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For the Love of Little Men

little men headerBy Phil Hecken, Jim Vilk and Chris Markham

Growing up in the 1970s, before the advent of video games, I had what a lot of kids my age had, one of those vibrating football games. Mine wasn’t even as nice as that basic one, but it did have one of those giant plastic quarterbacks that threw about as hard as Chad Pennington, and as accurately as JaMarcus Russell. It came with little orange “name tabs” to stick on the players (which, being about six at the time, I did very poorly), and the “ball” was some kind of magnet that was about the size of a pen cap. Still, I enjoyed it but all the players seemed to go in circles. There was, I think, one little guy who ran straight ahead, but since the quarterback couldn’t throw for shit, I used him for running plays … ALL running plays. Once I lost the “ball” and the Mattel Electronic Football game came out, that was the end of the vibrating game for me. Unfortunately, or fortunately, that game got tossed soon afterwards. Never thought too much about it until I started reading Uni Watch. Seems like there is a real following (not necessarily on here, but ‘out there’), and we have a couple of real artisans today who take the vibrating football game to a new level.

I’m in Minnesota at the “Deep Freeze” today, but I didn’t wanna leave you guys with just pics of the Grumpy’s gathering, so I conscripted Jim Vilk and Chris Markham to provide you guys with the following wonderful article. We have two sections today, one each by Mr. “I’d wear that” Himself, Jimmy V. and Chris. You may remember Chris from a few years back when Paul gave him the coveted Number One Slot in his holiday gifting selections. So, kick back for a few minutes as we take a look at what was surely a childhood favorite for a number of us, only these gentlemen take it to a whole new level. Chris has won the toss and elected to defer, so Jim will receive this quarter, while Chris will be getting the ball to start the second half:

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First Half
by Jim Vilk

When the NFL playoffs started, I had a little feeling of deja vu. The Jets and Bengals were playing in Cincinnati, but I’ve never been there and I’ve never seen either team play live. Well, not on a regulation-sized field, I haven’t. It felt familiar because those were the first two teams I played on my old electric football game.

My brother and I, like a lot of boys growing up in the early 70s, were captivated for hours on end with little plastic figures running into each other, running towards the endzones, and yes, running in circles at the most inopportune times. It was great fun in a simpler time. Speaking of simple, that’s what our first set was. Dad got us the small field with the triangle-pattern endzones. The players were unpainted, so my brother, being old enough to paint, got to choose what teams to make. He wanted the Browns and Jets, but we didn’t have enough brown paint. Instead, he used black to make the Bengals. His no-frills painting left them looking even simpler than those old football cards where they couldn’t use the logos on the helmets. We didn’t even have stripes or numbers, but our imaginations filled in the blanks for us.

As we continued to play, Dad saw we were serious about the game and decided to get us a bigger and better set with numbered, pre-painted players. These days I can appreciate the stark beauty of our first field. Back then, however, I wanted the snazziest field I could find, with painted endzones, logos at midfield and even colored yard-line numbers. We didn’t get that one, but “settled” for one with red and blue diamond-patterned endzones and the NFL logo at midfield. We asked for the Chiefs and Cowboys, since my brother liked Otis Taylor and I, though not a Cowboys fan, liked Bob Hayes and blue uniforms. In order to accomodate our tastes, we ended up with a matchup you’ll probably never see on the field — Chiefs in white jerseys and red pants vs. Cowboys in the blue jerseys.

In time, my brother grew out of the game and I was left to play it by myself. I did that for a few years, then I decided to sell the newer game to a consignment store. My brother still has the older game, but time has not been good to it. The players are in various stages of disrepair, and the field has a crease down one sideline (my fault, for leaning it up against something big and unsteady in our attic).

For about fifteen years, neither one of us thought much about electric football. Then, my brother saw an order form for a cheap game, sponsored by Snickers. For some reason, that renewed my interest in the game. I think I had visions of playing a “Snickers Candy Bowl” every holiday season. This was also when my son was born, so I’m sure I had ideas of passing on this hobby to him when he got older.

By this time, I discovered Madden video games. Therefore, I was even more into realism than when we got our Chiefs/Cowboys game. I wanted lots of teams, but couldn’t afford to buy them already painted. So, I got a bunch of plain teams and started doing it myself. In the midst of all my painting, I started finding other game boards at flea markets. I bought a few, including a Super Bowl field that I thought would be nice for a Pro Bowl. I also got a small battery-powered field for Christmas, which I thought I could make into an arena football field.

Reality soon started to set in for me. I didn’t have time to do all the things I wanted to do. Plus, my son wasn’t that interested, preferring to play with his Legos. I started donating some of my games and teams, while other teams I started using for projects like my indoor soccer game. Yeah, I know, they’re painted monochrome. It bugs me too, but I wanted to stop painting and start playing. I’ll fix them someday.

All I have now is a simple field with slanted endzones, and four USFL teams. I’m painting the ’84 Federals to go with the Stars, Maulers and Wranglers. My brother has all the teams I painted for him, including the Chiefs and Cowboys in a more likely uni-matchup. He has the Super Bowl field now, while I gave the battery-powered game to my son, hoping it might get him interested. Finally, it did, and for the last two New Years we’ve played a bowl game. I won the inaugural Candy Bowl 3-0, but this year my son trimuphed 7-0 in the renamed Snack Bowl. The trophy was a foil-covered bowl filled with goodies, but my wife is designing a new one now. Who knows? Maybe this game will make it to the next generation after all.

