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Who Was Lamer: Phyllis George or Jayne Kennedy? Discuss.

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Paul here. Today is Phil’s birthday, so I’ve given him 50¢ and sent him to the movies. There’s no way I can match his usual Sunday smorgasbord, but I think I’ve come up with something that’s appropriate for the last Sunday of the NFL regular season.

A few weeks ago, Jim Vilk posted a series of late-night comments that linked to some excellent NFL-related videos — videos that are too good to be relegated to a series of late-night comments. So I’m going to cover them today and give them the attention they deserve.

First up: a CBS halftime show from 1979, anchored by Brent Musberger. The thing that really jumps out at you here is the junior high-level production values — incredibly (and endearingly) rinky-dink, although I’ve always loved this illustration. Also of note: great sock stripes being worn by the Giants (also note the official’s NOB), a good view of the Eagles’ old UCLA inserts, and a rare sighting of the Cards’ old full-house backfield. And check out John Stallworth at the line of scrimmage with his hands on his hips — remember when that used to be a fairly common way for wideouts to set up for the snap? Always struck me as “I’m so cool, just hangin’ out, I’m loose, I’m cool.” Anyway, here’s the full vid:

Next up: NBC’s early-’70s theme music and game intro, complete with players suiting up in their uniforms before the game. No need for screen shots on this one — just watch and enjoy:

Not a dry pair of pants in the house after watching that, am I right? But here’s a bonus factoid you may have forgotten: NBC briefly used that same musical score for its Sunday-afternoon NHL broadcasts. The final note — punctuated in the NFL version by the player slapping himself in the helmet — was accented by a goalie pounding his catching glove either with his fist or his stick, can’t remember.

Next: The world-beating intro to CBS’s NFL Today opening credits, circa 1978. Fun fact: Back in the day, a young Paul Lukas was thoroughly entranced — I mean thoroughly entranced — by the bit where a hand is shown flipping this lever. A supple flick of the wrist + just a hint of resistance from the lever = Perfection. Watch for it at the 44-second mark:

After Jim posted that one in the comments two weeks ago, Ricko followed up with the following info: “That music wasn’t original, wasn’t commissioned by CBS. It’s from a commercial music library (can’t remember the name of the track, though). It later showed up on a chainsaw commercial, and we used it a couple times on radio spots to parody the NFL…and for only the cost of standard ‘needledrop.'”

I’m too young to remember the great animation featured in our next video, which is from a 1970 playoff game, but I love (also note the great CBS Sports logo in the opening seconds):

That should be enough to keep everyone happy for the rest of the day, if not well into the new year. Faith Hill and Hank Jr. can blow me — I’ll take this stuff every day of the week.

Uni Watch News Ticker, Rare Sunday Edition: I knew Bert Campaneris had worn “Campy” on his jersey during that period when so many of the A’s were wearing nickNOBs, but I hadn’t seen visual evidence of it until now (major find by Steve K.). … Air Force went with a camo-patterned lightning bolt for the Armed Forces Bowl on Friday. … Portland Winterhawks goalie Ian Curtis has a new mask design with lots of Portland references (with thanks to Travis McGuire). … If you scroll about two-thirds of the way down this page, you’ll see all the different “ND” logos on display at Purcell Pavilion in South Bend (nice find by Matt Blinco). … Standford running backs coach Willie Taggard is slated to become Western Kentucky’s head coach, but couldn’t he have waited until after the Sun Bowl before wearing WKU gear? (Screen shot courtesy of Eric Visokey.) … Cort McMurray‘s wife didn’t like any of the Houston Cougars stadium blankets she saw in stores (“cheap acrylic junk,” he says), so she made a DIY blanket for him and also got him tickets for the Armed Forces Bowl, where he enjoyed the color-on-color action. … Bit of a cock-up when the announced the Team USA hockey roster during the Winter Classic, as the kid wearing Jamie Langenbrunner’s jersey was sporting a typo (as sotted by Mike Eakins). … Jeremy Brahm kicked off the new year by sending along new of the new FIBA Men’s Championship mascot, along with a video FIBA championship history with lots of cool old uniforms — recommended view (although the soundtrack is unlistenable, so hit your mute button). … Ten minutes well spent: This video of Pittsburgh hockey history, with lots of cool old uniforms (big thanks to Austin Chen). … Interesting news about skate guards and Kevlar socks here (with thanks to Paul Richard Cook). … Best part of the Winter Classic: hockey players with eye-black! … Matt Powers is gonna find this one very troubling: a Princeton football player without footwear. Barefootedness notwithstanding, it’s kinda odd to put a punter on a program cover, no? (Great find by Tris Wykes.) … What happens when your jersey is the same color as the field? The superimposed TV graphics can be superimposed on you (nice screen-grab work by Brian Polk). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Fucking awesome DIY Chargers gridiron on display here. … While looking for something else, I came across this great shot of Spahny and Yogi in civvies. … Already worrying about what to wear next Christmas? You could do a lot worse than this. … Matt Newbery was watching one of those high school all-star games and noticed a few players with uni number issues. Note the different NOB fonts, too. … No photo, but Trey Jones says that when Warren Moon made his NFL debut with the Oilers, he wore “Canada” on his nose bumper, as a shout-out to his CFL days. Can anyone confirm or disprove? … Matthew Robins attended a wedding in Wisconsin on New Year’s Eve. The groom’s cake looked like this. … Oregon wasn’t part of Nike’s riflery program, but they got their own rifle-style glove design for the Rose Bowl (big thanks to Christopher Smith).

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For the Birthday Boy: Please join me in wishing Phil the happiest of birthdays today. Enjoy your special day, buddy — hope you get everything you wish for when you blow out the candles. Now turn off the computer and go treat yourself to something special. You deserve it.

 

196 comments to Who Was Lamer: Phyllis George or Jayne Kennedy? Discuss.

  • Ray Barrington | January 3, 2010 at 8:43 am |

    On the 1970 intro:
    1. Watch the small box in the lower right and you’ll see the animation is taken from the film footaqge being shown.
    2. The theme was called “Confidence” and was from a short-lived musical about Walter Mitty. CBS used several versions, including a faster march (my favorite) and, later, an electronic version.

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 8:48 am |

    To: Phil
    From: James
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    (Highly original, no?)

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 9:05 am |

    Happy Birthday Phil

  • Gretchen Atwood | January 3, 2010 at 10:12 am |

    Back off Phyllis George. Not her fault networks only hired female sports reporters back then if they were beauty queens and genuflected to just about any male anchor with an annoyingly affected speaking style and/or a hairpiece.

    The videos also remind me of two things:
    1) How annoying Brent Musberger was even back then.
    2) How good OJ Anderson was his rookie year and how awful most of his STL Cardinal teammates were.

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 10:13 am |

    Whoa, Paul. That FIBA video soundtrack — at first I was thinking, “uh, OK, it’s not fantastic, but ‘unlistenable?’ Come on.”

    But I’d have to say that your mini-review is dead-on-balls accurate and I should have followed your advice about the mute button.

    What the hell is that, anyway?

  • Gretchen Atwood | January 3, 2010 at 10:15 am |

    Back off Phyllis George. Not her fault networks only hired female sports reporters back then if they were beauty queens and genuflected to just about any male anchor with an annoyingly affected speaking style and/or a hairpiece.

    The videos remind me of two things:
    1) How annoying Brent Musberger even back then.
    2) How good OJ Anderson was his rookie year and how awful many of his St. Louis Cardinals teammates were.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 10:16 am |

    re: John Stallworth and WR setting up with hands on hips.

    Yes, hands on hips was quite common.
    Many coaches had recievers do it as a sort of semi-“set” posiiton, to prevent any arm movement that might have been seen as illegal motion. Other common version was arms at sides.

    However, I recall plenty of flankers and split ends (Raymond Berry, Tommy McDonald and Randy Vataha come to mind quickly) who still used the common three-point stance.

    Mostly it was individual preference. If I remember correctly, with the Colts, Lenny Moore stood straight up when he was playing flanker, while split end Berry was in three-point on the other side.

    —Ricko

  • Kevin G. | January 3, 2010 at 10:17 am |

    Paul, That isn’t the “name on back” (NOB) of the officials. I think it would be considered the “position on back” (POB). It stated which official was which… i.e. “Umpire”, “Referee” & “Side Judge”.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 10:23 am |

    The graphics on those CBS clips may look rinky-dink, but they weren’t. That was state-the-art.

    Anybody really rememember the first “Instant Replays”? Pioneered on AFL telecasts, I think (remember one of the first I saw was replay of catch by Oilers Charlie Hennigan). They could show it again at regular speed, but no slo-mo, as such. They could stop and start them, but not a specific places. Would leap forward a fixed number of frames and freeze. Then advance again, and stop. You got to see what was there wherever it stopped.

    Things change.

    —Ricko

  • Andrew Ross | January 3, 2010 at 10:25 am |

    Don’t forget CBS’s awesome 1980s NFL intro sequence

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 10:27 am |

    While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 10:27 am |

    Everybody!

    “Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday to you,
    Happy Birthday, Dear Phil,
    Happy Birthday to you.”

    And, of course, one yutz will continue,
    “How old are you…”

    (Take it, The Jeff) ;)

    Now, had Phil grown up in the Twin Cities, this most surely would warm his cockles…
    http://www.youtube.c...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.

  • DW | January 3, 2010 at 10:31 am |

    And here’s the full disco version of the 1970’s NBC Sports theme, by the same composer. Makes me think of Bryant Gumbel for some reason.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe ’81. One of the other, for sure.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]
    You got it Ricko. Just looked it up on Wiki, Dec 20, 1980 Jets @ Dolphins

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 10:42 am |

    I have a question.

    Wasn’t Texas Tech the first major football program to go with the monochrome black, including black socks and cleats?

    I kinda think they were (a decade ago, or earlier?) cuz I can’t recall anywhere else I saw it earlier…or maybe it could have been Cincinnati, or someone like Northern Illinois, perhaps?

    Pretty sure was a school that wears black with red.

    Perfectly willing to wrong, that’s why I’m asking.

    —Ricko

  • not Osama | January 3, 2010 at 10:47 am |

    Paul,
    You were not the only one transfixed to the TV once the music started to the CBS and NBC intros, I also experienced a Pavlovian reaction. (Still do!) It was the Sunday morning equal to Monday Night Football’s theme.
    As far as the debate between Phyllis and Jayne, Phyllis was OK but for me Jayne Kennedy was it. I had a huge crush on that otherworldly beauty : )
    (I was a kid in the Green Bay area, anyone not German, Polish or Irish qualified. In fact, even Italians seemed borderline exotic back then.)
    In terms of John Stallworth and hands on the hips it seems that the 70’s was the crossover period where you still had three point stance ‘split ends’ and the new ‘wide receiver’ upright stances.

  • subway | January 3, 2010 at 10:50 am |

    I remember NBC’s baseball game of the week intro ended with a catcher smiling from behind his mask. Think they used the same music, though I’m not totally sure.

  • Phil | January 3, 2010 at 10:51 am |

    That lever being pulled from the NFL Today intro reminded me of this. Skip to 3:35.
    http://www.youtube.c...?
    v=vmRfj2dF7gM&feature=related

  • Phil | January 3, 2010 at 10:53 am |

    Sorry about that
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • dgm | January 3, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    paul, why, exactly, do you refer to the nike thing as the “riflery program”? is it because of it being called “combat” whatever? i guess i missed when you first explained why you chose to refer to those unis as “riflery” unis.

