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Uni Watch Book Club: Sputnik, Masked Men, and Midgets

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I’ve never been a pro wrestling fan. It’s too stupid, too choreographed, too dependant on a culture of idiocy. In fact, a lot of the worst excesses we now see in real sports (showboating, trash talking, moronic fan behavior, miserably generic rock music used as an all-purpose cultural signifier, etc.) clearly came from the wrestling scene.

Growing up on Long Island in the early 1970s, I didn’t really understand what pro wrestling was — I didn’t realize it was scripted and never understood why the ref always let the wrestlers get away with so many fouls. And why weren’t the results ever covered in the sports section the next day? Whatever — I soon discovered boxing, which made more sense to me, and that was pretty much the end of whatever thoughts I had about wrasslin’. As wrestling became more popular in the ’80s and ’90s, however, I kept thinking, “This is as stupid now as it was when I was a kid. But didn’t it used to be a bit more innocent and amusing?”

Yes, it was, and here’s the book that proves it. It turns out Memphis was a major wrestling hub in the 1950s, ’60s, and ’70s, back when the grappling game was more of a glorified Vaudville scene, and now my buddy Sherman Willmott (a major behind-the-scenes figure in many important Memphis ventures — I wrote an article about him a few years back) has published Sputnik, Masked Men, & Midgets: The Early Days of Memphis Wrestling. Even if you don’t care about wrestling, it’s plenty entertaining, and there’s a lot of uni-related material. Let’s take a look:

• I love how promoters used the lamest, most obvious ethnic signifiers to create wrestling personas. Drape a tartan-plaid cape on a guy and presto, he’s Scotty Williams. Buy a cheap Indian headdress from a costume shop and bingo, Chief Big Heart. Similar calculations were used to create the Samoans, Kurt Von Brauner, and many others.

• Not sure if this was unique to the Southern scene, but Memphis had a lot of hillbilly-themed wrestlers, guys like Plowboy Frazier, Farmer Jones (who brought his pig along into the ring!), and the Scufflin’ Hillbillies.

• At the other end of the spectrum were guys like Gorgeous George, who had a distinct homoerotic air that it’s hard to imagine any real or fake athlete affecting nowadays. Other wrestlers with a glittery edge included Nature Boy (remember that Bugs Bunny cartoon where he fights “the De-Natured Boy”?) and these guys, yeesh. When these two ends of the spectrum met in the ring, you had city slicker vs. country boy — a nice bit of class warfare.

• I don’t know what was going on with this dude’s skull, but he was seriously creepy.

• More and more of today’s athletes are tattooed. Hadn’t occurred to me that most of the old wrestlers were tat-free until I came across this photo — the tats look almost striking, out of place. I did like that this tattooed wrestler had a tat about wrestling, however.

• There is soooooo much to love in this photo. Like, seriously, you could spin a whole screenplay out of that image, no?

• Here’s my other favorite image in the book. Beautiful composition, great lines, great sense of motion, power, texture. Oh, and dirty pool, but whatever, it’s wrestling.

• Recognize this guy? That’s Ernie Ladd, one of the few wrestlers to cross over into the world of real sports. Here he is wearing the Chargers’ All-American City shield.

• There’s a whole section of the book devoted to midget wrestlers (lots more shown here). And what’s even better than midget wrestlers? Female midget wrestlers (additional examples here and here). There are plenty of pics of full-sized gals, too.

• There’s also a section devoted to masked wrestlersevil-eye masks, two-tone masks, zebra-striped masks, girl masks, etc. And one thing about masked wrestlers, they were serious about their masks!

There’s something endearing about how low-budget and playful all of this seemed to be. I mean, seriously, any scene that could try to pass off this guy as an athlete had a good sense of humor at the very least. I’m sure nobody got rich from it — just a small wad of cash at the end of the night for everyone — but I sense more creative energy in these photos than in the average major-level sports marketing plan. Bit of a shame we can’t recapture that, no?

Two other notes: First, the book includes lots of reproductions of this Memphis wrestling newsletter. Scott Turner and I liked the masthead logo so much that we decided to see how it would look on a T-shirt, along with some other applications. Cool, yes? Yes.

And in a late-breaking development, here’s a weird coincidence: I had just finished writing this entry when Sherman informed me that he’s co-producing a documentary based on the book, called Memphis Heat: The True Story of Memphis Wrasslin’. He just sent me the link for the trailer last night. Dig:

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If you’re not wearing Dockers Cooperalls, you’re just wearing pants: Doug Keklak reports that Fox Sports Pittsburgh broadcasters Dan Potash (best name ever), Paul Steigerwald, and Bob Errey engaged in a bit of uni-related chatter during last night’s Pens/’Canes game. Let’s listen in:

Dan Potash: The Hurricanes are not wearing their all-black uniforms tonight. We saw them in Carolina earlier this year. The reviews have been mixed, but nothing compares to the green pants the ’Canes wore when they were the Hartford Whalers back in ’82-83. Guys, it was only for one season and it I think that was one too many. [Steigerwald laughs.]

Bob Errey: Hey, those were the Cooperalls, Dan.

Potash: That’s right…

Errey: The Petes wore them. [This is a reference to the Peterborough Petes, for whom Errey played in the early 1980s.]

Potash: Who was the other NHL team that wore them that year?

Errey: The Flyers, the Flyers wore them as well. The Cooperalls.

Potash: That’s two mistakes. [Steigerwald and Errey laugh.]

Steigerwald: And a lot of junior teams were wearing them, right, Bob? Almost every junior team was wearing them.

Errey: Yeah, well we did. We wore ’em. And when you got on the ice, you couldn’t stop. They just slid and slid and slid.

“At this point,” says Kek, “Evgeni Malkin had a bona fide scoring chance that interrupted the uni talk.”

Raffle Results: The winner of the SoccerPro raffle is Christopher Martinez. Thanks to all who entered — more raffles coming soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s what the World Cup soccer ball will look like (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Hmmmm, lame-o promotional campaign on back? “Apparently the team did during warm-ups on 9/22/08 against Buffalo,” says Frank Mercogliano. “Fans in attendance were eligible for a raffle for the jerseys.” … I recently mentioned that Brooklyn Gum was a cycling sponsor. Now Jeff Barak points out that they also sponsored 1979 World Driving Champion Jody Scheckter of South Africa. … Good number-retirement story here (with thanks to Mark Snider). … There’s beach volleyball and then there’s “Beach” volleyball. That’s Long Beach State’s women’s volleyball team, which wears SNOB — school nickname on back (with thanks to Erkki Corpuz). … Everyone knows I love the combination of green and gold, but not like this (with thanks to Brent Miller). … Brenden Fougere spotted something I’d missed: Patrick Crayton of the Cowboys had a logo on his socks on Sunday. What logo is that? … Too much sock information (with thanks to John Muir). … Good catch by Nicholas Roznovsky, who notes that the three-stripe pattern on the back of Texas A&M’s hoops jersey is gray-red-gray, while the pattern on the back of the warm-ups is red-gray-red. Weird. … Cycling news from Jeff Mayer, who writes: “A few new jerseys from the European peloton are coming to light this week. Cervelo, who debuted as a new team last year in all-black, then switched to white when they realized that black felt hot in the summer heat, is back to black to start this season. Also: Last year’s Silence-Lotto team becomes Omega Pharma-Lotto this year. Omega Pharma has sponsored the team since 2005, often naming the squad after whichever product they wanted to hawk that year, including Davitamon-Lotto (a vitamin) and Perdictor-Lotto (a pregnancy test.) Apparently, they have no pressing marketing needs in 2010.” … What do you do with extra stirrups? Make a stirrup stocking for Santa! (As created by Jeff LaHaie.) … Speaking of baseball hosiery, Brad Penny is apparently joining the Cardinals — a significant move, since he routinely goes high-cuffed. Let’s hope he opts for genuine St. Looie ’rups instead of the bogus two-in-ones. … Brian Erni notes that Ahman Green taped over his earholes to keep the wind out last night. … The Raptors’ Huskies throwbacks will make their on-court debut tonight. … Here’s Lance Armstrong’s new costume. “What’s very interesting is that Nike (not a traditional pro cycling outfitter, other than the Tour de France leader jerseys) made the jerseys with ‘fast form-fitting design using various textures and patterns,'” says Dana Prey. “As a cyclist myself, I can’t say that I’ve ever seen jerseys with different textures — usually standard polyester throughout, just cut to fit comfortably and without too much excess material, like this. Judging by this higher-res pic of the new Shack jersey it’s more fitted than traditional jerseys.” … Faaaascinating observation by Ryan McDevitt, who writes: “Arsenal’s Andrey Arshavin often posts photos on his official web site. One such image has him autographing a jersey on his kitchen counter with an apparent MNOB — misspelled name on back (the second R shouldn’t be there). Here’s the proper spelling. Is there a reason for this, or is it an error that he himself appears not to have noticed?” … Nice to see that Nike is Pro Combat-izing everything (no thanks to Matt Busch). … Who’s that getting the victory ride? It’s Bobby Bowden, shaking hands with Lou Holtz after West Virginia won the 1975 Peach Bowl. Of greater interest, of course, is the double-decker SNOF. “I’m not sure if that was ever worn before, or since,” says Josh Ellison. Anyone..? … Reprinted from very late last night: Players in the 1991 MLB All-Star Game wore a huge honking sleeve patch. But the Cubs already had large patches on both sleeves, so their players wore the all-star patch across their shoulder seam. Those screen shots come from this awesome video clip of the lineup intros, which is loaded with uni goodness, including a good view of Benito Santiago’s No. 09. Highly, highly recommended (great discovery by Matt English).

 

181 comments to Uni Watch Book Club: Sputnik, Masked Men, and Midgets

  • Morte | December 8, 2009 at 8:23 am |

    The logo on Patrick Clayton’s socks is that of McDavid, makers of specialized padded compression sports gear.

    http://www.mcdavidus...

