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Winter Solstice Uni Watch

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See what happens if you leave your belt unbuckled? That’s Tommy Kelly of the Raiders, who emerged from a goal line pile with a bit less than he’d bargained for, prompting a national wave of nausea (and a flurry of photographic activity at reader John Wokas’s house).

In more conventional uni-related news from around the league:

• After all the weekend soap operatics regarding Chad Bengal — he’ll wear Chris Henry’s jersey, he’ll be fined, the union will pay his fine, wait, the union isn’t allowed to pay his fine, he won’t wear the jersey after all, he’s changing his name to UnoCinco — he just wore his regular jersey after all (although he did carry Henry’s jersey onto the field).

• Jonathan Fanene went further, however, wearing memorial eye black and an arm memorial. Pat Sims wore the eye black tribute as well, and so did Rey Maualuga.

• And of course all of the Bengals wore a memorial decal.

• Over in Denver, Brandon Marshall — who already wears No. 15 — wore a “Henry” nameplate during pregame warm-ups but wore his own name during the game.

• Getting back to the Bengals for a sec, Partho Kalyani notes that Brian Leonard’s nameplate was positioned too low. To the best of my knowledge, this was not a tribute to Chris Henry.

• The Seahawks did the scuba-over-navy thing again. Looks like the solid-scuba look is history, not that this is much of an improvement.

• Rams wore their throwbacks yesterday.

• Is it just me, or does that look like a really low QB squat?

• The Ravens wore their black alts.

• Josh Cribbs keeps wearing the Browns’ striped socks as arm warmers, which is totally cool by me.

• I don’t fully understand what happened here, but it sure looks like the start of a Monday Night Football game. (Screen shot by way of Chad Morris, who sent it to me while on the way to the hospital for the birth of his first child. Now that’s devotion!)

• Want to see just how messed up the various jersey cuts are these days? Look at this. That’s Brandon Chillar in the center, wearing the same newfangled jersey that Jermichael Finley’s been wearing. On the right is Tramon Williams, wearing a standard jersey. And I’m not sure what Mark Tauscher is wearing — his TV numbers look normal, but his collar and NFL Equipment shield placement look more like the stretchy jersey, except that his uni number is positioned much higher than on the stretchies. What a mess.

• Rob Ullman notes that Mark Sanchez was wearing a Jets logo mouthguard, which looks sorta gross. (As an aside: I don’t follow MMA, or UFC, or whatever they’re calling it this week, but Keith Winney says many of the fighters’ mouthguards now feature custom designs — fangs, American flags, messages, etc. The fangs have also been worn by at least one NFL player, Jovan Belcher, and maybe by Darnell Dockett as well. None of which can bode particularly well for the future of our civilization.)

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Button, button, who’s got the button?: Got an intriguing note the other day from Jim Lonetti, as follows:

I recently was at a training session for volunteers who will work the concession stands at the new Target Field for the Minnesota Twins. The topic of name tags came up, and the representative for Delaware North (the company in charge of concessions) mentioned the tags are still in development. He said the usual lame lanyards or other tags that use that fancy P-touch machine are being considered.

I quickly sketched up something from memory. Do you remember this type of button? Old vendors used to wear them — they had the little window that was covered by clear plastic that displayed the vendor’s name or maybe the price of beer, making this feature of the button easily changeable? When I described them to the Delaware North rep, he was very interested in my idea and wants me to contact him if I can find some information. I tried to locate some examples on eBay or elsewhere on the web with no luck. Perhaps a Uni Watch reader has some examples or can put me in touch with a button manufacturer that still produces this design.

So that is the Uni Watch challenge. Let’s bring classic vendor buttons to Target Field for the Twins upcoming season!

I’m not familiar with this type of button, but maybe someone else is. If you know where to source these, feel free to contact Jim directly. Thanks.

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Membership Update: We’re fully caught up on membership card designs (including Josh Jedwab’s mid-’80s Canucks flying-V treatment, shown at right). Scott will soon be heading west for the holidays, so if you’ve been thinking about signing up, it would be good to enroll by tomorrow morning, or else you may face a slight delay. As always, full sign-up details are available here.

Raffle Reminder: The Uni Watch holiday raffle is ongoing. For details, look here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s a new one: BLOB — that’s bowl logo on back, as worn by Fresno State in the New Mexico Bowl. (thanks to Dan Cichalski for the close-up screen shot). … In that same game, a Wyoming player had an awesome helmet decal glitch. Kinda gives a 3-D effect to the design, no? (Screen shot courtesy of Aaron Wiens). … The Padres are supposedly going pee-and-poo for Thursday home games next season, at least according to that report. That doesn’t jibe with my info, but I’ll see what I can find out. … Ooh, check out this vintage WHA wall plaque set (nice find by Jeff Katz). … This is apparently the mask that Marty Brodeur’s upcoming throwback mask will be based on. Note the non-matching catcher and blocker, too (nice find by Chris Goffredo). … If you need a last-minute stocking stuffer, I’m told that the Broncos’ team shop just got in another shipment of the home and road vertically striped socks. You can order them at 720.258.3300. … FNOB over at Villanova (as captured by Jason Alexander). … Yet another wedding story: Jared Blank (a Mets fan) and his wife (a Yankees fan) got hitched back in August and used these graphics. Note the gratifying lack of black in the Mets designs. … Very odd uni-related headline choice here. … If you go to this page and search on the word “Yankee,” you’ll see a bunch of great photos of the original pre-renovation Yankee Stadium (big thanks to Dan Cichalski). … You like this? There’s a bunch of similar images on this wonderful page (nice find by Brandon Acree). … Lots of gorgeous throwback Australian rugby jerseys displayed here (with thanks to Andrew Whitford). … Nice team portrait of the 1941 Yankees. Love how the guys in the back row are standing on chairs. “That shot is from a series of some of the earliest American color photography, says Byron Wages — some great stuff on that page. … Stephen Marcus found this photo in an antiques shop but can’t identify the teams involved. Anyone..? … “Visited Gutterson Field House, longtime home of the University of Vermont hockey team, on Saturday,” says Tris Wykes. “Some neat jersey-specific displays on the concourse walls, plus memorabilia, etc. A neat old barn.” … Most of you know about the now-famous 1964 game when the Vikings wore white at home but the Lions didn’t get the memo, briefly creating a white-on-white fiasco (which was solved when the Vikes changed into their purple jerseys right there on the sidelines, resulting in my worst nightmare). What you might not know — at least I didn’t know it — is that there was a similar game in Pittsburgh in 1966. “The Redskins went to Pittsburgh and both teams came out wearing white jerseys,” explains. Charlie Frank. You can read all about it here. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Backwards TV numbers! … New camouflage uniform for the British army (as forwarded by Tom Mulgrew). … Wisconsin-Whitewater, which usually goes NNOB, added nameplates for the Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl — i.e., the D-3 championship game — on Saturday (with thanks to Geoff Poole). … “Found this Phillies hat in the local BJ’s,” says Don Montgomery. “Apparently it was break time in Haiti.” … According to a small item buried on this page, “[T]here will be a change in the shading of all gray jerseys worn by Major League Baseball Teams. We are talking about the color of the gray jersey tops and the pants here, nothing more.” This is news to me — let me see what I can find out (with thanks to Jason Whitt). … Also from Jason: According to this page, the Nationals’ road uni will now have red socks and sleeves, instead of navy. I can confirm this change, and I’ll add that they’re going to a red belt as well. The good news is that all these accessories will now match the red script, red sleeve patch, red piping, etc.; the bad news is that they’re sticking with the navy road cap, which makes exactly zero sense. … I think we may have run this before, but it’s short and entertaining, so what the hell: Great video clip of unsightly hockey headgear (Frank Mercogliano). … And speaking of videos, here’s an amazing clip showing how World Cup soccer balls are manufactured — don’t miss (great find by Chad Todd). … Also from Chad: Here’s an unfortunate choice of words. “Apparently the Junction City Blue Jays in Kansas were preparing to play the Manhattan Indians in a basketball game,” he says.

 

194 comments to Winter Solstice Uni Watch

  • The Jeff | December 21, 2009 at 7:17 am |

    If the Rams ever decide to switch back to those throwbacks as a full time uniform, they ought to ignore historical accuracy and make the helmet blue match. It never bothered me much when all the blue helmets were too dark, but knowing now that they can match – it irritates me to no end.

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 7:52 am |

    I love this jersey display but did they have to go with the Bruins’ Pooh Bear alt for Tim Thomas?

  • Adam | December 21, 2009 at 7:59 am |

    Re Brian Leonard’s Nameplate

    Leonard’s nameplate isn’t too low, it is another inconsistency with the different cuts of Bengal’s jerseys. Look to Keith Rivers, Pat Sims and anyone else with that specific cut for further example…

  • Frank | December 21, 2009 at 8:09 am |

    I went to the link you provided, did a search on the word “Yankee” and got a ton of links about the yankees and the new yankee stadium, but no pictures.

  • Jet | December 21, 2009 at 8:29 am |

    It’s no coincidence that my rooting interest in the Padres waned when they phased out the mustard/chocolate colors…

  • Paul Lukas | December 21, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    [quote comment=”367836″]I went to the link you provided, did a search on the word “Yankee” and got a ton of links about the yankees and the new yankee stadium, but no pictures.[/quote]

    Hmmmm, photos are working fine for me.

  • PC | December 21, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    [quote comment=”367838″]• I don’t fully understand what happened here, but it sure looks like the start of a Monday Night Football game. [/quote]

    apparently the two combatants got a little too close and their bumpers/facemasks got tangled…the packer player simply “ducked out from underneath” his helmet while it was still attached to the steeler helmet, resulting in that pic

    presumably, someone was able to separate the helmets after that…but was funny to see the packer helmet ‘suspended’ as it were

  • ScottyM | December 21, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    Come on, Padres, if you’re going to go retro … do it right! Back to the 80s “golden” era with the Taco Bell specials (brown/yellow/orange).

  • floormaster squeeze | December 21, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    People here have complained about Boise St.\’s blue (shirt) on blue (pants) on blue (field) and even green on green on green. Well, I was watching the 1860 Munich vs. Union Berlin soccer game this weekend it was tough to watch Union\’s white on white on white (snow). The teams were very distinguishable but Union and the ground were not. This is the best picture I could find but it was snow looks much worse from above:

    http://img.abendzeit...

  • floormaster squeeze | December 21, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    A little better view of the white on white on white.

  • Kek | December 21, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”367841″]Come on, Padres, if you’re going to go retro … do it right! Back to the 80s “golden” era with the Taco Bell specials (brown/yellow/orange).[/quote]
    I thought the story I saw yesterday said the Padres’ fans could vote between a 70s set and the ’84 white set.

    My guess would be the ’84 whites, but you just know the Padres won’t buy the proper white shoes for a six-game stint, so I’d rather they not do them than wear those great unis with the wrong shoes.

  • floormaster squeeze | December 21, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Apologies! Here is the link:

    http://www.fc-union-...

  • Kek | December 21, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”367844″][quote comment=”367841″]Come on, Padres, if you’re going to go retro … do it right! Back to the 80s “golden” era with the Taco Bell specials (brown/yellow/orange).[/quote]
    I thought the story I saw yesterday said the Padres’ fans could vote between a 70s set and the ’84 white set.

