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Monday Morning Uni Watch (Or: Has Adams let go of that facemask yet? Nope, didn’t think so.)

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Pretty good weekend: Went flea-marketing and bought an old medical poster showing the workings of the human eyeball, had my upstairs neighbors come down for dinner (made port-braised lamb shanks and short ribs, mmmmm), bought a few vintage pencil sharpeners for a project I have in mind, checked out the Kandinsky show at the Guggenheim (where I was surprised to bump into my brother) and then walked up to East Harlem for Mexican food.

Oh, and watched some football. Not a whole lot, frankly (just as well, since the teams I was rooting for lost all four games), but enough to notice a few things of interest:

• Chad Bengal became the first Cincy player to opt for Reebok’s new stretchy jersey, complete with the paper towel-esque fabric, the too-low NFL Equipment shield, and the sorry excuse for an NOB. As he’d promised, he also wore his Chris Henry tribute gloves.

• Here’s a weird one: Darrelle Revis’s intro mug shot showed him wearing a jersey with the old NFL logo instead of the NFL Equipment logo.

• Look at the ribbed trim on Mike Jenkins’s arm-sleeve thingies — those are totally socks! Apparently he’s been wearing them for a while now.

• Speaking of the old NFL logo, what the hell was it doing on the NFL Matchup coffee mugs?

• Bill Belichick wore Pat Patriot on his headwear. Too bad the rest of the Pats didn’t do the same.

•  The Packers don’t wear captaincy patches during the regular season, but they brought them out for the playoffs, just like they did two years ago. Looks like Rodgers only got one gold star, even though he must have been a captain at some point last season, because this was his first year (and first game, for that matter) wearing the patch.

• Latest Packer to wear the stretchy: Nick Barnett. Here’s his pathetic NOB.

• Nick Collins was apparently trying to set some kind of record for biceps bands.

• Was Steve Breaston’s waistband too small? And did he have a “POWER” codpiece or something in there?

• Many (but not all) of the coaching staffs this weekend were wearing little “TD” pins, in memory of NFL operations director Tim Davey, who died last week.

Never thought I’d be saying this, esp. this season, but here it is: Go Vikings. At least for this week.

(Thanks to all who contributed screen shots and observations, including Chris Cocuzza, Terence Kearns, Doug Keklak, Jared Speckma, and Drew Nolan.)

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Yinzer Watch Report: Doug Keklak, Ryan Connelly, and several other Steeltown-area readers organized a Pittsburgh Uni Watch gathering last Thursday evening. Jason Bernard has prepared the following report on the attendees and what they wore:

• Ladies first. The beautiful Jenny Sweet wore a sweet vintage Mean Joe Greene “One for the Thumb in 81” raglan. Looks good on you, Jenny.

• Avid DIYer Ryan Connelly did not make this sharp Bristol rugby jersey. But he loves Bass Ale, so he had to have it. It matched his Penguins skullcap and Uni Watch membership card nicely, and as the dad from Friday will tell you, you have to coordinate.

• Here’s Wayne Jones, wearing a very nice Penguins throwback from Ebbets Field Flannels. Ever the diligent multi-tasker, Wayne also showed off his game-worn Pittsburgh Maulers jersey (which he found at a thrift store) while belting out a stirring rendition of “I Will Always Love You.” Please pick your jaw up off the floor, Jim Vilk.

• Doug Keklak briefly woke from the dead to sport this throwback Mario Lemieux jersey. Yes, Doug, I had better pictures of you. But this one’s funny, right?

• Notice anything fishy about Doug’s Lemieux jersey? Jerry Wolper did. Here’s J-Wol in a classy-looking Pittsburgh Hornets jersey (can you tell it’s hockey season in Pittsburgh?). The picture does not do that patch justice.

• Last and least, here’s me, wearing a red-and-green Lokomotiv Moscow jacket. The choice was a fortunate coincidence, since the date of our gathering happened to be Russian Orthodox Christmas.

Our numbers were few, but our laughs were many, and a good time was had by all. Next time, we promise to pick a sunny weekend afternoon.

Maybe next time you should hold the gathering at Rico’s, or at least invite their chef, Dennis DeLuca, who has a huge collection of Steelers memorabilia. According to that article, DeLuca’s trove includes lots of “action figures he spends days painting accurately, right down to the color of their socks and shoes.” Sounds like our kinda guy.

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ITEM!: Raffle news you can use: Last spring, around the time that the Lions and Jags unveiled their new uniforms, I acquired this box. Inside was a new Lions jersey — a Calvin Johnson jersey, to be exact — along with assorted inspirational messages (some of them admittedly of dubious hype value).

I have also acquired a similar box for the Jaguars. It’s unopened — still in its original shrinkwrap, in fact — so I don’t know whose jersey is inside, what size it is, or anything else. (Yes, Maurice Jones-Drew is shown on the box, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything; the Lions box showed Kevin Smith.)

This Jags box is a unique and potentially quite valuable item. I’d like to see a Uni Watch reader end up with it, but I can’t just give it away. So let’s do this: If we can rack up 20 new sign-ups for the Uni Watch Membership Program by January 18th — that’s one week from today — I’ll put the box up for a raffle (and of course the new enrollees, like all members, will get three bonus entries in that raffle). So if you’ve been meaning to make the membership scene, now’s the time.

Important Update, 3:30pm eastern: PayPal has suspended my account because they say offering bonus raffle entries as a membership benefit amounts to running a gambling operation. So I can no longer offer bonus raffle entries for members (which I hope will prompt them to reinstate my account). I’ll have more to say about this tomorrow. If anyone who signed up today feels this is a bait-and-switch and wants a membership refund, get in touch with me pronto and we’ll work it out.

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Speaking of the membership program, there are some great new designs in the card gallery, including Joe Exner’s card, based on his rugby team. Also noteworthy: Michael McLaughlin’s Colorado Mammoth-based card (that’s a lacrosse team, kids) and E. Lindsey Hall III’s old-school Sacramento Kings card (a simple but fascinating design, because the NOB is subscript and is also one of the very few NBA NOBs to employ a nameplate instead of direct-sewn lettering).

Uni Watch News Ticker: If you haven’t seen the pond hockey documentary that came out in 2008, you can watch the whole thing on Hulu. Recommended (with thanks to Stanislaw Olechowski). ”¦ Tons of old international sports event logos available here (great find by Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ AWESOME column + video about Patrick Kane’s mouthguard (big thanks to James Huening). ”¦ Rob McLaughlin notes that Jacoby Ellsbury, who had worn No. 46, is now listed on the Bosox roster as No. 2. ”¦ Oh man, how awesome is this 1964 girls’ hoops shot? It’s from a Facebook group called “I Played 6 on 6 Basketball in Iowa.” Lots of other good pics in the group’s photo album (with thanks to Tim Bosler). ”¦ Latest person to weigh in on the American Needle/Supreme Court case: Drew Brees, who offers the player’s perspective (with thanks to Sam McCullough). ”¦ Check out this Expos-esque logo. “The stem of the ‘b’ has been turned white to make a white capital H,” notes Michael Kramer. “My first guess would be that it was an old/prototype logo for the Expos’ long-time AA affiliate in Harrisburg.” Seems reasonable. Can anyone confirm or refute? ”¦ New MLS jerseys are reviewed here (with thanks to Scott Steinberg). ”¦ Whoa, here’s a major discovery: an old baseball uniform — 1950s or ’60s, looks like — with a uni number on the pant leg, way before the Astros brought that style to the big leagues. If you click-to-zoom on the photos, you’ll see that the number is actually chain-stitched onto the pants — yowza! ”¦ This is probably the worst-kept secret in MLB, but here’s the Giants’ new alternate jersey, which will be paired with this cap. ”¦ CMU’s Jeremy Wilson appears to have had “EAT” written on a towel or something like that the other night (as noted by Steven Czarnecki). ”¦ Rick DiPietro has a new mask, again with the POW theme (with thanks to John Muir). ”¦ And speaking of new masks, Josh Harding’s new design includes all sorts of references to the team’s recent equipment fire. ”¦ Look at these gorgeous erasers. They’re from an awesome new blog that presents a new collection for each day of the year (great find, Kirsten). ”¦ In case you missed Phil’s mention of it yesterday, awesome move by B.U. in the Frozen Fenway game, as they went with Bosox-style lettering and a hanging-skates sleeve logo! ”¦ Hmmm, this would make a perfect pairing with my “Meats” tee (nice find by Matt Newbery). ”¦ Not sure I’ve ever seen a head coach wearing the team logo on this side of his chest (good spot by Brinke Guthrie). ”¦ So many notworthy details in this shot: (1) Richard Todd’s off-center NOB; (2) Lou Holtz’s checked pants; (3) That awesome sideline jacket; and (4) the Jets’ sleeve stripes extending all the way down to the underarm. Also, does it look like Todd has a load in his diaper or what? ”¦ Tremendous Cornhuskers helmet-as-ice bucket available here (rare ticker contribution from resident genius Robert Marshall). ”¦ Chris Staggs says the Lincoln Stars of the USHL have “one of the best hockey uniforms I’ve ever seen.” Not sure I’d go that far, but I’d agree that they generally look pretty sharp. Most interesting aspect of their design: white uni numbers on a cream background. Sounds bad but looks surprisingly okay in the photos I’ve found. ”¦ Excellent spot by Doug Keklak, who noticed that Josh LeRibeus of SMU has a lowercase “e” in his NOB. ”¦ You know how the White Sox wear “Halfway to St. Patrick’s Day” uniforms? Zach Brady reports that the Missouri Mavericks wore “Halfway to Indpendence Day” unis the other night. ”¦ Fucking awesome set of 1970s NFL metal disk thingies available here (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). ”¦ Geoff Poole notes that Kansas State wears a small jersey patch. It’s been there all season. Anyone know what it’s for? ”¦ MLB’s Elmer Fudd caps debuted in the 2008 postseason, but the Blue Jays were running this ad at least five years earlier (nice find by Peter Kurilecz). ”¦ Extremely interesting analysis of the Pirates’ bumblebee-era uni manufacturers here. Lots of fascinating info, but I was particularly interested in the old newspaper article shown on this page, which indicates that the Buccos’ 1970 pullovers — MLB’s first double-knits — were 60% nylon and 40% cotton. I didn’t realize they had any natural-fiber content. Explains why some of the 1970s double-knits looked and draped so much better than today’s 100%-polyester disasters (big thanks to Dave Grob). … Tremendous post on the Fleer Sticker Project, comparing wire service photos to the photos in Topps World Series cards. … Great catch by Erkki Corpuz, who notes that the team logo patch worn on the shorts of the 1972-73 Lakers appears to have had a “World Champions” notation. ”¦ “NFL Countdown this Saturday morning featured a story about DeMarcus Ware,” writes Tom Adjemian. “Looks like he’s got some MLB branded cleats/sneakers in his locker.” … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Most of you know that Kenny Burrough wore double-zero for the Oilers, but did you know he also wore that number for the Saints? Photo taken by Ricko himself! … Cycling news from Jeff Mayer: (1) Columbia-HTC is now HTC-Columbia, and (2) Fuji-Servetto is now Footon-Servetto. ”¦ Pretty much every riflery photo you could want — every uni detail, for every participating team — can be found here (with thanks to Tyler Hull). … DeShawn Stevenson had a shout-out to Gilbert Arenas on his ankle tape last night.

