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So you’re a Winter Olympics “athlete.” You’ve spent years training for “sports” like curling, or ice dancing, or rhythmic biathlon, or whatever it is you specialize in, you’ve made sure to ingest only the fancy new designer steroids that the doping tests can’t detect, and you’ve even learned not to snicker when someone refers to “the Olympic movement.” So it’s perfectly understandable that you were a little peeved yesterday when some snot-nose kid and a balloon got more attention than you’ll ever get to discover that the medals you’re competing for — the medals you will surely win! — look like a bunch of heat-warped records.

Actually, I think they look pretty cool, but the best thing about them, clearly, is that they’ll probably piss off a lot of people because they look like factory rejects. You can learn a lot more about them in this article, and there are some truly wonderful interactive features available here, but here’s a quick primer:

• The warped surface — sorry, undulating surface, as the press notes repeatedly state — is an Olympic first and is the result of a year’s worth of work by the Royal Canadian Mint. I give it about a week before someone says we can’t have Canadian-style national health care “because those Canadians, their fucking mint can’t even make a flat medal, what a bunch of losers, FAIL!”

• Each individual medal will have a distinct abstract design etched into its surface. Each individual etched design is taken from one of two larger composite designs that depict a whale and a raven, so think of each medal as part of a jigsaw puzzle (okay, a warped jigsaw puzzle). Haven’t seen the full composite images yet, but I’m sure they’re floating around on one of those interactive pages.

• Everyone seems to be going to great pains to point out that the medals are “among the heaviest” in Olympic history. I find something a little sad about this. I mean, I could understand if they were saying they contain more metal, or a higher grade of metal, but “heaviest”? That’s like Spinal Tap being “one of England’s loudest bands.” Let’s try to retain a bit of dignity, shall we?

• As usual, the silver looks way better than the gold or bronze. Go for the silver!!

And so on. But really, can you imagine winning one of these and then having to explain to your great-aunt, “No, really, it’s supposed to be that way”? Too much bother. May as well just score some hash, scarf down whatever looks good at the buffet, and have a few trysts in the Olympic Village with those cute Scandinavians (unless you’re already Scandinavian, in which case you can go trolling for cute Asians). Am I right?

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Remember the orange sleeve debacle from a few years back? A little birdie tells me Nike has something similar planned for Nov. 14th, involving at least one school and probably more:

The uniform will be all-white with some kind of gradient checkerboard fade on the sleeves and pants. The helmet will be white with that checkerboard fade and the school logo. The gloves will have a [one part of the school’s logo] on the left-hand palm and [the other part of the logo] on the other hand, so when they’re combined they make the full logo.

Well, that sounds like a real boon for mankind. Let’s avoid the rush and start hating it now.

And speaking of warped records”¦: I’ve put another half-dozen or so old indie singles up for auction on eBay. All of them are flatter than those Olympic medals. Remember, every record I sell gets us closer to the day when I, uh, won’t have any records left to sell. So bid already!

Uni Watch News Ticker: Nice batch of vintage gumball helmets available here (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). ”¦ New uniforms for the U.S. lacrosse team (with thanks to Thomas Langan). ”¦ Oh man, pure gold here: an old Colt .45s mail order catalog. That’s from Mike Hersh, who also pointed me toward this 1913 Spalding catalog (too bad about all the missing swatches) and this amazing uni fabric catalog. ”¦ Very interesting NOB. That’s David Van Der Gulik from the AHL’s Abbotsford Heat, whose name has been rendered in a variety of styles during his stints with the Heat, the Calgary Flames, the Quad City Flames, and Boston University (great work by Teebz). ”¦ More white-at-home news, this time from Zachary Charles, who says he recalls the 49ers wearing white at home for preseason games when he was growing up. That appears to be confirmed in the following passage from this Wiki page: “From the 1980s until 2005, the 49ers nearly always wore their white uniforms at home for their two preseason home games (and thus usually wore white jerseys the whole preseason).” Yes, I know, it’s Wiki — a starting point, not the last word. But Zachary found this photo — note the baseball diamond, which indicates they were playing at Candlestick, unless it was from the two seasons that the Rockies played at Mile High. ”¦ As several readers have noted in recent weeks, Dwight Feeney’s shoulder stripes come to a point. Weird. ”¦ According to this item, Kentucky may soon get a Lebron-branded uniform and shoes (with thanks to Chris Edwards). ”¦ The Islanders will be wearing “spooky” practice jerseys for Halloween, which they’ll then auction off for charity (with thanks to John Muir). ”¦ Junior Seau got his old number back, as explained in the third graf of this page. ”¦ I used to play softball with this guy who’d briefly been a professional tennis player, and I remember how freaked out I was when he showed me how his racket arm was about two inches longer than his non-rack arm — creepy. But that’s nothing compared to this arm wrestler (pretty gross, Kirsten). ”¦ We had some discussion yesterday regarding whether this item is a baseball uni, a softball uni, a basketball warm-up, or what. The definitive word comes from, of course, sporting goods historian Terry Procter, who writes: “The top is actually a SandMark 13 basketball warm-up jacket made of a heavy-weight stretch nylon fabric . The top has a baseball-type neck and front placket, but it is a snap-front, not a button-front as most baseball shirts would be. And the lettering is all wrong for baseball. No front name or back numbers (back numbers are required for high school baseball). Yes, the pants are baseball pants. What I think happened is that the seller got the top and the pants from a source and assumed that they were from the same set of uniforms. Completely innocent assumption. Aren’t you glad you have me around to point out these things to you?” Indeed. ”¦ New Era is running a cap design contest, and Kevin Hayashi has already come up with a pre-inside-outed rally cap design. ”¦ According to the third-to-last graf of this story, WVU hoops will unveil a new alternate uni today (with thanks to Joshua Exline). ”¦ New hoops uniforms for Pitt. ”¦ Good article about a Canadian hockey logo designer here (as posted on the Creamer site by Chris Creamer himself). ”¦ Oooh, check out the Penguins’ championship ring design (with thanks to Matt Harris). ”¦ Matt Harris spotted a pair of white loafers behind Charlie Manuel last night. Was ol’ Charlie getting ready for a quick getaway? Nope — “It’s a tribute to the late Harry Kalas,” says Matt. “The shoes and (not pictured) blazer are in the dugout for all games.” ”¦ Shouldn’t this guy be playing baseball? (As noted by Jesse Strauss). ”¦ Remember Owen Schmitt’s little pregame mishap last Sunday? It has become the unlikely inspiration for this T-shirt (big thanks to Michael Princip). ”¦ Reprinted from last night’s comments: MLB is selling some T-shirts based on uni history. I’ll let the rest of you figure out if the jersey designs in the illos are accurate. My gripe is more nuanced: Was it really necessary to print “Jersey Evolution” (or the Majestic logo) underneath each illustration? Like, duh, we can SEE that the illo shows the evolution of the team’s jersey. I can’t tell if the Majestic people are idiots or if they think everyone else is an idiot, but it’s miserable design either way. … Traveling calls — or lack of calls — have been unofficial joke in the NBA for years. Now they’ll be an official joke. ”¦ If you scroll down past the Limbaugh commentary on this page (let’s please not discuss that today, thanks), you’ll find some coverage of the Blackhawks Ice Girls’ new uniforms (with thanks to Kasey Ignarski). … USF wore white helmets last night, and I think they looked really good. … Small road uni change for Wisconsin hockey, going from this to this (with thanks to Nate Neumann).

Oot and Aboot: I’m not going to be near a computer for most of today or tomorrow. So please take it easy on the Ticker submissions for the next 48 hours, so I don’t go into cardiac arrest the next time I log in for my e-mail. Thanks.

 
  
 
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    Mile High Stadium was home to minor league baseball from the late 40s through 1992. Per link, this pic comes from 1991.

    If the NCAA alt has a checkerboard design, does that mean it’s the Vols?

    [quote comment=”354589″]Mile High Stadium was home to minor league baseball from the late 40s through 1992. Per link, this pic comes from 1991.

    If the NCAA alt has a checkerboard design, does that mean it’s the Vols?[/quote]

    As soon as I read the checkerboard, that was the first team that popped into my head, and I sure can’t think of any other.

    [quote comment=”354589″]Mile High Stadium was home to minor league baseball from the late 40s through 1992. Per link, this pic comes from 1991.

    If the NCAA alt has a checkerboard design, does that mean it’s the Vols?[/quote]
    Also, the Rockies played at Mile High Stadium in ’93 & ’94.

    South Florida looked really good with the white helmets. Can’t say I much cared for the markings on Cincinnati’s pants, though.

    [quote comment=”354595″]FYI: One again we will be wearing our “road” blues this week in New Orleans…[/quote]

    Have the Saints simply designated their white jersey as the “home” uniform this season?

    [quote comment=”354595″]FYI: One again we will be wearing our “road” blues this week in New Orleans…[/quote]

    nice! road pants with that is a great look and a nice ‘tweak’ from the home…anyone planning on having you “paint” their shoes pink?

    Hey I am not a Blog or Column writer here, but I know that when you put out an opening paragraph for people to read, It might help to tell readers WTF you are talking about? You said in the opening paragraph you “are an olympia and so on trying to win a medal and then you win a warped record? WHAT Olympics are they for? 2980?

    haha first thing I thought of when I saw that German arm-wrestler was the scene from Idiocracy about the Masturbation Channel.

    The photo linked for the “49ers in white” evidence is probably at Mile High: the fans in the background are largely wearing orange and blue. It’s doubtful you’d see that at Candlestick during the Niners’ good years.

    [quote comment=”354589″]Mile High Stadium was home to minor league baseball from the late 40s through 1992. Per link, this pic comes from 1991.

    If the NCAA alt has a checkerboard design, does that mean it’s the Vols?[/quote]

    Nope…Kiffin’s boys are outfitted by Adidas.

    If Joe Skiba is still around, here’s a question for ye:

    Against KC, Eli and alot of the skill guys who usually wear Schutt Air Advantages switched to XP’s.

    Was there a specific reason why?

    And Jacobs keeps switching facemasks on his Ion…what gives?

    Why do I get the sinking feeling that it will be Miami…with one half of the “U” on one hand, and the other hand completing it…

    Was treated to some of this baby last night on FoxSportsSouth:
    100th between the Orange&Blue and the Maroon&Steel. Steel!

    Slide show if interested:
    link

    Re: Silly Olympic medals. If the powers-that-be have to work so hard to explain the medals’ meaning and how cool they are . . . then they aren’t.

