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In Which a Random Ticker Item Leads to a Full-Blown History Mystery

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I recently Ticker-linked to this 1972 photo of an odd Padres cap, with a particularly wide-spanning yellow panel. That item has now prompted some interesting responses — let’s take a look:

• First, several readers have pointed out that the same cap can be seen in this card (and most of them pointed out the huge crowd in the background)k. Y’know, I’ve looked at that card a few jillion times over the years and never noticed the unusual cap.

• Richard Craig has generously scanned a bunch of photos of Padres players wearing the wide-span cap. Most of those are head shots from a ’72 program, plus he also found one action shot. “The player shots include some amazingly unmemorable Padres (including Enzo Hernandez, he of the lifetime OPS of .550 in more than 2600 plate appearances),” Richard notes.

• The most intriguing communiqué comes Robert Walker. “That cap was only used in ’72, only on Sundays, and (from what I have found) only for home games.”

That’s a bit of an eyebrow-raiser. A Sunday-specific cap way back in 1972? I thought the notion of specific uni elements for specific days was a much more modern phenomenon. So I wrote back to Robert: “Were you aware of this at the time, or is it something you’ve become aware of more recently? Is this well-known among Padres fans?” Here’s his response:

I’ve known of the alternate “Zimmer” cap for a while, and somewhere along the line I read about it being a Sunday special. Not too many fans know about this, as there aren’t too many “hardcore” fans like me. I don’t have much in terms of photo evidence besides old Topps cards. But all the photos of the cap that I have seen are from day games, and the only day games in San Diego at the time were Sunday and the occasional “Businessman Special” on Thursday.

After wearing the wide-span chevron cap for Sundays in 1972, the team introduced the tamed-down chevron design as their primary cap in 1973. That cap was used until 1979.

Hmmmm. Hey, Richard Craig, were you aware of this Sundays-in-’72 thing? “Nope, but I was only seven years old at the time,” he says. “All I knew was that they were funny-looking caps, especially in comparison with the later, more minimal front panel. Of course, every aspect of those uniforms was funny looking, even to a kid who didn’t know any different. It all just contributed to our long-held civic inferiority complex about the Padres.”

Can anyone else confirm or refute the Sunday protocol? Does anyone know of any other MLB cap designs that featured wide-span front panels? And did the change in the front panel from ’72 to ’73 reflect a change in cap manufacturers? All subjects for further study.

Finally, one other item regarding the early-’70s Padres: When Richard Craig was scanning those cap photos, he also came across this shot of the team’s proposed Washington uni design. “I’ve read that the team colors would have been purple and gold,” he writes — yikes.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Lots of very cool varsity jackets available on eBay — look here, here, here, here (I really like that one!), here, here (unusual color, great details), here, and here. … And while searching on “varsity,” I came across this very cool-looking game. … Nate Robinson has apparently changed his uni number from 4 to 2 (with thanks to Steve King). … Good time-lapse video of the NLDS logo being applied to the Dodger Stadium field here (with thanks to Dan Cichalski). … Shawn Dzwonkowski has scanned a bunch of pages from an old Sheboygan Red Skins media guide. … My Page 2 colleague Kurt Snibbe created this alternate NFL logos the other day. It took Bill Jones about 24 hours to gumball-ize them. … Didn’t realize Visa was now sponsoring the Niners’ practice jerseys. Fuckers (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). … Hey, look what happens if you cross a horse with the Batmobile! Actually, that’s a horse training system (thanks, Kirsten). … Oooh, you know I like this. “I stumbled across it in Reminisce, a nostalgia magazine aimed at the AARP demographic,” says Jerry Adams. “I left the caption on, although it appears that nobody really knows what school this is.” … Not uni-related, but this home-movie clip of San Francisco, circa 1958 is gorgeous — the clothes, the signage, the saturated colors. Total eye candy (big thanks to my buddy Shane Arbogast). … We’ve all seen photos of the Wilson football factory, but I figure it’s always fun to see a few more. … Caddies in the President’s Cup have been wearing Giants jerseys. Additional details here and here (as reported by Mike McAllister and John Okray, the latter of whom also reports that Tiger Woods looks swell in argyle). … Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson, but it would be nice if you could at least spell it correctly. That’s Ryan Johnson of the MLS San Jose Earthquakes (screen shot courtesy of Josh Manck). … Got some spare basketball jerseys lying around? Turn them into produce bags (Kirsten again). … Okay, so I love the vertically striped socks as much as anyone, but maybe they should wait until Sunday, y’know? For more on the Broncos’ throwbacks, go here, click on “Video and Audio,” and then click on “Past Meets Present.” … Anyone know why Evander Holyfield had “Head” on his waistband for his 1994 fight against Michael Moorer? Answers involving snarky mentions of head-butting don’t count (as spotted by Tim Donovan). … Also from Tim: Phillies vendors wear Phillies-style uni numbers. … The whole “We won, let’s untuck!” thing is bad enough, but last night Orlando Cabrera untucked after a loss (as noted by Jen Muller).

 

254 comments to In Which a Random Ticker Item Leads to a Full-Blown History Mystery

  • DJ | October 8, 2009 at 8:11 am |

    That’s Ryan Johnson of the MLS San Francisco Earthquakes

    San Jose Earthquakes.

  • Robert Eden (formerly Robert in Dallas) | October 8, 2009 at 8:16 am |

    That Padres-to-Washington uniform looks like something that a softball team of the time would have worn. Just head down to the local t-shirt place, pick out some letters for a team name and have them hot pressed onto the jersey.

  • Adam | October 8, 2009 at 8:22 am |

    And what would the Washington Padres have been called?

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:26 am |

    Don’t have time to do it myself right now, but has anyone compared the original Bronco verticals to the throwbacks? I’ll wager there were more stripes on the originals.

    —Ricko

  • Peter Wunsch | October 8, 2009 at 8:28 am |

    I took a cruise ouut of San Juan PR last weekend and all of the baggage handlers at the pier wear shirts with different baseball style uniforms on the back so that you know which person handled your bags.

    Great idea, however I did not have my camera, so no pix.

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 8:30 am |

    Stevie Williams went untucked before a game.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    [quote comment=”352766″]Don’t have time to do it myself right now, but has anyone compared the original Bronco verticals to the throwbacks? I’ll wager there were more stripes on the originals.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Not being picky. Just curious.
    (Besides, might as well stick to the brown & gold theme today, what with the Padres being in the lead and all)

    —Ricko

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 8:32 am |

    Holyfield promoting future sporting endeavors.

    http://www.head.com/

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    Sheboygan Red Skins?

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    “President’s Cup team captain’s assistant Michael Jordan.” Wonder what his responsibilities are?

  • mmwatkin | October 8, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    Everything about that San Francisco video is amazing. I actually watched it twice.

  • Hank | October 8, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    That San Francisco footage is neat stuff, with a touch of Mad Men. Never knew that cable car operators manually turned around the cars.

  • War Damn Eagle | October 8, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    [quote comment=”352762″]That Padres-to-Washington uniform looks like something that a softball team of the time would have worn. Just head down to the local t-shirt place, pick out some letters for a team name and have them hot pressed onto the jersey.[/quote]

    http://www.flickr.co...

    It’s definitely plain, but it’s not out of line with many of the unis being worn in 1974. It’s very comparable to these:

    Reds’ Away
    http://exhibits.base...

    Tigers’Away
    http://exhibits.base...

    Royals’ Away
    http://exhibits.base...

    Brewers
    http://exhibits.base...

  • John T | October 8, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”352773″]Everything about that San Francisco video is amazing. I actually watched it twice.[/quote]

    Have to second that, but while there, check out the Disneyland stuff, amazing. Even a meeting with Walt in the first part.

  • Harmy G | October 8, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    Orlando Cabrera has been “untucking” since at least 2004.

  • John T | October 8, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    http://sportsillustr...

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey!

  • Ditchfarmer | October 8, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    Not hard to spot Craig Seger in the Twins photo. That is a very original color for a suit!

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?

  • chance michaels | October 8, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]
    Nope – that’s Kevin’s brother Michael Bacon.

  • Hank | October 8, 2009 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    That’s Kevin’s brother, Michael and both are sporting the biggest fan/non-player uni violation: wearing a tucked-in jersey with jeans (or shorts for that matter.) Just a bad, bad major dork look.

  • John T | October 8, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    Should have said that it was the Bacon brothers….sorry

    They should have untucked!!

    Have they not seen this

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Scott Fendley | October 8, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    If it was a Sunday game in that Fred Norman card, judging from the ‘crowd’ – it was either April 16 (a doubleheader vs. Atlanta), June 11 (vs. St. Louis) or June 25 (vs. San Francisco). My guess it’s one of the June games, since that looks like Dave Roberts at third (right after he was drafted).

  • interlockingtc | October 8, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    Yeah, the SF video is dreamy. Beautiful.

  • Bo in Boulder | October 8, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    During the Phillies/Rox broadcast yesterday they had a crowd shot that included a cameraman that just had a close-up of a spectator. The cameraman had a Phillies jersey on that had “Camera Guy” for NOB. I think it was around the 6th innning… (If anyone commented yesterday on this, sorry for the duplicate)

  • fred | October 8, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    For those basketball jerseys => shopping bags, wouldn’t it be easier to just sew the bottom hem closed? Since they’re tank tops, they’ve already got built-in handles.

  • We Got Ns In The Backfield | October 8, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    TBS should probably use a different font for their graphics. ALDS looks like AIDS.

  • Sport | October 8, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”352784″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    Should have said that it was the Bacon brothers….sorry

    They should have untucked!!

    Have they not seen this

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Why is is dorky?

    Isn’t it dorky for grown men to be wearing untucked shirts, or jerseys for that matter?

  • Ranagan | October 8, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”352774″]That San Francisco footage is neat stuff, with a touch of Mad Men. Never knew that cable car operators manually turned around the cars.[/quote]

    Still do! Though now they’ve got little handles and backrests to push on rather than pushing right on the side of the car. Feels like an OSHA intervention, if not historic preservation intervention.

  • SpfldNate | October 8, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    Whoa whoa whoa…who’s number 80 in the 49ers picture? There’s no #80 on the Niners roster. Presumably it’s retired or at least “saved” for Jerry Rice.

    That was the first thing I noticed about that photo. Blasphemy!

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    Man, these jersey-wearing rules can be confusing:

    http://s7ondemand1.s...

  • The Jeff | October 8, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    Speaking of alternate NFL logos…

    I think this is much more appropriate for the Chiefs than a KFC chicken leg:

    http://img360.images...

  • Hank | October 8, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”352790″][quote comment=”352784″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    Should have said that it was the Bacon brothers….sorry

    They should have untucked!!

    Have they not seen this

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Why is is dorky?

    Isn’t it dorky for grown men to be wearing untucked shirts, or jerseys for that matter?[/quote]

    ‘Nuf said: http://timstvshowcas...

  • Andy11 | October 8, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    The whole “We won, let’s untuck!” thing is bad enough, but last night Orlando Cabrera untucked after a loss (as noted by Jen Muller).

    Maybe the thought process is more like, “Game’s over, let’s start undressing here on the field and then finish later when we get into the locker room.”

    Untucking a jersey is a quick thing to do. Unfastening a belt and pulling it off is also a quick thing. I submit that Cabrera should not only untuck his jersey on the field, but should also take off his belt and drape it over his shoulder. Then he will have even less to do in the locker room!!!

  • Sport | October 8, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”352795″][quote comment=”352790″][quote comment=”352784″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    Should have said that it was the Bacon brothers….sorry

    They should have untucked!!

    Have they not seen this

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Why is is dorky?

    Isn’t it dorky for grown men to be wearing untucked shirts, or jerseys for that matter?[/quote]

    ‘Nuf said: http://timstvshowcas...

    Shouldn’t create a rule based on extremes. A tucked dorky look is not a good reference. Anyway, nothing against untucked jerseys. Just trying to say that fashion “rules” change every few years.