  • Kevin G. | January 3, 2010 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”369908″][quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe ’81. One of the other, for sure.[/quote]
    It was the last game of the 1980 season. Jets @ Dolphins

  • NFL Fan 4ever | January 3, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    To answer the original discussion from today’s posting…one thing for certain: Phyllis George has aged EXTREMELY well…WOW!!!

    Who cares “who was lamer”…both Phyllis and Jayne paved the way for the Andrea Kramer’s/Hannah Storm’s/Erin Andrew’s of the sports world…

    Enjoy the games…

  • Hibbsy | January 3, 2010 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”369898″]Whoa, Paul. That FIBA video soundtrack — at first I was thinking, “uh, OK, it’s not fantastic, but ‘unlistenable?’ Come on.”

    But I’d have to say that your mini-review is dead-on-balls accurate and I should have followed your advice about the mute button.

    What the hell is that, anyway?[/quote]

    Hold on
    Hold on… children.
    Your best friends parents are leaving.

    Is that a bad thing? Are they leaving for good? Without him/her?

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”369916″][quote comment=”369908″][quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe ’81. One of the other, for sure.[/quote]
    It was the last game of the 1980 season. Jets @ Dolphins[/quote]
    Could you imagine any network attempting the same thing this weekend?
    Not likely. Hell, the League, the players union, would both have a fit. Now, the officials union would probably love it.

  • Thomas Clark | January 3, 2010 at 11:12 am |

    WTB 1/1/2010 full day tv ratings.

  • chris | January 3, 2010 at 11:14 am |

    For a few years in the early-to-mid 70s, NBC used that theme music for baseball, football, and even hockey. If you got to MLB.com and check out their free view of the ’75 All-Star game, you hear it. There used to be a clip on YouTube of the hockey theme but I can’t find it.

    How about Vin Scully calling football? You get those December afternoons in Minnesota an it’s not a very pleasant good afternoon to you, wherever you may be.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”369919″][quote comment=”369916″][quote comment=”369908″][quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe ’81. One of the other, for sure.[/quote]
    It was the last game of the 1980 season. Jets @ Dolphins[/quote]
    Could you imagine any network attempting the same thing this weekend?
    Not likely. Hell, the League, the players union, would both have a fit. Now, the officials union would probably love it.[/quote]

    It also was REALLY dull.
    Was a like watching an aquarium for three hours.

    —Ricko

  • Bruce | January 3, 2010 at 11:20 am |

    I believe that 1970 Dallas v Detroit playoff game
    ended with the Cowboys winning by the strange score of 5-0.

  • rpm | January 3, 2010 at 11:21 am |

    i reiterate from late last night phil…
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! enjoy your day, and…
    “who are you to refuse my sugar, who are you to refuse me anything.” ~i are dumb, what was i not thinking phil

  • Juke Early | January 3, 2010 at 11:35 am |

    I’m sure it shows what kind of guy I am-and I assure I understand usage of jargon in context. However – I’d choose Faith over Hank for that activity mentioned. And while any evidence of Phyllis George’s skills remains unknown to me, Jayne Kennedy’s is availabale for d/l. . ..

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 11:43 am |

    Stupid dome.
    -10F (no wind) in downtown Minneapolis right now.

    If were outdoors would make you want to wear your Snuggie just to watch it on TV…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”369923″]I believe that 1970 Dallas v Detroit playoff game
    ended with the Cowboys winning by the strange score of 5-0.[/quote]

    Yes, that is correct. It was the only time the Lions made the playoffs in the 70’s

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 11:48 am |

    If COLTS end up running the table from here on out, how long we think it will be before people stop talking about Caldwell sitting down Petyon and others last week?

    btw, my vote for “Dumbest Talking Head Comment of 2009” goes to Tony Kornheiser, who actually said Caldwell wasn’t being fair to gamblers and people who play fantasy football.

    Congratulations, Couch Potoatoes, you now officially matter. At least to Tony Kornheiser.

    —Ricko

  • Hibbsy | January 3, 2010 at 11:52 am |

    I didn’t realize that so many endzones were blank back then.

  • Thomas Clark | January 3, 2010 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”369928″]If COLTS end up running the table from here on out, how long we think it will be before people stop talking about Caldwell sitting down Petyon and others last week?

    btw, my vote for “Dumbest Talking Head Comment of 2009” goes to Tony Kornheiser, who actually said Caldwell wasn’t being fair to gamblers and people who play fantasy football.

    Congratulations, Couch Potoatoes, you now officially matter. At least to Tony Kornheiser.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Why not? Sports has morphed into being concerned with money above all else, right? Well Fantasy Football and Gambling are giant money makers these days.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”369930″][quote comment=”369928″]If COLTS end up running the table from here on out, how long we think it will be before people stop talking about Caldwell sitting down Petyon and others last week?

    btw, my vote for “Dumbest Talking Head Comment of 2009” goes to Tony Kornheiser, who actually said Caldwell wasn’t being fair to gamblers and people who play fantasy football.

    Congratulations, Couch Potoatoes, you now officially matter. At least to Tony Kornheiser.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Why not? Sports has morphed into being concerned with money above all else, right? Well Fantasy Football and Gambling are giant money makers these days.[/quote]

    Let’s just hope it never goes so far that the NFL (or any sport) officially says it should take into account those who need point spreads and imaginary games to stay interested in the product.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 12:25 pm |

    For those attending, or just watching, the Deep Freeze in Buffalo…
    http://auctions.over...
    http://www.globaltru...

    Not bad…if the girl is included.
    Athough she’s obviously a pro; doesn’t prefer one team over the other.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”369902″]The graphics on those CBS clips may look rinky-dink, but they weren’t. That was state-the-art.

    Anybody really rememember the first “Instant Replays”? Pioneered on AFL telecasts, I think (remember one of the first I saw was replay of catch by Oilers Charlie Hennigan). They could show it again at regular speed, but no slo-mo, as such. They could stop and start them, but not a specific places. Would leap forward a fixed number of frames and freeze. Then advance again, and stop. You got to see what was there wherever it stopped.

    Things change.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The first instant replay was used at an Army-Navy game…1963, I believe. Lindsay Nelson called the game.

    Didn’t see it (or anything else that year ’cause I wasn’t around yet), but I remember reading about it. The one time I won a radio call-in contest, it was for answering that question.

    My prize? A “Cow Christmas” CD. We listened to it a few times, but I wasn’t moooved enough to keep it…

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”369933″][quote comment=”369902″]The graphics on those CBS clips may look rinky-dink, but they weren’t. That was state-the-art.

    Anybody really rememember the first “Instant Replays”? Pioneered on AFL telecasts, I think (remember one of the first I saw was replay of catch by Oilers Charlie Hennigan). They could show it again at regular speed, but no slo-mo, as such. They could stop and start them, but not a specific places. Would leap forward a fixed number of frames and freeze. Then advance again, and stop. You got to see what was there wherever it stopped.

    Things change.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The first instant replay was used at an Army-Navy game…1963, I believe. Lindsay Nelson called the game.

    Didn’t see it (or anything else that year ’cause I wasn’t around yet), but I remember reading about it. The one time I won a radio call-in contest, it was for answering that question.

    My prize? A “Cow Christmas” CD. We listened to it a few times, but I wasn’t moooved enough to keep it…[/quote]

    ’63 seems right, because the Hennigan replay I so vividly recall came late in the season (probably after the Army-Navy game) and was in the home stripeless jersey and single-white-stripe helmet (three white sleeve stripes and additional stripes–two of them red—came with the new Oiler unis in ’64).

    —Ricko

  • M.Princip | January 3, 2010 at 12:32 pm |

    First & foremost Happy Birthday Phil!!!

    Love the vintage NFL videos. I’ve got a few on youtube as well. Mostly vintage Seahawks stuff, however, I do have this one featuring those cheap ass Rawlings helmets.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Now, that’s not the best NFL intro back in the day, yet, this Monday Night Football intro. is, in my opinion, the best.

    Goose bumps begin at the 31-second mark.

  • concealed78 | January 3, 2010 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”369928″]If COLTS end up running the table from here on out, how long we think it will be before people stop talking about Caldwell sitting down Petyon and others last week?

    btw, my vote for “Dumbest Talking Head Comment of 2009” goes to Tony Kornheiser, who actually said Caldwell wasn’t being fair to gamblers and people who play fantasy football.

    Congratulations, Couch Potoatoes, you now officially matter. At least to Tony Kornheiser.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Tony Kornheiser sucks. I for one get really annoyed when sports & gambling money go hand in hand. It’s sickening.

  • concealed78 | January 3, 2010 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”369930″][quote comment=”369928″]If COLTS end up running the table from here on out, how long we think it will be before people stop talking about Caldwell sitting down Petyon and others last week?

    btw, my vote for “Dumbest Talking Head Comment of 2009” goes to Tony Kornheiser, who actually said Caldwell wasn’t being fair to gamblers and people who play fantasy football.

    Congratulations, Couch Potoatoes, you now officially matter. At least to Tony Kornheiser.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Why not? Sports has morphed into being concerned with money above all else, right? Well Fantasy Football and Gambling are giant money makers these days.[/quote]

    Lame.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 12:40 pm |

    Happy Birthday Phil!

    And thanks, Paul, for sharing those videos with a wider audience. I remember every Sunday during the 70s watching the NFL Today, even if we watched the NBC game.

    I remember Jayne Kennedy, but just barely. I have warm memories of Phyllis (just warm, mind you…I was a mere lad waiting for football), as well as Brent, Irv…even The Greek…and Jack Whitaker’s commentaries.

    And of course, if I wasn’t watching the Steelers or Oilers, I was watching whatever game Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshier were calling. They seemed like two of my buddies.

    I even had fond memories of the beer commercials. I liked Ed McMahon’s “Holiday Greetings from Budweiser” and Natural Light’s “The Beer With the Taste For Food.” Beats the crap out of today’s stock trading and ED commercials…at least most of today’s beer ads are funny.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 12:40 pm |

    Whoa, almost time for the “Which Of You Teams Is Most Tired of Sucking Lately?” Bowl (Giants at Vikings).

    Actually, an interesting combination of colors, though:
    Purple, Athletic Gold, White vs. White, Royal, Red, Gray.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 12:50 pm |

    At the 3:19 mark of the first video, the illustration behind Brent turns from a RB into a kicker. Anyone know who that is? I have two guesses – either Mike Bragg…or…did Paul Hourning kick back in the day?

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”369934″][quote comment=”369933″][quote comment=”369902″]The graphics on those CBS clips may look rinky-dink, but they weren’t. That was state-the-art.

    Anybody really rememember the first “Instant Replays”? Pioneered on AFL telecasts, I think (remember one of the first I saw was replay of catch by Oilers Charlie Hennigan). They could show it again at regular speed, but no slo-mo, as such. They could stop and start them, but not a specific places. Would leap forward a fixed number of frames and freeze. Then advance again, and stop. You got to see what was there wherever it stopped.

    Things change.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The first instant replay was used at an Army-Navy game…1963, I believe. Lindsay Nelson called the game.

    Didn’t see it (or anything else that year ’cause I wasn’t around yet), but I remember reading about it. The one time I won a radio call-in contest, it was for answering that question.