  • Hibbsy | December 8, 2009 at 8:28 am |

    Did Andy Kaufman show up in the book?

    Although wrastling is stupid, I do remember coming home from church with two donuts and watching Wrestling at the Chase (Channel 11 KPLR, St. Louie).

  • Ry Co 40 | December 8, 2009 at 8:30 am |

    “who had a distinct homoerotic air that it’s hard to imagine any real or fake athlete affecting nowadays”

    serious question: is that sarcasim?

  • Jonathan Sluss | December 8, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    from the all star game video: I had forgotten Benito Santiago wore number 09, any other players in baseball wear a similar number?

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 8:37 am |

    It, uh, Patrick Crayton with an ‘r’.

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 8:38 am |

    “Brad Penny is apparently joining the Carindals”

    It’s also the Cardinals..

  • MatZamboni | December 8, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    Here’s The Zambonis’ guitarist (Shawn Fogel) rocking the Whalers Cooperalls. They’re hot as hell, FYI.

    http://www.facebook....

  • Bryan | December 8, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    A junior solympic softball league in my area is looking for a new logo. The main colors are green, white, and black. Previous uniform designs can be found at http://www.missshen..... Anyone have any ideas?

  • TC Lofton | December 8, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    My grandfather used to see a lot of the wrestlers on the Memphis circuit when they’d come to Tupelo, MS. Apparently Gorgeous George was far and away the most popular wrestler in the circuit… funny to think of a buncha Tupelo folks rolling out in droves to see a Liberace impersonator.

  • Paul Lukas | December 8, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    [quote comment=”365693″]”who had a distinct homoerotic air that it’s hard to imagine any real or fake athlete affecting nowadays”

    serious question: is that sarcasim?[/quote]

    Serious answer: No.

  • Jim | December 8, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    If you like wrestling and illustrated children’s books, be sure to check out “I Was a Teenage Professional Wrestler” by Ted Lewin. Ted is a children’s book illustrator and this is his autobiography. He discusses growing up in Buffalo after WWII and entering the world of pro wrestling. He wrestled to pay his way through art school. I believe the book is out of print, but it is a fun read with terrific illustrations.

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    “Brad Penny is apparently joining the Cardindals”

    Try again Paul?

  • ScottyM | December 8, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    If Memphis was a hotbed of wrasslin’, wonder what that makes Charlotte? The dubious distinction of being the capital?

    The “sport” is funny, especially looking back to see all the characters.

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    I also wanted to say, I am not sure how many of you have ever listened to Steve Czaban on fox sports radio, but I have always considered him an unofficial uniwatcher, because he seems to catch many of the same uni fowlups and changes that are noted here. Anyway his show was “not renewed” by the powers that be, and I feel that those who “get it” have lost a voice..

  • Jon S. | December 8, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    The logo on Patrick Clayton’s socks ….

    looks like the Ballantine Beer logo.

  • Beardface | December 8, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    LOL @ Portugal… just LOL!

    Seriously, please tell me those are the WC kits and they’re not wearing anything on top. Might be the first time you actually see on-screen censorship of an athlete’s uniform in the US!

  • Eric | December 8, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    Nice to see the new cycling kits on the site. Always wondered how much “fun” it was to be cycling in those all-black Cervelo kits–especially in places like Qatar.

    Happy to see that, along with dumping `Roid Landis, my fave domestic cycling team will no longer be known as “Ouch p/b Maxxis” and will now be “UHC p/b Maxxis.” Haven’t seen the kit yet, but to paraphrase team leader Rory Sutherland, “The only thing weirder than having the word `OUCH’ on your kit is being surrounded 200 guys in spandex with shaved legs.”

  • FormerDirtDart | December 8, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”365708″]LOL @ Portugal… just LOL!

    Seriously, please tell me those are the WC kits and they’re not wearing anything on top. Might be the first time you actually see on-screen censorship of an athlete’s uniform in the US![/quote]

    Reading is fundamental…
    “Nike Pro Combat will be worn under the normal football kit and is integrated seamlessly into the kit as a lightweight extension of the body.”

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    My wife’s family is all from Wynne/Forrest City Arkansas.

    The greatest trip of my life was the two weeks that I spent down there two summers ago.

    One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    “Show me them puppies”.

    These three pictures basically sum up wrasslin, memphis and Cousin Daryl:

    Golf:
    http://i256.photobuc...

    Fishing…in the same water hazard at the “field club”:
    http://i256.photobuc...

    Doctor/Landscaper or both:
    http://i256.photobuc...

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=\”365711\”]My wife\’s family is all from Wynne/Forrest City Arkansas.

    The greatest trip of my life was the two weeks that I spent down there two summers ago.

    One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin\’ came on? He just couldn\’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    \”Show me them puppies\”.

    These three pictures basically sum up wrasslin, memphis and Cousin Daryl:

    Golf:
    http://i256.photobuc...

    Fishing…in the same water hazard at the \”field club\”:
    http://i256.photobuc...

    Doctor/Landscaper or both:
    http://i256.photobuc...

    fishing, fixed:
    http://i256.photobuc...

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”365711″]One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    [/quote]

    one might infer from your post that the VCR hadn’t made its way to that household

  • Ry Co 40 | December 8, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”365710″][quote comment=”365708″]LOL @ Portugal… just LOL!

    Seriously, please tell me those are the WC kits and they’re not wearing anything on top. Might be the first time you actually see on-screen censorship of an athlete’s uniform in the US![/quote]

    Reading is fundamental…
    “Nike Pro Combat will be worn under the normal football kit and is integrated seamlessly into the kit as a lightweight extension of the body.”[/quote]

    f.y.i., the irish national team will also be playing with a lightweight extension of the body under the normal football kit…

    haha. c’mon, i had to! just look at my name for pete’s sake!

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    Some random musings about the “participatory adult entertainment” which takes place in the squared circle:

    Of course, Muhammed Ali’s act was greatly influenced by Gorgeous George’s rap.

    When wresslers throw powder around it’s de rigeour, when Labron does it, it’s douchey.

    And, how about a mix of masks and christmas?

    http://www.straitjac...

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”365713″][quote comment=”365711″]One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    [/quote]

    one might infer from your post that the VCR hadn’t made its way to that household[/quote]

    I’m not sure Cousin Daryl could have spelled VCR:)

  • Mike | December 8, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    with a wrestling topic i was expecting a total yawner…well done paul. fascinating stuff.

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”365716″][quote comment=”365713″][quote comment=”365711″]One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    [/quote]

    one might infer from your post that the VCR hadn’t made its way to that household[/quote]

    I’m not sure Cousin Daryl could have spelled VCR:)[/quote]

    Wait, yew meen dat dem der reeecoder box? yeah we gots wunna dem. I uses it to keep the eatin table from fallin down.

  • Buster McDouglas | December 8, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    Check out this match from Ohene Djan (nee Accra Stadium) from 1959. The glorious Hearts of Oak are in the red tops but the team in yellow is unknown. You won’t catch many fans in cloth and bowlers these days.

    http://sirismm.si.ed...
    http://sirismm.si.ed...
    http://sirismm.si.ed...

  • Jeremy | December 8, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=\”365706\”]I also wanted to say, I am not sure how many of you have ever listened to Steve Czaban on fox sports radio, but I have always considered him an unofficial uniwatcher, because he seems to catch many of the same uni fowlups and changes that are noted here. Anyway his show was \”not renewed\” by the powers that be, and I feel that those who \”get it\” have lost a voice..[/quote]
    I listen to Czabe, Scott, and Solly (underrated comic genius) parts of most every morning. Did they announce that this morning? Are they on til the end of the year? Are they being replaced with a LA local show?

    On another note- watched the 91 all-star intros. 2 things caught my eye- Rickey and Dave Henderson were both wearing flourescent green wristbands. Ivan Calderon started an All-Star Game ?!?!?

  • Beardface | December 8, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”365710″][quote comment=”365708″]LOL @ Portugal… just LOL!

    Seriously, please tell me those are the WC kits and they’re not wearing anything on top. Might be the first time you actually see on-screen censorship of an athlete’s uniform in the US![/quote]

    Reading is fundamental…
    “Nike Pro Combat will be worn under the normal football kit and is integrated seamlessly into the kit as a lightweight extension of the body.”[/quote]
    Yeah, I just look at the pictures and don’t read the articles…

    Guess its out of habit from flipping through so many interesting magazines as a kid………

  • Nolan | December 8, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    As to the Radio Shack kit. I am fairly certain (although not positive since I have no proof) that Nike has been working in conjunction with Pearl Izumi for the last several years to create cycling jerseys and shorts. Here is a picture from last years Garmin-Slipstream kit. This jersey made its debut in the Tour de France (I believe). It’s clearly a jersey and not a skin suit.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    By comparison here is what their normal jersey looked like:

    http://www.bicycle.n...

    Note that the first linked image is a very similar cut to that of Lance’s new jersey.

    The history of it is that Pearl Izumi was the original outfitter of the USPS cycling team. After a TdF win or two, Nike became the clothing supplier. With the Nike sponsorship came a lot of innovations, including a lightweight jersey for hot days in July, skin suits with integrated gloves, etc. You can see many of these innovations continue in the Garmin-Slipstream kits that are branded as Peal Izumi.

  • Jeremy Brahm | December 8, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    Junior Hockey Cooperalls?

    Here is a video of the 1983 Winterhawks during the Memorial Cup championship.
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • interlockingtc | December 8, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    Today’s post begins and ends with: Sputnik Monroe hoisting a dainty cup of tea whist smoking a stogie.

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”365720″][quote comment=\”365706\”]I also wanted to say, I am not sure how many of you have ever listened to Steve Czaban on fox sports radio, but I have always considered him an unofficial uniwatcher, because he seems to catch many of the same uni fowlups and changes that are noted here. Anyway his show was \”not renewed\” by the powers that be, and I feel that those who \”get it\” have lost a voice..[/quote]
    I listen to Czabe, Scott, and Solly (underrated comic genius) parts of most every morning. Did they announce that this morning? Are they on til the end of the year? Are they being replaced with a LA local show?