 
  
 
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    The San Francisco Giants have one of the best uniform sets in baseball. Why’d they have to go and ruin it by adding a solid orange alt?

    Even though I’m a huge Giants fan, I hadn’t yet seen the new alternate. Love the hat, but that thing is horrible. I can’t imagine how it looks good on the field. And for the love of God, please ditch that gold trim.

    OK, seriously. It’s kinda cute that you guys are such uni snobs all the fucking time, but enough with the PMSing over the new Reebok jersey. Are they too tight? Yes. But they’re not bad. The NOB is fine. The NFL Equipment logo is fine. It’s a form fitting, college style jersey, and it’s just fine. I hope more teams switch to it next year, if for no other reason than to drive you nuts.

    Paul –

    Speaking of flea markets, maybe you want to interview Kirk over at link for an upcoming post. He finds some great stuff in Southern California and has an incredible store in LA with tons of jerseys, Vintage Starter gear, hats and classic t-shirts…almost all sports related.

    [quote comment=”371745″]OK, seriously. It’s kinda cute that you guys are such uni snobs all the fucking time, but enough with the PMSing over the new Reebok jersey. Are they too tight? Yes. But they’re not bad. The NOB is fine. The NFL Equipment logo is fine. It’s a form fitting, college style jersey, and it’s just fine. I hope more teams switch to it next year, if for no other reason than to drive you nuts.[/quote]

    I may be wrong in this, but the biggest issue with them isn’t the jersey itself, it’s that it makes the player fundamentally different from his teammates. If everyone wore them there wouldn’t be as much of an issue.

    The Patrick Kane article really, really bugs me. To the point that I think I’m going to have to write to the columnist. The columnist essentially advocates children wearing a vastly important pieces of protective equipment so incorrectly that it offers no protection. I’m not concerned with the kids’ teeth, they’re all wearing cages until they’re 18 anyway. But what about concussions? Studies have shown that a simple mouthpiece can limit the severity of a concussion or even avoid some of them. If you aren’t wearing your mouthpiece you are far more prone to them.

    I know when I was in high school and college I chewed on my mouthpiece much like Kane, non-custom mouth pieces are not comfortable, and I paid the price in the form of 5 concussions in 8 years.

    It was a good article and it was about a fun topic, but blowing off the idea that kids could imitate it because “there are worse adolescent evils…” That makes me cringe.

    (I apologize, but concussions in kids and our attitudes toward them because we can’t see a brain injury is one of my biggest hot buttons. Some day a young kid is going to suffer a catastrophic brain injury because of helmet to helmet hits in pop warner or because they refuse to wear their equipment properly. And the adults that enable them will have to face themselves.)

    I’m no Giants fan…but I love baseball unis, and I think that orange Giants shirt is awesome. Pair it with some black pants with orange piping and stirrups and just call it a day (like this: link ). Can’t you picture Timmy dealing in a set like that?

    Why, after reading that article about the Pirates’ 1970 uniforms, do I feel like I am hearing Ricko talk about fins on 1950s Chryslers? (“Everybody wants one. They’re the new thing!” Yes, just like light blue polyester tuxedos for the prom.)

    Paul Lukas said – “Never thought I’d be saying this, esp. this season, but here it is: Go Vikings. At least for this week.”

    Thanks Paul, I’ll still read your site. Always have. Go Cowboys!

    Never thought I’d be saying this, esp. this season, but here it is: Go Vikings. At least for this week.

    especially this week

    [quote comment=”371747″][quote comment=”371745″]OK, seriously. It’s kinda cute that you guys are such uni snobs all the fucking time, but enough with the PMSing over the new Reebok jersey. Are they too tight? Yes. But they’re not bad. The NOB is fine. The NFL Equipment logo is fine. It’s a form fitting, college style jersey, and it’s just fine. I hope more teams switch to it next year, if for no other reason than to drive you nuts.[/quote]

    I may be wrong in this, but the biggest issue with them isn’t the jersey itself, it’s that it makes the player fundamentally different from his teammates. If everyone wore them there wouldn’t be as much of an issue.[/quote]
    The Jaguars wear them as a team, in something like four separate versions. I would bet that if you looked at any photo of the Jags this year, with more than two people, you will see at least two different uniforms.

    The Kings names are subscript of course. A typo I am sure, but what is this board if not pointlessly obsessive.

    From the Kansas State media guide about their uni patch…

    All K-State players wear a patch signifying their partnership with the 1st Battalion, 7th Field Artillery Regiment that is stationed at the local military base, Fort Riley, in nearby Junction City, Kan. On Sept. 11, the team spent the day at Fort Riley with the Regiment and experienced a day as a soldier. Arriving on base at 7 a.m., the team took part in the September 11 anniversary ceremony, Gun Truck Simulator training, Paladin Howitzer and Artillery Simulation training and a tour of the Big Red One Division Headquarters and Victory Park. On Sept 25-26, the Regiment spent the day as student-athletes going to class, working out and hanging out with the players.

    Rawlings offered a few different knit fabrics in the ’70s. The Pirates’ jerseys were probably a plain jersey knit fabric of 60% stretch nylon and 40% Durene cotton. This combo started to replace the nylon/Durene combo from the 50’s and 60’s.
    Other fabric choices included 100% stretch nylon plain jersey knit and 100% stretch nylon double knit.

    Man, the Brown University women’s hockey team has some real equipment issues. Pillows for goalie pads? link

    [quote comment=”371755″]The Kings names are subscript of course. A typo I am sure, but what is this board if not pointlessly obsessive.[/quote]

    Oops — brain cramp on my part. Thanks for pointing it out. Now fixed.

    from late last night’s comments:

    mookworth said:

    Why are they referring to this as the last Civil War basketball game?

    It’s the last one at The Pit aka McArthur Court. The Ducks are moving to new digs next year.

    ******

    Maybe I’m missing something, but why would a venue change make them stop referring to the game as “the civil war”? Is it possible the announcer misspoke and meant to say “this is the last civil war game at the pit?”

    [quote comment=”371749″]I’m no Giants fan…but I love baseball unis, and I think that orange Giants shirt is awesome. Pair it with some black pants with orange piping and stirrups and just call it a day (like this: link ). Can’t you picture Timmy dealing in a set like that?[/quote]

    If the Giants wear orange pants with the orange jerseys, then I could get behind this uniform change.

    Quick note on the Jacoby Ellsbury item…he’s wanted #2 all along, but that number was taken by bench coach Brad Mills. Now that Millsy has moved on to manage the Astros, the number was available.

    Paul,you’re a great writer, and you put together a great blog…love it. Just one request? Stop dropping f-bombs in your blog. You’re a better writer than that; they’re just not necessary to get your point across. Thanks.

    With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.

    [quote comment=”371744″]Even though I’m a huge Giants fan, I hadn’t yet seen the new alternate. Love the hat, but that thing is horrible. I can’t imagine how it looks good on the field. And for the love of God, please ditch that gold trim.[/quote]
    I’m also a Giants fan and I agree about the gold trim. I would also like to see them get rid of the cream colored unis – the novelty of them has worn off for me.

    [quote comment=”371767″]Paul,you’re a great writer, and you put together a great blog…love it. Just one request? Stop dropping f-bombs in your blog. You’re a better writer than that; they’re just not necessary to get your point across. Thanks.[/quote]

    My writing on this site is meant to be conversational, reflecting the way I actually talk. And when actually talking, I sometimes use words like “fuck” and “shit.” Simple as that. Those words are not better (or worse) than any other words — they’re just words, part of the communication toolkit. By singling them out for special attention, you’re imbuing them with much more power than I am.

    [quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”371771″][quote comment=”371767″]Paul,you’re a great writer, and you put together a great blog…love it. Just one request? Stop dropping f-bombs in your blog. You’re a better writer than that; they’re just not necessary to get your point across. Thanks.[/quote]

    My writing on this site is meant to be conversational, reflecting the way I actually talk. And when actually talking, I sometimes use words like “fuck” and “shit.” Simple as that. Those words are not better (or worse) than any other words — they’re just words, part of the communication toolkit. By singling them out for special attention, you’re imbuing them with much more power than I am.[/quote]

    Amen!

    not only is lou holtz wearing the checked pants, it looks like the whole coaching staff got poured into those sans-a-belts.

    side note: did anyone else have an epiphany when it occurred to you that “sansabelt” means “without a belt?” my ears heard it as a one word name which i had always considered just a brand name. when i realized the meaning, it hit me like a ton of bricks thereby making me feel amazingly stupid.

    [quote comment=”371743″]The San Francisco Giants have one of the best uniform sets in baseball. Why’d they have to go and ruin it by adding a solid orange alt?[/quote]

    this is the rare occassion when san francisco has looked to cleveland for inspiration… with disastrous results. link. link.

    [quote comment=”371776″][quote comment=”371743″]The San Francisco Giants have one of the best uniform sets in baseball. Why’d they have to go and ruin it by adding a solid orange alt?[/quote]

    this is the rare occassion when san francisco has looked to cleveland for inspiration… with disastrous results. link. link.[/quote]

    oops! sorry, kek! what i meant to say was “link.”

    [quote comment=”371765″][quote comment=”371749″]I’m no Giants fan…but I love baseball unis, and I think that orange Giants shirt is awesome. Pair it with some black pants with orange piping and stirrups and just call it a day (like this: link ). Can’t you picture Timmy dealing in a set like that?[/quote]

    If the Giants wear orange pants with the orange jerseys, then I could get behind this uniform change.[/quote]

    What?! Why go to an ugly monochrome 1970s look? The orange jersey is fine, minus the stupid gold trim & the black/orange/black trim that needs white.

    [quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Curious, but if you have two players, with numerals 0 and 00, which player gets listed first on the roster?

    Do wish the NCAA and NFL allowed those numbers for football. Why not?

    Next time I customize a jersey, I think that I am gonna get the 1967 Saints “0” for Obert Logan.

    [quote comment=”371765″]If the Giants wear orange pants with the orange jerseys, then I could get behind this uniform change.[/quote]

    …and get something like link?

    Maybe not new, but the Packers who wore the new-fangled jersey yesterday did so with nameplates, not direct sewn NOBs. The ends of the plates were fully rounded. Sorry, I have not photographic evidence…

    I thought I noticed something odd about Ochocinco’s nameplate. As usual, you’re all over it. Great post today.

    [quote comment=”371780″][quote comment=”371765″]If the Giants wear orange pants with the orange jerseys, then I could get behind this uniform change.[/quote]

    …and get something like link?[/quote]

    …or this abomination:
    link

    In the pic of DeShawn Stevenson, is he wearing Antwan Jamison’s shoes? Check out the embroidery on the velcro strap:

    link

    And I LOVE what BU did with their jerseys.

