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“The Rose Goes In The Front, Big Guy”

the rose goes in the front

By Phil Hecken & Rick Pearson

Classic line, classic movie. Said by Crash Davis to Nuke Laloosh in “Bull Durham.” Great baseball movie, nice unis. Some sports movies just strike a chord in us, and we can recite them perhaps better than we can the Pledge of Allegiance. But just how well do we know these movies? Let’s find out.

As we close my 2009 posting out, it’s time for the annual end of year Uni Watch uni quiz. I’ll be joined by the man who’s seen every one of these movies, sometimes twice, sometimes more, and the man who brings you Benchies every weekend, Rick Pearson, aka, “Ricko”. We collaborated on this set of 21 sports movie quotes and the uniforms from those movies — some you will know, some you may not — but can you reconcile the UNIFORMS from those movies with those classic (and not so classic) quotes? Here’s Rick:

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Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year. Some to watch over and over and over. And many of us give, and get, DVD’s as gifts (I, for example, got all 66 Hopalong Cassidy films in a nifty Hoppy lunchbox from my daughter).

Many times, though, those gifts are classic sports films or histories such as When It Was A Game or Ken Burns’s Baseball.

So, we figured we’d play “Match The Movie Line To The Movie Uniform” — but with a twist — on the last day before most everyone heads back to work.

Simple enough, right? But, instead of just a google-able “movie quote”, you need to know the unis worn in the films in question. And that’s all the clue you’re gonna get.

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Thanks Rick. So there you go. We’ll give you the quote, and you get to guess the movie — by matching it to the “uni clue” listed separately. So, if Quote 1 matches up with Uni Clue F, then you’d say “1-F”.

So get a pencil and a piece of paper — first ID the movie by quote. Then, in the second section, find the still from that movie — and match them up. At the end of this section, we’ll give you one answer, just to get you started. Probably somewhere around mid-day, depending on how things are going, we’ll even give you a list of the movies we’re looking for. And then, we’ll post the answers at 8:00 pm Eastern, so be sure to check back at that time.

Ready? GO!

QUOTES:

1. I am choosing to win this fucking game.

2. All the way up with a red hot poker. I can play anywhere now.

3. Say, boy – does you do this constantly?
“No, suh. I does it all the time.”

4. Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun.

5. Hey, that’s weird. No college given, no high school. It just says he’s been a resident of the state of Maryland for the last two years and two months, and that he likes to embroider.

6. I play hockey and I fornicate, ’cause those are the two most fun things to do in cold weather.

7. I know everything there is to know about the greatest game ever invented.

8. Just so you know, we really suck.
“Hey, I’ll decide who sucks around here.”

9. Every night, every morning…and sometimes during arithmetic.

10. See! I told you I broke his fuckin’ neck!

11. Holy shit. Talk about your all time backfires.

12. We don’t have a cow. We have a bull.

13. Kiss my Armani ass!

14. Those Yankees are real turds.

15. You trying to say Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?

16. You do speak Canadian, don’t you?

17. You’re not God, Nickerson. You’re just a typing teacher.

18. This young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country’s refusal to accept him.

19. I’m playing for Rio Grande Short-Haul Trucking, Briggs and Brown Sanitation, First State Bank of Salome, Woody’s Smokehouse…

20. Charlie, here comes the deuce.

21. I guess some mistakes you never stop paying for.

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Now match the movie quotes up with the…

UNI CLUES

A. Uni Clue A

B. Uni Clue B

C. Uni Clue C

D. Uni Clue D

E. Uni Clue E

F. Uni Clue F

G. Uni Clue G

H. Uni Clue H

I. Uni Clue I

J. Uni Clue J

K. Uni Clue K

L. Uni Clue L

M. Uni Clue M

N. Uni Clue N

O. Uni Clue O

P. Uni Clue P

Q. Uni Clue Q

R. Uni Clue R

S. Uni Clue S

T. Uni Clue T

U. Uni Clue U

And now that you’ve seen all the “Uni Clues” Here’s a full page grouping of them all, for easier reference. Happy hunting.

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Well there you have it. Not so easy is it now. But you uniform geniuses should be able to narrow it down, via the process of elimination, until you get a perfect score. We’ll even give you one toughie to help narrow it down.

Here’s your first answer: 3-E [The quote “Say, boy – does you do this constantly?” … “No, suh. I does it all the time.” — is spoken by Leon Carter (James Earl Jones) and Esquire Joe Callaway (Stan Shaw) after the latter bowled over the former at home plate, and comes from the movie, “BINGO LONG’S TRAVELING ALL-STARS & MOTOR KINGS”]. Technically, you don’t need to know the name of the movie [but bonus points if you do, plus the character(s) and actor(s) who spoke the quote(s)].

Play along, see how you do. We’ll have some hints in the afternoon hour and the full rundown for you later tonight.

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Exclamation PointIn case you missed it, Paul has a project for us. Here’s Mr. Lukas to explain:

Research Project: I’m compiling a list of the most unusual uni-related moments of the past decade. This can include typos, players wearing the wrong uni, teams being forced to improvise when their uniforms are lost or stolen, torn uniforms, broken equipment, etc. — anything out of the ordinary. I already have a pretty good list, but I’d welcome your nominations (esp. from earlier in the decade), so feel free to chime in. Thanks.

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nfl uni tweaksOur next round of NFL uniform tweaks/revisions
and concepts is upon us.

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Our first submission comes from Santonio Williams,
who has a modern update for the Colts:

Hello,

I chose to change the Colts uni design. My main reason for doing this is not because I’m a Colts fan (or hater)…just because I’ve always found their uniform to be kind of boring, I know alot of people consider this design to be a classic, and to a certain extent, I agree, I love the simplicity (I’m also a fan of white on white uni combinations), but at the same time, the fact that there’s only two colors makes it kind of boring, so I made a few minor adjustments.

First, I noticed that alot of the official sideline merchandise for the Colts this year has included black elements, I personally like this addition, so I’ve added black to the color palette.

I also tried to make the overall uni feel a bit more contemporary by adding the horseshoe logo to the front (similar to the Giants), I also changed the typeface for the numbers, it’s a pretty similar style, but I rounded the numerals out a bit and added the black and white borders to make the numbers appear less “flat”. I also did the same thing to the team wordmark. I then changed the collar of the jersey to blue (I just feel it makes it a little more interesting without ruining the overall “classic feel”) I also made the stripes on the helmet doubled to match the stripes on the jersey and pants (it has always bothered me that the Colts have one stripe on their helmet, and two on everything else).

Finally I changed the stripes from blue to black on the jersey, pants, and helmet, I also made the face mask black aswell.

I think overall this update retains the classic feel, but gives the team a more modern (or perhaps just less boring) look.

I also redesigned the Colts Home uniforms, I think this one more closesly follows the elements of the current home Colts unis…although one touch I am particularly fond of is the slight black outlines on the shoulder stripes.

Thanks for taking the time to check out my design,

Santino Williams

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Our next submission comes from Mark Meeks, and this is a new one for me. It’s for the Panthers. I’ll let Mark explain:

I saw Brad Keppler’s suggestion for the Tweaked Panthers uniform in the 12/12 blog and it reminded me of these. I’ve got some Kenner Starting Lineup figures from the late 90’s of Panthers players. All the ones in white jerseys are wearing black pants like Brad suggested. I guess Kenner was working off a uniform prototype or something as the Panthers have never worn black pants. No excuse for Kenner though, Kevin Greene didn’t join the team until their second year (’96) and he’s shown in black pants too. Sorry for the low-res pic. My iphone was all I had handy.

Thanks for the great work.

Mark Meeks

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Up next is Andrew Greenwood, who you may famously remember for his Bills tweak, is back and is tackling the Jaguars:

Hey Phil,

Took a me a while to finish this one, but I think it’s decent for what it is. Redesign of the Jaguars. They need to dump the teal. Went with orange, a tan/sand and deep chocolate. Sorta based on the new Anaheim Ducks colors, but at least much more realistic for a Jaguar. That blue tongue always weirded me out. Helps to balance out some colors in the AFC South, I think. Colts, Titans, and Texans all use blue, so getting away from that is good for the Jags as well.

Andrew W. Greenwood

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Our last submission today comes from Caleb Borchers, who would love to tweak the Lions:

Phil,

I’m not great with graphics, but I have been playing around a bit with the Detroit Lions. I was born in Detroit, and thus blessed/cursed to be a fan of that sad franchise. The current set seems a little stuck in between tradition and a revamp. I would like to see them go backwards, or forwards. I’ve attached a couple of tweaks I’ve tried. Mostly I’ve played with the color scheme to integrate black more thoroughly. I don’t so much like the black, but if they are going to use it they shouldn’t just toss it on randomly. I wouldn’t mind a new logo, but that’s beyond my capabilities.

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That will do it for this next round of uni tweaks. If you have a team or teams who you think can use a change, whether it be a tweak or a wholescale reworking, I’d love to hear from you.

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benchies headerWhat happens when Ricko forgets his color markers and instead of giving us a full color Benchies, he helps me with a post? Here’s Ricko:

Six frames, no color? Ummm…let’s just say it snowed. A lot. No…wait…even better, the Benchies are having a white out. Yeah, that’s it, they’re having a white out.

And with, enjoy your Sunday Benchies.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: It may be football season, but there’s always action in the hot stove league, so today, we’re jumping back to the diamond. I’m sure some of you will know this game from sight — hell, some of you may have even been there. Say what you will, and blame a certain Notre Dame High School For Boys grad for making this game necessary, but the real goat will always be Alex Gonzalez. Nuff hint? Guess The Game. Please link to you answer. And, as always, if you enjoy the game, please send me some new scoreboards! Drop me a line. Thanks!

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rose bowl rose inlineIn the final few days before the Rose Bowl, I’m again joined by tOSU’s biggest fan Larry Bodnovich and the man who’s been bringing you the Ducktracker all season long, Michael Princip, in a weekly look at some fun Ohio State University and University of Oregon factoids, uni histories and other fun stuff. Larry, of course, will be tackling the Buckeyes, and Michael will handle the Ducks.

Per custom, Larry will be starting off the show, so here’s Mr. Bodnovich:

In the 1960’s Ohio State had more helmet changes than any decade ever. Starting with the gray padded helmets in 1960. The padding did not go all the way to the back in 1961. The silver and red padding in 1962-63. Slight changes the following years. 1966-67 went with red helmets. 1967 first Buckeyes used. 1968 silver helmet used with a couple of gray ones.

Ohio State played Duke September 26, 1959. Duke had the padded helmets. 3 weeks later vs Purdue at least 1 Buckeye helmet had padding. See the 1st b&w pic. Woody Hayes later adopted those in 1960.

The helmets changed a little each year. Helmet Hut describes the manufacturers for the next few years.

1961 Helmet. 1960 and 61 helmets were mostly all gray with red padding. 1962 on were mostly silver with red padding.

1964 or 65 helmet.

1966 went to the red helmet.

1967 Buckeyes first used as award decal on red helmet.

1968 went to the silver helmet. Jim Otis still used a padded one

A handful of Buckeyes wore gray helmets in 1968.

Here is the 1960’s Buckeye helmet album.

Thank you Larry. Once again, great stuff.

We next move on to Michael. As always, Michael’s contribution to this portion of the column isn’t so much his words, but his expertise and creativity in updating his “Oregon Rose Bowl” history page. He’s updated that page even further with some wonderful vintage Ducks/Webfoots uniform history.

1920s Last Worn Blue & Yellow Jersey: Former UO archivist, Keith Richard, speculates that this jersey in the archives is from the 1920s. It would have been from one of the last years before the Ducks switched to green and yellow by vote of the student body, which wanted the team to abide by the official school colors.

1899 Oregon Ducks/Webfoots: The Ducks went 3-2-1, including a 38-0 win over the Beavers. Eugene fans will recognize this photo as the one used for the Billboard near Ferry Street bridge (2003).

