YANKEE FANS…
    who called in to talk radio saying things like, “Posada is old, we should get Mauer” as if such an event would just automatically materialize bbecause it suited you and the ballclub…

    Keep your eyes peeled for a Twins news conference today or tomorrow.

    Okay?

    —Ricko
    (Likely 10 years, no exact figures yet, but something like $200 million probably is pretty close)[/quote]
    Serious?[/quote]

    That’s what I’ve heard, and what the local sports anchor (CBS affiliate) who broke the Favre signing in saying. He’s by far the most senior of the local sports anchors, extremely well-connected, and rarely goes for the “I got it first” story…which means he’s virtually never wrong when he does.

    There’s a first time for everything, of course, and the other stations are falling all over themselves to say it isn’t true. Saying, “Twins say it’s not so” (right, they’re gonna say, “You got us” and take all the thunder out of their own news conference. They’re saying, “Well, Mauer’s in California.” Yeah, and where’s his agent? That’s what matters.

    Reporters. Such a bunch of knobs sometimes.

    —Ricko

  • interlockingtc | February 1, 2010 at 8:09 pm |

    That 1970 NFL Game Of The Week footage between the Bengals and Browns was fantastic. I chose the Bengals as my favorite team back then based on their uniform…you can see why. Thanks Brinke Guthrie for sharing that.

  • M.Princip | February 1, 2010 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”375517″][quote comment=”375514″]How about when the Brownie ran the ball out for the kickoff

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    that is amazing, i had no idea, i like that little elf even more now.[/quote]

    Wow! Is that a kid, or, dwarf in that elf costume?

  • david murphy | February 1, 2010 at 8:30 pm |

    Thanks for the photos of Ponce de Leon Park. Hard to see the magnolia tree in centerfield in that shot. Unlike the stadium, the old Sears building, the railroad bridge, and the building behind the bridge, all still stand. In college I used to get my oil changed at the Sears auto, located in the basement of the building. Lived a couple blocks away…how I wish ball games were still played there. The city bought the building and used it as ‘city hall east.’

  • carl1212 | February 1, 2010 at 8:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”375542″]Thanks for the photos of Ponce de Leon Park. Hard to see the magnolia tree in centerfield in that shot. Unlike the stadium, the old Sears building, the railroad bridge, and the building behind the bridge, all still stand. In college I used to get my oil changed at the Sears auto, located in the basement of the building. Lived a couple blocks away…how I wish ball games were still played there. The city bought the building and used it as ‘city hall east.'[/quote]

    where did you go to school? im at state and just burned a whole day on that site!

  • Jesse w | February 1, 2010 at 8:54 pm |

    no screen shot yet but, tony romo wore what appeared to be the number 1 on the back of his helmet instead of 9 in the pro bowl

  • leon | February 1, 2010 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”375544″]no screen shot yet but, tony romo wore what appeared to be the number 1 on the back of his helmet instead of 9 in the pro bowl[/quote]
    Mark Sanchez has got that beat!
    :)

  • jdreyfuss | February 1, 2010 at 9:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”375492″][quote comment=”375427″][quote comment=”375384″]I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.[/quote]
    he’s a brownie, a wood elf from irish mythology. i actually like the ‘CB’ logo. i never want them to put it on the players, but i think it would look good as their primary logo, like on the field and stuff.[/quote]

    I must be in the minority, but I have always LOVED the brownie logo.[/quote]
    I have a winter hat with brownie the elf on it. I’d wear it as often as I could, but it doesn’t snow much here in Houston.

  • sitruc | February 1, 2010 at 10:12 pm |

    The Pro Bowl got great ratings.

  • Joshua | February 1, 2010 at 10:45 pm |

    This was my first time submitting anything on here, and I was estatic when I saw it made it on to the site. Did anyone else who watched the pro bowl (yeah, both of you) notice those weird patches below the back numbers? I sent a screen shot of that in too, but my email was being weird when I sent it.

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 10:56 pm |

    Just found this.
    Anyone looking for USFL Games?
    http://www.ioffer.co...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | February 1, 2010 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”375549″]Just found this.
    Anyone looking for USFL Games?
    http://www.ioffer.co...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Scroll down a ways for tons of invidiual games at $3.50 ea. (I’m not shilling for anyone, just see this guy’s stuff a treasure trove for anyone looking for USFL games).

