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Bucks vs. Ducks – A Rematch 52 Years In The Making

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By Phil Hecken, with Larry Bodnovich and Michael Princip

Happy New Year, Uni Watch!

The first of January always is a great day for sports fans and uni watchers alike, as we are treated to a plethora of sporting events, including several Bowl games. Two big events of uni-note occur today: the Third Annual Winter Classic (more on that below), which is followed by The Grand-daddy of Them All, the Rose Bowl.

The Rose Bowl got it’s nickname, “The Granddaddy of Them All,” because it is the oldest bowl game — first played in 1902, and continuously since 1916. Since 1945, it has been the highest attended college football bowl game. And unlike some of the other big bowls, it is ALWAYS played on New Year’s Day, and has become as much of a tradition as almost anything in sport. For many folks waking up groggily on the first of the year, the Rose Bowl Parade is a part of starting the new annum — and usually lasts about as long as some resolutions.

Today, I’m joined by two of UW’s long time readers, and quite possibly the biggest fans of the two universities involved in today’s matchup, Michael Princip, who will be rooting for the Oregon Ducks, and Larry Bodnovich, who will be pulling for the Ohio State University Buckeyes. They’ll be giving us a look at this event from their uniquely talented perspectives.

The Buckeyes, tradition-bound and proud, recently “bucked” tradition (pun firmly intended) by allowing Nike to outfit them in “pro combat” uniforms for their traditional rivalry game with Michigan. Will they wear those uniforms again for the Rose Bowl?

The Ducks, on the other hand, are anything but traditional when it comes to their uniform machinations. All year long Mike has been keeping tabs on the myriad uniform choices being worn by the Oregon squad through his wonderful “Ducktracker”. And, if you didn’t see the wonderful interview with Casey Martin by UWer Kenny Ocker, you’ll understand how figuring out what the Ducks will be wearing is as much as a challenge as it is for opposing teams to scheme their defenses.

These two teams have a history in this game as well. They played once before, in 1958, and though both have won the game and both have played in the Rose Bowl since 1958, this is their first meeting since that time — a rematch that has been fifty-two years in the making.

Today’s matchup will feature what other blogs are calling “Tradition versus Innovation”, proving that we here on Uni Watch aren’t the only ones fascinated by this rematch. So then, let’s take a look at the Ducks, the Bucks, the Rose Bowl, and the past and present of what to expect today.

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We’ll begin today with Michael, who is going to take us back to the 1957 season, where Oregon played it’s season en route to the 1958 Rose Bowl meeting with Ohio State:

When the Ducks, or Webfoots, started the 1957 season, Oregon was ranked seventh of the nine schools in the PCC (Pacific Coast Conference). However, to everyone’s surprise, the team rallied to finish the season by becoming co-champions for the first time since 1948, and won the vote of PCC faculty representatives as the most eligible candidate for the 1958 Rose Bowl. The team was coached by Len Casanova, a coach that held no delusions for his 1957 team. From a team that had won four, lost four and tied two in 1956, Oregon lost seven starters to begin that 1957 season, leaving the Webfoots with a patched-up team. Thus, development of the reserves had much to do with Oregon’s success. Oregon had never before possessed the manpower to attempt unit substitutions, although Coach Casanova put it through effective use.

Oregon had one bad loss in 1957, a 6-13 loss to Washington, a team Ohio State took care of handedly with a 35-7 victory earlier that season. The only other loss was 10-7 to Oregon State. Despite this fact, 1957 was an otherwise extraordinary season capped off by Oregon’s triumph over Stanford in a 27-26 win, establishing the Webfoots as Rose Bowl possibilities. If there is a character trait shared between the 1957 Ducks team and this 2009 team, it’s their ablilty to win the close ones. Yet, one would be hard pressed to find many comparisons between both offenses. Where the 1957 team lagged in the vertical passing game, the 2009 version Ducks excel in it, armed with a dynamic and quick scoring offense. Notwithstanding, the running game for the ’57 Ducks was in fact the most potent in the school’s history at the time. Led by Jim “The Shadow” Shanley, this halfback had the most career rushing yardage of any in Oregon history. Also should be noted, Jack Crabtree, the Ducks starting quarterback, was named Rose Bowl MVP, one of only two players from a losing Rose Bowl team to win the award. Jack played a heroic game, seeing that his Ducks were outmatched, yet, almost pulling off the upset. That being said, they did only manage to score 7 points. So, it could be stated, the defense had quite a good game as well, holding Ohio State to only 10. That defense was led by defensive lineman Tom Keele. The 1958 Oregana called Keele the “Webfoot brilliance on the defense”.

Going into the game, the Ducks were definitely considered the underdogs. In fact, if they had won, it would have been the second PCC team win since the Big10-PCC pact was established in 1947. USC had won the Rose Bowl in 1953 beating Wisconsin 7-0.

In the 1958 Rose Bowl, the Oregon Ducks had a feature within their jerseys that could be considered distinctly west coast in it’s inception. The Ducks were outfitted in their away white Nylon-durene jerseys that featured a UCLA shoulder loop, a feature that was popularized by Red Sanders’ West Coast teams in the early 50s (#19 Bruin @ left) . For the Ducks, a thin green stripe that bordered a thicker solid middle yellow stripe on each side. The shoulder loop was a very noticeable feature on the jersey that helped Coach Sanders decipher his Bruins on the grainy black and white game films of the time. This look was eventually adopted by some professional football teams in the NFL/AFL; i.e. Vikings, Colts, Chargers(w/center bolt), Patriots, 49ers, NY Titans, and Rams.

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Larry, not to be outdone, has his own wonderful look at Ohio State. Mr. Bodnovich has some amazing and unique talents, which we’ll be looking at here.

The 1957 Ohio State Buckeyes finished up an impressive season at 9-1, and finished up the ‘regular’ season as the number one ranked team in the nation. Larry has an entire album of historical pictures (both in color and black and white) from that magical season for the Bucks. Here is a great picture of tOSU versus Iowa, and another wonderful shot of Ohio State versus Wisconsin (Larry points out that this picture is from 1958, but were identical uniforms to what they wore in 1957). Their standing as the number one team in the nation in the 1957 earned them a date with Oregon in the 1958 Rose Bowl.

With the stage thus set, the Ducks and Bucks met in the 1958 Rose Bowl. You could spend an hour looking through that album, but Larry thought there are some really good, close action shots from that game.

Here is a quick rundown of the 1958 Rose Bowl for the Bucks: They emerged victorious, 10-7 over Oregon, with an attendance of 98,202. Ohio State (9-1, lost its first game to TCU: 14-18) came into the game ranked # 1 (UPI) and heavily favored over the Ducks of Oregon (7-3) ranked #17 (UPI). The Bucks who were averaging 29 pts per game drove 79 yards for a TD on its first possession and later the Ducks drove 80 yards in 10 plays for their own touchdown that would end the scoring until early fourth quarter, when Don Sutherin kicked a 34 yard field goal for the 3 point margin of victory. Oregon had missed a 34 yard FG in the third quarter.

Ohio State ended up #1 in UPI (Coaches) and Auburn (10-0) #2, Auburn won the AP at #1 and Ohio State #2. Oregon ended up #17 UPI but not ranked in the AP.

Back then, there weren’t as many Bowls, and they carried a much greater import. In a strange twist, Auburn didn’t even get a bowl invite — Ole Miss went to the Sugar and Tennessee went to the Gator Bowl.

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To further expound upon the eye-candy that are found in Larry’s albums, he some explanations of Ohio State’s uniforms for those 1957-58 games:

Ohio State wore the short sleeves most of year in home games. But long sleeves with traditional gray sleeve stripes in cold weather such as the Purdue game. Buckeyes wore the white shoulder stripes in away games such as Michigan game.

4 players from the 1957 Buckeyes were All Americans at some time. The 1957 Buckeyes had some famous names such as Jim Houston, who played on the Browns. Dick LeBeau became an NFL player and Steelers defensive coordinator. Galen Cisco pitched in the Major Leagues and became a pitching coach. Jim Marshall would become a future Vikings NFL star. Dick Schafrath also played on the Cleveland Browns.

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You might think that the Buckeyes and Ducks wouldn’t have much history between them since the 1958 Rose Bowl, and you’d be right, but the teams have actually met several times in the past.

This upcoming game will be the 8th meeting between the Bucks and Ducks and only the second time that Oregon was ranked either at game time or end of season. This will be the sixth time that the Ducks will face a top 10 ranked Buckeye squad at game time.

Following the Rose Bowl, the two squads faced off another seven times, most recently in 1987 — unfortunately for the boys from the Beaver State, the results haven’t been good. In fact, the Ducks have never beaten the Bucks. For those keeping score at home, here’s the breakdown (click the year for a pic from that game):

Record: Ohio St. 7-0
In Ohio: 5-0
In Oregon: 1-0
Neutral Site: 1-0 @ Rose Bowl

1957: 10-7
1961: 22-12
1962: 26-7
1967: 30-0
1968: 21-6
1983: 31-6
1987: 24-14
Average score: 21-7

So you can see, there’s more than a Rose Bowl Championship at stake today, there’s quite a bit of pride for the Ducks. Maybe the final scores haven’t always been pretty, but the games usually have been gorgeous. And of course, Larry has an album to document every Ohio State/Oregon game ever played.

After the 1957-58 Rose Bowl, Oregon wanted Ohio State to play in dedication game for Autzen Stadium. It took a while but in 1967 the Buckeyes finally made the trip to Oregon.

Larry noted the yellow chalk lines for the Ohio State-Oregon Rose Bowl and wondered why they they were so colored. At Hayward Field, Oregon used yellow chalk to mark the yard lines — and so, that year, the Rose Bowl had yellow-colored yard lines, not white, for the first time ever.

Larry also notes that in the days leading up to the Rose Bowl, the Oregon officials struck up a friendship with the Ohio State officials, and (Oregon’s) Harris coaxed a promise from the Buckeyes to play the “Dedication Game” in Oregon’s new football facility. Harris thought it would be four or five years down the road, but it wasn’t until 1967 that Oregon opened Autzen Stadium, and true to their word, the Buckeyes came for the Dedication Game, winning 30-0 that Oct. 7.

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That’ll wrap up Larry’s portion of this Rose Bowl piece. Tremendous work there, Larry. And now, we’ll return to Michael, who’s been playing the role of “investigating reporter,” and believes he has the scoop on what the Ducks will be wearing this afternoon:

Mike is pretty certain the Ducks will be sporting (mostly) school colors, and believes they’ll go with a white-green-white combination. If the Buckeyes stick with their traditional silver-white-silver/gray road uniforms, this should be a very appealing uniform match up.

As always, Mike’s finest work, like Larry’s, is found in their unique abilities to bring their favorite team to live graphically — Larry with his albums and his colorizations, and Mike with his Ducktracker. But, for the past few weekends, I’ve been featuring a project Mr. Princip has been working on since the Ducks booked their ticket to Pasadena — the Ducks Rose Bowl History. Every day he’s been adding something new, and if you’ve been following along with my Sunday “Countdown to the Rose” segments, you’ll be amazed at how much more history he’s added. If you haven’t, please do yourself a favor and click on that link — and be prepared to spend an hour checking out all the wonderful pictures and factoids (and rare video) detailing each of Oregon’s past Rose Bowl appearances.

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My huge thanks to Larry and Michael for all their work and dedication. Today’s Rose Bowl may or may not be an epic game, but it’s a rematch that’s been in the making for 52 years. Hope everyone gets an opportunity to check it out!

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wc2010logoWhew…OK — today’s Granddaddy is certainly a uniform and sporting highlight, but that’s the main course. There’s another game, and another sport, taking place up in Boston. You may have heard aboot it — that’s right, the Third Annual Winter Classic is being played several hours before the Rose Bowl, and that, dear readers, is today’s appetizer.

I’ve asked Hockey Wing President Teebz to give us the rundown on the event this year. You will recall that last year, the two of us combined on a preview of the Wrigley Field Winter Classic. I decided to “cover” the Rose Bowl this year, but I couldn’t forget about the NHL’s entree into New Year’s Day. So, to get you in the mood for some late-afternoon football, here’s a taste of early afternoon puck…and here’s Teebz:

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With all the NCAA Bowl games being played today, you may not realize that there is a hockey game being played today.

Ok, who am I kidding? As you all are aware, the 2010 Bridgestone Winter Classic is being held in historic Fenway Park today, and will feature the Philadelphia Flyers against the Boston Bruins. Fenway Park follows in the footsteps of Wrigley Field last year as the host of the NHL’s New Year’s Day tradition, and the stadium appears to be setup with all the accoutrements. The scoreboard will feature the two teams just as Red Sox fans are accustomed to, the signage has been changed, and the retired numbers of the Bruins have even been added to right field.

The Bruins will be wearing classic yellow-and-brown jerseys on the ice, and should look great against the backdrop of Fenway. While the jerseys themselves aren’t a throwback to one particular era, the mish-mash of different elements from the Bruins’ history brings together the vast amount of memories that this team has been a part of. And today is no exception as the city of Boston hosts the Winter Classic. Like the Blackhawks last year, the host team sets the example for what the Winter Classic should look like.

The Flyers will be wearing a throwback to the 1970s, complete with black nameplate on the reverse. These jerseys look good, but they will be the runners-up in the best-dressed team event at this pageant. I do believe, though, that the white jerseys with orange shoulder-to-wrist stripe are the way the Flyers should dress all the time, so I’m a fan of the front of the jersey. I just don’t like the black nameplate when they had other options from which to choose.

If you’re in Boston and near Fenway, you can stop by the souvenir shop and get your favorite winter classic gear. And jerseys? Oh, they have jerseys. Lots and lots of jerseys.

Enjoy the NCAA Bowl games today, even if you don’t remember who won the Capital One Bowl three years from now. Chances are, though, that you’ll remember who won the 2010 NHL Winter Classic if you tune in!

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Thanks Teebz! Everyone be sure to check it out, even if you have no bearing on the Nielsen ratings for the game. The Winter Classic is a fantastic “event,” and one that I hope will remain a viable New Year’s Day option for years to come. They may be running out of old baseball stadia in which to hold these games, but that doesn’t mean it can’t continue to be a great early day kick-off before the big Bowl games later on. I’ll have more on this Winter Classic down the road.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: Ah, a new year, a new scoreboard. With all the college football games on the agenda today, what better than to start the new year off with a game from Pasadena. Oops…too much of a hint? Well, maybe some of your brain cells aren’t working so well just yet. Ready? Guess The Game From The Scoreboard. Please link to you answer. And, as always, if you enjoy the game, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!

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benchies headerI love it when Ricko provides us with a “themed” Benchies. Especially when it involves the events from the past night. Here’s Rick:

An old, old Benchies, from when it was just taking shape. The issue? Getting it together for the annual New Year’s Day early morning touch football game. Tough sometimes. Very, very tough.