1915 Ducks – Orville Monteith: Orville played from 1914 to 1916, when the Ducks still wore blue and yellow uniforms. In 1916 the Ducks went 7-0-1, beating Pennsylvania 14-0 in the Rose Bowl.

1945 Ducks – Yellow Eared ‘8 Strap’ Style Helmet: In 1939, it was mandatory that all NCAA football players be required to wear helmets. Thus, the creative color schemes of yellow and green upon the Duck heads began. Here, Bob Reynolds (left) and Robert Koch (right) wear the ones that started it all, the eight strap style leather helmet with green primarily throughout and yellow ears.

1948: Ducks Green Leather/White & Yellow(@ times)Hard Cap

I’ve updated the Duck’s Rose Bowl page.

And thank you Michael! Be sure to spend a good amount of time checking out that Rose Bowl Uniform history. Mr. Princip has added a lot of updates and factoids.

Truly outstanding work again, gentlemen. Be sure to join us on New Year’s Day, when Larry and Michael will be joining me for a full-blown Bucks vs. Ducks Rose Bowl Feature.

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And on that note, I conclude my 2009 postings. Thanks to Paul and all of those with whom I have collaborated over the past 52 weekends, and to all you fine readers for your support. It’s been a fun ride so far. I’ll be back with you all as we ring in the New Year of 2010.

Everybody have a great Sunday and a fantastic remainder of 2009. Cheers!

 

182 comments to “The Rose Goes In The Front, Big Guy”

  • Josh | December 27, 2009 at 8:25 am |

    Guess the Scoreboard:

    http://www.baseball-...

    Also, I loved the Pitt-UNC matchup, but Marshall’s light green pants stole the day yesterday

  • Chad | December 27, 2009 at 8:55 am |

    you need to fix “required to where helmets”

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko

  • Blinco | December 27, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    Going with a black helmet for Carolina is one of the best NFL Uni Tweaks i’ve seen on here.

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.

  • Juke Early | December 27, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    1. Nice touch having a Tim Robbins theme after he & Susan Sarandon just split.

    2. Gee – I think the Vette looks different from the first ones in the Fifties thru now, they got longer for awhile – you want them to look like what?

    3. I guess it is a mistake being born a Bronx Yankee fan – do people think we’re supposed to turn our back on our home town team? do they do that?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Said this yesterday, and it bears repeating.
    In all the big four (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL) only the Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Jets and Colts wear one-color-and-white. While some may find that “boring” that’s a unique distinction that probably deserves preserving.

    Unless, of course, we think riding the current bandwagon is the only way to a great uniform.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    Okay, here’s four of the movie titles, if that helps…

    The Sandlot
    North Dallas Forty
    Hoosiers
    Happy Gilmore

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?

  • Hibbsy | December 27, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”368682″][quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]
    Change is fine, if it’s for the better. With uniforms, it typically isn’t. It has mostly lead to bad designs. Really bad.

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”368670″]you need to fix “required to where helmets”[/quote]

    Fixed it over on my side.

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”368682″]there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]

    when it’s change for the sake of change, no

    when ‘technology’ (in the case of a sports car) changes, then yes, and form should follow function

    when ‘technology’ (in the case of a shirt) changes…really…aren’t we just reinventing the wheel? are the jags and g-men really playing soooo much better in their fancy new jerseys? or the teams outfitted in the pro combat gear? no…it’s not new and improved, it’s just new…and they’re feeding everyone a line about how much better the technology is…which people are buying hook, line and sinker

    that’s change for the sake of change

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”368684″][quote comment=”368670″]you need to fix “required to where helmets”[/quote]

    Fixed it over on my side.[/quote]

    fixed in the main article (sorry mike)

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    My all time favorite football movies:

    1) Paper Lion

    2) The Waterboy

    3) Rudy

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    And you keep making YOUR same point, The Jeff: NFL teams should dress like high school teams from West Virginia coal mining towns because that’s what happens to be “in” right now.

    Change isn’t always bad. If a team is going through a long period of sucking, and has a history of changing its unis, yeah, change things up. Might breathe some new life and energy into things…and stimulate fan interest, too.

    But, last time I checked the Colts were one of the NFL’s truly storied franchises with few uni changes (some farting around with silver and royal pants, but that’s about it), had won arguably THE benchmark game in NFL history in the unis they still wear today and currently are, lemme see, oh yeah, unbeaten…

    So, thinking they’re due for a change is right up there with musing about “What if the Romulans and Klingons switched styles?”

    And before you go “You’re a stodgy old fart” on me, remember I have repeatedly said I LIKE the Broncos unis, and the Rams, and the Seahawks, and the original Ravens, and the Patriots, and the Eagles black-over-green, and West Virginia’s monochromes, and the Gophers all-athletic gold…etc., etc., etc.

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”368683″][quote comment=”368682″][quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]
    Change is fine, if it’s for the better. With uniforms, it typically isn’t. It has mostly lead to bad designs. Really bad.[/quote]

    That all depends on perspective doesn’t it? The Bengals switch to tiger stripes in 1981 was good. Their switch to the current uniform, not so much. I thought the Bucs switch to pewter was a huge improvement over the orange uniforms. The Bills current uniforms suck, we all seem to agree on that – but if they wear them for another 25 years do they suddenly become “classic”?. The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”368686″][quote comment=”368684″][quote comment=”368670″]you need to fix “required to where helmets”[/quote]

    Fixed it over on my side.[/quote]

    fixed in the main article (sorry mike)[/quote]

    It’s cool Phil, I just realized I also screwed this up; “and Robert Koch(right) where the ones that started it all……”

    Also fixed to: wear the ones that started it all…..

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”368690″][quote comment=”368686″][quote comment=”368684″][quote comment=”368670″]you need to fix “required to where helmets”[/quote]

    Fixed it over on my side.[/quote]

    fixed in the main article (sorry mike)[/quote]

    It’s cool Phil, I just realized I also screwed this up; “and Robert Koch(right) where the ones that started it all……”

    Also fixed to: wear the ones that started it all…..[/quote]

    ok…got it

  • Jet | December 27, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    Santino, nice job on the Colts tweak, only part I didn’t care for was the small horseshoe on the shirt, kinda disturbs the negative space between collar and numbers and almost looks like a necklace or something hanging off the collar…

  • Jet | December 27, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”368679″]Said this yesterday, and it bears repeating.
    In all the big four (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL) only the Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Jets and Colts wear one-color-and-white. While some may find that “boring” that’s a unique distinction that probably deserves preserving.

    Unless, of course, we think riding the current bandwagon is the only way to a great uniform.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No coincidence that these are four of my favorite unis. I’m a big hockey fan and Detroit has always been my favorite jersey with Toronto not far behind. The Wings still manage to look good despite the hideous Reebok template, while the Leafs Reebok version took a big nosedive when they removed any kind of waist striping, looks too much like a practice jersey now…

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    The Jeff said…

    “The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.”

    You saying I said that? Never said that, never would. Not if the team has sustained a certain excellence (Colts, Red Wings, ‘Bama, Michigan, Penn State and others).

    A uni that says “consistent winner” is a good thing. Now the Indians, for example, would have been stupid to stay the same for the las 20 or 30 years. That would have been a uni that says “perenially struggling”.

    The Raiders, on the oher hand, are sort of on the cusp these days. They either need to get better fast, or they probably could stand a change…but I think their fans would revolt (having been to a Raider game, I’m almost sure of it, lol).

    —Ricko

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    Shazam! Archie Griffin rocked that Dungard 120 look:

    http://www.helmethut...

    Seahawks had a few that wore that model:

    http://www.greenglar...

    http://www.greenglar...

    http://www.greenglar...

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    also, that superb pic.: http://www.illustrat...

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”368694″]The Jeff said…

    “The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.”

    You saying I said that? Never said that, never would. Not if the team has sustained a certain excellence (Colts, Red Wings, ‘Bama, Michigan, Penn State and others).

    A uni that says “consistent winner” is a good thing. Now the Indians, for example, would have been stupid to stay the same for the las 20 or 30 years. That would have been a uni that says “perenially struggling”.

    The Raiders, on the oher hand, are sort of on the cusp these days. They either need to get better fast, or they probably could stand a change…but I think their fans would revolt (having been to a Raider game, I’m almost sure of it, lol).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ll admit the Colts don’t need a change now since they are at the top of the league. But that doesn’t mean we can’t talk about tweaking them. Manning isn’t going to play forever, and we must admit that the shoulder “loops” aren’t exactly working very well on the new stretchy jerseys.

    As for the Raiders, as long as the colors remained silver & black, I don’t think there’d be any more revolting than usual. The fans already use variants of the logo involving skulls instead of the clean cut pirate guy.

  • Jet | December 27, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    The Hockey News’ “Greatest Jerseys of All Time” special issue was mentioned here recently.

    Great publication, but man did they drop the ball on one item. Page 93 has “defunct jerseys” and they show the Colorado Rockies, Minnesota North Stars, Quebec Nordiques and Atlanta Flames – all of whom merely moved the franchise elsewhere. How could they not include a true defunct team like the Oakland Seals/California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons franchise and any of their great jerseys? Or the forerunner to the Rockies/Devils, the Kansas City Scouts?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    “we must admit that the shoulder ‘loops’ aren’t exactly working very well on the new stretchy jerseys.”

    You’re buying the company line there.
    Computers devise the patterns, they could design a pattern to accomodate the loops, if they were told to do so.

    We know it’s possible; Nike did it for Cornell in ’08. Granted, not the same wonder fabric, but Reebok ought to be able to figure out such complex “problem”. If, indeed, they really wanted to. But then we couldn’t tell it was their new, modern jersey, now could we. So it’s marketing, pure and simple…not a technological impossibility.
    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | December 27, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”368698″]The Hockey News’ “Greatest Jerseys of All Time” special issue was mentioned here recently.

    Great publication, but man did they drop the ball on one item. Page 93 has “defunct jerseys” and they show the Colorado Rockies, Minnesota North Stars, Quebec Nordiques and Atlanta Flames – all of whom merely moved the franchise elsewhere. How could they not include a true defunct team like the Oakland Seals/California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons franchise and any of their great jerseys? Or the forerunner to the Rockies/Devils, the Kansas City Scouts?[/quote]

    The Seals/Barons merged with the North Stars who became the Dallas Stars, and the Scouts/Rockies became the Devils.

    Technically, neither team is defunct either.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”368700″][quote comment=”368698″]The Hockey News’ “Greatest Jerseys of All Time” special issue was mentioned here recently.

    Great publication, but man did they drop the ball on one item. Page 93 has “defunct jerseys” and they show the Colorado Rockies, Minnesota North Stars, Quebec Nordiques and Atlanta Flames – all of whom merely moved the franchise elsewhere. How could they not include a true defunct team like the Oakland Seals/California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons franchise and any of their great jerseys? Or the forerunner to the Rockies/Devils, the Kansas City Scouts?[/quote]

    The Seals/Barons merged with the North Stars who became the Dallas Stars, and the Scouts/Rockies became the Devils.

    Technically, neither team is defunct either.[/quote]

    Lotta knotty problems in that discussion, yes. Technically, I supppose, the teams ARE defunct, but the franchises remain. I think it’s fair to call the St. Louis Browns “defunct”. Likewise the North Stars or Buffalo Braves, or, yes, two different Washington Senators.

    The franchise is the business. The teams are what take the field, ice, court, et al.

    But, then again, the “Dodgers” and “Giants” have remained. And “Whalers” repped two different cities.

    So what is defunct? Changing nickname without moving. Moving but keeping nickname? Moving AND changing nickhame? Is conFOOSing, no?

    But it does seem like the Hockey News was a tad inconsistent with their definition.