Well, I thought I did a somewhat decent job of painting…until I saw the work of Chris Markham. The man you’re about to meet has created some real pieces of art. He’s going to talk about his experiences with this hobby and show you some of his teams. Now, here’s Chris:

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Second Half
By Chris Markham

Third down and four from the Cowboy thirty yard line. Is the Cowboys defense up to the task of shutting down the Steelers? The Pittsburgh Steelers dial up a run play and Franco Harris blows through a big hole created by the offensive line. Then, as if a gust of wind comes by, he suddenly darts out of bounds at the five yard line. Are you kidding me? He had a clear shot to the end zone! The year was 1979, I’m an eleven year old boy and a big time Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I am playing electric football for the first time, Pittsburgh vs. Dallas.

Much like a lot of young men of my generation, that is how it all started. It was a game long before the days of Madden, ESPN and other Playstation and XBOX football games. It was a game that allowed a kid to create players, be the coach, general manager, owner, statistician, and the fan. All of which I wanted to be when I was a young boy. As time went on, I suddenly realized that I needed more teams to have a really competitive game. With my extra money that I had received from cleaning the house, I was able to get Kansas City, Tampa Bay, NY Jets and a few others.

Now I was all set. Many teams, a season, more stats…I was in football heaven. Electric football would be a staple in my life for the next five years or so. Compiling stats for all the teams, creating Super Bowl champs, having an All Star Game, you name it, I would try it with my electric football teams.

As I grew older the game became less interesting to me and I put it away. It would be away in my parents’ basement for the next twenty plus years never to be heard of again. At least not until my parents decided it was time to clean their basement and give back the stuff that I had left behind. I suddenly had a wealth of old toys, sports memorabilia, comic books and, of course, electric football.

Well, I had no need for this stuff. I was a grown man, I didn’t need to play with any of these things. So, off to E-bay they all went. I started to post a handful of teams on E-bay just to see if I could get rid of them. Well, did I ever. I would receive questions like “Are there burrs on the bottom?” or “Is there a Hong Kong stamp?” I didn’t have a clue on what I had or how much they were worth. It wasn’t until a man named Charles would teach me all about the history of electric football that I understood what it was that I was selling. Charles would go on to give me a history lesson of the years players were made, where they were made, what the value would be, etc. To this day I give him 100% credit for bringing me back into the hobby. There are a lot of people that would have never told me what I had in my collection, but Charles was up front and honest. After I had sold most of my collection, except the Buccaneers, I had the E-bay bug and I needed to sell more teams. I had placed an ad in the local paper to see if anyone had some teams that they wanted to sell. Well, one gentleman did, twenty six teams in all, and I was off selling again. From there I started to wonder about USFL teams. Wouldn’t it be cool to have a whole league of USFL teams? But how do I create those teams? That is when I discovered Miggle and the web page. I had no idea that Miggle provided unpainted players. The very first team that I ever painted was the Tampa Bay Bandits. To this day it has been on my shelf as a reminder of where I started. My next venture was to paint the Houston Gamblers and Portland Breakers, two more USFL teams. It was at this time that I started to feel remorse from selling off all of my childhood memories. I decided that I would try and rebuild my old collection of teams. I shopped around E-bay and began to pick out the teams that I wanted. This time, I was loaded with information. I sifted through the site and only chose the teams that I was interested in. As I started buying back teams, I realized that I no longer wanted the USFL teams. I put up the Gamblers and Breakers for sale but kept the Bandits for posterity.

As the auction days passed, I was inundated with requests. “Do you paint NFL teams? Can you paint college teams? How much for a custom team?” I now had a side hobby. I began to wonder how to make these figures look better. I came accross a young man, Adam McFarlane, who was painting McFarlane figures. In talking with Adam I discovered the world of decals. We would chat daily on how to paint figures, what paints to use, what sealers, where to find decals, I was off and running. This brings us to present day. I now paint teams for folks all across the US, from college to pro to make believe teams. I have learned from many people in this short period of time how to make my players better and more realistic. I have also learned some hard lessons along the way, namely, be careful of NCAA and NFL trademarks. I hope this hobby becomes as large and popular as it was when we were kids. And as it grows, I hope to grow with it!

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Wow. Thank you gentlemen, not only for the trip down memory lane, but also for a look at the future of electronic football. It lives! What a great hobby, too — a reminder of the simpler times, for sure.

What say you, dear readers? Did you ever play? Anyone have any interesting stories? Let’s hear them all.

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NFL uni tweaks contest headerIn Case You Missed It Last Weekend, in conjunction with Alain Nana-Sinkam, the Classic Old School Gear prexy, we’re hosting a “design a pro football jersey” contest (similar to the usual “Uni Tweaks” section). There is an outstanding prize awaiting the winner, which will be subject to a vote by the Uni Watch readership, and that is a custom-designed one-of-a-kind jersey, based on YOUR concept.

If you missed it, or need a quick referseher on the rules (because there are rules), be sure to check out this article explaining everything. Just a reminder, the deadline is February 1, 2010, so if you’re interested in participating, get crackin!

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: This is a guest scoreboard today, and it comes from reader Hugh Gitlin. I don’t think when Hugh sent this he knew a lot of UWers would be in Minnesota today, so it makes this one kinda cool, ya know? See how hard it is to figure out. Ready? Guess The Game From The Scoreboard. Date, location and final score, please, and be sure to link to your answer. And, as always, if you enjoy the game, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!

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benchies headerOK, so a LOT of the UW contingent is in Minnesota for, what else, the US Pond Hockey Championships. That means, so are Mick and Mike. Here’s Rick:

What if people who lived in a place where Winter is a fact of life figured a way to play a game on the ice…and then later they built indoor arenas with ice…but then decided it would be way cool to play the game the way they used to play it and…(btw, this may have set a record for the Benchies most quickly drawn)…

And with that, enjoy your very special, drawn just for today Saturday Deep Freeze Special Benchies.

