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Design A Cap Nominees

design a cap nominees

By Phil Hecken

OK, it’s time to announce the nominees for the “Design A Cap” contest (the contest is now closed, but if you missed the original article, click here). Hopefully, one of the caps you’re about to see will be chosen by Coach Nemanich for his team, the Sartell Sabres. Lots to get to today, so lets begin.

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Our first nominee comes from Adam Hainsfurther. Here’s his submission. And here’s Adam:

I went with a bit of a hockey fans touch on this. This is a logo similar to an alternate logo for the Buffalo Sabres, using the S provided to us by Coach Nemanich. After throwing the S in front of Sword I proceeded to change the colors of both the S and the sword in four different combinations of Navy, Royal, White, and Silver. This is what I came up with (note: I rendered up the white hat thinking what the hell, personally I’d go with the silver before the white one, but the Navy and Royal versions are my two favorites)

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Next is Wesley Willis, who has two submissions, a home and an away. Here’s Wesley:

My name is Wesley Willis of Boaz, AL, and I am a avid reader of Uni Watch and I read it every day.

Here are my submissions for the home and away caps for the Sartell Sabres.

The logo, which is maintained throughout both caps, is a classic-looking letter S with a black sabre through its center from the lower-right hand area to the upper-left hand area. The home cap is all royal blue with an white S and black sabre, and the away cap is a white cap with a royal blue bill and royal blue S and black sabre. I hope that you and Coach Nemanich both like what I’ve produced here, and thank you for your consideration. I created these two files in Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0.

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Our next cap entry comes from Keith Dow. Keith submitted this cap for consideration. Here’s Keith:

Since Indiana football isn’t on IU’s basic cable today for some strange reason, this contest was a perfect timewaster. Expect a few of these since I have a ton of fun making them.

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Moving along, we have Sam Stuber who offers this submission. Here’s Sam:

My name’s Sam Stuber and here’s my design. Hope mine wins!

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Our next entry comes from Nat Overholtzer. Nat didn’t include any write up with his submission, but he did include this cap. Thanks, Nat!

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Continuing along, we have an entry from Ed Westfield, Jr., who came up with these four designs. Here’s Ed:

Here is my entry for Sartell Sabres cap contest. I went with the
Virgina motif…Thank you.

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Our next cap comes from Chad Anderson, who came up with this design. Here’s Chad:

Here’s an entry in the Design A Cap Contest. I might try another.

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The next submission comes from Josh Skattum, who provided only logos. Here are logo one and logo two. Josh explains:

Hello I am currently living in Sartell, MN and frequent the site quite a bit. I have to say I was surprised to read a story posted on Uni Watch from not only my home state, but hometown. Here are a couple of my suggestions, both are taken from the Buffalo Sabres design.

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Next up is R. Scott Rogers, who has multiple submissions contained within his entry. Scott has quite the explanation:

Here is my entry in the cap contest for the Sartell Sabres. I grew up in Minnesota, and so have seen Sartell’s football and boy’s hockey uniforms in the past, and I drew some inspiration from those unis, which have nicely balanced royal and white with touches of gray or silver.

Working from Coach Nemanich’s suggestions, I imagined an “S” logo that could convey both the jaunty swooshing of a movie swordsman, a Zorro or Rob Roy, with the dynamic stance of a fencer. To bring in Coach Nemanich’s U-Va inspiration, I wanted to put a sabre blade figuratively in the hands of the Sartell “S”. I drew an “S” with a single fluid line that could be carved by a swordsman, with bulbs at each end like a fencer’s hands, and then put a cavalry sabre blade into the “S”‘s hands. I angled the blade to give a sense of depth, to balance the slightly askew “S”, and to allow the “S” logo to work with either “Sabres” or “Sartell” jersey scripts in the future. (Outlined and drop-shadowed versions of the scripts on white and royal.)

I kept the double-outline of Sartell’s current cap logo, in part for continuity and to allow for better visual balance with the team’s white uniforms, and in part because the introduction of a gray-and-black blade in the blue or white letter requires the double outline. I’ve supplied images of the logo in Sartell’s current scheme of royal and white-and-royal caps, but I would suggest replacing one of these with a royal-and-gray cap to maintain a stronger connection to the school’s athletic identity.

I believe that my script “S”, which falls somewhere between the flatter cursive “S” used by the St. Paul Saints on their jerseys and the rounder one used for the 2001 All-Star Game in Milwaukee, allows this cap logo to integrate with the current uniform set without clashing, and also gives Coach Nemanich a strong logo to grow into as the team moves into its next uniform purchase.

In addition, I intended the cap logo to have at least the potential for use in other sports; I think it could work both on football helmets and on boys and girls hockey shoulder patches.

If four-color embroidery is prohibitive, the blade could be rendered in a single flat color that matches the outer outline, either black or gray. (I would choose gray.) The logo thus rendered loses a sense of depth and motion, but the image of the sabre blade remains clear.

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Moving along, we have our next entry courtesy of Jason Epstein, who provides us two separate design concepts: concept one and concept two. Here’s Jason:

I read your online column everyday, great stuff!

Please see attached jpeg for my initial submission for the cap design contest.

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Moving along, we next have Ben Smith who has provide us with this entry. Here’s Ben:

Here’s my submission, thanks for the challenge I had fun. — Pomegranates are too much work to enjoy.

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Next up is Jeff Bahry, who also just provided logos. Here are logo one and logo two. Here’s Jeff to explain:

Please find the attached two logo concepts for the Sartell Sabres. I used Corel X3, so the the color may not appear Royal on your screen. But, you get the idea.

GO SABRES!

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Our next submission comes from Doug Smith, who is decidedly old-school with his entry. Here’s Doug:

Hope you guys like it! Love UniWatch!

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Our next entries come from Eric Davila who has three options: option 1, option 2, and option 3. Here’s Eric:

Here are a few ideas I wanted to send in for the design contest. Hopefully they will like them.

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Next up is Joseph Baker, who has provided both a logo and a cap mockup. Here’s Joe:

I have attached my cap design ideas. I hope you enjoy them.

Thanks, joe baker

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Next up is Daniel Carroll, who offers this submission. Here’s Daniel:

Thanks for putting this contest online!

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Moving on, we have our next entry from Greg Gangemi, who came up with this design. Here’s Greg:

Attached is the hat concept that I came up with for the Sartell Sabres.

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And now we have Jeff Pudlo, who has 2 logos and 2 caps: logo one, logo 2, which correspond to cap one and cap 2. Here’s Jeff:

Two designs, both included along with corresponding logos.

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Our next submission comes from Vincent Hecker, who provides both a cap logo and a cap design. Here’s Vincent:

I dont know if you are still taking submissions for the cap design contest but i figured id send my work to you anyways. Basically all i did was redesign the S logo that the school already uses to make it look more sharp. Then I incorporated the sabre/sword logo behind the S. I guess that goes along the Virginia logo affect that the coach is looking for.

Im sorry that this work was all done in Microsoft paint (poor college student, cant afford photoshop), but i think it came out well for the best part. I have included the logo only in the first file. The second file is the logo as it would look on the hat. When i shrunk the logo down in paint to put it on the hat it really blurred out though.

Let me know what you think. I would appreciate the feedback from you and the coach.

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And our penultimate cap submissions come from Dan Grieve, who has created both a white cap and a blue cap. Dan didn’t provide any commentary, but the two hats are just great. Thanks. And as a last minute addition, Dan also came up with two ‘alternate’ submissions, white alt and blue alt.

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And finally, we have several submissions from Larry Torrenz, who not only created caps and logos, but (even though we didn’t ask for it) uniforms as well. So here are black jersey (with caps), blue jersey, gray road, and home white, as well as a school name alternate and a white alt; Larry also included a full uni mock and two wordmark/logos, here and here. Whew. Here’s Larry:

Thought I would take a whack at the logo request. Decided to keep it simple, with a little flair on the lettering.

Thanks for all the good work keeping the Uni-Watch followers well fed with uni-goodness…

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*Got One Late entry (rec’d last night after I’d gone to bed), but I’ll throw it in here right now. It comes from Shane Wisniewski, who simply provided this sketch with no comments.

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Well, there you have it. All I can say is HOLY SHIT WOW! What an outstanding effort from all of these designers. Every one of them is each outstanding in it’s own right, and I’m sure Coach Nemanich will have a difficult time choosing one. I hope that one of them will be selected as the “winner,” but they’re all great.

My thanks (deep, deep thanks) to each and every person who participated in this contest. Since the reaction was so great, I hope we can have a similar contest in the near future.

Like one of the designs? Make sure to cast your vote for the winner in the comments.