Have a great New Year’s Day Benchies!

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nfl uni tweaksAs we enter the final week of the season, we begin with another set of NFL uniform tweaks/revisions/concepts.

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First up today is Michael Emody, who’s been following a recent trend of tweaking the New York J-E-T-S…Jets Jets Jets. Here’s Michael:

Dear LI Phil,

I was looking at some of the NFL “improvement” ideas last weekend, and started thinking that if the Jets are the Titans for almost half their games each year, why not combine the two?

See ya,
Michael Emody

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Next up is Abraham Khorsani, who has written an essay of the uniform tweaks he has for the Bengals, Giants, Jaguars, Redskins, Seahawks, Bills and Vikings:

Been following Uni Watch for a while, and particularly interested in the NFL uni tweaks. I like screwing around with Photoshop and creating logos/uniforms for video games, so this was kinda up my alley. Been working on these for a while, finally sending them in. All templates and logos were found on Chris Creamer’s site.

First one I tackled was the Jaguars. The Jags went from a great design to what they have now, which is mediocre at best. Ideally, they should just go back and forget this year ever happened, but since that would never happen, I thought I’d take a stab at this. There’s one big thing that jumps out at you with their current set — well, to be more specific, NOTHING jumps out at you. They’re so BORING! There’s no logos on there anywhere, and gold is nowhere to be found. Their unis couldn’t be more generic. So I thought I’d make a simple tweak — add some gold to the outline of the numbers. I think this looks best on the home (teal) uniforms. The road uniforms still look too black, but that’s how they were on the old set too. I also added a black alternate, since that got lost in their uniform transition. To help identify it as a Jags jersey, I added what I thought was a cool “shield-like” Jags logo patch on the sleeves. Thought it would look good with the otherwise blank design.

Next up is Washington. I thought of this when someone was talking in the comments section about the Redskins changing their name. The name “Warriors” was suggested, and it sounded good because they could alter their identity as little as possible. These uniforms were based on some old Skins unis — specifically, the one used as a throwback in their 75th anniversary year. I darkened up the burgundy color and changed the stripe pattern on the sleeves. Also changed the yellow to gold, as with the old uniforms. Replaced the Redskins logo with the old “spear” logo. These could be used for the Skins and could be kept if they decided to change their names.

After that, I decided to challenge myself with a particularly ugly set – the Seahawks. Their current set is just unbearably dreary with all the blue (two shades!). Not to mention the neon snot green! I was inspired by the original helmet concepts when they changed the uni designs a few years ago. The fans voted between blue and silver-ish helmets. So I made the helmet a bluish-silver, and copied that over to the pants, which breaks up the monotony. Next up was, obviously, changing the shade of green. I thought a more traditional green, similar to what they used to use, could be utilized more prominently. Added that to the primary logo, as well as an outline around the number. Then came the matter of neatening up the two shades of blue. I kept both shades, but didn’t mix them so haphazardly. I left the darker blue for the logo (and the collar), and made the uniform the lighter blue all around. Finally, I thought it necessary to bring back the best part of the old uni — the wraparound logo on the sleeves. On the away uniforms, I left the (lighter) blue sleeves, because I thought they were distinctive. Also created a bluish-silver alternate, though looking at it now I could take it or leave it.

My Giants tweak was simple – add red stripes from the away unis onto the home set. I added a bit of a white outline to the stripes to add some contrast.

Next, I came up with a concept for if/when the Bills move to Toronto. Got rid of the godawful panels and the 18 different colors and tried to neaten up while keeping it “modern.” As they would be Canada’s first NFL team, I made red the dominant color of the set and ditched pretty much all the other colors — specifically the royal blue in the accents and logo. I went with a kind of Texans-style look, with the thin single shoulder stripe, but kept it running down the sides (I know how much you guys LOVE side panels) and made the side panels match the pants stripes. On the road uniform, I thought it would be too boring if I made it all white, so I left the sleeves red.

I like the Vikings’ new uniforms — specifically the shape of the shoulder stripe as a horn. I love when teams use logo elements creatively like that (the Rams’ horns on the sleeves, the Eagles’ wings on the helmet, etc.). But I think the wraparound piping and side panel took away from that, so I removed it. I think the shoulder horns get the point across much better by themselves, and the uniform just generally looks cleaner. Another thing I like about their uniforms is the white panel with the logo on the pants (keeping the white side panels of the jersey continuous). Having removed the side panels, the current pants design was kind of obsolete, so I tried to make it a bit more traditional while still paying “homage,” so to speak, to the white panels on the current pants. The “truncated” stripe probably wouldn’t be too much of a hit with the traditionalist crowd around here, but I think is a fair compromise between traditional and modern.

Finally, a Bengals concept. I’m not a huge fan of it (needs more work), but it’s a general idea. I don’t mind the current set, to be honest (flame away). But since they’re so unpopular, I took a stab. Frankly, I think the tiger stripe design is perfect for their uniform, so I tried to implement it in a more “subdued” manner. I think the “stripes within a stripe” is a good start, although it makes the uniforms a bit boring in my opinion.

Sorry this turned into an essay – if only I put this much effort into school…

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Moving along, we have another essay, from John Allen, who has some ideas for the Ravens:

Phil —

I’ll start by saying there is only so much you can do with purple. But given the Ravens have about 70,000 purple seats in “Ravens/PSINet/M&T Bank/Future Bankrupt Company to be Named Later Stadium”, I’m guessing it’s not going anywhere. That said, the Ravens’ uni’s seem to be lacking in any kind of concept or character. Just kind of blah and randomly thrown together…not to mention a bit sore on the eyes. So I say nevermore.

First, I replaced gold with silver. To me, it works better with the main purple and black colors. Somehow gold just doesn’t seem to fit…and there is something about the combination of purple, black and gold that is particularly arena league-ish.

Next, I moved the Ravens/State of MD Seal/Police patch from the jersey to the pant stripe. While I admire the shout out to both the police and the city/state (which is particularly important given the incident in the middle of the night with the moving truck that rhymes with dayshower, along with the recently remedied lack of city or state mention on the O’s uni’s), it just doesn’t work on the home jerseys. I’m more of a stripes fan anyway, and the existing “B” on the pants is logo overkill…how many different logo’s do you really need on one uni set? So exit the B and enter the seal on the pants.

In place of the seal on the sleeve, I moved the TV numbers down and then added a shoulder stripe. With the disappearing sleeve act sweeping the NFL, the shoulder seemed to be the better location for a stripe…and the shape unintentionally resembles the tapered helmet logo that I’m guessing is meant to reflect a Raven talon. The shoulder stripe has a white accent on the home and black alt jersey, and a grey accent on the road whites. The pant stripes have the same color pattern as the shoulder stripes on each jersey for a little consistency. You’ll notice the pants are all white aside from the stripes. I vote a strong Ney on the existing black pants…combined with white socks, they belong in a Jane Fonda workout video more than on a football uniform. Can anyone say leg warmers?

Finally, I added striped on the socks with black from the bottom of the stripe to foot…not sure if the NFL has a rule about white socks, but all black seemed to be a better look for a nasty purple and black kind of team.

Working within my grade-school like skills in MS Paint (it was either that or paper mache), here’s the final product.

— John Allen

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Our final revision today comes from Adam Walter, the man who so generously assists with our poll tabulations, and who has a short statement on his Bengal tweaks:

Phil,

Hope you have had a great holiday.

Being jewish on Christmas in the midwest + bored out of my mind = Bengals redesign.

Hope you enjoy and have great continued holidays.

Adam

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That’s all for today, folks. Sorry for some of the submitters’ verbosity, but sometimes the ideas behind the graphics are as important as the graphics themselves. Keep ’em coming, because we have a few more weeks left in the NFL season. If you’d like to “tweak” other sports, we can move on to that too, as I’ve already received a few hockey redesigns and one or two for hoops as well. We’ll get to those next. Send all submissions my way. Thanks.

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Well, Uni Watchers, that will do it for the first post of the year. I want to again give thanks to Michael Princip and Larry Bodnovich for their fantastic work on the Rose Bowl, both past and present, and to Teebz for the Winter Classic write up. For those of you just waking up, the Winter Classic begins at 1:00 PM Eastern Time on NBC, and the Rose Bowl kicks off at 5:00 PM Eastern on ABC.

Have a wonderful 2010 everyone. Let’s all make it the best year of our lives.

 

238 comments to Bucks vs. Ducks – A Rematch 52 Years In The Making

  • Dave Zalatoris | January 1, 2010 at 7:12 am |

    The game has been played on other dates besides the 1st, most recently 2006.

  • not Osama | January 1, 2010 at 7:36 am |

    Ricko,
    Yesterday you referenced a uni / helmet dilema of mine when you mentioned the Joe Washington / Colts game on MNF. In that game, as you already probably know, Joe went through several jerseys. Not uncommon but what was uncommon was that he also changed helmets.
    Joe was known for wearing a ‘clearshell’ Kelley (formerly MacGregor) brand helmet with a Riddell, two bar facemask. He wore one in college at Oklahoma, one with the Chargers (briefly), the Colts, the Redskins and the Falcons (again very briefly. In the aforementioned game (around the fourth quarter I think), Joe switches to a Riddell brand helmet with a different facemask (a Schutt OPO model). (To helmet geeks like me it is clear that it is NOT the same helmet due to the type of padding system clearly visible, also the sheen of clearshell helmets is quite apparent)
    The Kelley (MacGregor) helmets were notorious for cracking, shattering, etc. so I assume that some sort of damaged occurred and he was forced to switch or an injury occurred and Joe wanted more protection and a different style facemask but why not put it on his Kelley helmet ?
    There are a few more strange things that don’t measure up. One is that they switched the numbers on the back of his old helmet (Kelley) to his new helmet (Riddell) which points to the idea that it was HIS back up helmet. (Would a 1970’s equipment manager really take the time late in a rain soaked game to put numbers on a borrowed helmet?) Also, if they did have a back up helmet why wouldn’t it be a Kelley as this was his preference and also why a different style facemask?

  • Terry Proctor | January 1, 2010 at 8:37 am |

    Hey Phil,

    To those of us who are Cleveland Browns fans Dick Schafrath did more than “played for the Browns.” Schaf succeeded the great Lou Groza at left offensive tackle for the Browns. All he did was clear the way for three of the best running backs EVER, No. 32 Jimmy Brown, No. 49 Bobby Mitchell and No. 44 Leroy Kelly, all HOFers. Between Groza and Schafrath they led Clevland runners for 25 seasons. Schaf should be in the Hall himself.

  • alaboy44 | January 1, 2010 at 8:44 am |

    OU hasn’t broken out the ‘carbon-fiber’ silver helmets yet… maybe at the RB?

  • Nick | January 1, 2010 at 8:44 am |

    Earlier this week the Halifax Mooseheads and Cape Breton Screaming Eagles of the QMJHL played a home-and-home series dubbed the Battle of Nova Scotia. Both teams featured Nova Scotia flag-themed uniforms with blue and white, St. Andrews crosses, and the Scottish lion. Looked pretty sharp.
    http://www.capebreto...

  • Komet17 | January 1, 2010 at 9:11 am |

    Third paragraph:

    The Rose Bowl got it’s nickname…

    “it’s” should be “its”.

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 9:29 am |

    Man-o-Manischewitz:
    Too much! Listening to the Twilight Zone marathon over my shoulder as I inhale today’s edition. Fuckin’ A, even the first comments grabbed my attention.
    LI, Michael, Larry, Teebz; I would be damning you with faint praise to call today’s stuff good. I’m afraid to open the Duck history book as I have to go out soon and don’t have the hour recommended for perusal. Save for later.

    Speaking of the winter classic, i came across this:
    http://www.thegoalie...

    And for not osama:
    Your inquiry reminded me of when Joe Washington played for the skins and wore the “tucked feather” helmet. Click and scroll down a bit:
    http://www.helmethut...

    Delightful! Delightful!

  • WarDamnEagle | January 1, 2010 at 9:29 am |

    Thanks Phil for the shoutout to the 1957 Auburn Tigers! Unbeaten, untied, national champs. Fortunately there was no BCS around at the time to screw them (Cough, 2004, cough).

    I hope Auburn gets 2KX started right with a win over Northwestern . . . this morning.

  • BuckeyeMark | January 1, 2010 at 9:42 am |

    marvelous work by our two Rose Bowl historians … great way to start the year. let’s hope the Bucks keep that winning streak going today! Go Buckeyes! Beat Oregon!

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 10:04 am |

    For those whose “always” and “forever” don’t go back very far, watch THE JUNCTION CITY BOYS sometime (it’s about Bear Bryant’s first year at Texas A&M), and compare it to the developments at Texas Tech this week.
    http://www.imdb.com/...

    I also think of as recently as 1984 (the Vikings’ abyssmal 3-13 season under martinet Les Steckel) and LB Scott Studwell at the team’s practice facilty. Carrying his helmet by the facemask, he deliberately walked to within earshot of the media line and bitched, to no one in particular, “Can’t we get some fucking WATER out here?” Then, in one move, slammed his helmet down onto his head so hard you could almost hear the cartilage in his ears crunch…and walked away.

    Things change.

    —Ricko

  • MEMAL | January 1, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    Big shout out to Abraham for the sweet tweaks. It’s good work like this has opened my heart to these tweaks, because you’re not reinventing the wheel and you seem to really have a feel for what the intent of the uni designers wanted and staying true to that, but you still managed to get rid of some stuff that I hated…well, except for the off color panels on the Seahawk roads(seriously, what’s it there for? The logo stands out fine against white!) My favorite things you did: 1. Brought back my favorite Redskins uni concept. Don’t know if the red needs to be darker, but looks good either way. 2. Got rid of the side panels on the Viking’s jersey and the rediculous stripe. I was hoping you’d go back to their old numbers too, but oh well. 3. I was most impressed with the Bills tweak. You keep their side panel stripe and you actually matched it with the pants stripe(someone was sleeping on the job when that actually made it onto the field). Everyone always wants to drop that, but I think when it’s done well like your tweak it looks good and makes for a nice uniform characteristic. 4. I like the stripes on the Giants home too. I think their fans are crazy for spending a lot of money for a Giants jersey that is essential a blue shirt with white numbers on it and nothing else defining about it.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 10:22 am |

    How ’bout a couple SPORT magazine photos of the 1957 Rose Bowl from that scrap heap I call a “morgue”?
    http://farm5.static....
    and Don Clark, first guy besides Lenny Moore that I remembering seeing with white tape on his shoes…
    http://farm3.static....