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uni tweaks headerOur next round of Uniform Tweaks, Concepts and Revisions is upon us again. We’ll be examining all sports now. So, if you have a tweak, change or concept for any sport, send them my way.

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We begin with the NHL today, and reader Andrew Daniels has a few concepts for the All Star sweaters:

Hey, my name is Andrew Daniels. I’m a senior at Raytown South High School and am currently in a graphic design program. I got bored the last few days at school, so I started messing around with some jersey concepts.

I read that if there is in fact ever another NHL All-Star game, that it would likely be in either Pittsburgh, or Raleigh. So I came up with these potential designs (Pittsburgh East Team and West Team; and Raleigh East Team and West Team). Yeah, they’re basic, but I kinda wish more hockey jerseys were. I really like the idea of color on color for these games, but I’m not totally sure about the black on red concept for Raleigh. Regardless, here they are.

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Next up is one of our more frequent tweakers, the Former Dirt Dart himself, Walter Young, who’s back with ten more tweaks:

Phil,

Here is yet another installment in my campaign to apply Ricko’s “comp sleeves” throughout the NFL. I have also continued tweak team uniforms to meet my two shirts, one pair of pants, anti-monochrome crusade, and for a few, I’ve gone a tad farther. For those who don’t like traditional sleeve stripes, sorry, I must have picked up a partiality for them in my childhood.

Bears: Sleeve stripes moved to comp-sleeves, used teams Bear & Football logo for Halas memorial patch, decided to go real old-school with brown pants (think they might wear canvas?)

Bills: Poached & modified a logo from the Buffalo Gap HS (does look like they used the current Bills logo as a template), back to the old white helmet with modified stripes, ‘70’s blue jersey & sleeve stripes, used the nickel grey from the current team colors for the pants

Broncos: The return of the Orange Crush, current logo on old helmet, old orange jersey with current number font, used team’s old blue color for the pants

Browns: Nothing major, brought back the orange pants, like everyone else, used the teams old Lerner memorial patch since I moved the sleeve stripes

Cardinals: Brought back the old jersey, used the road sleeve stripe pattern for both jerseys, kept the current number font, black pants (it’s a team color so I used it) with old stripe template

Cowboys: Removed silver from blue jerseys sleeve stripes, and used white jersey stripe pattern, teams silver-blue pants with both

Lions: Thinned down the helmet stripes, brought back the sleeve stripes that was good enough for over three decades

Panthers: Panther Blue helmet with more traditional striping and a slightly reduced sized logo, got rid of the shoulder loops (half the team doesn’t wear them) and made them sleeve stripes

Saints: Brought back the teams early style sleeve and pants stripes (not a big fan of the solid panel pants stripe)

Texans: Changed team colors to mirror colors of the Texas State Flag (they are the “Texans” after all), got rid of the silly shoulder stripe/wedge/arch thing, added traditional style sleeve stripes, red pants with my stripe pattern

Walt (FormerDirtDart)

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Next up is Ryan Cloakey, who has two full sets for the Seattle Seahawks:

Went back to the silver helmets they proposed when they first introduced the current uniforms. The uniforms are pretty much the old jerseys, just with navy, Seahawk blue and silver (replacing the neon green), and I incorporated the Seahawks logo on what would be a new pants design.

Thanks,

Ryan C.

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Last up today is Julian Grant, who, like MacArthur, has returned, this time with some Jaguars redesigns:

You know what I said about coming up with more concepts soon? Sure enough, here’s one for the Jaguars. The first thing I did here was to bring gold back to the color scheme; it brings some life and brightness to the Jags’ look, in my opinion. I then added some nice, simple sleeve striping, and repeated it on the pants with a little modern flair by cutting it off on a diagonal. For these ones I used the same hand-drawn, then Photobucket-ed process. I hope you enjoy!

Home Primary
Road Primary
Home Alt
Road Alt

Thanks for viewing!

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That’s all for today. Don’t forget about the Official NFL Jersey Tweaks Contest too, which is separate from the normal uniform tweaks section. Keep them coming, and if you have a uniform or set of uniforms you have concepted, send them my way.

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That’s gonna do it for today, everyone. I’ll be in Minnesota for one more day, but will be back tomorrow with more stuff, including our next poll, and my NFL Championship Game picks (uni style).

And so, in the words of my roommate for the “Deep Freeze,” until next time, keep your sticks on the ice!

 

68 comments to For the Love of Little Men

  • Trey | January 23, 2010 at 9:34 am |

    Great work by Walter Young on those tweaks.

  • BuckeyeMark | January 23, 2010 at 10:08 am |

    The electric football stuff is really cool … those guys have mad skills.

  • Hibbsy | January 23, 2010 at 10:09 am |

    Remember when Homer used electronic football to help him coach the youth football team?

    Cloakey,
    How’s about sending the Seahawk down the pants and continuing the stripe after the beak? Like their old sleeves.

  • aflfan | January 23, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    So weird that there is a post about electronic football today. My brother and I were just talking about that on Monday night driving home from bowling. We had the Steelers vs. the Rams and he was complaining I always made him be the Rams.

  • Jet | January 23, 2010 at 10:32 am |

    The thing I remember most about my Tudor Electric Football game, circa 1971, is that it came with one wrong player.

    The home white team was Washington if I recall, and the road team was Kansas City in red… except that one of the Chiefs was actually a St. Louis Cardinals player!

  • ren | January 23, 2010 at 10:36 am |

    srry, this is a little late but i remember when matt holliday got injured last season with the cardinals and in a short video (cant find it) he was wearing the stirrup socks with the stripes except he wasnt wearing stirrups. i just thought that was a little weird since if they make those in non stirrup form maybe they should be the designated socks since they look a ton better than plain red socks. they should try and be different since i cant think of a single team that wears striped socks as there non-stirrup sock.

