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Auction Action

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Jared Wheeler recently told me about some good stuff up for bid over at Hunt Auctions. I took a look and saw a lot of items I liked, so let’s take a look-see (in each case, I strongly recommend clicking on the photo for a larger view):

• How adorable is this Cubs shoe polish mascot?

• Wish they had more than one photo of this All American football blanket. Looks gorgeous, but I’d like to see more of it for context, scale, etc.

• Oh man, look at this great 1898 Penn/Harvard program cover — sensational.

• Love the diamond logo on this 1920s baseball jersey.

• I’ve never seen a chest insignia like the one on this amazing 1940s Babe Ruth League jersey.

• Gorgeous Chevrolet baseball uni here.

• I reeeaaaalllly like the red-topped helmet in this football uni lot.

• Joe Skiba, if you’re reading this, you’ll totally shit when you see this 1961 Giants program cover. Is that hot or what?

• If you compare that Jints program to this Jets program, you really capture the difference in tone between the NFL and AFL in the 1960s.

• Speaking of the Jets, did you know they played a preseason game against the Pats called “the Elks Charity Classic”? It’s true!

• Man, I can’t get enough of those Otis Shepard program covers.

• But if you think that All-Star Game program was the shit, check out this one — hot-cha-cha!

• Quick, who was Jeanne-Pierre Coopman? If you’re a serious boxing fan, you might remember him as a charter member of Muhammad Ali’s Bum of the Month Club during his second title reign. Here’s a pennant from his one night of relative fame.

• Everyone knows about the Army/Navy football game, but they also have a baseball rivalry. Or at least they did in 1902.

• This auction features several really nice Yankees World Series press pins. I particularly like the ones from 1949, 1951, 1952, 1960, and 1961.

• Even better: phantom World Series press pins, meaning the teams commissioned the pins late in the regular season but then didn’t make it to the Series, so the pins were manufactured but never used. Some of these are really gorgeous, including the ones for the 1951 Dodgers, the 1955 Chisox, the 1956 Braves, the 1959 Braves, the 1964 Reds, the 1965 Giants, the 1966 Pirates, and the 1971 Giants.

Want to see more? You can access the full auction listings here

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Membership Update: I believe we’re now completely caught up on membership designs (including Jonathan Mayer’s awesome Duquesne Dukes treatment, shown at right — now that’s an inspired request!). As always, you can see the full gallery here and sign up here.

If you haven’t yet received your card, it should be mailing out within the next day or two, OK? OK!

Uni Watch News Ticker: New uniforms for the Beijing Aoshen (Olympians) (with thanks to Jing Xu). … Tiny photo, but take a look at this. That’s Bullets and Blazers in a 1996 preseason game. The weird thing is that one of the Bullets has a white uni number. “They’d never used white numbers before, and never did again,” says Matt Beahan. … Kudos to Jerel Patch, who caught something the rest of us missed: The Avs have tweaked the “7” in their uni number font. … Dayton wore blue uniforms against Towson on Saturday. First time they’ve ever worn blue, says J. Cristiano. … Josh McDaniel notes that West Georgia’s football uniforms are more or less identical to Louisiana Tech’s. … Possibly the single most awesome uni-related item ever featured on this site: Jeff Ash lives next door to Packers seamstress Marge Switzer. There’s a fence between their respective properties, and Jeff reports that Marge recently tied a garland to the fence with Packers jersey trimmings. Only in Green Bay. … Awesome Detroit Lions patch available here (great find by Jared Camden). … The 1953 Yankees wore the “modern” NY insignia, same as they wear today — that version of the logo had been introduced in the 1940s. But they got new uniforms for the ’53 World Series, and those jerseys had the older, 1930s-ish NY. Those jerseys were apparently used only for the ’53 Series, because they were back to the updated NY in 1954 (all this courtesy of Ferdinand Cesarano). … Did you know the Saints’ colors were originally supposed to be blue, white, and gold? It’s true (with thanks to Bruce Richards). … Tremendous video about the Nordiques’ first season here. If you skip ahead to the 13-minute mark, you’ll see their original uni/logo designer discussing the team’s visual identity, but the whole vid is full of good stuff. … How could the Monday Night Football crew possibly get the Saints’ helmet logo wrong? (Screen shot courtesy of Alain Nana-Sinkam.) … Dan Winter spotted this guy at Disneyland. “NNOB,” he says.

 

164 comments to Auction Action

  • Frank | December 1, 2009 at 8:03 am |

    That 1955 All-Star Game program has ‘Nationals’ on the Senators pennant – fascinating!

  • ryan | December 1, 2009 at 8:25 am |

    MNF has been screwing up helmets all year – I believe they had the Broncos’ helmet wrong, the Saints one was wrong in the previous game they had on MNF, and one other, though I forgot to grab a screen-shot or right down the team.

  • WFY | December 1, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    Senators and Nationals were used interchangeably for many years. It was not until Charlie Brotman assumed some PR duties for the original franchise around 1956 that it got cleared up. From 2005 my feature on Brotman:

    One of the first tasks that Brotman took on was putting together the annual press guide. When it came time to do it, he was uncertain what the team nickname actually was and asking around did not clear things up. For years, the team had been known alternately as the Nationals and Senators—and informally, the Nats—but there was no consensus on which one was correct. Brotman decided on “Senators” and asked graphic artist Zang Auerbach, who also designed the logo (still in use today) for his brother Red’s Boston Celtics basketball team, to “animate the name.” Auerbach was asked what he could do with Senators, and his response was, “Not much.” In the end, Auerbach’s design was somewhat similar to the famous Celtics logo, only this time featuring a revolutionary senator, with a cigar in his mouth, winding up from the mound.

  • TC Mark | December 1, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    [quote comment=”364324″]That 1955 All-Star Game program has ‘Nationals’ on the Senators pennant – fascinating![/quote]

    I believe the official name of the team was always “Washington Nationals Baseball Club” and Senators was an unofficial name – even though they used it on the uniforms at times and to my knolwedge didn’t use Nationals on the uniforms. Odd. Strange then that they would have pennants with Nationals and uniforms with Senators. Odder. But then again the Griffith family was just a bit unconventional…a tradition they continued when they moved to Minnesota.

    Nice however that the old Senators-style home pinstripes will reappear as the new Twins retro alt.

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    http://farm3.static....

    Bullet in question is none other than Chris Webber:

    http://misterirrelev...

    http://www.nba.com/m...

    2 and 4… whats up with that?

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    Towson, being a Ball-mer area school has jumped aboard the Under Armour train, with kicks as well.

    http://www.daytonfly...

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”364328″]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/4146775949_5401782a99_o.png

    Bullet in question is none other than Chris Webber:

    http://misterirrelev...

    http://www.nba.com/m...

    2 and 4… whats up with that?[/quote]
    Scott Skiles wore #4 first year Webber was on Bullets.

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment=”364327″]
    I believe the official name of the team was always “Washington Nationals Baseball Club” and Senators was an unofficial name – even though they used it on the uniforms at times and to my knolwedge didn’t use Nationals on the uniforms.
    [/quote]

    i believe the only time the washington ball club used “nationals” on the unis was 1905-06

    there was, of course, one snafu for one game in ’05 when long tom hughes and jake stahl showed up wearing this uniform for one game

    i think ricko blogged about it

  • dwight | December 1, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    Question for the group: While watching the MIZZOU vs. Kansas game Saturday, the logo at mid-field was the “regular” helmets each team wears – however, neither team wore that helmet during the game (MU had the riflery, and KU wen w/ the Jayhawk). Same w/ the Texas vs. A&M game – has this ever happened before that NEITHER team wore the helmet displayed on the field?

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    FWIW
    The Senators were referred to as “Nats” habitually, especially in print, where the name was easier to fit into headlines.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 1, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”364330″][quote comment=”364328″]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/4146775949_5401782a99_o.png

    Bullet in question is none other than Chris Webber:

    http://misterirrelev...

    http://www.nba.com/m...

    2 and 4… whats up with that?[/quote]
    Scott Skiles wore #4 first year Webber was on Bullets.[/quote]

    http://www.americanm...

  • DJ | December 1, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    Quick, who was Jeanne-Pierre Coopman? If you’re a serious boxing fan, you might remember him as a charter member of Muhammad Ali’s Bum of the Month Club during his second title reign

    The pennant, and thus the post, are misspelled. “Jeanne” is the feminine form of the name. In fact, his name is Jean-Pierre Coopman.