    (My little contribution to today’s lead item)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”369545″]Big shout out to Abraham for the sweet tweaks. It’s good work like this has opened my heart to these tweaks, because you’re not reinventing the wheel and you seem to really have a feel for what the intent of the uni designers wanted and staying true to that, but you still managed to get rid of some stuff that I hated…well, except for the off color panels on the Seahawk roads(seriously, what’s it there for? The logo stands out fine against white!) My favorite things you did: 1. Brought back my favorite Redskins uni concept. Don’t know if the red needs to be darker, but looks good either way. 2. Got rid of the side panels on the Viking’s jersey and the rediculous stripe. I was hoping you’d go back to their old numbers too, but oh well. 3. I was most impressed with the Bills tweak. You keep their side panel stripe and you actually matched it with the pants stripe(someone was sleeping on the job when that actually made it onto the field). Everyone always wants to drop that, but I think when it’s done well like your tweak it looks good and makes for a nice uniform characteristic. 4. I like the stripes on the Giants home too. I think their fans are crazy for spending a lot of money for a Giants jersey that is essential a blue shirt with white numbers on it and nothing else defining about it.[/quote]

    re: Vikings…

    For visualization purposes, this “tweak” from a while back is kinda close to Abraham’s notion…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • mtjaws | January 1, 2010 at 10:42 am |

    Great stuff on the OSU/UO Rose Bowls. Should be a great game. Go Bucks!

    This Bengals tweak is quite nice and simplifies things while maintaining the unique tiger stripes. I approve!

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”369544″]I also think of as recently as 1984 (the Vikings’ abyssmal 3-13 season under martinet Les Steckel) and LB Scott Studwell at the team’s practice facilty. Carrying his helmet by the facemask, he deliberately walked to within earshot of the media line and bitched, to no one in particular, “Can’t we get some fucking WATER out here?”[/quote]

    didn’t korey stringer say that on july 31, 2001?

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 11:11 am |

    On the ESPN pregame show a few minutes ago, they showed an Ohio State and and Oregon helmet being polished at the Rose Bowl. If they are any indication, it’ll be the green helmets (with yellow O) for the Ducks and the traditional helmets for the Buckeyes today.

  • JGoodrich | January 1, 2010 at 11:12 am |

    I’ve been looking for the opportunity to mention this. The Buffalo teams are in the unique situation where their city name is the basis of their logo (not counting initials like the Bears “C”). This is especially true of the Bills – the Sabres could be adapted to another city, but the Bills have no logo without the Buffalo. If/when they do move to Toronto they would presumably be the Toronto Buffaloes to keep the same logo, right?

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”369550″]On the ESPN pregame show a few minutes ago, they showed an Ohio State and and Oregon helmet being polished at the Rose Bowl. If they are any indication, it’ll be the green helmets (with yellow O) for the Ducks and the traditional helmets for the Buckeyes today.[/quote]

    missed that, but i did watch chris fowler ask jake olson his bowl predictions, and i forget which bowl it was, but after setting up the teams, fowler said, “jake, how do you see it?”

    like a pro, the kid was completely nonplussed and gave his pick

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”369552″][quote comment=”369550″]On the ESPN pregame show a few minutes ago, they showed an Ohio State and and Oregon helmet being polished at the Rose Bowl. If they are any indication, it’ll be the green helmets (with yellow O) for the Ducks and the traditional helmets for the Buckeyes today.[/quote]

    missed that, but i did watch chris fowler ask jake olson his bowl predictions, and i forget which bowl it was, but after setting up the teams, fowler said, “jake, how do you see it?”

    like a pro, the kid was completely nonplussed and gave his pick[/quote]
    Ugh.

    I actually noticed in the piece ESPN did about him a while ago that Pete Carroll said something to the effect of “come back and see us soon.” This was either his last visit with the team right before or his first visit right after he lost his vision.

    Guess it’s tough to remember not to say that kind of stuff when those phrases are so ingrained into your personal lexicon.

    Anyway, the helmet-polishing was shown shortly before Jake’s appearance on the show.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm |

    I dunno. Aren’t “Come see us” and “How do you see it?” kinda like “you guys”?

    In the vernacular, their application is no longer exactly literal, that is.

    —Ricko

  • Rob Ullman | January 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm |

    Some Boston-flavored cheesecake, in honor of today’s Winter Classic!

  • =bg= | January 1, 2010 at 12:27 pm |

    Update:
    Winter Classic is still sponsored by Bridgestone.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”369556″]Update:
    Winter Classic is still sponsored by Bridgestone.[/quote]

    And Tiger’s fine with being dropped by AT&T.
    After seeing their commercials, he realized there probably were MILLIONS of women he couldn’t text if he stuck with them.

  • Jim BC | January 1, 2010 at 12:35 pm |

    Happy New Year Uniwatchers!

    I agree with Teebz that the Bruins will look great today, however, I am not a fan of the logo chosen. As Teebz said, the jersey is not a throwback to anything specific. I love the yellow though but wished they would have done something like this instead:

    http://www.legendsof...

  • Jim BC | January 1, 2010 at 12:39 pm |

    Here’s a colour photo – notice Orr is wearing #30 (and #27 in the last B&W shot).

    http://www.legendsof...

  • Rob Ullman | January 1, 2010 at 12:39 pm |

    Y’know, I actually really dig that rounded “B” on the Bruins logo. Looks good in that super-saturated brown, too. They did a good job.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 12:52 pm |

    Really hating this “Battle of Boston” logo NBC is using for this winter classic with the Flyers logo as the first O and the Bruins logo as the second O.

    Know what else I’m hating? “Two thousand (and) ten.”

    VIVA TWENTY TEN!

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 12:54 pm |

    Full Color Football coming to NFL Network!! First installment Friday January 8th.

    For those of us w/o Showtime. (and with NFLNet)

  • DP | January 1, 2010 at 12:59 pm |

    Auburn didn’t participate in a bowl game that season because they were on probation by the SEC. They had paid two high schoolers each $500 to come to Auburn.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”369561″]Really hating this “Battle of Boston” logo NBC is using for this winter classic with the Flyers logo as the first O and the Bruins logo as the second O.

    Know what else I’m hating? “Two thousand (and) ten.”

    VIVA TWENTY TEN![/quote]

    For a whole decade we have been saying two thousand one, two thousand two – or oh-eight or oh-nine. Will probably still hear “two thousand ten” a lot. I will probably slip and say “oh-ten”. But since the 10 is preceded by a zero, it won’t be wrong.

    //bored.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 1:06 pm |

    Not to be picky but I can’t help it.

    Two thousand and ten is equal to 2000.10

    Two thousand ten is equal to 2010.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”369564″][quote comment=”369561″]Really hating this “Battle of Boston” logo NBC is using for this winter classic with the Flyers logo as the first O and the Bruins logo as the second O.

    Know what else I’m hating? “Two thousand (and) ten.”

    VIVA TWENTY TEN![/quote]

    For a whole decade we have been saying two thousand one, two thousand two – or oh-eight or oh-nine. Will probably still hear “two thousand ten” a lot. I will probably slip and say “oh-ten”. But since the 10 is preceded by a zero, it won’t be wrong.

    //bored.[/quote]

    At least they didn’t say ought-one, etc like the did in the last century.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 1, 2010 at 1:13 pm |

    Gator Bowl is color-on-color, WV going yellow over white, and FSU red over gold

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 1:13 pm |

    In the Gator Bowl, West Virginia in Yellow over white while Florida State is in their home jersey of Red over gold.

    Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 1:16 pm |

    Well, using the model of the last 90 years of the previous century, “Twenty-ten” would make the most sense. Not to mention being the easiest to say.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”369567″]Gator Bowl is color-on-color, WV going yellow over white, and FSU red over gold[/quote]

    And LSU/Penn State’s gonna be nice n’ muddy before long.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 1, 2010 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”369568″]In the Gator Bowl, West Virginia in Yellow over white while Florida State is in their home jersey of Red over gold.

    Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.[/quote]
    I would think WV would be the designated “home” team, considering they have the better record.
    That being said WV deserves a better opponent than FSU. Bowden farewell is all well and good, but I’m sure there are better teams deserving of a Gator Bowl appearance.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 1:20 pm |

    Ah, yes, Bobby Clarke. The Flin Flon Bomber.

  • Komet17 | January 1, 2010 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”369569″]Well, using the model of the last 90 years of the previous century, “Twenty-ten” would make the most sense. Not to mention being the easiest to say.[/quote]

  • Frank from B-More | January 1, 2010 at 1:22 pm |

    Love John Allen’s Ravens design. I agree that gold is a poor fit and since the club seats at M&T are grey it works perfectly. I would get rid of the cartoon bird on the helmet and replace it with the B from the pants. Love the TV numbers and the stripe continuity on the jersey. Please forward it to the Ravens!

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 1:22 pm |

    “Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.”

    Next Cialis spokesman?

  • Komet17 | January 1, 2010 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”369569″]Well, using the model of the last 90 years of the previous century, “Twenty-ten” would make the most sense. Not to mention being the easiest to say.[/quote]

    How about: 2K1X?

  • FormerDirtDart | January 1, 2010 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369570″][quote comment=”369567″]Gator Bowl is color-on-color, WV going yellow over white, and FSU red over gold[/quote]

    And LSU/Penn State’s gonna be nice n’ muddy before long.[/quote]
    Classic uniform look, played on grass, with mud, now that’s a Bowl game

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369571″][quote comment=”369568″]In the Gator Bowl, West Virginia in Yellow over white while Florida State is in their home jersey of Red over gold.

    Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.[/quote]
    I would think WV would be the designated “home” team, considering they have the better record.
    That being said WV deserves a better opponent than FSU. Bowden farewell is all well and good, but I’m sure there are better teams deserving of a Gator Bowl appearance.[/quote]

    You are right the WVU should have a better opponent but since it is Bowden’s last game it is nice to see both schools he coached at against each other in his last game.

    Also, what is up with West Virginia having a female as the montaineer mascot?

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”369571″][quote comment=”369568″]In the Gator Bowl, West Virginia in Yellow over white while Florida State is in their home jersey of Red over gold.

    Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.[/quote]
    I would think WV would be the designated “home” team, considering they have the better record.
    That being said WV deserves a better opponent than FSU. Bowden farewell is all well and good, but I’m sure there are better teams deserving of a Gator Bowl appearance.[/quote]

    Reality Check: It isn’t only about “deserving”. There’s also the little matter of which schools have a track record of selling a lot of tickets.

    Bowls are designed as showpieces for communities and sponsors and, hopefully, to make some dough.

    Can’t fault them for that. If a bowl continues despite losing money, someone is living with that negative as a tradeoff for the game’s perceived promotional value.

    —Ricko

  • FormerDirtDart | January 1, 2010 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”369578″][quote comment=”369571″][quote comment=”369568″]In the Gator Bowl, West Virginia in Yellow over white while Florida State is in their home jersey of Red over gold.

    Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.[/quote]
    I would think WV would be the designated “home” team, considering they have the better record.
    That being said WV deserves a better opponent than FSU. Bowden farewell is all well and good, but I’m sure there are better teams deserving of a Gator Bowl appearance.[/quote]

    You are right the WVU should have a better opponent but since it is Bowden’s last game it is nice to see both schools he coached at against each other in his last game.

    Also, what is up with West Virginia having a female as the montaineer mascot?[/quote]
    Title 10…lol

  • FormerDirtDart | January 1, 2010 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”369579″][quote comment=”369571″][quote comment=”369568″]In the Gator Bowl, West Virginia in Yellow over white while Florida State is in their home jersey of Red over gold.

    Bobby Bowden planted the spear at midfield before the game.[/quote]
    I would think WV would be the designated “home” team, considering they have the better record.
    That being said WV deserves a better opponent than FSU. Bowden farewell is all well and good, but I’m sure there are better teams deserving of a Gator Bowl appearance.[/quote]

    Reality Check: It isn’t only about “deserving”. There’s also the little matter of which schools have a track record of selling a lot of tickets.

    Bowls are designed as showpieces for communities and sponsors and, hopefully, to make some dough.

    Can’t fault them for that. If a bowl continues despite losing money, someone is living with that negative as a tradeoff for the game’s perceived promotional value.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    moments ago they stated the game sold out almost immediately after the teams were announced, so you point is taken.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”369577″][quote comment=”369570″][quote comment=”369567″]Gator Bowl is color-on-color, WV going yellow over white, and FSU red over gold[/quote]

    And LSU/Penn State’s gonna be nice n’ muddy before long.[/quote]
    Classic uniform look, played on grass, with mud, now that’s a Bowl game[/quote]

    Yes indeed!

    I can already tell you these two games are in next week’s Top 5. The pre-New-Year’s list comes out tomorrow.

    Just to make sure on the Gator Bowl, though, can we see what that looks like in black&white?

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”369577″][quote comment=”369570″][quote comment=”369567″]Gator Bowl is color-on-color, WV going yellow over white, and FSU red over gold[/quote]

    And LSU/Penn State’s gonna be nice n’ muddy before long.[/quote]
    Classic uniform look, played on grass, with mud, now that’s a Bowl game[/quote]

    Considering how bad the field was a couple of nights ago when Miami and Wisconsin played on it with the rain today it will be a MESS, and flipping over it is.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”369574″]Love John Allen’s Ravens design. I agree that gold is a poor fit and since the club seats at M&T are grey it works perfectly. I would get rid of the cartoon bird on the helmet and replace it with the B from the pants. Love the TV numbers and the stripe continuity on the jersey. Please forward it to the Ravens![/quote]
    Agree on the design, but I’m still liking the gold. Used as it is as a subtle accent, it works for me.
    What I would like to see is a logo that is not based on the wings, or the cartoon bird, or the shield. I like the Ravens unis well enough as they are, but would like to see some logo concepts that get further away from the current elements.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”369569″]Well, using the model of the last 90 years of the previous century, “Twenty-ten” would make the most sense. Not to mention being the easiest to say.[/quote]

    I’m Calling It Twenty-Ten.

    Actually, except for the year 2000, I’ve been calling the years twenty-oh-one, twenty-oh-two, etc..

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    Phil, Larry, Mike and Ricko, you never cease to amaze. Thanks!

    Actually, Ricko, I buttered my bread once before toasting, but I was trying to make a quickie garlic bread. If you don’t overdo it with the butter it can be done.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”369585″]Actually, except for the year 2000, I’ve been calling the years twenty-oh-one, twenty-oh-two, etc..[/quote]
    I’m not a fan of that cadence, either.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”369586″]Phil, Larry, Mike and Ricko, you never cease to amaze. Thanks!

    Actually, Ricko, I buttered my bread once before toasting, but I was trying to make a quickie garlic bread. If you don’t overdo it with the butter it can be done.[/quote]
    That’s not a problem in a toaster oven. It’s a death-defying stunt if you use a pop-up toaster, though.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 1:46 pm |

    Thinking of a new rating system for unis. There’s my standard, “I’d wear that uni,” followed by “I’d DIY that” and finally “I’d actually buy that.”

    With Michael’s Jets/Titans idea, I’m firmly in the “I’d wear that” category, but I’m leaning towards “I’d DIY that.” Nice idea.