    My guess would be the ’84 whites, but you just know the Padres won’t buy the proper white shoes for a six-game stint, so I’d rather they not do them than wear those great unis with the wrong shoes.[/quote]
    Here’s what I was referring to:

    http://sandiego.padr...

  • Frank from B-More | December 21, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T

  • leon | December 21, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    If only there were a comma between the 2 “L” s on the second line.

    http://farm3.static....

  • Jet | December 21, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”367848″]If only there were a comma between the 2 “L” s on the second line.

    http://farm3.static....

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”367848″]If only there were a comma between the 2 “L” s on the second line.

    http://farm3.static....

    i don’t get it

  • Hank | December 21, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    The hockey headgear clip is mistitled. It should be the ’11 Worst Toronto Maple Leafs Headgear’ as all the clips are of Leafs. But a fun watch in any event.

  • Broadway Connie | December 21, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    OK. I am a Jets fan and, hence, in a most foul mood this morning. I have just two uni-pertinent observations:

    1. Those Japanese “bromide” baseball posters are fabulous. Thanks, Paul.

    2. I deeply hate the Jets green-top-and-green-bottom look, but it is still not as bad as the profoundly ugly getup worn by the Bills yesterday.

  • Thomas Clark | December 21, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”367842″]People here have complained about Boise St.\’s blue (shirt) on blue (pants) on blue (field) and even green on green on green. Well, I was watching the 1860 Munich vs. Union Berlin soccer game this weekend it was tough to watch Union\’s white on white on white (snow). The teams were very distinguishable but Union and the ground were not. This is the best picture I could find but it was snow looks much worse from above:

    http://img.abendzeit...

    If you want tough white on white on white in a partial snowstorm? I present the 2000 independence bowl where Mississippi State went white clad.

    http://www.mmbolding...

  • scott | December 21, 2009 at 9:30 am |

    Why are the red sleeves and red socks not matching the navy cap a problem for the Nationals road uniforms? The Red Sox for several years have worn red sleeves and red socks with their navy caps at home…

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”367852″]OK. I am a Jets fan and, hence, in a most foul mood this morning. I have just two uni-pertinent observations:

    1. Those Japanese “bromide” baseball posters are fabulous. Thanks, Paul.

    2. I deeply hate the Jets green-top-and-green-bottom look, but it is still not as bad as the profoundly ugly getup worn by the Bills yesterday.[/quote]
    Hey, brother. Hey, my bromide. You look like a cool guy who likes to progress…

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”367854″]Why are the red sleeves and red socks not matching the navy cap a problem for the Nationals road uniforms? The Red Sox for several years have worn red sleeves and red socks with their navy caps at home…[/quote]
    Also the Cardinals on the road, but at least they both have red logos on their navy caps as opposed to the Nats’ white logo.

  • The Jeff | December 21, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”367854″]Why are the red sleeves and red socks not matching the navy cap a problem for the Nationals road uniforms? The Red Sox for several years have worn red sleeves and red socks with their navy caps at home…[/quote]

    Simple. The Red Sox are supposed to wear red socks. Therefore the normal rules don’t apply.

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”367856″][quote comment=”367854″]Why are the red sleeves and red socks not matching the navy cap a problem for the Nationals road uniforms? The Red Sox for several years have worn red sleeves and red socks with their navy caps at home…[/quote]
    Also the Cardinals on the road, but at least they both have red logos on their navy caps as opposed to the Nats’ white logo.[/quote]
    And before someone else points this out, the Red Sox on the road as well.

  • Flip | December 21, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    Love those NW stripes on the socks.
    http://farm4.static....

  • Allan Chandler | December 21, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    Ok HELP! I am looking for some notecards that were mentioned on the blog back in November. They were \”Birds of The major Leagues\” and \”Cats of the Major Legues\” Does anyone know who makes them, or can you just point me back to the day they were mentioned?

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.

  • Roger Faso | December 21, 2009 at 9:46 am |
  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”367839″]Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.[/quote]

    Ballcarrier seems to be Howard “Hopalong” Cassady.
    http://farm3.static....
    Opponent? Hmmm…could be a number of teams. Michigan State ever do mono green back then? Maybe Duke or someone? (not likely a southern team, though; one of the defenders appears to be African American). Guess place to start would be to check Buckeyes’ road schedule during Cassady’s years with them.

    Don’t know if I’ll get time here at work.

    —Ricko

  • FormerDirtDart | December 21, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    All of those NYC pics at the wirednewyork.com link are awesome. Brought me back to my childhood in the City. Never made it to Yankee Stadium during my whole life in NY (enemy territory and all) but those few pics of Shea are so familiar

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko

  • KW | December 21, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    For the custom mouthguards my guess is that most come from here http://www.opro.com/...

    Nike’s new licensing partner is going to be selling these with a Swoosh on them starting this summer

  • Kek | December 21, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”367860″]Ok HELP! I am looking for some notecards that were mentioned on the blog back in November. They were \”Birds of The major Leagues\” and \”Cats of the Major Legues\” Does anyone know who makes them, or can you just point me back to the day they were mentioned?

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.[/quote]
    Enigma isn’t the word I would use!!!!!

    I think the guys at this site have my feelings on PK nailed down: http://kissingsuzyko...

  • Mike | December 21, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    I don’t follow football, or the NFL, or whatever they’re calling it this week.

  • The Jeff | December 21, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Obviously the team just wasn’t good enough to have any shirtless fans for their first 2 seasons.

    (didn’t see the commercial)

  • Hott Rodd | December 21, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    it’s a glorified commercial, and a ridiculous one at that. Just my $.02.

  • Shane | December 21, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    So not only do multi-millionaire team owners somehow convince the public to buy them a new stadium with someone else’s tax money, but they also can convince people to work at the stadium as volunteers, i.e. free labor??? Wow, I’m in the wrong business.

  • CMP | December 21, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    Thanks for putting the Gutterson Field House (aka The Gut) item in the ticker this morning. As an alum, I am always happy to see the rare UVM-related item here on UniWatch. Go Cats Go!

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”367869″][quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    it’s a glorified commercial, and a ridiculous one at that. Just my $.02.[/quote]
    There’s another one where fans are tailgating at the Polo Grounds in 1959. I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.

    Another one is set at a Soldier Field that in no way resembles the actual place. Minor quibble, yes, but if you’re not going to bother making the stadium look like the real place, then don’t show it.

  • aflfan | December 21, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”367870″]So not only do multi-millionaire team owners somehow convince the public to buy them a new stadium with someone else’s tax money, but they also can convince people to work at the stadium as volunteers, i.e. free labor??? Wow, I’m in the wrong business.[/quote]

    And you have minor league owners like this

    http://www.mlive.com...

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”367872″][quote comment=”367869″][quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    it’s a glorified commercial, and a ridiculous one at that. Just my $.02.[/quote]
    There’s another one where fans are tailgating at the Polo Grounds in 1959. I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.

    Another one is set at a Soldier Field that in no way resembles the actual place. Minor quibble, yes, but if you’re not going to bother making the stadium look like the real place, then don’t show it.[/quote]

    Believe me, I’m not THAT riled up.

    Come to think on it as a ad guy, throwing those mistakes in there on purpose might not be a bad idea. Causal fans won’t know the difference, and they make serious fans/game historians sit up and take notice of the spot.

    Dumb like a fox, maybe.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”367874″][quote comment=”367872″][quote comment=”367869″][quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    it’s a glorified commercial, and a ridiculous one at that. Just my $.02.[/quote]
    There’s another one where fans are tailgating at the Polo Grounds in 1959. I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.

    Another one is set at a Soldier Field that in no way resembles the actual place. Minor quibble, yes, but if you’re not going to bother making the stadium look like the real place, then don’t show it.[/quote]

    Believe me, I’m not THAT riled up.

    Come to think on it as a ad guy, throwing those mistakes in there on purpose might not be a bad idea. Causal fans won’t know the difference, and they make serious fans/game historians sit up and take notice of the spot.

    Dumb like a fox, maybe.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Who’s riled up?

  • leon | December 21, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    “Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?”
    Even if it weren’t chock full of anachronisms, it is advertising crap at it’s worst (saying alot) dreamed up by someone(s) with shit for brains. I praise the inventor of the mute button when I am unfortunate enough to be viewing when it comes on:thank goodness the ESPN mouthpiece smugly warns of it’s impending broadcast. It’s unfortunate when compared to the really good stuff of which they are capable.

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”367870″]So not only do multi-millionaire team owners somehow convince the public to buy them a new stadium with someone else’s tax money, but they also can convince people to work at the stadium as volunteers, i.e. free labor??? Wow, I’m in the wrong business.[/quote]

    Indeed, and being a truly civic-minded soul such as the late Carl Pohlad of the Twins, you also can say, “Sure, if you give me $75 million I’ll ‘contract” my team and go home.”

    And now we know. You CAN put a price on that kind of commitment to a community.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    “Who’s riled up?

    Meant me. Saying wasn’t as indignant as I might have sounded in my apparent “dismay” over Toyota’s Minnesota anachronisms.

    —Ricko

  • Roger Faso | December 21, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”367861″]Ho lee crap!

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Did no one notice?! Top row? Far left?

    oh nevermind.

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”367878″]”Who’s riled up?

    Meant me. Saying wasn’t as indignant as I might have sounded in my apparent “dismay” over Toyota’s Minnesota anachronisms.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Oh, I knew you were referring to yourself. I just meant that I didn’t interpret your original post as having that kind of tone. It came across to me as tongue-in-cheek.

  • Ronnie Poore | December 21, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”367847″]I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T[/quote]

    i vote for the black jerseys to be the standard Ravens home shirt. they look much better than the purple

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”367878″]”Who’s riled up?

    Meant me. Saying wasn’t as indignant as I might have sounded in my apparent “dismay” over Toyota’s Minnesota anachronisms.[/quote]

    *wipes brow*…phew

    was bracing for worse

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”367873″][quote comment=”367870″]So not only do multi-millionaire team owners somehow convince the public to buy them a new stadium with someone else’s tax money, but they also can convince people to work at the stadium as volunteers, i.e. free labor??? Wow, I’m in the wrong business.[/quote]

    And you have minor league owners like this

    http://www.mlive.com...
    His name is really Peter South?

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”367883″]His name is really Peter South?[/quote]

    north was taken?

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”367884″][quote comment=”367883″]His name is really Peter South?[/quote]

    north was taken?[/quote]

    Yes. So was Built.

  • Tony Miller | December 21, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”367872″]I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.[/quote]

    Nobody did. The baseball Giants moved after ’57. The Titans didn’t arrive until ’60, and the Mets dressed out there beginning in ’62.

    So from 9/29/57 to 9/11/60, no team called that stadium home.

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”367886″][quote comment=”367872″]I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.[/quote]

    Nobody did. The baseball Giants moved after ’57. The Titans didn’t arrive until ’60, and the Mets dressed out there beginning in ’62.

    So from 9/29/57 to 9/11/60, no team called that stadium home.[/quote]

    Interesting stat from Bills at Titans…
    Bills completed only 5 passes.