    [quote comment=”371779″][quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Curious, but if you have two players, with numerals 0 and 00, which player gets listed first on the roster?

    Do wish the NCAA and NFL allowed those numbers for football. Why not?

    Next time I customize a jersey, I think that I am gonna get the 1967 Saints “0” for Obert Logan.[/quote]
    Wow. Good question. Anyone got a 1996 Bulls preseason roster lying around? Randy Brown wore #0 and Robert Parish was wearing #00.

    Brown switched to #1 when the regular season started.

    [quote comment=”371762″]Speaking of flea markets…
    link[/quote]

    Hopefully the the police will seize all those Reebok stretchugly jerseys as fakes…

    OK, I tried to be the better person and didn’t post my initial observations a couple hours ago. I expected someone else to run with it, but so far no one has so here it is…Anyone else think the girl in the Dodgers/Meats type shirt enjoys a few of the product featured on her chest?

    [quote comment=”371783″][quote comment=”371780″][quote comment=”371765″]If the Giants wear orange pants with the orange jerseys, then I could get behind this uniform change.[/quote]

    …and get something like link?[/quote]

    …or this abomination:
    link

    or this

    link

    [quote comment=”371779″][quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Curious, but if you have two players, with numerals 0 and 00, which player gets listed first on the roster?

    Do wish the NCAA and NFL allowed those numbers for football. Why not?

    Next time I customize a jersey, I think that I am gonna get the 1967 Saints “0” for Obert Logan.[/quote]
    While basketball allows both link and link, I think any individual team is not allowed to use both numbers.

    Were it me, I’d list “0” first, followed by “00”, followed by the rest of the numbers… but What Do I Know?

    By the way…RyCo 40, Kek…that pond down the street from me has been frozen and we have been skating there for a few weeks now.

    Also…with tOSU football: When their merit stickers are awarded, is there a rhyme or reason as to how they are placed?

    [quote comment=”371759″][quote comment=”371755″] A typo I am sure, but what is this board if not pointlessly obsessive.[/quote]

    I like that “pointlessly obsessive,” Matt. Perfect, in fact.

    ***
    “… Tons of old international sports event logos available here (great find by Jeremy Brahm). …”

    I am a total sucker for BrahmWorld, of course, but this particular site unearthed by Jeremy is beyond fabulous. I mean, what is better than a site that features an exhaustive collection of mascots from second-rank international track meets?

    ***

    [quote comment=”371771″][quote comment=”371767″]Paul,you’re a great writer, and you put together a great blog…love it. Just one request? Stop dropping f-bombs in your blog. You’re a better writer than that; they’re just not necessary to get your point across. Thanks.[/quote]

    My writing on this site is meant to be conversational, reflecting the way I actually talk. And when actually talking, I sometimes use words like “fuck” and “shit.” Simple as that. Those words are not better (or worse) than any other words — they’re just words, part of the communication toolkit. By singling them out for special attention, you’re imbuing them with much more power than I am.[/quote]

    Interesting topic. Your style is successfully conversational, Paul, no question about it. And you’re very good at it. And I never am offended or shocked or anything. But I guess I am ancient enough to wonder if there isn’t some normative advantage in maintaining a general distinction between written discourse — even blog discourse — and the spoken word. My thoughts are a mess on this, really, very preliminary, but for some reason or other I feel discomfort at the frequency of your fuck, not the word itself. Prudishness? Yeah, maybe. Other readers?

    [quote comment=”371777″][quote comment=”371776″][quote comment=”371743″]The San Francisco Giants have one of the best uniform sets in baseball. Why’d they have to go and ruin it by adding a solid orange alt?[/quote]

    this is the rare occassion when san francisco has looked to cleveland for inspiration… with disastrous results. link. link.[/quote]

    oops! sorry, kek! what i meant to say was “link.”[/quote]
    Interestingly enough, one of the two times the infamous all-orange Orioles unis were worn happened to be for a game link.

    Fellas, there’s a precedent for the orange on orange baseball look.

    link

    I’m going to go ahead and say it didn’t work out. I think this was ’71.

    [quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The 1985 Toronto Blue Jays had a no. 0 (Al Oliver) and a no. 00 (Cliff Johnson) at the same time.

    “Please pick your jaw up off the floor, Jim Vilk.”

    Wow! That makes two days in a row I’ve had to pick up my jaw. Yesterday my friends surprised me with this belated Christmas/early birthday gift: link

    Wayne, if you find any other Maulers jerseys (or if you want to part with yours) let’s talk. Normally I prefer kicker numbers, but for my present and for a USFL jersey I make exceptions.

    Looks like a great time at Yinzer Watch. Hope you have another one soon!

    [quote comment=”371787″]OK, I tried to be the better person and didn’t post my initial observations a couple hours ago. I expected someone else to run with it, but so far no one has so here it is…Anyone else think the girl in the Dodgers/Meats type shirt enjoys a few of the product featured on her chest?[/quote]

    I give up, what photo does this refer to?

    Good to see some Seattle neon on the membership card list: link
    If I didn’t already have a card, I might have gone for that Sounders jersey, or the neon Seahawks.

    [quote comment=”371777″][quote comment=”371776″][quote comment=”371743″]The San Francisco Giants have one of the best uniform sets in baseball. Why’d they have to go and ruin it by adding a solid orange alt?[/quote]

    this is the rare occassion when san francisco has looked to cleveland for inspiration… with disastrous results. link. link.[/quote]

    oops! sorry, kek! what i meant to say was “link.”[/quote]
    No problem Marc, I know that’s such a great photo of yours truly, you probably wanted to make your PC background

    [quote comment=”371771″][quote comment=”371767″]Paul,you’re a great writer, and you put together a great blog…love it. Just one request? Stop dropping f-bombs in your blog. You’re a better writer than that; they’re just not necessary to get your point across. Thanks.[/quote]

    My writing on this site is meant to be conversational, reflecting the way I actually talk. And when actually talking, I sometimes use words like “fuck” and “shit.” Simple as that. Those words are not better (or worse) than any other words — they’re just words, part of the communication toolkit. By singling them out for special attention, you’re imbuing them with much more power than I am.[/quote]

    Agree with the reader on this.

    [quote comment=”371801″][quote comment=”371777″][quote comment=”371776″][quote comment=”371743″]The San Francisco Giants have one of the best uniform sets in baseball. Why’d they have to go and ruin it by adding a solid orange alt?[/quote]

    this is the rare occassion when san francisco has looked to cleveland for inspiration… with disastrous results. link. link.[/quote]

    oops! sorry, kek! what i meant to say was “link.”[/quote]
    No problem Marc, I know that’s such a great photo of yours truly, you probably wanted to make your PC background[/quote]

    Disastrous results still holds, even if the pic is of Kek..

    I am trying to find out the pantone colors of the sleeve stripes on the edmonton oilers current white jersey.

    Does anybody have a good source for that info?

    Thanks in advance.

    [quote comment=”371804″]Logo Creep has come too far. KFC is placing its logo on fire hydrants.

    link

    link

    one would think KFC would avoid associating their food with something dogs piss on.

    [quote comment=”371807″][quote comment=”371804″]Logo Creep has come too far. KFC is placing its logo on fire hydrants.

    link

    link

    one would think KFC would avoid associating their food with something dogs piss on.[/quote]

    trying to avoid pointing out the obvious connection between KFC and dogs..

    Re: Expos “too much white” logo patch
    I live in Montreal, and I see that patch often on hoodies of various colors. My guess is that it’s just a way to side-step MLB licensing fees. Now that the Expos are gone, that logo is morphing into a symbol for Montreal as a city, but it’s sad to see the dearly departed Expos get undercut from their own city.
    –Praying Andre Dawson gets an Expos cap for Cooperstown.

    [quote comment=”371797″][quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The 1985 Toronto Blue Jays had a no. 0 (Al Oliver) and a no. 00 (Cliff Johnson) at the same time.[/quote]
    Playing in the mid-40’s for the Redskins, Steve Bagarus asked to wear number 00 so that “when I run on the field, the crowd can yell, Oh-Oh.”

    Later, circa 1960, the Skins had a player, John Olszewski (“Johnny O”) who wore number 0.

    [quote comment=”371787″]OK, I tried to be the better person and didn’t post my initial observations a couple hours ago. I expected someone else to run with it, but so far no one has so here it is…Anyone else think the girl in the Dodgers/Meats type shirt enjoys a few of the product featured on her chest?[/quote]

    If you’ll click on the home link of that page, you’ll see its a shopping site for Gabriel Iglesias, a larger-than-the-norm comedian featured on Comedy Central. I think the shirt would just look silly on a less-than-zoftig model (besides, she’s cute enough — doughy girls need love too!).

    [quote comment=”371785″]
    Wow. Good question. Anyone got a 1996 Bulls preseason roster lying around? Randy Brown wore #0 and Robert Parish was wearing #00.

    Brown switched to #1 when the regular season started.[/quote]

    According to my extensive research in MS Excel and OpenOffice, #0 would be listed first, followed by #00. The reason is due to number placement similar to decimals.

    [quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.

    leon said…

    “Later, circa 1960, the Skins had a player, John Olszewski (”Johnny O”) who wore number 0.”

    Also wore it with Lions and Broncos (one season each, I believe) after his ‘Skins career.

    –Ricko

    [quote comment=”371813″](besides, she’s cute enough — doughy girls need love too!).[/quote]

    Wasn’t that a Samantha Fox song?
    link
    Well, I was close…

    [quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?

    [quote comment=”371813″][quote comment=”371787″]OK, I tried to be the better person and didn’t post my initial observations a couple hours ago. I expected someone else to run with it, but so far no one has so here it is…Anyone else think the girl in the Dodgers/Meats type shirt enjoys a few of the product featured on her chest?[/quote]

    If you’ll click on the home link of that page, you’ll see its a shopping site for Gabriel Iglesias, a larger-than-the-norm comedian featured on Comedy Central. I think the shirt would just look silly on a less-than-zoftig model (besides, she’s cute enough — doughy girls need love too!).[/quote]

    Still confused

    [quote comment=”371821″][quote comment=”371813″][quote comment=”371787″]OK, I tried to be the better person and didn’t post my initial observations a couple hours ago. I expected someone else to run with it, but so far no one has so here it is…Anyone else think the girl in the Dodgers/Meats type shirt enjoys a few of the product featured on her chest?[/quote]

    If you’ll click on the home link of that page, you’ll see its a shopping site for Gabriel Iglesias, a larger-than-the-norm comedian featured on Comedy Central. I think the shirt would just look silly on a less-than-zoftig model (besides, she’s cute enough — doughy girls need love too!).[/quote]

    Still confused[/quote]

    Never mind, finally found it in the ticker. the store is called fluffyshop. Fluffy is the term Gabriel Iglesias uses to refer to his body type. obviously there wouldn’t be a svelt shirt model.