  • ART | January 23, 2010 at 10:36 am |

    Love the article on the electric football. I used to get the helmet stickers from the football card packs and use them to decorate the field. Such great memories of a more simple time. Great Job!!

  • leon | January 23, 2010 at 10:57 am |

    Nostalgiac ramblings:

    I got my electric football game circa 1963. I remmber the field was heavy cardboard rather than the metal of most others I’d seen. (Artificial turf!) The ball was football-shaped white felt that was stamped out of felt square that contained perhaps 10-12 extras. The quarterback/kicker was a metal catapult thing that vaguely resembled the players in size and shape (or maybe it was 2 separate entities; memories fade). The two squads were red plastic/white plastic. It may have come with a rudimentary paint set or perhaps I used model car paint, but the red side became the Skins and the white the Colts. Nowhere near as beautiful as the authors’ work. You guys remind me of the folks who paint toy soldiers with painstaking accuracy. (Ironically, we referred to toy soldiers , cowboys and indians, etc. as “Little Men”). I’m going to resist delving into the sites you reference if possible. Good stuff!
    P.S. Skins always beat the Colts.
    :)

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”373715″]Love the article on the electric football. I used to get the helmet stickers from the football card packs and use them to decorate the field. Such great memories of a more simple time. Great Job!![/quote]

    I’m surprised I never thought of putting helmet stickers on my fields – good idea!

    By the way, if anyone happens to have the Canadian version of this game, http://4.bp.blogspot... I would be more than happy to discuss a trade with you. There’s actually a lady in the Akron area who has one, but I think she wanted 250 bucks for it. Ever since I heard that, I’ve been trying to come up with a way to DIY a CFL game.

  • aflfan | January 23, 2010 at 11:33 am |

    Speaking of electric sports games. Did anyone else have this game?

    http://mysticriverto...

  • Giancarlo | January 23, 2010 at 11:33 am |

    Warms my heart to see an authentic “in-the-sun” Dolphins logo on a Little Electric Man. Amazing work there – reminds me of those Japanese guys who paint detailed landscapes on pigeon eggs & whatnot.

  • Dave G | January 23, 2010 at 11:37 am |

    I always wanted an electric football game when I was a kid, but never got one. The closest thing I had was a Mattel Talking Football game. Anyone remember that one?

  • aflfan | January 23, 2010 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”373720″]I always wanted an electric football game when I was a kid, but never got one. The closest thing I had was a Mattel Talking Football game. Anyone remember that one?[/quote]

    Was that the one with the little records. Where you would pick a record with the play and put it in the player and the defense would then spin it to their play? Then you would push it in the player to hear the result. If so, we had that one as well. My dad was always on the lookout for a better sports game for me and my brother.

  • interlockingtc | January 23, 2010 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”373720″]I always wanted an electric football game when I was a kid, but never got one. The closest thing I had was a Mattel Talking Football game. Anyone remember that one?[/quote]

    Yeah, I had that one. If I recall correctly, the Offensive guy inserted a small black disc into the player (a red box about the size of a coffee cup), then the Defensive guy chose some option–inserted another disc, maybe. Then when you pressed the discs into the player, Dick Enberg (I think) provided the play-by-play. All kind of vague, obviously. I hadn’t thought about it since I read that. But I remember liking the game a lot.

  • Bobby Fenton | January 23, 2010 at 12:26 pm |

    Uni tweaks are fun to fool around with for teams with crappy uniforms, but why anyone would submit them for teams that already look fantastic is beyond me.

    The Browns and Bears should not be touched. Just daydreaming about it is wrong, imo. Those teams look beautiful as they are today.

  • Oakville Endive | January 23, 2010 at 12:43 pm |

    Good job Walter – admittedly a bit impractical, unless the NFL mandates proper sleeves on their unis, but nonetheless nice to look at. Interesting thought for a team to go back to the Canvas look, saw the movie School Ties (includes football scenes set in th 50″s), one of the teams had the canvas look – I think it would look best with the Redskins

    Michigan St/Minnesota is on the tube – what a great old barn – love the seats below court level. The Gophers should really have a retro look to match their stadium – if they did, I would switch the TV to black and white.

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 1:39 pm |

    Love today’s story about electric football and old games.

    My first game was a Tudor from about 1961. The yellow and red guys. I eventually painted the guys green and black for one team and silver and red for the other. A few years ago I got interested in them again and stripped the paint off to go back to the original. I also bought the same set or one close on ebay for a good price.

    My brother and i have gone to 2 conventions that Miggle held. One was in Cleveland when the Browns came back and one at the Hall of Fame. we enjoyed seeing the amazing work some guys do painting the players.

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 1:43 pm |

    My set was the one in this ad with the New York Titan

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 1:52 pm |

    Here I am on Christmas morning when I got my Electric Football game.

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

  • matt in cleveland | January 23, 2010 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”373723″]Uni tweaks are fun to fool around with for teams with crappy uniforms, but why anyone would submit them for teams that already look fantastic is beyond me.

    The Browns and Bears should not be touched. Just daydreaming about it is wrong, imo. Those teams look beautiful as they are today.[/quote]

    oh you can tweak the brown pants out of the uniform all together!!!! also get rid of the AL on the sleeve he was part of the reason they left in the first place, lerner wasnt george halas (a patch for halas on the bears uni is appropriate) learner did nothing for the browns

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 1:56 pm |

    I did buy a newer field about 10-15 years ago and did try and paint a couple of figures myself. And bought a lot of teams and college teams when they came out.

    When I was a kid I played the game more. I had a powerful team I called. Larry’s Golden Dragons.