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”364335″]Quick, who was Jeanne-Pierre Coopman? If you’re a serious boxing fan, you might remember him as a charter member of Muhammad Ali’s Bum of the Month Club during his second title reign

    The pennant, and thus the post, are misspelled. “Jeanne” is the feminine form of the name. In fact, his name is Jean-Pierre Coopman.[/quote]

    Considering Ali, that might have been a calculated mistake.

  • James | December 1, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    No screen grabs but did anyone else see #85 of the Saints last night with out his sock pulled up and legs showing for the first two plays.

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    On the Saints first play last night, #85, TE David Thomas lined up in the backfield with his socks pulled down, revealing his calves. The next time I could spot him, they were pulled up. He was traded from the Pats to NO in September for a 7th round pick. I was wondering if his droopage was an homage to Pistol Pete, some sort of gesture toward the Pats, or just an oopsie. Anybody? Bueller?

  • Matt Beahan | December 1, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    Webber wasn’t the only player during that Bullets-Blazers game with different numbers – At least 2 others (Chris Whitney & Rod Strickland) had white numbers too. I’m trying to find out if they wore them in any other preseason games that year, but photos are few and far between…

  • Hank | December 1, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”364333″]FWIW
    The Senators were referred to as “Nats” habitually, especially in print, where the name was easier to fit into headlines.[/quote]
    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.

  • Jim Walaitis | December 1, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    “Kudos to Jerel Patch, who caught something the rest of us missed: The Avs have tweaked the “7″ in their uni number font.”

    They also seemed to have SIGNIFICANTLY altered the fonts for H,E,N,S,I,C, & K.

  • The Jeff | December 1, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”364341″][quote comment=”364333″]FWIW
    The Senators were referred to as “Nats” habitually, especially in print, where the name was easier to fit into headlines.[/quote]
    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.[/quote]

    Has anything like that ever happened to any other team, in any sport? Throwback games aside, no one ever refers to the Titans as the Oilers.

    The only thing I can take out of that situation is that Nationals is a really stupid name. Why else would fans refuse to use it for that long?

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    I’m still calling them the Bullets

  • War Damn Eagle | December 1, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”364331″][quote comment=”364327″]
    I believe the official name of the team was always “Washington Nationals Baseball Club” and Senators was an unofficial name – even though they used it on the uniforms at times and to my knolwedge didn’t use Nationals on the uniforms.
    [/quote]

    i believe the only time the washington ball club used “nationals” on the unis was 1905-06

    there was, of course, one snafu for one game in ’05 when long tom hughes and jake stahl showed up wearing this uniform for one game

    i think ricko blogged about it[/quote]

    That 1905 jersey probably explains the banner on the bottom of the patch the Expos wore in 2005 for their first season in DC.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I’m sorry, but the damn thing should have said “Established 1969.”

  • War Damn Eagle | December 1, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    There is one, and only one, reference to the Expos in Nationals Park: to my knowledge they are the only team outside Toronto that flies the Canadian flag at every home game (flag to the far right, alongside the DC flag and the US flag).

    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • Daniel | December 1, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    I’m guessing the graphic art department took the Saints logo from their jerseys (which is gold) when creating the helmet. This begs the question, what other teams have two different colored logos? i.e. Saints have black logo on helmet and gold on jersey…I can’t think of anyone else who does that off the top of my head.

  • The Jeff | December 1, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”364347″]I’m guessing the graphic art department took the Saints logo from their jerseys (which is gold) when creating the helmet. This begs the question, what other teams have two different colored logos? i.e. Saints have black logo on helmet and gold on jersey…I can’t think of anyone else who does that off the top of my head.[/quote]

    I think the Saints are unique in that their primary and secondary logos are the same thing only colored differently. Even at nfl.com, the Saints logo in the list of teams is the gold version.

    How their graphics people could manage to use the wrong logo and not realize it is beyond me.

  • The Jeff | December 1, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”364349″][quote comment=”364347″]I’m guessing the graphic art department took the Saints logo from their jerseys (which is gold) when creating the helmet. This begs the question, what other teams have two different colored logos? i.e. Saints have black logo on helmet and gold on jersey…I can’t think of anyone else who does that off the top of my head.[/quote]

    I think the Saints are unique in that their primary and secondary logos are the same thing only colored differently. Even at nfl.com, the Saints logo in the list of teams is the gold version.

    How their graphics people could manage to use the wrong logo and not realize it is beyond me.[/quote]

    Actually I take that back. The Giants would also fit into that group, as they have the blue & red version of the NY logo.

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    “i believe the only time the washington ball club used “nationals” on the unis was 1905-06

    there was, of course, one snafu for one game in ‘05 when long tom hughes and jake stahl showed up wearing this uniform for one game

    i think ricko blogged about it”

    Blogging was SO much easier back then. Skill-level requirements quite low. Didn’t even have to know how to type. Just needed a megaphone.

    —Ricko
    —Ricko

  • EddieAtari | December 1, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”364325″]MNF has been screwing up helmets all year – I believe they had the Broncos’ helmet wrong, the Saints one was wrong in the previous game they had on MNF, and one other, though I forgot to grab a screen-shot or right down the team.[/quote]

    … To me these look like helmet models from the ’70s

  • Stuby | December 1, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”364350″][quote comment=”364349″][quote comment=”364347″]I’m guessing the graphic art department took the Saints logo from their jerseys (which is gold) when creating the helmet. This begs the question, what other teams have two different colored logos? i.e. Saints have black logo on helmet and gold on jersey…I can’t think of anyone else who does that off the top of my head.[/quote]

    I think the Saints are unique in that their primary and secondary logos are the same thing only colored differently. Even at nfl.com, the Saints logo in the list of teams is the gold version.

    How their graphics people could manage to use the wrong logo and not realize it is beyond me.[/quote]

    Actually I take that back. The Giants would also fit into that group, as they have the blue & red version of the NY logo.[/quote]
    The Colts flip the colors of their logo sometimes, but not on the unis…

    http://www.colts.com...

  • M.Princip | December 1, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    I thought that they more resembles the:

    Adidas Campus:
    http://www.shopadida...

    or the

    Adidas Gazelle:
    http://boodsbootery....

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    Paul Lukas said:

    “Did you know the Saints’ colors were originally supposed to be blue, white, and gold?”

    No, I didn’t, which leads to my inevitable question…

    Hey Phil, when you have a moment, can we see a mockup of that?

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    is it not possible that the uppers are sambas but with micro dot turf soles? or didn’t they customize shoes then like they do now…

  • M.Princip | December 1, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”364355″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    I thought that they more resembles the:

    Adidas Campus:
    http://www.shopadida...

    or the

    Adidas Gazelle:
    http://boodsbootery....

    However, the soles look thinner, Samba like. :o)

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    So if Saint Anselm and West Georgia have my two favorite Division II unis, and if West Georgia looks like Louisiana Tech, http://farm3.static.... why wasn’t Tech in my top ten list of Div. I unis? Uh, ’cause I forgot about them. Good eye, Josh.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”364351″]”i believe the only time the washington ball club used “nationals” on the unis was 1905-06

    there was, of course, one snafu for one game in ‘05 when long tom hughes and jake stahl showed up wearing this uniform for one game

    i think ricko blogged about it”

    Blogging was SO much easier back then. Skill-level requirements quite low. Didn’t even have to know how to type. Just needed a megaphone.

    —Ricko
    —Ricko[/quote]

    Telegraph was too newfangled for ya? ;)

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”364356″]Paul Lukas said:

    “Did you know the Saints’ colors were originally supposed to be blue, white, and gold?”

    No, I didn’t, which leads to my inevitable question…

    Hey Phil, when you have a moment, can we see a mockup of that?[/quote]

    so you want “mecom blue”… a ” color falling somewhere in the spectrum between Carolina blue and royal blue.” … and gold … we’ll assume that’s the same color gold as they use now

    if i get some time, yeah

  • Shaggy | December 1, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    Now for a real auction!!! http://solecollector...

    Nike Uniform Lockers for Charity

  • Shaun | December 1, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    Hey i know this is almost a week late, but in the post by Phil on the 28th, i noticed that the Lake Erie unis are almost exactly the same as the Georgia Force old jerseys http://image.cdnl3.x...

  • Mickel Yantz | December 1, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”364358″][quote comment=”364355″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    I thought that they more resembles the:

    Adidas Campus:
    http://www.shopadida...

    or the

    Adidas Gazelle:
    http://boodsbootery....