  • Shane | October 8, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    The whole “We won, let’s untuck!” thing is bad enough, but last night Orlando Cabrera untucked after a loss.

    Seriously? They are done with their work, let them loosen their ties before they get on the subway.

  • Bo in Boulder | October 8, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    Saw the “Full Color Football” on Shotime last night (great show). Some uniform tidbits:

    They said Wahoo McDaniel was the only player in the AFL to have only his first name on his jersey.

    When Cookie Gilchrist was traded from Buffalo to Denver for Billy Joe, he took the number 2 to show that he was one better than Joe who had worn 3. So Joe took the number 33 at Buffalo since Gilchrist had worn 34 there.

  • timmy b | October 8, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    Good to see the Sheboygan Red Skins and the NBL get a little love.

    I’m not an NBA fan so much, but that’s one thing that has totally bugged me thru the years. The NBA basically ignores the NBL history, yet the Atlanta Hawks, L.A. Lakes, Sac Kings, Philly 76ers and Detroit Pistons can all trace their lineage to that league.

    If ever a pro basketball uni database is erected, I would hope it will include the NBL.

  • Perry | October 8, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”352783″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    That’s Kevin’s brother, Michael and both are sporting the biggest fan/non-player uni violation: wearing a tucked-in jersey with jeans (or shorts for that matter.) Just a bad, bad major dork look.[/quote]

    You forgot the “Bacon exception” to the Man Rules: If Kevin Bacon does it, it’s cool by definition. (But ONLY for Kevin Bacon. You or I are still dorks.)

  • Perry | October 8, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”352774″]That San Francisco footage is neat stuff, with a touch of Mad Men. [/quote]

    Especially when Ken Cosgrove gets on the cable car.

  • Kevin C. | October 8, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?

  • TommyD | October 8, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    The Bacon brothers grew up in Philadelphia. Their father Edmund was a world-renowned city planner.

    http://en.wikipedia....(architect)

  • M.Princip | October 8, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”352786″]Yeah, the SF video is dreamy. Beautiful.[/quote]

    Jim, I dig your blog and pics.

    About the 1958 San Francisco footage, awesome. Nice soundtrack too. Sounded a bit like ‘Lost in Translation’?

  • M.Princip | October 8, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    Looks like that’s Beck wearing a Padres cap.

  • PhilsSuck | October 8, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    … Also from Tim: Phillies vendors wear Phillies-style uni numbers. …
    http://farm3.static....

    Do you want fries with that?

    http://www.grants.or...

  • interlockingtc | October 8, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”352805″][quote comment=”352786″]Yeah, the SF video is dreamy. Beautiful.[/quote]

    Jim, I dig your blog and pics.

    About the 1958 San Francisco footage, awesome. Nice soundtrack too. Sounded a bit like ‘Lost in Translation’?[/quote]

    Thank you, M.Princip!

  • Steve | October 8, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    Hey Paul…I’m listening the Sirius’ XMU station right now and they are interviewing the guys from Mountain Goats. Anyway, the DJ asked one of the guys about his “I’m Calling it Shea” shirt. Man, it’s spreading like wildfire.

  • Hank | October 8, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”352801″][quote comment=”352783″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]
    You forgot the “Bacon exception” to the Man Rules: If Kevin Bacon does it, it’s cool by definition. (But ONLY for Kevin Bacon. You or I are still dorks.)[/quote]

    The tucked in jersey would work if one is being hunted by giant worms.

  • SJ | October 8, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    Didn’t the company named Head that makes(or made)tennis gear also make some boxing gear?

  • Mike (VA) | October 8, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”352798″]The whole “We won, let’s untuck!” thing is bad enough, but last night Orlando Cabrera untucked after a loss.

    Seriously? They are done with their work, let them loosen their ties before they get on the subway.[/quote]

    Oh sure, like before I leave work I take my pants off in the lobby so im more comfortable in my car on the drive home. The guy cant wait like 10 seconds to get in the “LOCKER ROOM” before looking like a total schmuck?

  • RS Rogers | October 8, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    What were the Padres going to be called in Washington?

    Also, that photo tends to argue against a purple-and-gold color scheme, since the neck and sleeves have three-color edging of one dark color (possibly purple), one very light color, and one medium color. It could be purple, gold, and another color, but it could just as easily be navy, white, and red. Need some color photos or artifacts to clear this up — even if it was purple and gold, what was the third color? Or was it purple and gold, separated by white?

  • bill | October 8, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”352803″]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    I might be able to narrow it down. Nick Van Exel played for the Spurs, Trail Blazers, Warriors, Mavericks, Nuggets and Lakers.

  • JimV19 | October 8, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”352813″]What were the Padres going to be called in Washington?

    Also, that photo tends to argue against a purple-and-gold color scheme, since the neck and sleeves have three-color edging of one dark color (possibly purple), one very light color, and one medium color. It could be purple, gold, and another color, but it could just as easily be navy, white, and red. Need some color photos or artifacts to clear this up — even if it was purple and gold, what was the third color? Or was it purple and gold, separated by white?[/quote]

    Purple and gold? Were they moving to Washington state or something? I’d have a hard time thinking a DC team would be anything but red, white and blue…even in those wacky wonderful ’70s.

  • Christopher | October 8, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”352790″][quote comment=”352784″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    Should have said that it was the Bacon brothers….sorry

    They should have untucked!!

    Have they not seen this

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Why is is dorky?

    Isn’t it dorky for grown men to be wearing untucked shirts, or jerseys for that matter?[/quote]

    Its hard to say why things look bad. When it comes to jeans, things shouldn’t be tucked in. Jeans are casual, and tucking is not. I guess it looks like you’re “trying too hard” if you will.

    Or, it makes you look like you really don’t wear jeans all that often and aren’t good at being casual.

    I’m probably over-philosophizing here…

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”352771″]Sheboygan Red Skins?[/quote]
    And it looks like the town got its comeuppance for choosing that awful nickname.

  • Sport | October 8, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”352816″][quote comment=”352790″][quote comment=”352784″][quote comment=”352781″][quote comment=”352779″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/albert_chen/10/07/rockies.phillies.game1/bacon.jpg

    They should be banned for life from wearing any jersey![/quote]

    Let me apologize up front for not knowing this: I’m guessing the guy on the left is Kevin Bacon: tell me he at least was wearing #6. The guy on the right looks like that sportswriter named Woody something from the Denver Post who is on that show before PTI. Probably not him, though, right?[/quote]

    Should have said that it was the Bacon brothers….sorry

    They should have untucked!!

    Have they not seen this

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Why is is dorky?

    Isn’t it dorky for grown men to be wearing untucked shirts, or jerseys for that matter?[/quote]

    Its hard to say why things look bad. When it comes to jeans, things shouldn’t be tucked in. Jeans are casual, and tucking is not. I guess it looks like you’re “trying too hard” if you will.

    Or, it makes you look like you really don’t wear jeans all that often and aren’t good at being casual.

    I’m probably over-philosophizing here…[/quote]

    As Jerry used to say, sometimes I go tucked, sometimes I go untucked. Not sure that jeans require you to go untucked. Probably with a T-shirt but only if the shirt is not too long or you’ll look like you’re wearing a dress. Jerseys are probably better untucked, but it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    A good part of the untucking trend is people getting fatter and sloppier, not trying to look cool.

  • JimV19 | October 8, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”352814″][quote comment=”352803″]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    I might be able to narrow it down. Nick Van Exel played for the Spurs, Trail Blazers, Warriors, Mavericks, Nuggets and Lakers.[/quote]

    He played college ball at Cincinnati…don’t know what number he had there. He did wear 37 for Golden State. http://images.usatod...

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    What would the age cut-off for that be?

  • Rick Chaney | October 8, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    Maryland is honoring the passing of long time booster Jack Heise by wearing helmet stickers the rest of the season.

    From the Baltimore Sun:

    For decades, Mr. Heise had been as much a staple of Maryland athletics as Testudo, the turtle mascot. Mr. Heise, who graduated from the school in 1947 and married a former Terrapins cheerleader, worshipped all things Maryland. He had attended almost every football and men’s basketball game, home and away, for more than 60 years. The school said he missed only three Atlantic Coast Conference men’s basketball tournaments since 1946. And that wasn’t all.

    “I’m not sure all the kids today really know who he [Mr. Heise] is,” Mr. Friedgen said. “I’m going to put his initials on our helmets for the rest of the season.”

  • Sport | October 8, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”352820″]it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    What would the age cut-off for that be?[/quote]

    Good question. I’d say no age cutoff. It’s all in your mind.

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    “I’m not sure all the kids today really know who he [Mr. Heise] is,” Mr. Friedgen said. “I’m going to put his initials on our helmets for the rest of the season.”

    I thought they were going to honor him.

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”352822″][quote comment=”352820″]it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    What would the age cut-off for that be?[/quote]

    Good question. I’d say no age cutoff. It’s all in your mind.[/quote]

    So what constitutes a “grown man”?

  • Sport | October 8, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    Again, good question. Not sure I have the answers!

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”352819″][quote comment=”352814″][quote comment=”352803″]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    I might be able to narrow it down. Nick Van Exel played for the Spurs, Trail Blazers, Warriors, Mavericks, Nuggets and Lakers.[/quote]

    He played college ball at Cincinnati…don’t know what number he had there. He did wear 37 for Golden State. http://images.usatod...
    I can’t quite recall, but I seem to remember him having a single-digit number, (1?) but whatever it was, NCAA rules would not have allowed him to wear 37 at Cincinnati.

  • Paul Lukas | October 8, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”352809″]Hey Paul…I’m listening the Sirius’ XMU station right now and they are interviewing the guys from Mountain Goats. Anyway, the DJ asked one of the guys about his “I’m Calling it Shea” shirt. Man, it’s spreading like wildfire.[/quote]

    Who was wearing it — John or Peter?

  • The Jeff | October 8, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”352824″][quote comment=”352822″][quote comment=”352820″]it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    What would the age cut-off for that be?[/quote]

    Good question. I’d say no age cutoff. It’s all in your mind.[/quote]

    So what constitutes a “grown man”?[/quote]

    Do you think rock concerts are too loud?

    If you answered yes, no more jerseys.

    There ya go.

  • Billy | October 8, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”352812″][quote comment=”352798″]The whole “We won, let’s untuck!” thing is bad enough, but last night Orlando Cabrera untucked after a loss.

    Seriously? They are done with their work, let them loosen their ties before they get on the subway.[/quote]

    Oh sure, like before I leave work I take my pants off in the lobby so im more comfortable in my car on the drive home. The guy cant wait like 10 seconds to get in the “LOCKER ROOM” before looking like a total schmuck?[/quote]

    Your example isn’t close to being the same thing. He untucked his shirt. He didnt take off his pants. And like the guy said before, let him loosen his tie before he gets on the subway. I know when I have a bad day at work, the last thing I want to do on the commute home is sit there wearing uncomfortable work clothes. The Twins got beat, he was frustrated, so on and so forth.

    Why is this untucked shirt thing such a big deal around here anyway? And why is it always centered on the Brewers and/or other baseball players? Many basketball players untuck their jerseys when they get off the court, whether it’s the end of the game or for a substitution. And yes, basektball sucks, but why doesn’t anyone get all riled up about it?

  • Kevin C. | October 8, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=\”352826\”][quote comment=\”352819\”][quote comment=\”352814\”][quote comment=\”352803\”]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    I might be able to narrow it down. Nick Van Exel played for the Spurs, Trail Blazers, Warriors, Mavericks, Nuggets and Lakers.[/quote]

    He played college ball at Cincinnati…don\’t know what number he had there. He did wear 37 for Golden State. http://images.usatod...
    I can\’t quite recall, but I seem to remember him having a single-digit number, (1?) but whatever it was, NCAA rules would not have allowed him to wear 37 at Cincinnati.[/quote]

    I found a college jersey that was #31. So I guess we\’ve narrowed it down to a Golden State, but I can\’t find that font on any jersey.