    Many players converted into the XP’s/Ion’s/Revo Speeds at the start of the off season program and training camp…Sometimes Brandon and I will talk about switching the facemasks up for a different look, just to change it up…

    [quote comment=”354608″]Why do I get the sinking feeling that it will be Miami…with one half of the “U” on one hand, and the other hand completing it…[/quote]
    . . . each hand with an “L”. Good thing they aren’t a more academically advanced bunch or they’d try to wear both on the left hand. Or is the “L” for “Loser”?

    [quote comment=”354613″]Many players converted into the XP’s/Ion’s/Revo Speeds at the start of the off season program and training camp…Sometimes Brandon and I will talk about switching the facemasks up for a different look, just to change it up…[/quote]

    I’ve noticed that…
    Tuck has went from the Revo to the Speed and now the Ion as has Umenyiora.

    Joe, any chance for us Metropolitan area Uni-Watchers to have an equipment room field trip?

    While I’d give Kevin huge points for the idea, the rally cap is the second dumbest cap look in baseball. But it is light-years away from the worst, idiotic r*****ed stick it in “The Man’s”
    face that gangsta I really got this hat from my big bro flat brim upside down pot 5950 some of those morons affect. Hoss Cartwright laughs at those db mf-ers.

    Penguins Ring question….

    Is it common for a team to use the defeated team’s logo on the ring…and in this case, the logo of each team you defeated in the playoffs.

    Did they have to get special permission from each team to use their logo on the ring? Wonder how that conversation went.

    when they’re combined they make the full logo.

    It’s gotta be Oregon State. If their proximity to Nike wasn’t enough, can’t you picture splitting (er, dividing) that logo?

    [quote comment=”354617″]Penguins Ring question….

    Is it common for a team to use the defeated team’s logo on the ring…and in this case, the logo of each team you defeated in the playoffs.

    Did they have to get special permission from each team to use their logo on the ring? Wonder how that conversation went.[/quote]

    It’s not common, but having opposing team names on the rings has happened before. Since the NHL has a contract with the ring manufacturer, licensing would fall under the general NHL contract.

    [quote comment=”354592″]warped medals? really? well…if their health care plan is any model…[/quote]

    Are you complaining or complimenting us, Phil? Because I’m quite fond of our medical system. ;o)

    We all know that with Nike, simplicity isn’t the only factor governing what schools get the goods.

    link

    Remember the special team-custom gloves that the elite bowl teams were given last year?

    Perhaps this promotion is advertising for gloves to eventually be offered on NIKEID.com where anyone can customize gear.

    Beaverton is also using schools like Southern Miss this year as a test program, giving them prototype cleats and gloves:

    link

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    Paul and I are planing a nice little piece, hopefully it comes to fruition…on a side note I always wanted to film a little segment with Paul and the uniwatchers abour uni’s…

    [quote comment=”354614″][quote comment=”354608″]Why do I get the sinking feeling that it will be Miami…with one half of the “U” on one hand, and the other hand completing it…[/quote]
    . . . each hand with an “L”. Good thing they aren’t a more academically advanced bunch or they’d try to wear both on the left hand. Or is the “L” for “Loser”?[/quote]
    Wouldn’t two halves of a U be an L on one hand and J on the other?

    Miami was the first program I thought of for this half-and-half logo business as well. But now that I think about it, it’s GOTTA be Penn State…
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    I love this link.

    Re: gumball helmets
    Was looking for the steelers helmet to see if sticker was on correct size and noticed there was no steelers helmet. Upon further review, there are only 15 helmets pictured though the header says 17. Heads should roll!

    [quote comment=”354620″][quote comment=”354617″]Penguins Ring question….

    Is it common for a team to use the defeated team’s logo on the ring…and in this case, the logo of each team you defeated in the playoffs.

    Did they have to get special permission from each team to use their logo on the ring? Wonder how that conversation went.[/quote]

    It’s not common, but having opposing team names on the rings has happened before. Since the NHL has a contract with the ring manufacturer, licensing would fall under the general NHL contract.[/quote]

    So… pass or fail for just using “Caps” on the ring?

    “The uniform will be all-white with some kind of gradient checkerboard fade on the sleeves and pants. The helmet will be white with that checkerboard fade and the school logo. The gloves will have a [one part of the school’s logo] on the left-hand palm and [the other part of the logo] on the other hand, so when they’re combined they make the full logo.”

    I swear to god, the girls from the 7th grade Home Ec class are designing some of these unis as their sewing project. Even one of art directors where I work says, “These new football uniforms look like there were designed by a bunch of girls at a slumber party.” And she’s a woman.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”354628″][quote comment=”354620″][quote comment=”354617″]Penguins Ring question….

    Is it common for a team to use the defeated team’s logo on the ring…and in this case, the logo of each team you defeated in the playoffs.

    Did they have to get special permission from each team to use their logo on the ring? Wonder how that conversation went.[/quote]

    It’s not common, but having opposing team names on the rings has happened before. Since the NHL has a contract with the ring manufacturer, licensing would fall under the general NHL contract.[/quote]

    So… pass or fail for just using “Caps” on the ring?[/quote]

    Pass with an asterisk.

    There’s no love lost between those two teams, so I don’t see it as a sign of disrespect. I see it as more of a “limited space” problem. They did include the three stars from the Capitals logo, however, so I’d give it a pass*.

    Matt Harris spotted a pair of white loafers behind Charlie Manuel last night.

    Really disappointed it wasn’t John Kruk interviewing Mitch williams.

    [quote comment=”354625″]Paul and I are planing a nice little piece, hopefully it comes to fruition…on a side note I always wanted to film a little segment with Paul and the uniwatchers abour uni’s…[/quote]

    Some us have been pestering Paul to set up a get together with you… I, for one, would be like a kid in a candy shop, if I was to visit your place of work.

    The funny part is that I’d be more stoked to see the helmets and cleats as opposed to Eli and Steve Smith.

    [quote comment=”354597″][quote comment=”354595″]FYI: One again we will be wearing our “road” blues this week in New Orleans…[/quote]

    Have the Saints simply designated their white jersey as the “home” uniform this season?[/quote]
    Really not a big fan of this. We play in a dome, there’s no actual reasoning behind wearing the white at home. I much prefer the black.

    Interesting note that many local fans have called the local AM sports talk station in New Orleans complaining that they have no idea what jersey the team will be wearing on any given gameday. A lot of them want to match up their attire with the team’s choice of jersey.

    [quote comment=”354621″][quote comment=”354592″]warped medals? really? well…if their health care plan is any model…[/quote]

    Are you complaining or complimenting us, Phil? Because I’m quite fond of our medical system. ;o)[/quote]

    those canadians, their fucking mint can’t even make a flat medal, what a bunch of losers, FAIL!

    [quote comment=”354635″][quote comment=”354621″][quote comment=”354592″]warped medals? really? well…if their health care plan is any model…[/quote]

    Are you complaining or complimenting us, Phil? Because I’m quite fond of our medical system. ;o)[/quote]

    those canadians, their fucking mint can’t even make a flat medal, what a bunch of losers, FAIL![/quote]

    But we can win an Olympic bid without sending our Prime Minister to sway impress the judges. LOL

    [quote comment=”354636″][quote comment=”354635″][quote comment=”354621″][quote comment=”354592″]warped medals? really? well…if their health care plan is any model…[/quote]

    Are you complaining or complimenting us, Phil? Because I’m quite fond of our medical system. ;o)[/quote]

    those canadians, their fucking mint can’t even make a flat medal, what a bunch of losers, FAIL![/quote]

    But we can win an Olympic bid without sending our Prime Minister to sway impress the judges. LOL[/quote]

    Damned strikethru! Why does the HTML code have to be different? Canadian using strikethru = FAIL! ;o)

    [quote comment=”354591″][quote comment=”354589″]Mile High Stadium was home to minor league baseball from the late 40s through 1992. Per link, this pic comes from 1991.

    If the NCAA alt has a checkerboard design, does that mean it’s the Vols?[/quote]

    As soon as I read the checkerboard, that was the first team that popped into my head, and I sure can’t think of any other.[/quote]
    If I’m reading Paul’s clip about this correctly, it means that this is Nike’s doing. Meaning it won’t be Tennessee because they’re an Adidas link.

    [quote comment=”354634″]pitt’s new basketball unis:

    on the shorts, it looks like pitt ditched this:

    link

    to go back to this:

    link

    personally, i like that move[/quote]
    Ummm… are those supposed to be panthers? They look more like dogs — pit bulls, specifically (Pitt bulls?)

    [quote comment=”354637″][quote comment=”354636″][quote comment=”354635″][quote comment=”354621″][quote comment=”354592″]warped medals? really? well…if their health care plan is any model…[/quote]

    Are you complaining or complimenting us, Phil? Because I’m quite fond of our medical system. ;o)[/quote]

    those canadians, their fucking mint can’t even make a flat medal, what a bunch of losers, FAIL![/quote]

    But we can win an Olympic bid without sending our Prime Minister to sway impress the judges. LOL[/quote]

    Damned strikethru! Why does the HTML code have to be different? Canadian using strikethru = FAIL! ;o)[/quote]
    The PM didn’t bother going? Is that because there weren’t any other countries bidding?

    A lot of them want to match up their attire with the team’s choice of jersey.

    ….and it’s considered tacky to wear white after Labor Day.

    [quote comment=”354618″]My favorite helmet and facemask style seen on the Giants within the past few years…the Schutt DNA with the moto-cross styled Bulldog facemask:

    link

    I absolutely agree! That is very cool.

    Thanks for that link to the Colt .45’s auction! Damn, it would be awesome to order some of those items!!!

    I think the medals look pretty nice. Simple design combined with a new approach to the shape. Nothing wrong with that.

    [quote comment=”354642″][quote comment=”354618″]My favorite helmet and facemask style seen on the Giants within the past few years…the Schutt DNA with the moto-cross styled Bulldog facemask:

    link

    I absolutely agree! That is very cool.[/quote]

    The Schutt Air XP Darth Vader edition comes in at a very close second:

    link

    When I was growing up, it was Rickey Jackson’s cage:
    link

    We call our dollars “Loonies”, do you expect greatness? LOL. Also, we don’t really have “national health care”, it’s by Province. After our hockey teams (men and women) win the gold, then Canada will worry about the shape of the medals.

    The Islanders will be wearing “spooky” practice jerseys for Halloween…

    If they really want to scare their fans, they should just bring back link.

    I remember hearing the 49ers wore white at home so they only had to make 1 set of jersey’s for the expanded roster.