    And nobody had a shoe deal. Or a uni deal.
    Or analyzed a replay.

    And yet, somehow, people don’t get that the game changes, and keeps on changing, that defining “always” based on our individual lifetime it just….being ignorant at worst, presumptive at best.

    —Ricko

  • Stuby | December 21, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”367872″][quote comment=”367869″][quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    it’s a glorified commercial, and a ridiculous one at that. Just my $.02.[/quote]
    There’s another one where fans are tailgating at the Polo Grounds in 1959. I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.

    Another one is set at a Soldier Field that in no way resembles the actual place. Minor quibble, yes, but if you’re not going to bother making the stadium look like the real place, then don’t show it.[/quote]
    Pretty much every commercial that features an exterior shot of a football stadium is shot at the LA Coliseum. It shows up a lot.

    http://farm4.static....

  • Josh | December 21, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”367860″]

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.[/quote]

    Here’s what King said:
    “c. America, you’re lucky the Rams ditched those uniforms of a decade ago — the Greatest Show on Turf unis. Hideous. Memo to Rams: Please eliminate them from all future Throwback games, or call them Throwup Games if you use them again. They should all be incinerated.

  • Bob Loblaw | December 21, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    It’s clear to me that Peter King has indeed jumped the shark—but how? catapult?

    Judging from that picture w/ his bbf Tony Romo, King’s recent relocation to Boston’s North-end has NOT helped his waistline much.

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”367889″][quote comment=”367860″]

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.[/quote]

    Here’s what King said:
    “c. America, you’re lucky the Rams ditched those uniforms of a decade ago — the Greatest Show on Turf unis. Hideous. Memo to Rams: Please eliminate them from all future Throwback games, or call them Throwup Games if you use them again. They should all be incinerated.[/quote]
    Don’t forget. This is the same man who predicted a Super Bowl XX rematch with the Pats getting the upper hand this time around.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”367879″][quote comment=”367861″]Ho lee crap!

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Did no one notice?! Top row? Far left?

    oh nevermind.[/quote]

    yeah…um…why’s that b&w different than the color pic?

  • The Jeff | December 21, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”367892″][quote comment=”367879″][quote comment=”367861″]Ho lee crap!

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Did no one notice?! Top row? Far left?

    oh nevermind.[/quote]

    yeah…um…why’s that b&w different than the color pic?[/quote]

    For one, the color pic doesn’t have a face poorly photoshopped into it.

    I’m not entirely sure whose face it’s supposed to be though.

  • interlockingtc | December 21, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    Those 1970’s New York photos are amazing. Can’t get enough.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”367893″]
    For one, the color pic doesn’t have a face poorly photoshopped into it.

    I’m not entirely sure whose face it’s supposed to be though.[/quote]

    i know that…im asking WHY is it different (in other words, why is the B&W changed)…probably could have worded it better

    looks like matsui

  • Roger Faso | December 21, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”367895″][quote comment=”367893″]
    For one, the color pic doesn’t have a face poorly photoshopped into it.

    I’m not entirely sure whose face it’s supposed to be though.[/quote]

    i know that…im asking WHY is it different (in other words, why is the B&W changed)…probably could have worded it better

    looks like matsui[/quote]

    http://www.uniwatchb...

    ugh

  • The Jeff | December 21, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”367896″][quote comment=”367895″][quote comment=”367893″]
    For one, the color pic doesn’t have a face poorly photoshopped into it.

    I’m not entirely sure whose face it’s supposed to be though.[/quote]

    i know that…im asking WHY is it different (in other words, why is the B&W changed)…probably could have worded it better

    looks like matsui[/quote]

    http://www.uniwatchb...

    ugh[/quote]

    ugh indeed.

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”367891″][quote comment=”367889″][quote comment=”367860″]

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.[/quote]

    Here’s what King said:
    “c. America, you’re lucky the Rams ditched those uniforms of a decade ago — the Greatest Show on Turf unis. Hideous. Memo to Rams: Please eliminate them from all future Throwback games, or call them Throwup Games if you use them again. They should all be incinerated.[/quote]
    Don’t forget. This is the same man who predicted a Super Bowl XX rematch with the Pats getting the upper hand this time around.[/quote]

    I dunno, those unis looked pretty good on Eric Dickerson, for one. And Harold Jackson and John Williams and… (you get the point).

    Don’t really understand King’s rant mentality about them. Did he, like, not notice them back then? Were they just as awful back then but he kept his thoughts to himself? Or do additional opinions form after you get a high-profile national soapbox (y’know, as in, “I’m somebody now, I need to have an opinion on something today. Hmmm, what should it be?”).

    —Ricko

  • tODD | December 21, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    OchoCinco looked totally “me-first” out there after that TD, didn’t he? Good thing he took advantage of his friend’s death to promote himself, right? I think you guys need to be a little less judging in calling a player out when he is trying to do what he can to honor a fallen friend. When you have a stage, you have it. Bet you guys hate Bono, too.

  • leon | December 21, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”367895″][quote comment=”367893″]
    For one, the color pic doesn’t have a face poorly photoshopped into it.

    I’m not entirely sure whose face it’s supposed to be though.[/quote]

    i know that…im asking WHY is it different (in other words, why is the B&W changed)…probably could have worded it better

    looks like matsui[/quote]

    Perhaps it’s related to the fact the caption is in Spanish.

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”367899″]OchoCinco looked totally “me-first” out there after that TD, didn’t he? Good thing he took advantage of his friend’s death to promote himself, right? I think you guys need to be a little less judging in calling a player out when he is trying to do what he can to honor a fallen friend. When you have a stage, you have it. Bet you guys hate Bono, too.[/quote]

    Whoever wails loudest and longest at the funeral service is the one feeling the most grief, is the most sincere about their emotions, right? I mean, that’s how you can always tell. Cuz, y’know, they’re so overcome with emotion they don’t even realize that everyone is paying attention to them.

    —Ricko

  • Thomas Clark | December 21, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    I think Ochocinco loses the benefit of the doubt in the public eye because of all of his previous antics. Same thing with TO when he cried for Tony Romo. They both might be honest, heartfelt gestures, however in the court of public opinion they are nothing more than an act aimed at garnering themselves more spotlight.

    As far as the old school Rams’ unis go, I dislike them as well, but only because I feel that yellow (not gold) washes out any other color it is with and renders them looking like something from the bargain bin at your local dollar store. I feel the same way about the Packers, Athletics, and pretty much any other team that wears yellow and green.

  • Stuby | December 21, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”367899″]OchoCinco looked totally “me-first” out there after that TD, didn’t he? Good thing he took advantage of his friend’s death to promote himself, right? I think you guys need to be a little less judging in calling a player out when he is trying to do what he can to honor a fallen friend. When you have a stage, you have it. Bet you guys hate Bono, too.[/quote]
    Sonny or Steve?

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”367899″]OchoCinco looked totally “me-first” out there after that TD, didn’t he? Good thing he took advantage of his friend’s death to promote himself, right? I think you guys need to be a little less judging in calling a player out when he is trying to do what he can to honor a fallen friend. When you have a stage, you have it. Bet you guys hate Bono, too.[/quote]

    NOTHING eight-five does isn’t predetermined

    he is the biggest LOOK AT ME athlete in the history of such prima donnas…and nothing he does will convince me otherwise

    he may truly have felt a loss with chris henry’s unfortunate passing, i honestly don’t know whether or not he did

    but like the boy who cried wolf and henny penny, i find it just another cheap opportunity to have the spotlight shown on himself

    i hope im wrong…but until he proves otherwise, i’ll stick with my first impression

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    We do realize that if we express a predisposition to not like a certain color we mitigate our credibility as a uni critic.

    Like the guy whose ridiculous “Ten Worst” List we linked to a while back. Had Chiefs on his list because “I dislike red uniforms”.

    Um, he decorating his apartment or evaluating a design?
    Because his personal taste means something in the former, but not in the latter.
    Liking or disliking lime green should have NOTHING to do with evaluating the effectiveness of H&R Block’s logo.

    Such things are always there, of course. It’s the degree to which we can set them aside that affects the validity of our opinions.

    —Ricko

  • Jeff P | December 21, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    I just have to say, looking at this shot reminds me just how much the NYS designers got it right. There are certainly differences, but that facade just feels right.

    On another note, lay off Ochocinco. As the guys on sportscenter last night were noting, He played with Henry for 4 years or so and they were apparently best friends (both WR, makes sense they would know each other pretty well). People deal with grief in different ways. If he wants to make a public recognition of his best friend, that’s his right.

  • Wes | December 21, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    The color photos from the 30’s are amazing! I love seeing color pictures from that era, just because you normally see so few of them. I was recently browsing lileks.com (great time waster), which has a section devoted to the 1930’s, including a catalog of some very colorful kitchen designs of the day. Lileks makes the point that there was indeed color in design back in those days. The common B&W images of the era almost overstate the level of depression during the Depression. It wasn’t all gray skies, black cars and gray and black clothes. I always find it interesting to see actual visual evidence of that.

    Here’s the lileks link…
    http://www.lileks.co...

  • Roger Faso | December 21, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”367899″]OchoCinco looked totally “me-first” out there after that TD, didn’t he? Good thing he took advantage of his friend’s death to promote himself, right? I think you guys need to be a little less judging in calling a player out when he is trying to do what he can to honor a fallen friend. When you have a stage, you have it. Bet you guys hate Bono, too.[/quote]

    I don’t hate Bono. However, he’s jumped the shark so many times, I’ve lost count.

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”367906″]I just have to say, looking at this shot reminds me just how much the NYS designers got it right. There are certainly differences, but that facade just feels right.

    On another note, lay off Ochocinco. As the guys on sportscenter last night were noting, He played with Henry for 4 years or so and they were apparently best friends (both WR, makes sense they would know each other pretty well). People deal with grief in different ways. If he wants to make a public recognition of his best friend, that’s his right.[/quote]
    If COC had just worn the jersey without saying anything about it beforehand and then dealt with the subsequent punishment handed down from the NFL without any further comment, then maybe more people would be giving him the benefit of the doubt.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”367905″]We do realize that if we express a predisposition to not like a certain color we mitigate our credibility as a uni critic.
    [/quote]

    like say, purple?

    not sure im buying this one

  • Jeff P | December 21, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”367909″][quote comment=”367906″]I just have to say, looking at this shot reminds me just how much the NYS designers got it right. There are certainly differences, but that facade just feels right.

    On another note, lay off Ochocinco. As the guys on sportscenter last night were noting, He played with Henry for 4 years or so and they were apparently best friends (both WR, makes sense they would know each other pretty well). People deal with grief in different ways. If he wants to make a public recognition of his best friend, that’s his right.[/quote]
    If COC had just worn the jersey without saying anything about it beforehand and then dealt with the subsequent punishment handed down from the NFL without any further comment, then maybe more people would be giving him the benefit of the doubt.[/quote]

    So because he wanted to make sure it was okay first and see if he could get the NFL to let him wear it without fining him 100K for honoring his best friend he’s the villan?

    I cannot in anyway endorse that viewpoint.