    On another note- watched the 91 all-star intros. 2 things caught my eye- Rickey and Dave Henderson were both wearing flourescent green wristbands. Ivan Calderon started an All-Star Game ?!?!?[/quote]

    I’m in Phoenix, and here they have been replaced with some local yokel cardinals homers. In my quest for clarification, I saw Czabes blog from yesterday on Czabe.com where he announced it. They will be replaced by Stephen A. Smith. (it’s like a bad nightmare.) Apparently the show will run until 12/23, although I don’t get to hear them anymore.

  • The Jeff | December 8, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”365701″][quote comment=”365693″]”who had a distinct homoerotic air that it’s hard to imagine any real or fake athlete affecting nowadays”

    serious question: is that sarcasim?[/quote]

    Serious answer: No.[/quote]

    You obviously missed the late 90’s/early 00’s and Golddust.

    The budgets may have improved, and today’s wrestlers are definitely a bit more athletic looking – but the “sport” really hasn’t changed that much.

  • DJ | December 8, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    Good catch by Nicholas Roznovsky, who notes that the three-stripe pattern on the back of Texas A&M’s hoops jersey is gray-red-gray, while the pattern on the back of the warm-ups is red-gray-red. Weird.

    If Mr. Roznovsky called it red, he must be a Texas fan. A&M wears maroon, of course.

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”365718″][quote comment=”365716″][quote comment=”365713″][quote comment=”365711″]One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    [/quote]

    one might infer from your post that the VCR hadn’t made its way to that household[/quote]

    I’m not sure Cousin Daryl could have spelled VCR:)[/quote]

    Wait, yew meen dat dem der reeecoder box? yeah we gots wunna dem. I uses it to keep the eatin table from fallin down.[/quote]

    I love those Arkies.

    As for my wrasslin’ memories, during college when WCW was king, my buddies would watch 2 hours and 50 minutes or garbage to finally get to Goldberg.

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    “A&M wears maroon, of course.”

    :)

  • Paul Lukas | December 8, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”365727″]Good catch by Nicholas Roznovsky, who notes that the three-stripe pattern on the back of Texas A&M’s hoops jersey is gray-red-gray, while the pattern on the back of the warm-ups is red-gray-red. Weird.

    If Mr. Roznovsky called it red, he must be a Texas fan. A&M wears maroon, of course.[/quote]

    I called it red, not him.

    — Paul (who’s not a fan of Texas OR a&m)

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”365726″][quote comment=”365701″][quote comment=”365693″]”who had a distinct homoerotic air that it’s hard to imagine any real or fake athlete affecting nowadays”

    serious question: is that sarcasim?[/quote]

    Serious answer: No.[/quote]

    You obviously missed the late 90’s/early 00’s and Golddust.

    The budgets may have improved, and today’s wrestlers are definitely a bit more athletic looking – but the “sport” really hasn’t changed that much.[/quote]

    Golddust was the first person who came to mind for me too.

  • doop | December 8, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    I figured this would be the group to ask this question so any help would be appreciated…I have a X-Mas party and the theme is sports jerseys with a holiday twist. Are there are promotional jerseys that teams have worn that I could purchse?

    Thanks everyone

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”365732″]I figured this would be the group to ask this question so any help would be appreciated…I have a X-Mas party and the theme is sports jerseys with a holiday twist. Are there are promotional jerseys that teams have worn that I could purchse?

    Thanks everyone[/quote]

    DIY time!

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    ‘bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko

  • Polo | December 8, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    Come on Paul… What is wrong with A&M? It is much better than Texas!

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    2×4 would be Hacksaw Jim Duggan

  • Buster McDouglas | December 8, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”365732″]I figured this would be the group to ask this question so any help would be appreciated…I have a X-Mas party and the theme is sports jerseys with a holiday twist. Are there are promotional jerseys that teams have worn that I could purchse?

    Thanks everyone[/quote]

    Wear this and a Nike hat and you’re Tiger Woods?
    http://www.deezteez....

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe the other 2 could be Mosh and Thrasher (the Headbangers) although they are from late ’90s

  • orlandor | December 8, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    Paul,

    I hadn’t had a drink in about four years but your Irish Creme recipe pulled me off the wagon (not an alcoholic, just with two little guys, no time for drinks). Enjoyed it with milk over ice last night. Yum!

    I slept like a baby. Thanks for the recipe.

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”365738″][quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe the other 2 could be Mosh and Thrasher (the Headbangers) although they are from late ’90s[/quote]

    On second thought the Bushwackers would better fit the time frame.

  • Ry Co 40 | December 8, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”365736″][quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    2×4 would be Hacksaw Jim Duggan[/quote]

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • orlandor | December 8, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=\”365738\”][quote comment=\”365734\”]\’bought 20 years ago my son\’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe the other 2 could be Mosh and Thrasher (the Headbangers) although they are from late \’90s[/quote]

    Ricko,

    Not the Headbangers, the Bushwhackers and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.

    BTW, the Spirit Squad was very homoerotic, too.

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”365740″][quote comment=”365738″][quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe the other 2 could be Mosh and Thrasher (the Headbangers) although they are from late ’90s[/quote]

    On second thought the Bushwackers would better fit the time frame.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”365740″][quote comment=”365738″][quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I believe the other 2 could be Mosh and Thrasher (the Headbangers) although they are from late ’90s[/quote]

    On second thought the Bushwackers would better fit the time frame.[/quote]

    There ya go, Thanks. Hacksaw Jim Duggan and The Bushwackers. Couldn’t come up with those names. Son was 8 or 9 at the time. Saw the wrestlers at Target Center. Great fun just to watch how much fun he was having. I think he may still have the big foam 2×4 from that night. LOL

    —Ricko

  • floormaster squeeze | December 8, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    That “Swedish Angel” wrestler was just trying to cash in on the popularity of Bergman’s *Seventh Seal”.

  • The Ol Goaler | December 8, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    Holy Cow! Rick Ankiel hitting during his pitching days! (He wore #66 as a pitcher…) When he “switched” to outfielding, he wore #24 and (sigh) pajama-pants

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”365732″]I figured this would be the group to ask this question so any help would be appreciated…I have a X-Mas party and the theme is sports jerseys with a holiday twist. Are there are promotional jerseys that teams have worn that I could purchse?

    Thanks everyone[/quote]

    im sure there have been some minor league hockey ones…perhaps teebz can point you in the right direction

    course, there are a few teams who sport red & green…maybe one of those?

  • Jim BC | December 8, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    Not to get picky or anything, but I believe that the Whalers did not in fact wear “Cooperalls”, but instead, wore the CCM version, which didn’t really have a catchy name like the ones Cooper made. Perhaps Teebz may be of assistance with this one. I wore Cooperalls for a few years and I can tell you that they were awful. The girdle (yes, the girdle) was way too tight and the shell was crazy slippery. I was so glad to get out of them and into my brand new Tacklas and back to the socks! That was over 20 years ago and I’m still rockin’ the Tacklas (and I use the term “rockin'” loosely”.

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”365744″]That “Swedish Angel” wrestler was just trying to cash in on the popularity of Bergman’s *Seventh Seal”.[/quote]

    Anyone with any interest in film and filmmaking absolutely MUST find this and watch it. Absolutely hysterical.
    http://www.imdb.com/...

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”365745″]Holy Cow! Rick Ankiel hitting during his pitching days! (He wore #66 as a pitcher…) When he “switched” to outfielding, he wore #24 and (sigh) pajama-pants…[/quote]

    and the vector…meh

  • Jim BC | December 8, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    The IIHF has posted the hockey jerseys that will be worn in Vancouver 2010:

    http://www.iihf.com/...

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”365732″]I figured this would be the group to ask this question so any help would be appreciated…I have a X-Mas party and the theme is sports jerseys with a holiday twist. Are there are promotional jerseys that teams have worn that I could purchse?

    Thanks everyone[/quote]

    A David Noel Milwaukee Bucks Red & Green would be ideal.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”365751″]A David Noel Milwaukee Bucks[/quote]

    interesting you’d select noel

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”365752″][quote comment=”365751″]A David Noel Milwaukee Bucks[/quote]

    interesting you’d select noel[/quote]

    It’s his Leon Cowardesque sense of humor, that’s all.

  • doop | December 8, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”365746″][quote comment=”365732″]I figured this would be the group to ask this question so any help would be appreciated…I have a X-Mas party and the theme is sports jerseys with a holiday twist. Are there are promotional jerseys that teams have worn that I could purchse?

    Thanks everyone[/quote]

    im sure there have been some minor league hockey ones…perhaps teebz can point you in the right direction

    course, there are a few teams who sport red & green…maybe one of those?[/quote]

    That was my first thought as well. I have found pictures but none for sale. Does anyone know where I can purchse??

  • Paul Williams | December 8, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.

  • Scott Little | December 8, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    In light of the Cooperalls banter, a philosophical question for the hockey wing…

    In a recent book purchase I found a Flyer wearing pants made by CCM. Are those CCMalls?

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”365753″][quote comment=”365752″][quote comment=”365751″]A David Noel Milwaukee Bucks[/quote]

    interesting you’d select noel[/quote]

    It’s his Leon Cowardesque sense of humor, that’s all.[/quote]

    nolo contendere

  • Keith B | December 8, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    Reprinted from very late last night: Players in the 1991 MLB All-Star Game wore a huge honking sleeve patch. But the Cubs already had large patches on both sleeves, so their players wore the all-star patch across their shoulder seam. Those screen shots come from this awesome video clip of the lineup intros, which is loaded with uni goodness, including a good view of Benito Santiago’s No. 09. Highly, highly recommended (great discovery by Matt English).