    [quote comment=”354647″]The Islanders will be wearing “spooky” practice jerseys for Halloween…

    If they really want to scare their fans, they should just bring back link.[/quote]

    I’d buy season tickets just to see those jerseys. And my commute to Long Island would be a little more than 48 hours each time. LOL

    Those jerseys are still incredibly awesome.

    OT: Paul, don’t get me wrong, I like the “Meats” shirt. Its clever and cool. But, like many things that people talk about – its getting old. We know you have it, and we know you like it. Nuff said.

    I like the surface design of the medals – I think the artwork is quite striking, and the “no two medals alike” is an interesting touch.

    I don’t get the wavy design – that just seems like pointless “look what we can do”, or the need to be the biggest medal ever.

    My 2c on the thinking behind these medals – the Canadian mint is an official sponsor of the games and has the contract to make the medals. The Mint has evolved in the last few years into a giant business. They make circulation coins for Canada (obviously) but they also make coins for a number of other countries, and they make collector coins for Canada and a number of other countries. They’ve been very innovative in new technologies for coins such as insets, colours and frosting, and they’ve done square coins and holograms as well.

    So my guess is that they’re using their role as sponsor to demonstrate the innovative things they can do (no two alike, waves) to drum up business.

    Where am I going with this – they’re no different than uniform manufacturers forcing “innovation” on college and pro teams to show off what they can do, in order to boost their profile and show off their capabilities.

    But on your other question, can you imagine explaining the medal to your grandparents, I can tell you you’re wrong. A lot of olympians train here in Calgary and I get the opportunity to work out with some of them and you’ve never met a more driven bunch in your life. They don’t care about the design or aesthetics of the medals, or much else, they care about winning, and I guarantee that for anyone who wins one, it will forever be their most valuable possession.

    [quote comment=”354651″]I like the surface design of the medals – I think the artwork is quite striking, and the “no two medals alike” is an interesting touch.

    I don’t get the wavy design – that just seems like pointless “look what we can do”, or the need to be the biggest medal ever.

    My 2c on the thinking behind these medals – the Canadian mint is an official sponsor of the games and has the contract to make the medals. The Mint has evolved in the last few years into a giant business. They make circulation coins for Canada (obviously) but they also make coins for a number of other countries, and they make collector coins for Canada and a number of other countries. They’ve been very innovative in new technologies for coins such as insets, colours and frosting, and they’ve done square coins and holograms as well.

    So my guess is that they’re using their role as sponsor to demonstrate the innovative things they can do (no two alike, waves) to drum up business.

    Where am I going with this – they’re no different than uniform manufacturers forcing “innovation” on college and pro teams to show off what they can do, in order to boost their profile and show off their capabilities.[/quote]

    Every medal creator has made their medals different than the previous games, though.

    I see nothing wrong with bringing innovation and a new design to something that changes every two or four years anyway.

    [quote comment=”354651″]I like the surface design of the medals – I think the artwork is quite striking, and the “no two medals alike” is an interesting touch.

    I don’t get the wavy design – that just seems like pointless “look what we can do”, or the need to be the biggest medal ever.

    My 2c on the thinking behind these medals – the Canadian mint is an official sponsor of the games and has the contract to make the medals. The Mint has evolved in the last few years into a giant business. They make circulation coins for Canada (obviously) but they also make coins for a number of other countries, and they make collector coins for Canada and a number of other countries. They’ve been very innovative in new technologies for coins such as insets, colours and frosting, and they’ve done square coins and holograms as well.

    So my guess is that they’re using their role as sponsor to demonstrate the innovative things they can do (no two alike, waves) to drum up business.

    Where am I going with this – they’re no different than uniform manufacturers forcing “innovation” on college and pro teams to show off what they can do, in order to boost their profile and show off their capabilities.[/quote]

    They are wavy to give the appearance of water.

    The winter olympics have a recent tradition of thinking outside the box when it comes to medal design. Hell, the 2006 medal had a freaking hole in it. I have no problem with the 2010 design.

    Looks like something of a “weather weekend” coming up.

    Cold and rainy for Angels-Yankees tonight.
    Gophers may run into snow and rain in Happy Valley tomorrow.

    Anyone else got any possible snow games…or just bad weather games…”in your neck of the woods” this weekend? Especially games that might be on national tube.

    How’s weather looking for Texas-Oklahoma, for example.

    Someone mentioned college games just seeming to look better once it gets cold.
    Well, is part of it maybe…
    1. It patches in stereotypical image of football?
    2. For us at UW, we notice things like more teams going to full socks (even if all black or all white), and that gives things a more “finished” look?

    Anyway…back to shitty weather…

    —Ricko

    I have no particular issue with the design either, and I’m certainly not arguing against innovation in design.

    My favourite medals of all time are still from Albertville – with crystal embedded in them.

    link

    I’m just putting a theory out there. These medals feel to me like an ad for the Mint.

    [quote comment=”354655″]Looks like something of a “weather weekend” coming up.

    Cold and rainy for Angels-Yankees tonight.
    Gophers may run into snow and rain in Happy Valley tomorrow.

    Anyone else got any possible snow games…or just bad weather games…”in your neck of the woods” this weekend? Especially games that might be on national tube.

    How’s weather looking for Texas-Oklahoma, for example.

    Someone mentioned college games just seeming to look better once it gets cold.
    Well, is part of it maybe…
    1. It patches in stereotypical image of football?
    2. For us at UW, we notice things like more teams going to full socks (even if all black or all white), and that gives things a more “finished” look?

    Anyway…back to shitty weather…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Yeah, I might have two…I have a 4:30 JV game and a 7PM Varsity game tonight.

    I’ll be breaking out the Nike Pro tonight:

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    I will also wear actual cleats on the field to help with traction…i got these in the mail yesterday:

    link
    I’m scheduled for baseball games tomorrow and Sunday, but I doubt that those are happening.

    I like the idea of altering the medals for every games. It must make the collections more interesting for the folks who win multiple medals at different Olympics. Not that they would care that much, but why not.
    Has anyone else been on the Canadian Mint tour in Ottawa? They go on and on about how innovative and cutting edge they are, this is hardly a surprise. It’s actually very impressive what they can do with coins.

    On another Olympic note, I saw one of the new Hockey Canada sweaters in a store the other day. I didn’t like the old logo very much, but I’m not sold on the new one either.

    [quote comment=”354656″]I have no particular issue with the design either, and I’m certainly not arguing against innovation in design.

    My favourite medals of all time are still from Albertville – with crystal embedded in them.

    link

    I’m just putting a theory out there. These medals feel to me like an ad for the Mint.[/quote]

    Every single thing that the athletes will be wearing is an ad for HBC, though. The previous Olympics was as well.

    If there’s anything that the Olympics is, “unsellable” it is not.

    I assume everyone’s seen those “Huggies” or whatever they’re called, right?

    Now, was I hallucinating or did I actually see NFL team versions being hawked on QVC or HSN or something in the last week or so?

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”354623″]We all know that with Nike, simplicity isn’t the only factor governing what schools get the goods.

    link

    Remember the special team-custom gloves that the elite bowl teams were given last year?

    Perhaps this promotion is advertising for gloves to eventually be offered on NIKEID.com where anyone can customize gear.

    Beaverton is also using schools like Southern Miss this year as a test program, giving them prototype cleats and gloves:

    link

    link

    link

    The irony of nicknaming Nike “Beaverton” is that the relationship between the company and the city is very strained. Nike’s HQs are an island in the city of Beaverton, but they successfully fought the attempt to have their property annexed into the city because they didn’t want to pay higher taxes. It would have taken over 30 years for the increased taxes to match what Nike spent in legal fees, and Nike won because its corporate value gave it deeper pockets than the city of Beaverton.

    The majority (including myself) of us complain about Nike’s designs, marketing, etc. This little nugget shows what a**holes they really are.

    [quote comment=”354661″]I assume everyone’s seen those “Huggies” or whatever they’re called, right?

    Now, was I hallucinating or did I actually see NFL team versions being hawked on QVC or HSN or something in the last week or so?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sorry, it “Snuggies” and they’ve been knocked off in NCAA and NFL logo versions called “The Huddler”.

    And I didn’t know.
    I so ashamed.
    (slouches, tries to touch chin to chest)

    I shoulda googled it first, huh.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”354662″][quote comment=”354623″]We all know that with Nike, simplicity isn’t the only factor governing what schools get the goods.

    link

    Remember the special team-custom gloves that the elite bowl teams were given last year?

    Perhaps this promotion is advertising for gloves to eventually be offered on NIKEID.com where anyone can customize gear.

    Beaverton is also using schools like Southern Miss this year as a test program, giving them prototype cleats and gloves:

    link

    link

    link

    The irony of nicknaming Nike “Beaverton” is that the relationship between the company and the city is very strained. Nike’s HQs are an island in the city of Beaverton, but they successfully fought the attempt to have their property annexed into the city because they didn’t want to pay higher taxes. It would have taken over 30 years for the increased taxes to match what Nike spent in legal fees, and Nike won because its corporate value gave it deeper pockets than the city of Beaverton.

    The majority (including myself) of us complain about Nike’s designs, marketing, etc. This little nugget shows what a**holes they really are.[/quote]

    Somebody rewrite this as “Beaverton Mountain”.
    Please?
    link

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”354663″][quote comment=”354661″]I assume everyone’s seen those “Huggies” or whatever they’re called, right?

    Now, was I hallucinating or did I actually see NFL team versions being hawked on QVC or HSN or something in the last week or so?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sorry, it “Snuggies” and they’ve been knocked off in NCAA and NFL logo versions called “The Huddler”.

    And I didn’t know.
    I so ashamed.
    (slouches, tries to touch chin to chest)

    I shoulda googled it first, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    So we could see an ad with this headline?
    “Give Someone You Love A Giant Snuggie.”

    I think the medals are great. Not only are they innovative in design they are innovative in their use of recycled/reclaimed metals from used electronics which for some reason is not mentioned anywhere.

    About the health care comment, you can keep your “warped” American health care. We in Canada are happy that the least among us still has the same access to health care as the richest. It boggles my mind how middle-class Americans are willing to pay through the nose for their mediocre HMOs so that the elite few can enjoy deluxe health care.

    We are not dying in the emergency rooms waiting for care as Rush Limbaugh and company would like you to believe. We do have health care for people who have diseases from birth and for people who are old and sick — no one is denied. Being denied health care is what is warped.

    Oh yes, we do pay taxes to pay for this. But so do you. The only difference is that you don’t pay the government you pay those caring wonderful people at Blue Cross Blue Shield, Aetna, CIGNA and how can I forget the most caring company of all, AIG.