    [quote comment=”371820″][quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?[/quote]

    You didn’t miss anything (at least recently)…the original picture was posted on this site at least one year ago. I looked back and couldn’t find her name…hence, the Teebz post / comeback (which I fully deserved). I figured at least someone would know who I was talking about if I called her the “hot girl hockey player” – still don’t know her name though…

    [quote comment=”371823″][quote comment=”371820″][quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?[/quote]

    You didn’t miss anything (at least recently)…the original picture was posted on this site at least one year ago. I looked back and couldn’t find her name…hence, the Teebz post / comeback (which I fully deserved). I figured at least someone would know who I was talking about if I called her the “hot girl hockey player” – still don’t know her name though…[/quote]

    Adam, I meant it in jest, so I apologize if it came across as a “bastard” comment. ;o)

    Her name is link. She lead Mercyhurst College in scoring last season with 41 goals and 37 assists in 32 games. link that Adam was referring to. :o)

    [quote comment=”371824″][quote comment=”371823″][quote comment=”371820″][quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?[/quote]

    You didn’t miss anything (at least recently)…the original picture was posted on this site at least one year ago. I looked back and couldn’t find her name…hence, the Teebz post / comeback (which I fully deserved). I figured at least someone would know who I was talking about if I called her the “hot girl hockey player” – still don’t know her name though…[/quote]

    Adam, I meant it in jest, so I apologize if it came across as a “bastard” comment. ;o)

    Her name is link. She lead Mercyhurst College in scoring last season with 41 goals and 37 assists in 32 games. link that Adam was referring to. :o)[/quote]
    Teebz, I’m glad you got off the high horse, women’s lib tip and finally gave out this woman’s name so the google image searches can commence. HAHAHA!

    Oh, and my anti-spam word was “broad”….seriously Paul, what kind of blog are you running here?!?!?!

    Some familiar faces gone from this year’s Super Bowl commercials (Pepsi, for one)…
    link

    (Think of it as discussion points with which you can impress your fellow game-watchers who think all you care about is the color of the facemasks).

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”371825″][quote comment=”371824″][quote comment=”371823″][quote comment=”371820″][quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?[/quote]

    You didn’t miss anything (at least recently)…the original picture was posted on this site at least one year ago. I looked back and couldn’t find her name…hence, the Teebz post / comeback (which I fully deserved). I figured at least someone would know who I was talking about if I called her the “hot girl hockey player” – still don’t know her name though…[/quote]

    Adam, I meant it in jest, so I apologize if it came across as a “bastard” comment. ;o)

    Her name is link. She lead Mercyhurst College in scoring last season with 41 goals and 37 assists in 32 games. link that Adam was referring to. :o)[/quote]
    Teebz, I’m glad you got off the high horse, women’s lib tip and finally gave out this woman’s name so the google image searches can commence. HAHAHA!

    Oh, and my anti-spam word was “broad”….seriously Paul, what kind of blog are you running here?!?!?![/quote]
    Good question. I have the urge to get a MOVE on, hop in my VAN, head WAY out to IKEA and grab some TOAST.

    CONNECT with a BROAD or two? I’ll leave that up to my buddy DAN. A friendly WAVE will suffice for me.

    (Did I miss any?)

    [quote comment=”371824″][quote comment=”371823″][quote comment=”371820″][quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?[/quote]

    You didn’t miss anything (at least recently)…the original picture was posted on this site at least one year ago. I looked back and couldn’t find her name…hence, the Teebz post / comeback (which I fully deserved). I figured at least someone would know who I was talking about if I called her the “hot girl hockey player” – still don’t know her name though…[/quote]

    Adam, I meant it in jest, so I apologize if it came across as a “bastard” comment. ;o)

    Her name is link. She lead Mercyhurst College in scoring last season with 41 goals and 37 assists in 32 games. link that Adam was referring to. :o)[/quote]

    You could know her name before objectifying her, oh and btw I prefer her as a brunette.. Yup go ahead and preach Teebz :-p

    [quote comment=”371825″]
    Teebz, I’m glad you got off the high horse, women’s lib tip and finally gave out this woman’s name so the google image searches can commence. HAHAHA!

    Oh, and my anti-spam word was “broad”….seriously Paul, what kind of blog are you running here?!?!?![/quote]

    I’m more excited for the women’s hockey event at the Olympics than I am for the men’s hockey event. I love the women’s game because it focuses on skill and speed more than physical domination.

    Can someone please tell me where I can get these templates everyone is using for the jersey tweaks?

    [quote comment=”371828″]
    You could know her name before objectifying her, oh and btw I prefer her as a brunette.. Yup go ahead and preach Teebz :-p[/quote]

    I’ve known her name since the 2006 Olympics, thanks.

    I was just skimming through the Drew Brees piece on the NFL’s lawsuit and had a few thoughts.

    Anyone else find it funny that in one part of the article he is complaining about the contract with Reebok causing the cost of hats to increase by $10 and in another part he is boasting that he was able to get more money through FA? That money has to come from somewhere.

    I am not saying that FA is a bad thing. Lord knows the SOB owners don’t need any more control. The NFL prices have gotten to the point where going to an NFL game requires a considerable monetary amount. It is really sickening.

    I haven’t been to an NFL game in over a decade. The introduction of HDTV and DVR really makes a trip to the stadium not worth it. I prefer college games. If I am going to pay $40 for a ticket, at least it will go back into the school’s athletic program that provides scholarships for kids.

    [quote comment=”371827″]I have the urge to get a MOVE on, hop in my VAN, head WAY out to IKEA and grab some TOAST.

    CONNECT with a BROAD or two? I’ll leave that up to my buddy DAN. A friendly WAVE will suffice for me.

    (Did I miss any?)[/quote]
    Of course I did, because I forgot to mention that the van is a Volkswagen MICRObus and I’ll be listening to the RENT soundtrack while driving it.

    [quote comment=”371824″][quote comment=”371823″][quote comment=”371820″][quote comment=”371815″][quote comment=”371794″]Out of curiosity, is the hot hockey girl on the Canadian Olympic team?[/quote]

    Just for craps and giggles, the least you could do is know her name while objectifying her.

    And yes, she’s playing for Canada. She had blond hair at the training camp in Dawson Creek, BC earlier this summer if that’s any consolation. I preferred her as a brunette, personally.[/quote]
    Who are you guys talking about? Was she featured in one of the videos (Pond hockey/Brown University) that I haven’t been able to watch yet? Or did I miss something in the ticker/comments?[/quote]

    You didn’t miss anything (at least recently)…the original picture was posted on this site at least one year ago. I looked back and couldn’t find her name…hence, the Teebz post / comeback (which I fully deserved). I figured at least someone would know who I was talking about if I called her the “hot girl hockey player” – still don’t know her name though…[/quote]

    Adam, I meant it in jest, so I apologize if it came across as a “bastard” comment. ;o)

    Her name is link. She lead Mercyhurst College in scoring last season with 41 goals and 37 assists in 32 games. link that Adam was referring to. :o)[/quote]

    No worries…exactly how I took it. Still laughing…

    [quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    this might be a contributing factor for the franchise’s horrible Kharma up until the Payton regime.

    [quote comment=”371833″][quote comment=”371827″]I have the urge to get a MOVE on, hop in my VAN, head WAY out to IKEA and grab some TOAST.

    CONNECT with a BROAD or two? I’ll leave that up to my buddy DAN. A friendly WAVE will suffice for me.

    (Did I miss any?)[/quote]
    Of course I did, because I forgot to mention that the van is a Volkswagen MICRObus and I’ll be listening to the RENT soundtrack while driving it.[/quote]

    WTF are you talking about?

    /btw…you’re all lucky my office computer went down until about 20 minutes ago…it’s amazing how productive ive been

    /ok, no, not really

    [quote comment=”371836″]
    /btw…you’re all lucky my office computer went down until about 20 minutes ago…it’s amazing how productive ive been[/quote]

    Pics… or it didn’t happen. LOL

    [quote comment=”371836″]
    WTF are you talking about?
    [/quote]
    Reading the comments from the bottom-up again?

    [quote comment=”371838″][quote comment=”371836″]
    WTF are you talking about?
    [/quote]
    Reading the comments from the bottom-up again?[/quote]

    are those the anti-spam things? (i don’t have to type those in)…im guessing that’s what you’re referring to

    [quote comment=”371839″][quote comment=”371838″][quote comment=”371836″]
    WTF are you talking about?
    [/quote]
    Reading the comments from the bottom-up again?[/quote]

    are those the anti-spam things? (i don’t have to type those in)…im guessing that’s what you’re referring to[/quote]
    special brown-box privileges

    [quote comment=”371839″][quote comment=”371838″][quote comment=”371836″]
    WTF are you talking about?
    [/quote]
    Reading the comments from the bottom-up again?[/quote]

    are those the anti-spam things? (i don’t have to type those in)…im guessing that’s what you’re referring to[/quote]

    Rub it in why dontcha

    [quote comment=”371840″][quote comment=”371839″][quote comment=”371838″][quote comment=”371836″]
    WTF are you talking about?
    [/quote]
    Reading the comments from the bottom-up again?[/quote]

    are those the anti-spam things? (i don’t have to type those in)…im guessing that’s what you’re referring to[/quote]
    special brown-box privileges[/quote]

    Life on opposite sides of the velvet rope.
    (sigh)

    [quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    might have to start a “fans of” facebook group, seeing that link was pulled from the original pittsburgh meetup back in the spring!

    [quote comment=”371845″][quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    might have to start a “fans of” facebook group, seeing that link was pulled from the original pittsburgh meetup back in the spring![/quote]

    jenny is certainly a breath of fresh air!

    kek, notice the 2 chumps b.s.’ing way in the background? lol

    also, about 2-3 months ago i won the bradshaw version of jenny’s jersey (obviously a bigger size) off of ebay… have yet to wear it out though.

    [quote comment=”371850″][quote comment=”371845″][quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    might have to start a “fans of” facebook group, seeing that link was pulled from the original pittsburgh meetup back in the spring![/quote]

    jenny is certainly a breath of fresh air!

    kek, notice the 2 chumps b.s.’ing way in the background? lol

    also, about 2-3 months ago i won the bradshaw version of jenny’s jersey (obviously a bigger size) off of ebay… have yet to wear it out though.[/quote]
    HA!

    Now, did you really want that jersey or did you just bid on it rather than using the “watch this item” feature?!?!

    [quote comment=”371775″]not only is lou holtz wearing the checked pants, it looks like the whole coaching staff got poured into those sans-a-belts.

    side note: did anyone else have an epiphany when it occurred to you that “sansabelt” means “without a belt?” my ears heard it as a one word name which i had always considered just a brand name. when i realized the meaning, it hit me like a ton of bricks thereby making me feel amazingly stupid.[/quote]
    Another observation (albeit not about belts) —- in that picture w/ the sartorially challenged Lou Holtz and Richard Todd we also see Joe Willie’s hunchback looming in the background.

    [quote comment=”371852″][quote comment=”371850″][quote comment=”371845″][quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    might have to start a “fans of” facebook group, seeing that link was pulled from the original pittsburgh meetup back in the spring![/quote]

    jenny is certainly a breath of fresh air!

    kek, notice the 2 chumps b.s.’ing way in the background? lol

    also, about 2-3 months ago i won the bradshaw version of jenny’s jersey (obviously a bigger size) off of ebay… have yet to wear it out though.[/quote]
    HA!