    Man, this video is great. Too bad that many teams now have opted for the “softball” uniform look. All of the AL teams looked sharp in those white home unis–the colors of the individual teams really popped on that white.

    As for the NL, the two teams that still had the most traditional unis, the Reds and the Cards, were the only ones still sporting the pullovers. As for the road greys, they looked great too, except for minor things with the Cubs (oversized lettering) and the Padres (with the orange drop-shadows).

    Oh, how I long for the days before everything went black and batting practice unis took over…

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Wahoo McDaniel, too.

  • Jeremy Brahm | December 8, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    Chad Ochocinco breaking into other languages next year?

    http://bleacherrepor...

    Sadly, Hachi go, is the same as Ochocinco, 8,5 not 85 which would be Hachi ju go.

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”365761″]Chad Ochocinco breaking into other languages next year?

    http://bleacherrepor...

    Sadly, Hachi go, is the same as Ochocinco, 8,5 not 85 which would be Hachi ju go.[/quote]

    Another indication that, by any other name, a johnson is still a johnson.

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”365761″]Chad Ochocinco breaking into other languages next year?

    http://bleacherrepor...

    Sadly, Hachi go, is the same as Ochocinco, 8,5 not 85 which would be Hachi ju go.[/quote]

    Roger Goodell wishes that Hachi would just Go away.

  • Geeman | December 8, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”365762″][quote comment=”365761″]Chad Ochocinco breaking into other languages next year?

    http://bleacherrepor...

    Sadly, Hachi go, is the same as Ochocinco, 8,5 not 85 which would be Hachi ju go.[/quote]

    Another indication that, by any other name, a johnson is still a johnson.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    LOL.

  • Giancarlo | December 8, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    Ricko beat me to it, as usual, but anyway – Wahoo McDaniel did not just participate but excelled in both pro football and pro wrestling. He will forever be the only man to have an AFL Championship ring (with the 1960 Oilers) and be a member of the WCW Hall of Fame.

    I’m loving the idea of a substantial overlap between Ingmar Bergman fans & Memphis pro wrestling fans in the ’50s.

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”365761″]Chad Ochocinco breaking into other languages next year?

    http://bleacherrepor...

    Sadly, Hachi go, is the same as Ochocinco, 8,5 not 85 which would be Hachi ju go.[/quote]

    ju go girl

  • Teebz | December 8, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    Ok, a couple of requests, so here we go.

    Christmas hockey jerseys are quite popular in the minor-leagues. The only place you may find one is a private collector. Otherwise, they usually get auctioned off after the game for charity. The Wilkes/Barre-Scranton Penguins usually have a Christmas-themed jersey every year, so you may want to start searching them first.

    The Cooperalls were exclusive to Cooper Hockey. However, CCM made a girdle with a long pants shell that went over top. They were much better for movement because they weren’t one piece, but they ran into the same problem: slippery when wet.

  • The Jeff | December 8, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”365763″][quote comment=”365761″]Chad Ochocinco breaking into other languages next year?

    http://bleacherrepor...

    Sadly, Hachi go, is the same as Ochocinco, 8,5 not 85 which would be Hachi ju go.[/quote]

    Roger Goodell wishes that Hachi would just Go away.[/quote]

    I hope he goes through with it. The Keepers of the Record Books are going to hate him though.

    Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames. If they’d do that, then Mr Ochocinco could go back to his original name and put whatever the hell he wants on the back of his jersey, and most people wouldn’t care either way.

  • Bob Loblaw | December 8, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”365734″]’bought 20 years ago my son’s favorites were The Undertaker, the Road Warriors, the two Aussies who did that sort of marching/stomping thing and the guy who carried the 2 x 4.

    Anybody help with the names of the last two?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Norm Abrams and Bob Vila?

  • Teebz | December 8, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”365760″][quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Wahoo McDaniel, too.[/quote]

    What about Steve “Mongo” McMichael? Won a Super Bowl in 1985 with the Bears, played in two Pro Bowls, and then went to the WWF where he battled with Bam Bam Bigelow before becoming a mainstay in the WCW with the Four Horsemen.

  • Kek | December 8, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”365706″]I also wanted to say, I am not sure how many of you have ever listened to Steve Czaban on fox sports radio, but I have always considered him an unofficial uniwatcher, because he seems to catch many of the same uni fowlups and changes that are noted here. Anyway his show was “not renewed” by the powers that be, and I feel that those who “get it” have lost a voice..[/quote]
    I was shocked and saddened to hear this last night. And to lose the spot to Screamin’ A Smith makes it a tougher blow.

    I’ll forever miss “Know Your Gear”, a great segment, uni-related, toy/gadget-related and video game related.

    Poor move by FSR.

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems

  • Shaggy | December 8, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    Not sure if this was touched on. A couple month ago, the Ottawa 67s http://canada.blog.u... altered their famous barber pole design for Breast Cancer. Here are the photos! http://ottawa67s.blo...

  • Hott Rodd | December 8, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    ok I apologize if it’s been mentioned but TMQ just dropped this nugget

    http://espn.go.com/n...

    That’s LaRon Landry wearing a wristwatch on Sunday..

  • Korch | December 8, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    Paul,

    Any chance you could find out from Joe Skiba if Osi was wearing these on Sunday?

    http://www.soccer.co...

    Cannot find pics.

  • Shaun | December 8, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    Hey Paul/Phil/anyone… what is the history behind piping on uniforms? it seems like a more modern thing, but do we have any facts as to who started it and when? thanks!

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    “That’s LaRon Landry wearing a wristwatch on Sunday..”

    He’s the skins backup punter and grew up idolizing Reggie Roby.

  • Andy Bruinewoud | December 8, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    No discussion about Memphis wrestling would be complete without this old wresters’ joke:

    Q: What has 100 legs, three teeth and an IQ of 30?
    A: The ringside seats at the Mid-South Coliseum.

  • The Jeff | December 8, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”365772″][quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems[/quote]

    Why would it? The NFL didn’t even have names on the jerseys until the merger.

    What difference would it actually make if a player has “Smith” or if he has “The Hawk” or whatever. Player names on the jerseys are just a convenience. If they were truly important, the NCAA would have forced all the teams to use them by now.

    Block profanity, limit it to players who have played a certain amount of time… 3 years.. 5 years… whatever, and there ya go.

    It’s obvious the fans would go for it, look at the number of #7 “Mexico” jerseys, before the No Fun League added it to the list of banned words.

  • Macky | December 8, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    Ahman Green busted out the good ol’ Air Jordan XIII cleats last night. Unfortunately, in a hideous colorway (thank god it was spatted).
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • The Jeff | December 8, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”365779″][quote comment=”365772″][quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems[/quote]

    Why would it? The NFL didn’t even have names on the jerseys until the merger.

    What difference would it actually make if a player has “Smith” or if he has “The Hawk” or whatever. Player names on the jerseys are just a convenience. If they were truly important, the NCAA would have forced all the teams to use them by now.

    Block profanity, limit it to players who have played a certain amount of time… 3 years.. 5 years… whatever, and there ya go.

    It’s obvious the fans would go for it, look at the number of #7 “Mexico” jerseys, before the No Fun League added it to the list of banned words.[/quote]

    Plus, if the players can use names of their choice, maybe they can stop doing the stupid shit with multiple pairs of socks and cut off shorts and wear the damn uniforms properly.

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”365779″][quote comment=”365772″][quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems[/quote]

    Why would it? The NFL didn’t even have names on the jerseys until the merger.

    What difference would it actually make if a player has “Smith” or if he has “The Hawk” or whatever. Player names on the jerseys are just a convenience. If they were truly important, the NCAA would have forced all the teams to use them by now.

    Block profanity, limit it to players who have played a certain amount of time… 3 years.. 5 years… whatever, and there ya go.

    It’s obvious the fans would go for it, look at the number of #7 “Mexico” jerseys, before the No Fun League added it to the list of banned words.[/quote]

    A league that wants everyone’s socks the same height, or that fines a player for having white laces in black cleats, is going to allow nicknames?

    To a great extent, the NFL’s policy is to depersonalize all but its star players as much as possible to keep them expendable/interchangeable. Think military, and you got it.

    Let’s put our Reality Hats back on, shall we.

    —Ricko

  • Dane | December 8, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    According to this article, the two gentlemen who had their numbers retired by the Montreal Canadiens last Friday did not even know about the plan until that morning:
    http://www.montrealg...

    One item that jumps out:
    From 1937-1995, the Habs retired seven numbers.
    From 2005-2009, the Habs retired TEN numbers.
    Happy Centennial!

  • MJL | December 8, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    Hi Phil — Long-time lurker, first time post … blah, blah, blah

    The Boston Braves jacket yesterday made me wonder where you stood on the whole logos offensive to minority groups debate — or if you could point toward a previous article. Setting aside the Chief Wahoo end of the spectrum, I’m particularly curious about, for example, the Blackhawks logo. Or these Braves jackets that seem more “respectful”. Thanks. (I’ll hang up and listen for your answer)

  • The Jeff | December 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”365782″]

    A league that wants everyone’s socks the same height, or that fines a player for having white laces in black cleats, is going to allow nicknames?

    To a great extent, the NFL’s policy is to depersonalize all but its star players as much as possible to keep them expendable/interchangeable. Think military, and you got it.

    Let’s put our Reality Hats back on, shall we.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Yes Ricko, I know they’re not going to do it. That doesn’t mean we can’t discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of the idea, does it?

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”365779″][quote comment=”365772″][quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems[/quote]

    Why would it? The NFL didn’t even have names on the jerseys until the merger.

    What difference would it actually make if a player has “Smith” or if he has “The Hawk” or whatever. Player names on the jerseys are just a convenience. If they were truly important, the NCAA would have forced all the teams to use them by now.

    Block profanity, limit it to players who have played a certain amount of time… 3 years.. 5 years… whatever, and there ya go.