  • FormerDirtDart | January 1, 2010 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”369565″]Not to be picky but I can’t help it.

    Two thousand and ten is equal to 2000.10

    Two thousand ten is equal to 2010.[/quote]
    Actually, two thousand and ten is equal to
    2000 + 10, which equals 2010

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”369546″]How ’bout a couple SPORT magazine photos of the 1957 Rose Bowl from that scrap heap I call a “morgue”?
    http://farm5.static....
    and Don Clark, first guy besides Lenny Moore that I remembering seeing with white tape on his shoes…
    http://farm3.static....

    (My little contribution to today’s lead item)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Cool always fun to see new/old pictures that I had not seen before.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”369590″][quote comment=”369565″]Not to be picky but I can’t help it.

    Two thousand and ten is equal to 2000.10

    Two thousand ten is equal to 2010.[/quote]
    Actually, two thousand and ten is equal to
    2000 + 10, which equals 2010[/quote]

    If you write and check with two thousand and ten. The bank will deduct 2,000.10 from your account the and does not equal + it equals a decimial point. I had a teacher who pounded this point home for a full semester.

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 1:53 pm |

    Northwestern QB’s performance becoming Keenumesque.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 1:59 pm |

    Immediate impression of this year’s WC: watching hockey on TV generally involves looking at a well lit ice surface surrounded by close-in rows of fans in the dark. Visually, the live crowd and the design of the arena is generally a non-entity to the home viewer. Watching today, the eye is drawn to all the stuff outside of the rink and the fact that daylight makes that all visible.

    Definitely a novelty. I’m trying to watch all the football and the hockey at the same time.

  • Steve | January 1, 2010 at 2:00 pm |

    The [quote comment=”369534″]The game has been played on other dates besides the 1st, most recently 2006.[/quote]
    The Rose Bowl game is always played on Jan. 1st, unless the 1st is on a Sunday, then the game is played the next day.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”369594″]Immediate impression of this year’s WC: watching hockey on TV generally involves looking at a well lit ice surface surrounded by close-in rows of fans in the dark. Visually, the live crowd and the design of the arena is generally a non-entity to the home viewer. Watching today, the eye is drawn to all the stuff outside of the rink and the fact that daylight makes that all visible.

    Definitely a novelty. I’m trying to watch all the football and the hockey at the same time.[/quote]

    I am trying to do the same thing as well, hope the remote batteires hold up.

  • Jeff Van | January 1, 2010 at 2:01 pm |

    Flyers goalie has eye black stickers on! How cool is that! A fight (brief) just broke out and both guys had them as well!

    Awesome site, love Uniwatch!

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 2:02 pm |

    Some NHL throwback game.
    They’re wearing helmets, for chrissakes.

    (TFPIC)*

    —Ricko

    * Tongue Firmly Planted In Cheek

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”369598″]Some NHL throwback game.
    They’re wearing helmets, for chrissakes.

    (TFPIC)*

    —Ricko

    * Tongue Firmly Planted In Cheek[/quote]

    I miss Ron Duguay.

    I miss Ron Duguay.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”369592″][quote comment=”369590″][quote comment=”369565″]Not to be picky but I can’t help it.

    Two thousand and ten is equal to 2000.10

    Two thousand ten is equal to 2010.[/quote]
    Actually, two thousand and ten is equal to
    2000 + 10, which equals 2010[/quote]

    If you write and check with two thousand and ten. The bank will deduct 2,000.10 from your account the and does not equal + it equals a decimial point.

    I had a teacher who pounded this point home for a full semester.[/quote]
    Not sure if I’m this bored.

  • hgmercury09 | January 1, 2010 at 2:10 pm |

    I like the redesign of the Washington Redskins uniform if they have to change their name to the Washington Warriors. I would agree that if the Washington Redskins do have to change their name by court order then Warriors would be the perfect name to use. Anyways, I agree the burgundy needs to be darker and the spear helmet and spear logo would be perfect. Even if the Washington Redskins do not need to change their name, I would tweak their uniforms(because the sleeves are disappearing) by moving the numbers up to their shoulders and the current striping patterns on the home and road jersey should be moved up where the tv numbers used to be. I would also add gold pants to either the current Washington Redskins jersey or the Washington Warriors jersey with the striping pattern of burgundy and white.

  • Jim BC | January 1, 2010 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”369598″]Some NHL throwback game.
    They’re wearing helmets, for chrissakes.

    (TFPIC)*

    —Ricko

    * Tongue Firmly Planted In Cheek[/quote]
    Ricko – at least they had Clarke and Orr sans helmets:

    http://imagecache5.a...

    http://web.mac.com/r...

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 2:20 pm |

    just got back from brunch, so i missed the first period…but jim texted me and said there was a fight???

    dammit…how could i miss that…wait…what’s this ‘REW’ button on the dvd for?

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”369601″]I like the redesign of the Washington Redskins uniform if they have to change their name to the Washington Warriors. I would agree that if the Washington Redskins do have to change their name by court order then Warriors would be the perfect name to use. Anyways, I agree the burgundy needs to be darker and the spear helmet and spear logo would be perfect. Even if the Washington Redskins do not need to change their name, I would tweak their uniforms(because the sleeves are disappearing) by moving the numbers up to their shoulders and the current striping patterns on the home and road jersey should be moved up where the tv numbers used to be. I would also add gold pants to either the current Washington Redskins jersey or the Washington Warriors jersey with the striping pattern of burgundy and white.[/quote]

    Living in the other part of MD where we call ’em the Deadskins or based on their wins this season the Fourskins… I usually wouldn’t care. But as a uniwatcher I know that for my money, the Redskins’ burgundy is the perfect shade, and the yellow-gold is the perfect compliment.
    It seems that pre-Lombardi they wore a darker maroon and an earthier gold, but I like the color scheme of the last 40 years.

    Yeah leon, I said maroon…

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369603″]just got back from brunch, so i missed the first period…but jim texted me and said there was a fight???

    dammit…how could i miss that…wait…what’s this ‘REW’ button on the dvd for?[/quote]

    Try “play from beginning” on the dvr menu there Phil

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 2:25 pm |

    ok…was carcillo/thornton the only scrap? cuz i got some bowls to watch in the intermission

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 2:26 pm |

    I am loving the Bruins’ look. That yellow against the white ice? GORGEOUS!

    Back to Coach’s Corner… I want to hear Cherry’s rant.

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”369606″]ok…was carcillo/thornton the only scrap? cuz i got some bowls to watch in the intermission[/quote]

    Yes, but Boychuk threw at least one big hit along the boards.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 2:31 pm |

    Looking at some of the good uni matchups in the bowls, I was wondering if we could come up with some ideal matchups based on good unis, good color pallets and good contrasts. In other words, while Stanford and Oklahoma both have great unis -they are a bit too much from the same pallet.

  • Mike Engle | January 1, 2010 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”369606″]ok…was carcillo/thornton the only scrap? cuz i got some bowls to watch in the intermission[/quote]
    Yes.
    In other uni watching news at the Winter Classic, former Red Sox and Phillies pitcher Curt Schilling just gave an interview wearing a throwback Bernie Parent jersey. No, not that kind, this one instead.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 2:33 pm |

    The field in the LSU and Penn State gaeme is bad and you have a halftime show coming up. The second half is going to be brutal for the field.

  • Jim BC | January 1, 2010 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”369607″]I am loving the Bruins’ look. That yellow against the white ice? GORGEOUS!

    Back to Coach’s Corner… I want to hear Cherry’s rant.[/quote]
    Cherry’s not too happy about NBC’s comparing Carcillo to the Hammer… and I don’t blame him.

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”369609″]Looking at some of the good uni matchups in the bowls, I was wondering if we could come up with some ideal matchups based on good unis, good color pallets and good contrasts. In other words, while Stanford and Oklahoma both have great unis -they are a bit too much from the same pallet.[/quote]

    i haven’t even looked, but jim already submitted his “pre new years” 5 & 1, so that could be in there…good point about the ‘contrasting’ colors, but not every great looking matchup has to have two (or four, in the case of colored pants) different colors…helps, yes, but not always

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    not sure if anyone is watching, but the outback bowl (ESPN) is auburn 35/n’western 35 with 30 seconds to play and n’western driving

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    Interesting.

    Found this comment posted re: Boise State at the Idaho Statesman website…
    “I am color blind and can’t watch your team on TV unless they play on the road. A blue turf with blue uniforms is a colored blind guy’s worst nightmare.”
    http://voices.idahos...

    —Ricko

  • DarkAudit | January 1, 2010 at 2:41 pm |

    WVU sporting orange-on-white “CH” stickers on their helmets for Chris Henry.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 2:45 pm |

    Abraham, I like your Skins, Bills and Bengals ideas. The Seahawks look is nice, but you can’t mess with the neon green. ;)

    John’s Ravens and Adam’s Bengals are nice too. Love those shoulder stripes.

  • DarkAudit | January 1, 2010 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”369614″]not sure if anyone is watching, but the outback bowl (ESPN) is auburn 35/n’western 35 with 30 seconds to play and n’western driving[/quote]

    I am now, as they’re butting into WVU @ Purdue. :p

    Speaking of which, I guess Swooshworld fired the guy who noticed the “system” looked like bad practice jerseys. Booooooooring.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”369611″]The field in the LSU and Penn State gaeme is bad and you have a halftime show coming up. The second half is going to be brutal for the field.[/quote]

    Tim Brando on CBS’ halftime show shouted, “Get some field turf down there in Orlando!”

    I shouted back at the TV, “NO!” I’m loving how this game looks.

    Hey, it could be worse. I used to play football on days like this at my cousins’ farm. At least these guys don’t have to worry about falling in cow manure…

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 2:49 pm |

    Clear skies in Boston today also have generated something unusual. You don’t see great shots from the blimp all that often during NHL games.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”369619″] I used to play football on days like this at my cousins’ farm. At least these guys don’t have to worry about falling in cow manure…[/quote]

    with these guys?

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 2:56 pm |

    “Also, what is up with West Virginia having a female as the montaineer mascot?”

    Just a guess: WVU is playing Purdue in B-Ball right now and they are using a male Mountaineer mascot.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”369621″][quote comment=”369619″] I used to play football on days like this at my cousins’ farm. At least these guys don’t have to worry about falling in cow manure…[/quote]

    with these guys?[/quote]

    Wow, the cast of FOOTLOOSE.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 2:58 pm |

    After some of you brought up Joe Washington earlier, there was a reference to him from the CBS announcers when they were talking about WVU’s Noel Devine: http://espn-i.starwa...

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”369623″][quote comment=”369621″][quote comment=”369619″] I used to play football on days like this at my cousins’ farm. At least these guys don’t have to worry about falling in cow manure…[/quote]

    with these guys?[/quote]

    Wow, the cast of FOOTLOOSE.[/quote]

    The first, second and fourth guys in the back, yep.

    I miss those striped socks of mine…

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”369615″]Interesting.

    Found this comment posted re: Boise State at the Idaho Statesman website…
    “I am color blind and can’t watch your team on TV unless they play on the road. A blue turf with blue uniforms is a colored blind guy’s worst nightmare.”
    http://voices.idahos...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    “colored blind guy” seems to be insensitive and politically incorrect on several fronts

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 3:09 pm |

    NW tries a fake FG to win in overtime and fails! Using one of those swinging gate formations.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”369626″][quote comment=”369615″]Interesting.

    Found this comment posted re: Boise State at the Idaho Statesman website…
    “I am color blind and can’t watch your team on TV unless they play on the road. A blue turf with blue uniforms is a colored blind guy’s worst nightmare.”
    http://voices.idahos...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    “colored blind guy” seems to be insensitive and politically incorrect on several fronts[/quote]

    Well, it was dark in the trailer when he was typing.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”369613″][quote comment=”369609″]Looking at some of the good uni matchups in the bowls, I was wondering if we could come up with some ideal matchups based on good unis, good color pallets and good contrasts. In other words, while Stanford and Oklahoma both have great unis -they are a bit too much from the same pallet.[/quote]

    i haven’t even looked, but jim already submitted his “pre new years” 5 & 1, so that could be in there…good point about the ‘contrasting’ colors, but not every great looking matchup has to have two (or four, in the case of colored pants) different colors…helps, yes, but not always[/quote]

    Phil’s right. I like contrast, but not in all cases. For instance (not to give too much away), I usually like teams with dark helmets to have dark pants on the away unis. But this matchup http://espn-i.starwa... didn’t make my Top 5, while this matchup with similar pants did: http://espn-i.starwa...

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”369582″]
    Just to make sure on the Gator Bowl, though, can we see what that looks like in black&white?[/quote]

    in order to ascertain the bowl’s “color blindness” test…

    color vs. B & W

    we have a winner

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”369604″][quote comment=”369601″]I like the redesign of the Washington Redskins uniform if they have to change their name to the Washington Warriors. I would agree that if the Washington Redskins do have to change their name by court order then Warriors would be the perfect name to use. Anyways, I agree the burgundy needs to be darker and the spear helmet and spear logo would be perfect. Even if the Washington Redskins do not need to change their name, I would tweak their uniforms(because the sleeves are disappearing) by moving the numbers up to their shoulders and the current striping patterns on the home and road jersey should be moved up where the tv numbers used to be. I would also add gold pants to either the current Washington Redskins jersey or the Washington Warriors jersey with the striping pattern of burgundy and white.[/quote]

    Living in the other part of MD where we call ’em the Deadskins or based on their wins this season the Fourskins… I usually wouldn’t care. But as a uniwatcher I know that for my money, the Redskins’ burgundy is the perfect shade, and the yellow-gold is the perfect compliment.
    It seems that pre-Lombardi they wore a darker maroon and an earthier gold, but I like the color scheme of the last 40 years.

    Yeah leon, I said maroon…[/quote]

    Complement/Compliment
    •Complement: complete, make whole, balance
    •Compliment: (as a noun) expression of admiration, congratulation, or praise; formal act of courtesy, civility, or respect (compliments – good wishes or regard); (as a verb) praise, flatter

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”369629″][quote comment=”369613″][quote comment=”369609″]Looking at some of the good uni matchups in the bowls, I was wondering if we could come up with some ideal matchups based on good unis, good color pallets and good contrasts. In other words, while Stanford and Oklahoma both have great unis -they are a bit too much from the same pallet.[/quote]

    i haven’t even looked, but jim already submitted his “pre new years” 5 & 1, so that could be in there…good point about the ‘contrasting’ colors, but not every great looking matchup has to have two (or four, in the case of colored pants) different colors…helps, yes, but not always[/quote]

    Phil’s right. I like contrast, but not in all cases. For instance (not to give too much away), I usually like teams with dark helmets to have dark pants on the away unis. But this matchup http://espn-i.starwa... didn’t make my Top 5, while this matchup with similar pants did: http://espn-i.starwa...
    I have Georgia – Texas A&M at the top of my list. I will admit that at least Stanford wears a white lid to differentiate from the Sooners, and both teams in that red matchup have good logos and details.
    Worse from my standpoint would be Oklahoma – Alabama or Navy-Notre Dame. All outstanding unis, but I prefer a little mix with my match. TOSU-Michigan, USC-UCLA, Fla- Fla St, for example.