    [quote comment=”354666″]I think the medals are great. Not only are they innovative in design they are innovative in their use of recycled/reclaimed metals from used electronics which for some reason is not mentioned anywhere.

    About the health care comment, you can keep your “warped” American health care. We in Canada are happy that the least among us still has the same access to health care as the richest. It boggles my mind how middle-class Americans are willing to pay through the nose for their mediocre HMOs so that the elite few can enjoy deluxe health care.

    We are not dying in the emergency rooms waiting for care as Rush Limbaugh and company would like you to believe. We do have health care for people who have diseases from birth and for people who are old and sick — no one is denied. Being denied health care is what is warped.

    Oh yes, we do pay taxes to pay for this. But so do you. The only difference is that you don’t pay the government you pay those caring wonderful people at Blue Cross Blue Shield, Aetna, CIGNA and how can I forget the most caring company of all, AIG.[/quote]

    Yeah, was gonna ask…
    “Are there dead Canadians being stacked in cords like firewood, and we just aren’t being told about here in the U.S.? Cuz between the lousy health care system and the second-rate, cheaper, brand-name prescription drugs available up there, you’d expect them to be dying like flies.”

    [quote comment=”354667″][quote comment=”354666″]I think the medals are great. Not only are they innovative in design they are innovative in their use of recycled/reclaimed metals from used electronics which for some reason is not mentioned anywhere.

    About the health care comment, you can keep your “warped” American health care. We in Canada are happy that the least among us still has the same access to health care as the richest. It boggles my mind how middle-class Americans are willing to pay through the nose for their mediocre HMOs so that the elite few can enjoy deluxe health care.

    We are not dying in the emergency rooms waiting for care as Rush Limbaugh and company would like you to believe. We do have health care for people who have diseases from birth and for people who are old and sick — no one is denied. Being denied health care is what is warped.

    Oh yes, we do pay taxes to pay for this. But so do you. The only difference is that you don’t pay the government you pay those caring wonderful people at Blue Cross Blue Shield, Aetna, CIGNA and how can I forget the most caring company of all, AIG.[/quote]

    Yeah, was gonna ask…
    “Are there dead Canadians being stacked in cords like firewood, and we just aren’t being told about here in the U.S.? Cuz between the lousy health care system and the second-rate, cheaper, brand-name prescription drugs available up there, you’d expect them to be dying like flies.”[/quote]
    Don’t forget if Nixon had his way, all Americans would have health care.

    RE: The 49ers/Broncos shot. There seem to be an awful lot of fans wearing what looks to be orange and blue in the background.

    Yeah, maybe its red and the color is off… but it sure looks like orange to me.

    [quote comment=”354666″]I think the medals are great. Not only are they innovative in design they are innovative in their use of recycled/reclaimed metals from used electronics which for some reason is not mentioned anywhere.

    About the health care comment, you can keep your “warped” American health care. We in Canada are happy that the least among us still has the same access to health care as the richest. It boggles my mind how middle-class Americans are willing to pay through the nose for their mediocre HMOs so that the elite few can enjoy deluxe health care.

    We are not dying in the emergency rooms waiting for care as Rush Limbaugh and company would like you to believe. We do have health care for people who have diseases from birth and for people who are old and sick — no one is denied. Being denied health care is what is warped.

    Oh yes, we do pay taxes to pay for this. But so do you. The only difference is that you don’t pay the government you pay those caring wonderful people at Blue Cross Blue Shield, Aetna, CIGNA and how can I forget the most caring company of all, AIG.[/quote]

    Yeah, but you’re still Canadian. Canadian!

    /yeah, I have nothing.

    I don’t understand those people either. If I didn’t have to live here I’d almost think it was funny… but instead it’s just sad.

    [quote comment=”354666″]I think the medals are great. Not only are they innovative in design they are innovative in their use of recycled/reclaimed metals from used electronics which for some reason is not mentioned anywhere.

    About the health care comment, you can keep your “warped” American health care. We in Canada are happy that the least among us still has the same access to health care as the richest. It boggles my mind how middle-class Americans are willing to pay through the nose for their mediocre HMOs so that the elite few can enjoy deluxe health care.

    We are not dying in the emergency rooms waiting for care as Rush Limbaugh and company would like you to believe. We do have health care for people who have diseases from birth and for people who are old and sick — no one is denied. Being denied health care is what is warped.

    Oh yes, we do pay taxes to pay for this. But so do you. The only difference is that you don’t pay the government you pay those caring wonderful people at Blue Cross Blue Shield, Aetna, CIGNA and how can I forget the most caring company of all, AIG.[/quote]

    As Canadian as I am, it’s also apparent that Paul is a socialist/communist. Therefore, he supports the free health care idea. Phil is turning to the Dark Side/Red Curtain as well.

    People, both were being sarcastic. Read it with a smile.

    Don’t forget if Nixon had his way, all Americans would have health care.

    And would really need it.

    [quote comment=”354673″]Ladies and Gentlemen for your viewing displeasure, link.[/quote]

    Or, for the same price, you can buy a sweatshirt and not look like a fool.

    I can’t believe those things sell.

    [quote comment=”354663″][quote comment=”354661″]I assume everyone’s seen those “Huggies” or whatever they’re called, right?

    Now, was I hallucinating or did I actually see NFL team versions being hawked on QVC or HSN or something in the last week or so?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sorry, it “Snuggies” and they’ve been knocked off in NCAA and NFL logo versions called “The Huddler”.

    And I didn’t know.
    I so ashamed.
    (slouches, tries to touch chin to chest)

    I shoulda googled it first, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    My wife just bought a leopard print snuggie!

    Those MLB evolution t-shirts are extremely lame. The White Sox T doesn’t even include their late 70’s pajama tops. Weak!

    My wife just bought a leopard print snuggie!

    …..I, I just can’t do it.
    (Drops bat and leaves cage).

    [quote comment=”354675″][quote comment=”354673″]Ladies and Gentlemen for your viewing displeasure, link.[/quote]

    Or, for the same price, you can buy a sweatshirt and not look like a fool.

    I can’t believe those things sell.[/quote]

    And, you can hit “Play Video” and see many of them.
    Look for your favorite team and order. Hurry. Act now.

    [quote comment=”354678″]My wife just bought a leopard print snuggie!

    …..I, I just can’t do it.
    (Drops bat and leaves cage).[/quote]

    Kinda explains why if Powers has a son
    he wants to name him, “Boy”, doesn’t it.

    [quote comment=”354648″]I remember hearing the 49ers wore white at home so they only had to make 1 set of jersey’s for the expanded roster.[/quote]

    I also remember hearing this explanation in the early 80’s. There is an NFL films segment featuring Steve Young from ’96 or ’97 and it is a preseason game vs. Jacksonville at Candlestick and the 49ers are in their whites.

    [quote comment=”354655″]Looks like something of a “weather weekend” coming up.

    Cold and rainy for Angels-Yankees tonight.
    Gophers may run into snow and rain in Happy Valley tomorrow.

    Anyone else got any possible snow games…or just bad weather games…”in your neck of the woods” this weekend? Especially games that might be on national tube.

    How’s weather looking for Texas-Oklahoma, for example.

    Someone mentioned college games just seeming to look better once it gets cold.
    Well, is part of it maybe…
    1. It patches in stereotypical image of football?
    2. For us at UW, we notice things like more teams going to full socks (even if all black or all white), and that gives things a more “finished” look?

    Anyway…back to shitty weather…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I agree that football looks better in cold rainy or snowy weather. Even on just a cloudy day, the uni colors seem to pop out more when they’re not competing with the sunlight. That’s why I’d love to see the Seahawks’ neon green again.

    Even though I’m not a big fan of black unis, they look great in the snow.

    [quote comment=”354676″][quote comment=”354663″][quote comment=”354661″]I assume everyone’s seen those “Huggies” or whatever they’re called, right?

    Now, was I hallucinating or did I actually see NFL team versions being hawked on QVC or HSN or something in the last week or so?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sorry, it “Snuggies” and they’ve been knocked off in NCAA and NFL logo versions called “The Huddler”.

    And I didn’t know.
    I so ashamed.
    (slouches, tries to touch chin to chest)

    I shoulda googled it first, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    My wife just bought a leopard print snuggie![/quote]
    awaiting an inappropriate comment from Phil in 3…2…1…

    [quote comment=”354677″]Those MLB evolution t-shirts are extremely lame. The White Sox T doesn’t even include their late 70’s pajama tops. Weak![/quote]
    Plus, ONLY FOUR jerseys — the same as the Yankees? Puh-leeze.

    [quote comment=”354683″][quote comment=”354676″][quote comment=”354663″][quote comment=”354661″]I assume everyone’s seen those “Huggies” or whatever they’re called, right?

    Now, was I hallucinating or did I actually see NFL team versions being hawked on QVC or HSN or something in the last week or so?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Sorry, it “Snuggies” and they’ve been knocked off in NCAA and NFL logo versions called “The Huddler”.

    And I didn’t know.
    I so ashamed.
    (slouches, tries to touch chin to chest)

    I shoulda googled it first, huh.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    My wife just bought a leopard print snuggie![/quote]
    awaiting an inappropriate comment from Phil in 3…2…1…[/quote]

    I’ll just stick to the marketing aspects and say…

    “Wow! Kinda like having Zubaz AND a Snuggie
    ALL IN ONE AMAZING PRODUCT!
    Don’t wait! Get yours TODAY!!!”

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”354660″]USF looked really good, but those UA jerseys are still pretty annoying.[/quote]
    I love the change of the uni number font to Serpentine to match the USF Bulls wordmark, but I cant say that I love the bull horns coming out of the neck line. I wish they would either wear the white helmets with some gold pants or at least wear the white pants with the green jerseys more often. Also, a change from a black U on the helmet to green would be great.

    [quote comment=”354686″]http://www.taylorgifts.com/images/products/P36762B.jpg

    Morons…[/quote]

    cute wife; do the drapes match the snuggy?

    [quote comment=”354688″]Anyone know if the Irish will bring out the green jerseys tomorrow?[/quote]
    Good thinking Jim, I hope they do. How sweet would it be for the Trojans to be in their cardinal and the Irish in green for a nice color-on-color afternoon?