    —Ricko

  • Hibbsy | December 27, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”368689″][quote comment=”368683″][quote comment=”368682″][quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]
    Change is fine, if it’s for the better. With uniforms, it typically isn’t. It has mostly lead to bad designs. Really bad.[/quote]

    That all depends on perspective doesn’t it? The Bengals switch to tiger stripes in 1981 was good. Their switch to the current uniform, not so much. I thought the Bucs switch to pewter was a huge improvement over the orange uniforms. The Bills current uniforms suck, we all seem to agree on that – but if they wear them for another 25 years do they suddenly become “classic”?. The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.[/quote]
    Of course it’s all perspective. And opinion, and taste. I said change IS good when it is for the better. There have been a ton of good changes made throughout uni history. I agree with the interesting “upgrade” that the Bengals made in 1981, but the moves made by teams in recent years… ugh.

  • mtjaws | December 27, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”368669″]Guess the Scoreboard:

    http://www.baseball-...

    Also, I loved the Pitt-UNC matchup, but Marshall’s light green pants stole the day yesterday[/quote]

    What an awesome game for the Scoreboard quiz. That was a memorable game/series, and then the World Series right after it was perfect too.

  • Thomas Clark | December 27, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”368699″]”we must admit that the shoulder ‘loops’ aren’t exactly working very well on the new stretchy jerseys.”

    You’re buying the company line there.
    Computers devise the patterns, they could design a pattern to accomodate the loops, if they were told to do so.

    We know it’s possible; Nike did it for Cornell in ’08. Granted, not the same wonder fabric, but Reebok ought to be able to figure out such complex “problem”. If, indeed, they really wanted to. But then we couldn’t tell it was their new, modern jersey, now could we. So it’s marketing, pure and simple…not a technological impossibility.
    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’m not buying that logic just yet. Mostly because Reebok is being very quiet about it. That probably means that all the kinks aren’t worked out and this isn’t a “look our different jerseys” type ploy. It could end up that way, but at this point I’d say it’s not. Also, because there isn’t a lot of information about the new cuts maybe they haven’t been able to figure out the seam patterns yet, maybe there’s wear patterns on the fabric that are different than other fabrics, or maybe the stretch causes stress in different places. There are a plethora of things that could be the reason for the craptacular seam patterns. Don’t damn them because it doesn’t fall in line with previous types…wait until the information is out then damn them all to hades!

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    Well I am a stodgy old fart – or at least 5 years older than Urban Meyer.

    Ricko is right – the manufacturers can make the Colts loops work if they wanted too.

    Meanwhile – for an old fart, I do have a lot of little kid in me when it comes to imagining and conjuring uniform re-designs. All in fun, and one of the big reasons I keep coming back here. The concepts and tweaks are the sweet candy of this blog, along with classic color photos of the sports I love. A nice break from discussing the minutiae of green dots, chin strap brands and discussions of logo creep and the evil corporations.
    Hell, Phil devoted a whole blog to messing with the classics. For Ricko, the effect is to reiterate that the classics don’t need messing with – for The Jeff and others its a glimpse of what could be.

    As for the Irsays… they merely need to clean up their look anhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3038/2595510120_5a91175b1f_b.jpgd class it up like so:

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    Sorry – Colts tweak:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Kenny Jacobson | December 27, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Maybe we ought to mandate certain untouchable uniforms. Yanks, Habs, Colts, etc…

    I KNOW, I KNOW… “well how come MY team’s unis aren’t untouchable!?” etc, etc, etc…

  • Kenny Jacobson | December 27, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”368702″][quote comment=”368689″][quote comment=”368683″][quote comment=”368682″][quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]
    Change is fine, if it’s for the better. With uniforms, it typically isn’t. It has mostly lead to bad designs. Really bad.[/quote]

    That all depends on perspective doesn’t it? The Bengals switch to tiger stripes in 1981 was good. Their switch to the current uniform, not so much. I thought the Bucs switch to pewter was a huge improvement over the orange uniforms. The Bills current uniforms suck, we all seem to agree on that – but if they wear them for another 25 years do they suddenly become “classic”?. The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.[/quote]
    Of course it’s all perspective. And opinion, and taste. I said change IS good when it is for the better. There have been a ton of good changes made throughout uni history. I agree with the interesting “upgrade” that the Bengals made in 1981, but the moves made by teams in recent years… ugh.[/quote]
    I think the thing that’s being overlooked is the fact that once you change a team’s look you are disconnecting it from eras of that team’s past. In other words… if you are a Colts fan, and your father was a Colts fan, and HIS father was a Colts fan… then all three of you can sit down to a Colts game and watch it and think “those are my Colts”… whereas a Bills fan might sit down and say “well gee, that doesn’t look like the Jim Kelly Bills” or ” that doesn’t look like the OJ Bills”… the connection to a team’s past is lost. And you cannot measure that in jerseys sales from the team store.

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”368706″]Sorry – Colts tweak:
    http://farm4.static....

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

    been looking for that for 2 weeks!

  • aflfan | December 27, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”368708″][quote comment=”368702″][quote comment=”368689″][quote comment=”368683″][quote comment=”368682″][quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]
    Change is fine, if it’s for the better. With uniforms, it typically isn’t. It has mostly lead to bad designs. Really bad.[/quote]

    That all depends on perspective doesn’t it? The Bengals switch to tiger stripes in 1981 was good. Their switch to the current uniform, not so much. I thought the Bucs switch to pewter was a huge improvement over the orange uniforms. The Bills current uniforms suck, we all seem to agree on that – but if they wear them for another 25 years do they suddenly become “classic”?. The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.[/quote]
    Of course it’s all perspective. And opinion, and taste. I said change IS good when it is for the better. There have been a ton of good changes made throughout uni history. I agree with the interesting “upgrade” that the Bengals made in 1981, but the moves made by teams in recent years… ugh.[/quote]
    I think the thing that’s being overlooked is the fact that once you change a team’s look you are disconnecting it from eras of that team’s past. In other words… if you are a Colts fan, and your father was a Colts fan, and HIS father was a Colts fan… then all three of you can sit down to a Colts game and watch it and think “those are my Colts”… whereas a Bills fan might sit down and say “well gee, that doesn’t look like the Jim Kelly Bills” or ” that doesn’t look like the OJ Bills”… the connection to a team’s past is lost. And you cannot measure that in jerseys sales from the team store.[/quote]

    I think your theory works better with the other teams then the Colts because (my belief here) the father and fathers fathers that were Colts fans are now Ravens fans because they will not even Colts on the scoreboard in Baltimore. They put INDY on the scoreboard and announce them as the Indianapolis Professional Football Team.

    Now the Wings, Habs the father thing works well.

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”368708″]
    I think the thing that’s being overlooked is the fact that once you change a team’s look you are disconnecting it from eras of that team’s past. In other words… if you are a Colts fan, and your father was a Colts fan, and HIS father was a Colts fan… then all three of you can sit down to a Colts game and watch it and think “those are my Colts”… whereas a Bills fan might sit down and say “well gee, that doesn’t look like the Jim Kelly Bills” or ” that doesn’t look like the OJ Bills”… the connection to a team’s past is lost. And you cannot measure that in jerseys sales from the team store.[/quote]

    the opposite side of the spectrum, of course, is the ducks

    i don’t mind the fact that they never wear the same uniform twice — that makes them unique — but i don’t want any other teams doing that…loses the “unique” factor then and just becomes stupid

    great analogy with the bills and colts…look at the footage from the 58 NFL championship (greatest game ever played)…except for the ridiculous jersey cuts now, that game looks identical to a colts/giants game played 51 years later

    there’s a simple beauty to that…one we stodgy old farts can appreciate

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”368708″][quote comment=”368702″][quote comment=”368689″][quote comment=”368683″][quote comment=”368682″][quote comment=”368680″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

    Guess you guys were sitting down, huh. Cuz the central point of the Corvette remark went right over your heads.

    Of course, I should by know that if you make an analogy here it has to be about six grafs long just to cover all the possible exceptions, abberations and pickable nits that someone will find to claim it’s invalid.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No Ricko, it didn’t go over my head. You were making the same point you’re always trying to make: Change for the sake of change is bad.

    The thing is, there really never is a good reason to change, is there?[/quote]
    Change is fine, if it’s for the better. With uniforms, it typically isn’t. It has mostly lead to bad designs. Really bad.[/quote]

    That all depends on perspective doesn’t it? The Bengals switch to tiger stripes in 1981 was good. Their switch to the current uniform, not so much. I thought the Bucs switch to pewter was a huge improvement over the orange uniforms. The Bills current uniforms suck, we all seem to agree on that – but if they wear them for another 25 years do they suddenly become “classic”?. The idea that a team shouldn’t change just because they’ve worn the same thing for 30 years is just… ugh.[/quote]
    Of course it’s all perspective. And opinion, and taste. I said change IS good when it is for the better. There have been a ton of good changes made throughout uni history. I agree with the interesting “upgrade” that the Bengals made in 1981, but the moves made by teams in recent years… ugh.[/quote]
    I think the thing that’s being overlooked is the fact that once you change a team’s look you are disconnecting it from eras of that team’s past. In other words… if you are a Colts fan, and your father was a Colts fan, and HIS father was a Colts fan… then all three of you can sit down to a Colts game and watch it and think “those are my Colts”… whereas a Bills fan might sit down and say “well gee, that doesn’t look like the Jim Kelly Bills” or ” that doesn’t look like the OJ Bills”… the connection to a team’s past is lost. And you cannot measure that in jerseys sales from the team store.[/quote]

    Precisely.
    NFL history isn’t measured by comparing the different versions of Madden.

    —Ricko

  • Kenny Jacobson | December 27, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”368698″]The Hockey News’ “Greatest Jerseys of All Time” special issue was mentioned here recently.

    Great publication, but man did they drop the ball on one item. Page 93 has “defunct jerseys” and they show the Colorado Rockies, Minnesota North Stars, Quebec Nordiques and Atlanta Flames – all of whom merely moved the franchise elsewhere. How could they not include a true defunct team like the Oakland Seals/California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons franchise and any of their great jerseys? Or the forerunner to the Rockies/Devils, the Kansas City Scouts?[/quote]
    Well if they called it “Jerseys From Defunct Teams” that’s one thing but if they called it “Defunct Jerseys” that’s something else. In other words, the team is still in business but they jersey is no longer used. Haven’t seen the piece, just surmising.

  • Jet | December 27, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”368700″]

    The Seals/Barons merged with the North Stars who became the Dallas Stars, and the Scouts/Rockies became the Devils.

    Technically, neither team is defunct either.[/quote]

    Yeah, I mentioned the Scouts/Rockies became the Devils, weren’t saying that they were defunct. But I’d hardly call the Barons/N.Stars scenario a “merger” as it didn’t create a new entity for either team; the Barons essentially folded and Minnesota claimed a handful of their players, from taking a quick look at the roster: Macadam, Fidler, Jean Potvin, Greg Smith and goalies Meloche and Edwards.

  • Kenny Jacobson | December 27, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”368711″][quote comment=”368708″]
    I think the thing that’s being overlooked is the fact that once you change a team’s look you are disconnecting it from eras of that team’s past. In other words… if you are a Colts fan, and your father was a Colts fan, and HIS father was a Colts fan… then all three of you can sit down to a Colts game and watch it and think “those are my Colts”… whereas a Bills fan might sit down and say “well gee, that doesn’t look like the Jim Kelly Bills” or ” that doesn’t look like the OJ Bills”… the connection to a team’s past is lost. And you cannot measure that in jerseys sales from the team store.[/quote]

    the opposite side of the spectrum, of course, is the ducks

    i don’t mind the fact that they never wear the same uniform twice — that makes them unique — but i don’t want any other teams doing that…loses the “unique” factor then and just becomes stupid

    great analogy with the bills and colts…look at the footage from the 58 NFL championship (greatest game ever played)…except for the ridiculous jersey cuts now, that game looks identical to a colts/giants game played 51 years later

    there’s a simple beauty to that…one we stodgy old farts can appreciate[/quote]
    And frankly, the “ridiculous jersey cuts” and what-not that we dissect ad nauseum aren’t necessarily something the average fan would even notice. He would probably see a picture of Peyton next to one of Johnny U and say “yep… same uniforms”. WE notice the differences but we’ve already established the fact that we are NOT average fans.