    However, the soles look thinner, Samba like. :o)[/quote]

    I would also assume the micro dot sole would be great for the Kingdome turf games, but he would have another pair for outdoor games. Also by Adidas.

  • EddieAtari | December 1, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    Quick article on why BYU went with royal blue throwbacks against the Utes this weekend… I love the NW’ern stripes on the sleeve AND pants!… (click here for slideshow)…

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”364363″]Hey i know this is almost a week late, but in the post by Phil on the 28th, i noticed that the Lake Erie unis are almost exactly the same as the Georgia Force old jerseys http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Here are the Lake Erie unis of which he speaks:
    http://www.hilltoppe...

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”364366″][quote comment=”364363″]Hey i know this is almost a week late, but in the post by Phil on the 28th, i noticed that the Lake Erie unis are almost exactly the same as the Georgia Force old jerseys http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Here are the Lake Erie unis of which he speaks:
    http://www.hilltoppe...

    Speaking of Lake Erie…I never noticed this – #8 has a bunch of swooshes on his socks. Or is he wearing three wristbands on each leg?

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”364357″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    is it not possible that the uppers are sambas but with micro dot turf soles? or didn’t they customize shoes then like they do now…[/quote]

    Sambas would have been a bit a bit too slick for attempting NFL football. Indoor soccer, yeah, but too much hard cutting in football. I had a pair of the shoes in question, but I’ll be damned if can remember the model name. “Touchdown”, maybe? Or “Gridiron” or “Grid Star”? Something of that ilk. It was as a shoe designed for artificial turf football. Not soccer.

    —Ricko

  • JL | December 1, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”364332″]Question for the group: While watching the MIZZOU vs. Kansas game Saturday, the logo at mid-field was the “regular” helmets each team wears – however, neither team wore that helmet during the game (MU had the riflery, and KU wen w/ the Jayhawk). Same w/ the Texas vs. A&M game – has this ever happened before that NEITHER team wore the helmet displayed on the field?[/quote]

    Texas A&M actually had the same logo at mid-field as they wore on their helmets vs Texas, honoring the 10 year anniversary of those lost in the bonfire tragedy.

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”364360″][quote comment=”364351″]”i believe the only time the washington ball club used “nationals” on the unis was 1905-06

    there was, of course, one snafu for one game in ‘05 when long tom hughes and jake stahl showed up wearing this uniform for one game

    i think ricko blogged about it”

    Blogging was SO much easier back then. Skill-level requirements quite low. Didn’t even have to know how to type. Just needed a megaphone.

    —Ricko
    —Ricko[/quote]

    Telegraph was too newfangled for ya? ;)[/quote]

    Was like before “wireless” (both then AND now), always had to find a place to go “online”. Kind of a pain.

    —Ricko

  • Kevin | December 1, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    Interesting socks about 2/3 down the page. (Class 2A Millwood vs. Verdegris). I am assuming they came that way, but I am not sure why…

    http://www.coachesai...

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”364371″]Interesting socks about 2/3 down the page. (Class 2A Millwood vs. Verdegris). I am assuming they came that way, but I am not sure why…

    http://www.coachesai...

    Yikes! Those are just…well they’re definitely not my style: http://www.coachesai...

    Hmm, ever wonder what would happen if you mash up Miami and Georgia? http://www.coachesai...

  • Kenny Jacobson | December 1, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”364361″][quote comment=”364356″]Paul Lukas said:

    “Did you know the Saints’ colors were originally supposed to be blue, white, and gold?”

    No, I didn’t, which leads to my inevitable question…

    Hey Phil, when you have a moment, can we see a mockup of that?[/quote]

    so you want “mecom blue”… a ” color falling somewhere in the spectrum between Carolina blue and royal blue.” … and gold … we’ll assume that’s the same color gold as they use now

    if i get some time, yeah[/quote]
    Saints in blue….?

    1
    2

  • M.Princip | December 1, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”364364″][quote comment=”364358″][quote comment=”364355″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    I thought that they more resembles the:

    Adidas Campus:
    http://www.shopadida...

    or the

    Adidas Gazelle:
    http://boodsbootery....

    However, the soles look thinner, Samba like. :o)[/quote]

    I would also assume the micro dot sole would be great for the Kingdome turf games, but he would have another pair for outdoor games. Also by Adidas.[/quote]

    Yep, they switched to what Sherman Smith is wearing here. BTW, one of my favorite Seahawk pics ever. Reminds me of Chuck Ren’s classic DAMAC Bears poster.

  • Kek | December 1, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]
    Possibly, but the photo from your site shows more of a gum sole, that shot looks more black to me

  • Kek | December 1, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”364368″][quote comment=”364357″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    is it not possible that the uppers are sambas but with micro dot turf soles? or didn’t they customize shoes then like they do now…[/quote]

    Sambas would have been a bit a bit too slick for attempting NFL football. Indoor soccer, yeah, but too much hard cutting in football. I had a pair of the shoes in question, but I’ll be damned if can remember the model name. “Touchdown”, maybe? Or “Gridiron” or “Grid Star”? Something of that ilk. It was as a shoe designed for artificial turf football. Not soccer.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    come to think of it, the tongue is much bigger and higher on the samba, that show largent has is more conventional, although he could have cut the tongue down if he wanted to.

  • Kek | December 1, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    Mr. Mayer, great Dukes’ inspired membership card.

    To you nostagia buffs, the Dukes and Pitt will play the City Game tomorrow night in the final basketball game played at Mellon Arena.

  • mmwatkin | December 1, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”364369″][quote comment=”364332″]Question for the group: While watching the MIZZOU vs. Kansas game Saturday, the logo at mid-field was the “regular” helmets each team wears – however, neither team wore that helmet during the game (MU had the riflery, and KU wen w/ the Jayhawk). Same w/ the Texas vs. A&M game – has this ever happened before that NEITHER team wore the helmet displayed on the field?[/quote]

    Texas A&M actually had the same logo at mid-field as they wore on their helmets vs Texas, honoring the 10 year anniversary of those lost in the bonfire tragedy.[/quote]

    Thank you for bringing this up, I have a question about the Texas A&M logo.

    I noticed that they do not wear the same logo on the helmet as on the field. The field logo is the 3-D beveled looking logo and the helmet logo is just the solid color logo.

    Why the inconsistency?

  • muddlehead | December 1, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    great nords vid. thanks. crazy how coach pocket rocket says most important thing is to stay in your position. and, if one on your line is tired, everyone off. not really unique team strategies, eh?

  • Fight | December 1, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”364376″][quote comment=”364368″][quote comment=”364357″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    is it not possible that the uppers are sambas but with micro dot turf soles? or didn’t they customize shoes then like they do now…[/quote]

    Sambas would have been a bit a bit too slick for attempting NFL football. Indoor soccer, yeah, but too much hard cutting in football. I had a pair of the shoes in question, but I’ll be damned if can remember the model name. “Touchdown”, maybe? Or “Gridiron” or “Grid Star”? Something of that ilk. It was as a shoe designed for artificial turf football. Not soccer.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    come to think of it, the tongue is much bigger and higher on the samba, that show largent has is more conventional, although he could have cut the tongue down if he wanted to.[/quote]
    Could these be the shoes Largent is wearing? http://www.shoes.com...
    They are called the Adidas Vintage Turf

  • Fight | December 1, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”364376″][quote comment=”364368″][quote comment=”364357″][quote comment=”364354″]Per the conversation we were having yesterday about <a href="Steve Largent’s Adidas possibly being Sambas?“> Well, they look like Sambas, however, this pair has the black micro dot turf soles; i.e. like this example Pony turf shoes. I believe this is the shoe, at left here.[/quote]

    is it not possible that the uppers are sambas but with micro dot turf soles? or didn’t they customize shoes then like they do now…[/quote]

    Sambas would have been a bit a bit too slick for attempting NFL football. Indoor soccer, yeah, but too much hard cutting in football. I had a pair of the shoes in question, but I’ll be damned if can remember the model name. “Touchdown”, maybe? Or “Gridiron” or “Grid Star”? Something of that ilk. It was as a shoe designed for artificial turf football. Not soccer.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    come to think of it, the tongue is much bigger and higher on the samba, that show largent has is more conventional, although he could have cut the tongue down if he wanted to.[/quote]
    Could these be Largent’s shoes? http://www.shoes.com...