    [quote comment=”354689″][quote comment=”354686″]http://www.taylorgifts.com/images/products/P36762B.jpg

    Morons…[/quote]

    cute wife; do the drapes match the snuggy?[/quote]

    the drapes are visible on the snuggie model, who is not Mrs. MPowers1634

    [quote comment=”354690″][quote comment=”354688″]Anyone know if the Irish will bring out the green jerseys tomorrow?[/quote]
    Good thinking Jim, I hope they do. How sweet would it be for the Trojans to be in their cardinal and the Irish in green for a nice color-on-color afternoon?[/quote]

    To have that matchup as well as the Giants in red on Sunday, would have made me very happy…

    link

    [quote comment=”354673″]Ladies and Gentlemen for your viewing displeasure, link.[/quote]

    Emailed the link to the wife, look at this crap says I, and she says Perfect! Apparently she might want one..

    /ugh

    The Times has link today – somebody’s claiming that his deceased artist uncle, and not Lon Keller, created the Yankees “Bat in Hat” logo.

    Whatever we think of his claim, there’s an even more interesting story buried in the bottom of the article:

    [quote]The Keller family, meanwhile, also knows something about lost credit. Jay Keller, 70, retired computer sales executive now living in DeLand, Fla., said that his father also helped design the original New York Mets logo – a baseball encircling a bridge connecting a skyline of the city’s five boroughs – but never received credit. On Thursday, a Mets spokesman said the logo probably had its roots in a design contest held among fans but there was uncertainty as to who exactly designed it.

    “Maybe it s gone by the wayside,” Jay Keller said. “My dad doesn’t need it on his résumé anymore.”[/quote]

    The Mets don’t know who created their logo? link – they’ve credited it to cartoonist Ray Gatto for years.

    [quote comment=”354645″][quote comment=”354642″][quote comment=”354618″]My favorite helmet and facemask style seen on the Giants within the past few years…the Schutt DNA with the moto-cross styled Bulldog facemask:

    link

    I absolutely agree! That is very cool.[/quote]

    The Schutt Air XP Darth Vader edition comes in at a very close second:

    link

    When I was growing up, it was Rickey Jackson’s cage:
    link

    Are there any NFL players currently wearing that Vader Schutt mask? I know LT wore it for some pre-season games, yet, switched back to another Schutt mask at the beginning of last season.

    [quote comment=”354692″][quote comment=”354690″][quote comment=”354688″]Anyone know if the Irish will bring out the green jerseys tomorrow?[/quote]
    Good thinking Jim, I hope they do. How sweet would it be for the Trojans to be in their cardinal and the Irish in green for a nice color-on-color afternoon?[/quote]

    To have that matchup as well as the Giants in red on Sunday, would have made me very happy…

    link

    matt

    g-men ditched the red two years ago

    they will have a throwback (not at liberty to disclose what it is) later this season

    Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t this orange sleeve thing limited to just the schools whose colors included orange? That’s a small pool.

    link

    By the way, I think this is the closest Florida has come to wearing orange jerseys since 1989.

    [quote comment=”354697″][quote comment=”354645″][quote comment=”354642″][quote comment=”354618″]My favorite helmet and facemask style seen on the Giants within the past few years…the Schutt DNA with the moto-cross styled Bulldog facemask:

    link

    I absolutely agree! That is very cool.[/quote]

    The Schutt Air XP Darth Vader edition comes in at a very close second:

    link

    When I was growing up, it was Rickey Jackson’s cage:
    link

    Are there any NFL players currently wearing that Vader Schutt mask? I know LT wore it for some pre-season games, yet, switched back to another Schutt mask at the beginning of last season.[/quote]

    Ladainian was the only player that I have EVER known to wear that mask…he even wore three versions of it:

    1.

    link

    2.

    link

    3.

    link

    It always reminded me more of Predator than Darth Vader!

    [quote comment=”354670″]RE: The 49ers/Broncos shot. There seem to be an awful lot of fans wearing what looks to be orange and blue in the background.

    Yeah, maybe its red and the color is off… but it sure looks like orange to me.[/quote]

    It is orange, but it is Candlestick Park. Did and still does have orange seats.

    [quote comment=\”354645\”]
    When I was growing up, it was Rickey Jackson\’s cage:
    link

    Seeing that reminds me how much I miss the Saints \’map-of-Louisiana\’ sleeve patch… Great secondary logo… I\’m surprised it wasn\’t brought back post-Katrina…

    [quote comment=”354688″]Anyone know if the Irish will bring out the green jerseys tomorrow?[/quote]

    According to Charlie they will “not break out the green jerseys”

    There is a movement to have a “Green Out” at the stadium, however.

    Ignoring the Huddler for a moment, I think you could make a fortune by selling NFL Huggies. (They’re disposable diapers right?) Just print the logo of a team on the inside. Sell Vikings in Green Bay. Steelers in Cleveland. etc.

    Finally, Dallas could once again be America’s Team, at least in sales.

    That NBA traveling article is so wrong. Don’t trust anyone in the media to ever know anything about the rules of any sport. Last year in the NBA players were not allowed “one step”. Every rule code (NCAA, NFHS, FIBA) gives no limit to the number of steps. The NBA did not in the past either. I have not read the actual wording of the new rule but I doubt it says anything about 2 steps.

    Basically traveling is easy. If a player lifts his pivot foot he must pass, shoot, or request a timeout before the pivot foot returns to the floor. Lifting the pivot foot and returning it to the floor is traveling. If the player wants to start a dribble he must do so before the pivot foot is lifted from the ground. Lifting the pivot foot then starting a dribble is traveling. That is all that matters (for standing players).

    [quote comment=”354633″][quote comment=”354597″][quote comment=”354595″]FYI: One again we will be wearing our “road” blues this week in New Orleans…[/quote]

    Have the Saints simply designated their white jersey as the “home” uniform this season?[/quote]
    Really not a big fan of this. We play in a dome, there’s no actual reasoning behind wearing the white at home. I much prefer the black.

    Interesting note that many local fans have called the local AM sports talk station in New Orleans complaining that they have no idea what jersey the team will be wearing on any given gameday. A lot of them want to match up their attire with the team’s choice of jersey.[/quote]

    I think I remember Paul saying something to the effect that Sean Payton prefers the white jerseys.

    Anything is preferable to the black jersey/black pants combo. I don’t like that look at all.

    [quote comment=”354698″][quote comment=”354692″][quote comment=”354690″][quote comment=”354688″]Anyone know if the Irish will bring out the green jerseys tomorrow?[/quote]
    Good thinking Jim, I hope they do. How sweet would it be for the Trojans to be in their cardinal and the Irish in green for a nice color-on-color afternoon?[/quote]

    To have that matchup as well as the Giants in red on Sunday, would have made me very happy…

    link

    matt

    g-men ditched the red two years ago

    they will have a throwback (not at liberty to disclose what it is) later this season[/quote]

    Give us a hint…

    I showed my mom the photo of the new medals for the Winter Olympics and she thought they looked like breast implants.

    [quote comment=\”354707\”][quote comment=\”354633\”][quote comment=\”354597\”][quote comment=\”354595\”]FYI: One again we will be wearing our \”road\” blues this week in New Orleans…[/quote]

    Have the Saints simply designated their white jersey as the \”home\” uniform this season?[/quote]
    Really not a big fan of this. We play in a dome, there\’s no actual reasoning behind wearing the white at home. I much prefer the black.

    Interesting note that many local fans have called the local AM sports talk station in New Orleans complaining that they have no idea what jersey the team will be wearing on any given gameday. A lot of them want to match up their attire with the team\’s choice of jersey.[/quote]

    I think I remember Paul saying something to the effect that Sean Payton prefers the white jerseys.

    Anything is preferable to the black jersey/black pants combo. I don\’t like that look at all.[/quote]

    Here HERE!! I hope we NEVER see that again.

    I do think Sean likes the white jerseys better. It seems like they win more often in white!

    WHO DAT!!! (sorry Giants fans, gotta pull against you for one week)

    i just got off the phone with melodee from tck, and not only are they working one 45s etc batch as i type, but good news on the football hose, we are a goes! the revolution is ever expanding! grab your hose! grab your hose! and for the first time since i sang to jim mothervilker, aways we goes…

    when criminals in this world appear
    and break the laws that they should fear
    and frighten all who see or hear
    the cry goes up both far and near
    for properhose-properhose! properhose-properhose!

    speed of lightning, roar of thunder
    fighting all with uni-sense asunder
    properhose. properhose!

    when in this world the headlines read
    of those whose hearts are filled with greed
    who rob and steal from those who need
    to right this wrong with blinding speed
    goes properhose-properhose! properhose-properhose!

    speed of lightning, roar of thunder
    fighting all with uni-sense asunder
    properhose. properhose!

    sorry, i got excited there, you can get back to today’s topics…

    [quote comment=”354707″][quote comment=”354633″][quote comment=”354597″][quote comment=”354595″]FYI: One again we will be wearing our “road” blues this week in New Orleans…[/quote]

    Have the Saints simply designated their white jersey as the “home” uniform this season?[/quote]
    Really not a big fan of this. We play in a dome, there’s no actual reasoning behind wearing the white at home. I much prefer the black.

    Interesting note that many local fans have called the local AM sports talk station in New Orleans complaining that they have no idea what jersey the team will be wearing on any given gameday. A lot of them want to match up their attire with the team’s choice of jersey.[/quote]

    I think I remember Paul saying something to the effect that Sean Payton prefers the white jerseys.

    Anything is preferable to the black jersey/black pants combo. I don’t like that look at all.[/quote]

    I like the Saints Black jerseys better than the White jerseys, but I am more than willing to accept White jerseys at home in exchange for the Saints not wearing the Black leotard pants at all – which to date they have not worn this tear.
    Thankfully and Hopefully forever.

    I think a good, league-wide policy would be that ALL TEAMS wear White at home, allowing fans to see the visiting teams colors in their dark jerseys, except for DIVISIONAL GAMES, where home teams would then wear Dark Jerseys at home.

    Why DIVISION GAMES, because EVERY YEAR we play those teams home-and-home, and we are already familiar with their colors and these rivals’ dark jerseys.

    THAT WAY, FANS SEE THE MOST VARIETY, AND HOME FANS STILL GET 3-4 TIMES PER YEAR TO SEE THEIR HOME TEAM’S IN DARK JERSEYS …..

    [quote comment=”354713″]i just got off the phone with melodee from tck, and not only are they working one 45s etc batch as i type, but good news on the football hose, we are a goes! the revolution is ever expanding! grab your hose! grab your hose! and for the first time since i sang to jim mothervilker, aways we goes…

    when criminals in this world appear
    and break the laws that they should fear
    and frighten all who see or hear
    the cry goes up both far and near
    for properhose-properhose! properhose-properhose!

    speed of lightning, roar of thunder
    fighting all with uni-sense asunder
    properhose. properhose!

    when in this world the headlines read
    of those whose hearts are filled with greed
    who rob and steal from those who need
    to right this wrong with blinding speed
    goes properhose-properhose! properhose-properhose!

    speed of lightning, roar of thunder
    fighting all with uni-sense asunder
    properhose. properhose!

    sorry, i got excited there, you can get back to today’s topics…[/quote]

    That would make a great cartoon theme song…

    Wish I could justify stirrups, but since I don’t play softball anymore, I’ve been sitting out the revolution. Football hose, on the other hand…I just might be in on that.