  • interlockingtc | January 23, 2010 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”373727″]Here I am on Christmas morning when I got my Electric Football game.

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    Great pictures, LarryB. Your sister’s (I presume) reaction to her new doll is priceless, too.

  • kyle. | January 23, 2010 at 2:12 pm |

    scoreboard answer: http://bit.ly/4BC5yH
    march 4, 2009; 51-46; minn over wisc; at williams arena in minneapolis.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 23, 2010 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”373724″]Good job Walter – admittedly a bit impractical, unless the NFL mandates proper sleeves on their unis, but nonetheless nice to look at. Interesting thought for a team to go back to the Canvas look, saw the movie School Ties (includes football scenes set in th 50″s), one of the teams had the canvas look – I think it would look best with the Redskins

    Michigan St/Minnesota is on the tube – what a great old barn – love the seats below court level. The Gophers should really have a retro look to match their stadium – if they did, I would switch the TV to black and white.[/quote]
    Actually. they are not sleeves on the jerseys, but compression shirts worn under the jerseys. Again, not my concept, but Ricko’s, as described in full here at Uni Watch a while back http://www.uniwatchb..., as something of a method to return sleeve striping to it’s more traditional glory. I was simply intrigued by it.
    Clearly, any thought that the NFL might return to putting actual sleeves on jerseys is about as likely as starting a commercially viable unicorn ranch.

  • Johnny O | January 23, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    I am sure this picture has been posted before, but I love seeing Johnny U. in his Chargers gear:

    http://www.inhistori...

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”373718″]Speaking of electric sports games. Did anyone else have this game?

    http://mysticriverto...

    My brother had that. My cousin had this football game, http://images.market... which I ended up with for a while.

    I had this one: http://www.odinartco...

    And who cold forget Super Toe? http://www.feelingre... I used to have that, now I have the new and improved versions:
    Regular size: http://www.ebeanstal...
    Mini version: http://www.plaything...

  • Jet | January 23, 2010 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”373727″]Here I am on Christmas morning when I got my Electric Football game.

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...
    Great pics, Larry! I can imagine the thrill and wonder of tearing open that box!

  • Oakville Endive | January 23, 2010 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”373732″][quote comment=”373724″]Good job Walter – admittedly a bit impractical, unless the NFL mandates proper sleeves on their unis, but nonetheless nice to look at. Interesting thought for a team to go back to the Canvas look, saw the movie School Ties (includes football scenes set in th 50″s), one of the teams had the canvas look – I think it would look best with the Redskins

    Michigan St/Minnesota is on the tube – what a great old barn – love the seats below court level. The Gophers should really have a retro look to match their stadium – if they did, I would switch the TV to black and white.[/quote]
    Actually. they are not sleeves on the jerseys, but compression shirts worn under the jerseys. Again, not my concept, but Ricko’s, as described in full here at Uni Watch a while back http://www.uniwatchb..., as something of a method to return sleeve striping to it’s more traditional glory. I was simply intrigued by it.
    Clearly, any thought that the NFL might return to putting actual sleeves on jerseys is about as likely as starting a commercially viable unicorn ranch.[/quote]

    You know, and no disrespect to Ricko, but I would better odds on the NFL mandating proper sleeves. (hey they mandate tucked in jerseys, pulled up socks, why not the sleeve length must reach the elbow. Although not good odds on either. Not stating anything new here but with merchandise sales being a big revenue stream for the NFL, there is a vested interest to make their jerseys as attractive as possible

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”373725″]Love today’s story about electric football and old games.

    My first game was a Tudor from about 1961. The yellow and red guys. I eventually painted the guys green and black for one team and silver and red for the other. A few years ago I got interested in them again and stripped the paint off to go back to the original. I also bought the same set or one close on ebay for a good price.

    My brother and i have gone to 2 conventions that Miggle held. One was in Cleveland when the Browns came back and one at the Hall of Fame. we enjoyed seeing the amazing work some guys do painting the players.[/quote]

    I went to the one at the Hall of Fame – probably walked right by you, huh? That was right around the time I started getting back into the hobby. Those guys at the convention have so many cool things…custom teams, field covers, giant fields, etc. Great stuff.

  • mike 2 | January 23, 2010 at 3:02 pm |

    Hmmm – with the entire hockey wing in Minneapolis today, I guess I’m the only one here who had this game as a kid.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.

  • mike 2 | January 23, 2010 at 3:04 pm |

    BTW – in that video I linked to above, there are great views of the uniforms on the players, and of team logos on the sides of the game. But check out the odd NHL logo at centre ice – I’ve never seen that logo before (my game had the correct orange-black logo).

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”373735″][quote comment=”373727″]Here I am on Christmas morning when I got my Electric Football game.

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...
    Great pics, Larry! I can imagine the thrill and wonder of tearing open that box![/quote]

    Thanks Jet. I can still remember opening the box that Christmas morning. It was a thrill

  • Liketheriver | January 23, 2010 at 3:09 pm |

    tOSU v WVU color on color today

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”373738″]Hmmm – with the entire hockey wing in Minneapolis today, I guess I’m the only one here who had this game as a kid.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    I had a game like that, but I turned it into another indoor soccer game:
    http://farm4.static....

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”373737″][quote comment=”373725″]Love today’s story about electric football and old games.

    My first game was a Tudor from about 1961. The yellow and red guys. I eventually painted the guys green and black for one team and silver and red for the other. A few years ago I got interested in them again and stripped the paint off to go back to the original. I also bought the same set or one close on ebay for a good price.