    They are called the Adidas Vintage Turf

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    ok wendell vilkie

    the hardest thing was figuring out what the hell “mecom” blue is…and this prolly aint it

  • Fight | December 1, 2009 at 12:41 pm |

    Could these be Largent’s shoes? http://www.trainerst...

    The Adidas Vintage Turf, yes – a current model, but it is a re-make of an old model (IIRC, sneakerheads feel free to correct me)

  • Mike Engle | December 1, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”364343″][quote comment=”364341″][quote comment=”364333″]FWIW
    The Senators were referred to as “Nats” habitually, especially in print, where the name was easier to fit into headlines.[/quote]
    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.[/quote]

    Has anything like that ever happened to any other team, in any sport? Throwback games aside, no one ever refers to the Titans as the Oilers.

    The only thing I can take out of that situation is that Nationals is a really stupid name. Why else would fans refuse to use it for that long?[/quote]
    The Bennett City Hijackers or Zombie Sonics.
    Better and more appropriate than whatever Kevin Durant’s Future Ex-Team wants Bill Simmons or me to call them.

  • timmy b | December 1, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    Last night at 6 PM here in PA, PCN (the Keystone State’s version of C-SPAN), on their PCN Tours show, ran a feature on the Majestic Athletic wear plant near Bangor, PA. The tour “guide” was Faust Capobianco, who runs the shop. Very interesting and informative.

    It is a bit old (2004), but still enlightening.

  • Kek | December 1, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”364385″]Last night at 6 PM here in PA, PCN (the Keystone State’s version of C-SPAN), on their PCN Tours show, ran a feature on the Majestic Athletic wear plant near Bangor, PA. The tour “guide” was Faust Capobianco, who runs the shop. Very interesting and informative.

    It is a bit old (2004), but still enlightening.[/quote]
    man, it always seems I miss the ones I want to see. Yuengling was on Sunday night and I was all caught up in getting ready for the Steelers’ game

    I guess they replay those enough though.

  • Kasey | December 1, 2009 at 1:04 pm |

    Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight. A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

  • Kasey | December 1, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    Here is a video of the new Blackhawks sweater

    http://www.chicagobr...

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”364387″]Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight.

    A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

    Game is on Versus, too.

  • Tom Farley | December 1, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    Speaking of Jeff Ash: He’s the researcher, editor and writer of “Titletown’s Team: A Photographic History of the Green Bay Packers.” It’s just out, and it’s one of the best Packers history books I’ve ever seen. Meticulously researched, and a treasure trove of Packers photos (and, by extension, NFL photos). Well done, Jeff.

  • Ry Co 40 | December 1, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”364389″][quote comment=”364387″]Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight.

    A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

    Game is on Versus, too.[/quote]

    so 3/4’s of the us and canada WON’T see it! LOL

  • Brian | December 1, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    i posted about this yesterday, can anyone help?

    i swore i saw someone was making “ali, bumaye” t-shirts. anyone know what website has them?

  • Fight | December 1, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    sorry about the multiple posts gang, not sure why it happened

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”364391″][quote comment=”364389″][quote comment=”364387″]Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight.

    A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

    Game is on Versus, too.[/quote]

    so 3/4’s of the us and canada WON’T see it! LOL[/quote]

    Keeping the UW minority informed, that’s me.

    Does it also mean more in U.S. can see this regular season NHL game than could see the Grey Cup live last Sunday? Or worse, that more in U.S. had access to UFL title game than the Grey Cup?

    Not saying should be one or the other, or the other. Saying a shame one of them wasn’t in the picture. Literally.
    Arrgh.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    Speaking of Grey Cup…

    Any guesses on where Marc Trestman might be head man next year?
    Some say he’s overdue for an NFL head coaching position.

    Let’s hope the Al’s unis weren’t his idea, though. Don’t need “Bills-look creep” in NFL.

    —Ricko

  • James P. | December 1, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”364359″]So if Saint Anselm and West Georgia have my two favorite Division II unis, and if West Georgia looks like Louisiana Tech, http://farm3.static.... why wasn’t Tech in my top ten list of Div. I unis? Uh, ’cause I forgot about them. Good eye, Josh.[/quote]

    Eh, it’s ok. Louisiana Tech gets overlooked more often than not. Hell, they have only 2nd to Michigan the longest used helmet logo, and they have used “bulldogs” as their mascot longer than any other formerly D-1 school…neither are mentioned that often, and their unis are normally overlooked in favor for LSU, or UCLA.

  • mmwatkin | December 1, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    Didn’t the NCAA remove the penalty for color-on-color games? does anyone have a link for the rule change?

  • Kasey | December 1, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    I see I posted the wrong link earlier for the video of the new Blackhawks sweater. Here is the correct one

    http://blackhawks.nh...|CHI|home&navid=DL|CHI|home

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”364397″]Didn’t the NCAA remove the penalty for color-on-color games? does anyone have a link for the rule change?[/quote]

    yes…in february:

    Approved a request to allow teams, when approved by the conference office and agreed to by both teams, to wear colored jerseys as long as they are clearly contrasting in color. When an agreement is unable to be reached, the visiting team shall wear white.

    the key words here of course are “approved by the conference” and “agreed to by both teams”

    you can still have dickhead coaches who, for example, will force GT or LSU to wear color at home

    i think the “penalty” for failure of the visiting team to wear white was a loss of a time out per half

  • mmwatkin | December 1, 2009 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”364399″][quote comment=”364397″]Didn’t the NCAA remove the penalty for color-on-color games? does anyone have a link for the rule change?[/quote]

    yes…in february:

    Approved a request to allow teams, when approved by the conference office and agreed to by both teams, to wear colored jerseys as long as they are clearly contrasting in color. When an agreement is unable to be reached, the visiting team shall wear white.

    the key words here of course are “approved by the conference” and “agreed to by both teams”

    you can still have dickhead coaches who, for example, will force GT or LSU to wear color at home

    i think the “penalty” for failure of the visiting team to wear white was a loss of a time out per half[/quote]

    Thanks.

  • mmwatkin | December 1, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    Looking through the NCAA football rule book, teams are not allowed to have collar border more than 1 inch wide.

    Anyone think this is more than one inch?

    http://live.psu.edu/...

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”364401″]Looking through the NCAA football rule book, teams are not allowed to have collar border more than 1 inch wide.

    Anyone think this is more than one inch?

    http://live.psu.edu/...

    Collar borders are dogs great.

  • Robert | December 1, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”364373″][quote comment=”364361″][quote comment=”364356″]Paul Lukas said:

    “Did you know the Saints’ colors were originally supposed to be blue, white, and gold?”

    No, I didn’t, which leads to my inevitable question…

    Hey Phil, when you have a moment, can we see a mockup of that?[/quote]

    so you want “mecom blue”… a ” color falling somewhere in the spectrum between Carolina blue and royal blue.” … and gold … we’ll assume that’s the same color gold as they use now

    if i get some time, yeah[/quote]
    Saints in blue….?

    1
    2[/quote]

    Presenting your Pitt Panthers!

  • M.Princip | December 1, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”364383″]Could these be Largent’s shoes? http://www.trainerst...

    The Adidas Vintage Turf, yes – a current model, but it is a re-make of an old model (IIRC, sneakerheads feel free to correct me)[/quote]

    No, back in the day Adidas, Puma, Converse, etc. all made a special astro turf shoe specifically for that turf. Most notable feature were the micro dot cleats.

    Here is one of my favorite styles. By Puma and worn by the likes of Fran Tarkenton and Jim Zorn.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”364394″][quote comment=”364391″][quote comment=”364389″][quote comment=”364387″]Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight.

    A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

    Game is on Versus, too.[/quote]

    so 3/4’s of the us and canada WON’T see it! LOL[/quote]

    Keeping the UW minority informed, that’s me.

    Does it also mean more in U.S. can see this regular season NHL game than could see the Grey Cup live last Sunday? Or worse, that more in U.S. had access to UFL title game than the Grey Cup?

    Not saying should be one or the other, or the other. Saying a shame one of them wasn’t in the picture. Literally.
    Arrgh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Not saying this makes up for not having it on TV, but ESPN360 was great. If you can handle lots of Verizon Droid ads and SportsCenter promos (both beat the usual commercials you get during a football broadcast) then I recommend watching a sporting event on there. Last night I found out you can watch the Grand Final of Aussie Rules Football. Can’t wait to see the rest of it later.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”364403″][quote comment=”364373″][quote comment=”364361″][quote comment=”364356″]Paul Lukas said:

    “Did you know the Saints’ colors were originally supposed to be blue, white, and gold?”