    [quote comment=”354716″]Do it Saints….

    link

    heh…funny you should post that

    i actually played around with several saints tweaks recently…added white pants and a gold jersey, just for ya know…shits and gigs…also fixed the pants striping

    NO MONOCHROME for the black or gold combos tho…and they need white socks with the black pants

    thoughts?

    set one

    set two

    [quote comment=”354715″]christ, now i can’t get the underdog theme out of my head[/quote]

    tHe CRy goEs oUT bOTh fAR AnD NEAr fOr…

    prRrrrRoPerhoSe!!!!!

    you should always have that song in your head any way LI sweet polly purebread

    i assume you are a steeler fan jim mothervilker? all i can come up with for them is what they wear for their throwbacks. i spent 6 hours yesterday and already 2 today designing.

    [quote comment=”354718″][quote comment=”354716″]Do it Saints….

    link

    heh…funny you should post that

    i actually played around with several saints tweaks recently…added white pants and a gold jersey, just for ya know…shits and gigs…also fixed the pants striping

    NO MONOCHROME for the black or gold combos tho…and they need white socks with the black pants

    thoughts?

    link

    link[/quote]

    Saints should really just have the black top/gold pants at home and the white top/gold pants for the road.

    I also like the gold top/black pants as an alternate. For some reason, the white top/white pants doesn’t look too bad either, although I think it would look better with the black or gold socks.

    [quote comment=”354720″]i assume you are a steeler fan jim mothervilker? all i can come up with for them is what they wear for their throwbacks. i spent 6 hours yesterday and already 2 today designing.[/quote]

    You assume correctly, my good man. Also like the Pack, the Cards, the Giants and the Oilers.

    Better yet, I’d love me some USFL socks…

    [quote comment=”354721″][quote comment=”354718″][quote comment=”354716″]Do it Saints….

    link

    heh…funny you should post that

    i actually played around with several saints tweaks recently…added white pants and a gold jersey, just for ya know…shits and gigs…also fixed the pants striping

    NO MONOCHROME for the black or gold combos tho…and they need white socks with the black pants

    thoughts?

    link

    link[/quote]

    Saints should really just have the black top/gold pants at home and the white top/gold pants for the road.

    I also like the gold top/black pants as an alternate. For some reason, the white top/white pants doesn’t look too bad either, although I think it would look better with the black or gold socks.[/quote]

    I agree the gold over black would be a great alternate. With lighter-colored helmets (like the Saints), I think the all-white look is really good. If they wore a black helmet I’d say no.

    [quote comment=”354717″]
    Wish I could justify stirrups, but since I don’t play softball anymore, I’ve been sitting out the revolution. Football hose, on the other hand…I just might be in on that.[/quote]
    What’s to justify? I’m wearing link right now and I’m just at work sitting at a desk.

    Speed of Lightning.

    Roar of Thunder.

    [quote comment=”354724″]
    What’s to justify? I’m wearing link right now and I’m just at work sitting at a desk.

    Speed of Lightning.

    Roar of Thunder.[/quote]
    Ah yes, but when you take the Mrs out to dinner on Saturday night (hopefully avoiding Simon Bar Sinister) will you be wearing them? ;-)

    Different subject: nice picture of the Black Hawks Ice Crew (apparently they’re not sponsored this year) but an even nicer one was in the paper a few days ago.

    And I hope everyone was paying attention to the shovels, and how they’re painted in Black Hawk colors and patterns.

    BTW, I’ve had occasion to chat with some of the Ice Crew up in the cheap seats; the ones I’ve talked to aren’t taking time away from preparing their lectures for the MENSA convention to work at the Stadium, but I’m always reminded of the words of a wise man who said “who the hell cares how smart she is?”

    [quote comment=”354725″][quote comment=”354724″]
    What’s to justify? I’m wearing link right now and I’m just at work sitting at a desk.

    Speed of Lightning.

    Roar of Thunder.[/quote]
    Ah yes, but when you take the Mrs out to dinner on Saturday night (hopefully avoiding Simon Bar Sinister) will you be wearing them? ;-)

    Different subject: nice picture of the Black Hawks Ice Crew (apparently they’re not sponsored this year) but an even nicer one was in the paper a few days ago.

    And I hope everyone was paying attention to the shovels, and how they’re painted in Black Hawk colors and patterns.

    BTW, I’ve had occasion to chat with some of the Ice Crew up in the cheap seats; the ones I’ve talked to aren’t taking time away from preparing their lectures for the MENSA convention to work at the Stadium, but I’m always reminded of the words of a wise man who said “who the hell cares how smart she is?”[/quote]

    What shovels?

    [quote comment=”354679″][quote comment=”354675″][quote comment=”354673″]Ladies and Gentlemen for your viewing displeasure, link.[/quote]

    Or, for the same price, you can buy a sweatshirt and not look like a fool.

    I can’t believe those things sell.[/quote]

    And, you can hit “Play Video” and see many of them.
    Look for your favorite team and order. Hurry. Act now.[/quote]

    So the Huddler is not available for Steelers, Browns, Bills, or Dolphins? Should I be proud my Steelers did not license their logo for this shit or embarrassed that they sold out already?

    p.s. Watched the video; the one sales-lady is wearing a Bills huddler and there’s a Steelers one on their table. Damn.

    [quote comment=”354726″][quote]

    And I hope everyone was paying attention to the shovels, and how they’re painted in Black Hawk colors and patterns.[/quote]

    What shovels?[/quote]
    Ba-dum-ching!

    [quote comment=”354722″][quote comment=”354720″]i assume you are a steeler fan jim mothervilker? all i can come up with for them is what they wear for their throwbacks. i spent 6 hours yesterday and already 2 today designing.[/quote]

    You assume correctly, my good man. Also like the Pack, the Cards, the Giants and the Oilers.

    Better yet, I’d love me some USFL socks…[/quote]

    yeah, but do 11 other peeops? minimum order my good man.

    oilers? yes. cards? they have not stripes, get you some maroon socks. giants? ditto the cards.

    Also, this pic…

    link

    …brings to mind a suggestion for tomorrow’s college football 5+1 poll: not only the best, the worst but how about a “mismatch” game of great uni’s vs. abominations in the same game?

    [quote comment=”354727″]

    p.s. Watched the video; the one sales-lady is wearing a Bills huddler and there’s a Steelers one on their table. Damn.[/quote]Steeler’s helmet looks bigger than the others on that table, doesn’t it??

    Canadians who say we have a great health care system are Canadians who have never had to use it on an ongoing basis.

    Those medals make me ashamed to be a Canadian.

    [quote comment=”354727″][quote comment=”354679″][quote comment=”354675″][quote comment=”354673″]Ladies and Gentlemen for your viewing displeasure, link.[/quote]

    Or, for the same price, you can buy a sweatshirt and not look like a fool.

    I can’t believe those things sell.[/quote]

    And, you can hit “Play Video” and see many of them.
    Look for your favorite team and order. Hurry. Act now.[/quote]

    So the Huddler is not available for Steelers, Browns, Bills, or Dolphins? Should I be proud my Steelers did not license their logo for this shit or embarrassed that they sold out already?

    p.s. Watched the video; the one sales-lady is wearing a Bills huddler and there’s a Steelers one on their table. Damn.[/quote]
    From the customer reviews (I can’t believe ~A~ I wasted my time looking for these and ~B~ they were all there in the same order you listed them)…

    I just love my Steeler Huddler. Now all I have to do is get the throws!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I love my Browns Huddler. Its very warm!! Perfect size. If you are tall, do not worry it will fit you!! Lets go Browns!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I got this as a gift for my husband to give to one of our “bills” fans . he loves it! great fun and he said it’s also warm too.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    My husband & I live in a COLD state so we were looking forward to receiving these. We were SOOO pleased by our TWO Huddlers that arrived today! We ordered Miami Dolphins & Washington Redskins! The colors are vibrant and beautiful. The Huddlers are soft, cozy and so WARM! We can’t wait to watch the games this season with our new Huddlers! A GREAT PRODUCT AND A GREAT VALUE! THANK YOU HSN!

    [quote comment=”354724″][quote comment=”354717″]
    Wish I could justify stirrups, but since I don’t play softball anymore, I’ve been sitting out the revolution. Football hose, on the other hand…I just might be in on that.[/quote]
    What’s to justify? I’m wearing link right now and I’m just at work sitting at a desk.

    Speed of Lightning.

    Roar of Thunder.[/quote]

    well it is stirrup friday. and every body knows you speed the lighting roar the thunder on fridays.

    i just sent 8 pairs to a guy for a wedding, so i assume you can wear them taking out the better half, that is much less formal. besides, we all wear pants, so who is to know. as for ‘rup fridays again, does not knowing that your sporting striped stirrups under your christian dior suit give you magical buisness powers to kick ass and take names at the officeamajiggy? sheeeeet, it’s your union card of the revolution mr dear sirs…

    when criminals in this world appear
    and break the laws that they should fear
    and frighten all who see or hear
    the cry goes up both far and near
    for jim mothervilker, oh, and properhose!

    [quote comment=”354662″][quote comment=”354623″]We all know that with Nike, simplicity isn’t the only factor governing what schools get the goods.

    link

    Remember the special team-custom gloves that the elite bowl teams were given last year?

    Perhaps this promotion is advertising for gloves to eventually be offered on NIKEID.com where anyone can customize gear.

    Beaverton is also using schools like Southern Miss this year as a test program, giving them prototype cleats and gloves:

    link

    link

    link

    The irony of nicknaming Nike “Beaverton” is that the relationship between the company and the city is very strained. Nike’s HQs are an island in the city of Beaverton, but they successfully fought the attempt to have their property annexed into the city because they didn’t want to pay higher taxes. It would have taken over 30 years for the increased taxes to match what Nike spent in legal fees, and Nike won because its corporate value gave it deeper pockets than the city of Beaverton.

    The majority (including myself) of us complain about Nike’s designs, marketing, etc. This little nugget shows what a**holes they really are.[/quote]

    Yeah, because they’re the only company that ever fought to not pay more money. What a-holes!!

    [quote comment=”354732″]Canadians who say we have a great health care system are Canadians who have never had to use it on an ongoing basis.