    Now, did you really want that jersey or did you just bid on it rather than using the “watch this item” feature?!?![/quote]

    definitely wanted that jersey! jofa helmet… not as much…

    is 00 and 0 a legal number in the nfl or college football anymore? also the stretchy jerseys are soo lame how close are we to having to see these
    link

    [quote comment=”371853″][quote comment=”371775″]not only is lou holtz wearing the checked pants, it looks like the whole coaching staff got poured into those sans-a-belts.

    side note: did anyone else have an epiphany when it occurred to you that “sansabelt” means “without a belt?” my ears heard it as a one word name which i had always considered just a brand name. when i realized the meaning, it hit me like a ton of bricks thereby making me feel amazingly stupid.[/quote]
    Another observation (albeit not about belts) —- in that picture w/ the sartorially challenged Lou Holtz and Richard Todd we also see Joe Willie’s hunchback looming in the background.[/quote]
    link? Could Sansabelt become the official beltless trousers of Uni Watch?

    Those are too nice to be sans-a-belt products and since the belt area is hidden on all the coaches, I’m guessing they are, in fact, wearing white belts (to match the shoes). Or maybe green if it’s a home game.

    link

    [quote comment=”371853″][quote comment=”371775″]not only is lou holtz wearing the checked pants, it looks like the whole coaching staff got poured into those sans-a-belts.

    side note: did anyone else have an epiphany when it occurred to you that “sansabelt” means “without a belt?” my ears heard it as a one word name which i had always considered just a brand name. when i realized the meaning, it hit me like a ton of bricks thereby making me feel amazingly stupid.[/quote]
    Another observation (albeit not about belts) —- in that picture w/ the sartorially challenged Lou Holtz and Richard Todd we also see Joe Willie’s hunchback looming in the background.[/quote]

    ’76 was only season Todd and Namath were teammates.
    Was not a banner year for the Jets.
    Namath started 8 games, went 1-7.
    Rookie Todd started 6, went 2-4.

    Namath’s deal with Puma had expired, and he’d gone back to Riddells (shown in that photo) for grass fields, but wore adidas (for the first time) on turf. Did same with Rams the following year.

    After ’77 Namath would, of course, hobble off into retirement…or whatever it is he’s been doing since then.

    Always saw some kind of uni parallel in Unitas and Namath. Two superb quarterbacks from the QB country of PA, so identified with one-color-and-white, ended up staying one year too long at the fair playing on the flashy West Coast in flashy blue-and-gold wearing flashy lightning bolts and rams horns.

    Something looked wrong. And it was.

    –Ricko

    [quote comment=”371861″]Those are too nice to be sans-a-belt products and since the belt area is hidden on all the coaches, I’m guessing they are, in fact, wearing white belts (to match the shoes). Or maybe green if it’s a home game.

    link

    i know we might like some coaches to have the option to wear a suit on the gridiron

    i believe lou holtz’ decision not to was for the best

    Important Membership News: PayPal has suspended my account because they say offering bonus raffle entries as a membership benefit amounts to running a gambling operation, which is a violation of their user agreement. So I can no longer offer bonus raffle entries for members (which I hope will prompt them to reinstate my account). I’ll have more to say about this tomorrow. If anyone who signed up today feels this is a bait-and-switch and wants a membership refund, get in touch with me pronto and we’ll work it out.

    [quote comment=”371863″][quote comment=”371861″]Those are too nice to be sans-a-belt products and since the belt area is hidden on all the coaches, I’m guessing they are, in fact, wearing white belts (to match the shoes). Or maybe green if it’s a home game.

    link

    i know we might like some coaches to have the option to wear a suit on the gridiron

    i believe lou holtz’ decision not to link[/quote]
    Hey, a stripèd NFL ball. Those were only used for night games at the time, right?

    [quote comment=”371856″][quote comment=”371849″]It is Witten.[/quote]

    so shall it be done[/quote]

    *laughing out loud from my office

    [quote comment=”371850″][quote comment=”371845″][quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    might have to start a “fans of” facebook group, seeing that link was pulled from the original pittsburgh meetup back in the spring![/quote]

    jenny is certainly a breath of fresh air!

    kek, notice the 2 chumps b.s.’ing way in the background? lol

    [/quote]

    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear!

    [quote comment=”371867″][quote comment=”371850″][quote comment=”371845″][quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    might have to start a “fans of” facebook group, seeing that link was pulled from the original pittsburgh meetup back in the spring![/quote]

    jenny is certainly a breath of fresh air!

    kek, notice the 2 chumps b.s.’ing way in the background? lol

    [/quote]

    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear![/quote]

    She can borrow this for a pic: link

    [quote comment=”371868″]Cowboys fan in a Xenith helmet?

    link

    I really excited to see the ad for playing classic “Double Dribble” – until I saw the length of the shorts.

    [quote comment=”371867″]
    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear![/quote]

    No offense to those of you who are drooling over Miss Sweet or Miss Agosta, but this site is taking on a seriously creepy spin today.

    Hey Powers, if the referee isn’t repsonsible for calling a facemask during a fumble, how about one of the other officals?
    link

    [quote comment=”371871″][quote comment=”371867″]
    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear![/quote]

    No offense to those of you who are drooling over Miss Sweet or Miss Agosta, but this site is taking on a seriously creepy spin today.[/quote]

    At least no one’s requested to see her OUT of her Pittsburgh gear. I think the guys have been okay so far. Let’s keep it that way.

    Hmmm… Mark McGwire just announced that he took steroids in 1998. Coming up next on the news… water is wet and ice is cold. Stay tuned.

    Still wasn’t a HOFer to begin with.

    I am sure this has been stated already but I don’t have time to read through all the comments right now…. but it looks like Stevenson is also giving Antawn Jamison, in addition to Arenas, a shout out by wearing his kicks (AJ4).

    Steve Breaston’s “Power” codpiece looks like the logo for the “Power Bolt” brand of apparel.

    [quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    My nomination for Ms. Uniwatch. what a cutie.
    Now, i just have to dispose of mrs. bob loblaw… any suggestions???

    [quote comment=”371865″][quote comment=”371863″][quote comment=”371861″]Those are too nice to be sans-a-belt products and since the belt area is hidden on all the coaches, I’m guessing they are, in fact, wearing white belts (to match the shoes). Or maybe green if it’s a home game.

    link

    i know we might like some coaches to have the option to wear a suit on the gridiron

    i believe lou holtz’ decision not to link[/quote]
    Hey, a stripèd NFL ball. Those were only used for night games at the time, right?[/quote]
    Nevermind, I must have been thinking of the white ball they used for night games in the ’50s. I guess Lou was just holding up a ball that was hanging around link.

    [quote comment=”371862″][quote comment=”371853″][quote comment=”371775″]not only is lou holtz wearing the checked pants, it looks like the whole coaching staff got poured into those sans-a-belts.

    side note: did anyone else have an epiphany when it occurred to you that “sansabelt” means “without a belt?” my ears heard it as a one word name which i had always considered just a brand name. when i realized the meaning, it hit me like a ton of bricks thereby making me feel amazingly stupid.[/quote]
    Another observation (albeit not about belts) —- in that picture w/ the sartorially challenged Lou Holtz and Richard Todd we also see Joe Willie’s hunchback looming in the background.[/quote]

    ’76 was only season Todd and Namath were teammates.
    Was not a banner year for the Jets.
    Namath started 8 games, went 1-7.
    Rookie Todd started 6, went 2-4.

    Namath’s deal with Puma had expired, and he’d gone back to Riddells (shown in that photo) for grass fields, but wore adidas (for the first time) on turf. Did same with Rams the following year.

    After ’77 Namath would, of course, hobble off into retirement…or whatever it is he’s been doing since then.

    Always saw some kind of uni parallel in Unitas and Namath. Two superb quarterbacks from the QB country of PA, so identified with one-color-and-white, ended up staying one year too long at the fair playing on the flashy West Coast in flashy blue-and-gold wearing flashy lightning bolts and rams horns.

    Something looked wrong. And it was.

    –Ricko[/quote]
    All sorts of wrong in this picture:
    link

    JWN in Ram gear.
    knees 4x’s their age
    cowcatcher facemask in the wrong decade.
    guy who’s stayed at the dance too long.

    and on and on and on.

    [quote comment=”371871″][quote comment=”371867″]
    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear![/quote]

    No offense to those of you who are drooling over Miss Sweet or Miss Agosta, but this site is taking on a seriously creepy spin today.[/quote]

    “Hope you’ll excuse the boys, Ma’am. Ya see, there ain’t been a woman ’round here for a long, long time, and they jest have plumb forgot how to act ’round one.

    “All right, ya lovesick waddies, back to the bunkhouse!!!”

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”371878″][quote comment=”371865″][quote comment=”371863″][quote comment=”371861″]Those are too nice to be sans-a-belt products and since the belt area is hidden on all the coaches, I’m guessing they are, in fact, wearing white belts (to match the shoes). Or maybe green if it’s a home game.

    link

    i know we might like some coaches to have the option to wear a suit on the gridiron

    i believe lou holtz’ decision not to link[/quote]
    Hey, a stripèd NFL ball. Those were only used for night games at the time, right?[/quote]
    Nevermind, I must have been thinking of the white ball they used for night games in the ’50s. I guess Lou was just holding up a ball that was hanging around link.[/quote]
    Duh. They did use them for night games from 1956-1976, but apparently it was for all games in 1973.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Commencing self-imposed ban.

    [quote comment=”371882″]
    Her name is link. She lead Mercyhurst College in scoring link :o)[/quote]

    i’ll bet[/quote]

    She’s majoring in criminal law at Mercyhurst, Phil. Does that make her more appealing?

    [quote comment=”371877″][quote comment=”371844″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Haha… she’s flattered.[/quote]
    My nomination for Ms. Uniwatch. what a cutie.
    Now, i just have to dispose of mrs. bob loblaw… any suggestions???[/quote]
    Hire Butch Harmon as your swing coach.

    [quote comment=”371854″][quote comment=”371842″]What this site needs is MORE JENNY SWEET!
    link

    Is that a double “00” jersey?[/quote]

    88- Lynn Swann.

    [quote comment=”371873″][quote comment=”371871″][quote comment=”371867″]
    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear![/quote]

    No offense to those of you who are drooling over Miss Sweet or Miss Agosta, but this site is taking on a seriously creepy spin today.[/quote]

    At least no one’s requested to see her OUT of her Pittsburgh gear. I think the guys have been okay so far. Let’s keep it that way.[/quote]

    Thanks, Jim. ;)

    Jenny and I take it as a compliment, as long as it doesn’t get TOO creepy.

    [quote comment=”371769″][quote comment=”371744″]Even though I’m a huge Giants fan, I hadn’t yet seen the new alternate. Love the hat, but that thing is horrible. I can’t imagine how it looks good on the field. And for the love of God, please ditch that gold trim.[/quote]
    I’m also a Giants fan and I agree about the gold trim. I would also like to see them get rid of the cream colored unis – the novelty of them has worn off for me.[/quote]

    Are you Jeff Kent

    Re: the picture of the Gail Goodrich and the LA Laker World Champion patch…also nice side piping with team name on Golden State’s shorts.