  • DenverGregg | December 21, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”367907″]The color photos from the 30’s are amazing! I love seeing color pictures from that era, just because you normally see so few of them. I was recently browsing lileks.com (great time waster), which has a section devoted to the 1930’s, including a catalog of some very colorful kitchen designs of the day. Lileks makes the point that there was indeed color in design back in those days. The common B&W images of the era almost overstate the level of depression during the Depression. It wasn’t all gray skies, black cars and gray and black clothes. I always find it interesting to see actual visual evidence of that.

    Here’s the lileks link…
    http://www.lileks.co...
    Glad there’s another out there who enjoys both this site and Lileks’. /Mr_Lilacs

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”367910″][quote comment=”367905″]We do realize that if we express a predisposition to not like a certain color we mitigate our credibility as a uni critic.
    [/quote]

    like say, purple?

    not sure im buying this one[/quote]

    It’s about whether the color and the design work, not about the evaluator’s personal opinion of the colors involved.

    If someone hates kelly green and consistently hates the unis of teams called “Irish” or “Shamrocks,” or rips every promotional piece for any St. Patrick’s Day promotion, shouldn’t we start to wonder if some of the items might actually have been pretty good, but the critic was unable to set his predisposition aside?

    (There is one color I can’t STAND on unis, but I defy anyone here to say they’ve figured out what it is. You just have ignore your preferences at look at the design in front of you.)

    If we admit a “hatred” going in, or let it show in what we say, all we do is put ourselves squarely on the credibility trap door.

    I’ll say it again. If a movie critic had openly said, “I hate everything about Clint Eastwood”…how could we trust him if his review of INVICTUS was negative? Or of any film that had a sort of Eastwood style?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”367911″][quote comment=”367909″][quote comment=”367906″]I just have to say, looking at this shot reminds me just how much the NYS designers got it right. There are certainly differences, but that facade just feels right.

    On another note, lay off Ochocinco. As the guys on sportscenter last night were noting, He played with Henry for 4 years or so and they were apparently best friends (both WR, makes sense they would know each other pretty well). People deal with grief in different ways. If he wants to make a public recognition of his best friend, that’s his right.[/quote]
    If COC had just worn the jersey without saying anything about it beforehand and then dealt with the subsequent punishment handed down from the NFL without any further comment, then maybe more people would be giving him the benefit of the doubt.[/quote]

    So because he wanted to make sure it was okay first and see if he could get the NFL to let him wear it without fining him 100K for honoring his best friend he’s the villan?

    I cannot in anyway endorse that viewpoint.[/quote]

    It comes down to this. Either you believe grief is a personal, private thing, or you believe it should be expressed for all the world to see.

    Not much more to the discussion than that.

    So maybe everyone should pick the position that works for them, and we’ll move on.

    Hopefully with no more patches or number-wearing for season-ending knee injuries. Such things are just childish and moronic. Period. There is NO other side of that discussion.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”367911″][quote comment=”367909″][quote comment=”367906″]I just have to say, looking at this shot reminds me just how much the NYS designers got it right. There are certainly differences, but that facade just feels right.

    On another note, lay off Ochocinco. As the guys on sportscenter last night were noting, He played with Henry for 4 years or so and they were apparently best friends (both WR, makes sense they would know each other pretty well). People deal with grief in different ways. If he wants to make a public recognition of his best friend, that’s his right.[/quote]
    If COC had just worn the jersey without saying anything about it beforehand and then dealt with the subsequent punishment handed down from the NFL without any further comment, then maybe more people would be giving him the benefit of the doubt.[/quote]

    So because he wanted to make sure it was okay first and see if he could get the NFL to let him wear it without fining him 100K for honoring his best friend he’s the villan?

    I cannot in anyway endorse that viewpoint.[/quote]
    I never said he’s a villain. I happen to like Chad.

    I do feel that it was an attention-seeking gesture on his part because he knew damn well that it would under no circumstances be OK with the NFL for him to wear the jersey.

  • Dank | December 21, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”367847″]I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T[/quote]

    No doubt to me it is a MUCH better look. If the Ravens made these there full time homes, they would be one of the Top 10 unis in the league IMO.

    I’m also in the camp that likes the new Rams unis better than the throwbacks. I don’t think the throwbacks are ugly at all (though I do agree with the earlier poster about making the helmets and shirts matcha bit more, though if they are TRUE throwbacks tehya re proably more accurate this way). But their current set, when they wear the dark jerseys over the solid gold pants, is my favorite NFL uni.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”367874″][quote comment=”367872″][quote comment=”367869″][quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    it’s a glorified commercial, and a ridiculous one at that. Just my $.02.[/quote]
    There’s another one where fans are tailgating at the Polo Grounds in 1959. I’m not sure who played there in ’59, but I’m pretty sure it was not an NFL team.

    Another one is set at a Soldier Field that in no way resembles the actual place. Minor quibble, yes, but if you’re not going to bother making the stadium look like the real place, then don’t show it.[/quote]

    Believe me, I’m not THAT riled up.

    Come to think on it as a ad guy, throwing those mistakes in there on purpose might not be a bad idea. Causal fans won’t know the difference, and they make serious fans/game historians sit up and take notice of the spot.

    Dumb like a fox, maybe.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Only problem with that is, it will end up being used as a real historical reference in the future. Those who don’t know better will take it at face value, and those who trust everything they see on TV will believe it.

    Then, there are those easily influenced by the media, like my mother. She won’t eat spaghetti on Sunday, but she does on Wednesdays, because that’s Prince spaghetti day, of course. http://www.youtube.c...

    If you’re going to be historically inaccurate, then be WAY off. Say the guys mistaken for the Beatles were watching the real Vikings fight the British during the War of 1812. Then only the hopelessly uneducated will be duped.

  • tODD | December 21, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    Thomas Clark said
    [quote comment=”367902″]I think Ochocinco loses the benefit of the doubt in the public eye because of all of his previous antics. Same thing with TO when he cried for Tony Romo. They both might be honest, heartfelt gestures, however in the court of public opinion they are nothing more than an act aimed at garnering themselves more spotlight.[/quote]

    I don’t think it is fair to link him to TO crying because his QB is being ripped apart. 85 loses a friend and a teammate and he loses credibility as an emotional human because he has fun on the field? That is BS, if you ask me. He didn’t do anything dramatic, just dedicated a game to his friend. I don’t see how that is worthy of bashing. I really don’t see anything he did in this is meant for him to get more in the spotlight, instead he used the fact that he is in the spotlight to throw some light on Henry’s passing.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”367917″]Those who don’t know better will take it at face value, and those who trust everything they see on TV will believe it.[/quote]

    that’s just sad

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”367847″]I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T[/quote]

    Not a big fan of black unis, but it does make sense with the Ravens. In fact, they’re one of the few teams where I’d say the leotard look is okay.
    http://kaweahoaks.co...
    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Besides, I’d rather see them in all black than the Steelers.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”367919″][quote comment=”367917″]Those who don’t know better will take it at face value, and those who trust everything they see on TV will believe it.[/quote]

    that’s just sad[/quote]

    But true.

  • ScottyM | December 21, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    What a bad idea to have stadium ushers be volunteer schoolkids. And they’ll be able to deal with unruly fans how? And they’ll know the ins and outs of the stadium, right?

    Oh, actually, I take it all back. That means we can buy the cheap seats and scope out empties in the lower bowl … no kid’s going to maintain a firm grip on seatjackers, right?

  • Samuel | December 21, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    Brandon Marshall wearing the “Henry” nameplate must have been an old one from former Bronco Travis Henry

  • Giancarlo | December 21, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    You know what’s some good color photography from the 1930s? The Wizard of Oz. Also that Robin Hood movie with Errol Flynn… that was back when real men wore kelly green.

  • aflfan | December 21, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”367922″]What a bad idea to have stadium ushers be volunteer schoolkids. And they’ll be able to deal with unruly fans how? And they’ll know the ins and outs of the stadium, right?

    Oh, actually, I take it all back. That means we can buy the cheap seats and scope out empties in the lower bowl … no kid’s going to maintain a firm grip on seatjackers, right?[/quote]

    Trust me for the Generals there are two prices $12 and $10 and Perini Arena is not that big. I have worked several high school hockey tournament in the arena.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”367853″][quote comment=”367842″]People here have complained about Boise St.\’s blue (shirt) on blue (pants) on blue (field) and even green on green on green. Well, I was watching the 1860 Munich vs. Union Berlin soccer game this weekend it was tough to watch Union\’s white on white on white (snow). The teams were very distinguishable but Union and the ground were not. This is the best picture I could find but it was snow looks much worse from above:

    http://img.abendzeit...

    If you want tough white on white on white in a partial snowstorm? I present the 2000 independence bowl where Mississippi State went white clad.

    http://www.mmbolding...

    I remember that bowl game. Cool snowfall, but yeah, the white unis in the snow look just as bad as Boise State at home. The Ravens’ all-blacks would look good in the snow, though.

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”367918″]Thomas Clark said
    [quote comment=”367902″]I think Ochocinco loses the benefit of the doubt in the public eye because of all of his previous antics. Same thing with TO when he cried for Tony Romo. They both might be honest, heartfelt gestures, however in the court of public opinion they are nothing more than an act aimed at garnering themselves more spotlight.[/quote]

    I don’t think it is fair to link him to TO crying because his QB is being ripped apart. 85 loses a friend and a teammate and he loses credibility as an emotional human because he has fun on the field? That is BS, if you ask me. He didn’t do anything dramatic, just dedicated a game to his friend. I don’t see how that is worthy of bashing. I really don’t see anything he did in this is meant for him to get more in the spotlight, instead he used the fact that he is in the spotlight to throw some light on Henry’s passing.[/quote]

    He didn’t think everyone already knew?

    So we are to believe that, at the moment he went to one knee yesterday, Ocho Cinco was thinking only of Chris Henry and not that everyone in the stadium was watching him right then, and that the highlight would be all over ESPN?

    Probably so, because Ocho Cinco knows nothing of how the media handles such things.

    The honest shot, the real human reaction, was of him crying when he got back to the sidelines with the other Bengals. They lost a teammate, too. The tenderness is in their shared sorrow, not in measuring the grief–or the tributes–individual by individual.

    —Ricko

  • aflfan | December 21, 2009 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”367922″]What a bad idea to have stadium ushers be volunteer schoolkids. And they’ll be able to deal with unruly fans how? And they’ll know the ins and outs of the stadium, right?

    Oh, actually, I take it all back. That means we can buy the cheap seats and scope out empties in the lower bowl … no kid’s going to maintain a firm grip on seatjackers, right?[/quote]

    But I do agree with you.

  • Thomas Clark | December 21, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”367925″][quote comment=”367922″]What a bad idea to have stadium ushers be volunteer schoolkids. And they’ll be able to deal with unruly fans how? And they’ll know the ins and outs of the stadium, right?

    Oh, actually, I take it all back. That means we can buy the cheap seats and scope out empties in the lower bowl … no kid’s going to maintain a firm grip on seatjackers, right?[/quote]

    Trust me for the Generals there are two prices $12 and $10 and Perini Arena is not that big. I have worked several high school hockey tournament in the arena.[/quote]

    Yeah, it holds 4,400 w/ standing room. I grew up in Flint and there aren’t many fans going anymore.