  • Jet | December 27, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”368713″]
    Well if they called it “Jerseys From Defunct Teams” that’s one thing but if they called it “Defunct Jerseys” that’s something else. In other words, the team is still in business but they jersey is no longer used. Haven’t seen the piece, just surmising.[/quote]

    I wasn’t as concerned with the semantics of it as I was that my favorite team’s jerseys weren’t included!! (Seals/Barons)…. ;)

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    “I think your theory works better with the other teams then the Colts because (my belief here) the father and fathers fathers that were Colts fans are now Ravens fans because they will not even Colts on the scoreboard in Baltimore.”

    There aren’t Colts fans in other cities?
    (Oh, I get your point, yes, but many teams have generated allegiances far beyond their geography)

    —Ricko

  • Jet | December 27, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”368705″]Well I am a stodgy old fart – or at least 5 years older than Urban Meyer.
    [/quote]

    As old as Urban Shocker?? ;)

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    Yeah, let’s not get started on the idea of “generations of Colts fans”.
    We had a divorce issue in 1984 – it was in all the papers.
    Love Johnny U, Spats, and all the other Hall of Famers; worship the uniforms. Indy has the name and the uni’s now.
    I’m over it eniugh now to at least appreciate Manning, Dungy and the fact that the younger Irsay doesn’t mess too much with a classic uniform.

  • interlockingtc | December 27, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    I don’t think it’s featured in the quiz, but my favorite sports related movie of all time: “Fear Strikes Out,” 1957, Directed by Robert Mulligan, starring Anthony Perkins and Karl Malden.

    http://contribute.ch...

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”368718″][quote comment=”368705″]Well I am a stodgy old fart – or at least 5 years older than Urban Meyer.
    [/quote]

    As old as Urban Shocker?? ;)[/quote]
    Not that old.

    Urban Shocker – sounds like a move one would make with a coed in a Gainsville dorm room.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    Here’s a list of all the films in today’s quiz.
    (And you CAN post your results here in comments, y’know).

    The Natural
    Bull Durham
    Major League
    The Bad News Bears
    The Sandlot
    Angels in the Outfield
    Bingo Long’s Traveling All-Stars & Motor Kings
    North Dallas Forty
    All The Right Moves
    Any Given Sunday
    Semi-Tough
    The Replacements
    Longest Yard
    Hoosiers
    One-On-One
    Slap Shot
    The Mighty Ducks
    Mystery, Alaska
    Happy Gilmore
    Kingpin
    Tin Cup

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”368722″]Here’s a list of all the films in today’s quiz.
    (And you CAN post your results here in comments, y’know).

    The Natural
    Bull Durham
    Major League
    The Bad News Bears
    The Sandlot
    Angels in the Outfield
    Bingo Long’s Traveling All-Stars & Motor Kings
    North Dallas Forty
    All The Right Moves
    Any Given Sunday
    Semi-Tough
    The Replacements
    Longest Yard
    Hoosiers
    One-On-One
    Slap Shot
    The Mighty Ducks
    Mystery, Alaska
    Happy Gilmore
    Kingpin
    Tin Cup

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sorry, meant to include the “all in one place” link, too. Make it mechanically easier.
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”368712″]NFL history isn’t measured by comparing the different versions of Madden.[/quote]

    post of the week!

  • Kenny Jacobson | December 27, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”368719″]Yeah, let’s not get started on the idea of “generations of Colts fans”.
    We had a divorce issue in 1984 – it was in all the papers.
    Love Johnny U, Spats, and all the other Hall of Famers; worship the uniforms. Indy has the name and the uni’s now.
    I’m over it eniugh now to at least appreciate Manning, Dungy and the fact that the younger Irsay doesn’t mess too much with a classic uniform.[/quote]
    The point wasn’t the Colts themselves, it was the idea of keeping a uniform through different generations.

  • concealed78 | December 27, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    “Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.

  • FormerDirtDart | December 27, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    And the Saints have decided to wear black today. At least the have some white in their socks

  • Thomas Clark | December 27, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    Really glad to see my Seahawks realize they have some fantastic jerseys by dumping that monochrome look and going color/white and white/color more often.

  • aflfan | December 27, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    The Steelers have their throwbacks on with the yellow helmets today.

  • FormerDirtDart | December 27, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    Damn you Andrew Greenwood, now I can’t help but notice that teal Jaguar tongue. I freaking live in Jacksonville, how is it I never noticed it before? One more reason to hate them now

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”368729″]Really glad to see my Seahawks realize they have some fantastic jerseys by dumping that monochrome look and going color/white and white/color more often.[/quote]

    GO SEAHAWKS!!!

    (g-men are counting on you)

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    …and the Chiefs are wearing all white :(

  • concealed78 | December 27, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]

    Kinda hard to judge unis if you stick to the radio broadcasts, though, init? ;)

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]

    I hear ya. I have my favorite movies, but not very many. Hate everything being put out now – except “The Blind Side”.
    Most of my all-time favorites are from NFL Films.

  • FormerDirtDart | December 27, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]
    Damn, someone needs to don a cardigan, and go outside to yell at some kids running a corner route across the front lawn

  • =bg= | December 27, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    Meh. Cowboys jersey I got for Christmas—on its way back to NFLshop.com. One, it smelled AWFUL. I hung it outside all day Christmas day to air it out, didn’t work too well. Plus the body was way to gauzy, almost transparent. It was a Staubach throwback. Wanted that for several years, too. Oh well. The guy down the street says he works for Mitchell & Ness. Maybe better luck there. Cowboys @ DC tonite- I despise the Skins and Dan Snyder.

    HOWBOUTDEMCOWBOYS.

  • interlockingtc | December 27, 2009 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”368737″][quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]
    Damn, someone needs to don a cardigan, and go outside to yell at some kids running a corner route across the front lawn[/quote]

    concealed78 may defy conventional holiday spirit, but he comes up with some of the most sublime uni concepts I’ve ever seen.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”368738″]Meh. Cowboys jersey I got for Christmas—on its way back to NFLshop.com. One, it smelled AWFUL. I hung it outside all day Christmas day to air it out, didn’t work too well. Plus the body was way to gauzy, almost transparent. It was a Staubach throwback. Wanted that for several years, too. Oh well. The guy down the street says he works for Mitchell & Ness. Maybe better luck there. Cowboys @ DC tonite- I despise the Skins and Dan Snyder.

    HOWBOUTDEMCOWBOYS.[/quote]

    Redskins? Now there’s a team that, given their decade-long Daniel-driven debacle, needs to (uni-wise) either go back to their Super Bowl era look…meaning white shoes and no, repeat no, monochrome and no leotard looks…or start over altogether.

    But, please, don’t crap out and go BFBS. Too easy, and WAY too trite. Although, coming to the table 10 years late would be just about their speed these days.

    And I LIKE Redskins…going back to Eddie LeBaron, for pete’s sake.

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    Anybody hear the rumor that Iowa may wear all black vs Georgia Tech?

  • concealed78 | December 27, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”368739″][quote comment=”368737″][quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]
    Damn, someone needs to don a cardigan, and go outside to yell at some kids running a corner route across the front lawn[/quote]

    concealed78 may defy conventional holiday spirit, but he comes up with some of the most sublime uni concepts I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

    Yeah, speaking of, our old Scout board has vanished! I’m actually in the process of making a White Sox uniform post-1994 Okkonen-style project thanks to a lot of old images being added to the ‘net. I’m seeing stuff I totally forgot about. And btw TC, I finally ended up snagging two authentic New Era 1973-’79 & 1980-’84 Padres caps at reasonable ebay prices, and both were squeaky clean despite being 25-30+ years old themselves. That was a 20-year project that finally ended.

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    Looking at the uni movies, I kinda know the movies. The quotes uh not so much.

    Ricko got all 66 Hopalong Cassidy films. I know i watched some of those when I was a very young kid. I may have had pjs with Hop on them too.

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”368735″][quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]

    Kinda hard to judge unis if you stick to the radio broadcasts, though, init? ;)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Depends on the announcer. Actually, in Cleveland (don’t know if they still do it, ’cause I can’t listen to those guys too much) they would describe the colors and details of the teams’ unis. It was even sponsored by Cintas Uniforms.

    That reminds me – on Christmas Eve I was driving to my parents’ house when I saw a van with UNIFORM as the license plate. Turned out to be for a uniform supply store in Cuyahoga Falls. Wish I could’ve gotten a picture, but there wasn’t a chance to stop and I don’t think my phone camera was good enough to take the shot.

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    well…can’t count on the seahawks or the skins…and it’s looking very gloomy in east rutherford right now

    /not the way to say goodbye boys
    //you started 5-0? really?

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    I failed today’s quiz big time. Only saw five of the movies and only knew one quote.

    Anyway, Santino, I’m glad I got to see your Colts tweak, but I’d stick with what they have.

    Andrew, I think the Jags idea is better without the orange, but I’d wear your uni (liked your Bills tweak, too).

    Caleb, the idea of the blue helmet with silver lion intrigues me, but save the black for the Panthers.

    Speaking of the Panthers, I remember those Starting Lineup figures. Rae Carruth, Kevin Greene and Kerry Collins – what wildly diverging paths y’all have taken.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”368743″]Looking at the uni movies, I kinda know the movies. The quotes uh not so much.

    Ricko got all 66 Hopalong Cassidy films. I know i watched some of those when I was a very young kid. I may have had pjs with Hop on them too.[/quote]

    My favorite uni-related line ever in a sports movie?
    SLAP SHOT, one of the Hanson Brothers:

    “We need some f—king Downy in these f—king jerseys!”

    It just doesn’t get a whole lot better than that. lol

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    Phil, Ricko, Larry and Michael, great job today.

    Those 60s Buckeyes, no respect for tradition, huh? ;) I kid, but actually a lot of schools we consider “untouchables” have tinkered quite a bit with their unis. There aren’t that many teams where grandpa, dad and son can sit down to a game and say, “Yep, they look just like they did when I was there.”

    I like those ’48 Ducks helmets. http://www.greenglar... They remind me of one of my favorite D-2 unis, Saint Anselm: http://athletics.ans...

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    JimV19 said…

    “…but save the black for the Panthers.”

    Panthers could carve out something of a unique place in NFL unis simply by either…

    1. Going to black helmets and losing the blue jerseys, or…
    2. Going to blue helmets and losing the black jerseys.

    That way the silver pants at home and white on the road would still work just fine.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    With regard to Ohio State tinkering with unis there for a while in ’60s…

    Football technology changed far more between about 1950 and 1965 than any other period in the game’s history, most specifically with helmets, faceguards and padding. That meant a lot of messing about with headgear by a lot of teams during that era.

    Why? One word.

    Plastic.

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”368750″]JimV19 said…

    “…but save the black for the Panthers.”

    Panthers could carve out something of a unique place in NFL unis simply by either…

    1. Going to black helmets and losing the blue jerseys, or…
    2. Going to blue helmets and losing the black jerseys.

    That way the silver pants at home and white on the road would still work just fine.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Yes – Carolina Blue helmets for the Panthers. It would be all theirs. Like it.

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”368750″]JimV19 said…

    “…but save the black for the Panthers.”

    Panthers could carve out something of a unique place in NFL unis simply by either…

    1. Going to black helmets and losing the blue jerseys, or…
    2. Going to blue helmets and losing the black jerseys.

    That way the silver pants at home and white on the road would still work just fine.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think you got that mixed up.