    Those medals make me ashamed to be a Canadian.[/quote]

    Would you rather pay for an equal and/or worse system? No?

    Then stop your complaining.

    It works extremely well based upon the number of people that abuse it annually. If you don’t like how it’s being abused, speak to your local politician. They are your voice when it comes to legislative changes.

    As for the medals, they are made from recycled computer parts (good for the environment), and reflect the culture of the west coast (good for everyone). You don’t have to like them, but if you’re “ashamed to be a Canadian” because of them, I’d prefer if you were not Canadian.

    Apparently, from your bitching and complaining about things that are Canadian, you have little to be proud of when it comes to national pride.

    i imagine this nike ‘expriment’ would have to be with texas right? they’re the only nike school i can think o that uses a white helmet

    atta boy teebz.

    LI phils~ i forgot to mention this earlier, but as anybody from bawlmer knows there is really only one underdog, she even once bested satan! i hate to out her, but her real name is suzanne, and i think she might be single. you should link, she is fantastic. bet you can’t take your eyes off her, can you phil?

    [quote comment=”354736″][quote comment=”354732″]Canadians who say we have a great health care system are Canadians who have never had to use it on an ongoing basis.

    Those medals make me ashamed to be a Canadian.[/quote]

    Would you rather pay for an equal and/or worse system? No?

    Then stop your complaining.

    It works extremely well based upon the number of people that abuse it annually. If you don’t like how it’s being abused, speak to your local politician. They are your voice when it comes to legislative changes.

    As for the medals, they are made from recycled computer parts (good for the environment), and reflect the culture of the west coast (good for everyone). You don’t have to like them, but if you’re “ashamed to be a Canadian” because of them, I’d prefer if you were not Canadian.

    Apparently, from your bitching and complaining about things that are Canadian, you have little to be proud of when it comes to national pride.[/quote]

    you tell ’em, teebz

    pretty good a capella you hosers do, eh?

    [quote comment=”354739″]
    link you hosers do, eh?[/quote]

    link is even more impressive. Good on them Oilers fans!

    That still gives me chills, and it happened in 2006! Man, I love that song.

    Puma has released its Africa team kits for 2010. Interesting right shoulder thing with sublimated graphics and the stripes are meant to look rustic.

    link

    [quote comment=”354740″][quote comment=”354739″]
    link you hosers do, eh?[/quote]

    link is even more impressive. Good on them Oilers fans!

    That still gives me chills, and it happened in 2006! Man, I love that song.[/quote]

    During the UW Winter Classic in January, Teebz, I’ll tell you a story about “Oh, Canada” that the major media never reported, because they didn’t know it happened. Was at Maple Leaf Gardens. Second game of that series back in ’72, was it, when the NHL played the Russians for the first time. Canada had been hammered in the first game in Montreal.

    It was, and still is, one of the greatest moments I ever witnessed in hockey or another sport…and history knows nothing about it, or never noted it.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”354649″][quote comment=”354647″]The Islanders will be wearing “spooky” practice jerseys for Halloween…

    If they really want to scare their fans, they should just bring back link.[/quote]

    I’d buy season tickets just to see those jerseys. And my commute to Long Island would be a little more than 48 hours each time. LOL

    Those jerseys are still incredibly awesome.[/quote]

    Teebz,

    I think if you drove the 48 hours to our Nassau Mausoleum I’d even buy you a beer and wear that hideous jersey for a period or two.

    I think I’d also get you a case of link for the drive back.

    [quote comment=”354589″]Mile High Stadium was home to minor league baseball from the late 40s through 1992. Per link, this pic comes from 1991.

    If the NCAA alt has a checkerboard design, does that mean it’s the Vols?[/quote]

    Won’t be Tennessee. They’re an adidas school!

    In the wake of Oregon allowing the possibility of LeGarrette Blount returning from his suspension in the upcoming weeks check out these t-shirts that someone designed. I especially like the “can-o-woop-ass” on the back. Does anyone think the font on the front looks an awful lot like those MMA Tapout shirts? Fitting, huh?

    link

    [quote comment=”354705″]Ignoring the Huddler for a moment, I think you could make a fortune by selling NFL Huggies. (They’re disposable diapers right?) Just print the logo of a team on the inside. Sell Vikings in Green Bay. Steelers in Cleveland. etc.

    Finally, Dallas could once again be America’s Team, at least in sales.[/quote]

    Hey at least someone could lead the Browns to the Super Bowl

    [quote comment=”354745″]
    I think if you drove the 48 hours to our Nassau Mausoleum I’d even buy you a beer and wear that hideous jersey for a period or two.

    I think I’d also get you a case of link for the drive back.[/quote]

    It wouldn’t be a 48 hour drive back if that case was consumed. :-)

    SPEEDING??? WHOMESPEEDING?? WHATAREYOUTALKINGABOUTOFFICER???

    [quote comment=”354743″]the best one i can think of from the states is of course the 91 all star game here in chicago[/quote]
    For Teebz & others from the Great White North, the old Stadium was a-rockin’ for Oh Canada right after Canada helped rescue some American hostages in the Middle East.

    [quote comment=”354746″]teebz

    be sure you have link[/quote]

    I Think I saw the anthem singer performing with the Canadian ballet in Montreal ;o)

    [quote comment=”354736″]
    Would you rather pay for an equal and/or worse system? No?

    Then stop your complaining.

    It works extremely well based upon the number of people that abuse it annually. If you don’t like how it’s being abused, speak to your local politician. They are your voice when it comes to legislative changes.[/quote]

    Not my problem. I pay plenty and I get a system that does not work. When you have a universal system, people are going to abuse it. That’s just the way it works — if it’s free, some people will abuse it. Nobody has come up with an acceptable solution to that. Meanwhile those of us with real problems pay and get minimal care in return.

    [quote]As for the medals, they are made from recycled computer parts (good for the environment), and reflect the culture of the west coast (good for everyone). You don’t have to like them, but if you’re “ashamed to be a Canadian” because of them, I’d prefer if you were not Canadian.

    Apparently, from your bitching and complaining about things that are Canadian, you have little to be proud of when it comes to national pride.[/quote]

    Our health care system leaves a lot to be desired and is nothing to sing about, not when you have people turned away from emergency rooms due to lack of resources or waiting over a year for life-changing surgery. As for the medals, if you think that items that look like a bunch of 45rpm records left on the back window shelf of your mom’s Buick in the summer of ’67 looks good, then there’s no sense having this conversation. Those things are ugly and an embarrassment.

    Canada has a lot of things to be proud of. These two things do not make that list.

    [quote comment=\”354623\”]
    Beaverton is also using schools like Southern Miss this year as a test program, giving them prototype cleats and gloves:

    link

    [/quote]

    Can we still consider these prototypes eventhough they\’re Hyperdunks with cleats?

    I haven’t read all the comments, I was at the USF game last night and I notice the helmets are off-white. Most likely pearlized. Also they warmed up with their gold helmets.

    [quote comment=”354755″]buncha fudds at the stadium tonight

    /wusses[/quote]

    any fans wearing snuggies?
    (pinstripe)

    [quote comment=”354746″]teebz

    be sure you have link[/quote]

    Canada does have a lot to be proud of…

    I love that anthem. You mind if we borrow it?

    A-MER-ICA!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons command.
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    Our country strong and free!
    From far and wide, America,
    We stand on guard for thee.
    God keep our land glorious and free!
    America, we stand on guard for thee.
    America, we stand on guard for thee.

    Give us the anthem and we’ll give you Vermont. Deal?

    [quote comment=”354734″][quote comment=”354724″][quote comment=”354717″]
    Wish I could justify stirrups, but since I don’t play softball anymore, I’ve been sitting out the revolution. Football hose, on the other hand…I just might be in on that.[/quote]
    What’s to justify? I’m wearing link right now and I’m just at work sitting at a desk.

    Speed of Lightning.

    Roar of Thunder.[/quote]

    well it is stirrup friday. and every body knows you speed the lighting roar the thunder on fridays.

    i just sent 8 pairs to a guy for a wedding, so i assume you can wear them taking out the better half, that is much less formal. besides, we all wear pants, so who is to know. as for ‘rup fridays again, does not knowing that your sporting striped stirrups under your christian dior suit give you magical buisness powers to kick ass and take names at the officeamajiggy? sheeeeet, it’s your union card of the revolution mr dear sirs…

    when criminals in this world appear
    and break the laws that they should fear
    and frighten all who see or hear
    the cry goes up both far and near
    for jim mothervilker, oh, and properhose![/quote]

    Well, if it weren’t for the possibility of football hose, I might have broken down eventually and gotten some stirrups. Just couldn’t decide betweeen the ’71 Pirates and the Senators, so I bailed.

    [quote comment=”354758″]Our health care system leaves a lot to be desired and is nothing to sing about, not when you have people turned away from emergency rooms due to lack of resources or waiting over a year for life-changing surgery. As for the medals, if you think that items that look like a bunch of 45rpm records left on the back window shelf of your mom’s Buick in the summer of ’67 looks good, then there’s no sense having this conversation. Those things are ugly and an embarrassment.[/quote]
    Just to make sure I know which system we’re talking about: Do people get turned away from emergency rooms because of a “lack of resources” in the USA or Canada?

    [quote comment=”354746″]be sure you have link[/quote]Ya know, I thought you were advising him to have his tissues ready because he was liable to burst into tears in a patriotic reaction to hearing the Canadian National Anthem.

    Then… I clicked on the video. :-0

    Maybe I wasn’t thinking right about the tissues.

    [quote comment=”354759″]Give us the anthem and we’ll give you Vermont. Deal?[/quote]No no no! Make them take California too!!

    [quote comment=”354753″]I Think I saw the anthem singer performing with the Canadian ballet in Montreal ;o)[/quote]Well, I’d pay to see her at the ballet in a Canadian city bordering Detroit.

    Is it just me or are the Rutgers helmets just a tad too sparklely. I don’t remember them that way, but this is the first time I’ve seen Rutgers this year.

    [quote comment=”354764″][quote comment=”354753″]I Think I saw the anthem singer performing with the Canadian ballet in Montreal ;o)[/quote]Well, I’d pay to see her at the ballet in a Canadian city bordering Detroit.[/quote]

    Yes, Windsor has a fine ballet as well ;o)

    [quote comment=”354746″]teebz

    be sure you have link[/quote]

    I was at that game – that was the last regular season game against Los Angeles. There were a few more home playoff games before they went out against Detroit in five or six.