  • aflfan | December 21, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”367929″][quote comment=”367925″][quote comment=”367922″]What a bad idea to have stadium ushers be volunteer schoolkids. And they’ll be able to deal with unruly fans how? And they’ll know the ins and outs of the stadium, right?

    Oh, actually, I take it all back. That means we can buy the cheap seats and scope out empties in the lower bowl … no kid’s going to maintain a firm grip on seatjackers, right?[/quote]

    Trust me for the Generals there are two prices $12 and $10 and Perini Arena is not that big. I have worked several high school hockey tournament in the arena.[/quote]

    Yeah, it holds 4,400 w/ standing room. I grew up in Flint and there aren’t many fans going anymore.[/quote]

    Not the way they have been treated the last few seasons by the parade of owners that have gone through there.

  • Thomas Clark | December 21, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    It really is pretty sad…but Flint has been a haven for bad owners since Skip Probst brought the Bulldogs in in the early 90’s.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    Ricko said:
    (There is one color I can’t STAND on unis, but I defy anyone here to say they’ve figured out what it is. You just have ignore your preferences at look at the design in front of you.)

    Royal blue?

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”367932″]Ricko said:
    (There is one color I can’t STAND on unis, but I defy anyone here to say they’ve figured out what it is. You just have ignore your preferences at look at the design in front of you.)

    Royal blue?[/quote]

    Oh, hell, no. Love the Colts, and first SD Chargers, for example. Picked the late ’50s/early’60s Cubs back when we did that “best uni your favorite team ever wore” thing.

    There’s one particular color I don’t much care for, but would never say a team should never wear it. And, actually, a number of teams have had some pretty great-looking unis using it.

    My lips is sealed. ;)

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”367878″]”Who’s riled up?

    Meant me. Saying wasn’t as indignant as I might have sounded in my apparent “dismay” over Toyota’s Minnesota anachronisms.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The Minnesota Anachronisms…wasn’t that an arena league team?

    Given the way the Vikes have played the last two weeks, you could call them the Anachronisms whenever they’re scheduled to play in prime time. ;)

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”367934″][quote comment=”367878″]”Who’s riled up?

    Meant me. Saying wasn’t as indignant as I might have sounded in my apparent “dismay” over Toyota’s Minnesota anachronisms.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The Minnesota Anachronisms…wasn’t that an arena league team?

    Given the way the Vikes have played the last two weeks, you could call them the Anachronisms whenever they’re scheduled to play in prime time. ;)[/quote]

    Right now, looking very much like a “one-and-done” playoff team.

    Tell you what, the Carolina secondary played as well as I’ve seen a secondary play in a long, long time. Favre often had ample time to throw and there was just nuthin’ coming open. Although I did wonder who no screens…one of which to Peterson worked well late in game.

    Y’know, it isn’t always that you sucked tonight. Sometimes the other guys just played better (also see: Cowboys vs. Saints).

    —Ricko

  • ZachBrady | December 21, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    I couldn’t sleep last night and I got a tweet that said OchoCinco was doing a live UStream at about 1:30 in the morning. Someone asked him about wearing Henry’s jersey. He said that once ESPN was making such a big deal about it, he decided not to do it anymore because he didn’t want it to be a big spectacle. He didn’t want it to be about him.

    Also… on gameday he asked the equipment manager for Henry’s jersey just so he could try it on over his shoulder pads. OchoCinco wears a size 40, and Henry wears a 48, so Chad said he wouldn’t have been able to wear it in the game anyway. It fit him like a really baggy dress.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”367933″][quote comment=”367932″]Ricko said:
    (There is one color I can’t STAND on unis, but I defy anyone here to say they’ve figured out what it is. You just have ignore your preferences at look at the design in front of you.)

    Royal blue?[/quote]

    Oh, hell, no. Love the Colts, and first SD Chargers, for example. Picked the late ’50s/early’60s Cubs back when we did that “best uni your favorite team ever wore” thing.

    There’s one particular color I don’t much care for, but would never say a team should never wear it. And, actually, a number of teams have had some pretty great-looking unis using it.

    My lips is sealed. ;)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was just going with that color since yesterday you said royal blue tights only work on Superman and cheerleaders. Otherwise I’m stumped.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”367936″]He said that once ESPN was making such a big deal about it, he decided not to do it anymore because he didn’t want it to be a big spectacle. He didn’t want it to be about him.[/quote]

    exactly, nothing he does is ever about him

    even the ustream conferences he calls at 1:30 in the morning…to announce that the spectacle he didn’t create wasn’t about him

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    By the way, it’s official now (well, it has been for about an hour),

    Happy Winter!

    Time to go outside and throw the First Pitch of the season.
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Kek | December 21, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    tODD, you’re fighting the good fight, and I happen to agree with you, but I’m afraid you’re not going to get some of the more grizzled veterans to see it that way regarding Chad.

    We went through this with Sean Taylor and on a different level, Mike Vick.

  • Thomas Clark | December 21, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    Todd, my only point was that he loses in the court of public opinion. The interview he gave immediately following the news of Henry’s death was real (at least in my eyes) and showed there is a different side to 8-5. The problem is that he’s spent so long cultivating the “Ochocinco” persona that when he wants to do something that isn’t based in showboating or is really a heartfelt gesture (which the urge to wear 15 very well could have been) it is lost in everything else he’s done.

    I do think the biggest part of what 8-5 wanted to do was based on the friendship for Henry, but I also think he approached it terribly wrong.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    Odd situation:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    I know other coaches have left college teams before a bowl, but has this ever happened – the interim coach will handle the bowl game, even though a successor has already been signed, AND the interim coach has just been signed to coach another team? Not really uni-related, but oh well.

  • al | December 21, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    Just thinking that in the year 2009, the bears would have figured out how to make their arm stripes uniform looking … http://a.espncdn.com...

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”367862″][quote comment=”367839″]Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.[/quote]

    Ballcarrier seems to be Howard “Hopalong” Cassady.
    http://farm3.static....
    Opponent? Hmmm…could be a number of teams. Michigan State ever do mono green back then? Maybe Duke or someone? (not likely a southern team, though; one of the defenders appears to be African American). Guess place to start would be to check Buckeyes’ road schedule during Cassady’s years with them.

    Don’t know if I’ll get time here at work.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That is Hop Cassady of Ohio State and pretty sure the game is at Wisconsin

  • Jet | December 21, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    I’m guessing Ricko doesn’t like yellow unis. No basis for the guess.

  • duker | December 21, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”367881″][quote comment=”367847″]I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T[/quote]

    i vote for the black jerseys to be the standard Ravens home shirt. they look much better than the purple[/quote]

    Just because Paul hates purple doesn’t mean that everyone else has to. I think the purple gives the Ravens a unique identity. Sure they share it with the Vikings, but black is shared with the archival Steelers as well as the Panthers, Raiders, Eagles (alts), Saints, and Falcons (did i miss anyone?).

    I really hate that pretty much every team in MLB is either red or blue or both. I love that the Orioles only share Orange with the Giants and some trim on the Mets (or is that all black now too?)

    I like that the Ravens bring out the black jerseys once or twice a year. In fact I also liked the full black uniforms. Sure they looked like full body leotards individually, but as a team when watching the game at the stadium it looks incredibly menacing.

  • leon | December 21, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    There’s one particular color I don’t much care for, but would never say a team should never wear it. And, actually, a number of teams have had some pretty great-looking unis using it.

    My lips is sealed. ;)

    —Ricko

    Thought you liked all colors:

    http://www.uniwatchb...

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”367947″]There’s one particular color I don’t much care for, but would never say a team should never wear it. And, actually, a number of teams have had some pretty great-looking unis using it.

    My lips is sealed. ;)

    —Ricko

    Thought you liked all colors:

    http://www.uniwatchb...

    I’d wear that uni.

    (and you made fun of my Christmas getup, Ricko…)

  • Todd | December 21, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”367940″]tODD, you’re fighting the good fight, and I happen to agree with you, but I’m afraid you’re not going to get some of the more grizzled veterans to see it that way regarding Chad.

    We went through this with Sean Taylor and on a different level, Mike Vick.[/quote]

    Thanks, I see that now. I guess Chad’s past disgressions have made everyone who doesn’t like him and his antics continue to look for the tiniest bit of selfishness in everything he does. I can agree to a point that he can go a little over the top, but it is a sport first to me, and always will be. You should have fun playing sports, not take it so serious that you expect every player on the field to be robotic. Players show emotions and leave everything they have on the field while playing for themselves, their fans, their family, etc while pulling strength from everything around them. Reminds me of a few weeks ago when Phil used poor wording in a Tebow post after FL lost the SEC Championship. Stop expecting these players to be one dimensional robots on the field and you won’t get so offended by their actions.

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    http://images.librar...

    That was game action from Ohio State at Wisconsin 1955.

    Wisconsin wore red helmets and white helmets in 1955.

  • Geeman | December 21, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    http://farm4.static....

    Is this the only time the Vikes have ever worn all-purple?

  • Mike Engle | December 21, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    I’m guessing Ricko doesn’t like metallic gold.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”367951″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3426779640_3dcc827a9f_o.jpg

    Is this the only time the Vikes have ever worn all-purple?[/quote]

    sadly, no

  • Geeman | December 21, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”367952″]I’m guessing Ricko doesn’t like metallic gold.[/quote]

    OD Green, same color as the unis from his Army conscription days. :)

  • Geeman | December 21, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”367953″][quote comment=”367951″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3426779640_3dcc827a9f_o.jpg

    Is this the only time the Vikes have ever worn all-purple?[/quote]

    sadly, no[/quote]

    Sadly, indeed. Man, they used to ahve great unis. Loved the old all-whites with the LSU stripes.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”367955″][quote comment=”367953″][quote comment=”367951″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3426779640_3dcc827a9f_o.jpg

    Is this the only time the Vikes have ever worn all-purple?[/quote]

    sadly, no[/quote]

    Sadly, indeed. Man, they used to ahve great unis. Loved the old all-whites with the LSU stripes.[/quote]

    still, tho…that all purple actually looks better than this mess

    seriously…D-III teams dress better than those outfits

  • Kek | December 21, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”367949″][quote comment=”367940″]tODD, you’re fighting the good fight, and I happen to agree with you, but I’m afraid you’re not going to get some of the more grizzled veterans to see it that way regarding Chad.

    We went through this with Sean Taylor and on a different level, Mike Vick.[/quote]

    Thanks, I see that now. I guess Chad’s past disgressions have made everyone who doesn’t like him and his antics continue to look for the tiniest bit of selfishness in everything he does. I can agree to a point that he can go a little over the top, but it is a sport first to me, and always will be. You should have fun playing sports, not take it so serious that you expect every player on the field to be robotic. Players show emotions and leave everything they have on the field while playing for themselves, their fans, their family, etc while pulling strength from everything around them. Reminds me of a few weeks ago when Phil used poor wording in a Tebow post after FL lost the SEC Championship. Stop expecting these players to be one dimensional robots on the field and you won’t get so offended by their actions.[/quote]
    Yeah, I guess we’re too concern with our own preconceived notions and opinions of people to question whether what they might do is genuine.