    Black helmet, black jersey, silver pants = 90’s Falcons.

    Blue helmet, blue jersey, silver pants = Giants in pastels

    Unique would be a black helmet with a blue jersey, or a blue helmet & black jersey, both with the silver pants of course.

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    Thanks JimV19. When I thought about it,I was suprised at how many changes Ohio State did make in the late 1950’s-60’s.

    Ricko got it right in there was a lot of tinkering overall in the 50’s and 60’s

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 2:58 pm |

    One of my all time favorite football movies is “The Freshman” with Harold Lloyd. A silent movie with obviously more sight gags than memorable lines.

    “Horsefeathers” is a favorite too.When I was a kid and watching the old Marx Brothers or Threes Stooges and Lil Rascals and even Popeye football scenes all planted that seed of interest I have in old football uniforms,pictures,film clips.

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”368746″]well…can’t count on the seahawks or the skins…and it’s looking very gloomy in east rutherford right now

    /not the way to say goodbye boys
    //you started 5-0? really?[/quote]

    The Seahawks are sucking on a level I haven’t seen since Tom Flores was the coach, early 90s.

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”368749″]Phil, Ricko, Larry and Michael, great job today.

    Those 60s Buckeyes, no respect for tradition, huh? ;) I kid, but actually a lot of schools we consider “untouchables” have tinkered quite a bit with their unis. There aren’t that many teams where grandpa, dad and son can sit down to a game and say, “Yep, they look just like they did when I was there.”

    I like those ’48 Ducks helmets. http://www.greenglar... They remind me of one of my favorite D-2 unis, Saint Anselm: http://athletics.ans...

    Wow, that Saint Anselm helmet is very unique. Love it!

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”368752″]
    Yes – Carolina Blue helmets for the Panthers. It would be all theirs. Like it.[/quote]

    so long as they ditch (entirely) the black jerseys and silver pants…

    here ya go

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”368753″][quote comment=”368750″]JimV19 said…

    “…but save the black for the Panthers.”

    Panthers could carve out something of a unique place in NFL unis simply by either…

    1. Going to black helmets and losing the blue jerseys, or…
    2. Going to blue helmets and losing the black jerseys.

    That way the silver pants at home and white on the road would still work just fine.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think you got that mixed up.

    Black helmet, black jersey, silver pants = 90’s Falcons.

    Blue helmet, blue jersey, silver pants = Giants in pastels

    Unique would be a black helmet with a blue jersey, or a blue helmet & black jersey, both with the silver pants of course.[/quote]

    Panthers’ blue isn’t Giants’ blue at all, any more than Bears’ blue is Giants’ blue. And I’d say having red or not having it is a prominent visual difference.

    Falcons also have a red jersey (see today’s highlights); I was suggesting Panthers stick to only black…and I’m also pretty sure the ’90s Falcons aren’t playing anymore. And again, red is huge visual difference.

    Was thinking that the Panther’s style shoulder loops and pants “V” are hugely distinctive, and with their own brand of blue would give them something of a unique look.

    Black helmet, odd-blue jersey, light pants is pretty much the Jags, isn’t it? Because those two teams came into the league one after another didn’t think would be good for them to look too much alike.

    The blue helmet is probably the better idea. With blue jerseys would be sort of like the Lions, but with blue helmets, and those prominent shoulder loops making the difference noticeable almost instantly. Not to mention Carolina’s whole affection for blue thing.

    Blue helmet with black jersey? Yeah, that one would work, definitely.

    Realistically, most anything will look vaguely like something someone else wears, or has worn somewhere along the line. The difference will be in the details.

    I suppose some could say Broncos’ and Bears’ homes are alike, too. Until you look at the details.

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”368757″][quote comment=”368749″]Phil, Ricko, Larry and Michael, great job today.

    Those 60s Buckeyes, no respect for tradition, huh? ;) I kid, but actually a lot of schools we consider “untouchables” have tinkered quite a bit with their unis. There aren’t that many teams where grandpa, dad and son can sit down to a game and say, “Yep, they look just like they did when I was there.”

    I like those ’48 Ducks helmets. http://www.greenglar... They remind me of one of my favorite D-2 unis, Saint Anselm: http://athletics.ans...

    Wow, that Saint Anselm helmet is very unique. Love it![/quote]

    That does have an old school look to it and yes very unique.

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”368759″][quote comment=”368753″][quote comment=”368750″]JimV19 said…

    “…but save the black for the Panthers.”

    Panthers could carve out something of a unique place in NFL unis simply by either…

    1. Going to black helmets and losing the blue jerseys, or…
    2. Going to blue helmets and losing the black jerseys.

    That way the silver pants at home and white on the road would still work just fine.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think you got that mixed up.

    Black helmet, black jersey, silver pants = 90’s Falcons.

    Blue helmet, blue jersey, silver pants = Giants in pastels

    Unique would be a black helmet with a blue jersey, or a blue helmet & black jersey, both with the silver pants of course.[/quote]

    Panthers’ blue isn’t Giants’ blue at all, any more than Bears’ blue is Giants’ blue. And I’d say having red or not having it is a prominent visual difference.

    Falcons also have a red jersey (see today’s highlights); I was suggesting Panthers stick to only black…and I’m also pretty sure the ’90s Falcons aren’t playing anymore. And again, red is huge visual difference.

    Was thinking that the Panther’s style shoulder loops and pants “V” are hugely distinctive, and with their own brand of blue would give them something of a unique look.

    Black helmet, odd-blue jersey, light pants is pretty much the Jags, isn’t it? Because those two teams came into the league one after another didn’t think would be good for them to look too much alike.

    The blue helmet is probably the better idea. With blue jerseys would be sort of like the Lions, but with blue helmets, and those prominent shoulder loops making the difference noticeable almost instantly. Not to mention Carolina’s whole affection for blue thing.

    Blue helmet with black jersey? Yeah, that one would work, definitely.

    Realistically, most anything will look vaguely like something someone else wears, or has worn somewhere along the line. The difference will be in the details.

    I suppose some could say Broncos’ and Bears’ homes are alike, too. Until you look at the details.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well if we’re looking at the details they’re already unique with that particular style of tapered stripe and shoulder looping. :P

    Not sure that the shoulder loops really set them apart from the Lions that much either…

    http://img194.images... (ok so was vs the old Lions jersey, but the new one isn’t that different)

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”368758″][quote comment=”368752″]
    Yes – Carolina Blue helmets for the Panthers. It would be all theirs. Like it.[/quote]

    so long as they ditch (entirely) the black jerseys and silver pants…

    here ya go[/quote]

    With helmet to blue as the only change…
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”368759″]Blue helmet with black jersey? Yeah, that one would work, definitely.
    [/quote]

    no

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    The Jeff said…

    Well if we’re looking at the details they’re already unique with that particular style of tapered stripe and shoulder looping. :P

    “Not sure that the shoulder loops really set them apart from the Lions that much either…

    http://img194.images… (ok so was vs the old Lions jersey, but the new one isn’t that different)”

    Splitting hairs could say black dominates the Panthers version, but what you’re really touching on is my overall thoughts on the Panthers.

    At the beginning, looked some kind of blue-added version of the Raiders. Then added the blue jersey and looked like some goofy version of the Lions.

    So, given that teams are slow to make huge changes…especially to the only uni they’ve ever worn…I figured changing the helmet color might at least separate them from the Raiders and Lions.

    Know what I mean?

    And, again, this with the only change being the blue helmet…
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”368763″][quote comment=”368759″]Blue helmet with black jersey? Yeah, that one would work, definitely.
    [/quote]

    no[/quote]

    Better than other way around, I meant.

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.

  • Steven | December 27, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”368748″][quote comment=”368743″]Looking at the uni movies, I kinda know the movies. The quotes uh not so much.

    Ricko got all 66 Hopalong Cassidy films. I know i watched some of those when I was a very young kid. I may have had pjs with Hop on them too.[/quote]

    My favorite uni-related line ever in a sports movie?
    SLAP SHOT, one of the Hanson Brothers:

    “We need some f—king Downy in these f—king jerseys!”

    It just doesn’t get a whole lot better than that. lol

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The Hansons? Those guys are a f**king disgrace!

    Regarding the Leafs, rumour across biscuit-whacking forums is hem stripes to return next season along with a new shoulder patch design.

    Little by little the whole EDGE crap is disappearing fron those teams who chose to inflict the worst aesthetic choices possible. Sadly no hint of the Avs ditching those apron strings.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    In a world with sleeves on jerseys, something like this…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    With yellow epaulettes like the ’62 version? http://www.weirdwolf...
    I’d not only wear that uni, this cheapskate would BUY that jersey.

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”368762″][quote comment=”368758″][quote comment=”368752″]
    Yes – Carolina Blue helmets for the Panthers. It would be all theirs. Like it.[/quote]

    so long as they ditch (entirely) the black jerseys and silver pants…

    here ya go[/quote]

    With helmet to blue as the only change…
    http://farm5.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I like!

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    From the quiz:

    15-J

    That’s all I know.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”368769″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    With yellow epaulettes like the ’62 version? http://www.weirdwolf...
    I’d not only wear that uni, this cheapskate would BUY that jersey.[/quote]

    Epaulettes? Those are athletic gold sleeves.
    Epaulettes are those shoulder straps thingees on military unis and shirts from REI, Gander Mountain and Banana Republic. ;)

    (Oh, man, remember when Banana Republic was about the hottest thing on the planet?)

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”368769″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    With yellow epaulettes like the ’62 version? http://www.weirdwolf...
    I’d not only wear that uni, this cheapskate would BUY that jersey.[/quote]

    Ah I knew you or Ricko would have a picture handy. I did a quick look and did not find any of the Steelers in white.

    epaulettes was a term not familiar to me. Nice find guys and thanks.

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”368772″][quote comment=”368769″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    With yellow epaulettes like the ’62 version? http://www.weirdwolf...
    I’d not only wear that uni, this cheapskate would BUY that jersey.[/quote]

    Epaulettes? Those are athletic gold sleeves.
    Epaulettes are those shoulder straps thingees on military unis and shirts from REI, Gander Mountain and Banana Republic. ;)

    (Oh, man, remember when Banana Republic was about the hottest thing on the planet?)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I thought someone on here used that word to describe colored sleeves. However you say it, that’s one of my all-time favorite jerseys.

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”368768″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    In a world with sleeves on jerseys, something like this…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    John Henry Johnson. He was good even late in his career.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    Epaulettes originally conceived as a place to hold your gloves, I believe.

  • pflava | December 27, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”368742″][quote comment=”368739″][quote comment=”368737″][quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]
    Damn, someone needs to don a cardigan, and go outside to yell at some kids running a corner route across the front lawn[/quote]

    concealed78 may defy conventional holiday spirit, but he comes up with some of the most sublime uni concepts I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

    Yeah, speaking of, our old Scout board has vanished! I’m actually in the process of making a White Sox uniform post-1994 Okkonen-style project thanks to a lot of old images being added to the ‘net. I’m seeing stuff I totally forgot about. And btw TC, I finally ended up snagging two authentic New Era 1973-’79 & 1980-’84 Padres caps at reasonable ebay prices, and both were squeaky clean despite being 25-30+ years old themselves. That was a 20-year project that finally ended.[/quote]

    I miss the old board – good to see you guys are still around. And I echo the sentiment that concealed is one of the most talented designers we have in our uni-community. His concepts are always fantastic.

    As for today in the NFL, I really hope the Saints don’t go all black again. When will they learn?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”368775″][quote comment=”368768″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]

    In a world with sleeves on jerseys, something like this…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    John Henry Johnson. He was good even late in his career.[/quote]

    With Joe Womack.
    Yes, THE Joe Womack.