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benchies headerAfter taking a weekend off to enjoy watch the Gophers, the Cardiac Kids Twins, and enjoying a Monday evening with #4, Ricko’s back with the Boys from Benchies. Who knew Mike was a ‘Bama fan? Not me … I always thought he was a guy who loved the Beavers. Anyway, here is your fresh Saturday Benchies. Welcome back Mr. Pearson, we missed ya.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: Well, we’re into baseball’s second season, so what will today’s scoreboard game be? A post season game? Hmmm… Possibly. You’ll just have to decide that for yourself. However, when you see the picture, that answer should be clear. Please be sure to post a LINK to the answer, using Retrosheet or Baseball Almanac, k? Ready. Set. Guess The Game. Feel free to send me more scoreboards so we can keep the game going into the off-season. Just Drop me a line. Thanks.

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mailBagI get a lot of E-mail from UW readers, and I appreciate it, and try to read it all. Most of it is in response to a request or a contest submission, or what have you, but occasionally I get a random E-mail that turns into something neat. Case in point. Reader Ted Machnik sent me the following earlier this week:

Hi Phil:

I’m not handy with with templates and such, but I’m wondering if you could get your friend, Paul Soto, to come up with a couple of renderings of the Washington Nationals in the Expos original colours, trim, and fonts, circa 1969.

I think the scripted “W” would look very good on a tri-color cap. On the unis, “nats” where “expos” use to be. I would be curious to see how it would look.

Thanks.

Ted

Well, one thing led to another — I contacted Paul (“Pretty Boy Paulie“) with Ted’s request, and well, Paulie didn’t disappoint! So, I’m happy to share with you Paul’s Washington Expos, circa 1969:

For reference, here’s what the Expos looked like in 1969. Paul didn’t (yet) take a crack at the roadies, but he did a smashup job on the homes. He created four different logos for the Nationals based on the combined Nats & Expos script/wordmark. But he wasn’t done. He also mocked up six possible home unis. You can check them out here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Great work Paulie, and fantastic suggestion Ted!

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Aighty then. That’s gonna do it for today. Everyone have a great Saturday. Our man on the street, Jim Vilk is gonna be out in the boonies (for real) this weekend, sans access to the Interwebs. So, I’m temporarily taking back the “Top 5 and 1 Worst College Football Matchups,” so to help me out, everyone pick one best and one worst game today. Remember, it’s the overall matchup, so if one team looks great but the other, not so much, it doesn’t qualify. OK? OK. Thanks.

 

156 comments to Design A Cap Nominees

  • jesse | October 10, 2009 at 7:09 am |

    Nice job on all the cap submissions. Paulie GREAT work on the Nats stuff, really enjoy it, it would be a nice look for them.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 7:32 am |

    Glad I don’t have to make the decision on the hats designs. Great, great stuff, people

    Amazing, all this talent at UW, and some bozo with no sense for the practical application of his work gets the UFL design contract.

    —Ricko

  • Chad T | October 10, 2009 at 7:47 am |

    I agree that there are a lot of good submissions for the contest….it’s tough to choose just one. In terms of a bad football matchup, I would guess the dustup between Fla.Int’l and Western Kentucky, both 0-4, would qualify.

  • Steve | October 10, 2009 at 8:06 am |

    The scoreboard is the last game at Shea:
    http://www.retroshee...

  • JTH | October 10, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    Fantastic stuff, everyone (the contest entries and the Natspos unis). Unfortunately, I don’t have the time today to really look at every one of them in enough detail to pick my favorites. I’ll say this, though. I don’t think Coach Nemanich could go wrong with any of those.

    Oh, and it’s good to see that Wesley Willis is alive and well. That contest submission is surely no Fiasco. In fact, it whips the polar bear’s ass.

  • mmwatkin | October 10, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    If I had a vote:

    http://farm3.static....

  • Greg B. | October 10, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Love that Nats unis inspired by the Expos! Don’t care for the “DC” logo but any of the others would be a big improvement over their current wardrobe.

  • Helmets Match Pants | October 10, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    Those Expos/Nationals uniforms (the ones with the W, not the DC) are awesome! Wish there was one with “natinals” though for some laughs…

  • Mike | October 10, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    Observations on day two of the President’s Cup are up at: chapeaunoirgolf.com

  • Hibbsy | October 10, 2009 at 9:56 am |

    Wesley Willis!?
    I thought you were dead.
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Hibbsy | October 10, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    Hey Pretty Boy,
    Why not just flip the Expos logo?
    An “M” upside down is a “W”.

  • Hibbsy | October 10, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    Kudos to the hand drawn designs today.

  • Wes | October 10, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”353193″]Fantastic stuff, everyone (the contest entries and the Natspos unis). Unfortunately, I don’t have the time today to really look at every one of them in enough detail to pick my favorites. I’ll say this, though. I don’t think Coach Nemanich could go wrong with any of those.

    Oh, and it’s good to see that Wesley Willis is alive and well. That contest submission is surely no Fiasco. In fact, it whips the polar bear’s ass.[/quote]

    Aww, thanks for your kind and humorous words, JTH. Anyway, it’s always an honor to do what I like best and it’s another honor to even have my design nominated.

    Thank you,

    Wesley Willis

  • Hibbsy | October 10, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    Rats!
    I thought I was the first one to reference Wesley Willis.
    Comment #5 beat me to it.

  • Steve | October 10, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    Good work on the cap designs. I hope none of the ones with copyright infringements gets picked as the winner (the ones that jacked the sabre from the Buffalo Sabres logo).

    That being said, my winner: Jason Epstein’s first submission. Just awesome.

  • BenA | October 10, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    So many good cap/uni submissions. My one conclusion: in general, it’s better to have the sabre(s) pointing up than pointing down. (What would you call the science of designing unis with swords on them? Sabremetrics!)

    But then I got to Larry Torrenz’s uni designs and I was almost convinced that this rule, too, could be productively broken.

    Great work, all!

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    I like Doug Smith’s “old school”, because, well, I’m old school. It’s too nice for a hat though-think it would make a better shoulder patch. Especially like that there is some color in it and the baseball seams.

    Kudos to everyone for their efforts.

    http://farm3.static....

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    Larry Torrenz’s extensive set of uni mockups look field-ready to me. The arched, beveled wordmark is a real good fit with those colors and that font. A very good design all around. Just sharp.

    I’ll have to look at all the caps one more time to pick a favorite.

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    All the cap designs were good. Thanks for providing fellow Uni-watchers with more fodder for discussion.
    Jason Epstein’s single sabre “S” and Doug Grieve’s white alt and blue alt caps struck me as especially unique and well designed. Great work!

  • M.Princip | October 10, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    Nice job all. I would have to say it’s a toss up between Jason Epstein’s and Dan Grieve’s concepts. Mostly, the two alternate submissions by Dan I liked. I think the clincher for me would be to see player illustrations wearing the concepts.

  • JohnnyO | October 10, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”353197″]Observations on day two of the President’s Cup are up at: chapeaunoirgolf.com[/quote]

    Your site is my new obsession Mike. As a golf pro, and someone in the golf business for 10 years now, I can tell you know and love what you are writing about. VERY well done.

    Also, are you, or have you been in the golf business?

  • Patrick in MI | October 10, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    “Cut the mullet! Tell the barber you’re sick of looking like an asshole! Rock on London…rock on Chicago…Budweiser, king of beers!”

    Ummm, a lot of great cap designs today! I especially like the pinwheel and white front ones.

    Anyone else here collect gumball helmets? I’m willing to trade my doubles. Anxious to see the new gumballs for Jax.

  • Casey L. | October 10, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    My favorite of the hats is Joseph Baker’s design:

    http://farm4.static....

  • mark | October 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    Another GREAT weekend ‘Uni Watch’ guys. My vote goes to the first submission from Adam Hainsfurther. Heck w/logo infringement.

  • Thomas Clark | October 10, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    I’m a little freaked out at the rumors of Michigan wearing all-whites tonight.

  • muddlehead | October 10, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    best logos have no words/letters. lose the esses. (my apologies if that was a contest requirement.)

  • The Jeff | October 10, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”353210″]

    Anyone else here collect gumball helmets? I’m willing to trade my doubles. Anxious to see the new gumballs for Jax.[/quote]

    Do they even still make those things? I haven’t seen any non-custom gumball helmets in a few years. I’ve got the 28 teams from 1981, but they haven’t really aged well.. stickers peeling and whatnot.

    I think the Riddell Pocket Pro helmets are cooler now, if a little more expensive.

  • DougSmith | October 10, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    Great designs everyone!

    Thanks for the compliments!