    My prize? A “Cow Christmas” CD. We listened to it a few times, but I wasn’t moooved enough to keep it…[/quote]

    ’63 seems right, because the Hennigan replay I so vividly recall came late in the season (probably after the Army-Navy game) and was in the home stripeless jersey and single-white-stripe helmet (three white sleeve stripes and additional stripes–two of them red—came with the new Oiler unis in ’64).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    wasn’t the first EVER “instant” replay (not just nfl) ever one of the mickey mantle moonshots in (i think) 1961*

    im almost 99% certain that was the first ever time such a device was used

    as far as the nfl, no idea, but im pretty sure i heard that a mantle HR was the first ever use

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 12:58 pm |

    (today’s word of the day is “ever”)

  • interlockingtc | January 3, 2010 at 12:58 pm |

    The soundtrack of my youth: 1970’s NFL Pregame Show theme music.

    A lot of stuff sure looked better in the ’70’s (logos, socks, sleeves–look at the Eagles and Cardinals and Lions and tell me that they look better today), including the crude (though not at the time) graphics. What passes today as information on the screen is, to me, eye pollution.

    Yes, I am old. :)

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”369940″]At the 3:19 mark of the first video, the illustration behind Brent turns from a RB into a kicker. Anyone know who that is? I have two guesses – either Mike Bragg…or…did Paul Hourning kick back in the day?[/quote]
    Yessir.

    Field goals, too.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”369944″][quote comment=”369940″]At the 3:19 mark of the first video, the illustration behind Brent turns from a RB into a kicker. Anyone know who that is? I have two guesses – either Mike Bragg…or…did Paul Hourning kick back in the day?[/quote]
    Yessir.

    Field goals, too.[/quote]

    Colors are wigged out.
    RB is Browns’ Greg Pruitt.
    K is Cowboys’ Rafael Septien (holder back then was Charlie Waters, #41)

    —Ricko

  • leon | January 3, 2010 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”369940″]At the 3:19 mark of the first video, the illustration behind Brent turns from a RB into a kicker. Anyone know who that is? I have two guesses – either Mike Bragg…or…did Paul Hourning kick back in the day?[/quote]
    Could be Hornung:he was a placekicker. Bragg was a punter: Curt Knight was the Skins PK in those days.

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 1:07 pm |

    Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.

  • Marc | January 3, 2010 at 1:11 pm |

    Happy Birthday Phil. We appreciate everything you do for the website

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369947″]Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.[/quote]

    Bears on road, not unusual. Depends on which network has the doubleheader weekend.

    If it’s CBS’ weekend we get a game opposite a Vikings road game on Fox every time.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”369949″][quote comment=”369947″]Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.[/quote]

    Bears on road, not unusual. Depends on which network has the doubleheader weekend.

    If it’s CBS’ weekend we get a game opposite a Vikings road game on Fox every time.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Home or road game, I can’t remember the last time I flipped over to find a game on. Not this season, for sure. (Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying not when I’ve checked.)

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369946″][quote comment=”369940″]At the 3:19 mark of the first video, the illustration behind Brent turns from a RB into a kicker. Anyone know who that is? I have two guesses – either Mike Bragg…or…did Paul Hourning kick back in the day?[/quote]
    Could be Hornung:he was a placekicker. Bragg was a punter: Curt Knight was the Skins PK in those days.[/quote]

    Curt Knight…that’s who I meant. Thanks.

    Ricko, did Septien have big shoulder pads? I’m not doubting you, but all those years I thought that was a bigger striaght-on kicker instead of a little soccer-style guy. Then again, my TV was smaller those days and I never thought too deeply about it. I just assumed.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”369908″][quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe ’81. One of the other, for sure.[/quote]

    Remember it well – I believe it was a Saturday national telecast.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”369950″][quote comment=”369949″][quote comment=”369947″]Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.[/quote]

    Bears on road, not unusual. Depends on which network has the doubleheader weekend.

    If it’s CBS’ weekend we get a game opposite a Vikings road game on Fox every time.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Home or road game, I can’t remember the last time I flipped over to find a game on. Not this season, for sure. (Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying not when I’ve checked.)[/quote]

    SOP. Depends on which network has the DH. If, for example, it’s CBS and the local NFC team is on the road, that market gets both AFC games…unless, I suppose, local stations have the ability to opt out…which I rather doubt. Don’t think CBS would take kindly to losing, in your case, the Chicago market, no matter how minimal the viewership might be. Just too damn big a market to discard.

    —Ricko

  • odessa steps magazin | January 3, 2010 at 1:34 pm |

    I prefer the computer-animated graphics version of the NFL today open.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”369943″]The soundtrack of my youth: 1970’s NFL Pregame Show theme music.

    A lot of stuff sure looked better in the ’70’s (logos, socks, sleeves–look at the Eagles and Cardinals and Lions and tell me that they look better today), including the crude (though not at the time) graphics. What passes today as information on the screen is, to me, eye pollution.

    Yes, I am old. :)[/quote]
    Ahhh yes. I was SO geeked out for all this stuff – going back to NBC Baseball in the 1960s. The full half hour pregame shows for 70’s football were must see TV. Pre-merger in Baltimore we had a local pre-taped pregame before kickoff on the CBS afilliate. Seemed to be around 1970 that the national pregame shows took hold.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    Jax @ Browns (rd game, so not blacked out) feels like a football game, and looks damn cold.

    NY @ Minn has all the feel of an Arena game

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”369943″]The soundtrack of my youth: 1970’s NFL Pregame Show theme music.

    A lot of stuff sure looked better in the ’70’s (logos, socks, sleeves–look at the Eagles and Cardinals and Lions and tell me that they look better today), including the crude (though not at the time) graphics. What passes today as information on the screen is, to me, eye pollution.

    Yes, I am old. :)[/quote]

    I agree a lot of things looked better then. Two exceptions – Veterans Stadium, and barefoot punters and kickers. Didn’t look good in the 70s and I’m glad you don’t see them today.

    I do miss Busch Stadium. Yeah, it was a cookie-cutter stadium, but those sunlight arches were so cool. When I think of the Cardinals in the 70s, I think of those arches, diamond patterned endzones, Jim Hart and Roger Wherli. If it wasn’t for Conrad Dobler, they might have been my 2nd-favorite team.

    The graphics back then weren’t so much crude, as they were functional without being ostentatious.

  • Tom Farley | January 3, 2010 at 1:43 pm |

    Great topic! I’ve been trolling YouTube for a while now, looking for original-broadcast clips.

    When I saw Dandy Don in the 1978 Pro Bowl clip, I had to remind myself that that was his second stint on MNF. He left ABC briefly to do NBC games; he was a color commentator, alongside Curt Gowdy, for the “Sea of Hands” Dolphins-Raiders playoff in ’74.

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 1:45 pm |

    intersting factoid on instant replay

    while searching to see if there was any mention of (what i thought was first use by baseball)…apparently instant replay was invented for HNIC

    but the technology was never used

    the widely accepted (and mentioned here earlier) “first” use in IR, was indeed, the army-navy game:

    On December 7, 1963 TV and sports history was made when the first ‘instant replay’ ever seen on the air was broadcast during the Army-Navy game.

    The creator was 29-year-old ‘wunderkind’ CBS television director Tony Verna, whose illustrious show-business career has spanned over 50 years of Sport and Entertainment history

    still thought a mantle HR was earlier, but maybe it wasn’t considered instant replay

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”369951″][quote comment=”369946″][quote comment=”369940″]At the 3:19 mark of the first video, the illustration behind Brent turns from a RB into a kicker. Anyone know who that is? I have two guesses – either Mike Bragg…or…did Paul Hourning kick back in the day?[/quote]
    Could be Hornung:he was a placekicker. Bragg was a punter: Curt Knight was the Skins PK in those days.[/quote]

    Curt Knight…that’s who I meant. Thanks.

    Ricko, did Septien have big shoulder pads? I’m not doubting you, but all those years I thought that was a bigger striaght-on kicker instead of a little soccer-style guy. Then again, my TV was smaller those days and I never thought too deeply about it. I just assumed.[/quote]

    It’s the Cowboys. That much you could put money on(okay, holder could be Danny White; think he held for a time but Waters did for years, and it kinda looks like #41. Also, photo could go back to ’77, which would make it Effern Herrera, who was “portlier” than Septien and did wear bigger pads, as I recall. I’ll amend my earlier comment and say it’s Herrera and Waters).

    A) from that particular angle, soccer and straight-on kickers look remarkably alike at moment of impact.
    B) kicker’s wearing white shoes. By late ’70s when every NFL team but the Vikings wore white shoes, there weren’t very many straight-on kickers left, especially ones who wore a uni that would come close to matching that one; two wide white sleeve stripes and fairly apparent.

    —Ricko

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 1:47 pm |

    With the officials wearing their “ski” pants in Cleveland today, I wouldn’t be surprised if Garrard throws one of them a pass

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 1:48 pm |

    I’ve tried to find a youtube video of Joe Piscopo’s NFL pregame parody. The parody was only slightly more hilarious than the Bryant Gumbel days of the NFL ’79 or whatever….

  • interlockingtc | January 3, 2010 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”369957″][quote comment=”369943″]The soundtrack of my youth: 1970’s NFL Pregame Show theme music.

    A lot of stuff sure looked better in the ’70’s (logos, socks, sleeves–look at the Eagles and Cardinals and Lions and tell me that they look better today), including the crude (though not at the time) graphics. What passes today as information on the screen is, to me, eye pollution.

    Yes, I am old. :)[/quote]

    I agree a lot of things looked better then. Two exceptions – Veterans Stadium, and barefoot punters and kickers. Didn’t look good in the 70s and I’m glad you don’t see them today.

    I do miss Busch Stadium. Yeah, it was a cookie-cutter stadium, but those sunlight arches were so cool. When I think of the Cardinals in the 70s, I think of those arches, diamond patterned endzones, Jim Hart and Roger Wherli. If it wasn’t for Conrad Dobler, they might have been my 2nd-favorite team.

    The graphics back then weren’t so much crude, as they were functional without being ostentatious.[/quote]

    “…functional without being ostentatious>”

    Perfectly stated.

    I suppose, too, that the new stadiums today are…better…in general, but the cookie-cutters of the day (Riverfront, Three Rivers, Veterans, et al.)were another example of function and utility versus ostentation.

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 1:56 pm |

    great football music. Dont forget this one, tho- my favorite.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • M.Princip | January 3, 2010 at 2:09 pm |

    Been scanning a bunch of stuff today, for the Artists section of Illustrated NFL. Came across this awesome Zorn Flashback. Check out those awesome high school shoulder stripes.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”369964″]great football music. Dont forget this one, tho- my favorite.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Well, shoot, if we’re gonna get NFL music stuck in our heads, might as well post this one again…
    http://www.youtube.c...

    —Ricko

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369957″][quote comment=”369943″]The soundtrack of my youth: 1970’s NFL Pregame Show theme music.

    A lot of stuff sure looked better in the ’70’s (logos, socks, sleeves–look at the Eagles and Cardinals and Lions and tell me that they look better today), including the crude (though not at the time) graphics. What passes today as information on the screen is, to me, eye pollution.

    Yes, I am old. :)[/quote]

    I agree a lot of things looked better then. Two exceptions – Veterans Stadium, and barefoot punters and kickers. Didn’t look good in the 70s and I’m glad you don’t see them today.

    I do miss Busch Stadium. Yeah, it was a cookie-cutter stadium, but those sunlight arches were so cool. When I think of the Cardinals in the 70s, I think of those arches, diamond patterned endzones, Jim Hart and Roger Wherli. If it wasn’t for Conrad Dobler, they might have been my 2nd-favorite team.

    The graphics back then weren’t so much crude, as they were functional without being ostentatious.[/quote]

    played HS soccer in that era, and wondered what it would be like to kick a football, barefoot, the same way. Hurt like you can’t believe. THAT experiment did not last. Back to my very cool sold-in-Germany only black with yellow “Gerd Muller Goal” adidas. Some local old German car parts guys sold imported Adidas out of their back room. Once I found out, my whole team went over there, heh. “Saybrook Imports.”