  • Geeman | December 27, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”368679″]Said this yesterday, and it bears repeating.
    In all the big four (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL) only the Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Jets and Colts wear one-color-and-white. While some may find that “boring” that’s a unique distinction that probably deserves preserving.

    Unless, of course, we think riding the current bandwagon is the only way to a great uniform.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Are you forgetting the Yankees?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:12 pm |

    Nope, don’t think anyone would mistake this for the Giants…
    http://farm5.static....

    Especially not today.

    —Ricko

  • Geeman | December 27, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote]

  • interlockingtc | December 27, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”368777″][quote comment=”368742″][quote comment=”368739″][quote comment=”368737″][quote comment=”368734″][quote comment=”368727″][quote comment=”368726″]”Movies, movies, movies. So much a part of the Holidays. Traditional films to watch every year.”

    Maybe in your world. I for one have seen enough bad movies in my lifetime to never watch another one. Either too long, too short, too boring or too many. I just don’t see what the big f-ing deal is about them.[/quote]

    Well, Happy Holidays to you, too.[/quote]

    Yeah, yeah, I know I suck. I just have a very low threshold for media, trends, reality TV, commercialism, etc. And yeah, my entertainment center absolutely sucks. I think I was born 80 years too late. Bah humbug.[/quote]
    Damn, someone needs to don a cardigan, and go outside to yell at some kids running a corner route across the front lawn[/quote]

    concealed78 may defy conventional holiday spirit, but he comes up with some of the most sublime uni concepts I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

    Yeah, speaking of, our old Scout board has vanished! I’m actually in the process of making a White Sox uniform post-1994 Okkonen-style project thanks to a lot of old images being added to the ‘net. I’m seeing stuff I totally forgot about. And btw TC, I finally ended up snagging two authentic New Era 1973-’79 & 1980-’84 Padres caps at reasonable ebay prices, and both were squeaky clean despite being 25-30+ years old themselves. That was a 20-year project that finally ended.[/quote]

    I miss the old board – good to see you guys are still around. And I echo the sentiment that concealed is one of the most talented designers we have in our uni-community. His concepts are always fantastic.

    As for today in the NFL, I really hope the Saints don’t go all black again. When will they learn?[/quote]

    pflava: Another of the concept designers who do it right.

  • Geeman | December 27, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”368781″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote][/quote]

    Has anyone improved on the navy blue suit? The white shirt? The repp tie? Black shoes?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”368779″][quote comment=”368679″]Said this yesterday, and it bears repeating.
    In all the big four (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL) only the Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Jets and Colts wear one-color-and-white. While some may find that “boring” that’s a unique distinction that probably deserves preserving.

    Unless, of course, we think riding the current bandwagon is the only way to a great uniform.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Are you forgetting the Yankees?[/quote]

    We went around on that this week, the Yankees team colors being listed as “navy and white”. I tend to include them, gray roads being a rule-mandated generic (pretty much), but didn’t want to get the discussion started again.

    Then the subject of Yankee logo (with features a helluva lot of red) came up and how it’s on the jackets they DO wear on the field…and we never came to any kind of accord.

    But, yeah, again, I say they’re in, was just avoiding the worm can, lol.

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    Bub’s Pub in the Benchies. My niece called my dad, her grandpa Bub since she was a little kid.

    Bub’s pub is a good name for bar.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]
    The Steelers would still suck and require lots of help from the zebras and their little yellow flags to beat Baltimore.

    //yeah I’m bitter.

  • Geeman | December 27, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”368784″][quote comment=”368779″][quote comment=”368679″]Said this yesterday, and it bears repeating.
    In all the big four (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL) only the Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Jets and Colts wear one-color-and-white. While some may find that “boring” that’s a unique distinction that probably deserves preserving.

    Unless, of course, we think riding the current bandwagon is the only way to a great uniform.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Are you forgetting the Yankees?[/quote]

    We went around on that this week, the Yankees team colors being listed as “navy and white”. I tend to include them, gray roads being a rule-mandated generic (pretty much), but didn’t want to get the discussion started again.

    Then the subject of Yankee logo (with features a helluva lot of red) came up and how it’s on the jackets they DO wear on the field…and we never came to any kind of accord.

    But, yeah, again, I say they’re in, was just avoiding the worm can, lol.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Figured you were thining about that red in the logo. Maybe those red Yankee caps aren’t so odd after all, if red is a team color by viture of the logo.

    Hadn’t thought about the grey roads — good catch.

  • Geeman | December 27, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”368783″][quote comment=”368781″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote][/quote]

    Has anyone improved on the navy blue suit? The white shirt? The repp tie? Black shoes?[/quote]

    Or the tux?

  • Geeman | December 27, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”368788″][quote comment=”368783″][quote comment=”368781″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote][/quote]

    Has anyone improved on the navy blue suit? The white shirt? The repp tie? Black shoes?[/quote]

    Or the tux?[/quote]

    Thinking out loud here: Some of these uniforms today are the equivalent of the light blue leisure suit tuxes with ruffled feathers from 1979. Change for change’s sake, and whoops, out goes that style tide and look who’s still standing on the beach.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”368789″][quote comment=”368788″][quote comment=”368783″][quote comment=”368781″][quote comment=”368677″][quote comment=”368671″]I don’t know why Corvette has had the same basic lines for years and years and years. So boring. Why don’t they do something updated and cool? Y’know, go to a silhouette more like a Mini Cooper, maybe. Just cuz something been done for long time doesn’t mean it couldn’t stand an upgrade.

    (wink)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    On the other hand, when the underlying technology changes, the same old design doesn’t always work very well.[/quote][/quote]

    Has anyone improved on the navy blue suit? The white shirt? The repp tie? Black shoes?[/quote]

    Or the tux?[/quote]

    Thinking out loud here: Some of these uniforms today are the equivalent of the light blue leisure suit tuxes with ruffled feathers from 1979. Change for change’s sake, and whoops, out goes that style tide and look who’s still standing on the beach.[/quote]

    Or these…
    http://telstarlogist...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”368786″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]
    The Steelers would still suck and require lots of help from the zebras and their little yellow flags to beat Baltimore.

    //yeah I’m bitter.[/quote]

    Something to be said for hanging onto a TD pass, too.

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”368786″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]
    The Steelers would still suck and require lots of help from the zebras and their little yellow flags to beat Baltimore.

    //yeah I’m bitter.[/quote]

    My dad was a longtime Steeler fan so I liked them as young kid. The early 1960’s. But as I got older my Ohio pride led me to root for the Browns.

    So I too was not happy the Steelers pulled out the win. Sure were a lot of flags on Ravens especially during big plays. That dropped TD did not help.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 4:36 pm |

    Someone tell Phil to take his head out of the oven, okay?

    –Ricko

  • AD | December 27, 2009 at 4:59 pm |

    Hey Grumpy Old Man:

    This is an epaullette; Looks just Like what the Seahawks have. I think that is where We heard the term

    http://howardlanham....

    Isn’t anyone going to answer your quiz?

  • AD | December 27, 2009 at 5:01 pm |

    Try again. This time Not from Tripod:

    http://www.napoleon-...

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”368794″]Hey Grumpy Old Man:

    This is an epaullette; Looks just Like what the Seahawks have. I think that is where We heard the term

    http://howardlanham....

    Isn’t anyone going to answer your quiz?[/quote]

    Shoulder straps, indeed, evolved from epaulettes, and “epaulettes” is often used (perhaps in error) to describe such straps on the shoulders of a man’s shirt.

    And, no one’s answered the quiz.

    As to “grumpy”…in about 1977 my then 21-year-old girlfriend told me that disco was the best music could possibly be and that it would the most popular kind of music “forever.” I was a decade older than she, and tried to explain to her that wasn’t likely, but she wouldn’t hear of it.

    At UW I have flashbacks to that conversation many, many times.

    I guess you don’t come to understand how things come and go until you’ve seen a few things come and go.

    50 years ago, all football teams wore black cleats.
    25 years ago, virtually all teams wore white.
    Today, we’re back to the majority wearing black.

    Things change, gang. Today’s “in” is tomorrow’s “yesterday”.

    You could look it up.

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”368791″][quote comment=”368786″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]
    The Steelers would still suck and require lots of help from the zebras and their little yellow flags to beat Baltimore.

    //yeah I’m bitter.[/quote]

    Something to be said for hanging onto a TD pass, too.[/quote]
    Yeah – our guys spit the bit themselves, although the flags on both TDs were the deinition of ticky-tack.
    To bring this back to Unis – I suspect the haunted Steelers throwbacks make things go bump in the night. Ghost of Buddy Dial getting back for the old celebratory cannon going off in his face. (NFL Follies classic)

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”368797″][quote comment=”368791″][quote comment=”368786″][quote comment=”368766″]What if the Steelers had a white or away version of this throwback.[/quote]
    The Steelers would still suck and require lots of help from the zebras and their little yellow flags to beat Baltimore.

    //yeah I’m bitter.[/quote]

    Something to be said for hanging onto a TD pass, too.[/quote]
    Yeah – our guys spit the bit themselves, although the flags on both TDs were the deinition of ticky-tack.
    To bring this back to Unis – I suspect the haunted Steelers throwbacks make things go bump in the night. Ghost of Buddy Dial getting back for the old celebratory cannon going off in his face. (NFL Follies classic)[/quote]

    In that uni, too.
    Closed thing to a conniption fit as you’ll ever see in football…that doesn’t involved a zebra.

  • LarryB | December 27, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”368795″]Try again. This time Not from Tripod:

    http://www.napoleon-...

    Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. We hope you will enjoy the show.

  • aflfan | December 27, 2009 at 5:44 pm |

    I got all but two on the quiz today. Yeah, I know I need a life. Just can’t afford to get one.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 5:49 pm |

    I liked the Steelers when they came out of nowhere in 1972, and Irsay started the Colts down a bad road. By 1975 the Colts were good again in the Bert Jones era, and Pittsburgh provided the roadblock.
    In 1996- the 8 gazillion former PA residents in MD tried to take over our stadium. The Ravens’ organization and their fans have done a great job making the rivalry not one-sided, although Pitt has an upper hand in the big picture.
    It’s the best rivalry in football, one of the best in all of sports. Steelers ownership is classy, Tomlin is a great coach, Roethlesberger is a beast – you need to wrap up his body and BOTH arms to stop him. The MD Steeler fan contingent is still huge, still annoying.
    So I’ll kepp on hatin’

    Although I still think the Steelers block-numbered 1970-1990’s unis are among the best ever.

  • =bg= | December 27, 2009 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”368740″][quote comment=”368738″]Meh. Cowboys jersey I got for Christmas—on its way back to NFLshop.com. One, it smelled AWFUL. I hung it outside all day Christmas day to air it out, didn’t work too well. Plus the body was way to gauzy, almost transparent. It was a Staubach throwback. Wanted that for several years, too. Oh well. The guy down the street says he works for Mitchell & Ness. Maybe better luck there. Cowboys @ DC tonite- I despise the Skins and Dan Snyder.

    HOWBOUTDEMCOWBOYS.[/quote]

    Redskins? Now there’s a team that, given their decade-long Daniel-driven debacle, needs to (uni-wise) either go back to their Super Bowl era look…meaning white shoes and no, repeat no, monochrome and no leotard looks…or start over altogether.

    But, please, don’t crap out and go BFBS. Too easy, and WAY too trite. Although, coming to the table 10 years late would be just about their speed these days.

    And I LIKE Redskins…going back to Eddie LeBaron, for pete’s sake.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    huh? whats BFBS?

  • concealed78 | December 27, 2009 at 6:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”368777″]

    I miss the old board – good to see you guys are still around. And I echo the sentiment that concealed is one of the most talented designers we have in our uni-community. His concepts are always fantastic.