  • denverjason | October 10, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    Mike Klis is a good football writer, but should leave fashion critiques to the experts. http://www.denverpos...

  • denverjason | October 10, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    You have to register for that article, so here is just the photo. http://www.denverpos...

  • The Jeff | October 10, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”353218″]You have to register for that article, so here is just the photo. http://www.denverpos...

    …striped arms too? Oy.

    I guess they just want to be as ugly as they can, eh?

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”353218″]You have to register for that article, so here is just the photo. http://www.denverpos...

    Hope the Broncos wear white crew socks with those. The original look wasn’t knee-to-cleats sripes. That’s gonna be WAY too overpowering. Not like the originals were great-looking, but it didn’t knock you over the way the current style will. It won’t really be an accurate “feel” for the way those unis looked on the field in ’60 and ’61. In other words, it’ll be even uglier, and that’s not quite right. Know what I mean?

    Interesting, cuz their regular socks have a significant white lower portion built in. You think they’d have done it with these. Colored socks all the way to the shoes was the looke in the 20’s and 30’s. Not the 60’s.

    —Ricko

  • denverjason | October 10, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    “…striped arms too? Oy.

    I guess they just want to be as ugly as they can, eh?”

    I don’t think they’ll wear those for the game. That’s probably just Doom having some laughs at practice. Practice. I mean come on, we talkin bout practice. Not a game. Practice. Practice.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    See? The white socks really keep the verticals from being so ovewhelming. Plus, I still think there were more stripes (meaning they were narrower) on the originals.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”353222″]See? The white socks really keep the verticals from being so ovewhelming. Plus, I still think there were more stripes (meaning they were narrower) on the originals.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That photo’s from ’60, btw. Three indicators for sure: 1) Three-corner hat on Pats helmet, 2) High white socks on Pats, 3) TV numbers on Broncos home golds. All of those were 1960 only.

    —Ricko

  • Mike Engle | October 10, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    Those Nationexpos concepts are gut-wrenching to look at. Kind of like seeing an old high-school sweetheart’s kids with somebody else.
    Well executed though. Thanks :-(
    –UW’s Ex-Patriate Reader in Montreal

  • Hibbsy | October 10, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”353214″]best logos have no words/letters. lose the esses. (my apologies if that was a contest requirement.)[/quote]
    best hats have no logos. letters only.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    Players in photo…
    Broncos 40, Al Carmichael, former Packer RB.
    Broncos 87, Lionel Taylor (who caught 92 passes that year after spending 1959 with Bears as a, yes, linebacker).
    Pats 20, Gino Cappelletti, who played DB that first season, moving to WR in ’61.
    Pats 31, Clyde Washington.

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | October 10, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”353222″]See? The white socks really keep the verticals from being so ovewhelming. Plus, I still think there were more stripes (meaning they were narrower) on the originals.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I don’t think the white helps that much. It’s still pretty bad either way. I guess the white helmet stripe does look less out-of-place with white on the socks, so there’s that. It looks like you’re right about the originals having more stripes though. In your black & white shot I can see 4 complete stripes and a 5th partial one. In the practice shot, you can only see 3 full stripes plus the partial.

  • concealed78 | October 10, 2009 at 1:28 pm |

    Some of these cap designs are way too detail-heavy for a cap. Double & triple outlines are overkill. Some of these really remind me of the Detroit Lions style logos. My two cents.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”353227″][quote comment=”353222″]See? The white socks really keep the verticals from being so ovewhelming. Plus, I still think there were more stripes (meaning they were narrower) on the originals.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I don’t think the white helps that much. It’s still pretty bad either way. I guess the white helmet stripe does look less out-of-place with white on the socks, so there’s that. It looks like you’re right about the originals having more stripes though. In your black & white shot I can see 4 complete stripes and a 5th partial one. In the practice shot, you can only see 3 full stripes plus the partial.[/quote]

    You’re probably right, although there is a substantial difference in visual impact between having the entire lower leg vertically striped, and only the calf-or-so being striped like that.

    LOL, a little like saying Argyle kneehighs are uglier than Argyle short socks, isn’t it.

    But, as we both noted, it’s gonna be “different” (as well as the first time ever on live TV in COLOR for those unis)…and that’s the fun of all this.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 1:37 pm |

    What I’m saying is, the longer the stripes, the more ghastly they are.

    (wish I’d just said that in the first place, lol)

    —Ricko

  • Chris O | October 10, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    Doug Smith’s Logo is friggin sweet! I love it!

  • denverjason | October 10, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    There are 12 stripes on the originals. http://endzonesports...
    And in the lead video, I count 8 on the throwbacks. http://www.denverbro...

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    Anybody watching the Auburn vs. Arkansas football game, any Tigers/War Eagle fans out there? I wish Auburn would return to the orange face masks of the Lionel James era(mid 1980s). Outside of Illinois, I don’t know of another D1 school which used orange face masks at the moment.

  • scott | October 10, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    Any early contender for best looking college football game today is Iowa State at Kansas.

  • RyanH | October 10, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    I really enjoyed Sam Stuber’s submission.. great work by all!

  • Shaggy | October 10, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    Just caught a few minutes of Sky Sports on Fox Soccer Channel and the announcer was recapping a rugby titlt between Edinburgh and Stade Francais. He described the Stade uniforms as “an explosion in a paint factory.” Here they are for your horrifying enjoyment: http://boutique.stad... And the recap with an in match picture: http://www.telegraph...

  • Nathan | October 10, 2009 at 2:41 pm |

    I like vincent hecker’s design the best. Modern, but not too crazy. i also like dan grieve’s blue alt.

  • david | October 10, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    R. Scott Rogers has the best design hands down. Original, Simple, and Sharp. Great job! Hope yours gets picked!

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”353234″]Any early contender for best looking college football game today is Iowa State at Kansas.[/quote]

    Gotta disagree with that one. I think Kansas should replace the boring KU on the helmet with a huge Jayhawk, the way their helmets used to look. I also feel Iowa State has downgraded their look by trying to imitate USC. The Cyclones should either return to their yellow helmets of the Dexter Green or Troy Daviis eras.

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    I nominate the President’s Cup uni’s as worst matchup.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”353239″][quote comment=”353234″]Any early contender for best looking college football game today is Iowa State at Kansas.[/quote]

    Gotta disagree with that one. I think Kansas should replace the boring KU on the helmet with a huge Jayhawk, the way their helmets used to look. I also feel Iowa State has downgraded their look by trying to imitate USC. The Cyclones should either return to their yellow helmets of the Dexter Green or Troy Daviis eras.[/quote]

    I don’t think JimV considers what a uniform ought to be, just how the whole game looks…how the unis work together. That kind of thing.

    Cuz I was thinking that the KU-Iowa State looked pretty good. But I do agree with you about the Cyclones. Looked better when they wore something distinctly their own. The gold helmet, crimson jersey, white pants era, for example.

    —Ricko

  • Ray | October 10, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    Alabama vs. Ole Miss for best looking college football matchup

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    Ole Miss-Alabama?
    Sitting here remembering a game where Archie Manning and Scott Hunter absolutely lit things up.

    But–and it’s good to have teams that don’t change (and just as good to have teams that do, too)–the unis are pretty much the same today.

    That classic game almost 40 years ago was at Alabama, though.

    —Ricko

  • rpm | October 10, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    love the nationals sans cap letters. death to elitist capital letters.

    prudlonator~ simple, awestastic
    wisniewlok/dough smith~props for drawing it out, you win in my book, clever too, web tools suck.

    then again, how can you not give it up for the chicago schizophrenic classic wesley willis who despite death evidently resides in alabama. who knew? among other classics. best random name since jesco white!!!

  • Patrick in MI | October 10, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”353215″][quote comment=”353210″]

    Anyone else here collect gumball helmets? I’m willing to trade my doubles. Anxious to see the new gumballs for Jax.[/quote]

    Do they even still make those things? I haven’t seen any non-custom gumball helmets in a few years. I’ve got the 28 teams from 1981, but they haven’t really aged well.. stickers peeling and whatnot.

    I think the Riddell Pocket Pro helmets are cooler now, if a little more expensive.[/quote]

    Well I guess they’re Riddell Pocket Pro. I just call them gumballs cuz that’s where I buy them, from the machines at the grocery store lobby. I don’t like the old ones, facemasks never stayed on and the helmets were kind of squarish.

  • Chris | October 10, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    Oregon is looking pretty sharp in green – white – green

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    The Ohio State NuOSP are way too small.

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”353247″]The Ohio State NuOSP are way too small.[/quote]

    I mean TV numbers. (Should have consulted UniWatch Glossary prior to opining).