  • Marty | January 1, 2010 at 3:26 pm |

    It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”369631″][quote comment=”369604″][quote comment=”369601″]I like the redesign of the Washington Redskins uniform if they have to change their name to the Washington Warriors. I would agree that if the Washington Redskins do have to change their name by court order then Warriors would be the perfect name to use. Anyways, I agree the burgundy needs to be darker and the spear helmet and spear logo would be perfect. Even if the Washington Redskins do not need to change their name, I would tweak their uniforms(because the sleeves are disappearing) by moving the numbers up to their shoulders and the current striping patterns on the home and road jersey should be moved up where the tv numbers used to be. I would also add gold pants to either the current Washington Redskins jersey or the Washington Warriors jersey with the striping pattern of burgundy and white.[/quote]

    Living in the other part of MD where we call ’em the Deadskins or based on their wins this season the Fourskins… I usually wouldn’t care. But as a uniwatcher I know that for my money, the Redskins’ burgundy is the perfect shade, and the yellow-gold is the perfect compliment.
    It seems that pre-Lombardi they wore a darker maroon and an earthier gold, but I like the color scheme of the last 40 years.

    Yeah leon, I said maroon…[/quote]

    Complement/Compliment
    •Complement: complete, make whole, balance
    •Compliment: (as a noun) expression of admiration, congratulation, or praise; formal act of courtesy, civility, or respect (compliments – good wishes or regard); (as a verb) praise, flatter[/quote]
    Ouch. I was trying to say that the yellow gold is in praise of the burgundy. Yeah – that’s the ticket.
    I do know it goes good with it – or “goes well with it” if you must.

  • DarkAudit | January 1, 2010 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”369622″]”Also, what is up with West Virginia having a female as the montaineer mascot?”

    Just a guess: WVU is playing Purdue in B-Ball right now and they are using a male Mountaineer mascot.[/quote]

    The mascot at the Purdue game is the backup Mountaineer.

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 3:39 pm |

    ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”369628″][quote comment=”369626″][quote comment=”369615″]Interesting.

    Found this comment posted re: Boise State at the Idaho Statesman website…
    “I am color blind and can’t watch your team on TV unless they play on the road. A blue turf with blue uniforms is a colored blind guy’s worst nightmare.”
    http://voices.idahos...

    —Ricko[/quote]
    “colored blind guy” seems to be insensitive and politically incorrect on several fronts[/quote]

    Well, it was dark in the trailer when he was typing.[/quote]
    In all seriousness, colorblindness is irrelevant when it comes to the Broncos and the Smurf Turf.

    Without corrective lenses, my vision is comparable to that of Vincent van Gopher, but my color vision is perfect and I cannot watch a Boise State home game for more than 5 minutes at a time.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 3:40 pm |

    I haven’t been paying attention to the world of NFL replicas or semi-authentics since I haven’t bought or received any jerseys since about 2000 (two thousand and oh), but a friend’s son was wearing a Ben Roethlesberger white road jersey he got for Christmas. His Mom paid $25.00 and this jersey had sewn tackle twill numbers, sewn stripes, sewn NOB – each letter sewn onto the nameplate. Very impressive jersey for 25 bucks. Is this quality now common at that price?

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 3:43 pm |

    Just a guess, but I’d imagine (based on “brightness” on the “value” scale) that among the typical standard uni colors…
    Athletic Gold
    Vegas Gold (or some kind of “khaki”)
    Silver Gray
    Powder Blue
    Tennessee Orange
    and
    Neon Green (of the “dayglo” variety)

    …would work as acceptable alternatives to white
    (all of them, with the exception of Silver Gray, would seem to work vs. a team wearing white, too; that’s why some hoops conferences have designated the two “golds” as a road color and others as a home color).

    But after them the list gets pretty short.
    (Okay, Pink Panther Pink, too, but who wears that as a regular color.)

    —Ricko

  • odessa steps magazin | January 1, 2010 at 3:47 pm |

    Does this count as a uniform gaffe?

    In the pregame, Costas said that the bruins retired numbers were hung at Fenway today including “Esposito’s 77.”

    D’oh.

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”369633″]It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?[/quote]

    In 1938 Penn State wore light blue jerseys with silver pants and silver helmets

    According to the Penn State Football Encyclopedia page 163

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”369632″][quote comment=”369629″][quote comment=”369613″][quote comment=”369609″]Looking at some of the good uni matchups in the bowls, I was wondering if we could come up with some ideal matchups based on good unis, good color pallets and good contrasts. In other words, while Stanford and Oklahoma both have great unis -they are a bit too much from the same pallet.[/quote]

    i haven’t even looked, but jim already submitted his “pre new years” 5 & 1, so that could be in there…good point about the ‘contrasting’ colors, but not every great looking matchup has to have two (or four, in the case of colored pants) different colors…helps, yes, but not always[/quote]

    Phil’s right. I like contrast, but not in all cases. For instance (not to give too much away), I usually like teams with dark helmets to have dark pants on the away unis. But this matchup http://espn-i.starwa... didn’t make my Top 5, while this matchup with similar pants did: http://espn-i.starwa...
    I have Georgia – Texas A&M at the top of my list. I will admit that at least Stanford wears a white lid to differentiate from the Sooners, and both teams in that red matchup have good logos and details.
    Worse from my standpoint would be Oklahoma – Alabama or Navy-Notre Dame. All outstanding unis, but I prefer a little mix with my match. TOSU-Michigan, USC-UCLA, Fla- Fla St, for example.[/quote]

    I agree with you on an OU/Ala. or Navy/ND matchup. In fact, this year’s Navy/ND game was my worst matchup of that week. Although they both have great classic unis, they’re way too similar.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”369637″]ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…[/quote]

    No doubt a little snow makes it a better show. Don’t think anyone at NBC or the NHL would dispute that. Not a better GAME, mind you, but a better SHOW. Almost certainly keeps casual viewers around longer.

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”369644″][quote comment=”369637″]ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…[/quote]

    No doubt a little snow makes it a better show. Don’t think anyone at NBC or the NHL would dispute that. Not a better GAME, mind you, but a better SHOW. Almost certainly keeps casual viewers around longer.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The other thing that is going to hurt them is that all of the early bowl games are competitive. They really needed blowouts to get people flipping around.

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”369640″]Just a guess, but I’d imagine (based on “brightness” on the “value” scale) that among the typical standard uni colors…

    Neon Green (of the “dayglo” variety)

    …would work as acceptable alternatives to white
    [/quote]

    you’d be right…it would therefore “work” in a color on color game:

    neon snot in color…and…neon snot in B & W

    perhaps the hawks can petition the league to play a color on color game next season (tfpic)

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 3:52 pm |

    To me the more interesting tidbit about Penn State uniforms happened in 1927.

    For games vs Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg the Lions wore SCARLET jerseys since Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg’s uniforms were too similar to the Lions colors. From PSU encyclopedia page 135.

    So Penn State in 2 points in history used scarlet and silver.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”369646″][quote comment=”369640″]Just a guess, but I’d imagine (based on “brightness” on the “value” scale) that among the typical standard uni colors…

    Neon Green (of the “dayglo” variety)

    …would work as acceptable alternatives to white
    [/quote]

    you’d be right…it would therefore “work” in a color on color game:

    neon snot in color…and…neon snot in B & W

    perhaps the hawks can petition the league to play a color on color game next season (tfpic)[/quote]

    Plus, that color never photographs as bright as it looks on TV or in person.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”369642″][quote comment=”369633″]It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?[/quote]

    In 1938 Penn State wore light blue jerseys with silver pants and silver helmets

    According to the Penn State Football Encyclopedia page 163[/quote]

    Good thing Matt Millen wasn’t playing back then. He would have said to JoePa, “Hey, how ’bout adding some black to that?”

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 4:00 pm |

    Any chance they replay the Winter Classic on the NHL Network? I would like to see some of it.
    Ticks me that they must play it on New Years.

    I hope they do replay it. But I have no idea if it being on NBC matters or not.

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”369649″][quote comment=”369642″][quote comment=”369633″]It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?[/quote]

    In 1938 Penn State wore light blue jerseys with silver pants and silver helmets

    According to the Penn State Football Encyclopedia page 163[/quote]

    Good thing Matt Millen wasn’t playing back then. He would have said to JoePa, “Hey, how ’bout adding some black to that?”[/quote]

    Now that was a clever line JimV. Took me a minute to figure out what you meant.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”369647″]To me the more interesting tidbit about Penn State uniforms happened in 1927.

    For games vs Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg the Lions wore SCARLET jerseys since Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg’s uniforms were too similar to the Lions colors. From PSU encyclopedia page 135.

    So Penn State in 2 points in history used scarlet and silver.[/quote]

    Yeah, there’s a huge difference between having a color in your history and having it be “traditional”.

    I don’t think anyone in his right mind would say the New York/San Francisco Giants have a “tradition” of wearing purple (and plaid sometimes, no less).
    http://exhibits.base...

    —Ricko

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”369649″][quote comment=”369642″][quote comment=”369633″]It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?[/quote]

    In 1938 Penn State wore light blue jerseys with silver pants and silver helmets

    According to the Penn State Football Encyclopedia page 163[/quote]

    Good thing Matt Millen wasn’t playing back then. He would have said to JoePa, “Hey, how ’bout adding some black to that?”[/quote]

    Joe Pa was coaching in 1938?

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”369650″]Any chance they replay the Winter Classic on the NHL Network? I would like to see some of it.
    Ticks me that they must play it on New Years.

    I hope they do replay it. But I have no idea if it being on NBC matters or not.[/quote]

    ‘cept they’d be crazy to play it any other day.
    For the time being, at least. Just too large an available potential audience to ignore, it being a holiday in both the U.S. and Canada.

    Boston just tied it at 1-all with 2:14 to play, btw.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:07 pm |

    …and it’s starting to get dark.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 4:09 pm |

    Whether the Bruins’ are wearing Throwbacks or Fauxbacks, they are fantastic. Very well executed look. And the Flyers provide a nice complEment.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 4:10 pm |

    OT in the WC
    OMGWTFLOL!!

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”369653″][quote comment=”369649″][quote comment=”369642″][quote comment=”369633″]It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?[/quote]

    In 1938 Penn State wore light blue jerseys with silver pants and silver helmets

    According to the Penn State Football Encyclopedia page 163[/quote]

    Good thing Matt Millen wasn’t playing back then. He would have said to JoePa, “Hey, how ’bout adding some black to that?”[/quote]

    Joe Pa was coaching in 1938?[/quote]

    He was thinking of retiring that year, but then he got his second wind. ;)

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”369653″]Joe Pa was coaching in 1938?[/quote]

    ricko was a redshirt freshman

    /good thing they have lights the fens

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369658″][quote comment=”369653″][quote comment=”369649″][quote comment=”369642″][quote comment=”369633″]It’s purely serendipitous but doesn’t Penn State look pretty good with silver pants and trim? Have they ever worn silver intentionally?[/quote]

    In 1938 Penn State wore light blue jerseys with silver pants and silver helmets

    According to the Penn State Football Encyclopedia page 163[/quote]

    Good thing Matt Millen wasn’t playing back then. He would have said to JoePa, “Hey, how ’bout adding some black to that?”[/quote]

    Joe Pa was coaching in 1938?[/quote]

    He was thinking of retiring that year, but then he got his second wind. ;)[/quote]

    He was only 11 in the fall of ’38.
    Probably watched the games online.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369652″][quote comment=”369647″]To me the more interesting tidbit about Penn State uniforms happened in 1927.

    For games vs Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg the Lions wore SCARLET jerseys since Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg’s uniforms were too similar to the Lions colors. From PSU encyclopedia page 135.

    So Penn State in 2 points in history used scarlet and silver.[/quote]

    Yeah, there’s a huge difference between having a color in your history and having it be “traditional”.

    I don’t think anyone in his right mind would say the New York/San Francisco Giants have a “tradition” of wearing purple (and plaid sometimes, no less).
    http://exhibits.base...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”369659″][quote comment=”369653″]Joe Pa was coaching in 1938?[/quote]

    ricko was a redshirt freshman

    /good thing they have lights the fens[/quote]

    Nah, I was with William & Mary.
    Mostly Mary.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”369661″]I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    that was a one-game alt for breast cancer awareness

    /very rare jersey

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”369661″][quote comment=”369652″][quote comment=”369647″]To me the more interesting tidbit about Penn State uniforms happened in 1927.

    For games vs Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg the Lions wore SCARLET jerseys since Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg’s uniforms were too similar to the Lions colors. From PSU encyclopedia page 135.

    So Penn State in 2 points in history used scarlet and silver.[/quote]

    Yeah, there’s a huge difference between having a color in your history and having it be “traditional”.

    I don’t think anyone in his right mind would say the New York/San Francisco Giants have a “tradition” of wearing purple (and plaid sometimes, no less).
    http://exhibits.base...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    Yeah, but that hardly makes ’em “traditional.”

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:16 pm |

    Cool. A hockey walk-off at Fenway.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”369663″][quote comment=”369661″]I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    that was a one-game alt for breast cancer awareness

    /very rare jersey[/quote]

    Couldn’t say “breast” back then, though.
    Called it “Woman-Thing Cancer Awareness”.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 4:19 pm |

    So the Bruins are going to lose in the finals. Or does that only happen when the visiting team wins?

    Handshakes at center ice — we’ve been informed tht it’s a tradition SINCE CHICAGO! Yep. If it’s been done once, it’s a tradition.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”369666″][quote comment=”369663″][quote comment=”369661″]I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    that was a one-game alt for breast cancer awareness

    /very rare jersey[/quote]

    Couldn’t say “breast” back then, though.
    Called it “Woman-Thing Cancer Awareness”.[/quote]

    I thought the “Woman Thing” was a little farther south…

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369664″][quote comment=”369661″][quote comment=”369652″][quote comment=”369647″]To me the more interesting tidbit about Penn State uniforms happened in 1927.

    For games vs Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg the Lions wore SCARLET jerseys since Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg’s uniforms were too similar to the Lions colors. From PSU encyclopedia page 135.

    So Penn State in 2 points in history used scarlet and silver.[/quote]

    Yeah, there’s a huge difference between having a color in your history and having it be “traditional”.

    I don’t think anyone in his right mind would say the New York/San Francisco Giants have a “tradition” of wearing purple (and plaid sometimes, no less).
    http://exhibits.base...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    Yeah, but that hardly makes ’em “traditional.”[/quote]

    Oh, I know…I was agreeing. The pink & black would be as “traditional” as those plaid Giants unis (which I’m not so sure I’d wear).