    As for today in the NFL, I really hope the Saints don’t go all black again. When will they learn?[/quote]

    Aww shucks! My design style is mostly ‘classic’ & clean production values. Yeah I’ve lurking around here pretty much since Day 1. I’ve learned so much on this site. Btw, recently the Scout Padres posters loved the modern-Padres-with-retro-colors set that I made back in ’07. Rumors there that the Pads are doing something with blue (didn’t say which shade) and some kind of emphasis on the SD cap for ’10. This coming from one who’s a season ticket holder.

    And no, the Saints will never learn. Too much damn cockiness attitude with smug arrogance with the color black. You know who wears black leotards? Yoga instructors.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 6:48 pm |

    In the Ricko “One Team Color plus white” Bowl – the Colts are tempting fate and pissing off the football gods by benching their all-world Hall of Fame QB who never gets hit anyway.

  • aflfan | December 27, 2009 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”368804″]In the Ricko “One Team Color plus white” Bowl – the Colts are tempting fate and pissing off the football gods by benching their all-world Hall of Fame QB who never gets hit anyway.[/quote]

    And more importantly ending any chance I have of winning my fantasy football championship.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 7:08 pm |

    And while I believe my Ravens are still “Win and you’re in” next week – the Jets win will have some impact on Denver, Pittsburgh and Houston’s playoff scenarios – and the Jets’ hopes obviously.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 7:15 pm |

    The hell with it. Here are the Quiz Answers…

    1-N
    “I am choosing to win this fucking game.”
    —Billy Clyde Puckett (Burt Reynolds), SEMI-TOUGH

    2-M
    “All the way up with a red hot poker. I can play anywhere now.”
    —Henry Steele (Robbie Benson), ONE ON ONE

    3-E
    “Say, boy – does you do this constantly?”
    “No, suh. I does it all the time.”
    —Leon Carter (James Earl Jones) and Esquire Joe Callaway (Stan Shaw) after the latter bowled over the former at home plate, BINGO LONG’S TRAVELING ALL-STARS & MOTOR KINGS

    4-T
    “Man, this is baseball, you gotta stop thinking! Just have fun.”
    —Benny “The Jet” Rodriquez (Mike Vitar), THE SANDLOT

    5-S
    “Hey, that’s weird. No college given, no high school. It just says he’s been a resident of the state of Maryland for the last two years and two months, and that he likes to embroider.”
    —John Madden, THE REPLACEMENTS

    6-K
    “I play hockey and I fornicate, ’cause those are the two most fun things to do in cold weather.”
    —“Skank” Marden (Ron Eldard), MYSTERY, ALASKA

    7-H
    “I know everything there is to know about the greatest game ever invented.”
    —Wilbur “Shooter” Flatch (Dennis Hopper), HOOSIERS

    8-Q
    “Just so you know, we really suck.”
    “Hey, I’ll decide who sucks around here.”
    —Player and Coach Gordon Bombay (Emilio Estevez), THE MIGHTY DUCKS

    9-B
    “Every night, every morning…and sometimes during arithmetic.”
    —Bridget White (Donna Corcoran) to Manager “Guffy” McGovern (Paul Douglas), about how often she prays for the Pirates, ANGELS IN THE OUTFIELD

    10-P
    “See! I told you I broke his f–kin’ neck!”
    —Samson (Richard Kiel), THE LONGEST YARD

    11-G
    “Holy shit. Talk about your all time backfires.”
    —Happy Gilmore (Adam Sandler), HAPPY GILMORE

    12-I
    “We don’t have a cow. We have a bull.”
    —Mr. Boorg (William Jordan), KINGPIN

    13-C
    “Kiss my Armani ass!”
    —Julian Washington (LL Cool J), ANY GIVEN SUNDAY

    14-D
    “Those Yankees are real turds.”
    —Tanner Boyle (Chris Barnes), THE BAD NEWS BEARS

    15-J
    “You trying to say Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?”
    —Eddie Harris (Chelcie Ross), MAJOR LEAGUE

    16-L
    “You do speak Canadian, don’t you?”
    —Emmett Hunter (Dabney Coleman), threatening to cut Phil Elliott (Nick Nolte), NORTH DALLAS FORTY

    17-A
    “You’re not God, Nickerson. You’re just a typing teacher.”
    —Stefen Djordjevic (Tom Cruise) to Coach Nickerson (Craig T. Nelson), ALL THE RIGHT MOVES

    18-O
    “This young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation to Canada and that country’s refusal to accept him.”
    —Jim Carr (Andrew Duncan), SLAP SHOT

    19-U
    “I’m playing for Rio Grande Short-Haul Trucking, Briggs and Brown Sanitation, First State Bank of Salome, Woody’s Smokehouse… “
    —Roy “Tin Cup” McAvoy (Kevin Costner), TIN CUP

    20-F
    “Charlie, here comes the deuce”
    —Crash Davis (Kevin Costner), BULL DURHAM

    21-R
    “I guess some mistakes you never stop paying for.”
    —Roy Hobbs (Robert Redford), THE NATURAL

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | December 27, 2009 at 7:52 pm |

    I did not know 9 or 16.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 7:57 pm |

    Better get in line now for the run on Colts #7 jerseys.
    (eyeroll)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 8:03 pm |

    13 years since a Cowboys playoff victory?

    Hmmm, Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder have even more in common than watching the game on tivo and counting how many times they were on camera.

    —Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | December 27, 2009 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”368796″]As to “grumpy”…in about 1977 my then 21-year-old girlfriend told me that disco was the best music could possibly be and that it would the most popular kind of music “forever.”[/quote]

    Um, she was right. Disco emphasized beat, rhythm, the dancefloor, and black cultural values over songwriting, melody, musicianship (at least as traditionally defined at the time), and white cultural values. Today’s pop music scene is rooted almost completely in the blueprint disco set down. Rock and roll (i.e., white people playing guitars) is largely a wan afterthought.

    Personally, I didn’t care for much disco and can’t stand any of today’s pop. But that battle has been fought, and won (or lost, if you prefer), and your girlfriend was right.

    But newfangled uniforms still suck.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 8:28 pm |

    1. The BCS System and the spreading out of the bowl games has pretty much neutered college football’s longstanding hold on New Year’s Day, leaving it wide open for someone else to claim.

    2. The NHL Winter Classic is on the way to, working with MLB over the next few years, becoming THE TV event on New Year’s Day (except for maybe the Rose Bowl, just because it’s the Rose Bowl).

    Requests for 300,000 tickets at Fenway.
    Yeah, it’s a nothing event, alright.

    Gotta admire the NHL’s savvy if, in fact, they did it on purpose.
    If not, then envy their dumb luck. lol

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 8:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”368811″][quote comment=”368796″]As to “grumpy”…in about 1977 my then 21-year-old girlfriend told me that disco was the best music could possibly be and that it would the most popular kind of music “forever.”[/quote]

    Um, she was right. Disco emphasized beat, rhythm, the dancefloor, and black cultural values over songwriting, melody, musicianship (at least as traditionally defined at the time), and white cultural values. Today’s pop music scene is rooted almost completely in the blueprint disco set down. Rock and roll (i.e., white people playing guitars) is largely a wan afterthought.

    Personally, I didn’t care for much disco and can’t stand any of today’s pop. But that battle has been fought, and won (or lost, if you prefer), and your girlfriend was right.

    But newfangled uniforms still suck.[/quote]

    I guess I didn’t make this quite clear, she was talking about the Village People/KC & the Sunshine Band/Donna Summer sound…and the whole “disco scene” (the “Saturday Night Fever” model) staying around forever, being the dominant music and fashion style until, apparently, the end of time.

    But I gotta say, having been to “clubs” long before even the Beach Boys and The Beatles were around, the underlying foundation of the music was there long before even those guys (“emphasized beat, rhythm, the dancefloor, and black cultural values”–why you think my parents’ generation, the WWII crowd, was so aghast about this horrific new “rock n’ roll” stuff?).

    Now, when you say disco led to less real craftsmanship in songwriting and performing, and turned popular music away from its true rock n’roll roots…I’ll definitely agree.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”368812″]The NHL Winter Classic is on the way to, working with MLB over the next few years, becoming THE TV event on New Year’s Day (except for maybe the Rose Bowl, just because it’s the Rose Bowl).[/quote]

    no

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”368814″][quote comment=”368812″]The NHL Winter Classic is on the way to, working with MLB over the next few years, becoming THE TV event on New Year’s Day (except for maybe the Rose Bowl, just because it’s the Rose Bowl).[/quote]

    no[/quote]

    Wait. Let’s look at things in five years. Especially if the NCAA goes to a playoff and is stupid enough NOT to use New Year’s Day as a critical focal point. With that, they could take back what they’re currently surrendering. If not, the WC will just get stronger and stronger, at least in that daypart.

    —Ricko

  • Mickel | December 27, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    I found a 1952-53 Tacoma Rockets Hockey Program and had insomnia so I decided to share. Enjoy http://mickelyantz.c...

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”368815″]
    Wait. Let’s look at things in five years. Especially if the NCAA goes to a playoff and is stupid enough NOT to use New Year’s Day as a critical focal point. With that, they could take back what they’re currently surrendering. If not, the WC will just get stronger and stronger, at least in that daypart.[/quote]

    five years from now? when we’re up to winter classic 8 (if it makes it that far)?

    wasn’t the WC supposed to be the big event after five years (or 2 years hence)?

    despite the fact that 300,000 bostonians need an excuse to keep drinking all new years day, you’re never gonna replace the rose bowl as THE event of new years day…especially this year, when for once USC isn’t in the damn thing

    and about that five year thing — you may be right, because that’s when espn’s contract runs out and maybe they’ll finally institute a playoff system — in which case, even MORE interest will be on the bowls, and they’d likely use NYD for the semi finals, with the final to be played approximately one week later (or more, if too close to a weekend)…the NFL will have sat/sun, and the BCS championship can be a huge, weeknight (maybe a thursday???) in primetime

    no…i bet this year’s numbers for the WC are down from last, and the novelty will wear off faster than usain bolt’s workday

    the rose is, and will always, be king of NYD

  • matt in cleveland | December 27, 2009 at 9:32 pm |

    dig the site get a kick outta reading and seeing everything big ups on the buckeyes pics and the hatered towards the all brown Brown’s pants. one movie: “what is that 500 feet? nah its 480 tops….” Mr. Baseball

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”368811″][quote comment=”368796″]As to “grumpy”…in about 1977 my then 21-year-old girlfriend told me that disco was the best music could possibly be and that it would the most popular kind of music “forever.”[/quote]

    Um, she was right. Disco emphasized beat, rhythm, the dancefloor, and black cultural values over songwriting, melody, musicianship (at least as traditionally defined at the time), and white cultural values. Today’s pop music scene is rooted almost completely in the blueprint disco set down. Rock and roll (i.e., white people playing guitars) is largely a wan afterthought.

    Personally, I didn’t care for much disco and can’t stand any of today’s pop. But that battle has been fought, and won (or lost, if you prefer), and your girlfriend was right.

    But newfangled uniforms still suck.[/quote]
    WTF??

    Songwriting,melody and musicianship live on. I know lots of kids, including my daughters who are into classic pop, classic rock, standards and showtunes both from a listening and performing standpoint. Listening to lazy music on the radio or because itunes tells them to is for lazy kids who won’t shape music.

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    “the rose is, and will always, be king of NYD”

    And I said that.

    Ratings? All depends on how much of a “habit” it becomes for people. Get up, watch some outdoor hockey (especially if bowls opposite it are relatively meaningless), then pick up the higher profile games, including the Rose Bowl, later.

    Your authoritative “no” reminded me a bit of all those people who said this new American Football League would fall flat on its ass.

    That’s why I said “wait.” This probably is a pivotal year for the WC, yes. But it doesn’t need to do Rose Bowl numbers to be successful. It just has to be more profitable for NBC (including any measurable change in subsequent NHL ratings) than whatever other programming it might stick in that time slot.