    My brother and i have gone to 2 conventions that Miggle held. One was in Cleveland when the Browns came back and one at the Hall of Fame. we enjoyed seeing the amazing work some guys do painting the players.[/quote]

    I went to the one at the Hall of Fame – probably walked right by you, huh? That was right around the time I started getting back into the hobby. Those guys at the convention have so many cool things…custom teams, field covers, giant fields, etc. Great stuff.[/quote]

    Yep. I was there at that time too. My brother lived in Ravenna Ohio at that time. We enjoyed seeing the great work done by the guys. I was still getting the Plugged in little magazine from Miggle for years. Although I have not got one in a while

  • Oakville Endive | January 23, 2010 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”373738″]Hmmm – with the entire hockey wing in Minneapolis today, I guess I’m the only one here who had this game as a kid.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    Great game, it did frustrate me a bit, that the most glamourous team (Boston Bruins) was in a uni that was not current at the time – and as I was 8 at the time, did not fully appreciate the uni was only a few years old. i.e I never saw Bobby Orr in that uni, although I think he did play in it, his first few years.

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”373720″]I always wanted an electric football game when I was a kid, but never got one. The closest thing I had was a Mattel Talking Football game. Anyone remember that one?[/quote]

    My first post got eaten, so I’ll try again without photos.

    I had that game. My brother had the Tudor electric baseball and my cousin had the Foto-electric Hall of Fame game.

    I also had the old Super Toe kicking game. I now have the new and improved BigKick kicker, and the mini-version, the HeadBanger kicker.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 23, 2010 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”373736″][quote comment=”373732″][quote comment=”373724″]Good job Walter – admittedly a bit impractical, unless the NFL mandates proper sleeves on their unis, but nonetheless nice to look at. Interesting thought for a team to go back to the Canvas look, saw the movie School Ties (includes football scenes set in th 50″s), one of the teams had the canvas look – I think it would look best with the Redskins

    Michigan St/Minnesota is on the tube – what a great old barn – love the seats below court level. The Gophers should really have a retro look to match their stadium – if they did, I would switch the TV to black and white.[/quote]
    Actually. they are not sleeves on the jerseys, but compression shirts worn under the jerseys. Again, not my concept, but Ricko’s, as described in full here at Uni Watch a while back http://www.uniwatchb..., as something of a method to return sleeve striping to it’s more traditional glory. I was simply intrigued by it.
    Clearly, any thought that the NFL might return to putting actual sleeves on jerseys is about as likely as starting a commercially viable unicorn ranch.[/quote]

    You know, and no disrespect to Ricko, but I would better odds on the NFL mandating proper sleeves. (hey they mandate tucked in jerseys, pulled up socks, why not the sleeve length must reach the elbow. Although not good odds on either.

    Not stating anything new here but with merchandise sales being a big revenue stream for the NFL, there is a vested interest to make their jerseys as attractive as possible[/quote]
    If you think about it, replica jerseys(they actually have sleeves) would look more like what was actually used on field, than they do now.
    But yes, authentic jerseys would look a bit bland in most cases, and sales might suffer

  • Wolverine2Blazer | January 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm |

    DAMN! Its like everybody is up in MN. Its dead on here. haha. Oh well, I’d rather be getting drunk wearing my shorts and tshirt here in Valdosta than that cold. haha

  • Bill G | January 23, 2010 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”373742″][quote comment=”373738″]Hmmm – with the entire hockey wing in Minneapolis today, I guess I’m the only one here who had this game as a kid.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    I had a game like that, but I turned it into another indoor soccer game:
    http://farm4.static....

    Would that be the Spirit vs. San Diego?

  • Ric | January 23, 2010 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”373745″][quote comment=”373720″]I always wanted an electric football game when I was a kid, but never got one. The closest thing I had was a Mattel Talking Football game. Anyone remember that one?[/quote]

    My first post got eaten, so I’ll try again without photos.

    I had that game. My brother had the Tudor electric baseball and my cousin had the Foto-electric Hall of Fame game.

    I also had the old Super Toe kicking game. I now have the new and improved BigKick kicker, and the mini-version, the HeadBanger kicker.[/quote]

    I’m only 21, but my dad had the Foto-Electric HoF game when he was a kid, and surprisingly kept it around. I spent hours memorizing the play cards (safety valve pass was quite possibly the greatest play in the game). Now I’m going to have to dust it off and bring it back to my dorm.

  • Mike Engle | January 23, 2010 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”373746″][quote comment=”373736″][quote comment=”373732″][quote comment=”373724″]Good job Walter – admittedly a bit impractical, unless the NFL mandates proper sleeves on their unis, but nonetheless nice to look at. Interesting thought for a team to go back to the Canvas look, saw the movie School Ties (includes football scenes set in th 50″s), one of the teams had the canvas look – I think it would look best with the Redskins

    Michigan St/Minnesota is on the tube – what a great old barn – love the seats below court level. The Gophers should really have a retro look to match their stadium – if they did, I would switch the TV to black and white.[/quote]
    Actually. they are not sleeves on the jerseys, but compression shirts worn under the jerseys. Again, not my concept, but Ricko’s, as described in full here at Uni Watch a while back http://www.uniwatchb..., as something of a method to return sleeve striping to it’s more traditional glory. I was simply intrigued by it.
    Clearly, any thought that the NFL might return to putting actual sleeves on jerseys is about as likely as starting a commercially viable unicorn ranch.[/quote]

    You know, and no disrespect to Ricko, but I would better odds on the NFL mandating proper sleeves. (hey they mandate tucked in jerseys, pulled up socks, why not the sleeve length must reach the elbow. Although not good odds on either.