    It’s obvious the fans would go for it, look at the number of #7 “Mexico” jerseys, before the No Fun League added it to the list of banned words.[/quote]

    lets see

    what if tim tebow wanted, just as an example, “john 3:16” or something on the back of his jersey

    you don’t think that would cause problems?

    or say…someone wanted “allah akbar”

    that wouldn’t ruffle some feathers?

    c’mon jeff…who’s to say what’s acceptable and what’s not?

    and is “HE HATE ME” or some other rod smartesque saying really what we want on the backs of professional football jerseys?

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”365784″]Hi Phil — Long-time lurker, first time post … blah, blah, blah

    The Boston Braves jacket yesterday made me wonder where you stood on the whole logos offensive to minority groups debate — or if you could point toward a previous article. Setting aside the Chief Wahoo end of the spectrum, I’m particularly curious about, for example, the Blackhawks logo. Or these Braves jackets that seem more “respectful”. Thanks. (I’ll hang up and listen for your answer)[/quote]

    From talking with Phil earlier, he’s hugely busy at work today. So, if he doesn’t post something right away, don’t take it as you’re being ignored.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    Always wanted to see a hockey player with..

    HE HATE ME EH

  • Dane | December 8, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”365770″][quote comment=”365760″][quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Wahoo McDaniel, too.[/quote]

    What about Steve “Mongo” McMichael? Won a Super Bowl in 1985 with the Bears, played in two Pro Bowls, and then went to the WWF where he battled with Bam Bam Bigelow before becoming a mainstay in the WCW with the Four Horsemen.[/quote]

    Leon White played in Super Bowl XIV for the L.A. Rams, then became WCW World Heavyweight Champion under the character name Vader.

    The previously-mentioned Goldberg spent three seasons with the Atlanta Falcons.

    And of course, this guy was the toughest hockey player in the world:
    http://doubledeckerb...
    At least, that’s what Vince & Jesse said every Saturday morning.

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”365780″]Ahman Green busted out the good ol’ Air Jordan XIII cleats last night. Unfortunately, in a hideous colorway (thank god it was spatted).
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Unfortunately, it looks like he sharpied the sides.

  • Teebz | December 8, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”365789″][quote comment=”365770″][quote comment=”365760″][quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Wahoo McDaniel, too.[/quote]

    What about Steve “Mongo” McMichael? Won a Super Bowl in 1985 with the Bears, played in two Pro Bowls, and then went to the WWF where he battled with Bam Bam Bigelow before becoming a mainstay in the WCW with the Four Horsemen.[/quote]

    Leon White played in Super Bowl XIV for the L.A. Rams, then became WCW World Heavyweight Champion under the character name Vader.

    The previously-mentioned Goldberg spent three seasons with the Atlanta Falcons.

    And of course, this guy was the toughest hockey player in the world:
    http://doubledeckerb...
    At least, that’s what Vince & Jesse said every Saturday morning.[/quote]

    And there’s the former WWE Champion and UFC Champion that got cut by the Vikings. Brock Lesnar may never fight again, though.

  • Seth | December 8, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”365722″]As to the Radio Shack kit. I am fairly certain (although not positive since I have no proof) that Nike has been working in conjunction with Pearl Izumi for the last several years to create cycling jerseys and shorts. Here is a picture from last years Garmin-Slipstream kit. This jersey made its debut in the Tour de France (I believe). It’s clearly a jersey and not a skin suit.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    By comparison here is what their normal jersey looked like:

    http://www.bicycle.n...

    Note that the first linked image is a very similar cut to that of Lance’s new jersey.

    The history of it is that Pearl Izumi was the original outfitter of the USPS cycling team. After a TdF win or two, Nike became the clothing supplier. With the Nike sponsorship came a lot of innovations, including a lightweight jersey for hot days in July, skin suits with integrated gloves, etc. You can see many of these innovations continue in the Garmin-Slipstream kits that are branded as Peal Izumi.[/quote]
    The Nike cycling kits are made by Giordona, an Italian cycling apparel company. Pearl Izumi did make the cycling kits for USPS cycling team for the first year. Armstrong then signed with Nike and Nike took over making the kits.

    The tighter fitting jersey and shorts are the Nike Swift kits. They’re made for speed. They’re basically a two piece time trial skin suit. They were used by Discovery Channel and the U.S. Olympic team in 2008. I have a couple pair of the Nike Swift shorts. They’re very tight. You don’t think they’re going to fit the first time you put them on. Once you get them on though, they’re very nice.

  • MPowers1634 | December 8, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”365775″]Paul,

    Any chance you could find out from Joe Skiba if Osi was wearing these on Sunday?

    http://www.soccer.co...

    Cannot find pics.[/quote]

    You ask a cleat question…here is an attempted answer.

    I would daresay yes.

    http://cache4.asset-...

    Many of the Giants who wear Nikes, wear player exclusive verions of the

    LT 2.1:
    http://cache3.asset-...

    Air Zoom Flyposite:
    http://cache2.asset-...

    Speed Vapor:
    http://cache1.asset-...

    Woodshed:
    http://cache4.asset-...

  • Dane | December 8, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”365792″]
    And there’s the former WWE Champion and UFC Champion that got cut by the Vikings. Brock Lesnar may never fight again, though.[/quote]

    Oh yeah, John “Bradshaw” Layfield started at RT for the San Antonio Riders of the WLAF in 1991, then became WWE Champion in 2004. I had floor seats for his PPV match against The Undertaker.

  • Mike | December 8, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    not sure how facebook savy everyone is but i just joined the group…

    Correct Spelling, Punctuation and Apostrophe Use.

    http://www.facebook....

  • JimV19 | December 8, 2009 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”365716″][quote comment=”365713″][quote comment=”365711″]One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    [/quote]

    one might infer from your post that the VCR hadn’t made its way to that household[/quote]

    I’m not sure Cousin Daryl could have spelled VCR:)[/quote]

    What about his other brother Daryl?
    http://webspace.webr...

  • The Jeff | December 8, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”365786″][quote comment=”365779″][quote comment=”365772″][quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems[/quote]

    Why would it? The NFL didn’t even have names on the jerseys until the merger.

    What difference would it actually make if a player has “Smith” or if he has “The Hawk” or whatever. Player names on the jerseys are just a convenience. If they were truly important, the NCAA would have forced all the teams to use them by now.

    Block profanity, limit it to players who have played a certain amount of time… 3 years.. 5 years… whatever, and there ya go.

    It’s obvious the fans would go for it, look at the number of #7 “Mexico” jerseys, before the No Fun League added it to the list of banned words.[/quote]

    lets see

    what if tim tebow wanted, just as an example, “john 3:16” or something on the back of his jersey

    you don’t think that would cause problems?

    or say…someone wanted “allah akbar”

    that wouldn’t ruffle some feathers?

    c’mon jeff…who’s to say what’s acceptable and what’s not?

    and is “HE HATE ME” or some other rod smartesque saying really what we want on the backs of professional football jerseys?[/quote]

    I see your point, but I really don’t think it would ever come to that.

    It’s never going to happen anyway so I guess I’m done.

  • JimV19 | December 8, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    Paul Lukas said:

    “There is soooooo much to love in this photo.
    http://farm3.static....
    Like, seriously, you could spin a whole screenplay out of that image, no?”

    Yeah, and you could cast Mandy Patinkin as the actor. http://nymag.com/dai...

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”365798″][quote comment=”365786″][quote comment=”365779″][quote comment=”365772″][quote comment=”365768″]Personally I wouldn’t mind seeing the NFL borrow from the XFL and allow nicknames.[/quote]

    im sure that wouldn’t cause any problems[/quote]

    Why would it? The NFL didn’t even have names on the jerseys until the merger.

    What difference would it actually make if a player has “Smith” or if he has “The Hawk” or whatever. Player names on the jerseys are just a convenience. If they were truly important, the NCAA would have forced all the teams to use them by now.

    Block profanity, limit it to players who have played a certain amount of time… 3 years.. 5 years… whatever, and there ya go.

    It’s obvious the fans would go for it, look at the number of #7 “Mexico” jerseys, before the No Fun League added it to the list of banned words.[/quote]

    lets see

    what if tim tebow wanted, just as an example, “john 3:16” or something on the back of his jersey

    you don’t think that would cause problems?

    or say…someone wanted “allah akbar”

    that wouldn’t ruffle some feathers?

    c’mon jeff…who’s to say what’s acceptable and what’s not?

    and is “HE HATE ME” or some other rod smartesque saying really what we want on the backs of professional football jerseys?[/quote]

    I see your point, but I really don’t think it would ever come to that.

    It’s never going to happen anyway so I guess I’m done.[/quote]

    LOL. Sometimes at an ad agency where I once worked, on slow days we’d sit around trying to draw what a straight-backed chair would look like if our knees bent the opposite direction.

    Try it. Will drive you nuts.

    —Ricko

  • Bob Loblaw | December 8, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”365789″][quote comment=”365770″][quote comment=”365760″][quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Wahoo McDaniel, too.[/quote]

    What about Steve “Mongo” McMichael? Won a Super Bowl in 1985 with the Bears, played in two Pro Bowls, and then went to the WWF where he battled with Bam Bam Bigelow before becoming a mainstay in the WCW with the Four Horsemen.[/quote]

    Leon White played in Super Bowl XIV for the L.A. Rams, then became WCW World Heavyweight Champion under the character name Vader.

    The previously-mentioned Goldberg spent three seasons with the Atlanta Falcons.

    And of course, this guy was the toughest hockey player in the world:
    http://doubledeckerb...
    At least, that’s what Vince &am
    p; Jesse said every Saturday morning.[/quote]
    Any truth to the rumer that Randy ‘Macho Man’ Savage was a Green Bay Packer?

  • Swine the Mad | December 8, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    Most wrestlers have at least some athletic background. Football is by far the most popular.