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369667″]So the Bruins are going to lose in the finals. Or does that only happen when the visiting team wins?

    Handshakes at center ice — we’ve been informed tht it’s a tradition SINCE CHICAGO! Yep. If it’s been done once, it’s a tradition.[/quote]

    If it’s been done in the last two of only three games played, it’s a certainly becoming a tradition. For that game. So far.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”369667″]So the Bruins are going to lose in the finals. Or does that only happen when the visiting team wins?

    Handshakes at center ice — we’ve been informed tht it’s a tradition SINCE CHICAGO! Yep. If it’s been done once, it’s a tradition.[/quote]

    certainly better than the pens/buffaslugs, when the players met in the parking lot after the game to “settle things” for good

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”369669″][quote comment=”369664″][quote comment=”369661″][quote comment=”369652″][quote comment=”369647″]To me the more interesting tidbit about Penn State uniforms happened in 1927.

    For games vs Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg the Lions wore SCARLET jerseys since Lebanon Valley and Gettysburg’s uniforms were too similar to the Lions colors. From PSU encyclopedia page 135.

    So Penn State in 2 points in history used scarlet and silver.[/quote]

    Yeah, there’s a huge difference between having a color in your history and having it be “traditional”.

    I don’t think anyone in his right mind would say the New York/San Francisco Giants have a “tradition” of wearing purple (and plaid sometimes, no less).
    http://exhibits.base...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    Yeah, but that hardly makes ’em “traditional.”[/quote]

    Oh, I know…I was agreeing. The pink & black would be as “traditional” as those plaid Giants unis (which I’m not so sure I’d wear).[/quote]

    Shoulda said I knew you were agreeing.

    About “traditions”. Can develop pretty quickly. I think it’s safe to say it took only three “Super Bowls” for the game to become an American viewing tradition.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    Not saying WB is Super Bowl.
    Just saying surfing back to it is probably already habit for a lot of sports fans on New Year’s morning.

    —Ricko

  • Chuck | January 1, 2010 at 4:34 pm |

    Happy New Year to all!

    GO BUCKEYES!

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:35 pm |

    WC. (Jeez)

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”369637″]ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…[/quote]

    The red line must be continuous, according to the resident ice-maker and zamboni driver sitting on my couch and drinking all my beer.

    There might be a hockey fight right here if he cracks open another one that doesn’t belong to him. LOL

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 4:36 pm |

    Someone wanna get Les Miles a watch?

    What a game. Way to go, Lions!

    And congrats to JoePa (or as one fan’s sign in the stands said, “Jeaux Pa”).

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”369672″]About “traditions”. Can develop pretty quickly. I think it’s safe to say it took only three “Super Bowls” for the game to become an American viewing tradition.[/quote]
    You can say that in hindsight. To me, it’s really pushing the definition of the word to say that something that’s happened two or three times is a tradition. I think you can say it’s becoming a tradition, but to call something traditional after such a small sample size? That’s a stretch.

    What about the Bears’ orange jerseys? They’ve worn them every year around Halloween for the past five seasons. Is that a tradition? To me, it isn’t.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”369676″][quote comment=”369637″]ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…[/quote]

    The red line must be continuous, according to the resident ice-maker and zamboni driver sitting on my couch and drinking all my beer.

    There might be a hockey fight right here if he cracks open another one that doesn’t belong to him. LOL[/quote]

    Make sure you get the shirt over his head.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 4:39 pm |

    And congrats to Bobby Bowden as well, even if he beat one of my other teams today.

    One of my favorite bowl games was the Orange Bowl when PSU and FSU played. The postgame interview was one of the classiest things I ever heard. Almost sounded like two good buddies instead of two opposing coaches.

    So long, Bobby.

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”369679″][quote comment=”369676″][quote comment=”369637″]ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…[/quote]

    The red line must be continuous, according to the resident ice-maker and zamboni driver sitting on my couch and drinking all my beer.

    There might be a hockey fight right here if he cracks open another one that doesn’t belong to him. LOL[/quote]

    Make sure you get the shirt over his head.[/quote]

    That’s old-school hockey talk! With the newer Rbk jerseys, it’s actually more effective to pull the front of the neckline up. The stretchy material works to your advantage.

    You didn’t hear that from me, though. The hockey fight I had in the outdoor league on Tuesday night didn’t happen. ;o)

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm |

    Now wouldn’t you think that, for optimum possible visual recognition, Oregon would have gone with the forest or black helmets?

    I don’t get it sometimes. You have the option to look clearly different, and don’t go with it?

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”369681″][quote comment=”369679″][quote comment=”369676″][quote comment=”369637″]ya know…the winter classic still looks great, but the wx gods failed

    imagine if they had played the game yesterday?

    also, does it bother anyone else that the red line completely bisects the WC logo? even “bridgestone” gets the slice (which is fine)…[/quote]

    The red line must be continuous, according to the resident ice-maker and zamboni driver sitting on my couch and drinking all my beer.

    There might be a hockey fight right here if he cracks open another one that doesn’t belong to him. LOL[/quote]

    Make sure you get the shirt over his head.[/quote]

    That’s old-school hockey talk! With the newer Rbk jerseys, it’s actually more effective to pull the front of the neckline up. The stretchy material works to your advantage.

    You didn’t hear that from me, though. The hockey fight I had in the outdoor league on Tuesday night didn’t happen. ;o)[/quote]

    That is because I grew up in the 70’s and my grandpa was Canadian. He played junior hockey for the Gault Terriers (Hell, Gault doesn’t even exist any more). We use to watch Hockey Night in Canada together and teach me about hockey on the lake.

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 4:46 pm |

    really oregon, you go with a white helmet for this game? oregon is just fucking dumb, case closed.

    GO BUCKS! PLUCK THE DUCKS!!!

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 4:48 pm |

    So the polishing of the green helmet was a *ahem* red herring?

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”369685″]So the polishing of the green helmet was a *ahem* red herring?[/quote]

    I didn’t see it but they could have been props for the ABC broadcast.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”369686″][quote comment=”369685″]So the polishing of the green helmet was a *ahem* red herring?[/quote]

    I didn’t see it but they could have been props for the ABC broadcast.[/quote]
    Oh, they were definitely broadcast props. But wouldn’t you think they’d want their prop helmets to match the ones that were actually being worn?

    I guess you just have to gamble when you’re dealing with the Ducks and ABC/ESPN just rolled craps.

  • KT | January 1, 2010 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”369595″]The [quote comment=”369534″]The game has been played on other dates besides the 1st, most recently 2006.[/quote]
    The Rose Bowl game is always played on Jan. 1st, unless the 1st is on a Sunday, then the game is played the next day.[/quote]

    Rose Bowl games not played on the 1st or the 2nd:

    1/4/2006 Texas vs. USC
    1/3/2002 Miami vs. Nebraska

    It was played on the 2nd of January in 1995, 1989, 1984, 1978, 1967, 1961, 1956, 1950, 1939, 1933, 1928 and 1922.

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 5:18 pm |

    eat that nut duck!

  • Chuck | January 1, 2010 at 5:19 pm |

    Buckeye radio announcers already complaining about the Ducks black on green numbers being hard to read.

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”369690″]Buckeye radio announcers already complaining about the Ducks black on green numbers being hard to read.[/quote]
    The Rose Bowl field is gorgeous even with a corporate logo near the huge center rose logo; The Buckeyes look totally sharp in their regular road whites; Oregon’s jerseys are in shouting range of a school color; Oregon’s pants look like crisp linen; Oregon’s helmets – see Ricko’s comment, but okay….
    But the Ducks wearing those retarded video game comic book slate gray numbers on a green jersey is just not appropriate attire for The GrandDaddy of them all… Just stupid.

  • Robert | January 1, 2010 at 6:06 pm |

    The fact that I was holding my breath in anticipation of the Ducks tells you just how ridiculous their uniforms have become.

    When measured against what they could have worn, today’s selection isn’t all that bad, although I would’ve preferred their jerseys have been the ones with the yellow numbers. If they had been paired with their standard green helmets they would’ve looked pretty sharp.

    Still, for the grandaddy of them all, I would’ve preferred a more traditional (classy) look. Hate the Buckeyes but love their uniforms.

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”369676″]

    There might be a hockey fight right here if he cracks open another one that doesn’t belong to him. LOL[/quote]

    buckets off?

  • JBower | January 1, 2010 at 6:24 pm |

    With all the NCAA Bowl games being played today, you may not realize that there is a hockey game being played today.

    Huh? Nice start to the New Year.nWTF?

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 6:33 pm |

    also…
    tbdbitl in full uniform, the oregon band in casual wear, weak. T’s cheerleaders broke out the classic nut and leaf motif, love it. green paint on a green field for oregon? stupid. fans in lots of gold, the team has none, perfect. Tosu wins this game hands down aesthetically speaking, eat that nut duck.

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 6:39 pm |

    and your coach is in a visor.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 6:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”369678″][quote comment=”369672″]About “traditions”. Can develop pretty quickly. I think it’s safe to say it took only three “Super Bowls” for the game to become an American viewing tradition.[/quote]
    You can say that in hindsight. To me, it’s really pushing the definition of the word to say that something that’s happened two or three times is a tradition. I think you can say it’s becoming a tradition, but to call something traditional after such a small sample size? That’s a stretch.

    What about the Bears’ orange jerseys? They’ve worn them every year around Halloween for the past five seasons. Is that a tradition? To me, it isn’t.[/quote]

    If we’re gonna spot everything a play-by-play guy or color man could have seen more accurately we’ll run out of board space.

    I took it to mean “in the context of the WC” because it’s really hard to believe he intended it any other way.

    He also said the Bruins hadn’t changed their logo thoughout their history.

    Well, we can dissect the crap out that statement, to be sure. But, in layman’s terms, they’ve altered it, or modified it, or updated it..but haven’t really “changed it” in the sense of its basic concept (a “B” as “The Hub” of a spoked wheel). And the layman is who he was talking to. Not us uni geeks.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm |

    Oregon’s sweat panels are lookin’ good, though.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”369694″]With all the NCAA Bowl games being played today, you may not realize that there is a hockey game being played today.

    Huh? Nice start to the New Year.nWTF?[/quote]

    Well, yeah, of course. Because everyone knows the TRUE sports fans, the annointed ones, only watch–or care about–the bowl games on New Year’s Day.

    No, wait, that would make them lousy sport fans cuz they only know what’s going on in one sport.

    (We’re just gonna have to re-think this, that’s all there is to it.)

    eyeroll. wink.

    —Ricko

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 6:50 pm |

    you call that a marching band? this is the rose bowl oregon, that sucked.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 6:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”369700″]you call that a marching band? this is the rose bowl oregon, that sucked.[/quote]

    Don’t like to change to fancy uniforms. Can never remember which pocket they put their doobie in.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”369696″]and your coach is in a visor.[/quote]

    sez the man whose coach is in a sweater vest

    who’s dotting the i?

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 7:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”369702″][quote comment=”369696″]and your coach is in a visor.[/quote]

    sez the man whose coach is in a sweater vest

    who’s dotting the i?[/quote]

    Phil Knight. They told him were gonna spell out “Nike” this time…and he wet himself.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 7:03 pm |

    Mr. Belding welcomes new j.v. football coach…
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 7:08 pm |

    Of course, my buddies and I theorized they could have stuffed this guy (like Trigger), wheeled him out onto the pratice field and the sidelines and won 9 games a year for a couple more seasons.
    http://www.skylinepi...

  • Doug in GA | January 1, 2010 at 7:14 pm |

    [/quote]

    Tim Brando on CBS’ halftime show shouted, “Get some field turf down there in Orlando!”

    I shouted back at the TV, “NO!” I’m loving how this game looks.

    [/quote]

    In addition to the two bowl games, the Citrus Bowl hosted the Florida high school state championship football games this year. That field has had 8 games on it in less than 3 weeks time.

    Oh, and they are putting in Fieldturf after today’s game. It was the only way they could guarantee staying in the FHSAA state title rotation.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 7:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”369706″][/quote]

    Tim Brando on CBS’ halftime show shouted, “Get some field turf down there in Orlando!”

    I shouted back at the TV, “NO!” I’m loving how this game looks.

    [/quote]

    In addition to the two bowl games, the Citrus Bowl hosted the Florida high school state championship football games this year. That field has had 8 games on it in less than 3 weeks time.

    Oh, and they are putting in Fieldturf after today’s game. It was the only way they could guarantee staying in the FHSAA state title rotation.[/quote]

    What? Guys getting dirty playing football?
    That’s so…yesterday.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369697″][quote comment=”369678″][quote comment=”369672″]About “traditions”. Can develop pretty quickly. I think it’s safe to say it took only three “Super Bowls” for the game to become an American viewing tradition.[/quote]
    You can say that in hindsight. To me, it’s really pushing the definition of the word to say that something that’s happened two or three times is a tradition. I think you can say it’s becoming a tradition, but to call something traditional after such a small sample size? That’s a stretch.

    What about the Bears’ orange jerseys? They’ve worn them every year around Halloween for the past five seasons. Is that a tradition? To me, it isn’t.[/quote]

    If we’re gonna spot everything a play-by-play guy or color man could have seen more accurately we’ll run out of board space.

    I took it to mean “in the context of the WC” because it’s really hard to believe he intended it any other way.

    He also said the Bruins hadn’t changed their logo thoughout their history.

    Well, we can dissect the crap out that statement, to be sure. But, in layman’s terms, they’ve altered it, or modified it, or updated it..but haven’t really “changed it” in the sense of its basic concept (a “B” as “The Hub” of a spoked wheel). And the layman is who he was talking to. Not us uni geeks.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    OK Ricko, to-may-to, to-mah-to.

    He said it as they started the post-game handshake. He referred to something that had happened ONCE BEFORE as a “tradition.”

    Was Wrestlemania 2 a tradition on pay-per-view?

    And I have no idea what a statement about the Bruins logo has to do with this conversation.

  • blt | January 1, 2010 at 7:24 pm |

    I’m trying to picture Phil Knight nodding approvingly, thinking to himself “damn they look good,” as the Oregon band makes its national television debut in warm-up suits.

    Are they trying to be ironic?

  • JBower | January 1, 2010 at 7:31 pm |

    JBower said:

    With all the NCAA Bowl games being played today, you may not realize that there is a hockey game being played today.

    Huh? Nice start to the New Year.nWTF?

    Well, yeah, of course. Because everyone knows the TRUE sports fans, the annointed ones, only watch–or care about–the bowl games on New Year’s Day.

    No, wait, that would make them lousy sport fans cuz they only know what’s going on in one sport.

    (We’re just gonna have to re-think this, that’s all there is to it.)

    eyeroll. wink.