  • Tom Farley | January 3, 2010 at 2:18 pm |

    I’ve tried to find a youtube video of Joe Piscopo’s NFL pregame parody. The parody was only slightly more hilarious than the Bryant Gumbel days of the NFL ‘79 or whatever….
    He did a funny bit after the Cardinals beat the Brewers in the ’82 Series. I was still feeling the sting of the loss at the time, but I must acknowledge that Harvey’s Wallbangers were a scruffy, tobacco juice-spitting, crotch-grabbing bunch.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369967″][quote comment=”369957″][quote comment=”369943″]The soundtrack of my youth: 1970’s NFL Pregame Show theme music.

    A lot of stuff sure looked better in the ’70’s (logos, socks, sleeves–look at the Eagles and Cardinals and Lions and tell me that they look better today), including the crude (though not at the time) graphics. What passes today as information on the screen is, to me, eye pollution.

    Yes, I am old. :)[/quote]

    I agree a lot of things looked better then. Two exceptions – Veterans Stadium, and barefoot punters and kickers. Didn’t look good in the 70s and I’m glad you don’t see them today.

    I do miss Busch Stadium. Yeah, it was a cookie-cutter stadium, but those sunlight arches were so cool. When I think of the Cardinals in the 70s, I think of those arches, diamond patterned endzones, Jim Hart and Roger Wherli. If it wasn’t for Conrad Dobler, they might have been my 2nd-favorite team.

    The graphics back then weren’t so much crude, as they were functional without being ostentatious.[/quote]

    played HS soccer in that era, and wondered what it would be like to kick a football, barefoot, the same way. Hurt like you can’t believe. THAT experiment did not last. Back to my very cool sold-in-Germany only black with yellow “Gerd Muller Goal” adidas. Some local old German car parts guys sold imported Adidas out of their back room. Once I found out, my whole team went over there, heh. “Saybrook Imports.”[/quote]

    I learned to punt barefoot. My uncle (who’d played for the Gophers) told me it was best way to learn. He was correct. When you strike the ball properly, doesn’t hurt at all. That’s how you know you’re doing it right. When you’ve got that down, you can put your shoe back on.

    —-Ricko

  • Joel | January 3, 2010 at 2:32 pm |

    talking about the winter classic and how the best part was the players with eye-black, when i first saw them with it on it reminded me on fulton reed from the mighty duck movies

    http://www.joblo.com...

  • Steven | January 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm |

    This used to be the soundtrack of kids across the Atlantic being allowed to stay up late. What a 60 seconds…

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”369953″][quote comment=”369950″][quote comment=”369949″][quote comment=”369947″]Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.[/quote]

    Bears on road, not unusual. Depends on which network has the doubleheader weekend.

    If it’s CBS’ weekend we get a game opposite a Vikings road game on Fox every time.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Home or road game, I can’t remember the last time I flipped over to find a game on. Not this season, for sure. (Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying not when I’ve checked.)[/quote]

    SOP. Depends on which network has the DH. If, for example, it’s CBS and the local NFC team is on the road, that market gets both AFC games…unless, I suppose, local stations have the ability to opt out…which I rather doubt. Don’t think CBS would take kindly to losing, in your case, the Chicago market, no matter how minimal the viewership might be. Just too damn big a market to discard.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Yeah, I guess the point of my original post (and the follow-up, for that matter) wasn’t clear. I’m just saying that I’m glad that there’s an alternative available on a day that I’m actually looking for one. Despite the decades of history between the two teams, Bears/Lions isn’t exactly a must-see game on January 3, 2010.

    The game doesn’t have a whole lot of playoff implications. About the only thing in question today is whether or not Jay Cutler can break the single-season interception record. I’m pretty sure that’s safe, but 30 isn’t out of the question.

  • Kek | January 3, 2010 at 3:11 pm |

    Faith Hill can bl….. naw, you made that way too easy Paul.

    NFL Officials went NOB at one time? I knew they were Position on back but didn’t know they did NOB like the NHL officials did for years.

    Vin Scully called football games?

    Wang Computers…hehehe (OK, I need to grow up!)

  • Whitllam | January 3, 2010 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”369922″][quote comment=”369919″][quote comment=”369916″][quote comment=”369908″][quote comment=”369906″][quote comment=”369904″]While watching that ’78 NFL Today Intro I couldn’t help but remember the Jets “silent game”, I think it was in ’80. I remember being riveted to the TV for the whole game.[/quote]

    1980, Jets at Dolphins, I believe.[/quote]

    Or maybe ’81. One of the other, for sure.[/quote]
    It was the last game of the 1980 season. Jets @ Dolphins[/quote]
    Could you imagine any network attempting the same thing this weekend?
    Not likely. Hell, the League, the players union, would both have a fit. Now, the officials union would probably love it.[/quote]

    It also was REALLY dull.
    Was a like watching an aquarium for three hours.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    If you’re watching the game in HD and have a 5.1 sound setup, you can get the same effect by simply disconnecting the center channel since that’s the only channel the announcers should be on if the sound is mixed properly. You still get all the crowd noise, officials, etc!

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”369972″][quote comment=”369953″][quote comment=”369950″][quote comment=”369949″][quote comment=”369947″]Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.[/quote]

    Bears on road, not unusual. Depends on which network has the doubleheader weekend.

    If it’s CBS’ weekend we get a game opposite a Vikings road game on Fox every time.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Home or road game, I can’t remember the last time I flipped over to find a game on. Not this season, for sure. (Not saying it didn’t happen, just saying not when I’ve checked.)[/quote]

    SOP. Depends on which network has the DH. If, for example, it’s CBS and the local NFC team is on the road, that market gets both AFC games…unless, I suppose, local stations have the ability to opt out…which I rather doubt. Don’t think CBS would take kindly to losing, in your case, the Chicago market, no matter how minimal the viewership might be. Just too damn big a market to discard.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Yeah, I guess the point of my original post (and the follow-up, for that matter) wasn’t clear. I’m just saying that I’m glad that there’s an alternative available on a day that I’m actually looking for one. Despite the decades of history between the two teams, Bears/Lions isn’t exactly a must-see game on January 3, 2010.

    The game doesn’t have a whole lot of playoff implications. About the only thing in question today is whether or not Jay Cutler can break the single-season interception record. I’m pretty sure that’s safe, but 30 isn’t out of the question.[/quote]

    I believe in week 17 both networks have doubleheaders due to the fact there is no Monday night game in week 17. The only reason we are not getting a CBS game in Detroit is the Lions sold out at home thanks to all the Bears fans.

    On a sidenote, between all the blackout and Lions injuries this year, I don’t know half the people playing for the Lie downs.

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 3:20 pm |

    Starting in 2006, both networks air a double-header in week 17

    Just found it on Wiki under NFL broadcast rights.

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”369975″]The only reason we are not getting a CBS game in Detroit is the Lions sold out at home thanks to all the Bears fans.
    [/quote]
    I’m sorry for that.

    I guess it’s like the reverse of how Blackhawks/Red Wings games at the UC used to be. Except that we weren’t going to get to see the game on TV even with the sellout.

  • Komet17 | January 3, 2010 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”369947″]Whoa! CBS is counter-programming the Bears game on Fox with a *gasp* NFL game? I was expecting to flip over and see a gardening show or something.

    And it looks like we get NFL double-headers on both networks today. Shocking.[/quote]

    Actually, NOT shocking.

    Both networks have had doubleheaders on the final Sunday of the season for the past several seasons.

    Two reasons: (1) Since there are 17 Sundays in the season, there needs to be one weekend when both networks have doubleheaders so that each has the same number of doubleheaders; (2) Four games broadcast on the final Sunday gives the most chance of showing games with playoff implications.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”369977″][quote comment=”369975″]The only reason we are not getting a CBS game in Detroit is the Lions sold out at home thanks to all the Bears fans.
    [/quote]
    I’m sorry for that.

    I guess it’s like the reverse of how Blackhawks/Red Wings games at the UC used to be. Except that we weren’t going to get to see the game on TV even with the sellout.[/quote]

    NFL used to be that way, too, of course. There were no regular-season home games on TV in the home team’s market, no matter what.

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”369977″][quote comment=”369975″]The only reason we are not getting a CBS game in Detroit is the Lions sold out at home thanks to all the Bears fans.
    [/quote]
    I’m sorry for that.

    I guess it’s like the reverse of how Blackhawks/Red Wings games at the UC used to be. Except that we weren’t going to get to see the game on TV even with the sellout.[/quote]

    That is OK. Between the mismanagement under Millen and the shitty new number font on the jerseys I really don’t care for the Lions much. Just watching them cause their ain’t much on otherwise. Where is the movie “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance” today? I was on New Year’s Day opposite all the football and hockey when I couldn’t watch it.

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 3:57 pm |

    The Niners are gonna go to 8-8, but this game was PATHETIC. FIFTY TWO TOTAL YARDS OFFENSE IN THE FIRST HALF.

    and boy, look at that Giants score. Talk about shutting her down and giving up.

    HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS. pleaseplease have the game on here at 1…

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”369981″]The Niners are gonna go to 8-8, but this game was PATHETIC. FIFTY TWO TOTAL YARDS OFFENSE IN THE FIRST HALF.

    and boy, look at that Giants score. Talk about shutting her down and giving up.

    HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS. pleaseplease have the game on here at 1…[/quote]

    yeah…the giants wanted to beat the cowboys to the links by one week this year

  • Greenie | January 3, 2010 at 4:23 pm |

    If the Cowboys beat the Eagles, then Minnesota will get the #2 seed and the Eagles will have to go back to Dallas for the first week of the playoffs. By Minnesota winning, the Packers are already guaranteed to play Arizona on the road again next week.

    Has it ever happened before that the first two wild card games were repeats of the last week of the season?

    And Rogers-Cromartie was just taken off the field with ‘a hole in his tights’. His knee caught a Packer’s cleat, ouch.

    -Greenie

  • LarryB | January 3, 2010 at 4:45 pm |

    Today’s old NFL clips were fun to watch. I remember them well.

    The Phyllis George Jane Kennedy debate is a tough call. Just think about today how we now have all these female sideline reporters although mostly covering college.

    We know where it all started.

  • LarryB | January 3, 2010 at 4:47 pm |

    And happy Birthday to Phil. I was so surprised to learn the guy was only 29 at least according to Paul’s wish the other day.

    sarcasm mode on

  • LarryB | January 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm |

    http://farm5.static....

    I did notice that glitch the other day watching the Rose Bowl. I had not thought about the reason for it at the time.

  • Tom Farley | January 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm |

    Has it ever happened before that the first two wild card games were repeats of the last week of the season?
    I don’t know about repeats on the first two WC games. But I know the Lions and Packers played the ’93 season finale at the Silverdome, then played again six days later, again in Pontiac, in the playoffs.

    Didn’t the Jets and Raiders do the same thing in the past few years? My memory’s fuzzier on that.

  • UmpLou | January 3, 2010 at 5:05 pm |

    The main reason the announcer less game failed, was because it was TOO EARLY – there was no such thing as stereo TV yet. Plus, the Orange Bowl was a very bad place to do it, acoustically speaking – it literally soakied up the sound. I think TODAY, with a good portion of the audience having HD/Surround Sound, the SOA graphics available, it would be an AWESOME thing to revisit.

  • Mary | January 3, 2010 at 5:10 pm |

    For you Barrel-Man lovers:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Even though they are abominations, still fun to have. I have a red Angels TATC jersey I hope to wear to a West Coast Uni gathering…..someday.