    It may become nothing more than what people traditionally watch when they get up, before they get together with others to watch football. That alone could generate enough numbers to make it worth continuing. And be called “successful” and a “traditon” of New Year’s Day. I’m just saying I think it’s too early to write it off as a gimmick.

    Or, it also may be onlyo NBC’s way of trying to boost it’s NHL ratings. At the end of that contract, and absent a replacement deal with CBS, ABC, Fox or ESPN, the WC could die real fast.

    Right now, though, as a new event, it’s off to a helluva good start. And it seems to be headed in the right direction. The bell curve is still heading up. Have to see if it continues. I think it will, and least enough to keep it going to see how entrenched it does, or doesn’t, become.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”368809″]Better get in line now for the run on Colts #7 jerseys.
    (eyeroll)[/quote]

    was anyone else having burt jones flashbacks today?

    /me neither

  • M.Princip | December 27, 2009 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”368816″]I found a 1952-53 Tacoma Rockets Hockey Program and had insomnia so I decided to share. Enjoy http://mickelyantz.c...

    This would be great information for tomorrow’s news ticker.

  • Johnny O | December 27, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.

  • Johnny O | December 27, 2009 at 10:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”368824″]Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.[/quote]

    I got too excited… the first image should be of this guy:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 10:18 pm |

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g

    And all three of them got together to go to the game.

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    Clemson in Purple over Orange vs Kentucky in white w/ blue pants. I actually like Clemson’s color combo but boy are those jerseys cluttered up with patches and piping…

    This could have been the The Jeff Bowl. Clemson in all orange vs Kentucky in all blue. No white needed. Just this once, in a bowl game…for fun.

    Yeah I said it – and I’m probably the biggest hater of the monochrome look here.

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 10:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”368827″]This could have been the The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    you trying to kill ricko?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”368828″][quote comment=”368827″]This could have been the The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    you trying to kill ricko?[/quote]

    I got nothing against color-on-color on a few occasions…if the contrast is reasonable (love USC-UCLA color-on-color). I just can’t see it ever becoming typical again. For lots of common sense reasons that seem to be lost on some.

    —Ricko

  • Beardface | December 27, 2009 at 10:45 pm |

    Ricko…

    As much as I like your effort with ‘fixing’ the Panthers, your suggestion of a blue helmet will NEVER happen. One of the main reasons they chose the blue shade they did was that it was a mix of the UNC and Duke blues, so they wouldn’t create a rift in the collegiate fanbases in the state and alienate either one of them or the NC State crowd (or S. Carolina or Clemson for that fact). If they did that, they’d look way too much like UNC and that is something they’d never OK.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”368826″]Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g

    And all three of them got together to go to the game.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That will make 4 actually. I thought I had met the only one that was not of the “cheese fed” variety, but these she is not in this picture.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”368829″][quote comment=”368828″][quote comment=”368827″]This could have been the The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    you trying to kill ricko?[/quote]

    I got nothing against color-on-color on a few occasions…if the contrast is reasonable (love USC-UCLA color-on-color). I just can’t see it ever becoming typical again. For lots of common sense reasons that seem to be lost on some.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Bright Royal vs Bright Orange would pop in high def, but would be a spot of bother for those watching on their 5″ b&w campsite/power outage tv’s – the ones you crank for power if the 12 D cells are dead.

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”368832″][quote comment=”368829″][quote comment=”368828″][quote comment=”368827″]This could have been the The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    you trying to kill ricko?[/quote]

    I got nothing against color-on-color on a few occasions…if the contrast is reasonable (love USC-UCLA color-on-color). I just can’t see it ever becoming typical again. For lots of common sense reasons that seem to be lost on some.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Bright Royal vs Bright Orange would pop in high def, but would be a spot of bother for those watching on their 5″ b&w campsite/power outage tv’s – the ones you crank for power if the 12 D cells are dead.[/quote]

    I don’t think those TVs even work anymore, thanks to the switchover to digital broadcasts.

    But I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl. (sponsored by Pepsi and Cheetos, of course)

    But I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl.

  • The Jeff | December 27, 2009 at 11:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”368833″]

    I don’t think those TVs even work anymore, thanks to the switchover to digital broadcasts.

    But I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl. (sponsored by Pepsi and Cheetos, of course)

    But I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    …and apparently I’m repeating myself. WTF was that? :(

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”368830″]Ricko…

    As much as I like your effort with ‘fixing’ the Panthers, your suggestion of a blue helmet will NEVER happen. One of the main reasons they chose the blue shade they did was that it was a mix of the UNC and Duke blues, so they wouldn’t create a rift in the collegiate fanbases in the state and alienate either one of them or the NC State crowd (or S. Carolina or Clemson for that fact). If they did that, they’d look way too much like UNC and that is something they’d never OK.[/quote]

    How about the blue helmet with a Duke blue jersey? Just change the black to Duke blue.

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 11:09 pm |

    Meanwhile – nothing new with the Skins and Cowpokes… but you know what this is a near-perfect uni game. One team in white jerseys with dark pants – in warm shades of burgundy and gold. Opposed by the ice-cool Dallas unis in a dark blue(I only call it Navy if it’s as dark as the Yankees’ caps or the pants I wear to the office.)and trimmed out with sweet silver helmets and silver pants.
    Nothing about Washington’s gear looks anything like the Dallas gear. No white helmets, no white over white for those that don’t care for that stuff.

    I think that this rivalry approaches Uni-perfection, much like TOSU and Michigan.

    Raiders in black vs Chiefs in red pants is another great one.

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 11:11 pm |

    Sorry, Ricko, if I wasn’t out partying with the family I would have played the quiz. Only knew one quote, and it would have taken all day to luck into a few others. Now if you would have included Caddyshack I would have gotten that one…

  • Taxman | December 27, 2009 at 11:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”368834″][quote comment=”368833″]

    I don’t think those TVs even work anymore, thanks to the switchover to digital broadcasts.

    But I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl. (sponsored by Pepsi and Cheetos, of course)

    But I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    …and apparently I’m repeating myself. WTF was that? :([/quote]

    Sonofabitch – gotta upgrade the emergency TV. Nice to watch the local news when blizzards or hurricanes knock the power out… Live, local and latebreaking.

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 11:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”368833″]
    I love the sound of The Jeff Bowl.[/quote]

    don’t you play that on madden like, every thursday?

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”368830″]Ricko…

    As much as I like your effort with ‘fixing’ the Panthers, your suggestion of a blue helmet will NEVER happen. One of the main reasons they chose the blue shade they did was that it was a mix of the UNC and Duke blues, so they wouldn’t create a rift in the collegiate fanbases in the state and alienate either one of them or the NC State crowd (or S. Carolina or Clemson for that fact). If they did that, they’d look way too much like UNC and that is something they’d never OK.[/quote]

    I know the background. Moment I finished it I thought, “Nope, too much like the Tarheels.” Was just looking for simplest way to separate Panthers from Lions and Raiders. Wasn’t saying was practical, just was one way with the least amount of change.

    I never think any of my “edits” can happen. Most of the time, they’re couched (at least in my head)in the notion that “too bad this simple change can’t be implemented,” because there’s usually some reason I know very well it’s impossible.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 11:28 pm |

    Not quite the The Jeff Bowl, but it is the color palette special of the day:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • =bg= | December 27, 2009 at 11:29 pm |

    The Redskins lost to Dallas twice this year, 7-6 and 17-0.

    They have never gone without a TD in 2 straight games against Dallas, ever. Since 1960.

    See you in the postseason, Danny, you little twerp.

  • =bg= | December 27, 2009 at 11:31 pm |

    PS

    After 4 1/2 hrs of watching NBC, I can flatly guarantee that the NHL Winter Classic is sponsored by Bridgestone.

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 11:36 pm |

    When the season started, who would have thought that the Bengals/Jets would be the final Sunday night game?

    And why are the Jets closing out Giants Stadium? Shouldn’t the Giants have been home next week instead?

  • Greenie | December 27, 2009 at 11:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”368824″]Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.[/quote]

    Nothing like it Johnny O. A friend of mine was just proposed to at halftime on the concourse.

    -Greenie

  • Greenie | December 27, 2009 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”368824″]Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.[/quote]

    Nothing like it at all, Johnny O. A friend of mine was just proposed to at halftime on the concourse at Lambeau. She said yes.

    -Greenie

  • LI Phil | December 27, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”368844″]why are the Jets closing out Giants Stadium? [/quote]

    because the mets, phillies and yankees failed to inflict enough pain on me this year

  • Greenie | December 27, 2009 at 11:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”368824″]Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.[/quote]

    Nothing like it at all, Johnny O. A friend of mine was just proposed to at halftime on the concourse at Lambeau Field. She said yes, naturally.

    -Greenie

  • Greenie | December 27, 2009 at 11:45 pm |

    sorry on the multiple posts, my computer is failing me

    -Greenie

  • Greenie | December 27, 2009 at 11:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”368731″]Damn you Andrew Greenwood, now I can’t help but notice that teal Jaguar tongue. I freaking live in Jacksonville, how is it I never noticed it before? One more reason to hate them now[/quote]

    Happy to call your attention to it.

    -Greenie

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”368848″][quote comment=”368824″]Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.[/quote]

    Nothing like it at all, Johnny O. A friend of mine was just proposed to at halftime on the concourse at Lambeau Field. She said yes, naturally.

    -Greenie[/quote]

    I certainly hope she knew the guy, and it wasn’t some sort of “we made the playoffs” romance.

    Although I’ll wager a fair amount of Wisconsin kids likely have been conceived under such circumstances.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 27, 2009 at 11:51 pm |

    Let me rephrase that.
    A fair amount of Wisconson families have one more kid than they planned, due to such circumstances. That’s what I should have said.

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”368851″][quote comment=”368848″][quote comment=”368824″]Packers in the playoffs? This fan’s expression represents the entire state:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just gotta throw this out there too:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    It is very rare these days to have such a great community like the community of the Green Bay Packers.[/quote]

    Nothing like it at all, Johnny O. A friend of mine was just proposed to at halftime on the concourse at Lambeau Field. She said yes, naturally.

    -Greenie[/quote]

    I certainly hope she knew the guy, and it wasn’t some sort of “we made the playoffs” romance.

    Although I’ll wager a fair amount of Wisconsin kids likely have been conceived under such circumstances.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Wonder how many of those kids are named Brett, and how many of them want to change their names now…

  • JimV19 | December 27, 2009 at 11:58 pm |

    Let’s see, the Steelers have won three Super Bowls in the white on yellow unis, three in the black on yellow, and lost one in the black on yellow. How about they go for the next one in the throwbacks?
    http://a.espncdn.com...

    I’m liking that uni (and the way it contrasts with the Ravens) more and more each day.

    Don’t think they’ll get a playoff spot this year, though. Oh well.

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2009 at 12:11 am |

    [quote comment=”368854″]Don’t think they’ll get a playoff spot this year, though. Oh well.[/quote]

    that’s about all that is making me feel any less pain right now…

    in order for pittsburgh to get in: they need a win AND need help to make the playoffs — their best way of getting in would be if the following three things happen: (1) they win, (2) houston loses to new england, and (3) either baltimore or the jets lose their games

    there is an alternate scenario where pittsburgh and houston can both make it, but denver, baltimore, and the jets would all have to lose

    looks like the last two super bowl champs will be watching the playoffs from home

  • JTH | December 28, 2009 at 2:33 am |

    [quote comment=”368826″]Who says there aren’t any good looking gals in Wisconsin:
    http://sports.espn.g

    And all three of them got together to go to the game.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    And the three hags in that picture mugged them and stole their tickets? So sad…

    I keed! I keed! The girl in front of me for the season opener at Lambeau was absolutely gorgeous. Although, she was probably an import.