  • Ranagan | October 8, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”352803″]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    Seems like it matches the look and number font of the old Cincinnati Bearcats BBall shirts.

  • JimV19 | October 8, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”352828″][quote comment=”352824″][quote comment=”352822″][quote comment=”352820″]it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    What would the age cut-off for that be?[/quote]

    Good question. I’d say no age cutoff. It’s all in your mind.[/quote]

    So what constitutes a “grown man”?[/quote]

    Do you think rock concerts are too loud?

    If you answered yes, no more jerseys.

    There ya go.[/quote]

    I thought rock concerts were too loud when I sold t-shirts at them…when I was 17.

    I figure you’re too old to wear a jersey when you’re dead. Wear a nice suit in the casket. Before that, wear them at any age.

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    [quote] And yes, basektball sucks, but why doesn’t anyone get all riled up about it?[/quote]

    you just answered your own question

  • Christopher | October 8, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”352829″]Why is this untucked shirt thing such a big deal around here anyway? And why is it always centered on the Brewers and/or other baseball players? Many basketball players untuck their jerseys when they get off the court, whether it’s the end of the game or for a substitution. And yes, basektball sucks, but why doesn’t anyone get all riled up about it?[/quote]

    It looks sloppy.

    They are still representing their team after the game. The game is technically over, but their job isn’t.

    It makes them look like they just HAVE to clock out at 5:00pm on the nose, get in their car and get outta there.

  • Paul Lukas | October 8, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”352829″][quote comment=”352812″][quote comment=”352798″]The whole “We won, let’s untuck!” thing is bad enough, but last night Orlando Cabrera untucked after a loss.

    Seriously? They are done with their work, let them loosen their ties before they get on the subway.[/quote]

    Oh sure, like before I leave work I take my pants off in the lobby so im more comfortable in my car on the drive home. The guy cant wait like 10 seconds to get in the “LOCKER ROOM” before looking like a total schmuck?[/quote]

    Your example isn’t close to being the same thing. He untucked his shirt. He didnt take off his pants. And like the guy said before, let him loosen his tie before he gets on the subway. I know when I have a bad day at work, the last thing I want to do on the commute home is sit there wearing uncomfortable work clothes. The Twins got beat, he was frustrated, so on and so forth.

    Why is this untucked shirt thing such a big deal around here anyway? And why is it always centered on the Brewers and/or other baseball players? Many basketball players untuck their jerseys when they get off the court, whether it’s the end of the game or for a substitution. And yes, basektball sucks, but why doesn’t anyone get all riled up about it?[/quote]

    Fine: It looks like shit when basketball players do it too. Is that better? And asking why an aspect of uni-based behavior is “a big deal” on a web site devoted to uniforms is like going to a sex site and asking what’s the big deal about orgasms. Jeez.

  • Juke Early | October 8, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    Kirsten = smart! Does she have a sister? ;-)

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”352831″][quote comment=”352803″]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    Seems like it matches the look and number font of the old Cincinnati Bearcats BBall shirts.[/quote]
    Huh? In what way do the number fonts of the two jerseys linked above resemble each other?

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”352837″][quote comment=”352831″][quote comment=”352803″]Can anyone help me in identify this jersey?[/quote]

    Seems like it matches the look and number font of the old Cincinnati Bearcats BBall shirts.[/quote]
    Huh? In what way do the number fonts of the two jerseys linked above resemble each other?[/quote]

    they’re both white…duh

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    “A good part of the untucking trend is people getting fatter and sloppier, not trying to look cool.”

    Especially the “getting fatter” part. All you have to do is look around. I pick up my daughter at work at MOA several times a week. While I wait I usually people-watch. It’s a damn BlubberButt Festival. Unbelievable, don’t these people own mirrors?

    Also, compared to years ago, I’ve noticed I almost never see anyone playing pickup touch football in a park or somewhere, for example.

    I have a hunch a good part of it because we live in a culture where we spend too much time watching sports on TV or playing Madden and telling ourselves we’re athletes. “Pass the Little Debbies, willya?”

    Don’t you love the infomercials? “I put on the amazing new FlabFlattener and lost FOUR INCHES off my waist!!!”

    Here’s an idea, lady, go to a damn gym and actually LOSE four inches! You still look like crap when you undress.

    Women wear body shapers. Men go untucked. And everyone pretends they aren’t fat tubs of goo. “Out of sight, out of mind” I guess.

    Not saying everyone who goes untucked is fat. Just saying the chubbies sincerely thank them for that look being fashionable.

    (And don’t talk about somebody’s “metabolism being different”. Yes, there are people with legitimate health issues. But for most of us, Gluttony is still one of the Seven Deadly Sins, as I recall. No one has removed it from the list, have they?

    —Ricko

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”352832″][quote comment=”352828″][quote comment=”352824″][quote comment=”352822″][quote comment=”352820″]it’s probably better for grown men not to wear them at all.

    What would the age cut-off for that be?[/quote]

    Good question. I’d say no age cutoff. It’s all in your mind.[/quote]

    So what constitutes a “grown man”?[/quote]

    Do you think rock concerts are too loud?

    If you answered yes, no more jerseys.

    There ya go.[/quote]

    I thought rock concerts were too loud when I sold t-shirts at them…when I was 17.

    I figure you’re too old to wear a jersey when you’re dead. Wear a nice suit in the casket. Before that, wear them at any age.[/quote]
    There are some concerts that are too loud at any age/volume combination, because… well, y’know .

  • Kyle | October 8, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    Small note that i believe has been mentioned before. But notice the 49ers Visa picture, you will see a player, Issac Bruce, wearing number 80, which is obviously retired by the great Jerry Rice.

    Bruce insists on wearing number 80 at practice even though he cant wear it during games. It rubs some old timmers the wrong way here in the bay area, including myself, and i am not an old timmer.

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    “I will talk,
    in words that rhyme,
    with a rhythm track,
    playing behind.”

    And then I’ll call myself a singer.

    But the best part is, you’ll buy it

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”352841″]Small note that i believe has been mentioned before. But notice the 49ers Visa picture, you will see a player, Issac Bruce, wearing number 80, which is obviously retired by the great Jerry Rice.

    Bruce insists on wearing number 80 at practice even though he cant wear it during games. It rubs some old timmers the wrong way here in the bay area, including myself, and i am not an old timmer.

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??[/quote]
    To answer your question with a (series of) question(s), Rice’s number isn’t actually retired yet, is it?

    Yes, it seems stupid for him to insist on wearing another number in practice, but unless the number is officially retired, I really don’t see what the problem is.

    Also, is it possible that Bruce does this with Rice’s blessing?

    … kinda like how Trent Dilfer got permission to wear #12 (which is retired) a few years ago.

  • James Craven | October 8, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    Did anyone notice that the on-deck circle for the Cardinals at Chavez Ravine was the Anhauser-Busch pre-1998 insignia.

    Wow, Dodger owner Frank McCourt’s trying to upgrade the place, but he can’t afford new on-deck circles.

  • The Jeff | October 8, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”352841″]Small note that i believe has been mentioned before. But notice the 49ers Visa picture, you will see a player, Issac Bruce, wearing number 80, which is obviously retired by the great Jerry Rice.

    Bruce insists on wearing number 80 at practice even though he cant wear it during games. It rubs some old timmers the wrong way here in the bay area, including myself, and i am not an old timmer.

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??[/quote]

    I wouldn’t doubt it’s been done… but that’s going to be rather hard to track down. Practice footage is pretty hard to come by, especially as you go back in time.

    Bruce did spend 14 years wearing 80, I can see why he’d want to wear it in practice. And he is like 5th all-time in receptions, so it’s not like he’s a total bum defacing the number or something.

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    …and then there’s this, of course

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??

    Somewhat related, but different:
    During Steve Spurrier’s first 18 holes, er, training camp with the Skins, Danny Weurfful and Shane Matthews wore 7 and 9. Following the ensuing shitstorm (great singular nickname for a team someday, BTW), they changed to something else. While Sammy Baugh’s “33” is their only officially retired number, several others have not been reissued.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”352841″]Small note that i believe has been mentioned before. But notice the 49ers Visa picture, you will see a player, Issac Bruce, wearing number 80, which is obviously retired by the great Jerry Rice.

    Bruce insists on wearing number 80 at practice even though he cant wear it during games. It rubs some old timmers the wrong way here in the bay area, including myself, and i am not an old timmer.

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??[/quote]

    Prime Time almost always wore #2 in practice.

    —Ricko

  • James Craven | October 8, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”352794″]“Speaking of alternate NFL logos…

    “I think this is much more appropriate for the Chiefs than a KFC chicken leg.”[/quote]

    So, does the first person that says the obvious about that end zone from the Snickers ad will get banned by Paul and/or Lawn Guyland Phillip?

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    Prime Time almost always wore #2 in practice.

    ….it’s a prime number.

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”352848″]
    Prime Time almost always wore #2 in practice.[/quote]
    Good call. I had totally forgotten that he finished his career with the Ravens, too.

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”352846″]…and then there’s this, of course[/quote]

    Now that would make a great produce bag.

  • JimV19 | October 8, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”352841″]Small note that i believe has been mentioned before. But notice the 49ers Visa picture, you will see a player, Issac Bruce, wearing number 80, which is obviously retired by the great Jerry Rice.

    Bruce insists on wearing number 80 at practice even though he cant wear it during games. It rubs some old timmers the wrong way here in the bay area, including myself, and i am not an old timmer.

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??[/quote]

    I think players do it a lot, but I can’t think of any examples off the top my head. Some Ravens, perhaps?

    I wouldn’t feel too bad about Bruce wearing Rice’s number. Rice wore Largent’s retired number in Seattle…during games…so this pales in comparison.

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    Has Uniwatch ever done a complete breakdown of WHA uniforms, including all the defunct franchises? I recall the New York Blades, a great nickname if you ask me.

  • John T | October 8, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”352842″]”I will talk,
    in words that rhyme,
    with a rhythm track,
    playing behind.”

    And then I’ll call myself a singer.

    But the best part is, you’ll buy it[/quote]

    Nice to see Ricko participating in National poetry day
    http://www.nationalp...

    (for the UK that is…)

  • Kyle | October 8, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    So it looks like Rice is okay with it….

    http://49ers.pressde...

    Anything prime time (minus his dallas years) does is great by the way

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”352855″][quote comment=”352842″]”I will talk,
    in words that rhyme,
    with a rhythm track,
    playing behind.”

    And then I’ll call myself a singer.

    But the best part is, you’ll buy it[/quote]

    Nice to see Ricko participating in National poetry day
    http://www.nationalp...

    (for the UK that is…)[/quote]

    But I’m NOT a poet.
    I’m a bloody SINGER!!!

    (giggles, goes to get fish n’ chips)

    —Ricko

  • John T | October 8, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”352857″][quote comment=”352855″][quote comment=”352842″]”I will talk,
    in words that rhyme,
    with a rhythm track,
    playing behind.”

    And then I’ll call myself a singer.

    But the best part is, you’ll buy it[/quote]

    Nice to see Ricko participating in National poetry day
    http://www.nationalp...

    (for the UK that is…)[/quote]

    But I’m NOT a poet.
    I’m a bloody SINGER!!!

    (giggles, goes to get fish n’ chips)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    try the Bangers an mash while your at it..

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • MPowers1634 | October 8, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    1. Great catch with Seger’s suit.

    2. I love that Bacon is wearing #6….degrees of separation!!!!

  • kj | October 8, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”352839″]…It’s a damn BlubberButt Festival. Unbelievable, don’t these people own mirrors?…
    [/quote]
    So, is there a minimum waist size one should be in order to leave the house, so that they don’t offend the sensibilities of the nice, proper, thin people?