    I’m surprised no ever brings up when Johnny U died, the Colts were still wearing white shoes and Manning wanted to wear the black high tops in honor of him, but the league said he’d get a stiff fine and Manning said he didn’t want the distraction. Conversely, Chris Redman did wear black hightops and took the fine.

    This is Peyton “i’ve never met a product I wouldn’t pitch” Manning. But no one said anything like it was a “look at me” gesture.

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”367948″][quote comment=”367947″]There’s one particular color I don’t much care for, but would never say a team should never wear it. And, actually, a number of teams have had some pretty great-looking unis using it.

    My lips is sealed. ;)

    —Ricko

    Thought you liked all colors:

    http://www.uniwatchb...

    I’d wear that uni.

    (and you made fun of my Christmas getup, Ricko…)[/quote]

    Well, yes, there is the “intentional badness” notion, too, isn’t there.

    I may have to contemplate listing the colors of jerseys/unis I’ve NOT worn somewhere along the line among baseball, softball, football (touch leagues and tackle), broomball, baseketball and volleyball. Should be a very short list.

    Well, for starters, I’ve played for teams that have worn a jersey in every color shown in that photo except one.

    Plus black, forest, navy, white (of course), Air Force blue, gray, khaki (Vegas gold sorta), brown, maroon, burgundy, powder blue…

    Hmmm, looks like out of the usual uniform colors, I’ve missed only teal and burnt orange. That I can think of right now, anyway. Well, no oddballs like lavender or pink, either.

    Still had most of the jerseys ’til a few years ago, too.

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | December 21, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    Those Rams throwbacks are gorgeous.

    If I could figure out how to correctly do the horns at the shoulder, I would be hard at work making a DIY sweatshirt.

  • MPowers1634 | December 21, 2009 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”367959″]Those Rams throwbacks are gorgeous.

    If I could figure out how to correctly do the horns at the shoulder, I would be hard at work making a DIY sweatshirt.[/quote]

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Although, the horn starts at the seam below the armpit and spirals to the outside of the sleeve….hmmmm

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”367959″]Those Rams throwbacks are gorgeous.

    If I could figure out how to correctly do the horns at the shoulder, I would be hard at work making a DIY sweatshirt.[/quote]

    I’m thinking you could pencil sketch the horns while someone’s wearing the sweatshirt, then use fabric paint. A lot more work than I’d be willing to do now, but maybe someday…

  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”367952″]I’m guessing Ricko doesn’t like metallic gold.[/quote]

    Nah, love the original Saints, for example.
    Or the ’80s Blue Bombers, Niners and Washington Huskies, to name a few.

    Besides, even if someone figures it out, I ain’t sayin’.

    It really comes down to there being a color that, if I were assigned to design a uni with it, I’d be less that thrilled….but I’d make it work.

    —Ricko

    —Ricko

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”367957″][quote comment=”367949″][quote comment=”367940″]tODD, you’re fighting the good fight, and I happen to agree with you, but I’m afraid you’re not going to get some of the more grizzled veterans to see it that way regarding Chad.

    We went through this with Sean Taylor and on a different level, Mike Vick.[/quote]

    Thanks, I see that now. I guess Chad’s past disgressions have made everyone who doesn’t like him and his antics continue to look for the tiniest bit of selfishness in everything he does. I can agree to a point that he can go a little over the top, but it is a sport first to me, and always will be. You should have fun playing sports, not take it so serious that you expect every player on the field to be robotic. Players show emotions and leave everything they have on the field while playing for themselves, their fans, their family, etc while pulling strength from everything around them. Reminds me of a few weeks ago when Phil used poor wording in a Tebow post after FL lost the SEC Championship. Stop expecting these players to be one dimensional robots on the field and you won’t get so offended by their actions.[/quote]
    Yeah, I guess we’re too concern with our own preconceived notions and opinions of people to question whether what they might do is genuine.

    I’m surprised no ever brings up when Johnny U died, the Colts were still wearing white shoes and Manning wanted to wear the black high tops in honor of him, but the league said he’d get a stiff fine and Manning said he didn’t want the distraction. Conversely, Chris Redman did wear black hightops and took the fine.

    This is Peyton “i’ve never met a product I wouldn’t pitch” Manning. But no one said anything like it was a “look at me” gesture.[/quote]
    No one ever said that? If uniwatchblog.com had been around then, I wonder if you’d be able to make that statement.

    I, for one, did have a problem with Manning at the time. It wasn’t that he wanted to wear the black high-tops, but rather because “that cheap prick” wasn’t willing to go through with it and pay the fine. Cuz it’s really easy for me to spend someone else’s money.

  • FormerDirtDart | December 21, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    “New camouflage uniform for the British army (as forwarded by Tom Mulgrew).”

    Here is a pic of the new uniforms contrasting between the current standard camo and desert patterns
    http://soldiersystem...

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”367907″]The color photos from the 30’s are amazing! I love seeing color pictures from that era, just because you normally see so few of them. I was recently browsing lileks.com (great time waster), which has a section devoted to the 1930’s, including a catalog of some very colorful kitchen designs of the day. Lileks makes the point that there was indeed color in design back in those days. The common B&W images of the era almost overstate the level of depression during the Depression. It wasn’t all gray skies, black cars and gray and black clothes. I always find it interesting to see actual visual evidence of that.

    Here’s the lileks link…
    http://www.lileks.co...

    Thanks for that link Wes

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”367957″]tODD, you’re fighting the good fight, and I happen to agree with you, but I’m afraid you’re not going to get some of the more grizzled veterans to see it that way regarding Chad.

    We went through this with Sean Taylor and on a different level, Mike Vick.[/quote]

    doggie, i love ya, but don’t compare apples to oranges

    the concerns over taylor were with the memorials (and the excessive lengths the NFL went to with them)…at least on my end, NONE of the rhetoric was directed towards taylor’s off-field activities nor his personal life…we’re talking about ocho cinco here, not chris henry

    with regard to vick, i don’t think anyone on here ever criticized him for being a “look at me” player…whatever his off-the-field transgressions were, im not sure you can bring him into this argument at all

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    [quote comment=”367957″]Yeah, I guess we’re too concern with our own preconceived notions and opinions of people to question whether what they might do is genuine.

    I’m surprised no ever brings up when Johnny U died, the Colts were still wearing white shoes and Manning wanted to wear the black high tops in honor of him, but the league said he’d get a stiff fine and Manning said he didn’t want the distraction. Conversely, Chris Redman did wear black hightops and took the fine.

    This is Peyton “i’ve never met a product I wouldn’t pitch” Manning. But no one said anything like it was a “look at me” gesture.[/quote]

    im not sure UW (the blog) was around in 2002 (in fact, i know it wasn’t) when johnny u died, so don’t put words into anyone’s mouth

    peyton may be a shill for just about anything that comes along (i’ll totally give you that), but you cannot say that he is, was, or will ever be a “look at me” player…whether you agree or disagree with his decision to honor the greatest (at the time) colts QB by wearing black high-tops, even a “one time look at me” gesture is probably a stretch (although, one i will grant you)…but nothing manning ever does is a constant, weekly display designed to get him on sportscenter…

    name the athlete associated with these (and this is only a partial list):

    *the “riverdance”

    * the proposal to a bengals cheerleader,

    * the sign that read “Dear NFL, Please don’t fine me AGAIN!!!!!!”

    * the performance of CPR on the football

    * the picking up a pylon in the end zone and using it to ‘putt’ the football into an imaginary golf hole then pumping his fist in a loose imitation of tiger woods

    * doing an Irish jig

    * doing the Chicken Dance

    * wearing “Ocho Cinco” three years ago (before being told not to — which led us the the shenanigans we have today)

    * wearing the “Future HOF 20??” jacket

    * jumping into the Dawg Pound after a touchdown

    * doing the ‘lambeau leap’

    * pushing a cameraman aside and pretending to film the players

    * threatening to wear all pink accoutrements (such as chinstrap/jockstrap) during breast cancer week

    again, this is just a partial list

    i suppose, when viewed in such a small vacuum as this, how could any of us presuppose anything about him wanting to wear 15 would be about drawing attention to himself? how silly of us

    *****

    and finally, i detect by your grouping sean taylor, mike vick and ocho and juxtaposing them with peyton, you’re trying to intimate a bit of racism from “the grizzled veterans”

    absolutely not so…and please don’t make it so

    there are a lot of things peyton manning does that im not particularly fond of (including whoring himself out to anyone selling anything, it seems), but he is ABSOLUTELY the opposite of ocho cinco in his on-field demeanor;

    perhaps we “grizzled veterans” respect those who respect the game (our opinion, of course)…to me, ocho doesn’t respect anyone or anything, including himself

  • concealed78 | December 21, 2009 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”367854″]Why are the red sleeves and red socks not matching the navy cap a problem for the Nationals road uniforms? The Red Sox for several years have worn red sleeves and red socks with their navy caps at home…[/quote]

    Don’t forget the 1990s Cleveland Indians wore red sleeves & socks too.

  • concealed78 | December 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”367870″]So not only do multi-millionaire team owners somehow convince the public to buy them a new stadium with someone else’s tax money, but they also can convince people to work at the stadium as volunteers, i.e. free labor??? Wow, I’m in the wrong business.[/quote]

    From what I saw on the Chicago 9pm WFLD-FOX newscast some of those volunteers were highly watched prisioner convicts. I don’t recall how many, tho. Maybe 100.

  • Nick | December 21, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”367833″]If the Rams ever decide to switch back to those throwbacks as a full time uniform, they ought to ignore historical accuracy and make the helmet blue match. It never bothered me much when all the blue helmets were too dark, but knowing now that they can match – it irritates me to no end.[/quote]

    I believe that the story was that back in 1973 the Rams could not get the factory to match the helmets – though I believe that is preposterous – didn’t we read something about this here before – or maybe at Helmet Hut?

    I do agree, pro teams SHOULD ALWAYS MATCH !!!

  • Nick | December 21, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”367854″]Why are the red sleeves and red socks not matching the navy cap a problem for the Nationals road uniforms? The Red Sox for several years have worn red sleeves and red socks with their navy caps at home…[/quote]

    As do the Cards sometimes – and I believe that Red Sleeves/Socks/Shoes with Navy caps look mismatched IGNORANT, but since I am not a fan of those teams, and those that are seem to like that look, I keep the opinion to myself most of the time.

  • Mickel Yantz | December 21, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    Were the Lakers jerseys supposed to be that far off in color. Dang. http://espn.go.com/l...

  • EddieAtari | December 21, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    Check out Patrick Ewing wearing an awful generic hoops uni in this somewhat funny Snickers commercial:

    http://bit.ly/5H9g0f

  • Nick | December 21, 2009 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”367862″][quote comment=”367839″]Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.[/quote]

    Ballcarrier seems to be Howard “Hopalong” Cassady.
    http://farm3.static....
    Opponent? Hmmm…could be a number of teams. Michigan State ever do mono green back then? Maybe Duke or someone? (not likely a southern team, though; one of the defenders appears to be African American). Guess place to start would be to check Buckeyes’ road schedule during Cassady’s years with them.

    Don’t know if I’ll get time here at work.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Gotta be Ohio State – look at Larry B’s photos from yeaterday.