    —Ricko

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”375546″][quote comment=”375492″][quote comment=”375427″][quote comment=”375384″]I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.[/quote]
    he’s a brownie, a wood elf from irish mythology. i actually like the ‘CB’ logo. i never want them to put it on the players, but i think it would look good as their primary logo, like on the field and stuff.[/quote]

    I must be in the minority, but I have always LOVED the brownie logo.[/quote]
    I have a winter hat with brownie the elf on it. I’d wear it as often as I could, but it doesn’t snow much here in Houston.[/quote]
    It’s right around 50° right now. Isn’t that about the temperature that makes Houstonians want to dress like this?

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”375515″]

    So…following your design scheme to its conclusions the “B” would be purple. Perfect! I’m sure Paul would endorse that.[/quote]

    its the super

    bowl not the suberB bowl[/quote]

    Bloody dammit, no!

    No purple letters, and no Superb Bowl.

    Something like this:
    http://img718.images...

    (which I admit is probably way too simplistic for the NFL to use, and most people probably wouldn’t get that the L shape represented the roman L for 50.)

  • LarryB | February 1, 2010 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”375381″]This is definitely from some bad “Twilight Zone” nightmare
    http://images.google...

    Yikes that was scary

  • The Jeff | February 1, 2010 at 11:11 pm |

    ..and I quote that wrong. hmph.

  • LI Phil | February 1, 2010 at 11:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”375551″]Isn’t that about the temperature that makes Houstonians want to dress like this?[/quote]

    or this

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”375555″][quote comment=”375551″]Isn’t that about the temperature that makes Houstonians want to dress like this?[/quote]

    or this[/quote]
    That attire’s for when it’s 65° in Houston.

  • Teebz | February 1, 2010 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”375555″][quote comment=”375551″]Isn’t that about the temperature that makes Houstonians want to dress like this?[/quote]

    or this[/quote]

    My god… Powers has a clone?!? LOL

  • Cort | February 1, 2010 at 11:36 pm |

    First of all, I live in Houston, and I have indeed seen people wearing winter coats and mittens in weather that back home in Buffalo we would have considered balmy (50 degrees in January is tee shirt and shorts weather in western New York).

    Second, this Wilmington Blue Rocks thing has been bothering me all day. Isn’t the Wilmington Blue Rock a breed of chicken? So why is their mascot a moose named Rocky? And doesn’t anyone in Delaware remember that Rocky was a flying squirrel; Bullwinkle was the moose?

    The whole thing annoys me. Nice colors, though, although the “Delaware buff” is sadly underutilized…

  • JTH | February 1, 2010 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”375558″]First of all, I live in Houston, and I have indeed seen people wearing winter coats and mittens in weather that back home in Buffalo we would have considered balmy (50 degrees in January is tee shirt and shorts weather in western New York).

    Second, this Wilmington Blue Rocks thing has been bothering me all day. Isn’t the Wilmington Blue Rock a breed of chicken? So why is their mascot a moose named Rocky? And doesn’t anyone in Delaware remember that Rocky was a flying squirrel; Bullwinkle was the moose?

    The whole thing annoys me. Nice colors, though, although the “Delaware buff” is sadly underutilized…[/quote]
    His name is Rocky *ahem* Bluewinkle. Yes, Rocky Bluewinkle.

    And of course he’s on Twitter.

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 11:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”375549″]Just found this.
    Anyone looking for USFL Games?
    http://www.ioffer.co...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I always wondered – what’s the copyright issue with these? There’s a place that sells MISL videos too: http://mislvideo.com...

    I have some USFL games on tape from ESPN classic. Obviously I’d love some more on DVD, as well as some MISL games. I also like my freedom, so I want to make sure these are on the up and up.

  • JimV19 | February 1, 2010 at 11:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”375549″]Just found this.
    Anyone looking for USFL Games?
    http://www.ioffer.co...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    First response got filtered out, so I’ll try this again…
    What’s the copyright issue with these? Obviously I’d love some games, plus I found a site that sells MISL games. I enjoy my freedom, though, so I want to make sure these things are on the up and up.

  • The Jeff | February 2, 2010 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”375559″][quote comment=”375558″]First of all, I live in Houston, and I have indeed seen people wearing winter coats and mittens in weather that back home in Buffalo we would have considered balmy (50 degrees in January is tee shirt and shorts weather in western New York).

    Second, this Wilmington Blue Rocks thing has been bothering me all day. Isn’t the Wilmington Blue Rock a breed of chicken? So why is their mascot a moose named Rocky? And doesn’t anyone in Delaware remember that Rocky was a flying squirrel; Bullwinkle was the moose?