    —Ricko

    There was a day when college football ruled New Year’s Day viewing but the BCS fucked that up for good. And go figure who steals the day but of all, Commissioner’s Bettman?

    All the sudden the highest rated and hottest ticket on New Year’s Day is a regular season NHL hockey game. It’s a wonderful thing.

    And of course the uniform design creativity for the Winter Classic is very appealing.

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 7:39 pm |

    and your mascot wears his hat cocked? stupid. oregon is a cluster-fuck.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 7:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”369708″][quote comment=”369697″][quote comment=”369678″][quote comment=”369672″]About “traditions”. Can develop pretty quickly. I think it’s safe to say it took only three “Super Bowls” for the game to become an American viewing tradition.[/quote]
    You can say that in hindsight. To me, it’s really pushing the definition of the word to say that something that’s happened two or three times is a tradition. I think you can say it’s becoming a tradition, but to call something traditional after such a small sample size? That’s a stretch.

    What about the Bears’ orange jerseys? They’ve worn them every year around Halloween for the past five seasons. Is that a tradition? To me, it isn’t.[/quote]

    If we’re gonna spot everything a play-by-play guy or color man could have seen more accurately we’ll run out of board space.

    I took it to mean “in the context of the WC” because it’s really hard to believe he intended it any other way.

    He also said the Bruins hadn’t changed their logo thoughout their history.

    Well, we can dissect the crap out that statement, to be sure. But, in layman’s terms, they’ve altered it, or modified it, or updated it..but haven’t really “changed it” in the sense of its basic concept (a “B” as “The Hub” of a spoked wheel). And the layman is who he was talking to. Not us uni geeks.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    OK Ricko, to-may-to, to-mah-to.

    He said it as they started the post-game handshake. He referred to something that had happened ONCE BEFORE as a “tradition.”

    Was Wrestlemania 2 a tradition on pay-per-view?

    And I have no idea what a statement about the Bruins logo has to do with this conversation.[/quote]

    Had to do with picking apart missteps by announcers. Things they probably could have said better, or more accurately.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”369710″]All the sudden the highest rated and hottest ticket on New Year’s Day is a regular season NHL hockey game. It’s a wonderful thing.[/quote]

    highest rated?

    we’ll see if it even beats the outback bowl

    BUT…the point is for the WC to gain ratings versus last year…and the year before

    NOT to beat college football (although, if the NHL can keep up the mo’, and the NCAA keeps watering down the bowls…it just might some day)

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 8:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”369713″][quote comment=”369710″]All the sudden the highest rated and hottest ticket on New Year’s Day is a regular season NHL hockey game. It’s a wonderful thing.[/quote]

    highest rated?

    we’ll see if it even beats the outback bowl

    BUT…the point is for the WC to gain ratings versus last year…and the year before

    NOT to beat college football (although, if the NHL can keep up the mo’, and the NCAA keeps watering down the bowls…it just might some day)[/quote]

    I think that of today’s games maybe only the Rose Bowl honestly could say it could have sold 300,000 tickets. So, in the context of New Year’s Day and “hottest ticket”, JBower isn’t THAT far from wrong.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”369714″]
    I think that of today’s games maybe only the Rose Bowl honestly could say it could have sold 300,000 tickets. So, in the context of New Year’s Day and “hottest ticket”, JBower isn’t THAT far from wrong.[/quote]

    and you could also say “the rose bowl had 50,000 more fans than the winter classic”

    doesn’t hold water

    i want to see how the WC does against 1) itself from last year and 2) against the college games it went up against

    that’s what i was questioning by “highest rated”

    i don’t think it will be highest rated in its time slot (and certainly not compare to the rose and the orange)…but it’ll be interesting to see those final numbers

  • rpm | January 1, 2010 at 8:14 pm |

    the song is wide left, but i’ll take the wide right.

  • Ricko | January 1, 2010 at 8:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”369715″][quote comment=”369714″]
    I think that of today’s games maybe only the Rose Bowl honestly could say it could have sold 300,000 tickets. So, in the context of New Year’s Day and “hottest ticket”, JBower isn’t THAT far from wrong.[/quote]

    and you could also say “the rose bowl had 50,000 more fans than the winter classic”

    doesn’t hold water

    i want to see how the WC does against 1) itself from last year and 2) against the college games it went up against

    that’s what i was questioning by “highest rated”

    i don’t think it will be highest rated in it’s time slot (and certainly not compare to the rose and the orange)…but it’ll be interesting to see those final numbers[/quote]

    Yeah, highest rated we don’t know about.
    All they’re trying to be is successful counter-programming. That’s quite common in broadcasting.

    So far, they have been.

    I can’t imagine they’re trying to win the time slot. I’m sure they love to, but don’t think that’s even in their thinking. The real issue isn’t how they do compared to the bowls, it’s how they do compared to other NHL telecasts.

    —Ricko

  • concealed78 | January 1, 2010 at 8:19 pm |

    Looks like School Nike is going down in defeat. Death to the Swoosh!

  • Chris | January 1, 2010 at 8:20 pm |

    uhhhh you do know that Ohio State has a swoosh right there on their jersey too, right?

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”369718″]Looks like School Nike is going down in defeat. Death to the Swoosh! to my bowl pool. [/quote]

    Fixed

  • concealed78 | January 1, 2010 at 8:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”369719″]uhhhh you do know that Ohio State has a swoosh right there on their jersey too, right?[/quote]

    Don’t give a shit. Oregon is still *the* Nike School & the shittiest of shitty uniforms.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 8:36 pm |

    Cincinnati in all white.

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 8:38 pm |

    Florida in their regular home uniforms. I don’t like the Cincy all white look.

  • The Hemogoblin | January 1, 2010 at 8:38 pm |

    Fuck.

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 8:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”369693″][quote comment=”369676″]

    There might be a hockey fight right here if he cracks open another one that doesn’t belong to him. LOL[/quote]

    buckets off?[/quote]

    Absolutely. Gloves off first, cage up, helmet off. Depending how the guy lines up (lefty vs. righty), throw up a block arm and reach for the neckline. Pull collar of jersey up, and unleash hell.

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 8:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”369715″][quote comment=”369714″]
    I think that of today’s games maybe only the Rose Bowl honestly could say it could have sold 300,000 tickets. So, in the context of New Year’s Day and “hottest ticket”, JBower isn’t THAT far from wrong.[/quote]

    and you could also say “the rose bowl had 50,000 more fans than the winter classic”

    doesn’t hold water

    i want to see how the WC does against 1) itself from last year and 2) against the college games it went up against

    that’s what i was questioning by “highest rated”

    i don’t think it will be highest rated in its time slot (and certainly not compare to the rose and the orange)…but it’ll be interesting to see those final numbers[/quote]

    Ok, let’s be realistic.

    1) Football will always out-rate hockey in the USA. It doesn’t matter if it’s pop warner – more people in the USA will watch football.

    2) Success, from a marketing standpoint, can be viewed a number of ways. And from everything reported on CBC and NBC, this event was as good as the event in Chicago last year, if not better.

  • Bill Fenbers | January 1, 2010 at 8:43 pm |

    Anyone know why the Cincinnati football bearcats have white football helmets tonight??

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”369694″]With all the NCAA Bowl games being played today, you may not realize that there is a hockey game being played today.

    Huh? Nice start to the New Year.nWTF?[/quote]

    Hockey is the red-headed stepchild of the four professional leagues in the USA.

    If the next sentence below that one doesn’t indicate that the first sentence was filled with sarcasm, I’m not sure what I have to do to paint a better picture.

    Maybe these? “insert relevant text here”

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 8:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”369723″]Florida in their regular home uniforms. I don’t like the Cincy all white look.[/quote]
    Cincinnati fails with the ridiculous bumper sticker syndrome. Random slashy things running from just next to the front numerals and wrapping around each side of the jersey. And then some red piping across the shoulder pads – which appears to be nearly the only red on the whole uni.

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 8:55 pm |

    A happy Buckeye fan here in NE Ohio. I enjoyed the Rose Bowl of course very much. Visually a great game to watch too.

    I had a blast working with my Ducks counterpart Michael Princip on the Rose History and Bucks and Ducks uniforms.

    I love to learn about all college football teams histories and uniform histories. I learned a lot from Michael’s great work.

  • M.Princip | January 1, 2010 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”369724″]Fuck.[/quote]

    Yep!

    Anyway, congrats Buckeye fans. They definitely were the better team today. Played an exceptional game along the line of scrimmage, on both sides of the ball. Only way I’ll feel better about this game is if the Seahawks end up getting one of those Buckeye lineman. heh heh…… Jim Heacock did a fantastic job prepairng his D for this one, hats off to him.

    Had a great time working on the Ducktracker this season, and working with Larry Bodnovich and Phil Hecken on the Rose Bowl articles/site.

    I still absolutely love that white helmet. That ultra dark green facemask is so nice, and mixes very well with all the other elements that makeup that helmet. Finally, I don’t care what they say, that week 3 uni combination was the best! :o)

  • Chris | January 1, 2010 at 8:59 pm |

    Ask Oregon or Arizona if changing to a white helmet for the bowl game is a good move!

    Cincinnati is going down!

  • Chris | January 1, 2010 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”369721″][quote comment=”369719″]uhhhh you do know that Ohio State has a swoosh right there on their jersey too, right?[/quote]

    Don’t give a shit. Oregon is still *the* Nike School & the shittiest of shitty uniforms.[/quote]

    Well, obviously you don’t give a shit because your ranting is pointless. Oregon lost, but Ohio State won. They are both Nike schools. Oh, poor Nike, poor poor Nike. They have to make Ohio State Rose Bowl victory t-shirts and sell them for 25 bucks instead of making Oregon Rose Bowl victory t-shirts and sell those for 25 bucks. Nike wins either way, and you as a Nike hater lose again. Phil Knight personally wants Oregon to win…Nike as a company doesn’t care. They’re still raking in the $$$$

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 9:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”369727″]Anyone know why the Cincinnati football bearcats have white football helmets tonight??[/quote]

    Because they can.

    That’s all I can figure…

    Man, these last two bowls have looked so blah. The first three were a real feast for the eyes.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”369730″]A happy Buckeye fan here in NE Ohio. I enjoyed the Rose Bowl of course very much. Visually a great game to watch too.

    I had a blast working with my Ducks counterpart Michael Princip on the Rose History and Bucks and Ducks uniforms.

    I love to learn about all college football teams histories and uniform histories. I learned a lot from Michael’s great work.[/quote]

    Congrats, Larry.

    I think you spoiled me with all the great old pictures you shared. After seeing how this game COULD have looked, I was quite disappointed in how it DID look.

    For instance, THESE http://lh5.ggpht.com... my friend, are gray helmets and pants. What the Bucks wear now is more like a light silver. From a distance they almost look white.

    As for the Webfoots, anything they’ve worn in previous Rose Bowls would have been better than today’s mess. Nah, we don’t need to see your jersey numbers clearly, Oregon.

    /eyeroll

    Once again, though, great job by you and Michael today.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 9:18 pm |

    Remember the Favre-Cam from the Vikings/Packers game?

    Tonight FOX says, “We’re Calling It Tebow-Cam.”

    /another eyeroll

  • Chris | January 1, 2010 at 9:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”369736″]Remember the Favre-Cam from the Vikings/Packers game?

    Tonight FOX says, “We’re Calling It Tebow-Cam.”

    /another eyeroll[/quote]

    I think I died a little inside when I heard them promoting the Tebow-cam.

    Ridiculous

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 9:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”369718″]Looks like School Nike is going down in defeat. Death to the Swoosh![/quote]

    uh oh

    sounds like a bad movie

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 9:26 pm |

    Haven’t had anything to drink tonight, but I’m feeling silly. You know what I’d like to see?

    The Bucks should design a Tressel tribute uni. Picture this: http://espn-i.starwa... A red jersey with white sleeves (with a little faux necktie peeking out at the collar, of course), charcoal gray pants and a gray helmet. Heck, you could even paint the left half of the facemask black to resemble Tressel’s headset. Whaddaya think?

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=\”369735\”][quote comment=\”369730\”]A happy Buckeye fan here in NE Ohio. I enjoyed the Rose Bowl of course very much. Visually a great game to watch too.

    I had a blast working with my Ducks counterpart Michael Princip on the Rose History and Bucks and Ducks uniforms.

    I love to learn about all college football teams histories and uniform histories. I learned a lot from Michael\’s great work.[/quote]

    Congrats, Larry.

    I think you spoiled me with all the great old pictures you shared. After seeing how this game COULD have looked, I was quite disappointed in how it DID look.

    For instance, THESE http://lh5.ggpht.com... my friend, are gray helmets and pants. What the Bucks wear now is more like a light silver. From a distance they almost look white.

    As for the Webfoots, anything they\’ve worn in previous Rose Bowls would have been better than today\’s mess. Nah, we don\’t need to see your jersey numbers clearly, Oregon.

    /eyeroll

    Once again, though, great job by you and Michael today.[/quote]

    Thanks Jim

    I know Michael also told me he thought those old gray helmets were sharp. I agree. Very simple gray helmets and the red stripe stands out well on them.

    Glad you enjoyed the old pictures and history. I know I had fun working on it and sharing it.

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 9:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”369732″]Ask Oregon or Arizona if changing to a white helmet for the bowl game is a good move!

    Cincinnati is going down![/quote]

    HAHA I think I joked with Phil in an email about what if the Buckeyes wore the Michigan game helmets. I was thinking the white helmet switch had not been working well.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”369712″]
    Had to do with picking apart missteps by announcers. Things they probably could have said better, or more accurately.[/quote]
    I wasn’t picking apart a misstep. I was pointing out an announcer resorting to hyperbole in an attempt to turn a nice touch from last year’s game that was being repeated this year into something truly momentous.

  • M.Princip | January 1, 2010 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”369740″][quote comment=\”369735\”][quote comment=\”369730\”]A happy Buckeye fan here in NE Ohio. I enjoyed the Rose Bowl of course very much. Visually a great game to watch too.

    I had a blast working with my Ducks counterpart Michael Princip on the Rose History and Bucks and Ducks uniforms.

    I love to learn about all college football teams histories and uniform histories. I learned a lot from Michael\’s great work.[/quote]

    Congrats, Larry.

    I think you spoiled me with all the great old pictures you shared. After seeing how this game COULD have looked, I was quite disappointed in how it DID look.

    For instance, THESE http://lh5.ggpht.com... my friend, are gray helmets and pants. What the Bucks wear now is more like a light silver. From a distance they almost look white.

    As for the Webfoots, anything they\’ve worn in previous Rose Bowls would have been better than today\’s mess. Nah, we don\’t need to see your jersey numbers clearly, Oregon.

    /eyeroll

    Once again, though, great job by you and Michael today.[/quote]

    Thanks Jim

    I know Michael also told me he thought those old gray helmets were sharp. I agree. Very simple gray helmets and the red stripe stands out well on them.