  • mary | October 10, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    Some cool Angels Uni pics here….

    http://www.latimes.c...

    Never saw the sleeveless look on them before

  • rpm | October 10, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”353248″][quote comment=”353247″]The Ohio State NuOSP are way too small.[/quote]

    I mean TV numbers. (Should have consulted UniWatch Glossary prior to opining).[/quote]

    as an alum, the biggest problem with Tosu has always been the jersey, and the biggest problem with the jersey in general has always been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to big tv numbers. really? bigger? you watching on mars?!!!!? you want the archie era, or the greg fry era bullshit? yes? i hope you trip and fall, and bruise something non critical…like your nuts. aaaaaaaaah. ba-dum-dum.

    all red jersey, grey numbers, done. need to get funky? put a black stroke on the numbers. done. done. done.

    off to st louis, buh.

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 4:57 pm |

    Alabama/Ole Miss is indeed a good uni match. Buckeyes/Badgers works for me too. Pitt/UConn is not good, but Navy and Rice is pretty tight. Only complaint with Rice is that their distinctive Old English SNOF is marred by the swoosh.

  • anotherguy | October 10, 2009 at 5:06 pm |

    Wow Ricko; enjoying the evening with #4, eh?

    That’s okay. I was in a group once and we were discussing how the group had an average of one divorce per man: brought up to that point by one person who was on wife #5 (and he was in his early 40’s at the time).

    Oh wait: we’re talking about Brett Farve?

    Never mind.

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 5:06 pm |

    Not uniform related but definitely interesting look at effective logodesign

  • Aaron | October 10, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    KU vs. Iowa State’s the best uni matchup, no question.

    Oh, and ISU’s new unis look almost NOTHING like USC’s, they just have similar colors…you can complain about their resemblance to Ole Miss (or any other of Nike’s generic half-striped teams) if you want, but the USC comparison’s not even close.

    Also, KU should ditch their stupid new Trajan font and go back to the old-school/Western-style script they used for decades previously.

  • anotherguy | October 10, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    BTW, can I wish for a “reverse” of the top uni-matchup for colleges?

    It was Georgia at Tennessee today, but I am much more taken with Georgia’s home togs. If this game was in Athens I’d vote for it among my top five.

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”353253″]Not uniform related but definitely interesting look at effective logodesign [/quote]
    Try that again:

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 5:12 pm |

    Aww never mind.

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”353239″][quote comment=”353234″]Any early contender for best looking college football game today is Iowa State at Kansas.[/quote]

    Gotta disagree with that one. I think Kansas should replace the boring KU on the helmet with a huge Jayhawk, the way their helmets used to look. I also feel Iowa State has downgraded their look by trying to imitate USC. The Cyclones should either return to their yellow helmets of the Dexter Green or Troy Daviis eras.[/quote]

    The Jayhawk definitely gave the blue helmet a good look. Sometimes I wonder why schools go away from very popular uni elements like the Jayhawk. In a sports world full of red white and blue uni’s a name and mascot like the Jayhawk should be a point of emphasis.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | October 10, 2009 at 5:25 pm |

    Wow! Fantastic job gentlemen! It’s hard to pick a favorite.

  • Daniel Carroll | October 10, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    I didn’t know that our statements were going to go up too, so I didn’t really write one….

    For the sake of saying what was in my head, I tried to combine the script style of the regular Sartell home jersey with the Pirates-inspired notched style of the blue alternate.

  • Chris | October 10, 2009 at 5:36 pm |

    Here’s a good pic. Its a white jersey, but the way it’s being pulled you can really see the design of the new Nike jerseys…where if it were color the sweatboxes would be forming.

    http://espn.go.com/n...

  • Jeff P(udlo) | October 10, 2009 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”353260″]I didn’t know that our statements were going to go up too, so I didn’t really write one….
    [/quote]

    Same here. I would have written one otherwise.

    Basically, I had had thought about trying a new type of two tone hat before, with front panel and bill one color and body another. I’m not great at logo design, so I just made up a blue jays style letter in a somewhat blocky shape- taking a little inspiration from the shape of the western style letters suggested in the original post. I didn’t use those because I thought it would look a bit off for a team in the midwest.

    Basically, a two tone logo to go with a two tone hat.

    Anyway, there are a lot of great submissions. Really a great job by everybody.

  • LI Phil | October 10, 2009 at 6:00 pm |

    hey ev’vybody…

    thanks (so far) for your best uni matchups .. need a few more nominees (pics appreciated too ;) )

    jimmy vilkmeister advised me of the FAMU/Miama matchup…could be out worst of…other nominees being accepted

    cheers, PH

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”353261″]Here’s a good pic. Its a white jersey, but the way it’s being pulled you can really see the design of the new Nike jerseys…where if it were color the sweatboxes would be forming.

    http://espn.go.com/n...
    Good catch.
    Now IF the Ducks had Kelly Green in place of that green,and if the helmet was less glittery and more glossy, and if the numbers looked like they belonged on football uniforms – that would be a sweet uni matchup with the Bruins.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 6:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”353263″]hey ev’vybody…

    thanks (so far) for your best uni matchups .. need a few more nominees (pics appreciated too ;) )

    jimmy vilkmeister advised me of the FAMU/Miama matchup…could be out worst of…other nominees being accepted

    cheers, PH[/quote]

    FAMU/Miami? Virtually any combination will look like a big garden salad.

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”353265″][quote comment=”353263″]hey ev’vybody…

    thanks (so far) for your best uni matchups .. need a few more nominees (pics appreciated too ;) )

    jimmy vilkmeister advised me of the FAMU/Miama matchup…could be out worst of…other nominees being accepted

    cheers, PH[/quote]

    FAMU/Miami? Virtually any combination will look like a big garden salad.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Fiesta Garden Salad!

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 6:09 pm |

    Or maybe succotash, I just realized.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm |

    …with baby onions (cuz one of ’em will be in white).

  • Daniel Carroll | October 10, 2009 at 6:10 pm |

    Epstein 1 is pretty amazing, though I haven’t been able to get them all to load (Uniwatch is a killer on dialup). I’m not sure I like it as a cap logo only, but I would love to see used as part of a whole uniform.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”353269″]Epstein 1 is pretty amazing, though I haven’t been able to get them all to load (Uniwatch is a killer on dialup). I’m not sure I like it as a cap logo only, but I would love to see used as part of a whole uniform.[/quote]

    Kinda leaning toward that one, too. But, man, it’s a tough call.

    —Ricko

  • Daniel | October 10, 2009 at 6:16 pm |
  • mtjaws | October 10, 2009 at 6:16 pm |

    Excellent designs! I most like the fencing S design of R. Scott Rogers, but think it needs something to make the blade connect to the S. It looks like it is oddly hovering over the “hand”.

    Joseph Baker’s “sabre locked in hip holster” is my other fave. Spacing is great since it looks like the blade is held in by that angled corner.

  • Traxel | October 10, 2009 at 6:20 pm |

    Buckeyes need larger TV numbers, RPM. After being large, going small looks wimpy dinky. Not an alum, just an unbias opin. Like the old gray sleeve stripes better too.

    Best unimatchup of the day: Cards/Dodgers. They look classicly sharp.

  • Chris | October 10, 2009 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”353264″][quote comment=”353261″]Here’s a good pic. Its a white jersey, but the way it’s being pulled you can really see the design of the new Nike jerseys…where if it were color the sweatboxes would be forming.

    http://espn.go.com/n...
    Good catch.
    Now IF the Ducks had Kelly Green in place of that green,and if the helmet was less glittery and more glossy, and if the numbers looked like they belonged on football uniforms – that would be a sweet uni matchup with the Bruins.[/quote]

    I remember when those helmets first came out in the late 90s. The green and shine are that way supposedly to resemble the green on a mallard duck.

  • Ry Co 40 | October 10, 2009 at 6:26 pm |

    great entries! really quick, my favorites are:

    sam stuber

    jeff bahry’s old school

    eric davilla (awesome logo, would look even better as a sleeve patch)

    dan grieve’s non-alts

    jason epstein (concept 2)

    and something about jeff pudlo’s simple design is really cool too…

    fun contest though! everyone did a really nice job!

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 6:29 pm |

    Speaking of Archie Manning (as I was, and they have been during the Ole Miss-Bama game), I just found this photo. A good look at the odd helmet and single bar facemask he went with during one of his early seasons with the Saints.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 6:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”353254″]KU vs. Iowa State’s the best uni matchup, no question.

    Oh, and ISU’s new unis look almost NOTHING like USC’s, they just have similar colors…you can complain about their resemblance to Ole Miss (or any other of Nike’s generic half-striped teams) if you want, but the USC comparison’s not even close.