    The whole thing annoys me. Nice colors, though, although the “Delaware buff” is sadly underutilized…[/quote]
    His name is Rocky *ahem* Bluewinkle. Yes, Rocky Bluewinkle.

    And of course he’s on Twitter.[/quote]

    That’s just terrible. If anything, he should have been Bluewinkle the Moose, so he could have Ricky the gray squirrel as a sidekick.

    ////
    Hey Ricky, watch me pull a baseball out of my hat
    *takes football out of hat*
    I gotta get another hat.

  • Bob Loblaw | February 2, 2010 at 12:13 am |

    Those vintage pics of Brownie the Elf running to midfield w/ the ball appears to be a child. Judging from that stride… maybe 12 ???

  • LI Phil | February 2, 2010 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”375563″]Those vintage pics of Brownie the Elf running to midfield w/ the ball appears to be a child. Judging from that stride… maybe 12 ???[/quote]

    ok, now you’re scaring me

  • jdreyfuss | February 2, 2010 at 12:16 am |

    [quote comment=”375551″][quote comment=”375546″][quote comment=”375492″][quote comment=”375427″][quote comment=”375384″]I own a Cleveland Browns blanket/most uncomfortable piece of crap ever with the aluminum-y material. I bought it on eBay and I remember it having information about NASA in it description. I will send a picture of it tonight. The best part is instead of using the Cleveland helmet they NFL went with the Cleveland Pixie…errrr… Elf.[/quote]
    he’s a brownie, a wood elf from irish mythology. i actually like the ‘CB’ logo. i never want them to put it on the players, but i think it would look good as their primary logo, like on the field and stuff.[/quote]

    I must be in the minority, but I have always LOVED the brownie logo.[/quote]
    I have a winter hat with brownie the elf on it. I’d wear it as often as I could, but it doesn’t snow much here in Houston.[/quote]
    It’s right around 50° right now. Isn’t that about the temperature that makes Houstonians want to dress like this?[/quote]
    i’m from cleveland originally. it’s not hat weather for me

  • Nick | February 2, 2010 at 12:16 am |

    [quote comment=”375411″][quote comment=”375409″]As one of the 4 of 5 people in the U.S. who actually watch the Pro Bowl (if one defines “watch” as “have on the TV in the background whilst doing something else”), I have concluded that the week before the Super Bowl is the best time to play it, if it must be played at all. I like this idea and hope the NFL will keep it this way.[/quote]

    Gotta agree.
    But no need to compel Colts and Saints players (this year) to attend. Let them stay focussed and, c’mon, does the NFL think the Super Bowl won’t get enough attention anyway?

    As to best players not being in the game, so what. The game’s never been all too real, anyway. The Great Hawaiian Afterthought. Baseball’s ASG is only one with any on-field reality. Reggie’s mammoth HR in Detroit wasn’t hit off a pitch lobbed in there for him. And Torii Hunter didn’t loaf on his catch, either. Can bear down in baseball, because it’s a series of one-on-one confrontations (sometimes just between the player and the ball; pitched, hit or thrown), but not involving collisions.

    What the NFL could do (and to my mind, SHOULD do) is use Pro Bowl Week to generate a football version of MLB’s Hot Stove League (or its Winter Meetings). And they sort of did. Lots of talk about who might retire, possible player movement, who needs what in the draft, how players looked in the Senior Bowl, etc., etc. That’s good, pot-stirring fun. And, frankly, saves us from reading and seeing endless fillers and sidebars about the Saints and Colts players’ wives, kids and dogs…or whatever.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The “Pro Bowl” has been a joke for wayyyyyyy too long. The post 1993 unis only enhance the unwatchability of the game.

    I say, name a Probowl or Allstar team, pay them their bonuses, and and make the game (The “Future Stars” Bowl?) a Rookie & 2nd year Allstar game played the week and site of the Superbowl, or just do away with it altogether. Only allow players that have started 8 games or less to play in the game. I bet you more peple would watch for the chance to see the new guys than would watch to see this current insider fest, half-hearted joka of a “football game”.

    It is now a different time and a different league. Wecan not expect the best players to play all out in a nothing Pro Bowl game now that the money involved for the player is soo great, and a team losing a great player to injury would kill their season(s) and salary structure.

    At least with the Rookie/2nd year player game, you may get a real ballgame and also get to see some stars of the future.

    Just a thought.

  • Nick | February 2, 2010 at 12:20 am |

    [quote comment=”375414″][quote comment=”375412″]Oh man, that Dolphins yarmulke would go so well with my Hebrew-lettered Dolphins T-shirt. Sometimes the mixing of religion and sports repulses me but at other times it’s just… hysterical.[/quote]

    So would a Hebrew Dolphins tailgate party include…

    … gefilte fish???