    No, I didn’t, which leads to my inevitable question…

    Hey Phil, when you have a moment, can we see a mockup of that?[/quote]

    so you want “mecom blue”… a ” color falling somewhere in the spectrum between Carolina blue and royal blue.” … and gold … we’ll assume that’s the same color gold as they use now

    if i get some time, yeah[/quote]
    Saints in blue….?

    1
    2[/quote]

    Presenting your Pitt Panthers![/quote]

    I was thinking that in the right light, you could confuse them for LSU as well. I like the look, but maybe a lighter blue would work.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”364382″]ok wendell vilkie

    the hardest thing was figuring out what the hell “mecom” blue is…and this prolly aint it[/quote]

    Close enough – I’ll take it!

    Thanks.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”364395″]Speaking of Grey Cup…

    Any guesses on where Marc Trestman might be head man next year?
    Some say he’s overdue for an NFL head coaching position.

    Let’s hope the Al’s unis weren’t his idea, though. Don’t need “Bills-look creep” in NFL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    A friend of mine is a Seahawks fan. He was wondering if Mora’s on the way out, so I told him not to expect any big names until the lockout is resolved. I said Trestman might be a candidate, since he’s not high-profile in the states (although if they showed more of the CFL here he would be).

    Hmm, wonder what an Alouette-inspired Seahawks uni would look like…

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”364408″][quote comment=”364395″]Speaking of Grey Cup…

    Any guesses on where Marc Trestman might be head man next year?
    Some say he’s overdue for an NFL head coaching position.

    Let’s hope the Al’s unis weren’t his idea, though. Don’t need “Bills-look creep” in NFL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    A friend of mine is a Seahawks fan. He was wondering if Mora’s on the way out, so I told him not to expect any big names until the lockout is resolved. I said Trestman might be a candidate, since he’s not high-profile in the states (although if they showed more of the CFL here he would be).

    Hmm, wonder what an Alouette-inspired Seahawks uni would look like…[/quote]

    Well, if they modified the current set, probably like Puget Sound with a few McDonald’s wrappers floating around. And a bit of foil from a Kit Kat.

    —Ricko

  • JL | December 1, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”364391″][quote comment=”364389″][quote comment=”364387″]Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight.

    A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

    Game is on Versus, too.[/quote]

    so 3/4’s of the us and canada WON’T see it! LOL[/quote]

    Supposed to be on TSN2, whatever that means…eh?

  • War Damn Eagle | December 1, 2009 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”364407″][quote comment=”364382″]ok wendell vilkie

    the hardest thing was figuring out what the hell “mecom” blue is…and this prolly aint it[/quote]

    Close enough – I’ll take it!

    Thanks.[/quote]

    So how does that create confusion with what the Chargers were wearing at the time? I’m not seeing it.

    http://www.christopd...

    http://media.photobu...

    Do a color tweak for a Saints ’67 uni, switching the black to mecom blue, and it’s still not close. The golds are completely different.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”364412″][quote comment=”364407″][quote comment=”364382″]ok wendell vilkie

    the hardest thing was figuring out what the hell “mecom” blue is…and this prolly aint it[/quote]

    Close enough – I’ll take it!

    Thanks.[/quote]

    So how does that create confusion with what the Chargers were wearing at the time? I’m not seeing it.

    http://www.christopd...

    http://media.photobu...

    Do a color tweak for a Saints ’67 uni, switching the black to mecom blue, and it’s still not close. The golds are completely different.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    More likely someone in the league looked only at the color palette, not the specific uni, and went by that. Unis can change from era to era (see Falcons, and Chargers as examples) but the color palette usually goes on and on.

    Hey, that John Hadl shot is good one of the “three blue” ’67 unis. Virtually a navy jersey, royal bolt on pants, powder socks (don’t look too much like it there, but they were).
    http://media.photobu...

    —Ricko

  • War Damn Eagle | December 1, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    just imagine what this badboy would have looked like if you swapped out all the black for “mecom blue.”

    http://assets.sbnati...

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    What may not have been recalled in the Saints story is that the NFL also had a “Honolulu Blue” team (Lions) and a powder team (Oilers) as well as the Chargers, who in ’67 varied from “lighter than royal” color but soon returned to it.

    So, in terms of laying all NFL color palettes on the table at the time, I can see why they might have thought another “take” on blue would be one too many.

    Not agreeing or disagreeing, just saying it’s a reasonable conclusion someone could draw.

    —Ricko

  • mike | December 1, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...

  • mike 2 | December 1, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”364411″][quote comment=”364391″][quote comment=”364389″][quote comment=”364387″]Blackhawks to unveil new alt sweaters tonight.

    A variation of their Winter Classic sweaters from last year.

    http://www.chicagobr...

    Game is on Versus, too.[/quote]

    so 3/4’s of the us and canada WON’T see it! LOL[/quote]

    Supposed to be on TSN2, whatever that means…eh?[/quote]

    90% of the time TSN2 shows the same stuff as TSN but on a 3 hour tape delay so those of use who get home late (workaholics, west coasters) can still see it.

    10% of the time, there’s 2 events going on at the same time that TSN has rights to, they put one on each network.

  • War Damn Eagle | December 1, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels….http://www.squirrels...

  • War Damn Eagle | December 1, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels….http://www.squirrels...

    The Richmond Braves are now the Gwinnett Braves, the AAA affiliate of the Atlanta Braves.

    The Richmond Flying Squirrels were formerly the Connecticut Defenders, the AA affiliate of the San Fran Giants.

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels….http://www.squirrels...

    Late last season:
    “Okay, okay, jeez…if you lollygaggers can accumulate enough frequent flyer miles by Thanksgiving, we’ll SELL the damn team bus.”

    or…

    Gee, does that mean they’re now a farm club of the “Rockys”?
    (“Hey, Rock, watch me pull a rabbit…”)

    Oh, man, that last one’s so bad even I”M groaning.

    —Ricko

  • Bob Loblaw | December 1, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”364404″][quote comment=”364383″]Could these be Largent’s shoes? http://www.trainerst...

    The Adidas Vintage Turf, yes – a current model, but it is a re-make of an old model (IIRC, sneakerheads feel free to correct me)[/quote]

    No, back in the day Adidas, Puma, Converse, etc. all made a special astro turf shoe specifically for that turf. Most notable feature were the micro dot cleats.

    Here is one of my favorite styles. By Puma and worn by the likes of Fran Tarkenton and Jim Zorn.[/quote]

    I used a soccer version of those called ‘special turfs’. brillant shoe, K leather, awesome fold over tongue–very euro at the time (’82-85)

  • Fight | December 1, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”364421″][quote comment=”364404″][quote comment=”364383″]Could these be Largent’s shoes? http://www.trainerst...

    The Adidas Vintage Turf, yes – a current model, but it is a re-make of an old model (IIRC, sneakerheads feel free to correct me)[/quote]

    No, back in the day Adidas, Puma, Converse, etc. all made a special astro turf shoe specifically for that turf. Most notable feature were the micro dot cleats.

    Here is one of my favorite styles. By Puma and worn by the likes of Fran Tarkenton and Jim Zorn.[/quote]

    I used a soccer version of those called ‘special turfs’. brillant shoe, K leather, awesome fold over tongue–very euro at the time (’82-85)[/quote]

    i’m reminded of the spot-bilts all of my junior high coaches wore for football when looking at those …

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”364420″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels….http://www.squirrels...

    Late last season:
    “Okay, okay, jeez…if you lollygaggers can accumulate enough frequent flyer miles by Thanksgiving, we’ll SELL the damn team bus.”

    or…

    Gee, does that mean they’re now a farm club of the “Rockys”?
    (“Hey, Rock, watch me pull a rabbit…”)

    Oh, man, that last one’s so bad even I”M groaning.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Hokey Smokes, I thought of Rocket J. also. He’s a lot less menacing than the rodent from the Old Dominion, however.

  • Bob Loblaw | December 1, 2009 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...
    The Richmond rockys???

    I shocked, i would have thought Bullwinkel merited a team before his better looking co-hort.
    Heck, even Boris Badenough…. this is quite shocking!

  • Mike Miller | December 1, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    That isn’t the first time Dayton has worn blue uniforms, although it may be the first time they have worn royal/dark blue. They wore sky blue uniforms as an alternate/throwback previously.

    http://alt.coxnewswe...

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”364424″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...
    The Richmond rockys???