    Also, KU should ditch their stupid new Trajan font and go back to the old-school/Western-style script they used for decades previously.[/quote]

    The USC comparison is valid, because you never want to copy portions of another well known uniform. The road uniform is a little better since the pants are red, but ISU’s home pants are identical. Yes, the shoulder striping is slightly different, but then the helmet now looks just like USC from a distance. The logo itself is fine, but the uniform, especially the home design is just uninspired. Whenever the Cyclones play at home, it just looks like USC from a distance and that’s a mistake. The previous uniforms were better, and the yellow helmet was the best look of all.

  • Traxel | October 10, 2009 at 7:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”353276″]Speaking of Archie Manning (as I was, and they have been during the Ole Miss-Bama game), I just found this photo. A good look at the odd helmet and single bar facemask he went with during one of his early seasons with the Saints.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That jersey sleeve striping didn’t have the top gold stripe either…

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 7:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”353278″][quote comment=”353276″]Speaking of Archie Manning (as I was, and they have been during the Ole Miss-Bama game), I just found this photo. A good look at the odd helmet and single bar facemask he went with during one of his early seasons with the Saints.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That jersey sleeve striping didn’t have the top gold stripe either…[/quote]

    Actually, the bottom black stripe is cut off. The pattern on that set had three black and two gold.

    —Ricko

  • Parrish | October 10, 2009 at 7:30 pm |

    I’m nominating Texas-Colorado for best uni matchup this weekend. Clear palette, nothing too wacky on either set, and clear delineation between the two at all points. Worst look is easily Northern Iowa v. North Dakota State. Each team looks bad on their own; next to each other it’s awful. Lots of green, lots of purple.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 7:38 pm |

    Acutally, I miss the bigass Ohio State TV numbers. Good-looking or bad-looking they’d become something of a tradition. Going as far back as Archie Griffin.
    http://archiegriffin...

    (Also miss when some of the players—Griffin, Cornelius Greene and Pete Johnson, to name three—wore red shoes).

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”353281″]Acutally, I miss the bigass Ohio State TV numbers. Good-looking or bad-looking they’d become something of a tradition. Going as far back as Archie Griffin.
    http://archiegriffin...

    (Also miss when some of the players—Griffin, Cornelius Greene and Pete Johnson, to name three—wore red shoes).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Come to think of it, those white Michigan pants weren’t half-bad, either. Would look like shit thesedays, though, with the black socks they wear.

  • M.Princip | October 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”353246″]Oregon is looking pretty sharp in green – white – green[/quote]

    ………and keep winning convincingly; 24 to 10 over UCLA. Let me tell ya, they’re really fun to watch this year. Much needed medicine to what looks like another crappy season for the Seahawks. We’ll see, they’ve got their work cut out for them tomorrow against the Jags?

  • Helmets Match Pants | October 10, 2009 at 7:45 pm |

    There is no way Kansas can ever be in any best uniform ranking with that horrible font.

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”353282″][quote comment=”353281″]Acutally, I miss the bigass Ohio State TV numbers. Good-looking or bad-looking they’d become something of a tradition. Going as far back as Archie Griffin.
    http://archiegriffin...

    (Also miss when some of the players—Griffin, Cornelius Greene and Pete Johnson, to name three—wore red shoes).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Come to think of it, those white Michigan pants weren’t half-bad, either. Would look like shit thesedays, though, with the black socks they wear.[/quote]

    Speaking of shit, those road white Michigan jerseys with the wandering yellow stripes would be just that. At least they didn’t fuck up the home Michigan jerseys as well.

  • Helmets Match Pants | October 10, 2009 at 7:46 pm |

    Oregon looked great today, but not nearly as good as they looked with the white helmets, green jerseys, and gray pants. That uniform was one of the best ever worn on the college gridiron.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 7:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”353284″]There is no way Kansas can ever be in any best uniform ranking with that horrible font.[/quote]

    ‘cept if they had typical block numbers everyone would rip them for “imitating the Giants.”

    Like the results or not, I’ll give ’em credit for “bending” the look a little in an attempt to make it more their own.

    Basketball team wears pretty much the same numerals, right? Some points for that consistency.

    —-Ricko

  • M.Princip | October 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”353286″]Oregon looked great today, but not nearly as good as they looked with the white helmets, green jerseys, and gray pants. That uniform was one of the best ever worn on the college gridiron.[/quote]

    I 100% absolutely agree. Pearlesque finished white helmets with evergreen jersey, and matte gray pants, badass!

  • Chris | October 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”353286″]Oregon looked great today, but not nearly as good as they looked with the white helmets, green jerseys, and gray pants. That uniform was one of the best ever worn on the college gridiron.[/quote]

    The best Oregon look is still the ‘stormtrooper’

    White from head to toe. Even though there is less white with the wings this year, it still looks cool all white.

  • Aaron | October 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm |

    Ricko-

    A few years ago the university FORCED all KU athletic teams to switch to a standardized (read: NY Giants) shade of blue and that HORRIFIC font -it’s called “Trajan”- on all jerseys and most merchandise.

    Prior to that, the football team had gorgeous, navy-and-white uniforms with classic block letters and numerals (inspired by Coach Mangino’s years on staff at Oklahoma).

    The men’s basketball team was also forced to abandon their distinctive, Old West-style font for letters and numbers…it was exclusive to KU for years, I believe.

    This ALSO happened around the time KU switched from Nike to adidas -the year before, I think- but it was definitely mandated by the school, not a sponsor/manufacturer.

    The change ALSO coincided with a competition to choose a new, standardized “KU” logo (the long-tail “K” on the current version is meant to evoke the rolling hills on campus in Lawrence.

    Either way, it resulted in significant changes to the uniforms of both of the school’s flagship sports programs…not necessarily positive ones, either.

  • Jordan Sogn | October 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm |

    #59 (DE, LB?)for CU is missing the Buffalo on the right side of his helmet…sorry, no screen grab.

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”353287″][quote comment=”353284″]There is no way Kansas can ever be in any best uniform ranking with that horrible font.[/quote]

    ‘cept if they had typical block numbers everyone would rip them for “imitating the Giants.”

    Like the results or not, I’ll give ’em credit for “bending” the look a little in an attempt to make it more their own.

    Basketball team wears pretty much the same numerals, right? Some points for that consistency.

    —-Ricko[/quote]

    What’s truly baffling to me, is why a university with one of the most recognizable logos in the NCAA, would reduce that logo to a microscopic size on the front of the jersey? If they still wanted to keep the boring KU on the helmet, why not put a larger Jayhawk on the shoulder area or pants? IMO, the best Kansas football uniforms always had the huge Jayhawk on the helmet, whether it was the Gale Sayers era, or the Tony Sands era.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”353290″]Ricko-

    A few years ago the university FORCED all KU athletic teams to switch to a standardized (read: NY Giants) shade of blue and that HORRIFIC font -it’s called “Trajan”- on all jerseys and most merchandise.

    Prior to that, the football team had gorgeous, navy-and-white uniforms with classic block letters and numerals (inspired by Coach Mangino’s years on staff at Oklahoma).

    The men’s basketball team was also forced to abandon their distinctive, Old West-style font for letters and numbers…it was exclusive to KU for years, I believe.

    This ALSO happened around the time KU switched from Nike to adidas -the year before, I think- but it was definitely mandated by the school, not a sponsor/manufacturer.

    The change ALSO coincided with a competition to choose a new, standardized “KU” logo (the long-tail “K” on the current version is meant to evoke the rolling hills on campus in Lawrence.

    Either way, it resulted in significant changes to the uniforms of both of the school’s flagship sports programs…not necessarily positive ones, either.[/quote]

    So they’re “branding”. An argument can be made that more schools should do that. Drove me nuts that until recently the Gopher football and baseball teams wore burgundy, while all the other U of M teams wore maroon.

    On the other side of the KU issue…blue helmets, blue jerseys and silver pants go back as far as Bobby Douglass in the late 60’s. Even a few years before that, in fact. So the white helmet years were, over almost the past half century or so, the aberration, not the norm. And, as I understand it, Kansas blue is royal, not navy.

    Just sayin’, depends on what time frame–and color standards–we apply.

    —Ricko

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”353293″][quote comment=”353290″]Ricko-

    A few years ago the university FORCED all KU athletic teams to switch to a standardized (read: NY Giants) shade of blue and that HORRIFIC font -it’s called “Trajan”- on all jerseys and most merchandise.

    Prior to that, the football team had gorgeous, navy-and-white uniforms with classic block letters and numerals (inspired by Coach Mangino’s years on staff at Oklahoma).