    -kj
    (6’5″, 300, pretty much a fat-ass for my entire life… oh, yeah, and I’m gonna go out in public and play hockey tonight. And I’m going to play roller derby over the weekend.)

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”352854″]Has Uniwatch ever done a complete breakdown of WHA uniforms, including all the defunct franchises? I recall the New York Blades, a great nickname if you ask me.[/quote]

    The New York Golden Blades lasted less than a season, so I doubt anyone would have any handy pictures… except possibly the troubadour named Ricko.

    They were originally the NY Raiders in 1972-73. They renamed and redressed themselves as the NY Golden Blades for the 1973 season. However, midway through the ’73-74 season, they moved to New Jersey and became the New Jersey Knights. And then they folded before the start of the 1974-75 season.

    The Los Angeles Sharks moved to Detroit in 1974 to become the Michigan Stags, but they also didn’t last a full season. They relocated to Baltimore midway through January 1975 to become the Baltimore Blades. The Baltimore Blades promptly folded after the ’74-75 season.

  • peter | October 8, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    The WHA got me thinking of the ABA and I found this

    Ricko…

    remember the “Q” quest you sent us on: I 99% sure no one brought this up (and I 99% sure NO OTHER Basketball team has ever used a “Q” on their uni as their primary logo!)

    http://www.remembert...

    (scroll all the way down)

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”352861″][quote comment=”352854″]Has Uniwatch ever done a complete breakdown of WHA uniforms, including all the defunct franchises? I recall the New York Blades, a great nickname if you ask me.[/quote]

    The New York Golden Blades lasted less than a season, so I doubt anyone would have any handy pictures… except possibly the troubadour named Ricko.

    They were originally the NY Raiders in 1972-73. They renamed and redressed themselves as the NY Golden Blades for the 1973 season. However, midway through the ’73-74 season, they moved to New Jersey and became the New Jersey Knights. And then they folded before the start of the 1974-75 season.

    The Los Angeles Sharks moved to Detroit in 1974 to become the Michigan Stags, but they also didn’t last a full season. They relocated to Baltimore midway through January 1975 to become the Baltimore Blades. The Baltimore Blades promptly folded after the ’74-75 season.[/quote]

    hey teebz…did we have pics of the g-blades? or was that the golden seals…one of those teams wore gold blades

    maybe it was the seals

    kinda like this but different

    shit, i don’t ‘member now

    but im pretty sure at some point on UW there were pics of dudes wearing gold skates

  • Mark W | October 8, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”352859″]1. Great catch with Seger’s suit.

    2. I love that Bacon is wearing #6….degrees of separation!!!![/quote]
    1. Sager
    2. Do you have confirmation that he was, in fact, wearing #6 on his tucked-in jersey?

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”352863″][quote comment=”352861″][quote comment=”352854″]Has Uniwatch ever done a complete breakdown of WHA uniforms, including all the defunct franchises? I recall the New York Blades, a great nickname if you ask me.[/quote]

    The New York Golden Blades lasted less than a season, so I doubt anyone would have any handy pictures… except possibly the troubadour named Ricko.

    They were originally the NY Raiders in 1972-73. They renamed and redressed themselves as the NY Golden Blades for the 1973 season. However, midway through the ’73-74 season, they moved to New Jersey and became the New Jersey Knights. And then they folded before the start of the 1974-75 season.

    The Los Angeles Sharks moved to Detroit in 1974 to become the Michigan Stags, but they also didn’t last a full season. They relocated to Baltimore midway through January 1975 to become the Baltimore Blades. The Baltimore Blades promptly folded after the ’74-75 season.[/quote]

    hey teebz…did we have pics of the g-blades? or was that the golden seals…one of those teams wore gold blades

    maybe it was the seals

    kinda like this but different

    shit, i don’t ‘member now

    but im pretty sure at some point on UW there were pics of dudes wearing gold skates[/quote]
    The Seals wore white skates (a la the A’s and their white shoes), right? Were the blades themselves also golden?

  • Steve | October 8, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”352827″][quote comment=”352809″]Hey Paul…I’m listening the Sirius’ XMU station right now and they are interviewing the guys from Mountain Goats. Anyway, the DJ asked one of the guys about his “I’m Calling it Shea” shirt. Man, it’s spreading like wildfire.[/quote]

    Who was wearing it — John or Peter?[/quote]

    I wish I could tell you Paul, but I just heard the tail end of it. I can tell you that the guy talking seemed to have a bit of a British accent if that helps.

  • Marc M. | October 8, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”352859″]1. Great catch with Seger’s suit.

    2. I love that Bacon is wearing #6….degrees of separation!!!![/quote]
    Wow, I just got that! Cool.

  • JRJR | October 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”352804″]The Bacon brothers grew up in Philadelphia. Their father Edmund was a world-renowned city planner.

    http://en.wikipedia....(architect)%5B/quote%5D

    He was also an avid skater!

    http://citypaper.net...

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”352860″][quote comment=”352839″]…It’s a damn BlubberButt Festival. Unbelievable, don’t these people own mirrors?…
    [/quote]
    So, is there a minimum waist size one should be in order to leave the house, so that they don’t offend the sensibilities of the nice, proper, thin people?

    -kj
    (6’5″, 300, pretty much a fat-ass for my entire life… oh, yeah, and I’m gonna go out in public and play hockey tonight. And I’m going to play roller derby over the weekend.)[/quote]

    Aw, hell, KJ, I’m not talking about people who are just plain built large. Good Lord, no. No way indicting them, or you.

    I’m talking about those with an average frame, but you can easily see in the way they move and generally carry themselves that they do absolutely nothing. There’s a sort of noticeable couch potato waddle and accompanying excess girth. Men, it’s in the gut. Women, butt.

    It sorta goes to a basic truth. Most Americans (esp. women, I’m afraid) “will do anything to lose weight”. Well, except diet and exercise, of course.

    —Ricko

  • The Jeff | October 8, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?

  • JimV19 | October 8, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”352858″][quote comment=”352857″][quote comment=”352855″][quote comment=”352842″]”I will talk,
    in words that rhyme,
    with a rhythm track,
    playing behind.”

    And then I’ll call myself a singer.

    But the best part is, you’ll buy it[/quote]

    Nice to see Ricko participating in National poetry day
    http://www.nationalp...

    (for the UK that is…)[/quote]

    But I’m NOT a poet.
    I’m a bloody SINGER!!!

    (giggles, goes to get fish n’ chips)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    try the Bangers an mash while your at it..

    http://en.wikipedia....

    Fish and chips, bangers and mash
    are good for body and soul.
    But better than those and better than hash
    is a dish called toad-in-the-hole.
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Hey, I’m a rhymer…not a poet…

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”352866″]
    The Seals wore white skates (a la the A’s and their white shoes), right? Were the blades themselves also golden?[/quote]

    JTH is correct. White skates, and semi-white skates. Horridly awful paint jobs.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    “The New York Golden Blades lasted less than a season, so I doubt anyone would have any handy pictures… except possibly the troubadour named Ricko.”

    Numerous Golden Blades photos (B&W) in that WHA newspaper I edited, yes. I’ll dig them out for UW Winter Classic in January, for sure.

    Colors were purple, athletic gold and white. But I imagine y’all knew that (despite some surviving embroidered patches in royal, athletic gold and white…I know, I have one of the patches, a sample from Voyager Emblems, which made them, and got the color wrong; don’t know that they ever did do a correct version).

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | October 8, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    It was funnier in the old Natural Light commercials. What was the comedian’s name – Norm something or other?

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”352873″][quote comment=”352866″]
    The Seals wore white skates (a la the A’s and their white shoes), right? Were the blades themselves also golden?[/quote]

    JTH is correct. White skates, and semi-white skates. Horridly awful paint jobs.[/quote]

    so did any team wear gold blades?

    or am i misremembering

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    gah

    goldenblades

  • Anthony | October 8, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    In regards to the Van Exel jersey from way above, I’m assuming it’s this Warriors throwback design:

    http://www.nbabasket...

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”352877″]gah

    goldenblades[/quote]

    There might be some reality to this, Phil. I found an old B&W photo of Bobby Sheehan with the NY Golden Blades. Clearly, his skates are not black.

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    Speaking for only myself, that jagoff was never funny.
    (And Norm Crosby is the name you’re trying to pull, I think).

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”352880″][quote comment=”352877″]gah

    goldenblades[/quote]

    There might be some reality to this, Phil. I found an old B&W photo of Bobby Sheehan with the NY Golden Blades. Clearly, his skates are not black.[/quote]

    Further research shows that Sheehan is actually wearing his painted white skates from the California Golden Seals!

    In 1972, Sheehan laced them up with the NHL Seals for 78 games, scoring 20 goals and adding 26 helpers. The following season, he signed with the NY Raiders in the WHA, playing 75 games and amassing 35 goals alongside 53 assists. The following season? He played with the NY Golden Blades/NJ Knights.

    A little web research explains the whole thing! So I assume that the Golden Blades did not wear golden blades.

  • Kevin C. | October 8, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”352878″]In regards to the Van Exel jersey from way above, I’m assuming it’s this Warriors throwback design:

    http://www.nbabasket...

    Thank you! Now I can get back to work.

  • Scott Davis | October 8, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    great feature today on Mental Floss about Mad Magazine’s creative uses of that creep known fondly as the UPC code.

    http://www.mentalflo...

  • MPowers1634 | October 8, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”352865″][quote comment=”352859″]1. Great catch with Seger’s suit.

    2. I love that Bacon is wearing #6….degrees of separation!!!![/quote]
    1. Sager
    2. Do you have confirmation that he was, in fact, wearing #6 on his tucked-in jersey?[/quote]

    Fine and No.

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”352886″][quote comment=”352865″][quote comment=”352859″]1. Great catch with Seger’s suit.

    2. I love that Bacon is wearing #6….degrees of separation!!!![/quote]
    1. Sager
    2. Do you have confirmation that he was, in fact, wearing #6 on his tucked-in jersey?[/quote]

    Fine and No.[/quote]
    O and K.

  • mike | October 8, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”352853″][quote comment=”352841″]Small note that i believe has been mentioned before. But notice the 49ers Visa picture, you will see a player, Issac Bruce, wearing number 80, which is obviously retired by the great Jerry Rice.

    Bruce insists on wearing number 80 at practice even though he cant wear it during games. It rubs some old timmers the wrong way here in the bay area, including myself, and i am not an old timmer.

    But has anyone else ever worn a different number in practice than on the field??[/quote]

    I think players do it a lot, but I can’t think of any examples off the top my head. Some Ravens, perhaps?

    I wouldn’t feel too bad about Bruce wearing Rice’s number. Rice wore Largent’s retired number in Seattle…during games…so this pales in comparison.[/quote]

    Jerry gave Bruce his blessing to wear #80 in the games if he wanted (since Largent did the same for him in Seattle) but Bruce declined to wear 80 in the games… only in practice.

    Deion wore #2 at practices and Jerry sometimes wore #6 in practices near the end of his carerr with the Niners. When asked why he said he just always wanted to wear a single digit number.

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 1:57 pm |
  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”352889″]sager

    seger

    grapes[/quote]

    Bunch of fruitcakes! LOL

    Don’t forget the OJ! ;o)

  • Skycat | October 8, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”352861″][quote comment=”352854″]Has Uniwatch ever done a complete breakdown of WHA uniforms, including all the defunct franchises? I recall the New York Blades, a great nickname if you ask me.[/quote]

    The New York Golden Blades lasted less than a season, so I doubt anyone would have any handy pictures… except possibly the troubadour named Ricko.

    They were originally the NY Raiders in 1972-73. They renamed and redressed themselves as the NY Golden Blades for the 1973 season. However, midway through the ’73-74 season, they moved to New Jersey and became the New Jersey Knights. And then they folded before the start of the 1974-75 season.