    Lots of linemen wrestled in the offseason between the 1950s and 1970s because NFL linemen weren’t making much money. Alex Karras had a handful of matches. Leo Nomellini would tell you wrestling was tougher because of all the traveling. In the 1920s and 1930s, you also had a ton of guys doing both: Bronko Nagurski, Gus Sonnenberg, Doug Wycoff, Wayne Munn (who was once told he was losing the world title the easy way or the hard way; he opted for the easy way), Steve Owen, etc. Someone mentioned Steve McMichael earlier. McMichael is proof that not everyone can be a wrestler. His knees were shot coming in and he wasn’t motivated to improve himself. He was just there for the fun.

    Wrestlers from the 1950s through the 1980s had rougher schedules than any athletes in the world. The National Wrestling Alliance world champion had it the worst because he wasn’t just in one territory. Ric Flair – recruited by Michigan for football – was the last of these and whose personality was arguably an influence on Deion Sanders, who in turn influenced a lot of others.

  • Bob Loblaw | December 8, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    that’s rumor, I need to slow down as I type these things.

    And the question should read: a one time (if short lived) Green Bay Packer.

  • Swine the Mad | December 8, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote]Any truth to the rumer that Randy \’Macho Man\’ Savage was a Green Bay Packer?[/quote]

    No. Savage (Randy Poffo) played in the St. Louis Cardinals’ minor leagues, but never advanced below low A ball.
    http://www.baseball-...

    Verne Gagne was drafted by the Packers and Lex Luger (Larry Pfohl) reportedly was invited to a training camp. Luger played a year or two in the USFL with the Memphis Showboats.

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”365803″]that’s rumor, I need to slow down as I type these things.

    And the question should read: a one time (if short lived) Green Bay Packer.[/quote]

    I’m not sure there’s even any proof he ever actually ate Slim Jim’s.

    —Ricko

  • Andy Bruinewoud | December 8, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Bronco Nagurski is the only man in the Pro Football Hall of Fame who won the NWA Heavyweight Championship. Canadian Football Hall of Famer Angelo Mosca also wrestled in the off-season. And Ron Simmons, who has his number retired at Florida State, was the first African-American world champion.

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”365805″][quote comment=”365803″]that’s rumor, I need to slow down as I type these things.

    And the question should read: a one time (if short lived) Green Bay Packer.[/quote]

    I’m not sure there’s even any proof he ever actually ate Slim Jim’s.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    ..And Slim Jim ain’t talkin’.

  • mike 2 | December 8, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    Another wrestler: CFL hall of famer Angelo Mosca

    http://www.cfhof.ca/...

    http://cdn1.ioffer.c...

    (Really, just an excuse to post another photo of those Ticats jerseys)

  • mike 2 | December 8, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=\”365800\”]…

    LOL. Sometimes at an ad agency where I once worked, on slow days we\’d sit around trying to draw what a straight-backed chair would look like if our knees bent the opposite direction.

    Try it. Will drive you nuts.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    There\’s a bunch of similar exercises in Roger von Oech\’s \”A Whack on the Side of the Head\”. Great book about fostering creativity.

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    “Verne Gagne was drafted by the Pack…”

    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player

  • Bob | December 8, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    A local high school is talking about changing its athletic logo because they just recently realized that it looks like the Philadelphia Eagles logo.

    http://www.news-lead...

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    “King Kong” Mosca!
    Much nastier than jelly donut, “King Kong” Bundy.

  • Ricko | December 8, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    And, truly, one of all-time great-looking unis it is.
    Related to the team nickname.
    Colors appropriate to same.
    For Canada, a hint of hockey sweater styling.

    Just one worth remembering. All there is to it.
    http://www.cfhof.ca/...

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | December 8, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”365810″]”Verne Gagne was drafted by the Pack…”

    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player[/quote]

    How about Dave Gagner, former North Star?

    To me, unless they say it differently, it always will be “GAHN-yay”.

  • Giancarlo | December 8, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”365711″]
    One Monday night, their beloved Cardinals were on but a dilemma formed. What was Cousin Daryl to do when Wrasslin’ came on? He just couldn’t miss the King of Memphis, Jerry Lawler.

    What really made it rough was the fact that TCM was showing Bergman’s Cries and Whispers that same night.

  • Jim500 | December 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    It’s not football but Kevin Nash played basketball at the University of Tennessee. He played professionally in Europe before an injury ended his hoops career.

  • Jim500 | December 8, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”365805″][quote comment=”365803″]that’s rumor, I need to slow down as I type these things.

    And the question should read: a one time (if short lived) Green Bay Packer.[/quote]

    I’m not sure there’s even any proof he ever actually ate Slim Jim’s.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sure Ricko. I guess next you are going to tell us that wrestling is fake and Neil Armstrong landing on the moon was real.

  • Ry Co 40 | December 8, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”365814″][quote comment=”365810″]”Verne Gagne was drafted by the Pack…”

    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player[/quote]

    How about Dave Gagner, former North Star?

    To me, unless they say it differently, it always will be “GAHN-yay”.[/quote]

    i can see it being different if they were from louisiana… like “gahn-YAY”… like the famous new orleans pastry, “beignet”???

  • Ry Co 40 | December 8, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”365818″][quote comment=”365814″][quote comment=”365810″]”Verne Gagne was drafted by the Pack…”

    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player[/quote]

    How about Dave Gagner, former North Star?

    To me, unless they say it differently, it always will be “GAHN-yay”.[/quote]

    i can see it being different if they were from louisiana… like “gahn-YAY”… like the famous new orleans pastry, “beignet”???[/quote]

    and if our little uniwatch tummys are rumbling just yet:

    http://blogs.citypag...

  • Kaptain K | December 8, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”365801″][quote comment=”365789″][quote comment=”365770″][quote comment=”365760″][quote comment=”365756″]The Swedish Angel (Phil Olafsson) suffered from acromegaly (too much growth hormone) and his career predated “The Seventh Seal”. He appeared in “Mighty Joe Young”.
    Ernie Ladd was not the only footballer to wrestle in the off-season. Alex Karras and Baltimore Colts’ Don Joyce and Big Daddy Lipscomb were among many NFLers to enter the squared circle.[/quote]

    Wahoo McDaniel, too.[/quote]

    What about Steve “Mongo” McMichael? Won a Super Bowl in 1985 with the Bears, played in two Pro Bowls, and then went to the WWF where he battled with Bam Bam Bigelow before becoming a mainstay in the WCW with the Four Horsemen.[/quote]

    Leon White played in Super Bowl XIV for the L.A. Rams, then became WCW World Heavyweight Champion under the character name Vader.

    The previously-mentioned Goldberg spent three seasons with the Atlanta Falcons.

    And of course, this guy was the toughest hockey player in the world:
    http://doubledeckerb...
    At least, that’s what Vince &am
    p; Jesse said every Saturday morning.[/quote]
    Any truth to the rumer that Randy ‘Macho Man’ Savage was a Green Bay Packer?[/quote]

    That is probably “Dick the Bruiser” that you are thinking of:

    http://en.wikipedia....

    http://www.wrestling...

    This guy woulda worked Hulk Hogan silly!

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”365810″]”Verne Gagne was drafted by the Pack…”

    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player[/quote]

    and of course, there’s always the was chris russo pronounces it

  • Squiddie | December 8, 2009 at 2:49 pm |
  • Beardface | December 8, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”365811″]A local high school is talking about changing its athletic logo because they just recently realized that it looks like the Philadelphia Eagles logo.

    http://www.news-lead...
    “The Nixa athletics logo for grades 7-12 is nearly identical to the NFL Philadelphia Eagles logo — only the color is different.

    Zac Rantz, communication coordinator for Nixa, said that although the district has used the logo for at least 10 years, the similarities between it and the NFL team was only recently noticed.”

    You mean to tell me that they were using the logo of a team that made it to 6 NFC title games and 1 Super Bowl over that time period and nobody in the Administration turned to each other and said ‘hey, that looks familiar’

    Bullshit to the highest degree.

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”365823″][quote comment=”365811″]A local high school is talking about changing its athletic logo because they just recently realized that it looks like the Philadelphia Eagles logo.

    http://www.news-lead...
    “The Nixa athletics logo for grades 7-12 is nearly identical to the NFL Philadelphia Eagles logo — only the color is different.

    Zac Rantz, communication coordinator for Nixa, said that although the district has used the logo for at least 10 years, the similarities between it and the NFL team was only recently noticed.”

    You mean to tell me that they were using the logo of a team that made it to 6 NFC title games and 1 Super Bowl over that time period and nobody in the Administration turned to each other and said ‘hey, that looks familiar’

    Bullshit to the highest degree.[/quote]

    great response to the article in the comments (of that article):

    How about replacing the eagle logo with a cross or an Indian chief. There ya go

  • Christopher | December 8, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    Paul:

    Excellent article and thanks for a refreshing change into a “sport” we don’t discuss often (not saying that its a problem with the site, just nice to venture out).

    The WWF (WWE, whatever) recently put out an excellent documentary of their greatest matches.

    I was into wrestling like all kids when I was 10-15 or so. We all knew it was fake, but we loved the drama and showmanship.

    As much as my friends now rag me for it, Hulk vs. Andre in front of 90,000+ in Wrestlemania III was one of my “sports” highlights as a kid.

    I find nothing of value with today’s wrestling, and hate it quite a bit because its everything I dislike about entertainment in general.

    Still, back in the 1950s through (I would argue) the 1980s, wrestling was an important cultural phenomenon.

  • Eric | December 8, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”365810″]”
    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player[/quote]

    After the Twins won the series, Vern gave Greg (baseball Greg, not wrestler Greg) a bunch of good-natured ribbing about the “correct” pronunciation of his name.

    Now, 20 years later, Vern’s in an Alzheimers /dementia nursing home, Greg (son) was hawking cars, and trying to keep Vern and his sister out of hot water. Crazy how things change.