  • Greenie | January 3, 2010 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”369987″]Has it ever happened before that the first two wild card games were repeats of the last week of the season?
    I don’t know about repeats on the first two WC games. But I know the Lions and Packers played the ’93 season finale at the Silverdome, then played again six days later, again in Pontiac, in the playoffs.

    Didn’t the Jets and Raiders do the same thing in the past few years? My memory’s fuzzier on that.[/quote]

    Philly and Tampa Bay did so a few years back. That’s all I remember with doing some research.

    -Greenie

    Congrats Dan, you’re my anti-spam word again!

    And Happy Birthday Phil! forgot that earlier…

  • Greenie | January 3, 2010 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=\”369990\”][quote comment=\”369987\”]Has it ever happened before that the first two wild card games were repeats of the last week of the season?
    I don\’t know about repeats on the first two WC games. But I know the Lions and Packers played the \’93 season finale at the Silverdome, then played again six days later, again in Pontiac, in the playoffs.

    Didn\’t the Jets and Raiders do the same thing in the past few years? My memory\’s fuzzier on that.[/quote]

    Philly and Tampa Bay did so a few years back. That\’s all I remember withOUT doing some research.

    -Greenie
    [/quote]

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369988″]The main reason the announcer less game failed, was because it was TOO EARLY – there was no such thing as stereo TV yet. Plus, the Orange Bowl was a very bad place to do it, acoustically speaking – it literally soakied up the sound. I think TODAY, with a good portion of the audience having HD/Surround Sound, the SOA graphics available, it would be an AWESOME thing to revisit.[/quote]

    Wasn’t that game announcerless because NBC had their sound equipment was stolen from the stadium the night before the game?

  • A.G. | January 3, 2010 at 5:14 pm |

    Was great to see that clip of the Cowboys and the Lions played at the ‘Ol Cotton Bowl! Was one of my favorite venues to watch New Years Day football!

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 5:21 pm |

    ESPN NFL – Reports: Redskins plan to fire coach Jim Zorn on Monday

    Shocked.

  • A.G. | January 3, 2010 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369926″]Stupid dome.
    -10F (no wind) in downtown Minneapolis right now.

    If were outdoors would make you want to wear your Snuggie just to watch it on TV…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Wasn’t until years later after they moved out of the MET that I realized both teams shared the same sideline!

  • Greg B. | January 3, 2010 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”369914″]Sorry about that
    http://www.youtube.c...

    It also reminds me of this, at about the 0:25 mark:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Any support for the NFL adopting a “NOB Rule” requiring that the NOB not be obscured? Call it the Polamalu rule if you want, but I get irritated with the increasing number of players whose hair effects cover the top back half of their unis.

  • A.G. | January 3, 2010 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”369938″]Happy Birthday Phil!

    And thanks, Paul, for sharing those videos with a wider audience. I remember every Sunday during the 70s watching the NFL Today, even if we watched the NBC game.

    I remember Jayne Kennedy, but just barely. I have warm memories of Phyllis (just warm, mind you…I was a mere lad waiting for football), as well as Brent, Irv…even The Greek…and Jack Whitaker’s commentaries.

    And of course, if I wasn’t watching the Steelers or Oilers, I was watching whatever game Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshier were calling. They seemed like two of my buddies.

    I even had fond memories of the beer commercials. I liked Ed McMahon’s “Holiday Greetings from Budweiser” and Natural Light’s “The Beer With the Taste For Food.” Beats the crap out of today’s stock trading and ED commercials…at least most of today’s beer ads are funny.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”369994″]ESPN NFL – Reports: Redskins plan to fire coach Jim Zorn on Monday

    Shocked.[/quote]

    As a kid back then I yearned for Steeler/Oiler games!
    Great commercials too! Tuborg Gold, Natural Light, Taste Great Less Filling. Remember the Schlitz Malt Liquor commercials with the bull charging thru the bar? Or the Sperry Post Game Show…and who could forget NBC’s “Fantastic Finishes” at the 2 minute warning?
    Was always great to hear Summerall & Brookshier too…they were like uncles!

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”369982″][quote comment=”369981″]The Niners are gonna go to 8-8, but this game was PATHETIC. FIFTY TWO TOTAL YARDS OFFENSE IN THE FIRST HALF.

    and boy, look at that Giants score. Talk about shutting her down and giving up.

    HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS. pleaseplease have the game on here at 1…[/quote]

    yeah…the giants wanted to beat the cowboys to the links by one week this year[/quote]

    Well, for a team that is booking it’s tee time, Dallas doesn’t look too bad. Up 17-0 @ the 2 minute mark, and Philly’s got 12 yards rushing for two quarters of work. Dallas appears motivated. This IS for just the division title. If D wins, the Eagles get to come back to JerryWorld in one week. Cool.

  • BuckeyeMark | January 3, 2010 at 5:33 pm |

    ref got clocked in the second qtr of the Philly-Cowboys game. his zebra shirt got a serious rip in it. interestingly, the stripes appear to be an overlay stitched over the black shirt – it’s not a black shirt with white stripes screen printed on.

    it’s the ref with the pom pom’s on the hat too. maybe the Beagle hit him because he didn’t like the hat.

  • timmy b | January 3, 2010 at 5:45 pm |

    Boy, you hit me where I belong on these TV NFL memories.

    Do you remember…

    Frank Gifford hosting the NFL Today with the drum cadence opening (and the logos of each of the NFL teams whizzing by on the screen.

    With the score (example: Green Bay 10, Detroit 7), let’s pause for a moment (CBS commericial intro)

    Curt Gowdy at the top of the hour, “We now pause five seconds for station identification. This is the NBC Television Network.”

    NBC with no pre-game show (didn’t come along until 1975).

    Split feed audio on CBS (example: Giants at Browns. NY viewers heard Jack Whitaker and Frank Gifford. Cleveland viewers heard Frank Glieber and Warren Lahr).

    The “CBS Sports” ticket tearing in half, with a ref’s whstle blowing. Then then “Confidence” song starts up as the CBS voiceover intones: “CBS Sports presents, the National Football League. Brought to you by, Ford. Who has a better idea. By Firestone. Where the rubber meets the road. By The American Oil Company. You expect more from American. And you get it. By Marlboro. Come to where the flavor is. Come to Marlboro Country. And by Pabst Blue Ribbon beer. A popular beer at popular prices.”

    Good afternoon. I’m Ray Scott. Alongside me, Pat Summerall.

    At halftime, we’ll be showing you the Wilson High School marching band, and then we’ll go to CBS Control with Bill Mazer bringing you first half highlights and statistics. So don’t go away!

    Pro Football Report with Bruce Roberts in Chicago (CBS postgame highlights show). While over at NBC, Pat Hernon hosts the Sperry-NFL Report.

    Ya want more? Check here for a history of who called most every NFL/AFL game since 1953 here:

    http://the506.com/ya...

    I know this is a major disgression, but thought you’d like to have your memory bank triggered.

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”369980″][quote comment=”369977″][quote comment=”369975″]The only reason we are not getting a CBS game in Detroit is the Lions sold out at home thanks to all the Bears fans.
    [/quote]
    I’m sorry for that.

    I guess it’s like the reverse of how Blackhawks/Red Wings games at the UC used to be. Except that we weren’t going to get to see the game on TV even with the sellout.[/quote]

    That is OK. Between the mismanagement under Millen and the shitty new number font on the jerseys I really don’t care for the Lions much. Just watching them cause their ain’t much on otherwise. Where is the movie “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance” today? I was on New Year’s Day opposite all the football and hockey when I couldn’t watch it.[/quote]
    That’s why I was apologizing. My brethren snapped up enough tickets to force Fox to show you that game and lock you out of a different one.

    Y’know, I really don’t mind that font for the numbers as much as I thought I would. But I definitely don’t care for it on the LIONS wordmark in the end zone. The thing I really can’t stand is the black facemasks.

  • Phat | January 3, 2010 at 5:53 pm |

    Can we christen the unitards that Arizona is wearing the ‘Used Tampons’ uniforms? Because that is the very first thing I thought when they took the field today.

    Fuckin’ yikes.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”369997″][quote comment=”369938″]Happy Birthday Phil!

    And thanks, Paul, for sharing those videos with a wider audience. I remember every Sunday during the 70s watching the NFL Today, even if we watched the NBC game.

    I remember Jayne Kennedy, but just barely. I have warm memories of Phyllis (just warm, mind you…I was a mere lad waiting for football), as well as Brent, Irv…even The Greek…and Jack Whitaker’s commentaries.

    And of course, if I wasn’t watching the Steelers or Oilers, I was watching whatever game Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshier were calling. They seemed like two of my buddies.

    I even had fond memories of the beer commercials. I liked Ed McMahon’s “Holiday Greetings from Budweiser” and Natural Light’s “The Beer With the Taste For Food.” Beats the crap out of today’s stock trading and ED commercials…at least most of today’s beer ads are funny.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”369994″]ESPN NFL – Reports: Redskins plan to fire coach Jim Zorn on Monday

    Shocked.[/quote]

    As a kid back then I yearned for Steeler/Oiler games!
    Great commercials too! Tuborg Gold, Natural Light, Taste Great Less Filling. Remember the Schlitz Malt Liquor commercials with the bull charging thru the bar? Or the Sperry Post Game Show…and who could forget NBC’s “Fantastic Finishes” at the 2 minute warning?
    Was always great to hear Summerall & Brookshier too…they were like uncles![/quote]

    You’ll love this, A.G.! http://www.youtube.c...
    I think pretty much the whole game is on here, in ten-minute segments. Imagine if that game was played at Heinz Field…

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 6:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369969″]played HS soccer in that era, and wondered what it would be like to kick a football, barefoot, the same way. Hurt like you can’t believe. THAT experiment did not last. Back to my very cool sold-in-Germany only black with yellow “Gerd Muller Goal” adidas. Some local old German car parts guys sold imported Adidas out of their back room. Once I found out, my whole team went over there, heh. “Saybrook Imports.”[/quote]

    I learned to punt barefoot. My uncle (who’d played for the Gophers) told me it was best way to learn. He was correct. When you strike the ball properly, doesn’t hurt at all. That’s how you know you’re doing it right. When you’ve got that down, you can put your shoe back on.

    —-Ricko[/quote]

    That would make sense, becasue I’ve kicked in some pretty thin shoes before, and I barely felt it when I hit it right. I’d be willing to try it on a practice field, but there’s no way I would have gone in to a game barefoot. It amazes me that none of those guys got stepped on in kickoff coverage. I could see some old-school coaches assigning someone to step on their toes.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”370004″][quote comment=”369969″]played HS soccer in that era, and wondered what it would be like to kick a football, barefoot, the same way. Hurt like you can’t believe. THAT experiment did not last. Back to my very cool sold-in-Germany only black with yellow “Gerd Muller Goal” adidas. Some local old German car parts guys sold imported Adidas out of their back room. Once I found out, my whole team went over there, heh. “Saybrook Imports.”[/quote]

    I learned to punt barefoot. My uncle (who’d played for the Gophers) told me it was best way to learn. He was correct. When you strike the ball properly, doesn’t hurt at all. That’s how you know you’re doing it right. When you’ve got that down, you can put your shoe back on.

    —-Ricko[/quote]

    That would make sense, becasue I’ve kicked in some pretty thin shoes before, and I barely felt it when I hit it right. I’d be willing to try it on a practice field, but there’s no way I would have gone in to a game barefoot. It amazes me that none of those guys got stepped on in kickoff coverage. I could see some old-school coaches assigning someone to step on their toes.[/quote]

    Besides, it just made the kickers seem even more flaky.