    The Los Angeles Sharks moved to Detroit in 1974 to become the Michigan Stags, but they also didn’t last a full season. They relocated to Baltimore midway through January 1975 to become the Baltimore Blades. The Baltimore Blades promptly folded after the ’74-75 season.[/quote]
    Also, in the old Eastern Hockey League there was the New Haven Blades who played from 1954-1972.

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”352891″][quote comment=”352861″][quote comment=”352854″]Has Uniwatch ever done a complete breakdown of WHA uniforms, including all the defunct franchises? I recall the New York Blades, a great nickname if you ask me.[/quote]

    The New York Golden Blades lasted less than a season, so I doubt anyone would have any handy pictures… except possibly the troubadour named Ricko.

    They were originally the NY Raiders in 1972-73. They renamed and redressed themselves as the NY Golden Blades for the 1973 season. However, midway through the ’73-74 season, they moved to New Jersey and became the New Jersey Knights. And then they folded before the start of the 1974-75 season.

    The Los Angeles Sharks moved to Detroit in 1974 to become the Michigan Stags, but they also didn’t last a full season. They relocated to Baltimore midway through January 1975 to become the Baltimore Blades. The Baltimore Blades promptly folded after the ’74-75 season.[/quote]
    Also, in the old Eastern Hockey League there was the New Haven Blades who played from 1954-1972.[/quote]

    Just thinking about that, NJ moved to San Diego to become the Mariners. Then they folded. LOL

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”352883″][quote comment=”352880″][quote comment=”352877″]gah

    goldenblades[/quote]

    There might be some reality to this, Phil. I found an old B&W photo of Bobby Sheehan with the NY Golden Blades. Clearly, his skates are not black.[/quote]

    Further research shows that Sheehan is actually wearing his painted white skates from the California Golden Seals!

    In 1972, Sheehan laced them up with the NHL Seals for 78 games, scoring 20 goals and adding 26 helpers. The following season, he signed with the NY Raiders in the WHA, playing 75 games and amassing 35 goals alongside 53 assists. The following season? He played with the NY Golden Blades/NJ Knights.

    A little web research explains the whole thing! So I assume that the Golden Blades did not wear golden blades.[/quote]

    I can say I recall them TALKING about wearing white skates.
    Honestly don’t remember if they actually did.
    Guess the photos in that WHA tabloid might help.

    –Ricko

  • chance michaels | October 8, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]
    Thirty years from now, people are going to be watching direct-brain downloads of Dane Cook and asking the same about the ’00s.

    Of course, some of us are saying that about Dane Cook now.

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”352893″][quote comment=”352883″][quote comment=”352880″][quote comment=”352877″]gah

    goldenblades[/quote]

    There might be some reality to this, Phil. I found an old B&W photo of Bobby Sheehan with the NY Golden Blades. Clearly, his skates are not black.[/quote]

    Further research shows that Sheehan is actually wearing his painted white skates from the California Golden Seals!

    In 1972, Sheehan laced them up with the NHL Seals for 78 games, scoring 20 goals and adding 26 helpers. The following season, he signed with the NY Raiders in the WHA, playing 75 games and amassing 35 goals alongside 53 assists. The following season? He played with the NY Golden Blades/NJ Knights.

    A little web research explains the whole thing! So I assume that the Golden Blades did not wear golden blades.[/quote]

    I can say I recall them TALKING about wearing white skates.
    Honestly don’t remember if they actually did.
    Guess the photos in that WHA tabloid might help.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko, don’t throw curveballs into my research. ;o)

  • JohnnyO | October 8, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    Those with DirecTV: They are offering a free trail of NHL Center Ice from now until Oct. 24th. Ch. 769-787 I believe it is. Enjoy!

  • MPowers1634 | October 8, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”352890″][quote comment=”352889″]sager

    seger

    grapes[/quote]

    Bunch of fruitcakes! LOL

    Don’t forget the OJ! ;o)[/quote]

    Be sure to drink apple juice, becuase O.J. will kill you:

    http://www.loopsandp...

  • M.Princip | October 8, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”352852″][quote comment=”352846″]…and then there’s this, of course[/quote]

    Now that would make a great produce bag.[/quote]

    Idea, a #80 Niners jersey with LARGENT at back.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”352848″]Prime Time almost always wore #2 in practice.[/quote]
    Neon Deon was in a commerical during the “World Cup in the USA” year: a soccer ball was being kicked around and Deon came out, grabbed it out of midair and showboated all the way down the sideline to spike it in the endzone. :-)

    A lot of talk about Farve self-referencing commercial, this was an earlier one. And IMHO, funnier.

  • MPowers1634 | October 8, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”352895″][quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]

    http://www.hockeydb....

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”352895″]Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]I was partial to the Chicago Cougars “skating on his own tail” cat. :-)

  • MPowers1634 | October 8, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”352901″][quote comment=”352895″][quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]

    http://www.hockeydb....

    Oops,
    http://www.azhockey....

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”352782″]
    Nope – that’s Kevin’s brother Michael Bacon.[/quote]
    Both wearing jeans, but Micheal/Kevin decided to go beltless.

    I never quite “got” what all the controversy was during the All-Star game, but would either of those count as Mom Jeans?

  • Matt E | October 8, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    On a tangent:

    Just got back from a trip to Scotland. Visited the National Museum of Scotland, the top floor of which houses the Scotland Sports Hall of Fame. Plenty of interesting exhibits, with one in particular that I loved:

    http://i41.tinypic.c...

    It’s a soccer (FOOTBALL, ya bloody yank!) shirt from the Scottish national team, circa 1907. Not exactly the bold blue and white colors you’d expect, no? There’s a story behind it, something about how the head of the Scottish Football Association at the time was Archibald Primrose, the Earl of Roseberry – therefore the kits are designed in rose and primrose, which were also the colors that the Earl used on his racing horses.

    Just goes to show you that the next time you’re admiring some black-and-white photos of vintage sports jerseys, who knows whether those uniforms are actually pink and yellow technicolor nightmares.

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”352904″][quote comment=”352782″]
    Nope – that’s Kevin’s brother Michael Bacon.[/quote]
    Both wearing jeans, but Micheal/Kevin decided to go beltless.

    I never quite “got” what all the controversy was during the All-Star game, but would either of those count as Mom Jeans?[/quote]

    when in doubt, always check urban dic

  • peter | October 8, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    RE: Dane Cook…shhh…don’t tell him about UniWatch or he might troll this site and steal something that’s actually funny!!

  • rhdii | October 8, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    We didn’t have computers. We were really pretty bored. It didn’t take much to entertain us.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”352908″][quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    We didn’t have computers. We were really pretty bored. It didn’t take much to entertain us.[/quote]

    What? The style of humor differs from generation to generation? Damn, who knew.

    Such insight.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”352906″]
    when in doubt, always check urban dic[/quote]
    Okay, that’s a start.

    I also have to admit that I didn’t study Obama’s pictures from that day. To be honest, I was happy that he had a Sox jacket, and I figured whatever else he wore was at the insistence of the Secret Service: so the style of jeans he had on in July ’09 might not have been the ones he was wearing say, two years ago.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”352903″][quote comment=”352901″][quote comment=”352895″][quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]

    http://www.hockeydb....

    Oops,
    http://www.azhockey....

    Y’know, at the time, we joked that a lot of people down there probably thought that thing in the background was a hockey rink.

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    Found it, Phil!

    Harry Howell stated, “The WHA experience was different, believe me. Right off the bat, I went to the New York Golden Blades. We had white skates with gold blades.”

    From this page. And while it’s still a B&W picture, more proof that the Golden Blades wore painted skates.

    So Ricko, the troubadour and amateur sports historian, is absolutely correct! Sheehan and the Golden Blades wore painted skates for approximately six months!

  • Sport | October 8, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”352904″][quote comment=”352782″]
    Nope – that’s Kevin’s brother Michael Bacon.[/quote]
    Both wearing jeans, but Micheal/Kevin decided to go beltless.

    I never quite “got” what all the controversy was during the All-Star game, but would either of those count as Mom Jeans?[/quote]

    Only thing you can say about these guys is: Tuckers.

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”352912″][quote comment=”352903″][quote comment=”352901″][quote comment=”352895″][quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]

    http://www.hockeydb....

    Oops,
    http://www.azhockey....

    Y’know, at the time, we joked that a lot of people down there probably thought that thing in the background was a hockey rink.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    What about the saga of the Minnesota Fighting Saints? Didn’t they absorb a failing team and/or had new ownership, and then renamed the club, the Minnesota New Fighting Saints?

  • Jeff R. | October 8, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    About the only think worse that having to see that Rice Seattle jersey again is picturing Rice in the Seattle green alternate!

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”352913″]So Ricko, the troubadour and amateur sports historian, is absolutely correct! Sheehan and the Golden Blades wore painted skates for approximately six months![/quote]

    Ricko studies the history of pro sports too.

    :-)))

    But, our own Ricko as a troubadour?? Now I’m getting scared.

  • Teebz | October 8, 2009 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”352917″][quote comment=”352913″]So Ricko, the troubadour and amateur sports historian, is absolutely correct! Sheehan and the Golden Blades wore painted skates for approximately six months![/quote]

    Ricko studies the history of pro sports too.

    :-)))

    But, our own Ricko as a troubadour?? Now I’m getting scared.[/quote]

    He was waxing poetic up above, and attempting to put music to his lyrical prose. :o)

  • Maks | October 8, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    huh.. how about that.
    best uniform polling. only restricted to 12 uni’s. and of course, This poll is conducted in Chicago.. so there might be a BIT biased ;)

    http://poll.suntimes...

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”352918″][quote comment=”352917″][quote comment=”352913″]So Ricko, the troubadour and amateur sports historian, is absolutely correct! Sheehan and the Golden Blades wore painted skates for approximately six months![/quote]

    Ricko studies the history of pro sports too.

    :-)))

    But, our own Ricko as a troubadour?? Now I’m getting scared.[/quote]

    He was waxing poetic up above, and attempting to put music to his lyrical prose. :o)[/quote]

    Indeed I was. So that I could, by today’s standards, call myself a singer.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”352915″][quote comment=”352912″][quote comment=”352903″][quote comment=”352901″][quote comment=”352895″][quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]

    http://www.hockeydb....

    Oops,
    http://www.azhockey....

    Y’know, at the time, we joked that a lot of people down there probably thought that thing in the background was a hockey rink.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    What about the saga of the Minnesota Fighting Saints? Didn’t they absorb a failing team and/or had new ownership, and then renamed the club, the Minnesota New Fighting Saints?[/quote]

    Whoa. By that time my partner and I were no longer retained by the league—and we’d dissolved our partnership—but he was working with Nick Mileti and his people, trying to to save that franchise as the team’s …aw, hell, I don’t know what his title was, exactly. And I was eyeball deep in the project, too, as a freelance marketing/advertising/PR guy. Wrote a bunch of stories for the game programs and designed several program covers, as well as some (I think) great-looking letterhead and stationery. Still have samples at home somewhere.

    We did everything but mouth-to-mouth, but the WHA was too far on it’s downward skid….and we lost ‘er. Still remember the night the team folded. Think I’ve mentioned this before, but I left the team offices about 1 a.m., following the “we’re done” news conference. Probably three of us still left in the building. Was a brand-new white, RED and gold Saints home jersey hanging on the back of a door. Could have stuck that thing under my overcoat and left without anyone ever knowing.

    Looking back on it, I should have done just that.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    And, yes, the New Fighting Saints were a combination of the previous Saints and Mileti’s Cleveland Crusaders.

    —Ricko

  • Traxel | October 8, 2009 at 6:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”352893″][quote comment=”352883″][quote comment=”352880″][quote comment=”352877″]gah

    goldenblades[/quote]

    There might be some reality to this, Phil. I found an old B&W photo of Bobby Sheehan with the NY Golden Blades. Clearly, his skates are not black.[/quote]

    Further research shows that Sheehan is actually wearing his painted white skates from the California Golden Seals!