    I shocked, i would have thought Bullwinkel merited a team before his better looking co-hort.
    Heck, even Boris Badenough…. this is quite shocking![/quote]

    http://www.moosehock...

  • Bob Loblaw | December 1, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”364426″][quote comment=”364424″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...
    The Richmond rockys???

    I shocked, i would have thought Bullwinkel merited a team before his better looking co-hort.
    Heck, even Boris Badenough…. this is quite shocking![/quote]

    http://www.moosehock...

    I’m w/ you on the Manitoba Moose, Leon…but that Richmond logo IS Rocky — and the Manitoba ppl would be well served if they incorporated the studly Bullwinkel into their look. That ‘fierce’ Moose ain’t cuttin’ it.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”364407″][quote comment=”364382″]ok wendell vilkie

    the hardest thing was figuring out what the hell “mecom” blue is…and this prolly aint it[/quote]

    Close enough – I’ll take it!

    Thanks.[/quote]

    By the way, I’m not saying I don’t like the Saints the way they are now. They look great in black (except for the ninja leotard thing), but if they went with “Mecom Blue” (wasn’t that a Steely Dan song?) I would have been okay with that too.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”364420″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels….http://www.squirrels...

    Late last season:
    “Okay, okay, jeez…if you lollygaggers can accumulate enough frequent flyer miles by Thanksgiving, we’ll SELL the damn team bus.”

    or…

    Gee, does that mean they’re now a farm club of the “Rockys”?
    (“Hey, Rock, watch me pull a rabbit…”)

    Oh, man, that last one’s so bad even I”M groaning.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You know I’m going to be talking like Bullwinkle for the rest of the day, now. I feel sorry for the wife and kids tonight…

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”364428″]”Mecom Blue” (wasn’t that a Steely Dan song?) I would have been okay with that too.[/quote]

    they call alabama the “crimson tide”

    call me “mecom blue”

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”364429″][quote comment=”364420″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels….http://www.squirrels...

    Late last season:
    “Okay, okay, jeez…if you lollygaggers can accumulate enough frequent flyer miles by Thanksgiving, we’ll SELL the damn team bus.”

    or…

    Gee, does that mean they’re now a farm club of the “Rockys”?
    (“Hey, Rock, watch me pull a rabbit…”)

    Oh, man, that last one’s so bad even I”M groaning.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You know I’m going to be talking like Bullwinkle for the rest of the day, now. I feel sorry for the wife and kids tonight…[/quote]
    wife might like it.

  • leon | December 1, 2009 at 4:56 pm |

    http://www.wichitara...

    anti-spam word “dan”, btw

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 5:14 pm |

    For those who still cling to the notion that the NEW YORK POST is a bastion of journalist integrity, please note that two minutes before the police news conference in Orlando, the POST reported Tiger Woods would be charged with DUI.

    How accurate did that turn out to be?

    –Ricko

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”364432″]http://www.wichitaranch.com/horse-mecomblue.htm

    anti-spam word “dan”, btw[/quote]

    No shipped what??

  • TC Mark | December 1, 2009 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...

    Yet another illegible font, ala Timberwolves, etc. Impossible to decipher at any size. But I’d hate to “devalue” a professional designers hard work…

    And is there some historical connection between Richmond and Flying Squirrels? If not just silly/stupid. Even if there is a connection…

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”364432″]http://www.wichitaranch.com/horse-mecomblue.htm

    anti-spam word “dan”, btw[/quote]

    “No shipped semen”

    /just sayin

  • Teebz | December 1, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”364427″][quote comment=”364426″][quote comment=”364424″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...
    The Richmond rockys???

    I shocked, i would have thought Bullwinkel merited a team before his better looking co-hort.
    Heck, even Boris Badenough…. this is quite shocking![/quote]

    http://www.moosehock...

    I’m w/ you on the Manitoba Moose, Leon…but that Richmond logo IS Rocky — and the Manitoba ppl would be well served if they incorporated the studly Bullwinkel into their look. That ‘fierce’ Moose ain’t cuttin’ it.[/quote]

    Um… the Moose used to have a fairly unassuming logo. The more aggressive Moose has been a much better seller in terms of merchandise.

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 5:44 pm |

    ya know…i thought i read this in that NO saints article (see p.2) … the one where we learned about “mecom blue”…there was this statement…which im PRETTY DAMN SURE WAS FALSE:

    “There was one season when we wore black helmets,” Becknell recalled. “Some people liked them, some people didn’t.”

    now…did they EVER wear black helmets in ANY regular season game? i thought it was (maybe) the 1969 preseason…but not the regular season

    ricko? timmy b? larry b? paul?

    anyone know if that is true, or just some old geezer “remembering” history that didn’t happen (like the blue brown bronco horseys)

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”364438″]ya know…i thought i read this in that NO saints article (see p.2) … the one where we learned about “mecom blue”…there was this statement…which im PRETTY DAMN SURE WAS FALSE:

    “There was one season when we wore black helmets,” Becknell recalled. “Some people liked them, some people didn’t.”

    now…did they EVER wear black helmets in ANY regular season game? i thought it was (maybe) the 1969 preseason…but not the regular season

    ricko? timmy b? larry b? paul?

    anyone know if that is true, or just some old geezer “remembering” history that didn’t happen (like the blue brown bronco horseys)[/quote]

    Near as I can tell, they wore black helmets only once, for a presason game against the Falcons. Was ’68 or ’69, not sure. A night game, because I have a photo from it.

    —Ricko

  • jesse | December 1, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”364435″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...

    Yet another illegible font, ala Timberwolves, etc. Impossible to decipher at any size. But I’d hate to “devalue” a professional designers hard work…

    And is there some historical connection between Richmond and Flying Squirrels? If not just silly/stupid. Even if there is a connection…[/quote]
    I totally agree, Boris and Natasha would say a collective “Nyet”

  • Shaun | December 1, 2009 at 6:11 pm |

    http://photo.byu.edu...

    why the #47? if you click through its at the 3:13 mark… number 7 for BYU has a 47 on his arm

  • Shaun | December 1, 2009 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”364441″]http://photo.byu.edu/video.php?cat1=Slide%20Shows&cat2=Sports&cat3=2009&cat4=09FTB%20vs%20Utah

    why the #47?

    if you click through its at the 3:13 mark… number 7 for BYU has a 47 on his arm[/quote]

    along with several others, and MDB on some too. any idea?

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”364433″]For those who still cling to the notion that the NEW YORK POST is a bastion of journalist integrity, please note that two minutes before the police news conference in Orlando, the POST reported Tiger Woods would be charged with DUI.

    How accurate did that turn out to be?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Oh yeah, The Post exudes integrity:

    http://1.bp.blogspot...

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”364442″][quote comment=”364441″]http://photo.byu.edu/video.php?cat1=Slide%20Shows&cat2=Sports&cat3=2009&cat4=09FTB%20vs%20Utah

    why the #47?

    if you click through its at the 3:13 mark… number 7 for BYU has a 47 on his arm[/quote]

    along with several others, and MDB on some too. any idea?[/quote]

    it would appear to be a tribute to terrance hooks, who suffered a season ending injury in november

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 6:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”364422″][quote comment=”364421″][quote comment=”364404″][quote comment=”364383″]Could these be Largent’s shoes? http://www.trainerst...

    The Adidas Vintage Turf, yes – a current model, but it is a re-make of an old model (IIRC, sneakerheads feel free to correct me)[/quote]

    No, back in the day Adidas, Puma, Converse, etc. all made a special astro turf shoe specifically for that turf. Most notable feature were the micro dot cleats.

    Here is one of my favorite styles. By Puma and worn by the likes of Fran Tarkenton and Jim Zorn.[/quote]

    I used a soccer version of those called ‘special turfs’. brillant shoe, K leather, awesome fold over tongue–very euro at the time (’82-85)[/quote]

    i’m reminded of the spot-bilts all of my junior high coaches wore for football when looking at those …[/quote]

    I don’t know how the hell any of you accomplished ANYTHING with such limited technology.

  • Shaun | December 1, 2009 at 6:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”364444″][quote comment=”364442″][quote comment=”364441″]http://photo.byu.edu/video.php?cat1=Slide%20Shows&cat2=Sports&cat3=2009&cat4=09FTB%20vs%20Utah

    why the #47?

    if you click through its at the 3:13 mark… number 7 for BYU has a 47 on his arm[/quote]

    along with several others, and MDB on some too. any idea?[/quote]

    it would appear to be a tribute to terrance hooks, who suffered a season ending injury on november 18th[/quote]

    gracias señor

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 6:54 pm |

    Check out this AWFUL nickname on front jersey:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    I would assume that this is Long Beach State?