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 7:00 pm |

    The Philly media is calling the Eagles “Gutless.”

    http://www.philly.co...

    OOoo, getting ugly.

    And here I am reduced to “watching” the game on the Fox website.

    http://msn.foxsports...

    Ah well. A win is a win. See ya next week, Donovan.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 7:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”370005″][quote comment=”370004″][quote comment=”369969″]played HS soccer in that era, and wondered what it would be like to kick a football, barefoot, the same way. Hurt like you can’t believe. THAT experiment did not last. Back to my very cool sold-in-Germany only black with yellow “Gerd Muller Goal” adidas. Some local old German car parts guys sold imported Adidas out of their back room. Once I found out, my whole team went over there, heh. “Saybrook Imports.”[/quote]

    I learned to punt barefoot. My uncle (who’d played for the Gophers) told me it was best way to learn. He was correct. When you strike the ball properly, doesn’t hurt at all. That’s how you know you’re doing it right. When you’ve got that down, you can put your shoe back on.

    —-Ricko[/quote]

    That would make sense, becasue I’ve kicked in some pretty thin shoes before, and I barely felt it when I hit it right. I’d be willing to try it on a practice field, but there’s no way I would have gone in to a game barefoot. It amazes me that none of those guys got stepped on in kickoff coverage. I could see some old-school coaches assigning someone to step on their toes.[/quote]

    Besides, it just made the kickers seem even more flaky.[/quote]
    All my buddies used to rail about kickers wearing two different shoes – saw it as a “look at me” thing. Soccer shoes for kicking are drastically different from football shoes, I would tell them. That said, if the soccer shoe was designed and fitted properly, I would see no advantage to kicking barefoot.

  • M.Princip | January 3, 2010 at 7:32 pm |

    I absolutely love how the Seahawks look in the blue jersey and dark navy blue pants.

    Warren Sapp was right, Greg Knapp is terrible. Thankfully, this season is over, and the last play of the game pretty much summed it up best for the 2009 Seahawks. Hopefully, the new GM will sack Knapp.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 7:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”370008″][quote comment=”370005″][quote comment=”370004″][quote comment=”369969″]played HS soccer in that era, and wondered what it would be like to kick a football, barefoot, the same way. Hurt like you can’t believe. THAT experiment did not last. Back to my very cool sold-in-Germany only black with yellow “Gerd Muller Goal” adidas. Some local old German car parts guys sold imported Adidas out of their back room. Once I found out, my whole team went over there, heh. “Saybrook Imports.”[/quote]

    I learned to punt barefoot. My uncle (who’d played for the Gophers) told me it was best way to learn. He was correct. When you strike the ball properly, doesn’t hurt at all. That’s how you know you’re doing it right. When you’ve got that down, you can put your shoe back on.

    —-Ricko[/quote]

    That would make sense, becasue I’ve kicked in some pretty thin shoes before, and I barely felt it when I hit it right. I’d be willing to try it on a practice field, but there’s no way I would have gone in to a game barefoot. It amazes me that none of those guys got stepped on in kickoff coverage. I could see some old-school coaches assigning someone to step on their toes.[/quote]

    Besides, it just made the kickers seem even more flaky.[/quote]
    All my buddies used to rail about kickers wearing two different shoes – saw it as a “look at me” thing. Soccer shoes for kicking are drastically different from football shoes, I would tell them. That said, if the soccer shoe was designed and fitted properly, I would see no advantage to kicking barefoot.[/quote]

    I imagine the barefoot thing is just what a guy is used to. I certainly wasn’t advocating kicking barefoot, just saying that when you’re a kid it’s a great way to learn…or, I suppose, get your technique back again if goes a little south on you.

    The “different shoes” rule actually pre-dated Pete Gogolak and those who followed him. It was on the books to allow straight-on kickers to wear a square-toed shoe.

    se: Jim O’Brien winning Super Bowl V with a square-toed Riddell on one foot and a regular adidas turf shoe on the other. He was a backup receiver, too, and changed to the Riddell as FG opportunities came approached. Check the toes of Paul Hornung’s shoes…
    http://blog.seattlet...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 7:59 pm |

    Jim O’Brien, SB V.
    http://www.corbisima...

    —Ricko

  • Graf Zeppelin | January 3, 2010 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”369987″]Has it ever happened before that the first two wild card games were repeats of the last week of the season?
    I don’t know about repeats on the first two WC games. But I know the Lions and Packers played the ’93 season finale at the Silverdome, then played again six days later, again in Pontiac, in the playoffs.

    Didn’t the Jets and Raiders do the same thing in the past few years? My memory’s fuzzier on that.[/quote]

    Yes; Jets and Raiders played each other in Oakland in the final game of the ’01 season; Jets won 24-22 on a 52-yd John Hall FG to make the playoffs. Back in Oakland the next week, Raiders won 38-24.

    In the last game of 1991, the Raiders and Chiefs played in L.A. already knowing they would play each other in the wild-card round; only question was where, winner would host the game. Chiefs won 27-21 despite Todd Marinovich throwing 3 TDs in his starting debut; the next week in KC, Chiefs won 10-6.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm |

    Ah, yes, love those old All-Star Game jerseys…
    http://a.espncdn.com...

    —Ricko

  • Geeman | January 3, 2010 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”369973″]Faith Hill can bl….. naw, you made that way too easy Paul.

    [/quote]

    Ah, yeah, get in line, Lukas!

  • Geeman | January 3, 2010 at 8:14 pm |

    The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 8:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”370012″]Jim O’Brien, SB V.
    http://www.corbisima...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They still make square-toe shoes? I’d love a pair, even though I’m only kicking for…kicks. I’ve never worn anything other than regular turf shoes, and for the times I kick straight-on I just curl up my toes. Very little margin for error. Never had soccer shoes, either, for when I switch styles.

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”370015″][quote comment=”369973″]Faith Hill can bl….. naw, you made that way too easy Paul.

    [/quote]

    Ah, yeah, get in line, Lukas![/quote]

    I don’t like the song, but FH can be on the intro anytime she likes.

  • Geeman | January 3, 2010 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”370016″]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it’s on my “mix” tape of sports themes.

  • Graf Zeppelin | January 3, 2010 at 8:24 pm |

    YAY! Green over white!

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”370015″][quote comment=”369973″]Faith Hill can bl….. naw, you made that way too easy Paul.

    [/quote]

    Ah, yeah, get in line, Lukas![/quote]

    Oh, man, that’s really cruel. Somewhere guys playing color-on-color Madden are trying to decide whether to hit “Save Game” and get in that line…or just keep playing.

    –Ricko

  • M.Princip | January 3, 2010 at 8:26 pm |

    Joan Jett should be getting paid for letting Faith Hill and MNF completely rape that song, “Hate Myself for Loving you”.

  • Jake | January 3, 2010 at 8:26 pm |

    Jim,

    You can get square-toe kicking shoes, but they are about $150. You can get some stupid velcro strap that hooks onto the front cleat and wraps around your ankle to pull your toe up to kind of emulate a square-toe shoe, but they are kind of sucky.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 8:32 pm |

    ANOB (Appropriate Name On Back) at the Colts/Bills game: http://a.espncdn.com...

    Hey, while you’re at it, throw your team’s unis on top of that: http://a.espncdn.com...

    Used to love doing this in the back yard, pretending to be Walter Payton: http://a.espncdn.com...

    Snow can cover a multitude of sins, but it didn’t make the Bills look any better. Great shot, though: http://a.espncdn.com...

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 8:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”370022″]Joan Jett should be getting paid for letting Faith Hill and MNF completely rape that song, “Hate Myself for Loving you”.[/quote]

    Only if she wrote it.

  • Geeman | January 3, 2010 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”370021″][quote comment=”370015″][quote comment=”369973″]Faith Hill can bl….. naw, you made that way too easy Paul.

    [/quote]

    Ah, yeah, get in line, Lukas![/quote]

    Oh, man, that’s really cruel. Somewhere guys playing color-on-color Madden are trying to decide whether to hit “Save Game” and get in that line…or just keep playing.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Thank God I don’t play video games. First in line. Jayne Kennedy in her day tops Faith Hill.

  • Geeman | January 3, 2010 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”370026″][quote comment=”370021″][quote comment=”370015″][quote comment=”369973″]Faith Hill can bl….. naw, you made that way too easy Paul.

    [/quote]

    Ah, yeah, get in line, Lukas![/quote]

    Oh, man, that’s really cruel. Somewhere guys playing color-on-color Madden are trying to decide whether to hit “Save Game” and get in that line…or just keep playing.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Thank God I don’t play video games. First in line. Jayne Kennedy in her day tops Faith Hill.[/quote]

    By the way, Ricko, that was LOL funny! Have a good night, everyone — I will!

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”370023″]Jim,

    You can get square-toe kicking shoes, but they are about $150. You can get some stupid velcro strap that hooks onto the front cleat and wraps around your ankle to pull your toe up to kind of emulate a square-toe shoe, but they are kind of sucky.[/quote]

    Meh, I’ll just go to the mall. I think Skechers or someone like that sells square-ish sneakers. Never paid more than $70 for a pair of shoes, and if I’m not on a team I’m not plunking down that much.

    Thanks for the info, though.

  • Ricko | January 3, 2010 at 8:40 pm |

    Finally figured it out today.
    Bills mono navy looks they all came right to the game from their jobs at Jiffy Lube.

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 8:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”370028″][quote comment=”370023″]Jim,

    You can get square-toe kicking shoes, but they are about $150. You can get some stupid velcro strap that hooks onto the front cleat and wraps around your ankle to pull your toe up to kind of emulate a square-toe shoe, but they are kind of sucky.[/quote]

    Meh, I’ll just go to the mall. I think Skechers or someone like that sells square-ish sneakers. Never paid more than $70 for a pair of shoes, and if I’m not on a team I’m not plunking down that much.

    Thanks for the info, though.[/quote]

    I remember when I was the manager of the high school football team, one of my jobs was to keep track of the kicker’s shoe and tee and the long snappers pullover. The long snapper was a receiver and he need a 50-70 number to long snap back then. I would run the shoe, tee and pull over out after each touchdown.

  • aflfan | January 3, 2010 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”370031″][quote comment=”370028″][quote comment=”370023″]Jim,

    You can get square-toe kicking shoes, but they are about $150. You can get some stupid velcro strap that hooks onto the front cleat and wraps around your ankle to pull your toe up to kind of emulate a square-toe shoe, but they are kind of sucky.[/quote]

    Meh, I’ll just go to the mall. I think Skechers or someone like that sells square-ish sneakers. Never paid more than $70 for a pair of shoes, and if I’m not on a team I’m not plunking down that much.

    Thanks for the info, though.[/quote]

    I remember when I was the manager of the high school football team, one of my jobs was to keep track of the kicker’s shoe and tee and the long snappers pullover. The long snapper was a receiver and he need a 50-70 number to long snap back then. I would run the shoe, tee and pull over out after each touchdown.[/quote]

    And it was a squared toe shoe.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”370029″]Finally figured it out today.
    Bills mono navy looks they all came right to the game from their jobs at Jiffy Lube.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, linemen have been known to slather on Vaseline so defenders can’t grab on to them…a little grease could do the trick.