    ( I still have the ticket, they didn’t rip them on the way in. There was also a keychain which I gave away a while ago)

    [quote comment=”354767″]Yes, Windsor has a fine ballet as well ;o)[/quote]They’ve converted a lot of people who said that ballet was boring. Many a lover of the fine arts has started his or her appreciation of the cultural events in Windsor.

    [quote comment=”354762″][quote comment=”354746″]be sure you have link[/quote]Ya know, I thought you were advising him to have his tissues ready because he was liable to burst into tears in a patriotic reaction to hearing the Canadian National Anthem.

    Then… I clicked on the video. :-0

    Maybe I wasn’t thinking right about the tissues.[/quote]

    what the hell are you talking aboot?

    [quote comment=”354761″]
    Just to make sure I know which system we’re talking about: Do people get turned away from emergency rooms because of a “lack of resources” in the USA or Canada?[/quote]

    Canada. Happens all the time, unless the ER is completely closed that day, in which case they don’t even get a chance to be turned away since they can’t even get inside.

    [quote comment=”354773″]If we’re talking anthems, this one definitely goes down as a “classic”

    link

    From Las Vegas Posse[/quote]

    nothing tops this

    ever

    not even carl lewis

    I’m just getting around to watching Wednesday’s David Letterman show on the DVR. During Chris “Mad Dog” Russo’s guest spot, Letterman, unsolicited, sang the praises of the Broncos’ AFL throwbacks, and Russo complimented him on his sports acumen.

    [quote comment=”354756″]
    Not my problem. I pay plenty and I get a system that does not work. When you have a universal system, people are going to abuse it. That’s just the way it works — if it’s free, some people will abuse it. Nobody has come up with an acceptable solution to that. Meanwhile those of us with real problems pay and get minimal care in return.[/quote]

    Um, it is your problem as much as it mine. If you bitch and complain about it, it’s clearly a problem. SO either stop bitching, or do something about it.

    And why are you looking a gift horse in the mouth? Those of “you” with real problems wouldn’t even qualify for American health insurance, meaning that your “guaranteed” treatment just cost you, say, $30,000.

    Let’s see: one year’s salary to get treatment now, or wait a year and keep the money that I earn after taxes which amounts to approximately $24,000. I’ll wait the year and keep the 24-large. Thanks for the “crap” medical care. That 24-grand means nothing when it comes to feeding my family and putting a roof over their heads.

    [quote comment=”354756″]Our health care system leaves a lot to be desired and is nothing to sing about, not when you have people turned away from emergency rooms due to lack of resources or waiting over a year for life-changing surgery.[/quote]

    You keep saying this, but you neither offer a suggestion on how to fix it or offer a way to make it better. If you aren’t part of the solution, there’s only one side you can be on. And no one likes to listen to someone bitch and whine and moan and complain constantly. Get off your ass and do something if you don’t like it!

    [quote comment=”354756″]As for the medals, if you think that items that look like a bunch of 45rpm records left on the back window shelf of your mom’s Buick in the summer of ’67 looks good, then there’s no sense having this conversation. Those things are ugly and an embarrassment.

    Canada has a lot of things to be proud of. These two things do not make that list.[/quote]

    You’re not an athlete, you’re never going to wear one, you have nothing to do with the Olympics, you weren’t part of the design process. Did I sum that up enough there for you to rescind your citizenship over something that embarrasses you that much? Because I can think of a number of things worse than the medals that I’d be patriotically-embarrassed about.

    But you keep complaining about the one thing that middle-class Americans want, that the rest of the world has, and that we, as Canadians, are extremely proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s a helluva lot better than the alternative.

    And if you don’t like our health care, I would suppose that Tommy Douglas was just a lunatic communist bastard in your eyes too? Because he was voted as the most important Canadian in the history of our country.

    [quote comment=”354772″][quote comment=”354761″]
    Just to make sure I know which system we’re talking about: Do people get turned away from emergency rooms because of a “lack of resources” in the USA or Canada?[/quote]

    Canada. Happens all the time, unless the ER is completely closed that day, in which case they don’t even get a chance to be turned away since they can’t even get inside.[/quote]

    WHERE DO YOU LIVE THAT THIS HAPPENS ON A REGULAR BASIS?

    It’s an ER. It’s impossible for them to turn away life-threatening medical situations. I know ER doctors who work overtime for free because they have taken the oath to save lives. What you are saying is absolutely impossible. You hear me? IMPOSSIBLE.

    Unless there is some major catastrophe happening like an earthquake or a hurricane, I know of no ERs closing in any Canadian city at any time to people who need emergency services. I have never, in all my years on the planet, seen an ER close. My mother, who works in the ER, has never once been told to go home because the ER is closing. NEVER. As in NOT ONCE in her 35+ years of working in the ER.

    However, if you come in with a hangnail or a sniffle, I’d toss your ass out on the street as well. Why? Because you’re one of the people abusing the system! But they don’t even do that!

    [quote comment=”354778″]
    You keep saying this, but you neither offer a suggestion on how to fix it or offer a way to make it better. If you aren’t part of the solution, there’s only one side you can be on. And no one likes to listen to someone bitch and whine and moan and complain constantly. Get off your ass and do something if you don’t like it!
    [/quote]

    Hey, if I had a solution, I wouldn’t be posting here. I would be sitting on my private island in the Bahamas enjoying the untold wealth I would have made from my solution. There ISN’T a solution. That’s the problem.

    [quote]You’re not an athlete, you’re never going to wear one, you have nothing to do with the Olympics, you weren’t part of the design process. [/quote]

    Uh, we’re here to comment on Paul’s column, of which the medals were a featured part. Sorry you don’t like my comment, but that’s why we’re all here, isn’t it?

    [quote]But you keep complaining about the one thing that middle-class Americans want, that the rest of the world has, and that we, as Canadians, are extremely proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s a helluva lot better than the alternative.[/quote]

    Why is the alternative a US-style system? Geezus, what is it with some people who only see 2 sides to every issue?

    [quote]And if you don’t like our health care, I would suppose that Tommy Douglas was just a lunatic communist bastard in your eyes too? Because he was voted as the most important Canadian in the history of our country.[/quote]

    By the CBC. Enough said.

    [quote comment=”354779″][quote comment=”354772″][quote comment=”354761″]
    Just to make sure I know which system we’re talking about: Do people get turned away from emergency rooms because of a “lack of resources” in the USA or Canada?[/quote]

    Canada. Happens all the time, unless the ER is completely closed that day, in which case they don’t even get a chance to be turned away since they can’t even get inside.[/quote]

    WHERE DO YOU LIVE THAT THIS HAPPENS ON A REGULAR BASIS?

    It’s an ER. It’s impossible for them to turn away life-threatening medical situations. I know ER doctors who work overtime for free because they have taken the oath to save lives. What you are saying is absolutely impossible. You hear me? IMPOSSIBLE.
    [/quote]

    It happens in Nova Scotia constantly. It happens so often that it’s not even news here any more. Get a clue, do some research, and get off YOUR lazy ass and know what you’re talking about before you go around shouting things about which you know nothing.

    [quote comment=”354797″][quote comment=”354779″][quote comment=”354772″][quote comment=”354761″]
    Just to make sure I know which system we’re talking about: Do people get turned away from emergency rooms because of a “lack of resources” in the USA or Canada?[/quote]

    Canada. Happens all the time, unless the ER is completely closed that day, in which case they don’t even get a chance to be turned away since they can’t even get inside.[/quote]

    WHERE DO YOU LIVE THAT THIS HAPPENS ON A REGULAR BASIS?

    It’s an ER. It’s impossible for them to turn away life-threatening medical situations. I know ER doctors who work overtime for free because they have taken the oath to save lives. What you are saying is absolutely impossible. You hear me? IMPOSSIBLE.
    [/quote]

    It happens in Nova Scotia constantly. It happens so often that it’s not even news here any more. Get a clue, do some research, and get off YOUR lazy ass and know what you’re talking about before you go around shouting things about which you know nothing.[/quote]

    How is it the health care system’s fault that there aren’t enough nurses and doctors to solve your problem? Here’s some research.

    They can’t make people go to school to learn the trade. They can only hire those willing to go through the education system. The “resource shortage” that you speak of is not a health care problem, but overall systematic problem from the education system to the govenment to the health care industry.

    No students = no nurses. No nurses = no ER. It’s that simple. In fact, there is a shortage of nurses, doctors, x-ray techs, physiotherapists, lab techs and a multitude of other positions within hospitals, but you seem to forget that there are other positions outside of the ER.

    This isn’t a health care system problem at all. Blame is simply assigned there because they are the most visibly noticed.

    And Nova Scotia ERs are closing because of two issues: you have no nurses, and your province can’t seem to attract any new ones. This is more of a governmental problem than a health care problem. What was my original comment?

    If you want change, speak to your local politician.

    [quote comment=”354759″][quote comment=”354746″]teebz

    be sure you have link[/quote]

    Canada does have a lot to be proud of…

    I love that anthem. You mind if we borrow it?

    A-MER-ICA!
    Our home and native land!
    True patriot love in all thy sons command.
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
    Our country strong and free!
    From far and wide, America,
    We stand on guard for thee.
    God keep our land glorious and free!
    America, we stand on guard for thee.
    America, we stand on guard for thee.

    Give us the anthem and we’ll give you Vermont. Deal?[/quote]

    No way! We keep Vermont, but give them South Carolina.

    [quote comment=\”354822\”]
    How is it the health care system\’s fault that there aren\’t enough nurses and doctors to solve your problem?
    ..
    This isn’t a health care system problem at all. Blame is simply assigned there because they are the most visibly noticed.[/quote]
    [/quote]

    It is the system’s fault because the system does nothing to manage demand other than through use of a queueing model, leading to long wait times and inadequate care for the customer. It also results in an insatiable demand for these people, which means that they need to get paid, which means that the government either hasn’t got enough money to pay them at all or cannot pay them a competitive enough wage to work here, so they all go off to Florida or wherever to work for better pay and ERs here have to close.

    This is the fundamental problem with our system — you cannot possibly provide enough resources under the current model to get it to work decently.

    [quote]And Nova Scotia ERs are closing because of two issues: you have no nurses, and your province can\’t seem to attract any new ones. This is more of a governmental problem than a health care problem. What was my original comment?

    If you want change, speak to your local politician.[/quote]

    Actually your original comment was that it was impossible…. er, excuse me, [b]IMPOSSIBLE[/b], for ERs not to be open and available. So I guess I can mark that up as progress with you now that you have admitted that to be false, but at this point it hardly seems worth bothering. You think the system’s great, good for you. Take some advice: just don’t get a chronic disease.

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