    I wanted to respond to a question from yesterday’s comments about the picture of the Columbus Chill player wearing the link. That was actually a throwback to the Columbus Golden Seals, a minor league team from the 70’s. link the story about the team.

    And Phil, since you asked, I live in Connecticut, but I grew up in Columbus.

    [quote comment=”371816″]leon said…

    “Later, circa 1960, the Skins had a player, John Olszewski (”Johnny O”) who wore number 0.”

    Also wore it with Lions and Broncos (one season each, I believe) after his ‘Skins career.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Went digging in the Ricko Files.

    Johnny Olszewski wearing #0 (and high tops) for the Redskins…
    link
    (‘Skins were the last NFL to change to white laces, btw)
    Johnny O with the Lions, still #0, still in high tops…
    link
    (Never have found a photo of him with the Broncos).

    But, totally forgot the Lions have had TWO players wear #0. There also was this guy…
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”371874″]Hmmm… Mark McGwire just announced that he took steroids in 1998. Coming up next on the news… water is wet and ice is cold. Stay tuned.

    Still wasn’t a HOFer to begin with.[/quote]

    Absolutely he was a HOFer. He’d have been at the podium with Saint Cal and Overrated Tony in 2007 if not for a bunch of witchhutning sportswriters.

    Flipping through the site Oddly Specific, came across a sign that must be available in some format to all athletes with endorsement deals:

    link

    [quote comment=”371893″]Flipping through the site Oddly Specific, came across a sign that must be available in some format to all athletes with endorsement deals:

    link

    unless you have one of these

    /problem solved

    [quote comment=”371891″][quote comment=”371874″]Hmmm… Mark McGwire just announced that he took steroids in 1998. Coming up next on the news… water is wet and ice is cold. Stay tuned.

    Still wasn’t a HOFer to begin with.[/quote]

    Absolutely he was a HOFer. He’d have been at the podium with Saint Cal and Overrated Tony in 2007 if not for a bunch of witchhutning sportswriters.[/quote]

    Everybody’s a comedian on here. Now here’s another joke: McGwire’s .263 lifetime batting average!

    [quote comment=”371889″]I wanted to respond to a question from yesterday’s comments about the picture of the Columbus Chill player wearing the link. That was actually a throwback to the Columbus Golden Seals, a minor league team from the 70’s. link the story about the team.

    .[/quote]

    Thanks! I was the one who spotted the Seals guy and asked about it.

    I was wondering how or where I could find orioles lettering for a DIY project. please do help by sending me an email– link— thank you so much!

    If you click through the slideshow of those Lincoln Stars hockey pics, there’s a shot of the mascot wearing what is probably an alternate jersey – same colors but design resembles the Dallas Stars with the “full-body” star…

    [quote comment=”371890″]
    But, totally forgot the Lions have had TWO players wear #0. There also was this guy…
    link

    who’s that guy?

    I’m not a regular around here, and I hope I don’t step on any toes with this comment, but I couldn’t help but notice that Doug Keklak’s Lemieux jersey is incorrect. The Pens last wore that jersey during the 1984-85 preseason, and Lemieux did not become the captain until the 1987-88 season.

    [quote comment=”371900″][quote comment=”371890″]
    But, totally forgot the Lions have had TWO players wear #0. There also was this guy…
    link

    who’s that guy?[/quote]

    George Plimpton…or Alan Alda.

    [quote comment=”371902″][quote comment=”371900″][quote comment=”371890″]
    But, totally forgot the Lions have had TWO players wear #0. There also was this guy…
    link

    who’s that guy?[/quote]

    George Plimpton…or Alan Alda.[/quote]

    Hint: He once played “4th Gunman”.

    [quote comment=”371904″][quote comment=”371899″]One more Johnny O (’60 photo for ’61 card)…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Nice uni![/quote]

    what are those things hanging off his shoulders?

    [quote comment=”371901″]I’m not a regular around here, and I hope I don’t step on any toes with this comment, but I couldn’t help but notice that Doug Keklak’s Lemieux jersey is incorrect. The Pens last wore that jersey during the 1984-85 preseason, and Lemieux did not become the captain until the 1987-88 season.[/quote]

    No toes stepped on. There was a comment with the link that implied there was something “amiss” about the jersey, and apparently you’ve found it.

    [quote comment=”371904″][quote comment=”371899″]One more Johnny O (’60 photo for ’61 card)…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Nice uni![/quote]

    Nice name too!

    [quote comment=”371873″][quote comment=”371871″][quote comment=”371867″]
    Absolutely start a “fans of Jenny Sweet” page. And post more pics of her in Pittsburgh gear![/quote]

    No offense to those of you who are drooling over Miss Sweet or Miss Agosta, but this site is taking on a seriously creepy spin today.[/quote]

    At least no one’s requested to see her OUT of her Pittsburgh gear. I think the guys have been okay so far. Let’s keep it that way.[/quote]
    I wish that “Check out the bride’s rack!” guy would chime in.

    [quote comment=”371905″][quote comment=”371904″][quote comment=”371899″]One more Johnny O (’60 photo for ’61 card)…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Nice uni![/quote]

    what are those things hanging off his shoulders?[/quote]

    If you scroll down, you’ll see Johnny O wearing “34” on his card, but further down, in the team photo, he’s wearing “0”.

    [quote comment=”371909″][quote comment=”371905″][quote comment=”371904″][quote comment=”371899″]One more Johnny O (’60 photo for ’61 card)…
    link

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Nice uni![/quote]

    what are those things hanging off his shoulders?[/quote]

    If you scroll down, you’ll see Johnny O wearing “34” on his card, but further down, in the team photo, he’s wearing “0”.[/quote]

    34 most likely a training camp number.
    Training camp was when team publicity photos and, most times, card company photos were taken.

    Every once in a while you stumble across such photos showing a player from his rookie year, or his first year with a team, wearing a different number than he wore in the regular season.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Since we’re professing our love and admiration for 70’s wide recievers w/ funky numbers, I humbly share w/ the world my favorite 70’s WRs with funky numbers + the Great JR.

    link
    link

    [quote comment=”371912″][quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Since we’re professing our love and admiration for 70’s wide recievers w/ funky numbers, I humbly share w/ the world my favorite 70’s WRs with funky numbers + the Great JR.

    link
    link

    Let’s get real funky with 70s receivers WEARING 70s. I take you above the border for Eskimos WR Brian Kelly: link (okay, it was only one year in the 70s)
    Ottawa TE Tony Gabriel: link

    Watching the Cavs-Warriors game and LeBron is wearing white shoes. However, one is mostly orange, the other is mostly blue. anyone got a pic?

    [quote comment=”371916″]Watching the Cavs-Warriors game and LeBron is wearing white shoes. However, one is mostly orange, the other is mostly blue. anyone got a pic?[/quote]

    Here ya go, sort of:
    link

    [quote comment=”371917″][quote comment=”371916″]Watching the Cavs-Warriors game and LeBron is wearing white shoes. However, one is mostly orange, the other is mostly blue. anyone got a pic?[/quote]

    Here ya go, sort of:
    link

    Okay, that was the Blazers game. Haven’t seen one of tonight’s yet.

    [quote comment=”371918″][quote comment=”371917″][quote comment=”371916″]Watching the Cavs-Warriors game and LeBron is wearing white shoes. However, one is mostly orange, the other is mostly blue. anyone got a pic?[/quote]

    Here ya go, sort of:
    link
    That’s the one he’s wearing right now. Must be only for this road trip because the last time he wore these throwbacks (against Hornets) he didn’t have the mismatching shoes

    Okay, that was the Blazers game. Haven’t seen one of tonight’s yet.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”371913″]the great RJ

    link
    Clearly, 80 is not a funky WR, quite commonplace, but I had to throw our RJ ‘s picture out there. awesome player, along w/ this guy:
    link

    The shoes in Ware’s locker look like Reebok Quagmires.

    The design is really similar to the Thorpe (the studs are identical) which are designed for football.

    The Thorpe is what NFL officials wear.

    [quote comment=”371919″][quote comment=”371918″][quote comment=”371917″][quote comment=”371916″]Watching the Cavs-Warriors game and LeBron is wearing white shoes. However, one is mostly orange, the other is mostly blue. anyone got a pic?[/quote]

    Here ya go, sort of:
    link
    That’s the one he’s wearing right now. Must be only for this road trip because the last time he wore these throwbacks (against Hornets) he didn’t have the mismatching shoes

    Okay, that was the Blazers game. Haven’t seen one of tonight’s yet.[/quote][/quote]
    let me try again
    that pic from last night is the same combo he’s wearing tonight. must be a road trip thing because the last time he wore these throwbacks (against hornets) he didn’t mismatch his shoes

    [quote comment=”371920″][quote comment=”371913″]the great RJ

    link
    Clearly, 80 is not a funky WR, quite commonplace, but I had to throw our RJ ‘s picture out there. awesome player, along w/ this guy:
    link

    My brother and I both liked Otis Taylor. He also liked Paul Warfield link while I liked Charlie Joiner: link

    [quote comment=”371923″][quote comment=”371920″][quote comment=”371913″]the great RJ

    link
    Clearly, 80 is not a funky WR, quite commonplace, but I had to throw our RJ ‘s picture out there. awesome player, along w/ this guy:
    link

    My brother and I both liked Otis Taylor. He also liked Paul Warfield link while I liked Charlie Joiner: link

    That’s Charlie Joiner: link

    [quote comment=”371912″][quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Since we’re professing our love and admiration for 70’s wide recievers w/ funky numbers, I humbly share w/ the world my favorite 70’s WRs with funky numbers + the Great JR.

    link
    link

    Just perusing through my 1972 NFL stamp album, link and it’s amazing how many WRs there were with funky numbers:
    Colts – 33 Ed Hinton, 27 Ray Perkins
    Bills – 40 JD Hill
    Bears – 45 Dick Gordon, 43 George Farmer
    Bengals – 25 Chip Myers
    Browns – 43 Fair Hooker, 25 Frank Pitts
    Cowboys – 22 Bob Hayes, 19 Lance Alworth
    Broncos – 40 Jack Gehrke
    Lions – 25 Earl McCulloch, 49 Larry Walton
    Oilers – 00 Ken Burrough, 18 Charlie Joiner
    Chiefs – 17 Elmo Wright
    Rams – 13 Lance Rentzel
    Dolphins – 42 Paul Warfield
    Patriots – 18 Randy Vataha, 33 Reggie Rucker
    Saints – 25 Al Dodd, 46 Dan Abramowicz
    Giants – 40 Joe Morrison, 38 Bob Tucker (TE)
    Jets – 13 Don Maynard
    Raiders – 25 Fred Biletnikoff (21 Cliff Branch would come later)
    Eagles – 29 Harold Jackson, 17 Harold Carmichael, 18 Ben Hawkins
    Steelers – 25 Ron Shanklin
    Cardinals – 44 John Gilliam
    Chargers – 27 Gary Garrison
    49ers – 18 Gene Washington
    Redskins – 42 Charley Taylor

    [quote comment=”371891″][quote comment=”371874″]Hmmm… Mark McGwire just announced that he took steroids in 1998. Coming up next on the news… water is wet and ice is cold. Stay tuned.