    Perdiction. With the disapperance of Football jersey sleeves, in the very near future we will eventually see more vertical shoulder stripes as well as contrasting colored yokes that will harken to the “throwback” look, and it will not be all bad ….. Assuming the current Bills uni disaster doesn’t sour everyone on the look before it happens.

  • clueless joe jackson | December 21, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    Very off topic, but I’m sure someone can help. I’m looking for classic striped socks that go to about the calf. Preferably made with technical material so I can run in them.
    Any feedback would be great!

  • Komet17 | December 21, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”367918″]Thomas Clark said
    [quote comment=”367902″][/quote]

    He didn’t do anything dramatic, just dedicated a game to his friend. [/quote]

    OK: What exactly does it mean to “dedicate” a game to a friend?

  • concealed78 | December 21, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”367838″][quote comment=”367836″]I went to the link you provided, did a search on the word “Yankee” and got a ton of links about the yankees and the new yankee stadium, but no pictures.[/quote]

    Hmmmm, photos are working fine for me.[/quote]

    Paint me confused. I searched using both search options. The top one gives a bunch of random web links, the lower right one a bunch of threads. I don’t have a fast connection, so the pics are all in those threads?

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    Anybody else watch those Heisman Tales on College Sports TV. I watched the 1 hour show about Billy Cannon yesterday. Very interesting show with old films and old pictures. Cannon’s high school team was one of the very first football teams supposedly to use weight training in 1954.

    It had about his counterfeiting and he now works in a prison as dentist or orthodontist.

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”367973″][quote comment=”367862″][quote comment=”367839″]Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.[/quote]

    Ballcarrier seems to be Howard “Hopalong” Cassady.
    http://farm3.static....
    Opponent? Hmmm…could be a number of teams. Michigan State ever do mono green back then? Maybe Duke or someone? (not likely a southern team, though; one of the defenders appears to be African American). Guess place to start would be to check Buckeyes’ road schedule during Cassady’s years with them.

    Don’t know if I’ll get time here at work.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Gotta be Ohio State – look at Larry B’s photos from yeaterday.

    Perdiction. With the disapperance of Football jersey sleeves, in the very near future we will eventually see more vertical shoulder stripes as well as contrasting colored yokes that will harken to the “throwback” look, and it will not be all bad ….. Assuming the current Bills uni disaster doesn’t sour everyone on the look before it happens.[/quote]

    It was Ohio State at Wisconsin 1955. See my posts #112 and #118

  • EddieAtari | December 21, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”367976″][quote comment=”367838″][quote comment=”367836″]I went to the link you provided, did a search on the word “Yankee” and got a ton of links about the yankees and the new yankee stadium, but no pictures.[/quote]

    Hmmmm, photos are working fine for me.[/quote]

    Paint me confused. I searched using both search options. The top one gives a bunch of random web links, the lower right one a bunch of threads. I don’t have a fast connection, so the pics are all in those threads?[/quote]

    I seached “Yankee Stadium” and found them…

  • Nick | December 21, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”367864″]Anyone notice the screw up in last night’s Toyota commercial regarding how “shirtless guys at cold weather games” got started?

    Says it’s 1963 and Minnesota getting it first pro football.
    Wrong. Vikings’ first season was, of course, 1961.

    Four guys mistaken for the Beatles. Beatles phenomenon in U.S. largely took hold very, very late in ’63, leading to Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan in Feb. 64. Meaning during ’63 NFL season Beatles were still relatively unknown. Certainly “Beatlemania” wasn’t around yet.

    Okay, point about Beatles timing is debatable.

    But Vikings first season defintely was NOT 1963.

    Doesn’t ANYBODY check anything anymore?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No. Not on TV or in newspapers they don’t. I see it every day, and in beter known disciplines than the NFL. Consider it the all-inclusive results of the past 40 years.

  • Brandon Acree | December 21, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    I’m glad people liked the Japanese Bromides link. On a side note, It’s kind of cool to see the 1st link I ever submitted to UniWatch appear in the ticker…on my birthday, no less…

  • Nick | December 21, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”367898″][quote comment=”367891″][quote comment=”367889″][quote comment=”367860″]

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.[/quote]

    Here’s what King said:
    “c. America, you’re lucky the Rams ditched those uniforms of a decade ago — the Greatest Show on Turf unis. Hideous. Memo to Rams: Please eliminate them from all future Throwback games, or call them Throwup Games if you use them again. They should all be incinerated.[/quote]
    Don’t forget. This is the same man who predicted a Super Bowl XX rematch with the Pats getting the upper hand this time around.[/quote]

    I dunno, those unis looked pretty good on Eric Dickerson, for one. And Harold Jackson and John Williams and… (you get the point).

    Don’t really understand King’s rant mentality about them. Did he, like, not notice them back then? Were they just as awful back then but he kept his thoughts to himself? Or do additional opinions form after you get a high-profile national soapbox (y’know, as in, “I’m somebody now, I need to have an opinion on something today. Hmmm, what should it be?”).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    AGREED.

    As I much as I love Old Gold to be worn by football teams, the fact is that Athletic Gold/Dark Yellow is a generallt better color for teams to wear, particularly for football, as it contrasts well with the main team color and is easier to follow from the stands. And it generally looks good.

    I favor Old Gold, and I l0ve Old Gold, but it is often not properly used (too much dteail, or not used enough with the uni, or used in the pissy Vegas Gold shade, or mismatched, or is not easy to view or appreciate given the ussage on the uniform, along with a bunch of other issues).

    I do not get the vomitous reaction that the 1973-1999 Rams throwbacks are getting – my memory of them involve the Rams usually wearing them to kick my beloved Saints’ fannies wayyyyy too often.

  • SoCalDrew | December 21, 2009 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”367889″]Here’s what King said:
    “c. America, you’re lucky the Rams ditched those uniforms of a decade ago — the Greatest Show on Turf unis. Hideous. Memo to Rams: Please eliminate them from all future Throwback games, or call them Throwup Games if you use them again. They should all be incinerated.[/quote]

    A bit over the top there Mr. King. Much as I would prefer to see a REAL Rams throwback uni (blue/white), the blue/yellow is MILES better than their current threads.

  • Geeman | December 21, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”367956″][quote comment=”367955″][quote comment=”367953″][quote comment=”367951″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3426779640_3dcc827a9f_o.jpg

    Is this the only time the Vikes have ever worn all-purple?[/quote]

    sadly, no[/quote]

    Sadly, indeed. Man, they used to ahve great unis. Loved the old all-whites with the LSU stripes.[/quote]

    still, tho…that all purple actually looks better than this mess

    seriously…D-III teams dress better than those outfits[/quote]

    You are correct, sir.

  • FormerDirtDart | December 21, 2009 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”367976″][quote comment=”367838″][quote comment=”367836″]I went to the link you provided, did a search on the word “Yankee” and got a ton of links about the yankees and the new yankee stadium, but no pictures.[/quote]

    Hmmmm, photos are working fine for me.[/quote]

    Paint me confused. I searched using both search options. The top one gives a bunch of random web links, the lower right one a bunch of threads. I don’t have a fast connection, so the pics are all in those threads?[/quote]
    Try “Ctrl+F” (those are key strokes) it’s a word search

  • M.Princip | December 21, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”367907″]The color photos from the 30’s are amazing! I love seeing color pictures from that era, just because you normally see so few of them. I was recently browsing lileks.com (great time waster), which has a section devoted to the 1930’s, including a catalog of some very colorful kitchen designs of the day. Lileks makes the point that there was indeed color in design back in those days. The common B&W images of the era almost overstate the level of depression during the Depression. It wasn’t all gray skies, black cars and gray and black clothes. I always find it interesting to see actual visual evidence of that.

    Here’s the lileks link…
    http://www.lileks.co...

    Wow, that was incredibly fun to look at. Thanks for the link.

  • M.Princip | December 21, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”367973″][quote comment=”367862″][quote comment=”367839″]Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.[/quote]

    Ballcarrier seems to be Howard “Hopalong” Cassady.
    http://farm3.static....
    Opponent? Hmmm…could be a number of teams. Michigan State ever do mono green back then? Maybe Duke or someone? (not likely a southern team, though; one of the defenders appears to be African American). Guess place to start would be to check Buckeyes’ road schedule during Cassady’s years with them.

    Don’t know if I’ll get time here at work.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Gotta be Ohio State – look at Larry B’s photos from yeaterday.

    Perdiction. With the disapperance of Football jersey sleeves, in the very near future we will eventually see more vertical shoulder stripes as well as contrasting colored yokes that will harken to the “throwback” look, and it will not be all bad ….. Assuming the current Bills uni disaster doesn’t sour everyone on the look before it happens.[/quote]

    I’ve got to say, and I’ve told Larry B. this, that those tOSU vertical shoulder stripes, they wore back in 1954, were absolutely badass. However, especially cool combined with the sleeve stripe.

    http://lh3.ggpht.com...

  • M.Princip | December 21, 2009 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”367946″][quote comment=”367881″][quote comment=”367847″]I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T[/quote]

    i vote for the black jerseys to be the standard Ravens home shirt. they look much better than the purple[/quote]

    Just because Paul hates purple doesn’t mean that everyone else has to. I think the purple gives the Ravens a unique identity. Sure they share it with the Vikings, but black is shared with the archival Steelers as well as the Panthers, Raiders, Eagles (alts), Saints, and Falcons (did i miss anyone?).

    I really hate that pretty much every team in MLB is either red or blue or both. I love that the Orioles only share Orange with the Giants and some trim on the Mets (or is that all black now too?)

    I like that the Ravens bring out the black jerseys once or twice a year. In fact I also liked the full black uniforms. Sure they looked like full body leotards individually, but as a team when watching the game at the stadium it looks incredibly menacing.[/quote]

    I think the Ravens wear the purple well, oh and that alt. logo shield with the MD flag is superb. Now, the Vikings purple metallic is not so good, however, their throwback purple is kind to the eyes. Love the deep purple helmets with the gray facemasks.

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”367987″][quote comment=”367973″][quote comment=”367862″][quote comment=”367839″]Re: the football photo from Stephen Marcus – the team in white looks an awful lot like Ohio State. In fact, I think those are the uniforms on which the recent Pro Combat “throwbacks” were loosely based.[/quote]

    Ballcarrier seems to be Howard “Hopalong” Cassady.
    http://farm3.static....
    Opponent? Hmmm…could be a number of teams. Michigan State ever do mono green back then? Maybe Duke or someone? (not likely a southern team, though; one of the defenders appears to be African American). Guess place to start would be to check Buckeyes’ road schedule during Cassady’s years with them.

    Don’t know if I’ll get time here at work.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Gotta be Ohio State – look at Larry B’s photos from yeaterday.

    Perdiction. With the disapperance of Football jersey sleeves, in the very near future we will eventually see more vertical shoulder stripes as well as contrasting colored yokes that will harken to the “throwback” look, and it will not be all bad ….. Assuming the current Bills uni disaster doesn’t sour everyone on the look before it happens.[/quote]

    I’ve got to say, and I’ve told Larry B. this, that those tOSU vertical shoulder stripes, they wore back in 1954, were absolutely badass. However, especially cool combined with the sleeve stripe.

    http://lh3.ggpht.com...