    Not stating anything new here but with merchandise sales being a big revenue stream for the NFL, there is a vested interest to make their jerseys as attractive as possible[/quote]
    If you think about it, replica jerseys(they actually have sleeves) would look more like what was actually used on field, than they do now.
    But yes, authentic jerseys would look a bit bland in most cases, and sales might suffer[/quote]
    But the official compression shirt could make back that loss. Short-sleeve version, long-sleeve version, even a cotton version for street wear under the authentic!
    (Not really my idea: it’s Ricko’s.)

  • Squiddie | January 23, 2010 at 3:35 pm |

    Did anyone ever play Phil and Tony Esposito’s Action Hockey? If I remember correctly, both players had two handheld magnets that they used to move little cylindrical players. The rink was covered with clear plastic and one team used his magnets on the top of the game and the other used his magnets underneath the rink. It sounds kinda dorky, but it was a pretty good game. There was even a penalty box with a little door.

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 3:38 pm |

    Great uni-tweaks, guys!

    My favorites are probably Walt’s Bills, Broncos and Texans.

    Andrew, I don’t follow hockey as much as other sports – what’s this about no all-star game? Nice jerseys.

    Ryan, you gotta have some neon green! ;) I’d wear your unis, though, even as they are.

    Julian, bringing back the gold makes a big difference. Well done.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 23, 2010 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”373750″][quote comment=”373746″][quote comment=”373736″][quote comment=”373732″][quote comment=”373724″]
    If you think about it, replica jerseys(they actually have sleeves) would look more like what was actually used on field, than they do now.
    But yes, authentic jerseys would look a bit bland in most cases, and sales might suffer[/quote]
    But the official compression shirt could make back that loss. Short-sleeve version, long-sleeve version, even a cotton version for street wear under the authentic!
    (Not really my idea: it’s Ricko’s.)[/quote]
    Thanks Mike. Right after I posted, I realized I should have mentioned that too

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”373748″][quote comment=”373742″][quote comment=”373738″]Hmmm – with the entire hockey wing in Minneapolis today, I guess I’m the only one here who had this game as a kid.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    I had a game like that, but I turned it into another indoor soccer game:
    http://farm4.static....

    Would that be the Spirit vs. San Diego?[/quote]

    Tacoma Stars vs. Cleveland Force (trust me on the fuzzy close-up): http://farm3.static....

  • aflfan | January 23, 2010 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”373744″][quote comment=”373738″]Hmmm – with the entire hockey wing in Minneapolis today, I guess I’m the only one here who had this game as a kid.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    Great game, it did frustrate me a bit, that the most glamourous team (Boston Bruins) was in a uni that was not current at the time – and as I was 8 at the time, did not fully appreciate the uni was only a few years old. i.e I never saw Bobby Orr in that uni, although I think he did play in it, his first few years.[/quote]

    I had a later version (probably around 75) of that game. It had the Bruins and the Flyers (if I remember right. I was alway upset that it did have the Wings but the sucked back then. I remember that it came with a little Stanley Cup.

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm |

    If you thought electric football was a throwback to simpler times, dig what the British played back in the old days:
    http://www.youtube.c...
    I have this too, and that’s what inspired me to make the MISL game.

  • Jet | January 23, 2010 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”373744″]

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    Great game, it did frustrate me a bit, that the most glamourous team (Boston Bruins) was in a uni that was not current at the time – and as I was 8 at the time, did not fully appreciate the uni was only a few years old. i.e I never saw Bobby Orr in that uni, although I think he did play in it, his first few years.[/quote]

    I had the Munro Bobby Hull game from 1971 and ordered all the rest of the teams beyond Toronto and Montreal who came with the game.

    Only Detroit, Chicago were in home whites; all the other teams were depicted in road colors (including Buffalo and Vancouver). But in this game also, Boston was depicted in “home” yellow when in fact their home jersey had been white for some years.

    Also in this game, both sides of the player showed the front view, as opposed to the one you mentioned which shows a front and back side to the player. They didn’t use actual jersey logos, instead it just said “Boston”, “Montreal” etc. across the front.

    Being the fanatical 13-year-old that I was, I drew tiny logos for all the teams in colored pencil on cardboard, cut them out and taped them to each player!!

  • LarryB | January 23, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”373756″]If you thought electric football was a throwback to simpler times, dig what the British played back in the old days:
    http://www.youtube.c...
    I have this too, and that’s what inspired me to make the MISL game.[/quote]

    I used to like the commercials for Subbuteo. My brother bought a game a few years ago on ebay. But we never played it.

  • ren | January 23, 2010 at 6:49 pm |

    to lazy to end it in (srry) but i made a carolina panthers wearing black pants with road jersey. does anyone think tht would look good?

  • Joe M. | January 23, 2010 at 6:49 pm |

    Just a minor note, but I didn’t see it in the comments anywhere. The Boston Bruins wore their Winter Classic uniforms in their game today.

  • Joe | January 23, 2010 at 8:06 pm |

    Man… this article brought back memories. I too had the exact type of electric football that was identified in the story. I remember being upset on Christmas because I received it as a gift from a family friend, and that family friend gave the Super Bowl version (the one with NFL teams, as opposed to unpainted players) to someone else that day. What made that day great was that my parents got me the Coleco NHL table hockey set for Christmas that same year. I was always playing with the two of them, though the hockey one was always my favorite. When I got married 20 years ago, my wife got me a new electric football set, and a new Coleco table hockey set for our first Christmas. I still have them both in great condition (and I picked up extra teams on the side for both sets). If you are interested, there is a new company called Miggle that picked up the old electric football license, though now it is with college teams. They can be found at http://www.miggle.co....

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”373759″]to lazy to end it in (srry) but i made a carolina panthers wearing black pants with road jersey. does anyone think tht would look good?[/quote]

    Striped black pants? That might work.

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”373741″]tOSU v WVU color on color today[/quote]

    Yep. http://espn-i.starwa...