    The men’s basketball team was also forced to abandon their distinctive, Old West-style font for letters and numbers…it was exclusive to KU for years, I believe.

    This ALSO happened around the time KU switched from Nike to adidas -the year before, I think- but it was definitely mandated by the school, not a sponsor/manufacturer.

    The change ALSO coincided with a competition to choose a new, standardized “KU” logo (the long-tail “K” on the current version is meant to evoke the rolling hills on campus in Lawrence.

    Either way, it resulted in significant changes to the uniforms of both of the school’s flagship sports programs…not necessarily positive ones, either.[/quote]

    So they’re “branding”. An argument can be made that more schools should do that. Drove me nuts that until recently the Gopher football and baseball teams wore burgundy, while all the other U of M teams wore maroon.

    On the other side of the KU issue…blue helmets, blue jerseys and silver pants go back as far as Bobby Douglass in the late 60’s. Even a few years before that, in fact. So the white helmet years were, over almost the past half century or so, the aberration, not the norm. And, as I understand it, Kansas blue is royal, not navy.

    Just sayin’, depends on what time frame–and color standards–we apply.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I mentioned Gale Sayers only because I have a dvd with video of him at Kansas, and although it was in black and white, it appeared to be a light blue helmet with a huge Jayhawk affixed. My guess would be the early 1960s with the “Jayhawk” helmet, but maybe we had a KU fan on this blog with more info.

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    http://archiegriffin...

    Luv me some red shoes and big tv numbers!

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    Hmmm…Didn’t realize that Buddy Dial…
    http://xfb.xanga.com...
    …the Steeler who gets the crap scared out of him by the “touchdown cannon” in that vintage B&W NFL highlight, died in March of last year.

    He was always one of my favorites. Excellent player on bad Steeler teams. Caught passes from people like Bobby Layne, Ed Brown and Rudy Bukich.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”353294″][quote comment=”353293″][quote comment=”353290″]Ricko-

    A few years ago the university FORCED all KU athletic teams to switch to a standardized (read: NY Giants) shade of blue and that HORRIFIC font -it’s called “Trajan”- on all jerseys and most merchandise.

    Prior to that, the football team had gorgeous, navy-and-white uniforms with classic block letters and numerals (inspired by Coach Mangino’s years on staff at Oklahoma).

    The men’s basketball team was also forced to abandon their distinctive, Old West-style font for letters and numbers…it was exclusive to KU for years, I believe.

    This ALSO happened around the time KU switched from Nike to adidas -the year before, I think- but it was definitely mandated by the school, not a sponsor/manufacturer.

    The change ALSO coincided with a competition to choose a new, standardized “KU” logo (the long-tail “K” on the current version is meant to evoke the rolling hills on campus in Lawrence.

    Either way, it resulted in significant changes to the uniforms of both of the school’s flagship sports programs…not necessarily positive ones, either.[/quote]

    So they’re “branding”. An argument can be made that more schools should do that. Drove me nuts that until recently the Gopher football and baseball teams wore burgundy, while all the other U of M teams wore maroon.

    On the other side of the KU issue…blue helmets, blue jerseys and silver pants go back as far as Bobby Douglass in the late 60’s. Even a few years before that, in fact. So the white helmet years were, over almost the past half century or so, the aberration, not the norm. And, as I understand it, Kansas blue is royal, not navy.

    Just sayin’, depends on what time frame–and color standards–we apply.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I mentioned Gale Sayers only because I have a dvd with video of him at Kansas, and although it was in black and white, it appeared to be a light blue helmet with a huge Jayhawk affixed. My guess would be the early 1960s with the “Jayhawk” helmet, but maybe we had a KU fan on this blog with more info.[/quote]

    In last 50’s, early 60’s Kansas wore monochrome powder blue at home, with helmet numbers. By the time Sayers got there, they changed the home pants to white and dropped most of the red trim (edged on numbers, primarily). For his senior season, they went to royal helmets and jerseys. That may be when the Jayhawk on the helmet first appeared. Not sure, though.

    Here’s something most people don’t remember. Sayers wore high tops until his senior season, when he switched to lowcuts, those Riddells with the white Snug-Fit’s under the arch.

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 8:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”353294″][quote comment=”353293″][quote comment=”353290″]Ricko-

    A few years ago the university FORCED all KU athletic teams to switch to a standardized (read: NY Giants) shade of blue and that HORRIFIC font -it’s called “Trajan”- on all jerseys and most merchandise.

    Prior to that, the football team had gorgeous, navy-and-white uniforms with classic block letters and numerals (inspired by Coach Mangino’s years on staff at Oklahoma).

    The men’s basketball team was also forced to abandon their distinctive, Old West-style font for letters and numbers…it was exclusive to KU for years, I believe.

    This ALSO happened around the time KU switched from Nike to adidas -the year before, I think- but it was definitely mandated by the school, not a sponsor/manufacturer.

    The change ALSO coincided with a competition to choose a new, standardized “KU” logo (the long-tail “K” on the current version is meant to evoke the rolling hills on campus in Lawrence.

    Either way, it resulted in significant changes to the uniforms of both of the school’s flagship sports programs…not necessarily positive ones, either.[/quote]

    So they’re “branding”. An argument can be made that more schools should do that. Drove me nuts that until recently the Gopher football and baseball teams wore burgundy, while all the other U of M teams wore maroon.

    On the other side of the KU issue…blue helmets, blue jerseys and silver pants go back as far as Bobby Douglass in the late 60’s. Even a few years before that, in fact. So the white helmet years were, over almost the past half century or so, the aberration, not the norm. And, as I understand it, Kansas blue is royal, not navy.

    Just sayin’, depends on what time frame–and color standards–we apply.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I mentioned Gale Sayers only because I have a dvd with video of him at Kansas, and although it was in black and white, it appeared to be a light blue helmet with a huge Jayhawk affixed. My guess would be the early 1960s with the “Jayhawk” helmet, but maybe we had a KU fan on this blog with more info.[/quote]
    I seem to recall the KU helmet being a royal blue that was quite similar to the Denver Broncos’ blue helmets from the 70’s. Definitely showed up lighter than most royal blue jerseys.

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 8:37 pm |

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm |

    helmets always looked a bit dark than jerseys (Giants, Chargers). Same thing happened with powder blue.

    Check this out…scroll down to John Hadl in all-columbia blue.
    http://www.mmbolding...

    —Rick

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 8:40 pm |

    Jayhawk

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 8:44 pm |

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm |

    This from Buddy Dial’s obit. Do Steelers still
    have male cheerleaders?

    After he caught a touchdown pass in a 1962 game, Mr. Dial was startled in the end zone when the Steelers male cheerleaders, called the Ingots, fired a cannon packed with powder seemingly right into Mr. Dial’s face.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 8:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”353300″]helmets always looked a bit dark than jerseys (Giants, Chargers). Same thing happened with powder blue.

    Check this out…scroll down to John Hadl in all-columbia blue.
    http://www.mmbolding...

    —Rick[/quote]

    Having watched that Bluebonnet Bowl Game (and the Oilers at the time, and having looked at lots of photos of both teams at the time, I feel safe saying the teams wore the same color blue.

    The helmet at the top of that website appears to be based on someone’s impression that the blue was more like the Orange Crush Broncos. Wasn’t. Not nearly as dark as the Broncos would wear a few years later. A bit arker than the jerseys it went with, yes, but as I said that was commonplace. Same thing with the Oilers.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 9:01 pm |

    Lighting and different materials can change things. Notice how much darker the helmet of Charlie Tolar (taking the handoff) looks than his jersey. If he were the only figure we saw from that photo we might think the Oilers wore something other than the same powder blue they wore in the 60’s. And we’d be wrong.
    http://static.nfl.co...

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 9:05 pm |

    Even in a color photo, the Oiler helmet looks a bit darker.
    http://www.conigliof...

    Bet few also noticed that even when Chargers wore royal jerseys, their helmets were navy.
    http://www.ibnsports...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm |

    Same thing for the Alouettes…
    http://www.geocities...
    And Giants…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • RobT | October 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm |

    While I’m sure very few, if any people care, the University of Saskatchewan Huskies football team debuted a new “third” jersey last night.

    More from last night in this gallery here.

    For reference, the Huskies wear this (front),(back) at home normally.

    They wear this (front), (back) on the road.

    Since its easier to simply link this thread than to show pics, this is a good smattering of the different CIS football jerseys in use in Canada.

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”353308″]While I’m sure very few, if any people care, the University of Saskatchewan Huskies football team debuted a new “third” jersey last night.

    More from last night in this gallery here.

    For reference, the Huskies wear this (front),(back) at home normally.

    They wear this (front), (back) on the road.