    Glad you enjoyed the old pictures and history. I know I had fun working on it and sharing it.[/quote]

    Those old flat gray helmets were sharp indeed. They should have worn those instead of the white lids for the Pro Combat set.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”369707″][quote comment=”369706″]
    In addition to the two bowl games, the Citrus Bowl hosted the Florida high school state championship football games this year. That field has had 8 games on it in less than 3 weeks time.

    Oh, and they are putting in Fieldturf after today’s game. It was the only way they could guarantee staying in the FHSAA state title rotation.[/quote]

    What? Guys getting dirty playing football?
    That’s so…yesterday.[/quote]

    Man, that’s just wrong. In my opinion, the mud http://espn-i.starwa... made this great-looking matchup even better.

    Not every game has to be a track meet played on a pristine surface. It’s good to see the “mudders” who can stay on their feet in slippery conditions. There’s room in football for the slow guys with good moves, too.

  • M.Princip | January 1, 2010 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”369744″][quote comment=”369707″][quote comment=”369706″]
    In addition to the two bowl games, the Citrus Bowl hosted the Florida high school state championship football games this year. That field has had 8 games on it in less than 3 weeks time.

    Oh, and they are putting in Fieldturf after today’s game. It was the only way they could guarantee staying in the FHSAA state title rotation.[/quote]

    What? Guys getting dirty playing football?
    That’s so…yesterday.[/quote]

    Man, that’s just wrong. In my opinion, the mud http://espn-i.starwa... made this great-looking matchup even better.

    Not every game has to be a track meet played on a pristine surface. It’s good to see the “mudders” who can stay on their feet in slippery conditions. There’s room in football for the slow guys with good moves, too.[/quote]

    Exactly what I thought as well Jim.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 9:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”369739″]Haven’t had anything to drink tonight, but I’m feeling silly. You know what I’d like to see?

    The Bucks should design a Tressel tribute uni. Picture this: http://espn-i.starwa... A red jersey with white sleeves (with a little faux necktie peeking out at the collar, of course), charcoal gray pants and a gray helmet. Heck, you could even paint the left half of the facemask black to resemble Tressel’s headset. Whaddaya think?[/quote]
    Sounds like it might make a good minor league hockey promotional gimmick.

    Las Vegas Wranglers, I’m looking at you…

  • Robert | January 1, 2010 at 9:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”369739″]Haven’t had anything to drink tonight, but I’m feeling silly. You know what I’d like to see?

    The Bucks should design a Tressel tribute uni. Picture this: http://espn-i.starwa... A red jersey with white sleeves (with a little faux necktie peeking out at the collar, of course), charcoal gray pants and a gray helmet. Heck, you could even paint the left half of the facemask black to resemble Tressel’s headset. Whaddaya think?[/quote]

    Can we start calling teams by their names again? For all of the lambasting about modern uniforms what I really miss is watching the Buckeyes, Longhorns, Cornhuskers, Seminoles, Hurricanes, and Boilermakers as opposed to the Bucks, Horns, Huskers, Noles, Canes, and Boilers.

    Or is that too quaint?

  • LI Phil | January 1, 2010 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”369739″]Haven’t had anything to drink tonight, but I’m feeling silly. You know what I’d like to see?

    The Bucks should design a Tressel tribute uni. Whaddaya think?[/quote]

    i think you should stop smoking crack

  • aflfan | January 1, 2010 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”369745″][quote comment=”369744″][quote comment=”369707″][quote comment=”369706″]
    In addition to the two bowl games, the Citrus Bowl hosted the Florida high school state championship football games this year. That field has had 8 games on it in less than 3 weeks time.

    Oh, and they are putting in Fieldturf after today’s game. It was the only way they could guarantee staying in the FHSAA state title rotation.[/quote]

    What? Guys getting dirty playing football?
    That’s so…yesterday.[/quote]

    Man, that’s just wrong. In my opinion, the mud http://espn-i.starwa... made this great-looking matchup even better.

    Not every game has to be a track meet played on a pristine surface. It’s good to see the “mudders” who can stay on their feet in slippery conditions. There’s room in football for the slow guys with good moves, too.[/quote]

    Exactly what I thought as well Jim.[/quote]

    While I agree that playing a game in the mud is great to watch. I understand the thought behind the Citrus Bowl moving to field turf after this year. They said in the Miami/Wisconsin game that they had resodded the field after the FHSAA games. That can get expensive to resod for two bowl games. Also if that is part of the deal to keep in the rotation for the Championship games they don’t have much of a choice then.

    Also for the first round on the high school football playoffs in Michigan in October several games were moved to field turf fields after three inches of rain fell in two days making regular fields unplayable.

  • Adam | January 1, 2010 at 10:03 pm |

    I swear the UC helmet stripe is on backwards…the pointy side seems to be facing the wrong way.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 10:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”369747″][quote comment=”369739″]Haven’t had anything to drink tonight, but I’m feeling silly. You know what I’d like to see?

    The Bucks should design a Tressel tribute uni. Picture this: http://espn-i.starwa... A red jersey with white sleeves (with a little faux necktie peeking out at the collar, of course), charcoal gray pants and a gray helmet. Heck, you could even paint the left half of the facemask black to resemble Tressel’s headset. Whaddaya think?[/quote]

    Can we start calling teams by their names again? For all of the lambasting about modern uniforms what I really miss is watching the Buckeyes, Longhorns, Cornhuskers, Seminoles, Hurricanes, and Boilermakers as opposed to the Bucks, Horns, Huskers, Noles, Canes, and Boilers.

    Or is that too quaint?[/quote]

    Nah, that’s not too quaint. When speaking I almost always use the full names. It’s just when I write that I sometimes shorten them. At least I haven’t resorted to text-style writing (bckys, lnghrns, crnhskrs, etc.) yet. And probably never will…

  • Andrew | January 1, 2010 at 10:15 pm |

    This was a great win tonight. As a longtime Ohio State fan, I was fed up with losing in big games. Glad the streak ended tonight.

    Pryor played well, glad Tressel let him play a lot more than most of the season. Hope next year we’ll be in the BCS title game.

  • LarryB | January 1, 2010 at 10:20 pm |

    Maybe Cincy should switch to the black helmets at halftime.

  • Teebz | January 1, 2010 at 10:20 pm |

    I think I found out where JTH and RPM have been all day.

    They curled right after they attended the Winter Classic game. LOL

  • David | January 1, 2010 at 10:30 pm |

    I could have sworn I saw a highlight where Cincy had black helmets on tonight. Did they come out in black helmets and then switch white ones right before the game started? Need confirmation on this.

    Anyways, I’m liking the white helmets a lot, but their uniforms are still too all over the place for me.

  • Kaptain K | January 1, 2010 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”369593″]Northwestern QB’s performance becoming Keenumesque.[/quote]

    Yes, the NU QB’s name is Kafka…

    today he looked more like Kant.

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 10:58 pm |

    Brian Billick’s critiquing Tebow’s throwing style now. Sounds a lot like the stuff people said about a young Randall Cunningham.

    Things kinda worked out for Randall, didn’t they?

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 11:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”369757″][quote comment=”369593″]Northwestern QB’s performance becoming Keenumesque.[/quote]

    Yes, the NU QB’s name is Kafka…

    today he looked more like Kant.[/quote]

    :)

  • leon | January 1, 2010 at 11:06 pm |

    LI
    nice job of timing your last comment

  • Taxman | January 1, 2010 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”369749″][quote comment=”369745″][quote comment=”369744″][quote comment=”369707″][quote comment=”369706″]
    In addition to the two bowl games, the Citrus Bowl hosted the Florida high school state championship football games this year. That field has had 8 games on it in less than 3 weeks time.

    Oh, and they are putting in Fieldturf after today’s game. It was the only way they could guarantee staying in the FHSAA state title rotation.[/quote]

    What? Guys getting dirty playing football?
    That’s so…yesterday.[/quote]

    Man, that’s just wrong. In my opinion, the mud http://espn-i.starwa... made this great-looking matchup even better.

    Not every game has to be a track meet played on a pristine surface. It’s good to see the “mudders” who can stay on their feet in slippery conditions. There’s room in football for the slow guys with good moves, too.[/quote]

    Exactly what I thought as well Jim.[/quote]

    While I agree that playing a game in the mud is great to watch. I understand the thought behind the Citrus Bowl moving to field turf after this year. They said in the Miami/Wisconsin game that they had resodded the field after the FHSAA games. That can get expensive to resod for two bowl games. Also if that is part of the deal to keep in the rotation for the Championship games they don’t have much of a choice then.

    Also for the first round on the high school football playoffs in Michigan in October several games were moved to field turf fields after three inches of rain fell in two days making regular fields unplayable.[/quote]
    Yup, the reality is that Field Turf is a cost effective solution for a football field that takes on heavy weather and/or heavy play. I love a good mud bowl as well as the next guy, but the fake stuff allows for state final quadruple headers and such. I know in MD they play a bunch of state finals on the same weekend at M&T Bank Stadium.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”369754″]I think I found out where JTH and RPM have been all day.

    They curled right after they attended the Winter Classic game. LOL[/quote]
    Yeah. Y’know, I found the concessions at Fenway a bit lacking. There was one item in particular I kept asking for, but nobody could direct me to a vendor.

  • Dan | January 1, 2010 at 11:39 pm |

    I like the All-White Cincy look. It\’s definitley different but it looks a lot better than Oregon\’s white helmet.

    Speaking of Oregon, today’s look was by far the worst combo of the year by Oregon. The white helmets looked like crap and the white pants looked like shitty practice gear. They should have gone green helmet, yellow jerseys, green pants. Great look IMO

    BTW TCU will be wearing their pro-combat jerseys for the Fiesta Bowl

  • JimV19 | January 1, 2010 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”369763″]BTW TCU will be wearing their pro-combat jerseys for the Fiesta Bowl[/quote]

    And yet the Frogs will still look better than Boise State. Man, I miss these unis: http://media.2news.t...

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 11:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”369751″][quote comment=”369747″][quote comment=”369739″]Haven’t had anything to drink tonight, but I’m feeling silly. You know what I’d like to see?

    The Bucks should design a Tressel tribute uni. Picture this: http://espn-i.starwa... A red jersey with white sleeves (with a little faux necktie peeking out at the collar, of course), charcoal gray pants and a gray helmet. Heck, you could even paint the left half of the facemask black to resemble Tressel’s headset. Whaddaya think?[/quote]

    Can we start calling teams by their names again? For all of the lambasting about modern uniforms what I really miss is watching the Buckeyes, Longhorns, Cornhuskers, Seminoles, Hurricanes, and Boilermakers as opposed to the Bucks, Horns, Huskers, Noles, Canes, and Boilers.

    Or is that too quaint?[/quote]

    Nah, that’s not too quaint. When speaking I almost always use the full names. It’s just when I write that I sometimes shorten them. At least I haven’t resorted to text-style writing (bckys, lnghrns, crnhskrs, etc.) yet. And probably never will…[/quote]
    Quaint, schmaint. Shortening official nicknames isn’t exactly a new concept.

  • Nick | January 1, 2010 at 11:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”369663″][quote comment=”369661″]I believe I read that PSU’s original colors were pink and black, right?[/quote]

    that was a one-game alt for breast cancer awareness

    /very rare jersey[/quote]

    MERRY NEW YEAR, UWers !!!

    I have actually read many accounts, in many different places, that hold that Penn State did wear Black and Pink uniforms at the begining of their athletic competition, and that those original unis faded over time and many washings to be a shade of Navy Blue and Dull White, and that those were the colors were eventually adopted by the program.

  • JTH | January 1, 2010 at 11:59 pm |

    Hey, Saints fans. Want a uni for your Build-a-Bear? Looks like it’s monochrome for you.

    Bills fans: looks better than the real thing, eh?

    What?

  • JTH | January 2, 2010 at 12:06 am |
  • Nick | January 2, 2010 at 12:12 am |

    Oregon Unis …

    I still would like to see he Carbon Helmet & Pants, and Yellow jerseys,

    And at least once on the road the Carbon Helmets & Pants, White jerseys with Carbon numerals – channeling the 1970 Raiders.

    The Carbon color on the Oregon unis are dark enough to sufficiently contrast much lighter OSU Silver/Grey.

    That said, the Oregon unis are, to quote an early 1990s PL, a true uniform carnival!!!

  • LI Phil | January 2, 2010 at 12:23 am |

    [quote comment=”369760″]LI
    nice job of timing your last comment[/quote]

    what?

  • The Hemogoblin | January 2, 2010 at 12:33 am |

    [quote comment=\”369769\”]Oregon Unis …

    I still would like to see he Carbon Helmet & Pants, and Yellow jerseys,

    And at least once on the road the Carbon Helmets & Pants, White jerseys with Carbon numerals – channeling the 1970 Raiders.

    The Carbon color on the Oregon unis are dark enough to sufficiently contrast much lighter OSU Silver/Grey.

    That said, the Oregon unis are, to quote an early 1990s PL, a true uniform carnival!!![/quote]

    The pants are Steel, not Carbon.

    The helmets are Carbon.

  • Hibbsy | January 2, 2010 at 2:09 am |

    the next time any team wears green, it better be for Thin Lizzy. The best irish band ever.

  • Chris | January 2, 2010 at 3:36 am |

    [quote comment=”369771″][quote comment=\”369769\”]Oregon Unis …

    I still would like to see he Carbon Helmet & Pants, and Yellow jerseys,

    And at least once on the road the Carbon Helmets & Pants, White jerseys with Carbon numerals – channeling the 1970 Raiders.

    The Carbon color on the Oregon unis are dark enough to sufficiently contrast much lighter OSU Silver/Grey.

    That said, the Oregon unis are, to quote an early 1990s PL, a true uniform carnival!!![/quote]

    The pants are Steel, not Carbon.

    The helmets are Carbon.[/quote]

    The pants are steel, not carbon? Says who? Is that official or just the uniwatch titles for the colors?

  • Jeff P | January 2, 2010 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”369773″][quote comment=”369771″][quote comment=\”369769\”]Oregon Unis …

    I still would like to see he Carbon Helmet & Pants, and Yellow jerseys,

    And at least once on the road the Carbon Helmets & Pants, White jerseys with Carbon numerals – channeling the 1970 Raiders.

    The Carbon color on the Oregon unis are dark enough to sufficiently contrast much lighter OSU Silver/Grey.

    That said, the Oregon unis are, to quote an early 1990s PL, a true uniform carnival!!![/quote]

    The pants are Steel, not Carbon.

    The helmets are Carbon.[/quote]

    The pants are steel, not carbon? Says who? Is that official or just the uniwatch titles for the colors?[/quote]

    Those are the official names for them. The carbon has a carbon fiber pattern if you see it close up.