    In 1972, Sheehan laced them up with the NHL Seals for 78 games, scoring 20 goals and adding 26 helpers. The following season, he signed with the NY Raiders in the WHA, playing 75 games and amassing 35 goals alongside 53 assists. The following season? He played with the NY Golden Blades/NJ Knights.

    A little web research explains the whole thing! So I assume that the Golden Blades did not wear golden blades.[/quote]

    I can say I recall them TALKING about wearing white skates.
    Honestly don’t remember if they actually did.
    Guess the photos in that WHA tabloid might help.

    –Ricko[/quote]
    Didn’t the white skate thing happen in the Charley O. Finley years? And the switch to green/gold?

    Just now getting a chance to go through the comments. I thought I’d be one of the few to praise the San Fran video clip but it turns out that plenty of others thought it was pretty damn cool too.

    That Padres hat thing is quite intresting. I too have seen that baseball card a thousand times and not noticed anything…..until now of course. Always thought it was strange they kind of pinched the yellow front panel on the later 70’s headwear.

  • BWags | October 8, 2009 at 6:39 pm |

    Erie PA had an ACHL team in the mid-80s called the Golden Blades:

    http://erieblades.tr...

    Before that, they were just the Erie Blades and wore this:

    http://minorhockeyje...

  • Traxel | October 8, 2009 at 6:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”352923″][quote comment=”352893″][quote comment=”352883″][quote comment=”352880″][quote comment=”352877″]gah

    goldenblades[/quote]

    There might be some reality to this, Phil. I found an old B&W photo of Bobby Sheehan with the NY Golden Blades. Clearly, his skates are not black.[/quote]

    Further research shows that Sheehan is actually wearing his painted white skates from the California Golden Seals!

    In 1972, Sheehan laced them up with the NHL Seals for 78 games, scoring 20 goals and adding 26 helpers. The following season, he signed with the NY Raiders in the WHA, playing 75 games and amassing 35 goals alongside 53 assists. The following season? He played with the NY Golden Blades/NJ Knights.

    A little web research explains the whole thing! So I assume that the Golden Blades did not wear golden blades.[/quote]

    I can say I recall them TALKING about wearing white skates.
    Honestly don’t remember if they actually did.
    Guess the photos in that WHA tabloid might help.

    –Ricko[/quote]
    Didn’t the white skate thing happen in the Charley O. Finley years? And the switch to green/gold?

    Just now getting a chance to go through the comments. I thought I’d be one of the few to praise the San Fran video clip but it turns out that plenty of others thought it was pretty damn cool too.

    That Padres hat thing is quite intresting. I too have seen that baseball card a thousand times and not noticed anything…..until now of course. Always thought it was strange they kind of pinched the yellow front panel on the later 70’s headwear.[/quote]
    Thought I’d read that white skate Charley Finley thing somewhere…
    http://www.nhlunifor...

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 6:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”352921″][quote comment=”352915″][quote comment=”352912″][quote comment=”352903″][quote comment=”352901″][quote comment=”352895″][quote comment=”352882″][quote comment=”352879″]and finally…here’s some cool WHA media guides

    did ricko write any of em?[/quote]

    Fair portion of the first two in first row.
    Worked for the league, not the individual teams.
    My then-partner wrote most of the copy.

    Can’t say, tough, what I might have written somewhere that teams might have picked up for their own guides.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Best logos had to be the Cincinnati Stingers and Phoenix Roadrunners, the worst name had to be the Michigan Stags. Phoenix had a skating roadrunner set against the state of Arizona.[/quote]

    http://www.hockeydb....

    Oops,
    http://www.azhockey....

    Y’know, at the time, we joked that a lot of people down there probably thought that thing in the background was a hockey rink.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    What about the saga of the Minnesota Fighting Saints? Didn’t they absorb a failing team and/or had new ownership, and then renamed the club, the Minnesota New Fighting Saints?[/quote]

    Whoa. By that time my partner and I were no longer retained by the league—and we’d dissolved our partnership—but he was working with Nick Mileti and his people, trying to to save that franchise as the team’s …aw, hell, I don’t know what his title was, exactly. And I was eyeball deep in the project, too, as a freelance marketing/advertising/PR guy. Wrote a bunch of stories for the game programs and designed several program covers, as well as some (I think) great-looking letterhead and stationery. Still have samples at home somewhere.

    We did everything but mouth-to-mouth, but the WHA was too far on it’s downward skid….and we lost ‘er. Still remember the night the team folded. Think I’ve mentioned this before, but I left the team offices about 1 a.m., following the “we’re done” news conference. Probably three of us still left in the building. Was a brand-new white, RED and gold Saints home jersey hanging on the back of a door. Could have stuck that thing under my overcoat and left without anyone ever knowing.

    Looking back on it, I should have done just that.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Losing a job is always tough, I know the feeling. Instead of taking anything, I left something, it was organic……

  • BWags | October 8, 2009 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”352924″]Erie PA had an ACHL team in the mid-80s called the Golden Blades:

    http://erieblades.tr...

    Before that, they were just the Erie Blades and wore this:

    http://minorhockeyje...

    and yes, they had a good old-fashioned player coach.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”352920″]Indeed I was.[/quote]
    Okay, glad I didn’t get to see UniWatch until this afternoon…. ;-)
    [quote comment=”352920″]So that I could, by today’s standards, call myself a singer.[/quote]Ah, that statement applies to just about any generation, doesn’t it?

    Anyways, the word troubador brought to mind the medival madrigal-style singer image: just trying to imagine Ricko in some tights, strumming a lute (the instrument, not the coach): ooh, scary stuff kids.

    :-)

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 6:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”352926″]Losing a job is always tough, I know the feeling. Instead of taking anything, I left something, it was organic……[/quote]Call yourself “green”.

    You were ahead of your time (assuming this wasn’t within the last three years or so.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 6:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”352919″]huh.. how about that.
    best uniform polling. only restricted to 12 uni’s. and of course, This poll is conducted in Chicago.. so there might be a BIT biased ;)[/quote]
    Indeed, it could be a bit biased, OTOH the Wings and Cardinals were among the leaders in the “others recieving votes” catagory so that shows that it must have been on-line, and that nobody at the City/County building was involved in the vote counting.

  • bartusball | October 8, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”352815″][quote comment=”352813″]What were the Padres going to be called in Washington?

    Also, that photo tends to argue against a purple-and-gold color scheme, since the neck and sleeves have three-color edging of one dark color (possibly purple), one very light color, and one medium color. It could be purple, gold, and another color, but it could just as easily be navy, white, and red. Need some color photos or artifacts to clear this up — even if it was purple and gold, what was the third color? Or was it purple and gold, separated by white?[/quote]

    Purple and gold? Were they moving to Washington state or something? I’d have a hard time thinking a DC team would be anything but red, white and blue…even in those wacky wonderful ’70s.[/quote]

    Guess the Wizards didn’t get the memo.

  • bartusball | October 8, 2009 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”352910″][quote comment=”352908″][quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    We didn’t have computers. We were really pretty bored. It didn’t take much to entertain us.[/quote]

    What? The style of humor differs from generation to generation? Damn, who knew.

    Such insight.[/quote]

    I was going to say it was the shitty disco music…but I’m gonna go out on the limb and say it was the drugs.

  • bartusball | October 8, 2009 at 7:47 pm |

    Top 5 WHA jersey crests

    5. Edmonton Oilers ’72-’74
    4. Quebec Nordiques ’72-’79
    3. Cincinnatti Stingers ’75-’79
    2. New England Whalers ’73-’79
    1. Minnesota Fighting Saints ’73-’77

    One of the worst had to be the Cleveland Crusaders. The horse head looked more like a camel. Truly awful.

    Ricko as a sidebar, didn’t the St. Paul Arena have clear dasher boards? I remember watching WHA games on NBC? and as a 10-12 year old thought that was incredibly cool. I had a friend that grew up in Minneapolis who said it was really difficult to play there because the transparency played havoc with your depth perception.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”352933″]Ricko as a sidebar, didn’t the St. Paul Arena have clear dasher boards? I remember watching WHA games on NBC? and as a 10-12 year old thought that was incredibly cool. I had a friend that grew up in Minneapolis who said it was really difficult to play there because the transparency played havoc with your depth perception.[/quote]

    Absolutely true: quite a departure from the NHL arenas of that era.

    And St. Paul may have been the one of the few “new” arenas the WHA played in (maybe Hartford too). They played at the Ampitheater in Chicago; that was a part of the Stockyards and a place considered old back in 1968.

  • Oakville Endive | October 8, 2009 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”352934″][quote comment=”352933″]Ricko as a sidebar, didn’t the St. Paul Arena have clear dasher boards? I remember watching WHA games on NBC? and as a 10-12 year old thought that was incredibly cool. I had a friend that grew up in Minneapolis who said it was really difficult to play there because the transparency played havoc with your depth perception.[/quote]

    Absolutely true: quite a departure from the NHL arenas of that era.

    And St. Paul may have been the one of the few “new” arenas the WHA played in (maybe Hartford too). They played at the Ampitheater in Chicago; that was a part of the Stockyards and a place considered old back in 1968.[/quote]

    And if I remember correct, clear boards were also present in the arena used in the 1972 Winter Olympics in Saporo, Japan. The thinking was – I think – Ricko can confirm or refute – Minnesota’s rink was influenced by the Olympic rink. Oddly enough – The Dodgers almost create the same effect with their ground level seats.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”352935″][quote comment=”352934″][quote comment=”352933″]Ricko as a sidebar, didn’t the St. Paul Arena have clear dasher boards? I remember watching WHA games on NBC? and as a 10-12 year old thought that was incredibly cool. I had a friend that grew up in Minneapolis who said it was really difficult to play there because the transparency played havoc with your depth perception.[/quote]

    Absolutely true: quite a departure from the NHL arenas of that era.

    And St. Paul may have been the one of the few “new” arenas the WHA played in (maybe Hartford too). They played at the Ampitheater in Chicago; that was a part of the Stockyards and a place considered old back in 1968.[/quote]

    And if I remember correct, clear boards were also present in the arena used in the 1972 Winter Olympics in Saporo, Japan. The thinking was – I think – Ricko can confirm or refute – Minnesota’s rink was influenced by the Olympic rink.

    Oddly enough – The Dodgers almost create the same effect with their ground level seats.[/quote]

    Fighting Saints began play in the old St. Paul Arena, which had traditional dasher boards. During that first season (’72-’73) the new St. Paul Civic Center opened (which has since be torn down to make way for the Xcell Energy Center) and it did have the clear boards.

    As to the model of Olympics, I’d sorta doubt it because of the lead time involved. The seats in the new arena were set back aways, so it must have been in the planning for some time.

    A note about the boards. Because they were transparent, and because the seats were set back, there was noticeably less standing up and sitting down, the typical pattern of a hockey crowd as they attempt to follow the puck into the corners. The result was a crowd that seemed a little less revved up. Oh, they’d GET fired up, sure, but the general level was a notch lower. We used to talk about it from time to time in the press box.

    —Ricko

  • Benjamin | October 8, 2009 at 8:17 pm |

    I don’t remember if it was mentioned that Russell Martin wore a custom mouthpiece in the World Baseball Classic and start of this season to help stop using tobacco.

  • Oakville Endive | October 8, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    Picture of the Japan rink

    http://images.google...

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:27 pm |

    re: White skates.

    Most definitely a Charlie Finley intro with the California Golden Seals (he also added “Golden” to the nickname). All of itcame with changing the team colors from kelly & royal to kelly & gold. Around 1970, I think it was. Part of the time the skates were all white, other times they were white with a fair amount of kelly.

    I don’t believe anyone was saying the Golden Blades were anything other than the WHA team that wore white skates later on (’73-’74).

    —Ricko

  • Oakville Endive | October 8, 2009 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”352940″]re: White skates.