  • Scott P. | December 8, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    Dang those Huskies uniforms are very nice – clean and fresh. They are about as far above those basketball dribbling T-Rex’s they had at their inception as we are above amoebas.

  • Broadway Connie | December 8, 2009 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”365776″]Hey Paul/Phil/anyone… what is the history behind piping on uniforms? it seems like a more modern thing, but do we have any facts as to who started it and when? thanks![/quote]
    ***

    Damn good question, about which this reader is pig ignorant. Disgracefully enough. Ricko? Phil? Anybody?

  • JimV19 | December 8, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    Surprised no one’s mentioned Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, formerly of “The U” and the Calgary Stampeders.
    http://z.about.com/d...
    From the Sun Sentinel: Johnson “came to South Florida in 1990 to play football for the University of Miami Hurricanes, where he was a “walkon” non-scholarship player, playing defensive tackle behind Warren Sapp, an eventual first-round draft choice and all-pro. After college, he played football for two months with the Calgary Stampeders of the CFL (Canadian Football League), then was released.”

    He’s about the only modern wrestler I know. I knew some of the 80s guys, but that’s because I had to work Wrestlemania at the Richfield Coliseum. Wasn’t too pleased at having to leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go to that.

  • JimV19 | December 8, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”365796″]not sure how facebook savy everyone is but i just joined the group…

    Correct Spelling, Punctuation and Apostrophe Use.

    http://www.facebook....

    Hope it helps. ;)

  • DarkAudit | December 8, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    Per the WVU Sports Information office, the double-decker SNOF uni worn in the 1975 Peach Bowl was a one-shot for that game only.

  • Seth | December 8, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”365704″]”Brad Penny is apparently joining the Cardindals”

    Try again Paul?[/quote]
    It’s basically a done deal. Neither side will comment because the contract hasn’t been signed yet. Go look at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch website. It’s been in the news since yesterday.

  • Beardface | December 8, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”365829″][quote comment=”365776″]Hey Paul/Phil/anyone… what is the history behind piping on uniforms? it seems like a more modern thing, but do we have any facts as to who started it and when? thanks![/quote]
    ***

    Damn good question, about which this reader is pig ignorant. Disgracefully enough. Ricko? Phil? Anybody?[/quote]
    Earliest uses of piping in football that I can remember is at Miami’s (Da U) green uniforms in 1998 that used orange piping between the shoulder and chest fabric. They also had (as you can see here) their collar split in two on their white jersey. The left side was green and the right side was orange.

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”365829″][quote comment=”365776″]Hey Paul/Phil/anyone… what is the history behind piping on uniforms? it seems like a more modern thing, but do we have any facts as to who started it and when? thanks![/quote]
    ***

    Damn good question, about which this reader is pig ignorant. Disgracefully enough. Ricko? Phil? Anybody?[/quote]

    im too busy to do any research, but by “piping” do you mean the seemingly recent trend of putting superfluous thin ‘stripes’ (for lack of a better) word everywhere, or just any thin striping (such as the 1903 highlanders)?

    cuz that has been around for…like ever

  • mike 2 | December 8, 2009 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”365810″]”Verne Gagne was drafted by the Pack…”

    Always curious about the many different pronunciations of this 5 letter name:
    Greg Gagne: Verne’s son
    Greg Gagne: Minnesota Twin
    Eric Gagne: Relief Pitcher
    Simon Gagne: Hockey player[/quote]

    FWIW, Eric and Simon spell it with the accent aigu on the final e (as in Gagné) as opposed to Gagne.

    (I know I drove Phil to distraction on the weekend with the Grey Cup post in which I insisted on spelling it “Montréal”)

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”365836″]
    (I know I drove Phil to distraction on the weekend with the Grey Cup post in which I insisted on spelling it “Montréal”)[/quote]

    touché monsieur

    i told you i don’t speak canadian

  • rpm | December 8, 2009 at 4:59 pm |

    i have been a lil busy today, have not even read the entry yet, let alone the comments, but under the advisement of council…

    as much as it pains me, i have to agree with powers, dressing in a pristine way is more metro. this borders on homo erotic. but it would be better if he was lathered up in the shower with riggo talking about how they needed to “power it home” in the big game against the giants, the sound of the water hitting the shower floor as they wash their rippled chests, maybe riggo has a steeler players tooth from the game that day tangled in his mohawk, and he asks theismann to “give him a hand working it out”. that is homo erotic.

    now if you got the nudge, it does not mean you are gay, not that it helps, it just means the scene is homo erotic.

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    “Wasn’t too pleased at having to leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go to that.”

    Call me what you like, just don’t call me late to dinner.

  • Jonathan | December 8, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    (He’s about the only modern wrestler I know. I knew some of the 80s guys, but that’s because I had to work Wrestlemania at the Richfield Coliseum. Wasn’t too pleased at having to leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go to that.)

    I know i am calling myself out here by knowing this… but that must have been Survivor Series and not Wrestlemania, if it was on Thanksgiving.

  • dudebrotherman | December 8, 2009 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”365828″]Dang those Huskies uniforms are very nice – clean and fresh. They are about as far above those basketball dribbling T-Rex’s they had at their inception as we are above amoebas.[/quote]

    Totally agree! Maybe just tweak em a little. Has a clean Toronto Maple Leafs feel to em right?

  • rpm | December 8, 2009 at 5:54 pm |

    holy shit balls. i was doing some research for a bobble when i came across a pixture of sonny jurgenson in a schlitz toque! here

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”365842″]holy shit balls. i was doing some research for a bobble when i came across a pixture of sonny jurgenson in a schlitz toque! here[/quote]

    you do research for bobbles on “prostatecheckup.com”?

  • LarryB | December 8, 2009 at 6:11 pm |

    I followed wrestling as a kid and later in the Hulk Hogan Rowdy Piper era. As a kid Chilly Billy on WIIC Pittsburgh hosted studio wrestling. I think that was where I saw guys like Haystack Calhoun make some appearances. A guy named Crushker kowalski or something like that had 50 megaton bombs as muscles. Some if the memories are vague.

  • rpm | December 8, 2009 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”365843″][quote comment=”365842″]holy shit balls. i was doing some research for a bobble when i came across a pixture of sonny jurgenson in a schlitz toque! here[/quote]

    you do research for bobbles on “prostatecheckup.com”?[/quote]

    is that where the photto is from? i was just doing a google image search

  • LarryB | December 8, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    Crusher Lisouski. I guess that was the name of one wrestler I was thinking of

  • LarryB | December 8, 2009 at 6:21 pm |

    http://www.chillerth...

    Channel 11 Pittsburgh Studio wrestling

  • Jeff P | December 8, 2009 at 6:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”365835″][quote comment=”365829″][quote comment=”365776″]Hey Paul/Phil/anyone… what is the history behind piping on uniforms? it seems like a more modern thing, but do we have any facts as to who started it and when? thanks![/quote]
    ***

    Damn good question, about which this reader is pig ignorant. Disgracefully enough. Ricko? Phil? Anybody?[/quote]

    im too busy to do any research, but by “piping” do you mean the seemingly recent trend of putting superfluous thin ‘stripes’ (for lack of a better) word everywhere, or just any thin striping (such as the 1903 highlanders)?

    cuz that has been around for…like ever[/quote]

    Yes. Both of those are textbook examples of piping, which is just a thin roll of fabric added at a seam.

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”365842″]holy shit balls. i was doing some research for a bobble when i came across a pixture of sonny jurgenson in a schlitz toque! here[/quote]

    A wild-ass educated guess: When George Allen was coach, the so-called “over-the-hill-gang” all sported “goofy” hats when not wearing helmets. Jack Pardee, Ron McDole, Brig Owens and some others were the trendsetters, with welders hats being especially popular. I remember they wore them after practice at Redskins Park while quaffing some ales, but I can’t recall if they wore them on the sideline during games, although the picture of #9 seems to indicate they did. I don’t believe NFL merchandise was available yet, and I don’t think hats of any type were being manufactured with team logos, although mesh maybe. Presumably, there were less (if any) rules about sideline dress in place. Anyway, I think these could be the circumstances which led to the picture.

  • mmwatkin | December 8, 2009 at 6:53 pm |

    In typical Mets fashion, rumor swirled that they had acquired Edwin Jackson from the Tigers…only to have him traded to the Diamondbacks in a three way deal involving the Yankees.

    Also…good news! Peter Gammons is leaving ESPN!

    Bad news…he is going to MLB Network

  • Darrell | December 8, 2009 at 7:55 pm |

    Not sure if this has been posted or not, but looks like Indiana is getting new football uniforms next year. Here is a link to the prototype.

    http://hphotos-snc3....

  • Will S | December 8, 2009 at 8:00 pm |

    It almost looks like Georgetown has a nameplate on the front when their jerseys are zoomed in on

  • Will S | December 8, 2009 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”365850″]
    Also…good news! Peter Gammons is leaving ESPN!

    [/quote]

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!

  • Hibbsy | December 8, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    I think Ken Patera played with the Seahawks. Maybe it was the Patriots.

    Still wondering if Andy Kaufman appeared in that book. His scrapes with Lawler were monumental.

  • Tony | December 8, 2009 at 8:21 pm |

    Speaking of homoerotic wrestlers, let’s not forget “The Gender Bender”

    http://pe.elmstreet-...

  • rpm | December 8, 2009 at 8:21 pm |

    hey green goblin…here

  • Hibbsy | December 8, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”365854″]I think Ken Patera played with the Seahawks. Maybe it was the Patriots.

    Still wondering if Andy Kaufman appeared in that book. His scrapes with Lawler were monumental.[/quote]
    Wait a minute. I think his brother played or coached for the Seahawks.

  • Hibbsy | December 8, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    My favorite wrestler is The Green Bastard.

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 8:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”365858″][quote comment=”365854″]I think Ken Patera played with the Seahawks. Maybe it was the Patriots.