  • Graf Zeppelin | January 3, 2010 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”370023″]Jim,

    You can get square-toe kicking shoes, but they are about $150. You can get some stupid velcro strap that hooks onto the front cleat and wraps around your ankle to pull your toe up to kind of emulate a square-toe shoe, but they are kind of sucky.[/quote]

    I had square-toed shoes as a kid, but they were cross-country-ski boots. I never tried using them to kick a football; I kicked soccer-style.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”370012″]Jim O’Brien, SB V.
    http://www.corbisima...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Ricko – this was during a time of almost 100% football cleats, and the square toe blended right in. The soccer guys would wear a whole different color.

    Ricko, do you recall straight-on kickers that tied their shoe-lace around the front cleat?? They looked like the Brownie mascot.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”370036″][quote comment=”370012″]Jim O’Brien, SB V.
    http://www.corbisima...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Ricko – this was during a time of almost 100% football cleats, and the square toe blended right in. The soccer guys would wear a whole different color.

    Ricko, do you recall straight-on kickers that tied their shoe-lace around the front cleat?? They looked like the Brownie mascot.[/quote]

    I meant to say BLACK football cleats.

  • Graf Zeppelin | January 3, 2010 at 8:57 pm |

    Looking at the Bengals’ ridiculous outfits, it occurs to me that when they made the change to this jersey and pants set they kept the helmet exactly the same. When’s the last time a team did that?

    The Bills changed only the center striping pattern and colors; the Cardinals only slightly changed the logo decal. The Falcons changed the logo decal and the Rams changed only the color of the horn decals. The Jaguars changed the helmet shells to the color-reflective metallic paint.

    I can’t think of any other team in the AFL/merger era that completely revamped its uniform from the neck down without making any changes to the helmet.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 8:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”370035″][quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play[/quote]

    Al Michaels did the games in Pittsburgh, while Keith Jackson did the games in Baltimore. Vin Scully did the games on the radio. I have games 5 and 7 on VHS and I taped game 7 off my radio, so I have Stargell’s game-winning home run announced by two of the greatest announcers of all time. And I have Al Michaels, too…

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 9:00 pm |

    Oh brother… in my inbox:

    ORDER YOUR EXCLUSIVE 2009 RAVENS PLAYOFF TEE AVAILABLE ONLY FROM THE BALTIMORE RAVENS TEAM STORE

    Who buys this stuff?

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 9:01 pm |

    “The Cowboys shutout also made for a major milestone in the club’s storied history: First-ever back-to-back blankings. Only twice in the previous 49 seasons had they even had two shutouts the entire season.”

    Amazing. First time ever.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”370039″][quote comment=”370035″][quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play[/quote]

    Al Michaels did the games in Pittsburgh, while Keith Jackson did the games in Baltimore. Vin Scully did the games on the radio. I have games 5 and 7 on VHS and I taped game 7 off my radio, so I have Stargell’s game-winning home run announced by two of the greatest announcers of all time. And I have Al Michaels, too…[/quote]

    I won’t be requesting a copy.

  • Taxman | January 3, 2010 at 9:04 pm |

    Gayle Gardner & Pete Axthelm > Phyllis/Jane & Jimmy the Greek.

    Discuss.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 9:05 pm |

    A little trite seeing it on TV anymore, but photos of the obligatory Gatorade shower are really cool: http://a.espncdn.com...

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”370043″]Gayle Gardner & Pete Axthelm > Phyllis/Jane & Jimmy the Greek.

    Discuss.[/quote]

    The fact that I had no recollection of those names today until you mentioned them means I’d have to disagree. I did like Len Berman, though.

  • A.G. | January 3, 2010 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”370035″][quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play[/quote]
    [quote comment=”370039″][quote comment=”370035″][quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play[/quote]

    Al Michaels did the games in Pittsburgh, while Keith Jackson did the games in Baltimore. Vin Scully did the games on the radio. I have games 5 and 7 on VHS and I taped game 7 off my radio, so I have Stargell’s game-winning home run announced by two of the greatest announcers of all time. And I have Al Michaels, too…[/quote]

    ABC it was. NBC did the NCLS

  • A.G. | January 3, 2010 at 9:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”370043″]Gayle Gardner & Pete Axthelm > Phyllis/Jane & Jimmy the Greek.

    Discuss.[/quote]

    Ax was such a homer….either the Jets or Bills…everybody else he trashed. Glad he’s gone!! HE SUCKED!

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 9:28 pm |

    They couldn’t keep the diamond-pattern endzones for the Poinsettia and Holiday Bowls? http://a.espncdn.com... I hope they bring them back for the playoffs.

    Darren Sproles in a shot straight outta the 70s: http://a.espncdn.com...

    I’d wear that hat…not sure about the apron: http://a.espncdn.com... Wonder how grilled tofu tastes…

    “Um, excuse me, I was wondering if you’ll be doing any hiring soon? I can start as soon as possible.” http://a.espncdn.com...

  • Nick | January 3, 2010 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”369965″]Been scanning a bunch of stuff today, for the Artists section of Illustrated NFL. Came across this awesome Zorn Flashback. Check out those awesome high school shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    THAT IS AN AWESOME JERSEY !!!

    I predict that we wil eventually see those type of stripes, at least at the NCAA level, giventhe disappearance of sleeves from football jerseys.
    Similar to the 1945 Calgary Stampeders, a HS team in Corpus Christi, TX, and the featured team in the “School Ties” movie that started my throwback jersey interest ….

    Always liked Jim Zorn. Too bad about his Redskin drama.

    Here’s a screen grab that I bet no one can find …. Jim Zorn #11 for the Cowboys in preseason 1975! Played great in 2 preseason games for the Cowboys, but got cut as they would only keep two QBs back then. If I am not mistaken, WR Steve Largent was also at that Cowboy training camp and also got cut at the end. The rest is Seahawk History.

  • Nick | January 3, 2010 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”370048″]They couldn’t keep the diamond-pattern endzones for the Poinsettia and Holiday Bowls? http://a.espncdn.com... I hope they bring them back for the playoffs.

    Darren Sproles in a shot straight outta the 70s: http://a.espncdn.com...

    I’d wear that hat…not sure about the apron: http://a.espncdn.com... Wonder how grilled tofu tastes…

    “Um, excuse me, I was wondering if you’ll be doing any hiring soon? I can start as soon as possible.” http://a.espncdn.com...

    Let me look for it …. I think I have that Sproles/Chargers poster from 1971 !!!

  • Johnny O | January 3, 2010 at 9:34 pm |

    This is what the Wisconsin Badgers will be wearing for the Camp Randall Hockey Classic on February 6th:
    http://www.buckysloc...

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 9:39 pm |

    Compare this to what you saw in today’s first video (at the 3:30 mark): http://a.espncdn.com... Give me the Doug Williams-era look. By the way, notice how he just flipped that ball 75 yards almost flat-footed?

  • Kurt Allen | January 3, 2010 at 9:40 pm |

    Larry Johnson’s nameplate is off!!!

  • Kurt Allen | January 3, 2010 at 9:49 pm |

    Found great deal on this Badgers hockey jersey, complete w/laces on collar – $50 at Sports Authority a few weeks back…

  • BW Radley | January 3, 2010 at 9:49 pm |

    These videos lead me to find the following color photo of the Chicago Cardinals at Green Bay in 1935-36.

    http://packerville.b...

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 9:53 pm |

    Well, the old maxim was when hemlines rose, so did the economy. Does that mean we’re in for better times? http://a.espncdn.com...

    I don’t dislike this look as much as others here, but I do admit this game would have looked better at Lambeau: http://a.espncdn.com...

  • Mike | January 3, 2010 at 9:54 pm |

    #66 for the Jets doesn’t have a helmet decal on one side of his helmet. I think it’s the right side.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”370055″]These videos lead me to find the following color photo of the Chicago Cardinals at Green Bay in 1935-36.

    http://packerville.b...

    That’s a great find! The yellow sleeves really help that matchup.

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 9:57 pm |

    well…g-men get roasted (although, did it really matter?) and the jesters are going to the playoffs

    i’ve had better football birthdays, but thanks to everyone who wished me a happy bday

    with apologies to mr stills,

    4 & 40 years ago i come into this life…

  • Mike Engle | January 3, 2010 at 9:58 pm |

    No screen grab, but Alan Faneca paying tribute to his former Steelers, but backwards.
    (His right helmet decal fell off.)

  • JTH | January 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”370033″][quote comment=”370029″]Finally figured it out today.
    Bills mono navy looks they all came right to the game from their jobs at Jiffy Lube.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, linemen have been known to slather on Vaseline so defenders can’t grab on to them…a little grease could do the trick.[/quote]
    You just gonna leave that one lying there, Phil?

    Fine, I’ll do it myself.

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”370062″]You just gonna leave that one lying there, Phil?[/quote]

    it was too easy

    i missed out on the faith and hank can blow paul too

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”370056″]Well, the old maxim was when hemlines rose, so did the economy. Does that mean we’re in for better times? http://a.espncdn.com...

    Well, with college basketball underway, that means the economy’s gonna tank again…

  • Traxel | January 3, 2010 at 10:21 pm |

    Just now get to check the uniblog after an 8 hour drive through a snowstorm….Happy Birthday LI!

  • =bg= | January 3, 2010 at 10:31 pm |

    Boy it looks cold in NYC. I just looked at the box score.

    bengals have nine yards total offense with under 10 to go in the third.

    NINE.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 10:32 pm |

    Cool shots of the prep work after the Cardinals game, getting ready for tomorrow’s Fiesta Bowl:
    http://espn-i.starwa...
    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 10:41 pm |

    Apparently the Jets made up “Win And We’re In!” towels to give away at tonight’s game. At least I hope they were giveaways.

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 10:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”370066″]Boy it looks cold in NYC. I just looked at the box score.

    bengals have nine yards total offense with under 10 to go in the third.

    NINE.[/quote]

    it IS cold brinke

    21 degrees farenheit (at least here on LI)…winds not as bad as last night (50 mph gusts)

    just prepping us for the pond hockey wx i guess

  • BurghFan | January 3, 2010 at 10:53 pm |

    Wasn’t that game announcerless because NBC had their sound equipment was stolen from the stadium the night before the game?

    No. Once they realized that this Saturday afternoon national game (I miss those) was a dog, they decided to go announcerless and promoted the hell out of it.

    While I’m here, happy birthday, Phil.

  • Nick | January 3, 2010 at 11:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”370017″][quote comment=”370012″]Jim O’Brien, SB V.
    http://www.corbisima...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They still make square-toe shoes? I’d love a pair, even though I’m only kicking for…kicks. I’ve never worn anything other than regular turf shoes, and for the times I kick straight-on I just curl up my toes. Very little margin for error. Never had soccer shoes, either, for when I switch styles.[/quote]

    1-2 companies still make them. There is a Placekicking Website with camps and sideline nets and shoes with links to companies that still make squaretoe kicking shoes. There is a particular shoe, with a huge flat fronyt similar to Tom Dempsey’s shoe, only for full footed kickers, that allegedly adds 10-15 yards to your kicks. Some HS kid from Illinois allegedly made an 83 yd FG with the shoe about 8-10 years ago. He ended up kicking off for the Florida Gators, but never won the FG kicker job.

    Once in awhile you can find them on Ebay. I got a pair of Riddell hightops with a square toe shoe, other matching shoe about 3 years ago.

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 11:12 pm |

    man…after making everyone associated with the 72 dolfish extremely happy last week (obviously, the colts are still reeling, going down 30-7 to the bills today)…and now thoroughly dismantling the bungals…

    i guess we can officially say the jets are super bowl bound

  • Traxel | January 3, 2010 at 11:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”370069″][quote comment=”370066″]Boy it looks cold in NYC. I just looked at the box score.

    bengals have nine yards total offense with under 10 to go in the third.