    Since its easier to simply link this thread than to show pics, this is a good smattering of the different CIS football jerseys in use in Canada.[/quote]

    Hey, do you know why the CBC does not broadcast CIS games? I realize hockey is the number one sport, but I don’t understand why they could not cover one game per week. Is curling that much more popular than football? I think broadcasting those games would add interest to the CFL as well.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 9:27 pm |

    Fun photo.
    1965 Playboy All-America offensive team.
    http://www.playboy.c...
    Notice how bright the blue is on the Ole Miss helmet (sitting on bench).

    (Personally, Iowa can go back to something resembling that look any time, as far as I’m concerned…not wild about the helmet striping, though, a single black stripe would be better, maybe).

    —Ricko

  • Matt Cunningham | October 10, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    Best matchup: Iowa and Michigan, under the lights.

  • Ric | October 10, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    Anyone know what’s up with the sticker on the top of the Iowa helmets?

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”353312″]Anyone know what’s up with the sticker on the top of the Iowa helmets?[/quote]

    Just in case you don’t know, that’s kinda becoming a running joke around here cuz the question gets asked a lot. But it’s…
    A N F
    America Needs Farmers
    And now you know, too. :)

    (Okay, I’ve answered it two weeks in a row. Next week Gusto or Phil or someone handle it).

  • Ric | October 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”353313″][quote comment=”353312″]Anyone know what’s up with the sticker on the top of the Iowa helmets?[/quote]

    Just in case you don’t know, that’s kinda becoming a running joke around here cuz the question gets asked a lot. But it’s…
    A N F
    America Needs Farmers
    And now you know, too. :)

    (Okay, I’ve answered it two weeks in a row. Next week Gusto or Phil or someone handle it).[/quote]

    Thanks Ricko… I haven’t slogged through the comments enough lately.

  • leon | October 10, 2009 at 9:44 pm |

    http://www.playboy.c...

    Recognize Floyd Little 44
    Is 31 Jim Grabowski?
    Is 47 Howard Twilley?
    Are those 3 players from Iowa? 3 of 11 All Americans from Iowa?

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”353296″]Hmmm…Didn’t realize that Buddy Dial…
    http://xfb.xanga.com...
    …the Steeler who gets the crap scared out of him by the “touchdown cannon” in that vintage B&W NFL highlight, died in March of last year.

    He was always one of my favorites. Excellent player on bad Steeler teams. Caught passes from people like Bobby Layne, Ed Brown and Rudy Bukich.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You’re right, Dial was a terrific player, but injuries curtailed his effectiveness after being traded to Dallas from 1964-66. I’m sure Don Meredith could have used a healthy Dial against those Packer teams. During his Pittsburgh career, 1959-63, the Steelers were actually a decent team 33-28-5, with three winning seasons out of five.
    The 1962 club earned the Steelers only their second postseason appearance since 1947, and would be the last until 1972. That was the Playoff Bowl team with Bobby Layne,John Henry Johnson, and Gene Lipscomb. They finished second to the Giants with a 9-5 record, and lost a key game to New York when receiver Gary Ballman fumbled in the open field when he was headed for a tying score.
    In 1963, the Steelers finished 7-4-3, but the losing seasons returned until 1972.

  • DJ | October 10, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    And, as I understand it, Kansas blue is royal, not navy.

    When Kansas chose their university colors, they went for “Harvard crimson” and “Yale blue.” For their athletic teams, they seem to have gone with lighter shades (the University finally adopted these lighter shades as part of the branding process).

  • Kek | October 10, 2009 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”353199″]Hey Pretty Boy,
    Why not just flip the Expos logo?
    An “M” upside down is a “W”.[/quote]
    I was really hoping for this to be their look when the moved to DC but when I saw the mayor in the press conference announcing a team would come back, he was wearing the then-throwback Senators cap.

    I actually think it’s a great cap, I own a red adjustable one and the navy road one is on my listed of 5950s I’d like to get. (I also think the road gray WASHINGTON jersey is one of the most underrated looks in MLB).

    But I LOVED the old Expos cap. They could have the solid blue and then do a Sunday special that could be the old beach ball cap.

    I would love to see those mocked up.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”353317″] And, as I understand it, Kansas blue is royal, not navy.

    When Kansas chose their university colors, they went for “Harvard crimson” and “Yale blue.” For their athletic teams, they seem to have gone with lighter shades (the University finally adopted these lighter shades as part of the branding process).[/quote]

    Well, until lately, Yale’s football jerseys have been royal, going back to the 50’s at least.

    So, who knows what’s what.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm |

    Iowa sticker…
    http://fryfest.com/w...

  • Kek | October 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”353263″]hey ev’vybody…

    thanks (so far) for your best uni matchups .. need a few more nominees (pics appreciated too ;) )

    jimmy vilkmeister advised me of the FAMU/Miama matchup…could be out worst of…other nominees being accepted
    I watched that game on ESPN360 and it wasn’t that bad. The U went green and FAMU’s road whites are kind of tame considering other looks they’ve used:

    http://www.flickr.co...
    cheers, PH[/quote]

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 10:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”353315″]http://www.playboy.com/on-campus/allamerica/football/pics/1965a.jpg

    Recognize Floyd Little 44
    Is 31 Jim Grabowski?
    Is 47 Howard Twilley?
    Are those 3 players from Iowa? 3 of 11 All Americans from Iowa?[/quote]

    No cutline with photo, but…
    31 is Grabowski.
    47 is Nick Eddy, Notre Dame RB.
    Don’t remember the Iowa lineman, but 12 is QB Gary Snook and 19 is WR Karl Noonan (later of the Dolphins and holder for Garo Yepremian).
    Coach is Jerry Burns, also Iowa.
    Don’t know the TE, but pretty sure he’s from Kentucky.
    63 might be…Jim Snowden, maybe? Notre Dame.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 10:43 pm |

    Iowa lineman might be John Niland.
    Center could Alabama’s Paul Crane, maybe?

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 10:46 pm |

    Found the cutline. Not Jim Snowden. Sorry.
    OFFENSIVE TEAM:
    Front row: Paul Crane, center (Alabama); Jerry Burns, Coach of the Year (Iowa).
    Second row: Karl Noonan, end (Iowa); George Rice, tackle (Louisiana State); Stan Hindman, guard (Mississippi); Dick Arrington, guard (Notre Dame); John Niland, tackle (Iowa); Rick Kestner, end (Kentucky).
    Third row: Nick Eddy, halfback (Notre Dame); Gary Snook, quarterback (Iowa); Floyd Little, halfback (Syracuse).
    Rear: Jim Grabowski, fullback (Illinois).

    —Ricko

  • Gusto44 | October 10, 2009 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”353324″]Found the cutline. Not Jim Snowden. Sorry.
    OFFENSIVE TEAM:
    Front row: Paul Crane, center (Alabama); Jerry Burns, Coach of the Year (Iowa).
    Second row: Karl Noonan, end (Iowa); George Rice, tackle (Louisiana State); Stan Hindman, guard (Mississippi); Dick Arrington, guard (Notre Dame); John Niland, tackle (Iowa); Rick Kestner, end (Kentucky).
    Third row: Nick Eddy, halfback (Notre Dame); Gary Snook, quarterback (Iowa); Floyd Little, halfback (Syracuse).
    Rear: Jim Grabowski, fullback (Illinois).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Did a little research, and was surprised to discover despite those three preseason all-americans and coach, Iowa finished 1965 with a terrible 1-9 record. Those ’65 uniforms are sharp though, Iowa should try something original along those lines.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 11:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”353325″][quote comment=”353324″]Found the cutline. Not Jim Snowden. Sorry.
    OFFENSIVE TEAM:
    Front row: Paul Crane, center (Alabama); Jerry Burns, Coach of the Year (Iowa).
    Second row: Karl Noonan, end (Iowa); George Rice, tackle (Louisiana State); Stan Hindman, guard (Mississippi); Dick Arrington, guard (Notre Dame); John Niland, tackle (Iowa); Rick Kestner, end (Kentucky).
    Third row: Nick Eddy, halfback (Notre Dame); Gary Snook, quarterback (Iowa); Floyd Little, halfback (Syracuse).
    Rear: Jim Grabowski, fullback (Illinois).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Did a little research, and was surprised to discover despite those three preseason all-americans and coach, Iowa finished 1965 with a terrible 1-9 record. Those ’65 uniforms are sharp though, Iowa should try something original along those lines.[/quote]

    Yup, Iowa had been a powerhouse in late 50’s and early 60’s, and through ’64 was still surviving on the vestiges of Evashevski years. Remember that ’65 season well. Snook was a major bust after a better-than-good-but-not-great season in ’64, and Iowa never really recovered until Hayden Fry got there.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 11:12 pm |

    Also, Anson Mount, who was Playboy’s football “expert” was notorious for going against the grain and picking a longshot for the national title. He was almost always wrong.