    Still wasn’t a HOFer to begin with.[/quote]

    Absolutely he was a HOFer. He’d have been at the podium with Saint Cal and Overrated Tony in 2007 if not for a bunch of witchhutning sportswriters.[/quote]

    So the problem with drug dealers is the witch hunting police?

    I couldn’t wait for the highlights and the news during the 98 season between Sosa and McGwire. It was the most exciting baseball season of my life. It was also a lie. Every homerun was a lie. McGwire was on the juice, so was Sosa, everybody knows Bonds was too. Since he was on the sauce, McGwire isn’t even on the druggie HOF list at first base. That goes to Palmeiro, who had a much better drug induced BA.

    McGwire was a fraud. Frauds shouldn’t be in the HOF. He admitted it, so he should only have his statistics stricken from the record books. Anyone found using steriods who DOESN’T admit it should be banned from the game. FOREVER.

    [quote comment=”371924″][quote comment=”371923″][quote comment=”371920″][quote comment=”371913″]the great RJ

    link
    Clearly, 80 is not a funky WR, quite commonplace, but I had to throw our RJ ‘s picture out there. awesome player, along w/ this guy:
    link

    My brother and I both liked Otis Taylor. He also liked Paul Warfield link while I liked Charlie Joiner: link

    That’s Charlie Joiner: link

    Good choices, I\’m raising you:

    link

    link

    link
    Loved his single facebar!

    [quote comment=”371925″][quote comment=”371912″][quote comment=”371772″][quote comment=”371768″]With Kenny Burroughs wearing 00 and original Saint Obert Logan wearing 0, the New Orleans franchise has the rare roulette wheel double in its history.[/quote]

    Yeah, remember thinking back then how much fun it would have been had they played at the same time. And which would have been listed first on the numerical roster?

    Logan was with the Saints in ’67. Burrough played only in ’70, before being traded to the Oilers.

    But, as you noted, that roulette double definitely is in their history.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Since we’re professing our love and admiration for 70’s wide recievers w/ funky numbers, I humbly share w/ the world my favorite 70’s WRs with funky numbers + the Great JR.

    link
    link

    Just perusing through my 1972 NFL stamp album, link and it’s amazing how many WRs there were with funky numbers:
    Colts – 33 Ed Hinton, 27 Ray Perkins
    Bills – 40 JD Hill
    Bears – 45 Dick Gordon, 43 George Farmer
    Bengals – 25 Chip Myers
    Browns – 43 Fair Hooker, 25 Frank Pitts
    Cowboys – 22 Bob Hayes, 19 Lance Alworth
    Broncos – 40 Jack Gehrke
    Lions – 25 Earl McCulloch, 49 Larry Walton
    Oilers – 00 Ken Burrough, 18 Charlie Joiner
    Chiefs – 17 Elmo Wright
    Rams – 13 Lance Rentzel
    Dolphins – 42 Paul Warfield
    Patriots – 18 Randy Vataha, 33 Reggie Rucker
    Saints – 25 Al Dodd, 46 Dan Abramowicz
    Giants – 40 Joe Morrison, 38 Bob Tucker (TE)
    Jets – 13 Don Maynard
    Raiders – 25 Fred Biletnikoff (21 Cliff Branch would come later)
    Eagles – 29 Harold Jackson, 17 Harold Carmichael, 18 Ben Hawkins
    Steelers – 25 Ron Shanklin
    Cardinals – 44 John Gilliam
    Chargers – 27 Gary Garrison
    49ers – 18 Gene Washington
    Redskins – 42 Charley Taylor[/quote]

    You completely trumped me!
    Don’t you have the Vikings in that Stamp book?
    John Gilliam # 42. I was pulling my hair out trying figuring out the guy that ‘ran’ w/ Otis…. Elmo Wright!!!! how could I forget!!!! o eai,

    [quote comment=”371928″][quote comment=”371925″]Just perusing through my 1972 NFL stamp album, link and it’s amazing how many WRs there were with funky numbers:
    Colts – 33 Ed Hinton, 27 Ray Perkins
    Bills – 40 JD Hill
    Bears – 45 Dick Gordon, 43 George Farmer
    Bengals – 25 Chip Myers
    Browns – 43 Fair Hooker, 25 Frank Pitts
    Cowboys – 22 Bob Hayes, 19 Lance Alworth
    Broncos – 40 Jack Gehrke
    Lions – 25 Earl McCulloch, 49 Larry Walton
    Oilers – 00 Ken Burrough, 18 Charlie Joiner
    Chiefs – 17 Elmo Wright
    Rams – 13 Lance Rentzel
    Dolphins – 42 Paul Warfield
    Patriots – 18 Randy Vataha, 33 Reggie Rucker
    Saints – 25 Al Dodd, 46 Dan Abramowicz
    Giants – 40 Joe Morrison, 38 Bob Tucker (TE)
    Jets – 13 Don Maynard
    Raiders – 25 Fred Biletnikoff (21 Cliff Branch would come later)
    Eagles – 29 Harold Jackson, 17 Harold Carmichael, 18 Ben Hawkins
    Steelers – 25 Ron Shanklin
    Cardinals – 44 John Gilliam
    Chargers – 27 Gary Garrison
    49ers – 18 Gene Washington
    Redskins – 42 Charley Taylor[/quote]

    You completely trumped me!
    Don’t you have the Vikings in that Stamp book?
    John Gilliam # 42. I was pulling my hair out trying figuring out the guy that ‘ran’ w/ Otis…. Elmo Wright!!!! how could I forget!!!! o eai,[/quote]

    Gilliam was traded that year. The album has him as a Cardinal, but my dad pasted him into the Vikings page.

    [quote comment=”371926″]I couldn’t wait for the highlights and the news during the 98 season between Sosa and McGwire. It was the most exciting baseball season of my life. It was also a lie. Every homerun was a lie. McGwire was on the juice, so was Sosa, everybody knows Bonds was too. Since he was on the sauce, McGwire isn’t even on the druggie HOF list at first base. That goes to Palmeiro, who had a much better drug induced BA.[/quote]

    wasn’t the 98 HRD between mcgwire and sosa pretty much the reason bonds became a juicer a year or two later?

    if you believe “book of shadows” bonds roided himself out because of the attention focused on sosa/mac…

    until he admits it, i think the gubmint has prolly spent enough money trying to prove it and failed

    but the pics don’t lie

    bonds, sosa, mcgwire, clemens, pettitte, giambi, palmiero, a-rod…

    question is…was bonds already a HOFer by 1999?

    that’s a question that may be answered in 3 years

    sorry JimV… apparently reading is a lost art.

    Nice list, kind of highlites one of my confusions as a 8 old — the two Lances (rentzel and alworth), the other was: the two genes washington (49ers and vikes)

    [quote comment=”371932″]sorry JimV… apparently reading is a lost art.

    Nice list, kind of highlites one of my confusions as a 8 old — the two Lances (rentzel and alworth), the other was: the two genes washington (49ers and vikes)[/quote]

    Oops, I missed #7 for the Jets, WR Ed Bell. Dad pasted him down in the RB section of the Jets page.

    Yeah, the Gene Washingtons used to confuse me as well.

    My brother just got me white cleats for my birthday today. So stoked, they’ll go perfectly with all my Robert Marshall stirrups next softball season!

    link

    Thanks bro!

    -martyB

    Looking at that NFL stamp album also got me wistful for straight-on kickers, so I started Googling them, and found out the Steelers brought one into training camp back in ’02.
    link
    Dig his shoe:
    link
    By the way, I think Burke Dales punts up in Canada now, and I think he is the brother of ABC/ESPN sideline reporter Stacey Dales: link

    [quote comment=”371934″][quote comment=”371932″]sorry JimV… apparently reading is a lost art.

    Nice list, kind of highlites one of my confusions as a 8 old — the two Lances (rentzel and alworth), the other was: the two genes washington (49ers and vikes)[/quote]

    Oops, I missed #7 for the Jets, WR Ed Bell. Dad pasted him down in the RB section of the Jets page.

    Yeah, the Gene Washingtons used to confuse me as well.[/quote]

    Might be missing Giants/Vikes #38 Bob tucker, TE?

    [quote comment=”371937″][quote comment=”371934″][quote comment=”371932″]sorry JimV… apparently reading is a lost art.

    Nice list, kind of highlites one of my confusions as a 8 old — the two Lances (rentzel and alworth), the other was: the two genes washington (49ers and vikes)[/quote]

    Oops, I missed #7 for the Jets, WR Ed Bell. Dad pasted him down in the RB section of the Jets page.

    Yeah, the Gene Washingtons used to confuse me as well.[/quote]

    Might be missing Giants/Vikes #38 Bob tucker, TE?[/quote]

    As you said, reading is a lost art. ;)
    I snuck him in after Joe Morrison.

    [quote comment=”371938″][quote comment=”371937″][quote comment=”371934″][quote comment=”371932″]sorry JimV… apparently reading is a lost art.

    Nice list, kind of highlites one of my confusions as a 8 old — the two Lances (rentzel and alworth), the other was: the two genes washington (49ers and vikes)[/quote]

    Oops, I missed #7 for the Jets, WR Ed Bell. Dad pasted him down in the RB section of the Jets page.

    Yeah, the Gene Washingtons used to confuse me as well.[/quote]

    Might be missing Giants/Vikes #38 Bob tucker, TE?[/quote]

    As you said, reading is a lost art. ;)
    I snuck him in after Joe Morrison.[/quote]
    I’m just delirious watching that youtube salute to Joe Kapp. I attached it up above, watch at the 301 mark you be rewarded with an extreme close up of Freddie Cox’ square toe boot! you won’t go wrong!

    [quote comment=”371936″]Looking at that NFL stamp album also got me wistful for straight-on kickers, so I started Googling them, and found out the Steelers brought one into training camp back in ’02.
    link
    Dig his shoe:
    link
    By the way, I think Burke Dales punts up in Canada now, and I think he is the brother of ABC/ESPN sideline reporter Stacey Dales: link
    Stacy… mmmmm.

    using that shoelace to fix the ankle ‘angle’ is akin to a pro golfer using some of those cheesy infomercial ‘aides’ you see on the telly .

    [quote comment=”371939″][quote comment=”371938″][quote comment=”371937″][quote comment=”371934″][quote comment=”371932″]sorry JimV… apparently reading is a lost art.

    Nice list, kind of highlites one of my confusions as a 8 old — the two Lances (rentzel and alworth), the other was: the two genes washington (49ers and vikes)[/quote]

    Oops, I missed #7 for the Jets, WR Ed Bell. Dad pasted him down in the RB section of the Jets page.