    NINE.[/quote]

    (at least here on LI)
    just prepping us for the pond hockey wx i guess[/quote]
    Ahhhhhh. So that’s what it stands for. Wondered.

    If there is one thing I’m NOT looking forward to January 22-24 it’s the cuold. Can we do a DEEP SOUTH next year?

  • Chuck | January 3, 2010 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”370016″]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    I remember a great intro that was all drums with a scanning of all the team helmets in 1968/69? It fascinated me as a kid.

  • Nick | January 3, 2010 at 11:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”370038″]Looking at the Bengals’ ridiculous outfits, it occurs to me that when they made the change to this jersey and pants set they kept the helmet exactly the same. When’s the last time a team did that?

    The Bills changed only the center striping pattern and colors; the Cardinals only slightly changed the logo decal. The Falcons changed the logo decal and the Rams changed only the color of the horn decals. The Jaguars changed the helmet shells to the color-reflective metallic paint.

    I can’t think of any other team in the AFL/merger era that completely revamped its uniform from the neck down without making any changes to the helmet.[/quote]

    The Saints kept the same helmet through 6-7 jersey types and 4-5 pants types, then finally shrank the fleur de lis a bit and added an outline while keeping the same uni.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”370072″]man…after making everyone associated with the 72 dolfish extremely happy last week (obviously, the colts are still reeling, going down 30-7 to the bills today)…and now thoroughly dismantling the bungals…

    i guess we can officially say the jets are super bowl bound[/quote]
    Don’t forget Phil, Jets ended the Titans perfect season last year too

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”370076″]
    Don’t forget Phil, Jets ended the Titans perfect season last year too[/quote]

    oh, i know it walt

    the best part about tonight? no look at me dance from ocho

    worst part? having to listen to jets fans chirp all week long…and chirp they will

  • LI Phil | January 3, 2010 at 11:30 pm |

    quote of the night from rex: “i don’t believe we backed into anything”

  • M.Princip | January 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”370049″][quote comment=”369965″]Been scanning a bunch of stuff today, for the Artists section of Illustrated NFL. Came across this awesome Zorn Flashback. Check out those awesome high school shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    THAT IS AN AWESOME JERSEY !!!

    I predict that we wil eventually see those type of stripes, at least at the NCAA level, giventhe disappearance of sleeves from football jerseys.
    Similar to the 1945 Calgary Stampeders, a HS team in Corpus Christi, TX, and the featured team in the “School Ties” movie that started my throwback jersey interest ….

    Always liked Jim Zorn. Too bad about his Redskin drama.

    Here’s a screen grab that I bet no one can find …. Jim Zorn #11 for the Cowboys in preseason 1975! Played great in 2 preseason games for the Cowboys, but got cut as they would only keep two QBs back then. If I am not mistaken, WR Steve Largent was also at that Cowboy training camp and also got cut at the end. The rest is Seahawk History.[/quote]

    Looks like he wore #17: http://redskinsblog....

  • Jeff | January 3, 2010 at 11:41 pm |

    “Faith Hill and Hank Jr. can blow me”

    Any chance No Mas can put that on a t-shirt?

    best.
    post.
    EV-AH!

  • Thomas Clark | January 3, 2010 at 11:47 pm |

    Largent was cut by the Oilers in 1976, not the Cowboys in 1975.

  • JimV19 | January 3, 2010 at 11:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”370071″][quote comment=”370017″][quote comment=”370012″]Jim O’Brien, SB V.
    http://www.corbisima...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They still make square-toe shoes? I’d love a pair, even though I’m only kicking for…kicks. I’ve never worn anything other than regular turf shoes, and for the times I kick straight-on I just curl up my toes. Very little margin for error. Never had soccer shoes, either, for when I switch styles.[/quote]

    1-2 companies still make them. There is a Placekicking Website with camps and sideline nets and shoes with links to companies that still make squaretoe kicking shoes. There is a particular shoe, with a huge flat fronyt similar to Tom Dempsey’s shoe, only for full footed kickers, that allegedly adds 10-15 yards to your kicks. Some HS kid from Illinois allegedly made an 83 yd FG with the shoe about 8-10 years ago. He ended up kicking off for the Florida Gators, but never won the FG kicker job.

    Once in awhile you can find them on Ebay. I got a pair of Riddell hightops with a square toe shoe, other matching shoe about 3 years ago.[/quote]

    When I was a kid, I told the local shoe salesman I wanted a shoe like Tom Dempsey’s. He politely explained why that wasn’t possible. That would be cool having the shoe you mentioned.

    Of course, I could also use something to bring back what little flexibility I once had…

  • Thomas Clark | January 3, 2010 at 11:48 pm |

    Sorry, was traded after the preseason. All that cut talk got me all mixed up.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 3, 2010 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”370077″][quote comment=”370076″]
    Don’t forget Phil, Jets ended the Titans perfect season last year too[/quote]

    oh, i know it walt

    the best part about tonight? no look at me dance from ocho

    worst part? having to listen to jets fans chirp all week long…and chirp they will[/quote]
    I’ll be walking around in my Jets cap smirking at Jaguar fans for at least a week…lol
    Man, they’re going to have a hell of a time selling seats for Gag games next year

  • Greenie | January 4, 2010 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”370056″]Well, the old maxim was when hemlines rose, so did the economy. Does that mean we’re in for better times? http://a.espncdn.com...

    I don’t dislike this look as much as others here, but I do admit this game would have looked better at Lambeau: http://a.espncdn.com...

    Too bad you’ll get the same matchup next week. Maybe the Cards will at least wear some white pants instead of the blood clot reds.

    -Greenie

  • Teebz | January 4, 2010 at 12:59 am |

    Happy birthday Phil!

    And I’m off to bed after a long, cold day of hockey.

  • JTH | January 4, 2010 at 1:04 am |

    [quote comment=”370025″][quote comment=”370022″]Joan Jett should be getting paid for letting Faith Hill and MNF completely rape that song, “Hate Myself for Loving you”.[/quote]

    Only if she wrote it.[/quote]
    She did, or at least co-wrote it. (I missed this one earlier).

    What I didn’t realize is that the SNF song is a reworking. I always just thought it was just amazingly similar-sounding (a “ripoff” in the common vernacular).

  • Paul Lukas | January 4, 2010 at 1:16 am |

    [quote comment=”370038″]Looking at the Bengals’ ridiculous outfits, it occurs to me that when they made the change to this jersey and pants set they kept the helmet exactly the same. When’s the last time a team did that?

    The Bills changed only the center striping pattern and colors; the Cardinals only slightly changed the logo decal. The Falcons changed the logo decal and the Rams changed only the color of the horn decals. The Jaguars changed the helmet shells to the color-reflective metallic paint.

    I can’t think of any other team in the AFL/merger era that completely revamped its uniform from the neck down without making any changes to the helmet.[/quote]

    Off the top of my head:

    – Steelers kept their helmet when changing their jersey in ’97.

    – Colts kept their helmet when they went to the gray pants in the ’80s.

    – Lions kept their helmet when they went to the blue pants and gray socks on the road in ’97.

  • Giancarlo | January 4, 2010 at 2:46 am |

    [quote comment=”370088″][quote comment=”370038″]Looking at the Bengals’ ridiculous outfits, it occurs to me that when they made the change to this jersey and pants set they kept the helmet exactly the same. When’s the last time a team did that?

    The Bills changed only the center striping pattern and colors; the Cardinals only slightly changed the logo decal. The Falcons changed the logo decal and the Rams changed only the color of the horn decals. The Jaguars changed the helmet shells to the color-reflective metallic paint.

    I can’t think of any other team in the AFL/merger era that completely revamped its uniform from the neck down without making any changes to the helmet.[/quote]

    Off the top of my head:

    – Steelers kept their helmet when changing their jersey in ’97.

    – Colts kept their helmet when they went to the gray pants in the ’80s.

    – Lions kept their helmet when they went to the blue pants and gray socks on the road in ’97.[/quote]

    More obvious than those: Eagles from ’84 to ’85; Redskins from ’78 to ’79

  • Geeman | January 4, 2010 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”370046″][quote comment=”370035″][quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play[/quote]
    [quote comment=”370039″][quote comment=”370035″][quote comment=\”370019\”][quote comment=\”370016\”]The NBC music is AWESOME! I used to watch the games almost just to hear that music. They used it on college hoops games too. I still have an audio cassette tape with that theme song on it from 1976.[/quote]

    Just a notch below that music was the music NBC used in the 1979 World Series, if anyone can find that. I think it\’s on my \”mix\” tape of sports themes.[/quote]

    1979 World Series was definitely on ABC – Howard Cosell nicknamed Doug Decinces \”Doogie\”, and Omar Moreno\’s wife was the obnoxious go-to face in the stands. Not sure who had the play by play[/quote]

    Al Michaels did the games in Pittsburgh, while Keith Jackson did the games in Baltimore. Vin Scully did the games on the radio. I have games 5 and 7 on VHS and I taped game 7 off my radio, so I have Stargell’s game-winning home run announced by two of the greatest announcers of all time. And I have Al Michaels, too…[/quote]

    ABC it was. NBC did the NCLS[/quote]

    You guys are right. Memory failed me. I do remember NBC doing the NLCS, though. What solidified it in my mind was that the game ended in Pittsburgh, and that was the backdrop as the NBC theme music at the end rolled. The World Series ended in Baltimore.

  • DW | January 4, 2010 at 8:54 am |

    http://www.zabka.com...

    If you really want to go old-school NBC AFL.
    It’s the famed NBC “Chimes” march … heard recently on HBO’s history of the American Football League … written by a former assoc. director for Carson’s Tonight Show – you can hear a sample by hitting the website above.

  • Graf Zeppelin | January 4, 2010 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”370089″][quote comment=”370088″][quote comment=”370038″]Looking at the Bengals’ ridiculous outfits, it occurs to me that when they made the change to this jersey and pants set they kept the helmet exactly the same. When’s the last time a team did that?

    The Bills changed only the center striping pattern and colors; the Cardinals only slightly changed the logo decal. The Falcons changed the logo decal and the Rams changed only the color of the horn decals. The Jaguars changed the helmet shells to the color-reflective metallic paint.

    I can’t think of any other team in the AFL/merger era that completely revamped its uniform from the neck down without making any changes to the helmet.[/quote]

    Off the top of my head:

    – Steelers kept their helmet when changing their jersey in ’97.

    – Colts kept their helmet when they went to the gray pants in the ’80s.

    – Lions kept their helmet when they went to the blue pants and gray socks on the road in ’97.[/quote]

    More obvious than those: Eagles from ’84 to ’85; Redskins from ’78 to ’79[/quote]

    All good examples, although I was thinking more along the lines of a total revamp like the Bengals, rather than tweaks like the Steelers (numeral font), Lions (pants color), Colts (ditto) and Saints (various minor tweaks). The Eagles and Redskins examples are better, particularly the latter.

  • Bob Melonosky | January 5, 2010 at 1:02 pm |

    I have this memory of Jayne Kennedy that is so strange that I would like to know if anybody else remembers it.

    One Sunday when I was real young, Dan Pastorini, quarterback of the Houston Oilers, was about to use the first flak jacket to protect his broken ribs.

    NFL Today got Jayne Kennedy to wear the flak jacket and a blue floral bikini and nothing else. She looked amazing. Then some guy (the inventor, maybe) hit Jayne with a baseball bat to prove that the thing worked.

    Anybody else remember this crazy event?