    Still wondering if Andy Kaufman appeared in that book. His scrapes with Lawler were monumental.[/quote]
    Wait a minute. I think his brother played or coached for the Seahawks.[/quote]
    That would be Jack Patera.

  • JimV19 | December 8, 2009 at 8:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”365840″](He’s about the only modern wrestler I know. I knew some of the 80s guys, but that’s because I had to work Wrestlemania at the Richfield Coliseum. Wasn’t too pleased at having to leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go to that.)

    I know i am calling myself out here by knowing this…

    but that must have been Survivor Series and not Wrestlemania, if it was on Thanksgiving.[/quote]

    You are correct, sir. As soon as I saw your post I remembered.

  • JimV19 | December 8, 2009 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”365777″]”That’s LaRon Landry wearing a wristwatch on Sunday..”

    He’s the skins backup punter and grew up idolizing Reggie Roby.[/quote]

    He wasn’t the only one: Growing up (when I was more flexible) I used to try and punt like Reggie, plant foot on the ground and kicking foot over my head.
    http://livedoor.blog...
    http://www.bucpower....

    Here he is with his wristwatch, I believe:
    http://www.skyebox.c...

    On the back of one of his trading cards, they said he used to practice as a kid punting over his house. That will lead to either good hang time, or a new set of windows.

    Rest in peace, Reggie.

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”365851″]Not sure if this has been posted or not, but looks like Indiana is getting new football uniforms next year. Here is a link to the prototype.

    http://hphotos-snc3....

    the fuck happened to his left hand?

    and is that a cape he’s wearin?

    seriously…wtf

  • leon | December 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”365863″][quote comment=”365851″]Not sure if this has been posted or not, but looks like Indiana is getting new football uniforms next year. Here is a link to the prototype.

    http://hphotos-snc3....

    the fuck happened to his left hand?

    and is that a cape he’s wearin?

    seriously…wtf[/quote]
    Picture was taken following a hand off.

  • JTH | December 8, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”365731″][quote comment=”365726″][quote comment=”365701″][quote comment=”365693″]”who had a distinct homoerotic air that it’s hard to imagine any real or fake athlete affecting nowadays”

    serious question: is that sarcasim?[/quote]

    Serious answer: No.[/quote]

    You obviously missed the late 90’s/early 00’s and Golddust.

    The budgets may have improved, and today’s wrestlers are definitely a bit more athletic looking – but the “sport” really hasn’t changed that much.[/quote]

    Golddust was the first person who came to mind for me too.[/quote]
    Late 90s/early 00s? Turn on ECW right now and you might see Dustin Runnels in the ring using the Goldust gimmick.

  • Bob Loblaw | December 8, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”365844″]I followed wrestling as a kid and later in the Hulk Hogan Rowdy Piper era. As a kid Chilly Billy on WIIC Pittsburgh hosted studio wrestling. I think that was where I saw guys like Haystack Calhoun make some appearances. A guy named Crushker kowalski or something like that had 50 megaton bombs as muscles. Some if the memories are vague.[/quote]
    i remember watching wrestling in the mid 70s. Locally, here in NY/NJ it was aired after Saturday Night Live (after 1 am. While I was not allowed up that late, if our family was out visiting their friends or something to that effect I would get an opportunity to watch it.

    Names that stand out are: Special Delivery Jones, Jimmy ‘Superfly’ Snuka, the Samoans, Chief Jay Strongbow, Big John Studd & millions of others that have evaporated amid the Vince McMahon Testostore fueled onslaught.

    By the time McMahon started his Wrestlemania extravaganzas (1982???) — i had seriously moved on.

  • JTH | December 8, 2009 at 11:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”365851″]Not sure if this has been posted or not, but looks like Indiana is getting new football uniforms next year. Here is a link to the prototype.

    http://hphotos-snc3....
    Fucking Adidas. Can’t leave well enough alone. The one thing the football program has going for it is solid, if unspectacular, uniforms and they have to go fucking with that. Now there’s side panels and shit? I’m sure the pants stripes are going to be truncated (to match the shoulder “loops”) as well.

    Speaking of the Hoosiers, anyone watching IU vs. Pitt now? A couple of the kids on the team have some terrible-looking compression shirts with lots of piping on under their jerseys.

    You can see it in some of the pics in the first photo gallery on this page.

  • LI Phil | December 8, 2009 at 11:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”365868″][quote comment=”365851″]Not sure if this has been posted or not, but looks like Indiana is getting new football uniforms next year. Here is a link to the prototype.

    http://hphotos-snc3....
    Fucking Adidas. Can’t leave well enough alone. The one thing the football program has going for it is solid, if unspectacular, uniforms and they have to go fucking with that. Now there’s side panels and shit? I’m sure the pants stripes are going to be truncated (to match the shoulder “loops”) as well.

    Speaking of the Hoosiers, anyone watching IU vs. Pitt now? A couple of the kids on the team have some terrible-looking compression shirts with lots of piping on under their jerseys.

    You can see it in some of the pics in the first photo gallery on this page.[/quote]

    heh…

    i was WAITING to hear you rip them

    say what you will aboot their hoops unis, but this is, and will always, be the SHIT

    /vilk would wear those

  • JTH | December 8, 2009 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”365869″]say what you will aboot their hoops unis, but this is, and will always, be the SHIT

    /vilk would wear those[/quote]
    You think?

  • Kek | December 8, 2009 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”365869″][quote comment=”365868″][quote comment=”365851″]Not sure if this has been posted or not, but looks like Indiana is getting new football uniforms next year. Here is a link to the prototype.

    http://hphotos-snc3....
    Fucking Adidas. Can’t leave well enough alone. The one thing the football program has going for it is solid, if unspectacular, uniforms and they have to go fucking with that. Now there’s side panels and shit? I’m sure the pants stripes are going to be truncated (to match the shoulder “loops”) as well.

    Speaking of the Hoosiers, anyone watching IU vs. Pitt now? A couple of the kids on the team have some terrible-looking compression shirts with lots of piping on under their jerseys.

    You can see it in some of the pics in the first photo gallery on this page.[/quote]

    heh…

    i was WAITING to hear you rip them

    say what you will aboot their hoops unis, but this is, and will always, be the SHIT

    /vilk would wear those[/quote]
    had an argument with someone online prior to the start of the IU/Pitt game that referred to them as “clown pants”.

    I’m as big a Pitt as they get, but when you’re a school that starts (and steals) traditions by the week, it’s funny that someone would frown on something so iconic as those striped warmups.

  • mike 2 | December 8, 2009 at 11:49 pm |

    Sorry about that – spent all night on a phpbb site, forgot where I was.

    Huskies uniforms in action:

    http://i63.photobuck...

    http://i63.photobuck...

    (lots more photos at NBA.com)

  • mike 2 | December 8, 2009 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”365869″]
    say what you will aboot their hoops unis, but this is, and will always, be the SHIT

    /vilk would wear those[/quote]

    aboot? You said on this very page that you didn’t speak Canadian.

  • Shaun | December 8, 2009 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”365835″][quote comment=”365829″][quote comment=”365776″]Hey Paul/Phil/anyone… what is the history behind piping on uniforms? it seems like a more modern thing, but do we have any facts as to who started it and when? thanks![/quote]
    ***

    Damn good question, about which this reader is pig ignorant. Disgracefully enough. Ricko? Phil? Anybody?[/quote]

    im too busy to do any research, but by “piping” do you mean the seemingly recent trend of putting superfluous thin ‘stripes’ (for lack of a better) word everywhere, or just any thin striping (such as the 1903 highlanders)?

    cuz that has been around for…like ever[/quote]

    i was referring to the former, like buffalo’s unis.

    if anyone was curious, the retail price for those official world cup balls is $150. got em in at my store along with a replica that goes for $25. pulled out the real one to kick around, and to me it feels just like any other ball

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2009 at 12:17 am |

    [quote comment=”365873″]Sorry about that – spent all night on a phpbb site, forgot where I was.

    Huskies uniforms in action:

    http://i63.photobuck...

    http://i63.photobuck...

    (lots more photos at NBA.com)[/quote]

    those are awesome…it’s how they got everything exact, right down to the original shoe color

    demar still doesn’t look happy, but bosh can make any uni look good tho

    he’ll be taking nate robinson’s #4 next year

  • JTH | December 9, 2009 at 12:21 am |

    [quote comment=”365871″]had an argument with someone online prior to the start of the IU/Pitt game that referred to them as “clown pants”.

    I’m as big a Pitt as they get, but when you’re a school that starts (and steals) traditions by the week, it’s funny that someone would frown on something so iconic as those striped warmups.[/quote]
    I seem to recall reading a similar observation somewhere. (Near the bottom, just above the College Hoops: Last Call section.)

  • JTH | December 9, 2009 at 12:26 am |

    [quote comment=”365876″][quote comment=”365873″]Sorry about that – spent all night on a phpbb site, forgot where I was.

    Huskies uniforms in action:

    http://i63.photobuck...

    http://i63.photobuck...

    (lots more photos at NBA.com)[/quote]

    those are awesome…it’s how they got everything exact, right down to the original shoe color

    demar still doesn’t look happy, but bosh can make any uni look good tho

    he’ll be taking nate robinson’s #4 next year[/quote]
    Gonna be a few Knickerbockers giving up uni numbers next year, eh?

  • Mike Engle | December 9, 2009 at 12:58 am |

    [quote comment=”365876″][quote comment=”365873″]Sorry about that – spent all night on a phpbb site, forgot where I was.

    Huskies uniforms in action:

    http://i63.photobuck...

    http://i63.photobuck...

    (lots more photos at NBA.com)[/quote]

    those are awesome…it’s how they got everything exact, right down to the original shoe color

    demar still doesn’t look happy, but bosh can make any uni look good tho

    he’ll be taking nate robinson’s #4 next year[/quote]
    Never mind it’s up for grabs. Little Nate is wearing #2 now.