    Yeah, the Gene Washingtons used to confuse me as well.[/quote]

    Might be missing Giants/Vikes #38 Bob tucker, TE?[/quote]

    As you said, reading is a lost art. ;)
    I snuck him in after Joe Morrison.[/quote]
    I’m just delirious watching that youtube salute to Joe Kapp. I attached it up above, watch at the 301 mark you be rewarded with an extreme close up of Freddie Cox’ square toe boot! you won’t go wrong![/quote]

    Just saw that. Great shot of Fred.

    That was the first team I liked. Cox, Joe Kapp, Paul Krause, Fran Tarkenton, Alan Page, etc. Loved Bud Grant, too. I think when they moved to the dome was when I stopped liking them as much.

    [quote comment=”371936″]By the way, I think Burke Dales punts up in Canada now, and I think he is the brother of ABC/ESPN sideline reporter Stacey Dales: link
    OK, I had to ban myself earlier due to incompetence, but I’m fairly certain it’s Erin Andrews in that pic and not link (that’s her on the right, er, I mean left).

    And yes, the two are siblings. link is their cousin.

    [quote comment=”371930″]
    question is…was bonds already a HOFer by 1999?

    that’s a question that may be answered in 3 years[/quote]

    Maybe he was, but you just can’t ignore what he did in ’99 & beyond. How would that exactly work? You induct Bonds with his stats through only 1998? The answer is, no you don’t, and you don’t induct him. I don’t see the need to. He’s got his money, he’s got his arrogance, he’s got his lying statistics. Bonds being an afterthought to the HOF is the biggest justice of it all.

    No offense, but…

    I realize putting things in context in difficult for many here, but saying a number in the 80s is “funky” for a wide receiver is tantamount to saying, “I’ve only been watching pro football for about six years, but my perspective is the only one.”

    (Not to mention having overlooked, oh, I dunno, Randy Moss, Chad Ocho Cinco and Terrell Owens…three guys not exactly easy to miss).

    Let’s recap, shall we. We’ve had 50 years of an NFL numbering system with “Ends” (including defensive ends for long while, btw, but later changed to only all WR’s and TE’s) in the 80s.
    And now we’ve had six years or so of “teens” allowed for wideouts, which quickly became commonplace rather than the norm, largely because the “look at me” needle slammed against the right side of the Ego-Meter so hard you could HEAR it.

    Anyway, I ask you, in the total context of pro football, which is really the funkier? 50 years, or 6 years? Hmmm….

    NOTE: Originally, the pro-style offense was built around one of the halfbacks “flanking” to one side on some plays, on the strong side with tight end, a step back from the line of scrimmage, so as to remain in the backfield. Still that way today, btw, that rule hasn’t changed. Don’t cover up the tight end. Anyway, because the “double wide” wasn’t the setup on every play (as it pretty much now has been since the late ’50s-early ’60s), often the “flanker” WAS the best pass-catching halfback, who’d simply trot out and set up wide…Rams’ Elroy Hirsch (#47), Colts’ Lenny Moore (#24), Giants’ Kyle Rote (#44), to name three. So, for a long, long while, a wide receiver still could still be considered a “halfback,” and allowed to wear numbers eligible for backfield members.

    For those who already knew that, I apologize for going over it again. For those didn’t, I hope you just digest it and add it to your knowledge bank. That’s one of Uni Watch’s reason to exist, after all.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”371946″]No offense, but…

    I realize putting things in context in difficult for many here, but saying a number in the 80s is “funky” for a wide receiver is tantamount to saying, “I’ve only been watching pro football for about six years, but my perspective is the only one.”

    (Not to mention having overlooked, oh, I dunno, Randy Moss, Chad Ocho Cinco and Terrell Owens…three guys not exactly easy to miss).

    Let’s recap, shall we. We’ve had 50 years of an NFL numbering system with “Ends” (including defensive ends for long while, btw, but later changed to only all WR’s and TE’s) in the 80s.
    And now we’ve had six years or so of “teens” allowed for wideouts, which quickly became commonplace rather than the norm, largely because the “look at me” needle slammed against the right side of the Ego-Meter so hard you could HEAR it.

    Anyway, I ask you, in the total context of pro football, which is really the funkier? 50 years, or 6 years? Hmmm….

    NOTE: Originally, the pro-style offense was built around one of the halfbacks “flanking” to one side on some plays, on the strong side with tight end, a step back from the line of scrimmage, so as to remain in the backfield. Still that way today, btw, that rule hasn’t changed. Don’t cover up the tight end. Anyway, because the “double wide” wasn’t the setup on every play (as it pretty much now has been since the late ’50s-early ’60s), often the “flanker” WAS the best pass-catching halfback, who’d simply trot out and set up wide…Rams’ Elroy Hirsch (#47), Colts’ Lenny Moore (#24), Giants’ Kyle Rote (#44), to name three. So, for a long, long while, a wide receiver still could still be considered a “halfback,” and allowed to wear numbers eligible for backfield members.

    For those who already knew that, I apologize for going over it again. For those didn’t, I hope you just digest it and add it to your knowledge bank. That’s one of Uni Watch’s reason to exist, after all.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Easy big fella… i expressed myself somewhat unclearly: I meant to say something to the extent of ‘here’s two of my favorite 1970’s recievers w/ funky numbers and i’m adding a third favorite (while sans funky number) still merits a place in my heart. sorry mr. ricko.

    I’m a 43 year old man who has been watching football since 1972 roughly….. while I cannot claim any type of expertise in this matter —- 37 years of observation is still greater than ‘6 years’.

    the thing is that in today’s homogenized NFL those WR wearing numbers in the 40’s or 50s looks quite ‘off’.

    While not a fan of today’s ‘look at me players’, i’m a huge fan of the pre-70’s corporate NFL, for that certain level of ‘casualness’ that characterized the sport and the rough men that played it.

    [quote comment=”371862″]

    After ’77 Namath would, of course, hobble off into retirement…or whatever it is he’s been doing since then.

    [/quote]

    He has been busy link.

    [quote comment=”371948″]the thing is that in today’s homogenized NFL those WR wearing numbers in the 40’s or 50s looks quite ‘off’.

    While not a fan of today’s ‘look at me players’, i’m a huge fan of the pre-70’s corporate NFL, for that certain level of ‘casualness’ that characterized the sport and the rough men that played it.[/quote]

    My bad. Not aimed at you, Robert (well aware of your background), was talking about a post in reference to a funky 80….or was their one? I whipped through last night’s post early this a.m., and obviously got something wrong. Thought someone had made reference to 80 looking odd on a wideout.

    Okay, in my best Emily Lotella imitation…
    “Never mind.”

    Well, maybe some one will learn something about the history of things, that one wideout (the “flanker”) originally was a running back, not a full-time split receiver.

    And I wish they’d loosen up the number regs and go back to lettng some WRs wear backfield numbers. One of them–sometimes more than of one of them–is in the backfield on almost every play.

    Just not a fan of so many in the teens. Those still seem more like QB numbers. I’d rather have seen them let WR go to single digits, instead (if guys saw 20s-40s as RB or DB numbers). But then the battles over who got #1 would have been…well, embarassing, actually.

    —Ricko

    For example, I really hope whoever drafts Mississippi’s Dexter McCluster lists him as a RB so he can keep his #22.

    And if they move him around enough (Wildcat, etc), they’ll get away with it.

    Kinda wish Vikings had done something like that with Percy Harvin (list him as KR or RB) so that he was wearing a single digit or RB number.

    —Ricko

    No, ricko… sorry if i sounded a bit peeved — love and respect your knowledge/yarns here on UW.

    I am guilty however, I posted something w/ pictures of charley taylor, john gilliam and roy jefferon. Two favorites from the first part of the decade w/ the ‘odd'(for today)numbering, but I couldn’t resist Roy Jefferson another personal favorite. BTW: is there a better flanker/WR number that 80?? maybe 88? or is that a better TE number?

    Confession tiem: I yearn for the days when a mobile, QB eating DT wore 88…. ah, Alan Page where art thou???

    [quote comment=”371949″][quote comment=”371862″]

    After ’77 Namath would, of course, hobble off into retirement…or whatever it is he’s been doing since then.

    [/quote]

    He has been busy link.[/quote]
    been a rough stretch for Broadway Joe. check out that mugshot,that daughter is gonna cause him many a sleepless night, i’m afraid.

    [quote comment=”371952″]No, ricko… sorry if i sounded a bit peeved — love and respect your knowledge/yarns here on UW.

    I am guilty however, I posted something w/ pictures of charley taylor, john gilliam and roy jefferon. Two favorites from the first part of the decade w/ the ‘odd'(for today)numbering, but I couldn’t resist Roy Jefferson another personal favorite. BTW: is there a better flanker/WR number that 80?? maybe 88? or is that a better TE number?

    Confession tiem: I yearn for the days when a mobile, QB eating DT wore 88…. ah, Alan Page where art thou???[/quote]

    On a subject about which NO ONE really cares…lol

    Roy Jefferson was one of the first to go with the “white knee high” look. Late in his time with the Steelers (and most certainly during his Colts years), he white-taped the top of his socks so far down, and wore longer white crews so high, that the black (royal with Colts) stirrup sock virtually disappeared. LB Ray May of the Colts (#56) also did at about the same time, 1970 or so.

    Cowboys’ Drew Pearson was another, about a year later, as were Steeler WR Dave Smith and a couple of Redskins, RB Larry Brown and TE Jerry Smith.

    —Ricko

    Now that “technology” is advancing, next Mother’s Day, let’s see JUST how dedicated those athletes are that tend to go “all out” while picking pink accessories …

    link

    [quote comment=”371955″]Now that “technology” is advancing, next Mother’s Day, let’s see JUST how dedicated those athletes are that tend to go “all out” while picking pink accessories …

    link

    Hope they’re lifers.

    That look certainly could hinder a post-prison job search, wouldn’t ya think?

    I mean, even if all he does is say, “Here’s your car” as he pitches the windshield wiping rags into a bucket…I’m still gonna be looking for the snake in the glove box.

    —Ricko

    Off topic, but I figured if anyone could help me, it’d be you guys.

    I have been looking for a patch of this logo link

    Anyone know where I can find one?

    [quote comment=”371959″]Off topic, but I figured if anyone could help me, it’d be you guys.

    I have been looking for a patch of this logo link

    Anyone know where I can find one?[/quote]

    If you haven’t checked ebay, here are the closest I could find at the moment (second one is probably WAY too big)…
    link
    link

    —Ricko

    I think Steve Breaston forgot to wear a belt, his pants came untied, and what you see in the picture is the logo on his POWER compression shorts.

    [quote comment=”371959″]Off topic, but I figured if anyone could help me, it’d be you guys.

    I have been looking for a patch of this logo link

    Anyone know where I can find one?[/quote]

    If you go here: link there are four or five patches of that logo to look at.

    [quote comment=\”371965\”][quote comment=\”371959\”]Off topic, but I figured if anyone could help me, it\’d be you guys.

    I have been looking for a patch of this logo link

    Anyone know where I can find one?[/quote]

    If you go here: link there are four or five patches of that logo to look at.[/quote]

    Those are great! Thanks Kevin!

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