    So was NC State and Maryland: http://espn-i.starwa...

    Does dirty white or light gray count? If so then UConn went color vs. color with Texas: http://espn-i.starwa...

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 8:56 pm |

    Charlotte Bobcats wore the NASCAR unis today against Orlando:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • leon | January 23, 2010 at 8:57 pm |

    “Does dirty white or light gray count? If so then UConn went color vs. color with Texas: http://espn-i.starwa…”

    Hoyas/Rutgers too:

    http://sportsillustr...

  • leon | January 23, 2010 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”373764″]Charlotte Bobcats wore the NASCAR unis today against Orlando:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

    Check those out!

  • Kyle Campbell | January 23, 2010 at 9:18 pm |

    The USHL is the top amateur league in the US, and they awarded a team to a group from Dubuque, IA, for admittance into the USHL.

    Dubuque had a USHL team from 1980-2001, called the Fighting Saints. Their jerseys and colors were based off the Canadiens jerseys.

    In the interim, Dubuque got a lower level amateur team called the Thunderbirds, and they originally were based off the Colorado Avalanche, but recently changed their brand to something more unique.

    After a voting contest onilne to determine the new team name, the group announced today the identity of the new USHL team in DBQ. The main contenders were Thunderbirds and Fighting Saints, with varying color schemes. The new team is going back to DBQ’s USHL roots and are calling themselves the Fighting Saints. The new colors are Red & White, with silver accents, to differentiate themselves from the failures of the former Saints team in their waning years.

    Saints Old Logo: http://image09.websh...
    OLd Thunderbirds Logo: http://www.logoserve...
    New Thunderbirds Jerseys: http://farm3.static....
    New Thunderbirds Logo: http://www.fiveflags...
    New Saints Logo: http://www.ushl.com/...

    I say that the new logo is an improvement.

  • Kyle Campbell | January 23, 2010 at 9:19 pm |

    Another new logo

    http://mostlyrandomp...

  • JimV19 | January 23, 2010 at 9:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”373769″]Another new logo

    http://mostlyrandomp...

    Nice and simple. I kinda like that.

  • Kyle Campbell | January 23, 2010 at 9:58 pm |

    Saints old Logo
    http://www.thebatche...

    Video linking to unveiling with second and third logos in the video
    http://www.kcrg.com/...

  • aflfan | January 23, 2010 at 10:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”373772″]Saints old Logo
    http://www.thebatche...

    Video linking to unveiling with second and third logos in the video
    http://www.kcrg.com/...

    That looks like the old Minnesota Fighting Saints logo

    http://www.myhockeyt...

  • aflfan | January 23, 2010 at 10:10 pm |

    And of course, the Minnesota New Fighting Saints.

    http://rynomi.files....

  • Jeff P | January 23, 2010 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”373757″][quote comment=”373744″]

    I think every Canadian kid in the 1970s had some version of this. The version I had had little tiny gears under the players, you had to keep them oiled or they rusted like silly. It came with player sets for the original six, you could buy more sets at the store (I think I had the original six plus the 1967 expansion teams).

    You see that the backs of the jerseys are blank. We’d draw names and numbers on the backs for each team’s top lines, at least for teams we cared about (nobody cared who played for Oakland or Los Angeles). Then after a big trade (Orr to Chicago, Esposito for Park) we’d have to try to wipe the numbers off and put the new names and numbers on.[/quote]

    Great game, it did frustrate me a bit, that the most glamourous team (Boston Bruins) was in a uni that was not current at the time – and as I was 8 at the time, did not fully appreciate the uni was only a few years old. i.e I never saw Bobby Orr in that uni, although I think he did play in it, his first few years.[/quote]

    I had the Munro Bobby Hull game from 1971 and ordered all the rest of the teams beyond Toronto and Montreal who came with the game.

    Only Detroit, Chicago were in home whites; all the other teams were depicted in road colors (including Buffalo and Vancouver). But in this game also, Boston was depicted in “home” yellow when in fact their home jersey had been white for some years.

    Also in this game, both sides of the player showed the front view, as opposed to the one you mentioned which shows a front and back side to the player. They didn’t use actual jersey logos, instead it just said “Boston”, “Montreal” etc. across the front.

    Being the fanatical 13-year-old that I was, I drew tiny logos for all the teams in colored pencil on cardboard, cut them out and taped them to each player!![/quote]

    My dad had one of those growing up. It’s currently set up in our basement at home. He didn’t get any of the other teams though, not even his local blackhawks. Shame.

    But his is older- only O6 and expansion six on the league scoreboard.

    It also has a goal light system. The pucks land in the net and it causes two pieces of metal to complete a circuit that turns on a red light. We don’t have the red lights, they were on a post that would plug into the board.

    His also came with players you could sub in at center that were basically two pieces joined at a 110 degree angle or so so you could stickhandle with the center much better. Still have those.

    I would say it doesn’t work, but it works just fine for my brother. Maybe one of these days I can draft a competent goalie…

  • Patrick in MI | January 24, 2010 at 12:06 am |

    Florida Panthers wore their alt blues tonight against Toronto. I don’t think they looked too bad! However, I’ve always associated navy/powder blues with northern teams (cold/ice?) for whatever reason. Also, Vokoun’s pads were red which made him stand out like a sore thumb. Auto-play gallery here http://panthers.nhl....|FLA|home

  • Jeff P | January 24, 2010 at 12:40 am |

    Have that association if you want, but I love ’em. As a uniform, they’re great. And at a hunch, I’m going to say those are the new homes next year or the year after that.

  • Jeff P | January 24, 2010 at 12:41 am |

    But they could stand to ditch the circle around the crest.