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”364447″]Check out this AWFUL nickname on front jersey:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    I would assume that this is Long Beach State?[/quote]

    yup … long beach state vs. clemson…

    tigers won 87-79

  • mookatron | December 1, 2009 at 7:19 pm |

    Looks like the Jazz will be sporting the old green jerseys for the first time since they stopped wearing them back in the late 70’s/early 80’s.

    http://www.nba.com/h...

  • mookatron | December 1, 2009 at 7:20 pm |

    Green Jazz jerseys on Friday vs. IND.

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 7:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”364449″]Looks like the Jazz will be sporting the old green jerseys for the first time since they stopped wearing them back in the late 70’s/early 80’s.

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    Good timing, because I am in the infancy of my next DIY…Hint, hint

  • adam | December 1, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”364343″][quote comment=”364341″][quote comment=”364333″]FWIW
    The Senators were referred to as “Nats” habitually, especially in print, where the name was easier to fit into headlines.[/quote]
    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.[/quote]

    Has anything like that ever happened to any other team, in any sport? Throwback games aside, no one ever refers to the Titans as the Oilers.

    The only thing I can take out of that situation is that Nationals is a really stupid name. Why else would fans refuse to use it for that long?[/quote]

    in the mid 40’s the Phillies Owners, (Carpenter family i think) “unofficially” changed the name to the blue jays. complete with a birdie on the shoulder. It didn’t take.

  • TC Mark | December 1, 2009 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”364452″][quote comment=”364343″][quote comment=”364341″][quote comment=”364333″]FWIW
    The Senators were referred to as “Nats” habitually, especially in print, where the name was easier to fit into headlines.[/quote]
    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    in the mid 40’s the Phillies Owners, (Carpenter family i think) “unofficially” changed the name to the blue jays. complete with a birdie on the shoulder. It didn’t take.[/quote]

    I’ve seen that before…any reason why they changed? To sell more jerseys maybe? ;-)

  • Momofuku | December 1, 2009 at 8:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”364439″][quote comment=”364438″]ya know…i thought i read this in that NO saints article (see p.2) … the one where we learned about “mecom blue”…there was this statement…which im PRETTY DAMN SURE WAS FALSE:

    “There was one season when we wore black helmets,” Becknell recalled. “Some people liked them, some people didn’t.”

    now…did they EVER wear black helmets in ANY regular season game? i thought it was (maybe) the 1969 preseason…but not the regular season

    ricko? timmy b? larry b? paul?

    anyone know if that is true, or just some old geezer “remembering” history that didn’t happen (like the blue brown bronco horseys)[/quote]

    Near as I can tell, they wore black helmets only once, for a presason game against the Falcons. Was ’68 or ’69, not sure. A night game, because I have a photo from it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    here you go

    anti-spam word: toast (yummy)

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 8:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”364451″][quote comment=”364449″]Looks like the Jazz will be sporting the old green jerseys for the first time since they stopped wearing them back in the late 70’s/early 80’s.

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    Good timing, because I am in the infancy of my next DIY…Hint, hint[/quote]

    What font is used for “Utah” in this logo?

    http://www.sportslog...

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”364455″][quote comment=”364451″][quote comment=”364449″]Looks like the Jazz will be sporting the old green jerseys for the first time since they stopped wearing them back in the late 70’s/early 80’s.

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    Good timing, because I am in the infancy of my next DIY…Hint, hint[/quote]

    What font is used for “Utah” in this logo?

    http://www.sportslog...

    Try this one, dammit.
    http://www.sportslog...

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 8:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”364456″][quote comment=”364455″][quote comment=”364451″][quote comment=”364449″]Looks like the Jazz will be sporting the old green jerseys for the first time since they stopped wearing them back in the late 70’s/early 80’s.

    http://www.nba.com/h...

    Good timing, because I am in the infancy of my next DIY…Hint, hint[/quote]

    What font is used for “Utah” in this logo?

    http://www.sportslog...

    Try this one, dammit.
    http://www.sportslog...

    Forget it…Arial One Italic

  • LI Phil | December 1, 2009 at 8:56 pm |

    here matt…

    go to this page, where you can download the vector for the jazz

    if you can’t do that, just run this thru your printer … it should be large enough to fit a shirt; also, im sure you can enlarge it if need be

  • Frankie | December 1, 2009 at 9:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”364440″][quote comment=”364435″][quote comment=”364416″]The Richmond (Va) Braves are now the Richmond Flying Squirrels…. http://www.squirrels...

    Yet another illegible font, ala Timberwolves, etc. Impossible to decipher at any size. But I’d hate to “devalue” a professional designers hard work…

    And is there some historical connection between Richmond and Flying Squirrels? If not just silly/stupid. Even if there is a connection…[/quote]
    I totally agree, Boris and Natasha would say a collective “Nyet”[/quote]

    Though, the Flying Squirrels are the new Double A affiliate of the San Francisco Giants. Last year they were the Connecticut Defenders.

  • TC Mark | December 1, 2009 at 9:04 pm |

    In no way uni-related but timely and important )to some)

    Winter Beers

    http://cityguides.ms...

    Enjoy in moderation! Of course you’ll need to define moderation…

  • MPowers1634 | December 1, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”364458″]here matt…

    go to this page, where you can download the vector for the jazz

    if you can’t do that, just run this thru your printer … it should be large enough to fit a shirt; also, im sure you can enlarge it if need be[/quote]

    Thank you…with the cramer site/google and word, i can do the same!

    Now I am off to do some real uni-watching:

    Careful, VS might not be SFW:

    http://www.vsallacce...

  • Patrick in MI | December 1, 2009 at 10:03 pm |

    Those press pins in the auction were awesome! I especially loved the “phantom” 1959 version Milwaukee Braves with the headdress. Did the 1951 Dodgers pin http://www.huntaucti... remind anyone else of Mike Brito http://wwwc.mentalfl...

    Sort of a look into the Dodgers future!

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 10:39 pm |

    Time to paint the logos:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

    Georgia Dome’s getting spiffied up for the SEC Championship.

  • Taxman | December 1, 2009 at 10:49 pm |

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Okay – 1)the Saints need to revert to that old gold – such a sweet look… and b) Jim Taylor played fullback with a single bar on his helmet!!

  • Taxman | December 1, 2009 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”364463″]Time to paint the logos:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

    Georgia Dome’s getting spiffied up for the SEC Championship.[/quote]

    Does anyone else feel like these conference championship games at neutral sites are the definition of anti-climactic? Even though Saturday’s SEC matchup will be this week’s game of the decade, it still just feels like it’s out of place.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”364464″]http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1967/0814_large.jpg

    Okay – 1)the Saints need to revert to that old gold – such a sweet look… and b) Jim Taylor played fullback with a single bar on his helmet!![/quote]

    Never noticed the single white helmet stripe before – that’s an interesting look.

  • Kaptain K | December 1, 2009 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”364401″]Looking through the NCAA football rule book, teams are not allowed to have collar border more than 1 inch wide.

    Anyone think this is more than one inch?

    http://live.psu.edu/...

    I can’t tell… having a hard time getting past those wild and crazy flashy blue facemasks.

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”364466″][quote comment=”364464″]http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1967/0814_large.jpg

    Okay – 1)the Saints need to revert to that old gold – such a sweet look… and b) Jim Taylor played fullback with a single bar on his helmet!![/quote]

    Never noticed the single white helmet stripe before – that’s an interesting look.[/quote]

    Never wore it. That’s from the first training camp (when SI took the photo). By the time the Saints played, it was a black centerstripe adjoined by two white stripes. Second season switched to white stripe adjoined by two black stripes…which they wear to this day.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”364465″][quote comment=”364463″]Time to paint the logos:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

    Georgia Dome’s getting spiffied up for the SEC Championship.[/quote]

    Does anyone else feel like these conference championship games at neutral sites are the definition of anti-climactic? Even though Saturday’s SEC matchup will be this week’s game of the decade, it still just feels like it’s out of place.[/quote]

    I kinda like this one. The Big 12 doesn’t feel as right, but that’s because they broke up the Oklahoma/Nebraska rivalry. They probably assumed those two would be in the title game often, but Texas has had something to say about that.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”364468″][quote comment=”364466″][quote comment=”364464″]http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1967/0814_large.jpg

    Okay – 1)the Saints need to revert to that old gold – such a sweet look… and b) Jim Taylor played fullback with a single bar on his helmet!![/quote]

    Never noticed the single white helmet stripe before – that’s an interesting look.[/quote]

    Never wore it. That’s from the first training camp (when SI took the photo). By the time the Saints played, it was a black centerstripe adjoined by two white stripes. Second season switched to white stripe adjoined by two black stripes…which they wear to this day.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Yeah, I was squinting to read the date on there. Wasn’t sure if it was a training camp photo or if they started the season with those. Thanks.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:07 pm |

    Hey Phil, chew on this one whilst I head off to the store – instead of Mecom blue and gold, how ’bout the Saints in black and Mecom blue?