    -Jet[/quote]

    Lean, hot Corned Beef and Pastrami, on crusty Rye!

  • LI Phil | February 2, 2010 at 12:26 am |

    [quote comment=”375567″]Lean, hot Corned Beef and Pastrami, on crusty Rye![/quote]

    sounds like a nice box lunch

  • Nick | February 2, 2010 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”375422″]re: Browns logo-ed helmets.

    This post is from Feb, 2009 at ChrisCreamer’s site…

    “According to the Browns, the ‘CB’ logo was developed before the ’65 Season. It was placed on the helmets but the players, coaches, etc. removed them before the first Preseason Game. It was rumored that they did see one game: A 1965 Preseason Game vs Green Bay in Cleveland, but photographic evidence shows that this is not true ”

    Even if that stuff about “player opposition” is retro-fiction (and it may be) it also seems entirely possible that someone with the Browns looked around and said, ‘Y’know, we’re now the only team in EITHER league without a logo or graphic of some kind. Maybe that’s more unique than the ‘CB’…and since no one seems to really LOVE it…”

    THAT I could believe. Much more than “the player’s hated it.” In 1965, the reaction to that would have been, “Who gives a shit; wear the goddamn logo.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Also, it is amongst the crappiest helmet logos ever. The letter font used for the “CB” matches nothing else the team had ever done, and using the initials of the city and team in combination is usually a prescription for crappy.

    Can you imagine NOS, or IC or MV on a hat. I’m sure it has been done by some ill-advised manufacterer, and I am even more certain that it loks crappy.

  • Nick | February 2, 2010 at 12:37 am |

    [quote comment=”375441″][quote comment=”375439″][quote comment=”375436″]So playing the Pro Bowl a week before the Super Bowl didn’t help and playing it a week after doesn’t help…why not try playing the game on Super Bowl Sunday with an earlier start time maybe noon eastern. NFL fans watch hours upon hours of pre-game coverage Super Sunday anyway so it seems playing any kind of football during that time frame is a can’t miss.

    Play the game at a separate site then the Super Bowl (perhaps a smaller college stadium in the same area as the Super Bowl so players in the Pro Bowl could attend the Super Bowl if they wanted). Make the crowd smaller to increase the intensity and even throw in some gimmcks, make it more about fun than a “football game”, bands and performances between quarters, let the players even participate the ultimate “look at me moment”, more of an experience than a game. The problem of players playing in the Super Bowl and thus not the Pro Bowl will still exist but again with every TV in America watching pre-game “analysis” for 8 hours prior to the game, it could only help ratings.[/quote]

    That’d work for me. Hell I’d rather watch a high school scrimmage over the 8 hours of pointless analysis. Hello, we’ve been watching all season, we know what each team is capable of, shut up and show something worth watching before the game.[/quote]

    WHAT!?? Generic Host, Generic Ex-Coach 1, Generic Ex-player/analyst, Generic Outspoken ex-player, Generic Longtime broadcaster/ex-coach/player no one remembers playing, and generic borderline comedian just don’t cut it for you? Well let’s throw in Generic ex-coach 2 and generic outspoken/marginal player 2![/quote]

    I try not to even turn the game on until the player introductions. i at least try to leave the sound off. It is simply too, too much of a celebration of mediocrity of hype thing for me to even watch.

    35 years ago, pre cable, you wanted to see the highlights and snippets of games that you really did not have access to. These days, by 11 pm in a given regular season game day, you will have seen all of the highlights 10 times each that in 1975 would have taken you until January 15 to see.

  • Kevin Z. | February 2, 2010 at 12:55 am |

    I noticed those vertical striped socks for UVA Basketball against Va Tech last Thursday:
    http://www.replaypho...
    Seems they have worn them as far back as Jan. 18 vs. UNCW:
    http://images.pictop...

  • l.e. | February 2, 2010 at 10:30 pm |

    In the Pro Bowl, Aaron Rodgers made a touchdown pass to Steve Smith of the Giants, both wearing number 12. Does anyone have a screengrab of that? I think I saw them soon after the pass on TV doing a chest bump.

  • Darrin K | February 3, 2010 at 12:45 pm |

    On the Patriot’s bicycle…a kid at my school had the same bike back in 1980 or so and was teased mercilessly. Keep in mind we were in Nebraska and he must have been the sole Pats fan within 1000 miles.