    Most definitely a Charlie Finley intro with the California Golden Seals (he also added “Golden” to the nickname). All of itcame with changing the team colors from kelly & royal to kelly & gold. Around 1970, I think it was. Part of the time the skates were all white, other times they were white with a fair amount of kelly.

    I don’t believe anyone was saying the Golden Blades were anything other than the WHA team that wore white skates later on (’73-’74).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think before the Seals went to completely white skates, they were green and gold (as opposed to green and white). The Blues also had coloured skates – blue and yellow, although the yellow was more subdue than the Seals use of yellow, and rumour has it ,the Kings had purple skates, although the later – I’m pretty iffy about. I was a kid at the time, and coloured skates were used by a couple of players on our house league team – ah the early 70″s

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”352940″]re: White skates.

    Most definitely a Charlie Finley intro with the California Golden Seals (he also added “Golden” to the nickname). All of itcame with changing the team colors from kelly & royal to kelly & gold. Around 1970, I think it was. Part of the time the skates were all white, other times they were white with a fair amount of kelly.

    I don’t believe anyone was saying the Golden Blades were anything other than the WHA team that wore white skates later on (’73-’74).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    If I’m not mistaken, Charles Finley also owned the Memphis Pros of the ABA, and they too, had green and yellow uniforms. He really liked that color combination.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:40 pm |

    Yup, you’re right. Pretty sure Bauer made them. And the Blues did wear the royal-gold (remember Gary Unger in ’em). The Seals did wear the green-gold, now that I’m reminded. In addition to the all-whites, as you mentioned.

    I keep thinking one other team wore a Bauer color combination, too, but can’t come up with it.

    Teebz’d be the one to fill in the particulars, I imagine.

    —Ricko

  • Steve | October 8, 2009 at 8:42 pm |

    Has Yadiar Molina always worn a hat under his mask? At least it looks like a hat and not a helmet…

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”352942″][quote comment=”352940″]re: White skates.

    Most definitely a Charlie Finley intro with the California Golden Seals (he also added “Golden” to the nickname). All of itcame with changing the team colors from kelly & royal to kelly & gold. Around 1970, I think it was. Part of the time the skates were all white, other times they were white with a fair amount of kelly.

    I don’t believe anyone was saying the Golden Blades were anything other than the WHA team that wore white skates later on (’73-’74).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    If I’m not mistaken, Charles Finley also owned the Memphis Pros of the ABA, and they too, had green and yellow uniforms. He really liked that color combination.[/quote]

    Yup. Finley changed the name from “Pros” to “Tams” (for Tennessee-Arkansas-Mississippi, which meet at/near Memphis), and colors from red, white and blue to green and gold. The Pros had inherited their colors (and uni look) from their previous incarnation as the New Orleans Bucs.

    —Ricko

  • Oakville Endive | October 8, 2009 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”352943″]Yup, you’re right. Pretty sure Bauer made them. And the Blues did wear the royal-gold (remember Gary Unger in ’em). The Seals did wear the green-gold, now that I’m reminded. In addition to the all-whites, as you mentioned.

    I keep thinking one other team wore a Bauer color combination, too, but can’t come up with it.

    Teebz’d be the one to fill in the particulars, I imagine.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I may have to dig up my Esso Powerplay sticker catalogue (a one year marketing phenomenon of that era in Canada) – to see if I can confirm that LA was the third team

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 8:50 pm |

    Tams did a lot of mix and match with their unis.
    http://www.remembert...

    —Ricko

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 9:01 pm |

    UFL Football is on Versus. No DVR, but I will take some pics with my phone and upload….

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:06 pm |

    Gary Unger in blue skates with gold trim…
    http://www.gasolinea...
    http://2.bp.blogspot...
    http://caimages.coll...
    Not Unger, but same skates…
    http://www.gasolinea...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:09 pm |

    Seals did war green-white.
    (from Teebz blog)
    http://media.photobu...

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:13 pm |

    Imagining Denny Green after the game, raging..
    “We didn’t know who the hell they were!!!
    We STILL don’t know who the hell they were!!!”

    —Ricko

  • Taxman | October 8, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”352881″][quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    Speaking for only myself, that jagoff was never funny.
    (And Norm Crosby is the name you’re trying to pull, I think).[/quote]

    Billy Saluga was Raymond J. Johnson Jr. Norm Crosby was the malaprop guy. Both did Miller
    Lite commercials in the 70’s – the commercials were usually funny. Billy Saluga apparently only had the Johnson bit, and it was one of those stupid things we children of the 70s remember fondly, but we’re not really sure why.

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    HOLY FUCK

    the UFL unis are even worse in action

    and NEON GREEN yardsticks…W…T…F

  • Chris | October 8, 2009 at 9:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”352953″]HOLY FUCK

    the UFL unis are even worse in action

    and NEON GREEN yardsticks…W…T…F[/quote]
    Also silver vs. white not enough contrast.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”352953″]HOLY FUCK

    the UFL unis are even worse in action

    and NEON GREEN yardsticks…W…T…F[/quote]

    Lime and blue a hot design color combo these days. New look for Holiday Inn. Some of the ID’s on Fox News. To name two (but they both use navy blue). Don’t know that designing an entire football league around it is real swift, though.

    —Rick

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”352951″]Imagining Denny Green after the game, raging..
    “We didn’t know who the hell they were!!!
    We STILL don’t know who the hell they were!!!”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The UFL uniforms are poor, just as bad as the Buffalo Bills. The sameness among the six UFL clubs is boring, too. That being said, this league may actually survive to become a farm system of the NFL. Roger Goodell has said the NFL has discussed starting a USA based minor league, so this may happen.

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    So should I be happy or pissed right now that DirecTV shitcanned Versus?

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”352955″][quote comment=”352953″]HOLY FUCK

    the UFL unis are even worse in action

    and NEON GREEN yardsticks…W…T…F[/quote]

    Lime and blue a hot design color combo these days. New look for Holiday Inn. Some of the ID’s on Fox News. To name two (but they both use navy blue). Don’t know that designing an entire football league around it is real swift, though.

    —Rick[/quote]

    I snapped about 25 pics from the start of the game, including the coin, the football, the ref, the atrocities we now see as the unis…

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”352954″][quote comment=”352953″]HOLY FUCK

    the UFL unis are even worse in action

    and NEON GREEN yardsticks…W…T…F[/quote]
    Also silver vs. white not enough contrast.[/quote]

    Kinda like watching salmonella spread on blue cheese, isn’t it.

    —Ricko

  • leon | October 8, 2009 at 9:28 pm |

    Losing a job is always tough, I know the feeling. Instead of taking anything, I left something, it was organic……
    Was it an upper-decker?

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 9:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”352957″]So should I be happy or pissed right now that DirecTV shitcanned Versus?[/quote]

    extremely happy

    although this is like watching a trainwreck…you can’t turn away

    and gusto, i believe there are only 4 UFL teams

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:30 pm |

    “And you thought brown & gold unis with vertically striped socks were an ugly way to introduce a football league…”

    ref: Broncos at Patriots, 1960

    —Ricko

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….

  • Oakville Endive | October 8, 2009 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”352950″]Seals did war green-white.
    (from Teebz blog)
    http://media.photobu...

    Hmm, I really don’t remember ever the green and white – dug this up on NHL.com

    Finley bought the Seals prior to the 1970-71 season and made changes almost immediately. The team’s name was changed from the Oakland Seals to the California Golden Seals, the team’s colors became “Kelly green, California gold and ‘polar bear’ white,” which matched Finley’s Oakland A’s Major League Baseball team’s colors — except the white was known as “wedding gown white” in baseball circles. Finley also broke hockey tradition by allowing Seals players to wear green and gold skates rather than black skates.

    OFF THE WALL

    From the low minors to the NHL
    Evan Weiner – NHL.com Correspondent
    Jack McIlhargey lived the Slap Shot life in the minors and eventually made his way to the NHL.
    READ MORE ›

    Goaltenders usually make the best announcers
    For Panthers, 1996 was ‘Year of the Rat’
    Morel kept it light with players
    COMPLETE OFF THE WALL ARCHIVE ›
    The next season, Finley changed the skate color again — this time the Golden Seals players wore white skates.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”352963″]Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….[/quote]

    No offense, Marcus, but those grabs make it look WAY too good. LOL. The reality is…really lame.

    —Ricko

  • Thomas Clark | October 8, 2009 at 9:33 pm |

    I have to say that I don’t mind the Redwood’s unis…I border line like them. The Loco’s however are just a mess, turquoise (or whatever the hell color that is) is not a color for pants.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:35 pm |

    Yeah, Locomotives’ look like something to wear if you deliver bottled water.

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”352961″][quote comment=”352957″]So should I be happy or pissed right now that DirecTV shitcanned Versus?[/quote]

    extremely happy

    although this is like watching a trainwreck…you can’t turn away

    and gusto, i believe there are only 4 UFL teams[/quote]

    Shit, I’m busy watching “The Office”, and forgot how many UFL teams there are. I think the Las Vegas entry should have been called the Wildcards.

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    i wonder if paul will bid on this shirt

  • Jason L. | October 8, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    I know it’s already been said, but I just had to reiterate: I absolutely cannot tell which team is which in this UFL game (watching on Vs.) The first thing I saw when switching over from some local news was a pass that the WR deflected and caused the ball to bounce around 4 or 5 DBs… I thought they were ALL DBs.

    The silver v. white is bad enough, but it doesn’t help that both teams have that teal as their primary color on their pants.

    I’m all for unified branding (no, wait, I’m actually not) but this is just insane.

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”352965″][quote comment=”352963″]Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….[/quote]

    No offense, Marcus, but those grabs make it look WAY too good. LOL. The reality is…really lame.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I guess HDTV can make ANYTHING look good…

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”352968″][quote comment=”352961″][quote comment=”352957″]So should I be happy or pissed right now that DirecTV shitcanned Versus?[/quote]

    extremely happy

    although this is like watching a trainwreck…you can’t turn away

    and gusto, i believe there are only 4 UFL teams[/quote]

    Shit, I’m busy watching “The Office”, and forgot how many UFL teams there are. I think the Las Vegas entry should have been called the Wildcards.[/quote]

    Based on their unis and the size of the crowd…
    the Las Vegas Meh.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”352971″][quote comment=”352965″][quote comment=”352963″]Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….[/quote]

    No offense, Marcus, but those grabs make it look WAY too good. LOL. The reality is…really lame.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I guess HDTV can make ANYTHING look good…[/quote]

    Wasn’t making light of your effort so folks could see, I hope you know. Thanks for that.

    —Ricko

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”352973″][quote comment=”352971″][quote comment=”352965″][quote comment=”352963″]Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….[/quote]

    No offense, Marcus, but those grabs make it look WAY too good. LOL. The reality is…really lame.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I guess HDTV can make ANYTHING look good…[/quote]

    Wasn’t making light of your effort so folks could see, I hope you know. Thanks for that.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh know, I know what you were saying :-)
    (I count myself as one of the many that “Get You!”)

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:51 pm |

    Definitely better.
    http://www.mikestanh...

  • JTH | October 8, 2009 at 9:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”352974″][quote comment=”352973″][quote comment=”352971″][quote comment=”352965″][quote comment=”352963″]Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….[/quote]

    No offense, Marcus, but those grabs make it look WAY too good. LOL. The reality is…really lame.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I guess HDTV can make ANYTHING look good…[/quote]

    Wasn’t making light of your effort so folks could see, I hope you know. Thanks for that.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh know, I know what you were saying :-)
    (I count myself as one of the many that “Get You!”)[/quote]
    What kind of phone do you have? Those pix are really damn good.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:52 pm |
  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”352976″][quote comment=”352974″][quote comment=”352973″][quote comment=”352971″][quote comment=”352965″][quote comment=”352963″]Ladies and Gentlemen, for those who can’t see the game, This, is the UFL…..