  • scrawford | December 1, 2009 at 11:07 pm |

    That’s not really a white number…it’s his time-out indicator. It’s reading “empty”.

  • Mike Engle | December 1, 2009 at 11:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”364471″]Hey Phil, chew on this one whilst I head off to the store – instead of Mecom blue and gold, how ’bout the Saints in black and Mecom blue?[/quote]
    Just say no.

  • JimV19 | December 1, 2009 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”364472″]That’s not really a white number…it’s his time-out indicator. It’s reading “empty”.[/quote]

    Took me a second, but I got ya…
    http://farm3.static....

  • Ricko | December 1, 2009 at 11:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”364473″][quote comment=”364471″]Hey Phil, chew on this one whilst I head off to the store – instead of Mecom blue and gold, how ’bout the Saints in black and Mecom blue?[/quote]
    Just say no.[/quote]

    That would almost be the Chicago Bruisers of the early Arena league.

  • Taxman | December 1, 2009 at 11:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”364469″][quote comment=”364465″][quote comment=”364463″]Time to paint the logos:
    http://espn-i.starwa...

    Georgia Dome’s getting spiffied up for the SEC Championship.[/quote]

    Does anyone else feel like these conference championship games at neutral sites are the definition of anti-climactic? Even though Saturday’s SEC matchup will be this week’s game of the decade, it still just feels like it’s out of place.[/quote]

    I kinda like this one. The Big 12 doesn’t feel as right, but that’s because they broke up the Oklahoma/Nebraska rivalry. They probably assumed those two would be in the title game often, but Texas has had something to say about that.[/quote]
    I hate that the ACC sold its soul to get 12 schools and a championship game – at the expense of having the old ACC schools playing home and home in hoops. ACC football is not any better for the change, BC is way out of place (shoulda added the WVa Mountaineers instead)and there is no buzz whatsoever for the upcoming Clemson/Ga Tech matchup in Tampa.

  • LarryB | December 1, 2009 at 11:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”364439″][quote comment=”364438″]ya know…i thought i read this in that NO saints article (see p.2) … the one where we learned about “mecom blue”…there was this statement…which im PRETTY DAMN SURE WAS FALSE:

    “There was one season when we wore black helmets,” Becknell recalled. “Some people liked them, some people didn’t.”

    now…did they EVER wear black helmets in ANY regular season game? i thought it was (maybe) the 1969 preseason…but not the regular season

    ricko? timmy b? larry b? paul?

    anyone know if that is true, or just some old geezer “remembering” history that didn’t happen (like the blue brown bronco horseys)[/quote]

    Near as I can tell, they wore black helmets only once, for a presason game against the Falcons. Was ’68 or ’69, not sure. A night game, because I have a photo from it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Pretty sure Ricko s correct. The black helmet was the talk of helmet clubs a while back.

  • LarryB | December 1, 2009 at 11:43 pm |

    Crap, had running around to do this afternoon and forgot the Blue Jackets were supposed to be on Versus vs the Blackhawks. Got home too late and did not set DVR. I rarely get to see the CBJ in my area of NE OHIO since the Penguins territory. I wanted to see the Blackhawks throwback

  • LarryB | December 1, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    Good stuff in those auctions. Fun to look at the items for sale.

  • LarryB | December 1, 2009 at 11:47 pm |

    I hope the Big Ten never goes to one of those so called conference championship games. I will watch as much as I can of them Saturday. But I do not like how teams can be 8-0 in conference and have to play a 5-3 team to decide so called championship.

  • The Jeff | December 2, 2009 at 12:03 am |

    [quote comment=”364480″]I hope the Big Ten never goes to one of those so called conference championship games. I will watch as much as I can of them Saturday. But I do not like how teams can be 8-0 in conference and have to play a 5-3 team to decide so called championship.[/quote]

    Yeah I hate it when a 16-0 team has to play some crappy 10-6 team in a championship game…

  • Jim BC | December 2, 2009 at 12:03 am |

    Hawks’ new alts look great. My only problem is the pants – WAY too busy… anyone know what the deal is with the red triangle on the front?

    http://espn.go.com/n...

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2009 at 12:12 am |

    [quote comment=”364481″][quote comment=”364480″]I hope the Big Ten never goes to one of those so called conference championship games. I will watch as much as I can of them Saturday. But I do not like how teams can be 8-0 in conference and have to play a 5-3 team to decide so called championship.[/quote]

    Yeah I hate it when a 16-0 team has to play some crappy 10-6 team in a championship game…[/quote]

    NCAA teams play 16 game schedules?

    since when

    ….wait…i get it

    you’re trying to bring up the greatest super bowl upset ever (yes, even bigger than broadway joe)

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2009 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”364477″][quote comment=”364439″][quote comment=”364438″]ya know…i thought i read this in that NO saints article (see p.2) … the one where we learned about “mecom blue”…there was this statement…which im PRETTY DAMN SURE WAS FALSE:

    “There was one season when we wore black helmets,” Becknell recalled. “Some people liked them, some people didn’t.”

    now…did they EVER wear black helmets in ANY regular season game? i thought it was (maybe) the 1969 preseason…but not the regular season

    ricko? timmy b? larry b? paul?

    anyone know if that is true, or just some old geezer “remembering” history that didn’t happen (like the blue brown bronco horseys)[/quote]

    Near as I can tell, they wore black helmets only once, for a presason game against the Falcons. Was ’68 or ’69, not sure. A night game, because I have a photo from it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Pretty sure Ricko s correct. The black helmet was the talk of helmet clubs a while back.[/quote]

    yeah…we’re all correct…ricko is right, and momofuko confirmed it

    i just thought the way the guy in the article phrased it, he made it sound like they played an entire season with black helmets — which is patently false

  • The Jeff | December 2, 2009 at 12:15 am |

    [quote comment=”364483″][quote comment=”364481″][quote comment=”364480″]I hope the Big Ten never goes to one of those so called conference championship games. I will watch as much as I can of them Saturday. But I do not like how teams can be 8-0 in conference and have to play a 5-3 team to decide so called championship.[/quote]

    Yeah I hate it when a 16-0 team has to play some crappy 10-6 team in a championship game…[/quote]

    NCAA teams play 16 game schedules?

    since when

    ….wait…i get it

    you’re trying to bring up the greatest super bowl upset ever (yes, even bigger than broadway joe)[/quote]

    Thank you Captain Obvious! :)

    Just my way of saying that making the best teams play each other for a championship is better than deciding it on nothing but records and votes.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2009 at 12:24 am |

    [quote comment=”364485″]
    Just my way of saying that making the best teams play each other for a championship is better than deciding it on nothing but records and votes.[/quote]

    i wholeheartedly will agree with you there

    too bad they don’t actually decide the BCS championship the right way

  • Chris | December 2, 2009 at 12:45 am |

    Nike is doing a campaign with that Bono Red charity.

    We might be seeing red shoe laces popping up in random places soon.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2009 at 1:01 am |

    [quote comment=”364487″]Nike is doing a campaign with that Bono Red charity.

    We might be seeing red shoe laces popping up in random places soon.[/quote]

    FUCK

  • Bob Loblaw | December 2, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”364464″]http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1967/0814_large.jpg

    Okay – 1)the Saints need to revert to that old gold – such a sweet look… and b) Jim Taylor played fullback with a single bar on his helmet!![/quote]

    taylor started w/ the single bar as a Packer, some pictures show him changing that to a double bar later in his Packer career….for some reason thou: he’s got a single bar as an expansion Saint.

  • Skycat | December 3, 2009 at 12:05 am |

    Rockets wearing the new alternates tonite as they take on the Clips.
    http://thehoopdoctor...
    A bit too much mustard for my taste.