    Many suggested his picks were based on how big a “party school” the team represented. And sometimes it looked like that’s was EXACTLY what he was doing. He never, for example, pick Ohio State to do anything, quite possibly because Woody Hayes forbid his players from going to a Playboy photo shoot.

    Evidently Woody wasn’t exactly pro-sex. Although, if he thought his players all were virgins, it might have been a sign he was out of touch and losing it long before he tried to hand-garrot on that Clemson player.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 11:16 pm |

    Gee, those piss stripes on Michigan’s road jerseys are stupid.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 11:36 pm |

    Oregon’s pants aren’t even close to the same color green as the helmets. They’re moss green, not forest/emerald green. Gives them sort of a “swamp” look.

    Not saying they looked bad, just that it’s just more of Nike’e Ever Expanding Oregon Color Scheme.

    School colors ARE still green and yellow, right?
    Just making sure.

    —Rick

  • Taxman | October 10, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”353329″]Oregon’s pants aren’t even close to the same color green as the helmets. They’re moss green, not forest/emerald green. Gives them sort of a “swamp” look.

    Not saying they looked bad, just that it’s just more of Nike’e Ever Expanding Oregon Color Scheme.

    School colors ARE still green and yellow, right?
    Just making sure.

    —Rick[/quote]
    Ricko, I couldn’t agree more. I am a big proponent of school colors. Notice how we could name the schools in the ’65 Playboy pic? School colors! My biggest gripe w/ the Nike Duck suits is the liberty they take with colors.

    As for the UM piss stripes. I would sooner see adidas or whoever put a big corporate logo on the “classic” college unis than to see them pissed on with random meandering stripes.

  • Ricko | October 10, 2009 at 11:51 pm |

    ESPN billboards every weekend in college football.

    What was this one, “Nondescript Saturday”, maybe? Even the big matchup games weren’t very exciting (meaning close; if you’re a Hokie fan probably was exciting as hell).

    —Ricko

  • David | October 10, 2009 at 11:51 pm |

    I’m a WVU fan, but I really, REALLY like Pitt’s home uniforms. I guess they are logo-heavy (Big East, Swoosh, and school), but good colors, no frills design …. very nice.

    http://scores.espn.g...

  • Ricko | October 11, 2009 at 12:01 am |

    Hey, did I just see Baylor actually looking like Baylor?

    And now I’m heading for bed, but here’s something someone can check. What is those little white things in the purple band at the bottom of the sleeves of TCU’s white jerseys? Are they logos of some sort? Or just a widely spaced T, C and U? Couldn’t tell.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 11, 2009 at 12:08 am |

    Found ’em.
    They’re at the neckline, too.

    Just triangles, apparently.
    http://scores.espn.g...

    —Ricko

  • RobT | October 11, 2009 at 12:18 am |

    [quote comment=”353309″]Hey, do you know why the CBC does not broadcast CIS games? I realize hockey is the number one sport, but I don’t understand why they could not cover one game per week. Is curling that much more popular than football? I think broadcasting those games would add interest to the CFL as well.[/quote]

    CBC French carries a game from Quebec every week. Unfortunately, unlike the CFL, CIS games do not have the following. There are a few teams that draw well, but only Laval gets close to CFL sized crowds.

    I also think the English CBC could careless about amateur football. They don’t broadcast the CFL, so the CIS is an afterthought. However, TSN has finally picked up CIS football again and The Score has been showing games for years now, so the game is growing.

    CBC does hold a license to launch an amateur sports channel. So perhaps they will show CIS games on it, but I fear the channel would be nothing more than an extended version of CBC Sports Saturday (i.e. Olympic sports only).

    To answer your other question, curling isn’t that much more popular. In fact, CBC doesn’t carry curling either. TSN is the exclusive home to curling throughout the year.

  • Ray | October 11, 2009 at 12:28 am |

    What about this Uni matchup. The green and red I feel go pretty well together.
    http://www.deseretne...

  • bob | October 11, 2009 at 12:43 am |

    http://www.lsusports...

    LSU retired three new jerseys this year. Ceremony for Tommy Casanova’s 37 was tonight against Floridal.

  • Gusto44 | October 11, 2009 at 12:59 am |

    [quote comment=”353335″][quote comment=”353309″]Hey, do you know why the CBC does not broadcast CIS games? I realize hockey is the number one sport, but I don’t understand why they could not cover one game per week. Is curling that much more popular than football? I think broadcasting those games would add interest to the CFL as well.[/quote]

    CBC French carries a game from Quebec every week. Unfortunately, unlike the CFL, CIS games do not have the following. There are a few teams that draw well, but only Laval gets close to CFL sized crowds.

    I also think the English CBC could careless about amateur football. They don’t broadcast the CFL, so the CIS is an afterthought. However, TSN has finally picked up CIS football again and The Score has been showing games for years now, so the game is growing.

    CBC does hold a license to launch an amateur sports channel. So perhaps they will show CIS games on it, but I fear the channel would be nothing more than an extended version of CBC Sports Saturday (i.e. Olympic sports only).

    To answer your other question, curling isn’t that much more popular. In fact, CBC doesn’t carry curling either. TSN is the exclusive home to curling throughout the year.[/quote]

    Thanks, I forgot the CBC lost the CFL, I’ll need to get a dish someday to pick up TSN.

  • Greenie | October 11, 2009 at 1:09 am |

    Best uni matchups of the weekend. (of which they had pictures on espn.com)

    1 – Florida @ LSU – although I am a little biased, I was at the game.
    http://scores.espn.g...

    2 – Iowa State @ Kansas
    http://scores.espn.g...

    3 – Navy @ Rice
    http://scores.espn.g...

    4 – Oregon @ UCLA – forgive me, but I do like that particular combo for the Ducks.
    http://scores.espn.g...

    5 – Texas Southern @ Rutgers – my wildcard, I love the Texas Southern fat helmet stripes
    http://scores.espn.g...

    Worst of the Week – Florida A&M @ Miami (FL) – way too much green & orange.
    http://scores.espn.g...

  • JTH | October 11, 2009 at 1:37 am |

    [quote comment=”353339″]Best uni matchups of the weekend. (of which they had pictures on espn.com)

    1 – Florida @ LSU – although I am a little biased, I was at the game.
    http://scores.espn.g...
    GAH!

    I don’t know if that would make the top 5 list if we narrowed things down so that only games featuring Florida-based schools were eligible.

    It doesn’t beat this, just to name one.

  • Greenie | October 11, 2009 at 1:47 am |

    [quote comment=”353340″][quote comment=”353339″]Best uni matchups of the weekend. (of which they had pictures on espn.com)

    1 – Florida @ LSU – although I am a little biased, I was at the game.
    http://scores.espn.g...
    GAH!

    I don’t know if that would make the top 5 list if we narrowed things down so that only games featuring Florida-based schools were eligible.

    It doesn’t beat this, just to name one.[/quote]

    I don’t care for Georgia Tech’s shoulder crap, but that’s just my opinion.

    “Opinions are like assholes. Everybody’s got one and nobody gives a shit about yours.”

  • IdahoDuckFan | October 11, 2009 at 3:15 am |

    Gotta suggest Yale – Dartmouth as a classy set of unis.

    http://scores.espn.g...

    Then SMU looked classic today, but the pairing of their red and ECU’s purple pit stain look, made it one of the worst on field combos of the day.

  • Teebz | October 11, 2009 at 4:02 am |

    [quote comment=”353309″][quote comment=”353308″]While I’m sure very few, if any people care, the University of Saskatchewan Huskies football team debuted a new “third” jersey last night.

    More from last night in this gallery here.

    For reference, the Huskies wear this (front),(back) at home normally.

    They wear this (front), (back) on the road.

    Since its easier to simply link this thread than to show pics, this is a good smattering of the different CIS football jerseys in use in Canada.[/quote]

    Hey, do you know why the CBC does not broadcast CIS games? I realize hockey is the number one sport, but I don’t understand why they could not cover one game per week. Is curling that much more popular than football? I think broadcasting those games would add interest to the CFL as well.[/quote]

    The Score has OAU football covered. Local stations usually cut deals with the local football programs. Shaw Television, for example, covers Canada West fairly heavily.

    TSN carries the Vanier Cup, however.

  • The Hemogoblin | October 11, 2009 at 7:43 pm |

    Sam Stuber’s entry is my favorite. I donno about the rest of y’all.