    Oh the humanity….[/quote]

    No offense, Marcus, but those grabs make it look WAY too good. LOL. The reality is…really lame.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I guess HDTV can make ANYTHING look good…[/quote]

    Wasn’t making light of your effort so folks could see, I hope you know. Thanks for that.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh know, I know what you were saying :-)
    (I count myself as one of the many that “Get You!”)[/quote]
    What kind of phone do you have? Those pix are really damn good.[/quote]

    Samsung Omnia – 5MP, had it on the highest setting

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    San Francisco has a big ol’ tree up the center of their helmets.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”352979″]San Francisco has a big ol’ tree up the center of their helmets.[/quote]

    Or is that to remind Denny Green to eat celery?

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    See, a tree.
    http://www.flickr.co...
    Thanks, Marcus.

  • LarryB | October 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    The UFL is different for sure. Like Phil said though it is like a train wreck. I keep looking at it.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:02 pm |

    Honestly, the football is fine, all things considered. They just let the wrong person(s) make the decisions regarding the league’s unis.

    —Ricko

  • mmwatkin | October 8, 2009 at 10:03 pm |

    Looks like the NHL will have to fight for airtime with another league on a channel that half of the population doesn’t get.

    Awesome.

  • Ed E. | October 8, 2009 at 10:06 pm |

    A longtime baseball writer in San Diego once showed me a color version of the photo of Dave Freisleben in the “Washington Padres” road uniform. The team (which would have been the “Stars”) would have worn red, white and royal blue uniforms – not purple and gold.

    From what I remember, the road jersey/pants are light blue; stripes on the cuffs/selfbelt are red-white-royal; V-neck is royal-white-red; cap is blue with a red bill and white front panel. The lettering on the front (and the “W” on the cap) are red. Alas, I can’t remember what color the stirrups were.

    And no, I don’t have a color copy of the photo. But I’m sure someone out there does.

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 10:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”352981″]See, a tree.
    http://www.flickr.co...
    Thanks, Marcus.[/quote]

    I wish i could get the Locos head on too – they have an interesting design…

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”352985″]A longtime baseball writer in San Diego once showed me a color version of the photo of Dave Freisleben in the “Washington Padres” road uniform. The team (which would have been the “Stars”) would have worn red, white and royal blue uniforms – not purple and gold.

    From what I remember, the road jersey/pants are light blue; stripes on the cuffs/selfbelt are red-white-royal; V-neck is royal-white-red; cap is blue with a red bill and white front panel. The lettering on the front (and the “W” on the cap) are red. Alas, I can’t remember what color the stirrups were.

    And no, I don’t have a color copy of the photo. But I’m sure someone out there does.[/quote]

    I’m with you. I don’t recall any discussion of purple and gold at the time. Sounds like one of those things someone created out of thin air—or a misunderstanding of something else they heard—and it developed legs of its own.

    Bob Schieffer of CBS News once described the Internet as “the nation’s watercooler.” Sometimes it’s about that reliable. At best.

    —Ricko

  • Gusto44 | October 8, 2009 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”352983″]Honestly, the football is fine, all things considered. They just let the wrong person(s) make the decisions regarding the league’s unis.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Instead of the California Redwoods, they should have been called the Terminators. Another thought occurred to me, since city and team names are being shortened, will some announcer refer to California as “The Wood”

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”352979″]…a big ol’ tree… [/quote]Palo Alto?

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”352986″][quote comment=”352981″]See, a tree.
    http://www.flickr.co...
    Thanks, Marcus.[/quote]

    I wish i could get the Locos head on too – they have an interesting design…[/quote]

    It’s the looking straight down at the top of streamlined locomotive, I believe. Kinda like a bullet train.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”352987″]
    Bob Schieffer of CBS News once described the Internet as “the nation’s watercooler.” Sometimes it’s about that reliable. At best.[/quote]
    And sometimes this website is that burping sound from the nation’s watercooler. :-)

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”352988″][quote comment=”352983″]Honestly, the football is fine, all things considered. They just let the wrong person(s) make the decisions regarding the league’s unis.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Instead of the California Redwoods, they should have been called the Terminators. Another thought occurred to me, since city and team names are being shortened, will some announcer refer to California as “The Wood”[/quote]

    Considering the size of a redwood…
    The “Big Woodys”?

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”352990″]Kinda like a bullet train.[/quote]
    Please: that should read a Wizard train.

  • bob | October 8, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Stern wants to expand the NBA in Europe. Completely unneccesary. Why can’t they just have the NBA champs play the EuroLeague champs?

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”352978″]
    What kind of phone do you have? Those pix are really damn good.

    Samsung Omnia – 5MP, had it on the highest setting[/quote]I’ll admit that I’m behind the times with technology and this may be a stupid question: but are these pictures coming from a cell phone camera taking a picture of a television set??

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”352993″][quote comment=”352990″]Kinda like a bullet train.[/quote]
    Please: that should read a Wizard train.[/quote]

    Is my PC face red.

    I really like the distinctive diagonal shoulder yoke…oh, wait, all four UFL teams are wearing it.

    Guess it isn’t distinctive after all.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | October 8, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote]It’s the looking straight down at the top of streamlined locomotive this, I believe.[/quote]

    fixed ;)

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”352995″][quote comment=”352978″]
    What kind of phone do you have? Those pix are really damn good.

    Samsung Omnia – 5MP, had it on the highest setting[/quote]I’ll admit that I’m behind the times with technology and this may be a stupid question: but are these pictures coming from a cell phone camera taking a picture of a television set??[/quote]

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | October 8, 2009 at 10:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”352998″][quote comment=”352995″][quote comment=”352978″]
    What kind of phone do you have? Those pix are really damn good.

    Samsung Omnia – 5MP, had it on the highest setting[/quote]I’ll admit that I’m behind the times with technology and this may be a stupid question: but are these pictures coming from a cell phone camera taking a picture of a television set??[/quote][/quote]

    Yep

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”352999″]
    Yep[/quote]
    Okay, thank you for that answer: and I concur with the above, that is one great setup you’ve got working there! I never would have thought that was how those pictures were getting to my little computer.

    Thanks again.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    Just noticed. Officials are dressed as Tiger Woods.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”352997″][quote]It’s the looking straight down at the top of streamlined locomotive this, I believe.[/quote]

    fixed ;)[/quote]
    What is this, post a picture of Ricko day on Uniwatch?

    Put some tights and a satin shirt on him, give him a lute and he’s a high-tech troubador. :-)

  • Spiderpig | October 8, 2009 at 10:36 pm |

    I knew I count count on coming here to get some good uni comments on this UFL game. I can’t tell the teams apart from far away and can’t understand how a team gets a nickname (Locos) before it plays a game.

  • Ricko | October 8, 2009 at 10:43 pm |

    Phil tells me the radio guy said the Dodgers were in their “traditonal navy blue” hats today.

    Right.

    —Ricko

  • mmwatkin | October 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm |

    Wouldn’t want to be Matt Holliday heading back to Busch

    http://i729.photobuc...

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”353004″]Phil tells me the radio guy said the Dodgers were in their “traditonal navy blue” hats today.[/quote]

    As opposed to their non-traditional hats (of any shade). :-)

    Can we chalk this up to the idea that the national radio group brings in out-of-town announcers? Bob Brenly, who’s the Cubs color guy, is supposedly doing some work somewhere.

  • anotherguy | October 8, 2009 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”353005″]Wouldn’t want to be Matt Holliday heading back to Busch[/quote]
    The “chic pick” for the World Series was Yanks/Cards. That’s not looking good right now.

    But specifically to Holliday; would the Cards be in the playoffs without him? AFAIK he was one of the second half heroes.

  • mmwatkin | October 8, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”353006″][quote comment=”353004″]Phil tells me the radio guy said the Dodgers were in their “traditonal navy blue” hats today.[/quote]

    As opposed to their non-traditional hats (of any shade). :-)

    Can we chalk this up to the idea that the national radio group brings in out-of-town announcers? Bob Brenly, who’s the Cubs color guy, is supposedly doing some work somewhere.[/quote]

    Oh..you know

    http://lf.hatworld.c...

  • Chris | October 8, 2009 at 10:56 pm |

    See the front of the Holyfield trunks (and buy them for only $10,000) on this page:

  • mmwatkin | October 8, 2009 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”353007″][quote comment=”353005″]Wouldn’t want to be Matt Holliday heading back to Busch[/quote]
    The “chic pick” for the World Series was Yanks/Cards. That’s not looking good right now.

    But specifically to Holliday; would the Cards be in the playoffs without him? AFAIK he was one of the second half heroes.[/quote]

    Probably. All they had to do was beat the cubs in the NLC. When you have Capenter and Wainwright combined with Pujols, they probably could have pulled it off. They were leading them before the trade.

  • Chris | October 8, 2009 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”353009″]See the front of the Holyfield trunks (and buy them for only $10,000) on this page: [/quote]

  • Chris | October 8, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”353009″]See the front of the Holyfield trunks (and buy them for only $10,000) on this page:[/quote] http://www.sportswor...

  • Thomas Clark | October 8, 2009 at 11:15 pm |

    If nothing else ever comes out of the UFL, I have to say that the Redwood’s attempt at a textured logo feel is pretty sweet. I’m a big fan of the logo, if nothing else.

  • =bg= | October 9, 2009 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”352931″][quote comment=”352815″][quote comment=”352813″]What were the Padres going to be called in Washington?

    Also, that photo tends to argue against a purple-and-gold color scheme, since the neck and sleeves have three-color edging of one dark color (possibly purple), one very light color, and one medium color. It could be purple, gold, and another color, but it could just as easily be navy, white, and red. Need some color photos or artifacts to clear this up — even if it was purple and gold, what was the third color? Or was it purple and gold, separated by white?[/quote]

    Purple and gold? Were they moving to Washington state or something? I’d have a hard time thinking a DC team would be anything but red, white and blue…even in those wacky wonderful ’70s.[/quote]

    Guess the Wizards didn’t get the memo.[/quote]

    I recall having some Topps cards for the season they were supposed to move to DC- the photo had a flag over the top and one on the bottom..I think the top flag said WASHINGTON and the bottom NATIONAL LEAGUE..the hats and trip were truly awful red touchups. I used to despise that even as like a 10 year old; “what’d they use, a paintbrush from the art department at school?”

  • Burghfan | October 9, 2009 at 3:58 am |

    The Penguins wore colored (blue) skates for a year or so.

  • Ken | October 9, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    Re: Sunday hats

    Paul: The Oakland A’s had a Sunday hat tradition in that same early 1970’s time period. The white A’s hat and I think they’d also combine with the white jerseys which looked so cool after they were always otherwise in green and yellow. Padres were probably copying that (since Oakland was the gold standard at that time).

    At that time, blue laws were in effect in most states. No grocery stores or retail stores were open on Sundays. You put on your “Sunday Best” and went to church. Sunday was a special day. So to have Sunday baseball gear not so out of the times (except it is hard to see how tigh-fisted owners would ever go for it).

  • buck | October 9, 2009 at 5:37 pm |

    The white jerseys were for Sunday home games. The white caps were exclusively for the manager and coaching staff, and worn all-season.

  • buck | October 9, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”352910″][quote comment=”352908″][quote comment=”352871″][quote comment=”352864″]For those of you young enough to not get Paul’s “Ya doesn’t have to call me Johnson” reference consider yourself lucky. For whatever reason, this bit was funny in the 70s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I think I speak for all of the younger crowd when I say this.

    What the hell was wrong with people in the 70’s?[/quote]

    We didn’t have computers. We were really pretty bored. It didn’t take much to entertain us.[/quote]

    What? The style of humor differs from generation to generation? Damn, who knew.

    Such insight.[/quote]

    Count your blessings: “My name is Raymond J. OchoCinco. But you can call me Ocho, or…”

  • metsfan1963 | October 9, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    Off the subject a bit, but check out this article on retired baseball uniform numbers: http://www.bloggingm...