    I agree 100%. That is one reason I was excited when I heard or thought Ohio State would wear those vs Michigan.

    I would have bought a replica of that jersey in a heartbeat.

  • JTH | December 21, 2009 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”367988″]
    I think the Ravens wear the purple well, oh and that alt. logo shield with the MD flag is superb. Now, the Vikings purple metallic is not so good, however, their throwback purple is kind to the eyes. Love the deep purple helmets with the gray facemasks.[/quote]
    I prefer the Ravens’ black jerseys (worn with white pants) to their purple ones, but I think I have to agree with all of these statements.

  • RyCo40 | December 21, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”367860″]Ok HELP! I am looking for some notecards that were mentioned on the blog back in November. They were \”Birds of The major Leagues\” and \”Cats of the Major Legues\” Does anyone know who makes them, or can you just point me back to the day they were mentioned?

    Oh – and Peter King HATED the Rams\’ Throwbacks? That man is an enigma.[/quote]

    right here:

    http://www.infojocks...

    infojocks. just ordered off of them. good people!!!

  • RyCo40 | December 21, 2009 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”367974″]Very off topic, but I’m sure someone can help. I’m looking for classic striped socks that go to about the calf. Preferably made with technical material so I can run in them.
    Any feedback would be great![/quote]

    rpm! rpm! r! p! m!!!

  • BurghFan | December 21, 2009 at 6:37 pm |

    Jim Vilk,

    You should have come to Pittsburgh yesterday; you would have had no problem finding tickets outside, and you’d have enjoyed it if you stayed to the final gun.

    This week, they’ll be wearing the throwbacks against Baltimore.

  • Oakville Endive | December 21, 2009 at 6:38 pm |

    I was doing some Christmas shopping during noon hour – I walked into the Hockey H of F store (I work in Toronto) – and I see the Boston Bruins Winter Classic sweater – which I think is a beaut. I take a closer look – and despite the dim lighting – I notice something that I hadn\’t realized before – the black part is not black – but brown – wow! Maybe I\’m the last one to know , but this is a huge year for the Brown/Gold look – first the Broncos – then the Bruins – and I guess the Padres are going to have it has an alternative next summer – and off course Wyoming wins the presigous New Mexico Bowl – to top the whole year off for Brown & Gold – which I nominate as the colour combo of the year

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 7:01 pm |

    Not sure if it was mentioned today. Joe Paterno turned 83 today.

    That is amazing that he still has the energy to still want to be coaching.

  • Marc | December 21, 2009 at 7:35 pm |

    http://www.gobuffsgo...

    Don’t know if anyone’s noticed, but I like how West Texas’ logo is a play on the va tech logo

  • Steve | December 21, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    Skins going burgundy-on-burgundy tonight. Forces the Giants into their road whites. And to think this could have been an aesthetically-pleasing game.

  • KevinW | December 21, 2009 at 8:14 pm |

    If my Padres are thinking about throwbacks at some home games, how about this:

    http://media.photobu...

    81 times a year

  • Oakville Braised Lamb Shanks | December 21, 2009 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”367998″]If my Padres are thinking about throwbacks at some home games, how about this:

    http://media.photobu...

    81 times a year[/quote]

    Yep , that’s a nice look – shows brown and gold can work.

  • Matt Porges | December 21, 2009 at 8:43 pm |

    This all-burgundy for the Redskins is too much.

  • timmy b | December 21, 2009 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”367995″]Not sure if it was mentioned today. Joe Paterno turned 83 today.

    That is amazing that he still has the energy to still want to be coaching.[/quote]

    Don’t be surprised if he’s still on the prowl 10 years from now. Yes, he’ll be 93, but with JoePa, anything is possible.

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”368001″][quote comment=”367995″]Not sure if it was mentioned today. Joe Paterno turned 83 today.

    That is amazing that he still has the energy to still want to be coaching.[/quote]

    Don’t be surprised if he’s still on the prowl 10 years from now. Yes, he’ll be 93, but with JoePa, anything is possible.[/quote]

    he as been blessed with good health. The hip replacement surgery if that was what he had helped him.

    I know Amos Alonzo Stagg was a coach until his 90’s But at smaller colleges or maybe as an assistant in his last few years.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”367993″]Jim Vilk,

    You should have come to Pittsburgh yesterday; you would have had no problem finding tickets outside, and you’d have enjoyed it if you stayed to the final gun.

    This week, they’ll be wearing the throwbacks against Baltimore.[/quote]

    Yeah, after seeing how it ended, I was REALLY regretting not being there.

    Didn’t go this year because my usual Steeler buddy wasn’t available, and I didn’t want to go by myself. That and the prices went up on the site where I usually get tickets. I didn’t even think about getting tickets outside the stadium.

    Apparently the throwbacks against the Ravens is becoming a tradition. Makes sense, since they both have black regular helmets.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 9:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”368001″][quote comment=”367995″]Not sure if it was mentioned today. Joe Paterno turned 83 today.

    That is amazing that he still has the energy to still want to be coaching.[/quote]

    Don’t be surprised if he’s still on the prowl 10 years from now. Yes, he’ll be 93, but with JoePa, anything is possible.[/quote]

    I want to see him coach until he’s 100. That’d be cool.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”367997″]Skins going burgundy-on-burgundy tonight.[/quote]

    fuck

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”367997″]Skins going burgundy-on-burgundy tonight. Forces the Giants into their road whites. And to think this could have been an aesthetically-pleasing game.[/quote]

    Uni-wise, it could have been, but unfortunately the Giants/Skins still make me think of this unaesthetically-pleasing sight: http://www.sportsmem...

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 9:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”368006″][quote comment=”367997″]Skins going burgundy-on-burgundy tonight. Forces the Giants into their road whites. And to think this could have been an aesthetically-pleasing game.[/quote]

    Uni-wise, it could have been, but unfortunately the Giants/Skins still make me think of this unaesthetically-pleasing sight: http://www.sportsmem...

    Never mind, it was a shot of LT and Joe Theismann.

  • Josh | December 21, 2009 at 10:00 pm |

    When did the ‘Skins stop wearing white at home? Didn’t that begin to F the Cowboys, who hate to wear their blue jerseys (they always wear white at home)? Have they “given up” on this uni-rivalry?

  • jdreyfuss | December 21, 2009 at 10:01 pm |

    Can someone mock up a picture of a walrus wearing a Browns jersey or helmet that can be used as a logo for Mike Holmgren running the team?

  • jdreyfuss | December 21, 2009 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”368005″][quote comment=”367997″]Skins going burgundy-on-burgundy tonight.[/quote]

    fuck[/quote]
    Don’t worry. They weren’t stylish enough to score a point in the first half.

  • =bg= | December 21, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    aagh, just turned on MNF. All burgundy. Is Shanny SURE he wants that gig? With that little runt owner?

  • Thomas Clark | December 21, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”367998″]If my Padres are thinking about throwbacks at some home games, how about this:

    http://media.photobu...

    81 times a year[/quote]

    I’ve never been a fan of the high stirrups (sorry I just think it doesn’t look clean) and I’m not a big fan of the brown and mustard look but that uniform is fantastic…stirrups included. I would be ok with that look for a full season.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    LaSalle and Oklahoma State are hoopin’ it up on ESPN360. It’s color vs. color as LaSalle has all-blue unis with striping similar to WVU’s football unis. OSU is wearing all-orange SoD unis.

  • JimV19 | December 21, 2009 at 10:33 pm |

    Hey Rob Ullman,

    You might want to draw Carrie Underwood in a Senators sweater: http://www.tsn.ca/st...

    If Mike Fisher doesn’t want it, I’m sure someone else will buy it.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”368009″]Can someone mock up a picture of a walrus wearing a Browns jersey or helmet that can be used as a logo for Mike Holmgren running the team?[/quote]

    meh

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2009 at 10:38 pm |
  • Ricko | December 21, 2009 at 10:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”368015″][quote comment=”368009″]Can someone mock up a picture of a walrus wearing a Browns jersey or helmet that can be used as a logo for Mike Holmgren running the team?[/quote]

    meh[/quote]

    He shoulda taken over the Florida Tuskers.

    —Ricko

  • Chuck | December 21, 2009 at 10:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”368000″]This all-burgundy for the Redskins is too much.[/quote]

    They look like walking tubes of lipstick!

  • Johnny O | December 21, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    Bucks were in their red alts again tonight. This time, they came away with a victory:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • LarryB | December 21, 2009 at 11:23 pm |

    Maybe someday somebody will find or post a picture of that 66 Steelers Redskins game.

    I also forgot to say Sweet Yankees 1941 color picture.

  • Mickel | December 21, 2009 at 11:38 pm |

    nice helmets http://www.oursports....
    Yeah I like the Seahawks touch too.

  • Taxman | December 21, 2009 at 11:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”367881″][quote comment=”367847″]I know there is a lot of black angst from the uniwatch nation, but does anyone else think the Ravens look so much better in their black tops with the pruple trim? As long as they stay away from the leotard black pants this is the best uni combo they have. (let the pummelings begin)
    Raven Season Ticket Holder and sufferer through the last 2 weather games at M&T[/quote]

    i vote for the black jerseys to be the standard Ravens home shirt. they look much better than the purple[/quote]
    How about…No.

  • mike 2 | December 22, 2009 at 12:04 am |

    [quote comment=”367994″]I was doing some Christmas shopping during noon hour – I walked into the Hockey H of F store (I work in Toronto) – and I see the Boston Bruins Winter Classic sweater – which I think is a beaut. I take a closer look – and despite the dim lighting – I notice something that I hadn\’t realized before – the black part is not black – but brown – wow! Maybe I\’m the last one to know , but this is a huge year for the Brown/Gold look – first the Broncos – then the Bruins – and I guess the Padres are going to have it has an alternative next summer – and off course Wyoming wins the presigous New Mexico Bowl – to top the whole year off for Brown & Gold – which I nominate as the colour combo of the year[/quote]

    I saw that jersey in our mall tonight as well – all of the dark areas on the jersey (the shoulders, sleeves, etc) are black but the wheel and spokes on the “B” crest are brown.

    http://www.icethetic...

  • Chris | December 22, 2009 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”368008″]When did the ‘Skins stop wearing white at home? Didn’t that begin to F the Cowboys, who hate to wear their blue jerseys (they always wear white at home)? Have they “given up” on this uni-rivalry?[/quote]

    You do know they were playing the Giants not the Cowboys right?

  • Shaggy | December 22, 2009 at 12:49 am |

    Stripes in Fenway!

    http://www.courant.c...

  • scott | December 22, 2009 at 6:07 am |

    [quote comment=”368025″][quote comment=”368008″]When did the ‘Skins stop wearing white at home? Didn’t that begin to F the Cowboys, who hate to wear their blue jerseys (they always wear white at home)? Have they “given up” on this uni-rivalry?[/quote]

    You do know they were playing the Giants not the Cowboys right?[/quote]

    Haven’t the Redskins been wearing white at home early in the season and maroon in the late season games? It’s too bad, as I liked their white over burgundy look at home; they just don’t look right in dark uniforms, unless they’re playing in Dallas. :)